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80 wins, 3rd place
Don't we get a big list of things to predict this year? I feel cheated.
78 wins. 4th place.
92 wins, wild card.
86 wins. No playoffs. Doc doesn't make it to the All Star Break.
I'll take 84.
85 wins
I'd rather be bold and predict 92 (or even 75) than 85 wins.
Sack up, fruitcakes.
you need to be more clear...wild card is just 1 game
how far do they go
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
I'd rather be bold and predict 92 (or even 75) than 85 wins.
Sack up, fruitcakes.
What does being bold have to do with making a rational prediction? You pick what you feel they'll win...there shouldn't be other factors involved.
100 wins + WFC # 2.
Book it.
how many games does doc win
8 and his era will be above 4.
17 and his ERA will be around 3.20.
81 wins, they'll tease us with a nice little streak in August then fall flat on their asses.
Doc wins 7, spends considerable time on DL.
i think they are a .500 team more or less....ill say a little more as theres legit reason to be optimistic for an offensive improvement
83 wins
agree with sd on doc's 8 wins
no matter what happens its going to be pure comedy gold watching the defense this year
Please close this abomination of a thread and let Sunny start the real deal.
kthxbye
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2013, 06:50:48 PM
Please close this abomination of a thread and let Sunny start the real deal.
kthxbye
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Sunny's been a jinx the last two years. But known hater MDS doesn't deserve his name on it either.
Romer...all eyes on you buddy, get it done.
my prediction will be the same
91-71
Choke, Grit and Jimmy the Pimp all have good seasons
It ain't an official Phillies thread until Sunny posts it.
Get on it, Sunshine!
On the optimistic side, I'd say in the 86-88 range.
MAYBE enough to beat the Braves for 2nd, but not enough to catch up with the Nats.
Haladay wins 12 games. ERA between 3.50 and 4.00.
yeah, my mojo is gone. i'm not starting it.
90 wins....WC playoff spot
Doc wins 10 has an ERA slightly over 4.
Dom Brown = 25 hr, 100 rbi
I just figured it's because you aren't allowed on the interweb at work.
Line-Up
Revere -8
Rollins -6
Grit -4
Choke -3
Young -5
HOF -7
Mayberry -9
Kratz -2
King -1
they traded for king?
Your boy is no King Cole, son.
The OG resides in Philly.
nothing says og like a girl voice and a porn stache
(http://mobilwi.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a6dde087970b017ee9e0c96a970d-800wi)
lol at all the empty seats.....loser atlanta fans
lol @ nikki hamels
season over
I was just gonna say how cute of these fraud ass fans to try and chant and boo when Hamels went in on Upton.
Hamels not sharp. Freeman takes him deep.
Here we go!
you dont realize it until you see them come up one after each other but man are the braves loaded....should be a ridiculous race btwn them and the nats
Screw these Atlanta fans that won't show up again until late September and farg you Heidi.
i missed the sight of ryan howard grounding out harmlessly into the shift
god damn baseball is back
braves five hole bj upton
phillies five hole michael young
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
you dont realize it until you see them come up one after each other but man are the braves loaded....should be a ridiculous race btwn them and the nats
Just called my old man and said the bums really don't have anyone in this lineup that scares you yet most of the Braves lineup is trouble. Plus they're young. shtein.
HOF shows us!
the thing about the braves is their pitching might not be good enough...when tim hudson is your opening day starter thats not the most amazing thing ever
also holy shtein how is AAAberry still on this team. HOW!
Nice Ab from HOF
AAA
Triple A Berry....lolol
there are literally 10000 people who can hit but cant field a lick in baseball and you could find 1 to stash in LF. they hid burrell there for 10 years.
but no lets go with john farging mayberry jr. this is why your team sucks.
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 07:39:59 PM
also holy shtein how is AAAberry still on this team. HOW!
Reality check. Excited to see Revere and Young. See the vets JRoll, Grit, Choke. See if HOF can finally get it going. Then Triple AAA is up. Oh God.
Hoyda
Can I welch on my playoff bets now?
Jesus.
Nice start from Coal.
The 38 people who've been at the stadium before are doing the chop now.
Nuke the whole farging state.
Triple A, Hoyda Boy, Choke doing what he does best, Uggla homers and now that damned chant. Happy Opening Day!
uggla was 15 for 75 (.200) with 25 strikeouts in spring training
kratz
hamels
revere
can i take back my 81 wins prediction? try 74
try setting yourself on fire instead.
is it to early in the season when batters are still trying to get their timing down to ask for heidi to throw his first scoreless inning
i cant get over how ill the braves first five hitters are
uh oh romey is getting testy
its only game 1 of 162
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
is it to early in the season when batters are still trying to get their timing down to ask for heidi to throw his first scoreless inning
yes
how soon until rube starts fielding trade calls on utley and rollins?
Bottom of the 7th tonight.
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
how soon until rube starts fielding trade calls on utley and rollins?
no chance on GRIT.....he needs south jersey females to cake off the bank this summer
GRIT! Who cares!
that was a major league rope
What kind of sandpaper was that? 400 GRIT
Like the shift master was ever going to beat that out.
Quote from: SD on April 01, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
What kind of sandpaper was that? 400 GRIT
lol so awful
freddie freeman doing the splits there right in front of choke was kind of like him playing charades and the word was designated hitter
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
how soon until rube starts fielding trade calls on utley and rollins?
no chance on GRIT.....he needs south jersey females to cake off the bank this summer
im sure he can pitch good prospects in exchange for lost revenue in august
i would throw halladone into that group but he is untradeable right now
Brown will be decent offensively because he can walk - one thing criminally undervalued by this management.
Still can't play LF. At all.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 01, 2013, 08:22:56 PM
Brown will be decent offensively because he can walk - one thing criminally undervalued by this management.
Still can't play LF. At all.
shut up nerd...PRODUCTION is important. get hits. walking is more sissies
yeah HOF needs to drive the ball to become a decent player....walking in front of erik kratz and AAA isnt going to help this team
It's not even halfway through the first game and I wanna slaughter you already
haha and the first of many fielding follies from MY this year
horrible
lol that was tremendous
so in 4 innings hof misjudges a flyball and young boots a grounder
oh baby j just send me the 50 now
Well that wasn't very nice
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
yeah HOF needs to drive the ball to become a decent player....walking in front of erik kratz and AAA isnt going to help this team
Getting on base matters. He will do it. Maybe in light of how awful this team is you're right but Brown can be a decent player because he will get on base period. To be "good" he needs to combine that with hitting for power.
And Michael Young is terrible. No one is surprised.
Can't wait for them to win 3 or 4 in a row so that IGY and Todd stop posting in here
Wow, the little Hoyda got out of it.
Nice recovery.
What's wrong with McCaan? I missed what they said.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
yeah HOF needs to drive the ball to become a decent player....walking in front of erik kratz and AAA isnt going to help this team
in theory, yes
in reality hof needs to worry about his stats and his stats alone. he needs to look good to keep his job. this team stinks he cant be thinking like he needs to pick up the slack...what slack...for what...winning? lol.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 01, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
What's wrong with McCaan? I missed what they said.
He's recovering from offseason shoulder surgery
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 01, 2013, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
yeah HOF needs to drive the ball to become a decent player....walking in front of erik kratz and AAA isnt going to help this team
Getting on base matters. He will do it. Maybe in light of how awful this team is you're right but Brown can be a decent player because he will get on base period. To be "good" he needs to combine that with hitting for power.
who is a decent five or six hole guy who just walks...much less one who is 6-5....thats a terrible player to me not a decent one
come on jimmy
in the gap GRIT you farg face
Quote from: Munson on April 01, 2013, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 01, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
What's wrong with McCaan? I missed what they said.
He's recovering from offseason shoulder surgery
Thanks. I heard a pre game show on The Fanatic and Jayson Starks said he's out as long as Chooch is if not longer.
Let's go you farging kneeless prick!
perfect spot to walk in a run to get to the choke DP
there you go
GRIT ACTION YO
break me off a piece of GRIT
all set up by that fantastic at bat by ben....he single handedly took hudson out of the game
Jimmy the Pimp and Grit doing their thing
Time for Choke to roll one over to second base
NICE!
BOO you you farging douchebag fake Atlanta fans.
lets not take a look at one from the pitcher who you dont really know and just came in the game....hack hack hack!!!
Yeah really.
Slider away coming right up
Does anyone doubt the ultimate result of this atbat?
disgusting
GOD fargING DAMMIT CHOKE!
*cue MDS comment about horrible contract*
He could have walked in four pitches. Didn't take one of them.
Choke's in midseason form
good lord choke
Here's a chance for Von Brown. It's not spring training anymore. Time to do it for real.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
lets not take a look at one from the pitcher who you dont really know and just came in the game....hack hack hack!
Thank you! Exactly what we said here. What happened to this patient at bat approach he was working on all spring?
Five pitches and Howard repeated the same pathetic swing he had going all last year. He refuses to lay off low and inside. Just refuses. farging clown.
:-D :boom :paranoid :'(
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 01, 2013, 08:53:29 PM
*cue MDS comment about horrible contract*
is this is a bitter mcnabb passive aggressive comment or are you agreeing with me?
Late game lefty makes 'em look zesty
Never seen that before.
Brown's pressing again and the season's only two hours old.
Yay.
can't even complain about brown with that choke at bat fresh in my mind. you're 37 years old choke, learn how to take ABs like a major leaguer.
bobby cox has beaten his wife at least as many times as hes won the world series
but not as much as johnny carson beat his
Just like Upton beat Hamels there. Smack smack smack!
Nice game, Ace.
way to come back with a string inning to keep your team in it after they get you some runs
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
bobby cox has beaten his wife at least as many times as hes won the world series
:-D I needed that.
farg you Nicloe.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
bobby cox has beaten his wife at least as many times as hes won the world seriesNL East
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 01, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
Just like Upton beat Hamels there. Smack smack smack!
Nice game, Ace.
hes won more world series than donovan mcnabb has won super bowls
in case anyone is counting justin upton is nine days older than HOF
leaving this loser lefty avila in against AAA and kratz without a care in the world
welcome back chad durbin
Chad Durbin...leave. Go get my three piece and biscuit, bum.
Lets see these "fans" in six weeks. Stadium will be 12k strong.
team is a hot mess
lol manuel didnt even make freddy burn juan francisco...he wasnt even announced.
not that it matters much. terrible manager, terrible lineup, terrible team.
Atta boy, Choke. Nice throw.
Grit 4 MVP
well, he made contact
Can we stop the god bless America shtein? Every game, every seventh inning stretch.
Enough.
I've had enough of the retardedly large flag. We get it. You're like patriotic and shtein. Bury yourselves in it already.
Quote from: Rome on April 01, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
I've had enough of the retardedly large flag. We get it. You're like patriotic and shtein. Bury yourselves in it already.
lol
phils have to finish 91-70 for j to be correct on his preseason prediction for the team
nice too see aaaberry and kratz get hits down 7-4 in the 8th
Kratz your hands, bitches.
Jordan Mitch Williams Walden is on point!
Layyyyyyyyyynce Nix is shtein
endless possibilities with the k to end the game vs. kimbrel
choke...my....hof
WHO WILL IT BE?
walk machine HOF never K's....best eye in the sport
one thing he should be doing is swinging at a ball 4 feet outside...just in case he hits it....gotta be productive cant not be unproductive
oh michael how i am going to love watching you in the field this year
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
one thing he should be doing is swinging at a ball 4 feet outside...just in case he hits it....gotta be productive cant not be unproductive
agreed....that career .315 obp is off the charts good and shouldnt be tinkered with
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
endless possibilities with the k to end the game vs. kimbrel
choke...my....hof
WHO WILL IT BE?
i wont feel like phillies baseball is back unless it's choke
that was not a strike....jesus
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2013, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
one thing he should be doing is swinging at a ball 4 feet outside...just in case he hits it....gotta be productive cant not be unproductive
agreed....that career .315 obp is off the charts good and shouldnt be tinkered with
not that i think hes amazing but when you cant stay in the lineup because your manager doesnt like you its tough to find consistency
his sample sizes are still a relatively small. obviously if he were good he wouldve been up years ago. but in short, give him a few months at least before you judge
Looks like the honor will go to Howard.
haha kimbrel is so filthy its not fair
yea he was in another zone tonight
kudos to choke for not k'ing...an out is an out but at least he didnt look horrible doing it
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
kudos to choke for not k'ing...an out is an out but at least he didnt look horrible doing it
personally i feel a little robbed, i was waiting for the ridiculous whiff to at least get a chuckle
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 01, 2013, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 01, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
kudos to choke for not k'ing...an out is an out but at least he didnt look horrible doing it
personally i feel a little robbed, i was waiting for the ridiculous whiff to at least get a chuckle
he holds his own verse righties...even when he does k it generally doesnt look ridiculous like he does against southpaws
Things could be worse with this franchise. Our no-name backup catcher could be pushing turkey bacon. Oh wait...
kratz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bltl70SVyuU)
kratz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGOjaXfwdfg)
kratz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oQi1uuq2xI)
Ezequiel Carrera claimed off waivers from CLE and Ender Inciarte waived
Wasn't Inciarte a Rule V? If so, he's got to be offered back to Arizona for half of what they paid.
shtein, Doc already looks spent just walking through the dugout for pregame high fives.
jimmy go BABIP
Choke still sucks
I knew Doc could do it! ::)
that last pitch was filthy.
Cold and rainy.
Heat stroke coming up soon for 34.
Missed his spot by a lot.
Looong bomb for Justin Upton.
RIP Doc Halladay
May 14, 1977 - Summer 2013
i literally feel bad for halladay....this is hard to watch
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
i literally feel bad for halladay....this is hard to watch
Sure is. 35 pitches so far.
Just sad to watch at this point
3 runs, 3 Ks.
Swell, at this point it looks like we'll get to see Chode Durbin make an early appearance again.
HOF with a stinger to center. Nice hit.
HOF, Triple A? Wow.
phils lineup hits like .320 against maholm....they should put up runs against him
Atta boy Kratz. Nice rally killer, farger.
The braves broadcast has cut out twice on me. Only have audio now.
Another rally killing AB from the turkey bacon slinging catcher.
0-6 RISP
Ahhhh just like years past.
Nice bat flip there, rook. I was hoping HOF would rob him.
shtein.
holy crap thats wild....dook gets his first career hit and its a home run as the braves broadcast is in the stands interviewing his parents
Yep.
farging Brown was a funhole hair from catching that too.
Doc was looking at Charlie like "what?!"
Get out Doc, you done.
j you wanna just get it over with and send me that 50 piece now?
No sir. Ill wait until the Fourth of July
Awful start to the season as expected. They should have had Cliff pitch the middle game.
Christ, 15 K's and these bums are losing 7-2. Go team go!
Nice try Triple A. What a joke.
Both brown and Mayberry should has caught those HR balls. Mayberry was especially atrocious at the wall.
Phils pitching looks to be stellar. Walks and homers for everyone!
farg
J, allow me, BOO!
lol i love the homer brigade acting all pissed
what the farg were you expecting.
holy hell i just looked up the night in erik kratz had...good lord. how is he in the majors?
so to recap, kratz, michael young and john mayberry have played a combined 6 games so far. sounds like a playoff team to me.
interesting question is who becomes the fans punching bag---to me its either michael young or choke.
oh its choke and its not close....he was a punching bag when he was good
Uptons on crusie control. JRoll with almost the same ball he wedged last night. BJ lucky that one didn't get away. Justin did the same thing last night.
Choke first hit of 2013! Shift buster.
Jimmy's such a pimp.
Lets go Brown!
RISP?
.000
Bums!
Hall of shtein!
So Clifton...how about 8 innings tonight eh?
Lets see how they farg this up...
Bases loaded again. Zero outs and Revere up.
Hey, the Phils weren't losing in the first inning. That's a step up!
LOL at Heyward's rag-arm throw. The catcher beat that lame throw.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 04, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
LOL at Heyward's rag-arm throw. The catcher beat that lame throw.
Their OF is going to be problems for them. How do you not throw that lard ass out? Inexcusable. Upton family rubbing off him.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 04, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 04, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
LOL at Heyward's rag-arm throw. The catcher beat that lame throw.
Their OF is going to be problems for them.
lol wtf?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 04, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 04, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
LOL at Heyward's rag-arm throw. The catcher beat that lame throw.
Their OF is going to be problems for them.
lol wtf?
Defensively. I know they're all studs but the Uptons are powder kegs. Don't get me wrong, I'd take Heyward in a second. Kid is special. Weren't the Uptons trouble? One of them was.
Don't step between igy and his Upton love, Don!!
PS - Phils have 25 men left on base in 22 innings.
heyward is a gold glove winner and justin upton should have won...bj isnt on their level but hes certainly above average and none of them are a liability....they are one of the best defensive OF's in the league
There goes the igs... slurp slurp slurp
I was commenting on one play - Heyward in shallow right field catching a ball with a catcher stupidly tagging running and throws a 67-hopper to home plate. It was Revere-esque.
BTW - Helluva start by Lee. Worried about Papelbon coming in to save the game, though. He hasn't looked good this spring, either.
Beautiful start from Lee.
He still didn't get shtein for run support though. They did hit a few balls hard though.
Kendrick/Lannan/Hamels against the Royals with cheese.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 04, 2013, 09:30:28 PM
BTW - Helluva start by Lee. Worried about Papelbon coming in to save the game, though. He hasn't looked good this spring, either.
Nice close by Papelbon. He still scares me and not in a good way. Lee looked very good.
Poor home opener crowd gets KK tomorrow. Talk about rough springs.
correct me if im wrong but i think chase utley has knocked in all but 2 runs this year
You are correct sir! That kneeless gritty bastich is back.
Igy may be right on this one, Michael Young is going to be a big liability at third.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 04:59:22 AM
Igy may be right on this one, Michael Young is going to be a big liability at third.
Wait... there are people who didn't realize that as soon as they heard about the trade?
defensively - the braves outfield > michael young
The arrow's pointed the wrong there, big guy.
michael young is ty wiggerton except he was good at one point in his career
Other than Francoeur, who the farg are the Royals? Never heard of any of these guys.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 04:10:10 PM
Other than Francoeur, who the farg are the Royals? Never heard of any of these guys.
A lotttt of young talent.
Sal Perez pretty much never swings and misses. Mike Moustakas has 30 home run power but still K's a lot/doesn't make enough contact yet. Hosmer is on his way to stardom as well. Alex Gordon used to be a top prospect but took a while to pan out.
They'd probably be playoff contenders if their pitching didn't blow so hard
HOF!
More Royals please!
Kendrick striking a pose on the longest single he'll ever hit.
Quote from: Munson on April 05, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 04:10:10 PM
Other than Francoeur, who the farg are the Royals? Never heard of any of these guys.
A lotttt of young talent.
Sal Perez pretty much never swings and misses. Mike Moustakas has 30 home run power but still K's a lot/doesn't make enough contact yet. Hosmer is on his way to stardom as well. Alex Gordon used to be a top prospect but took a while to pan out.
They'd probably be playoff contenders if their pitching didn't blow so hard
Is most of this talent from their farm system? If Wheels knows what he's talking about regarding this subject he's said they're high on a lot of these young players.
Quote from: Rome on April 05, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
Kendrick striking a pose on the longest single he'll ever hit.
:-D That was hilarious, the camera pans to second thinking he's got to at least get a double out of this just speed walking. Base was empty.
If that went out I would have fainted. HOF, Kratz, KK? Mayans were right.
Revere, nice! Who needs Pineapple Head?
Holy shtein Revere!
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 05, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 04:10:10 PM
Other than Francoeur, who the farg are the Royals? Never heard of any of these guys.
A lotttt of young talent.
Sal Perez pretty much never swings and misses. Mike Moustakas has 30 home run power but still K's a lot/doesn't make enough contact yet. Hosmer is on his way to stardom as well. Alex Gordon used to be a top prospect but took a while to pan out.
They'd probably be playoff contenders if their pitching didn't blow so hard
Is most of this talent from their farm system? If Wheels knows what he's talking about regarding this subject he's said they're high on a lot of these young players.
Yup, all home grown stuff. Perez was signed from some south american country or island, but Hosmer and Moustakas were high draft picks. Same with their DH Billy Butler that they left out of the line-up today. He's a poor man's Miguel Cabrera, pretty much a guarantee to hit .300, and has 25-30 HR power. I don't remember if Alex Gordon was a pick of theirs or if he came from another farm system, but I know he's already 28 and didn't really "break out" until the last 2 years.
I was working at the Royals single A affiliate here in Wilmington when Moustakas and Hosmer were down there, they were beasts.
That's cool, thanks Munson for the update. Just makes me sick when I see these teams loaded with all this young talent.
Damn, Grit is a beast so far.
OK, I'm done. HOF, Kratz hit bombs. KK almost crushes one. Now Young gets a hit. Going to my bunker.
Laynce Nix sucks. GHTFOMT!
farging Kendrick.
KK had half a game in him today. Too bad Cholly left him in longer than that.
Son of a bitch.
Jesus farging Christ!
Horst To Worst!
Stop apologizing for Kendrick TMac! He farging blows, face it. Good for 5 innings and then he collapses.
Losers
Michael Young with the "You farging little prick" stare at Horst.
Oh swell, Durbin with bases juiced and no outs.
I can't farging believe he left Horst Muhlmann in there to load the bags.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Quote from: Don Ho on April 05, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Michael Young with the "You farging little prick" stare at Horst.
Oh swell, Durbin with bases juiced and no outs.
Young can suck a fleshpop. Show him and Smug to the same Zyklon-B spa for all I care.
Quote from: Rome on April 05, 2013, 06:22:13 PM
I can't farging believe he left Horst Muhlmann in there to load the bags.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Horst Muhlmann reference may be the POY in this thread! HA! That farger too also killed me as a kid.
lol at mcarthy trying to explain away nixes throw....saying it got caught up in the grass and killed....wow....first of all he has a horrendous arm and had no chance from the start and secondly the throw was waaaay offline
bwahahahahahaha
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2013, 06:28:18 PM
lol at mcarthy trying to explain away nixes throw....saying it got caught up in the grass and killed....wow....first of all he has a horrendous arm and had no chance from the start and secondly the throw was waaaay offline
That throw was beyond pathetic. What is with Mr. Apologist McCarthy today? Homeopeneridis?
Oh so no apology for HOF TMac?
Buckle up sports fans, here comes 2013.
I am officially getting shteinfaced now.
4-0 to 9-4.
farg you.
man is their defense bad
There's no fire in them either. Can you imagine them taking this shtein lying down 5 years ago?
Aumont? Adams? Nahh, leave Durbin in there
Quote from: Rome on April 05, 2013, 06:36:07 PM
There's no fire in them either. Can you imagine them taking this shtein lying down 5 years ago?
they won their title and most of them are in the twilight of their career....plus they know they are a distant third best team in their own divison....its only natural that they dont have that fire inside anymore
nice game today, funholes.
I hope Amaro chokes on a farging crab fry
Bull farging shtein. If you're a champion one won't do. They're missing a spark. A Justin Upton like spark.
Get some fire on this team before its too late.
15 farging hits. farg KK and you can really farg this bullpen.
lol at this Royals color analyst
Moustakas ground rule double and BOOOOOS rain down...dude's like "wow listen to these Moose calls here in Phily"
I laughed at that too.
HOW CAN THEY BOO????
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2013, 06:55:09 PM
lol at this Royals color analyst
Moustakas ground rule double and BOOOOOS rain down...dude's like "wow listen to these Moose calls here in Phily"
What a tool! That booing was mild. This is an opening day crowd of which we'll never see 90% of them again.
Seriously..Ruben Amaro should have his farging ass beat for assembling this bullpen.
Goddamn! shtein! farg!
Oh well, at least the premier of Madmen is on Sunday.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
Seriously..Ruben Amaro should have his farging ass beat for assembling this bullpen.
Goddamn! shtein! farg!
Other than Aumont and Adams you are correct. This is a complete joke.
27 runs allowed in 4 games.
Most in the entire farging league.
farging funholeface Amaro
And we were all worried about Doc's velocity.
13-4
jesusssssssssss
Can North Korea nuke CBP right now please?
THE "FANS" THERE ARE WAVING RALLY TOWELS AND IT IS 13-4! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2013, 07:16:57 PM
Can North Korea nuke CBP right now please?
THE "FANS" THERE ARE WAVING RALLY TOWELS AND IT IS 13-4! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
It appears to me that they're just doing it because it's opening day and baseball is back and blah blah. Trying to have some fun at a very shtein game to be at
i had a ticket to the game, left work to drive up, then ditched at the last minute because I wasn't going to have enough tailgating time. god works in mysterious ways.
holy shtein just saw the highlights...
hof's defense is hysterical. he fargs up, then just shrugs like whatever i guess i missed it. OK doofus. then nix can't even reach the pitchers mound on his throw. and i didnt even mention michael young.
kendrick did kendrick things. he is what he is. get over it. he pitches to contact and is dependent on hitting his spots. sometimes it works, sometimes it dont. its not his fault hes the 3rd best pitcher in this rotation.
offense shut it down early. bullpen cant keep it close. south jersey in the house. 2012 all over again.
yeah kendrick isnt the problem...the problem is the team has two number 5's
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
Seriously..Ruben Amaro should have his farging ass beat for assembling this bullpen.
i was thinking about this in bed last night....bases loaded 6th inning and they need a huge out from a lefty and their option is jeremey farging horst....which brings up two things...their go to loogys in the pen are horst and odb...puke....
and secondly if charlie is going to manage the 6th inning of game four of the season like hes managing a world series game then why not go to the better pitcher in basticho to get that out
The team is old and tired just like their pathetic bumblefarg manager. They need a total shakeup from top to bottom and since they can't fire 25 players, get rid of Cholly and get someone in there with some fire in his belly. I know it's not going to make much difference this season but at least it will give the fans something to look forward to in 3 or 4 years when they're contending again.
the next manager is at 3rd base....its not a matter of who its a matter of when...i wouldnt be against doing it now...it just doesnt feel right giving him his first shot with a team headed towards the abyss...its one thing to hand over the job as you are rebuilding and moving forward....but this is a team hanging on by thread who is going to get worse before it gets better
I agree with that but something has to be done. They lost yesterday in embarrassing fashion and that can't be permitted to continue. They're not going to re-hire Cholly anyway so why continue on with him?
i just wish there was more time to catch up to the nats. gonna have to get extremely hot very soon.
wait did rome just notice that they suck?
John Lannan...do not like.
He's probably going to go 5 and give up 5
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2013, 02:44:13 PM
John Lannan...do not like.
He's probably going to go 5 and give up 5
That would be an improvement.
mendoza who is pitching for kansas city was mvp of the caribbean world series
he also is a right hander who doesnt strike people out...so the phillies should score on him
7-8-9 is mAAAyberry, quintero, lAAAnAAAn
actually should be it lAAnAAn...triple a gives him too much credit
im sure a good amount of it is late arriving tailgaters but damn is there a crapload of empty seats for a saturday game
Lannan is throwing well...
And 65yr old Miguel Tejada made a helluva play on Grit's dribbler. He must be on the shtein again.
Choke's lost about three hits to the goddamn shift so far this year
choke is AWFUL
Well...game over. 2-0 and I don't think they can score
they scored a run!
how?....i was watching a possesion arrow possibly decide a final four game
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 06, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
how?....i was watching a possesion arrow possibly decide a final four game
so was i...
apparently MAAAyberry walked, sac'd to second and Revere slapped a single to left. Sandberg was gutsy on his call to send him home per the beat dudes on twitter
another hit taken away by the shift for Choke
its not taking away a hit if the defense knows exactly where the ball is going and puts a man there
so much for the guy with the pathetic strikeout rate not fanning any phils
lol old man Miggy keeps hurting the phils
jesus christ its not even been a week and I am disgusted
the juice has killed tejadas brain cells
thanks for getting picked off third, ass.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2013, 08:54:18 PM
jesus christ its not even been a week and I am disgusted
i understand it because thats what the spring is all about...overvaluing your team in baseball...every fan base does it...but youd be less maddened if you stepped back and just looked at the roster and manager...that way this wouldnt bother you in the least
It would still bother me.
It bothered me when they were 67-95 and Tito was the manager
wow...you are in for a long year
It's the fifth game of the season, there's no reason for anyone to think any differently than they thought during the spring unless you assumed they were gonna steamroll their way to 120 wins. It's super early still, teams can start like this and finish pretty much anywhere, good or zesty.
It's also just last year's team with another tree ring around the infield and pitching, and some crap and mediocrity added by Amaro. There was no great mystery surrounding what to expect from the 2013 Phillies. There are only a few legit questions like just how done is Doc, and is HOF gonna become a real player.
hof showed a while ago that hes never ever coming close to his ceiling...the question for him this year is he even a major leaguer at all....
as for doc if you looked at it with clear eyes you knew that he is not doc and never will be again....the question is does he get 8 wins or 12
to me the only real questions this year were how many games will GRIT play and can choke get back to being a top notch run producer
Ah yes, all is right in the world...just heard my first Chris Wheeler "middle in" comment
rally rally
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2013, 09:46:22 PM
Ah yes, all is right in the world...just heard my first Chris Wheeler "middle in" comment
thank god i got the royals feed tonight
they have two hits in the last 14 innings
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2013, 09:48:01 PM
they have two hits in the last 14 innings
one hit can tie it....stop being a hater
and its your boy
loaded
here comes a strikeout and then a GIDP
greg hollololand??
Bases loaded no outs down two...they'll blow it
jesus christ HOF
COME ON
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
loaded
here comes a strikeout and then a GIDP
there's the K
now comes the GIDP
HOF's swing is ridiculously long
he farging stinks
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 06, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
HOF's swing is ridiculously long
he farging stinks
SunMo would slap you if he heard you say that
farging corksucker Mayberry
FRANDSENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
WINNER!!!!!!!!
WOWOWOWOWOW
NICE!
Frandsen should start at third again
Quote from: SD on April 06, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
Frandsen should start at third again
i should start at third over the guy on j's fantasy team
I released him like three days ago
why
Great first-pitch swing from Frandsen. He was looking for a pitch to drive and got it.
Credit to Lannan... he did what you expect a fifth starter to do - kept his team in the game.
not gonna lie i shouted "send em all home" when frandsen ripped the ball in the gap
homer hooooooooooooooooooo
That double reminded me of Jimmy's game winner off Broxton in the NLCS
Yep me too. Crossing Broad overlapped Frantzke's call of that with the video from last night and it was almost identical.
Nice start today. 4 in the first. Small ball!!
Hamels struggling again.
He looked off in the first with control.
Now he's walking people and just surrendered a run scoring double. Runners on second and third with an out.
Nice inning, Ace.
Piss poor AB by HOF in the third. Runner on third one out and he K's looking.
Kratz K's too.
PS - Choke has his longest extra base hit cold streak since 2005.
more being a good pitcher, less adopting truck loads of black babies from africa please
Helluva start today, Acey McHundredandfortymillion.
oh look ma...Ace is getting worked AGAIN
about to be 8-4
Chad Durbin coming in....
My blood pressure rises....i'd pay someone to kick Amaro in the empty nutsack for me
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
8-4
started off 4-0...lololololololololololol
farg YOU iceholeS
this is why charlie is terrible
its not 2008 anymore you old farg...going to chad durbin here was beyond moronic.
besides the astonishing lack of talent they cant possibly win with this doofus blindly following his roster from 5 years ago
Aumont should have been the guy. BUT how about the farging Ace not surrender another lead?
How about that?
10/11 inherited runners allowed to score
THAT IS ON YOU, AMARO
lol youre hysterical
frankly this was terrific for my fantasy team. he has hamels, i have big game. we were close in era and whip i was down 1 in wins. this worked out perfectly.
Sorry farging bums
And the offense has disappeared.
Jimmy down...Utely down....now watch Choke slam a meaningless homer
Nope...he K's too.
That's 11 strikeouts for this offense today.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
9-4
Horst is the latest shteinbag to get hit around
When you're relying on Kevin Frandsen & Erik Kratz to bail your nine digit "ACE" out of a second consecutive putrid start, you're in big farging trouble.
Blow it up.
Well...that sucked. I thought for sure Kratz was going to walk it off.
farg the mets....
haha. the though for a triple a catcher coming through in a key spot. good god.
kratz was sitting fastball after that wild pitch. had 4-5 chances, couldnt time it. then he left himself unprotected against the change. mediocre hitters doing mediocre things.
Kevin Frandsen is mediocre. Erik Kratz should be cleaning restrooms in Vegas, not farging up my ballclub. These iceholes knew Chooch was going to be out for a month and decided that Erik Kratz was sufficient. That's on Amaro just like every other farged up boneheaded move he's pulled in the last 5 years.
pitch before the K was up and in his eyes......a major leaguer drives that ball...eric kratz is not a major leaguer
QuotePhillies: 40 runs allowed in 1st 6 games is 2nd-most allowed in 1st 6 games in franchise history
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Kevin Frandsen is mediocre. Erik Kratz should be cleaning restrooms in Vegas, not farging up my ballclub. These iceholes knew Chooch was going to be out for a month and decided that Erik Kratz was sufficient. That's on Amaro just like every other farged up boneheaded move he's pulled in the last 5 years.
where was this post in january
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Kevin Frandsen is mediocre. Erik Kratz should be cleaning restrooms in Vegas, not farging up my ballclub. These iceholes knew Chooch was going to be out for a month and decided that Erik Kratz was sufficient. That's on Amaro just like every other farged up boneheaded move he's pulled in the last 5 years.
where was this post in january
in his vagina
the thing is if cole shows up they are 4-2
so in reality amaro feels awful proud of himself because the only thing thats been an abject failure so far is his best pitcher. yeah jeremy horst sucks, whatever. they have 15 of those in lehigh right now they can always try another one.
keep the faith homers
does heidis contract end up worse than chokes?
a collection of homer facebook posts on the loss...with a wip special at the end
QuoteMaryjane Van Fossen As long as they never quit and give it all they have I am fine with them! You front runners are not TRUE FANS!! GO Phils!
QuoteMatthew G. Collins Good game overall...Butler killed it
QuoteBrandon Apter Carol - Chad Durbin pitched 1.1 scoreless.
QuoteChadd A Resh What they need to do is get rid of hamels ...
ha
Oh my God! Maryjane Van Fossen is right up there with Horst on the "farg you bitch" scale.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2013, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Kevin Frandsen is mediocre. Erik Kratz should be cleaning restrooms in Vegas, not farging up my ballclub. These iceholes knew Chooch was going to be out for a month and decided that Erik Kratz was sufficient. That's on Amaro just like every other farged up boneheaded move he's pulled in the last 5 years.
where was this post in january
in his vagina
I laughed.
Quote from: MDS on April 07, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 07, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Kevin Frandsen is mediocre. Erik Kratz should be cleaning restrooms in Vegas, not farging up my ballclub. These iceholes knew Chooch was going to be out for a month and decided that Erik Kratz was sufficient. That's on Amaro just like every other farged up boneheaded move he's pulled in the last 5 years.
where was this post in january
I said this back then (2/16/13):
Quote from: Rome on February 16, 2013, 05:45:04 AM
I actually think the Nats are gonna win it all this year. They have too much talent in the lineup and their pitching is retarded.
all you said was the nats were good
a big part of you still thought the phillies were good...maybe not good enough...but you were convinced
Quote"We were pitching what we have," Manuel said. "That's who we have right now."
typical backhanded whining from charlie about the roster. "i dont have an all star team, what do you want me to do?"
Quote from: MDS on April 08, 2013, 02:30:25 PM
Quote"We were pitching what we have," Manuel said. "That's who we have right now."
typical backhanded whining from charlie about the roster. "i dont have an all star team, what do you want me to do?"
Direct shot at fargface the general manager is what it is. Good for Chuck.
i think you might hate amaro more than i hate mcnabb
its not about the team sucking (which they do, mainly due to the terrible gm). its about charlie being incapable of running a team that isnt so clearly defined. the moment he has to think or be creative or do something other than wait for the 3 run homer or follow his romero-madson-lidge combo is the moment he fails
I do hate him more than any previous Philadelphia sports figure...ever.
What should Charlie do though? Who can he run out there?
Quote from: MDS on April 08, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
all you said was the nats were good
a big part of you still thought the phillies were good...maybe not good enough...but you were convinced
I still think they're going to be a good team. If Cole pitched the way everyone thought he would then this team would be 4-2 right now, not 2-4. They're six games in. Settle your little monkey ass down.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
I do hate him more than any previous Philadelphia sports figure...ever.
What should Charlie do though? Who can he run out there?
He should quit because he's a farging bumblefarg of a manager whose talent on the field always outpaced his coaching ability.
Philly Magazine article on THE MAN (http://www.phillymag.com/articles/real-chase-utley-phillies/)
Lots of good stuff
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 08, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Philly Magazine article on THE MAN (http://www.phillymag.com/articles/real-chase-utley-phillies/)
Lots of good stuff
Indeed it is very good.
There is one blurb in there I fully expect WIP crowd to latch onto and run with. Let's see if you guys can find it. I can hear the phone calls now...
"Lets go to Johnny Numbnuts from Fishtown on line 3"
"Yo Ang! Didya see that Philly mag piece on Chase?! Like I've been tellin' ya for years....(insert blurb here)...even Utley says it! So Its true!"
And it will be taken the complete wrong way by the mouthbreathers.
They probably should have given it a catchier title. Maybe "Being White in Philly".
walk and stolen base for Revere...Jimmy moves him to 3rd with one out.
Utley pops out and Choke K's.
Yay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
walk and stolen base for Revere...Jimmy moves him to 3rd with one out.
Utley pops out and Choke K's.
Yay
Rinse, repeat. Choke looks as lost as ever up there.
Well...this is going to be painful.
3-0
HR Mets
farg
Horst/Durbin bat signal!
atta boy Doc, get to 50 pitches by the second inning.
Well its nice to see the offense follow up with a strong inning...not
Saving that offensive exploson for the bottom of the ninth when they're down 8-1.
Can Dubbe's ass and get Sutcliffe in there. He's got Doc pegged to the bone.
jesus halladay is an embarrassment
his fastball sucks. he cant get his breaking stuff over. but im sure its humberto quintero's fault.
It's Kurt Coleman's fault
his face is red like an injin and hes getting super pissed when borderline calls go against him
this is just sad. please retire.
Best case scenario is he gets a season ending injury. He can go out with some dignity at least.
This is sad. He looks totally spent after 3 innings.
if he turned himself into a moyer clone he could be ok
but hes overthrowing his pitches and relying too heavily on a fastball that doesnt have juice anymore.
why this was never brought up to him i do not know
Wheels has a book out. It's available at Barnes & Noble for all of you hardcore fans (phreak, igy, rome)
brilliant 3-0 green light to a triple a player
charlie manuel everyone
"dont worry, chad durbin is coming in," said no one.
Quote from: SD on April 08, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
Wheels has a book out. It's available at Barnes & Noble for all of you hardcore fans (phreak, igy, rome)
A buddy of mine is a fellow Wheels hater like most Phils fans. When his book came out I bought it on amazon and had it shipped to his house for his birthday.
By the way...
Halladay walks off to indifference and light applause.
Choke strikes out and is booed like hell.
Come on, people.
oafish field negros aren't beloved
Maybe tonight's the night one of the beat writers or Philly media takes that corksucker Amaro to task
should've done that 3 years ago when he made all those trades to set up this disaster
the writings been on the wall for some time now. they were headed down and there was no possible move or combination of moves anyone could have done to stop it. the point blank of it was they didnt win in 09 10 11 when they had the chance and that will be the takeaway from this run
i cant expect you to comprehend this because youve been in your own J world regarding this team for like 5 years. frankly i wonder what its like in there.
Quote from: MDS on April 08, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
the point blank of it was they didnt win in 09 10 11 when they had the chance and that will be the takeaway from this run
THIS THIS THIS! 100% correct. 2008 was special, I'll never forget the joy I felt but damnit if they had beaten the Yankees in 09 or won it all after the 102 win farce, shtein, that would have been sweet.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2013, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: SD on April 08, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
Wheels has a book out. It's available at Barnes & Noble for all of you hardcore fans (phreak, igy, rome)
A buddy of mine is a fellow Wheels hater like most Phils fans. When his book came out I bought it on amazon and had it shipped to his house for his birthday.
By the way...
Halladay walks off to indifference and light applause.
Choke strikes out and is booed like hell.
Come on, people.
normally this would make me furious and the double standard for choke has been well documented....but i give a pass on not booing halladay just because its more sad than anything
the phillies OF's
not starting OF
but every OF on the roster
have a combined five rbi
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2013, 07:10:46 AM
normally this would make me furious and the double standard for choke has been well documented....but i give a pass on not booing halladay just because its more sad than anything
Not only that, but you really don't boo a player for getting old. He was pretty automatic in 2010 and 2011 and you can't really put any blame on him at all for the Phil's shortcomings either of those years. Starting last year, he was just 1 of many flaws with this team. Even if he's still pitching like 2010, unless he's going the distance every game and giving up 2 runs or less each time out, they still probably aren't winning more than 50% of his starts. They're going to struggle to score runs and they're pretty bad, if not terrible at at least 3 defensive positions. No pitcher can compensate for that for an entire season.
Season Saved! (http://philliesnation.com/archives/2013/04/oswalt-tweets-says-hed-love-to-come-back-to-philly/)
Michael Young is a double away from the cycle lol
*patiently waiting for Todd to come in and rip Michael Young....*
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
*patiently waiting for Todd to come in and rip Michael Young....*
Those two don't show up when the Phils are winning games. If it was 8-3 the other way, IGY and Todd would have 10 posts each by now.
Last year Lee got win #2 on July 31. That's still hard to believe.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 09, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
Season Saved! (http://philliesnation.com/archives/2013/04/oswalt-tweets-says-hed-love-to-come-back-to-philly/)
Maybe he can come out of the bullpen like he did in 2010 against the Giants. That worked out well.
In it, out of it, whatever. As long as they beat the Mets it's a good thing.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
*patiently waiting for Todd to come in and rip Michael Young....*
you sound like a science denier who hungry hungry hippos climate change people when its snowing outside
remember when they said it would be more beneficial for freddy galvis to get part time play in the bigs rather than full time play in AAA
a week and a half into the season he has 2 at bats. none since last thursday
this is the same brilliant player development strategy that brought along dominic brown so well. manuel couldnt give 2 shteins about getting young guys ready, he just wants the best 25 available on his roster. and since galvis is better than michael martinez or desi relaford or peter orr...he gets the big league spot.
and you wonder why they will suck for another 3 years
you wish it was only three....and they dont even truly suck yet...we got a long way to go buddy
The Future. Roman Quinn hits an ISTPHR and rounds the bases in 14 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F7MsAoF9MvM
Coming to CBP, Spring 2016.
meanwhile the braves called up heyward when he was 20 and simmons is already their starting ss
but lets wait until someone in 27 before we give them playing time, rube. john mayberry needs his at bats.
If anyone needs to know why Uncle Suck needs to be fired, just take a look at him removing Cliff Lee after 8 2/3 last night.
Senile retard.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 10, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
Coming to CBP, Spring 2016.
Of course in Spring 2016 he will be travelling to CBP as a Giants player after Reuben trades him for a severely declining 35 year-old Matt Cain.
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
If anyone needs to know why Uncle Suck needs to be fired, just take a look at him removing Cliff Lee after 8 2/3 last night.
Senile retard.
I didn't watch the game last night so I don't know everything that was in play surrounding the decision to pull him, but I will say this......
You are wrong, sir. Ok? Wrong.
Go Grit Go!
c'mon people, where's the HOF love? He crushed that bitch.
And he pimped it too. Good for him after Valdespin doing it too.
Kendrick about to implode.
HR to Buck
Single
Walk
Single (after choke and grit didn't catch a foul pop)
Aaaaand Kendrick gets Valedespin looking. Whew.
50 pitches thru 2....gonna see some of Durbin and Horst tonight.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 10, 2013, 07:31:55 PM
c'mon people, where's the HOF love? He crushed that bitch.
Glad to hear Franzke doing the call on that shot on the radio. Wheeler would have ruined the moment.
MAAAyberry...fargin disgusting AB. Bases loaded after a walk and be swings at the first pitch.
Pop out.
the good kendrick was out there tonight
meandering 6 inning performance where he puts on 1.5 baserunners per frame but manages to only give up 2 runs. thats as kendrick as you can get. thats why hes a 4, folks.
HOF's shot last night was right out of the natural
did the natural's hr also come against a minor league pitcher?
i dont care who that came against....it was a moonraker
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
did the natural's hr also come against a minor league pitcher?
OMG it doesn't count unless it was off of Verlander
You're not allowed to be happy when anything good happens. It's science.
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
did the natural's hr also come against a minor league pitcher?
Technically it came off a fictional pitcher.
Salty Todd is funny.
Any commentary on Michael Young?
youre the one who dropped him from your fantasy team
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 11, 2013, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 11, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
did the natural's hr also come against a minor league pitcher?
Technically it came off a fictional pitcher.
"See me after class!"
tonight - lannan vs nolasco
saturday - heidi vs fernandez
sunday - halladay vs slowey
predictions?
2/3
i dont know which 2 but id assume the first 2 since halladone is loltastic
i think even he can put in a strong six against their lineup....greg dobbs at cleanup lol
Son of a bitch, how sad is it when they're playing this JV team in Miami and the one guy you have the most faith in on the mound is Lannan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2013, 09:50:26 AM
sunday - halladay vs slowey
slowey vs slowey
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9812778/cf/doctor_slow.jpg)
with stanton being a late injury benching holy shtein at this marlins lineup
I said the same thing about the Royals lineup.
I don't always watch the Phillies... but when I do, I drink Dos Equis. Because there's no farging way I'm watching John Lannan sober.
you can watch him hit sober
I don't think Smug, David Sampson and Jeffry Loria could fit their bullshtein and massive egos in an aircraft hangar.
I hate the Marlins PBP diarrhea mouth.[/yearly rant]
Are these different Fish announcers?
On a related note...I've missed the pleasure of listening to TMac and Wheels thus far.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Are these different Fish announcers?
On a related note...I've missed the pleasure of listening to TMac and Wheels thus far.
the mets series was wonderful getting to hear the mets booth for three games....they are so friggin good
so funny seeing marlin players get foul balls and having no one in the stands to toss them to
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2013, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Are these different Fish announcers?
On a related note...I've missed the pleasure of listening to TMac and Wheels thus far.
the mets series was wonderful getting to hear the mets booth for three games....they are so friggin good
Definitely.
I loved during the rain in the 9th when Papelbon was talking to the ump Darling says "get on the mound, meat. Lets go".
That trio is golden. All provide insight and keep the flow going.
Jesus Choke! That pickoff throw kills him
Lololol and then the Marlin gets picked off at second lololol
Ha, what a trifecta of suck.
Ruggiano is picked off first, but Howard bobbles and Ruggiano gets to second base.
Then Lannan picks Ruggiano off second.
speed kills baby
i dont get running there with one out against a team that cant score
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
Jesus Choke! That pickoff throw kills him
Lololol and then the Marlin gets picked off at second lololol
That pick off was the universe correcting itself
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Are these different Fish announcers?
No, it's the same shteinstain who always announces on Fox Sports Florida.
Ironically enough Tommy Hutton is actually a decent color guy when the other fargbag shuts the hell up and lets him do his job.
It's incredible, Jay. The guy doesn't even announce what's going on. He just starts talking at the beginning of the game about everything else going on in baseball, occasionally says, "ball two" or whatever then starts jibbering again. I hate him more than any announcer I've ever heard in my entire life. For real. Just die, motherfarger. DIE!
I just clicked the mute button and he's talking about the Twins now.
Why?
That has to be a conscious decision by the team because I've never heard broadcasters talk about anything other than the game.
Quote from: SD on April 12, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
Jesus Choke! That pickoff throw kills him
Lololol and then the Marlin gets picked off at second lololol
That pick off was the universe correcting itself
Ball don't lie!
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2013, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Are these different Fish announcers?
No, it's the same shteinstain who always announces on Fox Sports Florida.
Ironically enough Tommy Hutton is actually a decent color guy when the other fargbag shuts the hell up and lets him do his job.
It's incredible, Jay. The guy doesn't even announce what's going on. He just starts talking at the beginning of the game about everything else going on in baseball, occasionally says, "ball two" or whatever then starts jibbering again. I hate him more than any announcer I've ever heard in my entire life. For real. Just die, motherfarger. DIE!
lol I thought it was a different PBP guy but now I recognize him. They're talking about everything else because the Marlins suck and they don't have Dan Uggla to scream about.
theres never been a baseball booth that didnt talk about all kinds of shtein....thats what you do in baseball...from harry carey to LA and franzke...its what baseball booths do to fill time during a really slow sport...i dont get the marlin announcer hate...they are so average...they are a 100 times better than mcarthy and wheels...tho that isnt saying much
HOF looking better and better
Nice rope by HOF.
1-0 seems like 12-0 against these guys.
ugh... 15 more games til chooch returns.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
Nice rope by HOF.
1-0 seems like 12-0 against these guys.
it is....which is why it made no sense for charlie to have a guy try and steal second last inning with men on first and third and one out
Something tells me that Revere has a permanent green light and took that on his own. Charlie lets his speed guys do their thing.
When the highlight of your broadcast is the bimbo talking to the gardener playing the trash can in left field, you know you're in trouble.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Something tells me that Revere has a permanent green light and took that on his own. Charlie lets his speed guys do their thing.
you put up a stop sign in that situation...the run getting in is top priority there...it also took away the hole on that side of the field for jimmy
Jimmy fumbled the sure double play ball and it cost the Phillies a run.
Ugh...
good inning by the odb
basticho looks filthy again. Sure, it's against guys who should be selling loose rocks at Home Depot, but still...
huge
now on first with one out and no one else on in the 10th revere doesnt run
how the farg is he not running here
holy shtein GRIT jacked that
YES
Gritty triple.
Yeah boyyyy
That foul ball strike two was smashed, and it looked like Utley barely tried
Things or people faster than Choke;
Andy Reid
Paraplegic
Glacier
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2013, 10:24:39 PM
i can never get over how cavernous the marlins park looks
Of course it's gonna look cavernous, no one is there.
cy laanan 2/2 in quality starts
haters gon hate
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 12, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2013, 10:24:39 PM
i can never get over how cavernous the marlins park looks
Of course it's gonna look cavernous, no one is there.
the field not the stadium....i think a lot of it has to do with having so much high fencing
The lime green walls are hideous.
Place is an all-around monstrosity.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/22056835/only-epic-futility-can-save-marlins-from-their-owner
This is why you don't trust rich people with money. They manipulate markets and hoard money. Now the citizens are on hook for over $2 billion over the next 40 years.
farg the Marlins and their "fans." 2 World Series wins and I'm supposed to feel anything but contempt for them?
loria should literally be in jail
No way Loria sells the team before 2015, he has to split the profits with the city if he does.
What the hell, just got three tickets to tonight's game. Other than driving through hell Miami, it shouldn't be too bad.
Geo, give Heidi our best.
I'm at the stadium. Still think it's a piece of shtein. Why is Young out? Until five minutes ago my kids and I had our section to ourselves. And the Marlins' hot dogs suck.
He's sick apparently. Available to PH.
this kid has some shtein....but please dont ever jump your 20 year old two career starts ass over the baseline again
they need to play galvis in one form or another
and believe me its not like theyll miss michael young
Total of 10 people in my section. No matter what they report, there aren't more than 10,000 here tonight.
i can understand people who never see texas games think he might be good
i watched the rangers almost every day last year...believe me. michael young sucks. he was, considering the lineup and the his spot in the order and the overall talent of the team, the least productive player in baseball last year.
Nice patient AB by Choke there... that's really gonna help him get a bead on this youngster.
clock is already ticking until the marlins trade fernandez
this might be the worst picture ive ever got on the mlb package
show that arm off freddie
when they showed austin kearns i thought it was jeff conine
Quote from: MDS on April 13, 2013, 08:11:02 PM
when they showed austin kearns i thought it was jeff conine
lol..they should have played each other in looper
somehow the phillies are going to sweep this series and the homers are goin to be out of control....just saying right now they are a terrible farging team
they could be tied by tomorrow with dc
but rome already knew that
nice angle lance
aces give up game winning singles to 20 year old pitchers
Nix 1, Phils 0
I have a two hour drive. Should I just start home now?
how embarrasing that fernandez parents couldnt get better seats
choke is a travesty
but not as much as this douche jumping over the line every inning
only 4 years and 105 mil to go!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 13, 2013, 08:31:11 PM
how embarrasing that fernandez parents couldnt get better seats
lol
There seem to be plenty available.
HOF
lay
freddie
how do you look at that you roid monkey
here comes local hero m young
i love you mr loria
lol marlins
thats what happens when you gut your whole franchise
That throw was nearly back to the Mr. and Mrs. Fernandez seats.
The team is an abortion but the most damning thing about Loria's ownership is that he can't even get 10,000 Cubans interested in watching baseball.
They're piping crowd noise through the PA system. Which also sucks, BTW.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
The team is an abortion but the most damning thing about Loria's ownership is that he can't even get 10,000 Cubans interested in watching baseball.
yeah youd think a new stadium plus fancy new caribbean bayball colors would get you minimum 10k
i love you jr.....but DIE
Now they have the crowd singing along to Living On A Prayer.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 13, 2013, 09:14:45 PM
Now they have the crowd singing along to Living On A Prayer.
welcome to a flyers game
dirty en fuego
revere
jimmy
GRIT
choke
0-11
1-13
cmon guys
no one's looking for another marlins phils extra innings game
quality at bat franzie
wow that was a not a strike....not that it matters the marlins will never win a game that goes late
this whole game on both sides is pathetic...difference is one side is trying to win the world series and the other is trying to avoid federal prosecution
polly and dobbs gonna work this win
that was a sick string pull by the frog
now its up to the sweat box to win a series against the worst team in US sports history
game was farging terrible
it really was......but im sure j or romey can put a positive spin on it
Nothing like driving through 100 miles of swamp in the dark after the game.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
game was farging terrible
bingo
plus it perfectly encapsulated why they are so terrible
-first off the supposed ace gives up a hit to the 20 year old pitcher who came to this country on a raft 4 years ago--a run set up by a terrible route your oafish right fielder took to the ball.
-then bumblefarg mcgee used 35 moves likes its game 7 of the world series and burns his entire bench over the course of 2 innings, all to get kevin frandsen an at bat
-then they score 1 measly run off a glorified AA team. and it was only because their shortstop air mailed a routine double play the backup catcher rolled in because hes farging terrible
-then, because they took the first baseman out of the game, bumblefarg has to put someone who hasnt played the position in 3 years there. and he proceeds to boot a grounder.
-finally, GRIT cant make a play a 16 year old can make and they finally lose this dreadful game
no offense. an ace that cant shut the door. horrendous defense. a manager without a clue. this is your 2013 philadelphia phillies in a nutshell.
fightins in sweet hd today on the package
jeff conine = lance armstrong
Roy Halladay vs. the Miami Marlins: the Resistible Force vs. the Movable Object
It's a great idea to let Mayberry steal with 1 out and the 8 hole hitter up with a 2 strike count. Now Halladay gets to lead off next inning.
just wait until utley and howard ruiz and delmon young get back
Jesus Christ Grit! Lay off the first pitch today.
Watching Howard run is actually painful.
this is the most depressing three days of baseball since the august 05 houston meltdown
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 02:36:26 PM
this is the most depressing three days of baseball since the august 05 houston meltdown
still vividly remember listening to WIP the day after where they had a pretty impressive mix of titanic music with harry's calls spliced in.
the only non depressing thing is freddy galvis
dude is walking. plate discipline! kids gotta play.
25 innings and these bums have scored 5 runs against a high school team.
You have got to be farging kidding me.
lol at choke sliding 10 feet before second base
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 14, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 02:36:26 PM
this is the most depressing three days of baseball since the august 05 houston meltdown
still vividly remember listening to WIP the day after where they had a pretty impressive mix of titanic music with harry's calls spliced in.
yeah that was classic
Ball 4 against Chad Smalls and Young swings at it. Die.
They're praising a crowd of 21,000 (yeah right) now.
:-D times infinity.
11hits, 1 run, 9 lob
They have two men on & none out with Chad Qualls pitching and can't get a run in.
farg this. I'm switching to Lifetime For Women.
i think all but one of those are singles
i dont want to scare you with non back of the baseball card talk but....extra base hits are how you score runs
When you have two men on and one out (which happened three times today by my count) you don't need extra base hits to score runs...you just need motherfargers to not hit into dp's.
thats 1 situation of many in this game
all they can do as a team is string singles together. its really difficult to score runs, percentage wise, when you move 1 base at a time.
hello laynce nix. see. thats what you need. homers are good. ops.
get some nixsonian
wait so hr and xbh are not back of the baseball card stuff?
That hr doesn't count because it came off of Rauch
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 03:30:38 PM
wait so hr and xbh are not back of the baseball card stuff?
ops isnt...it goes against you century old understanding of the sport that batting average tells the story
10 to 1 Papsmear blows it.
Quote from: MDS on April 14, 2013, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 03:30:38 PM
wait so hr and xbh are not back of the baseball card stuff?
ops isnt...it goes against you century old understanding of the sport that batting average tells the story
lol...ops is made up of xbh and getting on base.....two things that have been around since the civil war....just because you nerds give it a fancy three letter name doesnt make it special not does it change the meaning of double triples and home runs
not getting out will always be important
paps earning that 50 plus mil
I owe myself 10 bucks.
This team is electric, man. E-LEC-TRIC!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 14, 2013, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2013, 03:30:38 PM
wait so hr and xbh are not back of the baseball card stuff?
ops isnt...it goes against you century old understanding of the sport that batting average tells the story
lol...ops is made up of xbh and getting on base.....two things that have been around since the civil war....just because you nerds give it a fancy three letter name doesnt make it special not does it change the meaning of double triples and home runs
not getting out will always be important
honest question...do you think i know how to calculate or even know where to look up someones babip
two active SP's have 200 career wins....pettite and doc motherfargin halladay
wins are better than loses
should i bench my offense tonight in fbb
this league is so far in the back of my mind i just noticed yesterday that i had jose reyes
i dont care...i need a chris davis hr tonight in my real league
ill take that as a no
take it as a my focus may be so far off this league YOU might finish ahead of me
squad is LOADED son
holy farg what a catch
Holy shtein Ben Revere...
Jason Avant'd that shtein
GOOD GOD WHAT A CATCH!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lq1AEr4fargw/UWyPGuENN8I/AAAAAAAAAoA/6adwgEojwVM/s500/revere.gif)
his first step was all farged up but god damit did he close
speed kills, wheels. speed kills.
best catch i've ever seen from a phillie.
insane.
(http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/BEN-REVERE-CATCH.gif)
watching revere i am reminded of the defensive differences of him and bobby abreu
please never mention that lameass's name again.
thx.
well they certainly could use his bat. unless youd rather not have a dude with a +.400 obp in your lineup
but he was hysterically afraid of walls
That was a beaut.
That surpassed Milt Thompson's catch in San Diego back in 93 where he stole a homerun with an incredible leap.
rowands catch was better
the nationals already have more runs in miami than the phillies did in their entire series...oh and they are getting shutout tonight
Quote from: MDS on April 15, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
well they certainly could use his bat. unless youd rather not have a dude with a +.400 obp in your lineup
but he was hysterically afraid of walls
I'd rather have you as an English tutor for my 12 year-old than have Abreu back.
So, no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98NEg5RlWo0&feature=youtu.be
dave gallagher!
Quote from: Rome on April 15, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 15, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
well they certainly could use his bat. unless youd rather not have a dude with a +.400 obp in your lineup
but he was hysterically afraid of walls
I'd rather have you as an English tutor for my 12 year-old than have Abreu back.
So, no.
obviously hes not coming back but if youd rather have 2013 ben revere than 2004 bobby abreu you are a dope
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2013, 08:13:20 PM
rowands catch was better
the nationals already have more runs in miami than the phillies did in their entire series...oh and they are getting shutout tonight
oh shtein, forgot about Rowands.
damn you kratz!
Good one.
Also -
I just giggled at "Down Goes Frazier."
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2013, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 15, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 15, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
well they certainly could use his bat. unless youd rather not have a dude with a +.400 obp in your lineup
but he was hysterically afraid of walls
I'd rather have you as an English tutor for my 12 year-old than have Abreu back.
So, no.
obviously hes not coming back but if youd rather have 2013 ben revere than 2004 bobby abreu you are a dope
a certain sect of the wip crowd despises and forever will despise abreu because he didnt crash head first into walls and for the unproven belief he wasnt "clutch"
its all nonsense hyperbole spewed by 40 year old has been drunks at the pub and on the overnight show on wip. and lets be real, thats rome's wheelhouse
My wheelhouse is 40-plus years of baseball knowledge.
Yours is a Twitter feed.
Kill yourself.
Quote from: MDS on April 15, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2013, 08:15:19 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 15, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 15, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
well they certainly could use his bat. unless youd rather not have a dude with a +.400 obp in your lineup
but he was hysterically afraid of walls
I'd rather have you as an English tutor for my 12 year-old than have Abreu back.
So, no.
obviously hes not coming back but if youd rather have 2013 ben revere than 2004 bobby abreu you are a dope
a certain sect of the wip crowd despises and forever will despise abreu because he didnt crash head first into walls and for the unproven belief he wasnt "clutch"
its all nonsense hyperbole spewed by 40 year old has been drunks at the pub and on the overnight show on wip. and lets be real, thats rome's wheelhouse
i love the people who said he walked to much...and that his walks were due to him being afraid to swing at the ball...as if all those 100 rbi season came on bases loaded walks
40 plus years of knowledge tells you that someone who doesnt make an out 40 percent of the time he steps up to the plate is a bad player?
I miss arguing about Bobby A.
Nice job by Kratz there. Way to block the ball, dipshtein.
kratz stinks
really poor pitch selection by lee and him. kept hammering bruce inside...he never bit...then tried away and low for the farg of it and bruce didnt blink. then the low ones eats up kratz because hes not a major league player.
also manuel had the infielders back for some reason during that at bat. with his offense mailing this game in. dumbass hillbilly.
Game over.
Time for bed.
i feel bad for kratz...hes in way over his head all the pitchers hate him and its not even his fault...chooch is the POS for causing them to be in this position....but of course he will be suckled when he comes back
hahaha
cliff lee has basically quit....he cant believe he has to pitch for this zesty ass team
it would have already been 2-0 if not for revere's catch
but that doesnt take away from this pathetic lineup and the pathetic hitting guru manager who sits there picking his icehole while it happens
they have six runs in the last 36 innings against the marlins and bronson arroyo
the flyers have five goals with four minute left in the secnd period tonight
lol GRIT ME IN THE GRIT
GRIT
Ha. Crushed.
Motherfcking grit!!!!
Wooooo
how on earth do you give him something to hit there with two outs and revere on deck
what an abomination by arroyo
best case scenario revere singles...ok so thats 1 run. then its galvis (or a pinch hitter). i mean how do you give utley something to hit with NOTHING coming up behind him. and you have a run to play with because chapman will mow down this lineup like its nothing.
lolaynce
I posted in the flyers thread whoops
Jeremy Horst.
mike adams about to earn his nut
bye bye jeremy horst. say hi to tommy joseph in lehigh
horst blows but 97% of OF's catch that ball standing up....hideous reaction off the bat...slower than dirt getting to the ball...negative athletic ability to make the catch
Why was Jeremy Horst anywhere near this game?
I mean, come on.
I know I shouldn't be but I actually laughed out loud at that throw by Nix.
lol laynce almost hit galvis on that throw
please abort this awful team
Quote from: Rome on April 15, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
I know I shouldn't be but I actually laughed out loud at that throw by Nix.
all you can do is laugh at these clowns...its hilarious at some of the players smug put on this roster
i just love how this team is put together and managed
manuel and amaro deserve each other
im giddy for the choke k vs. chapman
comedy event of the year coming up
Layyyyynce Nix should never do anything but PH.
Matt Stairs wasn't put in the field and neither should this farging dope. Pinch hitter, buddy...that's it.
Aroldis vs Choke....gonna be nasty
Nix in right field instead of Mayberry. Horst pitching instead of Adams (or even ODB).
It's just so predictable right now.
The old hick needs to be sent packing and Smug needs to board the same spaceship bound for the sun with him.
lol galvis doesnt even know what to do here
that was the anti laynce nix
Their corner outfielder makes the routine flare catch, ours doesn't.
Welcome to 2013.
its unreal how easy chapmans delivery is and then a 100 mph ball comes out of it
Jimmy can't catch up to it. I mean, really, few people can, but ugh...
90 MPH hook = UNFAIR.
90 mph breaking ball right after a 100 mph fastball
not fair
choke needs to start his swing when chapman is playin with the rosin bag
lets give credit where credit is due
he didnt strike out on 3 pitches
I love how the old fat POS actually lets the one pitch he could have hit to Pittsburgh go right past him and swings at the other shtein at eyeball level.
Damn even the umps are #42. Americans sure do love them some causes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2013, 09:37:32 PM
choke needs to start his swing when chapman is playin with the rosin bag
el oh farging el.
Cliff Lee running above ev for wins and losses. 23.3 innings, 0.68 whip, 1.52 era, 2-1.
Quote from: Chameleon on April 15, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Damn even the umps are #42. Americans sure do love them some causes.
elvis - was a hero to most but he never meant shtein to me...straight up racist the sucker was simple and plain...motherfarg him and john wayne
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on April 15, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Damn even the umps are #42. Americans sure do love them some causes.
elvis - was a hero to most but he never meant shtein to me...straight up racist the sucker was simple and plain...motherfarg him and john wayne
Hmmmmm. How do you feel about Chuck Connors?
Don't farg with The Rifleman.
first pitch
christian bale on the mound for the reds
This weak-ass lineup is really going to waste the best effort of Kendrick's career.
Well it's been fun watching this whiff-fest.
Zzzzzzzzzzz
Get a goddamn run. HOF was so close on his 3-0 green light in the 8th.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2013, 10:25:32 PM
This weak-ass lineup is really going to waste the best effort of Kendrick's career.
Sure did. 2 hit the Reds and dick for support.
And now back to a delay. I'm out - 5:30 comes too early.
hitting guru charlie manuel getting it done once again
"we gon hit."
no we gon not gon hit
they have GRIT...six .245 hitters with no power and one .200 hitter with power
its absolutely painful
oh and AAAberry leads the team in BB
if they fully embraced who they are...maybe just maybe they could be ok.
but that would have had to start in january with a focus on speed and defense. no michael youngs no laynce nixs and certainly no erik kratzs. you allocate the young $ in pitching, specifically the front end of the bullpen. you try to win every game 2-1 or 3-2 or something like that. short, compact swings. aggressive baserunning. full and complete understanding in your limitations from the 25th guy to the manager.
but rube didnt set it up like that and ol chuckles mcgoo can only play 1 way--we gon hit them 3 run homers. and thats why they suck.
1-0 loss.
9 minutes for the Reds to beat them
I turned it on at 5:45 est. Missed it by that much! Good. Sounds like Aumont and his 18 hour break shtein the bed.
Lannan about to shtein something.
Again they give up a RBI hit to Phillips.
PS - choke needs to step his shtein up
Ballgame 2-0 on anothe Frazier homer
"Just wait until it warms up" - That should be on the back of Choke's jersey. So sick of that excuse. Then bench his trillion dollar ass until May 1.
Turned it off. Just have no desire for more of the same crap. Sad to feel this way when it's still April.
Triple given up to the goddamn pitcher. RBI farging triple to the motherfarging pitcher.
farg.
your guys mix of anger suprise and disappointment is pretty funny
take away GRIT's pinch hit homer and the phils have six runs in the last six games
espn might wanna adjust their mlb tv schedule so the phils arent on so much
So I made the right decision...
i turned to the sixers...does that answer your question?
also aj burnett has a no hitter going into the 7th
beltran breaks it up two out/7th inn
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2013, 08:41:17 PM
i turned to the sixers...does that answer your question?
And I turned on hockey.
They struck out 24 times in the Reds series.
And they didn't draw ONE DAMN WALK THE ENTIRE SERIES!!
Last time that happened? 1995.
Not one walk!!
HOF hurt his back. Lannans knee was messed up.
Revere is hitting .190 and was 0-15
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
your guys mix of anger suprise and disappointment is pretty funny
this
theres no sense in even talking about this terrible team. im just looking ahead to the deadline and potential trade partners. dodgers need a second baseman...dont they?
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Papelbon-Obama-wants-to-take-our-guns.html
Quote"The Phillies did this thing the other day where we came down through the bleachers for one opening game, and I don't feel comfortable doing that," Papelbon said. "I really, truly don't. Today's day and age has gotten so crazy, everything. You know, all this stuff going on. Shoot, man, Obama wants to take our guns from us and everything, you've got this kind of stuff going on. It's a little bit insane for me. I really don't know how to take it."
just a fabulous free agent signing
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2013, 12:28:20 AM
They struck out 24 times in the Reds series.
And they didn't draw ONE DAMN WALK THE ENTIRE SERIES!!
Last time that happened? 1995.
Not one walk
joey votto by himself has more walks than revere jimmy GRIT choke HOF nix and kratz COMBINED.....or to look at it another way...seven of their eight starters
the lolfactor is they are being pitched too...and they are incapable of doing anything with it
they just have no talent whatsoever on this team and everyone across baseball knows it. in fact the only people who dont know it are charlie manuel, rome, j, don and entire continent of south jersey
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2013, 12:28:20 AM
They struck out 24 times in the Reds series.
And they didn't draw ONE DAMN WALK THE ENTIRE SERIES!!
Last time that happened? 1995.
Not one walk!!
People need to be castrated with rusty garden tools for that. Unbelievable.
You all know what will fix this wreck? A players only meeting!
Quote from: MDS on April 18, 2013, 01:40:53 PM
the lolfactor is they are being pitched too...and they are incapable of doing anything with it
they just have no talent whatsoever on this team and everyone across baseball knows it. in fact the only people who dont know it are charlie manuel, rome, j, don and entire continent of south jersey
We certainly know your opinion because you post the same thing again and again.
We get it. Shut up, already.
"I don't like what you're saying so please don't say it."
We reap what we sew. Phillies included, just goes to show you why the poor stay poor no matter what amount of luck they are struck with. Success breeds irrational expectation. It's pathetic really. As smart as man may be, man is irrational as farg. Intelligence loses to emotion all day, which is why our world is so totally boned. the desperation for championships in Philadelphia is pathetic. If Philadelphia was a guy in bar it/he would never get laid. EVER.
Quote from: MDS on April 18, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
"I don't like what you're saying so please don't say it."
+
i like this new guy....or is it FF?
Jimmy back in the leadoff spot and Galvis hitting 2nd in LF tonight
Lannan on the DL
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Jimmy back in the leadoff spot and Galvis hitting 2nd in LF tonight
Lannan on the DL
All is well in the world.
Seriously though, fire amaro, fire Charlie. Let's be sellers not buyers, pawn off all assets of value for young cheap talent. Success doesn't mean shtein if you can't back it up. The Phillies won the lottery and now are in position where it's time to declare bankruptcy. This shouldn't be a surprise if you have had any perspective at all over the past 5 years. This ship was sinking before it won the world series.
Quote from: Chameleon on April 18, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
Seriously though, fire amaro, fire Charlie.
Can Charlie make it through August? Unless it gets so bad (we're almost there) does he make it to July 4? We see more shtein like we saw in Cincy it's not out of the question. Even if the starting pitching comes around, with this offense and middle bullpen it's hard to see them even being a .500 club.
Quote from: MDS on April 18, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
"I don't like what you're saying so please don't say it."
No. I agree with it. What I'm saying is we understand your feelings so you don't have to repeatedly post the same thought again and again. It's redundant and tiresome to have to read every day. Do you understand? If not, I'll just post the same thing every time you reply here until you get it through your thick farging skull.
cardinal announcer #1 - "phillies havent drawn a walk in THREE games"
cardinal announcer #2 - "damn thats hard to do"
Fire Charlie. That's where you start with this group. Give Ryno a month or two to turn it around and when he can't start selling like a motherfarger. Fire sale this bitch into oblivion.
lol AAA
Triple A :-D
And with that Heidi about to implode.
Foul ball. So what.
Yawn.
What a buncha farging bums.
you trying to send that cheeeeeeese now?
freddy g must have some leftover juice flowin in them veins
Adams is looking like another great pick up by Rube
Jimmy jimmy jimmy...awful AB in the 9th. You cannot strike out there.
1st and 3rd no outs...farging bums.
Son of a bitch! Jimmy what the farg with that at bat?
1st and 3rd, no outs and nothing? farging clowns.
bad teams find ways to lose games rather easily
the phillies are a bad, bad team. sorry rome. luv ya!
It's games like this that give me confidence in my 78 win prediction.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
It's games like this that give me confidence in my 78 win prediction.
Lol, under.
lol at this number....
Phillies are 2-for-48 with 20 strikeouts against left-handed relievers.
WE GET IT
youve been posting the same shtein for a month now. you think theyre bad. move on to something else.
QuoteThe Phillies recalled lefty Joe Savery from the Triple A Lehigh Valley IronPigs Thursday night to replace injured John Lannan, who was placed on the 15-day disabled list earlier in the day (see story).
Lannan left the Phillies' game on Wednesday night against the Reds after just 1 2/3 innings, and on Thursday he was diagnosed with what general manager Ruben Amaro called a "fairly serious" quad strain. He's expected to miss six to eight weeks.
Savery, a converted first baseman, is 1-0 with a 0.00 ERA in five games so far this year at Lehigh Valley. He has 11 strikeouts and no walks.
Amaro said earlier Thursday that whomever the Phillies recalled now would not replace Lannan in the rotation but would be here for at least the next few days. He said the Phillies will make a move for a starter by Monday, when Lannan's turn in the rotation comes up.
Go get um' smuggy!
lol who wrote that?
savery is not a converted first baseman
if you thought their offense was bad before...check out the lineup tonight
jimmy-freddy-grits-myoung-aaa-frandsen-revere-quintero-halldone
goodnight irene
Quote from: Don Ho on April 19, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
QuoteThe Phillies recalled lefty Joe Savery from the Triple A Lehigh Valley IronPigs Thursday night to replace injured John Lannan, who was placed on the 15-day disabled list earlier in the day (see story).
Lannan left the Phillies' game on Wednesday night against the Reds after just 1 2/3 innings, and on Thursday he was diagnosed with what general manager Ruben Amaro called a "fairly serious" quad strain. He's expected to miss six to eight weeks.
Savery, a converted first baseman, is 1-0 with a 0.00 ERA in five games so far this year at Lehigh Valley. He has 11 strikeouts and no walks.
Amaro said earlier Thursday that whomever the Phillies recalled now would not replace Lannan in the rotation but would be here for at least the next few days. He said the Phillies will make a move for a starter by Monday, when Lannan's turn in the rotation comes up.
Go get um' smuggy!
Pitcher-turned-hitter-turned-pitcher. Those always work out well.
Quote from: MDS on April 19, 2013, 03:02:14 PM
jimmy-freddy-grits-myoung-aaa-frandsen-revere-quintero-halldone
that is beyond belief
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
lol who wrote that?
savery is not a converted first baseman
That was news to me as well. Unfortunatley it came from the Bleacher Report so you know how that goes.
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jimmy-freddy-grits-myoung-aaa-frandsen-revere-quintero-halldone
that is beyond belief
Oh my farging God! Garcia can throw off the mound from a beach chair with a cocktail in one hand and shut that lineup down.
:o
game is going to get rained out
Easy 1st inning for Doc and a 2 out rally for the Phils. WTF is going on here?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2013, 07:28:16 PM
Easy 1st inning for Doc and a 2 out rally for the Phils. WTF is going on here?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2013, 07:28:12 PM
game is going to get rained out
If Halladay gets a hit, I'm guessing some kind of conspiracy.
Thought it was nice of him to give one right back like that.
Somehow Galvis didn't break his wrist on that catch.
Also, almost hate to say it, but Halladay's looking pretty good tonight again. Won't say he's back, but it's nice to see him pitching well twice in a row.
It's irrelevant if he's back or not because the offense won't give him big leads that early very often. He's hitting like 92 on the gun though, so that's a good sign that he might not be complete toast....yet.
wait til it starts getting hot and humid
It is hot and humid..........in my pants.
ew?
Spew?
phillies need to shut down doc asap
sell high SELL HIGH
Clifford is walking people...and WTF with GRIT on that ball??
haha thats the one comment from this game
sunday nighter tomorrow...everyone gets to see kyle kendrick pitch and michael young bat cleanup
How true, we're down to one comment for a Saturday game.
Meh, I was at the game. It was not worthy of comment.
Had it on the TV and the Flyers on the computer while doing some lesson planning. Ended up paying more attention to the Flyers game.
Simmonds 3, Phillies 0.
Jonathan Pettibone to start tomorrow
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
Jonathan Pettibone to start tomorrow
With a Pettibone-Papelbon double-ender, hbionic may just become a Phillies fan.
lol probably
I played HS ball with a dude by the name of Pettibone and had to check and see if this was the same guy - it's not. Because had it been I'd have lost my mind because he sucked.
pettibone was their number one prospect like three/four years ago j....you never heard of him?
I guess Tyler Cloyd has fallen into the abyss. How bad is giving up both Worley and May for Revere looking now? May has been opening a lot of eyes with the Twins.
They could of held onto both and signed Bourne for $10 million a year.
i still get sick everytime i hear adam jones' name
Quote from: SD on April 21, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
I guess Tyler Cloyd has fallen into the abyss. How bad is giving up both Worley and May for Revere looking now? May has been opening a lot of eyes with the Twins.
They could of held onto both and signed Bourne for $10 million a year.
Just looked up Cloyd's stats so far in AAA...he's been lit the farg up. Has a K/9 over 9, but an ERA north of 7 lol
This team makes me sick.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 05:02:20 PM
pettibone was their number one prospect like three/four years ago j....you never heard of him?
Yeah I had a brain cramp. I saw Pettibone and was like "no way"
Especially since I know the Phillies scouted my town hard my junior and senior years.
him and adam morgan better be good
you cant really buy good pitchers for 3 more years because someone decided to give howard lee hamels a combined 70 mil per season
Quote from: Munson on April 21, 2013, 05:18:03 PM
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I guess Tyler Cloyd has fallen into the abyss. How bad is giving up both Worley and May for Revere looking now? May has been opening a lot of eyes with the Twins.
They could of held onto both and signed Bourne for $10 million a year.
Just looked up Cloyd's stats so far in AAA...he's been lit the farg up. Has a K/9 over 9, but an ERA north of 7 lol
He doesn't have major league stuff. They should have traded him when he was still considered a decent prospect. Not always but some teams do get caught up in stats.
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I guess Tyler Cloyd has fallen into the abyss. How bad is giving up both Worley and May for Revere looking now? May has been opening a lot of eyes with the Twins.
They could of held onto both and signed Bourne for $10 million a year.
Just looked up Cloyd's stats so far in AAA...he's been lit the farg up. Has a K/9 over 9, but an ERA north of 7 lol
He doesn't have major league stuff. They should have traded him when he was still considered a decent prospect. Not always but some teams do get caught up in stats.
so roob isnt a great gm?
I didn't think Gillick was a great GM either. Actually had this conversation last night at the bar and completely changed my buddies mind after I ran down his list of farg ups.
gillick was a genius
I wanna hear his list of farg ups.
And you have to take into account his successes in TOR and BAL
Gillick was great for the Jays and Mariners. He was average at best with the Phillies
Freddie Garcia for Gio Gonzales and Gavin Floyd is one of the 5 worst trades in club history
signing Adam Eaton
The Lidge trade is fine and I would do it in a heartbeat because of the end result but Bourne was a much better value
Really he signed Werth which was a good move. Other than that what genius moves did he make?
he won them a world series
but he sucks
Trading for Jaime Moyer
Signing Matt Stairs
Signing Jayson Werth
Trading for Brad Lidge
Won World Series
The end.
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
he won them a world series
but he sucks
If Wade stays the GM they still win the WS. He planted the seeds and Gillick got to watch them grow.
are you trolling on purpose or something
Completely disagree and that's not just because I dislike Wade.
Gillick knew how to assemble the glue guys...and Wade doesn't sign Werth...do they win without Werth?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Trading for Jaime Moyer
Signing Matt Stairs
Signing Jayson Werth
Trading for Brad Lidge
Won World Series
The end.
All extremely average moves and the Lidge trade worked out for one year but Bourn was the better value. The Freddie Garcia trade and Adam Eaton signing were a disgrace.
All GMs have stinker moves. Eaton was terrible as was dealing for Freddy. He was blinded by Garcia's success as a Mariner. Plus Floyd wasn't showing much and Gio was an unknown at the time (as all minor leaguers are). Floyd has been a .500 pitcher for his CWS career.
They don't win 2008 without Lidge or Werth.
Stairs has one of the biggest homers in club history...
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
he won them a world series
but he sucks
lol
not just that but pretty much everyone he acquired played a part in the title win
We got the wrong Jr. Need Gillick Jr.
having a hard time watching this over the heat bucks
Jesus Christ, how many pitches did KK throw? Lucky to get out only down 1-0.
Oh shtein, forgot about Heat/Bucks.
watching a big bang theory rerun instead of this garbage.
GOT in 34
jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmay
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2013, 08:23:37 PM
watching a big bang theory rerun instead of this garbage.
No way you're serious.
PS - I love Rollins.
GOAT Phillie
I've got to wait 5 more hours for Madmen due to AMC delayed here. Trust me not even up for debate if I'd watch this garbage over Don Draper violating his neighbor's wife.
Jimmy on 3rd no outs, they'll end the inning with no runs. GUARANTEED
1st and 3rd no outs hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, sounds familiar.
will he be GRIT or GRISTLE here??
Quote from: SD on April 21, 2013, 08:29:37 PM
Jimmy on 3rd no outs, they'll end the inning with no runs. GUARANTEED
why you gotta hate on jimmy....he always scores
GRITtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttay
Well farg me! The bums actualy manufactured a run.
Oh shtein, here it comes.
Now Choke...whatcha got, homie?
Sac Fly
good
Ok, that works.
How did that thing not go out?
WTF?
Grit done farged that all good...atta boy. Way to be a dumbfarg.
thats why hes known as GRIT not SMART
Holy GRIT
Quote from: Don Ho on April 21, 2013, 08:34:44 PM
How did that thing not go out?
He needs to start the juice
Nice analysis by the ESPN announcer breaking Howard's swing down. He turned his hips too far in and didn't get as much power as he could from that swing which was right on the money otherwise.
Penny's in her underwear right now on Big Bang Theory in case anyone cares.
Quote from: SD on April 21, 2013, 08:37:50 PM
Nice analysis by the ESPN announcer breaking Howard's swing down. He turned his hips too far in and didn't get as much power as he could from that swing which was right on the money otherwise.
John Kruk
gotta love a leadoff walk immediately after a multi run inning
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
Quote from: SD on April 21, 2013, 08:37:50 PM
Nice analysis by the ESPN announcer breaking Howard's swing down. He turned his hips too far in and didn't get as much power as he could from that swing which was right on the money otherwise.
John Kruk
QuoteESPN's John Kruk will debut as Sunday Night Baseball analyst this season, alongside play-by-play commentator Dan Shulman, fellow analyst Orel Hershiser and reporter Buster Olney.
When it comes to baseball ESPN does have great announcers in the booth, excluding Chris "I'm bigger than the game" Bermen of course.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
gotta love a leadoff walk immediately after a multi run inning
Disaster diverted to later inning.
jesus HOF stinks....but he has a good eye
of all the misfires of the rube era knighting him may take the cake
how bad is this outfield?
do not ever again throw lee and halladay in with choke jimmy and grit
kendrick throws strikes
HOF is gun shy...
SHOULD HAVE DOVE FOR THE BALL
holy shtein kudos to the crowd for booing there.....i went bonkers screaming at the tv when that ball dropped in
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 09:17:35 PM
holy shtein kudos to the crowd for booing there.....i went bonkers screaming at the tv when that ball dropped in
double kudos for the Bronx cheer after that can o' corn....
and props to my guy Krukkie for his "i don't know how else to say this but...he's not a gifted OF"
love Kruk...
all kk does is throw strikes
gotta go IBB here and hope for a sinker DP
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CHOKE
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HA! HA! :-D :-D :-D :-D What a farging joke! Defense as bad as the offense.
good lord howard is terrible
somewhere ruben amaro is smugly shrugging his shoulders because they didnt score a run
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 09:59:03 PM
good lord howard is terrible
somewhere ruben amaro is smugly shrugging his shoulders because they didnt score a run
He high fived himself and then slugged down a shot of tequila
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 09:59:03 PM
somewhere ruben amaro is smugly shrugging his shoulders because they didnt score a run
He's probably high fiving phillies brass in the club box.
And throw the ball home Young you Hoyda!
Stupid Grit keeps running on the ground rule double.
Gritty ground rule double
Not only are they bad, they're stupid.
lol howard gets high fives all around for grounding out
25 million for something i could have done
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 10:04:21 PM
lol howard gets high fives all around for grounding out
25 million for something i could have done
lol
if there was a time to squeeze it would be right here
charlie...think you farging dolt
wow
OH JESUS fargING SONOFAMOTHERfargING CHRIST
and thats why im still confused how they won in 2008 with this doofus calling the shots
revere cant hit the ball out of the infield...but lets let him swing away with a drawn in infield and see what happens. ok.
farging losers!
Great catch Revere the other day but goddamn you suck.
whats sad is that was the hardest ball hes ever hit
btw - lol at the moneyballer calling for a bunt...I thought people of your ilk dislike bunts
nice pickup for cf rube
Go Grit Go!
welp....this is ridiculous.
CHOKE...COME ON!!!!!!!!
spoiler alert: they aren't going to win this game
With a competent GM in place you have:
Worley > Lannan
Bourn > Revere
May still in the minors
lol at the endless defense of GRIT....has he ever done anything wrong
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
btw - lol at the moneyballer calling for a bunt...I thought people of your ilk dislike bunts
im not a moneyballer and bunts are only stupid when you give up an out to get someone to 2nd
squeeze is in place of a sac fly...something revere cant do. in fact i love squeezing and manuels refusal to find creative ways to score runs are among the many reasons why hes not good at his job
Kruk with another great call on Howard and his left foot on the first base side of the box bag.
Maybe Charlie will explain it to him in the dugout. Hopefully choke speaks caveman.
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
btw - lol at the moneyballer calling for a bunt...I thought people of your ilk dislike bunts
im not a moneyballer and bunts are only stupid when you give up an out to get someone to 2nd
squeeze is in place of a sac fly...something revere cant do. in fact i love squeezing and manuels refusal to find creative ways to score runs are among the many reasons why hes not good at his job
you are a moneyballer tho
Durbin! Oh this is going to end well.
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbin is coming on
BEER TIME
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
btw - lol at the moneyballer calling for a bunt...I thought people of your ilk dislike bunts
im not a moneyballer and bunts are only stupid when you give up an out to get someone to 2nd
squeeze is in place of a sac fly...something revere cant do. in fact i love squeezing and manuels refusal to find creative ways to score runs are among the many reasons why hes not good at his job
you are a moneyballer tho
if not valuing pitchers w/l records and not liking bunts to move a runner from 1st to 2nd = being a moneyballer, than i guess im guilty
Game on the line, so it's time to bring in...
CHAD DURBIN?
is there anyone in the phillies bullpen that can come in and get a strikeout....aumont has the stuff but he stinks...bottom line is that you have to have a power arm back there that can come in and put people away and they dont have it
durbin continues his impeccable streak of allowing every inherited runner to score
pretty amazing
lol mannn this is a goddamn joke
Choke should have rested that groin again tonight.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
spoiler alert: they aren't going to win this many games this season
why is chokes footwork more important than GRIT being able to put a ball in the first basemans glove from 10 feet away.....im so confused
because white people who hustle bla bla bla
Yep, Kruk did mention Grit's throw but he's piling on Choke. That was on Grit. Horrible throw. Maybe Choke gets him but it shouldn't have come down to the exact science of where his foot was. Just an interesting observation by Kruk.
Would have loved to have heard Wheel's insights on it - "Ryan just loves to play baseball, he just loves the game"
lol @ that crowd response
CHOKE!!! See, he can do it!
Bums should be losing this game by 4 or 5 runs.
GO ROYALS!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
why is chokes footwork more important than GRIT being able to put a ball in the first basemans glove from 10 feet away.....im so confused
1. off balanced throw
2. Choke's footwork has been a topic of discussion from Keith Hernandez and Kruk..two stellar defensive 1B
3. either way they all should be booed like hell
4. i need more drank
lol @ off balanced throw
it was as routine as its gets
dont let them drag you in
no dragging here...either way Choke sucks...
LAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYNCE
RBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
laynce is getting larrrrrrger
Wow! A bullpen as bad as ours!
farg a duck!
dare i say a really good AB for laynce
small sample size but he might be a good pinch hitter
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
dare i say a really good AB for laynce
small sample size but he might be a good pinch hitter
hes the 2013 matt stairs except he wont be hitting in the post season
maybe choate vs choke
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 10:56:36 PM
maybe choate vs choke
every time they said "choate" i was thinking "choke". sometimes i forget the real world still calls him ryan howard
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2013, 10:56:36 PM
maybe choate vs choke
every time they said "choate" i was thinking "choke". sometimes i forget the real world still calls him ryan howard
ive definitely been at bars and referred to him as choke to an unknowing stranger
And Choke is CF specific. I sometimes call him that around others and they look at me sideways.
When I heard Choate I think Chode
michael 'so whatcha want' young
Sweet swing there Dom...
Lets gooooo
same situation as the last time
charlie gon hit
BIG BEN
lets do this!
charlie charlie charlie
all hail the king
holla at cha boi
Holy shtein! Kratz?
and marlton goes craaaazeeee
Well farg me...helluva inning
Holy Kratz!
papelbon pissy he just lost the save
Quote from: MDS on April 21, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
papelbon pissy he just lost the save
all he can think about is boston
What the hell is going on here?
wow if the inning keeps going like this, young might get a chance to extend his hit streak *legitimately*
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papelbon pissy he just lost the save
all he can think about is boston
and obama taking his guns away
And how uncomfortable and unsafe it is to walk through the crowds to get onto the field.
now hes gonna come in and take 35 minutes between pitches
i cant wait until hes traded to detroit this summer
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papelbon pissy he just lost the save
all he can think about is boston
and obama taking his guns away
And how uncomfortable and unsafe it is to walk through the crowds to get onto the field.
poor millionaire
I still crack up when thinking about the Mets game in the downpour when he's trying to slow roll it and Darling goes off on him. "Get on the mound, meat. Lets go!"
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papelbon pissy he just lost the save
all he can think about is boston
and obama taking his guns away
And how uncomfortable and unsafe it is to walk through the crowds to get onto the field.
poor millionaire
I still crack up when thinking about the Mets game in the downpour when he's trying to slow roll it and Darling goes off on him. "Get on the mound, meat. Lets go!"
yeah that was so funny....mets booth = goat
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22115932/phillies-gm-ruben-amaro-jr-questions-delmon-youngs-defense
you have to admit rubes got comedy chops
Yeah he signs him and then is shocked.
The game is blacked out for me for some reason. Shows on ch214 but then says blacked out. Not in the normal extra innings channel line up. What the farg
working fine for me...going with pirates homers in my season long quest to never hear tmac or wheels
ps pettibone blows. everything is right down the pipehole. getting some major help from umps/defense
Pretty sure Marte could play left and Center and the Pirates defense wouldn't miss a beat
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
working fine for me...going with pirates homers in my season long quest to never hear tmac or wheels
ps pettibone blows. everything is right down the pipehole. getting some major help from umps/defense
You have direct?
Marte and McCutcheon roaming the outfield? Not fair.
How was that not a double play by Pirates on AAA's dribbler?
Jesus, bases loaded, no outs and just like that 2 down.
Rollins gets an RBI the hard way. Ouch.
In Triple A we trust! Douche! That was ball 4 dip shtein!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2013, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 22, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
working fine for me...going with pirates homers in my season long quest to never hear tmac or wheels
ps pettibone blows. everything is right down the pipehole. getting some major help from umps/defense
You have direct?
im not over 50 i dont have EI
i was actually listening when out for a run and its disgusting how good franzke and LA are. LA would be a god if he was on TV
Oh yeah for sure. They're both awesome. Listening to them and then going back to the tv jerks makes me angry.
i love LA but hes a clown and wouldnt work on TV...he can be an idiot on radio and be awesome....franzke is legit HOF material though
Jesse Biddle struck out 16 in 7 innings for Reading last night
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2013, 07:11:47 AM
i love LA but hes a clown and wouldnt work on TV...he can be an idiot on radio and be awesome....franzke is legit HOF material though
local broadcasts are all about the personalities--especially the color guys...you cant compare LA to someone youd see on espn or fox. its not so much as someone who gives you good insight as it is someone who you genuinely like spending 3 hours with each night.
case and point: whitey. he was a terrible analyst. never prepared, barely cared. was always chasing after Hoyda and smoking. didnt matter did it.
Quote from: MDS on April 23, 2013, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2013, 07:11:47 AM
i love LA but hes a clown and wouldnt work on TV...he can be an idiot on radio and be awesome....franzke is legit HOF material though
local broadcasts are all about the personalities--especially the color guys...you cant compare LA to someone youd see on espn or fox. its not so much as someone who gives you good insight as it is someone who you genuinely like spending 3 hours with each night.
case and point: whitey. he was a terrible analyst. never prepared, barely cared. was always chasing after Hoyda and smoking. didnt matter did it.
im not comparing him to anyone...hes not a TV guy and wouldnt work there....in fact hes overrated in general....hes good in small doses....the rare occasions where you catch a game on radio...but he would be much less effective as a full time tv guy...yeah whitey is the perfect example....he should have not been on tv...he was awful...harry was the HOF'er
i never said whitey shouldnt have been on tv i said he was a terrible analyst, which he was. in fact most of what he did was goof around...which is exactly what you claim LA would do, or something.
basically you are wrong about LA he would awesome and he is awesome in LARGE doses on radio.
love him as a guy.....but hes a terrible baseball announcer who should not be on tv and embarrass the franchise
franzke and when he retires jimmy as a new tv pairing....and we pray
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2013, 02:01:39 PMembarrass the franchise
you do realize who the announcers are now
Havas drunk a 1pm on a Tuesday afternoon
Quote from: MDS on April 23, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2013, 02:01:39 PMembarrass the franchise
you do realize who the announcers are now
oh hes one gazillion times better than what they have now...of course id take that...but that that goes without saying...i thought you were saying he should be the next color guy for the long term (after wheels goes)
i absolutely am...franzke and LA could do it for the next 30 years. theyre great.
first of all LA is 60
second of all.....NO
i like turtles
Another night without the game on EI.
Toddo...is Comcast withholding games from the package in their pissing match with DTV?
No Pittsburgh telecast on MLB.TV, just Comcast. So you may be right.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2013, 07:13:35 PM
Another night without the game on EI.
Toddo...is Comcast withholding games from the package in their pissing match with DTV?
its a loophole. for whatever reason pitt isnt airing the game. when the phils get pushed to cn8 because of the flyers/sixers, they dont have to give their game to EI. thats why you can watch it.
of course it would have been 60 bucks to split MLBTV this year but someone didnt want to go halfsies on that.
rome: the guy that used to defend wheels when i would call him the worst announcer in any sport ever and who thinks the marlin announcrs are worse than the phillies
Quote from: MDS on April 23, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
its a loophole. for whatever reason pitt isnt airing the game. when the phils get pushed to cn8 because of the flyers/sixers, they dont have to give their game to EI. thats why you can watch it.
of course it would have been 60 bucks to split MLBTV this year but someone didnt want to go halfsies on that.
yeah like someone is going to get the mlbtv package over EI because of a tuesday night game against the pirates...if you guys were real city sports fans youd be watching the flyers on nbcs and barely even know the phillies are playing
you get mlbtv over EI because its a superior product in every way shape and form...and last time i checked us southern negros dont watch white people playing lacrosse on ice
also this team sucks
Another good outing by Halladay, but Rollins left his brain at home or something today. Two moronic baserunning plays.
After his 1st 2 starts of the season, I really thought Halladay was Halladone. I'm still holding out until I see how he pitches during the summer heat and humidity, but at this moment it's looking like many of us may have wrote him off too soon.
Good to see that the bullpen is as good as last year. Thanks, Amaro!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
rome: the guy that used to defend wheels when i would call him the worst announcer in any sport ever and who thinks the marlin announcrs are worse than the phillies
I never once in my entire life defended Chris Wheeler, trailer trash. Try again.
So I get home from a paid in full drunk fest from a vendor and see they lost after holding a lead?
Yay.
farging shtein bags
YEA WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THEM
step it up. PLAY BETTER. execute! come on guys wake up. this is unacceptable!
Even though you cant really complain about his performance overall, if Doc doesn't take 95 pitches to get through 6 innings, the Phils probably win. He's looked good his last 3 outings but if he can't consistently go into the 7th or later then it's just a bunch of window dressing because the pen sucks something awful. Maybe he becomes trade bait though. Does he have a full ntc?
he has a partial no trade....i think its 20 teams
the backend of the pen has been terrific actually...mike adams blew a game for the first time this year. its late april. it happens.
when youre bad you overreact and go into hyperbole mode when shtein goes wrong. oh the pen sucks halladone cant go longer into games the offense bla bla bla.
the fact of the matter last night was a game they win 3 years ago when they were good. with ease. now they suck and cant win unless every little thing goes right. you guys are watching a bad baseball team. just accept that and life will be easier.
setting aside the pitching for a moment, the team literally has one player in the lineup who could fairly be described as good -- utley -- and the odds are he'll be hurt in a month or so. after that you have one player who is probably still above average for his position - rollins - and the rest of the lineup is average or (much) worse.
breaking news, i know, but they don't even have above average players anymore.
they dont have a single outfielder who should be in the major leagues....think about that
pedro alvarez is now like 7-10 this series and is hitting under .200 for the year
Ahh, 7 AM baseball.
random statistic: baseball reference filters people by having a minimum of 80 stolen base attempts, but of all MLB players in HISTORY who have attempted at least 80 SBs, Chase Utley has the best steal percentage in baseball history. weird.
Goddmamn this team blows. farging bullpen, again.
HA! farging losers. Durbin, Horst, Aumont - do you feel it!
i thought i watched this game yesterday
It's not even Cinco De Mayo yet and I'm already over watching these clowns.
So are the fans. The last 3 games totaled 99,000 in attendance, the lowest in 6 years
Keep walking Cholly.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 25, 2013, 04:05:32 PM
So are the fans. The last 3 games totaled 99,000 in attendance, the lowest in 6 years
If any of them had half a brain cell they were there to see McCutchen and Marte. Those two guys are a treat to watch.
9-14 record
yeah
I don't just want Amaro fired. I want him fired from a cannon.
they lost 3 in a row to the pirates with hamels halladay lee pitching
they are not good at playing baseball. is everyone on board with this?
QuoteBenRevere9
NYC the big apple!!
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@BenRevere9 don't even know if you could hit a big apple right now
ha
Kendrick having a strong game tonight. Howard actually hit a home run. Phils up 4-0 in the 7th.
Can't wait to see how the bullpen blows this one...
Cholly's going to let Kendrick take the mound in the 9th to try to get the shutout.
Just did some figuring: Since the first outing of the season (and technically that was one bad inning), Kendrick has given up four earned runs in 28 innings: a 1.33 ERA over four outings.
wait for him to have 1 mediocre game the meatheads will be in here frothing at the mouth about how bad he is
Kendrick has been ridiculous. I watched the replay after the draft and the Mets had no clue against him. Granted it's the Mets, but still... wow.
The saddest part about this team is starting pitching has been good. Usually when starting pitching is good the rest of your team falls into place. Not with these clowns.
Attendance is down, which is good and bad. Good because fans are smart enough to realize managements appeal to fans for one final WS is falling short, management should respond by making changes. Bad because they'll have less money to spend. They need to be Marlin type sellers at the deadline. Utley/Rollins/Lee/Halladay/Ruiz can still get you decent prospects. They all have either WS or playoff experience. It would suck not seeing Utley/Rollins/Ruiz finish their careers as Phils but that's modern baseball.
My concern is this team is going to get hot and reel off a classic 15 out of 20 win streak before the all star break and Smug will use it as an excuse not to make the moves they're going to need to make.
I can see that happening. He's really good at selling low and buying high and not knowing the market.
Dom Brown hit a homer today. Yaaaaay
Victory! Two in a row!
Hamels... Halladay... Lee - Lose
Kendrick... Pettibone - Win
Go figure.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 27, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
Hamels... Halladay... Lee - Lose
Kendrick... Pettibone - Win
Go figure.
difference btwn playing a good team and a terrible team
pitching matchups matter also....dillon gee is not good
the pirates are not a good team
and lol @ this...hes not joking
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Victory! Two in a row!
You mean he's pleased when his team wins?
How weird is that??
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
You mean he's pleased when his team wins?
How weird is that??
you cheered the flyers win last night didnt you
monster choooooooooch call in new shea
Hamels being very un-ace like again.
$147m bucks....pitch like a farging ace, Heidi
The goat Don Cheadle on air now with that dope Murphy
his fastball has some juice today....my biggest problem with heidi is that he doesnt have a great out pitch....his change is very good but imo its overrated...if you get a 150 mil you better be beastin hitters and he doesnt do that
take the mets jersey off cheadle
cheadle "i try to root for everybody"
respect forever lost
I think his change is dynamic enough to be a stud out pitch. His location has been off this year and I hate fact that everyone wants to throw a cutter nowadays. His curveball is leaving much to be desired too - he's left it up too much.
Hamels curve is better when he waits til later in the game to start using it.
His change up is pretty dirty and lol at IGY trying to downplay it. If that were a Nats pitcher with Hamels change up, he'd be calling it the best change up maybe ever, definitely top 5.
Michael Young has 19 straight singles? He's hitting over .350.
Any beefs, haters?
three two-out walks.....definitely ace material
Ace McAdoptanotherkid is throwing well today.
This ump's zone is huge and yet here's Heidi walking everyone
Galvis!
Yard work.
Calgary Flames jersey in left field
juice galvis ftw
0-2 on Wright
And he walks him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 02:10:17 PM
Michael Young has 19 straight singles? He's hitting over .350.
Any beefs, haters?
yes i have a problem with an old slow person doing nothing but slapping singles into the hole. michael young hitting singles doesnt do anything for anybody. its empty stats. oh look hes on first for domonic brown and john mayberry. hooray.
he needs to drive the ball. he has 4 extra base hits. those are numbers for ben revere, not michael young. him on first (keep in mind hes slow) for low percentage hitters is a waste. thats why his war is a tremendous 0.4. hes also grounded into 6 double plays.
but his average is .350! hes good!
plus his 19 singles are offset by the 19 ground balls he didnt get to that ended up as singles for the other team
Lol you two are hilarious.
if not for steroids phillies are losing this game
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
plus his 19 singles are offset by the 19 ground balls he didnt get to that ended up as singles for the other team
and the 19 future double plays hell hit into
hes basically juan pierre without speed. hes got his (ill use a wheels term to make everyone understand) magic wand and hes just placing the ball where the fielders arent. sometimes he times it right, sometimes he doesnt. right now hes timing it right. a split second off on that and its a groundout or a double play.
again in the least a gm who thinks likes its 1944 might fall for the trick and trade for him. so they could get something come july.
he probably should be hitting leadoff for this team
at this juncture absolutely...his average is not staying at .360 but if it balances at around .300 with plus .350 obp thats about as good as its gonna get.
youll need 2 hits to score him but its better than what they have right now. young should be hitting 8th if not. keep in mind adrian beltre, hitting 150 points lower, has the same amount of total bases as he does.
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 02:56:23 PM
youll need 2 hits to score him but its better than what they have right now.
yup....thats why i made sure i said "this team"
six walks in six innings and one run....i love the mets
jonathan neise is at 100 pitches opening the 7th inning and AAA blindly swings at the first pitch
thats charlie...they as a team have been doing things like that for years
even including nix' single first three batters of this inning saw a total of five pitches.....jimmy has seen 12 (and counting)
That was a great ab from Jimmy
Now Howard will come up as a ph to end the inning with a k
Just like that its 4-1
good lord terry collins is retarded
if theres one thing the phillies can do its hit bad right handed middle relievers
Motherfargin Choke!!
Great AB by Jimmy and Choke really smoked that one. Sweetest sound in the game is when he squares one up.
Grit!
what if i told you before the season started that choke would be hitting .280 at the end of april and have three less home runs than evan gattis
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2013, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
You mean he's pleased when his team wins?
How weird is that??
you cheered the flyers win last night didnt you
Not even a little bit. Read the Flyers thread for my opinion on that.
laynce nix stays in the game for defense
i repeat....laynce nix stays in the game for DEFENSE
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 03:20:44 PM
laynce nix stays in the game for defense
i repeat....laynce nix stays in the game for DEFENSE
nix and choke in
galvis out
I wish they would've kept Nate Schierholtz.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2013, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 03:20:44 PM
laynce nix stays in the game for defense
i repeat....laynce nix stays in the game for DEFENSE
nix and choke in
galvis out
im not sure whats wrong with revere but surely even him crippled is better than nix healthy
lolol what was HOF doing there
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
I wish they would've kept Nate Schierholtz.
is this a twitter parody account of the real j?
david murphy oh for the series
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
I wish they would've kept Nate Schierholtz.
is this a twitter parody account of the real j?
It's me. Schierholtz is a good role player and a good defensive guy.
lol at HOF starting his slide around the coaches box and barely making it to the plate
Bringing in the lefty for Nix down 5-1 instead of using him to prevent Howard from coming up in a 1-1 game. Collins is awesome
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
lol at HOF starting his slide around the coaches box and barely making it to the plate
ha...was just saying that....he is such a goof
Looks like he's going high top fade too
mets had 14 hits in the series
can they play the mets in the world series
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
can they play the mets in the world series
im going to trashy queens for a series in july....how much you wanna bet the phil lose a minimum 2 of 3
since youre there theyll probably get swept
nothing good ever happens to you, poor baby
at least you acknowledge my hardships.....no one else even notices
Braves stumbling big time, 3-8 since that hot 12-1 start. Nats cooled off as well. Miracle the bums are only 4 out tonight.
next 6 vs injins and florida before going out west
LETS DO THIS. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TEAM
Quote from: MDS on April 28, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
next 6 vs injins and florida before going out west
LETS DO THIS. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TEAM
nope...you out
sweeping the mets really brings out the homers dont it
5-12 against teams with winning records with no series wins
7-2 against the mets and marlins with three series wins
its gonna be fun when they go 5-1 this week and the homers start making plans for october
people so soon forget that going into the mets series they had lost three in a row to pittsburgh...im pretty sure they are the same team now as they were last thursday afternoon...which is give or take a game or three a .500 squad
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees--phillies-next-in-line-for-dodgers-esque-tv-deal-032505935.html
smart leak by the phillies/mlb on this...will just drive up the csn price
theres no way the phillies leave csn for anything other than their own network...which will be partially owned by comcast.
Would it rid us of McCarthy and Wheels?
they work for the phillies...so no. it would rid you of that terrible theme music and ricky bottalico.
and its not happening. the phillies are super conservative and going to fox is a massive distribution risk. im sure comcast is going to be eager to add the competition to its lineup in the town that it runs.
the sixers would be the only ones who would take that leap.
Shouldn't Wheels be dying or retiring soon?
he aint goin nowhere. hes gonna die in the booth like harry. problem is he didnt crush booze cigs and Hoyda back in the day so hes as healthy as a clam.
good thing is i havent listened to one second of him all year and dont plan to. i get both announcers for every game never ever do i pick tmac and wheels.
When I watch on the computer, I usually set it for LA and Franzke.
When I put it through the PS3, I go between the two sets of TV announcers. Probably 2/3 other teams, depending on who it is.
thats what you call a hanging breaking ball
Brutal
pinball machine halladay is back
I'm melting, melting, melting, meeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllltttttttttttttiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggggggggggg!
Helluva start, Roy.
Wonder if he will blame Ruiz like he did with the other catchers?
holy shtein delmon young
My new favorite Phillie.
Nice job Delmon.
Amaro high fives himself and fist pumps for a great signing
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2013, 07:29:31 PM
Helluva start, Roy.
Wonder if he will blame Ruiz like he did with the other catchers?
:-D
Quote from: SD on March 31, 2013, 07:25:12 AM
86 wins. No playoffs. Doc doesn't make it to the All Star Break.
all in.
Let me think about that as TMac just reminded us that Doc has "settled in". Man, shtein.
Bring back the Mets!
He's settled in allright.
And Delmon is plunked...on purpose I bet.
8-1...lets have a brawl.
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaahhaha
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
Jesus farging Christ
I mean you have to be a real special kind of zesty to give up five farging two run homers.
14-2
Five two run homers, two run single and two solo homers.
Good job, Amaro.
Rube was on 97.5 with Missanelli earlier. Two points he made:
1. It's not his fault or the coaches' fault that the IronPig relievers turn into garbage when they get to the majors. It's the players that suck
2. That attendance at CBP that's dropped several thousand from the last few years? It's because Philly fans are frontrunners and they'll come back when the team is hot again
lol no way, really?
Mayor McSmug manages to out smarm himself daily, the prick.
http://www.csnphilly.com/phillies/halladay-allows-eight-runs-indians-clobber-phillies
jesus read this post game comments.
oh well, its fine...everything was hit hard...sometimes that happens
delusional group managed by a delusional old hick
people should focus their anger on why they didnt win a world series seasons 2009-2011 and stop worrying about this bunch of garbage....i took a lot of heat for it but i said back then even right after 2008 that winning an anti climatic rain delayed world series against tampa bay would not cut it...this group had to win a second ring....they didnt do and now you see the results...
fans getting all upset over laynce nix HOF and a bunch of over the hill pieces of shtein...gimme a break
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 01, 2013, 12:57:16 AM
2. That attendance at CBP that's dropped several thousand from the last few years? It's because Philly fans are frontrunners and they'll come back when the team is hot again
DOUCHE BAG!
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2013, 07:59:38 AM
people should focus their anger on why they didnt win a world series seasons 2009-2011 and stop worrying about this bunch of garbage....i took a lot of heat for it but i said back then even right after 2008 that winning an anti climatic rain delayed world series against tampa bay would not cut it...this group had to win a second ring....they didnt do and now you see the results...
fans getting all upset over laynce nix HOF and a bunch of over the hill pieces of shtein...gimme a break
I could not agree with you more. That group had to win one more. Had it been beating the Yankees, which would have been pure nirvana or the next two years, it would have made up for the years of hell and frustration. 80 was great, 83 was cool but very very disappointing, 93 was fun, 08 awesome but damnit there is no excuse for not winning one more. 2011 and the 102 wins crock of shtein will linger for a long time.
Only a miserable farg would bitch about his team winning a World Championship.
Last night the Indians long balled the shtein out of them.
Tonight? Infield singling like crazy.
4-0.
Depressing.
laynce griffey jr
Yeah that was sweet.
Jimmy's error was tough.
I'm beginning to hate Ben Revere.
yeah he is one of the worst starting players in all of baseball...hes like a second baseman from the 70's except hes an outfielder in 2013
Sonofabitch! You have helped jogged my memory. I was trying to remember who he reminded of hitting wise - Rafael farging Belliard.
He ain't from the 70s but he's who I was thinking of.
steve jeltz
Jose Lind!!
Quote@RoobCSN: Phils have had runners on 1st and 2nd four straight innings -- twice with 0 outs -- and haven't scored. 2-for-17 with runners on base.
chico lind had some pretty nice years....of course ill always remember him for being pulled over naked in his car jerking off all over the steering wheel
Bwahaha really? Never heard that.
Who was that Philly dude who played for the Rockets and Wolves who got caught doing that and then committed suicide by train?
Eddie Griffin
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 01, 2013, 09:30:32 PM
Quote@RoobCSN: Phils have had runners on 1st and 2nd four straight innings -- twice with 0 outs -- and haven't scored. 2-for-17 with runners on base.
Oh my farging God! You almost have to try and be that bad.
lee sort of kind of called them out a night where he played batting practice with the injuns
please disband this team
lee also did an interview with the cleveland station where the whole time he bitched about not getting a start in the 2007 al championship series.....hes a douche
morganti asked a funny/sad question today on the morning show...
name one phillie position player who you know will be good in two years
marlins this weekend.....put a % chance on the phils winning 3 of 4
kendrick - sanabia
pettibone - nolasco
hamels - fernandez
halladay - slowey
Phillies have the worst OF in the whole farging league.
Ruben take a bow you farging prick
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2013, 02:23:39 PM
they dont have a single outfielder who should be in the major leagues....think about that
five players have more rbi than HOF - revere - nix and AAAberry combined
michael young has grounded into 7 double plays. he has 4 extra base hits.
delmon young, after dhing in 1 game, was too hurt to play the outfield the next day.
this team is just...wow. i knew it was gonna be bad but good god
ive got more!
choke has walked 3 times this year. 3. thats less than freddy galvis and erik kratz. he bb/pa ratio is 0.29, which is 10th lowest in baseball.
as a team, they have 1 player with a +.350 obp. his name is michael young.
they have won 5 games against teams not called the mets or marlins
they have 2 players (utley and revere) who dont have a negative defensive war
and MORE...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 02:10:17 PM
Michael Young has 19 straight singles? He's hitting over .350.
Any beefs, haters?
Hahaha. Beefs.
THEY BEAT THE MARLINS!
Dom Brown went 3/4 with another HR. He's at .266 now and 4 homers.
If he can hit .265 for the season and get 15-18 HR, I'd say that's an extremely successful first full season for him. But is he ever going to steal a base? Wasn't he supposed to be a guy with 15-20 steal potential?
Is that true? He has not stolen a base yet this season? I thought the same thing that he was going to get his share of stolen bases.
Choke trying to lug out a triple has got to be the funniest thing on earth.
four thousand ops for choke tonight
Dom going yard on back to back nights. Very encouraging to see. Please keep this up, Dominic.
clutch pitch there and perfectly set up with the fastball right before it....no chnce kearns thought odb would go offspeed in that spot and i dont blame him
diaz shows you the difference bwtn a team like miami and a team that has something to play for....3-2 bases juiced and odb comes way inside...instead of keeping his thigh out a little diaz jumps out of the way of the pitch
umpire gifts all inning for odb
Someone was listening to the Miami broadcast team.
Seriously, how broken up are you when they win? I know your scrawny Texas chihuahua sidekick beats himself off into oblivion whenever they lose, but tell us, do you cry into your Nationals team pillowcase when the Phils win?
i really dont care about this team....ill be interested when they clean house and start over...right now its a lethal combination of depression/boredom watching them...the only excitement comes from laughing at south jersey homers like you jerking off over them
I scoreboard watched with great anticipation at Minute Maid tonight!
Nats and Braves lose. Phils win! (Where the Nats homers at?!)
Took a customer to see the Tigers - Lastros tonight. He's from Detroit and I was ( hard ticket to get!! Not really) able to get four seats seven rows from the field. Surprisingly it was a good game.
What was tonight's attendance in Houston? My buddy does the same thing at Chase Field in Phoenix. Walk up 5 minutes before first pitch and he's 10 feet from home plate.
CBP looking like Doyer Stadium of late. Lot of late arrivals and lots of early departures.
lol @ rome trying to contain his excitement
they have 5 wins not over miami and the mets and its may 4
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2013, 09:54:14 PM
i really dont care about this team
Oh really? I would have never guessed that especially considering how much time you spend entertaining us with your in-depth analyses of their performance.
Quote from: MDS on May 04, 2013, 03:14:42 AM
lol @ rome trying to contain his excitement
they have 5 wins not over miami and the mets and its may 4
When they win I enjoy it. When they lose I don't. It's a simple formula, dipshtein.
when they win i dont care and when they lose i dont care.....even more simple
lol.
I get mad when they win and I'm happy when they lose. They suck and the worse they play, the more inclined they are to blow it up and start over. Plus I got a couple hoagies/cheesesteaks on the line here.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
when they win i dont care and when they lose i dont care.....even more simple
then why bore us with your thoughts on the matter?
theres a difference btwn not caring about the result of the game and not talking about the games....i still dropped over 200 bucks on the package (altho to be honest i watch a lot of other games too) and i still watch 90% of the games...i just dont care if they win or not cause i know they arent going anywhere and they arent bad enough to get a top draft pick....they are just another in a long line of philly teams stuck in purgatory
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
theres a difference btwn not caring about the result of the game and not talking about the games....i still dropped over 200 bucks on the package (altho to be honest i watch a lot of other games too) and i still watch 90% of the games...i just dont care if they win or not cause i know they arent going anywhere and they arent bad enough to get a top draft pick....they are just another in a long line of philly teams stuck in purgatory
The nice thing about the computer package is that you can always get both sets of TV announcers, and often both sets of radio announcers synced with the picture... I often just find good games and cut in and out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
theres a difference btwn not caring about the result of the game and not talking about the games....i still dropped over 200 bucks on the package (altho to be honest i watch a lot of other games too) and i still watch 90% of the games...i just dont care if they win or not cause i know they arent going anywhere and they arent bad enough to get a top draft pick....they are just another in a long line of philly teams stuck in purgatory
they're not a good baseball team right now. the outfield is atrocious, the bench is non-existent and "aces" have been putrid. we get that. there's not a single person here who doesn't acknowledge it either. there's really no need to be reminded of it on page after page of this thread, especially when they're winning.
Todd's just sexually frustrated, so he takes it out on :CF and the Phillies.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 04, 2013, 02:19:22 AM
What was tonight's attendance in Houston? My buddy does the same thing at Chase Field in Phoenix. Walk up 5 minutes before first pitch and he's 10 feet from home plate.
CBP looking like Doyer Stadium of late. Lot of late arrivals and lots of early departures.
I'm not sure of the announced attendance but there couldn't have been more than 7,000 there.
Todd and igy are the Emo phillies fans. It's cool to pretend to hate the team and say they don't care.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 04, 2013, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
theres a difference btwn not caring about the result of the game and not talking about the games....i still dropped over 200 bucks on the package (altho to be honest i watch a lot of other games too) and i still watch 90% of the games...i just dont care if they win or not cause i know they arent going anywhere and they arent bad enough to get a top draft pick....they are just another in a long line of philly teams stuck in purgatory
The nice thing about the computer package is that you can always get both sets of TV announcers, and often both sets of radio announcers synced with the picture... I often just find good games and cut in and out.
i got the computer package one year but i couldnt stand it...it was good for travel but i like to be able to go to any one of my tv's at any time and be able to hit the power button and have the games right there right away without having to move a laptop around and going to a website and whatever other hoops you have to jump thru to get your computer to come out of your tv
when you watch thru your computer how do you switch to other games....do you have to use your mouse or keypad and do it on the computer or once its thru your tv you use your tv remote like you would any other time?
Quote from: Rome on May 04, 2013, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
theres a difference btwn not caring about the result of the game and not talking about the games....i still dropped over 200 bucks on the package (altho to be honest i watch a lot of other games too) and i still watch 90% of the games...i just dont care if they win or not cause i know they arent going anywhere and they arent bad enough to get a top draft pick....they are just another in a long line of philly teams stuck in purgatory
they're not a good baseball team right now. the outfield is atrocious, the bench is non-existent and "aces" have been putrid. we get that. there's not a single person here who doesn't acknowledge it either. there's really no need to be reminded of it on page after page of this thread, especially when they're winning.
but they arent winning...they are under .500 with by far the easiest schedule in the majors
If you'd drop $70 on a bluray player (or had you upgraded to a smart tv) you can get the MLBTV app. Buy the package through them instead of your cable provider and get all the same perks of watching online without actually watching on your laptop.
i have a blue ray player....but if im watching the mlb package thru that i cant watch my other cable channels with out having to change the input on the tv can i...like would i be able to switch directly from a mlb game to nbc or espn?...i know now if im watching a movie or netflix on my blue ray i have to switch inputs...would it not the same with a baseball game?
I stream the mlbtv through my Xbox. The quality is pretty much the same as watching it on TV now. You just use the controller to go back and forth with games.
but what about if i wanna watch the phillies on the package and the flyers on another channel....can i just hit a last channel button to do this like i do now on my tv
i feel like romey will yell at me for saying this but polly just got a clean steal off heidi
racists booing choke like crazy tonight....out of nowhere
This never ceases to amaze me...
Utley strikes out - nary a peep from the crowd
Choke strikes out - boos erupt from the mouth breathers
Granted Choke looked at a crushable fastball and struck out on an off speed junker but still
GRIT has turned over on the same breaking ball 20 times this year and grounded it weakly to second with a man on...but because its not a strikeout and hes a GRITty white dood everything is aok
choke annoys the farg out of me or i wouldnt have named him choke but those classic utley grounders are just as bad imo
how does aumont have 17 h/bb in 8 ip but only a 3.10 era
i am absolutely devastated by this loss
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
how does aumont have 17 h/bb in 8 ip but only a 3.10 era
When I was at a game a couple weeks ago he had two losses and a 0.00 ERA.
he had a another walk tonight and no runs
now 18 h/bb in 9 ip and a 2.89 era
choke is up to 6 walks!
p.s. only igy and i get the bigger picture in all of this. you guys are still suck in this endless win YES lose NO stage. as if it any of it matters. they are going nowhere and dont have any good young players to follow. its frankly boring being a phillies fan now. theres nothing interesting to even talk about.
oh look michael young grounded into a double play. phil aumont gave up a homer. cole hamels went 7 innings and gave up 2 runs. ??? ok.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
but what about if i wanna watch the phillies on the package and the flyers on another channel....can i just hit a last channel button to do this like i do now on my tv
Sort of. If your cable is set to input x and bluray is set to input y, then leave your cable box powered on and set to whatever channel you want to watch and switch inputs back and forth.
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2013, 03:35:42 AM
choke is up to 6 walks!
p.s. only igy and i get the bigger picture in all of this. you guys are still suck in this endless win YES lose NO stage. as if it any of it matters. they are going nowhere and dont have any good young players to follow. its frankly boring being a phillies fan now. theres nothing interesting to even talk about.
oh look michael young grounded into a double play. phil aumont gave up a homer. cole hamels went 7 innings and gave up 2 runs. ??? ok.
why don't you and igy make your own Phillies thread then? You pollute this thread with this type of nonsense. The bigger picture is THIS IS A SPORTS MESSAGE BOARD AND PHILLIES FANS ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEIR TEAM. I have a present for you.
I thought it was cute how he says there's nothing to talk about but has probably posted in this thread more than anyone not named Havas.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 05, 2013, 06:19:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 04, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
but what about if i wanna watch the phillies on the package and the flyers on another channel....can i just hit a last channel button to do this like i do now on my tv
Sort of. If your cable is set to input x and bluray is set to input y, then leave your cable box powered on and set to whatever channel you want to watch and switch inputs back and forth.
yeah thats what i thought...i just want to have the mlb package at my fingertips and on every tv in my house and be able to watch it while seamlessly being able to switch to other none mlb package channels via last channel button or simply by putting in the station number
easy why is the phillies game at 230 today?
in case the flyers had the noon start today?
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 04, 2013, 05:10:57 PM
I stream the mlbtv through my Xbox. The quality is pretty much the same as watching it on TV now. You just use the controller to go back and forth with games.
I use Apple TV. Works great.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 09:15:38 AM
easy why is the phillies game at 230 today?
in case the flyers had the noon start today?
Seems like all of the parks today are starting at weird times. Something to do with Cinqo De Mayo celebrations? Maybe mothers day stuff even though it's next sunday?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 09:15:38 AM
easy why is the phillies game at 230 today?
in case the flyers had the noon start today?
Broad St run this morning
from now on im only posting positive things about the bestest baseball team in all the lands
lets go boys! win today and accomplish a victory, for it is what i hope occurs!
Jimmy's off today.
I'm curious to see how Halladay fares after his shelling against Cleveland...mainly his pitch selection and location.
Don't bitch if they lose though you should just expect it and not be mad at all
True. I shouldn't even watch.
Well Halladay has started swimmingly...
Two walks and a hit batter
11 balls and 6 strikes
Bases loaded one out
Bullpen up! Hahahah Jesus farging Christ.
Walk
Walk
Hit batter
Double
Walk
Marlins have five goddamn runs already. That is a week worth for those iceholes.
5-0
Doc is dead. Take him out back and old yeller his ass.
The good news is that's 20 mil freed up next year
The bet I made with a buddy on Doc not averaging more than 5 2/3 per start is looking better and better every time he takes the bump.
Wowowow.
Echevarria just unloaded again. 3R triple in the first and now a grand slam!
farging disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
Put his ass on the goddamn DL and be done with it
in a week where they faced the injuns and marlins the phillies went 2-4
lol from rube on twitter: Halladay faced 37 batters in his last two starts. 17 of them scored
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2013, 03:27:25 PM
lol from rube on twitter: Halladay faced 37 batters in his last two starts. 17 of them scored
Just showed junior the score. "What the hell has happened to your team?" followed by "You still got the Flyers! Oh, wait a second....". Little prick can get his own ride to the beach.
This stat is just amazing. I can' think of a pitcher in recent memory that has fallen this hard.
Why am I still watching this?
Three hits by this team in the last 15 innings and zero runs scored in 20 innings.
Against the Marlins. The farging shteinbag minor league marlins who employ about every washed up Phillie known to man.
Roy Halladay, 2014 Marlin
Didn't get home until 4pm - by then it was too late to bother with the Phils. NHL playoffs all the way.
And I guess those few decent starts in a row by Halladay were a mirage. I was hoping against hope it might at least be the beginning of finding a new equilibrium, but he's back to the depths. If he's not completely done, he's not finding his way back anytime soon, and not with the Phils. Probably should have had the shoulder surgery last year, because he's probably going to get it this year at some point.
is he even a type a free agent anymore
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 05, 2013, 03:22:25 PM
The bet I made with a buddy on Doc not averaging more than 5 2/3 per start is looking better and better every time he takes the bump.
yep good call by you....i thought that was one youd lose....the old man is way worse than even i thought hed be
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 05, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
NHL playoffs all the way.
this kind of hater talk is only allowed in the other thread
until the end of may they have 23 games--all but 5 against good teams. the 5? 2 vs injuns, 3 at miami...p.s. they went 2-4 against those teams this week
so this stretch here could be extraordinarily ugly. like 1 win per week ugly.
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2013, 05:33:30 PM
until the end of may they have 23 games--all but 5 against good teams. the 5? 2 vs injuns, 3 at miami...p.s. they went 2-4 against those teams this week
so this stretch here could be extraordinarily ugly. like 1 win per week ugly.
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21593.0
Doc's downfall has been staggering. I mean just unfathomable.
Shut him down.
Quote from: Rome on May 05, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
I mean just unfathomable.
it was either unfathomable or everyone knew it was going to happen
Quote@ChrisBranchTNJ: Ruben: DL stint likely for Doc. Said first Roy told team of shoulder issues today. Roy said he'd been feeling it since after start vs. PIT
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 05, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
I mean just unfathomable.
it was either unfathomable or everyone knew it was going to happen
I should have said sudden & dramatic but to go from being absolutely dominant to unable to get anyone out is shocking.
lol what an irresponsible douche
his shoulder is shot and he doesnt tell anyone...2 starts and 500 runs later he now needs a dl stint
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2013, 06:17:54 PM
lol what an irresponsible douche
his shoulder is shot and he doesnt tell anyone...2 starts and 500 runs later he now needs a dl stint
lol...now you are trying to hard....this isnt september in the middle of a pennant race....its may on a ship thats sinking....he deserves the right to be stubborn and try and fight thru something after the career hes had
also dont discount the fact that there might not even be an injury....could be a guy thats simply just done but cant confront the fact and needs to mask it with a shoulder issue
i have a horrible feeling he's actually done. you don't come back from tommy john at 36. so sad.
wait is it really tommy john?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2013, 06:17:54 PM
lol what an irresponsible douche
his shoulder is shot and he doesnt tell anyone...2 starts and 500 runs later he now needs a dl stint
lol...now you are trying to hard....this isnt september in the middle of a pennant race....its may on a ship thats sinking....he deserves the right to be stubborn and try and fight thru something after the career hes had
also dont discount the fact that there might not even be an injury....could be a guy thats simply just done but cant confront the fact and needs to mask it with a shoulder issue
no he doesnt....if hes not healthy he needs to tell someone. meathead athletes trotting out there to "gut it out" worked in 1971 when no one knew any better.
he wasnt right he shouldnt have pitched. if he just sucks then making up a shoulder injury is even sadder. and lets not forgot 2 days ago he went after mitch, then turns around and gives up 9 runs to a minor league team
yeah dont give roy halladay a pass on thinking he could pitch thru an injury because they could have had tyler cloyd make a start or two and turn the season around
gotta love tough guy sports fans
adam morgan or jesse biddle please
i'm just assuming it's a catastrophic problem. He was unhittable two years ago and now he gets smacked around by guys who should be selling hats off the back of a pickup truck instead of playing in the majors.
he says its a shouldder so either way its not tommy john....it certainly could be catastrophic and im sure it a legit injury but it also wouldnt shock me if hes just simply done...hes old as shtein and weve seen time and time again with hard throwers that when it goes it goes quick
a stat jason stark threw out there that may go against the injury theory?
"In the last calendar year Halladay has the highest ERA (5.76) of any active pitcher who has thrown as many IP as he has (148.1) in that span"
did he hurt his shoulder last may?
What is just as concerning is his stamina. Ever since that game at Wrigley where he looked one step from death's door he looks spent after 3 or 4 innings. I'm sure if he's injured it may have an affect on his stamina but his overall presence on the mound is as if he is defeated from pitch one.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
wait is it really tommy john?
Shoulder wouldn't be Tommy John. Probably rotator cuff or labrum. Of course, anything at 35 (36 in a week) is bad.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
a stat jason stark threw out there that may go against the injury theory?
"In the last calendar year Halladay has the highest ERA (5.76) of any active pitcher who has thrown as many IP as he has (148.1) in that span"
did he hurt his shoulder last may?
IIRC, he was on the DL last season with discomfort. I was actually surprised that, when he still wasn't effective when he came back, that surgery wasn't at least considered.
... so the answer is likely yes.
Edit: Also, I think I remember him having problems getting loose even in spring training 2012.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 05, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
a stat jason stark threw out there that may go against the injury theory?
"In the last calendar year Halladay has the highest ERA (5.76) of any active pitcher who has thrown as many IP as he has (148.1) in that span"
did he hurt his shoulder last may?
IIRC, he was on the DL last season with discomfort. I was actually surprised that, when he still wasn't effective when he came back, that surgery wasn't at least considered.
... so the answer is likely yes.
actually the answer is 100% no....just wondering if any homers would take the bait....you win
Just checked: 1-2, 5.73 during Spring Training 2012. Was actually pretty good in April, though (3-2, 1.95). So who knows.
But here (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120924&content_id=38944134&c_id=mlb) is an article that said that Halladay mentioned having shoulder tightness as early as 2012 spring training.
hes had way to many good starts since spring 2012 for it to have happened then...
the question is not whether it goes back to last season....we know it doesnt...the question is whether he is truly hurt even right now.....i suspect he is...but i dont trust anything this franchise puts out
He deserves some benefit of trying to fight through it. But once he knew it was not doable then he needs to pull the plug.
If I were a teammate and this guy was getting shelled time after time I'd be pissed.
Go get fixed. If he would've addressed it earlier then maybe he comes back sooner and doesn't get lit like a farging sparkler.
the bigger question is 1. can he get back to being decent so they can trade him AND 2. if not is he still a type a free agent
my guess is no and no meaning they get nothing for him
thats not a question....they were never getting anything for him...i mean a single A questionmark maybe....but that was the ceiling
No and no.
that answer brings me back to last year when certain people were clamoring for them to blow it up and others were burying their heads in the sand saying "wait until utley and howard get back" over and over again
well...look at where we're at now homers.
Even if it was blown up the man doing it sucks.
So I take no solace either way.
thats as far as a "i was wrong" as a dude from texas will go....so let me bask in it
You talkin about yourself?
neener neener we said blow it up last year haha homers!!111!
Oh, goodie... we're back to this shtein again.
if my math is correct
kendrick...pettibone....lannan 9-3
halladay.....heidi......phifer....5-15
Quote from: Rome on May 05, 2013, 10:52:22 PM
Oh, goodie... we're back to this shtein again.
i hope they win tomorrow!
Yuniesky Betancourt .277 7HR 22RBI
Cut by Rube
if they had him they could easily win the world series
Quote from: Chameleon on April 18, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
Jimmy back in the leadoff spot and Galvis hitting 2nd in LF tonight
Lannan on the DL
All is well in the world.
Seriously though, fire amaro, fire Charlie. Let's be sellers not buyers, pawn off all assets of value for young cheap talent. Success doesn't mean shtein if you can't back it up. The Phillies won the lottery and now are in position where it's time to declare bankruptcy. This shouldn't be a surprise if you have had any perspective at all over the past 5 years. This ship was sinking before it won the world series.
These words really can't be said enough in my opinion. SO.....
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The streak begins tonight. At least six in a row coming. Get the brooms out!
Bumgarner, Lincecum (they may actually beat him if KK throws a shutout) & Zito.
At Arizona they'll see Corbin who is 4-0 on Thursday.
Perfect medicine for a sinking ship.
Michael Young 2R double.
MDS fires a beer can at the wall in disgust.
Missed called third on Pence
Then he homers.
Nice shutdown inning, Cliff
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2013, 10:48:36 PM
Michael Young 2R double.
MDS fires a beer can at the wall in disgust.
do you think that hit is the spark the leads them to a world series title?
Clifford is a good hitter
Another Young double...Howard moves him over and then Delmon sac fly
And a HOF blast!
Another brutal defensive play by Choke.
Catch the ball, meat.
Damn...Brown smashed that ball. It's his only hit of the night but he made it count
That's 6 on the year now. Keep it up kid
nutjob's lost at least 4 saves this year thanks to insurance runs in the 9th
Nice game from Mike Young too, even though he hit into his daily DP
Nice start.
3-0 Phils. It's like they realized somewhere over Utah on the plane out that hitting wins ballgames.
Tyler Cloyd taking Halladays turn in the rotation.
Another QS from Kyle
Can someone get Ruiz some more adderall or a substitue?
His BA and OBP are disgusting.
Obama takes Papelbon's guns and the Phillies take his save opportunities...Choke goes deep to cf to make it 6-2
The streak is now two in a row!
Soooo....Kyle Kendrick is like...a real pitcher.
Son of a bitch, no Giants TV in Hawaii due to blackout rules. Giants, Doyers, Mariners, Padres, A's all consider Hawaii as part of their TV market. farging ridiculous. Can't even watch on mlb.com Eat my balls Bud Selig!
wowa baby lets get this world series express up and running
chooo chooooooooooooooooooo
If the Phils win today, it'll be their first sweep at San Fran since May 1984
Doc's gonna discuss the shoulder test results at 2:00
Doc has a bone spur and increased fraying of the labrum from last year. Gonna have surgery sometime soon to get it cleaned up, and doctors think it'll "turn the clock back 2 or 3 years". No timetable for a return but he was told approximately 3 months
That would explain the sudden and dramatic falloff a bit.
so best case scenario he comes back in mid september? just in time for the playoff run!
yeah but he will be 33 or 34 instead of 36
These fargers just tied it up! 3-3 in SF! Against Romo of all people.
Quote from: MDS on May 08, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
so best case scenario he comes back in mid september? just in time for the playoff run!
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 08, 2013, 03:46:23 PM
yeah but he will be 33 or 34 instead of 36
So he's like a Dominican player?
Jose Halladayez
Nice work with the ice skates Frandsen you fargwad.
CHOOCH!!!! Nice throw!
What the farg with Adams? shtein, he's sucking ass of late.
2/3 is fine
Win the series in Zona now.
If they had any chance at a playoff spot they had to sweep the Giants.
Did I post that right, Todd?
Utley is hitting well...Choke is doing pretty good...HOF is showing signs of what he projected to be...
Get jimmy hot and Ruiz up to .280ish and I thnk we see a playoff team
i dont even know what to do with these last two posts
Laugh. That's what you do with them. But do it for 2 different reasons.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 08, 2013, 06:46:58 PM
What the farg with Adams? shtein, he's sucking ass of late.
hes a 1000 years old and wasnt good last season
Quote from: MDS on May 09, 2013, 01:58:52 AM
i dont even know what to do with these last two posts
solid trolling of you on their part
Yeah that was a troll...MDS bit hard.
i dont buy it
Phillipe Aumont tweet talking about Nats Soriano
Quote@p_aumont17: You take ur jersey out ur pants on the field for what? All of you should be slapped.. #nats
nice baserunning by Prado
Now there is a smart baseball team. Bunt the guy home, catch the Phils off guard. Run scores. Smart ball Cholly, gotta play smart ball.
Horst is one lucky SOB. Prado swung at ball 4 then pops out with bases juiced.
I'm sick of that goddamn shift against Howard. That play where he is thrown out from RF is just farging aggravating.
Bats died again. fargers
get em tomorrow boys!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 10, 2013, 01:23:38 AM
I'm sick of that goddamn shift against Howard.
Taking a ball the other way every now and then might fix that.
Carlos Pena has 4 bunt singles to the left side of the infield this year.
Yeah he did it when I was there the other night. I turned to my customer and lamented the fact Choke never does it.
But then again...he's so slow that he'd still get gunned.
thats what i want ryan howard doing.....using his superior bat control to bunt down the third baseline so he can get on first and use his speed
jesus christ people are dumb sometimes
lol. It worked for Jake Taylor. And he had bad knees.
was there any kind of explanation why chuckles brought the infield in for 1 pitch to corbin then pushed them back. if he keeps them in that 1st run doesnt score.
i loved coles reaction. he didnt even know they moved back. so he gets the ground ball, then looks back, rolls his eye and screams. he knew right then and there that was it.
i guess uncle dumbass thought burrell or werth would start a rally the next inning or something?
Halladay apologizing to fans for his last two years
Quote@ryanlawrence21: Doc was told everyone likes him. His response: "If I paid $60 for tickets and the team was down 9-0 when I showed up, I wouldn't like me."
Transcript
http://blogs.delawareonline.com/philledin/2013/05/10/transcript-from-roys-unexpected-address/
The guy actually gets it.
Nice start.
Jimmy with a lead off homer.
Utley then smokes one to cf and gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple. Come on Grit use your brain.
Choke misses one and flies out deep RF.
Ian Kennedy is gonna get ripped tonight
And Cloyd is getting ripped.
Goldschmidt runs a stop sign and should be out by a mile...but bad throw to the plate.
2-1
Choke has missed two homers tonight by an inch
So much for the pitchers getting roped
Cloyd is throwing a one hitter
Thunderstorm in Houston means satellite no worky worky
So I missed Phillie killer Prado tie it up.
farging bullpen
Ahahahahahhahaha
The farging satellite comes back on right as the no hitting montero takes Adams deep
3-2 losing now
farging corksucking losers
The first inning didn't translate to the others. Both were hit hard early.
Choke is 0-13 with 8k's lately.
He just missed another homer by an inch. He really should have three bombs the last two nights.
He would have if it were still 2009.
j is definitely more entertaining than this wretched team
a dead seagull is more entertaining than these losers.
Apparently they're "Looking at" Carlos Zambrano lol
Choke has struck out in 7 of his last 9 ABs
Yay
Another awe inspiring offensive effort.
Gutless farging losers.
Stay in Arizona and don't disgrace the city any longer. Just stay there and go play in the farging Mexican league.
how many times have they been shutout this season
this will be number 6
and 23rd time with 3 runs or less....that more than hlaf their games
they can avoid if here fat delmon does his job
and amazingly the idiot comes thru
This only makes it more excruciating....get close.
Lets goooooo HOF!
heath belololl
Motherfarging HOF! Yes!
I'd bat his ass 4th and let choke take a seat awhile
They're not booing they're saying Boooell
bell has been horrendous for 2 years now
throwing low 90s fastballs right down the pipe. i honestly cant believe they hit him.
Wow, they managed to make sure they lose in the bottom of the 9th instead!
if they win this they win the world series, right?
Choke gets a hit. With RISP!
4-2 Phils
Wow, Howard actually came through.
even a blind nut can find a squirrel
Gained 2 games on everyone in the division the last two days and now they're 4 back of the Braves and 3 back of the Nats. Start the bandwagon, J
It's idling in the driveway right now.
MDS is not allowed on.
are mike adams' back spasms?
Yeah he can lay down in the back.
respective paces...
braves 92-70
nats 87-75
phils 74-88
MAAAyberry with a 2R double to take the lead
Nice
HOF doin yardwork. Solo shot to right
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
HOF doin yardwork. Solo shot to right
Can we start to get at least a little bit re-excited about him possibly developing into a real everyday player?
Or is that kind of optimism not allowed?
Something about Brown's homers was stuck in my mind, so I checked: Five of this year's seven homers have been solo shots, as have each the last four.
HR 1 - Solo shot vs. Wade Davis (Royals) 4/5/13
HR 2 - 3-run shot vs. Jeremy Hefner (Mets) 4/10/13
HR 3 - 3-run shot vs. Robert Carlson (Mets) 4/27/13
HR 4 - Solo shot vs. Alex Sanabia (Marlins) 5/2/13
HR 5 - Solo shot vs. Ricky Nolasco (Marlins) 5/3/13
HR 6 - Solo shot vs. Madison Bumgarner (Giants) 5/6/13
HR 7 - Solo shot vs. Scott Kazmir (Indians) 5/14/13
One thing: He does have more homers than Ryan Howard now.
EDIT: Other (good) thing: The Phils' record for the other games in which he hit homers this season is 5-1.
It's nice that he's developing. They sorely need it. I need to look it up but it seems he's doing well against lhp too.
Choke needs to take notes.
Coming into tonight's game:
Howard: .250/.286/.449/6 HR/22 RBI
Brown: .250/.301/.417/6 HR/18 RBI
And yes, Brown is hitting well (.281) vs. left-handers. Unfortunately, he's only batting .240 vs. right-handers. He's also got better power (.500 vs. .390) vs. lefties. He's actually got a better OBP (.303 vs. .294) against right-handers.
At this stage, if the Phils had a viable right-handed bat, it may be time to platoon Howard. His numbers vs. left-handers are atrocious.
wheels just said 'an out is what they want here more than anything'
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 14, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
wheels just said 'an out is what they want here more than anything'
farging hardcore analysis there. The fact a major league team employs him as a color analyst is disgusting. A complete buffoon.
How many times has he blown David Montgomery?
Mayberry 3, Indians 2.
Pettibone still pitching well. Showing he isn't lost in The Show.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 14, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
wheels just said 'an out is what they want here more than anything'
Yeah, but does (insert any player in the MLB here) just enjoy the game? Cholly, Wheels farging night of the living dead already.
Quote from: Munson on May 14, 2013, 09:00:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
HOF doin yardwork. Solo shot to right
Can we start to get at least a little bit re-excited about him possibly developing into a real everyday player?
Or is that kind of optimism not allowed?
No! What is wrong with you?
He is one of the few offensive bright spots that you actually want to watch righ tnow.
pettibone hasnt lost so hes awesome
go team go
They signed Zambrano. Fun
btw today's game will feature the Wiggles if your kids are into that shtein
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969820_10152858955790492_243807203_n.jpg)
That is some minor league shtein, right there.
At first I thought the guy in blue was Howie
heidi is at 75 pitches and hasnt even gotten thru the third inning yet
his contract will end well
3.5 back of your beloved braves and its mid may they havent even got hot yet howard will get going
after four IP
corey kluber 48 pitches
heidi hamels 91 pitches
does he have a win this year
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
does he have a win this year
Doesn't matter, does it?
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
does he have a win this year
1-5....but who cares...if he was 5-1 the phils would have the same record
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 15, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
does he have a win this year
Doesn't matter, does it?
not in the least but, its just funny that hes making 200 million a year and has won 1 time (even though wins are a purposeless stat for a pitcher)
where is that homer sunmo to suckle hamels and make excuses for him
How in the hell does Horst have a job in major league baseball?
Brown within inches of home run #8
Another stellar effort by the $147M "ace"
game is 5-3 with lots of time left and what options did roob give chuckles in a game like this
chad durbin and jeremy horst
not to let chuckles off the hook either....when is he going to move aumont ahead of durbin in the middle relief rotation.....what point is farging durbin serving at this stage?
Just saw The Wiggles are in CBP today. shtein, move one of them ahead of Durbin.
So Cole heading for 1-6. This guy is a damn roller coaster. So next season he'll be 6-1 on May 15.
This bullpen is just awful. No way around it. Just plain farging awful.
The fact that Amaro has let Durbin continue employment is a crime.
braves and nats lost....only 3.5 out
keep the faith boys, you will be rewarded
(http://tribwphl.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/card2.jpg?w=700&h=)
pettibone doin work
she's no sheena
sheena is now the 3rd most popular sheena according to google
shes behind easton and guerrero
even the homers are done
they actually had a really good win tonight
didnt wallow against the type of lefty that always kills them...put a rally together in the 8th and got the winning runs. but its all for a 77 win team and even rome sees that
Quote from: MDS on May 18, 2013, 03:08:58 AM
even rome sees that
disagree
btw thier version of mike trout combined with bryce harper dipped below .250 tonight
hof has a lower obp than jon mayberry
he might one day develop into an ok player (as in slightly above replacement level) but if hes was going to be GOOD youd know by now
these days they even get dominated by soft tossin right handers they used to pummel
was this the 30th shutout of the season or the 31st
The sixth - equaling last years total.
They've score like 40 runs less this year at this time compared to last. And this is with choke and grit!
Ruiz just pulled up lame
this just in: HOF is not a good fielder
Hey, Dom Brown finally stole a base
"5-4-3 double play"
Way to hit a ball down in the zone there Young.
its just insane how many double plays he hits into
you hear about it in texas but it doesnt fully register and cant be as bad as everyone says....then when you watch it day after day its truly amazing
the reds announcer just called michael young the toughest hitter in the phillies lineup
that actually might be true. then he grounded into a double play for the 11th time this year. he has 9 extra base hits.
brox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUCC-3e8U0
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2013, 03:20:09 PM
the reds announcer just called michael young the toughest hitter in the phillies lineup
He is tough on the fielders. Those double play throws can be tough to pull off sometimes.
This offense sucks so bad. It's just dead. It's getting tough to evaluate the quality of opposing pitchers because the Phils can't hit anyone who throws at them.
Fun facts that say more about the NL East than about the Phillies: The Phillies have scored more runs than the Nats and have the highest team batting average in the division (#21 in MLB).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oBp8rJjI44
bitch ass broxton at it again
too bad dustys dugout dice told him to make a change
GRIT does it again. hashtagteammvp
THEY SCORED! THEY SCORED!!
stupid fans thought that was a homer
lehigh valley brown comin through with a big shot halfway up the outfield. huuuuuge can of corn.
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2013, 04:10:11 PM
lehigh valley brown comin through with a big shot halfway up the outfield. huuuuuge can of corn.
scouting report must have been to swing early against marshalls curve.....cause he thru the exact same pitch twice and GRIT and HOF both waited on it and swung....HOF knew exactly what was coming and he got it....he just missed it cause hes a zesty hitter
basticho hung that slider big time
they obviously wont touch chapman but the question is does he get to a 3 ball count
o/u on chappys pitch total this inning = 13
ball 2 and ball 3 were strikes but i honestly can believe fatty young took 4 pitches
Champmans 3rd pitch should have been called a strike
How is Chapman not getting the call on these inside pitches? They're catching the plate.
unbelievable
Good job Lee you asshat
Even Wheels is bashing him
lol this team is something else
wow
lee cost them the win
And of course Kratz could have ended the game if it weren't for Lee. Good job you dipshtein.
of course the excuse will be that phifer gives 110% on every play and stuff like that happens
something is seriously wrong with chappy....hes gotta be hurt
marty brenneman is absolutely sickened
Kratz and Galvis goes together like frank and beans
the call from THOM brennamen was hysterical...so pissed off and angry
freddy needs to play everyday. hes going be a pretty decent player when all is said and done
worst comeback ever?
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
the call from THOM brennamen was hysterical...so pissed off and angry
His call of Lee's astonishing base presence was equally hysterical.
To call my reaction to Kratz and Galvis going back to back off Chapman as shocking would be an understatement.
Were you upset that they won?
My name ain't MDS.
i actually raised my arms when freddy's hr cleared the wall. in fact i knew kratz was going yard, too.
it doesnt take away from them being terrible but it was a nice win
First time in franchise history the Phils won a game with back-to-back HRs
Kratz is the only major leaguer to homer off Chapman and Kimbrel
and here's Brennaman's (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=27265271&topic_id=8877986&c_id=cin) call, which was so much better than TMac's (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=27265143) one
Ruiz is out 3-4wks
Choke has a meniscus problem and getting a cortisone shot and may need the DL
Too bad about Ruiz, he had started to hit a little.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 20, 2013, 11:12:06 AM
and here's Brennaman's (http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=27265271&topic_id=8877986&c_id=cin) call, which was so much better than TMac's (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=27265143) one
Franzke/LA starts at 0:50 (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=27273723&topic_id=&c_id=phi&tcid=vpp_copy_27273723&v=3)
Hamels looking nice and zesty again.
What a bum.
HOF goes yardski.
8th on the year.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 20, 2013, 11:12:06 AM
First time in franchise history the Phils won a game with back-to-back HRs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI192209150.shtml
and check out the name of the guy who hit the walk off
hamels coughs up the go ahead run and delmon young wattles after it
somewhere amaro is laughing about all of this
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 20, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI192209150.shtml
and check out the name of the guy who hit the walk off
The Phillies manager was named Kaiser Wilhelm?
This franchise is so terrible it even lost World War I.
all the roids he takes and nix cant hit a flyball deep enough
12-32 Marlins are winning.
Good solid baseball again tonight.
This team disgusts me.
Quote@TheHighPhive: "@jaysonst: Amazing note: Hamels hasn't thrown a single pitch with his team holding a lead since April 7. That was 52 innings ago."
outside of 2 homers vs. fatty chapman the phillies have scored 2 runs since friday
Remember when I said losing Schierholtz was dumb? Proof Amaro doesn't know shtein...
Quote@HighCheese: Delmon Young: .196/.293/.314 1 HR, 12 SO, 60 PA. Nate Schierholtz: .285/.321/.520, 5 HR, 17 SO, 132 PA. For what tat's worth
Grit was safe!
Umpiring is awful
the fact that youre crying about losing nate scheerholtz says everything you need to know about the phillies
yeah he was the missing piece to a world series team
I knew that would be the response I'd get from you. You're missing the big picture, pal.
Qualls is the closer hahahah he's gonna 1-2-3 their asses
whats the big picture? amaro is a dumbass.
and now manuel starts managing this like its game 7 of the world series and he has a lead. 3 pitchers in 1/3 of an inning all so french douche can give up a hit to some minor leaguer. brilliant as usual chuck.
and lol hamels is going to be 1-7
Ok I'm done.
farg these farging funholes.
I hate this team.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2013, 09:44:07 PM
Ok I'm done.
farg these farging funholes.
I hate this team.
lol you are leading the homer bandwagon WHO WILL RUN IT NOW?
Nope. Don't care.
They're rotten and it begins at the top. They'll never win shtein until the farging clown who builds the roster is replaced.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
On the optimistic side, I'd say in the 86-88 range.
MAYBE enough to beat the Braves for 2nd, but not enough to catch up with the Nats.
Haladay wins 12 games. ERA between 3.50 and 4.00.
Yeah, mine was overly optimistic (even noted it in my post). At this point, I'd revise to say 77-81. They're not the worst, but they're decidedly mediocre, and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Next two years will be the bottoming out.
And Halladay? Ouch.
their nerd numbers indicate they should have about 16 wins now. and lets remember they only have 3 series left vs. miami and they cant even beat them
if you think its bad now wait to july and august.
speaking of nerd numbers....according to them going into last nights game sanabia was the single worst SP in the major leagues
and they are about to put choke on the dl.
the dude tore his acl 2 years ago and hes still not healthy. but hey only 3 years to go on his contract.
doesnt really matter at this point but he tore his achilles
and 3 years doesnt sound to bad....if you had asked me how many were left i would have said four or five
the part that makes it OK is that even if they didnt have him they would still be terrible
its not like rube would take the 25 mil allocated for choke and sprinkle it around wisely to make a world series team. i mean their vaunted catcher who just had to come back because kratz was the worst game caller ever (so says halladone) tore a hammy 3 weeks into his season.
actually you are probably saying three more years AFTER this season...i was counting this year and thinking it was 4-5 so yeah thats about right
yeah its going to be bad as we move along thru 14-16 not because the money will be keeping them from winning but because he is going to be clockin 25 mil per and be a guy who should be in the minors....right now he sucks but hes still in the declining mode...next few years he will be in the RIP mode...but the truly sickening aspect of it is when the deal is over there will not have been a single season of the extension where he produced...because if your recall the last year he was a run producer was 2011 and that was already covered by his existing deal
most bad deals become bad at the very end but you at least get 2-3 big production years in the early stages....this one was a hideous signing from jump
roob is truly a buffoon
Grit with an oblique strain. Late scratch.
And that inf single by Pierre sums up this group of shteinbags.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2013, 02:49:23 PMmost bad deals become bad at the very end but you at least get 2-3 big production years in the early stages....this one was a hideous signing from jump
roob is truly a buffoon
they gave him 5 years A YEAR AND A HALF before his deal was up
the acl you couldnt forsee but he was already on a downward spiral and rube just ignored it and handed him 125 large like it was nothing
id love to think all this shtein will get him canned but i know that wont happen
ACL....Achilles.
Knee....Heel.
Eh....same thing.
Ha!
Lol
I'm still laughing at this.
HA... PAD
Lidge is retiring as a Phillie
QuoteThough Domonic Brown made his major-league debut in 2010, this is the first season we've been able to accurately judge his abilities and forecast his future because it's the first season he's played every day. And he's making quite the impression, providing power in the middle of the Phillies' order with a team-leading eight home runs.
Brown trails only Chase Utley and Ryan Howard with 23 RBIs, and his .435 slugging percentage is second only to Utley among Phils regulars.
At age 25, Brown is on pace for 28 home runs. Only 29 active players have hit that many homers in their age-25 season, meaning Brown will join a select group if he keeps it up.
What makes Brown's situation more impressive, though, is that this is his first full season. Of those 29 active guys with 28-plus homers at age 25, all but four previously had at least one full season under their belt. Brown's played in parts of three years, but even if you add up all those plate appearances it doesn't even equal one full season.
Carlos Quentin, Mark Trumbo, Pedro Alvarez and Josh Reddick – that's the complete list of active players who homered at least 28 times at the age and situation Brown is in.
Brown's success to this point has been the most positive sign of an up-and-down Phillies season. It's not just impressive plate discipline anymore -- Brown's power is developing to where the Phillies need it to be.
Over his last 25 games, Brown has six homers and five doubles. Those 11 extra-base hits came in the span of just 94 plate appearances; no other player in the NL East had that many XBH in that few plate appearances over the last month.
With Ryan Howard dinged up, Delmon Young coming around very slowly, Carlos Ruiz out several weeks and Chase Utley possibly the same, Brown's contributions have been important and will continue to be.
Brown has no walks and 14 strikeouts in May, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. He's already proven at this level that he has solid plate discipline, and now he's swinging in hitter's counts no matter how early.
On 1-0 counts this season Brown is 7 for 13 with two homers. On 2-0 counts he's 5 for 7 with a double.
Where Brown used to be passive, he's now taking charge. And his increased aggressiveness is paying off in the form of power.
Good game by Lee.
Aumont sent to AAA
Always a good sign as a pitcher when your batting average is higher than your ERA.
1 game under for a team hitting michael young third
think about that
Quote from: MDS on May 23, 2013, 02:12:04 AM
1 game under for a team hitting michael young third
think about that
half their wins versus the mets or marlins
10-17 against winning teams
1 series win over a winning team
really you dont have to think too hard about it....its elementary
Offense - bottom 5 in the NL in Runs, HR, OBP, and OPS.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 23, 2013, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 23, 2013, 02:12:04 AM
1 game under for a team hitting michael young third
think about that
half their wins versus the mets or marlins
10-17 against winning teams
1 series win over a winning team
really you dont have to think too hard about it....its elementary
i know...its still strange considering how bad they are and how appallingly bad their stats are
Grit goes on the DL with an oblique strain.
Who does fargface call up?
Mike Mike is back.
Sorry ass Martinez.
not that any of it matters but its not like they have mike trout to bring up
they needed a backup middle infielder. so they brought one up that youre gonna find in AAA.
put young at second galvis at third and bring up ruff...if for nothing else the games at boston on mon and tuesday...but really for the rest of the year
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 23, 2013, 10:32:02 PM
Mike Mike is back.
national league ranks since 2011
mike mike .188 BA - last
mike mike .241 OBP - last
mike mike .272 SLG - second to last
geo in the house the other nite
http://deadspin.com/get-a-load-of-this-farging-phillies-fan-509542320?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
QuoteGotta be 'shopped - no Phillies fan would own something without a removable battery.
I laughed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 24, 2013, 09:48:44 AM
geo in the house the other nite
http://deadspin.com/get-a-load-of-this-farging-phillies-fan-509542320?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Nah, I wouldn't be that close to the dugout.
I would....so I could hurl insults.
Choke double and a HOF single...Phils up.
And the park is full of Phils fans
Natitude!!
Ben Revere just threw a guy out at the plate.
Tyler Moore tried to doze Kratz but he held on
"Another double play hit into by Ben Revere" - TMAC
I'd take May back for him straight up. What a farging bum.
Please tell me Judy Revere isn't signed for next year.
Revere is terrible.
Missed catch in the first
Huge grounded into double play
Another misplayed fly ball
Ben Revere can't hit or throw, and apparently can't read the ball very well in centerfield. Other than that, he's a pretty good player...
The angle he took on the ball in center was sad. And then he jumped when the ball wasn't remotely close to needin to jump for. It landed 3 feet over and short of where he jumped from.
He's terrible.
They should be winning 5-2 not losing.
funholes
season over?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 24, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
They should be winning 5-2 not losing.
If they were actually a good team, I'd agree. But they got what they deserved.
I won't get to see the game tonight because FOX says I need to see A's and Astros.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 24, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
Ben Revere can't hit or throw, and apparently can't read the ball very well in centerfield. Other than that, he's a pretty good player...
I never followed the guy when he played for the Twins, actually I barely remember him playing on the Twins. He fooled somebody because this dude is awful. He bats second again tonight I throw the laptop out the window.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 25, 2013, 12:04:33 PM
I won't get to see the game tonight because FOX says I need to see A's and Astros.
Blacked out here as well on MLB.com. I was so looking forward to watching Ben Revere produce.
Why am I hearing goddamn TMac on Fox?
Dom Brown with home run #9
Quote@magelb: Delmon Young's walk was the first unintentional one for the Phillies in 27 innings. Tyler Cloyd walked in the 5th inning Tuesday.
lol
Quote@magelb: Ryan Howard is one away from tying Reggie Jackson for most Golden Sombreros in baseball history.
worst team ever
i just want them to be around .500 in a month when i see them in san diego
also lol @ delmon young somehow hitting a single when michael young went 1st to home. i dont even know how thats possible.
bob carptenter is hysterical. tmac is annoying and bad this guy is just BAD
Hamels can't seem to buy a break. Not even for $147 million.
Breaks are running about 147.5 these days. So close....
corksuckers. Bad throw by Young...poor play by Quintero.
Helped set up by a goddamn blown call to start the inning
2-0
Hamels gonna be 1-8
Michael Young HA! This guy couldn't field a beach ball.
4-0 now
Cue clown music.
4 runs compliments of Young & Young.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 26, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
4 runs compliments of Young & Young.
Best firm in town.
super bad luck for hamels
up until lombardozzi's hit nothing was really hit well off him that inning. bang bang play goes against him to start, dribbler squirts through, walk, then michael young cant field a swinging bunt and delmon young jesus christ why even bother
on top of that the lineup manuel put out today couldnt even beat the clearwater threshers. this whole team is just really sad. everything that i said was gonna happen in march is happening and its still depressing to see
I'm watching natgeotv right now. Evidently Hitler got away.
Just a farging stellar AB by Ryan farging Howard.
2-0 count and this idiot whiffs at a changeup. Nevermind working the count because you have the first two runners on...no sir. Go hack your ass off. Next pitch a double play.
They scored on a balk.
Lol.
I fcking despise this farging team.
I've been missing far more games - or at least portions - this season than at anytime in the last decade. Not (usually) intentional, but I'm subconsciously finding other things to do. It's just not the priority is usually is for me to make sure to catch the game.
The chances of that happening are better than you getting laid by a female you didn't have to pay first, corksucker.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
91-71
Choke, Grit and Jimmy the Pimp all have good seasons
nice contract heidi
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 26, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
nice contract heidi
You can't expect him to hit and field too. He pitched great today (as well as Stras) and got buttfarged by his teammates and the first base ump.
his contract was an abomination when he signed it and its now worse
hes an ok pitcher....hes not a 150 million dollar man
lol hes ok
simmer down sally
goin into today he was 1-7 with a 4.50 era
He's an "okay" pitcher.
His contract is questionable and he's had some clunkers this season but this wasn't one of them.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 26, 2013, 05:20:22 PM
His contract is questionable and he's had some clunkers this season but this wasn't one of them.
i dont know what this means?
It means he pitched well today so only the igys of the world would pick today to bitch about his contract.
a 150 million dollar contract is much bigger than any individual start....im pretty sure he will pitch well again sometime over the next five years....but so will trevor cahill
bottom line is heidis a 13-10 type pitcher.....not terrible not great and definitely not 150 mil
the moment if you try to define a pitcher by his record is the moment your argument dies
youve watched cole hamels for the past 8 years. you know hes a very good pitcher. is he as good as justin verlander? as stras? as king? as kershaw? ok no. but hes still quite talented at throwing a baseball. stop.
Not something said very often, but Todd is right. And all of those guys he named are going to get a shteinton more money than Hamels did, so his contract is probably right about where it should be.
Quote from: MDS on May 26, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
the moment if you try to define a pitcher by his record is the moment your argument dies
youve watched cole hamels for the past 8 years. you know hes a very good pitcher. is he as good as justin verlander? as stras? as king? as kershaw? ok no. but hes still quite talented at throwing a baseball. stop.
he had a great october 2008....other than that eh
he also cost them the 2009 ws with his offseason victory tour
but keep sucking him off....eventually youll actually believe hes great
ok i guess he sucks
not at all....hes just not the god you want him to be
1 and effin 8......lol
nowhere have i ever called him a god. im not sure why youre trying to start a homer fight with me when weve talked ENDLESSLY about how bad they are.
hamels has 3 starts this year where he's pitched poorly. the 1-8 thing is actually quite funny on the surface but thoroughly meaningless in reality
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 26, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
I've been missing far more games - or at least portions - this season than at anytime in the last decade. Not (usually) intentional, but I'm subconsciously finding other things to do. It's just not the priority is usually is for me to make sure to catch the game.
How true. I think I watched a total of three innings from the Nats series, maybe one from the Marlins and a couple from the Reds. This shtein show is falling further down the to do list by the day.
After years and years of living all over the country and having to pay to watch most games on the teevee, now I get them free on local channels and I have little interest in actually watching them. Maybe averaging 18 innings total per week would be my guess.
I'm shocked Choke struck out. Shocked!
was it on here someone mentioned he is now tied or 1 behind reggie for most golden sombreros in the history of baseball
Yep. I think Gelb tweeted it yesterday.
And Ben Revere...he kills the grass between home and second.
Game over...20 minutes in and it's game over.
Ugly uniforms/caps and an ugly home run.
minor league pitcher against a good AL team in a homer happy park
LOL
Hopefully the fire sale starts sooner than expected.
putrid
Hopefully some drunk southie kicks the shtein outta Amaro.
Maybe Papsmear will do his little Irish jig and someone shoots him.
what ever the double play record is, this offense is sure to shatter it.
you do realize the astros currently have a better lineup than them
Christ, University of Hawaii Hilo has a better lineup.
ben revere dumbass alert
I didn't think it was possible but RAJ found a CF dumber than Victorino
Any of the shrapnel bombs leftover up there?
well im done
Choke;
0-9 with seven k's and two double plays
Phils three DPs tonight
farging farg farg farg this zesty farging baseball team
Holy shtein!!
Great catch Revere.
He broke something...no padding there
Revere stayed in and got a hit.
Then Mike Young lines out to the pitcher
fargkkkkk
Been out most of the day. Got home and checked the game... and promptly turned it off.
Rollins walks
Choke singles
1st and 3rd with no outs.
Delmon Young strikes out
HOF fouls out
2013 Phillies. Offensively challenged and completely baseball retarded.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS199907150.shtml
i already found the box score for this game
Speaking of baseball retards...Choke Howard.
Losing 8-1 and this clown is on 2nd after doubling. Ground ball to SS and he's caught wandering off second like he's going somewhere. Dope.
Dom jacks a 2r bomb.
Time to bat him 3rd.
If you would have asked me at the beginning of the year when Dom Brown would hit HR #10, I would have guessed sometime in August.
Quote from: Munson on May 27, 2013, 10:11:25 PM
If you would have asked me at the beginning of the year when Dom Brown would hit HR #10, I would have guessed sometime in August 2017.
.
Hah!
I thought he'd have an okay year this year, especially after all the positive reporting on him during spring training
M V P!
M V P!
farg THIS TEAM!
michael younggidp- 12
xbh- 10
chokebb- 9
k- 54
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2013, 02:10:17 PM
Michael Young has 19 straight singles? He's hitting over .350.
Any beefs, haters?
my favorite J post ever
Glad I can amuse.
HOF homers again, granted it's a rope in the cracker box of Fenway but still.
HOF is legit.
farging Wheels! Saying the Boston crowd is booing Papsmear because they don't want him to succeed in another uniform. Jesus Wheeler, remember two years ago when the hack blew their season on that last day of the season? Tell it like it is buffoon.
Lee was dealing tonight.
Sell now, please.
Time to trade Lee.....
if the phillies dont play AAAberry tomorrow (likely), theyll have 1 player above .260 in their lineup
ben. 263.
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 01:17:17 AM
if the phillies dont play AAAberry tomorrow (likely), theyll have 1 player above .260 in their lineup
ben. 263.
they also dont have an obp above .347
i guess HOF traded in his amazing eye for some power because hes on pace for 27 bb and 110 k
and he's 3 games away from going the entire month of May without a walk
110k would probably be acceptable if he's giving you at least 25-30 homers. Still less than 1k per game. 27bb for the year would have to be some sort of record low for an everyday player though, wouldn't it?
to be fair he is on pace for 34 home runs
polanco used to be in that range for walks....but he had sick bat control...HOF is doing absolutely nothing but showing a little pop...
what would make it more amazing than the low total of walks would be if he had a power season 34 hr and 100 rbi or something like that and <30 walks....even more so for where hes hitting in the lineup...there is absolutely nothing behind him....if he keeps hitting home runs youd think he get pitched around 27 times...problem is hes hitting .255 with seven doubles so he doesnt exactly scare anyone yet
eventually hes going to have to adjust to pitchers...gonna be interesting to see if in the second half of his season he can raise his average and obp while his home run totals regress because id be suprised if they didnt
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 29, 2013, 11:22:07 AM
110k would probably be acceptable if he's giving you at least 25-30 homers. Still less than 1k per game. 27bb for the year would have to be some sort of record low for an everyday player though, wouldn't it?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dunstsh01.shtml
superstar singles machine michael young to the bereavement list, cesar hernandez coming up.
within a month or two the infield needs to be asche-galvis-hernandez-choke*
*could be anyone really, they have nothing at 1B organizationally
Quote from: Dillen on May 29, 2013, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 29, 2013, 11:22:07 AM
110k would probably be acceptable if he's giving you at least 25-30 homers. Still less than 1k per game. 27bb for the year would have to be some sort of record low for an everyday player though, wouldn't it?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dunstsh01.shtml
Am I reading this right? In 1997 he had 490 ABs (511 total plate appearances) and walked EIGHT farging times? That's the same amount of times he got caught stealing.
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 01:34:26 PM
superstar singles machine michael young to the bereavement list, cesar hernandez coming up.
within a month or two the infield needs to be asche-galvis-hernandez-choke*
*could be anyone really, they have nothing at 1B organizationally
What the hell, put in Ruf.
he needs to play too but at least for now hes an outfielder
nobody wants choke and they are stuck with him. though im not sure how they can ever have brown and ruf as corner outfielders--even if they both hit--and expect to get away with it.
I had a conversation that went like this at the game on Sunday:
Me: (to guy in Phillies gear) Hey Philly, who is Quintero?
Philly guy's girlfriend: George.
Me: George Quintero?
Girlfriend: No, my boyfriend is named George.
Me: Meh.
I forget how it ended but she sucked.
not that it would matter to the team this year if they brought him up....but ruff is horrid...he has no future in the franchise...and he definitely shouldnt replace choke....trust me you wont be happy watching him play
unless it was the outfield as a HOF ruff corner combo would be amazingly train wrecky to watch
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
he needs to play too but at least for now hes an outfielder
in the majors he a 1b period....but theres no way you can bring him up and bench choke...no matter how bad choke is hes still way better than ruff and it would be a disgraceful slap in the face...if you wanna use ruff bring him up for road interleague for late inning matt stair specials and to give choke a breather....otherwise its the OF
Grit to the DL for 3 weeks.
he was already on the 15 day dl....charlie just said he would be out for another three weeks
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2013, 02:29:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
he needs to play too but at least for now hes an outfielder
in the majors he a 1b period....but theres no way you can bring him up and bench choke...no matter how bad choke is hes still way better than ruff and it would be a disgraceful slap in the face...if you wanna use ruff bring him up for road interleague for late inning matt stair specials and to give choke a breather....otherwise its the OF
i honestly dont care who's better
this team is going absolutely nowhere. you have a slew of mediocre to maybe halfway decent AAA players. bring em up and see what you got. what else is there to do? play ryan howard? oh good, every team needs a corpse.
you dont know who ruff is but trust me he is hideous....hes more of a corpse than choke except the dont owe him any respect....you dont bench a former mvp world champion who is the best 1st basemen in your clubs history for a no position minor league stiff
is he better or worse than jason heyward, who is hitting .156 this year with a career .255 average
farging Revere is just a disaster in CF. Shane was a littel bit stupid and a little bit of cockiness. Revere is just plain zesty.
Shane was an all around better player and it's not even close. I can't think of one aspect of Revere's game I'd take over Vics.
michael bourn ftw, that trade was the beginning of the end.
Dustin Pedroia is someone I'd like to punch. He seems like a little douchebag.
Uggla still number one on the "kick in the nuts list".
Horrible called third strike on Choke.
1. Cody Ross
2. Dan Uggla
3. Bryce fargface
Von Brown loves him some Red Sox pitching.
Son of a bitch this HOF is! Guys on fire.
I don't mind Pedroia.
I don't wanna jinx it but, Dom Brown is legit. That looked like it was gonna be a pop up CBP special, but that shtein landed a few rows deep I think.
Homer: "See, once it starts to warm up they'll start hitting"
Kratz having a good game tonight. I must say this, because it is not the norm...
Quote from: Don Ho on May 29, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
Homer: "See, once it starts to warm up they'll start hitting"
Wheels has been saying it all night...
HOFs legitness grows.
Ruben is on the horn with Kratzs agent for a long term deal. They'll sign him and let Ruiz walk thinking he's an every day guy.
Three years today was Halladays perfect game.
24yrs ago Schmidt retired...I will never forget that. Came home for the summer and was excited to see the game and saw that PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOPLJQuVm_I
Sox fans wondering who the farg this Dom Brown guy is.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 29, 2013, 08:42:53 PM
Sox fans wondering who the farg this Dom Brown guy is.
Yo Patty who is this fackin numbah nine? He's hittin' bombs offa Lackey. He rahminds me ova youngah lefty Jimmy Rice.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2013, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 29, 2013, 08:42:53 PM
Sox fans wondering who the farg this Dom Brown guy is.
Yo Patty who is this fackin numbah nine? He's hittin' bombs offa Lackey. He rahminds me ova youngah lefty Jimmy Rice.
Nice attempt but there would probably be more n word.
"farg yeah man" - Kyle Kendrick
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 29, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2013, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 29, 2013, 08:42:53 PM
Sox fans wondering who the farg this Dom Brown guy is.
Yo Patty who is this fackin numbah nine? He's hittin' bombs offa Lackey. He rahminds me ova youngah lefty Jimmy Rice.
Nice attempt but there would probably be more n word.
Guaranteed. It's sad to see when a black hockey player does something good against the Bruins (Penguins fans do this too esp to Simmonds) the southies get all ignorant on twitter.
to be fair theres no shortage of phillies fans droppin fat monkey and spearchucker bombs all over choke....and hes a former mvp for their own team
Choke goddaammit! farging make contact.
shtein
Any doubt about a Howard strikeout?
Bases loaded and the "ex-MVP" strikes out swinging.
Awesome.
stillupfront boo's raining down
Motherfarging iceholes.
Solid ABs by Choke and AAA.
The last 10 minutes is a perfect example of why this team needs to be absolutely flushed from the top down.
god i hate watching mike adams
HOFire
shtein!
Brown's gonna end up with one of those really weird 30 HR & 80 RBI seasons.
What are the chances Cholly moves him into the cleanup spot? Like, 10 gazillion to 1?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
god i hate watching mike adams
Why?
1. hes not part of their past
2. hes not part of their future
3. hes old as shtein
4. hes the least interesting man in the world
Quote from: Rome on May 29, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
What are the chances Cholly moves him into the cleanup spot? Like, 10 gazillion to 1?
the last thing you want to do is move him right now....plus even if he turns into a real player one day he will never be a clean up hitter even then....much less now
youre right. they should keep him in a spot where no one is on base in front of him. ever.
Quote from: Rome on May 29, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
youre right. they should keep him in a spot where no one is on base in front of him. ever.
you know they have no chance to win this year right?
you also know that the leader in obp on this team is like 75th in the majors....NO ONE gets on on this team
all you need to worry bout with HOF is letting him settle in and prove he can be a full time major league baseball player....why would you mess with his success right now?...leave your pipe dreams about this team as a whole out of this
how is moving him up in the order a spot or two going to ruin his career?
seriously, you're not suggesting that, are you? and if you are, please get some help with the drinking. cause you're losin it, big boi.
Where did Choke hit in 2005? 6th?
I'd leave him be while hot even though I said move him to third the other day. I'm superstitious. And he's in a groove.
Plus no one will get on ahead of him anyways.
As for Mike Adams hate...meh
Gotta catch that, HOF!! farg!!
this is hilarious. chokes all around!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
Gotta catch that, HOF!! farg!!
He was probably concerned with the prospect of moving up a spot in the order. shtein happens, yo.
Whew! Had 'em all the way, Harry.
Nava had a chance! Phils win, Phils win, PHILS WIN!
lol at his career....he hasnt had a career until the last month...now he has a few homers and you wanna move him to clean up...a spot in the order that he will probably never man...plus you arent putting three lefties in a row in the lineup
leave him alone...stop trying to play fantasy internet baseball with guys and especially with this team....again they ARENT winning anything this year
wow hes the worst fielder ever
WORST WIN EVER!
Jesus...
Now we know why the Boston fans booed the shtein out of Papsmear.
You just spent three hours of your life watching that meaningless win. Think about that.
I'll enjoy the win and you'll sulk about another missed opportunity to whine about how Papelbon is the worst signing ever!
Wins all around.
well thats the difference btwn a homer and a hater and you are an all time homer and im an all time hater
and actually i watched a lot of o's nats and the hockey game....but even if there werent better games on theres no chance i could watch three hours of a meaningless phillie game when mcarthy and wheels are doing it as i have to have it on mute and that gets annoying
real fans watch the games. you're not a real fan. you're the worst fan ever. a fraud, in fact. be proud, fraudy fraudster.
Home and Garden Network show about fire ants and effective incesticdes
Or
Phillies game
Havas be all over the home and garden show!
shut up nerds
so i was thinking about relief pitchers. i have a scenario.
4-3 game cliff lee at 110 pitches, hes done. nationals have harper, zimm, laroche due up in the 8th inning. next 3 are desmond, espinosa, ramos.
give me one reason why you shouldnt use papelbon there other than "well its not a save situation."
Damn right he should be used there. He should get the heart of the order
do you think saves are stupid but like wins?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2013, 11:19:41 PM
Home and Garden Network show about fire ants and effective incesticdes
Or
Phillies game
Havas be all over the home and garden show!
sick local rivalry game in baseball or classic game 7 og 6 hockey game vs meaningless may phillies game
ill watch all three
you guys are phillies fans im a sports fan
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 11:25:21 PM
shut up nerds
so i was thinking about relief pitchers. i have a scenario.
4-3 game cliff lee at 110 pitches, hes done. nationals have harper, zimm, laroche due up in the 8th inning. next 3 are desmond, espinosa, ramos.
wait this is the first time youve ever thought about someone getting a six out save?...or am i not understanding this scenario and you came up with something new?
FRAUD
HOF has 13 home runs and 17 BB+2b+3b
Is that 17 combined BB, 2B, and 3B?
yes
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2013, 11:25:21 PM
shut up nerds
so i was thinking about relief pitchers. i have a scenario.
4-3 game cliff lee at 110 pitches, hes done. nationals have harper, zimm, laroche due up in the 8th inning. next 3 are desmond, espinosa, ramos.
wait this is the first time youve ever thought about someone getting a six out save?...or am i not understanding this scenario and you came up with something new?
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no you use papelbon for the 8th because its the strongest part of the order. take the word save out of your vocabulary. explain to me why wouldnt use your best reliever in the most critical point in the game*
*the only catch would be if your second or third best relievers are incapable of passing the mental barrier to get the 27th out of a game. some relievers simply cannot do this with any kind of regularity. most can, though.
thats fine but id leave paplebon in for the ninth as well....hes still your best pitcher in his second inning of work....theres no reason why every closer in the league shouldnt be able to get six outs
they probably can but that most likely prohibits them from being used the following day
plus on the surface, shouldnt a #2 reliever be able to get out the bottom of the order? maybe mike adams is a bit of a bad example seeing how old as washed up he is, but how about a quality secondary bullpen option like tyler clippard and david robertson.
its all about thinking logically. im waiting for the day a manager actually does this.
Red Sox lineup chipping away at Pettibon in the top first. 4 hits, a walk, 4 runs.
Franklin Morales? Wow. There's a name from the past.
So they let Cesar Hernandez out of fifth grade to play tonight? He looks like he's 11 years old.
Holy crap! A home run with a man on base! Hell must be freezing.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 30, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Holy crap! A home run with a man on base! Hell must be freezing.
Don't expect anything else!
who didnt see that double play coming?
Quote from: Don Ho on May 30, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
So they let Cesar Hernandez out of fifth grade to play tonight? He looks like he's 11 years old.
He's actually older than Pettibone by a couple months. Both were born in the 90s. Feelin old yet
One goddamm hit since the first inning. One.
Loved the shot of Jimmy slamming his helmet after Kratz killed the rally with a GIDP
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 30, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
One goddamm hit since the first inning. One.
Loved the shot of Jimmy slamming his helmet after Kratz killed the rally with a GIDP
You can't say goddamn on the air!
Lberry shouldnt have taken that extra base there and went for six
wait why did the sox just let the pitcher hit then take him out?
Before Hernandez single there these offensively challenged fargs went 14 in a row without getting a ball outta the infield.
sox bang the over
Just a turkey shoot when Durbin is out there.
mcarthy says chad durbin taking one for the team here....like hes some stud reliever who chuckles is treating unfairly....hes doing exactly what a mop up man is supposed to do
And good ol Rube will keep him on the roster
chad durbin has 2 appearances in which he has not allowed 1 baserunner to reach
Quote from: MDS on May 31, 2013, 01:20:12 AM
chad durbin has 2 appearances in which he has not allowed 1 baserunner to reach
released
Good riddance to that gas can.
they are definitely a winning team without him
I guess one run per inning is the cutoff point for Rube. That's about where Doc was when they shut him down too.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2013, 04:10:57 PM
they are definitely a winning team without him
This is a point ---------------------------> (.)
This is you -----------------------------> (completely missing it).
HOF! Again.
As zesty as this team is at least we can watch HOF right now. He'll definitely cool off but the guy is on a fricken tear.
Seeing Choke actually take a few pitches almost brought on cardiac arrest.
And the rosey cheeked Hoyda lets the Brewers right back in. farging head case.
Igy & MDS --- are we allowed to cheer and be excited with HOF playing out of his mind?
Or no because they're "not a winning team"?
Heidi right on cue - tick, tick, tick, BOOM!
Quote from: Don Ho on May 31, 2013, 08:08:09 PM
Heidi right on cue - tick, tick, tick, BOOM!
I don't know that he's thrown a bad pitch this inning.
2 infield singles, sky-high pop-up drops around three players, broken bat single. Hamels has a case of the Phifers.
Oh yea, those were all lame hits but how he reacts when things aren't going his way has become frightening of late.
Yeah now he's coming apart. His pitch count is getting fat too.
What a farging train wreck of an inning.
Dinks and dunks, errors and excuse me hits.
Come on, ACE.
This is one weird farging inning for one weird farging pitcher.
You can almost hear Revere thinking, "Should I call him off or just collide with him and see what happens?"
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 31, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Igy & MDS --- are we allowed to cheer and be excited with HOF playing out of his mind?
Or no because they're "not a winning team"?
if you want to get excited about a bunch of fly balls and doubles winding up as homers in this joke ballpark then OK. hes a progressing player that might or might not be good. well see.
I'm just about done with this game. I wanted to watch baseball, not the Keystone Cops.
Quote from: MDS on May 31, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 31, 2013, 07:48:50 PM
Igy & MDS --- are we allowed to cheer and be excited with HOF playing out of his mind?
Or no because they're "not a winning team"?
if you want to get excited about a bunch of fly balls and doubles winding up as homers in this joke ballpark then OK. hes a progressing player that might or might not be good. well see.
You're a joyless bastich!
lol...just trying to be real kiddo
to his credit hes tailoring his swing for the park and hitting the ball hard. theyre not pop ups that are homers (a choke special) they are shots that are doubles that are clearing the wall because cbp is a joke.
the part i wanna see next is how he responds to being pitched around more. right now hes getting attacked, hes getting fastballs. will he get more selective, and actually walk, when that comes? or will he delmon young it and swing at every pitch thrown to him?
p.s. i feel bad for cole and cliff. 2 pitchers in their prime pitching well for a putrid team. cole hamels is getting paid 25 mil a year so cesar hernandez can make rookie mistakes and so delmon young can limp around the outfield. that makes sense.
Cole is getting paid $25M a year to pitch like farging shtein
12 hits and 7 runs allowed after being given a 3-0 lead. Against a team who is playing like shtein!
Dom!!
Wow.
Barkaan pointed out last night that if Dom went this game without a walk, he'd be the first player in MLB history to hit double digit home runs in a month without walking
Someone needs to beat the shtein out of those three Hoydas dressed up in their Brewers 70's garb.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 31, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
Cole is getting paid $25M a year to pitch like farging shtein
12 hits and 7 runs allowed after being given a 3-0 lead. Against a team who is playing like shtein!
:yay yep, this ones on Mr. Sensitive.
Hamels looking more like Randy Lerch than Steve Carlton this season.
heidi hedi heidi ho
everyone all IN now???
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21568.1365
Hamels is god awful this year, but he was great from 2010-2012. His highest ERA those three years was 3.06. His WHIP was the lowest in the league in 2011, he wasn't allowing baserunners, he was K'ing people at a high rate. He finished 5th in cy young voting in '11 and 8th last year. Saying he was 'ok' is a massive misstatement.
I'm actually fine with Hamels yucking it up right now. It's a lost season anyway, so if he's going to have a turd year, might as well be this one. He's not this bad. We know this. He's not a $150mil pitcher either, but he's a lot closer to being that than he is what we're seeing right now. This is like a repeat of his 2009.
outside of oct 2008 he was never great...very good is his ceiling and his deal is preposterous...and we havent even discussed the fact that injuries arent to far away on his horizon...which was one of the main reasons i was against the deal...i didnt even think hed be this bad of a pitcher
you cant sign a guy who has exactly one pitch to a 150 mil dolla deal...those arent true stud number ones
Just a reminder though.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 31, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
78 wins.
That's 3 games under .500 for the year. They are currently 3 games under.
Players 25 or younger with a 12 HR month in the last 20 yrs: Griffey, A-Rod, Vlad, Dunn, Pujols, Beltre, Tex, Prince, Tulo, Bruce, Stanton, J. Upton & HOF
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 31, 2013, 11:01:36 PM
Just a reminder though.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 31, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
78 wins.
That's 3 games under .500 for the year. They are currently 3 games under.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
i think they are a .500 team more or less....ill say a little more as theres legit reason to be optimistic for an offensive improvement
83 wins
two reasons i believe i will be closer:
1. when/if they get healthy they will improve slighty
2. come sept they are the kind of team that has just enough good players to win meaningless games ala last year
the other side of this tho is if they hold a late august fire sale
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
outside of oct 2008 he was never great...very good is his ceiling and his deal is preposterous...and we havent even discussed the fact that injuries arent to far away on his horizon...which was one of the main reasons i was against the deal...i didnt even think hed be this bad of a pitcher
you cant sign a guy who has exactly one pitch to a 150 mil dolla deal...those arent true stud number ones
Ignoring his contract, you cannot be a reasonable baseball person and look at his 2011 statline and say he wasn't great. Period. It isn't even a debatable point.
6th in ERA, 2nd in WHIP, 10th in Ks, 4th in fewest BB per 9, 5th in complete games, 5th in K/BB ratio. If you want to get sabremetricy, 3rd in WAR for pitchers.
Unless by great you mean literally the best pitcher in the league, Hamels was without a doubt a top 5 pitcher in 2011, and his 2010-2012 run was as consistent as you can get for a starting pitcher. I don't have the time now, but I'm fairly certain if you do the last 3 years and measure all the relevant pitching stats cumulatively in those 3 years, Hamels would be in the top 10 over that period, which by my understanding of the term is great.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 31, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
I'm actually fine with Hamels yucking it up right now. It's a lost season anyway, so if he's going to have a turd year, might as well be this one. He's not this bad. We know this. He's not a $150mil pitcher either, but he's a lot closer to being that than he is what we're seeing right now. This is like a repeat of his 2009.
hes actually right in the middle of what he is now and a 150 million dollar guy.....but again thats the point
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
outside of oct 2008 he was never great...very good is his ceiling and his deal is preposterous...and we havent even discussed the fact that injuries arent to far away on his horizon...which was one of the main reasons i was against the deal...i didnt even think hed be this bad of a pitcher
you cant sign a guy who has exactly one pitch to a 150 mil dolla deal...those arent true stud number ones
I don't disagree with this. He's basically a really good #2 or a weak #1. He's been a 15 win pitcher for his entire career who pitched so far above his normal ability in 2008 that most people think that's what he is.....or should be......or could be.
I'm not sure I'm with you on the injury thing though. He's under 30 (granted, he's 29) and logs just a hair over 200 IP a season...except 2008 when he hit 227. But it's not like Doc who logged 6 straight years of at least 220 IP per season prior to 2012. And I can't remember him having any issues with his throwing arm other than missing a start (maybe 2?) back in 2011 because he had something relatively minor with his shoulder.
Granted, the fall off can be really quick like we've seen with Doc, but for the time being, I don't think Hamels has been over used or logged excessive innings on his arm. When he loses some velocity or misses a start here and there due to pain/stiffness/whatever in his throwing arm, then I'll start to wonder. For now, I think he's just having a bad year during an all around bad season for the team.
Hamels is not a weak #1. This is hilarious revisionist history or viewed in light of what is happening right now.
Find 15 pitchers who have been better the last 3 years and give me their stats and compare them. Hamels has been a solid number one the last 3 years. All the complaining about his contract doesn't change that. Only if you have an obsession with starting pitching wins can you say anything otherwise. In fact his CAREER ERA is the tenth best among active pitchers (period) in baseball right now.
So stop with all this nonsense. He sucks this year, yes.
Someone whose ERA in their career is 10th best among all active pitchers in baseball is not a weak #1. The end.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 31, 2013, 11:11:57 PM
6th in ERA, 2nd in WHIP, 10th in Ks, 4th in fewest BB per 9, 5th in complete games, 5th in K/BB ratio. If you want to get sabremetricy, 3rd in WAR for pitchers.
those are
really good numbers...but not 150 mil elite numbers....soft tossin 14-10 guys dont get that kind of money....you also have to look at his stuff and his make upnot just stats....it was pretty easy to see that he wasnt THAT guy...but ill admit im more of an eye test person than a numbers guy
And if you want a reference, here you go:
1. Mariano Rivera 2.208 R
2. Clayton Kershaw 2.706 L
3. Adam Wainwright 3.107 R
4. Felix Hernandez 3.175 R
5. Johan Santana 3.203 L
6. Jered Weaver 3.244 R
7. Roy Oswalt 3.282 R
8. Matt Cain 3.348 R
9. Roy Halladay 3.373 R
10. Cole Hamels 3.393 L
11. Tim Lincecum 3.406 R
12. Justin Verlander 3.412 R
13. Tim Hudson 3.463 R
14. Jake Peavy 3.465 R
15. CC Sabathia 3.515 L
16. Cliff Lee 3.538 L
17. Chad Billingsley 3.653 R
18. Carlos Zambrano 3.662 R
19. Dan Haren 3.706 R
20. Jon Lester 3.736 L
21. Chris Carpenter 3.759 R
22. Zack Greinke 3.780 R
23. Matt Garza 3.840 R
24. James Shields 3.844 R
25. Andy Pettitte 3.855 L
igy - if you want to just rant about the contract, fine. I think there are far worse ones on this roster unfortunately, but I'm not a fan of dropping 150 mil on any pitcher. I took issue to you linking your comment that said "hes an ok pitcher". He has been consistently very good the last years and awful this year.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 31, 2013, 11:18:37 PM
This is hilarious revisionist history
not for me...look it up i said i would have never signed him to that deal...admittedly some of it had to do with the fact that the team was going to be horrible for most of his prime years and his back....but i was never giving 150 mil to a one trick change up softy pony
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 31, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
igy - if you want to just rant about the contract, fine. I think there are far worse ones on this roster unfortunately, but I'm not a fan of dropping 150 mil on any pitcher. I took issue to you linking your comment that said "hes an ok pitcher". He has been consistently very good the last years and awful this year.
well of course its all about the contract....you think anyone would care about him if he had jimmys deal....and i contend from day one of his deal to the last day he will have been an ok pitcher.....very bad to very good at times....in others words an ok guy
He's a weak #1 because legit #1 pitchers don't have entire seasons like 2009 or his start to 2013. I like the guy, but he gets shook pretty easily. And you know who isn't ahead of Hamels on that list? Cliff Lee. And Doc is just 1 spot higher. But they were both higher in the rotation than Hamels. And unlike either of those 2, Hamels actually won a WS with this club and still didn't get the #1 or even #2 spot in the rotation. Doesn't that tell you something?
putting heidi on docs level...when both were at their best is laughable...same with phifer...but doc was next level good
That's basically what I'm getting at, and why I don't think Cole is a very good #1. And I don't even hate the contract as much as you do. It's bad, but I as long as he doesn't suffer any major injuries, I don't think it makes him untradeable like Choke....which was untradeable even before he ruptured his spleen. In 2 or 3 years, even if Hamels is "just ok" the Phils could still get decent value for him because some GM out there with a team trying to make a playoff push or solidify their rotation for a deep playoff run will give up some young pieces to increase their shot at a WS.
well yeah i agree with that....age also has a lot to do with it...but its also not really fair comparing it to chokes...his is an all time bad contract
Yeah, I'm just saying that even with his contract, just mediocre pitching from Hamels over the next couple of years would still make him an attractive target for teams with playoff/WS hopes. Pitcher has to be the most overpaid position in the 4 major sports, right? Not just in dollars, but also the number of guys who sign outrageous contracts that they have no shot of ever living up to. What else is there? Goalie? I know everyone hates the Flyers goalie and I'd imagine that netminders are often paid more than they're worth. Do they get it with the same frequency that pitchers do?
actually goalies for the most part get a pretty fair market value...but thats because its well known how skitzo they can be...the flyers other goalie right now steve mason is the perfect example...he went from rookie of the year to almost out of the league....and bobrovsky who was a pretty bad goalie on the flyers for a few years is now the vezina favorite for the team mason used to play for
breezy tho is 1000% overpaid but thats because of ed sniders monster desire to win another cup before he dies and the flyers history of having no goalies...that perfect storm got a loser like breezy a monster deal
Yeah, that's the guy I was thinking of. Don't people call him Breezaster...or something like that? You know me....don't watch hockey, so I don't know if it's pretty normal for teams to give out big contracts to average/bad goalies. I figured it would be since goaltending is kind of important and that the position might be "overvalued" in the NHL the same way that pitching is sometimes overvalued in MLB. Sounds like it isn't though.
it used to be important like qb's are important in football...but not anymore....any tom dick and harry can win a cup these days
Too bad it's not Tom, Dick or Breezy. amirite?
wait to hamels is just ok?
is he better than tommy hanson
eye of the beholder
The second dinger HOF hit was just mashed. Hamels looks putrid right now. The last home run he gave up came on an 0-2 count and the hitter was clearly dialed in on it, as in it looked like he knew it was coming.
Lol at Hamels having "one pitch".
Major lol at Hamels being "okay".
And I'll even say "lol" at him being overpaid...because when you look at the contract that the 10-15 pitchers in the MLB that are better than him will get, he's paid pretty much right where he should be. Those guys that are better than him are gonna end up getting more years/more money.
stop making sense, munson.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2013, 11:27:09 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on May 31, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
igy - if you want to just rant about the contract, fine. I think there are far worse ones on this roster unfortunately, but I'm not a fan of dropping 150 mil on any pitcher. I took issue to you linking your comment that said "hes an ok pitcher". He has been consistently very good the last years and awful this year.
well of course its all about the contract....you think anyone would care about him if he had jimmys deal....and i contend from day one of his deal to the last day he will have been an ok pitcher.....very bad to very good at times....in others words an ok guy
I mean that's just empirically untrue. It's not even an opinion, it's categorically wrong to say he has been an ok pitcher.
I won't argue about Halladay who is arguably the best pitcher of his generation, but Hamels was undeniably great from 2010-2012. Cumulative stats he's easily been a top 10 starting pitcher in that period. It's not an opinion, it's a fact, and I consider that to qualify as great. Not "ok".
Quote from: Munson on June 01, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
Lol at Hamels having "one pitch".
He has 1 dominant pitch, which is his change up. His fastball is good but it's not really blowing anyone away at 92-93 mph....but it's got enough zip to be pretty effective because of his changeup. His curve is also good but it doesn't make very many people look silly swinging at it either and I don't think he throws it very often. So I think that might be what igy was getting at...he's got a couple of good pitches and 1 great pitch.
yeah when his change is on its one of the better pitches in all of the majors....im just not giving 150 mil to a guy who relies on one pitch especially when that one pitch is a change...theres to much margin for error in his game....plus he loves giving up home runs...often at the worst times
i wont deny hes had some good years and numbers but again im more of an eye test guy where as legendz and a lot of younger people are numbers guys...ive seen heidi blink first or last way to many times to think hes a special pitcher...its one of the reasons he doesnt win a ton of games
since the deal hes a .500 pitcher with a 4.00 era thats ok...not special...if i was running the team i would have tried and dealt him at the 11 deadline...i said at the time i completely understand how that would have been a nearly impossible move pr wise and you cant blame them for not...but he wasnt worth that money and the team wasnt going to win for the majority if not all of the length of the contract
How does he compare to Matt Cain getting $127m and sucking this year?
cain really only got 107 mil...the last year of his deal has a relatively small buyout....he will only be 32 when it ends and is on a team who has already won a world series during the deal....the cain deal made way more sense
as for hamels vs cain the player...i think they are about equal...neither is special...although cains overall stuff is much better than heidis
i make the mistake of listening to the phils broadcast for 30 seconds and all i hear is wheels screaming about the brewers right fielder playing too deep while the choke shift is on....he playing deep dumb ass cause they have a short right fielder...then he pompously says "gotta let each manager run his own team"
MUTE button activated
maybe i should mute the picture
man they are bad
Dinks, dunks and errors....again.
farging terrible fundamentals.
when charlie goes in the fall that will be three coaches in 10 months gone from the city....these are not good times
excluding brown (maybe) they dont have 1 player in their lineup who would start for another team
even though hes terrible there is no reason for them not to call up ruf and play him in lf. what purpose does delmon young serve. he cant hit, he cant walk, he cant field, he cant throw. and not even a decade ago he was the 1st pick out of the draft out of high school. HE LOOKS LIKE HES 45.
i dont know who he is but the brewers 3rd base coach is a dope
now i agree with that....no matter how bad he would be out there i could care less if ruff replaced delmon...like you said why the hell not
delmon young was a 100% roob still thinking this team would contend move
thank you bad news brewers
delololomon
Amazing. Unfargingbelievable ahhhhhhhh
Kendrick called out at second on a pickoff. But the farging Ss dropped it!
Then Hernandez doubles.
Game should be farging tied!
Now Mike mike is hitting because he ran for Choke
Steve Jeltz laughs at Mikey Mart's hitting ability.
what a fascinating last inning. sucks that they got ripped by a bad call but it happens. 4 or 5 years ago they had a game lost in florida but the ump blew a fair/foul call down the 3B line in B9. went on to win in extras. what comes around goes around.
anyway brilliant moves by manuel all across this game. runs for choke with someone who cant steal, hoping his slew of .200 hitters will come through (delmon young, kevin frandsen, erik kratz. WHAT ARE YOU PINCH RUNNING FOR. WHO IS GETTING A HIT THERE). then in the 9th after a homer and a sharp infield single he has revere bunt so the pitcher is in scoring position for cesar hernandez? yes that happened.
of course the pitcher gets caught on 2nd (technically safe but caught nonetheless). cesar rips a double (i like him), they walk hof brown (his first since april 30!) to get to......michael martinez, who is not even a good AA hitter. end game.
id be mad if they had even an outside shot of making the playoffs. instead i was entertained and excited by 2 really good swings from galvis and hernandez.
(http://i.imgur.com/tpvV3Yx.gif)
and the source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAeLAkCqNis
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 01, 2013, 03:00:51 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 01, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
Lol at Hamels having "one pitch".
He has 1 dominant pitch, which is his change up. His fastball is good but it's not really blowing anyone away at 92-93 mph....but it's got enough zip to be pretty effective because of his changeup. His curve is also good but it doesn't make very many people look silly swinging at it either and I don't think he throws it very often. So I think that might be what igy was getting at...he's got a couple of good pitches and 1 great pitch.
His change up is his dominant out pitch, but his cutter and fastball are still effective pitches that he can use to get outs, whether they be K's or groundouts. The curve ball works best when he waits until the later innings to start using it.
Quote from: MDS on June 01, 2013, 07:13:12 PM
what a fascinating last inning. sucks that they got ripped by a bad call but it happens. 4 or 5 years ago they had a game lost in florida but the ump blew a fair/foul call down the 3B line in B9. went on to win in extras. what comes around goes around.
anyway brilliant moves by manuel all across this game. runs for choke with someone who cant steal, hoping his slew of .200 hitters will come through (delmon young, kevin frandsen, erik kratz. WHAT ARE YOU PINCH RUNNING FOR. WHO IS GETTING A HIT THERE). then in the 9th after a homer and a sharp infield single he has revere bunt so the pitcher is in scoring position for cesar hernandez? yes that happened.
of course the pitcher gets caught on 2nd (technically safe but caught nonetheless). cesar rips a double (i like him), they walk hof brown (his first since april 30!) to get to......michael martinez, who is not even a good AA hitter. end game.
id be mad if they had even an outside shot of making the playoffs. instead i was entertained and excited by 2 really good swings from galvis and hernandez.
i was laughing and thinking of j when mike mike was their last hope in the bottom of the ninth
1000% chance he thought mike mike was comin through
i honestly have no earthly idea why he is still in the organization. because he can play multiple positions? there are like 1000 guys who can give you a few innings at SS and make a go of it in the outfield.
no one will bother talking about but that 8th/9th inning is why even them winning in 2008 with charlie was so amazing. he is so dumb its beyond comprehension.
ive been going off on charlie since well before 2008...at this point i dont even think about him....hes terrible and it just is
charlie when he first started didnt even know what a double switch was...it was painful
they got lucky in 2008 that everything in the playoffs was just so. games went fairly normally. he never had to get creative or think outside the box, no long extra inning game, no slugfest where the starter gets shelled. it all fit the script.
i have no idea if sandberg will be good...if hes handpicked by rube that aint a good start...but anything is better than this doofus
I did not believe Minor League Mike was coming through. He was overmatched and I imagined Frankie Rodriguez thinking he could underhand the ball up there and get the guy out.
The fact that Ruben and his minions can think he serves a purpose shows their ineptitude at their jobs. When they say "let's call Martinez up" it translates into "we are playing with a 24 man roster".
They should call someone else up. Anyone but motherfarging Mike Mike
ha....thats why i was laughing cause of your extreme hatred of mm...its pretty nuts to think that they had to resort to him to win the game for them
You know I imagined him getting a hit and them showing a pic of good old Amaro high fiving his minions with a smug grin saying " I told you so"
brewers booth today.....thank god
HOF insane
Oh my god.
Unconscious Dom.
braun did not try very hard on that play....he could have easily slid and cut it off
what an inning....two great fielding plays in the top half by god jimmy and galvis and then an offensive on slaught in the bottom
enjoy while it lasts
just 70 more of these and they may have something
i generally dont care about stuff like this but i think id be physically ill if i ever saw jimmy in another teams jersey
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
i generally dont care about stuff like this but i think id be physically ill if i ever saw jimmy in another teams jersey
Yep.
Any other ex-Philly athletes who have caused you to feel that?
He needs to be a Phillie for life.
Dom is going to get the cycle today.
give it 3 months
freddy gone be the ss....only a matter of time
second lazy dumb play in the field for braun
brewers might be worse than the phillies
HOF is going to have the same amount of cycles in the last month as he has walks
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
i generally dont care about stuff like this but i think id be physically ill if i ever saw jimmy in another teams jersey
Yep.
Any other ex-Philly athletes who have caused you to feel that?
He needs to be a Phillie for life.
Dom is going to get the cycle today.
good question....definitely rick tocchet....but ive always had an unhealthy love affair with him....and charles
that might be it but id have to think harder about it
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
i generally dont care about stuff like this but i think id be physically ill if i ever saw jimmy in another teams jersey
Yep.
Any other ex-Philly athletes who have caused you to feel that?
He needs to be a Phillie for life.
Dom is going to get the cycle today.
good question....definitely rick tocchet....but ive always had an unhealthy love affair with him....and charles
that might be it but id have to think harder about it
Randall
Charles
Dawkins
Trotter
AI
McNabb
Reggie
yeah that was a terrible effort j
That's my list. No trolling.
chris boniol leaving had be more upset than the bedwetter....he cant be on anyones list...just unpossible
i may be making too much sense but should cliff lee really be in this game
the brewers have quit and its 7-0. if you take him out he can start in 2 days. too much logic not to use your best pitcher in a blowout?
lol lets say for a second that your whole premise isnt beyond adsurd for a myriad of reasons....you wouldnt pull him before hes decision qualified
Yes he should be in the goddamn game. He's paid to pitch. Let him get the W and if its still a blowout then you bring in Savery to finish the final three.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
lol lets say for a second that your whole premise isnt beyond adsurd for a myriad of reasons....you wouldnt pull him before hes decision qualified
yes gotta make sure he passes the arbitrary mark of 5 innings so he can qualify for the arbitrary pointless decisions that no one cares about and mean nothing...of course
its about maximizing the meaningful, important innings that your good pitchers pitch. what exactly is being accomplished by cliff lee pitching in this meaningless game. they could throw justin de frautus and mike stutes the rest of the way and win.
you are beyond help and im not going to discuss this....its preposterous and i think you even probably know it
lol lil guy gettin' his Beane on today.
Meanwhile...wtf
http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/philly/super-page/phillies-fan-chugs-beer-through-pearl-jam-t-shirt/
and theres the single
MACHINE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
lol lil guy gettin' his Beane on today.
yep
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 02, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/philly/super-page/phillies-fan-chugs-beer-through-pearl-jam-t-shirt/
ha
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2013, 03:04:56 PM
you are beyond help and im not going to discuss this....its preposterous and i think you even probably know it
think about it like this...cliff lee is your best pitcher and he appears in 1/5th of the games. does that make sense? 80% of the games he does not participate in. logistically why are pitchers used like this? wouldnt sprinkling them through more games, and handpicking more important spots, be a better use for them?
forget about what you grew up on. the baseball of the 1980s is dead and gone.
I wonder if he laments the W-L stats in his paper?
"Jose pitched and got the meaningless overrated stat known as a win for the Mexico High All-Stars. He threw 6 scoreless but let's not get wrapped up in arbitrary numbers. Meanwhile his team supported his with a stupendous BABIP this fine afternoon."
i dont mention records...nothing in the silly world of baseball stats is worse than records. even saves.
youve got to think about getting an edge. thats all moneyball was about. beane wasnt jerking it to babip and vorp and those other nerd stats of which i do not care. its about taking advantage of something that no one else is doing...doing something differently. baseball is remarkably unchanged since 1905 even though there are eons of data showing there are better ways to play the game.
did anyone catch who that chick was...she was fantastic
please bump david bell off the most recent list HOF so i dont ever have to hear his name anymore
Well well well....7-5
Typical. Was there any doubt?
if they dont win can they still win the world series?
Well maybe not...that's off the railing!
should have taken phifer out in the 4th inning so the brewers had five innings to come back instead of one and a third
in that situation you would probably bring in pettibone or someone of that ilk. its basically a constant mixing and matching based on the situation.
i never said the whole thing would work i just know cliff lee not playing in 80 percent of the games doesnt make any sense
these brewer announcers will not let the home run review go....they are acting like if it was ruled a hr they would have won the game....holy shtein shut up
whats funny is at the beginning of the game when talking about the kendrick play yesterday which actually would have tied the game in the bot 9 they brushed it off as basically "shtein happens"
Any doubt that basticho blows the lead?
And is there anything that Revere does even remotely well?
where in the world is that redneck paps
cliff lee isnt going to get the WIN
WINNING!
This is going to be hilarious to watch
i want them to lose so bad and not because i bet on the brewers
lol choke so scared of left field
dammit
Why is Papelbon not available?
Von Brown: Your NL player of the week (2nd consecutive) and NL player of the month.
and now hes finally hitting above delmon young in the lineup
hes truly made it now
Damn, I want to punch the Marlins announcers.
If its any consolation Geo, I ran downstairs to get some lunch. Come back to my computer to watch the game and eat and Heir Smugness is in the booth with Wheels and T Mac. Just lost my appetite.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 02, 2013, 04:38:45 PM
Why is Papelbon not available?
Apparently he was/is ill. Not as ill as we were watching Bast ardo yesterday.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 03, 2013, 07:26:17 PM
Damn, I want to punch the Marlins announcers.
The worst in the Majors, hands down. But hey...
AT LEAST WE HAVE FOX TRAX!
Rube cracking up in the booth with the boys as his assembled shtein fest is giving up a run. Pay attention and watch this crap you've dealt us you tool!
He's Joe Banner at this point. Just want him gone and get someone else in there to run it.
lol kendrick rips a triple to the gap. then revere knocks him in.
unreal.
Kendrick's offense > Choke
Quote from: Don Ho on June 03, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
If its any consolation Geo, I ran downstairs to get some lunch. Come back to my computer to watch the game and eat and Heir Smugness is in the booth with Wheels and T Mac. Just lost my appetite.
Thankfully, using my computer I can get LA/Franzke with the video. Except when the Phils play the Marlins, because I get blacked out and have to listen to the Marlins douchiness... :boom
My oh my...Dom!
HOFuego
VON BROWN!
HOfarg
also dont need the awful celebration losers....your team stinks and you are beating the marlins
Oh, and Preston Wilson is not a great addition to this broadcast team. I'm sure he's a great guy and he was a damn fine player, but Jesus Christ he's awful.
Yes this team blows ass but HOF is amazing to watch right now. Might as well enjoy this.
wow, the Marlins are awful.
without looking i want someone to tell me what kyle kendricks career record is
Quote from: MDS on June 03, 2013, 09:26:50 PM
without looking i want someone to tell me what kyle kendricks career record is
I'll try to think this through:
He started in what - 2007? Probably full-time in 2008.
Seems to average about 9-7 most of the time.
9x6 = 54
7x6 = 42
So I'll go with that - 54-42, probably about 4.20 to a 4.30 ERA or so.
2007, I was thinking the same thing maybe average 9 wins on the hight side. Not really in the rotation in 2011.
51-47
since 2011
kk
36 gs
17-15
3.45
1.2 whip
cg 3
heidi
43 gs
18-15
4.00
2.4 whip
cg 2
I really wish Checkers would stop trying to sell me cheesesteaks with swiss cheese on them.
hes now 60-45 for his career...geo almost on the money
wasnt it last year everyone hated him?
Yeah, he wasn't in the rotation, but I remember him pitching pretty well out of the pen that year. I also lumped in 2007 and this year as "one full year" in my figures.
That said, I don't know what's gotten into Kendrick this season, but he's one of the major reasons (along with Brown) the Phils are within hailing distance of .500, and even in the ZIP code of the lead of this miserable division (No, Igy, I do not think they have a shot).
Quote from: MDS on June 03, 2013, 09:55:09 PM
wasnt it last year everyone hated him?
ive always hated him and still do....hes a hate the face guy
gonna be interesting to see what the philles do with kendrick this fall...they will still control him but i wonder if roob gives him a long term deal...i suspect with the payroll the way it is they will avoid arbitration and come to an agreement on a one year deal giving the phillies one more peek at him to see if hes worth caking off long term
Just checked on Kendrick's baseball-reference page. Found it interesting that his number one similar player was Phil Hughes. Hughes has had a ton more press, probably simply because of the fact that he plays for the Yankees, but he also does have much better stuff. Both made their debuts in 2007; Kendrick is two years older.
Here are the totals thus far:
Kendrick: 60-45, 4.21 ERA (maybe a tad lower after today)
Hughes: 54-40, 4.48 ERA
Hughes had two high-win seasons (18 in 2010, 16 in 2012) and one season with a sub-4.00 ERA (neither of the big win seasons; it was in the year he spent in the bullpen). Other than the two big-win seasons, his highest total was eight (again, the year in the 'pen).
Kendrick has had one full season with an ERA over 5.00 (2008), and three with a sub-4.00 ERA. He's won 10 or more four times, but never more than 11 (three different times).
Also, since Opening Day 2011, Kendrick is 25-21, 3.54. Hughes is 23-22, 4.80.
I'm not sure I have a major point here, but I found the comparison interesting.
One more comparison - 2013 salaries:
Kyle Kendrick: $4.5 million
Phil Hughes: $7.1 million
when they make the playoff this year does kendrick start game 2 or game 3
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 03, 2013, 10:13:13 PM
gonna be interesting to see what the philles do with kendrick this fall...they will still control him but i wonder if roob gives him a long term deal...i suspect with the payroll the way it is they will avoid arbitration and come to an agreement on a one year deal giving the phillies one more peek at him to see if hes worth caking off long term
That's what I would do. Makes sense.
Quote from: MDS on June 03, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
when they make the playoff this year does kendrick start game 2 or game 3
will heidi even be in the rotation?
He will probably be busy adopting kids or organizing a fashion show.
so after they beat the reds in the 1st round
vs. stl
game 1- lee
game 2- kendrick
game 3- pettitbone
game 4- laanan
game 5- lee
does this work?
Looks good.
There's an outside shot of three Phillies pitchers making it to the All Star Game and two of them aren't named Hamels & Halladay. Also - a single position player might make it and his name isn't Rollins, Utley or Howard.
All this on a losing team that has been fairly awful all season long.
Go figure.
Quote from: Rome on June 04, 2013, 05:34:14 AM
There's an outside shot of three Phillies pitchers making it to the All Star Game and two of them aren't named Hamels & Halladay.
I'm pretty sure all the Phillies who make the All Star Game won't be named Hamels or Halladay.
or kendrick
Revere should make it. He's been pretty good.
one non pitcher since 1946 has more than 1000 AB and no homeruns....ben revere
three non pitchers since 1900 have 1000 AB and zero homers....one of them is ben revere
Heir Smugness strikes again!
why is ruben amaro german now?
They changed the family name at Ellis Island.
Quote from: MDS on June 04, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
why is ruben amaro german now?
He's not. People just assume he's German whenever he says things like "I hate jew." "Jew gotta problem?" "I'm gonna kill jew!"
Bob Davidson is awful. His call on Revere was a disgrace.
Mad props to the crowd for the inning long boo the crowd gave him. Beautiful. Love my city.
HA! Bob Davidson the second base ump is just getting crucified by the crowd for that horrible interference call. Pretty good shtein.
I'm actually quite proud of the crowd tonight.
Now a two inning boo.
Awesome.
HOF, ouch. Bad swing.
Yeah he had the 3-0 green light and chose poorly.
Wheels' latest things to harp on (add it to "no doubles defense" and "middle in") is head first slides. He's been yapping about them for a week and even more so tonight. His awfulness amuses me.
Still booing....
Antonio basticho is doing a nice Mitch Williams impression.
Quit walking people, jerkoff.
Goddamn does basticho just suck.
Oh Jesus farging Christ! Wild pitch.
This inning is just disgusting.
Lead off walk
Choke fields a bunt rather than let it go foul
Pierre steals third
Antonio Wild Thing wild pitch
And wheels with another head first slide comment.
Now a double.
Boooooo
the phillies are so farging dumb. i think it comes from the manager.
John Goddamn Mayberry
Holy farging shtein!!
MAAAyberry!!
Triple farging a berry!
triple motherfargin a
that pitch was brutal. that's why they're the marlins
farg YOU MLB.COM! Son of a farg goes to commercial and locks up. Find out AAA homered when buddy texted me.
Nice flashback vid of Jimmy walkin it off in 2010.
Caught a glimpse of our boy, Don.
The one and only Dangerous Dane Sardinha!
So do they walk 'em loaded or what?
Honestly they're probably best off just going after Choke, but no one's looking to extend a Marlins game.
If they would have walked them loaded they PH Lee or Kendrick. I like their chances.
Choke has one bomb in his last 86 PA
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 04, 2013, 10:22:43 PM
Nice flashback vid of Jimmy walkin it off in 2010.
Caught a glimpse of our boy, Don.
The one and only Dangerous Dane Sardinha!
That I did see! Wonder where that clown is now? My wife works with his aunt.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 04, 2013, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 04, 2013, 10:22:43 PM
Nice flashback vid of Jimmy walkin it off in 2010.
Caught a glimpse of our boy, Don.
The one and only Dangerous Dane Sardinha!
That I did see! Wonder where that clown is now? My wife works with his aunt.
Probably drinking some rum and coke
Come on, MAAAyberry. Be the hero... twice!
MAAAAyberry!
Holy farg! Maaaaaaaaaaaaaayberry!!! Walk off slam!
The marlins ibb'd Galvis .... Why?
HOLY farg, that i saw!
Wow.
Last walk off slam? Kim Batiste in 1993.
Since Wednesday is another attempt at .500, can we expect zero run support for the first five or so innings followed by a Hamels collapse?
Guaranteed.
the detachment from reality of these last 2 pages is breathtaking
lets go team get to .500 tomorrow! you can do it!
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the marlins turds were talking about 8 men out the last inning
still better than wheeler and tmac
i wanted phils ml today so bad as you knew heidi was going to rebound against the marlins but it was just to huge
lol preston wilson is the train wreck of train wrecks
how many times would you guess choke has been in a 3-1 count this year?
20
yeah i would have said much higher than it is
12 is the answer
and hes 2-12 with 0 rbi
so hes not very good at baseball?
four years ago he would have had like 12 IBB by now
maybe hof brown should try taking a pitch or two
maybe jimmy should try being less godly
so how crazy a carom did that ball take for choke to make it to third
farging HOF.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
so how crazy a carom did that ball take for choke to make it to third
Ball did a figure 8 pattern as that is the only way he makes it to third.
did it really do something weird?
im on gamecast at work so i cant see
IGY, what happened was the RF made a stupid dive for the ball and it was a slow roller to the wall from there.
Basically Marlins being the Marlins.
.500 baby!
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Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
did it really do something weird?
im on gamecast at work so i cant see
Ozuna dove for the ball and missed.
The Marlins replay is on right now, and I kid you not, they spent an entire 1/2 inning talking to Preston Wilson about his eating fried chicken and donuts at the stadium.
i havent had the stadium location yet but federal donuts is incredible....im not sure a half inning is enough
Oh, I agree about the chicken and donuts. I'd eat that until I exploded.
Just thought it was funny that they didn't really bother actually broadcasting the game. I can't blame them, though. The Marlins really are dreadful.
So yea, tonight's the draft. Get fired up
The Phils are probably taking a high school SS or 1B at #16. See ya in 2019
Among the prospects available to be drafted:
-- Amaro's nephew (who the Phils took 4 years ago out of HS)
-- Moyer's son
-- Tommy Greene's son
-- Lidge's cousin
-- Todd Jones' son
-- Paul Quantrill's son
Quote from: Rome on June 05, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
Oh, I agree about the chicken and donuts. I'd eat that until I exploded.
Just thought it was funny that they didn't really bother actually broadcasting the game. I can't blame them, though. The Marlins really are dreadful.
tommy hutton is one of the worst people on earth
he was shrieking...literally shrieking...on the revere double play last night. whining that revere should be out anyway because he slid head first. then they spent endless time bullshteinting with preston wilson and his inaccurate stories about cbp. its amazing how bad they are.
and they're STILL better than tmac and wheeler.
they are better than a lot of people
by my count they are the 3rd worse...only phillies and nationals are below them
keep in mind hawk harrelson is off the charts, off the reservation bad but that what makes him awesome.
When Seager hit that GS for Seattle yesterday Hawk responded with like a minute of dead air.
I died laughing
No you didn't
no one here is allowed to be on the brownwagon. i was the only one who was a true believer, everyone else is just a fake.
#truefan
off the top of my head the yankees royals white sox phillies nationals pirates rays and indians are all worse than the marlins
maybe its just a lack of consistent exposure to them but the royals pirates rays and indians do nothing for me. certainly not good but not irritating to the point i want to strangle someone like i do when listening to tommy hutton cry for 3 hours
i actually like michael kay in the same way i love hawk..hes so terrible and reaping with arrogance its kind of entertaining.
kay is not bad....the rest of the yankees crew is beyond hideous
hawk is downright despicable
i dont really get the hate of the marlins guys...they are somwhere middle of the pack for me...i dont really even notice them until romey goes off and then i really concentrate and i still find nothing that would put them anywhere close to phillies or nats or any of the truly horrible booths in the league
I have to listen to them when the Phillies are playing. You understand that, right? I'm in the Marlins home territory so if I want to watch the Phillies I have to listen to those dipshteins.
And for someone who espouses such a deep hatred of all things "homer" it's truly perplexing to me that you don't mind Rich Waltz, because he's the worst homer broadcaster in the history of sports.
yeah i watch them against the phillies all the time too on the package...as well every once in a while at other times
waltz is a homer but no more or less than anyone else and tommy hutton is actually pro phillie....having played there and being dick ruthvens brother in law...hes constantly talking about the city the team and the fans in a positive manner...in fact if there were any marlin fans to get upset they should be pissed at him during phillie series
Anyone else having issues with mlb.tv tonight? I keep getting error messages.
phillies had six baserunners and one rbi in the inning
phillies got the best shortstop in the draft...another brother in the organization....i love this franchise...carl crawfords cousin...best friends with the mets first round pick...god jimmy is one of his idols
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1643083-jp-crawford-prospect-profile-full-draft-scouting-report-for-ss-prospect
Their third pick from that HS...Shane Watson and d'Arnaud came from there too.
Hahahaha
Brewers 2B...nice throw
excuse my ignorance, this is probably something i knew at one point but have since forgotten, but if that kid is committed to USC, does that mean he has to pick between the phillies and college? or can he do both, like they still have him after college.
cannot do both...all in with the phils or he goes back into next years draft
i knew that.
has a phillie corner outfielder made a catch this year where they looked fully comfortable
No.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 06, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
has a phillie corner outfielder made a catch this year where they looked fully comfortable
No. And Revere doesn't instill much confidence in me, either.
revere can catch he just takes some unusal paths in getting to the ball....but once hes there hes golden...the other guys look like a right fielder in softball
did delmon have trouble with the sun on that one?
You do understand how hard it is to play ball in a comfortable, controlled enviornment don't you?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 06, 2013, 09:09:31 PM
cannot do both...all in with the phils or he goes back into next years draft
have to wait 3 years....ive got a kid i cover down here who was going to go 6th roundish at worst but was only taking the $ if he went top 2 rounds (he didnt). instead hes going to texas.
they can enter after their jr year and then go back as a senior if they dont sign. they can also go to juco out of high school and re enter the draft after 1 or 2 years. its a tricky system.
From everything Ive read Crawford will sign. Like 99.9% lock.
Btw... 5 straight. These iceholes are gonna make it interesting.
5 wins over two minor league teams and look at what we got now...ROME IS BACK!
Some of the wins have been fun. MAAAyberry's hr and GS in extras the other day was great. Even if the season is a total wash, you can still have fun with it and be excited over stuff like that. Great thing about the baseball season being so long is that you can actually enjoy the few bright spots during the year without it being an actual threat to the big picture.....which is them sucking and being sellers with Utley, Howard (lolz), Doc and Lee and any other piece of garbage that some other team is dumb enough to take.
It's not like football where a 4 game winning streak can kill your chances at a high draft pick like the Eagles at the end of 2011.
Nothing good can come from them being terrible this year.
They can sell Lee to the highest bidder but they're not going to get any better by it either now or even next year. Might as well just enjoy the wins and continue to be indifferent about the losses.
Quote from: MDS on June 07, 2013, 02:20:14 PM
5 wins over two minor league teams and look at what we got now...ROME IS BACK!
have they beaten anyone this year other than the mets marlins or brewers?
Who fargin cares? You pricks are so miserable and cynical about everything you can't enjoy anything. I know they aren't doing shtein title-wise, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy Brown busting out or Lee dominating or whatever good happens in a given night.
Seriously, if you can't offer anything but constant bullshtein in this thread, just stay out of it, the both of you.
Rome is tellling you whippersnappers to get our of his section at the stadium.
Win or lose, Lee pitching a gem or HOF on a hot streak, all I know is Micahel Young sucks as a thid baseman.
nice piece of hitting by lolmon
man kratz extended the arms there
Definitely just heard someone yell "my cork is so big!" in the background of the Phils broadcast :-D
HOF = horrible out fielder
C'mon Dom! Jumped to early. Can't let a tool like Yuniesky Betancourt beat you.
Thanks to Havas' comment the other night I now am drawn to plays by corner OFs like a moth to a flame.
what on earth was freddy g thinking
Good ol' lead off walk bites um in the ass.
great at bat HOF
my god hes bad
Yes he is. Horrible.
anyone want to take a stab at defending old ass uncle dumbfarg for using his 2nd worst reliever in the most important part of the game?
he first off had a short bullpen. but then hes using stutes...who can be extended and has been good...for 2 outs and for the bottom of the order. then he brings in the lefty horst and lets him run through the dangerous part of the RIGHT HANDED brewers lineup.
the logical thing to do would have been to use horst in the 8th and papelbon in the 9th. yes it defies nonsense by the book nonsensical baseball logic, but then again, you wouldnt be saving your best reliever for a situation that never arose.
edit: or cliff lee could not have blown a 4-0 lead. first time hes done that, right?
For the love of God why and how is Jeremy corksucking Horst in the major leagues? I had to head out to a graduation party so I only saw the first out of the ninth. Thank goodness. Wasn't even shocked when I checked the score. Seriously can they not find anything better? Guy is a farging disaster.
Quote from: MDS on June 08, 2013, 01:37:01 AM
anyone want to take a stab at defending old ass uncle dumbfarg for using his 2nd worst reliever in the most important part of the game?
he first off had a short bullpen. but then hes using stutes...who can be extended and has been good...for 2 outs and for the bottom of the order. then he brings in the lefty horst and lets him run through the dangerous part of the RIGHT HANDED brewers lineup.
the logical thing to do would have been to use horst in the 8th and papelbon in the 9th. yes it defies nonsense by the book nonsensical baseball logic, but then again, you wouldnt be saving your best reliever for a situation that never arose.
edit: or cliff lee could not have blown a 4-0 lead. first time hes done that, right?
i wont fully excuse phifer but why on gods earth did charlie let him bat for himself when he was at 115 pitches....one of the dumbest things ive seen him do in a while
I actually yelled out loud when I saw that, IGY. I promise myself I won't get upset at that dipshtein's retarded decisions but I end up yelling at the television anyway.
adams is hurt again (nice job rube) and they were staying away from de fratus and basticho. so making lee throw 1000 pitches was the gameplan.
also in the game gameplan: not using your best relief pitcher
DomBomb
And then Mayberry gets robbed of a HR
Damnit! Blacked out here. Of course I turn the radio broadcast on and Wheels is in the booth.
Me too. Don't think we're missing much.
Correct. Bums down 3-1 top 7th to these hacks.
Nix batting .205 and hasn't had a hit since May 19. Waive Horst and put him in the bullpen.
might wanna put those postseason plans on hold homers
how come this whole milwaukee series has been in sd
only this offense could get three hits in an inning and not score
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2013, 02:03:02 PM
how come this whole milwaukee series has been in sd
HD's been on mlb.tv. Of course, I didn't get last night's game at all due to a Fox blackout.
theyre about to lose 3 in a row to brewers, including 2 games started by their 2 best pitchers and one where they faced only the bullpen
this team is pretty good, right?
they are who we thought they were
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
i think they are a .500 team more or less
83 wins
no matter what happens its going to be pure comedy gold watching the defense this year
the worst part of this game is kyle lohse's free win against this pos team is going to cost me a W in fantasy
disgraceful. finally a philly loss truly matters in this world and it costs me, of course
This is stating the obvious again but why is Jeremy Horst anywhere near this team right now? And LOL at Papelbon pitching in an 8-1 slaughter. Seriously, if nothing else happens good this year and Cholly gets sent packing, I'd be fine.
i thought youre only supposed to use your closer on the road in a save situation? THAT WASNT A SAVE SITUATION!
i like how brookover described papelbon: a porsche on a 162 game ride to nowhere.
im the last person to ever defend chuckles but that cranial lump paplebon hadnt pitched in five days and they dont play tommorow
i know...its a joke because chuckles mcdumbass refused to bring papelbon in in the 9th inning friday, which cost them the game
but its good that his best reliever got to pitch once in this series...in the 8th inning of a blowout. way to use that talent!
It was a "get some work" moment for sure. I wasn't trying to tie his appearance to Cholly's idiocy, though. Just thought it was funny that a fifty million dollar closer was in there for mop up duty.
Better than having a fifty million dollar closer just sitting on the bench every game scratching his balls.
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/amaro-talks-struggles-lee-zambrano-and-others
a few more of these and we just might see a season ticket holder revolt ed wade style
Should I start looking for my old catching gear?
QuoteRuben Amaro Jr.'s offseason plan consisted of this: Get the Phillies' core players healthy, hope they produce, add some complementary pieces, fix the eighth inning, and make a push at returning to the postseason before Father Time catches up with the club and some key players' contracts run out.
It's that simple.
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/amaro-talks-struggles-lee-zambrano-and-others
a few more of these and we just might see a season ticket holder revolt ed wade style
its everyone elses fault....all the players he acquired "have not played up to expectations"......whose expectations?
ryan howard, circa 2005, didnt magically return in 2013
its his fault
Ruin Amaro Jr
What a shock. Bums tie it up and two of the bullpens finest rise to the occasion. Adams is as bad as the whole lot.
oh boy what happened here?
has everyone given up...rome...j...don...sd...SUNNY?
Quote from: MDS on June 12, 2013, 01:50:10 AM
oh boy what happened here?
has everyone given up...rome...j...don...sd...SUNNY?
Homers gave up on 10/07/11 just after 11:00 PM EST.
I've been laid up with a bad knee, actually. Torn meniscus. Arthroscopic surgery is scheduled for Wednesday of next week.
Pain sucks.
Offensive zestynauts
3.09 runs a game on the road...worst in the bigs
Antonio Bast ardo....go murder yourself you meatball throwing farg.
What a farging disaster.
Seriously....farg this hunk of shtein ball club.
Not hitting, not scoring, the bullpen reeks of shtein and none of them can get anyone out.
Sorry farging pieces of shtein.
Hahaha
Wild pitch and they take the lead
I hate this team.
There's got to be some bullpen arm in AAA that can do better than all of these POS pitchers
nice effort from J dusting off his 2006 freak out gear but it aint working
you gotta love charlie...by the book to the bitter end...dipping down into the loogy well one last time, hoping The Book has the answers. meanwhile its been over a week since papelbon pitched a meaningful inning.
if smug doesnt conduct a firesale at the deadline im going to be as mad at a philly sports team as i have been in long time
If he does it he'll get robbed by other GMs and we'll get to look at solid prospects like Philipe Aumont, JC Ramirez, Tyson Gillies and Tommy Joseph for years
but at least he will have tried....my fear is that in his mind it will be an admission of failure on his part if he blows it up and thus his ego doesnt allow him to do it
i was calling for it last trade deadline....if he doesnt do it this time im gonna blow my stack
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2013, 11:14:41 PM
There's got to be some bullpen arm in AAA that can do better than all of these POS pitchers
Nope, you've seen them already. Aumont, Diekman, Rosenberg, Valdes. The only other viable options are JC Ramirez (2-2, over 7.00 ERA in 19 appearances, almost 2:1 K/BB) and Justin Friend (3-1, almost 4.50 ERA in 19 appearances, almost 1:1 K/BB), with Mauricio Robles as a longshot (and he just came up from Reading recently)
Cloyd sent down, Diekman comes up and will meet the team in Denver tomorrow
Lannan starts Monday against the Nats
after sitting on the bench doing nothing for a week and a half, amaro sent down cesar hernandez and called up michael martinez
the disconnect between incompetent management and the incompetent manager is full on display right there. and the incompetent president wont doing anything about it.
god damnit i missed these days. when is matt beech making his debut?
What the farging farg do they need that worthless cum stain Mike Mike for?
He hit .464 in AAA, dude.
FO SIX FO!
SELL SELL SELL
Watching these funholes try to score is comical.
12 LOB in six innings and a guy thrown out by four miles at home.
I was counting down until your response J. farging Michael Young. WTF? He was out by a mile and than some.
10 hits, 1 run. Go O Go!
J if you were on an island for the rest of your life and you had to spend it with 1 person would you rather it be: donovan or charlie
J if you were on an island for the rest of your life and you had to spend it with 1 person would you rather it not be: kotite or amaro
Oooh interesting questions!
I'd rather chill with Chuck. He's got stories for days.
I'd rather not chill with Smug. I'd drown myself. Of he'd try to trade me to some pirates for supplies to be named later.
farged by a blown call.
Who gives a shtein?
farging shteinbags can't score anyway.
Jesus farging christ.
Sure T Mac, Revere just missed that.
I knew they could do it! 15 farging hits and three runs.
choke has no bat speed left....its actually sad at this point
Watch Papsmear give up a walk off to Jamey Carroll
lee after the game basically asked out
somewhere the homers are sobbing...DONT BLOW IT UP. ONE MORE CHANCE!
16 hits and 3 runs.
Comically awful.
Turn back the clock
kendrick was awful. the bullpen was good, the offense rallied for a win....HELLO 2007
lol what a fielding display by Howard, Quintero, and M Young
Jeremy Horst and the batting cage of Coors Field, oh yeah, that will
always end well.
does heidi literally cry if he loses this 1-0
rockie announcers are really good....really underrated
you have to admit its really funny they cant score a single run for him
the problem with heidi is he never wins 1-0 or 2-1...hes always the pitcher in the pitching duel that blinks first....or last
yeah the media and phils fans are worse than phil himself
so funny seeing a gapper that should def be a single become a no brainer double because of ben reveres arm
glancing through his game logs hes about a .500 pitcher in those situations, which is probably the best any pitcher will do since those 1-0 2-1 games can get really random
those gamrs being all losses this year is just a combination of bad luck and a bad team
its an utterly meaningless move but charlie pinch hitting for quintero there was monumentally retarded
so he hits for the zesty catcher, with 2 outs and and no one on down by 3 in the 8th. now lets say they rally in the 9th. lets say the bases are loaded with 2 outs and youre down 1. and guess who HAS to hit because you dont have any catchers left? steven lerud.
again, not gonna matter because lord knows this team isnt coming back but charlie and logic and reason dont exactly mesh, do they?
Thank god golf is on.
And Todd, you are correct, logic and this organization do not mesh.
Quote from: MDS on June 16, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
its an utterly meaningless move but I'm going to write 2 more paragraphs about it anyway.
nothing stops from me ranting on manuel being a dumbass
NOTHING
I feel the same way about you, little fella.
Trade anything of value.
did anyone read the postgame quotes from sunday? theyve completely given up. jimmy the frontrunner wants out...lee is begging for a trade...hamels hates his life...howard checked out after the injury and is just waiting for mansion in florida to be done...utley jesus what the farg.
end this pos team please
What did Jimmy say
QuoteJimmy Rollins was even less convincing after Saturday's loss to the Rockies. He was asked if he believed the Phils would ever stop taking two steps back for every step forward.
"That will be answered at some point," he said.
sounds like someone who doesnt give two fargs of a shtein at this point, which is typical for him when things arent going well.
just saw that the cardinals might have interest in papelbon. trevor rosenthal please.
Smug said earlier today that the sharks are in the water and he has no intention of selling low.
I actually agree with him. He should have no say whatsoever in the future of that team and should be shteincanned ASAP.
I'll take Rosenthal, Wacha, or Martinez.
JP Crawford is in town to sign, talk to the media and get a half inning of abuse from TMac
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 17, 2013, 03:16:39 PM
and get a half inning of abuse from TMac
HA! Classic.
Paging Mr Havas, Mr Havas to the white courtesy phone
Quote@tmoorepburbs: #Phillies Amaro: 'I don't think blowing things up, so to speak, is the way to go for us.'
i dont think amaro continuing to breathe is the right way to go for me
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 17, 2013, 06:11:29 PM
Paging Mr Havas, Mr Havas to the white courtesy phone.
I actually spit Hawaiian Punch thru my nose reading this.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 17, 2013, 06:11:29 PM
Paging Mr Havas, Mr Havas to the white courtesy phone
Quote@tmoorepburbs: #Phillies Amaro: 'I don't think blowing things up, so to speak, is the way to go for us.'
It's kind of a meaningless quote when you read the whole thing. I did find this funny though:
QuoteOn the Red Sox being a model for retooling: "It's a little different in their case, because they had players at the Major League level with large contracts that people still wanted, and that may not be the case for us.
So the Phillies are full of players with big contracts who no one wants? How'd that happen, Rube?
nobody wants humberto quintero?
paps
All ya can do it laugh...
Bases loaded b8 and get nothing
Papsmear gives up a 2o 2s homer to Chad Tracy
Tied.
Booooo
you gotta go back to the 8th inning for that
they are so bad and have to play two separate lineups...one late game one early game. so mayberry is up with 2 on and 0 out and hes your best chance for an rbi because galvis, quintero and nix are on deck
now howard is out of the game, so is brown, so is frandsen. theyve used 4 relievers because laanan went just 5.
bad things happen to bad baseball teams
homer aside how stupid was it to use papelbon vs the bottom of the order and adams for the middle? this is what im talking about when i rail against the use of "closers."
i think AAAberry would be 4th or 5th on the nationals in rbi...their offense is worse than the phillies
fun fact: steve lerud is due up 4th now because hes the last man on the bench
CHARLIE MANUEL!
I don't think Brown is out of the game....Todd with his crazy info again.
If the Phils get a hit or a Sac fly here, Paps gets the all important W
where my boy havas at
you still want mendoza heyward now BITCH
paps is a top ten annoying guy
Quote from: MDS on June 17, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
where my boy havas at
you still want mendoza heyward now BITCH
of course
I think HOF told Todd to suck it as he was walking it off.
i wanted hof to start 2 years ago...i like the kid
other, more portly people who reside in murlind, want a player with a robust 673 ops...i wont name names but hes someone you might know
lol
Btw Revere has been half decent the last six weeks or so
HOF is a cornball.....you can have him
ill take god jimmy
Cornball Brotha II?!
Jimmy The Pimp is one of the four on a Phils Mt Rushmore.
dont get me wrong hes no where near the bedwetter....hes just not the kind of guy thats ever gonna be a favorite of mine....i feel about him the way i feel about utley...i like him but hes like my least favorite phille of the guys i dont dislike
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 17, 2013, 10:28:27 PM
lol
Btw Revere has been half decent the last six weeks or so
His batting stats are now almost up to the level of a very low tier modern professional baseball player. The Phils should market him as a throwback to the dead ball era.
hes like a 8 hole terrible hitting shortstop in the 70's who played because of his defense...cept his defense isnt very good and like 90% of his at bats this year have come at the top of the order
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2013, 10:38:48 PM
dont get me wrong hes no where near the bedwetter....hes just not the kind of guy thats ever gonna be a favorite of mine....i feel about him the way i feel about utley...i like him but hes like my least favorite phille of the guys i dont dislike
yeah but you don't like anyone on the team other than rollins i believe.
i love choke....then theres four or five other guys i like...but they are all batters.....the pitching staff is supremely unlikeable
howard has the same version of aloofness that brown has to me.
lee and utley are basically the same person. i love halladay but he's RIP.
halladay and lee arent even phillies to me
utey won a championship in the city which automatically elevates him way above a lee...if lee was a lifetime phillie im sure id like him a lot right now
lee blowing the 4-0 lead = death row for life
True about Lee, 4-0 is a score that will live in infamy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2013, 10:46:12 PM
hes like a 8 hole terrible hitting shortstop in the 70's who played because of his defense...cept his defense isnt very good and like 90% of his at bats this year have come at the top of the order
Give him a Jerhi Curl and we've got the new Steve Jeltz.
I hope ryan Sandberg is a better Manager than he is a third base coach. WTF sending D. Young on that single by Cliff Lee? He did it last week with Michael Young. Not to bright.
brutal at bat by HOF
What a farging lucky 2 run single by Frandsen
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 18, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
brutal at bat by HOF
Yeah that 2-1 fastball he watched should've been crushed all the way to Delaware Ave.
lol a stand up for choke
Oh man that's painful to watch.
old HOF is back
Yep, crash landing tonight.
:CF The thrill of victory and the agony of reading about it.
Unbelievable how bad this team is. I mean the Nats. Every thinking man had a pretty good idea what the Phils were when this season started.
Oh yeah, the Nationals suck ass this season. They're a notch above the shtein show we see every night.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 19, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
Oh yeah, the Nationals suck ass this season. They're a notch above the shtein show we see every night.
Not even:
Phils: 35-37
Nats: 34-36
Where my Nattitude boys Havas and Todd at?
How's that 100 win squad lookin?
there was no logical piece of evidence to suggest theyd be this bad. sometimes things just are in baseball, no explaining for it. this is one of them.
meanwhile you look and they are 7 back of atlanta with 5 series left head to head against them. homers...who ya want at the deadline? alex rios? LETS DO THIS!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 19, 2013, 12:21:05 AM
Where my Nattitude boys Havas and Todd at?
How's that 100 win squad lookin?
havas will man up...the other Hoyda will make excuses. See above.
nationals def arent where i thought theyd be but j has the phillies at 90+ wins and in the playoffs which is a far worse call
Not really - why? Because I'm Super Homer remember!
because the phillies are awful on paper and in reality
the nats at least on paper are stacked
Holy christ you're ridiculous.
Maikel Franco got promoted to AA which is big.
20 yr old, 3B who was hitting .299 at clearwater, with 16 hr and 52 rbi, .925 OPS....damn
5 errors in 64 games at 3b
Quote from: SD on June 19, 2013, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 19, 2013, 12:21:05 AM
Where my Nattitude boys Havas and Todd at?
How's that 100 win squad lookin?
havas will man up...the other Hoyda will make excuses. See above.
its not an excuse...i dont even know what that means.
the nats were awesome last year and every piece of evidence suggested theyd be even better this year. why its not happening is something only the philliest of homers would have predicted, and done so merely out of false hope.
and unlike havas im actually quite happy theyre terrible.
I can't say I'm overly surprised that the Nats took a step back this year. They still have some good young talent and I think they'll be in the thick of it over the next several seasons.
Signing Haren was a mistake, though. He seems to be cooked.
I'm shocked they've been awful. I thought they were a 95-100 win team, but as I said a few months ago, things can go really wrong all at once and it's happened to them.
thanks bank
I already love this Crawford kid.
paps
Nice job Galvis. Great throw to start this shtein.
you have to wonder what chuckles was thinking taking kendrick out when he did...pretty inexplicable
Honestly, I don't even think about his actions any more. The few brain cells I have left cannot be waisted on this clown and his decisions. That was a ridiculous move.
God, er ah I mean Chooch should have had that one.
What the hell, I go put my kids to bed and Papelbon blows the save. He must hate him some Nationals.
Now we've got to hope one of these idiots can actually tag one and score the winning run before one of the bum arms falls apart.
Paps trade value has dropped the past two nights. Some of those Cardinals prospects looked so good too.
I feel for KK. Pitches probably one of the best games of his career and the redneck goes and blows it.
No worries. Mikey Mart's got this.
:-D
Quote from: Don Ho on June 19, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
The few brain cells I have left cannot be waisted on this clown and his decisions.
I concur.
Martinez shouldn't be the 125th man on your roster let alone your 25th.
Nice to see Papsmear blow another one. How long before the rumors of elbow tightness or bicep soreness start?
farging cockgobbler.
he shouldnt have been in the game...kendrick is cruising in the 8th having gotten the first two outs on a weak grounder and a strikeout...and then at 92 pitches is inexplicably pulled for the odb...which then led to paps third appearance in three nights in the 9th
maybe kk chokes it in the 9th but maybe he continues to cruise......or maybe he gets two outs with a man or two on and paps comes in where he only has to get one batter....whatever the possibilities pulling kendrick was absolutely assinine
No worries. Stutes' got this.
:boom
the nationals announcers are beyond farging awful
Cholly pulls that shtein all the time. He's a clusterfarg of a manager who flies by the seat of his pants and uses his "gut" to make decisions. Dude's a fossil.
First fire Smug then shove that old bastich out the door behind him.
Clean slate.
lololol
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 19, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
you have to wonder what chuckles was thinking taking kendrick out when he did...pretty inexplicable
in the 8th it was retarded and useless. in the 9th it made sense. papelbon is your 50 million dollar closer, its a 1 run game you go to him. he can pitch 3 days in a row, its not abnormal. he just didnt get it done. oh well. no meathead douche fistpumps tonight.
bigger issue is the bats quitting midway through the first. and the fact that they have 3 people on their bench (galvis, quintero, mike mike) who cannot hit for shtein, and that 2 people in their lineup need to be taken out for defense, which limits late inning pinch hitting options. thats all a part of why theyre farging terrible and why games like this no longer bother me.
they are what they are and im well past the point of being over it.
Which is why you post this over... and over... and over... and over... again.
geo whats up young brother
hows its?
Quote from: MDS on June 19, 2013, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 19, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
you have to wonder what chuckles was thinking taking kendrick out when he did...pretty inexplicable
in the 8th it was retarded and useless. in the 9th it made sense. papelbon is your 50 million dollar closer, its a 1 run game you go to him.
not when your starter is cruising and your closer has pitched the previous two nights and not looked good...it was overmanaging 101...in fact ill go even as far as to say that if paplebon hadnt pitched the two nights before there was no need to change there...its simple minded thinking that you have to bring in your closer because he makes a lot of money that is one of the bumblefargs biggest problems
and if he doesnt bring papelbon in and kendrick gives up a homer...then youre whining about that
of all the things to complain about uncle dumbfarg, and good god there are plenty, this aint one.
Quote from: MDS on June 20, 2013, 02:03:08 PM
and if he doesnt bring papelbon in and kendrick gives up a homer...then youre whining about that
absolutely not
in my second scenario that would be valid....had paplebon not pitched the previous two nights then theres an argument
but to take out a pitcher on a relatively low pitch count who is in a groove because the closer makes more money than him is idiocy...you bring in the closer if you think he gives you a better chance....last night that clearly wasnt the case
the 3 nights in a row thing isnt an issue...he threw something like 25 pitches combined monday and tuesday. he was fine. he just pitched poorly. relief pitchers can easily go 3, 4 days in a row. they do it all the time.
and i dont know why there is even debate. this is one loss of 90something theyll have this year. big farging deal.
its the move that kills me because it was so agregious....the loss that stemmed from it doesnt matter
egregious
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2013, 02:55:28 PM
its the move that kills me because it was so agregious....the loss that stemmed from it doesnt matter
Exactly. I didn't hear any of Charlies post game comments but I'm sure they were priceless. 92 farging pitches! KK by no means looked gassed or tired. Wheeler was saying that Charlie saw Tracy getting ready to bat and he had hit 3 homers in his last 5 pinch hit at bats so he got Adams ready. Nats counter with Marrero. Einstein counters with Bast ardo. Seeing Bast ardo trot out there in a 2-1 game was quite comforting.
Bringing in that combustible Tony B was what pissed me off. He didn't get lit but KK should have stayed in for that batter.
Papsmear? First time he'd blown two in the same series in like 4 years or something.
If Galvis makes a good throw on that grounder they get Span and win.
That throw by Galvis was autrocious. Yes it glanced off a diving Choke's glove but he's got to make that.
wow
Quote
In the 28 games Chase Utley missed Phillies 2B hit .179 with a .250 OBP and ONE extra-base hit.
:-D. The farging Mets.
mets and phils will be tied in the loss column sunday nite
and dont look now but the nats have three legit aces going wild and are about to make a huge run
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 21, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
mets and phils will be tied in the loss column sunday nite
and dont look now but the nats have three legit aces going wild and are about to make a huge run
Nats love gone wild
lol hamels has 11 losses already...most for a phillie at this point since like 1937 or something
hes been really unlucky at points and of course that bad luck and lack of run support has led to him being bitchy and pouty on the levels we havent seen since the heyday of mcnabb...but tonight was disgusting
hes spotted a 3-0 lead against THE METS and blows it. good god. go away you vagina.
he gave them a championship with a month long out of body experience....i dont know how he did it but he did and that's all that matters....at least let hope it is because his contract is scary
Wait. You posted something that wasn't entirely negative. Are you okay? Did you maybe bump your head on something?
besides hof brown, name 1 thing to be positive about with this team
oh wait, dumbass mcdumbfarg is in the last year of his deal
The food is pretty good at the stadium. I like the road uni's too.
Ryan Howard loves him some Gee.
This team is trash.
shtein SHOW!
Bums went from getting something respectable for Papsmear to getting a bag of used towels if their lucky in four days.
Stupid hick
Quote from: Don Ho on June 22, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
Bums went from getting something respectable for Papsmear to getting a bag of used towels if their lucky in four days.
What are you talking about, man? Paps got the win! We all know how important that stat is!
Frandsen saves that ass face Papsmear.
While they're kicking people during the celebration, please kick Heidi in his vagina and Papsmear in his head until his eyes roll back.
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 22, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 22, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
Bums went from getting something respectable for Papsmear to getting a bag of used towels if their lucky in four days.
What are you talking about, man? Paps got the win! We all know how important that stat is!
HA! I was thinking the same thing. That dufess is going to get the win after that wonderful pitching performance.
Nice hit by Frandsen to end it.
Can't put that whole blown save on Papelbon. Yeah, he gave up a homer, but that's not what tied the game. Boot by Young, bad luck/good hit and run on Rollins, and I don't know what the farg was going on with Revere.
Burp
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 22, 2013, 07:30:40 PM
Nice hit by Frandsen to end it.
Can't put that whole blown save on Papelbon. Yeah, he gave up a homer, but that's not what tied the game. Boot by Young, bad luck/good hit and run on Rollins, and I don't know what the farg was going on with Revere.
IGY made this call before the season started and I thought he was blowing it out of proportion but damn he was right on. Young is just atrocious defensively.
Statistically, Young is a little better than average in fielding percentage. Where he hurts the Phils is his lack of range.
another abortion underway but at least its the mets announcers so theres that
Quote from: MDS on June 23, 2013, 02:53:04 PM
another abortion underway but at least its the mets announcers so theres that
they are just phenominal
Another nice effort out there today, Phils. Really professional.
harvey>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>heidi
ben revere needs to fall off a cliff
Haven't watched a game in several days.
Feels good.
they absolutely mailed it in today...knew they had no chance lannan vs. harvey and just wanted to get this over with so they could get on the plane to san diego
jimmy especially. he looked like he wanted to be any place else.
Frandsen hitting 5th? I don't know who should be fired from a cannon first - Amaro or Manuel.
Good grief.
they got their 1 run...cy lee gonna take it from here
bad thing is they used up their run for the series so when i go wednesday im gonna see a shutout loss
You're going to SD for a Phils roadie? And didn't invite your boy? I'm hurt.
Frandsen is playing because Choke's knee is hurting. I'm cool with him hitting fifth because quite frankly he's the one hitter I trust to drive the ball and make contact right now.
Lee is going to throw a no-no tonight.
Great job there, J.
Haha shtein!
I was trying buck the superstition.
I had no sooner read the post when I looked at the TV and watch the ball go into right field.
One hit shutout coming up?!
Ruiz 2-for-2 on two of the softest hits of the year.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 24, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
You're going to SD for a Phils roadie? And didn't invite your boy? I'm hurt.
its gonna be nerd central on this trip...trust me you dont want to go. im not even flying into iah to connect. dfw boy.
im not even sure if im going to doyer stadium. we just wanna see petco. though my boy yasiel puig will be there so maybe...
You gotta go to Doyer Stadium and get one of those Yasiel Sabe shirts.
maybe we go saturday to see lee, since hes the only one who can pitch. if i sit in the of bleachers i need to brush up on my mexican gang knowledge.
get to see heidi blowup on wednesday. awesome.
Pfiffer dodged one that inning.
do it or dont, i got some place to be
Papelbon going for four straight?
why in the world were they not bunting there
good lord bud black
Anyone else see the jackoff behind home plate waving his arms?
:-D :paranoid :'( :boom
It's almost comical.
chooch needs a new shipment of roids
so old and finished now...so sad
Denofria just Lonnie Smith'ed the ball!
Mr. Young, I think you missed strike one by about three feet.
Wow, Young couldn't even wait for a strike. Looked like Juan Samuel diving for those low and aways.
One more stick of dynamite for the implosion.
even i thought they might hover around 500 and make the organization believe they could make a run before blowing up later on
got to give them credit for not beating around the bush and imploding early enough. goooooood night irene this team SUCKS something else
"He's in a bit of a funk right now."
Gee, do you think so, Chuckles?
This shtein is just so familiar. Reminds me of 20 other seasons with this team where they were * supposed * to contend or at least be competitive and players just flame out by underachieving or flat-out sucking.
good job on that paps signing
I am glad I went to bed and didn't witness the latest abortion.
What a waste of my time
i stayed up cause i was up watching the hockey stuff anyway
i will not be up tonight
"shtein happens"
-papelbon summing up the entire season
Mike Adams has three tears in his shoulder.
Done.
Ruben Amaro Junior is the man.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
is there any chance they trade phifer this season
him having a great year is by far the most important thing that can happen to this franchise in 2013
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
Mike Adams has three tears in his shoulder.
Done.
Ruben Amaro Junior is the man.
and Ruben has three tears in his brain.
#DomBomb
Quote from: Don Ho on June 25, 2013, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
Mike Adams has three tears in his shoulder.
Done.
Ruben Amaro Junior is the man.
and Ruben has three tears in his brain.
there wasnt anyone that wasnt on board with the adams signing...i wasnt a huge fan but even i called it tolerable
Adams is a case of bad luck. Turns out it was a bad deal but I don't fault Smug for that one. Lannan, Young, Nix and a host of others sure but not Adams. He was worth a shot.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/philadelphia-phillies-face-tough-decisions-ahead-of-trade-deadline-chase-utley-cliff-lee-062613
There's nothing tough about it. Utley is done, Howard is untradeable and Rollins is ticketed for an American League contender. A week ago I would have said Papelbon is history but because of his latest implosions I doubt they'd be able to get a bag of used rubbers for him. Lee is the only piece that could bring back anything of value unless they do something really stupid and try to contend this year.
yeah how are any of these decisions close to tough.....they should have been made last season
Hamels is a goddamn mess.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 26, 2013, 11:50:40 PM
Hamels is a goddamn mess.
he needs to either give some money or years back
Maybe he can convince Choke too!
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pettibone bad out of the gate again
wow did delolmon really make that catch
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2013, 10:28:13 PM
pettibone bad out of the gate again
Zambrano will be up soon for him
jimmy the god
grienke is such a bitch
Choke is a farging idiot
lol at these double plays
Gritty homer there.
Wonder which bullpenner will blow it tonight?
I'm going with basticho.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 27, 2013, 11:41:35 PM
Choke is a farging idiot
Again.
Dumbest baseball team this side of the farging Bad News Bears.
I was wrong.
DeFratus blows it with a huge assist from Choke.
Now Antonio The Blowtorch is coming in.
Choke...Jesus man get yourself together.
its been awhile since i was as angry as i was last night after choke's 3-0 ab. farging choke and farging charlie
One of the less enjoyable aspects of my job is I have to go to bed really early most weeknights. I used to hate not being able to watch the Phils on the west coast and now it's almost a blessing.
29 days until camp
Choke benched for two games. Only will do hitting drills.
It's been said thousands of times before...but goddamn is Vin Scully great to listen to.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2013, 11:35:06 PM
It's been said thousands of times before...but goddamn is Vin Scully great to listen to.
Yep. The last of a breed.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 27, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2013, 10:28:13 PM
pettibone bad out of the gate again
Zambrano will be up soon for him
Maybe not. (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130628&content_id=52075198¬ebook_id=52090786&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi)
So I guess Charlie is gonna beat Eskin's ass now? He said when they scored ten he'd whup him.
Delmon has six RBI and hosed a runner at the plate.
A Ben Revere homer would really cap this slaughter off.
Odds they get 3 or less runs tomorrow? High.
Was tonight the night Todd was going to the game? If so, ha...
Quintero struck out with the bases loaded in the 9th and Vin Scully says, "well, the Phillies failed to score... there's a headline."
GOAT.
Ace Hamels next start pushed back two days.
Doing with him as they've done with Choke.
Grit with two gritty homers tonight.
Todd gonna owe me $50 when he's back with a new contract.
Nice job bullpen. Worse than that was the bases loaded top 8 and they come up with jack shtein.
Got to love Hanley Rameriz ignoring the third base coaches stop sign on the winning run. "farg you, I'm going!"
i saw the clearwater threshers last night. it's amazing to watch a team in the minors that resembles the big club as much as they do. terrible fundamentals like poor baserunning, missing cut-off men, hacking wildly ahead in counts with guys on base. oh, and head-scratching decisions by the manager too. and when they did manage to score the bullpen barely noticed or reacted. no cheering, no clapping... nothing. very strange. disappointing too, but hey, get used to it i guess. just my impressions and i'm obviously biased, but just so weird and it leads me to wonder if it's an institution-wide thing.
Here's David Schoenfield in a story about Puig's 4-hit night. Even though the story isn't even about the Phillies, it says everything you need to know about the Phils season and the offseason moves made by Rube.
QuoteIn truth, Puig was a little lucky on this day. Two hits were infield singles off the glove of Philadelphia Phillies third baseman Michael Young, plays that a better third baseman could have made. The triple was blooped to right field, a play that a more agile fielder than Delmon Young could have caught. Then he drilled a line drive between first and second and made it to second base as Young must have been stationed in San Bernadino.
on wednesday our tickets in san diego (amazing city btw) were directly below press row. we wound up right under la and franzke. sarge was in the next box over sitting next to a ginger.
anyway none other than ruben amaro jr was hovering over us the entire game. after each farg up i would get up and and yell at him. he was mostly on his blackberry or talking to a fine looking 30 year old white chick who might or might not be his wife. after cole hamels gave up the homers he just stared at the field, smugly looked on, then walked away.
on saturday we tried to go but it was sold out. i found 2 scalpers in the lot. 2. both were asking for ridiculous amounts. farg that. as it turned out, not going was beyond wise. this team sucks something else. trade everyone. goodbye.
Thank you for yelling at Smug. Not that it does any good but I feel good knowing you said something to him. Did he show any reaction to your comments?
BTW - we'll be evened up on our bets. Utley will be coming back and they ain't making the playoffs
Are you kidding, J? Todd probably went meekly up and asked for his autograph.
"Mr Ruben can I buy you a drink after the game?!"
he paid no attention to me, but im pretty sure he heard me
we were watching bp before the game. some dude was railing on doc for not throwing a ball to him. says something like you make 20 mil cant you give us a ball. keep in mind this is a 40 year old man. anyway doc fires back YOU ALREADY HAVE A BALL IN YOUR HAND. he doesnt throw one into the crowd of the rest of the session.
kendrick was on bitch duty. anytime a ball skidded past everyone to the wall he had to go get it. jon laanan meanwhile was miming his delivery in centerfield. hof brown was tossing balls against the wall, then he was awkwardly flailing his limbs and firing balls into the crowd. im talking like letting them rip. he did it twice then sprinted for the dugout. i thought it was funny.
petco is amazing by the way. absolute must see.
lol at the guy yelling at Doc...you should've dumped a beer on him.
Did you tell Choke he was worthless? Tell Michael Young that you hate him?
they were taking bp and i was in the outfield
but i think choke knows he sucks and my surely knows he is a humongous waste of oxygen
I've heard from everyone who has been to Petco that it is a great ballpark. Just missed seeing the bums in SD in 06 by a week. I was there during the All-Star Break so no games. I'd love to see a game there.
How was the crowd? 50/50 Phils/Padres fans?
Quote from: MDS on July 01, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
petco is amazing by the way. absolute must see.
I think it blows. Absolutely boring park with no baseball feel. Reminds me of a nice shopping mall.
Quote from: SD on July 01, 2013, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 01, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
petco is amazing by the way. absolute must see.
I think it blows. Absolutely boring park with no baseball feel. Reminds me of a nice shopping mall.
that's what ive heard as well....which makes sense since its in sd
The Phillies suck.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 01, 2013, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: SD on July 01, 2013, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 01, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
petco is amazing by the way. absolute must see.
I think it blows. Absolutely boring park with no baseball feel. Reminds me of a nice shopping mall.
that's what ive heard as well....which makes sense since its in sd
its certainly better than the bank...basically feels the same but its in the middle of down town and not in the scuzz of south philly
to each his own, for the guy whos been there and the guy who knows everything despite experiencing very little
I know several people that I trust way more on things like this than you say that it sucks...and basically mirrored what sd said...so im leaning that way
stick to tv
They're recycling at Petco so of course SD hates it.
SD (the city) >>>>>>>>>> Philly.
SD the city is much better than Philly...but holy shtein only a non baseball fan who's been to few parks would say Petco is comparible to CBP. Petco doesn't even rank in my top 10 parks and I've visited around 15
the bank is OK...i never got the hype for it
food is solid but its in such a dead part of town. and your view is a parking lot and a tower.
I prefer a large area to tailgate rather than a downtown park. I preferred Qualcomm because of the tailgating. Structurally Petco is blah unless you're into water falls and old warehouses that serve no meaning. The colors are so drab.
That is a good point, where the hell do you tailgate before a Padres game? It was all tiny municipal or insert quarters here parking lots downtown. I guess the whole "experience" is go to the game then hang out in the gas lamp district after.
Since we are on the subject of Southern California ballparks, Bionic may have covered this but has anyone been to the new remodeled Dodger Stadium? I guess they did some more work on it this past off season.
bwahahaha at sd being a better city than philly
socal as a whole is despicable
and who cares whats around a stadium....yay for overpriced bars and a chipotle
tailgating trumps all and a good phillie tailgate rivals that of some nfl stadiums ive been to....you can go into the city after the game
Yeah it's not like the sports complex is on an island in the middle of the Atlantic. Take the train or grab a cab and go into the city. It's not that damn far.
San Diego has the beach, great food, beautiful women and a perfect climate. Philly has Kensington & WIP.
the 2 guys complaining about sd grew up in northeast philly
that says it all right there
sd likes sd (I think) he just hates the stadium
I think sd is a cheesy artificial military industrial complex based conservative leaning hell hole that isn't even a real city due to its artificial city limits
no heart no soul no good
Jacksonville, NC is a cheesy artificial military industrial complex based conservative leaning hell hole. Take Camp Lejeune and New River Air Station out of Jax, NC, and the town goes under. Same goes for the shtein hole towns surrounding probably 80-90% of military bases in this country.
The Navy and Marine Corps could pack up and leave SD tomorrow and the city would still thrive. In fact, it might even be an improvement.
Though I will say that SD is pretty damn conservative for being a large, coastal city. But that's mostly due to the religious beliefs of the hispanic population. I also think that if the military didn't have such a large presence there, the conservative factor would decrease 10 fold.
Jacksonville is hell on earth.....sd im sure is livable...its just heartless with a cheesy downtown...pretty much anything south of san fran in cali should fall off into the ocean
Camden<<<<Jacksonville<<<<<<<sd<x infinity philadelphia
Haha.
Keep in mind he's never been there. And he's not exactly a beach lover.
Not that I should give a shtein but why in the hell do you send Lannan from first on that Grit double? Never stood a chance. Sandberg scares me.
Now that Wheels has defended the decision I feel so much better.
Wheels has added another thing to his always talking about repertoire. Joining no doubles defense, middle in, dropping the head, telling us what players are talking about while on screen is railing about head first slides.
Jesus farging mother of farging god shut the farg up and farging retire.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 03, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
Wheels has added another thing to his always talking about repertoire. no doubles defense
that needs to be inscribed on his head stone.
Hopefully it'll be sooner rather than later when he needs a headstone.
Lannan getting outta trouble.
Attn igy and Todd....Smug on WIP pregame show said Choke needs to be better because he's basically a $25m platoon player. Lol
does smug know that smug gave him that contract?
smug blames howard 100000% for that...its not his fault the player he gave 5/125 2 years before his contract was up sucks and got hurt.
also how downright boring is this team. good lord. at least charlie has stopped giving a shtein. "jon lannan is one of the 5 best starters we have." lol, hes a horrible manager but at least hes going down with some comedic chops.
another big win....two of three from the red hott buccos
It looked like a Phillies home game today. Pitiful support as usual from the Stillers fans. No wonder the Fish couldn't save Pittsburgh.
8.5 out
let the run begin. go team go
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i dont get the reference
Glennbo?
That team (1986) wasn't really terrible at all. They just had the misfortune of finishing in second about 40 games behind the coked-up Mets. Their starting pitching was pitiful, though, other than Mr. Sandpaper Kevin Gross. Amazingly enough they had Smoke Stewart on the roster.
For no logical reason what so ever, that 86 Phils team is one of my favorite Phillies teams ever.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN198606290.shtml
And this is still one of my favorite Phillies games ever, also from 86. Trailing 7-4 in the top of the 9th, 2 out, bases loaded and Juan Samuel jacked one out of the park. All 4 runs were unearned because Ozzie Smith of all people, made an error with 2 out that loaded the bases. Then Bedrock came in for the 9th and shut it down 1-2-3.
I did not realize Milt Thompson had several stints with the bums. Love those old box scores.
Quote from: Rome on July 04, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
It looked like a Phillies home game today. Pitiful support as usual from the Stillers fans. No wonder the Fish couldn't save Pittsburgh.
I noticed that as well yesterday. Place was full of Phils fans. Pirates playing some of the best ball in the MLB, holiday, in state rival, shtein, c'mon people.
Hhhmmmm, Phils announcers or Braves announcers? It's like Russian Roulette.
lol Angel Hernandez at it again...Gerald Laird and Fredi got run...but it was a bullshtein call.
Dopey fargs booing Jimmy again. Idiots.
Choke just murdered one. Wow.
Cliff Lee has a 4-0 lead. Uh oh.
It's not a playoff game so the lead should be safe.
and just like that the meltdown begins.
Cliff lost it quick tonight. Thank god for Quintero and his magic bat.
5-4 and Tony B is on the mound. Braves about to take the lead.
JC Ramirez would be my go to guy for the 8th from now on. He's throwing well.
Ramirez did look good and is throwing some heat.
Holy fargin shtein HOF almost caught that
Nice win.
Quintero, that haircut! Friar Tuck.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 05, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
Holy fargin shtein HOF almost caught that
.
Hell of an effort. Guys got some hop.
Haha...I sold the guy who built Quintero's cabinets all the lumber and plywood when he lived in Houston (Demeco Ryans too).
this was a textbook 2009 win...middling pitching and some scrub replacement player pulls a good game out of his ass and they win. think of some game where cody ransom or mike sweeney keyed a win. this was one of those.
sweep the braves and theyre 5.5 out. holla.
Well looky what we have here...
Todd's jumped in the bandwagon drivers seat and thrown this bitch into first gear.
i am on no such thing, i just gotta throw out positive yarn every so often so romey and don and geo the morman dont get too down
Bullshtein. Own the fact you're all in. Put on the el capitan hat and roll.
if they traded utley, jimmy, lee, papelbon, ruiz, young tomorrow id do cartwheels in the streets
all OUT
Sweep the Braves and the Nats and buy buy buy
that would be the worst thing to ever happen to them, maybe even worse than giving choke 125 over 5
im not even sure if they did that if rome would be IN and rome is the president and founder of the red pajamas phillies homer club
I'd be in like you wouldn't believe.
Maybe Smug would trade for Ibanez?
if you want to start making up trade scenarios for a team that will be 10 games out on july 31 then start with alex rios
Quote from: MDS on July 05, 2013, 11:06:41 PM
i am on no such thing, i just gotta throw out positive yarn every so often so romey and don and geo the morman dont get too down
How did I get stuck in that one? I'm in full blow-it-up mode.
The funny thing is there isn't a more cynical bastich on Earth than me when it comes to my sports teams but here I'm the resident homer cheerleader.
choke out tonight with knee irritation
laynce
15 day dl for choke......ruf called up
way to set a tone kk
Dom Brown and Cliff Lee in the All Star Game
Kendrick is AWFUL
amazing escape
braves offense channeling the phils
Nights like this are when I could beat the shtein out of MLB and tv executives. I'm beig forced to watch the goddamn Astros and Rangers.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 06, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
Nights like this are when I could beat the shtein out of MLB and tv executives. I'm beig forced to watch the goddamn Astros and Rangers.
id rather watch that than kk
Struggling?
leadoff homer....two more runs....then miraculously got out of a bases loaded no out
as usual when he sucks his pitches just cant get down
gawd jimmy
Yeah he was up in the zone his last start too.
jimmy is a beautiful thing to watch
Michael Young is not a beautiful thing to watch
what was roob thinking getting michael young.....farging everyone said it would be a disaster and that's exactly whats happened...when the fans are smarter than the gm its time for a change
lololol at the Bronx cheer towards young
im too lazy but i want to get the J post where he starts trolling for michael young...its the greatest
they can trade him but wont get squat for him. its all about dealing utley, papelbon and lee.
If they had gotten the Michael Young from five years ago it would have been great. The one they got has less power than a Yugo and is a severe liability in the field. They have two guys in Asche & Franco who *could* be high level talents but they're at least a year, if not more, away. Amazingly enough Boston wants Young. Time for Smug to sell before the market gets hot.
little better start today
im lovin pettibone this year....i think when he soaks in everything dubee has to teach him hes gonna be a legit major league pitcher one day.....maybe as high as a two
on the flip side, babe ruf lookin like he misses lehigh
eff these dumb ass fans suckin off darrin rough
farging scrub had seven homers and 87 k's in 300 ab in allentown but he should send choke to the bench
joe simpson has a boner for yasiel puig hate
wahhh wahhh the system is unfair put freddie freeman in. god damnit what a twat. still better than wheeler though
pettiBONER
a ruf and tumble stillupfront's mom
chooch cant get a runner home from 3rd with no out.....big ben gaps one with two out....wow
how done is chooch
man did he lose it and quick
Yooooo that homer by HOF was sweet. He's murdering inside pitches. Beautiful swing.
Benny Revere is playing well too
Quote from: MDS on July 07, 2013, 02:47:04 PM
how done is chooch
man did he lose it and quick
It's practically like he's coming off PEDs or something.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 07, 2013, 03:07:12 PM
Yooooo that homer by HOF was sweet. He's murdering inside pitches. Beautiful swing.
beautiful cbp special
lol that was a fly ball that happened to go out because the bank is a joke
I'm talking about his swing and ability to turn on inside pitches, you joyless funholes.
i wish i could see the world through your red sunglasses but my philadelphia bred negativity will not allow it
braves --
nats 4
phils 7.5
mon - harren vs lannan
tues - taylor Jordan vs Heidi
wed - gio vs phifer
thurs - zimmerman vs kendrick
LETS DO THIS J!
GRIT
oldley?
on what planet is that ruled a hit?
I think I could get a hit off Tony B...he's a 3R homer waiting to happen.
manuel selling out to win today with lannan pitching tomorrow
i have no earthly idea how they win on monday. they need to score 16 runs minimum.
i was just about to say only the phillies could use six pitchers in a game they were comfortably ahead in the entire nine innings
you will never hear the small contingent of charlie worshipers (J undoubtedly is captain of that ship) bring it up but uncle dumbfarg trying to manage a baseball team is incompetence personified
You gotta piecemeal wins together with that BP, guys. If they had guys worth a shtein it would be different but he's got eight below average to average pitchers there.
not up 7-1 you dont
lol piecemeal wins up by 25 runs
poor charlie he doesnt have an all star team whatever can he do?
looks like theres trouble in paradise
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130707&content_id=53030494&vkey=news_phi&c_id=phi
love how manuel is running around as rubens house boy. me thinks someone is angling for a cushy special assistant to the gm job
amaro is such a terrible person
i thought it was corny and over the top in a goofy white guy humor way but baseball with 162 games is so much different than every other sport in terms of how you act during or after a loss...its only as bad as the next game and they rolled today...smug is simply teetering on the edge of losing it because he knows this is roster is all on him
but hey if he hates this team so much then trade them all at the deadline
their clowning around yesterday was nauseating. you're getting ass raped and you're giggling and farging around in the dugout?
i hate ruben as much as anyone but he was right calling those bitchy primadonnas out. especially lee. this team is getting blown up so you might as well start by trading his sullen ass.
this entire team should be thrown into the gas chamber
this is worse than a late era andy reid team in terms of likability
I read Rome's post in Cataldi's voice in my head. Sounds like something he'd say. C'mon Rome!
Ruben is a joke. If anyone should be getting called out its his sorry ass. He should be sitting in front of Monty answering why he's failed.
But noooo...this fargin guy has the balls to call out a guy who he GAVE THE AWFUL CONTRACT TO AND IS HURT for not playing well. Then he gets on their asses for goofing off?
So you approve of them acting like iceholes instead of actually being serious about the game at hand?
And I already said Ruben is no better. He's at fault for this fiasco. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while and in this case he was right to bitch them out. Besides, do you really think it was just him? Upper management & ownership cannot be happy about anything that has happened this year short of HOF finally breaking out. These dicks are getting paid 175 million dollars to be a sub-.500 team and then they have the nerve to act like babies when they're getting their asses handed to them?
Gimme a break. If anyone went to work with that sort of zesty attitude and overall "we don't give a farg" chip on their shoulder they'd get fired in a second, much less millionaires being paid to play a kids game.
Pitchers who aren't playing? Sure why not? I don't expect seriousness and stoicism every second of every game. This happens all throughout MLB during interviews. Remember back in the 80s when guys would light shoes on fire and shtein like that?
it was a national game, they were getting destroyed, theyre a zesty team to begin with
tell me you get why the suits would be pissed. at the same time, farg amaro.
Relax everybody. They just took two series against division-leading teams.
This is probably the high point of the next five seasons.
remember romey baseball is the sport where a baserunner and a first basemen will yuck it up with each other in a game that is actually meaningful and they arent even on the same team
And it was 3-1 at the time of the interview
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2013, 10:30:33 AM
And it was 3-1 at the time of the interview
thye was gettin blown out!1/1!!11
choke has a meniscus tear, out 6-8 weeks
Choke has a torn meniscus and needs surgery. Out 6-8 weeks.
just bring up asche and play all the farging kids
the worst contract in the history of sports just got worse
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
the worst contract in the history of sports just got worse
But Rube said its not his fault for giving it out!!
you hate rube more than i hate 5 and that is a FACT
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
the worst contract in the history of sports just got worse
But Rube said its not his fault for giving it out!!
not just that but 48 hrs ago he publicly murders the guy for not playing well
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 07, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
amaro is such a terrible person
OMG roob playing cards during a game!!!!
oh and delmon young sucks
Quote from: MDS on July 07, 2013, 02:47:04 PM
how done is chooch
man did he lose it and quick
He sure is done. Another great at bat with the bases juiced.
These 2 runs will hold up as well as a snowball on Waikiki Beach in July.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 08, 2013, 07:26:07 PM
oh and delmon young sucks
brutal AB...then ruf looks lost but coaxes a walk
ruf sucks but he does have an eye
Delmon isn't getting good swings at Haren at all. This game should be at least 5-0.
And yes I hate Amaro more than any previous Philadelphia sports figure ever. He's such a terrible GM and he's got an attitude like he's got a fistful of rings. farging prick.
Revere another three hit night - now over .300
Jimmy with an RBI knock.
they still might lose this game, but the chances of them winning this game with this offense, no bullpen and jon lannan starting had to be under 1%
Get on the wagon, son.
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 09:13:11 PM
with this offense
The Phillies offense is better than the Nats offense in nearly every category. The Phils obviously struggle up there but DC's offense flat-out sucks.
its especially awful on the road
Don't speak ill of the Nats. They were supposed to go 130-32!!
nats still win the division
Bet me now!!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Bet me now!!
igy wins if the nats take the division and you win if the phils take it?
we already have $25 on nats winning the division and $50 on the phils making the playoffs
not that i care about papelbon or his arm but i cant imagine hes in a good place right now
So right now I'd owe you $25.
Wanna go more on the Nats?
The smear's going to be tested here.
no ill take my 75 and roll
im so glad chuckles brought in john mcdonald for defense
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 08, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 09:13:11 PM
with this offense
The Phillies offense is better than the Nats offense in nearly every category. The Phils obviously struggle up there but DC's offense flat-out sucks.
Did I hear right? Nats shut out 9 times already? Well with papelfarg on the mound there goes your shutout so 10 shouldn't be an issue.
that ball was a half inch towards werths hands or its gone
Trade value melting before our eyes for Papsmear.
I wish Chooch just clocked that cocky farg right there on the mound. I love Sutclife.
hes been used now 5 times in the last week...2nd time in a row hes used in what is not even a terribly dire situation
brilliant as usual charlie
^^^^ :yay^^^^
Didn't Charlie panic last time Chad Tracy pinch hit against the bums?
Win, good.
Papelbon, bad.
de fratus could have done that...now you dont have your best reliever for what could be a 1-run game tomorrow
logic and charlie manuel. oil and water.
Charlie is just a bafoone. Managing himself right out of town.
Lil Guy and his bullpen rants are beginning to sound like he's drunk.
One week he's ranting about not using Papsmear in the 8th.
Now it's not big enough of a safe situation so he rips him being called on.
Make up your mind!
If DeFratus or Antontio The Arsonist are brought in and farg it up your be howling about Chuck having his closer sitting on ice.
yeah hes all over the map
theres absolutely no way you dont use him tonight
you have phifer and heidi the next two nights....yes they could be one run games....but you have to lock down the win with lannan and take your chances that you will win the games with two guys making a combined 45 million bucks this year
you use your best relief pitcher in what is the most crucial part of the game...sometimes thats the 8th, sometimes its the 9th.
a 3 run lead against a team that cant hit when he needs a day off doesnt qualify. this stuff isnt rocket science.
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 09:58:43 PM
against a team that cant hit
lol at referencing the team when you are talking about one inning....did you even look to see who was due up going into the 9th?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 08, 2013, 09:57:48 PMyou have phifer and heidi the next two nights....yes they could be one run games....but you have to lock down the win with lannan and take your chances that you will win the games with two guys making a combined 45 million bucks this year
what does that mean?
lannan gave them a better outing than theyre going to get out of lee or hamels. and he still felt the need to bring in papelbon. if lannan is pulled after 5 or 6 and you piecemeal your way to the 9th i get it.
Quote from: MDS on July 08, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 08, 2013, 09:57:48 PMyou have phifer and heidi the next two nights....yes they could be one run games....but you have to lock down the win with lannan and take your chances that you will win the games with two guys making a combined 45 million bucks this year
what does that mean?
lannan gave them a better outing than theyre going to get out of lee or hamels. and he still felt the need to bring in papelbon. if lannan is pulled after 5 or 6 and you piecemeal your way to the 9th i get it.
you dont get it and never will
Heart of the order due up? Use the closer.
End of discussion.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 08, 2013, 10:03:52 PM
Heart of the order due up? Use the closer.
End of discussion.
its a 3 run lead...if its a 1 run lead im with you. farg your stats i dont care about what is and is not a 'save situation.'
but youve got to have 1 or 2 people in the bullpen who can give up fewer than 2 runs before getting 3 outs
it has nothing to do with a save situation....its has to with paplebon by far being your best pitcher to use in that spot
lol @ wanting justin defratus over paps
it had everything to do with papelbon being used for the 5TH TIME THIS WEEK...thats it and thats all
as you could clearly see he had nothing. now hes definitely out for tomorrow, when harper-zimm-werth could be up in a 3-2 game not a 3-0 game.
im guessing jake diekman would have had a decent chance to not give up 3 runs while getting 3 outs. or you could have left lannan in, he looked fine in the 8th to me.
at some point the phillies are going to have to win a tight game without the services of papelbon if they can even remotely dream about making the playoffs. they cant run their only relief pitcher into the ground avoiding that.
actually watch it again....he had really good stuff....hit 93 a couple times with the fastball and had some sliders really dive....his location was a little off but he also again was facing some good hitters
hahah @ jake diekman.....now i know you are just messin around....at first i thought you were serious about all this
the first 3 batters had really good cuts on his fastball
for the last 2 outs he was throwing junk, all low. laroche got himself out and tracy sucks. its what he should have been doing all along.
lefties are 2/15 vs. diekman this year. odds say he would have OK.
ok buddy
Ya know what? They shoulda put Savery or Aumont in.
aumont sucks something else
like i said diekman, sticking with lannan or even tony b. maybe they win 10-0 tomorrow and it doesnt matter. maybe they lose 4-3 because tony b gives up 2 in the ninth. who knows.
im just playing the odds thats all. but since it dont follow the book im WRONG
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2013, 12:40:33 AM
Ya know what? They shoulda put Savery or Aumont in.
ANYONE but paps
revere
rollins
utley
brown
white young
black young
ruf
chooch
Espn has a good article on how terribly amaro is and how Howard is the worst contract in baseball.
http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=9462544
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 09, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
Espn has a good article on how terribly amaro is and how Howard is the worst contract in baseball.
http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=9462544
Or you can do this instead...
http://www.buzzedgames.com/watch-paint-dry-game.html
I just get irritated whenever I hear Amaro speak and he blames players for contracts he gave out. Not like anyone is playing armchair GM either -- everyone knew the Howard contract was terrible when he signed it.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 09, 2013, 06:47:22 PM
I just get irritated whenever I hear Amaro speak
me too
if that harper at bat was any indication then Heidi should be on tonight....stuff was ridiculous
POS heidi
Home Run Heidi lets Werth go deep.
chooch doesnt have an ounce of power left in his bat
Nope. He's all RF fly outs all the time now.
Jesus Chooch! :boom
GET ON THE GODDAMN BANDWAGON NOW!!
i come back with heidi
how many walks does odb give up this inning
Hopefully none. And no homers.
1
Lets go you farging Arsonist!!
luckily for odb heidi got the middle of the order out of the way for him
Motherfarging piece of shtein!
And MAAAyberry? Catch the ball you vadge.
what the hell is charlie doing....you cant let hairston hit against a lefty
phew
Vroom! Vroom!
Bandwagon is rolling down 95.
Whoa what did we just hit in the road?!
Ahh just mds! Keep going!
hahaa NO
cliff lee should throw the game tomorrow so he can get traded
[quoteThe Philadelphia Phillies have expressed interest in New York Yankees reliever Joba Chamberlain, according to Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News.][/quote]
Burp, and cue vomit. No thank you.
the worst part of that is that they are actually going to try and win this year.....setting the franchise back an extra 3-5 yearsin the process
not if they lose 6 in a row or something, then theyll sell
but if they play well from now until july 31 they are going to convince themselves (and the extreme homers) that this pos team can make a run
they couldnt make a run when they won 102 games....not they are a sub .500 team and in the mix for a world series trophy
before this four game set is over i may be ready to say that the nats announcers are worse than the phillies
fp santangelo is a farging travesty
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2013, 07:43:13 PM
they couldnt make a run when they won 102 games....not they are a sub .500 team and in the mix for a world series trophy
you dont have to convince me. try convincing J who is holding onto cliff lee like his life depends on it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2013, 07:45:47 PM
before this four game set is over i may be ready to say that the nats announcers are worse than the phillies
fp santangelo is a farging travesty
they might be worse but as a phillies fan nothing IS worse than tmac and wheeler. i physically cannot stomach a second of those 2 while i can hate watch a nats broadcast.
one of two things is going to happen this game....cliff lee is going to give up a homer of some kind or its going 0-0 to the bullpens where the nats have a huge advantage and will win like 4-0
and on que there are the homers
lol at that buffoon who got raked in the face by the rendon homer
Good call igy. back to back and almost a third.
Chooch close but no cigar. He may never advance a runner again, in a Phillies uniform that is.
Another homer.
Jesus.
Hahahaha another homer now!
4-0
What the farg?
what happened to those world series plans, homers
no chance they beat zimmerman tomorrow which will have meant in two short days they went from sweeping the nats and being division favorites to splitting with the nats and being a few games up on the mets
homers are special people
Slow your rolls, haters.
SELL SELL SELL
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 09, 2013, 08:58:53 PM
GET ON THE GODDAMN BANDWAGON NOW!!
lol
Quote from: MDS on July 10, 2013, 01:32:48 AM
cliff lee should throw the game tomorrow so he can get traded
brilliance as usual from me
Win tomorrow and win the series.
Pipe down, jerks.
they are not winning zimm vs. kk
the 4th inning isnt even over and chase utley has 3 errors
watching darrin ruf to try play 1st makes me miss not only ryan howard, but also rico brogna
Amaro is on the bandwagon. (http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/07/11/amaro-better-off-than-12-were-buying-now/)
Quote"My bosses have always allowed us to do the sensible thing, if it's something that makes some sense," he said.
Maybe if something makes a lot of sense it might help.
how do you say clutch in german
what a brutal call
Sure was. He was safe allright.
i take that back....probably out...but even if he wasnt thats a really tough call
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 11, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
i take that back....probably out...but even if he wasnt thats a really tough call
Yep, was out. To bad Jimmy had to avoid him as he leapt in the air.
odb is all over the plate tonight for once
Great start by Kendrick tonight. Hopefully Papelbon can hold onto the lead.
braves --
nates 6
phils 7.5
danks vs pettibone
santiago vs lannan
quintana vs heidi
Quote from: MDS on July 11, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
they are not winning zimm vs. kk
You were saying?
Bandwagon! Now! Get the farg on!
6 back in the 2nd wild card standings
homers need to feed of the teet of false hope and that right there is some false motherfargin hope
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18tl8ae104qsngif/ku-xlarge.gif)
what. the. farg.
Werth's a bum, guys.
They've been playing entertaining baseball lately and in a perfect world I'd like to see them be given the chance for that to continue. I think with the guys the Phils currently have, they could have a much better second half than the anemic start to the year. The NL is really not that good.
That being said, you'd have to be a retard or Reuben Amaro to think single-digit odds of making it into a one-game playoff are worth letting what little value the roster has rot on the vine instead of being reinvested into the team's future. Sell everyone. Sell the batboy if a team will take him. Find Dom some people his age to play with. Or younger, preferably. Otherwise, we get to this point next season and the team sucks even more dick and this time, there are no players except Dom that anyone wants.
the weak league thing only carrys weight imo if you are near the top....as in it gives you a chance to go to the world series
otherwise its worthless...how is it a positive to be a bad team in a bad league....part of the reason the league sucks is because the phillies are in it
i know you dont want them to go for it but if anyone does they have to be looking at the division...they arent winning the wild card theres to many teams...shtein the cubs and mets are closer to the phillies than the phillies are to a wc spot...yes they are farther out from the braves than they are a wc but they have lots of h2h with the braves and only have to theoretically fight with one team (the nats) to get there...plus the phillies have the best record in the division by 3 games
anyway....
BLOW
IT
UP
they rely heavily on attendance for revenue and have a billion dollar tv contract coming up in 2 years
they arent blowing it up. get it out your mind.
if they were horrible there is no doubt theyd blow it up
well blow it up meaning paps GRIT and young would def be gone....and possibly jimmy
ownership might nix an utley trade. they are so worried about ticket sales and ratings, you have no clue.
at most if they lose over the next 2 weeks they trade the youngs and maybe papelbon. i cant see rube letting lee go. he has to try in 2014, even though he shouldnt.
lee i agree on...hes was never going to trade him....even though you could get more for him than anyone on the roster
utley is a free agent and theres no guarantee hes back anyway so he would be gone if they were bad enough....unfortunately they are going to be in no mans land
lee they can always trade next year...but that hinges on his old self not breaking down. utley im beyond with you on but he is the great white hope face of the franchise GRIT animal lover. i cant see them coldly just sending him to baltimore for a AAA pitcher.
Even if the Phillies wanted to re-sign Utley, I'm not certain he would want to come back. He's got limited time left in MLB because of his injuries. Both he and his wife (I believe) are from the West Coast. I could see him trying to hook onto the Angels or the A's, where he could get some DH time to alleviate the wear and tear of playing second base, and could use some leadership.
they are both from socal....met at ucla....they both currently live in san francisco
Utley isn't going anywhere. He's a Phillie for life.
Quote from: MDS on July 12, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
they rely heavily on attendance for revenue and have a billion dollar tv contract coming up in 2 years
they arent blowing it up. get it out your mind.
I agree with shteinhead
They're going to milk this group until they're dry and pray some minor leaguers pan out for the future. As long as they're somewhat relevant they're turning a profit which is the bottom line. Realistically if they would have added more than Mike Adams to the pen I'd be a bit more optimistic they'd catch the Braves. Amaro was on the Fanatic the other day and was asked if he believes the Phils could play + .600 ball the rest of the way (which still doesn't guarantee shtein) his response was not as we're currently constructed because we need help in the pen. They'll add some arms at the deadline and at some point play half decent but we all know they're falling short. Only chance we have for them to sell is if they're 10 games under .500.
day nighter tomorrow
the nighter will probably be on local tv. i cant see it being on EI because of the fox blackout rule. outside shot of being on mlbtv.
QuoteThe 3:05 p.m. game will be televised on CSN and air on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, SportsRadio 94WIP, SAP (Spanish), and WOGL HD4 (Spanish).
The 8:15 p.m. game will air on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, SportsRadio 94WIP, SAP (Spanish) and WOGL HD4 (Spanish).
no tv whatsoever. in 2013. god bless bud selig.
How is it remotely possible that a game isn't being televised in this day and age? Not that I give a shtein because I'd probably blow it off anyway, but Jesus Christ what a total embarrassment.
Ha. Maybe the Inquirer should roll out one of these:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9812778/cf/Coleman-Life-Like-Scoreboard-1924.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9812778/cf/1912-Washington-Post-Scoreboard-Close.jpg)
Quote from: Rome on July 12, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
How is it remotely possible that a game isn't being televised in this day and age? Not that I give a shtein because I'd probably blow it off anyway, but Jesus Christ what a total embarrassment.
fox has a blackout policy for its broadcast window. from 7-10 only fox can air games. initially the phils scheduled around it but the rain out forced them to have a game that night. since fox isnt picking it up on this short notice, it cannot be on tv, as per the trillion dollar tv contract decided by a bunch of suits who dont care that someone may want to have a beer and watch their team play a ballgame that night.
this rule goes away next year btw
Quote from: MDS on July 12, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
QuoteThe 3:05 p.m. game will be televised on CSN and air on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, SportsRadio 94WIP, SAP (Spanish), and WOGL HD4 (Spanish).
The 8:15 p.m. game will air on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, SportsRadio 94WIP, SAP (Spanish) and WOGL HD4 (Spanish).
no tv whatsoever. in 2013. god bless bud selig.
the early game is on my EI menu
Quote from: MDS on July 12, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
The 8:15 p.m. game will air on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, SportsRadio 94WIP, SAP (Spanish) and WOGL HD4 (Spanish).
its on csn
no GRIT in the early game
of course the early game is on EI...that was never in doubt
the late isnt, right?
so do i watch tmac/wheels in hd or hawk in sd?
nice start pettiboner
wheels: you still have to get thru dunn which is never easy
say wha!?!?!?!?
hawk is a disaster but its funny....im on hawk for now
hes really bitter and hates the sox. so theres that.
im staying with the phils but on mute with beats on the computer.....the hd pic is too hard to pass on
good recovery by mr mcdonnell
delololmon
has there been a 27 year old man who feels and looks likes hes 45 more than delmon?
hard to believe he was a number one overall pick
pettiboner
one of the most exciting if not the most exciting athlete in the city right now
the white sox have absolutely quit and are dying to get to the break
brooms comin out
peter gammons: the yankees asked about michael young last week and were told he wasnt available
god i love the bone
(http://tribwphl.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/card2-2.jpg)
long ball with a huge carom off the wall and delololmon doesnt even round second base
horrible at bat by the german
curt schilling on the phils wall of fame
thoughts?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 04:26:48 PM
curt schilling on the phils wall of fame
thoughts?
He's worthy by their standards. By their standards 90% of the 08 team will be there
Quote from: SD on July 13, 2013, 05:51:28 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 04:26:48 PM
curt schilling on the phils wall of fame
thoughts?
He's worthy by their standards. By their standards 90% of the 08 team will be there
so true....its hard to figure out where they draw the line on that 08 team
schilling is beyond deserving, but its gonna be a real dry spell between the guys from the 90s to the 08 team...i guess next year they can do lidge or pat
my question marks are:
madson, jc, werth, stairs, feliz, myers
everyone else is in
imo none of those are remotely question marks....all waaaaaaay out
the questionmarks are chooch and burrell.....and possibly lidge or victorino
choke grit jimmy heidi is where i cut it
Myers is a definite and Madson is probably a go.
much to your chagrin they aren't putting a woman beater on the wall
Jones lololol
here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
this is disgusting
volcano.....everyone
farging bums
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 06:36:38 PM
imo none of those are remotely question marks....all waaaaaaay out
the questionmarks are chooch and burrell.....and possibly lidge or victorino
choke grit jimmy heidi is where i cut it
chooch and burrell are locks. lidge is a lock. victorino is basically a lock. the farg you smokin.
someone needs to take some adderall. and someone needs to throw laynce nix in a fire.
all the dude needs is a fly ball and hes swinging for center city. dfa please.
This band wagon just lost its wheels. Disgusting is right.
Quote from: MDS on July 13, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 06:36:38 PM
imo none of those are remotely question marks....all waaaaaaay out
the questionmarks are chooch and burrell.....and possibly lidge or victorino
choke grit jimmy heidi is where i cut it
chooch and burrell are locks. lidge is a lock. victorino is basically a lock. the farg you smokin.
lol you cant put nine players from one team on your wall....just not happening
LETS DO THIS!!
is there still room J!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Bullpen's gotten it done today.
Hopefully the idiots can bumble their way to a run in the 10th.
mike fontenot sighting
its embarrassing how many people left during the rain delay
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 07:02:14 PM
mike fontenot sighting
Saw that and didn't know if I was going to laugh or cry.
really good at bat by m young
dunn da dunnt dunnt dunnnnnnn
White Sox have gift wrapped this thing for the bums.
suicide
delmon young probably hasn't bunted in his entire life but i don't care
a horrible bunt gets the run home there with the infield basically playing on the grass going for a double play
this is officially a debacle
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 07:04:15 PM
its embarrassing how many people left during the rain delay
Those were the smart ones. The night cap crowd should flee as well.
this is all kinds of pathetic
youd think manuel could try a safety squeeze or something. but no. sit there and let your failures fail.
5 chances with a guy on 3rd to end the game and they can't get it done
SELL
Quote from: SD on July 13, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
5 chances with a guy on 3rd to end the game and they can't get it done
SELL
lol
underrated play by jimmy there not attempting the throw
Losers
two out hit with a man on third......huh
die jimmy
and the homers slowly crawl back into the hole they crept out of
thanks but no thanks it was a good run ok bye
it wont get any play because the winning run scored and then jimmy....but alexi ramirez basically walking into second base without even a thought because delololmon young is a travesty in the outfield was disgusting
Quote from: MDS on July 13, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
and the homers slowly crawl back into the hole they crept out of
thanks but no thanks it was a good run ok bye
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
LETS DO THIS!!
is there still room J!?!?!?!?!?!?!
so no?
i dont know what happened but hes 27 and he cant run without c walking
but hey smug says he gives them production so what the hell
a real ruf and tumble stillupfront's mom
chooch is HORRIBLE
so chooch is the 3rd best hitting catcher in the organization?
that was one of the most frustrating sporting events in quite some time
At this point, I'm thankful the 2nd game is blacked out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 07:43:41 PM
that was one of the most frustrating sporting events in quite some time
yeah calm down
its one loss of 80something theyll have this year.
i will not calm down.......this is my life.....a pathetic one but still
Quote from: MDS on July 13, 2013, 03:44:50 PM
the white sox have absolutely quit and are dying to get to the break
they either quit or were ready to battle a rain delay and 11 innings to get a win
they have quit and did everything they could to give the game...phils didnt want it
also revere broke his foot. so that happened.
SELL SELL SELL
games blacked out mlbtv. fine by me nothing to see here.
This has been fun today/tonight/this morning. Almost a 9 hour shtein show.
Wasn't it fireworks night tonight? Is anyone even left at this trainwreck?
theres more people from hawaii on CF than there is at the game
win tomorrow, take the series
J logic lives another day
where is that kid?
searching the mean streets of houston for a south american woman
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 13, 2013, 06:43:53 PM
much to your chagrin they aren't putting a woman beater on the wall
Haha
Re: The Phillies wall for the 2008 team.
Definites: Hamels, Howard, Utley, Rollins, Burrell, Victorino, Ruiz, Lidge
Maybes: Werth, Myers
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2013, 08:54:07 AM
Re: The Phillies wall for the 2008 team.
Definites: Hamels, Howard, Utley, Rollins, Burrell, Victorino, Ruiz, Lidge
Maybes: Werth, Myers
Moyer is a definite and Blanton is a maybe
I think you should have to play for the team for at least a decade or so to be considered. Lidge had a great 2008 but he was totally unworthy otherwise. Hamels thru Burrell on that list get the nod. The others don't IMO.
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
I think you should have to play for the team for at least a decade or so to be considered.
This just doesn't happen very often these days. Players move and few spend 10+ years with one team. And when you're the Phillies, who don't have many sustained periods of success or even a very long list of great players, if you're going to do a WOF, you need to adjust your standards accordingly.
I'd put the entire farging 08 team on there as a team plaque along with individual plaques for pretty much every starter and Lidge. I'd put the 2010 team on there as a whole as well since they set a franchise record for wins.
Phillies lineage is not good. Might as well embrace the few bright spots that shine within the abyss.
Everyone gets a trophy![/Sassy]
I think Geo's "definites" is the list. Vic and Ruiz are/were fan favorites and are stone cold locks to make the wall. Lidge is all about one year, but it's the year they won the farging World Series.
Lidge gets the nod because the first image you think of when someone mentions Phils 2008 World Series is him on his knees.
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
I think you should have to play for the team for at least a decade or so to be considered. Lidge had a great 2008 but he was totally unworthy otherwise. Hamels thru Burrell on that list get the nod. The others don't IMO.
totally agree
Michael Young flashing some leather there. Wow. It looks hot in Philly. Like ugly hot.
does the old adage come true here....make a play in the field then hit a homer or some shtein
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 01:48:19 PM
Michael Young flashing some leather there. Wow. It looks hot in Philly. Like ugly hot.
It's abysmal weather. I'm not an ac guy but mines on. The humidity is kicking.
that was a drive
Face it, the day John Vukovich was put on the Phillies' Wall of Fame, it essentially became meaningless.
i think a win today wont even feel good after that loss yesterday.....you CANT lose that game
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Face it, the day John Vukovich was put on the Phillies' Wall of Fame, it essentially became meaningless.
Lies.
(http://www.delawareonline.com/blogs/uploaded_images/85f0ed2087034b43b4cf9408fe1492e4-748709.jpg)
they put tugger on the wall and he threw one pitch. sammy is in. vuke is in. krukker is in.
lower your expectations please
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
they put tugger on the wall and he threw one pitch. sammy is in. vuke is in. krukker is in.
lower your expectations please
McGraw did pitch for the Phils for a decade and save 94 games in an era where a pitcher often had to pitch more than one inning to earn one.
If I remember right, I think McGraw was top-5 or so in saves (180) when he retired.
EDIT: Just looked it up - McGraw was 8th when he retired. Just to show how the modern save has changed, he'd slipped to 57th.
those guys also are all from different teams
they arent putting eight or nine guys from the same team on....thats ridiculous....at that point just put the 2008 Phillies on a plaque
remember they need to have 1 guy per year. at some point theyre going to get to a year where its either rich dubee or brad lidge.
i didnt know it was one per year....that in and of itself is a joke
For perspective, the following are from the 1980 team:
1988 - Paul Owens (one we haven't thought of - does Gillick get added?)
1989 - Steve Carlton
1990 - Mike Schmidt
1991 - Larry Bowa
1998 - Greg Luzinski
1999 - Tug McGraw
2001 - Garry Maddox
2005 - Bob Boone
2006 - Dallas Green (what about Cholly?)
2007 - John Vukovich
Pete Rose would easily be on the Wall if he hadn't been banned.
Rose is a special case, though. And LOL @ the little fella suggesting McGraw was a one pitch wonder.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 02:52:10 PM
i didnt know it was one per year....that in and of itself is a joke
they have an alumni weekend once per season
there are years where they could snake it out by giving it to team employees like wheeler (seriously), LA, larry shenk, gillick, the dude who plays the phanatic, etc.
manuel is getting in, too, by the way.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
For perspective, the following are from the 1980 team:
1988 - Paul Owens (one we haven't thought of - does Gillick get added?)
1989 - Steve Carlton
1990 - Mike Schmidt
1991 - Larry Bowa
1998 - Greg Luzinski
1999 - Tug McGraw
2001 - Garry Maddox
2005 - Bob Boone
2006 - Dallas Green (what about Cholly?)
2007 - John Vukovich
Pete Rose would easily be on the Wall if he hadn't been banned.
those are all great phils and mostly great mlb players
you cant say the same about shane victorino brad lidge or brett myers
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 02:59:12 PM
Rose is a special case, though. And LOL @ the little fella suggesting McGraw was a one pitch wonder.
SportsWriter Todd obviously never heard of Tug's Bo Derek fastball.
ive never seen one highlite of tug other than the final pitch in 1980...in fact nothing else out of phils career is ever mentioned
I can't tell you how many times I tugged it to Bo Derek.
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:04:10 PM
ive never seen one highlite of tug other than the final pitch in 1980...in fact nothing else out of phils career is even mentioned
Does the name Joe Carter ring a bell? What do you think of when someone says his name?
A lot of the players they put on the wall for reasons other than what they did on the field...hello John Kruk and Juan Samuel. If Kruk isn't the baseball personality he is and Sammy isn't a coach neither of them make the cut IMO.
Here's a question...does Abreu belong on there? Not my favorite player but he had the stats zed longevity (compared to the others) to be in the conversation.
13 pitch AB from HOF to draw the walk. Epic.
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:04:10 PM
ive never seen one highlite of tug other than the final pitch in 1980...in fact nothing else out of phils career is even mentioned
Does the name Joe Carter ring a bell? What do you think of when someone says his name?
a drunk you in some suburb somewhere pouting like a little bitch
When I think of illiterate virgins I think of you, so... fair enough.
Quote from: SD on July 14, 2013, 03:07:19 PM
A lot of the players they put on the wall for reasons other than what they did on the field...hello John Kruk and Juan Samuel. If Kruk isn't the baseball personality he is and Sammy isn't a coach neither of them make the cut IMO.
Here's a question...does Abreu belong on there? Not my favorite player but he had the stats zed longevity (compared to the others) to be in the conversation.
abreus numbers are pretty sick....he def deserves it way more than a victorino or brett myers
also i agree on kruk but juan was incredible....hes kinda like the baseball version of randall
heidi is DEALIN
Juan really was amazing. I was pissed when he got traded to the Mets.
he really was juan of a kind
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: SD on July 14, 2013, 03:07:19 PM
A lot of the players they put on the wall for reasons other than what they did on the field...hello John Kruk and Juan Samuel. If Kruk isn't the baseball personality he is and Sammy isn't a coach neither of them make the cut IMO.
Here's a question...does Abreu belong on there? Not my favorite player but he had the stats zed longevity (compared to the others) to be in the conversation.
abreus numbers are pretty sick....he def deserves it way more than a victorino or brett myers
also i agree on kruk but juan was incredible....hes kinda like the baseball version of randall
I agree on Abreu - he was just a good player.
Kruk and Daulton are (to this point) the only representatives of the '93 team. Dykstra would be some day if it wasn't for his personal / legal issues - that's doubtful now. Schilling is the only other player likely to be added.
And Samuel was the man.
LA is getting in at some point but thats more for being a broadcaster than 93
hollins figures to be next if they need someone from 93?
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:32:13 PM
LA is getting in at some point but thats more for being a broadcaster than 93
hollins figures to be next if they need someone from 93?
Don't see Hollins getting in. Too short an effective starter, and some allegations of steroids.
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
Juan really was amazing. I was pissed when he got traded to the Mets.
i was crushed....at the time he was my favorite player in the city...one of my first really clear sports memories was his rookie year and me wanting him so badly to get 20 triples...if i wasnt watching the game id get up and run to the newspaper the next morn to see the box score hoping to find 3B - Samuel (20)
he would have been so sick if he just had better plate discipline...his strikeout totals were crazy
Jesus Christ that was awful. Come on, HOF.
Here it is, the Hamels meltdown. Does he pitch his way out of it or fold under the pressure. Charlie needs to threaten to take him out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
Juan really was amazing. I was pissed when he got traded to the Mets.
i was crushed....at the time he was my favorite player in the city...one of my first really clear sports memories was his rookie year and me wanting him so badly to get 20 triples...if i wasnt watching the game id get up and run to the newspaper the next morn to see the box score hoping to find 3B - Samuel (20)
he would have been so sick if he just had better plate discipline...his strikeout totals were crazy
Yeah... Samuel had the high-strikeout totals of the powerhitters (led the league four years in a row). Todd would have hated him because of his low on base percentage and (accordingly) OPS numbers. But he was electrifying to watch.
If somehow they had managed to keep Julio Franco and Ryne Sandberg...
the first hits were bullshtein...bad luck and thats been the case of cole this year
but he hasnt pitched his way out of it.
Quote from: SD on July 14, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
Here it is, the Hamels meltdown. Does he pitch his way out of it or fold under the pressure. Charlie needs to threaten to take him out.
the humidity has to be wreaking havoc on his vagina
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:42:29 PM
the first hits were bullshtein...bad luck and thats been the case of cole this year
but he hasnt pitched his way out of it.
Sounds a lot like Lee last year.
I shut it off. I refuse to watch another meltdown.
he belongs on the wall of fame simply for having the best jerry curl in mlb history
HUGE
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 03:43:52 PM
I shut it off. I refuse to watch another meltdown.
you just missed a fantastic 5-4-3 dp. Keep it off, you're bad luck.
i turned it back on just in time.
farg off.
dude can sing, yo. goddamn.
Hamels should hit fourth.
Young should hit himself in the face with his bat.
young should be a yankee this week
Pathetic at bat, Chase.
white sox have a god complex right now
lol hawk is so smug
his team is down 3-1 and are about to hold a fire sale...but theres a strikeout so he has to arrogantly say "he gone!" like it matters
That Brown ab mirrored Howard's average ab
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
lol hawk is so smug
his team is down 3-1 and are about to hold a fire sale...but theres a strikeout so he has to arrogantly say "he gone!" like it matters
hawk + sd on EI today FTL
no wheels/tmac FTW
here we go
Insurance run with that lead off double last inning would be huge right now
he sounds like a retarded toothless okie. i hate that prick.
ps: he said "we" roughly fifty times today. as in "we" need to win, etc. no you don't, dickface. "they" need to win or get a hit or whatever. third rate homer.
someone is going yard this inning
lol hawk is unreal
feeble at-bats as usual. nice work shteinheads.
wow that was weak....not one good swing in the entire inning
dunn is terrible
pete happy makes that play
is steve stone dead or something?
hawk screaming "YES" when dook stole that base was hilarious
Nice rare throw there by Delmon
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
lol hawk is so smug
his team is down 3-1 and are about to hold a fire sale...but theres a strikeout so he has to arrogantly say "he gone!" like it matters
hawk + sd on EI today FTL
no wheels/tmac FTW
Papelbon FTL
he blew another save. unbelievable.
lol hawk "have ANOTHER meeting out there BOYS!!"
haha hamels doesnt get the win
what a meaningful stat
Pap smear strikes again. Looking at 3 extra inning games in 2 days.
farg that redneck
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
lol hawk "have ANOTHER meeting out there BOYS!!"
lol hes on a different planet...its unreal
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 14, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
lol hawk "have ANOTHER meeting out there BOYS!!"
lol hes on a different planet...its unreal
you cant even hate him
"we'll keep running him out there." "he's going thru a tough stretch." "you dance with who brung ya!"
haha big time boos for papeldouche
maybe he was out celebrating zimmerman verdict last night...or maybe hes just a pos....both?
Anyone catch the look on Paps face when he was getting boo'd heading back to the dugout? Can't wait for the post game comments cause they're coming.
the worst part about paps is that hes so arrogant and cocky even when he sucks
ill always love lidge cause when he was at his worst he showed tons of humility
literally as paps was walking off the mound the nats scored to take the lead against the marlins in extra innings
braves are gonna lose
HE GAWN
lol @ that at bat by chooch
good lord
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
lol @ that at bat by chooch
good lord
is it possible to have negative trade value?
I tried listening to those clowns and lasted a whole 5 minutes before my head exploded. Haven't heard the word "we" used that much in my entire life.
Papsmear farging up everyone's vacation plans. Hope that farger doesn't return from his summer break.
Franzke / LA on mlb.tv FTW.
leggggo german
steve stone must be hungover or something because hawk has been going solo for a while now
this is beyond fp or rob dibble or the marlins funholes. jesus.
Quote from: SD on July 14, 2013, 04:31:40 PM
Anyone catch the look on Paps face when he was getting boo'd heading back to the dugout? Can't wait for the post game comments cause they're coming.
priceless although my screaming "you stupid piece of trailer park trash" drowned out most of it.
i dont know why but i laugh out loud everytime i see john mcdonald in a game
im so glad the sox have quit this year
JOHN MCDONALD!
how obvious was that
Good to see Ronald McDonald going to the Michael Young school of grounding into double plays.
Has it been brought up how much "we" despise papelboner?
seriously, they ain't getting squat for him or chooch on the market.
were those actual GRIT boos?
Quote from: Don Ho on July 14, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
Has it been brought up how much "we" despise papelboner?
seriously, they ain't getting squat for him or chooch on the market.
romey loved the deal
GRIT definitely deserves a 3 year extension...who doesnt want to see this defense in 2017?
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
GRIT definitely deserves a 3 year extension...who doesnt want to see this defense in 2017?
phillie fo life
holla
hawk is going to lose it if the phils win
Quote from: MDS on July 14, 2013, 04:54:09 PM
hawk is going to lose it if the phils win
haha def
that was a GRITty at bat
god complex again
come on HOF....sit back
wow he had a rip at it there
good enough i suppose
lol at walking ruf to get to delolmon
this is the series that will not end
Can't wait to see how they farg this opportunity up...
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 14, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Can't wait to see how they farg this opportunity up...
weak dribbler back to the pitcher out at home
HE GAWN
he home!
AAA
braves --
nats 6
phils 6.5
.500
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
And MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAyberry = mediocrity!
somewhere in houston J is making october plans
LETS DO IT GO TEAM
so phifer gets one all star inning and goes on sat?
kendrick-hamels-lee-bone-lannan is whats expected
thats stupid....i know kk has pitched well but you gotta put your best available pitcher out front to hopefully set a tone coming out of the break
maybe they flip kk and hamels but thats what zolecki mentioned a day or two ago
so mike youngs fielding and AAAberrys hitting won the weekend
maybe there is something to jays thinking
elias: the phillies had never had a series of 3+ games in which each game went to extra innings before this weekend
when aaa hit that hot shot up the middle i actually thought of jay losing his mind in some honky tonk in houston.
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
when aaa hit that hot shot up the middle i actually thought of jay losing his mind in some honky tonk in houston.
jay might have given himself a hot shot
Quote from: Rome on July 14, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
when aaa hit that hot shot up the middle i actually thought of jay losing his mind in some honky tonk in houston.
A hidden camera caught Jay's reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ee_yKwMU8
he is gonna kick so much ass when he sees this.
Ahahah...fargers.
Yoooooo the bandwagon is in FULL effect, fellas. Get on or get run the farg over!
Losing Revere hurts. Smug said they've got Cesar learning CF in the minors now.
when they win 85 games and finish 4 back of a playoff spot will you be proud of yourself
Serious Business
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPVYZo6CIAIMk4f.jpg:large)
arkansas farg
Serious indifference.
4-0 leads get that face.
fri - kendrick vs hefner
sat - heidi vs wheeler
sun - phifer vs harvey
considering the next 6 are at detroit and st louis, they probably need to sweep
have the advantage fri and sat. sunday should be great. its all on lee.
do you trust him
yankee stadium game one or 4-0 cardinals at home??
since he knows its big and since they HAVE to win id say cardinals 4-0 at home
i dont trust him or papeldouche with my life
it wont be a must win when they lose the first two games.....so what you are saying is to then expect a cg shutout?
11-0 Phils, middle of the third.
lolz
11-3 now. farging Kendrick.
I can still hear Marlon Byrd's theme music playing at a near empty Vet as he walked up to the plate to lead off...
I can't believe he's still playing in the majors. Christ...
if hes not on steroids then i dont know who is
I can hear Joe Garagiola right now: "Baseball is a game of inches..."
dc lost
say hello to 2nd place stillupfront's moms
Hamels being Hamels.
So I was talking to an old college friend while watching Hamels screw up the first inning. This college friend was trying to convince me that Kendrick - yes, Kyle Kendrick - was a "valid ace."
:sly
Parnell got lucky there. Nearly blew that game for the Mets.
Heidi now 4-12.
hamels was awful
if they dont win tomorrow it could get real bad real quick
6/144
whats the o/u on phillie hits today?
harveys stuff looks real good
buckle in lolee
theres the one run the mets needed
maybe they can get harvey out by the 7th?
SELL PLEASE
mike sellers
by next sunday they might be 4 or 5 under and 10 out
is that it if thats the case?
smugl is too stubborn and full of himself to ever admit failure and selling would be doing just that
harvey is so good
they need to deal lee asap
season hanging by a thread...hamels and lee
9 IP, 9 ER
phifer has given up seven hr in his last 11 ip
in eight minor league seasons ligaras never hit more than seven home runs in a season
Nice to see Lee step up again when really needed. Did he get into Heidi's feminine hormone stash?
Harvey is eating these douchebags for lunch.
lannan-bone-kendrick at st lou
hamels-lee-lannan at detroit
o/u is 1.5 wins
speaking of stubborn how frustrating is phifer continuing to throw strikes when he shouldn't....its unreal
when is training camp
rooks tomorrow!!!
is J even alive?
he was buying playoff tickets on friday, now hes got to be slitting his wrists
nice day for HOF
Sell.
im still furious over that ligaras at bat....how do you go near the plate with two outs and the batter behind in the count
thats lee...hes streaky. he doesnt have over powering stuff like harvey. he can get on rolls where everything is out over the plate and its homer city and he can get on rolls where hes hitting the black, keeping hitters off balance and rolling through the lineup.
im not sure thats worth 20 mil but who am i to question smug
but that at bat wasnt a "stuff' issue....its a mentality issue....you don't have to have good stuff to throw one in the dirt and not constantly be all over the plate....he doesn't believe in wasting a pitch ever
they lose 2-0 or 5-0
one loss closer to rube trading michael young for a low A pitcher
your point
99.999999999999999% sure Lee wasn't winning without the Phillies scoring a run for him. Still, between him and Cole sucking the life out of their chances this weekend, it's time to S-E-L-L.
Close thread.
braves also lost 2/3....igy's nats swept
if hamels is a .500 pitcher theyre in first place
Quote from: MDS on July 21, 2013, 08:16:01 PM
if hamels is a .500 pitcher theyre in first place
You mean, if he had more
wins the Phillies would lead the division? Interesting.
no
lol.....oooops
nice paplebon signing there roob....
QuoteBut even if they do decide to listen on Jonathan Papelbon, other teams increasingly view him as practically untradeable.
"He's just not that valuable with that contract," says one AL exec. "If the Phillies want premium players back, they'd have to take half the contract [which has two years, worth $26 million, remaining, plus a vesting $13 million option]. I don't see any team giving up an A-list prospect and taking that entire contract. You'd be taking the worst two or three years of a bad deal and giving them a premium prospect. That just doesn't make sense."
if they get can get a top tier prospect for half of papelbons salary it should have been done last week
they print money but dont print good baseball players
is there one phillies player who is better, at their position, than someone on the cardinals?
Apparently the Phils are going to give Brian Wilson a look. (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/phils-peek-wilson-review-hernandez-status)
And :-D :paranoid :boom at Michael Young. Not exactly Michael Jack at third.
QuoteManuel was not happy with the approach of Phillies' hitters against Miller. The Phillies' hacking ways stood in stark contrast to the patient Cardinals, who racked up excellent at-bats with a lineup loaded with .300-plus hitters.
lol...if only he could do anything about how his team approaches hitting. if only he had the power.
Quote from: MDS on July 24, 2013, 01:19:56 AM
QuoteManuel was not happy with the approach of Phillies' hitters against Miller. The Phillies' hacking ways stood in stark contrast to the patient Cardinals, who racked up excellent at-bats with a lineup loaded with .300-plus hitters.
lol...if only he could do anything about how his team approaches hitting. if only he had the power.
power?....you mean like getting 250 rbi a year from choke and GRIT
the farging nats and braves keep losing giving smug a false sense of hope...the real hope might be in the mets getting within a game or even catching them this week
power as in control, dummy
as in if he doesnt like jimmy rollins hacking at everything he can start...john mcdonald?...to prove a point. i guess.
i knew what you meant idiot
did you, drunkie?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2013, 07:04:30 AM
the farging nats and braves keep losing giving smug a false sense of hope...the real hope might be in the mets getting within a game or even catching them this week
That's what's killing me. Braves keep losing and Nats can't get out of there own way. Of course Smugness will take credit for this.
Quote"No stone unturned," said GM Ruben Amaro Jr.,
Oh go farg yourself.
HOF has concussion-like symptoms from that stupid dive in last night's game and is out until Friday. Awesome
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 24, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
HOF has concussion-like symptoms from that stupid dive in last night's game and is out until Friday. Awesome
that is awesome......you arent rooting for them to win right now are you?
you know the answer to that...why did you even ask
I mean, how can you not when the outgoing manager is throwing out lines like this:
Quote"That's about what we have," Manuel said of Martinez. "They said he was playing good, hitting .290-something. They said he was playing good and that's what they sent us."
Humberto was DFAed to make room
allen craig hitting .390 with risp
farging silly
SELL!!!
QuoteAmaro engaged Manuel in an extended talk after the defeat. Then Amaro closed the door to the coaches' room and held a lengthy meeting with Manuel's staff. When it was complete, Amaro declined to comment.
please sell
PLEASE
« Reply #650 on: April 18, 2013, 04:06:36 PM »
All is well in the world.
Seriously though, fire amaro, fire Charlie. Let's be sellers not buyers, pawn off all assets of value for young cheap talent. Success doesn't mean shtein if you can't back it up. The Phillies won the lottery and now are in position where it's time to declare bankruptcy. This shouldn't be a surprise if you have had any perspective at all over the past 5 years. This ship was sinking before it won the world series.
[/quote]
I can see the future.
Implode, detonate, explode, disintegrate, melt, trash, burn, bury, euthanize, do whatever it farging takes.
At this point I don't want them to do anything other than fire Smug. Keep the team intact until the offseason. They're not getting anything of value for these over the hill losers anyway. I mean, seriously, who are they getting for Chase Utley at the deadline? Papelbon? Just let these douchebags have their last three months together, fire Smug, hire a new GM & Manager and completely start to rebuild.
Quote from: Chameleon on July 25, 2013, 01:37:13 AM
« Reply #650 on: April 18, 2013, 04:06:36 PM »
All is well in the world.
Seriously though, fire amaro, fire Charlie. Let's be sellers not buyers, pawn off all assets of value for young cheap talent. Success doesn't mean shtein if you can't back it up. The Phillies won the lottery and now are in position where it's time to declare bankruptcy. This shouldn't be a surprise if you have had any perspective at all over the past 5 years. This ship was sinking before it won the world series.
I can see the future.
[/quote]
huh?
you realize that most sane people were calling for a fire sale LAST summer?
Sounds like Amaro is working on an extension for Utley. (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/contract-extension-utley-sure-feels-it)
sounds like utley wants to lose for the rest of his career
Ex-farging-tention!
I say keep him. He's too injury prone to get you anything of value, but when he's in the lineup, he still performs at an elite level. As long as he's cheaper, keep him. It's not like they're gonna add their future 2nd baseman anytime within the next two years.
I'd be happy with a mid level prospect for him.
I'd be happy ridding the team of 75-100 million dollars in dead wood and starting over.
1st & 2nd none out in the first and then 1-2-3.
Oh by all means buy, Roob. COMPRAR¡
Phils release Carlos Zambrano
cards have crazy good at bats by everyone in the lineup almost every plate appearance....their discipline is uncanny
steve susdorf and michael martinez are on this roster
Cliff Lee scratched from his start tomorrow with a stiff neck.
Raul Valdes to start
sell
it was only 1-0 (and thats all he will get) but how many leads has cole blown this year?
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2013, 08:37:57 PM
it was only 1-0 (and thats all he will get) but how many leads has cole blown this year?
he did that when he was good.....he always blinks first
2-1 game in the 8th against arguably the best team in the majors with their season hanging by a thread and luis garcia is in
SELL
not in terms of the season but for a young player that was a huge spot for ruf and he couldn't have failed more miserably
he stinks
darrin ruf is ty wiggerton....a mediocre hitter with some pop who cant play a position
No one gives a shtein any more. Players, FO, fans, nobody. Always get excited for a series with the Cardinals and hardly watched any of it. Tigers, I should be jacked but turned it off after three. Just unbearable to watch this double A lineup trot out there every night.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 26, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
not in terms of the season but for a young player that was a huge spot for ruf and he couldn't have failed more miserably
he stinks
that last swing or whatever the hell we want to call it kind of summed everything up.
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
darrin ruf is ty wiggerton....a mediocre hitter with some pop who cant play a position
but fans have been screaming for two years to replace choke with him?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 26, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
darrin ruf is ty wiggerton....a mediocre hitter with some pop who cant play a position
but fans have been screaming for two years to replace choke with him?
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
ryan howard is ty wiggerton....a mediocre hitter with some pop who cant play a position
Wowow!
Phils signed that Cuban pitcher - 6yrs $50m!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 26, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
Wowow!
Phils signed that Cuban pitcher - 6yrs $50m!
previous high was 2 mil on an international guy
its only 50 mil...they threw 125 down the drain on choke...so what the farg
they said he was basically ML ready. for that much im guessing hes a starter?
Maybe he can start instead of Valdes tomorrow.
this means they are buyers now right?.....deplete the hideous farm system even more than it already is...resign GRIT to a stupid deal...have paps for two more terrible years and set the franchise back 15 instead of five years
or does it mean they are huge sellers now....phifer and GRIT go for a decent package to replenish the farm...paps is saving game six of the world series for Detroit...and gonzo is a foundation piece
From what I've read Detroit has no interest in Papelbon. Evidently are willing to ride what they have. Could be smoke, but the Phils will have to eat at least half of that deal and still may not get more than a middling prospect.
Which may still be better than paying Papelbon full price over the next two years to recover from Tommy John surgery.
as the smug turns....
smug couldn't have known he was getting MAG before just a few hours ago...if anything this changes his approach
of course the lee business is either hes getting dealt or now if you want him youre trading for a pitcher with neck issues
its not about being sure that he would get him...its abut him going after gonzo hardcore as a way to save this season in his mind
smugs biggest downfall is not being able to look big picture....he always is trying to win now o that people don't look at him as a failure....which is weird because gillick was the exact opposite
the phillies are not a big picture team...organizationally even
they wont trade utley because the marketing department wont let them. remember they didnt sign eddie murray (or was it paul molitor) because management thought hed be too boring to sell.
bill giles is a small time clown minor league loser and his culture has continued to permeate itself in the ballclub, save for the 3 years under gillick who is a winner and delivered a winner.
small time is such a good description
they are like the 79 year old women who hit the 500 million dollar power ball
people hate on josh harris but id much rather have him as owner than this phillie debacle
the silent partners are straight biddness-men...only care about that dollar
middleton might or might not really want to win but hes had 30 years to show it and clearly values privacy and profit over winning. otherwise he wouldve stepped up long ago and made some noise.
thusly, youre left with monty running the show and he is giles protege. monty at his core wants to win but not as badly as he wants to run a profitable, classy organization that puts on a good show (essentially a minor league team). it took him eons to fire ed wade and its going to be even longer with boobin.
so josh ftw??
it remains to be seen but if youre ranking philly owners
1- ed the legend
2- jeffy
3- josh
4- monty and the silent partners
well now we know how the phils bagged gonzo....buster olney is saying he has elbow issues
The short baseball nerd (can't remember his name) that works on the Fox broadcasts just said that he doesn't believe that the Phils will trade Lee.
I doubt they trade him unless they're blown away with an offer. They'll go into next year with Hamels/Lee/Cuban defector/Pettibone/Kendrick, add some bp help and tell us it's a new day.
with the cuban guy they dont even really have a spot for biddle and martin, unless they trade lee
also maikel franco continues to tear it up in AA but michael young and laynce nix need to....i give up
Knowing these fargtards they're probably keeping Franco down because of service time. Can't have him make it to the Majors too soon because the $$$ clock starts ticking as soon as he does.
Quote from: Rome on July 27, 2013, 05:05:49 PM
Knowing these fargtards they're probably keeping Franco down because of service time. Can't have him make it to the Majors too soon because the $$$ clock starts ticking as soon as he does.
yeah but why would you waste service time on a team like this....its not like they have a chance for a postseason run if only they just had a better 3rd baseman
phifer scratched
If you're good enough to play in the Majors service time shouldn't be an issue. He's hitting .370 at arguably the best level of the minors. Bring him up and see what he can do.
don't get me wrong I wouldn't be mad if they brought him up...but if service is really an issue this is the time to save it because the team sucks and is going nowhere
if it gives you an extra year of control by saving him until Clearwater next year by all means that what they should do
lol at this lineup
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2013, 07:08:45 PM
don't get me wrong I wouldn't be mad if they brought him up...but if service is really an issue this is the time to save it because the team sucks and is going nowhere
if it gives you an extra year of control by saving him until Clearwater next year by all means that what they should do
they arent tampa bay or pittsburgh, who need to play those games. they can bring a guy up. if you dont do it now surely you dont do it out of spring training next year...which means someone has to fail in order for him to get a look next season.
meanwhile, jayson heyward, given a shot at age 20, is on the braves.
The Phillies play in the fifth largest market in the country and have that market all to themselves, yet they still act like a bunch of backwoods Okies.
Quote from: MDS on July 27, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 27, 2013, 07:08:45 PM
don't get me wrong I wouldn't be mad if they brought him up...but if service is really an issue this is the time to save it because the team sucks and is going nowhere
if it gives you an extra year of control by saving him until Clearwater next year by all means that what they should do
they arent tampa bay or pittsburgh, who need to play those games. they can bring a guy up. if you dont do it now surely you dont do it out of spring training next year...which means someone has to fail in order for him to get a look next season.
meanwhile, jayson heyward, given a shot at age 20, is on the braves.
heyward made the team out of spring training
if franco can do that next year more power to him....but theres absolutely no reason to bring him up now and waste a service year...again I want to see him like everyone else....but if they chose to save him I have no problem with it either....a couple more months in AA would serve him better than coming up to this debacle anyway
Quote from: Rome on July 27, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
The Phillies play in the fifth largest market in the country and have that market all to themselves, yet they still act like a bunch of backwoods Okies.
theres being cheap and theres being smart....in this case it would probably be smart to leave him down....and trust me id be the first person to call them out for being cheap
you do know hes 20 years old and hes not a god prospect like manny machado or hof heyward...he was an unknown free agent whos had a great last year in the minors at age 19-20....hes not GRIT at 23 years old after playing in college or choke being held down for what seemed like decades
i genuinely feel bad for valdez right now
jesus charlie what are you doing
Now it's just plain unwatchable.
valdez def farged mrs manuel.....IN FRONT front of chuckles
who pitches the 8th tonight....mcdonald or susdorf?
god jimmy
I went to the Ft. Myers Miracle vs Clearwater Threshers game tonight. The Threshers committed five errors, including one to lose the game in the 9th inning after tying it in the top.
Glad to see "the Phillies way" is working its way through the minor league system
And LOL at you guys for being stuck watching that travesty tonight.
worst phillies start since this
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI199605110.shtml
1996 in the house. word up mike benjamin.
start of what?....its basically august
start...pitcher start.
let me rephrase: worst start by a phillies pitcher since...
next time I should probably hit the link
charlie should be fired for what he did to that guy
charlie clearly doesnt give a shtein anymore...hes just farging around. he knows hes not coming back and he knows hes playing a busted hand.
if monty wasnt such a colassal small time phony heads wouldve rolled weeks ago
smug cant come back right?
oh my god without a doubt he is...i mean he shouldve never gotten the job to begin with...but hes absolutely getting 1-2 more cracks at this thing. maybe more.
it depends how bad the attendance gets and how bad the vitriol gets toward rube. it took them forever and a day to fire wade, and he wasnt the gm when they won 3 nl east titles.
you are probably right.....I guess im just hoping they become a grown up big boy franchise and jettison that small time pos
but that's not going to happen until this motley crew of owners sell
only good thing about ownership is its fairly old...bentz is prehistoric, the buck brothers are already dropping, middleton aint young, monty is getting up there, giles is 100
it might take a decade but eventually SOMETHING has to give
I just want one of these teams to be good.....is that asking too much?
a top 5 big market city with four teams has not participated in a playoff game in well over a year
how is this possible?
because god, who doesnt exist, hates your city
there is no god jew
what year do the phils next make the playoffs?
2016
ill go with that as the earliest
im trying to be optimistic here...maybe MAG is the second coming and not a shook Hoyda bitch like cole
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2013, 01:13:21 AM
worst phillies start since this
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI199605110.shtml
1996 in the house. word up mike benjamin.
(http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/mike_mimbs_autograph.jpg)
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2013, 01:13:21 AM
worst phillies start since this
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI199605110.shtml
1996 in the house. word up mike benjamin.
I blame it all on that one pinch hitter.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2013, 02:06:34 AM
a top 5 big market city with four teams has not participated in a playoff game in well over a year
how is this possible?
It happens. I don't think Boston had any playoff teams between the Sox losing the '99 ALCS and the Patriots winning the Super Bowl at the beginning of 2002. The scary thing about this current stretch is that all four teams have so many problems, it's not clear when any of them will make the playoffs again.
I think the Flyers will make the playoffs next year. The NHL has so many playoff teams it would have to be a total breakdown again for them not to be at least a bottom seed.
As for these mutts, this is what the end of an era looks like. shtein ends because it's bad and this is the worst laydown I've ever seen. It is expected because of the injuries and general entropy of the elders, but still... shocking after a 102 win season two years ago.
BLOW. IT. UP. Starting with the architect of this abomination.
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 28, 2013, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2013, 02:06:34 AM
a top 5 big market city with four teams has not participated in a playoff game in well over a year
how is this possible?
It happens. I don't think Boston had any playoff teams between the Sox losing the '99 ALCS and the Patriots winning the Super Bowl at the beginning of 2002. The scary thing about this current stretch is that all four teams have so many problems, it's not clear when any of them will make the playoffs again.
yeah im sure its happened its just so frustrating.....but also patriots are not a boston team....they play and are headquartered closer to providence than boston
its one thing to just not have talent but thats not an excuse for having a disgraceful approach at the plate...which is what almost every phillie has...young or old
how is chuckles known as a hitting genius?
If you have eight free lancers who know Cholly is history why would they give a farg what he has to say. Again, Cholly is a lot of things, most of them bad, but he's actually a great hitting coach. It's not his fault the dipshteins they have playing the game refuse to listen to him.
WOW.....that is horrible
leyland has to go with him
that could be the single worst piece of umpiring/reffing I have ever seen
i would put anyone on earth in the outfield before i put laynce nix there again
what a catch GRIT
SELL
Time to take Diekman behind the barn and put him out of his misery.
olney tweeted that the amaro called teams and said hes ready to talk. lee not on the list, utley apparently not either.
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
olney tweeted that the amaro called teams and said hes ready to talk. lee not on the list, utley apparently not either.
then whats the farging point
get a wet mop for michael young?
what the hell is going on right now
Wastebasket full of used condoms for Diekman and a schlep to be named later.
They're making a movie on the 2013 Phillies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF6De-XP7x4
haha this team is funny
good god
11-3. What.
well you gotta give them credit for not beating around the bush
they are collapsing just in time to get a low level A prospect for young
stretching a single into a double down eight is always advisable
gold cup final comin up
watching your country own some 3rd world latin america ass > this shtein
Had to turn off the TV because of a big thunderstorm. Thank God for weather.
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
gold cup final comin up
watching your country own some 3rd world latin america ass > this shtein
I don't know what the gold cup is or that it was today but I would do a lot of unsavory things for the us to lose
get the farg out then, traitor
benIGYdict havas
if I could get rid of soccer forever I would sell barrys soul to the chinese
Nice history lesson here. More smalltime behavior from the Phils. (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9515914&categoryid=2378529)
Also brutal journalism skills to not ask Carpenter how he would have responded to Giles question.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2013, 04:42:45 PM
if I could get rid of soccer forever I would sell barrys soul to the chinese
Or you could just ignore it and stop wasting everyone's time by commenting on something you don't like or understand.
I know that goes against your "I have an opinion on everything that is more valuable than whale vomit" grain, but just give it a shot.
to be fair soccer is awful, but to be fair america excelling in international athletic competition trumps that
I'll buy that.
fair
not the guy you want steppin to, but its something
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130728&content_id=55050238¬ebook_id=55068698&vkey=notebook_phi&c_id=phi
Make Papsmear the GM!
Quote"Oh, man," he said. "We could be here all day."
So then what about this team's ability to turn things around, if not this season, then next season?
"It's going to take, in my opinion, a lot," he said. "And in my opinion, I think it's going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom."
so top to bottom except for phifer and GRIT?
First and foremost ship that flag back to Boston where he belongs.
hes barely hitting 90 and boston and detroit seem to be doing fine bullpen wise
another winner for ruin
i didn't say the red sox would want him, just that he should be shipped back there, preferably in a pine box.
i can't stand when players rip the team they play for. "i didn't come here for this." yeah, no shtein, you farging loser.
he came here for the biggest contract ever given to a closer....period end of story
he never wanted to leave boston and wants to go back there now in the worst way
he signed basically before the market opened up....he saw that offer and jumped on it. cant blame him but he needs to zip it.
lol...he jumped on the largest deal given to a closer in the history of the sport
He's right though...it's rotten from the too down.
people are way overblowing this.....theres nothing rotten about it....three years ago we knew this team would be all getting old and breaking down at the same time
whats happening now is EXACTLY what was predicted....nothing more nothing else
There's nothing rotten?
The president and the GM and the assistant GM are rotten.
so are the fans that were parading down broad street when they sold the farm to get oswalt and pence
rube needs to go no doubt.....but its not like this team would be good with pat gillick as the gm.....the difference is the future would be a lot better
they were going to be terrible this year no matter what
well i mean gillick might not have given choke 125 or traded lee the first time around or signed papeldouche...theres tons of armchair gming you can do to fix this team
but based on who had they had on the roster, once 2011 happened, yeah it was over
Quote from: MDS on July 28, 2013, 11:21:43 PM
well i mean gillick might not have given choke 125 or traded lee the first time around or signed papeldouche...theres tons of armchair gming you can do to fix this team
thats what i mean by the future being better....not the team
the future isnt going to be any better because smug has to win 2014...or at least he feels he has to
which is why at best young, ruiz, delmon young, maybe kendrick get traded
next year is going to be much of the same, if not worse. especially if they godfather utley and keep cesar and galvis in limbo (remind you of how they treated hof?)
Gillick would have made the Howard deal. Every GM in the sport would have at the time. That's the truth despite the fact it turned out to be a huge mistake. The mistake Amaro made was putting all his eggs in the pitching basket. He modeled the team after the 90's Braves and no one bothered to remind that smug dickface that the Braves only won (1) championship with that model, and they didn't build the team around 30-something pitchers either. Glavine, Smoltz & Maddux weren't all nearing the downside of their careers back then like Lee, Halladay & Oswalt. In fact when they won the thing they were all in their late 20's.
the choke deal was crushed at the time...you gave 5/125 2.5 YEARS before he was due to a big bodied hr hitter. historically those guys break down. and howard was already regressing for the last 1.5 years when he signed it.
even so...why not wait, i dont know, 2 more years before locking him up? he was still under your control until 2011. jesus.
Why did the Angels give Pujols the deal they gave him or Josh Hamilton? Why did the Tigers give Prince Fielder that deal? Or how about Texiera & A-Rod for that matter?
Sluggers get huge deals and they almost never live up to them. It's not just Choke, dude.
fielder has...some of that may be due to cabrera, though
but yes. sluggers dont live up to their deals. so why give them one?
Fielder was 27 when he got paid. Howard was 31. Huge difference. And we'll see how Fielder is looking at age 33.
I disagree. I think with Gillick, the Phils are still pretty good. Maybe not legit WS contenders, but they're still a playoff team....or are at least in the mix. The core players would still be old, but I don't think Gillick drops $50mil on a closer or sells the farm. They won a WS on his watch so he wouldn't feel the same pressure to duplicate it at all costs like Rube has. Even if he gives Choke his contract, I think he spends the other money he has more wisely than Rube. For Pap's salary alone, they could have added a couple decent bats to the lineup.
Apparently the Phils had a scout watching Carlos Martinez last night. Get.
rube wants the farm for lee
rube cant trade papelbon because everyone knows he sucks
rube wont trade utley because he wants to work out an extension with a 35 year old organization clogging second baseman with a degenerative knee issue
rube cant trade jimmy because hes 10-5
but im sure it all turns around in 2014 and they win the world series!
HPV can still pitch but him shooting his come dumpster off and the albatross contract make his departure all but impossible unless they pick up a large share.
charlie just said on the radio that chase utley is probably a 130 game a year player for another couple of years.....probably true but also probably not info you should be putting out there 48 hours before the trade deadline
charlie when asked about his contract and coming back next year says: "i got 99 problems but a contract aint one"
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
charlie just said on the radio that chase utley is probably a 130 game a year player for another couple of years.....probably true but also probably not info you should be putting out there 48 hours before the trade deadline
Phils aren't moving him, so it really doesn't matter. He could be a 30 game a year player and he's still making them boatloads of money in jersey sales.
michael young supposedly on his way out....asche has been called up
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Rosenthal says he only approved a deal to Texas
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 30, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
charlie just said on the radio that chase utley is probably a 130 game a year player for another couple of years.....probably true but also probably not info you should be putting out there 48 hours before the trade deadline
Phils aren't moving him, so it really doesn't matter. He could be a 30 game a year player and he's still making them boatloads of money in jersey sales.
yea no they are not trying to keep him around specifically for jersey sales
Smug will be on the MLB network in the next 10 minutes
Rosenthal is sticking to Young only going back to the Rangers
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2013, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 30, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
charlie just said on the radio that chase utley is probably a 130 game a year player for another couple of years.....probably true but also probably not info you should be putting out there 48 hours before the trade deadline
Phils aren't moving him, so it really doesn't matter. He could be a 30 game a year player and he's still making them boatloads of money in jersey sales.
yea no they are not trying to keep him around specifically for jersey sales
No shtein, Jewstin Beiber. It's called exaggerating.....or, hyperbole.
Chooooooooooooooooooooooooch!
How bad has the offense been?
The home run payoff winner banked $800.
jbj pinch hit for in the pawsox game
goodbye phifer?
Jewstin Bieber cracked me up.
Phillies are gonna end up standing pat. No one out there, including the Red Sox, was willing to give up valuable prospects AND take on most of Lee's contract, and the Phils aren't willing to eat that kind of money. Utley is worth more to the Phils (who need next year to not be an abortion if they want their TV deal to go right) than he would be to any other team. Everyone else the team is willing to trade is seen by the rest of the league as flat-out sucking (either Young), having an impossible contract (Paps), having a no-trade clause and wanting to stay (JRoll) or being so old they are near worthless (Chooch).
They could still make a small trade, but they won't be getting anything like the future of the club in exchange. Just some journeymen and/or going-nowhere minor leaguers. So what's the farging point.
everyone is easily tradeable on the team except for choke
are they going to get cant miss prospects in every deal def not
is it realistic that they trade ALL these guys...of course not
but if they stand pat on all of them except young its because they have to go into next year with roster full of name brand players so people will think they have a chance to win and buy tickets
dont buy into the spin you are going to hear about untradeable contracts and GRIT being worth more to the phillies than say the orioles or dodgers...two teams he literally could win a world series for by putting them over the top....whereas he might help the phillies win 80 games next year instead of 78
in particular if lee doesnt get traded and/or they resign GRIT then the franchise deserves whatever it gets over the next five to seven years which is going to be ugly...lee's value will never be close to what it is right now
I don't think winning a World Series elsewhere means much to the core guys since they already won in Philly. Lee & Young? Sure...
who gives a flying farg
SELL
Easy big fella. I agree with you and I'm on your side.
if jimmy is playing hardball thats one thing...but if hes serious about refusing a trade then its clear he cares more about setting team records than winning. cause he aint winning here and he damn well knows it. but its par for the course of jimmy is care first and foremost about jimmy.
meanwhile GRIT cant be serious about signing an extension. he just cant. every single player on that team save for rookie hof brown and confused immigrant chooch knows this team is complete garbage. if he stays then hes just dumb and/or has 0 interest in winning. which goes directly against his salt of the earth hustle and bustle white man persona.
meanwhile lee is begging to bail and ruin is such a colossal pos he wont do it unless he gets the return of the century. and with the events of this week you can lock in another miserable season next year.
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2013, 02:19:58 PM
if jimmy is playing hardball thats one thing...but if hes serious about refusing a trade then its clear he cares more about setting team records than winning. cause he aint winning here and he damn well knows it. but its par for the course of jimmy is care first and foremost about jimmy.
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Somebody go get Igy off the Walt Whitman. Todd can stay there.
Gee... I'm really glad the Phils didn't trade anybody so they can keep the status quo.
That said, a helluva play by Ashe. Start him the rest of the year.
I was doing the dinner dishes and actually missed that half inning. Hilarious. Just incredible.
i make the mistake of putting on the sound for a second thinking its 7-1 so these two clowns on the mic cant be that bad of homers....and the first thing I hear is wheels talking about how great a job it was a valdes to strike out the 8 hitter because now he gets to the pitcher and can maybe "get out of this thing"
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
Gee... I'm really glad the Phils didn't trade anybody so they can keep the status quo.
That said, a helluva play by Ashe. Start him the rest of the year.
That's the plan. Smug also name dropped Mikael Franco. I'd guess if Asche proves himself they'll work Franco in left or at 1B. Since Howard is the scapegoat for Smug's failures maybe just maybe they get rid of him.
30% of the payroll is going to guys on DL. Would have been even more dead money if they had traded Lee and eaten half his contract too. The disparity between the money going out the door and the actual product on the field is crazy with this team.
Which is why they needed to blow this thing up 2 years ago. There's no possible combination of moves even a competent GM could make to fix this team.
And now since they feel the need to try and extend GRIT (or at least make a show of it so South Jersey moms and various white people don't catch feelings), they are pushing everything back even further. It's maddening but then again we all survived the 1994-2007 run we can survive this.
first thing they need to do is trade the team to brian roberts
Like I told you earlier it's going to take minimum 20 years for the current owners to all die. Old rich white people refuse to go easily. And really it's not even the silent partners...they are just greedy republican money grubbers. They'll spend what they can in order to make a profit.
It's Monty. He runs the organization. It's his call to fire Wade, hire Gillick, groom Amaro, keep Wheeler, etc. And even though he's a Philly boy he's a small time small market woe is me go get em next year loser. He's more Indianapolis than Philly.
it not even the money spent....their payroll is obviously big enough to win....but its money in the sense that they are setting back the franchise year by keeping this group together because on paper it will fill seats
and its money spent on things like international scouting and especially major league scouting....their farm system is a disaster but even more than that is their advanced scouts in the bigs are just horrible...i like monty but hes to small time and not forward thinking at all....and theres absolutely no leadership coming from anywhere in the owners ranks
The Sixers and Eagles have plans for the future. Risky plans that could easily blow up on them, but at least they are trying to reinvent their teams. Ruin has no plan beyond limping the team into a new TV deal. His plan was to win the 2009 or 2010 World Series. Unfortunately he's still on that plan and it's 2013. It's not easy to tease out how much of the current scheme is coming from the owners. Obviously some of it has to be or else they would have gotten a real GM by now.
yankees wanted both my and chooch but smug said no
i quit
smug said he didnt trade michael young because "hes one of the best offensive players on the team right now" and "hes not blocking anyone in the system"
unreal
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 08:25:37 AM
smug said he didnt trade michael young because "hes one of the best offensive players on the team right now" and "hes not blocking anyone in the system"
unreal
lololololol out of touch doesn't even scratch the surface with that farging dope
LOL @ "one of the best offensive players on the team." Not that he's necessarily wrong about that because this team is offensively inept, but we're talking about a guy hitting .280 with like 35 rbi. Are people coming to the stadium to see Michael Young? No. I'd get it if they kept him because they viewed him as a cornerstone to the franchise's future, but he's just an above average hitter who sucks in the field and will spend the next 2 or 3 years DH'ing in the AL or coming off the bench for some spot starts in the NL and pinch hit.
At least with Chooch, you can say he's a fan favorite and linked to the WFC, so even if he sucks there's still some sort of quasi-logical reason for keeping him.
the most unbelievable thing he said is how hes not blocking anyone in the system
1. cody asche was just called up this week
2. how can a 40 year old who is not going to be on the phillies in two months block someone anyway
Ethan Martin called up and starting on Friday
cliff lee refusing to pitch is my guess...he wants off this pos team NOW
the middle of the order tonight is incredible
its literally lehigh valley
Just because someone who's never had a major league hit is batting 5th...
4. ruf
5. asche
6. AAAberry
Jonathan Papelbon, ladies and gents.
Four straight hits to blow the save.
Six blown saves.
Go get some chicken and beer, icehole.
wonder if romey is still good with his deal
haha farg papelbon...this is great. he is such a testable human being, i love it when he fails.
loved tmac getting excited before the bottom of the ninth. its rally time! martinez...asche...AAAberry...lol in the hole
Romo doing his best Papelbon impression.
I think TMac just shot Todd the finger for mocking rally time.
The Los Gigantes are worse than the Phils
A Nix K and a double play coming up...
Well nix flies out
So this sets up the game ending double play!!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2013, 09:48:06 PM
Well nix flies out
So this sets up the game ending double play!!
That ruins my poetry!
"A Nix fly and some double-ply?"
Another shallow fly out.
Two outs.
Lolooloo
this is going to be an incredible loss
so glad smug kept the boys together
No worries. Kratz has this....
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:-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2013, 09:46:44 PM
I think TMac just shot Todd the finger for mocking rally time.
The Los Gigantes are worse than the Phils
this is right up there with his "michael young is hitting .330, ya happy now, bitch?" post
god damnit i love it when homers get got
Hahaha wow what a wonderful pile of shtein that entire inning was.
the silver lining and a reason to watch and root for total implosion is that they have a real chance to get a top 5 pick in next summers draft
that game was PAPELBLOWN.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 10:01:56 PM
the silver lining and a reason to watch and root for total implosion is that they have a real chance to get a top 5 pick in next summers draft
its a real possibility and nothing but a good thing
of course rube could forfeit the pick by signing matt garza or something
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
wonder if romey is still good with his deal
I'm good with a 100 win team spending a ton of money on a closer to get them over the top. Papelbon has been a disaster. Am I happy with the deal? Yes. Am I happy with his performance. No.
Quote from: Rome on August 02, 2013, 07:02:48 AM
Am I happy with the deal? Yes.
lol
even easy legendz and the lil guy who varied from defending it to not having a problem with it would never say right now they are happy with his deal
i applaud your stubborness tho...its gotta be tough being wrong all the time
The deal: (Removing Papelbon from the equation.) Fine With. Top notch closers are very expensive and he was the best available. Again, fine with it in principle.
The performance of the player who received the deal: Not Fine With.
It couldn't be simpler to understand yet you fail miserably. I blame myself, actually. Here I am expecting you to be someone you're not.
youre fine with spending 50 million on someone who pitches for one inning 2-3 times a week?
newsflash. anyone can close. it doesnt take some special god given power or the need to grow weird facial hair and do goofy things (wheels). you just have to be a good relief pitcher who can strike people out. historically, there are very few people who have been able to do that for an extended period of time.
historically, there have been like 100 guys whove been able to do it for a few seasons. the phillies easily could have found one of those guys. instead, they threw a bunch of money at someone whose empty back of the baseball card numbers were good, aka the ruben amaro way.
ryan madson was the closer in 2011. 2 years before that meatheads were frothing at the mouth saying "HE CANT CLOSE HES A SET UP GUY HES NOT CLUTCH RAMBLE RAMBLE WIP WIP LETS GO TO MCDONALDS RAMBLE RAMBLE." well as it turns out he could get people out in the 9th inning when the lead was between 1 and 3 runs.
grant balfour....glenn perkins...koji ouhera...frank rodney....sergio romo....edward mujica....jason grilli---none of these guys were big names, all were readily available over the past 2-3 years, and all are effectively pitching these days. but no. spend 50 million because papelbon, even at his best, is so much better.
I said I was fine with it.
Saw Schilling's introduction on the Wall of Fame. So these pitchers were on the dais: Bunning, Carlton, Schilling...
And tonight's starting pitcher is Ethan Martin.
And he was born after I graduated high school. Sonofabitch.
Damn... nice fastball by the kid.
Martin has some mustard on his fastball...nice.
Ruf and Delmon go back to back.
Dude has 2 first names and one of them is Ethan. Do not like.
Showed some moxie in the fourth inning.
... and fell apart in the fifth.
does anyone have better at bats with less results than erik kratz
he takes pitches...he almost always has good swings...he makes the pitcher work...hell rip a few balls foul......then he strikes out
Michael Martinez should never again pollute the sacred ground of a baseball field with his presence.
cody asche is hate the face guy....he reminds me of johnny football....who i want to punch in the face
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 02, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Michael Martinez should never again pollute the sacred ground of a baseball field with his presence.
Well said. What, when, how, why is what flashes through my head every time I see him on the field.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2013, 10:09:57 PM
cody asche is hate the face guy....he reminds me of johnny football....who i want to punch in the face
Don't forget Cody Ross and Uggla.
hes better than laynce nix who has been a regular for two years on this team
Another awful call by the worst officials in all of pro sports. The MLB umpires are a sorry bunch.
Even Jimmy got tossed out. First time I remember him getting run
hasnt happened since 2004....but thats cause he doesnt care enough to get tossed from a game
jimmy so fake...outrage over delmon young striking out in the bottom of the ninth, down 0-2, with no chance of coming back on kimbrel
theres a time to get mad and time to say whatever its over. causing a scene over that is beneath jimmy. hes a pimp mvp world series winner legend of philly. now hes freakin cause a washed up fake phillie struck out when he didnt. pathetic.
disband the team.
you are one post away from romey pushing you around in the support riley cooper wheel barrow
what?
there might be no one on the planet less fake than jimmy rollins
exactly
so why is he making a scene over some useless call in a useless game of a useless season. that whole thing was so beneath him. thats the kind of thing some roided up hot head douche who never played in a big game in his life freaks over. it aint jimmy.
Record since the all-star break: 2-12.
Good job with that trading deadline, Ruben!
trading deadline lol
That farging fraud didn't even go watch the game tonight - he was at the goddamn soccer game (he got booed).
He should be forced to watch this abortion that he built. Like a dog who shteins on the carpet...Monty needs to rub his nose in it and swat the farg with a paper on his nose.
i hate him as much as anyone but there isnt a gm in the history of baseball that could have stopped what is happening now....it was clear as day three years ago
smug is a pos not cause they suck this year but because they are going to suck for 3-5 years longer than they should because of his delusion stubbornness and inability to look forward
Bullshtein - when Gillick retired if they would've hired a GM who had a clue they could've kept winning. But Monty went back to his archaic ways of keeping it in the family and promoted this farging clown.
The only reason he didn't promote him after he fired Wade was because his precious stadium would've been empty and nothing would've changed.
when you have a group of young guys all come up together at the same time and you keep them intact whats going to happen one day is that they are all going to get old at the same time....this is what you see now
the problem is that they don't have a future either...and that's what is on smug....I knew a few years ago they were gonna be zesty for the middle of this decade....but now you are probably looking at 2020 ish before they are legit again
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 03, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
Bullshtein - when Gillick retired if they would've hired a GM who had a clue they could've kept winning.
you could retrace the steps...dont trade lee the first time...dont trade for oswalt...sign beltre...sign beltran...dont resign choke
but even then utley is still injured, rollins still regresses, doc is still injured, ruiz is still on roids/injured. it wouldnt have added up. sure they couldve maybe been better or made the playoffs last year and this year, but they werent going to win the world series.
the play was to blow it up post 2011 debacle and wait for the turnaround in 13, 14 and 15. but at this point, with smug running the show, they probably wont be a title contender until he is fired. and that will take a few years.
QuoteThe Braves recorded only five hits in their 12-inning victory over the Phillies on Saturday. That's the fewest hits the Braves have had in a win in a game that went 12 or more innings since May 26, 1959 when the Milwaukee Braves beat the Pirates and Harvey Haddix, 1-0, in 13 innings. Haddix had pitched what might have been the greatest game ever and lost. Haddix had a perfect game through 12 innings before losing the game on a Joe Adcock hit in the 13th inning.
Here are five stats to know going into tonight's Sunday Night Baseball action.
1. The Braves are riding the league's best active win streak right now at nine games. Saturday night's comeback win against the Phillies was their league-leading 35th of the year. Atlanta has won 16 of the past 23 meetings with the Phillies and 10 of the past 14 at Citizens Bank Park.
The Braves enter today's action with a season-high 11.5-game lead in the NL East. It marks the first time since Sept. 21, 2003, that the Braves have had a lead of 11.5 games in their division. The 2003 Braves finished the year with a 10.0 game lead in the NL East.
2. At 10 games under .500, the Phillies are trying to avoid their first losing season since 2002. Philadelphia is averaging 3.8 runs per game this season. This season could be the first since 1991 that the Phillies fail to score at least four runs per game.
Fastest Average Fastball
NL Lefties This Season
Francisco Liriano PIT 92.8
Gio Gonzalez WSH 92.5
Clayton Kershaw LAD 92.4
Alex Wood ATL 92.3
Tony Cingrani CIN 92.1
>>Min. 3 Starts
3. Rookie lefty Alex Wood makes his fourth career start for the Braves Sunday, and for the second time in his career, it will be on regular rest. The hard-thrower has posted a well-above-average strikeout rate of 10.3 strikeouts per nine innings (avg. 7.5) and walked 3.0 batters per nine innings (avg. 3.0). Wood has allowed one home run in 33 1/3 IP, due in part to a very good groundball rate (55 percent).
Although Wood's average fastball of 92.3 MPH isn't incredible, it ranks fourth among NL lefties with at least three starts this season, behind some pretty significant names.
4. Cliff Lee returns to the mound after missing a start with neck stiffness. He'll look to shake off a tough stretch in his last four starts when he went 1-2 with a 5.47 ERA.
Lee has shown amazing command throughout his career, and this year has been no different. He leads the NL in strike rate (71 percent), percent of pitches in the zone (60 percent) and strikeouts looking this season (54 percent). Lee is 5-1 with a 1.38 ERA, 0.76 WHIP and 0.5 BB/9 in his last seven starts against the Braves.
Jason Heyward This Season
Thru June 1
Since
BA .142 .286
OBP .283 .369
Slug pct .236 .476
HR 2 8
RBI 8 22
5. Jason Heyward moved into the leadoff spot for the Braves on July 27. Prior to that, he saw 57 percent fastballs. Since then, he's seen 65 percent fastballs.
Through July 26, Atlanta's leadoff hitters had an OBP of .296 and were scoring an average of 0.6 runs per game. Since Heyward took over at the top of the order, the Braves' leadoff spot has a .425 OBP and is contributing 1.5 runs per game.
watching cliff lolee and andrelton simmons in the same game is sickening beyond belief
the sad thing is most people want them to resign utley and go for it in 2014
when it comes to sports thoughts that one makes me more mad than anything i can remember in a long time
you think even easy is on board with that line of thinking?
i dont want to speak for easy or even invoke his name...hes been catching feelings and misconstruing love for hate. i love my boy easy and thats all im gonna say.
romey rome and houston j are on board though
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
i dont want to speak for easy or even invoke his name...hes been catching feelings and misconstruing love for hate. i love my boy easy and thats all im gonna say.
lol
All those great stats Espn throws at us about how great Lee is since 2008 does nothing to help erase the frustration of the 4-0 blown lead. Oh and the remaining salary he's owed is equally as frustrating.
Those Braves stats are frightening. Young and they just continue to replenish. Take some notes Monty and Smuggy.
phillies lead the world in getting picked off of second base....its unreal....and this goes back to when they were good
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2013, 10:02:15 PM
phillies lead the world in getting picked off of second base....its unreal....and this goes back to when they were good
It's almost as if they weren't being managed properly...
city has beyond given up on this team
philly dont mess around
the odb got a 50 piece without the biscuit
Huh...the new JC Romero, I suppose.
Sergio Escalona got popped too...ex-Phils guy
imagine if homers dreams came true and they were good this year
yet another reason why rube is the worst
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
the odb got a 50 piece without the biscuit
i shouldn't have but i laughed out loud when i read this.
dick.
Figures the Phils had one of the few unnamed players. This franchise is cancerous right now.
Angels released Ryan Madson
How does Mrs. Madson feel about Southern Cal now?
hes coming home in 2014...welcome home ryan. we love you.
#nowedont
HOF in nix out
ruf moving to rf for some reason, even though hof has the better arm
can they call up cesar yet.
From this week's ESPN Power Rankings (http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings):
QuoteThe Phillies are closer to the first overall draft pick next June (13 1/2 games ahead of the Astros) than the NL East lead (16 1/2 games behind the Braves).
Ouch.
At some point Franzke and LA dropped this one.
Since the all-star break:
Hitting: .198
Pitching: 5.13
Oh, and Ruiz found his Adderall tonight.
If Papelbon was a horse, he would be shot.
Dom Brown.... :-D
This is one big mess.
This top of the ninth really sums up the demise of this team.
Hey... he caught that one! :D
Who else was REALLY rooting for Papelbon to blow it? There weren't enough booo's for me. I don't usually do this with baseball but I'm rooting for a higher draft pick.
I'm usually pretty intense when it comes to watching sports, but I couldn't stop laughing that 9th inning. Moe, Larry and Curley are playing the outfield.
Looks like they may not sign the Cuban after all
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/08/06/deal-for-cuban-might-not-happen-at-all/
no MAG?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2013, 10:01:56 PM
the silver lining and a reason to watch and root for total implosion is that they have a real chance to get a top 5 pick in next summers draft
1. marlins --
2. brewers 4
3. cubs 5.5
4. giants 6.5
5. mets, rockies, phillies 7.5
this is what i did during a client meeting today...a word cloud of this thread since august 1.
http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/6921839/Phillies_-_Aug_13
Very cool. Especially this part...
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Nice stroke by Von Brown.
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/08/07/phillies-utley-reach-contract-agreement/
GRIT!
I don't mind it, depending on the money. Galvis isn't going to be the 2nd baseman of the future here, and Utley still plays well when he's on the field. If it gets even worse next year, they can always trade him--if the money isn't absurd.
Ed is saying it's 14 million a year for 2 years with club options after that.
Incredible. $14M per for a guy with chronic degenerative knee issues who hasn't played a full season since 2009.
I give up.
They're trying to keep asses in the seats and stay somewhat competitive until they sign their TV deal, then they'll sell to the highest bidder and money won't be an issue. Of course free agency isn't the same game it was 5 years ago.
14 mil? bleh.
One website I saw said 13 mil...still bleh.
Their payroll is down to 104 118 mil next year before the arbitration guys
And having a guy playing half-seasons as a shell of what he was in his prime is the way to do that? He's played most of this season and attendance has dropped like a rock. It's time for a total rebuild. The only person seemingly who doesn't see this is Ruben and that's the real problem there, not signing a franchise hero to a legacy contract.
Teams with money don't rebuild. Not saying the Phils are the Yanks or Sox money wise but they're one of the richer teams in the league. Ripping apart the team would drastically lower attendance. Phils are 6th in the league in attendance. So what they're doing is working from a business stand point.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance
Quote from: Rome on August 07, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/08/07/phillies-utley-reach-contract-agreement/
GRIT!
Allows me to win my bet with Todd. Now we push on our two bets.
Quote from: SD on August 07, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Teams with money don't rebuild. Not saying the Phils are the Yanks or Sox money wise but they're one of the richer teams in the league. Ripping apart the team would drastically lower attendance. Phils are 6th in the league in attendance. So what they're doing is working from a business stand point.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance
I remember a time not so long ago when they might get 15,000 a night to show up in South Philly. If they were lucky. They were winning and they were fashionable with non-fans. That shtein won't last. If attendance keeps dropping they're going to be in a world of hurt down there, and let's not forget the reason they could afford 150-160 million in payroll is because they were booking 45K a night. If that drops to 30K or less, they're in big trouble, and that's what's going to happen if they keep mismanaging the team by signing aging fossils like Utley to deals like this.
Wrong
They have a great park and still have players fans can get behind (Lee, Hamels, Utley, Rollins...Dom Brown), as long as they add some pieces in the offseason they'll stay relevant enough to draw 30,000 a night. People go to games for a night out, they didn't do that when they were drawing 15,000 because the Vet was a dump. Totally different atmosphere.
Since CBP has been open (10 years) they've only not drawn 3 million fans twice (excluding this year) and those years they were only a few hundred thousand fans from hitting that mark.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHI/attend.shtml
God damn Ben Revere is annoying
2012 average attendance: 44,021
2013 average attendance: 38,481
That's a 13% drop in one year. It's going to get worse if they don't radically change their philosophy, dude. I mean, the team itself is going to get worse just because they gaping holes all over the place, but still...
CBP has been open 10 years, their average is over 3 million fans a year. Even with Jon Lieber as their ace they still almost drew 3 million. You might be a bit out of touch because you don't live in the area and see what a draw they are every summer. Half the people that go to the game do so to drink and hang out.
Quote from: SD on August 07, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
CBP has been open 10 years, their average is over 3 million fans a year. Even with Jon Lieber as their ace they still almost drew 3 million. You might be a bit out of touch because you don't live in the area and see what a draw they are every summer. Half the people that go to the game do so to drink and hang out.
This. At least 50% of the people on my facebook feed posting pictures of themselves at Phillies games aren't exactly diehard baseball fans. And it doens't seem to bother them that the Phils suck this eyar
I'll try this again... the reason they were able to have the sort of payroll they did is because they were drawing sellout crowds every night. They've lost almost 5,000 a night in one year. If that continues next year, they're down to 35,000 and so on. If they start losing 90-100 games a year, that place will look like Pittsburgh before long.
In 2004 they averaged 40,626.
The novelty wore off and then...
In 2005 they averaged 33,316.
Sound familiar? If they aren't winning, they aren't going to draw. History has proven this.
Grit being beastly! Navarro got cleaned, shoulder and knee. Ouch!
Quote from: Don Ho on August 07, 2013, 09:14:39 PM
Grit being beastly! Navarro got cleaned, shoulder and knee. Ouch!
2nd player injured this game for the Cubs - even this inning?
Utley positively smoked him there. I'm afraid Navarro's really injured.
It does not look good. Grit's lucky his knee didn't explode and shatter.
1. Utley and his reinforced wallet just killed Navarro. Dumb shtein Dioner shouldn't have gotten in the way of Cha$e.
2. Revere in the booth > Wheels
3. Utley isn't a fossil.
4. Sandberg bites nuts as a 3b coach
5. When they get their tv deal they'll be flush with moolah.
Quote from: Rome on August 07, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
I'll try this again...I live in Florida where nobody gives a shtein about baseball and there's a ton of other things to do.
fyp
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2013, 09:18:06 PM
4. Sandberg bites nuts as a 3b coach
He sure does. He's been putrid all season.
I found it amusing the John Deere meat wagon had red emergency lights on it.
Don't necessarily blame Sandberg for Utley being out. Took a hell of a throw and catch to get him.
I do have to agree, though, that Sandberg hasn't been good coaching third.
All ya can do is laugh.
Wow what a collection is shteinbags.
De farg'us strikes again!
Losers
the utley deal is....i mean really whats the point anymore
IF he plays hes one of the 5 best 2B in baseball. but he cannot play 162. he cannot play 150 or even 140. hes has to be somewhere between 100-120, best case scenario.
on top of that they are going nowhere fast, with or without utley. this is just at least a year and a half more of not being able to see cesar hernadez at his natural position. and utley doesnt sell one farging ticket. winning sells tickets. especially in philly, where they would cheer for a team full of kkk members as long as they won
any word if amaro sealed the deal with a no trade clause ?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2013, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 07, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/08/07/phillies-utley-reach-contract-agreement/
GRIT!
Allows me to win my bet with Todd. Now we push on our two bets.
speaking of....if you want you can send an extra $25 with the waters contest and nfl pick em pool money
Young was scheduled to lead off today but he was just scratched from the lineup after clearing waivers. Charlie says it's because of a tight hamstring, not a trade
Chooch is batting 2nd and Martinez is starting at short, so it's another "farg this" day from Charlie
attn j: mike mike is a BAWLER
haha...the key to a winning team? motherfargin Mike Mike
wasnt he on the roster for 2010? like the entire season.
did pretty well there didnt they. haterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Feel like I'm watching the LLWS regionals with all these kids in the lineup.
i think you mean scrubs not kids
they actually only have one guy playing today who is younger than 24
and five guys in their 30's
tommy joseph out for the rest of the year and might never catch again
so to recap: jarred cosart and jon singleton for 2 half seasons of hunter pence and a 22 year old catcher with scrambled eggs for a brain
And an enormous super athletic 20 year old OF who will go 20-15 in AA this year
and after 6 it's
phil's scrubs 10
the other scrubs 1
i have no problem with the initial pence trade....it was exactly the kind of move a world series favorite makes...they should have won it in 2011 and then it would have been who cares who they gave up
btw singleton stinks
the worst part of the pence trade was to the giants and how they didnt tender sureholtz last winter and instead went with into this year with laynce nix and delolmon young as outfielders
put the star of david on the baseball and delmon young would kill the ball
Young and Rollins clear waivers. (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/rollins-reportedly-clears-waivers-trade-unlikely)
Don't see Rollins waiving the no-trade clause, but I still think Young gets traded before Aug. 31.
putting god jimmy thru waivers while resigning GRIT is sickening.....i farging hate this franchise
Delmon Young DFA'd for Casper Wells who has been with just about every team this year and is hitting about a buck forty.
:-D
outside of lil danni is there a bigger dick in sports than smug?
Viva el Smug!
QuoteDominican third baseman Luis Encarnacion became eligible to sign when he turned 16 at midnight. The Phillies struck quickly, signing Encarnacion for $1 million.
Enarnacion, the No. 4 international prospect for July 2, is one of the top hitters in Latin America. At 6-foot-2, 195 pounds, Enarnacion has a track record of hitting in games with plus raw power from the right side. His value is entirely in his offense, as he projects to move to left field or first base. Encarnacion trains with Juan Herrera, who is known as "Mon," and plays in the International Prospect League.
smug with the quote of the decade
"maybe im delusional."
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2013, 06:59:51 AM
putting god jimmy thru waivers while resigning GRIT is sickening.....i farging hate this franchise
They gave him a 10% pay cut. That's fair, right?
patriots 7
nationals 3
what is the point of jon lannan
Zero point. He should be cut tomorrow. He's garbage.
hes eating starts until they bring back the bone or doc for his little "i got something left" tryout
Let someone else eat starts. Call someone up.
Quote@ChrisBranchTNJ: Charlie on Lannan: "He's inconsistent. Kind of like a lot of our guys."
Cholly knows the jig is up and doesn't care anymore. He maybe the most entertaining thing about the rest of the season.
Did anyone watch this game tonight?
I thought not.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 09, 2013, 10:06:24 PM
Cholly knows the jig is up and doesn't care anymore. He maybe the most entertaining thing about the rest of the season.
lol exactly
he has no leg to stand on but at least hes goin down with some comedy chops
Quote from: Don Ho on August 09, 2013, 10:44:22 PM
Did anyone watch this game tonight?
I thought not.
Had it on the computer with the Eagles on the TV. I did turn it off when it got to 6-1, though.
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That is one punchable face.
11 games under .500 isn't perfect? I disagree. It's perfect for me since I got a sammich riding on them winning 78 or less. Keep it up, RAJ. I'm gonna get fat off this team in October
Haha that pic and quote are awesome.
What a train wreck.
And good ol jolly Monty is oblivious
Quote from: Rome on August 10, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
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As soon as the Phils went up 4-0 I knew they were in trouble.
somehow the werth contract will end up being better than the GRIT and choke deals combined
I hope smug is in the stadium tonight cause its as disgraceful as it gets right now
Well, at least Dom didn't come back from the DL and start sucking
this seemed like a run of the mill loss for a bad team
average starter wears down...zesty bullpen implodes...the end
why are you dorks losing it?
Utley's deal is fine. He's still one of the 5 best 2nd basemen in baseball when he's healthy. Since he's never healthy all the vesting options relate to him staying on the field.
The problem isn't the deal in a vacuum - I think that aspect is fine - it's what it represents and the fact that they probably could've gotten a decent amount for him instead of re-signing him and hoping for .500.
Utley's deal is farging retarding. Stop it.
2/26 for Utley is absolutely not overpaying. I still feel like they should've burned the house down but his deal by itself can't be compared to Werth or Howard.
Not to get all sabermetricy but this was a pretty good breakdown of it & why Amaro's terrible moves have put them in a no-win situation with Utley and the team.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/in-support-of-a-ruben-amaro-transaction/
2/26 is far from retarded.
Yeah I ahve no problem with the Utley deal itself, I have a problem with it not meaning much because they're probably going to suck next year.
They do have a ton of money to spend if they want to prove they are like Boston or NY.....we'll see if that happens.
the GRIT deal is good in that it will keep teenage girls from blackwood coming to the games but otherwise its completely worthless
i went to the game last night and literally don't remember one second of it.
you are lucky....im still fuming about it....and for no good reason....the lil guy is right....but i hate werth sooooo much and last night did something to me that isnt going to leave me for a while
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
the GRIT deal is good in that it will keep teenage girls from blackwood AND EASY AND J coming to the games but otherwise its completely worthless
mike mike in the house
jimmy the god says farg that stupid goatee
jason werth owns the phillies
and does any pitcher in the majors have less "stuff" than kyle kendrick
Everyone in the bullpen.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 11, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
2/26 is far from retarded.
Is there any move the Phillies make that you don't support? Seriously, I'm asking.
kendrick went from being a horrible 6th starter (in the minds of south jersey fans) to being a surprisingly capable starter to needing an extension to being trade bait to pitching for his spot for next year in the span of one calendar year
pretty impressive
hes been terrible from day one....yeah he had some good starts but he never once in his life passed the eye test
is he the 5th starter next year?
hamels-lee-doc-bone-?
im assuming since rube loves keeping his boys in line he will throw some moronic incentive laden deal at doc regardless of how he does in his 5-6 start tryout.
in reality the year or two he was the 6th starter....making spot starts...long relief...etc...he was really good. logically couldnt find a better talent for that role.
i dont even wanna think about next year
do you realize that our rooting interest for three of the four city teams is hoping they get the number one overall draft pick
and its even worse for you because you don't care abut the flyers
the phils are about firing roob...high draft picks will be a given until he is gone
eagles/sixers YES absolutely
and now you can see why im into us soccer. its terrible but at least its something i can root for where the team isnt an atrocity
Quote from: Rome on August 11, 2013, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 11, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
2/26 is far from retarded.
Is there any move the Phillies make that you don't support? Seriously, I'm asking.
Have you been asleep since Ruben Amaro took over? I hate him and I hate how's he's ruined the team.
cant believe im flying to chicago in three weeks to see this team
Quote from: MDS on August 11, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
the phils are about firing roob...high draft picks will be a given until he is gone
eagles/sixers YES absolutely
and now you can see why im into us soccer. its terrible but at least its something i can root for where the team isnt an atrocity
College football is right around the corner.
lil guy has soccer waaaaaaaaay ahead of cfb
lolollbwahahahaheeeeehheeeeeelol
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on August 11, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 11, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
the phils are about firing roob...high draft picks will be a given until he is gone
eagles/sixers YES absolutely
and now you can see why im into us soccer. its terrible but at least its something i can root for where the team isnt an atrocity
College football is right around the corner.
i really dont root for anyone in cfb. i just like watching it. temple is a minor league team...nothing to really root for.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
lil guy has soccer waaaaaaaaay ahead of cfb
i might have an us world cup qualifying or actual game ahead of cfb. but under no other circumstances would i watch soccer over football. but im well aware facts are never getting in the way of your weirdo anti-american narratives
j werth OWNS this franchise
and lol @ liking america
what a feeble pathetic effort
the house needs to be burned to the ground. get rid of everyone and start over.
IN
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2013, 06:08:25 PM
i dont even wanna think about next year
do you realize that our rooting interest for three of the four city teams is hoping they get the number one overall draft pick
:yay Ridding us of that incredibly horrible Russian goaltender already made my Flyers season.
Ha - Hamels with a triple. Thanks to BJ Upton.
I'm actually watching this. Good Lord help me.
I can't remember the last game I watched.
now that chuck has #1,000 can they finally push him out
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4. milwaukee --
5. chicago NL - 1
6. san fran - 1.5
7. san diego - 2
8. philadelphia - 2
At least Dom continues to be somewhat productive and seemingly the real deal and not just a player that went through a 3 week hot streak
lannan is hurt or something. who cares.
highlight of the year
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:-D
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2:30pm press conference called for today...has to be charlie going
If it's a straight firing instead of a "retirement" than this 2nd rate organization needs to be roasted
it is
pour one out for the man. then save the rest for someone who wasnt a farging idiot
well when your teeth drop out on t.v. it's only a matter of time.
It's about time...raj should be next
what's the point of doing it now other than to embarrass him? he's the winningest manager in franchise history and won the city a WS. to fire him now is complete bullshtein.
they might spin it as charlie stepping down...but this has been in the works for a few years
once the season went off the rails they were just waiting until he hit 1000
ruben crying ?? offered to keep cholly in the organization.
lol ruben's crying
fake tears from rube...hes been cooking this up for like 2-3 years now
get a grip you smug farg
getting sandberg off 3rd instantly makes the team better.
thats absolutely unbelievable that they would fire the winningest manager in the history of an organization that is 130 years old 45 days before his contract is up
charlie is taking it amazingly well but this stinks to high heaven
should they have kept him as a lame duck?
you knew BEFORE the year that sanberg was gonna be the guy. get on with it, mutherfarga
so he can be lame duck for five months but not another 45 days??....dont tell me roob decided a couple weeks ago to not bring him back next year....if you are so worried about the lame duck status of a manager then he shouldnt have started the season
what they should have done today is to announce he wasnt coming back next year which would have given him a month and a half long victory lap.....theres no way he shouldnt be managing the last game this season at the bank
charlie was the one who said farg you after he was told it was over. he didnt want the victory lap.
you can argue that smug should have just shut his mouth and waited until after the season, you might be right.
negative....he was just asked at the presser is he resigned or stepped down when roob told him he woudnt be renewed and he said unequivocally NO
again both of them knew long ago that this was his last year
what else is farged up is that he knew during the last game of the braves series...so he knowingly managed his last game on the road instead of home
smugs performance at the end of the presser was something to behold
this is worse than banner, howie and ed wade combined
Quote from: SunMo on August 16, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
what else is farged up is that he knew during the last game of the braves series...so he knowingly managed his last game on the road instead of home
I dont have a problem with that because no one would have known it was his last game...which kind of goes to my point of announcing today that this will be his last
season....imagine the last home game this year where everyone knows this is it....that would have been incredible....
on top of that finale youd also have a great scene everytime he came out of the dugout for the rest of the season....every mound visit every argued call would be a celebration of sorts
i truely can not stand amaro. farging dbag.
what might be most disconcerting about all this is how incredibly tone deaf roob is...he probably thinks this move will put some of the blame on charlie and less heat on him when in reality people are going to hate him in two ways now...one as a terrible gm and one as a terrible person....the guy is just completely clueless and a fleshpop on top of that.....its very reminiscent of rich kotite
hes also completely clueless as to how bad this team is....i had to lol when he said he still believes this team has the talent to win it all
Ryne's press conference was pretty much Bowa 2.0. Said the players are being paid too much to be goofing off like this, the vets need to take the younger guys under their wings and teach them the right ways to do things, said he likes chatter on the field but also wants these guys putting in enough pregame work, says lackadaisical effort will be addressed
jroll will be demanding a trade tomorrow.
Quote from: SunMo on August 16, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
what else is farged up is that he knew during the last game of the braves series...so he knowingly managed his last game on the road instead of home
infuriating. this bullshtein has rube's stink all over it. i hate that smug motherfarger more than i hated wade and that's saying something.
murderdeathkill this whole farging franchise.
Quote from: smeags on August 16, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
jroll will be demanding a trade tomorrow.
or he'll dog it down the line a bit and wait til sunday.
Holy
farging
shtein
What a disgusting move by that corksucking loser Amaro. He is the worst motherfarger to ever work for one of our franchises and that's saying something. What a gutless and cowardly move by a little icehole.
I've always liked Charlie and to do him like this is a joke and reeks of unprofessional behavior by an icehole GM and President (farg you too Monty)
This is as angry as I've ever been with this piece of shtein franchise.
The only think that would even begin to make sense would be that they're not sold on Sandberg and want to give this as a "tryout" period before making him permanent manager.
That said... Cholly needed to be given the season. Let him retire with dignity.
And fire Amaro... right out of a cannon.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
The only think that would even begin to make sense would be that they're not sold on Sandberg and want to give this as a "tryout" period before making him permanent manager.
he managed six years in the minor leagues....the Phillies are a glorified AAA team right now....him coaching this roster for 1 month tells them absolutey NOTHING about sandberg
It tells them they weren't re-signing Cholly, so let's cut bait and see if Sandberg can fill out a lineup card full of underachieving veterans and clueless kids while not projectile vomiting.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2013, 06:42:51 PM
What a disgusting move by that corksucking loser Amaro. He is the worst motherfarger to ever work for one of our franchises and that's saying something. What a gutless and cowardly move by a little icehole.
yeah but....
crying (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_id3YKr3phk)
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2013, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
The only think that would even begin to make sense would be that they're not sold on Sandberg and want to give this as a "tryout" period before making him permanent manager.
he managed six years in the minor leagues....the Phillies are a glorified AAA team right now....him coaching this roster for 1 month tells them absolutey NOTHING about sandberg
Hence the next part of my original post. Cholly needed to be given the season. And a cannon may be too good an exit for Amaro.
I don't know if I can watch that video. Is that him crying?
He had the farging balls to off Chuck like he did and then farging cry about it?!
Oh that's a farging gem. Be proud, David Montgomery.
http://www.youtube.com/v/TRB4KJoXbuw?hl=en_US&version=3
Shut out in Ryno's first game in the big chair. Way to turn it on, Fellas.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 16, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
The only think that would even begin to make sense would be that they're not sold on Sandberg and want to give this as a "tryout" period before making him permanent manager.
That said... Cholly needed to be given the season. Let him retire with dignity.
And fire Amaro... right out of a cannon.
Charlie has no intentions of retiring, but that's besides the point. You don't shteincan the winningest manager in the history of the losingest franchise in sports history in the middle of August, 45 days before his contact is up. It's a minor league move by a minor league franchise. What's Ryne going to prove over the next 6 weeks? That he can make a bunch of losers less losery?
If he's the manager in waiting, then let him wait a few more weeks.
Maybe the thinking was he would be inundated with offers and best give him the spot now?
I'm not saying that's actually true just what Doobin was thinking. Kinda like Chase was going to receive blockbuster offers from every team in the league (and maybe JAPAN!) so go ahead and lock him up early.
It's just part and parcel of Amaro's GM "style." When given two options, do the one that:
1. Is the wrong thing to do.
2. Makes him look worse.
RAJ is all about saving his own ass. Once they start losing money and the reality of the awful contracts he's given out sink in he knows his ass is getting fired. Firing Charlie now lets him use him as a scapegoat. The right thing to do was to let him finish out the season...even if they lose maybe they get a high draft pick.
Next years plan: add some pieces to the bp...sign some fringe offensive players...tell everyone Utley/Howard/Rollins/Hamels look great again...play and there's a nes manager...play 500 ball until they have a meltdown. Rinse repeat. They don't have the capital to spend their way out of this mess until their tv deal goes through.
i know everyone wants to pile on rube, myself included, but the team quit on charlie and he cant manage anything other than a 3-run homer hitting team
the last 2-3 years the phils havent been that, and the results are what you see
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
i know everyone wants to pile on rube, myself included, but the team quit on charlie and he cant manage anything other than a 3-run homer hitting team
the last 2-3 years the phils havent been that, and the results are what you see
Sounds exactly like another Philadelphia team called the Eagles. If memory serves me right Reid was given the opportunity to finish out the season. The Eagles were about as bad as the Phillies are now...maybe worse.
Quote from: SD on August 17, 2013, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
i know everyone wants to pile on rube, myself included, but the team quit on charlie and he cant manage anything other than a 3-run homer hitting team
the last 2-3 years the phils havent been that, and the results are what you see
Sounds exactly like another Philadelphia team called the Eagles. If memory serves me right Reid was given the opportunity to finish out the season. The Eagles were about as bad as the Phillies are now...maybe worse.
And Reid didn't even win a championship. Hell, he only made it to 1 in 14 yrs. Cholly took the team to 2 straight and won 1 and also set the franchise mark for reg season wins. He also coached a ROY (Choke), back to back MVP (Choke, Jimmy), and a Cy Young Winner (Doc). And he did it in half of the time Reid had with the Eagles. For all his faults as a manager, he still did pretty ok.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20130818_Organization__not_Manuel__is_the_reason_the_Phillies_were_a_bad_team.html?nlid=6179591&219961591=Y&mr=1&submit=Vote&oid=2&pid=219961591&cid=8500281 (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20130818_Organization__not_Manuel__is_the_reason_the_Phillies_were_a_bad_team.html?nlid=6179591&219961591=Y&mr=1&submit=Vote&oid=2&pid=219961591&cid=8500281)
Basically what has been observed around here the past few years but some great observations in this article. This one being my favorite:
QuoteThe Phillies are a fossilized dinosaur inside a glacier, content to watch the rest of civilization drift away, convinced that the space between is growing at a manageable pace.
casper wells is hitting 6th
These clowns are going to get blanked again. Incredible.
I hope they don't win another game the rest of the year.
i watched for 2 minutes...darren rough struck out on a disgusting curve and then hof brown got picked off
anyway when does training camp start
As many hits as errors tonight.
I should have my head examined for watching that shtein last night. I was struck by the number of people who showed up at The Bank last night. Fellow masochists I guess.
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
i know everyone wants to pile on rube, myself included, but the team quit on charlie and he cant manage anything other than a 3-run homer hitting team
the last 2-3 years the phils havent been that, and the results are what you see
chuckles is a terrible game day manager....always has been....but that doesnt change the fact that he deserved way better than he got
Well, it's 1-0 Dodgers in the second inning.
... now since this game's over, what are you all going to do with your afternoon?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
i know everyone wants to pile on rube, myself included, but the team quit on charlie and he cant manage anything other than a 3-run homer hitting team
the last 2-3 years the phils havent been that, and the results are what you see
chuckles is a terrible game day manager....always has been....but that doesnt change the fact that he deserved way better than he got
no doubt. charlie should have been able to pick his exit this year and since hes stubborn as stubborn can be that would have been to manage out the year.
meanwhile michael martinez is batting leadoff, so theres that
this is just disgusting...
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League pitching= guaranteed opponent's win.
That drizzling snatch Hanley...lol, thanks buddy.
Quote from: hbionic on August 18, 2013, 04:36:54 PM
League pitching= guaranteed opponent's win.
No doubt about it.
What a lame ass win and how embarrassing to swarm Young at first on a cheap gift from Hanley.
League is a Hawaii boy but he just looks like a punk you want to slap.
Quote from: hbionic on August 18, 2013, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: hbionic on August 18, 2013, 04:36:54 PM
League pitching= guaranteed opponent's win.
No doubt about it.
Don't you have some playoff tickets to go buy?
"Yeah I'd like playoff tickets please. Do you have the discounted ones for arriving after the 3rd and leaving in the 7th?"
sandberg put michael martinez leadoff, then let cole hamels hit for himself and had bj rosenberg start the following inning
this isnt going to go well
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 18, 2013, 04:47:31 PM
"Yeah I'd like playoff tickets please. Do you have the discounted ones for arriving after the 3rd and leaving in the 7th?"
"id like the best available in the crip section please"
Quote from: MDS on August 18, 2013, 04:49:02 PMlet cole hamels hit for himself and had bj rosenberg start the following inning
They were trying to sacrifice Chooch to 2nd. No need to waste a PH for that
bunting is dumb
bunting a slow runner to 2nd is even dumber
bunting a slow runner to 2nd for michael martinez and kevin frandsen is well past the point of moronic
yeah theres no argument whatsoever to not have pinch hit there
Quote from: MDS on August 18, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
sandberg put michael martinez leadoff, then let cole hamels hit for himself and had bj rosenberg start the following inning
this isnt going to go well
Doyers announcers were all over Sandberg for that move.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2013, 07:04:35 PM
yeah theres no argument whatsoever to not have pinch hit there
even if you want to be stupid and bunt...its the 7th inning and you have a zesty team. i mean really what is the point and how could he even think to do it.
but of course easy would rush to sanbergs defense/feel the need to explain it. but i still love that kid DONT GET ME WRONG
Ryno says he wants Jimmy to improve his OBP and stop pulling the ball. Oh yeah, this is gonna go great
Triple A with a 3 run bomb. Care factor hovering at about 2 maybe 3 on scale of 100.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 19, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
Triple A with a 3 run bomb. Care factor hovering at about 2 maybe 3 on scale of 100.
It's still that high?
I think it's time for some help. The fact I even turned this thing on has me very concerned.
I was watching Special Victims Unit because it was early episode in the series and goddamn it Olivia was hot back then.
Go Phils.
Sponge Bob and the Sailor Mouth episode! All time.
Go Casper Wells
Diekman just struck out a batter hitting 99 on the gun.
Time for Cardiac Arrest with Jonathan Papelbon.
back-to-back wins for the first time in over a month, and jackass' first save since 7-11
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 19, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
Time for Cardiac Arrest with Jonathan Papelbon.
He looked more relieved than excited. He didn't celebrate with the usual clenched fist and the loud yell.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 19, 2013, 05:17:55 PM
Ryno says he wants Jimmy to improve his OBP and stop pulling the ball. Oh yeah, this is gonna go great
why would he when hes worshiped like a god for being good 5 years ago?
Insult the Gawd?
Paging Havas...
while its not suprising its absolutely repulsive how this fanbase treats jimmy who is a top 5 all time player in franchise history
gawd's batting .246
No one claimed this was a historically good franchise.
I love Jimmy for 2008. That's it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 20, 2013, 11:02:48 AM
No one claimed this was a historically good franchise.
GRIT hit .259 two years ago but oh no he has GRIT and he said the F word on tv one time heeeeheee so we all love him unconditionally!!
this fanbase makes me ill
Can you imagine how little anyone cares about your disdain?
Grit also had built in injury excuses the last couple years. He's been pretty decent this year now that his knees are apparently 'healthy'.
how dare this fanbase appreciate hustle
^ Racist ^
chase is such a hustle team first guy!
*except the two seasons he showed up not medically able to participate of course.
Quote from: SunMo on August 20, 2013, 01:29:20 PM
chase is such a hustle team first guy!
*except the two seasons he showed up not medically able to participate of course.
those dont count cause hes dreamy and GRITty and white and quiet
:-D
of course race is the issue.
The fan base gives all the white players a pass...it's the same reason why Doc and Hamels have skated by in their shtein years.*
*sarcasm
card carrying kkk fargtard fanbase ... the whole lot of ya !
im a 10000% what have you done for me lately fan
jimmy in my mind gets a statue and his number retired but i really dont need to see him play anymore. hes lost a step, is disinterested and id rather see if galvis can be a major league player. sorry of thats cold, call me marlo if you like. we aint back in the day no more.
hes done way more than this but even if he did nothing else jimmy gets a forever hall pass for calling out the mets and verbally shteinting down their throats while the rest of the team was cowering like little bitches and looked like they might never win a division much less a pennant or ws....
then not only does he call them out and state WE are the team to beat but then he goes out and wins an mvp....i mean who does that?....i know who....a farging LEGEND
he changed EVERYTHING that year and 2008 doesnt happen without it....beleeeeeeeeeee DAT!!!
theres certain players who you never step too....and jimmy is one of them....i understand the elders hating his guts but frankly you should be ashamed of yourself
but he didn't run out a popup in july
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2013, 02:50:14 PM
hes done way more than this but even if he did nothing else jimmy gets a forever hall pass for calling out the mets and verbally shteinting down their throats while the rest of the team was cowering like little bitches and looked like they might never win a division much less a pennant or ws....
then not only does he call them out and state WE are the team to beat but then he goes out and wins an mvp....i mean who does that?....i know who....a farging LEGEND
he changed EVERYTHING that year and 2008 doesnt happen without it....beleeeeeeeeeee DAT!
theres certain players who you never step too....and jimmy is one of them....i understand the elders hating his guts but frankly you should be ashamed of yourself
Is it just me or does 95% of the fanbase forget that this is exactly how it went down? Seems like the majority forget Choke's "just get me to the plate" moment, too. Neither should get a "free pass" for it, but mofos act like neither of these guys were around from 07-11.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 20, 2013, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2013, 02:50:14 PM
hes done way more than this but even if he did nothing else jimmy gets a forever hall pass for calling out the mets and verbally shteinting down their throats while the rest of the team was cowering like little bitches and looked like they might never win a division much less a pennant or ws....
then not only does he call them out and state WE are the team to beat but then he goes out and wins an mvp....i mean who does that?....i know who....a farging LEGEND
he changed EVERYTHING that year and 2008 doesnt happen without it....beleeeeeeeeeee DAT!
theres certain players who you never step too....and jimmy is one of them....i understand the elders hating his guts but frankly you should be ashamed of yourself
Is it just me or does 95% of the fanbase forget that this is exactly how it went down? Seems like the majority forget Choke's "just get me to the plate" moment, too. Neither should get a "free pass" for it, but mofos act like neither of these guys were around from 07-11.
its not you....and worse than forgetting any one moment with choke is seemingly forgetting the astounding numbers he put up during that time....like most of the fanbase thinks GRIT was a better offensive player than him from 2005-2011 when it wasnt even close....but GRIT must have been better cause he would stick his elbow out and get HBP 30 times a year.....GRIT!....or that choke had like two or three really good years....he was anywhere from awesome to retardedly good for more or less seven years
all this being said about both of them isnt to rip GRIT or say that he should be ripped.....he is on the same level as they are give or take.....but if you didnt know better youd think GRIT was the greatest phillie of all time and these other guys were two bit slobs....i just dont understand the love for one of them but not all three.....they all came up thru the phillie system were in their primes at the same time and won a world series together....they are basically inseperable as phillies....yet somehow GRIT is on a pedestal the other two could only dream of sharing
so in some minds you either treat jroll like a demi-god or you're racist elder ? is that how it goes ?
there's no way to just recognize & celebrate what he was to this team and acknowledge his few warts ? that can't happen around here ?
well when you start recognizing and celebrating what he was instead of talking about hustle all the time let me know
People see two things....how much $$$ a guys being paid and how he's producing this year.
The same fanbase that you tards are saying hate Choke for no reason because they're uninformed racists, are teh same fans that were extremely happy he was extended when it happened because they loved the guy and thought foolishly that he'd keep producing like that well into his 30's. Whatevs, I think the hate on Choke has gone wayyyyyyy too far. Dude can't help it that Amaro overpaid him, and then he got injured. If he doesn't blow out his achillies, I'd be willing to bet he'd at elast still be a 30/100 guy. While that's not worth 25 mil per year, it's still pretty damn good.
Jimmy is getting paid too much to bat under .250 with minimal power. Say what you want about Utley being damaged goods the last two years, this year he's batting .280 and is probably going to finish with 18-20 home runs.
Quote from: SunMo on August 20, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
well when you start recognizing and celebrating what he was instead of talking about hustle all the time let me know
i mentioned it once but ok.
Quote from: smeags on August 20, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
so in some minds you either treat jroll like a demi-god or you're racist elder ? is that how it goes ?
there's no way to just recognize & celebrate what he was to this team and acknowledge his few warts ? that can't happen around here ?
in the big picture you should treat jimmy the gawd essentially the same way you treat GRIT....but its not even close...its one thing to have a favorite...jimmy is mine.... but you would never hear me kill GRIT the same way people destroy jimmy and choke...in fact i like GRIT better than choke
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: smeags on August 20, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
so in some minds you either treat jroll like a demi-god or you're racist elder ? is that how it goes ?
there's no way to just recognize & celebrate what he was to this team and acknowledge his few warts ? that can't happen around here ?
in the big picture you should treat jimmy the gawd essentially the same way you treat GRIT....but its not even close...its one thing to have a favorite...jimmy is mine.... but you would never hear me kill GRIT the same way people destroy jimmy and choke...in fact i like GRIT better than choke
dont think i have ever really killed jimmy or choke but i hear what you're saying. i admit utley is my favorite but i played 2b most of my baseball playing days so i have always leaned towards the guy playing there whether it be grit or all the way back to dave cash.
The fact that you know who Dave Cash was isn't helping your case.
Rollins was an all time Phillie great. He's not anymore. He's barely adequate at this point. But let's ignore that and turn the discussion toward the other past his prime ex-all star because racist kenzo douchebags worship him.
elders rule
You're an elder, Forrest.
Jimmy is an all timer and deserves the respect. The whining by the WIP crowd of how he loafs down the line is a joke. When I'd hear those people the first thing they'd say after how jimmy loafs was "look at Utley...he busts it all the time".
If jimmy ever wears another uniform it will be a goddamn crying shame.
"We're the team to beat"
His MVP year and 2008
Great defense for over a decade
Bow down.
Todd hacked Jay's account again.
Nah Todd hates Jimmy.
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/manuel-knew-post-2011-phils-lacked-pieces
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
Jimmy is an all timer and deserves the respect. The whining by the WIP crowd of how he loafs down the line is a joke. When I'd hear those people the first thing they'd say after how jimmy loafs was "look at Utley...he busts it all the time".
If jimmy ever wears another uniform it will be a goddamn crying shame.
"We're the team to beat"
His MVP year and 2008
Great defense for over a decade
Bow down.
Game 4 at CBP, bottom nine, Broxton. I can watch that over and over and over. Third loudest philly sporting cheer I ever let out.
1. WS game 5 part 2 (years of pent up frustration finally released)
2. 3 way tie -Sixers game 7 against Toronto in 2001 Eastern Semi Finals/Pimp's punt return/BMitch opening kickoff return agaisnt Bucs in NFCCG
3A. JRoll's hit against Broxton
3B. Bums beat Astros in 1980 NLCS
Just turned this shtein show on. 3 farging hits? HA!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2013, 09:18:28 PM
Nah Todd hates Jimmy.
i love jimmy, i just dont need to see him play now. or choke. or GRIT. im over them.
i dont worship pro athletes and dont care if they play for another team. i want to win every year and dont give a rats funhole how it gets done or who is a part of it.
except mcnabb. farg that Hoyda.
So according to doc the country club atmosphere cholly allowed needed to change.
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2013/08/roy_halladay_supports_charlie_manuel_firing_says_things_needed_to_change.html (http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2013/08/roy_halladay_supports_charlie_manuel_firing_says_things_needed_to_change.html)
Stay tuned ...
its not really anything big....he was there for 9 years, largely managing the same players
after a while, complacency is inevitable. he stopped giving as much of a shtein and so did the players. combine that with a disgusting lack of talent and you get a true blow up this year
yep pretty much. just points out how some players who will state they loved cholly actually helped to get him fired.
oh well ... it's the interim ryno era now.
Phils signed free agent OF Roger Bernadina, sent Mike Mike back to Lehigh. Nothing like scraping the bottom of the free agent barrel near the end of August.
Your feeble ass would be a better choice than Mike Mart.
this just in............De Fratus sucks.
Diekman might one day amount to something.
3 hits in last 44 at bats with runners in scoring position. Says it all.
Well farg us all, 4 for 45!
Double farg me! 5 for 46. WE WIN!!
Nothing like a walk off win when you're 20 games out in late August.
Shaving creme pie during live interview, please ban immediately.
how has michael young not been traded yet
i was at the game last night, 3 rows up from the rockies dugout. i had an enjoyable time
no chance you stayed to the end right?
saw every pitch. i've never been that close to the field and it was a nice night so we stayed
Diamond Club seats are fantastic in that place. Money makes shtein so much better.
Other than the DC seats my favorites were the first row in right field. Sat there the year after they opened and watched batting practice.
The Phils might be farged up as an organization but damn if they didn't get the stadium just about perfect. Too bad the location isn't in Chinatown. Other than that just perfect.
i have a guy in work who is the ultimate homer - he put out an email today telling us negadelphians that the team's elimination number for the division is 16 and 22 for the WC spot with 47 games to play so they still have a chance.
:boom
Wow...that's some heavy homer shtein there. Impressive!
so you and sean work together?
;)
Haha...yeah of course
Another 9th inning implosion by the Rockies / Comeback by the Phils.
And LOL at Lee falling during the celebration.
lookin like the moderately give a shtein now that uncle chuck is toast
Memo to TMac:
It's August 22. Phillies are 20.5 games out of first and 15.5 out of the WC. Take a Vallium and just calm down.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 22, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Memo to TMac:
It's August 22. Phillies are 20.5 games out of first and 15.5 out of the WC. Take a Vallium and just calm down.
First thing I thought when I heard it. farging ridiculous. Shut the hell up you squealing bitch.
tonight you had the perfect example of why philly fans are the greatest in the world....meaningless dog days late august baseball game....HOF make an atrocious play in the outfield...then later in the game he makes a routine catch and the fans jump all in his shtein and give him a huge bronx cheer
nowhere else would this ever happen
jesus heath bell is a pig
button your jersey up and take off the surfer necklaces douche
three hits no runs bottom 8
top 9.....paps!
3 straight johnsons
lol that pitch was so brutal and franzden swung at it like he was in a bugs bunny episode
holy shtein that was a strike
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2013, 09:59:49 PM
holy shtein that was a strike
I'd like to see the over the top of the plate angle to see if it catches the plate. Hard to tell if it crosses the plate or if it heads inside late. My initial reaction was strike 3.
my feeling is 3-2 bases loaded to win the game you should have to swing...so if its close i give the advantage to the pitcher....and that was more than close
i feel the same way in most sports....
its why i liked the no call against jimmy smith...make a play
its why i dont want a foul deciding the end of a basketball game...make a shot
i want someone to win it
the phillies WON it
go team!
We're supposed to be pissed that they fell out of the top 10 of the draft, right guys?
baseball draft doesnt carry near the weight of others....but we all still should be rooting for the highest pick possible
there is a certain point where their pick is not eligible to be given up in a FA signing, so you at least want to stay in that threshold
Damn, just when I thought this team was turning it around. Back to the bums we know and love tonight.
Quote from: Don Ho on August 24, 2013, 08:38:44 PM
Damn, just when I thought this team was turning it around.
you thought this when?
Yeah bitch!!
They're fun to watch right now
you should have a blast next year then when they bring the same exact team back for another run
thats a sneaky good play by ashy
made it look easier than it was
lol at carts goin to commercial saying so who will be the hero tonight.....sickening
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2013, 10:25:34 PM
you should have a blast next year then when they bring the same exact team back for another run
Live in the moment and don't force me to think about Smug and his zesty offseasons ok?
this is crazy....bases loaded again
no need for a questionable ball/strike call there
AAA
odds of a deiKman here?
wow
phillies FEVER?
Indeed. shtein's burning up the Delaware Valley
this game is not far away from weird shtein happening
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
this game is not far away from weird shtein happening
Pump your brakes - that's too close to the Wheelsism where he starts saying how goofy extras are.
BTW - Casper Wells is hitting less than .050...solid player, that guy
yeah wheels god forbid the phillies are shorthanded tomorrow because the game means soooooooooo much
Just wait and see how fired up TMac gets if they walk this off...he'll be hollering like its the clincher of the WS
jimmy the pimp/gawd FTW
Grit FTW?
Tyler Cloyd onto pitch...tomorrow's starter.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2013, 11:40:11 PM
Tyler Cloyd onto pitch...tomorrow's starter.
what are they ever gonna do
ball game
Saw speculation they'd call Halladay up.
That would be interesting. Bet The Dbacks RL and over the team total.
wow holy shtein
shtein is crazy
tyler HOFloyd
wow carts is out of control with that cloyd hit
Casper Wells should start putting in job applications soon. Like tomorrow.
so the pitcher leads off with a double in the bot 16 and they dont score
here comes the crazy part
whats up bitches what i miss
Wheels does his thing where he tries to interpret what people are thinking...drives me nuts
"look at the phillies bench and they're all saying what happened"
as the camera shows a bunch of indifferent faces and no comments
Chris Wheeler, ladies and gents.
BTW - longest Phillies game ever timewise
was there a specific reason cloyd hit for himself like 3 innings ago or whatever
p.s. if dumbass gibson brings in corbin im gonna kill him
ethan martin went .2
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 01:24:56 AM
was there a specific reason cloyd hit for himself like 3 innings ago or whatever
p.s. if dumbass gibson brings in corbin im gonna kill him
Yeah they were pretty much out of players.
McDonald is the only guy left now.
Cliff Lee headed down to the pen now
Matt Gelb wrong...its not Lee...its Casper farging Wells loosening up
wilson valdez somewhere in a 3rd world latin american shteinhole is jealous
here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 01:29:53 AM
wilson valdez somewhere in a 3rd world latin american shteinhole is jealous
aka Camden
http://www.riversharks.com/team/
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2013, 01:36:15 AM
here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
he shoulda struck him out!
Die TMac..that goddamn fake creepy laugh
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2013, 01:39:42 AM
Die TMac..that goddamn fake creepy laugh
ive been listening since the 11th inning cause it might get epic but they are both beyond belief
how old is john mcdonald
better yet how is he still in baseball
this is incredible
tomas perez was the best
(http://i.imgur.com/m6hVPXm.jpg)
shtein!
betcha freddy galvis would have got the ball out of his glove
he was safe by a mile anyway....perfectly placed hit
look at lil guy up in here trollin'
first team that blinks loses.....phils blink was casper wells
Casper cannot hit, pitch or stick with one team very well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2013, 01:50:18 AM
look at lil guy up in here trollin'
basically
i know you 2 grown men worship another grown man who was good at baseball 5 years ago, so...
rhino looks like he wats to go out there
i don't blame him...this is painful
lol at wheels "he just walked the wrong guy"
eagle chants!!
why and how are you listening to wheeler
ive got the dbacks guys on. they suck, but its not a disaster
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 01:52:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2013, 01:50:18 AM
look at lil guy up in here trollin'
basically
i know you 2 grown men worship another grown man who was good at baseball 5 years ago, so...
lol...
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 01:56:32 AM
why and how are you listening to wheeler
because im a tv guy not a computer guy so i don't have the choice.....the volume i on because a. i wanted to heard a classic game and b. they are now losing so i love to here these douchebags have to announce what to them is a huge loss
wilson valdez is the like the 1972 miami dolphins
the dbacks franchise record for walks in a game is four....two guys tonight have 5 bb
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2013, 02:00:06 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 01:56:32 AM
why and how are you listening to wheeler
because im a tv guy not a computer guy so i don't have the choice.....the volume i on because a. i wanted to heard a classic game and b. they are now losing so i love to here these douchebags have to announce what to them is a huge loss
ive already explained how you can get mlbtv on your actual tv, but you are just the worst so there no point
#rallytime
Ruf n stuff is gonna tie it again if someone gets on
after they bat around
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2013, 02:05:52 AM
Ruf n stuff is gonna tie it again if someone gets on
after they bat around
ha
the phils rock ruf and stuff with those afro puffs
farging chooch caught all 18 innings tonight. Miracle juice.
Ah farg, it's over.
when is hawaii falling into the pacific ocean
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 02:24:20 AM
when is hawaii falling into the pacific ocean
lol....easy
doc is starting tomorrow
welcome back you washed up freak show
yea i really dont like him at all but if you asked south jersey theyd have him as an all time great phillie
his legacy is getting out dueled by lincecum in game 1 of the 2010 nlcs
playoff no hitter = who cares
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 03:09:15 AM
his legacy is getting out dueled by lincecum in game 1 of the 2010 nlcs
playoff no hitter = who cares
but hes the quiet white type so hes john wayne to the fanbase
can you direct me to a new favorite team please?.....someone munson doesnt also root for
i dont mind the rangers...fun to watch. the a's are an easy team to root for, too, but you probably hate billy beane because he doesnt care about pitchers records or something.
yeah i cant do texas or billy bean
im eyeing up seattle
seattle sucks...the phillies will be back before them
deeeeeee-troit?
too easy
how bout them nats!!??
if they play really well they can catch atlanta...braves are hurt and will crumble
When Ruf hit his dinger in the eighth I literally had to mute the game because of T-Mac's idiotic squealing.
Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2013, 06:14:48 AM
When Ruf hit his dinger in the eighth I literally had to mute the game because of T-Mac's idiotic squealing.
lol
it really is embarrassing
how can a classic 130 year old franchise have such a terrible announcing crew
The funny thing is Franzke & L.A. are really enjoyable to listen to. Why they aren't the tv crew is beyond me. Ah well... just another disappointing yet totally fixable aspect of this wretched franchise.
yes
the worst part of carts is that he came from the mets...wheels is an all time bad announcer but at least hes from philly and grew up philly
Not trying to say I told you so, but I told you so. Actually, it's pretty much guaranteed that my prediction (78 wins) will still be a few games over their final record. They're 58-71 (129 games in) right now with 33 left which means they'd have to go 20-13 just to reach 78 wins. Not gonna happen. 13-20 is much more realistic which would put them at 71-91. The only thing worse than the Phillies were your predictions. Even Havas had misguided optimism on this one.
Quote from: MDS on March 31, 2013, 05:37:02 AM
80 wins, 3rd place
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 31, 2013, 06:25:13 AM
78 wins. 4th place.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2013, 07:19:02 AM
92 wins, wild card.
Quote from: SD on March 31, 2013, 07:25:12 AM
86 wins. No playoffs.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 31, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
I'll take 84.
Quote from: Munson on March 31, 2013, 01:07:14 PM
85 wins
Quote from: Don Ho on March 31, 2013, 04:58:26 PM
81 wins, they'll tease us with a nice little streak in August then fall flat on their asses.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 31, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
i think they are a .500 team more or less....ill say a little more as theres legit reason to be optimistic for an offensive improvement
83 wins
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 31, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
91-71
Choke, Grit and Jimmy the Pimp all have good seasons
Quote from: Geowhizzer on March 31, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
On the optimistic side, I'd say in the 86-88 range.
Quote from: SunMo on April 01, 2013, 12:29:04 PM
90 wins....WC playoff spot
Take my 86 and subtract the 8 addition I thought Halladay would get that he didn't, and I'd be at your 78.
Can I help it I'm a more positive person than you, Nancy Negative?
... in other words, yeah, my optimistic prediction sucked. I thought they'd be mediocre, maybe very slightly above that if Halladay was even competent this year. Turned out that Doc's arm exploded, and the team is descending greater depths of suckitude than even Todd's writing could reach.
Halladay activated and J.C. Ramirez called up from LV. Tyler Cloyd and Luis Garcia sent down to make room.
Haha....I didn't think I was being negative at all. It's looking like my prediction is going to be 5 or 6 games over their final tally. So I was actually being optimistic.
I just felt there were way too many "They'll be good if blah happens." in order for them to even be .500. Think about all the question marks going into the season:
Doc's arm (did not pan out)
Lee (panned out for the most part)
Utley's knees (panned out)
Howard's health (did not pan out)
The bullpen (lol)
Corner outfield (lol)
M Young's defense (meh)
Dom Brown (power good, defense bad, plate discipline and defense lol)
4th and 5th pitchers (up and down)
Chooch minus drugs (meh)
That's a lot of things to be counting on to go right, especially over 162 game season. And that's not even factoring in the things that you don't count on, like Hamels being crazy inconsistent or Paplebon blowing more than his fair share of saves, or basticho getting popped, Revere sucking to start the season and hitting the DL, etc, etc.
Just too many things they needed to go right while miraculously avoiding all the expected setbacks that come with 162 games.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 25, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Halladay activated and J.C. Ramirez called up from LV. Tyler Cloyd and Luis Garcia sent down to make room.
One of the bets (for a cheesesteak) I made with a buddy before the season was that Doc wouldn't average more than 5 2/3 IP. Right now he's gone 34.1 innings over 7 starts, which is like 4.9 per game. I guess he could get about 6 more starts if he stays activated the rest of the season, but in order for me to lose this bet, he'd have to average about 7 IP per start the rest of the way.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 25, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
Haha....I didn't think I was being negative at all. It's looking like my prediction is going to be 5 or 6 games over their final tally. So I was actually being optimistic.
I just felt there were way too many "They'll be good if blah happens." in order for them to even be .500. Think about all the question marks going into the season:
Doc's arm (did not pan out)
Lee (panned out for the most part)
Utley's knees (panned out)
Howard's health (did not pan out)
The bullpen (lol)
Corner outfield (lol)
M Young's defense (meh)
Dom Brown (power good, defense bad, plate discipline and defense lol)
4th and 5th pitchers (up and down)
Chooch minus drugs (meh)
That's a lot of things to be counting on to go right, especially over 162 game season. And that's not even factoring in the things that you don't count on, like Hamels being crazy inconsistent or Paplebon blowing more than his fair share of saves, or basticho getting popped, Revere sucking to start the season and hitting the DL, etc, etc.
Just too many things they needed to go right while miraculously avoiding all the expected setbacks that come with 162 games.
Yeah, Hamel's first half disaster pushed the Phils from mediocrity to suckitude. Since the all-star break, Hamels and Lee kind of flip-flopped:
Hamels: 1-2, 2.52 in seven starts.
Lee: 0-3, 4.50 in five starts.
I'm also starting to get a sinking feeling that there is something wrong with Lee's arm.
talent wise, when everyone is healthy, they are a .500 team...tough to predict all the injuries/complete lack of interest.
corbin needs to start striking this losers out
MAAAyberry managed to hit one.
Doc goes 6 innings, gives up 2 runs.
I see the offense woke up again today.
Quote from: MDS on August 25, 2013, 02:24:20 AM
when is hawaii falling into the pacific ocean
When you come visit.
Bernadina is batting .178
Quote from: Don Ho on August 26, 2013, 07:13:54 PM
Bernadina is batting .178
Good to see him fitting in with the rest of the team.
Wheels after Bernadina botches the fly ball "That's a shame"
No it's not. It's hilarious.
Good start by Lee tonight. Only run was the blown fly ball in the outfield.
Time for Papelbon to come blow it.
Papsmear with the save. I've come to expect him to yak in these situations.
Tomorrow I listen to the Mets announcers.
why would you ever not listen to the met announcers...even if the phillies werent unlistenable the mets booth might be the best in all of sports
Yeah I listened to them last night.
When Papsmear struck out ol boy in the 9th on that painted fastball - no disagreement from the Mets guys. They agreed it was a good nasty pitch. Any other broadcast and they'd be whining about it not being a strike even though it was.
i was thinking that same thing.....they are so amazing
A bobblehead of them is being given out at tonight's game
(http://mlb.mlb.com/nym/images/promotions/y2013/180x141_gary_keith_ron_bobble.jpg)
easy do you like tmac and wheeler
lol at papsmear
can't stand TMac, and Wheels is like your dad or granddad that is hardcore into baseball and old timey stuff but has zero clue about anything in the 2000s
whitey seemed like your grandfather.....wheels seems like the douchey know it all old guy next store that knows absolutely nothing and who you try at all costs to avoid
or wheels just might be the devil himself
Apparently IGY doesn't get that the douchey old guy next door is somebody's grandfather...
Wheels is that creepy uncle who wears sweatpants to family functions and wants the co-eds to sit on his lap
Can we please stop talking about that asshat and concentrate on more Love/Hate Jimmy talk?
Cause that would be super.
Kyle Kendrick.
Boy he's regressed to the mean pretty quickly this year.
lol at the bases clearing double to that farging clown pitcher with the nosejob
Good news: It was quick tonight.
who is watching this
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/10_reasons_the_2013_Phillies_will_makes_the_playoffs.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/10_reasons_the_2013_Phillies_will_makes_the_playoffs.html)
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/39606/victorino-proving-to-be-free-agent-bargain
Another awesome call from Roob.
Quote from: smeags on August 28, 2013, 08:36:37 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/10_reasons_the_2013_Phillies_will_makes_the_playoffs.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/10_reasons_the_2013_Phillies_will_makes_the_playoffs.html)
jesus why is it that the dumbest, worst people in this world are the ones who decide to sign up and comment on an article? can't believe how many people took that seriously.
QuoteI hate to say it, but I really don't want the Phils to make the playoffs this year. Considering their lack of offense and their bullpen, they'd just get blown out in the first round, just as the Braves always do. Maybe next year.
the TATErs live on
QuoteDodgers, Phillies Interested In Edinson Volquez
By Zach Links [August 28, 2013 at 8:27pm CST]
The Padres requested release waivers on pitcher Edinson Volquez earlier today but it doesn't sound like he'll be unemployed for long. The Dodgers have serious interest in signing Volquez given Chris Capuano's struggles, sources tell ESPN.com's Buster Olney (via Twitter). Meanwhile, Phillies GM Ruben Amaro says that they have discussed the former All-Star internally, writes Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com.
For the Dodgers, Volquez could be plugged in as the No. 5 starter in place of Capuano as they gear up for the postseason. Capuano, 35, has a 6.98 ERA across his last four starts and has struggled with consistency all year long. The Phillies obviously aren't going anywhere in 2013, but they could plug Volquez into their rotation and evaluate him as an option going forward. Volquez hasn't been terribly sharp in 2013, as evidenced by his 6.01 ERA on the year with 7.3 K/9 and 4.4 BB/9 in 27 starts.
Aaaaaaaand the Dodgers signed him.
Way to lose out, Smug. Idiot
farg smug, Smug sucks.
Although it's been said many times many ways this Mets broadcast team is farging easy on the ears. Damnit they're good. I take it that it was Darling that critiqued Heidi's throw to second and that comebacker. Just a great breakdown on Heidi's lack of basic fundamentals. Wheels would have been all "he just loves the game. he knows he made a mistake there".
10 bucks says bernadina gets released in the next 48 hrs
We can only pray. Batting .170 now. Thanks for the great catches on Sunday Roger. See ya.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 28, 2013, 09:58:10 PM
10 bucks says bernadina gets released in the next 48 hrs
I think you meant to say he gets a contract extension in the next 48hrs
wait are people mad they didnt get edinson volquez?
Not mad but annoyed they didn't get him to take a shot on him.
This is gold, Jerry...gold!
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/08/29/nj-governer-christie-says-he-hates-the-phillies/
Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green Party, Communist, Muslim Brotherhood or what ever, i don't give a shtein. All I know is I love the fat bastich!
Quote"Ruben Amaro is an awful general manager," Christie said.
through 4 innings, Ethan Martin has 9Ks. Big improvement from his abysmal performance on Saturday.
not to worry ... this loaded line-up will score 5 runs with ease to win this game.
so J wants is 'annoyed' his team didnt take a shot on a horrible pitcher and donho loves fat racist homophobic republican douchebags
this place...
didnt that homophobic republican gov just sign a bill banning licensed therapists in New Jersey from trying to change minors' sexual orientation ?
It's Todd man, c'mon.
Quote from: smeags on August 29, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
not to worry ... this loaded line-up will score 5 runs with ease to win this game.
3 day games at Wrigley coming up. supposed to be hot which is when Wrigley becomes a batting cage. Of course this lineup will probably score 5 runs all series.
How, how, please tell me how Defargus is on a major league roster?
I occasionally respond to MDS in the faint hope of him not being a jackass but mostly I just ignore him. He's really been more awful than usual lately, though.
wait does this board like chris christie?
where have i been
Quote from: Don Ho on August 29, 2013, 03:52:50 PM
How, how, please tell me how Defargus is on a major league roster?
He's cannon fodder.
Quote from: MDS on August 29, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
wait does this board like chris christie?
where have i been
Third World Texas, son. That's where you've been.
puro valley
Player A:
124/503 48 5 35 17 .247
Player B:
104/382 60 16 50 7 .272
Man, I can't figure out why the fanbase is more likely to give Player B a pass...must be because he's white.
Finally signed the Cuban. 3 years $12 million. Far cry from the rumored 7 years $50 million.
munson - u farging racist !
I had the game on at the office and shut it off when they went down 5-0. I can't believe those idiots came back and won.
Igy was like 4 rows behind the phils dugout...saw a hell of a game
Quote from: SunMo on August 30, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
Igy was like 4 rows behind the phils dugout...saw a hell of a game
I thought I saw him. Was he wearing a blue Phillies t shirt? Bunch of guys I work with went today, the Green Legion had like 300 something people go out there for that game. They're hitting up ND/Temple tomorrow then the Phils again on Sunday.
Quote from: SD on August 30, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on August 30, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
Igy was like 4 rows behind the phils dugout...saw a hell of a game
I thought I saw him. Was he wearing a blue Phillies t shirt? Bunch of guys I work with went today, the Green Legion had like 300 something people go out there for that game. They're hitting up ND/Temple tomorrow then the Phils again on Sunday.
An old dude I know from the golf course I work at is a part of that big group, apparently he was responsible for at least some of the hotel booking for them. According to him, it was supposed to be just 50-60 people, but when they put the word out, they got so much interest that he ended up having to call and look for more accommodations.
Quote from: SD on August 30, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on August 30, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
Igy was like 4 rows behind the phils dugout...saw a hell of a game
I thought I saw him. Was he wearing a blue Phillies t shirt? Bunch of guys I work with went today, the Green Legion had like 300 something people go out there for that game. They're hitting up ND/Temple tomorrow then the Phils again on Sunday.
yeah, i don't know, it was over before i got home. of course it's hard not to recognize his ugly face
sixers t shirt Phillies hat
hottest day of my life
such a great time and great game
no exaggeration at least 70% phillie fans
Quote from: SunMo on August 30, 2013, 06:33:52 PM
of course it's hard not to recognize his ugly face
lol go farg yourself......btw next time you are down we are going to watch the game on my dvr and spend 9 innings doing nothing but looking for me
Hotter than the day I saw you at Lehigh and you were baked like a lobster?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
Hotter than the day I saw you at Lehigh and you were baked like a lobster?
yes because this was four hours in the middle of the day
Did you;
Tell Jimmy he was GAWD?
Flip off Papelbon and tell him that Obama was coming for his guns?
See Smug?
Tell Mayberry his name is really Triple-A-Berry?
Hey if Papsmear blows a game when he's walking off the field tell him "yo I didn't come here for this"
things heard from my mouth today
"aaaaaaaayo jimmmmmmaaaaaaay"
"throw a strike you hick"
"nice part roger!"
the first one made me laugh
otherwise i dont care
now please for the life of me farg the shtein out of td jesus
John McDonald traded to Boston for someone named Nefi Ogando
Why and why?
Quote from: Don Ho on August 31, 2013, 10:01:32 PM
Why and why?
Phils clearly loading up for their run at the World Series.
Michael Young to the Dodgers
money savers and shtein
They got some fringe prospect midget LHP named Rob Rasmussen
I'm fine with the move because at least you get something not to mention you having young guys who need the pt...but, RAJ screwed this up again because they could have had more at the deadline. He has no foresight whatsoever. It's not like fans were going to say " this team is clearly turning it off for a playoff run because they traded Michael farging Young." They could have packaged him with Chooch and actually got something decent.
Quote from: SD on September 01, 2013, 07:05:51 AM
They could have packaged him with Chooch and actually got something decent.
I doubt it. Michael Young plus Chooch is probably worth less than just Chooch. That's why the Phils had to send not only Michael Young, but also straight-up money to the Dodgers, and what they got in return was a totally worthless minor league pitcher. The only reason they got rid of him is so that Cody Asche can get some more practice in.
Also, Young had a no-trade clause, and wasn't going to be traded to any team who had anything decent to offer.
it was done essentially as a courtesy to MY
the offer from the yanks was better. they were willing to pay his contract and were giving up a better player. but rube thought his team still had a chance july 31.
so instead he gets a loogy at-best prospect and has to give up the $ the rangers gave to pay for MY. great general managing.
Quote from: MDS on September 01, 2013, 12:59:59 PM
but rube thought his team still had a chance july 31.
this is so sad and so true
kendrick is awful
He sure is. I almost fell for his little act earlier this season. You'd think I'd learn by now.
roob better not tender him this winter....especially with gonzo on board now
He's gonna get 8-10 million on the open market. That's what .500 gets you in 2013. No thanks.
Jimmy!...you sons of bitches
30,248
Quote from: Rome on September 02, 2013, 10:13:49 PM
30,248
That's a great crowd for this late in the season with a team that's clearly out of it not to mention football is on the horizon.
Quote from: SD on September 02, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
Jimmy!...you sons of bitches
non hustling son of a bitch
the lineup tonight is unreal
The Ruben Amaro Special!
What's funny is they will still beat the fraud ass Nats
cant win if you cant score....this could be the worst phillies lineup since the 1930's
1997 had some zesty ones...
You think Monty is watching this shtein and wanting to choke slam Smug?
i went last night...jimmy tried for the first time in what had to be months and was pimpin
i cant blame the guy for checking out, lord knows i would. but he showed when hes IN hes still a GOD
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 03, 2013, 07:40:41 PM
cant win if you cant score....this could be the worst phillies lineup since the 1930's
The 1930 lineup was actually pretty good:
C - Spud Davis (.313/14/65)
1B - Don Hurst (.327/17/78)
2B - Fresco Thompson (.282/4/46)
SS - Tommy Thevenow (.286/0/78)
3B - Pinky Whitney (.342/8/117)
LF - Lefty O'Doul (.383/22/97)
CF - Denny Southern (.280/5/36)
RF - Chuck Klein (.386/40/170)
That year, the team had a .315 batting average for the season...
Then there was the pitching...
Phil Collins (the Easy Lover at 16-11, 4.78)
Ray Benge (11-15, 5.70)
Les Sweetland (7-15, 7.71)
Claude Willoughby (4-17, 7.59)
The team totals? 52-102, 6.17 ERA.
--The Geowhizzer Sports Bureau
I remembered that the 1930 team had good / great hitters and all-time lousy pitching. Baseball-Reference.com provided the details.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 03, 2013, 10:18:26 PM
I remembered that the 1930 team had good / great hitters and all-time lousy pitching. Baseball-Reference.com provided the details.
1. bahahaha no you didnt remember the team from 19THIRTY at all....you had no clue....i just said the 30TEES and you looked up one year in the decade...but apparently that's the team you remembered...lol
2. fyi there probably isnt a single player from the 30's who would even make the team today
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 04, 2013, 05:56:45 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 03, 2013, 10:18:26 PM
I remembered that the 1930 team had good / great hitters and all-time lousy pitching. Baseball-Reference.com provided the details.
1. bahahaha no you didnt remember the team from 19THIRTY at all....you had no clue....i just said the 30TEES and you looked up one year in the decade...but apparently that's the team you remembered...lol
2. fyi there probably isnt a single player from the 30's who would even make the team today
Um... no. I did remember the 1930 team with the great hitting and historically bad pitching (and note that I did say I looked up the individual stats). Big baseball fan, history guy, read up a ton on the Phils, etc.
I know that you believe everyone shares your complete ignorance, but that isn't true. So this "lol" is on you.
lol @ GRITS arm
Dammit, my audio reverted back to Wheels and the other bald idiot and I'm too lazy to get up to change it. I think that Wheeler jerks off to a picture of Utley.
diekmans splits are stupid
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9179/situational/
he only should be facing batters who dominant hand is the of the left variety
Papelbon doing what he does best now. Sucking.
It's going to be a long last two years of that deal.
not according to romey and easy
Jawnny Paps needs to be sent back to Bahston on the first thing smokin'.
Freddy walks it off.
lil guy will be in here later telling us its time to dump Jimmy
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Jawnny Paps needs to be sent back to Bahston on the first thing smokin'.
Just basing it on lost velocity, I'm guessing there's an arm surgery in his future - whether a "clean-up" this offseason or something next year. He was a mid-90s guy when he was good. Right now he's topping off at 91 or so.
A strikeout pitcher who can't get strikeouts isn't much good.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 07, 2013, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
Jawnny Paps needs to be sent back to Bahston on the first thing smokin'.
Just basing it on lost velocity, I'm guessing there's an arm surgery in his future - whether a "clean-up" this offseason or something next year. He was a mid-90s guy when he was good. Right now he's topping off at 91 or so.
A strikeout pitcher who can't get strikeouts isn't much good.
yeah this is why you dont give closers five year deals for ANY money much less what rood paid this clown
wow just saw freddie g had four hits
humph?
i said before he really doesnt have a spot in philly other than a bench guy because of crawford
i love jimmy like anyone else but im not IN love with him. if he dies, he dies. he had a great run and hell get the hof treatment when its over. if he finishes his career in oakland so be it
soccer fans cant be in love with jimmy
im not in love with athletes...actors..musicians...IE people i dont know and have no relationship with
but if thats your thing then ok boss
that's my point...you are in love with a flag and a country not any individual
no i am in love with dirty foreigners not succeeding...and pissing them off by winning something we as a culture barely care about.
plus im bored with the current era phillies. they are there to entertain me and that is currently not happening.
xenophobic monster you are
i cant limit my hate to just foreigners...i hate republicans, new yorkers, new englanders, people from west of montgomery county, most white people, jews, religious people, donovan mcnabb, persians. the list goes on
go phillies
i cant relate
you CAN sober up?
I was hitting it hard all day and fell asleep with the losers winning. I see Papeldouche blew another save. Which is nice.
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2013, 03:30:37 AM
i cant limit my hate to just foreigners...i hate republicans, new yorkers, new englanders, people from west of montgomery county, most white people, jews, religious people, donovan mcnabb, persians. the list goes on
go phillies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-pFAFsTFTI
Ruf just gave Johnny Pap another lead to blow! :D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 08, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
Ruf just gave Johnny Pap another lead to blow! :D
No chance for Pap to blow the lead - Rosenberg out to close the game.
Interleague next year if anyone gives a shtein:
Home = Toronto, LA Angels, Houston, Seattle
Away = Toronto, LA Angels, Oakland, Texas
The full schedule should be announced sometime today
For the away series, Toronto is the only city I'd be interested in going to. Been to LA and Dallas and who the farg visits Oakland on purpose?
If only one of the most beautiful cities on the planet was right near Oakland.
Been to San Fran a couple times already. So I'm good.
here's the schedule (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=phi&partnerId=as_mlb_20130910_11749404#y=2014&m=4&calendar=DEFAULT)
-- Open at Texas
-- Home opener vs the Brewers
-- Three west coast trips (COL/LAD/AZ in April, LAA/SF in August, SD/OAK in September)
-- 19 out of 27 at home in May
-- In Pittsburgh for July 4th again
-- 19 out of 26 on the road in late August/most of September before finishing at home against the Braves
DFW in early April actually might not suck. I mean, it's Texas so it's definitely going to suck but the weather should be decent. I've been to Dallas at least a half dozen times. No real desire to go back, but their ballpark is 1 I wouldn't mind visiting. Might have to plan a trip to Austin to visit my sister and then just make the drive up for a game.
early july in milwaukee? cubs at home that weekend, albeit not against the phils. still....FAT CHICKS FROM WISCONSIN
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 10, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
For the away series, Toronto is the only city I'd be interested in going to. Been to LA and Dallas and who the farg visits Oakland on purpose?
I was just at Oakland Alameda Coliseum last week. Saw the Rangers/A's game on Tuesday night. The place is a shtein hole. Makes the Vet look like the Taj Mahal. What was mind boggling was here was a game for first place and the announced attendance was 18K. I think that was a little generous. Great crowd as far as enthusiasm. Lots of spirit and very knowledgeable.
A's should have never left Philadelphia. They deserve to play in front of nobody.
ha - my father was old enough to remember the a's and when they were in the world series every year in the early 70s he would routinely boo the farg out of them on television.
philly.
your pops was born in the 1920's?
more importantly romey remembers the early 70's?
I like how Romey talks of the 70s like it was eons ago. Pretty sure everyone's parents here remembers the 70s since that's the decade that most of us were born, except Munson and Jewvenile.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2013, 07:33:55 AM
Pretty sure everyone's parents here remembers the 70s
no ROMEY remembers the early 70's...not his parents...his dad apparently remembers the 20's
Quote from: Rome on September 10, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
my father was old enough to remember the a's and when they were in the world series every year
the last time the a's were in back to back world series was 1930 and 31
Quote from: Rome on September 10, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
when they were in the world series every year in the early 70s he would routinely boo the farg out of them on television.
i suppose his dad could have told him he booed them on television in the early 70's but this sounds like a first person account to me
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 11, 2013, 07:42:42 AMthe last time the a's were in back to back world series was 1930 and 31
Say what?
a's used to play in philadelphia....im pretty sure romey wasnt talking about his dad remembering 1974
Pretty sure he's saying his dad remembered when they were in Philly and still hated them even when they were in Oakland but ok.
Oy, really? Okay...
My Dad was born in 1929 and remembered the Phillies when they played in Philly. He was an A's fan as a kid. They left and when they became successful in the 1970's he hated then because they rolled out of Philly. He also hated Reggie Jackson because he was a loudmouth colored fella from C-ham.
He and MDS's pops would have been tight.
I just wanna know how farging old Rome is. It's starting to sound like he's a baby boomer.
lol....me too
if pa dukes was born in 29 romey could realistically be like 65
48
Farging hippy baby.
a good lookin 48
romey dont get older he gets better
Damn straight.
romey is twice the man he was 15yrs ago. literally.
reggie jackson is from CHELTENHAM bitches
what
QuoteMontgomery, 67, said Amaro is the executive who will lead a renaissance. "Oh," he said, "Ruben is our general manager." He cited Amaro's willingness to consider a variety of opinions before making a decision.
HOORAY!1
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/phillies/?wss=/philly/sports/phillies&id=223388431
The full article.
The 80s song "out of touch" was playing in my head when reading that.
i pictured this for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMHluTrbVcI
I never get tired of that movie, along with Black Sheep. Spade and Farley could have been a great comedy duo. But then Farley died and Spade might as well have.
pretty crazy stat i just read
since roy halladay has come off the DL he has thrown 162 cutters and sinkers and had ONE swing and miss
Damn
hamels
lee
MAG
bone
?
Vick sighting at the Phillies game. Wonder if he can play RF?
Ummm... I guess I shouldn't sneeze at a 6-run inning, but why the farg did Samuel send Halladay on that? He was out by 50 feet.
How done is Halladay?
Wow. So stunning how quickly he lost it.
Thanks for the memories, dude.
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/341/kxgt.png)
i remember like 3 years ago when he showed up at the end of the 3rd qtr of the sixers/lakers game and sat courtside. it was the height of vick mania...the game literally stopped as he walked to his seat
Quote from: Rome on September 12, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
How done is Halladay?
Wow. So stunning how quickly he lost it.
Thanks for the memories, dude.
How bad was he today? Saw the boxscore that he gave up two of his 4 runs on that weak infield dribbler and subsequent error.
Fell apart in the 5th. Four walks, the infield single and error. Funny thing, the infield single was the lone hit that inning.
Halladay has no consistent command over his pitches. He's walked ten hitters in his last two starts (10.1 innings). He's also struck out 11.
No chance of his option vesting, and I cannot imagine the Phils paying $20 million. It is Ruben Amaro, though, so who knows...
Jimmy with a game saving play.
Yeah, he's a bum.
huge to cause the nats were playoff creepin
i wanted papelbon to blow the save...farg him
Don't we all?
No winter ball for Cuban pitcher Miguel Gonzalez. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20130915_Phils_to_Cuban_star__No_winter_ball.html)
I have the feeling that Ruben wasted another $12 million.
cesar hernandez
yay or nay
Because you care....................
Juan Pierre just tied Joe DiMaggio on all the all time hit list with a double. It is funny as he's out there having a full blown conversation with Jimmy at second.
Johnny Pap up to his usual tricks.
As bad as the birds secondary is there is no more hated athlete in the city than that clown. He is just awful.
I have zero hate for anyone in the Birds secondary. They are simply not very talented by NFL standards. Watching them farg up is like watching Jeremy Horst come in and give up dingers earlier this season. What can be expected of them? Hate is saved for talented guys who talk big and then mail it in, while they clearly wish they were somewhere else. Like Papelbon.
i really hate nate allen and kurt coleman
i kinda hate cary williams
i could care less about bradley fletcher
fletcher bradley is ok
and i love brandon boykin
I hate Nate Allen because at worst he should be a competent player.
I don't hate Kurt Coleman, I only hate that he's still on the roster.
Too early to tell for Cary Williams because I think we've seen his ceiling and floor in consecutive weeks. He falls somewhere in between the 2 and depending on where he lands, I'll adjust my love/hate accordingly.
No real opinion of Bradley Fletcher or his reflection.
Love what I'm seeing from Boykin.
I love Claude Giroux.
And shrimp fried rice.
In case you haven't noticed, and judging by the attendance you haven't, Giancarlo Stanton hit one out that plunked off the top of Planet Hoagie in Ashburn Alley.
http://deadspin.com/giancarlo-stanton-hit-a-baseball-pretty-goddamned-far-1345797870?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Oh farg, I want that guy on the Phillies so bad. Unfortunately so do about 28 other teams.
Speaking of attendance...
Phillies outdrew the Pirates tonight.
the farg is wrong with those yinzers? Your recent-historcally bad baseball team is finally in a playoff fight and you don't support them? Depressed over the Steelers?
Attendance was historically high before September, but Pittsburgh doesn't remember that playoff baseball is better than regular season football. That shtein isn't new either. Check out the piss poor attendance when Clemente got his 3000th hit. That team was about to go to the NLCS too. Pirate fans deserve to have a shtein team.
http://www.youtube.com/v/XsmqqPxb_xM?version=3&hl=en_US
the national media is begging everyone to root for the pirates...like shteinsburgh is some tortured town that deserves my sympathy
farg NO
heidi gets lit up by david wright in his first at bat in three months
mets announcers are talking about john mccain and brian wilson going back n forth about the dodgers pool episode last night...what the hell
QuoteSenator McComplain knows a thing or two about coming in second and watching someone take a plunge in the pool (I mean poll) #POoLITICS
i have to admit this made me laugh
i went from asche to classy
look at HOF rockin the leather
look at darin ruff not rockin the leather....lol
Just realized the last home game of the year is Sunday. I think I'm gonna go just give them a proper send off. Plus squaw's never been to the Bank yet and really wants to check it out.
Anyone else going to see this slop?
Going to that Phils game < watching NFL football
No doubt. But I haven't taken the time to go to a game this year, so I wanna go boo the bums at least once. Besides, I've got the ticket along with the mobile app so I'll still be watching fooseball while I'm at the game.
the phillies are still playing?
No, but they are still charging admission to watch them lose.
lol @ darin ruff in the OF
how is latroy hawkins still throwin 96....really how is latroy hawkins still pitching
LEGGGGGO JIMMMMMMMMAY
latroy is nasty and better than any reliever the phillies have
lol are you drunk
at 40 his stuff is still filth....name a better phillie reliever than him....there are none
12th pick in the draft with a decent shot at #7 or #8 with a week to go
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2013, 04:39:22 PM
at 40 his stuff is still filth....name a better phillie reliever than him....there are none
him and darron oliver have blown more games than times youve been plastered
you still didn't name one
Are you really asking him to name a better reliever than the best reliever in the history of the game?
Jesus Christ the two of you.
no i want him to name a current phillie reliever that is better than latroy hawkins
oh, i see.
carry on then.
ps... the answer is none.
id rather have jake diekman to specifically face left handers than latroy hawkins to face anyone
is that count?
p.s. papelbon is probably better, all things considered, but hes a POS and get aids and die
Looks like Halladay is being taken out 16 pitches into the first inning.
Wow Halladay done....topped out at 83 and soaked with sweat
R.I.P.
he wont quit but for his sake just call it day and go to cooperstown with your pride intact
im not even sure if he can get a major league deal right now
The Angels will sign him. They seem to like paying guys big money to suck and be hurt a lot.
I said it before but this is Greg Maddux all over again. He'll get a bit better, keep pitching for another 3-4 years before finally checking out. He'll never be anything more than a .500 pitcher with an ERA over 4.00.
so...kyle kendrick?
:-D
When is he going to start getting a bit better? He has one game left -- MAYBE -- before he hits the free agent market. He has a 6.71 ERA, is obviously struggling to return from injury, and just pitched a one-inning game where he couldn't top 83mph on the radar. He'll get signed by someone hoping for a miracle, but reality suggests that what you see will be what you get.
Maddux went out as an average starter, not one of the worst in the majors. Put that arm on ice and walk into the sunset, Doc.
He's not going to pitch for the Phillies again, obviously.
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
He's not going to pitch for the Phillies again, obviously.
(http://media.philly.com/images/101111-ruben-amaro-400.jpg)
Quote from: MDS on September 23, 2013, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 23, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
He's not going to pitch for the Phillies again, obviously.
(http://media.philly.com/images/101111-ruben-amaro-400.jpg)
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joey votto has reached first base 310 times this season in 710 plate appearances
GRIT and chooch combined have reached first base 311 times in 845 plate appearances
QuoteIn inquiring about the near-term future of the Phils last Sunday, I did not expect to see that look, upon approaching Amaro at Citizens Bank Park with a thesis (paraphrased here): "My assumption is that with a payroll already around $170 million, a bunch of veterans under contract, Cuban pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez already signed, this isn't a winter where you do big things. Right?"
No need to paraphrase Amaro's immediate answer, which came with the aforementioned look: "Nope."
"Oh," I said, taken aback. "So you're going to be your usual creative self and explore all crazy possibilities?"
"Yep."
from andy martino, who covers the mets or something
this ruben amaro guy is...shall we say...an icehole?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2013, 08:22:38 AM
joey votto has reached first base 310 times this season in 710 plate appearances
GRIT and chooch combined have reached first base 311 times in 845 plate appearances
thankfully gawd jimmay added his 204 times in 641 appearances.
only a 100 times less than GRIT and chooch COMBINED in 200 less at bats and the gawd isnt even an on base guy
Votto has super-high OBP so that aspect of it isn't too interesting, everyone not named Miguel looks like crap in comparison... the way funnier/sadder part is that combined Grit and Chooch only have 135 more appearances.
Ha - Awful call at 2b that ruled Juan Pierre safe on a pickoff when he never got back to the bag was balanced out by an awful call at 1b where the pitcher "tagged" the runner with his bare hand... with the ball still in the glove.
So I guess I'm the only idiot watching this. Jimenez just pulled the stunt of all time on the Marlins (and CB Bucknor).
Awesome.
Or not.
My greatest fan achievement...heckling CB at the Phils-Astros last year and having him turn around and acknowledge me during a pitching change
I can't remember being this disinterested in the bums in forever. At least when they sucked ass before there was always some small, tiny little glimmer wether it be a few studs on the team or a few young bucks on the way up, last years of the Vet, the new ball park, etc.. Hard to get jacked about Ruf, Asche, Galvis, Eathan Martin and the rest on Gilligan's Island. The picture of Smug and Monty on the other thread really brought me down.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 25, 2013, 10:39:47 PM
I can't remember being this disinterested in the bums in forever.
i guess you didnt watch them last season
Up to #10 in the draft and out of the danger zone, and they have Cloyd, Miner and the bullpen pitching in 3 of the 4 games this weekend
The Phillies had 73 walks over Manuel's final 36 games. They have 117 walks over Sandberg's last 36.
i thought you didnt like walking?
BUNTING...PRODUCTION...RUNS...WINS...
huh?....got the wrong people buddy
you are mr. anti advanced stats. the slightest discussion of non-back of the baseball card stats, or simply dismissing some of them, breaks the very foundation of your core.
but you like walks?
I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years....and has been found on the backs of baseball cards since 1981.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years
what is this thing called a walk?
is that like a VORP?
It's exactly like a VORP. Except it's easy to understand and relevant.
delmon young and michael young both playoff bound
philly sports
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 26, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
I'm pretty sure walks has been a notable stat for over a hundred years....and has been found on the backs of baseball cards since 1981.
i thought that youre not up there to walk though?
and walks dont help your AVERAGE
really no one knows what you are talking about.....skip to the next topic at hand
A batters job, at a bare minimum, is to get on base. Hit, walk, hbp....I really don't care how it happens.
a walk isnt as good as a hit but who would ever say its a bad thing.....its better than a strikeout!!
lil billy beane guy trying to co-opt the stat as a sabremetrics invention is just ridiculous
The value of a walk depends on the situation, IMO. Lead off walk is just as good as a lead off single. Drawing a walk with a runner on 3rd and < 2 outs is damn near useless.
a bases empty walk is def better than a single because more often than not it means you probbaly received more pitches
That goes without saying. I'm a bigger fan of a 4+ pitch walk than I am a 1st or 2nd pitch single.
Haha. It's better big picture wise because you're making the pitcher throw more pitches. In the moment, a 1st pitch single or an 8 pitch walk carry the same weight. Runner on 1st, no outs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2013, 07:51:12 AM
really no one knows what you are talking about.....skip to the next topic at hand
Haha yeah he's all over the map. Settle down, Texan Todd.
not making an out is always a good thing
the end.
From Todd Zolecki's blog: Phillies Need A Big Bat, Too (http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2013/09/28/2135137/)
NO shtein!
QuoteIt takes a total package, and that is where Ruben Amaro Jr. comes in. He's got a ton of work to do. He needs to find a big bat to help the offense. He needs an arm or two to fill out the rotation. And he needs a couple arms to fortify the bullpen. Otherwise, the offseason should be pretty easy
And I, for one, have the utmost confidence in him to get that accomplished.
so the money he spent on utley doesnt qualify has a big bat?
theyre probably going to get granderson. i can feel it already. BIG BAT
So we get Eathan Martin and Zach Miner to close the season. Go organization go!
Jimmy says "farg you" to the haters...
and lololol at Terry Pendleton going after that farging clown Chris Johnson
http://deadspin.com/terry-pendleton-roughed-up-chris-johnson-for-sliding-in-1419779112?autoplay=1
so basically anytime jimmy does something good youre going to point it out?
thats 3 times this month. GO JIMMY!
So how long are we stuck watching this pile of shtein Papelbon? The guy has got nothing left. Dudes doner than Doc.
gawd
http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=31027911&c_id=phi
Helluva play. Also loved the Braves fan reaction - and Pendleton trying to start a fight with Reed Johnson (who among us on this thread haven't wanted to do exactly that?).
You'll all be glad to know that El basticho is reinstated.
Getting curb-stomped on the last day of the season.
This is going to be a long, dark era in Phillies history.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 29, 2013, 04:53:48 PM
This is going to be a long, dark era in Phillies history.
Can't be much worse than 1883-1974.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 29, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 29, 2013, 04:53:48 PM
This is going to be a long, dark era in Phillies history.
Can't be much worse than 1883-1974.
That was broken up by a couple of pennants.
Exactly a couple.
Dom Brown
Biddle
Ruff
Asche
for
Gincarlo Stanton
LETS DO THIS
did jimmy rollins do anything noteworthy today?
He tackled better than the Eagles' secondary.
Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
did jimmy rollins do anything noteworthy today?
other than being gawdly no
jimmy rollins had a lower WAR than brendan ryan and nick punto
his ops was .2 higher than zack cosart's
his average was .2 lower than zack cosart's
BUT....
WAR...what is it good for?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2013, 07:52:18 PM
WAR...what is it good for?
its a pretty good indication of how each player compares to the league average. you know, math and shtein. defense aside the phillies could have played freddy galvis at SS and would have been just as zesty as they were.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h0zWG01ym4
there is no point in talking about baseball with people who go full head-in-sand with any kind of widely-accepted statistic that just so happened to not be around when they are growing up
jimmy rollins had a 0.1 war. that sucks. thats a fact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2013, 07:57:38 PM
there is no point in talking about baseball with people who go full head-in-sand with any kind of widely-accepted statistic that just so happened to not be around when they are growing up
jimmy rollins had a 0.1 war. that sucks. thats a fact.
You don't really need to even use WAR to illustrate that Jimmy was pretty terrible this year. He's still my favorite Phillie but yeah.
in 2007 when he won the mvp jimmy had a 6.0 war
this season when hit 253 with a 320 obp and sub 700 ops he had a 0.1 war
USELESS STAT TELLS ME NOTHING
Everything fell their way today and they ended up with the #7 pick in the draft, which means more draft pool money, more international money, and their pick is protected in free agency
Cool. The Phillies will now have a slightly better chance of having a better player who will join their team 5 years from now from a draft in which more than 50% of the top players are usually busts, unless they trade him away like they do with 90% of their picks or the kid just decides to go to college instead.
I wonder why people don't get more excited about the MLB draft.