Tra Thomas
Jon Runyan
Correll Buckhalter
Brian Dawkins
Sean Considine
Joselio Hanson
LJ Smith
Nick Cole (RFA)
Hank Baskett (RFA)
I would guess that neither Baskett or Cole will leave.
Dawk should be re-signed to a 2yr deal and seemed confident that he would be back.
The two tackles is probably the biggest decision to be made. Its unlikely that they will sign both. Which one will the bring back? Would they re-sign Runyan and slide Herremans out to the left?
Herremans
Cole
Jackson
Andrews
Runyan
Or do they go after a guy like Jordan Gross?
Who do you want brought back? Who do you want them to go after?
I'm on the Peppers bandwagon.
Can Peppers play QB when the team's losing late in the 4th quarter?
Nope, but maybe he can sack the opposing team's QB as he stands in the pocket and eats a sandwich while going 5-5 for 56 yards to go to the SB.
Well played.
So, the question is this: If the Eagles do not re-sign Sean Considine, will he be in the NFL next year?
Keep Buck, keep Cole, and thank the rest for their contributions. I'd love to see either or both tackles back, but they both seem to be at the point where replacing them is not going to come with a significant dropoff.
To hell with the draft. Use those first round picks to get anyone. Offense, defense, doesn't matter.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 20, 2009, 01:38:53 PM
Well played.
So, the question is this: If the Eagles do not re-sign Sean Considine, will he be in the NFL next year?
He will be. I would bet that he is signed by the Eagles. With him, Demps, Mikell and bringing Dawk back the roles are defined. Considine would resume his STs duties.
If he is not brought back, he will end up somewhere.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 20, 2009, 01:38:57 PM
Keep Buck, keep Cole, and thank the rest for their contributions. I'd love to see either or both tackles back, but they both seem to be at the point where replacing them is not going to come with a significant dropoff.
To hell with the draft. Use those first round picks to get anyone. Offense, defense, doesn't matter.
I hope Buck is back too. He said he wants to start, but that ain't happening. I would like to see him back and then they draft a legit 3rd guy. No more Bookers, Hunts or Moats. But then again, if a team who runs more or even promises to use him more than the Eagles, he will bolt.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2009, 01:45:45 PM
If he is not brought back, he will end up somewhere.
Iowa, or hell?
The Land of Misfit Safeties.
Hanson is going to be interesting. I think they have to bring him back. Lito is all but gone and there is no way he will accept the nickel role. If both Hanson and Sheppard leave, that is a big hole to fill.
What can they get for Lito? His value has diminished greatly.
Peppers would be my #1 offseason priority
For the O-line I think they'll try to bring both Tra and Runyan back. Runyan's the Jackie Slater type that can still play into his mid to late 30's, his consecutive games streak is proof of that plus he wants to come back so they can probably sign him to a cap friendly deal. I don't think Gross is an option because I think he gets tagged by Carolina, they finally got their O-line intact and a Gross/Otah tandem is good for years to come. What it comes down to with Tra is he's still good and most importantly there isn't a better option out there.
Buck wants to start, more than likely what's going to happen is a team is going to come along and tell him he'll have the opportunity to start with them. He knows he'll never get that here which sucks because he's very underrated.
I'm pretty confident Dawk's back, he had a solid year.
Someone with the league wide F/A list should post it, I'm too lazy.
no point in even posting the fa list until march 1st...what it looks like now will be vastly different from what it looks like then and it only gets your hopes up for certain guys who arent gonna hit the market anyway
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
The Land of Misfit Safeties.
Hanson is going to be interesting. I think they have to bring him back. Lito is all but gone and there is no way he will accept the nickel role. If both Hanson and Sheppard leave, that is a big hole to fill.
What can they get for Lito? His value has diminished greatly.
that quick little farger Leonard from the ravens is a free agent. not too sure i like the 5'8 ish frame but he makes plays
I'll just throw this out there:
There was a rumor at the deadline that the Eagles were looking at Kellen Winslow Jr., if he were made available would anyone be interested? The Browns could use a CB so maybe Lito and a pick would get it done. I know Celek is a nice player but he's not stretching a D anytime soon and Andy's history says we're not adding a #1 WR so he might be the best option.
This sudden Celek love is ridiculous. Of course I would take Winslow over Celek.
the Browns have needed a corner for 10 years. Nobody wants Lito
Winslow is a game changing TE that should only be brought in if both his knees work
I'd be very happy to have Winslow and Celek as the two TEs. I think Winslow is an idiot and an icehole, but he can ball.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
I'd be very happy to have Winslow and Celek as the two TEs. I think Winslow is an idiot and an icehole, but he can ball.
Exactly. Plus using 2-TE sets more often could help all aspects of the offense.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 20, 2009, 01:38:53 PM
Well played.
So, the question is this: If the Eagles do not re-sign Sean Considine, will he be in the NFL next year?
Matt Ware is still in the NFL. Dhani Jones is still in the NFL. Parity rules!
Quote from: reese125 on January 20, 2009, 02:39:42 PM
Winslow is a game changing TE that should only be brought in if both his knees work
His history of injuries are a concern but if they can get him without giving away the farm go for it.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 20, 2009, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 20, 2009, 01:38:53 PM
Well played.
So, the question is this: If the Eagles do not re-sign Sean Considine, will he be in the NFL next year?
Matt Ware is still in the NFL. Dhani Jones is still in the NFL. Parity rules!
I think he filled in nicely when needed against the Gints. I say we re-sign at a cheap amount.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 20, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Someone with the league wide F/A list should post it, I'm too lazy.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html (http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html)
I'd say Brandon Jacobs, but he'll want to start wherever he goes, so he's probably out.
I'll take T.J. Houshmanzadeh and Peppers. Thanks.
Peppers is pushing big time to go to a 3-4 scheme. I dont think it happens
Sign TJ please.
Draft a RB.
Sign a real FB.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 20, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
I'd be very happy to have Winslow and Celek as the two TEs. I think Winslow is an idiot and an icehole, but he can ball.
Yep.
I remember reading that Edwards wanted out of Cleveland too. He had some pretty scathing remarks about the Browns at the end of the season.
Ryan Moats, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles
:-D :-D farging :-D
Jacobs would be sweet. shtein I'll take Ward.
Terrell Suggs or Karlos Dansby instant upgrade at LB. I can only hope for Julius Peppers. Trent Cole and Peppers would be quite the mix of speed and power. TJ Hous I would def. like to see in Eagle uniform. Although the likes of Boldin are even better if we can somehow get him. I'd like to keep Buck, but I'd also take a back like Ward. No fullbacks? Sign the best damn FB available.
If they keep Buck, I am okay with them drafting a back in rounds 1-3. WR and LB right now seem like we need to instantly upgrade and go with proven vets via free agency or trade. I'd like to see them hold onto Joselio, but if not we need a proven nickleback to fill this spot. Tackle positions, well I think Tra and Runyan both come back, but we need to hit the draft and or free agent market hard for the future. I think in the draft I'd like to see top 3 picks be, T, LB, and RB.
Jonathan Vilma, UFA, New Orleans Saints
Damm, this guy is always around. Remember we were all high on this guy several years back?
Can he still play? Didn't hear much about him this year.
albert mother farging haynesworth.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 20, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Jonathan Vilma, UFA, New Orleans Saints
Damm, this guy is always around. Remember we were all high on this guy several years back?
Can he still play? Didn't hear much about him this year.
he just got arrested
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 20, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on January 20, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Jonathan Vilma, UFA, New Orleans Saints
Damm, this guy is always around. Remember we were all high on this guy several years back?
Can he still play? Didn't hear much about him this year.
he just got arrested
So his get-away speed isn't what it used to be.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 20, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on January 20, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Jonathan Vilma, UFA, New Orleans Saints
Damm, this guy is always around. Remember we were all high on this guy several years back?
Can he still play? Didn't hear much about him this year.
he just got arrested
So he's a Cowboy then?
i think Vilma had a pretty bad injury that most teams were wary of last season, but leave it to the taints to pick him up. i'll pass.
Quote from: mussa on January 20, 2009, 08:07:41 PM
i think Vilma had a pretty bad injury that most teams were wary of last season, but leave it to the taints to pick him up. i'll pass.
If he got injured he has Eagle written all over him.
Well supposedly when Mangini brought in his 3-4 defense Vilma did not adjust well to it and was pushed around by the OLINE of opposing teams. He wanted to play in a 4-3 but the Saints D is terible just all around and I did not hear much of Vilma.
I think right now a quality TE would be more likely for the Eagles. They love the WRs they have...ALWAYS. But with LJ gone I can not believe they would be happy with just keeping Celek and Shoebel.
They need a 2nd back, a FB, OLINE depth, and a TE badly. And I think they will address those positions. The LB position they think they are set for another 5 years or so...I dont see them making a move there.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on January 21, 2009, 09:15:03 AM
Well supposedly when Mangini brought in his 3-4 defense Vilma did not adjust well to it and was pushed around by the OLINE of opposing teams. He wanted to play in a 4-3 but the Saints D is terible just all around and I did not hear much of Vilma.
I think right now a quality TE would be more likely for the Eagles. They love the WRs they have...ALWAYS. But with LJ gone I can not believe they would be happy with just keeping Celek and Shoebel.
They need a 2nd back, a FB, OLINE depth, and a TE badly. And I think they will address those positions. The LB position they think they are set for another 5 years or so...I dont see them making a move there.
Pettigrew is the guy I keep seeing...but if hes that good, there alot of team that are ahead of the Eagles that can use a solid TE to open the field up--it would be nice scoop
Shonn Greene is the guy I want them to get at RB. Watching this dude play on tv, highlights on the internet--he would be the perfect compliment to Westbrook--a guy that stays on his feet after the first hit, nice speed, low to the ground running back
vilma had a real solid year...he just doesnt have the explosiveness he had pre knee injury....and he aint getting younger...ill pass
Quote from: reese125 on January 21, 2009, 10:03:18 AM
Shonn Greene is the guy I want them to get at RB. Watching this dude play on tv, highlights on the internet--he would be the perfect compliment to Westbrook--a guy that stays on his feet after the first hit, nice speed, low to the ground running back
He is a very consistent college back. Which means that he will probably not amount to much in the NFL. Well... at least if the Eagles draft him, he won't.
Mike Goff, Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross.
Jacobs, Hooseyourmama, or Boldin.
Suggs and Boldin thank you
Why would any FA RB want to come to a team that usually avoids running the ball like the plague?
Unless they somehow assured Jacobs he would get his 20 carries a game no matter what he would never ever leave the Giants.
Of course that is what I would want them to do but we all know that is not happening. Counting on a balanced offense with this coach is just a pipe dream. At most the Eagles will keep Buck, unless some dumb team offers him a starting job, and once again try to draft a RB. Hopefully this time they do not wait till the 3rd or 4rth round and draft a bust. Or draft a bust at all. Since we all know Westbrook will miss at least 2-3 games and be lingered with injuries during the stretch run they need a 2nd back. Forte would have looked so nice in Eagles green. I know its hindsight but had the Eagles drafted Forte and Jackson with their top 2 picks I think they would have been a much more consistent/solid offense.
Peppers I am not that much interested in. He is a beast but rumors out of Panthers camp say he was half-assing it last season and he does not really enjoy playing the game. He has publicly admitted many times basketball is his passion. This was the contract year and he played his butt off but what when happens when he gets his money? Besides he claims to maximize his true talent he wants to play in a 3-4 scheme.
TJ would be a perfect compliment to the speedy undersized WRs they have right now. TJ, Jackson, Curtis, Avant would make a very complete WR corps. Add a rookie TE + Celek and the offense should be set skill position wise.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 21, 2009, 06:13:46 PM
Suggs and Boldin thank you
I would love for them to sign Suggs. But it is not happening. Not for the money he will want.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on January 21, 2009, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 21, 2009, 06:13:46 PM
Suggs and Boldin thank you
I would love for them to sign Suggs. But it is not happening. Not for the money he will want.
I wouldn't count money as a reason they wouldn't make a run at him. They've showed in the past they have certain positions they value quite a bit, and they've paid big chunks of change for them. DE is one of those positions.
Quote from: PPinDC on January 21, 2009, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on January 21, 2009, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 21, 2009, 06:13:46 PM
Suggs and Boldin thank you
I would love for them to sign Suggs. But it is not happening. Not for the money he will want.
I wouldn't count money as a reason they wouldn't make a run at him. They've showed in the past they have certain positions they value quite a bit, and they've paid big chunks of change for them. DE is one of those positions.
totally agree that they would pay huge money for a de...but i dont know that they would pay suggs that kind of money nor do i think he warrants it...hes not even a double digit sack guy
Can Suggs be a full time 4-3 DE or did he benefit from the 3-4?
How long did they play a 4-3 in BAL before they switched?
muti-dimensional player that can avg you 8 or 9 sacks and cover the middle like that you snag up
depending how many snaps he played at LB, they could throw the LB tag on him which would be cheaper...but I cant see why they wouldnt sign him long term
so if they keep Lewis and Suggs that leaves Bart Scott as a FA--sure why not
Suggs was a beast in college as a DE. One of the highest sack totals ever. He had over 20 in his final season I believe. I think he had like 23. I think he was a LB in the 3-4 from the minute he arrived in Baltimore.
I think the Eagles would absolutely spend top dollar on Suggs or Peppers. You know how the Eagles value their lines. If they would sign anyone to a big deal I'd say offensive or defensive lineman. They've already shown with Kearse they would.
I'd say there is a real strong chance they pursue Peppers or Suggs.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on January 21, 2009, 06:18:07 PMSince we all know Westbrook will miss at least 2-3 games and be lingered with injuries during the stretch run they need a 2nd back.
Watch out for the language nazis, they're on the prowl lately.
I give you a B+ despite the incorrect usage on account of style and originality.
Ha thanks.
They do value the line a lot. But they value their own picks even more. So would they ever sign a DE when they can waste a 1st round or 2nd round pick on someone? And they would not even do that ...they have Patterson. They love him.
I think Suggs and Lewis sign with the Ravens. Scott and Leonard might be allowed to leave. I would not mind signing either of them.
Quote from: stalker on January 21, 2009, 05:44:38 PM
Mike Goff, Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross.
I have nothing to contribute.
No on Peppers. Smells of Kearse.
Kearse steadily declined in production. Peppers bounced back with a really good year in 2008 and no other major forces on their d-line but him.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 22, 2009, 02:31:45 AM
No on Peppers. Smells of Kearse.
i think you think this way because you like me are convinced that carolina and tennesse are the same team
but id much rather have peppers than suggs...suggs is basically another killa...on that secondary level of pass rushes below the elites like peppers...
No thanks on Peppers. He completely disappeared a year ago, then in his contract year turned in on. He'll also be 30 next year. I see Peppers more of a finesse rush end, I want someone with the "dog" in them, like Suggs. With Dawkins fading, a guy like Suggs could potentially step in and be the leader on D. I don't think he'll leave B'more though.
I would like to see them spend one of the 1s on a DE, or package them to move up and get one. Where is a guy like Orakpo going to go? Top 10? If they go O-Line in the first, I'd like to see them get someone with a lot of talent, but maybe a little raw. Connor Barwin out of Cincy would be a nice fit potentially. Or a guy like Paul Kruger is a definite maybe, being a Mormon. He's not a "fastball" but has the size to potentially anchor and hold the point. Seemed pretty stout against the run in the Sugar Bowl.
peppers also had numerous non contract double digit sack years...has suggs ever had one?...
i personally dont see how anyone could think suggs is a better off the edge pass rusher but if thats the case then so be it however age shouldnt be a factor in who you want...the eagles need the best player right now...not who will be the best player in five years
Suggs does a lot more than rush the passer. I would rather have Suggs.
he wont be playing in a 3-4 here...eagles need a guy who can get to the quarterback not a guy to drop back and sit down in the flat
Is Chester Taylor a FA?
Quote from: rjs246 on January 22, 2009, 11:24:35 AM
Suggs does a lot more than rush the passer. I would rather have Suggs.
He really doesn't. I'm trying to remember where I watched it but someone was breaking him down vs Peppers and noted that Suggs is mainly a pass rusher with pretty good cover skills, but is pretty questionable against the run, which gets lost in the shuffle among the great defense the Ravens play. Where as Peppers is much stouter (is that a word?) against the run in addition to being an
elite pass rusher.
Peppers is a 4-3 guy... we know what he can do in a 4-3, we don't know that about Suggs.
Peppers, please.
Fine whatever. Neither one will be an Eagle next year. There, I said it.
The Eagles drop DE's into coverage occasionally too.
Of course, this is all assuming Jim Johnson is back next year.
thats true but they can have juqua thomas and trent cole do that basically as well as suggs and for 1/4 the price
Quote from: rjs246 on January 22, 2009, 11:35:18 AM
Fine whatever. Neither one will be an Eagle next year. There, I said it.
Of course not. That was a given.
List of FA's, will try to keep it updated....
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QUARTERBACKS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Matt Cassel New England
2. Kurt Warner Arizona
3. Kerry Collins Tennessee
4. Dan Orlovsky Detroit
5. Ryan Fitzpatrick Cincinnati
6. Kyle Boller Baltimore
7. Rex Grossman Chicago
8. Byron Leftwich Pittsburgh
9. J.P. Losman Buffalo
10. Jeff Garcia Tampa Bay
11. David Carr N.Y. Giants
12. Patrick Ramsey Denver
13. Luke McCown Tampa Bay
14. J.T. O'Sullivan San Francisco
15. Charlie Frye Seattle
16. Chris Simms Tennessee
17. Marques Tuiasosopo Oakland
16. Charlie Batch Pittsburgh Injured Reserve
19. Joey Harrington New Orleans
RUNNING BACKS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Brandon Jacobs N.Y. Giants
2. Derrick Ward N.Y. Giants
3. Darren Sproles San Diego
4. J.J. Arrington Arizona Kick Return Specialist
5. Cedric Benson Cincinnati
6. LaMont Jordan New England
7. Maurice Morris Seattle
8. Deshaun Foster San Francisco
9. Rudi Johnson Detroit
10. Kevin Jones Chicago
11. Correll Buckhalter Philadelphia
12. Michael Pittman Tampa Bay
13. Dominic Rhodes Indianapolis
14. Travis Minor St. Louis
15. Jason Wright Cleveland
16. Aaron Stecker New Orleans
17. Jesse Chatman N.Y. Jets
FULLBACKS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Leonard Weaver Seattle
2. Heath Evans New England
3. Lorenzo Neal Baltimore
4. Tony Richardson N.Y. Jets
5. Dan Kreider St. Louis Recently Cut/Street Free Agent
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- John Kuhn Green Bay
- Naufahu Tahi Minnesota
- Montell Owens Jacksonville
TIGHT ENDS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Bo Scaife Tennessee
2. L.J. Smith Philadelphia
3. Jerramy Stevens Tampa Bay
4. Justin Peelle Atlanta
5. Jim Kleinsasser Minnesota
6. Bubba Franks N.Y. Jets
7. Mark Campbell New Orleans
8. Daniel Wilcox Baltimore
9. Jeb Putzier Seattle
10. Billy Bajema San Francisco
11. Tony Stewart Oakland
12. John Owens Detroit
13. Darnell Dinkins Cleveland
14. Will Heller Seattle
15. Ben Troup Ex-Oakland Injured Reserve/Released
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Owen Daniels Houston
- Jeff King Carolina
- Tory Humphrey Green Bay
- Leonard Pope Arizona
- Joel Dreessen Houston
- Sean McHugh Pittsburgh
- Tony Curtis Dallas
WIDE RECEIVERS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Antonio Bryant Tampa Bay
2. Devery Henderson New Orleans
3. T.J. Houshmandzadeh Cincinnati
4. Nate Washington Pittsburgh
5. Michael Clayton Tampa Bay
6. Brandon Jones Tennessee
7. Bryant Johnson San Francisco
8. Brandon Lloyd Chicago
9. Reggie Williams Jacksonville Contract Option
10. Jabar Gaffney New England
11. Justin McCareins Tennessee
12. Dane Looker St. Louis
13. Shaun McDonald Detroit
14. Amani Toomer N.Y. Giants
15. Darrell Jackson Denver
16. Ashley Lelie Oakland
17. Bobby Engram Seattle
18. Koren Robinson Seattle
19. Terrence Copper Baltimore
20. Drew Carter Oakland Injured Reserve
21. Dante Hall St. Louis
22. Mark Jones Carolina
23. Robert Ferguson Minnesota Recently Cut/Street Free Agent
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Malcom Floyd San Diego
- Lance Moore New Orleans
- Miles Austin Dallas
- Demetrius Williams Baltimore
- David Anderson Houston
- Hank Baskett Philadelphia
- Courtney Roby New Orleans Injured Reserve
- Ruvell Martin Green Bay
- Glen Holt Cincinnati
- Jeff Webb Kansas City
- Sam Hurd Dallas Injured Reserve
OFFENSIVE TACKLES
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Jordan Gross Carolina
2. Marc Colombo Dallas Signed Contract Extension
3. Vernon Carey Miami
4. Mark Tauscher Green Bay Injured Reserve/Week 14 ACL Tear
5. Stacey Andrews Cincinnati Injured Reserve/Week 16 ACL Tear
6. Jon Stinchcomb New Orleans
7. Jon Runyan Philadelphia
8. Khalif Barnes Jacksonville
9. Marvel Smith Pittsburgh Injured Reserve -- Back Problems
10. William Thomas Philadelphia
11. Max Starks Pittsburgh
12. George Foster Detroit
13. Ray Willis Seattle
14. Kirk Chambers Buffalo
15. Elton Brown Arizona
16. Daniel Loper Tennessee
17. Trai Essex Pittsburgh
18. Frank Omiyale Carolina
19. Fred Miller Chicago
20. Marcus Johnson Minnesota
21. Brandon Gorin St. Louis
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Willie Colon Pittsburgh
- Tyson Clabo Atlanta
- Donald Penn Tampa Bay
OFFENSIVE GUARDS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Mike Goff San Diego
2. Pete Kendall Washington
3. Cooper Carlisle Oakland
4. Floyd Womack Seattle
5. Chris Kemoeatu Pittsburgh
6. Stephen Peterman Detroit
7. Milford Brown Jacksonville
8. Adrian Jones Kansas City
9. Seth McKinney Cleveland
10. Geoff Hangartner Carolina
11. Russ Hochstein New England
12. Adam Goldberg St. Louis
13. Matt Lehr New Orleans
14. Kynan Forney San Diego
15. Tutan Reyes Jacksonville
16. Jason Fabini Washington
17. Jason Whittle Buffalo
18. Joe Berger Dallas
19. Damion Cook Detroit
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Jahri Evans New Orleans
- Harvey Dahl Atlanta
- Richie Incognito St. Louis
- Mark Setterstrom St. Louis Injured Reserve
- Cory Procter Dallas
OFFENSIVE CENTERS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Jason Brown Baltimore
2. Brad Meester Jacksonville Guard
3. Jeff Saturday Indianapolis
4. Eric Ghiaciuc Cincinnati
5. Matt Birk Minnesota
6. Melvin Fowler Buffalo
7. Duke Preston Buffalo
8. Jeremy Newberry San Diego
9. Nick Leckey St. Louis Injured Reserve
10. Grey Ruegamer New York Giants
11. Brett Romberg St. Louis
12. Chris White Houston
13. Tom Nalen Denver Injured Reserve
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Rudy Niswanger Kansas City
- Nick Cole Philadelphia
- Ben Wilkerson Atlanta
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DEFENSIVE ENDS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Julius Peppers Carolina
2. Terrell Suggs Baltimore
3. Igor Olshansky San Diego
4. Chris Canty Dallas
5. Antonio Smith Arizona
6. Michael Montgomery Green Bay
7. Chauncey Davis Atlanta
8. Demetric Evans Washington
9. Bertrand Berry Arizona
10. Josh Thomas Indianapolis
11. Jason Babin Kansas City
12. Darrell Reid Indianapolis Defensive Tackle
13. Kevin Carter Tampa Bay
14. Corey Smith Detroit
15. Kenechi Udeze Minnesota Non-football Illness
16. Ebenezer Ekuban Denver
17. Eric Moore St. Louis
18. Renaldo Wynn New York Giants
19. Jerome McDougle New York Giants
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Victor Adeyanju St. Louis
- Earl Cochran Houston
- Jason Hunter Green Bay
- Stephen Bowen Dallas
- Otis Grigsby Minnesota
DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Albert Haynesworth Tennessee
2. Rocky Bernard Seattle
3. Jonathan Babineaux Atlanta Signed Contract Extension
4. Jovan Haye Tampa Bay
5. Mike Wright New England
6. Tank Johnson Dallas
7. Shaun Cody Detriot
8. Colin Cole Green Bay
9. C.J. Mosley New York Jets
10. John Thornton Cincinnati
11. Grady Jackson Atlanta
12. La'Roi Glover St. Louis
13. Ryan Sims Tampa Bay
14. Howard Green Seattle
15. Ronald Fields San Francisco
16. Jason Jefferson Atlanta
17. Kenny Peterson Denver
18. Jeff Zgonina Houston
19. Dwan Edwards Baltimore Injured Reserve
20. Ellis Wyms Minnesota
21. Antwan Lake New Orleans
22. William Joseph Oakland
23. Darwin Walker Carolina
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Kedric Golston Washington
- Gabe Watson Arizona
- Anthony Montgomery Washington
- Gary Gibson Carolina
- Fred Evans Minnesota
- Kevin Vickerson Tennessee
- Brandon McKinney Baltimore
LINEBACKERS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Ray Lewis Baltimore
2. Karlos Dansby Arizona
3. Leroy Hill Seattle
4. Jonathan Vilma New Orleans
5. Channing Crowder Miami
6. Bart Scott Baltimore
7. Michael Boley Atlanta
8. Andra Davis Cleveland
9. Takeo Spikes San Francisco
10. Angelo Crowell Buffalo Injured Reserve
11. Marques Harris San Diego
12. Mike Peterson Jacksonville
13. Eric Barton New York Jets
14. Rocky Boiman Kansas City
15. Kevin Burnett Dallas
16. Nate Webster Denver
17. Patrick Thomas Kansas City
18. Coy Wire Atlanta
19. D.D. Lewis Seattle
20. Cody Spencer New York Jets
21. Tyjuan Hagler Indianapolis
22. Clark Haggans Arizona
23. Adam Seward Carolina
24. Ryan Nece Detroit
25. Willie McGinest Cleveland
26. Darryl Blackstock Cincinnati
27. Napoleon Harris Minnesota
28. Monty Beisel Arizona
29. Paris Lenon Detroit
30. Roderick Green San Francisco
31. Sam Williams Oakland
32. Larry Izzo New England
33. Khary Campbell Washington
34. Troy Evans New Orleans
35. Heath Farwell Minnesota Injured Reserve
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Rashad Jeanty Cincinnati
- Ricky Brown Oakland
- Keith Ellison Buffalo
- John Digiorgio Buffalo Injured Reserve
- Pierre Woods New England
- Jon Alston Oakland
- Brian Iwuh Jacksonville
CORNERBACKS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland
2. Chris Gamble Carolina Signed Contract Extension
3. Corey Webster New York Giants Signed Contract Extension
4. Kelvin Hayden Indianapolis
5. Ronald Bartell St. Louis
6. Dunta Robinson Houston
7. Andre' Goodman Miami
8. Domonique Foxworth Atlanta
9. Phillip Buchanon Tampa Bay
10. Bryant McFadden Pittsburgh
11. DeAngelo Hall Washington
12. Jabari Greer Buffalo
13. Eric Green Arizona
14. Chris Carr Tennessee Return Specialist
15. Keiwan Ratliff Indianapolis
16. Deltha O'Neal New England
17. DeMarcus Faggins Houston
18. Ralph Brown Arizona
19. Karl Paymah Denver
20. Corey Ivy Baltimore
21. Fakhir Brown St. Louis
22. Joselio Hanson Philadelphia
23. Leigh Torrence New Orleans
24. Chris Johnson Oakland
25. William James Jacksonville
26. Allen Rossum San Francisco Return Specialist
27. Hank Poteat New York Jets
28. Travis Daniels Cleveland
29. Stanley Wilson Detroit Injured Reserve
30. Jason Craft St. Louis
31. Benny Sapp Minnesota
32. Jamar Fletcher Cincinnati
33. Ahmad Carroll New York Jets
34. Daven Holly Cleveland Injured Reserve
35. Ty Law New York Jets
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Kevin Dockery N.Y. Giants
- Derrick Martin Baltimore Injured Reserve
- Jarrett Bush Green Bay
- Charles Gordon Minnesota
- Cletis Gordon San Diego
SAFETIES
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
1. Oshiomogho Atogwe St. Louis
2. Gerald Sensabaugh Jacksonville
3. Sean Jones Cleveland
4. Yeremiah Bell Miami
5. Jim Leonhard Baltimore Return Specialist
6. Jermaine Phillips Tampa Bay
7. James Sanders New England
8. Renaldo Hill Miami
9. James Butler New York Giants
10. Eugene Wilson Houston
11. Brian Dawkins Philadelphia
12. Mike Brown Chicago
13. Darren Sharper Minnesota
14. Josh Bullocks New Orleans
15. Sean Considine Philadelphia
16. Matt Giordano Indianapolis
17. Vincent Fuller Tennessee
18. Jon McGraw Kansas City
19. Mike Adams Cleveland
20. Lawyer Milloy Atlanta
21. Marlon McCree Denver
22. Nick Ferguson Houston
23. Will Allen Tampa Bay
24. Rashad Baker Oakland
25. Keith Davis Dallas
26. Chris Crocker Cincinnati
27. Pierson Prioleau Jacksonville
28. C.C. Brown Houston Injured Reserve
29. Rodney Harrison New England Injured Reserve
KEY RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Rank Name Current Team Current Status
- Jarrad Page Kansas City
- Atari Bigby Green Bay
- Abram Elam New York Jets Injured Reserve
- Reed Doughty Washington Injured Reserve
- Dawan Landry Baltimore
- George Wilson Buffalo
- John Busing Cincinnati
Quote11. Brian Dawkins Philadelphia
12. Mike Brown Chicago
13. Darren Sharper Minnesota
14. Josh Bullocks New Orleans
15. Sean Considine Philadelphia
Something isn't adding up here...
I would for the Eagles to pick Richardson or Neal as the FB.
Move Klecko back to his reseve DT role where he was decent.
Jabar Gaffney & Jerome McDougle. Ha.
is that list in relation to their awesomeness? surprised that pile lj is that high if so.
Get Montell Owens!!
As far as FBs go...
Leonard Weaver and Munson's boy Montell Owens are very good.
Peppers wants out of Carolina: After spending his entire life in North Carolina, Julius Peppers wants out. The four-time Pro Bowl defensive end has decided he won't sign a long-term deal with the Panthers when he becomes an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 26. Peppers, who grew up in tiny Bailey, N.C., starred in college at North Carolina and was the Panthers' first-round pick in 2002, believes Carolina's defensive system is not for him - even after recording a career-high 14 1/2 sacks this season. Peppers' agent said his client wants to play in a 3-4 defense. The Panthers use a 4-3 alignment. "He certainly feels that he can excel and thrive in a 3-4 defense," the agent, Carl Carey, said. "He is also open to just another system in general that will allow him to maximize his athletic abilities."
I read that too.
But Johnson's scheme would be, you'd think, one of those that would allow him what he's looking for.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 23, 2009, 11:32:02 AM
Peppers wants out of Carolina: After spending his entire life in North Carolina, Julius Peppers wants out. The four-time Pro Bowl defensive end has decided he won't sign a long-term deal with the Panthers when he becomes an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 26. Peppers, who grew up in tiny Bailey, N.C., starred in college at North Carolina and was the Panthers' first-round pick in 2002, believes Carolina's defensive system is not for him - even after recording a career-high 14 1/2 sacks this season. Peppers' agent said his client wants to play in a 3-4 defense. The Panthers use a 4-3 alignment. "He certainly feels that he can excel and thrive in a 3-4 defense," the agent, Carl Carey, said. "He is also open to just another system in general that will allow him to maximize his athletic abilities."
FF, you want to do the honors of inserting the flux capacitor here:
Thanks, but no.
I think Suggs would be a fit too....and might come a little cheaper. JJ likes to drop his DEs into coverage.
All I want (in this order) is
1. Beast of a DE to go opposite Cole - the D only got pressure when blitzing
2. Starting caliber TE (either via FA or draft) to pair with Celek
3. Young RB to compliment Westbrook and eventually replace Westy...
4. A more productive FB (could be Eckel, FA, or rook)
5. No Greg Lewis
true #1 wr is at the top of my list
2. DE
3. OLB
4. dawks replacement
1. a new head coach
#1 new head coach
#2 thru #10 a new true blooded #1 Wr.
#11 A big ass (good) rb.
#12 DE
i forgot this was a free agency thread...i was really talking about the 5 spots id like to see upgraded...i dont care if its demps...a free agent...or this years draft but i dont wanna see dawk starting next year
Not going to hold out for Taylor Mays?
most of not wanting to see dawk start is selfish as i dont wanna see him become willie mays but if it means getting taylor mays then dawk can get run over for 16 staraight games next year for all i care
your an asshat. dawkins is still leagues better than 90% of safeties in the league even in his old age. and im sick of everyone saying he had bad games in NFC championship games. like that matters when the game is a team sport. correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the players had bad games in those losses. dawkins is the starter, demps needs another year before being trusted.
dawkins wasnt even the best safety on his team this year much less better than 90% of the league...he had a bunch of awful games and a bunch of good ones...hes getting worse and getting worse fast and its probably going to be next year when everyone is begging him to give it up...i want him to give it up before he gets to that point...when quintin mikell is better than you its time reevaulate where you stand
Trade Nick Cole and a 5th for Ed Reed. Problem solved.
id like that if i didnt think ed reed was lying about his age and is really like 38....motherfarger looks old
Nothing makes you happy. What if they trade Sean Considine for Sean Taylor's corpse?
but i would want his corpse all to myself
Leaonard from the Ravens? But I am pretty sure he will want starter money and a starter role.
he isnt getting starters money...hes a depth guy...if hes smart he will stay being an ed reed creation...hes a midget who should never start in the nfl
i like him a lot as a punt returner tho
I wouldnt be surprised if Rex Ryan snags him in NY--he knows how to use him on defense
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 23, 2009, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 23, 2009, 01:49:03 PM
i like him a lot as a punt returner tho
Better than #10?
god farging no
Quote from: reese125 on January 23, 2009, 02:01:26 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if Rex Ryan snags him in NY--he knows how to use him on defense
i dont follow the ravens enough to know how rex ryan uses leonard...in fact it doesnt look like he does anything but tell him to stay back and cover shtein while ed reed maniacally runs around wherever the hell he wants and makes plays... but i know a ton of raven fans who say they are glad hes gone hes a pretty weak defensive coordinator and that the defense is run almost entirely by ray ray and reed
Quotebut i know a ton of raven fans who say they are glad hes gone hes a pretty weak defensive coordinator and that the defense is run almost entirely by ray ray and reed
yeah hes horrible
ranked in the top 5 in defense the past 6 years...I could see why they want to run him out of town
hes only been coordinator for four years...raven defense has essentially been ranked the same for about ten years...raven fans who i trust infintely more about really any team but certainly the ravens over you say that ed reed ray ray and ozzie newsome all have much more to do with the defense than rex ryan
even ozzie newsome thought so little of ryan that when searching for the ravens new head coach he hired another teams position coach over their own defensive coordinator even though they thought hed leave if he didnt get the job
you cant convince me otherwise jinxy
The defense doesnt run off of 2 guys..do they help big time..sure...but Ryan has to put every guy into position to succeed against some of the best offenses in the NFL, defend all 4-quarters and reading the opposing teams offensive game plan.
to tell me that a coordinator is not responsible for the constant success of the defense is crackish. next thing you'll tell me Dick LeBeau blows too. stop it.
you know nothing about football in general...yet you know more about the ravens who youve seen play approx. twice in the last five years than their own fans do....got it
shame on me for even engaging you...it will be the last time
haha..trust me I tried to ignore you as well but when you spew that duty calls
Mikell had a pro bowl year, I didn't say Dawkins did, but they might be the best 1-2 combo in the league. Are you that comfortable with Demps at FS then for next year, if you are then your love for the thug has to stop. You hate everything thats not "HARD" and that's retarded. If image is what you want to base a team around then keep rooting for the taterskins ass
you couldnt pick demps out of a lineup with the backstreet boys but you know hes a thug and hard?
oh please he has an attitude and plays with attitude therefore you thinks he's a thug and look, he's even your avatar! hardcore yo! please...dawkins has more dogg in him than anyone on the team and he doesn't need to act tough cause he plays tougher than most guys in the NFL. He's a a leader of the team, why anyone is ready to throw the towel in on him in beyond me. Convince me otherwise, they guy still had a pretty solid year and is still better than Demps or anyone you bring in save maybe 5 other safeties in the league
This argument is making less and less sense with each post.
your white, stay out of it
My white what?
just be glad youre not indian
I'm an 1/8th Cherokee.
clearly your least desireable 8th
I hope to god no one makes a movie about that eighth. Who would want to see that?
Quote from: rjs246 on January 23, 2009, 06:32:00 PM
My white what?
Blast the siren for the grammar cops. Dick.
How is Demps a thug?
For the last time: he's black.
You mean, outside of that completely ridiculous payback shot he threw at Warner? Little punk better get his shtein together, that cost the Birds points.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 23, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
As far as FBs go...
Leonard Weaver and Munson's boy Montell Owens are very good.
I wasn't sure if he was a FB or a RB on their roster, I know he was a tailback at Maine.
All I know is he's a beast on special teams and graduated from my high school. If he can play FB well, even better. I'll jizz for 7 days straight if they got him.
He's RFA though.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on January 23, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
You mean, outside of that completely ridiculous payback shot he threw at Warner? Little punk better get his shtein together, that cost the Birds points.
It really didn't. It only made it easier for the Cardinals to get the same exact points they were going to get without it.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 23, 2009, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on January 23, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
You mean, outside of that completely ridiculous payback shot he threw at Warner? Little punk better get his shtein together, that cost the Birds points.
It really didn't. It only made it easier for the Cardinals to get the same exact points they were going to get without it.
not that demps wasnt a complete farging idiot but the 3rd and 15 screen pass had much more to do with scoring pts than the demps penalty
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 23, 2009, 12:42:45 PM
id like that if i didnt think ed reed was lying about his age and is really like 38....motherfarger looks old
Hahaaa!!! I saw him up at the podium a couple weeks ago and thought the same thing. He looks old as shtein.
I'm not sure if he looks old, or if he's just really ugly.
I don't care how old he is, he's one of the best defensive players ever, period. Up there with Reggie White and Dick Butkis.
I don't see how the Ravens will be able to afford Reed, Lewis and Suggs. Out of the latter two I think one of 'em gots ta' go.
reed is not a free agent...i think hes under contract for at least another three years
details, details...
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
reed is not a free agent...i think hes under contract for at least another three years
I don't think he was saying Reed is a FA. Ray-Ray & Suggs are, though, hence the "can't afford all three" thing.
if he knew reed wasnt a free agent then the comment makes even less sense
Quote from: Rome on January 25, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2009, 04:26:21 PM
reed is not a free agent...i think hes under contract for at least another three years
I don't think he was saying Reed is a FA. Ray-Ray & Suggs are, though, hence the "can't afford all three" thing.
Exactly, they signed Reed to a fat ass contract, and can't afford to sign both of the latter two, least thats the way I see it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2009, 04:56:10 PM
if he knew reed wasnt a free agent then the comment makes even less sense
Ha! Listen to you talking about someone making sense. You post some of the most senseless crap ever, but it's entertaining crap none the less.
they signed reed to a contract three years ago...the cap has gone up a ton since then...his contract is actually pretty friendly now and almost outdated...in other words it has no bearing whatsoever on whether they resign those guys...at least no more so than joe flaccos or any other starter that is gonna be looking for a new deal in the next three years
Doesn't the cap go up like 30 mil next season or something ridiculous?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2009, 09:11:39 AM
they signed reed to a contract three years ago...the cap has gone up a ton since then...his contract is actually pretty friendly now and almost outdated...in other words it has no bearing whatsoever on whether they resign those guys...at least no more so than joe flaccos or any other starter that is gonna be looking for a new deal in the next three years
They signed him to a six year extension in '04' for 40 mil with a 15 mil signing bonus. I think he made 3.5 last year, and the contract is probably end loaded, but yeah, even a 5 mil salary is cap friendly and outdated, yes?
Quote from: rjs246 on January 26, 2009, 09:17:46 AM
Doesn't the cap go up like 30 mil next season or something ridiculous?
Uncapped.
gcobb thinks the Eagles will target Gross if he isn't tagged
a team over 40 million under the cap with two dinosaurs at OT might go after the a tackle who is arguably the number one FA on the market...how does gcobb come up with this stuff?
it would be runyan all over again...i just wish gross was the same age now as runyan was when they signed him...gross is 29 and runyan i believe was only 26 (maybe 27?) when they signed him
Gross will be tagged. And GCobb is a hack.
Anquan Boldin.
Clayton was on Mike & Mike this morning speculating about what is going to happen with Boldin and he mentioned the Eagles and Giants as possible destinations for him. I've read about the Giants interest previously as well.
So, the Eagles are armed with two 1's and they need to get something done to swing a deal with ARZ. Clayton said that with Fitz, Breaston and Doucet they cannot afford to pay Boldin market value. And that he is going to be an offseason thorn in the Cards side.
There is no reason he should not be wearing green next year.
You just keep holding your breath and let me know how it works out.
In all likelihood, not good.
40some mil, two number ones and in need of another offensive weapon?
Say hello to more project draft picks and role player signings!
Whats Booker and Schobel up to these days
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 03, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
Say hello to more project draft picks and role player signings!
Mike Gibson says hi!
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/01/26/sports/doc497d3fdc988dc637643041.txt
Look test? FAIL.
(http://www.napavalleyregister.com/content/articles/2009/01/26/sports/doc497d3fdc988dc637643041.jpg)
MJG doesn't agree...
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20090204_Eagles_-_Eagles_claim_Gordon_off_waivers_from_Tennessee.html)
QuoteEagles claim Gordon off waivers from Tennessee
Philadelphia Daily News
The Eagles added a competitor for a spot in the defensive line rotation yesterday when they claimed veteran defensive tackle Amon Gordon, 27, off waivers from Tennessee. Gordon, 6-2, 305, also has played for the Ravens, Broncos and Browns since Cleveland drafted him in 2004's fifth round.
Also competing for roster spots will be a pair of Canadian Football League veterans, linebacker Charleston Hughes, from the Calgary Stampeders, and safety Byron Parker, from the Toronto Argonauts. *
- Les Bowen
I can almost bet the Giants will get Boldin, the Eagles will do nothing to acquire a WR. Here we go again...
Quote from: mussa on February 04, 2009, 08:39:35 AM
I can almost bet the Giants will get Boldin, the Eagles will do nothing to acquire a WR. Here we go again...
Assuming the Giants go for Boldin, it would only be because they do not want Burress back or that he is in jail.
If he is not in jail and they do not want him back, the Eagles better get Burress. Just keep him away from Reid's kids.
Actually for the Eagles it might be a sweeter deal in their eyes since they wouldnt have to give up a precious draft pick or two.
Tony Gonzalez still wants out of KC.
With Peterson being outta there and Pioli, and guy who values draft picks, maybe he could be had for a reasonable cost.
I wouldn't be opposed to getting him for a 4th rounder, pairing him with Celek and also drafting a guy to be the 3rd and learn for a year or two until Gonzalez is done.
I would not mind even giving up a third or a second. Gonzo and Celek is a great TE situation to have. And you just know they are going to blow those picks anyway.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 04, 2009, 11:06:45 AM
Tony Gonzalez still wants out of KC.
With Peterson being outta there and Pioli, and guy who values draft picks, maybe he could be had for a reasonable cost.
I wouldn't be opposed to getting him for a 4th rounder, pairing him with Celek and also drafting a guy to be the 3rd and learn for a year or two until Gonzalez is done.
It might cost more than that Phreak. Green Bay had a 3rd rder dangling out there and they said no. The fact that you can split Tony out wide demands a higher value
not to many TE's you can do that with
Yeah, but Carl Peterson's demands were unrealistic. With Pioli being there, he may not be as crazy in his demands with him.
If I were to bet one way or the other I'd say Boldin will be back in AZ. He is still under contract until 2011 so they don't have to do anything, and if they can placate him (and rosenhaus) enough to wait until a possibly uncapped 2010, he should make out even better.
Even if they wanted to do something now and are tight on cap space if they bring back some of their bigger name FAs, it's usually not a problem to restructure some contracts to free up room, and Fitz said he'd be open to doing that for Boldin.
get TJ? (http://950espn.com/Audio/tabid/183/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3045/Default.aspx)
yea i want him
Obviously I'd take him, but Boldin and Bryant are guys I'd rather have than TJ. Both are younger and fit the WCO much better.
he luuuuuuuuuuuu andy reid call playin...
Instant upgrade. I'd rather have Boldin though.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 04, 2009, 05:58:27 PM
get TJ? (http://950espn.com/Audio/tabid/183/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3045/Default.aspx)
BONER!
"I was giving Andy Reid an interview when we played him..."
He couldnt be any clearer in that interview he would come here in a heartbeat...but dude is going to be 32 in September. Though is the top free agent WR, he will be asking way more than the Eagles would even offer him
Get LJ
i just want to have a duce like chant at games again
defense!
(housh/boldin/gonzo sure would help a hell of a lot too)
fwiw TJ's agent is the same as Juqua's (Kennard McGuire)
Detroit dumps cornerback Leigh Bodden to avoid paying a $8.6M bonus. The Eagles should jump all over that, even if it means being a nickel for a year if Dawk comes back, then maybe moving Sheldon to safety.
they already have one unhappy corner that wants to start why the farg would they get another
yeah you have lito why would ever get/need bodden
i also dont really understand the obsession of moving sheldon to safety...hes an excellent corner better than bodden and why is it a given hed even be good at safety
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
yeah you have lito why would ever get/need bodden
i also dont really understand the obsession of moving sheldon to safety...hes an excellent corner better than bodden and why is it a given hed even be good at safety
When IGY gets a hit, it's a home run.
IGY is the Adam Dunn of :CF.
it's not a given that he'd be good, but it might be worth a try if the Eagles are deep at corner. I guarantee he'd be better than Considine and probably Demps too
that's probably not good enough for you
I'd feel good about sheldon in run support. he can hit, that's for sure.
He knows how to lay into someone with his shoulder while his arms are pinned to his sides, that's for sure.
It's an Eagles trademark.
if you're keeping mcnabb, you gotta make a run in the next 1-2 years....so get housh, gonzo, & larry johnson.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 05, 2009, 07:55:37 AM
it's not a given that he'd be good, but it might be worth a try if the Eagles are deep at corner. I guarantee he'd be better than Considine and probably Demps too
that's probably not good enough for you
I'd feel good about sheldon in run support. he can hit, that's for sure.
its not so much that i think he wouldnt be a good safety...i really dont know how hed do...but i KNOW hes a good corner...and i know cornerback is a much more important and difficult position to play than safety...i also think its almost impossible to be to deep at cornerback in the nfl
theres always this talk about Sheldon moving to safety.
No dis to the posters here, but was this ever seriously discussed by anyone other than wishful thinkers on message boards?
If it were to happen I would definitely support it. I think Sheldon is smart and very good at his positioning on the field, but his catch up speed and his ability to jump the ball is very suspect. We have all seen him get burnt way too many times to the taller, faster receivers...that said get Nnamdi Asomugha quick
Let's not all get so excited about TJ coming here. He said this on a Chicago station:
As for whether the Bears are in the running, Houshmandzadeh replied: "I don't know. You know what's funny, man? Y'all are probably going to laugh at me when I tell you this: I kind of like Rex Grossman."
Wow - a player that knows how to market himself and get top dollar as a free agent... Weird.
Quote from: FastFreddie on February 05, 2009, 07:55:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
yeah you have lito why would ever get/need bodden
i also dont really understand the obsession of moving sheldon to safety...hes an excellent corner better than bodden and why is it a given hed even be good at safety
When IGY gets a hit, it's a home run.
IGY is the Adam Dunn of :CF.
Wow - that's A LOT of strikeouts. Not quite record setting Ryan Howard style, but still a shtein-ton
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
yeah you have lito why would ever get/need bodden
i also dont really understand the obsession of moving sheldon to safety...hes an excellent corner better than bodden and why is it a given hed even be good at safety
Lito's gone, don't you think?
Not an obsession to move Brown, it's one possible solution to having a good backfield if a CB is easier to get than a safety. The idea is to try and get 3 strong corners for all the nickel and dime situations. Would have been nice against the Cardinals having Sheldon at FS with 2 good corners behind him. BTW, Jim Johnson said Sheldon could play well at safety, and that was last year so it wasn't just the cancer talking.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 05, 2009, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 05, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
yeah you have lito why would ever get/need bodden
i also dont really understand the obsession of moving sheldon to safety...hes an excellent corner better than bodden and why is it a given hed even be good at safety
Lito's gone, don't you think?
Not an obsession to move Brown, it's one possible solution to having a good backfield if a CB is easier to get than a safety. The idea is to try and get 3 strong corners for all the nickel and dime situations. Would have been nice against the Cardinals having Sheldon at FS with 2 good corners behind him. BTW, Jim Johnson said Sheldon could play well at safety, and that was last year so it wasn't just the cancer talking.
i agree litos gone but why would you get rid of him if you feel you need a cb....just pay lito and have him be that corner
Step 1. Package up Lito, Reid and McNabb.
Step 2. Launch the package into the sun.
Step 3. ??
Step 4. Profit.
shouldnt this thread be next to the franchise tag thread
I was thinking more along the lines of the Bob Evans sausage link thread..but thats just me
Quote from: rjs246 on February 05, 2009, 03:26:04 PM
Step 1. Package up Lito, Reid and McNabb.
Step 2. Launch the package into the sun.
:-D
Lito was worth what a 3rd or 4rth round pick before the season? How much now? Another case of the Eagles out thinking themselves.
hey...he made it through the season injury free and thats what counts
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090207_Eagles_-_Surgery_to_shelve_Eagles__Runyan_for_4_to_6_months.html
Big John has microfracture surgery on knee, out 4-6 months. He hasn't heard anything from the Eagles yet.
Does this hurt his chances of returning, or will the Eagles now get to offer a low ball contract for the gimp?
Microfracture surgery doesn't equal 4-6 months especially for a 325 pound dude.
He's done as an Eagle.
Hurray for Herremans.
You might say the NFCCG was Runyan's last Hurray as an Eagle.
No. You mightn't.
If Andrews wasn't such a weakminded simpleton I wouldn't be concerned about Runyan leaving. Fact is, though, they can't count on Andrews for anything much less his moving to right tackle and securing the position for the next 5-7 seasons.
Somebody hurry up and call him bitchmade or milquetoast and then we can really get this ball rollin'...
If you called him milquetoast, he'd only try to eat it.
Quote from: Rome on February 07, 2009, 08:33:13 AM
You might say the NFCCG was Runyan's last Hurray as an Eagle.
Which NFCCG?
now all they have to do is get rid of Thomas and J. Jackson and they can really start to work on their run game
Playing in today's Pro Bowl:
Anquan Boldin
Jordan Gross
Tony Gonzalez
Terrell Suggs
Julius Peppers
Shane Lechler
Albert Haynesworth
Ray Lewis
Owen Daniels
Sign all of them!
Microfracture is only serious for NBA players for some reason. Runyan will be playing in 2009.
and I hope here.
From here. (http://www.steadman-hawkins.com/knee_microfracture/recov.asp)
QuotePatients must not resume sports that involve pivoting, cutting, and jumping for 4 to 6 months after a microfracture procedure. Full activity may be resumed once the physician has examined the knee and given approval for the patient to return to sports activity.
He will def be ready to play come Sept. I honestly think the Eagles should sign and Tra Thomas if they are serious about making a run in 09. Use the first round picks to either trade for some stars or draft skill position players (TE mostly). They can still use the other 8 picks they have to bolster up the OLINE.
I don't pretend to know what it would take, I assume a no. 1 to start with, but unless they are willing to part with some picks to trade for Boldin, I'll be dissapointed.
i love how its just a matter of fact that the cardinals are gonna trade boldin...they have never once given any indiciation that they want to or would deal him
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 08, 2009, 06:45:15 PM
i love how its just a matter of fact that the cardinals are gonna trade boldin...they have never once given any indiciation that they want to or would deal him
Well, you're right, they haven't. Still, Bolding wants his contract redone, and if it isn't, he could end up being a major distraction. Arizona is something like 40 mil under the cap, they have plenty of cash to restructure his contract. Boldin is due to make 2.75 this year. He has basically called Bidwill and the Cardinals front office liars.
I'm not saying it's right, he signed the deal, imo, he should live up to it. But it looks right now if he doesn't get traded we could see more incidences like the one in the Championship game with him on the sidelines bitching. The Cardinals gave Fitzgerald a 4 year 40 million dollar deal. They haven't said they would trade Boldin, but comments like Mike Bidwill saying they've tried to work with him to restructure and extend his deal, and still haven't done it in two years, it makes you think he might get traded.
a hunch is telling me the Birds are going to try and get Holt
I want Runyan back too because I think he's the only lineman who's worth a damn but I was just pointing out to Cole that the surgery itself wasn't minor.
Add to the fact that Runyan's a giant and he's in his thirties and it's not a given he'll be back.
I know it isn't minor, but I'll give Runyan the benefit of the doubt. He's as tough as nails and has that starting streak going. I won't give him a 3 year deal and maybe not even a 2 year deal, but I'd be absolutely fine giving him another year assuming the surgery is a success.
Plus, I can't see the Eagles moving Andrews out to tackle. You can't count on him being there with his mental instability... especially at tackle and he's said he loves playing guard. If Runyan leaves then it probably comes down to them drafting a RT and starting them as a rookie. Not sure I see that happening.
Move Herremans to RT and let the fat boys fights for the LG spot.
that surgery only means more good things for his run blocking skills from last year.
Freddie Mitchell's triumphant return.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 08, 2009, 09:11:09 PM
Move Herremans to RT and let the fat boys fights for the LG spot.
Why everyone else doesn't see this I don't understand. Stupid blind people.
If they move Herremans to RT then they'll draft a guard early. But I don't think they'll move Herremans at RT. Too much of a risk. He's only played there in limited roles. They won't go an entire season with him starting at tackle. The Eagles are obsessed with offensive line stability.
The offensive line is farging done. Tra and Runyan both played awful. Andrews might either kill himself or OD on Skittles. If there isn't some shaking up along the line next year, they might as well send Kolb out to get killed and trade McNabb for whatever they can get.
Quote from: King Cole on February 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
If they move Herremans to RT then they'll draft a guard early. But I don't think they'll move Herremans at RT. Too much of a risk. He's only played there in limited roles. They won't go an entire season with him starting at tackle. The Eagles are obsessed with offensive line stability.
hes never played right tackle and moving him there would have no impact on whether they drafted a guard early
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2009, 06:12:54 AM
Quote from: King Cole on February 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
If they move Herremans to RT then they'll draft a guard early. But I don't think they'll move Herremans at RT. Too much of a risk. He's only played there in limited roles. They won't go an entire season with him starting at tackle. The Eagles are obsessed with offensive line stability.
hes never played right tackle and moving him there would have no impact on whether they drafted a guard early
exactly.
I just dont see the benefit of having Tre or Runyan out there anymore. Sure they can pass block (and Im well aware the Eagles pass more than any other team), but if this year proved anything its that they cant run block anymore.
I think people get too enamored with the names and are afraid to let go, but face facts--these guys are not too excited about running and hitting guys down the line of scrimmage anymore..and it showed in a horrible way...and on top of that I think J. Jackson is a below average center as well. He gets pushed around worse than a practice squad player and barely ever pushes his guy forward. the eagles are due for an overhaul
my monday positives coming up shortly
The problem is that this Oline had one of the best seasons ever in terms of pass blocking. The Eagles pass the most. Reid will judge everything on that and not whether they need to improve to help the running game out.
ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.
Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders (Nos. 21, 28). New York drafts 29th overall.
Let the fun begin...and not that I believe the Eagles will do this for reasons that we all know to be true...but I think Clayton is right up there as a viable source than Chris Mortenson
Just like last off season and all the Larry Fitz rumors.
Tune in next off season as the Breaston rumors heat up!
Well the Eagles are known for going after big name WRs. TO, Walker, Moss, Fitzgerald. They signed Curtis the best FA on the market.
The problem with them is dealing their draft picks. Now that they have two 1st rounders, maybe they actually will deal one for a change.
By the way, how is there a "frontrunner" when you can't even make trades yet?
you should PG that post back down to "nm"
::)
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
Well the Eagles are known for going after big name WRs. TO, Walker, Moss, Fitzgerald. They signed Curtis the best FA on the market.
The problem with them is dealing their draft picks. Now that they have two 1st rounders, maybe they actually will deal one for a change.
By the way, how is there a "frontrunner" when you can't even make trades yet?
The only big time WR the Eagles have ever landed is TO and he had to beg his way onto the team. All those other names are supposed attempts the Eagles made and we will never know if they really did offer what they claimed or really tried.
C'mon now, Curtis is totally a big time WR. He grows a Jesus beard and everything!
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
Well the Eagles are known for going after big name WRs. TO, Walker, Moss, Fitzgerald. They signed Curtis the best FA on the market.
The problem with them is dealing their draft picks. Now that they have two 1st rounders, maybe they actually will deal one for a change.
By the way, how is there a "frontrunner" when you can't even make trades yet?
Is this sarcasm? I can't even tell anymore...
no he was dead serious about the eagles getting the best FA on the market in Curtis..I mean thank god we got him
cole getting savaged and deservedly so
Go ahead and search youtube for Kevin Curtis videos. We'll have a contest to see who stabs their eardrums first.
Curtis isn't an all pro, but he was the biggest FA WR on the market when the Eagles got him at the time. Despite popular incorrect opinions, the Eagles do value the WR position. It is correct that they do not value LB that much, but WR they do.
I'm not saying the Eagles will get Boldin, but I'm pretty sure they'll go after him just like they go after a lot of the big name WRs. I do think they've gotten serious in the past, but talks usually break down once they get into 1st round pick territory. All I was saying was they have an extra one this time, so maybe that changes things.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagentsWR.html
What a garbage year for WR's.
Robocop would have been better
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 03:38:37 PM
Despite popular incorrect opinions, the Eagles do value the WR position.
did you hear this from someone and take their word for it or do you really believe it?
in ten years of andy reid name the very good (not even great) wr's the eagles have had...then name the number one picks spent on wr's...then name the big time wr's they have acquired via free agency or trade...then name how many number one wr's they have had in ten years...thats a decade...thats not a small window...thats ten friggin years
all you have to do is look at the evidence....then listen to how many times andy has talked about speading the ball around then listen to spads and eskin...the two mouthpieces for the front office...talk about how wr's arent important
The odds Boldin comes here slim to none, I do not believe this team would be willing to part with two high picks to get him. I could be wrong but history shows otherwise.
King Cole is eating retard sammiches.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 11, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 03:38:37 PM
Despite popular incorrect opinions, the Eagles do value the WR position.
did you hear this from someone and take their word for it or do you really believe it?
in ten years of andy reid name the very good (not even great) wr's the eagles have had...then name the number one picks spent on wr's...then name the big time wr's they have acquired via free agency or trade...then name how many number one wr's they have had in ten years...thats a decade...thats not a small window...thats ten friggin years
all you have to do is look at the evidence....then listen to how many times andy has talked about speading the ball around then listen to spads and eskin...the two mouthpieces for the front office...talk about how wr's arent important
I see your point, but I think we have a difference of opinion on what "valued" means. You obviously think that if they valued it, they would go out and throw boat loads of cash at big name guys, and throw high draft picks at guys out there for trades. I don't agree. I think just because they value draft picks a lot doesn't mean they don't value WRs.
I would love for the Eagles to go above and beyond for a change and overpay, but just because they don't overpay doesn't mean the position isn't valued. All it means is they think they can find a more efficient way of filling the need.
If you think about it, what times have the Eagles passed on a WR that has come to make them look stupid? Not that many. I'm talking about from a value standpoint, not a talent evaluation.
so in the last ten years where is your evidence that they value the position
The first 5 years of Andy's tenure I think they undervalued it. I think in the last 5 years though they have come around to value it a lot more.
Reggie Brown taken with a high 2nd rounder
Jackson taken with a 2nd rounder
Signed Curtis the #1 FA receiver on the market
Traded for TO
Went hard after Moss, but Moss chose the Pats and probably used the Eagles as leverage
Went hard after Fitzgerald, but Arizona clearly wasn't going to trade him and you see why
I consider that being valued. They sure as hell have spent more resources over the last 5 years at WR than addressing offensive line which Reid clames is his most valued position. Also more than the other positions like RB, LB, which everyone says they don't value.
Now you can say that if they valued WR, they'd spend first rounders on picks rather than second rounders. But if you look at the draft classes, there weren't any real studs that they passed on. I think in their mind they took the best guys on their board.
Drafted a potential #2 receiver
Drafted a slot receiver after making sure they got their lineman
Signed a slot receiver
Had a star receiver forced upon them by an arbiter
Said they went after big name targets with no proof to back up that claim
Ok, well you disagree with the talent level of these guys, and I do too. But the Eagles did spend quality resources getting these guys. That tells me the position is valued.
The Eagles could have taken Otah last year with their draft pick. Instead they traded it to make sure they had an extra pick to take Jackson with. That is one example of them passing on a regarded "stud" offensive tackle to take a WR.
It isn't like the Eagles have been picking in the top of the rounds. They pick at the bottom of the rounds where you can get receivers in the mid-second as good as late first.
I sorta get what your saying but that just makes it worse because it means they try but they fail and that they are terrible evaluators of talent at WR.
As for Jackson and making sure they had a extra 2nd round pick...that move in fact shows how little they value that position. Jackson is a first round talent. They did not select him there, risked him being picked by someone else, and then in the 2nd round passed on him again to rather select a backup DT, and then with their 2nd second round pick selected him. That is not valuing the position. That is being damn lucky that other teams who probably did not need WR as much passed on him or some teams selected other prospects over him.
I think all they value is their philosophy. If they really valued the WR position they would have gone above and beyond by now. They value the CB position. They went all secondary in the 2002 draft and then this past off-season signed Samuel. They think they can always get by with the WRs they have and if somehow can swindle another team into giving them their WR on their terms they will do it otherwise forget about.
Even the year they traded for Stallworth...what was what? In August? A few weeks before the season started? Up to that point they were perfectly happy to go into the season with Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett as the starters for a team which just went to the Superbowl 2 seasons before and was coming off the high production of TO.
I heard the Eagles might or might not be interested in either drafting a WR or getting one via FA.
Can anyone confirm this?
Thx.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 11, 2009, 05:28:14 PM
I sorta get what your saying but that just makes it worse because it means they try but they fail and that they are terrible evaluators of talent at WR.
As for Jackson and making sure they had a extra 2nd round pick...that move in fact shows how little they value that position. Jackson is a first round talent. They did not select him there, risked him being picked by someone else, and then in the 2nd round passed on him again to rather select a backup DT, and then with their 2nd second round pick selected him. That is not valuing the position. That is being damn lucky that other teams who probably did not need WR as much passed on him or some teams selected other prospects over him.
I think all they value is their philosophy. If they really valued the WR position they would have gone above and beyond by now. They value the CB position. They went all secondary in the 2002 draft and then this past off-season signed Samuel. They think they can always get by with the WRs they have and if somehow can swindle another team into giving them their WR on their terms they will do it otherwise forget about.
Even the year they traded for Stallworth...what was what? In August? A few weeks before the season started? Up to that point they were perfectly happy to go into the season with Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett as the starters for a team which just went to the Superbowl 2 seasons before and was coming off the high production of TO.
I think with Jackson they knew that he'd probably be there by the time they picked in the 2nd round, so they rolled the dice and it worked out.
But I agree with the talent evaluation. I think they generally thought Reggie Brown was way better than he was, and Baskett was way better than he was. Then last season when they went after Moss and Fitzgerald, it was obvious they finally saw the light. I think they are generally poor talent evaluators and that has hurt them more than anything else.
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 05:03:40 PM
The first 5 years of Andy's tenure I think they undervalued it. I think in the last 5 years though they have come around to value it a lot more.
Reggie Brown taken with a high 2nd rounder
Jackson taken with a 2nd rounder
Signed Curtis the #1 FA receiver on the market
Traded for TO
Went hard after Moss, but Moss chose the Pats and probably used the Eagles as leverage
Went hard after Fitzgerald, but Arizona clearly wasn't going to trade him and you see why
I consider that being valued. They sure as hell have spent more resources over the last 5 years at WR than addressing offensive line which Reid clames is his most valued position. Also more than the other positions like RB, LB, which everyone says they don't value.
Now you can say that if they valued WR, they'd spend first rounders on picks rather than second rounders. But if you look at the draft classes, there weren't any real studs that they passed on. I think in their mind they took the best guys on their board.
so youre cherry picking the years you want to include and eliminating half of andys tenure and you STILL cant come up with any real proof that they put a high value on the position
curtis is at best a #2 wr and more like a #3 slot guy...the fact that he was competing with drew bennent to be the best wr in his FA class is laughable and doesnt show the eagles taking the position seriously
second round picks dont show proof either...otherwise every team in the league values all positions extremely high
i give them TO that was a power move at the position...but in ten years he is the ONLY evidence that they put a high value on the wr position and there basically had to be a mutiny by the media and fanbase to force andy into doing that
It does not matter where they thought Jackson would be available. Its the fact that they skipped on him in the first, were lucky that he was still there in the 2nd but still skipped him to draft a backup DT, and then finally picked him with the 2nd 2nd round pick. That move alone shows no regard for the WR position. They would rather pile up high motor guys who will serve as nothing but rotation.
the Eagles did not intentionally drafted him for the WR position anyway--to strengthen your point even more. They were aiming for punt returner the whole way, as was every other squad that thought his 5'9 frame could hold up and passed on him.
The Birds hit a HR and were lucky
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 11, 2009, 08:20:23 PM
so youre cherry picking the years you want to include and eliminating half of andys tenure and you STILL cant come up with any real proof that they put a high value on the position
curtis is at best a #2 wr and more like a #3 slot guy...the fact that he was competing with drew bennent to be the best wr in his FA class is laughable and doesnt show the eagles taking the position seriously
second round picks dont show proof either...otherwise every team in the league values all positions extremely high
i give them TO that was a power move at the position...but in ten years he is the ONLY evidence that they put a high value on the wr position and there basically had to be a mutiny by the media and fanbase to force andy into doing that
I'm picking the 5 most recent years, which is relevant. You are making it seem like I'm picking 5 random years across the entire tenure.
I agree Curtis is a #2 at best, but the fact is to the Eagles he was a very good WR. The Eagles talent evaluation of Curtis was the problem. If they didn't value the position like you said, then they would have just made the Bethel Johnson signing and stuck with that.
But, if you do truly think that these moves show they don't value the position, then what could they have done that would show otherwise with the options that were available?
acquire more than one #1 wr in ten years
there isnt even one wr they have gotten in the draft FA or trade that they even planned on or thought would be a #1
the lack of talent evaluation refers to guys who they thought would be 2's or 3's and were worse than that...its not like they were the lions who intended to get #1's and missed...the eagles missed on even getting good wr's...so your talent evaluation argument only flys if they were making big time moves for #1 guys and they didnt pan out
The fact is they refuse to sign or draft a true #1 receiver That's igy's point.
DeSean is a nice player, but come on... he'll never be a true #1 at his size. They got Curtis who's a #2, and the year before that they got Stallworth who's also a good #2.
Avant, Baskett, et al are nothing more than filler receivers; #3's at best.
Regardless, take Reid's own words over the years for proof they don't want a #1. He honestly believes the best way to win a Super Bowl is to get a lot of receivers and then rotate them. 10 years later he's yet to prove his theory, but goddamn it, he's STILL TRYING!
Who was available either a) in free agency that they passed on or b) in the draft that they passed on who was this great #1 WR? It is hard to get #1 WRs in this league. Teams don't just give them up and they don't often hit free agency. You use the Lions as an example, but the Lions are drafting in the top 10 every year. So how do they compare with the Eagles who are usually picking toward the bottom of the rounds?
As for Jackson, well you can say he'll never be a true #1, but he's the best WR in the entire draft class, so not sure what your issue with Jackson is. The only one that rivals him right now is Eddie Royal.
You want an elite WR, and I want an elite WR. They aren't easy to get though. If Boldin gets dealt to the Giants this offseason and the Eagles stand pat, then I will be furious. But the rare time good players are actually available, they are usually asking for ridiculous prices. The Lions with Roy Williams, the Bengals with Chad Johnson, etc.
I understand where you are coming from, but there aren't really any other moves the Eagles could have made. You say get a #1 WR, but where? They don't grow on trees.
lollol there it is...the who was available talking point when all else fails...suprised it took this long
yea in ten years no one was available...ok spads
Ok, then give me some names if it is such a bad argument. I'll give you a name. Randy Moss. He was the one guy the Eagles could've had at a great price and passed on. But so did 30 other NFL teams. He was coming off a bad year with hamstring problems and the attitude issues were still lingering. Other than that, who did you want? You laugh at the argument, but if it is so bad then give me names of these great WRs they passed on. Roy Williams for a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick? Please. Chad Johnson for two 1st round picks? Torry Holt for a 1st round pick? Eric Moulds? Michael Clayton?
Who could they have had in the drafts that was so great that they passed on? Give me some names.
I've stated that I don't like the way the Eagles run things the majority of the time, but if you actually look at who was available and what the Eagles do, the criticisms for WRs is unwarranted.
you win
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 09:46:29 PM
Ok, then give me some names if it is such a bad argument. I'll give you a name. Randy Moss. He was the one guy the Eagles could've had at a great price and passed on. But so did 30 other NFL teams. He was coming off a bad year with hamstring problems and the attitude issues were still lingering. Other than that, who did you want? You laugh at the argument, but if it is so bad then give me names of these great WRs they passed on. Roy Williams for a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick? Please. Chad Johnson for two 1st round picks? Torry Holt for a 1st round pick? Eric Moulds? Michael Clayton?
Who could they have had in the drafts that was so great that they passed on? Give me some names.
I've stated that I don't like the way the Eagles run things the majority of the time, but if you actually look at who was available and what the Eagles do, the criticisms for WRs is unwarranted.
Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, and Chris Chambers were on the board when Reid&Co chose Freddie Mitchell, Steve Smith iddn't go until the third round that year. They passed on Chris Chambers a second time when he was available via trade.
Its a combo of them not caring enough for the position and them not being good talent evaluators when they even select WRs in the later rounds.
Dangerous combo for a pass first team.
Reid simply believes you field the best pass blocking OLINE and you can win with Trash, Pinkston, Freddie, Brown, Hank Baskett, Curtis, and who ever else I am forgetting.
Quote from: Displaced on February 11, 2009, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 11, 2009, 09:46:29 PM
Ok, then give me some names if it is such a bad argument. I'll give you a name. Randy Moss. He was the one guy the Eagles could've had at a great price and passed on. But so did 30 other NFL teams. He was coming off a bad year with hamstring problems and the attitude issues were still lingering. Other than that, who did you want? You laugh at the argument, but if it is so bad then give me names of these great WRs they passed on. Roy Williams for a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick? Please. Chad Johnson for two 1st round picks? Torry Holt for a 1st round pick? Eric Moulds? Michael Clayton?
Who could they have had in the drafts that was so great that they passed on? Give me some names.
I've stated that I don't like the way the Eagles run things the majority of the time, but if you actually look at who was available and what the Eagles do, the criticisms for WRs is unwarranted.
Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, and Chris Chambers were on the board when Reid&Co chose Freddie Mitchell, Steve Smith iddn't go until the third round that year. They passed on Chris Chambers a second time when he was available via trade.
Exactly. Horrible talent evaluation, which is what I have been saying all along. They took Freddie Mitchell that year in the first round.
Torry Holt switched to the same agent as Orlando Pace (and Housh and Juqua). Rotoworld thinks the Eagles are an "obvious" fit because of need and because of Spagnuolo. uh....no.
Surely that is the death knell for the Reggie Brown era.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 12, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
Surely that is the death knell for the Reggie Brown era.
if rotoworld says so
I can't believe how far off the radar screen Brown has fallen.
Yeah, the Marvin Harrison comparisons were idiotic, but geez... how do you go from being a solid #2 type receiver to a guy who is behind Greg Lewis on the depth chart?
Quote from: Rome on February 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
how do you go from being a solid #2 type receiver to a guy who is behind Greg Lewis on the depth chart?
You get hurt all the time and drop every pass thrown your way when you're healthy.
Quote from: Rome on February 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
Yeah, the Marvin Harrison comparisons were idiotic
But the Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson comparisons were spot on
Quote from: rjs246 on February 12, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
how do you go from being a solid #2 type receiver to a guy who is behind Greg Lewis on the depth chart?
You get hurt all the time and drop every pass thrown your way when you're healthy.
or youre not well liked in the locker room and talk shtein on your qb...or your desire to play every snap fell right out the window
all of the above
At least he never let a pass bounce off his helmet.
Quote from: reese125 on February 12, 2009, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 12, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on February 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
how do you go from being a solid #2 type receiver to a guy who is behind Greg Lewis on the depth chart?
You get hurt all the time and drop every pass thrown your way when you're healthy.
or youre not well liked in the locker room and talk shtein on your qb...or your desire to play every snap fell right out the window
all of the above
When did this happen? Him and McNabb don't get along? I remember McNabb saying something like Reggie should be starting or something.
He may suck as a WR but he is amazing as a cheerleader on the sidelines.
Quote from: Rome on February 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
how do you go from being a solid #2 type receiver to a guy who is behind Greg Lewis on the depth chart?
the number 1 wr bitches his way out of town
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 11, 2009, 05:28:14 PM
I sorta get what your saying but that just makes it worse because it means they try but they fail and that they are terrible evaluators of talent at WR.
Yes, and not only at wr, but almost every position except lineman.
Quote from: shorebird on February 13, 2009, 12:01:35 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 11, 2009, 05:28:14 PM
I sorta get what your saying but that just makes it worse because it means they try but they fail and that they are terrible evaluators of talent at WR.
Yes, and not only at wr, but almost every position except lineman.
Like QB (they could have had Akili Smith or Duante Culpepper)
Or CB (Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard replaced 2 pro-bowlers and became probowlers)
Or SS (Mike Lewis, Quintin Mikell should have been a pro bowler this year)
Or RB (Westbrook is one of the best 3 in the league)
Or DE (Cole) sure some haven't panned out (mostly because of injury) b ut with Howard, Abiramiri and Clemons I think they have the best 4 man rotation in the league.
DT they haven't been too bad. Bunkley and Patterson are good. Laws isn't looking too bad.
Quote from: stalker on February 13, 2009, 12:19:23 AM
Or DE (Cole) sure some haven't panned out (mostly because of injury) b ut with Howard, Abiramiri and Clemons I think they have the best 4 man rotation in the league.
The reason other teams don't have four man rotations is because the two starters they have can play more than a down or two in a row.
Quote from: Rome on February 13, 2009, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: stalker on February 13, 2009, 12:19:23 AM
Or DE (Cole) sure some haven't panned out (mostly because of injury) b ut with Howard, Abiramiri and Clemons I think they have the best 4 man rotation in the league.
The reason other teams don't have four man rotations is because the two starters they have can play more than a down or two in a row.
Last year the Giants rotated Umenyiora, Tuck, Strahan and Kiwanuka, who of course are Hoydas and needed to be rotated to take oxygen on the sidelines.
not bad for a first post, I must say
yeah who's this queerbait?
Quote from: phattymatty on February 13, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
yeah who's this queerbait?
I missed all the self-loathing and nerd posturing on CF, so I decided sign back up.
welcome home prodigal son
Early release for good behavior?
I think he stabbed the warden
Did he shoot the sheriff?
farging fail, jesus man
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20090213/i/r820259136.jpg?x=400&y=274&q=85&sig=zVn7HoWqnF0TVzCb2jEbMg--)
Brandon Jacobs tagged.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/02/giants-slap-franchise-tag-on-j.html
Damn, he was one of the two I was unreasonably hoping the Eagles would sign, along with Gross.
Edit: didn't remember our special Franchised Tagged thread, and now i got this info all the hell over the place
Quote from: Beermonkey on February 13, 2009, 11:00:22 AM
I missed all the self-loathing and nerd posturing on CF, so I decided sign back up.
Stalker's banned and this fag shows up.
Coincidence?
BTW: Osi didn't play a down in 2008.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 13, 2009, 05:27:10 PM
Edit: didn't remember our special Franchised Tagged thread, and now i got this info all the hell over the place
Ha.
Quote from: Rome on February 13, 2009, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on February 13, 2009, 11:00:22 AM
I missed all the self-loathing and nerd posturing on CF, so I decided sign back up.
Stalker's banned and this fag shows up.
Coincidence?
BTW: Osi didn't play a down in 2008.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I assumed when you saw Strahan mentioned you'd know I meant the 2007 season. There's enough real shtein to be angry about without making crap up so you can appear to fit in better.
Don't make me man hug you next time we meet.
Hugs I don't mind.
Kisses... well...
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 13, 2009, 05:27:10 PM
Brandon Jacobs
Damn, he was one of the two I was unreasonably hoping the Eagles would sign
lol
Who is/was the other?
Favre?
Jordan Gross
If the Panthers tag and trade Peppers and the Eagles can jump in and get Gross, if frees them up to take fewer day 1 O-linemen.
Damn, a pun so terrible and so badly used that it killed the entire Eagles section.
I saw on the ESPN ticker last night that the Bengals GM doesn't expect TJ or Ocho back...and Fred Taylor was released by the Jags.
holy shtein...where did u see Taylor was released?
on every sports ticker in the country yesterday?
They didn't release Taylor. Well, they did, but into the wild so rich men can hunt him for sport.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 17, 2009, 03:07:45 PM
on every sports ticker in the country yesterday?
cmon ig, youre slipping
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 17, 2009, 03:07:45 PM
on every sports ticker in the country yesterday?
next you'll tell me the Falcons put the franchise tag on their punter
Did we sign Warrick Dunn or KGB yet?
we?
HANG ED
mock
Quote from: Munson on February 17, 2009, 02:50:49 PM
Damn, a pun so terrible and so badly used that it killed the entire Eagles section.
I saw on the ESPN ticker last night that the Bengals GM doesn't expect TJ or Ocho back...and Fred Taylor was released by the Jags.
Do they expect Carson Palmer back?
Moved to the right forum!
:D ;D >:( :paranoid :evil :=)
Wrong thread, dummy.
Quote from: Rome on February 17, 2009, 09:01:05 PM
Wrong thread, dummy.
Thanks, Pop.
(http://eteamz.active.com/alt14yearolds/images/FredSanford.jpg)
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090218_Eagles_won_t_put_franchise_tag_on_free_agents.html
* they are not going to use the tags
* taking a wait and see approach on Runyan
* Working on a new deal with Tra
* are confident that a new deal will be reached with McNabb
* likely to re-sign Dawk
* would like to bring back Buck
Great news on (hopefully) keeping Tra and McNabb's deal.
yea I know...Spadaro is a puppet, he doesn't know anything, blah blah blah.....but this isn't the first time I've seen him mention these names, and he usually drops hints...
QuoteI would re-sign Dawkins, Hanson and Tra, if I were confident that Gross wasn't hitting the market. I would make sure Nick Cole is here for a long time. I would take care of Donovan. I would make sure Baskett is tendered.
Then I would see who is out there in free agency and act accordingly. I can't give you a "plan" for free agency, because I do not know who is out there. But the needs are obvious, and I have stated them before. O line, RB, TE, WR, etc.
So, Nick Cole is going to get one of those awesome 12-year-deals that will overpay him wildly if he bombs out and cause a huge argument in a couple years if he does play well. Sweet.
yeah, but he'll get like $400K in each of those years so it'll be OK.....until he comes back crying in year #4...
how fast do the Eagles start negotiations with Albert Haynesworth on Feb 27th?
3 of their last four top picks have been DTs. No chance they sign Haynesworth.
they had Lito Sheppard last year and still signed Asante Samuel...
QuoteOn the eve of the deadline to place the franchise tag on Peppers, a person close to the player said Wednesday that the impending free agent wants to play for the Dallas Cowboys or three other unnamed teams, two of them in the NFC.
Not really sure why I'm posting this in the Eagles forum, though. Peppers has the same odds of becoming as Eagle as Boldin, Suggs, Haynesworth, and the Tooth Fairy.
get the Tooth Fairy!
Im still pissed at that whore
maybe the Tooth Fairy can convert a 4th and 1
Better chance than any of the current fairies
gross re-signed, peppers tagged by carolina.
stranger things have happened in fa.
in '04 the eagles went out and got that cripple jevon. they had just drafted mcdougle, and green (who some thought was the better pass rusher), and still had their usual chronically injured eagle (like buck) in burgess. hugh was even still on the team, 2 years? removed from the pro bowl
but hugh was getting old, burgess was injured a lot and who knows what you have in draftees and blah blah blah.
extremely slim chance we get haynesworth, like mentioned before bc we got 3 young'n's there.
i still say they should go out and make him one of their top priorities
Of course they should but they won't.
ill take haynesworth just to make the linebackers tolerable...none of the current tackles are at a level where they make other people better
NFL Live was saying you'd have to worry about Haynesworth not playing hard after he gets paid, but in an interview he said that he doesn't want his NFL legacy to be he cleet kicked that Cowboy loser his fat face and wants to be a role model to his kids
That's true. And he wants his NFL legacy to be $75 million.
for his kids kids
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on February 19, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
stranger things have happened in fa.
in '04 the eagles went out and got that cripple jevon. they had just drafted mcdougle, and green (who some thought was the better pass rusher), and still had their usual chronically injured eagle (like buck) in burgess. hugh was even still on the team, 2 years? removed from the pro bowl
Fox News just did a story on Jamaal Green. He is a border patrol agent now on the Texas-Mexico border. The Raiders and Colts both tried to sign him while he was in the Border Patrol academy, and he turned them down.
So he's now a Mexican hater?
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090220_Reid__Dawkins__Thomas_probably_get_re-signed.html)
QuoteReid: Dawkins, Thomas probably get re-signed
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
INDIANAPOLIS - Eagles coach Andy Reid today suggested the team will re-sign safety Brian Dawkins and offensive tackle Tra Thomas, two veterans who are eligible to become free agents when the signing period begins next Friday.
"I think that'll all take place within the next few days or week or whatever," said Reid, who is attending the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. "There's communication."
Dawkins, who will turn 36 in October, was selected to play in the Pro Bowl for the seventh time after rebounding from an injury-plagued 2007 season. He has been with the Eagles 13 seasons and may be the team's most popular players.
Thomas, who will turn 35 next season, has been a mainstay at left tackle since the Eagles drafted him on the first round in 1998.
Dawkins and Thomas are among five veteran Eagles eligible for unrestricted free agency. The others are offensive tackle Jon Runyan, running back Correll Buckhalter and tight end L.J. Smith. Runyan is recovering from microfracture surgery on his right knee and is one month into a recovery period expected to take 4-6 months.
Give Dawk 2 years, give Tra 3.
Link (http://csnphilly.com/pages/landing_homepage/?Source-A-Dozen-Teams-Interested-in-Buckh=1&blockID=41120&feedID=717)
QuoteSource: A Dozen Teams Interested in Buckhalter
CSNPhilly.com
It won't be easy for the Eagles to keep running back Correll Buckhalter.
A league source has informed Comcast SportsNet's Derrick Gunn that at least 12 teams have shown interest in Buckhalter, who becomes an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 27.
The Giants, Rams, Titans, Broncos, Texans, Lions, Buccaneers and Jaguars have expressed the most interest. Selected in the fourth round of the 2001 draft, the 30-year-old Buckhalter has spent his entire career with the Eagles – but has started only 16 games.
He wants a chance to be a starter.
Last season, Buckhalter proved that he's more than just a dependable backup for Brian Westbrook. In addition to averaging 4.9 yards per rush, Buckhalter set career highs in receiving with 26 catches for 324 yards and two touchdowns.
The Eagles define a "big play" as a rush of at least 10 yards, a pass of at least 20 yards or a return of at least 30. Westbrook had 21 such plays last season. Buckhalter had 15 – despite receiving 185 fewer touches.
Including the playoffs, the Eagles went 6-1 this season when Buckhalter recorded at least six touches. They went 3-6-1 when he didn't (he missed two games with a sprained knee).
Elsewhere, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, coach Andy Reid suggested that team intends to re-sign safety Brian Dawkins and left tackle Tra Thomas. Both are scheduled to become free agents on Feb. 27.
"I think that'll all take place within the next few days or week or whatever," Reid told the newspaper. "There's communication."
Reid currently is attending the scouting combine in Indianapolis.
Not sure how interested the Eagles were in him but Vernon Carey re-signs with Miami, 6 years $42 million (http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/breaking-news/story/913475.html)
Whew, get that bum off the market. A tackle mediocre in pass protection is the last thing this team needed.
Someone convince Dawkins to farging retire already. Or at the very least announce himself as Brian Owskoo Dawkins.
Eagles re-sign Hanson for 5 years.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=17429
Now there's a guy who really didn't need an extension.
Hanson was their best cornholerback, so shut up.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 20, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
Now there's a guy who really didn't need an extension.
it was part of a bigger package deal
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 20, 2009, 05:30:38 PM
Link (http://csnphilly.com/pages/landing_homepage/?Source-A-Dozen-Teams-Interested-in-Buckh=1&blockID=41120&feedID=717)
QuoteSource: A Dozen Teams Interested in Buckhalter
CSNPhilly.com
It won't be easy for the Eagles to keep running back Correll Buckhalter.
A league source has informed Comcast SportsNet's Derrick Gunn that at least 12 teams have shown interest in Buckhalter, who becomes an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 27.
The Giants, Rams, Titans, Broncos, Texans, Lions, Buccaneers and Jaguars have expressed the most interest. Selected in the fourth round of the 2001 draft, the 30-year-old Buckhalter has spent his entire career with the Eagles – but has started only 16 games.
He wants a chance to be a starter.
Last season, Buckhalter proved that he's more than just a dependable backup for Brian Westbrook. In addition to averaging 4.9 yards per rush, Buckhalter set career highs in receiving with 26 catches for 324 yards and two touchdowns.
The Eagles define a "big play" as a rush of at least 10 yards, a pass of at least 20 yards or a return of at least 30. Westbrook had 21 such plays last season. Buckhalter had 15 – despite receiving 185 fewer touches.
Including the playoffs, the Eagles went 6-1 this season when Buckhalter recorded at least six touches. They went 3-6-1 when he didn't (he missed two games with a sprained knee).
Elsewhere, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, coach Andy Reid suggested that team intends to re-sign safety Brian Dawkins and left tackle Tra Thomas. Both are scheduled to become free agents on Feb. 27.
"I think that'll all take place within the next few days or week or whatever," Reid told the newspaper. "There's communication."
Reid currently is attending the scouting combine in Indianapolis.
Titans - Lendale White & Chris Johnson
Giants - Brandon Jacobs & Ahmad Bradshaw
Rams - Steven Jackson
Broncos - no one
Texans - Steve Slaton
Lions - Kevin Smith
Bucs - Ernest Graham
Jaguars - Maurice Jones--Drew
Not a whole lot of starting opportunities there; but I think its pretty much a foregone conclusion that Buck is going to leave. I really like him because of his blocking and he's turned into a reliable guy to have behind Westbrook. But they simply do not use him very much.
If he leaves to the Raiders and leads the league in rushing, I think I'll stop watching.
Quote from: King Cole on February 20, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Eagles re-sign Hanson for 5 years.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=17429
he now makes more than Sheldon Brown.
I'm getting a Hanson jersey and cod piece.
I like that idea. I'm going to get a number 21 jersey that says "Sackmaster" on the back.
Buckhalter's not going to start anywhere. I love the guy and hope he's back as he has proven he's a warrior. He's going to score a nice bonus and end up somewhere like Houston or St. Louis. Tampa Bay would also be a nice fit for him.
He would be perfect in Houston, I think. Whatever, thanks for learning to block and catch the ball after your knees removed the possibility of being a featured back, Buck. Thanks for almost making a difference in the St. Louis NFCCG. Thanks for smoking a little squeef. Good luck and shtein.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 22, 2009, 05:50:57 PM
He would be perfect in Houston, I think. Whatever, thanks for learning to block and catch the ball after your knees removed the possibility of being a featured back, Buck. Thanks for almost making a difference in the St. Louis NFCCG. Thanks for smoking a little squeef. Good luck and shtein.
A more perfect sendoff than that is impossible.
Well, he could retire as an Eagle. They could give him a nice sendoff at halftime, let him ride out of the stadium on a new Rascal.
Marvin Harrison asking for his release that will save $7 million in Colts cap space
not that he is burning by anybody on his seam routes, but Id take him as another set of solid hands in this offense and hes probably looking to come home to Philly
this team could use a gun toting thug. sign him up!
Quote from: reese125 on February 23, 2009, 09:36:32 AM
Marvin Harrison asking for his release that will save $7 million in Colts cap space
not that he is burning by anybody on his seam routes, but Id take him as another set of solid hands in this offense and hes probably looking to come home to Philly
NO
stop playing fantasy football and trying to get someone every time a player is released
Harrison is done, I'd rather have Jabar Gaffney back
And I don't want him either
Schefter speculating already (http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/harrison-asks-colts-to-release-him/)
QuotePosted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Bill Polian, Indianapolis Colts, Marvin Harrison
After the two sides couldn't agree on a restructured contract, WR Marvin Harrison asked the Colts to release him, a league source said Sunday night.
As much as the team would rather not — and Colts president Bill Polian acknowledged Sunday that it's a tricky situation — Harrison is a luxury that Indianapolis can no longer afford.
Now that Harrison has declined to restructure his contract, the Colts have little choice but to let him and his $13.4 million salary-cap number go. It will mark the end of an illustrious 13-year career in Indianapolis, where Harrison and QB Peyton Manning formed one of the greatest quarterback-receiver tandems in NFL history.
Already the speculation about where Harrison will land is beginning. For starters, Harrison is determined to continue playing. A logical landing spot would be the receiver-needy Philadelphia Eagles, where Harrison would be reunited with his former Syracuse teammate, QB Donovan McNabb, while getting to play in the city where he lives.
If this was 3-4 years ago... let's do this. I'd pass now though... unless he came on the real, REAL cheap, which doesn't look like that'll be the case since he doesn't want to restructure to stay in Indy.
Um, I would take Marvin Harrison's old ass. I'm not a person to jump at every WR that gets released but in lieu of getting some sort of young stud on the open market I would take Harrison in a heartbeat.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 23, 2009, 09:38:54 AM
Quote from: reese125 on February 23, 2009, 09:36:32 AM
Marvin Harrison asking for his release that will save $7 million in Colts cap space
not that he is burning by anybody on his seam routes, but Id take him as another set of solid hands in this offense and hes probably looking to come home to Philly
NO
stop playing fantasy football and trying to get someone every time a player is released
not too sure what the hell youre talking about here-- the only receiver I said the Eagles would pursue is Holt on the cheap
nice try though
and yes for the record I would take Harrison just for the way this offense is spread-- and he probably would be the only guy in this offense that would know how to get open in the friggin red zone
he can barely get open anymore and the only reason he puts up numbers is because of his chemistry with super accurate manning...lol at hedgehog throwing mcnabb getting him balls like peyton did the last couple years...i give it about two and a half quarters before harrison starts getting frustrated and mentally goes into retirement...he would be the wr version of hugh douglas in jacksonville if he came here
The Eagles offense compared to the Colts offense is apples and oranges. Peyton Manning throws 15-20+ yds routes left and right to Wayne and Clark...not suitable for Harrison anymore
I can almost bet you that if Harrison came here, which we know he wont, that he would be productive as hell in this offense. At his age and his speed hes not looking to do squat after the catch. Hes perfectly suited for the short dump, catch and fall that is Donovan McNabb
Yeah, because Reid has been calling so many short routes lately
98 catches for 850 yards and 4 TDs. Bet.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 23, 2009, 10:01:20 AM
Yeah, because Reid has been calling so many short routes lately
When did Reid turn into Mike Martz?
mcnabb stinks on the timing and short throws and is quite nice on the deep stuff...so lets get harrison to run eight yard hooks and fall down?...awesome
in the end i honestly dont care if they get harrison or not but i dont see any need to make a post saying youd want him...hes whatever at this point and id rather have jason avant doing what you describe than marvin harrison...eagles dont need a 37 year guy taking PT away from avant
I wont belabor this hypothetical thought any longer--Im looking for sure hands in the end zone...when you find that guy on the Eagles roster hit me up
sure hands, can't get open, and needs someone with terrific accuracy to get him the ball...sounds like a perfect fit
Quote from: reese125 on February 23, 2009, 10:16:30 AM
I wont belabor this hypothetical thought any longer--Im looking for sure hands in the end zone...when you find that guy on the Eagles roster hit me up
thats all the eagles have is guys with sure hands....avant - baskett - celek - westbrook - curtis
sure hands is not why they didnt score in the red zone
you got 3 out of 5 right
underline the other 2 that are wrong
I take it all back. Let's release Harrison into the wild and hunt him for food.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 23, 2009, 10:35:39 AM
I take it all back. Let's release Harrison into the wild and hunt him for food.
2nd. The Most Dangerous Game
let me call Rutger Hauer
Harrison's agent has confirmed that he's being released.
He thinks at his age and his diminished skill set he will still get the money he was making? :-D
No way they should go for him but if for some reason by July he realizes he will not get to start or get the money he wants they should sign him for cheap, esp since the only upgrade at WR this offseason/draft will be a 5th round pick or something lower.
It'll be like getting Roy Green and Art Monk all over again.
HOF WRs who are at the end of their time.
The past and future Marvin Harrisons together at last!
for those that would bring him in whose run does he get?
the eagles have plenty of decent wr's...what they need is ideally a one but at least someone who would become the best wr on the team if brought in
FWIW Spads mentioned on his forum that he would investigate it...so I guess it means that he is being discussed internally.
I don't want him.
Harrison and Jackson with Curtis being the 3rd guy?
Curtis and Jackson with Harrison relegated to the 3rd guy?
Both situations take away from Mr. Clutch's time as the 3rd down receiver. Jason Avant deserves more run.
Like you said....if they bring a WR in, he has to be leaps and bounds better than what they have and [Calipari]the Harrison of 10 years ago ain't walkin' through that door[/Calipari]
If Harrison comes with a time machine then I'm all for it.
Otherwise... ahhhhhhhhhhhhh no.
Well I do not want him...I was mostly joking that they might make a move like this and claim they "aggressively" upgraded the WR position. Truth be told they do not even need to since the OLINE is actually in need this time more than any other position.
My hope would be they re-sign Tra Thomas while waiting to see how Runyan bounces back, and then use one of the first 2 picks for a T while the other for the best TE/RB/WR on the board.
The Eagles are not going to make a move for any real #1 WR possibly available through a trade.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 23, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
The Eagles are not going to make a move for any real #1 WR possibly available through a trade.
Sadly this is 100 percent true and 1000 percent disgusting.
now because i dont want Harrison at his old gimpy age, there is a 98% chance the Eagles sign him on the cheap
I'd take Harrison on an Antonio Freeman 1 year type deal. Why not.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 23, 2009, 08:12:17 PM
It'll be like getting Roy Green and Art Monk all over again.
HOF WRs who are at the end of their time.
Roy Green! Now your talking. I can still remember Jeff Kemp throwing passes to him like it was yesterday. And the Cowboys coming into the Vet and beating the birds to start the beginning of the Jimmy Johnson era (their JJ not ours) is still fresh in my mind.
See all you young bucks, you never forget this shtein.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 23, 2009, 08:49:21 PMI was mostly joking that they might make a move like this and claim they "aggressively" upgraded the WR position.
sadly its no a joke...that could easily happen...hometown guy with a big name would be a brilliant PR move
besides the murder charge hanging in the background
never charged never will be...and people dont care about that crap anyway...if they think it will help their team theyd take gengis khan at fullback....ray ray actually went to trial and hes a god
Yeah, that Harrison gun charge ain't nothing but a little extra swagger.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 23, 2009, 09:42:20 PM
I'd take Harrison on an Antonio Freeman 1 year type deal. Why not.
Sure, I just wouldn't expect him to make the team. He's done.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
never charged never will be...and people dont care about that crap anyway...if they think it will help their team theyd take gengis khan at fullback....ray ray actually went to trial and hes a god
when "people" = joe joe and andy...it matters
oh they might not do it because of that...im saying if they did it it would be for PR purposes...especially in light of mcnabbs recent comments about going out and getting him help
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 24, 2009, 09:28:10 AM
Yeah, that Harrison gun charge ain't nothing but a little extra swagger.
anyone can have a little swagger....but you aint shtein until you got that schwagga
pimp got that schwagga
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 24, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
never charged never will be...and people dont care about that crap anyway...if they think it will help their team theyd take gengis khan at fullback....ray ray actually went to trial and hes a god
Will he be allowed to play on horseback?
Apparently Eskin said that the Eagles are going to go after Jason Brown of the Ravens.
He's a good player. Where would they play him though? RG and move Andrews out to RT? Or would they replace Jamaal Jackson?
Also, if they like himthey better be ready to outbid Miami. Parcells loves the guy.
NEEDLINEMEN
Maybe they don't think Andrews is going to play again, or at least, not get into good enough shape that he will get back to the level he was playing at two years ago?
The other answer is they plan on bringing back Tra and moving Andrews or another interior lineman to RT, and by doing so, opening up a spot for Brown?
heremanns sucks at guard they know thomas is leaving and they want brown at lg and heremanns compete for the LT spot
I really hope its for Jamaal Jacksons spot--he is horrendous
I know everyone makes fun and Andy and his lineman, but Brown would be a terrific signing. Trade off Jackson for another pick, and Brown is going to be a top 5 center in the league for many years. He is a beast.
I'm assuming he'd be the new center. I get the impression that they're looking to upgrade from Jackson. hell....maybe Bentley is still on that plane to NovaCare....
Call me crazy, but shouldn't Andy be targeting EXTERIOR linemen? I'm not getting fired up about an improvement at the center position...
HEY LARRY
Quote from: rjs246 on February 25, 2009, 06:08:53 PM
Call me crazy, but shouldn't Andy be targeting EXTERIOR linemen? I'm not getting fired up about an improvement at the center position...
No no no, you build from the middle, and push those guys outside when you find upgrades. There's no such thing as tackles or guards, just offensive linemen. Look at how often Tra and Runyan moved inside due to injuries!
Quote from: General_Failure on February 25, 2009, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 25, 2009, 06:08:53 PM
Call me crazy, but shouldn't Andy be targeting EXTERIOR linemen? I'm not getting fired up about an improvement at the center position...
No no no, you build from the middle, and push those guys outside when you find upgrades. There's no such thing as tackles or guards, just offensive linemen. Look at how often Tra and Runyan moved inside due to injuries!
If they re-sign Thomas, Andrews comes back mentally, and the most they use is one of the first round draft picks for a T, I would be ecstatic about this move. But those are a lot of ifs.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 25, 2009, 06:08:53 PM
Call me crazy, but shouldn't Andy be targeting EXTERIOR linemen? I'm not getting fired up about an improvement at the center position...
there are no tackles on the market...he would be addressing two positions with this move...upgrading herremans at G and "acquiring" a tackle in herremans
Everyone is saying Brown would play LG, but I don't think so. Jackson was mediocre at best. I think Brown would play center, Nick Cole would play LG, and Herremans would play tackle.
Jackson would go bye-bye.
Everyone says that because Brown has expressed interest in playing guard.
he wants to play guard because hes a much better guard than center and of course because guards get paid more...he was very inconsistent at center last year some of which might have to do with changing to that position...dook is a guard and imo playing him at center would be wasting his talents
derrick dockery is out there now
IMO Jean-Gilles is a good run blocker and we need to improve inside running game. I hope he doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
Thursday, February 26, 2009
Posted By Albert Breer 11:53 AM
A very interesting 24 hours lies ahead for the Baltimore Ravens.
And the first domino has fallen. According to an NFL source, the club has informed center Jason Brown that he is not in their plans for the 2009 season.
Brown, who turns 26 in June, is expected to garner immediate, strong interest from four or five clubs when the NFL's free-agency period opens at 12:01 a.m. Friday. Brown started in '06 and '07 at guard for the Ravens, before moving to center to replace Mike Flynn last season.
The move to let Brown leave allows Baltimore to focus on its two free-agent linebackers, Bart Scott and Ray Lewis.
he's the left guard and herremans in the RT?
imo (subject to training camp battles and on the assumption that tra is gone)
LT - herremans/1st rounder
LG - brown (was great next to JO in this spot with balt)
C - jj/nick cole
RG - andrews
RT - veteran FA/1st rounder
i'm not sure that herremans has the footwork to play left tackle...i would feel better putting someone there who has played that consistently and isn't moving there from guard
oh, and i'm assuming Tra is back and Jon isn't because that's the feel im getting listening to Gargano on WIP
at 36 and microfractured up runyan is done as far as im concerned until i see and hear otherwise
and i sort of agree on herremans which is why i think the LT position will be up for grabs in camp but with him as the favorite...and i think he was out of position at guard...is he good enough to be a tackle in the nfl...i dont know but thats definitely his position
if tra comes back then everything of course changes...maybe they dont even go after brown if that happens and instead plan on using their picks on lineman to develop for a year
Herremans played well subbing for Tra, but its whether he's consistent.
The Eagles need to let Runyan go. Im sure we will all hear how well he is doing and how ahead of schedule he is like every other payer coming back for another season
They cant expect a declining run game to get any better with a guy at 36 and a no knee cap
I really hope they re-sign Tra.
i was thinking the other day if thomas and dawk both come back they will have a combined 26 seasons with the eagles...will any other team ever again have two players both be active at the same time and have that many years of combined service
I like (and have liked for a long time) the idea of trying Herremans out at RT. He handled LT well when he was forced into duty but even if he isn't that top notch kind of LT guy he should be able to handle RT. If Tra comes back and Herremans moves the RT there isn't a whole lot of upheaval that needs to happen on the line.
Okay, so the guy with no knees is out, but the guy taking blood thinners with constant back problems should play a little longer?
yes
add in the fact that he only let up 2 sacks last year and absolutely buried Demarcus Ware--yes +2
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=17454
QuoteEagles Tender Baskett, Cole, Daniels
February 26, 2009 | Last Updated: 2/26/09 2:59 PM ET | Comments (5)
By: DAVE SPADARO
The Eagles announced on Thursday that they have tendered one-year contracts to the following free agents: WR Hank Baskett, C/G Nick Cole, and LB Tank Daniels. Baskett and Cole are restricted free agents and Daniels is an exclusive rights free agent. If another club signs Baskett or Cole to an offer sheet, the Eagles have seven days to match the offer. If they chose not to match, the club will receive a second-round draft pick in return. By offering Daniels a one-year tender, the Eagles retained exclusive negotiating rights with him.
Baskett set career highs in 2008 with 33 receptions and three touchdowns, adding 440 yards. He joined the Eagles in a trade with Minnesota after originally signing with the Vikings as a rookie free agent in 2006. The 26-year-old Baskett has posted 71 catches, 1,046 yards and six touchdowns in his three-year career in Philadelphia. Baskett is one of six players in NFL history to have three catches of 85 yards-or-more in a career.
A rookie free agent signee of the Eagles in 2006, the 24-year-old Cole has seen action in all 53 regular and postseason contests at guard, center, and as a blocking back. In 2008, Cole filled in admirably for the injured Max Jean-Gilles, who was replacing an injured Shawn Andrews at right guard. He started the final four regular season games and all three postseason games at right guard.
In his second tour of duty in Philadelphia, the 27-year-old Daniels ranked fifth on the Eagles with 18 special teams tackles after being claimed off waivers from the New York Giants on August 31, 2008. After signing with the Eagles as a rookie free agent in 2006, Daniels saw action in six regular season games and two playoff contests during his rookie season. A year later, he was a member of the Super Bowl Champion Giants, playing in five regular season games and all four playoff contests.
I thought Herremans played well at LT when he was out there. I think he's fine at LG, but if they can get Brown and plug him in there, that would be good.
But didn't Herremans sign an extension awhile ago? I don't recall the amounts of the deal.
Tra needs to be brought back; he's still got it.
Tra
Brown
Jackson/Cole
Andrews
Herremans
I'd be cool with that.
Gargano said no way no how on Brown...I guess we'll see
I bet he ends up in Miami.
And I'd like to see Tra and Dawk get done by tonight.
Look, I want Dawkins to retire as much as anyone, but having a hit put out on him isn't the way to do it.
:-D
Give him a 2yr deal and Tra a 3yr deal and call it a day, Banner.
Quote from: SunMo on February 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Gargano said no way no how on Brown...I guess we'll see
How does Gargano say no way no how right after Eskin said they are going hard after him?
Because he has a 50/50 shot of being right?
Gargano's source is Heckert; Eskin's is Reid
I wonder if Heckert's been relegated to the basement ala Milton in Office Space.
Quote from: SunMo on February 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Gargano said no way no how on Brown...I guess we'll see
Sources told him this or his opinion?
I want Brown and they have the money. Overspend.
Quote from: reese125 on February 26, 2009, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: SunMo on February 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Gargano said no way no how on Brown...I guess we'll see
How does Gargano say no way no how right after Eskin said they are going hard after him?
because
eskin is in bed with banner/reid
and
cuz is in bed with heckert
damn how do you know that...whos sleeping with Roseman?
Your mom, obviously.
Quote from: reese125 on February 26, 2009, 04:26:42 PM
damn how do you know that...whos sleeping with Roseman?
Its obvious by who they have on their show....Eskin always gets Reid at camp and does interviews with him and Heckert always calls in on Cuz's show.
Rumor has it that IGY wants Roseman to evaluate his bubble.
Brandon moore from the Jets is available:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9269978/Source:-Jets-shed-more-salary,-cut-starting-G (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9269978/Source:-Jets-shed-more-salary,-cut-starting-G)
QuoteBy Howard Balzer Thursday, February 26, 2009
Speculation in Philadelphia has the Rams dealing Holt to the Eagles for wide receiver Reggie Brown and a draft pick. And the Rams don't need salary-cap space immediately. The cap has been increased from $123 million to $127 million, and the Rams are not expected to go for the big splash in free agency. They need too much.
Yeah he's on the downside of his career but he caught 93 balls and had over 1000 yards 2 seasons ago. I'd do it, he's an upgrade over Reggie.
Depends on the draft pick, obviously. Dumping Brown and his long contract is addition by subtraction.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 26, 2009, 07:28:32 PM
QuoteBy Howard Balzer Thursday, February 26, 2009
Speculation in Philadelphia has the Rams dealing Holt to the Eagles for wide receiver Reggie Brown and a draft pick. And the Rams don't need salary-cap space immediately. The cap has been increased from $123 million to $127 million, and the Rams are not expected to go for the big splash in free agency. They need too much.
Yeah he's on the downside of his career but he caught 93 balls and had over 1000 yards 2 seasons ago. I'd do it, he's an upgrade over Reggie.
you really cant compare numbers to a guy at his age to 2 seasons ago. I mean 2 seasons ago Harrison had almost 1400 yds. Holt has some knee issues, but I think he still can very serviceable in this kind of offense..not to mention I think it would be cool as shtein to see Holt in an Eagles uniform
and anybody is an upgrade over Reggie
Line Holt, Harrison and Coles up for a 40 yard dash. Sign whoever's old ass wins.
Out of those guys I take Coles, but not thrilled about either. Give me Houshmandzadeh out of all the free agents. Out of the guys you trade for, give me Boldin. Anyone in between, eh...
Hoagze Man Zoad. Lock it up.
Championship.
That's what I said... TJ Howshmazilla.
happy new year or something
Buckhalter to Denver
eskin was at the temple game tonight. he is a piece of shtein.
TJ was just on the SportsCenter Special and said he was waiting to hear back from his agent as far as which teams were interested and he told his agent he was specifically interested in the Eagles, Giants, Seahawks and Vikings.
Said he was most interested in teams with a good QB, good offensive line and good RB.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 27, 2009, 12:38:58 AM
happy new year or something
Buckhalter to Denver
Clayton said Buckhalter and Arrington are visiting... nothing signed yet.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 27, 2009, 01:10:19 AM
interested in the Eagles, Giants, Seahawks and Vikings.
Said he was most interested in teams with a good QB, good offensive line and good RB.
lol...yeah like he cares about qb's and offensive lines...he cares about getting caked off and nothing else
hes most interested in teams that need a wr because his agent figures those teams will pay most for the position
get farging haynesworth you mother fargers!! ....do it.
edit: per pe.com buck to broncos is offical. i think he's going to tear it up. rushing yards, td's, or knees. 1 of those 3. wish him well. i'm not sure if they still do the zone blocking since gibbs left for the atl a few years ago (?) but i think he's a very good fit there. cutler is starting to do his thing too.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on February 27, 2009, 07:49:23 AM
get farging haynesworth you mother fargers!! ....do it.
ummmm
fat albert to skins.
pos, we better get boldin but probably end up re-signing akeem for 20 years.
banner said they eagles couldnt spend all the money they have under the cap and hes gonna prove it
pedal to the metal part II. tendering cole and baskett. sweet. :boom I hope hanyesworth shteins on banners head.
they should have made a power move for him anyway but if a division rival getting hanyesworth doesnt influcence the eagles to get jason brown right this farging second then they are beyond hopeless...they need to go after stacey andrews as well...and he is perfect for them since he had offseason surgery they can probably get him on the cheap
Agreed on Stacy Andrews...
Damn...Buck's gone? That sucks. I expected it, but still sucks.
Quote
HOUSHMANDZADEH TEXTS PHILLY RADIO STATION
Posted by Sheil Kapadia on February 27, 2009, 8:14 a.m.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh continues to let Eagles fans know he's interested in playing in Philadelphia if the team wants him.
The latest move was a text message sent to radio station ESPN 950 that read: "I don't know what's gonna happen, if they want me I will be an Eagle tomorrow."
Late last night on ESPN, Houshmandzadeh listed the Eagles as one of four teams he'd be interested in playing for. Earlier this month, he named Philadelphia as a possible destination during a radio interview.
Amid reports that he was close to re-signing with the Bengals last night, Houshmandzadeh told Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer that he hadn't even spoken with his agent Thursday. However, he later changed his story, confirming to Reedy that his agent Kennard McGuire had indeed been in talks with the team.
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
QuoteANTONIO SMITH GETTING INTEREST
Posted by Mike Florio on February 27, 2009, 5:13 a.m.
Several teams have begun to chase one of the members of the Cardinals' starting defense who hit the market little more than five hours ago.
Per a league source, the Buccaneers, Giants, Eagles, Texans, and Falcons have invited defensive end Antonio Smith for a visit.
Smith is in the process of coming up with a priority list of the teams, and then will finalizing arrangements for visits.
Not on the list yet are the Chiefs, where Smith's former defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast is a member of the coaching staff.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
I'm almost indifferent about it, though I think he could help. There are no free agents this year that I would get excited about if the Eagles signed.
I'd actually be happier if they came away from the 1st round with Moreno and Pettigrew than I would over anyone they could sign during FA.
Two skill position players in the first round? Which team are you following?
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on February 27, 2009, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
I'm almost indifferent about it, though I think he could help. There are no free agents this year that I would get excited about if the Eagles signed.
I'd actually be happier if they came away from the 1st round with Moreno and Pettigrew than I would over anyone they could sign during FA.
except for the duce like chants that would come from it i feel the sme way about houshmandzadeh...i just dont care either way...however i would be very very happy with a brown or andrews signing
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:43:13 AM
Two skill position players in the first round? Which team are you following?
Team Gold Standard.
I hope their needs at RB/TE are too obvious for even them to ignore this year.
Signing Brown and Andrews would free up the draft options significantly. Isn't Stacey related to Shawn?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on February 27, 2009, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
I'm almost indifferent about it, though I think he could help. There are no free agents this year that I would get excited about if the Eagles signed.
I'd actually be happier if they came away from the 1st round with Moreno and Pettigrew than I would over anyone they could sign during FA.
except for the duce like chants that would come from it i feel the sme way about houshmandzadeh...i just dont care either way...however i would be very very happy with a brown or andrews signing
So would I if for no other reason then it would present a greater opportunity to draft RB/TE with their first round picks.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:50:58 AM
Signing Brown and Andrews would free up the draft options significantly. Isn't Stacey related to Shawn?
older bro
housh is like a bad ass avant. we need a wr to shed the tackles/jams, grab the long ball.
Housh averaged a whopping 9.2 yards a catch last season. Yawn.
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
32 is the number that concerns me...receivers age so damn fast...if youre gonna get one in their 30's it better be a dominant TO type guy who is going to elevate you to championship status asap
and that mos def is not WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2009, 09:06:45 AM
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
cept they have ten players like that...none as good as tjh but is a moderate upgrade at the possesion receiver position really gonna make a difference?
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2009, 09:06:45 AM
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
They have two big white dudes for that. They don't need another slow ass long-haired hippy to catch the ball and fall over.
Edit: IGY beat me to it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 09:08:01 AM
32 is the number that concerns me...receivers age so damn fast...if youre gonna get one in their 30's it better be a dominant TO type guy who is going to elevate you to championship status asap
and that mos def is not WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Exactly. It's probably not fair to judge any Bengals WR based on the abortion that was the rest of their offense last year, but unless it's Jerry Rice at 32 I'm not going to get excited.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
nope, never thought he was anything special. He's a possession receiver with moderate big play ability. He's basically Avant but is a little better at YAC. That being said I'd be happy because he would be an upgrade, keeps himself in very good condition, and we all know the Eagles will carry over $15 million next season so why let that money go to waste.
Whoever mentioned Stacy Andrews agreed, his presence might even help his looney brother plus he's a good player.
I just drove by the Novacare Complex. Shockingly, nothing going on.
Since I know for sure they will never even attempt to trade for Boldin if he is available, I would rather have a Houz, Jackson, and Curtis lineup vs Jackson, Curtis, and Avant.
But yeah not the biggest move or the best at this point. Still better than what they have.
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 27, 2009, 09:17:51 AM
I just drove by the Novacare Complex. Shockingly, nothing going on.
Did you give LeCharles a drive-by high-five?
I did; then he buckled, fell over and grabbed his knee.
Good. Bum.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2009, 09:06:45 AM
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
cept they have ten players like that...none as good as tjh but is a moderate upgrade at the possesion receiver position really gonna make a difference?
With the parade of busts they've got at WR, any kind of upgrade is a positive.
Quote from: General_Failure on February 27, 2009, 10:27:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2009, 09:06:45 AM
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
cept they have ten players like that...none as good as tjh but is a moderate upgrade at the possesion receiver position really gonna make a difference?
With the parade of busts they've got at WR, any kind of upgrade is a positive.
i guess...but its certainly not something to get excited about
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
Am I the only one that is completely unexcited about the idea of the Eagles signing Houshmandzadeh?
No.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on February 27, 2009, 10:27:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: SunMo on February 27, 2009, 09:06:45 AM
he makes the tough catches, the ones the reggie couldn't make...you have your homerun hitter in jackson...you need someone to work the underside and make the first down catches that sustain drives.
cept they have ten players like that...none as good as tjh but is a moderate upgrade at the possesion receiver position really gonna make a difference?
With the parade of busts they've got at WR, any kind of upgrade is a positive.
i guess...but its certainly not something to get excited about
If they sign him now, after getting Stacey, I would be pretty happy. You just know this FO would never ever give away a first round pick, so might as well upgrade as much as possible and this is it. Re-sign Tra and they are off to a great start. Still have 1 first round picks to draft all time busts too.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 27, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
If they sign him now, after getting Stacey, I would be pretty happy. You just know this FO would never ever give away a first round pick, so might as well upgrade as much as possible and this is it. Re-sign Tra and they are off to a great start. Still have 1 first round picks to draft all time busts too.
i could be wrong on this but i think stacey signing means tra is gone...especially after he went public by saying the eagles low balled him...and even with stacey on board id still much rather have brown than whoosh
If Tra is gone, it's because they didn't want to tie up $15M/yr avg. in just their OTs, but I can't see them starting a year with Herremans or a rookie covering McNabb's back...
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 27, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
If Tra is gone, it's because they didn't want to tie up $15M/yr avg. in just their OTs, but I can't see them starting a year with Herremans or a rookie covering McNabb's back...
those two things cant coexist...if want to properly protect your qb's blind side then you gotta spend big money...if you dont wanna spend big money than you cant aptly protect your qb's blind side
Per Dave on Eagles Live LJ Smith is officially a Falcon. Later twatface.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 27, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
If they sign him now, after getting Stacey, I would be pretty happy. You just know this FO would never ever give away a first round pick, so might as well upgrade as much as possible and this is it. Re-sign Tra and they are off to a great start. Still have 1 first round picks to draft all time busts too.
i could be wrong on this but i think stacey signing means tra is gone...especially after he went public by saying the eagles low balled him...and even with stacey on board id still much rather have brown than whoosh
I hope not. I want Tra back at LT with Andrews at RT.
Considine visiting Jacksonville
i want andrews nowhere near right tackle
Why wouldn't you want Stacey Andrews at RT?
Oh god. The confusion begins already.
I hate this signing now.
Housh is visiting Seattle
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 12:42:30 PM
Why wouldn't you want Stacey Andrews at RT?
i thought you meant shawn
stacey is stacey like siran
shawn is andrews
yeah stacey andrews needs a nickname. i wonder if cheggie brownson is taken.
Insane and Sane Andrews
Let's not make any assumptions about Stacey's sanity. We just met the dude.
Good point.
shawn already plays right guard, which is pretty close to right tackle
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/022609_Brian_Dawkins_Is_Free_Agent
Dawk was offered a lowball 1yr deal deal.
Why not give the guy a 2-3yr deal? Those extra years mean shtein. The guy flat out said his big money days are over so he doesn't expect to get caked off.
Keep it up, FO.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 08:32:35 AM
QuoteANTONIO SMITH GETTING INTEREST
Posted by Mike Florio on February 27, 2009, 5:13 a.m.
Several teams have begun to chase one of the members of the Cardinals' starting defense who hit the market little more than five hours ago.
Per a league source, the Buccaneers, Giants, Eagles, Texans, and Falcons have invited defensive end Antonio Smith for a visit.
Smith is in the process of coming up with a priority list of the teams, and then will finalizing arrangements for visits.
Not on the list yet are the Chiefs, where Smith's former defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast is a member of the coaching staff.
Sporting News Under The Radar Free Agents (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/real_scouts/entry/view/17455/top_10_under-the-radar_free_agents_)
Quote1. Antonio Smith, DE, Arizona Cardinals
Smith is a natural pass rusher with good size. He played well down the stretch and was a good fit for the Cardinals' hybrid scheme, filling multiple roles in different fronts. Teams switching to a 3-4 scheme -- Green Bay, Kansas City, Denver -- could use a versatile guy like Smith.
Quote4. Stacy Andrews, G, Cincinnati Bengals
Andrews has knee problems, but when healthy he is a big, strong player with long arms who can seal the edge and dominate in the running game. Despite his size, he moves well enough to block linebackers on the second level. Andrews, only 27, has experience at guard and tackle.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/022609_Brian_Dawkins_Is_Free_Agent
Dawk was offered a lowball 1yr deal deal.
Why not give the guy a 2-3yr deal? Those extra years mean shtein. The guy flat out said his big money days are over so he doesn't expect to get caked off.
Keep it up, FO.
im not even a huge dawk fan but that is nauseating...christ use him as a special teamer if you want but with all the money they are holding you gotta overpay to keep the guy...he should not play with anyone but the birds
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 12:40:37 PM
Considine visiting Jacksonville
he must be just on vacation in Jax.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/022609_Brian_Dawkins_Is_Free_Agent
Dawk was offered a lowball 1yr deal deal.
Why not give the guy a 2-3yr deal? Those extra years mean shtein. The guy flat out said his big money days are over so he doesn't expect to get caked off.
Keep it up, FO.
im not even a huge dawk fan but that is nauseating...christ use him as a special teamer if you want but with all the money they are holding you gotta overpay to keep the guy...he should not play with anyone but the birds
1. How can you not be a huge Dawk fan?
2. I agree; its nauseating and with 48M to spend there is no reason for them to be fargin around with him. Just sign the guy. If he ends up somewhere else, ala St. Louis or Minnesota it's going to be a crime.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 12:45:51 PM
Oh god. The confusion begins already.
I hate this signing now.
Big ass black dudes with "S. ANDREWS", health issues, numbers in the 70s and deals that expire after 2015. What confusion?
And neither Siran nor Andrews have an "e" in "Stacy"...
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/022609_Brian_Dawkins_Is_Free_Agent
Dawk was offered a lowball 1yr deal deal.
Why not give the guy a 2-3yr deal? Those extra years mean shtein. The guy flat out said his big money days are over so he doesn't expect to get caked off.
Keep it up, FO.
im not even a huge dawk fan but that is nauseating...christ use him as a special teamer if you want but with all the money they are holding you gotta overpay to keep the guy...he should not play with anyone but the birds
What a bunch of douches.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
1. How can you not be a huge Dawk fan?
just not...he fails the look test because of his extreme ugliness and off eye and hes a zealout...i dont dislike him by any means i just dont think hes a god like a lot of people
igy wants his players big, dark, clean shaven and gorgeous just like him...and Jason Taylor
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
1. How can you not be a huge Dawk fan?
just not...he fails the look test because of his extreme ugliness and off eye and hes a zealout...i dont dislike him by any means i just dont think hes a god like a lot of people
:-D :-D
I though the look test covered physique. Now you're tellin' me you look at skin complexion/facial construction and whether they have off eyes?
Someone on the PhilaPhans MB said he heard Gargano say that he thinks Shawn will get moved out to OT and Stacy will play RG.
What?
Someone on some message board said some stuff and then I believed them and it was awesome.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
1. How can you not be a huge Dawk fan?
just not...he fails the look test because of his extreme ugliness and off eye and hes a zealout...i dont dislike him by any means i just dont think hes a god like a lot of people
:-D :-D
I though the look test covered physique. Now you're tellin' me you look at skin complexion/facial construction and whether they have off eyes?
definitely...its about the whole package...and its not any one thing that fails you...theres no definition to pass the look test you just know when someone does
this sorta explains the McNabb hate
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
1. How can you not be a huge Dawk fan?
just not...he fails the look test because of his extreme ugliness and off eye and hes a zealout...i dont dislike him by any means i just dont think hes a god like a lot of people
:-D :-D
I though the look test covered physique. Now you're tellin' me you look at skin complexion/facial construction and whether they have off eyes?
definitely...its about the whole package...and its not any one thing that fails you...theres no definition to pass the look test you just know when someone does
Ooook....I agree on a look test for physique. He passes that because he's diesel. You can't see his face half the time anyways.
Runyan was uglier than hell, but killed people
People were just scared of getting too close to his neck hair. You could choke a wild boar with that shtein.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 27, 2009, 01:25:55 PM
this sorta explains the McNabb hate
he fails the douche test
Quote from: rjs246 on February 27, 2009, 01:27:04 PM
People were just scared of getting too close to his neck hair. You could choke a wild boar with that shtein.
We saw him in Starters up at camp one year and his hairiness scared me.
A true sasquatch
Dawk visiting with Denver(nfl network)
Motherfarging Eagles.
Ha-for a team that cries leadership on the field and in out of the locker room-this is a travesty if he rolls
at least he'll fit in to the denver culture of going for people knees.
I'm going to lose my mind.
I hope that its a Trotter like situation, where they let him get an offer and then they match it...let other teams do the negotiating.
But it should not have come to this.
Goddamn I hate those farging pricks in the FO.
I'd rather him there than replacing Roy Williams in Dallas... :paranoid
Gargano reporting that Derrick Ward will visit
Quote from: BobbyT on February 27, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Dawk visiting with Denver(nfl network)
Dawk visiting anywhere but Philly is just plain WRONG!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 02:16:38 PM
Gargano reporting that Derrick Ward will visit
Good.
Quote from: BobbyT on February 27, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Dawk visiting with Denver(nfl network)
Awful.
Quote from: phattymatty on February 27, 2009, 01:44:37 PM
at least he'll fit in to the denver culture of going for people knees.
Accurate.
The FO will never, ever, ever hear the end of it if they let Dawkins walk.
This city will go completely apeshtein over it.
I can't believe they lowballed him. Mr farging Eagle.
:boom
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 27, 2009, 01:25:55 PM
this sorta explains the McNabb hate
Because he sort of looks like Dhani Jones?
Rocky Mountain Low
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 02:16:38 PM
Gargano reporting that Derrick Ward will visit
I can handle this. I would have no problem with this guy on the birds.
ward was interviewed on sirius today...all he talked about is wanting to be paid like a feature back.
Of course he wants to be paid like a feature back. I want to be paid like a feature back. Saying anything else wouldn't make sense at this point.
Quote from: Zanshin on February 27, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Of course he wants to be paid like a feature back. I want to be paid like a feature back. Saying anything else wouldn't make sense at this point.
:-D :-D :-D
Lost in the terrible news of Dawk leaving is the fact this FO has a huge need at TE and just let Tampa trade for Winslow who is one of best young TEs in the game. No way they trade for old man Gonzo since HE IS TOO OLD and they just let the best young TE available go.
Brilliant start to FA.
Eskin said the rumors about Ward are bogus.
Adam Caplan says the Eagles might be interested in Pats safety James Sanders (http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=30941)
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 27, 2009, 06:37:06 PM
Adam Caplan says the Eagles might be interested in Pats safety James Sanders (http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=30941)
Any relation to Bob?
Well the Eagles did officially lose a safety it seems:
Jaguars | Considine signed
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:24:45 -0800
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have signed unrestricted free-agent SS Sean Considine (Eagles) to a two-year deal worth $3 million.
Quote from: King Cole on February 27, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Well the Eagles did officially lose a safety it seems:
Jaguars | Considine signed
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:24:45 -0800
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have signed unrestricted free-agent SS Sean Considine (Eagles) to a two-year deal worth $3 million.
Finally some good news
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agreed
addition by subtraction
sure will miss his one special team tackle a game, though
Derrick Gunn says don't count on Houshmandzadeh:
QuoteOK, so you're wondering if the Eagles could possibly sign not one but two Cincinnati Bengals this off-season?
Don't count on it.
Tackle Stacy Andrews appears on the verge of signing with the Eagles, but don't expect wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh to do the same.
Sources have told CSN's Derrick Gunn that Houshmandzadeh's agent, Kennard McGuire, called the Eagles on Friday and claimed his client was willing to sacrifice salary in order to play in Philadelphia.
But after doing their due diligence, the Eagles discovered that McGuire was actually asking more from them than he was from other teams.
Supposedly Jason Brown got a silly offer from the Rams, but wants to play for a winner, and left St. Louis without a deal. I doubt the Birds would be seriously in the mix for him with the Stacey signing. Unless they don't plan on bringing back Tra, and have some plan to kick someone out to LT.....
Lose Dawk and sign James Sanders?
What in the motherfarg are they thinking?
Quote
EAGLES TELL T.J. TO TAKE A HIKE?
Posted by Mike Florio: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:07 PM
Receiver T.J Houshmandzadeh has said that he'd like to play for the Eagles.
But, as it turns out, the Eagles might not be interested.
According to Derrick Gunn on Comcast SportsNet, the Eagles didn't react kindly to an effort by Houshmandzadeh to dupe the team into thinking that he was offering Philly a discount. After checking around, the Eagles reportedly learned that Houshmandzadeh's agent was actually asking for more money from the Eagles than from other teams.
Per Gunn, the Eagles previously had little interest in Houshmandzadeh. The alleged bait-and-swtich routine ensured that the Eagles won't make a play for him.
Meanwhile, league observers continue to believe that Houshmandzadeh won't strike it as rich as he'd prefer. As Howard Balzer of The Sports Xchange pointed out to me earlier in the day, Houshmandzadeh will be 32 later this year.
To put it bluntly, guys in their 30s rarely get rich in the early days of free agency.
Housh is just annoying at this point. I hope he goes away, like in an ocean with cinder blocks tied to both feet.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 27, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
Housh is just annoying at this point. I hope he goes away, like in an ocean with cinder blocksReid and Banner tied to both feet.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 11:42:16 PM
Lose Dawk and sign James Sanders?
What in the motherfarg are they thinking?
Not even James Sanders.....how about 5'8" white kid Jim Leonhard? igy's head will explode...
Go to bed.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 28, 2009, 12:01:37 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 27, 2009, 11:42:16 PM
Lose Dawk and sign James Sanders?
What in the motherfarg are they thinking?
Not even James Sanders.....how about 5'8" white kid Jim Leonhard? igy's head will explode...
That guy sucks.
I heard he's going to the Jets.
Mr. NC on Jason Brown:
QuoteTo further cloud the picture, and to wonder what the heck is going on, the Eagles WERE NOT interested in Brown. There was no call made. I don't know what the agent is trying to do.
Of course not. Why would they be? Both of his knees are healthy.
So the Eagles will not go after TJ simply because his agent hurt their feelings? :-D
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 28, 2009, 11:32:37 AM
So the Eagles will not go after TJ simply because his agent hurt their feelings? :-D
These questions really don't need to be asked anymore.
With Dawkins gone, there is, as much as I hate to say it, a chance that they will focus seriously on the position in the draft. Dawkins was a leader, but his skills have seriously diminished. That being said, bring in my boy in April:
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Michael Smith of ESPN reporting that Housmandzadeh will visit the Bucs, Eagles, and possibly Giants after he's done in Minny.
So at this point in free agency, the team has a lot of holes and most of the interesting names are taken. The O-line still needs to be sorted out. The team absolutely needs an RB and a TE. There are only two safeties on the roster. WR, LB, and maybe even FB are kinda shaky. Even with all their picks, there is no way will the Eagles be able to adequately address all these needs via the draft, given their usual rate of busts, dubious projects, and white guys.
Besides, they are gonna trade both the 1st rounders up to get a CB and piss us the farg off.
I think just to piss the fans off even more they are going to use one of the picks to draft another QB.
Never too early to draft the future QB for after the Kolb era.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 28, 2009, 08:36:09 PM
I think just to piss the fans off even more they are going to use one of the picks to draft another QB.
Never too early to draft the future QB for after the Kolb era.
I'd be pleased if they drafted a quarterback.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 28, 2009, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 28, 2009, 08:36:09 PM
I think just to piss the fans off even more they are going to use one of the picks to draft another QB.
Never too early to draft the future QB for after the Kolb era.
I'd be pleased if they drafted a quarterback.
me too...i think it would be really exciting to have cutler rivers ryan flacco type potential at qb...they arent going anywhere anyway so why not have the potential and excitement of new era...it would be such a breath of fresh air from donovan...of course a new owner and coach would breath life into the fanchise as well
Kolb haters.
name changer
Rotoworld:
QuoteDerrick Ward made a free agent visit to Philadelphia earlier Saturday, but the Eagles let him leave without a contract.
The Eagles and Bengals have let him leave without a contract and it's apparently because Ward is asking for too much money. He's been the top tailback on the market all along, but his landing spot remains up in the air.
He's probably demanding seven figures
tons of running backs you can get this year in the draft...no need to go out and pay for ward...shady mccoy is gonna be sick in the league...they should make a power move to get him if hes not there at 21...he dominates the look test too
I would not waste the cash on Ward either.
Get young there.
Jermaine Phillips
Sean Jones
Dawan Landry
Landry is a RFA and I think was tendered with a 5th round comp. He's big and could allow Mikell to move to FS.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on February 28, 2009, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 28, 2009, 08:36:09 PM
I think just to piss the fans off even more they are going to use one of the picks to draft another QB.
Never too early to draft the future QB for after the Kolb era.
I'd be pleased if they drafted a quarterback.
me too...i think it would be really exciting to have cutler rivers ryan flacco type potential at qb...they arent going anywhere anyway so why not have the potential and excitement of new era...it would great to know that we could skip the Kolb era altogether...of course a new owner and coach would breath life into the fanchise as well
The fact that they are showing interest in Ward is good to know.
A really good running game would be most helpful. Besides, Westbrook was really not that great last year. He may do about as well or slightly better with some more help, but I think it's more likely that he is on the downside of his career also.
It would be nice if they'd show some interest in a guy who has more than half a season of experience at fullback.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 10:53:52 AM
It would be nice if they'd show some interest in a guy who has more than half a season of experience at fullback.
That's crazy talk. What they really should have done was re-sign Dawkins and play him at fullback. It would have been the right thing to do.
Isn't there a rule about fullbacks being whiteys?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 01, 2009, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 10:53:52 AM
It would be nice if they'd show some interest in a guy who has more than half a season of experience at fullback.
That's crazy talk. What they really should have done was re-sign Dawkins and play him at fullback. It would have been the right thing to do.
Nah. First they'd make him put on thirty pounds, then decide Westbrook will play at fullback. So they'd have Dawkins drop the weight again, only to cut Westbrook and ask Dawkins to put the weight back on.
Quote from: Rome on March 01, 2009, 11:01:01 AM
Isn't there a rule about fullbacks being whiteys?
They're probably cheaper.
Quote from: Rome on March 01, 2009, 11:01:01 AM
Isn't there a rule about fullbacks being whiteys?
It's Kyle Eckel time!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2009, 01:12:30 AM
tons of running backs you can get this year in the draft...no need to go out and pay for ward...shady mccoy is gonna be sick in the league...they should make a power move to get him if hes not there at 21...he dominates the look test too
I saw him when he was in highschool, his first carry against my alma mater went for a 72 yard td. He rushed for over 1200 yards and 13 tds in 4 district playoff games.
I like Cedric Peerman as a sleeper pick
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 10:53:52 AM
It would be nice if they'd show some interest in a guy who has more than half a season of experience at fullback.
i'm hoping they take a look at leanard weaver from sea.
Apparently the Eagles claimed former Chargers RB Eldra Buckley off waivers. Awesome.
Who?
Igy you are nuts if you think they select a RB in the first round. Or even in the 2nd round. This team hates to run the ball and even when Buck was producing he would be only allowed to have 1 carry per half. You think all of a sudden they select a RB in the first round? To do what? Be inactive on game day because he can not pick up the blitz?
Just what we need, another small runningback. He's what 5'8", 5'9" and barely 200 lbs.? I don't think he even played at all last year. Only reason I even remember him was looking to see what backups LT had.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 01, 2009, 02:21:36 PM
Who?
Never heard of him, but he was in the '07 draft and reminded people of Trung Canidate
Not exactly a good guy to be compared to.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 01, 2009, 02:26:16 PMIgy you are nuts if you think they select a RB in the first round. Or even in the 2nd round.
I think they're actually considering it this year if they don't get Pettigrew. It looks like they're going to have their choice of at least 2 of the top 3 at #21...
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 01, 2009, 02:26:16 PM
Igy you are nuts if you think they select a RB in the first round. Or even in the 2nd round. This team hates to run the ball and even when Buck was producing he would be only allowed to have 1 carry per half. You think all of a sudden they select a RB in the first round? To do what? Be inactive on game day because he can not pick up the blitz?
im pretty sure they will take a rb in the first round...im not saying its a lock or anything but i fully expect it to happen
I'd say first day, doubtful first round. Most mocks only have Wells and Moreno going in the 1st. Moreno and Lesean Mccoy are interesting but I don't feel Wells fits their mold. I think they'll spend their 3rd rounder on a RB. Last year was when they should have addressed RB when the draft was stacked, instead they spent a 3rd the previous year on Hunt and ship a 4th to Miami for Booker. Slaton would have been a good pick in the 3rd round instead of Bryan Smith.
So many needs left still and they only address one in offensive tackle, which they subsequently created the same need by not keeping Tra Thomas. Still hope Tra re-signs.
Team still needs a #1 receiver, tight end, running back, safety, o tackle.
Quote from: King Cole on March 01, 2009, 04:52:13 PM
Team still needs a #1 receiver, tight end, running back, safety, o tackle, some linebackers that can stop the run, some defensive linemen that get pressure on a quarterback, a fullback, and somebody to just go around and kick everyone in the organization right in the balls.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Apparently the Eagles claimed former Chargers RB Eldra Buckley off waivers. Awesome.
BUCK!!! I feel so much better now.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2009, 01:12:30 AM
tons of running backs you can get this year in the draft...no need to go out and pay for ward...shady mccoy is gonna be sick in the league...they should make a power move to get him if hes not there at 21...he dominates the look test too
If he' still available when the birds are up and they don't grab him I'll shtein my pants. This guy is the real deal and he belongs on the birds.
He definitely belongs on a team with a head coach who routinely gives the run the stink palm.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 01, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
I'd say first day, doubtful first round. Most mocks only have Wells and Moreno going in the 1st. Moreno and Lesean Mccoy are interesting but I don't feel Wells fits their mold. I think they'll spend their 3rd rounder on a RB. Last year was when they should have addressed RB when the draft was stacked, instead they spent a 3rd the previous year on Hunt and ship a 4th to Miami for Booker. Slaton would have been a good pick in the 3rd round instead of Bryan Smith.
shady is an automatic first rounder and donald brown should be there as well because of his combine performance...andre brown is flying up boards as well tho probably not a first rounder...also first day now is only two rounds...so if they take one on the first day theres a very good chance they take one in the first round this year
I dont think Ive ever been this excited before during free agency for the eagles.
not only are they cruising with pickups, but you can already tell its going to be a solid season next year
keep it going
Quote from: reese125 on March 01, 2009, 07:34:02 PM
I dont think Ive ever been this excited before during free agency for the eagles.
not only are they cruising with pickups, but you can already tell its going to be a solid season next year
keep it going
nothing will ever be as bad as 2005 and the mike mcmahon offseason but this one is is probably going to come in second place...whats even more dishearting is that the three teams in their division are all making additions left and right while the eagles continue to lose good players
sheldon's going to be on Sports Final tonight, plus King will have his usual stuff
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 07:43:12 PM
sheldon's going to be on Sports Final tonight, plus King will have his usual stuff
i expect nothing less than a link to the video no later than 11:59
ha
They're supposedly going to ask him about being the new defensive leader and possibly moving to safety
What time does Sports Final start? I may actually get to watch it tonight! Holler!
11:30, NBC
farg that. It's past my bedtime.
They still have SportsFinal? How long has that been around?
its basically Eskin being an insufferable homer, Vai calling him out on it, and John whatever his name is yelling
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 01, 2009, 07:58:37 PM
its basically Eskin being an insufferable homer, Vai calling him out on it, and John whatever his name is yelling
ha...pretty much
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Apparently the Eagles claimed former Chargers RB Eldra Buckley off waivers. Awesome.
can this guy return punts and/or kicks? with demps possibly starting at safety and jackson hopefully being the top wr, you gotta think they might not want those 2 returning kicks.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 07:48:14 PM
ha
They're supposedly going to ask him about being the new defensive leader and possibly moving to safety
will they ask him about being the 3rd highest paid cb on the team?
There isn't room for Demps to start. Quintin Mikell is too good. They don't even need a 2nd safety.
Quote from: hunt on March 01, 2009, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Apparently the Eagles claimed former Chargers RB Eldra Buckley off waivers. Awesome.
can this guy return punts and/or kicks? with demps possibly starting at safety and jackson hopefully being the top wr, you gotta think they might not want those 2 returning kicks.
no chance pimp doesnt return punts...and if they strip that duty from him they should be shot
i agree he should. just going off something spudhead wrote in one of his articles.
found it.
QuoteReturn game. If Demps starts at free safety, he won't return kickoffs. Same with DeSean Jackson, who may have to give up his return duties in the punt game if he is the go-to receiver in the passing game.
Well, then it must be so!
Quote from: hunt on March 01, 2009, 08:15:14 PM
i agree he should. just going off something spudhead wrote in one of his articles.
found it.
QuoteReturn game. If Demps starts at free safety, he won't return kickoffs. Same with DeSean Jackson, who may have to give up his return duties in the punt game if he is the go-to receiver in the passing game.
demps i can see...but pimp has the potential to be the best in the nfl at that position...you dont put that on the bench...he of course is not deion but it would be akin to the cowboys having taken pr duties away from him because he was their best corner
QuoteReturn game. If Demps starts at free safety, he won't return kickoffs. Same with DeSean Jackson, who may have to give up his return duties in the punt game if he is the go-to receiver in the passing game.
he was the go-to receiver....plus the eagles dont have a go-to #1 regardless right Spuds?
the eagles have been dying for a punt return game for years and finally found one--so because DJack will be getting 5 more balls thrown to him they should relinquish his duties? farg out of here
Quote from: Rome on March 01, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
He definitely belongs on a team with a head coach who routinely gives the run the stink palm.
well, he can learn play action on third and 1, third and inches, fourth and one, fourth and a millimeter, etc. All out of the shotgun of course.
cross James Sanders off the list...he re-signed with NE (3-yr deal)
Sports Final lineup tonight:
B-Dawk talk
Adam Caplan
Howard Eskin
Caplan:
- Eagles like Bills CB Jabari Greer
- Nobody wants Tra Thomas, he's surprised he hasn't come crawling back already
- Thought the Lito trade was a steal in the Eagles favor
- Eagles wanted Bo Scaife bad before he was re-signed
- Said there's 3 or 4 TEs the Eagles are looking at in the draft, thinks they'll have to trade up if they want Pettigrew
love hearing "how bad" the Eagles always want a player
youre one of the top franchises in the NFL with loads of loot...make it happen
bunch of bullshteinters
They want people bad enough to offer them exactly what they think their market value is, and hope things work out.
Someone made this into an avatar:
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ha
Dave's gonna deck somebody's puss.
Rumors starting to fly that the Pats are going to make a play for Peppers.
Earth to Eagles FO....get off your motherfarging asses
the best was Dave on DNL on Friday...
"I know people are upset about Dawkins, but the Eagles have big plans for this offseason, judge the team that shows up to Lehigh, not what happened in the first days of free agency"
BIG PLANS!
Additions: Stacey Andrews
Subtractions: Runyan, LJ Smith, Considine, Lito, Dawkins, Buckhalter
Eagles needs: OT, TE, S, , RB
Not saying I wanted all those players back but
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2009, 10:19:38 AM
the best was Dave on DNL on Friday...
"I know people are upset about Dawkins, but the Eagles have big plans for this offseason, judge the team that shows up to Lehigh, not what happened in the first days of free agency"
BIG PLANS!
on wip they said spadaro wrote a front page pe.com article degrading dawkins...is this true...did someone post this and i missed it...or has anyone read it?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
Additions: Stacey Andrews
Subtractions: Runyan, LJ Smith, Considine, Lito, Dawkins, Buckhalter
Eagles needs: OT, TE, S, , RB
Not saying I wanted all those players back but
i know you are only listing the definites but also tra if he doesnt come back
This off season has been a disaster so far. I have to hold out hope that there are some sort of plans to replace Dawk, Buck, and Smith before draft day.
I'm an eternal optimist. A man can dream.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2009, 10:19:38 AM
the best was Dave on DNL on Friday...
"I know people are upset about Dawkins, but the Eagles have big plans for this offseason, judge the team that shows up to Lehigh, not what happened in the first days of free agency"
BIG PLANS!
on wip they said spadaro wrote a front page pe.com article degrading dawkins...is this true...did someone post this and i missed it...or has anyone read it?
I took a look over there for it, and instead came across another Spads article which I obviously had to stop reading once my eyes started bleeding. :puke
QuoteTake a look at the secondary, where the Q Times Two duo of Quintin Mikell (non-draft free agent) and Quintin Demps (fourth-round draft pick, 2008) are set to become the first Q-rated defensive backfield tandem in NFL history.
This man gets paid to write. Paid money. By my favorite football team.
the only reason to go to pe.com is cheerleader videos.
Does anyone here think that Demps is actually ready to take over the free safety position? I know no one here made the decision but this seems to the reality we as a fan base are facing. As constructed now, what kind of secondary will we be watching next season?
Are there any other veteran safeties the Eagles can bring in?
I understand Blaine Bishop is available.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
This man gets paid to write. Paid money. By my favorite football team.
At least, he doesn't insert, commas where they don't, belong?
Quote from: Displaced on March 02, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
Does anyone here think that Demps is actually ready to take over the free safety position? I know no one here made the decision but this seems to the reality we as a fan base are facing. As constructed now, what kind of secondary will we be watching next season?
Are there any other veteran safeties the Eagles can bring in?
Nope, he's not ready. The kicker in all of this is will be when they bring in another stop gap veteran safety until they find a better replacement. Mentioned before, but if they would have had a guy in place this pr mess could have been avoided.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 02, 2009, 10:47:48 AM
I understand Blaine Bishop is available.
He's still running down 95 after Jureviscous
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 02, 2009, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2009, 10:19:38 AM
the best was Dave on DNL on Friday...
"I know people are upset about Dawkins, but the Eagles have big plans for this offseason, judge the team that shows up to Lehigh, not what happened in the first days of free agency"
BIG PLANS!
on wip they said spadaro wrote a front page pe.com article degrading dawkins...is this true...did someone post this and i missed it...or has anyone read it?
I took a look over there for it, and instead came across another Spads article which I obviously had to stop reading once my eyes started bleeding. :puke
QuoteTake a look at the secondary, where the Q Times Two duo of Quintin Mikell (non-draft free agent) and Quintin Demps (fourth-round draft pick, 2008) are set to become the first Q-rated defensive backfield tandem in NFL history.
haha
sounds like the article might have been written on friday nite or sat so maybe its buried now
Demps will be fine.
We know he can cover when hes not one on one on the best reciever in the nfl or hitting kurt warner three minutes after the play is over.
It will be interesting to see how he is in run support but he'll be fine. he actually has talent.
If they go into the season with Demps as the starter safety becomes the position they failed to address (07' PR 08' FB)
Nah. RB will be though. Westy=cooked.
I don't think Demps will be a train wreck in the mold of the no PR in 2007 and no FB in 2008. But I think he is still green and could use another year of being the 3rd safety and returning kicks.
But they almost HAVE to go with him. Because if they pull a Bishop type acquisition with a veteran and let him play FS then it will only make Dawk leaving worse.
Stupid ass Eagles
Why are we assuming that Demps can't play? I don't like Dawkins being let go either, but I see no reason to believe that Demps is incapable of playing in the NFL.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
Why are we assuming that Demps can't play? I don't like Dawkins being let go either, but I see no reason to believe that Demps is incapable of playing in the NFL.
and you have no reason to believe he can...no one has any idea if demps can play...not even the eagles which is why they are bringing leohnard in for a visit today...regardless of whether demps can play or not it should have had no bearing whatsoever on letting dawkins go...
Demps actually played a lot last year so I don't know why you think the Eagles don't know if he can play.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
Why are we assuming that Demps can't play? I don't like Dawkins being let go either, but I see no reason to believe that Demps is incapable of playing in the NFL.
and you have no reason to believe he can...no one has any idea if demps can play...not even the eagles which is why they are bringing leohnard in for a visit today...regardless of whether demps can play or not it should have had no bearing whatsoever on letting dawkins go...
I'm not arguing with that, I'm just saying that we have no idea and should automatically assume that the guy is useless. Settle down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
Why are we assuming that Demps can't play? I don't like Dawkins being let go either, but I see no reason to believe that Demps is incapable of playing in the NFL.
and you have no reason to believe he can...no one has any idea if demps can play...not even the eagles which is why they are bringing leohnard in for a visit today...regardless of whether demps can play or not it should have had no bearing whatsoever on letting dawkins go...
Rumored he's coming in, hasn't been confirmed yet
And he's an igy guy if I've ever seen one
(http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/NFL/Headshots/140x170/7442.jpg)
More white dudes on defense please.
Jim Leonhard sucks. Want to talk about a guy who bounces off RBs like Considine? There's your guy.
And again, if they sign another safety to play FS after letting Dawk go, it only makes that decision look worse. Gotta let Demps play
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
And again, if they sign another safety to play FS after letting Dawk go, it only makes that decision look worse. Gotta let Demps play
Are you just sitting at your keyboard with tears in your eyes, typing straight from the heart without letting your brain filter it? They almost have to sign at least one safety, unless you want the only backups to be rookies.
Yes.
Sign a veteran to play STs and back up, my point is you have to let Demps start. If they sign a veteran to start, that's stupid.
Maybe they're working a trade for Ed Reed.
Why would you "let" Demps start by default just because Dawkins is gone? You're losing your mind.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 11:42:02 AM
Why would you "let" Demps start by default just because Dawkins is gone? You're losing your mind.
Well, as you know the front office is really worried about what the fans think of them right now. Signing a veteran to replace Dawkins, especially when they had infinity million dollars under the cap and could have paid him in preteen sex slaves, is a publicity hit they can't afford right now.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 02, 2009, 11:45:44 AM
Well, as you know the front office is really worried about what the fans think of them right now.
Totally.
Are you saying that the FO has had preeteen sex slaves this whole time and has been holding out? Now THAT is a slap in the face. You can't hoard that shtein, man.
I don't know for sure that they have preteen sex slaves in stock, maybe sitting around in some freight container taking turns molesting and comforting each other, but I do know that infinity dollars can buy a lot of them pretty quick.
yeah, not too sure what the hell Phreak is talking about
if they have a veteran that has better cover skills than Demps and can hit bring his ass in and play
I thought it was infinity million dollars. Get your story straight.
pretty sure it was a googleplex
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2009, 11:50:31 AM
I thought it was infinity million dollars. Get your story straight.
The nice thing about infinity dollars is it can be used to make change for infinity million dollars, infinity pennies, or infinity yen.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 02, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
The nice thing about infinity dollars is it can be used to make change for infinity million dollars, infinity pennies, or infinity yen.
Sure but have you seen the conversion rate against the infinity yen lately? Awful.
Eagles fans are so SMRT. Poll from PE.com:
QuoteWhat Position Is Next To Address In FA?
Running back - 19.7%
Wide receiver - 48.1%
Safety - 24.5%
Tight end - 4.2%
Other position - 3.5%
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
Jim Leonhard sucks. Want to talk about a guy who bounces off RBs like Considine? There's your guy.
And again, if they sign another safety to play FS after letting Dawk go, it only makes that decision look worse. Gotta let Demps play
wait till they give pimps PR job to leonhard and i fire bomb the novacare complex
Who was saying earlier that "you don't move the league's best PR man out of that position?"
This team has already done that once in the last 5 years. What makes you think they won't do it again?
pimp is a much better punt retuner than westbrook...hes a much better pr than a wr...was one of the best ever in college...westbrook could have been one in the best in the league if he was ever given the chance but well never know...and while i always diagreed with not having westbrook back there the team had a legit concern in putting a league mvp type guy back there...vs doing it with a #2 wr who was born to return punts
i was born to farg qunts
edit: damn filters harshin my rhyme
Im ready for the Jay Cutler regime to start in Philadelphia
thanks
My point, ladies, is this...
Why in the hell would they sign a guy like Leonhard or whatever other FS is on the market when they could have signed Dawkins?
And if they DO sign some scrub ass to start at FS then it is a counterproductive move when you have Demps lying in wait. Demps, in my opinion, needs another year. But now that they have kicked Dawk's ass outta the door, you have to let him start.
Because if their plan was to not start him this year, then why in the farg did they kick Dawkins out the door?
dawkins would have easily stayed in a different role the same role he played much of last year where he isnt put on an island deep that often...
this has nothing to do with dawks on the field play which is easily good enough to play another year
i mean if dawkins is that bad then why did the eagles offer him a contract at any price?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 01:21:20 PM
i mean if dawkins is that bad then why did the eagles offer him a contract at any price?
So, now they're stupid for even placing a non-zero value on him. Got it.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up with your platitudes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 01:21:20 PM
i mean if dawkins is that bad then why did the eagles offer him a contract at any price?
So, now they're stupid for even placing a non-zero value on him. Got it.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up with your platitudes.
you didnt answer the question...why did they try to bring him back at all?
and what about dawk makes four or five million more unacceptable for the eagles to have brought him back
They should have franchised him at least.
No one answered my question.
Did Dawk go back to Philly and ask them to match?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 01:27:58 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 01:21:20 PM
i mean if dawkins is that bad then why did the eagles offer him a contract at any price?
So, now they're stupid for even placing a non-zero value on him. Got it.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up with your platitudes.
you didnt answer the question...why did they try to bring him back at all?
and what about dawk makes four or five million more unacceptable for the eagles to have brought him back
They tried to bring him back because he has SOME value. How much value he has is exactly the question that obviously separates the two sides of this argument. Aside from G_F, I'm pretty sure no one said he "sucked" or shouldn't have a job. Aside from Phreak, I don't think anyone is mistaking him for a Pro Bowler anymore. So, his value is somewhere in the middle of 0 and a lot.
Also, I absolutely never said that it would have been unacceptable for them to bring him back. I also didn't even say that they made the right decision. Simply, I think those of you bemoaning the move as a huge tragedy or a massive misstep are whiny bitches without a leg to stand on here.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 02, 2009, 01:33:05 PM
No one answered my question.
Did Dawk go back to Philly and ask them to match?
Nothing has been reported, so I doubt it.
So why is this entirely the fault of the Eagles FO? It may have been a gamble that backfired, or it may have been that they didn't want Dawk back at higher than they offered.
But it certainly wasn't the FO that made Dawkins sign with another team. Especially if (and I acknowledge that we don't know the answer to this) Dawkins never gave them the opportunity.
Could we discuss this in a few more threads?
No.
Disappointing.
We need to start one to talk about where we were and what we felt when we heard the devastating news.
Dawkins was the face of the Eagles...but he was so blaine-bishopy on the field. Time to move on.
Dawkins may have not been the player he once was, but he was never as bad as Blaine Bishop was when he played for the Eagles
He'll get that bad playing for the Broncos, so there's that to look forward to.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 02, 2009, 02:41:40 PM
He'll get that bad playing for the Broncos, so there's that to look forward to.
:-D
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
They tried to bring him back because he has SOME value. How much value he has is exactly the question that obviously separates the two sides of this argument. Aside from G_F, I'm pretty sure no one said he "sucked" or shouldn't have a job. Aside from Phreak, I don't think anyone is mistaking him for a Pro Bowler anymore. So, his value is somewhere in the middle of 0 and a lot.
Also, I absolutely never said that it would have been unacceptable for them to bring him back. I also didn't even say that they made the right decision. Simply, I think those of you bemoaning the move as a huge tragedy or a massive misstep are whiny bitches without a leg to stand on here.
because of your obsession with money you just will never get this...youre saying he has enough value to bring back at five million but not 7.5 milion?...at 43 million under the cap?...you cant really put a number on dawkins value to this team and franchise..and even if you can that number is certainly more than a few million dollars
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
They tried to bring him back because he has SOME value. How much value he has is exactly the question that obviously separates the two sides of this argument. Aside from G_F, I'm pretty sure no one said he "sucked" or shouldn't have a job. Aside from Phreak, I don't think anyone is mistaking him for a Pro Bowler anymore. So, his value is somewhere in the middle of 0 and a lot.
Also, I absolutely never said that it would have been unacceptable for them to bring him back. I also didn't even say that they made the right decision. Simply, I think those of you bemoaning the move as a huge tragedy or a massive misstep are whiny bitches without a leg to stand on here.
because of your obsession with money you just will never get this...youre saying he has enough value to bring back at five million but not 7.5 milion?...at 43 million under the cap?...you cant really put a number on dawkins value to this team and franchise..and even if you can that number is certainly more than a few million dollars
Wrong. You clearly can, and it's $5M.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 03:26:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 02, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
They tried to bring him back because he has SOME value. How much value he has is exactly the question that obviously separates the two sides of this argument. Aside from G_F, I'm pretty sure no one said he "sucked" or shouldn't have a job. Aside from Phreak, I don't think anyone is mistaking him for a Pro Bowler anymore. So, his value is somewhere in the middle of 0 and a lot.
Also, I absolutely never said that it would have been unacceptable for them to bring him back. I also didn't even say that they made the right decision. Simply, I think those of you bemoaning the move as a huge tragedy or a massive misstep are whiny bitches without a leg to stand on here.
because of your obsession with money you just will never get this...youre saying he has enough value to bring back at five million but not 7.5 milion?...at 43 million under the cap?...you cant really put a number on dawkins value to this team and franchise..and even if you can that number is certainly more than a few million dollars
Again, you are making up my opinions for me. If I'm the GM of the Eagles, he gets brought back at nearly any price. But I am a fan with a Dawkins jersey hanging in my closet, not the GM. I think it was a perfectly reasonable decision personnel-wise NOT to bring him back. It's not the one I personally would have made, but it's reasonable.
Letting the best player you have at a certain position go with no clear contingency plan to replace him with equal or better play for the upcoming year is far from reasonable.
THey've done that a bunch in the past, the reason why it sucks so much now is because this player happens to be a pillar of the franchise and the most popular Eagle of the last 15 years. He also probably had a year or two left in the tank.
Reasonable. Haha. Yeah.
Your blatant attempt to get IGY to like you is not going to work.
Now you're just being unreasonable.
In other news, Michael Smith seems hell bent on a "showdown" happening between McNabb and the Eagles.
Quote from: Munson on March 02, 2009, 04:29:07 PM
In other news, Michael Smith seems hell bent on a "showdown" happening between McNabb and the Eagles.
just saw that on NFL Live. Loved when Dilfer shut his ass down by saying DMac isn't going anywhere. Said most teams are moving forward and where the hell is he going at this point? If something's going to happen it's got to happen now.
I mean I usually like Michael Smith but at this point he's just throwing out his crazy theories and ideas and stating them like fact.
"I think this will lead to a showdown between McNabb and the Eagles. I think he'll want and demand a trade very soon."
Based on what?
The Vikings are still one player and a half away from a Superbowl and Sage Rosenfels wasnt correct
only donovan and smith know whats being said btwn the two but keep in mind mcnabbs camp is super close to smith...smith is also not skip bayless he is actually a much respected reporter
Somehow I knew someone throwing out his opinions and crazy theories as fact would appeal to you.
doesnt appeal to me...i dont care either way...but youre labeling things as crazy lies when in fact you had no idea that smith and donovans family are really close and that smith isnt some tabloid reporter...just sayin get your shtein straight before you speak
DGunn got a text from Tra this morning, he's in Jax and things are going well, they haven't made him a formal offer but he thinks it's coming. Tra's a Florida guy too.
Wait, so is DGunn reliable this week or full of shtein this week? I'm just trying to keep up.
Gunner has been on the money all week.
When has DGunn been full of shtein? It's not like he's hearing second hand info, this came directly from Tra. If he made that up he'd have zero credibility for the rest of his life.
He didn't say he was full of shtein, he asked whether he was or not. Tra is Gunner's boy though and they are friends. I absolutely believe this scoop.
According to Rotoworld and Espn Housh signed with the Seahawks
gunn is very good is generally on point...and again hes not an eckel type who is a drama queen...people kill me when they slam reporters who give news they dont like or vice versa...which is what FF is doing to gunn...phreak quoting eckel earlier today (after he has forever murdered him on this board) because he reported something anti FO in the dawk saga was funneee too
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2009, 06:06:55 PM
According to Rotoworld and Espn Housh signed with the Seahawks
5/$40M/$15M guaranteed
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2009, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2009, 06:06:55 PM
According to Rotoworld and Espn Housh signed with the Seahawks
5/$40M/$15M guaranteed
I knew someone would overpay for him
The Seahawks needed him more than anybody.
More than the Bengals?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 06:14:14 PM
gunn is very good is generally on point...and again hes not an eckel type who is a drama queen...people kill me when they slam reporters who give news they dont like or vice versa...which is what FF is doing to gunn...phreak quoting eckel earlier today (after he has forever murdered him on this board) because he reported something anti FO in the dawk saga was funneee too
I always murder the guy because he's a fleshpopbag. But I posted that because I actually believe what he's saying this time.
from PTF
QuoteEAGLES' THOMAS VISITING JAGUARS
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 2, 2009, 8:05 p.m. EST
Philadelphia Eagles free agent offensive tackle Tra Thomas visited the Jacksonville Jaguars today, two league sources told Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer.
According to the article, it's unknown whether Thomas remains in Jacksonville.
Thomas' agent, Peter Schaffer, declined comment.
Thomas has started at left tackle since being drafted by former Eagles coach Ray Rhodes in 1998 and is known as an extremely durable veteran blocker.
Thomas is a free agent as well as injured teammate Jon Runyan, another veteran offensive tackle.
-1
Replace Thomas and Runyan with the Andrews brothers, give Nick Cole that lowball long-term deal that he'll hate in a couple of years, championship.
Quote from: reese125 on March 02, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
More than the Bengals?
The Bengals have Ocho, The hawks now have Hous, and we have the pimp. Oh yeah and a really cool white dude.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 02, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 02, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
More than the Bengals?
The Bengals have Ocho, The hawks now have Hous, and we have the pimp. Oh yeah and a really cool white dude.
... who deflects passes off his facemask.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 02, 2009, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 02, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 02, 2009, 08:08:36 PM
More than the Bengals?
The Bengals have Ocho, The hawks now have Hous, and we have the pimp. Oh yeah and a really cool white dude.
... who deflects passes off his facemask.
As Carl Spackler would say, "We got that goin for us, which is nice"
nm
phreak got it
^^^^
so mad
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_updat...Y_INTEREST.html
Quote
"THOMAS: EAGLES HAVEN'T SHOWN ANY INTEREST; SHAWN SPRINGS VISITING BIRDS
Tra Thomas left Jacksonville without a contract, but he showed zero optimism today when asked if he still thought there was a chance he'd return to the Eagles next season.
"They haven't shown any interest in bringing me back, so as hard as it is I have to move forward," Thomas said via text message. "The Eagles have always been the team I wanted to play for, but now I have to go to the team that wants me."
Thomas, who returned to his South Jersey home to celebrate one of his son's birthdays tomorrow, didn't say if the Jaguars would be that team, but Jacksonville is the only place he has visited thus far. It's also roughly 100 miles from his boyhood home in Deland, Fla.
The Eagles also announced that veteran cornerback Shawn Springs has arrived in town for a visit with the team. Springs, 33, has played the last five seasons with the Washington taterskins, but was released by the team Saturday as part of a salary-cap purge. He had 12 interceptions in his five seasons with the taterskins.
There have been rumblings that the Eagles might try to trade veteran Sheldon Brown, who has given indications that he might not be happy about his contract situation. A visit by Springs will only fuel that speculation. Of course, it could also rekindle the debate about moving Brown to safety now that Brian Dawkins is gone."
pfft...like they'd sign a 34-yr old
Double dose of AIDS in that story. I wonder what the top-secret plan is at the Novacare because so far this is the weakest offseason in recent memory.
It seems blatantly clear to me that they are blaming the Arizona loss on their aging nucleus and decided after the game that the way to get to the next level was make every position younger.
Which doesn't explain Springs, but whatever.
I'm beginning to wonder now if they plan on trading McNabb. These moves scream rebuilding to me.
Quote from: King Cole on March 03, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
It seems blatantly clear to me that they are blaming the Arizona loss on their aging nucleus and decided after the game that the way to get to the next level was make every position younger.
Which doesn't explain Springs, but whatever.
lol @ arguing with yourself
I have no idea what the plan is, unless it's to hit the second and third wave of free agency real hard. That and play the Rockey theme really loud at the home opener. That gets the fans PUMPED!
The plan is what it always is. Unless there is a big time CB or DE available who they can sign, and not have to trade for, they will sit back and sign 2nd tier players coming off injuries just to push the already designated starters during camp.
They will also attempt to address all their needs with the 11 picks they have. Cause you know they are so awesome at doing that. Apparently they will get impact players at all the following need positions: T, RB, TE, WR, S, and LB.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 03, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_updat...Y_INTEREST.html
Quote
"THOMAS: EAGLES HAVEN'T SHOWN ANY INTEREST; SHAWN SPRINGS VISITING BIRDS
Tra Thomas left Jacksonville without a contract, but he showed zero optimism today when asked if he still thought there was a chance he'd return to the Eagles next season.
"They haven't shown any interest in bringing me back, so as hard as it is I have to move forward," Thomas said via text message. "The Eagles have always been the team I wanted to play for, but now I have to go to the team that wants me."
Thomas, who returned to his South Jersey home to celebrate one of his son's birthdays tomorrow, didn't say if the Jaguars would be that team, but Jacksonville is the only place he has visited thus far. It's also roughly 100 miles from his boyhood home in Deland, Fla.
The Eagles also announced that veteran cornerback Shawn Springs has arrived in town for a visit with the team. Springs, 33, has played the last five seasons with the Washington taterskins, but was released by the team Saturday as part of a salary-cap purge. He had 12 interceptions in his five seasons with the taterskins.
There have been rumblings that the Eagles might try to trade veteran Sheldon Brown, who has given indications that he might not be happy about his contract situation. A visit by Springs will only fuel that speculation. Of course, it could also rekindle the debate about moving Brown to safety now that Brian Dawkins is gone."
This FO has gone full blown insane.
But then again, Sheldon is one who will speak out from time to time..and that can't happen at Camp Banner. Talk out of line, want more money and you get benched or traded or cut.
Yeah, let's let Sheldon go...sign Springs as his replacement and then watch as Hanson gets torced when Springs misses his required 4 or so games.
They have lost their goddamn minds.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 27, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
Per Dave on Eagles Live LJ Smith is officially a Falcon. Later twatface.
So much for that...I wondered why we haven't seen anything official...
QuoteL.J. SMITH TO VISIT LIONS
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 3, 2009, 6:25 p.m.
Philadelphia Eagles free agent tight end L.J. Smith is on his way to Detroit where he'll meet with Lions team officials tonight and Tuesday, according to Albert Breer of SportingNews.com.
Smith caught just 37 passes for 298 yards and three touchdowns last season one year removed from being the Eagles' franchise player.
In 2006, Smith caught 50 passes and five touchdowns.
As Breer points out, the Lions are hurting at tight end. Between Michael Gaines and Casey Fitzsimmons, they combined for just 35 receptions last season.
you meant to tell me that he couldnt leave the Falcons facility without a contract offer when their top tight end is Justin Peele
wow you suck
If the Eagles sign Springs and then trade Sheldon, I will Jihad something.
Domowitch to Eagles fans: STFU (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/40648577.html)
QuoteWe're just 5 days into the free agency signing period and Eagles fans once again are having their annual March panic attack.
Oh my God. Dawk is gone. What are we going to do for a free safety next season? Somebody call 911.
Oh my God. Correll Buckhalter is gone too. If Andy Reid thinks he can go into '09 with Lorenzo Booker as his backup running back, he must be taking stupid pills.
Oh my God. These crazy SOBs also are letting left tackle Tra Thomas test free agency. What if they lose him too?
For crying out loud, calm down people. I understand your anger over the Eagles letting a beloved player like Dawkins leave. And while it certainly wasn't one of their smarter public relations moves, the bottom line is his departure is going to have a minimal effect on one of the league's best defenses.
Will he be missed in the locker room? Absolutely. Will they miss his leadership? Yes, but Jim Johnson's talented unit has plenty of others who will step up and fill the leadership void, including cornerback Sheldon Brown, safety Quintin Mikell and linebacker Stewart Bradley.
If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned right now with the free agent reinforcements the Giants have brought in to strengthen an already potent defensive line. If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned that, for some inexplicable reason, they never went after the best offensive lineman in free agency – center/guard Jason Brown – than that they let Dawkins take a hike.
But it's early. Too early to be making absolute judgments about this team. Too early to be suggesting, as some lunatic-fringe talk-show hosts have, that they're in a rebuilding mode.
Let's see what they do in the remaining months of free agency. Let's see what they do in next month's draft, particularly with those 2 first-round picks.
While many of the big names already have been plucked from the free agency market, there still are people out there that can help this team. There are some decent blocking fullbacks, including the Patriots' Heath Evans and the Cardinals' Terrelle Smith.
While there really isn't a free agent left tackle worth signing, there still are some good interior linemen available, in case the Eagles plan to move one of their 2 starting guards – Todd Herremans or Shawn Andrews – outside to left tackle.
And there still are some pretty good unsigned safeties that can be either a starting replacement for Dawkins or a backup to Demps if they think he is ready.
As for a running back to share the load with Westbrook, who will turn 30 before next season, they're going to have to address that in the draft, probably with one of those 2 first-round picks. Because there's only dreck left.
QuoteAdam Schefter of NFLNetwork reports Edgerrin James spoke with Cardinals GM Rod Graves and pleaded to be cut. James knows that he will eventually be cut and he is missing out on other teams right now.
Pass.
I dont understand all the "passes" for these aging veterans
If youre looking for a long term deal with a big bonus I see your point, but if they sign for pennies who cares--they'll be here for a year maybe 2 if their lucky--which is probably the Eagles only shot at a championship anyway
any veteran at this point Im down--minus CB or S
I certainly see where Domo is coming from, but from a fans standpoint there are a lot more questions than answers at this point. With all the holes the Eagles currently have is there any doubt they will fill at least 2 them with some bullshtein mormon?
i wonder if donovan agrees with domo
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2009, 11:30:29 AM
i wonder if donovan agrees with domo
I wonder if he puked when he read it.
I wonder if he crumpled it up and threw it away, but instead of landing it in the basket he hit the ground in front of it.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 04, 2009, 12:04:03 PM
I wonder if he crumpled it up and threw it away, but instead of landing it in the basket he hit the ground in front of it.
The basket was moving at a constant rate across his line of sight, but he threw it as if it were standing still.
God damn moving baskets. McNabb needs more stability in his home furnishings.
the one thing I really agree with is "If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned right now with the free agent reinforcements the Giants have brought in to strengthen an already potent defensive line." Jerry Reese basically said they would take Burress back if he isn't in jail as well.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 04, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
the one thing I really agree with is "If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned right now with the free agent reinforcements the Giants have brought in to strengthen an already potent defensive line." Jerry Reese basically said they would take Burress back if he isn't in jail as well.
As though the Giants' moves and the Eagles lack of moves exist in their own little vacuums...
The Giants/Cowboys/taterskins making moves have an impact on the Eagles 6 games a year. Sure Eagles fans should be worried about their moves. That doesn't happen completely independent of the fans being worried about the Eagles lack of moves. What a jackass.
It would appear the Cowboys are cocking this up even more than the Eagles. Go team!
Warner re-signs with Cards. He got a Kurt Warner autographed jersey as a signing bonus.
2/$23M/$15M SB
(base of $4M each season)
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 04, 2009, 02:18:16 PM
Warner re-signs with Cards. He got a Kurt Warner autographed jersey as a signing bonus.
I chuckled.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 04, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
2/$23M/$15M SB
(base of $4M each season)
With those quotes from that former Cardinal regarding how cheap that organization is, isn't it hilarious that even they are spending more money in FA than the Birds?
pretty sure Andrews contract is bigger than that
CB Jabari Greer signs with Saints
Sweet! Springs is "ours!"
he is so going to kick Sam Hurd's ass
Are the Eagles looking at acquiring #1 receiver Sam Hurd?
no
I never even knew 6 time Pro-Bowler C Matt Birk from the Vikings was available for the Ravens to scoop
damn shame...I wish the Eagles hated J.Jackson as much as I do
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
I never even knew 6 time Pro-Bowler C Matt Birk from the Vikings was available for the Ravens to scoop
damn shame...I wish the Eagles hated J.Jackson as much as I do
shtein, how old is Birk? I've always loved that guy.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 04, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 04, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
the one thing I really agree with is "If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned right now with the free agent reinforcements the Giants have brought in to strengthen an already potent defensive line." Jerry Reese basically said they would take Burress back if he isn't in jail as well.
As though the Giants' moves and the Eagles lack of moves exist in their own little vacuums...
The Giants/Cowboys/taterskins making moves have an impact on the Eagles 6 games a year. Sure Eagles fans should be worried about their moves. That doesn't happen completely independent of the fans being worried about the Eagles lack of moves. What a jackass.
They think they are Jedi's with the mind tricks but really are not.
Its the classic OMG the Giants/Cowboys added big time WR....we must pick up defenders to combat that move but NEVER EVER make a move like that ourselves!
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 04, 2009, 09:17:44 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 04, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 04, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
the one thing I really agree with is "If you're an Eagles fan, you should be more concerned right now with the free agent reinforcements the Giants have brought in to strengthen an already potent defensive line." Jerry Reese basically said they would take Burress back if he isn't in jail as well.
As though the Giants' moves and the Eagles lack of moves exist in their own little vacuums...
The Giants/Cowboys/taterskins making moves have an impact on the Eagles 6 games a year. Sure Eagles fans should be worried about their moves. That doesn't happen completely independent of the fans being worried about the Eagles lack of moves. What a jackass.
They think they are Jedi's with the mind tricks but really are not.
Its the classic OMG the Giants/Cowboys added big time WR....we must pick up defenders to combat that move but NEVER EVER make a move like that ourselves!
probably why the birds were 2-4 in the division last year
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 04, 2009, 06:52:37 PM
pretty sure Andrews contract is bigger than that
Not per year. Warner probably got an offer from one of the teams he visited and went back to the Cardinals. Except even the cheap cards upped their offer, but the Eagles couldn't budge from 2/5 million.
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
I never even knew 6 time Pro-Bowler C Matt Birk from the Vikings was available for the Ravens to scoop
damn shame...I wish the Eagles hated J.Jackson as much as I do
WHy would you hate Jamaal Jackson?
He's not terrible. Nowhere near hate level.
Quote from: bowzer on March 04, 2009, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 04, 2009, 06:52:37 PM
pretty sure Andrews contract is bigger than that
Not per year. Warner probably got an offer from one of the teams he visited and went back to the Cardinals. Except even the cheap cards upped their offer, but the Eagles couldn't budge from 2/5 million.
From every account, the Eagles were never given a chance to match. So, no point.
That's the thing though; he should have been locked up before the FA period started.
Without a doubt, you're right... just pointing out something reported as fact.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
I never even knew 6 time Pro-Bowler C Matt Birk from the Vikings was available for the Ravens to scoop
damn shame...I wish the Eagles hated J.Jackson as much as I do
WHy would you hate Jamaal Jackson?
He's not terrible. Nowhere near hate level.
I dont have to go into the overall run game explanation plus his 3rd and short blow-ups
but every time I watch him he is getting torched off the ball like a little bitch. He made the average opposing defensive lineman look way too good..not to mention when there was pressure on Mcnabb it was usually coming up the gut
theres a reason when the Eagles do decide to run its usually off-tackle. I would like to see an upgrade at that position...but I know it wont be happening unless they pull an Eagles special
no hes not...hes a fine center...not a pro bowler but average when compared to the rest of the league...like phreak said not near worthy of hate
Quote from: Father Demon on March 04, 2009, 10:02:44 PM
Without a doubt, you're right... just pointing out something reported as fact.
I feel ya...and apparently Dawk contradicted the fact and said they went back to the Birds 3x and were told, in Joey B fashion, that they could go pound sand.
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2009, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
I never even knew 6 time Pro-Bowler C Matt Birk from the Vikings was available for the Ravens to scoop
damn shame...I wish the Eagles hated J.Jackson as much as I do
WHy would you hate Jamaal Jackson?
He's not terrible. Nowhere near hate level.
I dont have to go into the overall run game explanation plus his 3rd and short blow-ups
but every time I watch him he is getting torched off the ball like a little bitch. He made the average opposing defensive lineman look way too good..not to mention when there was pressure on Mcnabb it was usually coming up the gut
theres a reason when the Eagles do decide to run its usually off-tackle. I would like to see an upgrade at that position...but I know it wont be happening unless they pull an Eagles special
He's a pretty big guy, bigger than normal I'd say for a C. He'd get blown up here and there, but nowhere as much as Fraley got smoked.
Hank wasn't fast enough to slide over nor was he able to take on the mammoth NT's.
I like Jackson, he's serviceable and above average IMO.
Quotenot a pro bowler but average when compared to the rest of the league...like phreak said not near worthy of hate
last time I checked average doesnt cut it in this league and competition usually rolls in to challenge your spot
if there are better than average centers out there that means there is upgrade potential...and there was
hes average compared to the rest of the league...how does that not cut it?
eagles dont have a position that cant be upgraded...point is center is about the least of their worries
QuoteThey're going to draft and kick butt there to complete the roster. They're keeping their eyes on things and angling for trades and such, and they made sign a free agent or two as a backup, but the draft is where the focus is right now. The Eagles went out and got their guy in free agency. They have 11 draft picks
From Spads...
So I guess that's it, boys and girls.
is it alright to root for your team to go 0-16? nothing will change unless something catastrophically bad happens.
QuoteThey're going to draft and kick butt there to complete the roster.
that is effing hilarious
Hilariously sad.
Putting all your stock into the draft.
Sigh...
Quote from: King Cole on March 04, 2009, 11:13:40 PM
Putting all your stock into the draft.
Sigh...
sound like they arent putting any such thing into it...they are going to kick butt and they know it
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2009, 10:29:44 PM
QuoteThey're going to draft and kick butt there to complete the roster. They're keeping their eyes on things and angling for trades and such, and they made sign a free agent or two as a backup, but the draft is where the focus is right now. The Eagles went out and got their guy in free agency. They have 11 draft picks
From Spads...
So I guess that's it, boys and girls.
They are going to trade all 11 draft picks for Jason Smith, who will promptly bust.
TO's available :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2009, 12:07:23 AM
TO's available :-D
Wow, rofl. $12 million bonus last year. And they couldn't even trade him for anything? And after trading away their 1 and 3 for one of the Roy Williams'? Ha. Thanks dallas and TO for the good times. Farg dallas.
PFT had this jerruh blurb
QuoteIn late February, Cowboys team owner Jerry Jones issued this comment when asked about Owens' possible release: "That [Cowboys vice president and Jones' son] Stephen [Jones] and I were debating about Terrell, that's just misinformation. That's just not accurate. I don't know where that comes from. That's just total misinformation."
just goes to show you how impulsive he is because it does "sound" true that he said that
regardless I think he'll find out the hard way that the giving away of a 1st and 3rd for R. Williams will be a waste as well. There was a reason he didn't catch hardly any balls and it wasn't because of TO or Witten-he just couldn't get open-- and was criticized heavily for it by nfl analysts.
there's def room from 11 rookies on the roster.
Quote from: hunt on March 05, 2009, 09:36:03 AM
there's def room from 11 rookies on the roster.
They better cut some more people, then. They need room for another 4-5 undrafted rookies.
Wait, they haven't signed the white guy with an average skillset yet!
Agreed. They need a replacement for Considine.
Holt is asking to be released by the Rams.
QuoteThey're going to draft and kick butt there to complete the roster.
To get the team back to the 9-6-1 level they were 3 months ago.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 05, 2009, 10:53:33 AM
Holt is asking to be released by the Rams.
I really like the idea of bringing Holt in. Is he a stud? No. But he has played with Curtis before, and Jackson could learn some stuff by watching him. Avant can still be Mr. 3rd down, and Baskett can be a situational guy as always. Basically, they'd be replacing Greg Lewis with Holt. Why not?
Because the Cowboys or taterskins will pay him more?
Quote from: General_Failure on March 05, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Because the Cowboys or taterskins will pay him more?
Good point.
The Rams havn't been competitive for how many years now...not a good way to judge a guy like Holt who before was top 5 receiver in the league when he had a QB and an offense. I'll take Holt in a heart beat.
He's older than God and not a single one of us has any idea if he has anything left in the tank.
And yes, I would still applaud the signing.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 05, 2009, 11:33:41 AM
He's older than God and not a single one of us has any idea if he has anything left in the tank.
So you're saying the Rams should have allowed him to retire with the team.
Right, but Holt's prime years have passed him by regardless. He would be an addition, not a solution.
What if they get Holt and then TO? Should they just sign an elephant and some clowns too?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 05, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
What if they get Holt and then TO? Should they just sign an elephant and some clowns too?
You mean the head coach and front office? ZING!
Quote from: General_Failure on March 05, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 05, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
What if they get Holt and then TO? Should they just sign an elephant and some clowns too?
You mean the head coach and front office? ZING!
Did I place that ball on the tee well enough for you?
I suspect you did your best with it.
GET HOLT.
GE99 gets his time to shine on PE.com (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=17503)
Spads waxes poetic on TO (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=17502&spadaro=1)
"Who would want to play with him, daddy?"
My son is 12 and hasn't called me daddy in about 7 years. My wife on the other hand.............................
I really wish Spadaro nothing but pain and suffering.
Yet another reason to root for TO to return.
Is that "Matrix" avatar still available?
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/05/eagles-trade-wr-lewis-to-patriots/
Greg Lewis going for the ring.
Quote from: paco on March 05, 2009, 03:43:10 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/05/eagles-trade-wr-lewis-to-patriots/
Lewis going for the ring.
Now there is some room at #5 on the depth chart for TO.
What in the farg could they possibly get for Greg Lewis?
On second thought, who cares. He isn't an Eagle any more. Joy.
Belichek has always loved this guy and always been afraid of him...maybe he will become a superstar now!
Boy, they sure are ready to sink their teeth into this draft aren't they.
they'll miss g-lew. small, slow receivers with poor hands don't grow on trees.
Who will injure themselves in warm-ups prior to playoff games, still try to play and let passes go right through his hands?
Bye FastGreggie.
i now consider this offseason a success.
QuoteThe Eagles dealt Lewis on Thursday to New England along with an undisclosed draft pick in 2010 in return for an undisclosed pick in this year's draft.
There goes the FO - trading the future at all costs to try to win now!
Also, great nugget:
QuoteWith Lewis' departure, there are only five players on the Eagles roster who played in Super Bowl XXXIX - David Akers, Sheldon Brown, Donovan McNabb, Quintin Mikell and Brian Westbrook.
They had to pay someone to take Greggie.
Greg and a 6th in 2010 for a 7th in 2009?
lmfao the Eagles got a 5th rounder.
bahahaha
Quote from: King Cole on March 05, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
lmfao the Eagles got a 5th rounder.
bahahaha
and almost definitely had to give up a 2010 6th, or maybe even a 5th
Awesome, now they can draft another QB.
Quote from: King Cole on March 05, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
lmfao the Eagles got a 5th rounder.
bahahaha
Wow... the Patriots are getting ripped off left and right this offseason.
Did they have to give up a second in 2010?
7th speculated.
950 said it was the Eagles 2010 7th rounder + Glew for the Pats 2009 5th rounder. Highway robbery.
The Patriots are so arrogant it's almost like they are giving other teams a head start this offseason. Lewis wasn't worth a bag of practice footballs. Best move of the offseason.
How many 5th round picks do the Eagles have now? 2? 3?
THREE 5TH ROUND PICKS FOR BOLDIN!
this is how desperate eagles fans are for good news that trading a 7th for a 5th is seen as robbery...patriots traded a garbage pick for a guy to replace jabar gaffney...its much ado about nothing...plus they have three #2's
I know this is late, but going to kick butt in the draft?? When have they ever?? They've had more bust than any team other than the Skins or Lions?
Pats expecting to meet the Birds in the next SB?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 05, 2009, 05:58:16 PMHow many 5th round picks do the Eagles have now? 2? 3?
Four (their own, Cleveland's, NY Jets' and New England's)
With the Carolina 1st and Minnesota 6th, they now have 12 picks...
Quote from: shorebird on March 05, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
I know this is late, but going to kick butt in the draft?? When have they ever?? They've had more bust than any team other than the Skins or Lions?
They're REALLY hoping their midterm grades will pull up their average!
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 05, 2009, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: shorebird on March 05, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
I know this is late, but going to kick butt in the draft?? When have they ever?? They've had more bust than any team other than the Skins or Lions?
They're REALLY hoping their midterm grades will pull up their average!
FastFlounder!
Can not wait for all the average no talent high motor locker room saints they draft.
Holy crap...4 fifth rounders? :boom
They could package all them bad boys up to get 4 fourth rounders next year.
Honestly, this is the happiest i've been all offseason
Pats did just fine in this trade.
All I know is, I want some of what the farg it is that friggen' spudaro is on. Gonna' kick butt in the draft. Yeah..... and I'm piloting the space shuttle in it's next orbital flight.
PE.com nearly made me shtein my pants with an article entitled "Mr. Cole goes to Washington."
Does Washington even have a 5th round pick to trade?
QuoteLatest News and Rumors
MCFADDEN TALKING WITH FOUR TEAMS
Posted by Mike Florio on March 6, 2009, 11:03 p.m.
A week into free agency, cornerback Bryant McFadden still doesn't have a new home.
Per a league source, McFadden hopes to make a decision soon.
Four teams are in the running: the Steelers, Cardinals, Dolphins, and Eagles.
McFadden, a four-year veteran, appeared in ten regular-season games and started eight of them in 2008. He also started all three postseason games, including Super Bowl XLIII.
I'm confused...why would they want him and why would he want to come here?
Unless there is smoke to the possible trading of Brown fire.
Right now they have three corners who can play at an NFL level for sure. You usually need four.
So we're in the age of playing dime corners upwards of 20-mil?
Rookie job.
Tra to the Jags....3-yr deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3963930)
Looks like Todd at LT
McNabb's scrambling will be needed
So we've got Manneans or Shawn "Big Depression" Andrews watching McNabb's back? Awesome.
It's all part of the plan.
Eben Britton. Prepare for it... :-\
two captains gone...yeah eagles!
I thought Tra was gone like a week ago LOL
we didnt know it but tra was gone the second pass interference wasnt called on curtis
Good call, Eagles.
They're chock full o' good personnel decisions lately.
Idiots
I heard somewhere that Tra's play had actually declined and that the Eagles were chipping with backs and/or using a lot of TEs on his side of the line to not leave him 1-on-1. It seemed to me that the majorirty of non-coverage sacks came from the left side and i can remember quite a few that Tra just got ran around or "blocked down" allowing a free rush. If you think about it, most runs where to the right....away from Tra and towards Runyan who could really only move one way due to his "bum" bum. To me, that kind of says something...
Everyone seems to be complaining about them letting this vet go and that vet go. And don't get me wrong, Dawkins is my favorite Eagle of all time and he's the one I'm most upset about. I wish he would have retired a bird and played his whole career with them. But bith that said, play does start to decline when you get to a certain age. It's just that the Eagles are replacing 3 starting veterans in one off-season, which isn't the norm or something we're used to. Dawk went for the $$$, and you can't blame him. That's what makes the FO a target. Yet I don't think anyone would have made him the highest paid safety in the league and I wouldn't have resigned him for what he got. No one knows the "true" story about the back and forth between the Eagles FO and Dawkins' agent. People lie and I think in this case, that was done on both sides. It's just like when the Sixers traded away Chuck for a few trash cans...the fans lose and it's easier to blame the FO and the money people then the player. Just like I cheered for the Suns back then, I'll be cheering for Denver now expect when they play the Birds. I'm preparted to get blasted, but you have to think that people who study game tape and develop the schemes know more about player performance then what the FOX cameramen show us.
Manneans has played well at LT when Tra was out with his back, and I think Shawn will be back to playing at a pro-bowl level. I'm holding out my bitching until the draft and they trade both 1st round picks away....I personally want to see them get Pettigrew and a RB with those first 2 picks...and then go OL & CB/S with the rest of your picks.
Shawn Andrews has obviously been told that they would like him to play LT. Stacy Andrews is obviously in at RT. Herremans and Jackson will stay put, and MJG and Cole will have a scintillating camp battle for the RG spot.
Quote from: mikey418 on March 09, 2009, 01:15:53 PM
I heard somewhere that Tra's play had actually declined and that the Eagles were chipping with backs and/or using a lot of TEs on his side of the line to not leave him 1-on-1. It seemed to me that the majorirty of non-coverage sacks came from the left side and i can remember quite a few that Tra just got ran around or "blocked down" allowing a free rush. If you think about it, most runs where to the right....away from Tra and towards Runyan who could really only move one way due to his "bum" bum. To me, that kind of says something...
Everyone seems to be complaining about them letting this vet go and that vet go. And don't get me wrong, Dawkins is my favorite Eagle of all time and he's the one I'm most upset about. I wish he would have retired a bird and played his whole career with them. But bith that said, play does start to decline when you get to a certain age. It's just that the Eagles are replacing 3 starting veterans in one off-season, which isn't the norm or something we're used to. Dawk went for the $$$, and you can't blame him. That's what makes the FO a target. Yet I don't think anyone would have made him the highest paid safety in the league and I wouldn't have resigned him for what he got. No one knows the "true" story about the back and forth between the Eagles FO and Dawkins' agent. People lie and I think in this case, that was done on both sides. It's just like when the Sixers traded away Chuck for a few trash cans...the fans lose and it's easier to blame the FO and the money people then the player. Just like I cheered for the Suns back then, I'll be cheering for Denver now expect when they play the Birds. I'm preparted to get blasted, but you have to think that people who study game tape and develop the schemes know more about player performance then what the FOX cameramen show us.
i personally would have resigned tra because with the money they have and the money he required it was a no lose situation...however im not going to lose sleep over the FO not retaining him or bash them for it...but....rather than "hear" whether he played well last year or not you might wanna kinda actually watch the games and you would have saw that he has a very good year
as for dawk being the highest paid safety...thats not true either...he wont even make the franchise number for safties much less be the highest paid in the league
Not that the franchise number for safeties comes close to the money paid to some other positions.
Quoteas for dawk being the highest paid safety...thats not true either...he wont even make the franchise number for safties much less be the highest paid in the league
wrong--Dawkins got offered 7.5 million which is more than 20 percent above the average of the five highest paid safeties in the NFL
IGY - I did watch the games and did see Tra get beat....more than the rest of the line. I remember him blocking down quite a few times and letting the end go free or him just getting ran around.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 09, 2009, 01:37:14 PM
Not that the franchise number for safeties comes close to the money paid to some other positions.
true...its a little over six million for S
dawk is basically being paid 9 mil for two years
Dawk is making 7.5 this season....
Quote from: mikey418 on March 09, 2009, 01:42:26 PM
IGY - I did watch the games and did see Tra get beat....more than the rest of the line. I remember him blocking down quite a few times and letting the end go free or him just getting ran around.
my bad but you said you "heard" he didnt have that good of a year as if you werent sure or didnt watch
anyway i respectively disagree then...did he give up a couple sacks sure but he overall played very well...better than runyan imo (at pass protection)...tra has never been a good run blocker
Quote from: mikey418 on March 09, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
Dawk is making 7.5 this season....
youre counting sb money...6+ mil is the average
base salary of the top 5 safties...if you include bonus and guaranteed money its much higher
And Runyan was playing through an injury that limited him....and just about everyone knew it. Tra didn't give up that many sacks since McNabb is one of the best at moving in the pocket...but I think McNabb got more pressure from that side of the line then anywhere else. I'd love to see the numbers of what side of the line gave up more "hurries", along with the sack numbers.
Tra played fine last season.
What I don't get is why not re-sign the guy and let him know it's his job to lose. Draft or try Herremans/Andrews out at LT and go from there. Would it really hurt to have a veteran T on the squad? Cap money isn't the issue because I doubt the Jags broke the bank for him.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2009, 01:55:07 PM
Tra played fine last season.
What I don't get is why not re-sign the guy and let him know it's his job to lose. Draft or try Herremans/Andrews out at LT and go from there. Would it really hurt to have a veteran T on the squad? Cap money isn't the issue because I doubt the Jags broke the bank for him.
there is no logical reason...the more i think about it the more i wonder if jeffeee is getting his ass eaten by the stock market...he was never a very rich owner even in the good times
But you couldn't sign Tra to a deal that would allow him to "sit" if he lost the job. That's one trend in the NFL that is going to come up in the CBA (rookie contract caps). Veterans, like Tra, are losing roster spots since so much money is being invested in draft picks, much of which never pain out. Because of that, teams look for cheaper or younger alternatives with possible more upside.
Point is, it would have been hard to bring Tra back at a number that he was comfortable with, and one that would have allowed it to be a truely "open" competition.
He bought the team for $175 million, they're worth close to or over $1 billion now, he has a huge asset and multiple streams of money so it shouldn't be an issue...maybe he got ponzi schemed too.
Maybe he should make another movie. I hear comic book movies are popular these days. I wonder if there's any players on the team that like comic books, they could totally have that player in a buddy action movie.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
He bought the team for $175 million, they're worth close to or over $1 billion now, he has a huge asset and multiple streams of money so it shouldn't be an issue...maybe he got ponzi schemed too.
Lurie's losing their ass with Uncle Bernie? I could totally see that, but it probably would have been out by now if it was substantial...
Quote from: mikey418 on March 09, 2009, 02:02:38 PM
But you couldn't sign Tra to a deal that would allow him to "sit" if he lost the job. That's one trend in the NFL that is going to come up in the CBA (rookie contract caps). Veterans, like Tra, are losing roster spots since so much money is being invested in draft picks, much of which never pain out. Because of that, teams look for cheaper or younger alternatives with possible more upside.
Point is, it would have been hard to bring Tra back at a number that he was comfortable with, and one that would have allowed it to be a truely "open" competition.
there already is a rookie salary cap...the eagles are 40 mil under the cap the % of that going to rookies still leaves them with a ton of money...now im not saying they absolutely should have signed both but theres not even close to a valid reason why they couldnt have signed dawk and tra money wise
and why couldnt have tra come back and lost his job?...eagles have never been shy about benching people who they say cant play regardless of experience or money...if tra doesnt win a job in camp do the eagle shave to pay him extra?...
also its not as if the eagles have some solid plan b for tra...i mean where is his stiff competition for his spot were he to have come back
So with Dawk and Tra gone this is officially Andy's team. Amazing to think how much of Reids early success should be credited to Ray Rhodes; Dawk, Tra, Vincent, Taylor, Duce, Trotter, Hugh, Mayberry, Ike. Now, the last pillars that Rhodes set in place are gone.
Anyone taking over/unders on how soon this team totally down the shteinter and Reid retires/gets fired?
I will say 3 more seasons and take the under.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on March 09, 2009, 02:25:08 PM
So with Dawk and Tra gone this is officially Andy's team. Amazing to think how much of Reids early success should be credited to Ray Rhodes; Dawk, Vincent, Taylor, Duce, Trotter, Hugh, Mayberry, Ike. Now, the last pillars that Rhodes set in place are gone.
excellent point...one i was making even in 2004 when there wasnt a single voice criticizing big red and everyone was calling him a genius..but the better question might be what happens when mcnabb is gone...granted andy gets big credit for taking donovan but it will be interesting to see how having one of the better qb's in the league has kept his team afloat in a horrible conference
I cant believe LJ Smith is still out there--what the hell happened to this guy
this dude was being talked about and touted as as a tier 1 TE two or three years ago and now nathanson--unreal
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
He bought the team for $175 million, they're worth close to or over $1 billion now, he has a huge asset and multiple streams of money so it shouldn't be an issue...maybe he got ponzi schemed too.
While I highly doubt that Lurie's cash flow is the reason they didn't re-sign Tra Thomas, keep in mind that the value of the team is meaningless unless he takes a loan out on it or sells off ownership shares.
he hasn't done shtein the past 2 years and hasn't had much of a career to speak of and you can't believe he hasn't signed yet?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on March 09, 2009, 02:25:08 PM
So with Dawk and Tra gone this is officially Andy's team. Amazing to think how much of Reids early success should be credited to Ray Rhodes; Dawk, Vincent, Taylor, Duce, Trotter, Hugh, Mayberry, Ike. Now, the last pillars that Rhodes set in place are gone.
but the better question might be what happens when mcnabb is gone
McNabb is gone. This season is just a formality.
Quote from: SunMo on March 09, 2009, 02:53:22 PM
he hasn't done shtein the past 2 years and hasn't had much of a career to speak of and you can't believe he hasn't signed yet?
dood he was supposed to be tier 1
They passed on Witten to draft L.J.
And if they were not able to trade up to "snag" McDougle, they would have drafted L.J. in the 1st round.
I'm just saying...
Quote from: SunMo on March 09, 2009, 02:53:22 PM
he hasn't done shtein the past 2 years and hasn't had much of a career to speak of and you can't believe he hasn't signed yet?
yes thats exactly what Im saying...and stop acting like you hated him from day 1
sure he had injuries that cost him these past couple of years but its not like this guy is the scrub of all scrub TE's...and to be still out there this far into FA coming from a solid team is what Im saying
Tra played very well last season.
Re-re-re-re-reeeeeebuildingggggg!
phreaks upset
ive never seen him like this towards the birds and im worried about him
Don't worry...I have doubted some of their moves over the years, but optimism always kicks in as the season gets closer. But each year since 2005's disastrous offseason, with them resting on the SB berth and only signing that Alfred E Newman farg at QB has caused me to doubt more each year. This current off-season has been the breaking point for me.
I wonder about Reid's clout with the team too. Prior to FA starting he said they were going to bring back Dawk and Tra. But they both end up leaving.
I hoped Lurie would have stepped into the Dawk negotiations, and it appears he did, but only when it was too late.
With Heckert basically being sent to the basement with an old projector and some tapes, Reid saying they would sign the guys and nothing happening (I read he did not attend the Jones PC either) I wonder if they have neutered him too.
This is a nightmare scenario if true....Reid is a football guy. He makes dumb choices, but at least he knows the game. To my eye, with Roseman and Banner now the top dogs, it looks like we have to deal with idiots who aren't football guys callin' shots.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 09, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
They passed on Witten to draft L.J.
And if they were not able to trade up to "snag" McDougle, they would have drafted L.J. in the 1st round.
:boom X 10 trillion. I forgot they were both part of the same draft.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
Don't worry...I have doubted some of their moves over the years, but optimism always kicks in as the season gets closer. But each year since 2005's disastrous offseason, with them resting on the SB berth and only signing that Alfred E Newman farg at QB has caused me to doubt more each year. This current off-season has been the breaking point for me.
I wonder about Reid's clout with the team too. Prior to FA starting he said they were going to bring back Dawk and Tra. But they both end up leaving.
I hoped Lurie would have stepped into the Dawk negotiations, and it appears he did, but only when it was too late.
With Heckert basically being sent to the basement with an old projector and some tapes, Reid saying they would sign the guys and nothing happening (I read he did not attend the Jones PC either) I wonder if they have neutered him too.
This is a nightmare scenario if true....Reid is a football guy. He makes dumb choices, but at least he knows the game. To my eye, with Roseman and Banner now the top dogs, it looks like we have to deal with idiots who aren't football guys callin' shots.
yep...i was telling one of my boys last week that it appears as if banner is playing fantasy football with a real live team...luries silence thru all this (especially the dawk fiasco) has been unacceptable
Pretty much.
Banner is Snyder Lite...playing fantasy football, but with someone else's cash.
Time for Lurie to wake up and take some power away from his boy. Not gonna happen, and because of that neither will a Lombardi trophy.
Eagles claimed RB Eldra Buckley off waivers from the Chargers.
thats what im talking about
Buck is back, beyotches!!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2009, 04:39:12 PM
yep...i was telling one of my boys last week that it appears as if banner is playing fantasy football with a real live team...luries silence thru all this (especially the dawk fiasco) has been unacceptable
I was thinking the same thing. It all adds up. Reid says they will re-sign Dawk and Tra and then the next day Banner comes out and basically says this isn't true. Reports came out that Reid called Dawk and begged him to come back, then Banner comes out and says they wouldn't have matched.
It would certainly appear Banner has more control these days over Reid, which if true would be the worst decision in Eagles history. They've made bad ones, but making an accountant and his assistant personnel guys is laughable and a travesty.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2009, 05:25:24 PM
Buck is back, beyotches!
Bunk meet Buck, Buck meet Bunk. Both of you meet 7-9.
Where the farg did Joe Banner even come from?
Quote from: Don Ho on March 09, 2009, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2009, 05:25:24 PM
Buck is back, beyotches!
Bunk meet Buck, Buck meet Bunk. Both of you meet 7-9.
wonder if new buck meets blunts like old buck
Quote from: bowzer on March 09, 2009, 07:55:11 PM
Where the farg did Joe Banner even come from?
lurie childhood friend
Joey B did some news radio, I think. And then was in the men's clothing biz. No bullshtein.
Which is odd, since all his suits come from the business casual section of Kids R Us.
QuoteAnd then was in the men's clothing biz.
I think that's how Braman made his first money too
Local report:
T. Holt: wants to go to a contender. reports of interest from Ravens, Titans, Panthers, Giants.
and
Holt and Little may both be released soon.
come 8 days if Holt hits the open market the Eagles are swazy
mid-rounders or bust
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
QuoteAnd then was in the men's clothing biz.
I think that's how Braman made his first money too
cars
Car bras?
farg Leonard Little. farger should be in jail. Twice.
John Clayton on Mike&Mike this morning seems to think the Eagles are "poised to make a move soon" due to their large number under the cap and such. Brought up trading for Anquan or the Bills LT.
Hah. Ha ha ha.
Getting Jason Peters would be awesome.
Peters had an awful year. He gave up like 10 sacks or so. Sure he was good the years before that, but is it a lock he automatically reverts back to that level? Are you sure enough to give away a great draft pick?
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2009, 05:51:56 PM
Peters had an awful year. He gave up like 10 sacks or so. Sure he was good the years before that, but is it a lock he automatically reverts back to that level? Are you sure enough to give away a great draft pick?
Yes. Pretty sure the Eagles are going to farg up all their picks anyway.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 09, 2009, 10:37:33 PM
Local report:
T. Holt: wants to go to a contender. reports of interest from Ravens, Titans, Panthers, Giants.
and
Holt and Little may both be released soon.
Little released today.
And yeah, fat farg should be in jail. I'm continually amazed that he still has hero status in this town...
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2009, 05:51:56 PM
Peters had an awful year. He gave up like 10 sacks or so. Sure he was good the years before that, but is it a lock he automatically reverts back to that level? Are you sure enough to give away a great draft pick?
Didnt Stacy give up 9? Seems like a Eagles type of player.
And LMAO@Clayton. So the Eagles are now going to make moves? When the top FAs are already signed and when any big move would involve blockbuster trades in which the Eagles will have to give up picks? Yeah ok keep dreaming.
I'd be much more worried about not only trading away a first rounder, and signing the player to a huge contract, PLUS having him on the most important part of your line than the Andrews signing. Andrews got a very small signing bonus. He could be let go if worst comes to worst at very little cost.
Peters is wanting to be paid as a top 5 LT I believe, plus you give up a first rounder. I say hell no to that and I take my chances in the draft or with Herremans.
eagles arent giving up a first rounder for him so just pump your brakes and they have more money than god so that shouldnt be a concern no matter who they sign...in short just stop talking
If they aren't giving up a first rounder, then they aren't getting him. That is the asking price.
No way in hell does he get dealt for a first. No way the birds offer a first, i dont think they'd use a 5th in the hopes of drafting Mike Mcglynn again
Peters was a teammate of Shawn Andrews at Arkansas
The Rams cut Pace.
Sign him.
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2009, 07:57:43 PM
If they aren't giving up a first rounder, then they aren't getting him.
lol...have they said they wanted him?
Thomas > Pace
You idiots suck at sarcasm.
Not sure how legit this is, but supposedly Leonard Weaver is deciding between the Eagles and Bucs (http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/3/10/788965/clayton-eagles-to-make-off)
Is weaver any good?
Decent blocker and can catch and run
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/10/26/2008314640.jpg)
(http://s.wsj.net/media/seahawks_art_257_20071113124509.jpg)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 10, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Not sure how legit this is, but supposedly Leonard Weaver is deciding between the Eagles and Bucs (http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/3/10/788965/clayton-eagles-to-make-off)
In
plese tell me that's michael lewis trying to get him :-D
Quote from: Don Ho on March 10, 2009, 09:44:13 PMplese tell me that's michael lewis trying to get him
that's Patrick Willis I think
Quote from: Diomedes on March 10, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on March 10, 2009, 09:44:13 PMplese tell me that's michael lewis trying to get him
that's Patrick Willis I think
You are going to play this off as sarcasm, aren't you?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2009, 06:20:49 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 09, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
QuoteAnd then was in the men's clothing biz.
I think that's how Braman made his first money too
cars
He did make a crapload of money in cars but his first million came from a retail chain he started called Bargaintown USA
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090311_Eagles_-_Fullback_deal_could_be_in_the_works_for_Eagles.html)
QuoteFullback deal could be in the works for Eagles
By LES BOWEN
Philadelphia Daily News
bowenl@phillynews.com
One of the mysteries of free agency thus far is that the Eagles haven't done anything to address their fullback situation.
That mystery might be getting closer to being solved.
Harold Lewis, agent for ex-Seattle free-agent fullback Leonard Weaver, confirmed last night that he is talking to the Birds about a deal for his client.
"We're still in talks with the Eagles, and with a few other teams," Lewis said. "Hopefully, we're going to get something done [in Philadelphia], but it would be premature to tell you that."
Weaver, 26, might be too good to be true, from the perspective of fans who have long hungered for a power running option. He's a fullback who can actually carry the ball here and there - 30 times for 130 yards last season, while catching 20 passes for 222 yards. At 6-0, 242, he has played fullback and halfback in an offense very similar to what the Eagles run.
Before free agency started, many observers felt the Eagles might have interest in Weaver - probably the best fullback on the market - given his age and potential. It was a mild surprise nothing happened early, but the first days of free agency tend to be for big-money deals, and fullback is not a big-money position.
Terms for Tra?
Something called jocklife.com says it has obtained the terms of Tra Thomas' contract in Jacksonville. The site says the former Eagles left offensive tackle will make $2.5 million to $3 million per year for 3 years, with the chance to make $4.5 million to $5 million if the incentives are triggered. *
I love the idea of bringing in a real FB in theory. In reality he will only see about 18% of the offensive snaps, be incredibly effective and vastly underused and I will still want to urinate in Andy Reid's eye sockets after every game.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 10, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on March 09, 2009, 10:37:33 PM
Local report:
T. Holt: wants to go to a contender. reports of interest from Ravens, Titans, Panthers, Giants.
and
Holt and Little may both be released soon.
Little released today.
And yeah, fat farg should be in jail. I'm continually amazed that he still has hero status in this town...
Premature news release. Little hasn't been released yet. Huge news, I know.
weaver is a fullback who hasnt quite mastered the art of blocking...pretty sure hes a converted TE and thats why reid is looking at him to catch the ball...since we know he isnt going to be running many sets out of the power eye
ill take him tho...even a hint that reid is taking the position seriously is good enough for me and i had no idea he was only 26...he still has a lot of time to get better
Quote from: Diomedes on March 10, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on March 10, 2009, 09:44:13 PMplese tell me that's michael lewis trying to get him
that's Patrick Willis I think
I thought it was Charlie Murphy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2009, 08:17:17 AM
weaver is a fullback who hasnt quite mastered the art of blocking...pretty sure hes a converted TE and thats why reid is looking at him to catch the ball...since we know he isnt going to be running many sets out of the power eye
ill take him tho...even a hint that reid is taking the position seriously is good enough for me and i had no idea he was only 26...he still has a lot of time to get better
He reminds me a bit of Stanley Pritchett (with a mean streak)
Nasty Stiff Arm 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8TlNtrpQ6s&feature=related)
Nasty Stiff Arm 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZ695sfUiU&feature=related)
Ill pay double to see Andy Reid run a FB off-tackle like that
bring this guy in...NOW
I'd love the move. There's no legitimate reason not to get it done: they have tons of money, it's a clear position of need and even the highest-paid fullbacks don't take that much cap space. It would be embarrassing not to get it done.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2009, 09:40:22 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2009, 08:17:17 AM
weaver is a fullback who hasnt quite mastered the art of blocking...pretty sure hes a converted TE and thats why reid is looking at him to catch the ball...since we know he isnt going to be running many sets out of the power eye
ill take him tho...even a hint that reid is taking the position seriously is good enough for me and i had no idea he was only 26...he still has a lot of time to get better
He reminds me a bit of Stanley Pritchett (with a mean streak)
Nasty Stiff Arm 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8TlNtrpQ6s&feature=related)
Nasty Stiff Arm 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZ695sfUiU&feature=related)
being that hes a former te hes really athletic for a fullback...if he can improve on his blocking they might have something...if he signs of course
I had no idea he was 26 either. He's better than anything they have, anyone who is available, and likely anyone in the draft in terms of an immediate impact, so I don't see how it can hurt.
does anyone know if this guy is a former TE converted FB who might need to improve his blocking?
I know of a former DT converted to FB who might need to improve his blocking
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2009, 11:56:34 AM
I know of a former DT converted to FB who might need to improve his blocking
i know of one that should go into the construction business
Eagles signed former Oaklnad Raiders S Rashad Baker to a one-year contract.
he had 3 int's last year....looks like a replacement for Considine
CAMDEN CRAZIES STAND UP!
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 11, 2009, 10:43:41 AM
I had no idea he was 26 either. He's better than anything they have, anyone who is available, and likely anyone in the draft in terms of an immediate impact, so I don't see how it can hurt.
That's why it's not gonna happen...duh! :boom
Quote from: reese125 on March 11, 2009, 02:30:49 PM
Eagles signed former Oaklnad Raiders S Rashad Baker to a one-year contract.
he had 3 int's last year....looks like a replacement for Considine
Super Bowl
Oaklnad!
was on the Vols w/ Gaither. oh noez, does Omar have teh depression too?
Report: Boldin Will Not Be A Cardinal By July
Peter King of SI.com reports the Eagles and Giants, two receiver-needy teams, are in position to deal for Anquan Boldin, who I continue to say will not be a Cardinal by July. Philly has 21, 28 and 53, the Giants 29, 45 and 60. I find it hard to believe the Eagles won't trade for Boldin. Very hard. He's a perfect fit, and they've got the cap room to sign him.
http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442 (http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442)
Manning to Boldin for years to come. Awesome.
you're forgetting that they re-signed Hanson. Check. Mate.
Quote from: cmleary0919 on March 11, 2009, 04:13:23 PM
Report: Boldin Will Not Be A Cardinal By July
Peter King of SI.com reports the Eagles and Giants, two receiver-needy teams, are in position to deal for Anquan Boldin, who I continue to say will not be a Cardinal by July. Philly has 21, 28 and 53, the Giants 29, 45 and 60. I find it hard to believe the Eagles won't trade for Boldin. Very hard. He's a perfect fit, and they've got the cap room to sign him.
http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442 (http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442)
I'm torn between drooling and sporting a huge boner.
I think I'll go with boner.
Quote from: cmleary0919 on March 11, 2009, 04:13:23 PM
Report: Boldin Will Not Be A Cardinal By July
Peter King of SI.com reports the Eagles and Giants, two receiver-needy teams, are in position to deal for Anquan Boldin, who I continue to say will not be a Cardinal by July. Philly has 21, 28 and 53, the Giants 29, 45 and 60. I find it hard to believe the Eagles won't trade for Boldin. Very hard. He's a perfect fit, and they've got the cap room to sign him.
http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442 (http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=442)
he starts off by saying REPORT as if it came off the reuters wire or something...then he cites peter king...but not because king says boldin will be moved to the eagles or giants but that the eagles and giants 'are in position' to get boldin.....ie the eagles have two ones and the giants have a plethora of d lineman...neither of these facts are a secret to anyone...then he says "I continue to say he wont be a cardinal"...who the farg are you exactly?
blogs are the worst
i made over a dollar yesterday. THEY ARE A CASH COW YOU OLD bastich
124 more of them and you'll be able to rent a limo for an hour.
Wyche on NFL.com says the Eagles contacted Angelo Crowell's agent to express interest but no offers were made or anything...
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2009, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 11, 2009, 02:30:49 PM
Eagles signed former Oaklnad Raiders S Rashad Baker to a one-year contract.
he had 3 int's last year....looks like a replacement for Considine
Super Bowl
HE DOESN'T GET HIS OWN THREAD?
depends...do you want him dead already because thats the only reason why Considine got one
Quote from: reese125 on March 11, 2009, 02:30:49 PM
Eagles signed former Oaklnad Raiders S Rashad Baker to a one-year contract.
he had 3 int's last year....looks like a replacement for Considine
Quote
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11, 2009
BAKER TRIGGERED EAGLES PLAYOFF RUN
Rashad Baker has already played a major role in getting the Eagles to the playoffs and he just signed with the team today.
Some people may recall that it was Baker, a Camden native, who came up with a game-clinching interception on the final day of the 2008 regular season that made the Eagles' finale against the Dallas Cowboys meaningful.
Baker, a product of Woodrow Wilson High School and the University of Tennessee, intercepted a Jeff Garcia pass to seal Oakland's upset victory over the Buccaneers down in Tampa Bay. That play eliminated the Bucs from playoff contention and, combined with a Chicago loss in Houston, gave the Eagles a chance to earn an unlikely postseason berth. The Eagles, of course, trounced the Cowboys and went on to win two playoff games before losing to Arizona in the NFC championship game.
"I didn't know the impact it had at the time," Baker said after signing a one-year contract with the Eagles. "After the game, I saw that Philly had won and I started getting a lot of phone calls and texts telling me I helped the Eagles get into the playoffs."
Baker, 27, thinks it might have helped him get a job with his new team, too.
"It was definitely a good feeling," Baker said. "I never thought as a result of that play that Philadelphia would be interested, but I'm grateful for the opportunity."
Troy Archie, the Camden-based agent for Baker, said his client also had been in talks with Oakland, Cleveland and New Orleans. Archie said Baker wanted a chance to play near home and he felt this was a good opportunity after Brian Dawkins signed with Denver.
"He's a Philly fan and this was a great opportunity for him to play for a team that he followed since he was a kid," Archie said. "He wanted to get closer to home and his family and the Eagles were that opportunity. I think he'll make a contribution."
After losing Dawkins and Sean Considine via free agency, the Eagles were down to two Quintins -- Mikell and Demps -- at the safety position, but with the addition of Baker and Sean Jones, who signed a one-year deal last week, the team again has safeties in numbers.
Baker, who had a career-high three interceptions with Oakland last season after having a total of two in his first four NFL seasons, is hoping to compete with Jones for time at safety. Like Jones, Baker, 5-foot-10 and 200 pounds, said he is capable of playing either free safety or strong safety.
"Through my years of playing, I always had to learn to be interchangeable," Baker said. "Whatever best fits the opportunity for me, whether its strong safety or free safety, I want to take advantage of it. Watching this team on TV, I've seen Brian Dawkins blitz and I've seen him back in coverage. I like the versatility of this defense."
Baker, who now lives in Williamstown, N.J., started his NFL career with Buffalo as an undrafted free agent in 2004 and has since played with Minnesota, New England and Raiders. That's a lot of moving in a little bit of time, but now Baker is hoping to find a home in the place he calls home.
Thanks for not sparing us the heartbreak asshat. Oh, and lol at his agent basically saying to a Philly paper, "Now that the Dawkins guy is gone, my guy has a shot".
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 11, 2009, 06:28:59 PM
Wyche on NFL.com says the Eagles contacted Angelo Crowell's agent to express interest but no offers were made or anything...
A guy who spent all of 2008 on IR... why on earth would Andy Reid be interested in that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Fix your sarcasmeter if you think I'm serious. Dumbass.
I like what I've read today...
1. Weaver is a good player. I hope they bring him in.
2. Baker is a good depth guy; I like that too
3. Crowell would be nice...where is he gonna play? WIL?
4. Not holdin' my breath for Boldin.
I shall PRAY for Boldin...long time. He's been one of my fav players in football since he was a rookie. Love the guy. Like love him gay
phreak is back
So that means they will probably sign Crowell to a 1 yr deal. That Boldin thing is laughable, King basically goes off of intuition on that, seriously?
If Arizona ever decides they want to deal Boldin then he will be an Eagle by the end of that very week. The issue is Arizona doesn't want to deal him right now.
If they put him on the block, he's as good as an Eagle. Guaranteed.
Browns release Joe Jurevicius, per ESPNEWS... He's: old, white, 3rd recvr at best...(3 yrs ago) consider him an Eagle...
So much for Lurie being strapped for cash (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090312_Philadelphia_Eagles_owner_joins_billionaire_club.html)
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles owner joins billionaire club
By Suzette Parmley
Inquirer Staff Writer
Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie wasn't able to raise a Super Bowl trophy last season, but he did find a different kind of pay dirt: Forbes' 2009 list of the world's billionaires.
The magazine's much-awaited roster was released yesterday, and Lurie was on it for the first time. He managed that despite a terrible economy that sent some moguls to the ranks of "former billionaires."
Lurie joined 20 other first-timers on the list.
The total number of billionaires fell to 793 from 1,125 - the first time since 2003 that the number of billionaires worldwide has dropped. The total worth of the billionaires was down $1.4 trillion from the previous year.
This year's billionaires have an average net worth of $3 billion, down 23 percent in 12 months.
Even those who have managed to stay billionaires, including Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Berkshire Hathaway chief executive officer Warren Buffett, suffered huge losses.
"When the stock market falls as much as it has this year, and so many of the billionaires have their wealth tied up in the stock of their company or the markets in general, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the number of billionaires has fallen," said TD Bank N.A. chief economist Joel L. Naroff.
Lurie, the Boston-born heir to a publishing and movie-theater fortune, was regarded as an undistinguished Hollywood producer when he bought the Eagles in 1994 from Norman Braman for $185 million - then a record for any sports franchise.
In September 2008, Forbes estimated the franchise's value at $1.116 billion, seventh-highest in the National Football League.
Lurie's net worth tied him at 701st on this year's list at $1.0 billion.
But advances such as Lurie's were rare in a year of global economic distress.
Ten fortunes dwindled by a combined $238 billion last year - more than the gross domestic product of Ireland, according to Forbes.
The world's richest man, Microsoft's Gates, lost $18 billion in the last year, leaving his net worth at $40 billion.
Buffett, last year's No. 1 billionaire, saw his fortune decline $25 billion as shares of Berkshire Hathaway fell nearly 50 percent in 12 months. Mexican telecom titan Carlos Slim Helu maintained his spot in the top three but lost $25 billion, according to the magazine.
In all, 656 moguls lost money last year.
Among them was gambling titan Sheldon Adelson, 75, considered Las Vegas' richest man, who was ranked No. 178 on this year's list - plummeting from No. 12 last year.
Adelson's fortune dropped $22 billion in the last 12 months to $3.4 billion, as the weakened global economy tanked, and with it, consumers' appetites to gamble in his palaces in Las Vegas and Macau.
Shares of Adelson's Las Vegas Sands Corp. have fallen more than 95 percent in a year. He injected $1 billion of his own cash into the company to help make a debt payment last fall. Construction of billion-dollar casinos in Macau has been suspended, and nearly 11,000 workers were laid off last November in China.
Still, the college dropout and son of a Boston cabdriver is not shrinking from taking chances. His next project - the $743 million Sands Bethlehem Casino near Allentown - debuts in May.
Other people with ties to the Philadelphia region on this year's list: Leonore Annenberg; Blackstone Group's cofounder Stephen Schwarzman, a native of Montgomery County; and Mary Alice Dorrance Malone, of Coatesville, whose grandfather founded Campbell Soup Co.
Annenberg and Malone moved up in this year's rankings, to No. 430 and No. 318, respectively, while Schwarzman dropped to 261 from 145 last year.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 12, 2009, 05:42:11 AM
So much for Lurie being strapped for cash (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090312_Philadelphia_Eagles_owner_joins_billionaire_club.html)
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles owner joins billionaire club
By Suzette Parmley
Inquirer Staff Writer
Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie wasn't able to raise a Super Bowl trophy last season, but he did find a different kind of pay dirt: Forbes' 2009 list of the world's billionaires.
The magazine's much-awaited roster was released yesterday, and Lurie was on it for the first time. He managed that despite a terrible economy that sent some moguls to the ranks of "former billionaires."
Lurie joined 20 other first-timers on the list.
The total number of billionaires fell to 793 from 1,125 - the first time since 2003 that the number of billionaires worldwide has dropped. The total worth of the billionaires was down $1.4 trillion from the previous year.
This year's billionaires have an average net worth of $3 billion, down 23 percent in 12 months.
Even those who have managed to stay billionaires, including Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Berkshire Hathaway chief executive officer Warren Buffett, suffered huge losses.
"When the stock market falls as much as it has this year, and so many of the billionaires have their wealth tied up in the stock of their company or the markets in general, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the number of billionaires has fallen," said TD Bank N.A. chief economist Joel L. Naroff.
Lurie, the Boston-born heir to a publishing and movie-theater fortune, was regarded as an undistinguished Hollywood producer when he bought the Eagles in 1994 from Norman Braman for $185 million - then a record for any sports franchise.
In September 2008, Forbes estimated the franchise's value at $1.116 billion, seventh-highest in the National Football League.
Lurie's net worth tied him at 701st on this year's list at $1.0 billion.
But advances such as Lurie's were rare in a year of global economic distress.
Ten fortunes dwindled by a combined $238 billion last year - more than the gross domestic product of Ireland, according to Forbes.
The world's richest man, Microsoft's Gates, lost $18 billion in the last year, leaving his net worth at $40 billion.
Buffett, last year's No. 1 billionaire, saw his fortune decline $25 billion as shares of Berkshire Hathaway fell nearly 50 percent in 12 months. Mexican telecom titan Carlos Slim Helu maintained his spot in the top three but lost $25 billion, according to the magazine.
In all, 656 moguls lost money last year.
Among them was gambling titan Sheldon Adelson, 75, considered Las Vegas' richest man, who was ranked No. 178 on this year's list - plummeting from No. 12 last year.
Adelson's fortune dropped $22 billion in the last 12 months to $3.4 billion, as the weakened global economy tanked, and with it, consumers' appetites to gamble in his palaces in Las Vegas and Macau.
Shares of Adelson's Las Vegas Sands Corp. have fallen more than 95 percent in a year. He injected $1 billion of his own cash into the company to help make a debt payment last fall. Construction of billion-dollar casinos in Macau has been suspended, and nearly 11,000 workers were laid off last November in China.
Still, the college dropout and son of a Boston cabdriver is not shrinking from taking chances. His next project - the $743 million Sands Bethlehem Casino near Allentown - debuts in May.
Other people with ties to the Philadelphia region on this year's list: Leonore Annenberg; Blackstone Group's cofounder Stephen Schwarzman, a native of Montgomery County; and Mary Alice Dorrance Malone, of Coatesville, whose grandfather founded Campbell Soup Co.
Annenberg and Malone moved up in this year's rankings, to No. 430 and No. 318, respectively, while Schwarzman dropped to 261 from 145 last year.
And in other news, she died today (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20090312_Billionaire_philanthropist_Leonore_Annenberg__91__dies.html) after the shock of seeing Lurie was a billionaire and didn't pay extra to re-sign Dawkins.
From: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090312_Seahawks_fullback_draws_Eagles__interest.html
Quote"He's an excellent receiver, runner, and blocker. The fullback pay scale doesn't reflect his talents. We're just trying to find the right situation and the right contract. We can always go back to Seattle, because they'd like to have him back."
Well, that doesn't bode well.
is that fat DT turned FB still on the Eagles? Yes, the white guy.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 12, 2009, 09:09:10 AM
From: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090312_Seahawks_fullback_draws_Eagles__interest.html
Quote"He's an excellent receiver, runner, and blocker. The fullback pay scale doesn't reflect his talents. We're just trying to find the right situation and the right contract. We can always go back to Seattle, because they'd like to have him back."
Well, that doesn't bode well.
jesus if the eagles like the guy just "overpay" for him...christ hes a fullback how much money could he possibly want
how do you bring in guys like this and shawn springs and not sign them with 40 mil available under the cap
I don't know what the hell is going on, they have all this money and for what...to make moves in the draft? farg that they better trade some drafts picks for some proven vets. I'm sick of them bringing in scrubs and project players. If they are relying on the draft as it seems to be then they better get some quality guys this year. That being said, I have zero confidence in who they pick. Another shtein year to look forward too. Billionaires don't know how to run football teams and neither do Mormons.
i really dont care if all their effort is now put towards the draft and possible trades...the FA market is dead now...my point it they are bringing in scrubs who are not in high demand if in demand at all around the league and they are still penny pinching them
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2009, 09:23:39 AM
jesus if the eagles like the guy just "overpay" for him...christ hes a fullback how much money could he possibly want
Exactly. The guy is a farging FB. Overpaying for that position would be offering the guy something like $500,000. Just spend some farging money and (I know it's crazy) get an actual fullback to play fullback.
Pretty much. Pay his ass, get a real FB and be done with it.
farging Banner.
Braman has more money than Lurie? He should buy the team back! Toats!
P.S. The value of the team itself is basically all of Lurie's net worth, so it is exactly as I said before... He may not exactly be dripping in it with liquid cash. Is he cash POOR? farg no. But a $10 million dollar signing bonus is a lot to pay for a guy that has about $60 million outside of the team's value itself.
In short, if he doesn't sell off part of the team or take a loan out on it, he's not exactly FLUSH with cash to throw at every free agent.
Andy Reid and crew no damn well they would use Weaver extensively in the passing game because big boy loves to pass out in the flat to fullbacks.
so in one sense its understandable that youre not going to pay him Derrick Ward dollars, but at least come to terms that you wasted a 4th round pick on a supposed to be RB in lorenzo friggin booker who does NOTHING, so you cant raise the ante on a guy that will actually be used and you desperately need him?
smart
There are two sides to every negotiation. If the Eagles sign him, that means they likely offered more than any of the other 31 teams did.
Quote from: reese125 on March 12, 2009, 02:14:37 PM
so in one sense its understandable that youre not going to pay him Derrick Ward dollars
wtf?....how does ward even remotely compare to weaver in any sense especially the money they are looking for
They are both running backs and both have a last name that starts with "W." Score one for reese!
Quote from: Father Demon on March 12, 2009, 08:29:02 AM
And in other news, she died today (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20090312_Billionaire_philanthropist_Leonore_Annenberg__91__dies.html) after the shock of seeing Lurie was a billionaire and didn't pay extra to re-sign Dawkins.
I just saw that on philly.com.
Maybe it was the shock that G Lew is finally gone.
First off IGY-you got balls correcting anyones spelling errors since you write like Pacman Jones speaks
and the second point is not really that tough--I was merely making the point that the guy is looking for running back dollars...so you and Potsie can try once again to 1-up me if you'd like
im a horrendous typer who doesnt care enough to fix his typos...youre an illiterate neanderthal
get or whatever (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/cardinals-shopping-boldin/)
Yeah I know IGY...we'll see ya at the scrip club tonight
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 12, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
get or whatever (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/cardinals-shopping-boldin/)
cole is on the clock....eagles will have boldin before COB next thursday
I played in a band in high school and our name was Close Of Business.
We sucked.
was that a thinly veiled "i know what COB stands for" post?
Odds on the Eagles making a play for him?
Im just glad the Eagles would be the only team that would want him
I haven't seen any confirmation....but someone on the EMB posted that Mort and a Buffalo radio station said the Eagles were trying to trade for Lee Evans.
Probably bullshtein, but interesting nonetheless.
Oh, and the DMN said that the Eagles were interested in ex-Cowboy (twice) and Dolphin Keith Davis.
Evans? they already have a 5 footer in Jackson..no way
Boldin plz.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2009, 05:06:34 PM
I haven't seen any confirmation....but someone on the EMB posted that Mort and a Buffalo radio station said the Eagles were trying to trade for Lee Evans.
Probably bullshtein, but interesting nonetheless.
Oh, and the DMN said that the Eagles were interested in ex-Cowboy (twice) and Dolphin Keith Davis.
Oh I totally believe it.
Boldin on the market and they'll get Evans. Perfect. Typical.
::)
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 12, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
get or whatever (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/cardinals-shopping-boldin/)
Here we go.
Does anyone want to start the "Here's why Anquan Boldin will not be an Eagle" thread or should I do it?
I don't want Evans. His press conference with the Eagles will probably be on Saturday.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 12, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 12, 2009, 05:06:34 PM
I haven't seen any confirmation....but someone on the EMB posted that Mort and a Buffalo radio station said the Eagles were trying to trade for Lee Evans.
Probably bullshtein, but interesting nonetheless.
Oh, and the DMN said that the Eagles were interested in ex-Cowboy (twice) and Dolphin Keith Davis.
Oh I totally believe it.
Boldin on the market and they'll get Evans. Perfect. Typical.
::)
...freeing up the Giants to lowball the Cards and get Boldin for a 2010 5th and Jerome McDoudle.
Evans is a good player, but if the Eagles are 'serious' about getting a WR (which I doubt) and Boldin is available, there is NO excuse, especially with 2 1st rounders to not get him. Grabbing Lee Evans as a consolation price if Boldin is actually available is not acceptable.
Lee Evans is someone you get in Madden when it doesn't matter who the farg your receivers are.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on March 12, 2009, 06:59:03 PM
Evans is a good player, but if the Eagles are 'serious' about getting a WR (which I doubt) and Boldin is available, there is NO excuse, especially with 2 1st rounders to not get him. Grabbing Lee Evans as a consolation price if Boldin is actually available is not acceptable.
see there is an excuse... because if you think the Eagles would give up a 1st, 3rd and 6th for Boldin like Dallas did for Roy Williams, I have some ocean front property in Wyoming with your name on it
Quote from: General_Failure on March 12, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
Lee Evans is someone you get in Madden when it doesn't matter who the farg your receivers are.
Or if your offense consists of HB counter and fly routes for every pass pattern. Boy's got burners.
The Eagles could become the fastest team to get to the redzone to settle for FGs.
Apparently the Evans thing was false.
And the Cards have denied shopping Boldin.
Get Boldin.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090313_Eagles_await_Weaver_s_decision.html
QuoteEagles await Weaver's decision
Free-agent fullback Leonard Weaver is close to deciding where he'll sign.
"We are talking and hope to work something out in the very near future with one of the teams that is interested in Leonard," Weaver's agent, Harold Lewis, wrote yesterday via e-mail.
Lewis said several teams were interested in Weaver, but the only one he mentioned besides the Eagles was the Seattle Seahawks, for whom Weaver played during his first four NFL seasons.
Weaver, 26, spoke with ESPN 950 radio Wednesday night and said he would like to sign with the Eagles. An Eagles source said earlier in the week that the team was interested in the versatile fullback.
The Eagles could want Weaver to sign a short-term deal similar to the ones recently signed by free-agent safeties Sean Jones and Rashad Baker. Jones and Baker each signed for one year, but the Eagles may be willing to give Weaver a two-year deal.
- Bob Brookover
have the eagles ever had someone come in had them leave waited a week or two then got that guy...if its happened its been rare...seems like if they dont sign them at novacare or if it becomes a open competition they dont get them
They can't even resign their own players when there's multiple offers.
26 year old Fullback? Multiple year deal? Naaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!
Seems like the FO is waiting on Boldin before they make a move on anyone else. I don't see how delaying a FB decision impacts their move on getting Boldin.
huh?
now thats how you make a point
Now that's just stupid.
my eyes are bleeding
Matt Mosley's review of our offeseason thus far. Last in the division.
Philadelphia Eagles: C-
This may seem harsh to some of you, but is there anything that excites you about what the Eagles have accomplished so far? Stacy Andrews can replace Jon Runyan at right tackle, but this still leaves a gaping hole on the left side. The Eagles could package their two first-round picks and move up to draft someone like Jason Smith of Baylor, but that's not Andy Reid's style -- at least not lately. It's more likely they trade down and acquire some additional picks.
Sean Jones is a serviceable replacement for Brian Dawkins, but the one-year deal tells you that the organization doesn't have a ton of faith in the guy. Former Raiders safety Rashad Baker is more of a special-teams guy.
But if the Eagles are biding their time to make a run at Cardinals wide receiver Anquan Boldin, all can be forgiven. They probably would have to part with one of their first-round picks and possibly a third-rounder. Does that seem like the type of thing Reid and Joe Banner would do? Right now, Donovan McNabb's scratching his head like the rest of us.
rjs gave them a C- also, shockingly
Official- Holt released today
Sign Holt, trade for Boldin and Evans, CHAMPIONSHIP!!
Holt, Giant. Boldin, bird. Me happy.
Don Ho = Flyin' Hawaiian?
24/7 romey, 24/7.
The Ravens are releasing Samari Rolle.
Tra says Eagles coaches are too 'businesslike' (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20090314_Eagles_-_Now_with_Jacksonville__Thomas_says_Eagles__coaching_staff_is_too__businesslike_.html)
Why would any player be surprised that Lurie & Banner think of them as cattle? More to the point, though, why express that view after you leave?
Quote from: Rome on March 14, 2009, 10:19:51 AM
Why would any player be surprised that Lurie & Banner think of them as cattle? More to the point, though, why express that view after you leave?
He said 'coaches', meaning Reid, Castillo etc. If you read the article he refers to Tomlin's relationship with his players.
I don't know if I can knock the coaches for being "business like" rather than buddies. Tomlinson won a SB and is more friendly, but Belichick is not personable and Coughlin changed from being hated to merely tolerated by his players and they have won recent SBs. I don't care if AR acts like Atilla the Hun except on Wednesdays when he comes in dressed like a gay alter boy, as long as he wins.
One thing I think can matter though is when the coaches are too "up tight" as Sheldon Brown said a couple of years ago. He gave the impression the coaches were almost scared and that rubbed off on the players.
Galloway to Pats
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090316_Eagles__shot_at_signing_Weaver_dim.html)
QuoteEagles' shot at signing Weaver dim
There were indications yesterday that free-agent fullback Leonard Weaver will be playing somewhere other than Philadelphia next season.
A league source said that the Eagles had not had contact with Weaver's agent, Harold Lewis, for several days. The source indicated that Weaver might re-sign with the Seattle Seahawks or go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
The Seahawks reportedly freed up about $6.5 million in salary-cap space over the weekend by trading linebacker Julian Peterson to the Detroit Lions.
Lewis did not return phone calls or e-mail messages.
If the Eagles do not sign Weaver, the incumbent fullbacks will remain Dan Klecko and Kyle Eckel.
Through the Eagles' first 11 games last season, the team converted third-down situations a horrendous 51.1 percent (23 of 45) of the time when they needed 3 yards or fewer. In their final eight games, including the three playoff games, that percentage improved to 71.4 percent (25 of 35).
That improvement reflected the activation of Eckel and the improvement by Klecko at fullback after he had opened the season as a defensive tackle.
- Bob Brookover
Typical.
eat a fleshpop, Banner.
I love that it makes more sense to these fargers to keep a DT in that spot than to pay $500,000 to sign a real FB.
Wow I just noticed the CF banner needs redone. I am thinking since the Eagles are this "gold-standard, than we should put Lurie, Banner, Reid, Marty, wives, farged up children, all the people that make this organization so golden on the banner.
Salary Cap Champs
Have the FO on the left sitting on stacks of money or surrounded by money...on the right have coaching staff, illuminated by the presence of Joseph Smith, Jr., cheeseburgers and possibly needles and cocaine for young Reids?
Am I the only one here that likes Eckel?
Quote from: Tomahawk on March 16, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
Am I the only one here that likes Eckel?
I like Heckle. Is that the same?
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/scotto01/Humor/Heckle_and_Jeckle.png)
I'm not worried about missing out on this guy specifically, as long as they actually do something about the position.
Weaver does everything well but block. That wouldn't seem to help on the 3rd and short situations much.
Umm actually he's a coverted TE who can run and catch but not block, according to IGY
IGY didnt say that did he?
Quote
Westbrook mum on team's changes
Philadelphia Daily News
An excerpt from a post by Les Bowen on Eagletarian, the Daily News' Eagles blog, available at www.eagletarian.com:
DELAND, Fla. - At Tra Thomas' charity golf tournament Friday, Brian Westbrook begged off speaking at length to your Eagletarian, but readily agreed to do so on Saturday, at the youth football clinic Tra was conducting in the local high school football stadium.
Long story short, because I don't think the public is all that interested in the trials and tribulations of reporters trying to get stories, BWest unagreed to speak with me on Saturday. He's a quirky, cantankerous interview subject in the best of times, and with all the hubbub surrounding the departures of longtime Eagles franchise icons, including Brian Dawkins and the weekend's host, I think he decided these were not the best of times.
Of course, Westbrook could have just said that on Friday, rather than leading me to believe we would speak, then putting me off over and over on Saturday, and, I believe, working to make me unwelcome at the charity event I had been invited to attend, but that's life covering professional athletes. One is reminded constantly that their time is much more precious than one's own.
Anyhow - and that really is the short version, trust me - I did manage to wedge in a few questions here and there, as Brian was climbing in and out of SUVs, and some puffed-up local dignitary was threatening me with arrest.
The main issue with Westbrook is the arthroscopic left knee cleanout he underwent around the time of the Super Bowl, which the Eagles did not announce. I asked Brian what he wanted fans to know, as he recovers and gets ready for 2009.
"Nothing. I don't have anything I want to say to the fans," he said.
Asked specifically about the surgery, he said: "I didn't have to have it. It was a surgery that'll make things a lot better, so the [week-to-week] soreness won't be there and hopefully I'll be able to participate in practices without so much pain. It was a basic cleanout."
Westbrook, who turns 30 in September, said he'd thought about having something like this done previously, but "I wanted to make sure I was there to help the team win football games."
One of the event officials prevented me from asking a followup there, but I assume Westbrook was talking about not wanting to have anything done during the season, which would have meant missing a stretch of games.
He said he thinks he has several years left, at a position where players seem to age almost overnight. After a career year in 2007, in which Westbrook broke franchise records for receptions (90) and total yards (2,104), his yards per carry in 2008 slipped to 4.0, his lowest since 2005. His 54 receptions for 402 yards were his lowest totals since 2003.
My question about the changes on the team, and his thoughts about the departures, was asked a couple of times and was not answered.
Westbrook, only 6 weeks or so past the surgery, not surprisingly did not participate in Tra's charity basketball game Saturday evening, in which Kevin Kolb and Juqua Parker were the standouts, though BWest watched from the bench.
Wahhhh! Waaaaah! Shut up, Les.
Kolb was good at something?
Maybe the Sixers should sign him to replace the aging Andre Miller.
Quote from: mussa on March 16, 2009, 10:06:58 AM
Have the FO on the left sitting on stacks of money or surrounded by money...on the right have coaching staff, illuminated by the presence of Joseph Smith, Jr., cheeseburgers and possibly needles and cocaine for young Reids?
Winner!
QuoteREPORT: L.J. SMITH NOT HEADING TO ATLANTA
Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2009, 3:55 p.m.
At a time when the signs seemed to point to tight end L.J. Smith signing with the Falcons, it appears that the free-agent won't be heading to Atlanta.
D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the courtship between Smith and the Falcons is over.
Smith reportedly had narrowed his options to Detroit and Atlanta. With the Falcons out, the Lions might be the only option.
But given this quote from Ledbetter's article, it's unclear why the Falcons were ever in: "Smith's lack of blocking ability isn't a scheme fit for the run happy Falcons."
Smith has spent his entire career with the Eagles. In 2008, he was the team's franchise player.
the lions. lol. what a bust
If he comes back crawling, do you sign him on the cheap and stick him behind Celek?
Unless they draft a TE, that is.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 16, 2009, 11:41:09 AM
Kolb was good at something?
Won closest to the pin on the fourth hole at Tra's Golf Tourny. He won an ipod nano.
Quote from: Munson on March 17, 2009, 01:23:07 AM
If he comes back crawling, do you sign him on the cheap and stick him behind Celek?
No, he won't.
No, they won't.
Brent Celek is better than Little John...he has proved it already
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 17, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
Quote from: Munson on March 17, 2009, 01:23:07 AM
If he comes back crawling, do you sign him on the cheap and stick him behind Celek?
No, he won't.
No, they won't.
Word.
So, you're telling me there's a chance! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3990124) (for Peppers)
QuoteThe Dallas Cowboys and two other unidentified NFC teams also are on Peppers' four-team wish list,
One of them being the Patriots.
I thought he already mentioned the 4 teams he was considering: Saints, Falcons, Cowboys, and a unnamed NFC team which was rumored to be the Eagles. Considering how the Panthers would never trade him to a division rival, I thought he would be a Cowboy by now. Then again I though Ray Lewis would be a Cowboy and TO would still be on that team.
He won't go to Dallas. They have a low 2nd rounder to offer and don't have a 1st or a 3rd. The Pats have a top 2nd rounder(from the Chiefs) which trumps any offer Dallas can make. Unless Dallas trades their 2010 1st rounder after just giving up one for Roy Williams.
PFT reports that LJ Smith has reached an agreement pending a physical with the Ravens for a paltry 1 year $1.5 million.
Overpaid
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 18, 2009, 06:19:02 AM
Overpaid
C'mon he makes at least one play a year that gives you hope he's for real...
Cleveland Plain Dealer says the Eagles joined the Braylon Edwards talks
Link (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/03/cleveland_browns_gm_george_kok.html)
Yo tengo football wood.
Get, get, get!!
But there is no way they will; no shot. It makes me sad.
Anquan Boldin > Braylon Edwards > Kevin Curtis > Reghanjason Browbaskvant
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 23, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Reghanjason Browbaskvant
:-D
Sounds like a Russky. Or a Swedish dude.
Boldin please
I don't care what stats say or how many drops Edwards had last year, I'd take him over Boldin.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 24, 2009, 05:25:50 AM
I don't care what stats say or how many drops Edwards had last year, I'd take him over Boldin.
same here.
Boldin is the safer bet, but Edwards would be just fine. Or maybe they could clone a in-his-prime Jerry Rice, because that's about as likely as getting either of the other guys.
Such the farging optimist, that Zanshin...
the guy has trouble catching those soft rainbows from Derek Anderson...what do you think he's going to do with bullet worm burners from Cranky McRocketarm?
i love how andy has gotten one good wr in 10 years yet everytime a wr's name is even slighty mentioned people start talking about him....now its even progressed to the point where people are trying to figure out whod theyd rather them get bwtn two real good wr's
And it will continue to be frustrating to watch an Andy Reid passapalooza offense for another year without one of those good WRs. Right now they could trade for either or both of those guys, make the fans happy, and give their disgruntled QB a massive erection, but then they wouldn't get an offensive tackle and a small, speedy defensive lineman from the draft on day one.
Edwards over Boldin?
what?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2009, 09:19:10 AM
i love how andy has gotten one good wr in 10 years yet everytime a wr's name is even slighty mentioned people start talking about him....now its even progressed to the point where people are trying to figure out whod theyd rather them get bwtn two real good wr's
You want to talk about Darwin Walker's thigh some more?
Quote from: SunMo on March 24, 2009, 09:08:48 AM
what do you think he's going to do with bullet worm burners from Cranky McRocketarm?
He'll have to contort his body, dive, jump, and generally expend a lot more effort than he should. And he'll get injured in the process.
well they won't commit to a running game so alittle hysteria over a real receiver is perfectly normal
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 24, 2009, 09:41:03 AM
Quote from: SunMo on March 24, 2009, 09:08:48 AM
what do you think he's going to do with bullet worm burners from Cranky McRocketarm?
He'll have to contort his body, dive, jump, and generally expend a lot more effort than he should. And he'll get injured in the process.
at least there will only be a year or two of that then it will revert back to the soft lobs he seems to hate catching so much
Kolbsy!
Watch your mouth.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 24, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
Edwards over Boldin?
what?
I don't get it either. Maybe because Edwards is slightly more realistic
They need a large receiver that can go up and get the ball (a Burress type). Boldin is better after the catch and can catch the ball in stride as well as anyone, but the Eagles already have that in Curtis and Jackson. Despite the stats Edwards is the more talented receiver.
I don't care who it is as long as they get someone who can get separation and catch a ball during a crucial point of an important game after the defense doesn't show up. I have no interest in seeing guys like Curtis trip/slip/get jammed/held and hope for a pentalty flag. Is that so much to ask for?
I don't remember anything about Edwards' professinal career that would lead me to call him clutch. He's also not known for making the tougher definately-going-to-get-nailed-for-catching-this type of pass. That is what this team needs and that is what Boldin makes look easy. Jackson and Curtis are the burners, let Boldin and hopefully someone like Pettigrew work the underneath.
gargano swears up and down that the eagles are not taking a TE in the first round...whether this is something he got from heckert who knows but hes being pretty emphatic about it
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2009, 01:29:09 PM
gargano swears up and down that the eagles are not taking a TE in the first round...whether this is something he got from heckert who knows but hes being pretty emphatic about it
So, by posting that in the free agency thread, are you postulating that the Eagles will be bringing in a backup TE on the cheap?
no i was responding to pettigrew running underneath routes in an eagle uniform next year...and also because id love pettigrew
Here comes Bubba Franks!
Whoa, pump your brakes. Pipe dream.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 24, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
I don't care who it is as long as they get someone who can get separation and catch a ball during a crucial point of an important game after the defense doesn't show up. I have no interest in seeing guys like Curtis trip/slip/get jammed/held and hope for a pentalty flag. Is that so much to ask for?
From Reid? Yes.
Nick Cole re-signed for 1 year. yay.
Quote from: Rome on March 24, 2009, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 24, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
I don't care who it is as long as they get someone who can get separation and catch a ball during a crucial point of an important game after the defense doesn't show up. I have no interest in seeing guys like Curtis trip/slip/get jammed/held and hope for a pentalty flag. Is that so much to ask for?
From Reid? Yes.
Yeah, I agree, get Moss, TO and Ocho Cinco.
So I see stilloncrack is back.
Yay.
Quote from: Rome on March 31, 2009, 05:53:09 PM
So I see stilloncrack is back.
Yay.
No, but having researched some of the older threads, I take it as a compliment to be compared to such an obviously erudite poster.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037565
QuotePace had an offer from the Philadelphia Eagles, but he decided to sign with the Bears on the day Cutler was acquired in a trade from the Broncos.
So they let Tra walk and were willing to sign Pace?
Did Tra take a one year deal?
Wm Tra took a 3 yr deal but I think it didn't include a SB, so maybe it's the same as 3 one year deals.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2009, 11:55:00 PM
So they let Tra walk and were willing to sign Pace?
ha...i aint mad at them for letting tra go but thats a good point
Why not throw a one or two year deal at Pace? He got something better, so good for him.
are you kidding me?
now FF wants to sign a 33 year old OL that plays 3 games a season, but just sign him for a year
and the fact that the last line of that article was a throw in team to make it look like somebody actually wanted his ass is even better
ff was always a homer but hes morphed into spadaro before our very eyes
I'm just saying that if they offered a crappy little deal to Tra, why not throw one at Pace and see if it sticks?
You asses are forcing me to one side of every argument just to make this place interesting. Otherwise, it would just be everyone suckling at each others' balls over Dawkins leaving or firing cripples or not getting Jay farging Cutler.
you still dont get it---why in the hell do you want Pace, better yet why do you want the Eagles to have him?
I'd want him because he's at least a better 4th OT than Winston Justice.
absolutely--end of discussion
no one cares about the cripple specifically....yes it was a fleshpopheadish move to fire him but in a normal world it wouldnt really register...however in the eagles world when you put it on top of everything else this FO has done over the last decade and the uncaring holier than thou pretentious aura they have put forth then it becomes a big deal
the dawk thing was 1000% indefensible...there of course are different levels of how wrong you think the move was...but if you think it was not a bad move then you literally are spadaro
as for cutler there isnt one single person ive seen that has criticized the team over not getting him nor did anyone think the team would get him...some just thought it would have been a good idea to have done it
Nice detailed analysis of all the opinions you've already spewed 800 times in the last week.
all the opinions that force you to one side
jump on my back and we can run the swamp eat space candy bars and ill teach you how not to stare in banners swirly lolipop
Stop toying with me. I'm way too sober for that.
ESPN Insider is jocking a rumor that the Eagles are pursuing Chad Johnson. I don't have Insider so I don't have any more information than that, but if anyone does have Insider and wants to post something about it I'm sure we'd all be interested. Dicks.
its not really insider....michael smith reported it on espn radio yesterday....basically said if the bengals move him the eagles are interested
makes perfect sense now. they passed on ocho cinco last year when he was probably the best WR there was a chance of getting. now that he's probably 4th on the list the eagles will have much more bargaining power.
GET.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 08, 2009, 09:47:47 AM
ESPN Insider is jocking a rumor that the Eagles are pursuing Chad Johnson. I don't have Insider so I don't have any more information than that, but if anyone does have Insider and wants to post something about it I'm sure we'd all be interested. Dicks.
Knowing how they work, they're probably just building it into a story, since the Eagles are perceived as WR-needy, even though there may be now truth to the interest. The media is tricky like that, just like transexual prostitutes.
I find transexual prostitutes to be very straightforward, actually. They want you to plug them in the pooper. No great mystery or confusion there.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 08, 2009, 10:10:39 AM
I find transexual prostitutes to be very straightforward, actually. They want you to plug them in the pooper. No great mystery or confusion there.
The tricky ones are the ones that let you finish giving them oral before they tell you they are a guy.
You should probably stop going down on hookers. Male or female. Bad policy.
heres the actual insider - 'rumor central' - piece
Eagles in on Ocho Cinco derby?
Interested: Jaguars? Raiders? Eagles? Jets? Giants?
It's become a tradition this offseason, given the Philadelphia Eagles' wealth of draft picks, that any time any trade-worthy asset is brought up, the Eagles are listed as an interested party.
The tradition continued last night on NFL Live, when ESPN's Michael Smith indicated that Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ocho Cinco could be catching passes from Donovan McNabb in 2009. Smith said, "I am hearing there is interest in Chad Johnson. Now there's been some back and forth as to whether or not he is officially on the market. I think everybody in Cincinnati has signed off on moving Chad Johnson except for owner Mike Brown. The Eagles could be in the picture. They have two first-round picks. They need a receiver."
The Eagles have made some key additions to the team via free agency so far - a sturdy offensive tackle in Stacy Andrews, a surly free safety in Sean Jones, and a versatile fullback in Leonard Weaver - but Ocho Cinco would provide the team with a glamorous offensive weapon both on- and off-field such as the fanbase has not enjoyed since the roller-coaster days of Terrell Owens. In addition, pairing Ocho Cinco with DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis would provoke nightmares for secondary coaches around the NFC East.
Nonetheless, there has been some discussion that instead of trading for an established veteran, the team will use some of their many picks to trade up and make a play for Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin or one of the offensive tackles at the top of the draft. This is clearly a more conservative play, especially considering that Ocho Cinco, now tres uno years old, would want a lucrative contract from his new team.
since none of those other teams really need a WR, I can definitely see the Eagles out-bidding all of them
I cant wait.
Quote from: Michael Smith
Ocho Cinco, now tres uno years old
This is why Michael Smith is big-time. Genius!
it would be funny seeing the FO and rosenhaus working out a contract for 85. it would probably be 666 pages long.
what makes you think the front office would even entertain such a negotiation...hes signed for two more years with a team option for a third
also does he even want a new contract...i havent heard that...if he does i would assume the eagles would want no part of him
is the team option "tradable" or would that be voided if a deal were made to move him? either way, i'm thinking that if traded, he would want a new contract. the only reason we probably heard much of him wanting a new contract is because he wants out of cincy.....so asking for a new contract would be kind of rediculous.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2009, 01:26:54 PM
what makes you think the front office would even entertain such a negotiation...
I think it's unlikely
The time between when remaining free agents have the appeal of turds in a punchbowl and the dawning day of another underwhelming draft is sublime.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 08, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
is the team option "tradable" or would that be voided if a deal were made to move him? either way, i'm thinking that if traded, he would want a new contract. the only reason we probably heard much of him wanting a new contract is because he wants out of cincy.....so asking for a new contract would be kind of rediculous.
ive never heard of an untradable team option....do they exist
and im not so sure he wants a new deal (they just caked him off three years a ago) seems to me he just wants away from marvin lewis (and cinn)...but only ocho knows
This guy is on a roll today:
ESPN's Michael Smith reports that the Eagles have "engaged in serious discussions" with the Bills about LT Jason Peters.
edit: Peters name was brought up last night on NFL Live by Smith with Ocho as the other pick up already discussed
Quote from: reese125 on April 08, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
This guy is on a roll today:
ESPN's Michael Smith reports that the Eagles have "engaged in serious discussions" with the Bills about LT Jason Peters.
edit: Peters name was brought up last night on NFL Live by Smith with Ocho as the other pick up already discussed
at least he making a statement and not some vague the eagles MIGHT go for ocho IF he becomes available...and the only evidence given for this happening is that the eagles are always in need of a wr
in this case hes saying it as a matter of fact
Get Jason Peters.
Peters-Herremans-Jackson-Andrews-Andrews
pimp
What would it take to get Peters? I'm holding onto the crackdream the Eagles make a move for Crabtree
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 08, 2009, 04:44:16 PM
What would it take to get Peters? I'm holding onto the crackdream the Eagles make a move for Crabtree
Kirwin and Tim Ryan on NFL radio today were saying the #28 pick might not be enough but maybe the 21 pick would be (doesn't seem to be a huge difference to me). They said he had an off year in '08 but would still be worth it. The big problem as they saw it, is apparently he wants some huge elite LT money and that would be very tough to get from a team also giving up a first rounder. If I heard them right they liked Peters better than any of the OTs in the upcoming draft.
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Further south Chad, if you really want to come to Philly.
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 08, 2009, 04:44:16 PM
What would it take to get Peters? I'm holding onto the crackdream the Eagles make a move for Crabtree
The Bills are looking for a first and a third. Peters himself is looking for a monster deal wherever he goes ($60 million long-termer). The Eagles are still the primary team being floated.
Stacy Andrews = #71
Leonard Weaver = #43
Sean Jones = #26
Rashad Baker = #30
you care
Why the hell aren't you buried into those other NFL MB's getting us the damn schedule?!
Dammit, Easy..... Focus!
ha
there's pretty much nothing out there yet. Spadaro is guessing @ New York in week 1 but others are saying it's Washington...
the suspense is just killing me
I wonder how many times they'll face NFC East opponents this year??
1.5
Quote from: Diomedes on April 14, 2009, 03:21:45 PM
I wonder how many times they'll face NFC East opponents this year??
This made me laugh.
Kills self.
Week 8 - home vs Giants
Week 14 - at Giants
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 14, 2009, 03:18:33 PMthere's pretty much nothing out there yet. Spadaro is guessing @ New York in week 1 but others are saying it's Washington...
Supposedly the Giants play the taterskins Week 1... ha
Eagles working hard to find that #1 wide reciever:
Quote
Being the NFL's worst team in 2008 has its advantages.
Detroit claimed ex-Kansas City wide receiver Will Franklin off waivers Tuesday, a source told FOXSports.com. The Lions were given the nod over four other teams who placed waiver claims — St. Louis, Philadelphia, Indianapolis and Oakland — because of a worse record last season. The Lions finished as the only 0-16 squad in NFL history.
Franklin could help Detroit get back on track. A 2008 fourth-round pick from Missouri, Franklin caught seven passes for 83 yards in his rookie campaign. Franklin, though, was deemed expendable by the new Scott Pioli-Todd Haley regime in Kansas City.
The Lions are seeking receiver depth after trading Roy Williams to Dallas last October and releasing Mike Furrey in February. Bryant Johnson, who caught 45 passes for 546 yards and three touchdowns last season in San Francisco, signed early this offseason.
^^^^^
Swell,
Giants push hard for Edwards; Eagles put in claim on Will Franklin!!
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Nice - say isn't that alpalpa from our gang?
the one in the dress?
Ha!
FWIW: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/04/15/20090415boldinup-CR.html (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/04/15/20090415boldinup-CR.html)
Boldin.... Philadelphia.
It's happening.
Quote from: King Cole on April 15, 2009, 11:38:48 PM
Boldin.... Philadelphia.
It's happening.
Yeah... the Giants come to the Linc Nov. 1.
Quote from: King Cole on April 15, 2009, 11:38:48 PM
Boldin.... Philadelphia.
It's happening.
:-D have you met Andy and co.?
Quote from: King Cole on April 15, 2009, 11:38:48 PM
Boldin.... Philadelphia.
It's happening.
Do you use your meds? If not i'll take them off your hands
everytime boldins name comes up cole comes out of the wood work and says its gonna happen...last time he said within two weeks its a lock...then it doesnt happen and he disappears...now the name is up again and hes back...
rinse repeat until it happens
would anyone here actually object to trading a 1st and 3rd for him?
i know it would never happen but i wouldnt think twice about both firsts
remember you take out one first because boldin is your number one pick this year
a first and a third is basically trading just a third for him....crazy no brainer
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 16, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
i know it would never happen but i wouldnt think twice about both firsts
remember you take out one first because boldin is your number one pick this year
a first and a third is basically trading just a third for him....crazy no brainer
I agree, I was just asking.
Two firsts, all the fifths, and I'd throw in the left complement to a certain dangling anatomical gift
Reid has no problems packaging picks to trade up to get busts like McDougle but he'll run the NYC Marathon in under 3 hours before he packages 2 #1's to get a proven superstar, especially a receiver.
Fire Reid.
The end.
nm
Rumors: Potential shocker of Boldin to 'Boys
espn
let me guess Ed Werner or John Clayton?
both. in bed. nekkid.
so the Cardinals officially announce what they want for Anqkwan Bouelden, which now means a team will easily overpay for him
if this doesnt clearly take the eagles out of contention I dont know what does
What the hell does Dallas have to trade for him?
They already gave up their 1 and 3 for Williams.
Reid and Co. should, and I would be all for it, send ARZ the 1 and a 3 and get it done with.
It's infuriating the Eagles could get Boldin for a 1st and a 3rd and they're not going to.
which means any team can get him for a 1st and 3rd, which means it will cost a lot more
Quote from: reese125 on April 16, 2009, 01:05:40 PM
which means any team can get him for a 1st and 3rd, which means it will cost a lot more
Not THAT many teams are willing to part with their ONLY #1 and a 3.
Considering the Eagles are the only (I think) team with 2 firsts...AND the need for a WR desperately....it doesn't mean "ANY" team will go for him.
He'd be worth both #1s.
i cant imagine them getting more than a 1 and a 3 for him
maybe a 1 3 and 4 for boldin and a 5 or something like that but for just boldin a 1 and 3 sounds about right
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 16, 2009, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 16, 2009, 01:05:40 PM
which means any team can get him for a 1st and 3rd, which means it will cost a lot more
Not THAT many teams are willing to part with their ONLY #1 and a 3.
Considering the Eagles are the only (I think) team with 2 firsts...AND the need for a WR desperately....it doesn't mean "ANY" team will go for him.
im sure other teams are willing to part with their #1 because they have already penciled in some wr's they are targeting to pick in rd 1
and there are a plethora of other teams above the eagles in the draft that are in a big need of a wideout 1st before their other picks..and the eagles are not desperate for a wr only the fans are
Pizza-flavored Goldfish are the shtein.
Quote from: Rome on April 16, 2009, 01:26:25 PM
Pizza-flavored Goldfish are the shtein.
That doesn't sound very possible
Isn't Matthew Hatchette still available? Problem solved.
this conversation would not be happening if the eagles hadn't given up on na brown.
this is farging hilarious, The Eagles now have a legit shot at him, have two first round picks, and wont make the move.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 16, 2009, 01:56:57 PM
this is farging hilarious, The Eagles now have a legit shot at him, have two first round picks, and wont make the move.
No way it could happen between now and next Saturday.
Quote from: Rome on April 16, 2009, 11:21:06 AM
Reid has no problems packaging picks to trade up to get busts like McDougle but he'll run the NYC Marathon in under 3 hours before he packages 2 #1's to get a proven superstar, especially a receiver.
Fire Reid.
The end.
:-D :-D :-D
I just imagined Reid running.
every single wr that becomes available has the eagles name on it for a reason
their agents know the eagles always have the loot and the picks-- which drives up the market value for their client which results in a huge pay day from a sucker squad
Brilliant analysis, reese. Have you ever considered writing for television?
I havent heard back from MDS yet
The Eagles haven't gave up nearly this much in a trade for a WR in the past. Then again, when was the last time a WR as good as Boldin was available for trade? That is excluding Moss who just came off of a lot of character issues who no one but NE wanted.
Plus the Eagles apparently are enamored with Boldin. With both firsts this year, I think the Eagles would do a deal like that this year if only this year. Especially if the 21st pick comes and Moreno, Pettigrew are already gone.
Quote from: King Cole on April 16, 2009, 02:57:49 PM
Then again, when was the last time a WR as good as Boldin was available for trade?
really?
Openly available. Chad Johnson doesn't count, but he was never truly on the market. Cinci always said they won't trade him and it would take more than 2 first rounders for him last year.
If you got some names of WRs that were available as good as Boldin, start dropping them. By all means.
It's only a matter of time before someone brings up that bum Roy Williams who isn't even on the same planet as Boldin.
btwn reese and cole i cant believe the analysis here doesnt attract a lot more traffic to this site
Me either. I luv me sum them.
i see what you did there. very cleaver. that must be why you're in charge.
Quote from: King Cole on April 16, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
Openly available. Chad Johnson doesn't count, but he was never truly on the market. Cinci always said they won't trade him and it would take more than 2 first rounders for him last year.
If you got some names of WRs that were available as good as Boldin, start dropping them. By all means.
It's only a matter of time before someone brings up that bum Roy Williams who isn't even on the same planet as Boldin.
you just dont get it. it's funny and equally tragic.
the difference is everything Ive said to this point is all fact unlike some other dreamers in here
dont hate recognize
i recognize that you seem to have no clue when the last time a reciever of boldin's caliber was available for trade.
not quite sure why you are talking to me about this statement
because i have a hard time telling you and cole apart.
or youre just an idiot?
man, youve been trying to communicate with me in a bad way since you got back here...congrats
Why does anyone care what receiver we(us) get...really...we all know he WILL get hurt sometime before we are able to enjoy watching him make any kind of contribution to the team...so its not use arguing...so we might as well go after a center and convert him into a receiver...you cant tell me he won't be good for at least a 2 to 3 yards per catch...no corner will be bumping him off the line.
didn't see this anywhere yet:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4077093
QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles are close to working out a trade with the Buffalo Bills to acquire left tackle Jason Peters, multiple sources said Friday.
A great success story for the Bills, Peters was an undrafted tight end out of Arkansas. The Bills turned him into an offensive lineman and he ended up starting 10 games by his second season. Buffalo eventually turned him into one of the best left tackles in the game.
Gargano is saying it's not done, but it's imminent and will happen soon
Well, that would just about kill any talk about trading for Boldin.
not necessarily...give up the other first and a 3rd. those two are better than any first round picks you could make
Reid thinks he'll be a dreamy fullback - or maybe move him to DE.
sounds like it's a 1st (28) and a fourth
Well, that brings the offense right back up to last year's level of adequate. Woo.
Peters - ?? - Jackson - Andrews - Andrews
I guess wost manneans is the starter, with "challenges" coming from Cole and Jean-Gilles. Will MJG even be ready to play?
Cole/Manneans/ Jean-Gilles will battle out for the LG spot - IMO.
At least it means no OT in the first round....
Cole will probably battle for the center spot too
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2009, 01:29:56 PM
not necessarily...give up the other first and a 3rd. those two are better than any first round picks you could make
I don't think they'd trade both first round picks.
Quote from: mikey418 on April 17, 2009, 01:46:10 PM
At least it means no OT in the first round....
Well, they already took an OT in the first round, it seems.
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
Cole will probably battle for the center spot too
Good point.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 17, 2009, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 17, 2009, 01:29:56 PM
not necessarily...give up the other first and a 3rd. those two are better than any first round picks you could make
I don't think they'd trade both first round picks.
we can pray O:)
Now they're free to use that other first round pick on a defensive tackle.
they'll trade their first for someone's 2010 and move to the 2nd to draft a Center....
What's this about Sheldon Brown asking for a trade?
I just saw it on SportsCenter. WTF?
yeah, let's talk about it here too.
to bring you up to speed...only phillymic has gone the "he signed a contract" route, but in the face of much mockery is rapidly reworking his messege. everyone else has staked out typical positions. in a couple hours we'll get a ten page explosion of vigy arguing with someone dumb enough to engage him on it, etc.
I need a cigarette
i just took up smoking again, and it feels glorious
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2009, 02:38:34 PM
i just took up smoking again, and it feels glorious
i hope your cancer turns black
are you gonna eat it, Kurt
I have no idea where to put this - some schmuck just called into WIP saying his wife's stepdad is an Eagles ass't coach and he says the Boldin trade between the teams is done and now they are working on a contract. Says it will 95% get done.
He called Peters deal done early Friday morning too, so maybe there is some validity to it...
don't call me a schmuck
what'd you smoke at the DMB concert?
lmao
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 21, 2009, 03:02:23 PM
I have no idea where to put this - some schmuck just called into WIP saying his wife's stepdad is an Eagles ass't coach and he says the Boldin trade between the teams is done and now they are working on a contract. Says it will 95% get done.
He called Peters deal done early Friday morning too, so maybe there is some validity to it...
i didnt hear that?
my bad - 950 w/ Jody Mac
That pic is pretty cool though. Rusty is jealous.
He's not jealous of the poses with Dave or Tim Reynolds, but he's REALLY jealous of the hat-to-the-side look.
I see no picture anywhere and can therefore not provide a sufficiently snarky response to you idiots.
I, for one, believe Die-Hard's post, and can't wait for the news to break tomorrow.
this shtein better happen or i'm gonna farg die-hard up...when he's not looking...and drunk...and passed out
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
this shtein better happen or i'm gonna farg die-hard up...when he's not looking...and drunk...and passed out
and 10 years older
and converted from Judiasm
and castrated
And naked.
Too far?
Too predictable?
both.
it's comforting really.
Thank god.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 21, 2009, 03:02:23 PM
I have no idea where to put this - some schmuck just called into WIP saying his wife's stepdad is an Eagles ass't coach and he says the Boldin trade between the teams is done and now they are working on a contract. Says it will 95% get done.
He called Peters deal done early Friday morning too, so maybe there is some validity to it...
light bulb head is reporting on espn right now that baltimore is the front runner for boldin. says they are willing to give up a 1st rounder but not the 3rd and that a b-more player (todd heap) may be involved instead of the pick.
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
this shtein better happen or i'm gonna farg die-hard up...when he's not looking...and drunk...and passed out... and high, after puking... and head-banging random wachovia lot trash...
it would be rather ironic if the ravens did wind up with boldin too since the last time the eagles and ravens were fighting over a reciever, the eagles "won."
Pretty sure the Eagles don't give a damn where Boldin goes
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 21, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
Pretty sure the Eagles don't give a damn where Boldin goes
They care - they absolutely do not want him in Philly
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 21, 2009, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 21, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
Pretty sure the Eagles don't give a damn where Boldin goes
They care - they absolutely do not want him in Philly
:-D :-D :-D
QuoteMeanwhile, the Eagles signed a local tight end, Eugene Bright, a native of Rosemont, Pa.
Bright, who played defensive end at Purdue, played tight end and strong safety in high school. After going undrafted last year, Bright didn't play in the NFL last season.
missing. link.
Bright's already an upgrade over Schoebel
Espn insider is reporting that we are swooping in on the edwards deal.
no
we?
lol
who wants to make a brian urlacher joke?
Edwards thing must be true since its insider information
I wonder what GAYLORD_FOCKER's inside sources would say about this deal.
He'd say there is some interest on the Eagles part but they're not willing to part with their 1st round pick.
Haha. farging GAYLORD_FOCKER.
Morts reporting the Eagles are talking to the Raiders about a trade for Derrick Burgess
roftlolocopter
Not really sure what they're thinking, they already have a younger cheaper version of him on the roster (Clemons)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 24, 2009, 06:45:17 PM
Morts reporting the Eagles are talking to the Raiders about a trade for Derrick Burgess
I'm not drunk enough to fall for that.
Fail.
if you don't believe me log on to the EMB, I just merged 34 threads about it
I posted a thread asking Spadaro to spill the farging beans about the pick early.
It's totally gonna happen this year. I can feel it.
GTFO...for real?
Is he even a fastball anymore?
I'd bring him back, but not for anything crazy
BRACHING NEWS:
LEINART & BOLDIN TO TITANS FOR 1ST, 2ND & MONEY.
Go Find it.
Bullshtein.
Quote from: hbionic on April 24, 2009, 07:30:14 PM
BRACHING NEWS:
LEINART & BOLDIN TO TITANS FOR 1ST, 2ND & MONEY.
Go Find it.
Holly shtienmas bettman!!
uh huh.
Quote
Was just watching SportsCenter and they had a breaking news alert that said the Titans were offering a 2nd round pick and a player (unnamed) to the Cardinals for Anquan Boldin. Apparently, they have received permission to speak with his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, about a new contract as well. Holy hell.
Not sure who the player may be. Tulloch? Stamer? Harris? Amano?
We may actually have something to be excited about this off-season.
Much more to come...
UPDATE: Arizona has made a statement that saying no team has made an offer as of yet for Boldin. Maybe not, but that doesn't mean one won't. We should find out a lot more here pretty soon. Stay tuned Titans fans.
Link (http://titansized.com/2009/04/24/boldin-to-titans-rumors-flying-around-the-interweb/)
LOL
Im bored with this shtein, when do the sixers come on!!
Leroy Hill is now a FA Seattle removed his tag, would be a nice addition to the team.
So they signed MDS' boy Adam DiMichele as a camp arm.
good kid, hell be fine
lots of buttonhook drills with gasperson
Supposedly Pisa Tinoisamoa is visiting next week and will decide between the Eagles, Bills and Bears...
Vai's 5th cousin.
He's a real pisa work.
He's ok...better than Akeeeeem.
And much better than Munson's "funny".
now this would be interesting.
From Philly.com
QuoteLinebacker not visiting Eagles, sources say
Free-agent linebacker Pisa Tinoisamoa is not scheduled to visit the Eagles next week, according to team sources, despite an ESPN.com report indicating a visit has been arranged.
Tinoisamoa, 27, was cut two weeks ago by the St. Louis Rams. He visited with the Buffalo Bills last week and is in Chicago today meeting with the Bears, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. In 2003, Tinoisamoa was the first rookie to lead the Rams franchise in tackles, playing under current Bears head coach Lovie Smith and defensive coordinator Bob Babich.
Oh shtein, there's a sniper. Get down!
I think that one went over my head
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
He's ok...better than Akeeeeem.
And much better than Munson's "funny".
I'm always down for a terrible pun.
Quote from: Munson on May 21, 2009, 05:07:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
He's ok...better than Akeeeeem.
And much better than Munson's "funny".
I'm always down for a terrible pun.
So now Rome agrees with Cole AND Munson on everything. Solid.
I think we all agree on one thing... you're super.
Yes, I think all can agree on that.
Hooker walks up to an old Jewish guy and says: "Hi, I'm Candy, how about some SUPER sex!?!
Jewish guy thinks meh, I'll take the soup.
I'm pretty sure Adam Kaplan just said Stewart Bradley is "one of the best MLB's in the league."
:sly
I don't buy it but that seems to be a growing opinion.
Bradley will make the pro bowl in 2009.
Quote from: King Cole on May 24, 2009, 06:23:24 PM
Bradley will make the pro bowl in 2009.
He may just have almost the right amount of hype built up. If the Eagles make a big play-off push that might just push him over the top. I think he will have to pick off a pass or two and be used a bit in the blitz game but the pro-bowl is all about hype and if and only if the Eagles make a run I mean like 12-13 wins would he have a honest shot.
am i on the emb?
stewart bradley is a decent lb. i like him.......mostly because no one better is available. and if he makes the pro bowl, then i'd say it gives the nfl all star game an insurmountable lead over all other all star games in the lameness category.
Maybe they can spice it up with an endzone dance competition.
so you think you can endzone dance? i think it would work, but only if some obscure brittish dude that no one in america knows is the main host/judge.
So, the Prime Minister then?
i'd prefer to keep religion out of it if possible.
So no Salisbury Rabbi, I guess.
I am wiiide open for bets on Stewart Bradley not making the probowl. Name your odds, hes not going.
The cost of a ticket to the game, plus $1. You didn't say he had to play in it.
outsmarted again.
James Thrash To Retire? Freddie Mitchell Eyes Return? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/193718-thrash-to-retire-freddie-mitchell-eyes-return)
QuoteWashington taterskin wide receiver and former Philadelphia Eagle James Thrash may be forced to retire due a lingering neck injury that may require surgery, according to the Washington Times.
QuoteJim Zorn is rumored to be backpacking in the Midwest in a search for Mitchell, who was last seen drifting along the open roads, taking random jobs in small towns, and absolutely destroying the local eighth-grade competition in the games after school.
Ineligible Kentucky DE visiting Eagles before supplemental draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4240533)
He's ballin.
Wonder how long it takes for someone to disagree. I say next post.
I agree - he really is ballin'
Personally, I disagree with Cole. By my standards, he's not even close to ballin'
I thought he was dealin'. Wait, am I using that right?
Only if you're referring to Crutchfield and Buckhalter.
apparently MJG is now a Rosenhaus client
I don't know where else to put this... (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2ffeatures%2frumors)
QuoteRumors: In odd move, K. Kolb now trade bait
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
I don't know where else to put this... (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2ffeatures%2frumors)
QuoteRumors: In odd move, K. Kolb now trade bait
That 8th round draft choice is gold...
Quote from: rjs246 on June 10, 2009, 06:12:52 PMRumors: In odd move, K. Kolb now trade bait
Is that all it said on the insider? I wouldn't think he'd have any value, but I wouldn't have dreamed of the Eagles getting a 2nd rounder from the Phins for Feeley either
I'm sure that'll get the Cards to change their minds about Boldin.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20090611_Eagles_Notes___Jean-Gilles_seeks_deal__hires_Rosenhaus.html
Good luck with that, fatboy. He's a halfway decent guard coming off an injury who was outplayed by Nick Cole.
i cant wait for the time when an eagle signs with rosenhaus and it isnt news
the guy has like 150 clients and because of the TO thing 100 years ago its somehow "news" anytime a bird signs with him...give it up people
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 11, 2009, 09:05:55 AM
i cant wait for the time when an eagle signs with rosenhaus and it isnt news
the guy has like 150 clients and because of the TO thing 100 years ago its somehow "news" anytime a bird signs with him...give it up people
true dat.
of course, this is really 2 news stories wrapped up into one though because he's also asking for a new deal which is sort of worth reporting regardless of who his agent is.
exactly...i can see it being news anytime any player switches agents because it could potentially mean hes angling for something...but even at that players switch agents all the time and dont ask for new deals or more money...sometimes its just a comfort change...or a buddy in the locker room talks about how great his agent is and a guy switches
MJG probably heard about the Buffet Rosenhaus has at his office
My first reaction was wtf, he's not even a starter, what is it with all the players on this team? Then I realized he's in the last year of his contract, so I can't blame a player for asking for a new deal in that situation. The way the cba is right now, he'll be a RFA for 2 more years so it gives the team a lot more leverage and can retain him at a low salary.
QuoteHollis Thomas Takes Physical
Written by Garry Cobb
I've learned from a league source that former Eagles defensive tackle Hollis Thomas came to Philadelphia a week ago and took a physical. There's a chance he might rejoin the Birds.
Thomas, who was released by the New Orleans Saints after playing in only 8 games, has been contacted by a total of eight teams and the Eagles are one of them.
I could understand the Eagles bringing Thomas back to the defense if he keeps his weight under control. Thomas is an outstanding run defender when his weight is around the 320-330 pound mark.
He's very strong at the point of attack and does a good job taking on the double team. Thomas isn't much of a pass rusher but occassionally he will break through for a sack or pressure on the passer.
He would be brought in as a backup and serve as an insurance policy for Mike Paterson, Brodrick Bunkley and Trevor Laws.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 17, 2009, 09:49:02 PM
QuoteHollis Thomas Takes Physical
Written by Garry Cobb
I've learned from a league source that former Eagles defensive tackle Hollis Thomas came to Philadelphia a week ago and took a physical. There's a chance he might rejoin the Birds.
Thomas, who was released by the New Orleans Saints after playing in only 8 games, has been contacted by a total of eight teams and the Eagles are one of them.
I could understand the Eagles bringing Thomas back to the defense if he keeps his weight under control. Thomas is an outstanding run defender when his weight is around the 320-330 pound mark.
He's very strong at the point of attack and does a good job taking on the double team. Thomas isn't much of a pass rusher but occassionally he will break through for a sack or pressure on the passer.
He would be brought in as a backup and serve as an insurance policy for Mike Paterson, Brodrick Bunkley and Trevor Laws.
FARGIN AWESOME!! I love fargin Hollis! woooohooooo make it happen mother fargers.
anyone know why the Saints didn't want him?
Too much bass installed in Tom Benson's Escalade?
who cares, get get get....
blows
Damn right. I luv HT. Bring him back, Spongebob and all.
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 17, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
anyone know why the Saints didn't want him?
because hollis kept eating all the creole during team meals.
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 17, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
anyone know why the Saints didn't want him?
Bad gas.
(http://www.concretefield.info/uploads/PhillyGirl/hollis_01.jpg)
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 19, 2009, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on June 17, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
anyone know why the Saints didn't want him?
Bad gas.
(http://www.concretefield.info/uploads/PhillyGirl/hollis_01.jpg)
:-D
shtein, I want him back just to get more pics like that one.