Last years thread for shteins and giggles (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=18008.0)
So this is a "goodbye, thanks for 2006" thread...
its a "move me to the nfl board thread"
I'll go the SunMo route:
If you use my thread you'll get lots of random Alba pictures
(http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/654/654510/jessica-alba-20050928050614425.jpg)
SunMo doesnt post red X's
IGN blocked? Worked OK for me.
So....compensation picks, huh? Alright, well see you later....
That would explain it. Any Game related stuff is a Corporate violation :-D
Also stolen from SunMo (my hero):
Quotethis is on life support....
so, I think the Eagles need a WR to compliment Reggie Brown, they also need DT and LB help
De Ja Vu
Imageshack:
Learn it, love it, use it.
(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5972/jessicaalba200509280506jf0.jpg)
Needs that go unaddressed, are addressed poorly, or are patched short-term one year tend to remain the next.
Weird!
fargs wrong with her body there...her stomach is long as shtein
i dont like it
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
fargs wrong with her body there...her stomach is long as shtein
i dont like it
^^likes caulk^^
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
fargs wrong with her body there...her stomach is long as shtein
i dont like it
Oh, please... :-D
She could dress up in one of these... (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif) and you'd still hit it.
anyone could dress in one of those and vigy would get randy
i dont get it but im sure it was a good one
Joey Porter was just cut
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 01, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Joey Porter was just cut
My head says no, my heart says yes, and my loins are undecided.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 01, 2007, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 01, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Joey Porter was just cut
My head says no, my heart says yes, and my loins are undecided.
Banner's head says no, his heart says no, and his loins also say no.
Banner doesn't have a heart... nor loins for that matter.
SIGN PORTER!!
Bring back Levon Kirkland and Barry Gardner!
If the Eagles signed both Porter and Foley, they'd have two LB's that got shot. Whoever would end up starting with them would have to go see Britt Reid to fit in.
or McDougle
I don't think this thread can start until we actually sign a free agent.
So, see you in August when they pick up 6 castoff WR's to replace stallworth.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 01, 2007, 05:26:59 PM
or McDougle
McDougle to MLB - Foley at SLB - Porter at WLB
GENIUS!! GO SPREAD THE WORD ON THE TATE!
Pasquerfatty lists his top 30 UFA's (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2784159&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Here's the shocking part... the Eagles aren't listed as a possible landing spot for any of them.
I thought Ken Hamlin would be ranked higher. He's Michael Lewis with a head injury who's better in coverage.
DT Anthony Adams (former PSU'er) is intriguing.
Nothings happening.
You're not doing it right
QuotePOSTED 11:25 p.m. EST, March 1, 2007
EAGLES WON'T BE ACTIVE EARLY
To all of the folks in Philly who are F5ing like crazy, don't expect to see any news tonight of one or more big-money signings.
Per a league source, the Eagles don't intend to be active in the first phase of free agency.
It makes sense. The notoriously conservative Philly front office will not want to be setting the standard for future deals. Instead, they're likely to take a wait-and-see approach, and then to possibly make a couple of needs-based acquisitions of lower-tier players.
SHOCKING!
Some updates:
Kerney - visiting Seattle and Denver
Daniel Graham - visiting Denver, then Oakland. Minny, NO, and Seattle have shown interest.
Lelie - visiting Houston and Minny
Kris Dielman - visiting Seattle
Steinbach - visiting Cleveland
Garcia visiting Oakland
Joe Horn released by the Saints....
Is this thread for just the 9 Eagles that are about to leave?
Jason Whittle, OL from the Vikes, signs with the Bills in the first FA signing per PFT.com
Quote49ers | Clements talking to team
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:36:40 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent CB Nate Clements (Bills) is talking with the San Francisco 49ers.
Titans | Clements talking to team
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:34:44 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent CB Nate Clements (Bills) is talking with the Tennessee Titans.
Browns | Clements talking to team
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:32:36 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent CB Nate Clements (Bills) is talking with the Cleveland Browns.
Giants | D. Rhodes expected to visit
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:30:20 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent RB Dominic Rhodes (Colts) is expected to visit the New York Giants.
49ers | A. Thomas expected to visit
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:27:56 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent LB Adalius Thomas (Ravens) is expected to visit the San Francisco 49ers.
Buccaneers | Griffith planning to visit team
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:26:00 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent FB Justin Griffith (Falcons) is planning to visit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Jaguars | Pashos scheduled to visit Friday
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:23:55 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent OT Tony Pashos (Ravens) is scheduled to visit the Jacksonville Jaguars Friday, March 2.
Cowboys | Talks with L. Davis heating up
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:22:00 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports talks between the Dallas Cowboys and free agent OT Leonard Davis (Cardinals) are heating up. Davis has not scheduled a trip because he is negotiating with at least three NFC East teams.
Vikings | Shiancoe scheduled to visit Friday
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:19:31 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent TE Visanthe Shiancoe (Giants) is scheduled to visit with the Minnesota Vikings Friday, March 2.
Vikings | Visit scheduled with K. Curtis
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:17:37 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent WR Kevin Curtis (Rams) is scheduled to visit with the Minnesota Vikings first, but there could be weather problems.
Browns | Steinbach to visit team Friday
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:04:18 -0800
Tony Grossi, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports free agent OG Eric Steinbach (Bengals) will visit the Cleveland Browns Friday, March 2.
Buccaneers | Team has interest in Petitgout
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:59:38 -0800
Jim Flynn, of PewterReport.com, reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have interest in free agent OT Luke Petitgout (Giants). He passed a physical with the team Wednesday, Feb. 28.
Buccaneers | Steinbach will visit team Saturday
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:48 -0800
Jim Flynn, of PewterReport.com, reports free agent OG Eric Steinbach (Bengals) will visit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Saturday, March 3.
Chargers | Dielman is top priority
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:51:23 -0800
Casey Pearce, of Chargers.com, reports the San Diego Chargers will make re-signing OG Kris Dielman one of their top priorities this offseason. "Kris is the top priority," Smith said. "We're keeping our fingers crossed and hoping we can work something out. Again, it's what's in the best interest for us. Kris will do what's in the best interest for him and his family. This is a business. We're professional people in a professional league. We'll see how it plays out, but we'll do what we can." Dielman is viewed as one of the top players in this year's free agent class.
Jaguars | Carroll offered low tender
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:47:21 -0800
Vic Ketchman, of Jaguars.com, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have assigned CB Ahmad Carroll a low tender.
Vikings | Team has an interest in Bennett
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:45:43 -0800
Judd Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings have an interest in free agent WR Drew Bennett (Titans).
Bills | Whittle will visit team Friday
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:43:52 -0800
Judd Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports free agent OG Jason Whittle (Vikings) will visit the Buffalo Bills Friday, March 2.
Some more stuff.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 01, 2007, 04:32:30 PM
SIGN PORTER!!
He and McDougle can swap stories about getting shot.
Giants re-signed Center Shaun O'hara (5 years, $19 million, $7.5 SB)
I can feel the excitement!
Its like a volcano waiting to burst ::)
Browns re-signed Fraley
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 01:16:45 AM
Is this thread for just the 9 Eagles that are about to leave?
I would certainly assume so, since this thread is in Eagles Talk.
Even though I know it's coming, I'm going to be furious when Stallworth signs with another team
Giants are looking at Hood and Lewis
QuoteCB Rod Hood: Another former Eagle who could be in the mix, especially since none of the Giants cornerbacks have distinguished themselves.
S Michael Lewis: He fell out of favor in Philly and lost his starting job. But he has ability and played well while Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was the Eagles' defensive backs coach
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2007, 09:11:38 AM
Even though I know it's coming, I'm going to be furious when Stallworth signs with another team
yep...
i love all the stallworth is gonna be overpaid and not worth it people....the same people would be laughing hysterically at the giants cowboys or taterskins had they given up a draft pick for a guy and then six months later lost him
juqua signed - 5 year deal
i personally think they are gonna sign a linebacker...but its entirely possible that at 9:42am day one the eagles could be done in free agency
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 09:36:56 AM
i love all the stallworth is gonna be overpaid and not worth it people....the same people would be laughing hysterically at the giants cowboys or taterskins had they given up a draft pick for a guy and then six months later lost him
... and they'll be the ones screaming the loudest when Baskett and/or Avant don't give us shtein in a starter's role..
I'm glad they signed Jaqua. He's a solid back-up rotation guy. As long as Kearse is here, your gonna need a quality back-up for when he goes limping off the field or for a real injury :-\
Oh and I will also be furious when I see where Stallworth goes. The talk that Lewis or Hood could go to the Gints is almost equally annoying/
i dont really care about lewis or hood so much as im concerned with who is gonna replace them
i will chuckle next year tho when lewis decapitates baskett
Quote from: mussa on March 02, 2007, 09:47:30 AM
I'm glad they signed Jaqua. He's a solid back-up rotation guy. As long as Kearse is here, your gonna need a quality back-up for when he goes limping off the field or for a real injury :-\
prediction: Juqua will play more downs in '07 than Kearse (and maybe more than Howard too).
No way! Baskett is our deep threat nxt yr! Everyone knows Lewis can't cover, he'll never get the chance
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 03:34:05 AM
QuoteCowboys | Talks with L. Davis heating up
Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:22:00 -0800
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports talks between the Dallas Cowboys and free agent OT Leonard Davis (Cardinals) are heating up. Davis has not scheduled a trip because he is negotiating with at least three NFC East teams.
They're scared of Cole.
its the cowboys and giants
eagles and taterskins are obviously not talking to him
2 < 3
Not sure if this was posted or not, but it should pretty much serve to remove any lingering doubt....
Spads:
Quote
WIDE RECEIVER
Donté Stallworth is a free agent who is expected to draw a lot of interest. He won't be back with the Eagles. So the team turns to Reggie Brown to be more of a lead receiver throughout the season, and the Eagles think he is ready for that responsibility. Second-year men Hank Baskett and Jason Avant will have a chance for more playing time, along with veteran Greg Lewis. Youngsters Jeremy Bloom and Bill Sampy and Michael Gasperson :puke are next in line for competition.
Do the Eagles need another receiver? Can they replace Stallworth's speed? Do they feel they need to go out and get somebody to stretch defenses?
Well, the Eagles have said they would have been OK at wide receiver had they not traded for Stallworth last year. Maybe they feel that way again. Then again, maybe they have a plan to put in place between now and the end of the draft. Stay tuned.
:boom :boom :boom
lol @ bill sampy...i will cuss him out if i see him at lehigh again this year
Well, the Eagles have said they would have been OK at wide receiver had they not traded for Stallworth last year
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then why did you trade a draft pick for a WR?
I love this time of year. The excitement is out of control.
i feel my blood pressure going up after reading that, it's farging sickening
5 yrs, $12.5M (possible $13.5M w/ incentives), $4.2M SB
Quote from: SunMo on March 02, 2007, 10:30:33 AM
i feel my blood pressure going up after reading that, it's farging sickening
Bill Sampy or Michael Gasperson is going to see playing time in meaningful games in an Eagles uniform this season.
How does that make you feel?
QuoteWell, the Eagles have said they would have been OK at wide receiver had they not traded for Stallworth last year. Maybe they feel that way again. Then again, maybe they have a plan to put in place between now and the end of the draft. Stay tuned.
Unless that plan includes drafting Calvin Johnson, which we all know it doesn't... it's a bullshtein plan.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 02, 2007, 10:31:36 AM
Bill Sampy or Michael Gasperson is going to see playing time in meaningful games in an Eagles uniform this season.
How does that make you feel?
like dancing...
on Joe Banner's soul
sampy and/or gasperon will never ever make an nfl team much less play and spads knows this
he clearly threw their names in there to piss people off/try to be funny
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 10:31:15 AM
5 yrs, $12.5M (possible $13.5M w/ incentives), $4.2M SB
Who do those figures belong to? Juqua?
yup
Davenport re-signed with Pittsburgh...2 yrs, $2M
joey porter is one of my top 3 most hated nfl players yet i would like the eagles to get him.
Great Blue North is reporting that the 2008 draft pick from Cleveland in the Fraley trade jumped from a 6th-rd pick to a 5th-rd pick.
Get Trent Cole
very nice
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 11:08:46 AM
Great Blue North is reporting that the 2008 draft pick from Cleveland in the Fraley trade jumped from a 6th-rd pick to a 5th-rd pick.
I'm deciding whether the Juqua signing or that piece of info is the most exciting news of the day.
I'm going with Juqua. He's at least capable of making some plays and getting some pressure, unlike most of the Eagles defensive linemen and linebackers.
QuoteClements signed by San Francisco
Friday, March 2, 2007 at 07:35:32 PT - Printer-friendly version
Source: 49erswebzone.com
According to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com, free agent Nate Clements has been signed or will soon sign with the San Francisco 49ers. The report comes from Thomas Sorrell, a writer for RealFootball365.
Email from Geoff Hobson:
Clements is gone to san fran for $23 M to sign - a deal the Bengals could have done if they cut the few guys who do play defense.
If this is true, the 49ers will likely make the announcement later today.
Link (http://www.49erswebzone.com/content/news/view.php?id=8896)
Not sure of the validity of the source.
Apparently Jake Plummer was traded to Tampa. Looks like its Oaktown for Garcia.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 02, 2007, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 11:08:46 AM
Great Blue North is reporting that the 2008 draft pick from Cleveland in the Fraley trade jumped from a 6th-rd pick to a 5th-rd pick.
I'm deciding whether the Juqua signing or that piece of info is the most exciting news of the day.
I'm going with Juqua. He's at least capable of making some plays and getting some pressure, unlike most of the Eagles defensive linemen and linebackers.
Wait, are you saying that linebackers are supposed to make plays in the back field? Like, where the quarterback hangs out until he finds an open receiver?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2007, 11:24:01 AM
Apparently Jake Plummer was traded to Tampa. Looks like its Oaktown for Garcia.
...or Denver.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 02, 2007, 11:32:12 AM
Wait, are you saying that linebackers are supposed to make plays in the back field? Like, where the quarterback hangs out until he finds an open receiver?
I don't even know anymore. It's been so long since I can remember an Eagles linebacker doing that.
An Eagles linebacker's job is merely to "compete out there," not make actual plays.
You guys know that. Come on.
moss is still available ppl! think about it!
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 02, 2007, 12:03:26 PM
moss is still available ppl! think about it!
Magical_Retard
oh poor Garcia if he goes to oaktown. career over
Quote from: mussa on March 02, 2007, 12:08:55 PM
oh poor Garcia if he goes to oaktown. career over
I would think that with a choice between starting Oakland and being a backup in Philly with a good chance of getting playing time, he'd probably want to come back. The funnies part is that the Eagles completely closed the door on him making any decision like that. Nice job, FO.
I don't blame the FO for this at all. Yes, Garcia gave the team a glimpse of two things they haven't really had in the McNabb/Reid era: balancing the offense and emotional leadership at the QB position. But with McNabb and all his injury problems, they need two things from the QB position: a capable backup and a QB of the future. Feeley was already under contract and is a capable backup. Obviously, neither he nor Garcia would be a true QB of the future. This way, they have a roster spot open to pick up a kid and see how he does.
Letting Garcia get his dollars elsewhere is a decision I support completely. Re-upping Feeley is questionable, but the price is cheap, and it keeps the team solid at backup QB and allows for a complete project at the 3rd QB spot.
I would think that with a choice between starting Oakland and being a backup in Philly with a good chance of getting playing time, he'd probably want to come back. The funnies part is that the Eagles completely closed the door on him making any decision like that. Nice job, FO.
thats what im saying...again i could care less about garcia...but the way the team does business sometimes is baffling...why re-up feely before garcia hits the market and possibly doesnt find what hes looking for and you have an opportunity to bring him back at your price
thats all i was saying with lewis too...perhaps he goes out and doesnt get the huge offers he thought he would...not saying that would happen but if it did the eagles eliminated any option they might have had to bring him back by destroying their relationship with him
now...if mcnabb isnt ready and feely stinks or god forbid gets hurt and if considine continues to show he doesnt belong in the nfl the what are the other options?
timmy chang and quinten mikell???
i'm ok with letting Lewis go ONLY if they draft a safety in the 1st round. if they don't do that, and Considine is the starting safety, this team is in trouble.
Estimates vary, but the Eagles appear to have about $6.5 million to spend after deducting roughly $3 million being slotted for incoming rookies and draft picks. If defensive end Juqua Thomas come to terms today, as expected, there may be even less cash available.
-- Newark Star-Ledger
Quote
PLUMMER RETIRES
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer has retired in lieu of being traded to Tampa.
Word of the trade broke earlier this morning, but recent published reports suggested that Plummer might pack it in.
Plummer has played 10 NFL seasons. We have a weird feeling that, after a year or so on the sidelines, he might be lured back. The Cardinals, for example, will need a backup after Kurt Warner retires, and it would be fitting for Plummer to end his career there.
Well, looks like Garcia has a better option suddenly.
i'm ok with letting Lewis go ONLY if they draft a safety in the 1st round. if they don't do that, and Considine is the starting safety, this team is in trouble.
right its all about what your plan b is...most years there are only a few players on your team that you would really care about leaving...the real concerns come with what you are you replacing the guys with
like feva said if the eagles were gonna draft calvin johnson...or were crazy deep at wr then would anyone really care about stallworth leaving?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 12:40:35 PM
right its all about what your plan b is...most years there are only a few players on your team that you would really care about leaving...the real concerns come with what you are you replacing the guys with
like feva said if the eagles were gonna draft calvin johnson...or were crazy deep at wr then would anyone really care about stallworth leaving?
That's why I get mad when people bring up players that were let go and didn't perform in other places, like that's a win for the FO. What you have to look at is who they were replaced with. When they let Trotter go, they weren't able to adequately replace him until he came back. Same with Hugh, they let him go and their pass rush was awful. It's not always about what that specific player does somewhere else, it's about what you replace him with.
That's why I get mad when people bring up players that were let go and didn't perform in other places, like that's a win for the FO.
those are the same idiots that root like crazy for ex eagles to do terrible...like that somehow will help the birds...i wanna smash those people in the face with an anvil
When they let Trotter go, they weren't able to adequately replace him until he came back. Same with Hugh, they let him go and their pass rush was awful. It's not always about what that specific player does somewhere else, it's about what you replace him with.
exactly
I agree that the Eagles have a glaring hole at safety. I am 100% sure that Lewis is not the answer for it, so I really don't care where he ends up or how he does.
I'm also 99.98% sure that Considine is not the answer.
Bottom line is that keeping Lewis doesn't solve anything, but the Eagles probably won't solve the situation anyway.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 02, 2007, 12:38:55 PM
Quote
PLUMMER RETIRES
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer has retired in lieu of being traded to Tampa.
Word of the trade broke earlier this morning, but recent published reports suggested that Plummer might pack it in.
Plummer has played 10 NFL seasons. We have a weird feeling that, after a year or so on the sidelines, he might be lured back. The Cardinals, for example, will need a backup after Kurt Warner retires, and it would be fitting for Plummer to end his career there.
Well, looks like Garcia has a better option suddenly.
I find that shocking
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 02, 2007, 12:18:47 PMI would think that with a choice between starting Oakland and being a backup in Philly with a good chance of getting playing time, he'd probably want to come back. The funniest part is that the Eagles completely closed the door on him making any decision like that. Nice job, FO.
Did you see Garcia's interview yesterday? All the stuff he said about wanting to stay with a contender as a backup appeared to be BS. Now that he has no shot of returning here, he says that he talked to his dad and realized that he loves starting and would rather start anywhere than be a backup. Hope he enjoys losing and being replaced by JaMarcus...
QuoteEagles | Team interested in C. Brown
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:03:36 -0800
John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are reportedly interested in free agent RB Chris Brown (Titans).
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2007, 01:15:18 PM
QuoteEagles | Team interested in C. Brown
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:03:36 -0800
John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are reportedly interested in free agent RB Chris Brown (Titans).
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
I'll believe it when I see it. I think the last few years there was talk of the Birds and Brown. He'd maybe be a decent compliment to Westbrook, but I wouldn't get too excited over it.
anyone got that clip of Brown stiff arming Roy Williams onto his ass?
Brown has very little upside, but he did get that highlight reel clip of trucking Roy Williams, right?
I'll believe it when I see it. I think the last few years there was talk of the Birds and Brown
i agree....that was completely made up by the writer because it makes sense and not because he has any real information
id be all for it tho
Spads' article on Juqua (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=65615)
The interesting part is the last paragraph:
QuoteIs it enough of a fit, we all have to find out together, that the Eagles are now going to move on and focus on another piece of the defense, one that has to be better than it was a season ago for this team to win a Super Bowl now.
Well, assuming he's hinting that they've already addressed the line as best they can, he could be talking about safety or linebacker. Here's hoping they address one of those needs in free agency or by trade.
ive already told you they are going to sign a free agent linebacker
we all have to find out together
no spads me and you will NEVER do ANYTHING together
I asked Spadaro if he wanted to join us at the tailgate opener next year and he was looking forward to meeting you, IGY.
As bad an option as Considine is, I hope to christ they put in some serious work to improve the entire LB corps. If they overhauled that whole group with guys with playmaking potential, I would be okay with having Considine back there for another season. Considine is a total gimp in run support, but was good in coverage. With a LB or two that could help to stop the bleeding in the run game, Considine may not be such a liability.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 01:32:24 PM
ive already told you they are going to sign a free agent linebacker
What do you think about this?
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20070302/1027966.asp
He's damaged goods, but he did get a lot closer to healthy as the season went on last year. I don't see a lot of quality on the UFA lists, except Adalius Thomas.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 02, 2007, 01:35:48 PM
Considine is a total gimp in run support, but was good in coverage.
Wrong. He was better than Mike Lewis, but he was far from "good".
"Serviceable" would be about the kindest accurate descriptor.
they need to upgrade the outside spots...spieks is probably better than trot but not appreciably
Wrong. He was better than Mike Lewis, but he was far from "good".
"Serviceable" would be about the kindest accurate descriptor.
exactly...because of the lewis factor and because considine is soooo bad in the run game everyone automatically assumes hes some kind of blanket in coverage
I asked Spadaro if he wanted to join us at the tailgate opener next year and he was looking forward to meeting you, IGY.
ha...dont even joke about that romey
GET TAKEO
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 01:41:24 PM
I asked Spadaro if he wanted to join us at the tailgate opener next year and he was looking forward to meeting you, IGY.
ha...dont even joke about that romey
only if he stops at White House for subs first.
I have no beef with Spadaro, don't understand how anyone could. He's a PR guy, going his job. Unless you want to hate on him for that, which is alright. But to hate on him more than any other PR guy is stoopid.
I drafted Michael Griffin FS and Jon Beason in my madden league. Teh best draft eva
Like we've said many times, when he's away from the website he isn't afraid to say what he knows or how he really feels about the team....
Quote from: Diomedes on March 02, 2007, 01:59:02 PM
I have no beef with Spadaro, don't understand how anyone could. He's a PR guy, going his job. Unless you want to hate on him for that, which is alright. But to hate on him more than any other PR guy is stoopid.
I never understood the hatred either, I'll poke a couple of jabs his way for being too optimistic but overall he's a good PR guy.
hes a pretty good guy outside the lines. I sent him a real practice jersey of Harold Charmicheal from the 1980 season i received from a family friend and sent it to Spads who got it signed for me by Charmichael and sent it back no cost! id rather listen/read to a positive spin that Spads puts on things rather then the Burger King and his flunkies on 610 anyday!
eskin is a bigger homer than spads
homer isnt why spads is an ass...its because hes a condecending pompous ahole to people on the boards and in his articles...always telling people how ungrateful they are as eagle fans if they complain...acting like we are morons commenting on a how good or bad a player is...when he doesnt know a lick about football
hes a former high school nerd who grew up to be an adult nerd who got a job with a football team...he has no business talking football whether in a PR manner or not and he especially has no business telling me or anyone else how to be a fan
if hed just shut his mouth and write his fluff pieces hed be a running joke but at least he wouldnt come off as a douchebag trying to get abck at the world for the childhood wedgies he received
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
That's why I get mad when people bring up players that were let go and didn't perform in other places, like that's a win for the FO.
those are the same idiots that root like crazy for ex eagles to do terrible...like that somehow will help the birds...i wanna smash those people in the face with an anvil
I think the same can be said of the people who root for the replacement to do terrible, so it's a loss for the FO..
cough..cough..
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
i dont really care about lewis or hood so much as im concerned with who is gonna replace them
i will chuckle next year tho when lewis decapitates baskett
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
When they let Trotter go, they weren't able to adequately replace him until he came back. Same with Hugh, they let him go and their pass rush was awful. It's not always about what that specific player does somewhere else, it's about what you replace him with.
While agree with Trotter, I don't think Hugh could have replaced Hugh's production if he stayed that next year.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 02:00:57 PM
Like we've said many times, when he's away from the website he isn't afraid to say what he knows or how he really feels about the team....
Yep.
Eagles need to cut/trade Walker or Rayburn and fill that spot with a fat hole clogging bastich!
I think the same can be said of the people who root for the replacement to do terrible
rooting for it and laughing if it happens are two different things
no one roots for the replacements to do bad...at least not if youre an eagle fan...but at least if they fail you have the faint hope that the FO will change their ways because of it
if a player leaves and he does bad it validates the teams philosophy regardless how bad the departing players fill in becomes
hmmmm....
Received an email from NC:
QuoteWe will get going next week, I think
???
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 03:03:15 PM
hmmmm....
Received an email from NC:
QuoteWe will get going next week, I think
???
Maybe he means you & him? Did he say anything about antiquing in New Hope?
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 03:03:15 PM
hmmmm....
Received an email from NC:
QuoteWe will get going next week, I think
???
who is NC?
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 02, 2007, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 03:03:15 PM
hmmmm....
Received an email from NC:
QuoteWe will get going next week, I think
???
Maybe he means you & him? Did he say anything about antiquing in New Hope?
Hahaha
WIP mentioned more than once the Eagles have tendered an offer to Buck
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2007, 04:07:05 PM
WIP mentioned more than once the Eagles have tendered an offer to Buck
Offseason 2007 = Success!
Lewis most likely going to San Fran
Garcia most likely signing with Oakland. ThuG liFe
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 02, 2007, 04:21:37 PM
Lewis most likely going to San Fran
There is no doubt in my mind Mike Nolan will like having him around.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2007, 04:24:08 PM
Garcia most likely signing with Oakland. ThuG liFe
at least he wont be too far from San Francisco >:D
Quote
CLEMENTS, LEWIS IN THE HOUSE
Matt Maiocco of the Stanta Rosa Press-Democrat reports that cornerback Nate Clements and safety Michael Lewis were visiting the 49ers on Friday.
Neither player has signed a contract with the team, yet.
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=513127
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TEXANS IN MIX FOR GARCIA?
John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports that the Texans are interested in quarterback Jeff Garcia.
The report comes at a time when there are rumors that Garcia has reached a deal with the Raiders. We have been unable to confirm or debunk said rumors.
"Yeah, we chased him in Denver," coach Gary Kubiak, former Broncos offensive coordinator, said. "I've always been impressed with the guy. He's one tough son of a gun. He makes smart decisions. He's been productive just about everywhere he's been."
Lewis on SF > Lewis on NYG
Geez, can everybody get over the greater than/less than/equal to Internet cliche? Soooooooooooooooo played......
As much as we've bashed Lewis here, it's never good when someone signs with a divisional rival and has a chance to get even twice a year. That's why I'd rather see him back out west with an up-and-coming team that the Eagles won't face this year, instead of joining the Giants where they're a borderline playoff team and he's already familiar with the defense Spagnuolo plans to install.
It's Friday, I'm about to leave work, and I don't feel like typing out full responses, but since you wanted a full paragraph, there you go. :P
Haven't been around much and didn't even know Quintin Mikell was re-signed until yesterday...
1. The Stallworth stuff is goddamn ridiculous. Good job, FO. Just let him walk away. They are going to pimp Baskett and Avant to us. I have no problem with either of those guys when in supporting roles WITH Stallworth and Brown. But to have them replace him? Stupid.
2. Good job getting Thomas and Mikell signed. Both are role players who help out.
3. Sign a LB, please. Preferably a strongside one.
4. It's a crime that Dhani Jones was no on the transaction wire yesterday as being released.
Quote from: Zanshin on March 02, 2007, 05:47:11 PM
Geez, can everybody get over the greater than/less than/equal to Internet cliche? Soooooooooooooooo played......
Internet cliches = funny, which is > you, who is < bacon.
Ovie Mughelli to Atlanta.....6 yrs, $18M, $5M :-D
Wow, did I just read that the Bills signed Derrick Dockery away from the Skins for Steve Hutchinson/Shawn Andrews type cash?
Skins fans are pissed.
Bills just signed Langston Walker too.
They have one massive OL now.
Jason Peters
Langston Walker
Dockery
Tony Pashos from Baltimore to Jacksonville.....5 yrs, $24M
Phillip Buchanon re-signed with Tampa Bay
Corey Dillon officially released by New England
Patrick Ramsey released by NY Jets
Tyrone Poole released by Oakland
Steinbach signs with Browns for 49.5 mil over 7 years.
Guarantee he doesn't make it through training camp
Niners sign Clements for 8 years 80 million 22 million SB. :o
Highest paid defensive player EVER.
Holy shtein, that's absurd money for a CB
All this crazy money puts a different light on all the young players the Eagles re-signed for the next 5-7+ years. Patterson, Brown, and Andrews will be making between 1.2 and 3 million per year then. That chump change then might not even equal an LTBE throw in.
Andrews or Brown hitting the 2011 market could = > $35 million SB alone. And they will be making ~ 1/10th that.
Michael Lewis is a Niner (http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?mode=blog)
good for him
Tennessee is expected to cut Travis Henry tomorrow.
Too bad, I wouldn't have minded seeing Lewis with the Giants twice a year myself. Reggie Brown should be good for making Lewis trip over his shoe laces for a TD twice a game (one of which Brown drops).
Adalius Thomas to the Patriots
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 08:21:08 PM
Adalius Thomas to the Patriots
noooooo say it aint so charlie brown :(
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 02, 2007, 07:33:19 PM
Holy shtein, that's absurd money for a CB
no shtein, he also got a $22 mill signing bonus :paranoid
but its a cap friendly contract from what i hear...i just started my investigation
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! Nate Clements is a fine player but to make him the highest paid defensive player ever is a bit rediculous. Even if it is cap friendly (no offense Truck).
Skins sign Fletch for 5 years 25 mil.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! Nate Clements is a fine player but to make him the highest paid defensive player ever is a bit rediculous. Even if it is cap friendly (no offense Truck).
none taken. im still frazzled about it. i almost feel like a skins fan. :paranoid
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 08:52:01 PM
Skins sign Fletch for 5 years 25 mil.
That sucks. He's a monster and I'm pissed the Eagles will have to play him twice a year.
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 08:52:01 PM
Skins sign Fletch for 5 years 25 mil.
Hey, how about Fletch!
(http://www.pajiba.com/images/Fletch.jpg)
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 02, 2007, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 08:52:01 PM
Skins sign Fletch for 5 years 25 mil.
That sucks. He's a monster and I'm pissed the Eagles will have to play him twice a year.
He is okay, not really a monster anymore.
Quote from: TRUCK RATHMAN on March 02, 2007, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! Nate Clements is a fine player but to make him the highest paid defensive player ever is a bit rediculous. Even if it is cap friendly (no offense Truck).Â
none taken. im still frazzled about it. i almost feel like a skins fan. :paranoid
That depends.....
Ever since you found out he was signed, have you spent your time constructing a long winded letter addressed to 49ers ownership expressing your love for them and the 49ers organization and how you are confident that they will bring a championship back to San Fran despite foolish (over)spending? Â Have you created a gigantic sig with an image of Nate Clements in a 9ers uniform and put lightning bolts in the background along with some corny "catch phrase" like "Striking Fear in the Hearts of Quarterbacks." Â Have you masturbated to a picture of Mike Nolan?
If you answered no to all of the above then you do not, infact, feel like a taterskins fan. Â Â
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 09:34:10 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on March 02, 2007, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 02, 2007, 08:52:01 PM
Skins sign Fletch for 5 years 25 mil.
That sucks. He's a monster and I'm pissed the Eagles will have to play him twice a year.
He is okay, not really a monster anymore.
Yeah... third most tackles in the NFL, more interceptions than any other linebacker, more passes defended than any other linebacker... he's totally done.
Thats the talk of someone who didn't watch much Bills football in 2006.
The Raiders and Garcia have broken off talks.
Lewis' deal with SF is 6 yrs, he'll start at SS, and they're planning to use him in dime coverage. ha!
Oh, and wasn't Simoneau like top 5 in tackles back in 03? I think he was and we all know what that means. Stats don't say the whole story. Fletcher is still a solid NFL LB, but not the monster that he was. The Bills defensive line played pretty damn good last year and gave lots of help to the linebackers.
eh, Adalius Thomas was never in the mix for the Eagles anyways. Would have been great if the Eagles did make a push for him. But, of course, the LBs don't need any work.
The 49ers are just throwing around money. Clements was a good pickup, but I'd like to see how that signing bonus plays out. Mike Lewis could be a good fit there if he plays on Clements side and they man-up a lot allowing Lewis to play closer to the Line of Scrimmage.
This is going to be a boring off-season. I checked the Eagles site today too and Spads was hyping all the draft picks the Eagles will have next year if/when they lose Stallworth, Garcia, Lewis (gone), and Hood. Wonderful. A bunch of 2nd day compensatory picks... hardly something to get excited about.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: TRUCK RATHMAN on March 02, 2007, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn! Nate Clements is a fine player but to make him the highest paid defensive player ever is a bit rediculous. Even if it is cap friendly (no offense Truck).
none taken. im still frazzled about it. i almost feel like a skins fan. :paranoid
That depends.....
Ever since you found out he was signed, have you spent your time constructing a long winded letter addressed to 49ers ownership expressing your love for them and the 49ers organization and how you are confident that they will bring a championship back to San Fran despite foolish (over)spending? Have you created a gigantic sig with an image of Nate Clements in a 9ers uniform and put lightning bolts in the background along with some corny "catch phrase" like "Striking Fear in the Hearts of Quarterbacks." Have you masturbated to a picture of Mike Nolan?
If you answered no to all of the above then you do not, infact, feel like a taterskins fan.
:-D :-D :-D wtf was i thinkin
Any details on Lewis's contract? I'm interested to see what his f/a value was.
FYI-Fletcher-Baker is 31
Quote from: Eaglez on March 02, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
eh, Adalius Thomas was never in the mix for the Eagles anyways. Would have been great if the Eagles did make a push for him. But, of course, the LBs don't need any work.
The 49ers are just throwing around money. Clements was a good pickup, but I'd like to see how that signing bonus plays out. Mike Lewis could be a good fit there if he plays on Clements side and they man-up a lot allowing Lewis to play closer to the Line of Scrimmage.
This is going to be a boring off-season. I checked the Eagles site today too and Spads was hyping all the draft picks the Eagles will have next year if/when they lose Stallworth, Garcia, Lewis (gone), and Hood. Wonderful. A bunch of 2nd day compensatory picks... hardly something to get excited about.
hardly something to get excited about is right, and depending on how this offseason goes, next season could wind up the same way. Not something to get excited about.
Quote from: Eaglez on March 02, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
The 49ers are just throwing around money. Clements was a good pickup, but I'd like to see how that signing bonus plays out. Mike Lewis could be a good fit there if he plays on Clements side and they man-up a lot allowing Lewis to play closer to the Line of Scrimmage.
We didnt have a choice. Anyways, the only other FA we're going to throw that type of cash at is Thomas.
Quote from: TRUCK RATHMAN on March 02, 2007, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: Eaglez on March 02, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
The 49ers are just throwing around money. Clements was a good pickup, but I'd like to see how that signing bonus plays out. Mike Lewis could be a good fit there if he plays on Clements side and they man-up a lot allowing Lewis to play closer to the Line of Scrimmage.
We didnt have a choice. Anyways, the only other FA we're going to throw that type of cash at is Thomas.
Are you certain about that? Do you know what other teams were offering Clements? Dude's a good player and I'm positive he'd fetch a pretty penny from any team that was interested in him. I just can't see any other team making an offer so big that the 9ers had to outbid with his current contract.
Basically, I think San Fran just did with Clements, the same thing that the Rangers did with A-Rod a few years back. They outbid themselves. Only difference is that Nate Clements has never been, nor do I think he will ever be included in any discussion about the top 2 or 3 players in the NFL. At least in A-Rod's case he was clearly among the very best in the league.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: TRUCK RATHMAN on March 02, 2007, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: Eaglez on March 02, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
The 49ers are just throwing around money. Clements was a good pickup, but I'd like to see how that signing bonus plays out. Mike Lewis could be a good fit there if he plays on Clements side and they man-up a lot allowing Lewis to play closer to the Line of Scrimmage.
We didnt have a choice. Anyways, the only other FA we're going to throw that type of cash at is Thomas.
Are you certain about that? Do you know what other teams were offering Clements? Dude's a good player and I'm positive he'd fetch a pretty penny from any team that was interested in him. I just can't see any other team making an offer so big that the 9ers had to outbid with his current contract.
Basically, I think San Fran just did with Clements, the same thing that the Rangers did with A-Rod a few years back. They outbid themselves. Only difference is that Nate Clements has never been, nor do I think he will ever be included in any discussion about the top 2 or 3 players in the NFL. At least in A-Rod's case he was clearly among the very best in the league.
Look at Thomas right now. The Patsies arent letting him out of their building w/o a contract. Thing is, they dont need to pay as much because of a legit chance at a championship. Dork farged up our reputation so guys dont want to come here like they did in the past. So, ya, we overpaid but we really need the talent. Any talent :(
I guess the point I'm getting at is that the Niners could have overpaid for Clements, but at a lesser amount and still gotten him locked up. I have no problem with the concept of overpaying a player if that's what it takes to get that player signed and if you know that said player is going to make a major contribution to the team.
Take Stallworth for example. Not the greatest reciever in the league. Probably not even top 10. But knowing what the Eagles offense can do with him and Brown on the field makes me want the Eagles to overpay for him (within reason) if that's what it takes to keep him. And I know they can overpay for him and still not make him the highest paid reciever in NFL history at the same time.
sheesh talk about overpaying. we gave lewis $10 mill guaranteed over 6 years :sly
Nothing is gauranteed in the NFL except that Eagles LB's suck, Andy Reid is fat and Joe Banner is cheap.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 02, 2007, 11:09:09 PM
Nothing is gauranteed in the NFL except that Eagles LB's suck, Andy Reid is fat and Joe Banner is cheap.
Cheap?! What are you talking about, we re-signed Mikell and Juqua Thomas.
he'll start at SS, and they're planning to use him in dime coverage. ha!
look at easy spreading the spadaro propaganda
everyone over pays except the eagles....holla!!
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That depends.....
Ever since you found out he was signed, have you spent your time constructing a long winded letter addressed to 49ers ownership expressing your love for them and the 49ers organization and how you are confident that they will bring a championship back to San Fran despite foolish (over)spending? Have you created a gigantic sig with an image of Nate Clements in a 9ers uniform and put lightning bolts in the background along with some corny "catch phrase" like "Striking Fear in the Hearts of Quarterbacks." Have you masturbated to a picture of Mike Nolan?
If you answered no to all of the above then you do not, infact, feel like a taterskins fan.
[/quote]
Why do taterskins fans masturbate to pictures of Mike Nolan. It's not suprising, just curious.
WOW...youre drunker than me...congrats
I was a big Mike Lewis fan. His time was obviously up here but let's be real...if he "only" got $10M guaranteed over 6yrs then he should still be wearing green. Yes he was a liability in coverage but unless they hit on a stud safety or Sean Considine shows improvement who knows what'll happen there. Maybe Quintin Mikell will show something if need be.
I was a big Mike Lewis fan. His time was obviously up here but let's be real...if he "only" got $10M guaranteed over 6yrs then he should still be wearing green. Yes he was a liability in coverage but unless they hit on a stud safety or Sean Considine shows improvement who knows what'll happen there.
X infinity
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 03, 2007, 01:40:46 AM
I was a big Mike Lewis fan. His time was obviously up here but let's be real...if he "only" got $10M guaranteed over 6yrs then he should still be wearing green. Yes he was a liability in coverage but unless they hit on a stud safety or Sean Considine shows improvement who knows what'll happen there. Maybe Quintin Mikell will show something if need be.
How dare you doubt Sean Considine. He is going to put on a lot of muscle in the offseason and is working out and battling like crazy to get better ball skills.
He very well could. I know I was one who thought that putting him in there at the time was the right move simply because Lewis was struggling so bad. But they each have their flaws and Considine's is that he gets trucked in run support while Lewis looks like a fool in coverage. Maybe Considine does show up this year. Afterall this was essentially his rookie season. But whatever, this team needs to straighten a few areas up and of course they are choosing not to do it.
i wouldnt mind having travis henry.
Henry is a bit of a basketcase. Not happening.
Ike I assume can still play a little. So, why not. They signed Hugh Douglas when he had nothing left, why not Ike.
Ridiculous money for some of these players, but come on, the Eagles need to do something. Make an effort at least.
Michael Lewis farging sucked ass and the Niners gave him ten million.
Bah!
Pointing and laughing...
More on Chris Brown from Yahoo:
QuoteChris Brown: The former Tennessee Titans running back has as many as three visits setup for next week, according to a well-placed source. Teams that have shown interest in possibly signing the former 1,000-yard rusher include the New York Jets, Oakland Raiders, Philadelphia Eagles, Houston Texans, Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins.
Also:
QuoteWalt Harris: The San Francisco 49ers extended the contract of the Pro Bowl cornerback by two years through 2009. Terms of the deal were not available. Harris, an 11-year veteran, had a career-high eight interceptions last season. Harris, a first-round pick by Chicago in 1996, has played for four teams.
Niners will be contenders next season. More great talent evaluation by the Skins.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 03, 2007, 09:20:50 AM
Michael Lewis farging sucked ass and the Niners gave him ten million.
Bah!
Pointing and laughing...
dude, i want to but i'll keep my mouth shut instead. this is your house, respect
Supposedly the 49ers are looking for as many as 7 starters on defense out of just free agency...
Another Patriots signing: Kyle Brady, 2 yrs
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 03, 2007, 09:47:04 AM
More on Chris Brown from Yahoo:
Quote
Niners will be contenders next season. More great talent evaluation by the Skins.
Too early to tell. We have a virgin OC. If Turner stayed, I'd agree.
wtf, my post is being gaffled
Boston Herald:
QuoteLinebacker Tully Banta-Cain visited with the Rams yesterday and may be a goner.
"They need a pass-rusher, that's no secret," said agent James Sims. "And (coach Jim) Haslett's a hell of a defensive mind. He'd really be able to utilize Tully's versatility to play in 4-3 and the 3-4. Plus, it's a team that will contend."
Banta-Cain has also heard from the Steelers, Ravens, 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins, Browns, Jets and Giants.
Trenton Times:
QuoteWynn Silberman, the agent for Titans unrestricted free agent running back Chris Brown, reportedly has the Eagles on a short list of teams his client plans to visit.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2007, 11:20:08 AM
Supposedly the 49ers are looking for as many as 7 starters on defense out of just free agency...
Another Patriots signing: Kyle Brady, 2 yrs
link?
Were close to signing that tub of shtein nose tackle from the Ravens. Havent heard anyone else.
QuoteAccording to John Clayton of ESPN, the 49ers will sign Ravens nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin to a 3 year contract worth $6 million that includes a $3 million signing bonus.
Clayton also states that the team will go after Dolphins linebacker Donnie Spragan.
good thing i'm used to the eagles being cheap bastiches in free agency or i might actually be upset with their lack of activity.
that samoan cat is a nice player but i cant decide if he was a product of belicheks system or not
Quote from: hunt on March 03, 2007, 11:45:04 AM
good thing i'm used to the eagles being cheap bastiches in free agency or i might actually be upset with their lack of activity.
It's taken a while for them to beat all optimism out of me but they finally did it. The offseason is exactly that when it comes to this front office. Off.
guess who else doesnt care about you
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 03, 2007, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: hunt on March 03, 2007, 11:45:04 AM
good thing i'm used to the eagles being cheap bastiches in free agency or i might actually be upset with their lack of activity.
It's taken a while for them to beat all optimism out of me but they finally did it. The offseason is exactly that when it comes to this front office. Off.
its a conspiracy. Reid, McNabb and the FO sticking together to keep their jobs. but what do i know :(
Tampa Bay signed Patrick Chukwurah away from Denver and they apparently have a 1PM press conference scheduled, possibly for Garcia....
Quote from Lewis:
Quote"A lot of things that went on in Philadelphia weren't football-related. That is the nature of the business, but I have something to prove. I want to get back to where my name needs to be as one of the top safeties in the league, as I feel I am."
From AdamJT13, who knows his stuff when it comes to the salary cap and compensation picks:
QuoteHere's the list of 2007 salary cap adjustments for all 32 teams. These are the net results of all credits and charges left over from 2006, mostly from incentives that either had been charged against the cap but were not earned or had not been charged against the cap but were earned. Some of these numbers could be adjusted later in the offseason.
A positive number means the team's cap limit was raised (resulting in more cap room). A negative number means the team's cap limit was lowered (resulting in less cap room). Note -- This is NOT the available cap room for each team. It is the adjustment of their cap limit, either raising it or lowering it from $109 million. So, for example, Buffalo's cap adjustment is $3 million, so the Bills' limit is $112 million. Chicago's cap adjustment is minus-$535,529, so the Bears' limit is $108,464,471.
CAP LIMIT ADJUSTED HIGHER (more cap room)
Minnesota $9,338,540
Kansas City $8,559,275
Jacksonville $8,505,098
New Orleans $6,557,782
Cleveland $6,451,094
Carolina $4,161,388
New England $3,871,580
Tampa Bay $3,735,576
San Francisco $3,651,724
Houston $3,346,071
Seattle $3,323,500
Buffalo $3,000,000
Philadelphia $2,964,935
Dallas $2,717,626
Indianapolis $2,183,326
Detroit $2,109,229
Baltimore $1,982,839
Denver $1,175,718
N.Y.Giants $581,366
Washington $522,354
Green Bay $519,110
Atlanta $228,518
Oakland $117,349
NO ADJUSTMENT
Arizona $0
Cincinnati $0
CAP LIMIT ADJUSTED LOWER (less cap room)
Chicago -$535,529
St. Louis -$795,869
San Diego -$2,594,685
Miami -$2,609,428
Pittsburgh -$2,678,769
N.Y. Jets -$3,166,401
Tennessee -$3,593,294
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2007, 11:58:53 AM
Tampa Bay signed Patrick Chukwurah away from Denver and they apparently have a 1PM press conference scheduled, possibly for Garcia....
Schefters reporting it as a done deal. Would like to see the numbers.
QuoteBuccaneers | Team reaches agreement with Garcia
Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:39:43 -0800
Updating a previous item, ESPNews reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have reached an agreement with free agent QB Jeff Garcia (Eagles).
Chargers re-signed Kris Dielman to a 6-yr deal
Rumored $40M overall, $18M guaranteed, $24M in first 3 years
Drew Bennett just signed a 6-yr deal with the Rams
Rumored $10M SB, $5M/yr
The Patriots signed Dolphins WR Wes Welker to an offer sheet
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2007, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from Lewis:
Quote"A lot of things that went on in Philadelphia weren't football-related. That is the nature of the business, but I have something to prove. I want to get back to where my name needs to be as one of the top safeties in the league, as I feel I am."
obviously, Lewis knows he didn't play up to his earlier years in Philly. a change should do him good.
Another Patriots signing: Sammy Morris
4 yrs, $7M, $5M in the first 2 years of the deal
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 03, 2007, 02:22:13 PM
Drew Bennett just signed a 6-yr deal with the Rams
Good signing for the Rams. With Bruce likely in his final year, this keeps the quarterback happy.
I agree that it is a good signing. He isn't a #1, but is a pretty damn good #2. The Rams still need a defense though.
From Adam Caplan's blog (http://story.scout.com/a.z%2067&p=2&c=623046)
QuoteDillon Interest Heating Up
A league source told scout.com that free agent RB Corey Dillon has received interest from the Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets, and Philadelphia Eagles so far.
Eagles Looking for a Back?
vWith veteran RB Correll Buckhalter remaining unsigned, the Philadelphia Eagles are clearly in the market for a free agent back.
Philadelphia has shown interest in free agent RBs Sammy Morris and Corey Dillon
oh man i would love to get cory dillon. ain't happening though...
Ahman Green and Ashley Lelie are in Houston and will be at the Rockets game tonight. The Texans also re-signed Kalu for another year...
Marcel Shipp re-signed with Arizona...3-yr deal
The Vikings signed Shockey's backup Visanthe Shiancoe to a 5-yr deal, $18.5M, $7M guaranteed, $8.2M in 2007....even though he's never had more than 100 yards TOTAL in a season... :-D
Bucs DE Dewayne White rejoins Marinelli in Detroit.....5 years, $29M
Mentioned in the Stallworth thread, Lelie signed with San Francisco....2 yrs, $4.3M, $2M SB
Henry officially released.
Dennis Northcutt to Jacksonville......5 yrs, $17M, $4.5M SB
I suppose it's already been mentioned somewhere around here that Roderick Hood visited Cleveland today?
Pad
yep, and he'll be in Arizona tomorrow
Tully Banta-Cain signed with the Rams. FIRE BANNER!
Hood is supposedly coming to visit us, as well.
Quote from: King Cole on March 03, 2007, 07:14:36 PM
Henry officially released.
i would love to get henry over dillon.
getting henry would be outstanding...i know hes had some injury problems but is there a more under appreciated player in the league...hes still young all he does is produce when he plays yet hes about to be on his thrid team
in '01 Henry was busted for farging around with a minor and in '05 he was suspended 4 games for substance abuse violation.
other than his own kids, Reid doesn't cotton to that kind of thing
No shot with Henry. He's had some attitude problems in the past. Chris Brown would actually complement Westbrook better.
Both both would cost money, so unless they fondle Banner's balls and accept the veteran minimum, no shot.
We have no shot with Henry because some team like the Broncos, Giants, or Texans will pay him to be their starter. Not because of character issues.
Stinchcomb resigns with Saints, 2 years.
Smoot back to the 'Skins, 5 years.
Some wacky ass signings going on. Although Lelie going to SF was good. And WRs aren't getting huge money which is good for the Birds as far as Stallworth goes.
I'll take Henry, Brown or Dillon. Although Corey Dillon really looked like he lost a step this year he's still a good short yardage guy.
Hood will visit Cardinals today per KFFL:
QuoteCardinals | R. Hood expected to visit Sunday
Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:08:17 -0800
Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports free agent CB Roderick Hood (Eagles) is expected to visit the Arizona Cardinals Sunday, March 4.
Link (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16830995.htm)
QuoteRunning back Correll Buckhalter is expected to visit with the Denver Broncos, and cornerback Rod Hood is expected to meet with the Cleveland Browns.
from the inky....
Ike's return?
On Friday, Atlanta waived former Eagles linebacker Ike Reese, who had two years remaining on the four-year contract he signed with the Falcons after the Eagles' Super Bowl appearance. A nine-year NFL veteran, Reese, 33, said in January that he and his wife were house-hunting in South Jersey because he wanted to retire in the Philadelphia area.
While retirement might come sooner than Reese expected - he said during the Eagles-Giants playoff game at Lincoln Financial Field that he wanted to play out his contract with the Falcons - Reese likely won't be far from football when he does retire. He could follow Hugh Douglas' path into the media or he could coach, possibly on the NFL level
I'd love to see Ike back in Eagle green, regardless, he'll be back in Philly in some compacity....
Dallas close to signing Leonard Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2787446)
He's a grater, I was hoping he'd stay out of the East. Speculation is he'll sign a deal larger than Dockery or Steinbachs.
better than the skins getting him tho
ike has a future on wip no doubt...whenever he guest hosts on the cuzs show hes excellent...way better than hugh
theres absolutely no reason not to sign ike to a one year deal with an option for two or soemthing along those lines
Agreed. There is no reason Ike Reese should not be an Eagle in 2007. None. Hell, let him play out his year or two and then put his ass in there as the STs coach. That dude Rory is going to suck. Has anyone named Rory every accomplished anything?
Leonard Davis scares no one. Dude should be the best OL in the NFL but he blows. He's lazy and the Cards OL stunk with him in there.
From the 'remember this guy' department:
QuoteJets | Team works out Wadsworth
Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:11:55 -0800
Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports the New York Jets reportedly worked out free agent DE Andre Wadsworth (Cardinals).
wow has he even played this decade....whos next eric swann
Eagles almost signed him two or three years ago.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2007, 11:23:02 AM
Has anyone named Rory every accomplished anything?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory)
Take that, Niagra.
pretty sure you proved his point
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 04:37:31 PM
pretty sure you proved his point
Ahem
Colonel Rory (Roger) O'Moore (http://colonel%20rory%20(roger)%20o'moore)
The Texans just signed Ahman Green
So, with Dominick Davis and Ahman Green, I guess we can bet they aren't going to be looking for RB in the draft?
Just remembered Duckett is still out there.....
Duckett > Buck coming back?
I figure if Buck signs somewhere, they have to get another back. No way the depth chart looks like Westy > Moats > Mahe......right?
They could draft a guy, but I think they may go with a second tier RB in free agency, and I would suppose a guy like Duckett would be in that list.
Them getting Duckett on the cheap would make me laugh considerably, considering the story that goes around here in D.C is that Gibbs and Co. snatched him up because they didn't want him to go to Philly....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 04, 2007, 06:22:55 PM
The Texans just signed Ahman Green
4 years $22 million ($6.5 guarantee)
Not a bad deal considering he's 30. Wanted the Eagles to nab him, still hoping Dillon's a possibility.
QuoteSeahawks | Parry not tendered
Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:51:54 -0800
Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Seattle Seahawks did not extend a restricted tender to FB Josh Parry. He becomes an unrestricted free agent.
Little interest in Buckhalter and Stallworth (http://browns.scout.com/2/623755.html)
Mostly more of the same.....
Quote
Market Quiet For Buckhalter
Free agent RB Correll Buckhalter could visit the Denver Broncos soon but has yet to set up a visit. Buckhalter is seen as a decent backup for an established starter.
The oft-injured back is coming off his first season in which he played in all 16 games. Buckhalter missed the 2004 and 2005 seasons due to injury.
Quote
Stallworth Not Attracting Attention?
As scout.com pointed out earlier this week, league sources indicated that free agent WR Donte' Stallworth might not get signed in the early part of free agency because there's a belief that he wants too much money in signing bonus dollars ($10-$12 million). Sources believe the bonus money will come in much lower ($6-$8 million on a multi-year deal) based on his injury history but as the story goes, it only takes one team to over pay.
As noted previously, Stallworth, when healthy last season, was very productive but hamstring problems limited him to 12 games.
But because there teams with serious wide receiver issues (San Francisco 49ers, Minnesota Vikings, and Tennessee Titans), the market for the six-year veteran could start to heat up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 11:32:09 AM
wow has he even played this decade....whos next eric swann
:-D :-D
Damn, I thought Wadsworth was out of footballl already.
San Fran will probably look through the draft
Titans will be apprhensive to pay after their previous cap problems and fact that Vince Young is insane
Vikings are run by morons who cannot evaluate talent
optimism!!
Quote from: MDS on March 04, 2007, 07:23:10 PM
San Fran will probably look through the draft
will SF have any money left to sign their rookies?
Damn, I thought Wadsworth was out of footballl already
he was
will SF have any money left to sign their rookies
they still have a decent amount of money...more than most teams
Was Wadsworth from FSU?
yep
like i mentioned before i i know he was drafted in the 90's but i dont think hes played even a down of football this decade...someone correct me if im worng...and if i am its at least been five years since hes played football...hard to believe hed be brought in for a tryout...even when he played he sucked
was he not taken the same year or just before they drafted Simeone Rice? I remember when everyone thought the cards were going to have the greatest dline ever.
sure.
He was 3rd overall in 1998 behind Manning and Leaf
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 04, 2007, 08:05:01 PM
He was 3rd overall in 1998 behind Manning and Leaf
ouch. well, one out of three ain't bad.
Quote from: Don Ho on March 05, 2007, 02:12:48 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 04, 2007, 08:05:01 PM
He was 3rd overall in 1998 behind Manning and Leaf
ouch. well, one out of three ain't bad.
only if your name is Manning
Truck,
Did farging Dan Snyder buy the niners or what? you guys are signing everyone.
Quote from: Don Ho on March 05, 2007, 02:57:44 AM
Truck,
Did farging Dan Snyder buy the niners or what? you guys are signing everyone.
Dork is Nolan's bitch. Period. That's how it went down from the first interview. He straight up set these conditions right away and was more than ready to walk if he didnt have them. He's got full control, final veto power over all personnel decisions and a truckload of blank checks. He's also rebuilt the front office by himself. Not to mention taking over the defense as DC midway thru last season.
He's worked for Snyder and knows what not to do. His philosophy from day 1 is to build thru the draft and supplement via free agency. The previous FO farged us with Snyderesque contracts that we had to dump to finally, after the last 2 years, become players in the FA market.
Sure the contracts sound ridiculous at face value but theyre well constructed in a way that we wont take signifigant caps hits if your not holding your weight. For example, Antonio Bryant was given a big contract last year but we released him recently with a meager 800k hit. Clements got the big money w/ 22 mill bonus/80 mil contract but 36 mill of that is in his last 2 years. Its also an 8 year contract. But we are still paying like 7-8 mill a year for him.
for all intensive purposes there isnt a salary cap in the nfl
its like rich people paying taxes
if they dont want to do it they really dont have too
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 05, 2007, 08:33:30 AM
for all intensiveintents and purposes there isnt a salary cap in the nfl
This is your grammar lesson for the day.
not gonna work...trust me
link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17392462)
4 out of 10 have already signed.
but he's on the shelf too often, having never gotten through a season without injuries problems sidelining him.
does that count 04 and 05 where stallworth played in 32 of 32 games?
Briggs is pissed about the franchise tag and wants out of Chicago
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788148)
I love all these clowns getting pissed off about teams using the franchise tags.
:-D
Your union agreed to them so shut the hell up and deal with them like men. Fairies.
The league needs to take a long hard look at this trend and take corrective actions against it. The Franchise Tag was put in place to help teams be able to retain their best players but it seems like a complete waste if players can just not show up to work.
It seems like any time a team uses the tag, it just pisses the player off and they hold out. Then the team either trades him or just removes the tag, ala Corey Simon. If players are going to be allowed to hold out from it, then why even have it in the first place?
I think a simple compromise would be to make the team commit a certain percentage of the year's salary UPFRONT, so if they choose to remove the tag, they lose that "signing bonus". In turn, the player would have to return the bonus if he holds out.
That said, I agree it's ridiculous that both sides have agreed to the franchise tag clause in the CBA as is, because it's obvious that it simply doesn't work.
The bottom line is the players union agreed to this concession when they negotiated the last CBA, so any pissing, moaning or acrimony on their parts should be directed at Gene Upshaw and the NFLPA, not the teams.
For Briggs to be irate at the Bears is just ridiculous on his part.
I know these jocks are typically as intelligent as blocks of granite, but not even they can be stupid enough to blame someone else for contract concessions they, themselves agree to.
Well, they agreed to them because they knew that they could blow them off just like this, and suffer no consequences.
Remember kids - an NFL contract is meaningless for both parties.
William James is apparently drawing interest from several teams, per kffl's wire.
Losing him and Hood = ignorant.
They have to bring James back.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 05, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Losing him and Hood = ignorant.
They have to bring James back.
Unless they're targeting a CB in the first round. If that's the case then Hood & James are both expendable.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 05, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Losing him and Hood = ignorant.
They have to bring James back.
Unless they're targeting a CB in the first round. If that's the case then Hood & James are both expendable.
Good point. #26 is a good place in the draft to get a sure thing.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 05, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Losing him and Hood = ignorant.
They have to bring James back.
Unless they're targeting a CB in the first round. If that's the case then Hood & James are both expendable.
while James has the size, he is coming back from what was almost a career-ending injury (that may scare off some teams...maybe the Eagles too). personally, I'd rather have Hood back, but he would be pissed to be a #3 CB again.
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
Yes!
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 05, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Losing him and Hood = ignorant.
They have to bring James back.
Unless they're targeting a CB in the first round. If that's the case then Hood & James are both expendable.
Good point. #26 is a good place in the draft to get a sure thing.
You mean like Lito Sheppard?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
If you aren't in the least bit excited about the Eagles signing Ken Hamlin you're retarded.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
Actually I can, if we were to retain Stallworth and pick up Ken Hamlin, that would be lovely for this idiotic FO.
Also, on Comcast this morning they said that Rod Hood's agent said things are moving slowly and not to completely rule out a return to the Eagles.
I'm not saying none of those names are at all exciting, but the fact that it's all the Eagles might even be considering is downright scary, and here's why:
1. No real improvement at LB. June to WIL and Gaither to MLB? Keep Dhani? Barf.
2. No cornerback?
3. Buck the only option at RB?
4. We know Stallworth's gone.
5. Getting Robaire Smith basically signals that they are very concerned about Bunkley ever being any good.
Hamlin's good. Graham's good. But I highly doubt the Eagles will outbid anyone for their services.
Travis Henry to Denver....5-yr deal
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 03:26:50 PM
Travis Henry to Denver....5-yr deal
Great pickup for them. All the guy does is crank out yards.
Hamlin and Robaire Smith would be welcome pickups. How pathetic is it that we're talking about a DT pickup improving the team? Ugh.
PFT is reporting that Randy McMichael will be released within the next two days.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
I actually am excited about every namd on there besides Buck.
QuoteWhy do you get so mad? Have the Eagles sucked or something? Do they screw up everything? Just because it hasn't worked enough to win a Super Bowl doesn't mean you stop trying. The Eagles are trying. You pick out one name and think you can throw money at a problem and it works. History says that isn't the case at all. The LBs have to be better. The Eagles have used a lot of high draft picks on LBs. Briggs was a third-round pick and you want to pay him $20 million now!
Ummm...
Is there anyone here who wouldn't pay Lance Briggs a contract worth 20 million dollars to sign with the Eagles?
Furthermore, is there anyone here who wouldn't say he's a better linebacker than anyone the Eagles have on the roster at the moment?
I sincerely hope this isn't indicative of the Eagles management's assessment of the LB corps. Sweet Jesus...
:paranoid
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 03:58:41 PM
PFT is reporting that Randy McMichael will be released within the next two days.
So we should expect him to be arrested in 3 days for wife beating.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2007, 04:23:21 PM
QuoteWhy do you get so mad? Have the Eagles sucked or something? Do they screw up everything? Just because it hasn't worked enough to win a Super Bowl doesn't mean you stop trying. The Eagles are trying. You pick out one name and think you can throw money at a problem and it works. History says that isn't the case at all. The LBs have to be better. The Eagles have used a lot of high draft picks on LBs. Briggs was a third-round pick and you want to pay him $20 million now!
Ummm...
Is there anyone here who wouldn't pay Lance Briggs a contract worth 20 million dollars to sign with the Eagles?
Furthermore, is there anyone here who wouldn't say he's a better linebacker than anyone the Eagles have on the roster at the moment?
I sincerely hope this isn't indicative of the Eagles management's assessment of the LB corps. Sweet Jesus...
:paranoid
The post that your responding to actually looks like one of your's. Is this Good Romey/Bad Romey routine? :-D
if you think mike lewis was bad in pass coverage wait till ken hamlin signs here
yet ken hamlin is "exciting"
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 05, 2007, 04:44:46 PM
if you think mike lewis was bad in pass coverage wait till ken hamlin signs here
where are you getting that info from?
anybody who gets their head cracked open in Seattle probably shouldn't come to Philadelphia
Hamlin can't fight either.
where are you getting that info from?
hes been in the league for like five years
trust me id take hamlin and be happy but hes not a good cover man at all hes pretty much a lewis clone
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 05, 2007, 04:49:42 PM
trust me id take hamlin and be happy but hes not a good cover man at all hes pretty much a lewis clone
First of all, why would anyone trust you? Just about every view of yours is argued.
Second of all....he isn't great in coverage but he's not abysmal at best like Lewis. Their cover skills aren't really close. At all.
Hamlin and Lewis are similar players but Hamlin isn't as big a liability in coverage. If you think JJ hung Lewis out to dry, Rhodes and Marshall were even worse with their DBs.
Speculation is pointless, Considine's your opening day SS.
-- Instead of the offer sheet, the Patriots traded 2nd and 7th-rd picks to Miami for Welker's rights so they can deal with him directly.
-- Kevin Curtis failed to get a deal from the Lions, so he fired Tom Condon.
Breaking news on ESPN: Thomas Jones was traded to the Jets
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 06:44:40 PM
Breaking news on ESPN: Thomas Jones was traded to the Jets
That's going to piss off Giants fans.
Even better: the Jets got Jones and the Bears' 2nd-round pick in exchange for the taterskins' 2nd-round pick they got for Rocky McIntosh... :-D
Wow, that's a huge pickup for the Jets.
The Bears just got assraped
So basically the Bears moved up 25 spots in the 2nd round and gave up Jones to do it....
It also presumably takes the Jets out of the running for Dillon, so it's us or Baltimore....
Good luck in Baltimore Corey.
Kevin Carter to the Buccaneers....4 yrs, $25M
Josh Parry re-signed with Seattle
LaMont Jordan reduced his roster bonus and will stay with the Raiders
As expected, Dillon's first choice is the Ravens
The Patriots have contacted Chris Brown
I guess the Eagles don't give a shtein about a big back.
Quote from: King Cole on March 05, 2007, 07:10:34 PM
I guess the Eagles don't give a shtein about a big back.
Welcome to four years ago.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 05, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
It seems like any time a team uses the tag, it just pisses the player off and they hold out. Then the team either trades him or just removes the tag, ala Corey Simon.
That's going too far. The clear majority of franchise taggings work the way they are supposed to, with the player saying he's disappointed but showing up to work without any further bitching nonetheless. No question there have been a large number of players on which it has failed though, especially Philadelphia Eagles players.
Brad Johnson is Romo's new backup. They also re-signed Gazoo for 2 more years.... :-D
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 07:07:52 PM
Kevin Carter to the Buccaneers....4 yrs, $25M
Hasn't he been a massive bust since 1999 or some shtein?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 05, 2007, 07:07:52 PM
Kevin Carter to the Buccaneers....4 yrs, $25M
Hasn't he been a massive bust since 1999 or some shtein?
watch mcdougle get even a bigger deal when we cut him.
Second of all....he isn't great in coverage but he's not abysmal at best like Lewis. Their cover skills aren't really close. At all.
untruth
but keep rewinding that joe horn highlite and believing in the eagles anti lewis hype...im sure they are glad youre on their side
hamlin is basically the same player as lewis...they are both big strong safties who bring it and have coverage skills that are not their strong suit...i personally wpuld take either you could do a lot worse in this league...but the bottom line is they are essentially the same player...
how would you know? you only watch Eagles games.
which means i watch one more team than you do
if you watch every game, that means you watch four or five more than me, none of which include a Seahawk....you have no idea what you're talking about re: Hamlin
again you run errands during eagle games...stick to the general board
living in NY, where I don't have the luxury of every game being on tv, I might as well "run errands" when I can't see the game
you don't know shtein about Hamlin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=2784159
SS Ken Hamlin
• Scouting report Seahawks Overcame serious head injury sustained in 2005 to reclaim his starting spot last season and played well, especially versus the run. A big hitter with limited range and is always going to be most effective playing close to the line.
Possible landing spot: Houston, Carolina.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www2.sportsnet.ca/football/nfl/players/Ken_Hamlin/
Scouting Report
Assets: An excellent run defender. A lights-out hitter who also makes plays in pursuit. Tall and well built. Has good hands and ball skills. A decent zone defender who gets a break on the ball. Punishes receivers over the middle.
Flaws Overaggressive. Can be faked out of plays and will get out of position. Not a top athlete who will turn and run with wide receivers. Has character issues and can be taken out of the game mentally.
so you can google. congrats white boy
sure i can if i have to...especially to make you look like a fool
now like i said run along to the rock bands thread
QuoteFlaws Overaggressive. Can be faked out of plays and will get out of position. Not a top athlete who will turn and run with wide receivers. Has character issues and can be taken out of the game mentally.
Lewis might have a lot of problems on the field but off the field I believe his character is pretty stellar.
Therefore, if that blurb is correct, if all other things are equal then Lewis > Hamlin by default.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
Good blocking TE; probably better than Schobel. No, is better than Schobel.
Cato June is small. I'm tired of tiny LBs.
Buck - meh. I would prefer Chris Brown or Corey Dillon.
Hamlin - sign him. That would be nice
Robaire Smith is a guy who I wanted the Eagles to sign before he left Tennessee for Houston and then went back to Tennessee. I wouldn't look at it like they are scared about Bunkley, I would look at it like they are more worried about Walker, Rayburn and those guys who have actually proven that they cannot stop the run.
Anyone else thinking that the Bears traded up in the second to grab Stanton?
31 and 37 could get them Greg Olsen and Poz
wow...Patrick Kerney to the Seahawks.....6 yrs, $39.5M, $19.5M guaranteed :-D
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6532696
Seattle doesn't seem to have a problem breaking the bank on defense, especially with guys with injury concerns. First Julian Petersen last year and now Kerney.
Still, that's a ton of money for Kerney. Good for him.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 05, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Spadaro's article (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65754) specifically mentions the following people:
Daniel Graham, TE
Cato June, LB
Donte' Stallworth, WR
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Ken Hamlin, S
Robaire Smith, DT
Can you feel the excitement?
If the Eagles were to walk away with these guys, I'd be a very happy little Eagles fan.
- We all know the deal with Donte.
- Hamlin has the tools to get it done with usrus stopper by trade, but not clueless in coverage... and he will make sure that Considine remains the ST player he was meant to be.
- Like Phreak, I wanted Smith back when he signed with the Texans. He's a run stopper who will push either Walker or Rayburn off the bottom of the depth chart, helping to raise the overall quality at the position.
I know I'm just dreamin' here, but still....
Another day. Another nothing. Another drink of depression.
Apparently, Schefter mentioned that the Eagles are interested in the great white hope of Kevin Curtis, who coincidentally wants to be paid like Drew Bennett. He's fired his agent and is visiting the Giants today. Looks like there's a better chance of the Eagles re-signing Stallworth than getting Curtis. Of course, "better" only means about 5% instead of 2%.
Also, Corey Dillon is theoretically down to the Ravens and the Eagles, and there's word the Ravens would prefer to bring back Jamal Lewis. We'll see.
Rod Hood and William James are as good as gone. Dhani's still on the team. Currently, Sean Considine is slated to start at safety and Joselio Hanson will be the nickel back. L.J.'s in the last year of his contract, and either Hank Baskett or Greg Lewis is penciled to start across from Reggie Brown. Brian Westbrook is the only tailback on the team, which doesn't select until #26 and doesn't have a 4th round pick this year.
They can't possibly stand pat much longer. Can they? ?? ? :boo :boom
Dave's response when asked *when* the Eagles would get involved in free agency:
QuoteBefore the draft ... and maybe after the draft. This is going to be a crazy, crazy, crazy off-season.
An amusing comment left in the same thread:
Quote2007 Off-season - extended A.J. Feeley, re-signed Quintin Mikell and Juqua Thomas
2005 Off-season - didn't cut T.O. before the season began. Picked up Mike McMahon.
So far the 2007 off-season is winning.
Comcast SportsRise: The Eagles have made an offer to Donte Stallworth and Correll Buckhalter. Also made an offer to Rod Hood towards the end of the season that would have made him one of the highest nickle CB's in the league, but he's looking for starters money. If another team isn't willing to give him that, we may just see him back here next year.
Hopefully Stallworth doesn't get any great and/or multi-year deals out of the teams he's supposed to be visiting. I would think he'd take a multi-year deal with the Eagles over a 1 year deal somewhere else (besides maybe the Pats)....right?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 06:36:00 AM
Brian Westbrook is the only tailback on the team...
I hate loving this team.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 06, 2007, 07:09:24 AM
I hate loving this team.
Tell me about it. If Eagles were a woman, I'd have dumped them a long time ago.
I hate loving this team.
out of all FF posted you highlite that westbrook is the only tailback on the team?
what about these?
1. Sean Considine is slated to start at safety
2. Joselio Hanson will be the nickel back.
3. Hank Baskett or Greg Lewis is penciled to start across from Reggie Brown
4. Dhani's still on the team
I'm not a huge fan of any of that either, but my personal crusade against this team over-working the fragile wittle Westbrook leads me to highlight the fact that he is the only viable tailback on the team.
BTW, is Ryan Moats still alive?
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ALL IS WELL!
i am surprisingly calm, as i knew that this would happen, again.
daily news is reporting that the nfl players association is investigating the source of the leak as whoever leaked this info about donte is in breach of the nfls confidentiality agreement...
rumors are that the eagles (banner) leaked the info to A. bring dontes value down and/or B. give the team a built in excuse for when donte signs with another team
he'd never do anything like that.
fire banner
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 08:25:31 AM
daily news is reporting that the nfl players association is investigating the source of the leak as whoever leaked this info about donte is in breach of the nfls confidentiality agreement...
rumors are that the eagles (banner) leaked the info to A. bring dontes value down and/or B. give the team a built in excuse for when donte signs with another team
no way a
gold standard team would do this kinda thing. :P
joey porter is gonna sign with the dolphins today which would take them out of the stallworth sweepstakes
also brookover is on wip saying that the stallworth leak did NOT come from the eagles
that ruined Angelo's morning, i caught 15 seconds of him this morning and he was ranting on that
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 08:25:31 AM
daily news is reporting that the nfl players association is investigating the source of the leak as whoever leaked this info about donte is in breach of the nfls confidentiality agreement...
rumors are that the eagles (banner) leaked the info to A. bring dontes value down and/or B. give the team a built in excuse for when donte signs with another team
I heard a rumor that IGY started the rumor about Banner.
that ruined Angelo's morning, i caught 15 seconds of him this morning and he was ranting on that
yeah he was ridiculous on that...he interviewed jaworski and jaworski was like i dont know if they leaked it (angelo: they leaked it jaws) but if they did (angelo: they did) it defintiely cost hiom money (angelo: jaws THEY LEAKED IT)
it was outrageous
i literally think angelo is so anti eagle for no other reason than howard is so pro eagle and they despise each other....because if you listen to both shows all they do it try to do it counter the others take
Quote from: rjs246 on March 06, 2007, 08:06:02 AM
BTW, is Ryan Moats still alive?
Oops. Understandably, I completely forgot about him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 09:14:29 AM
it was outrageous
i literally think angelo is so anti eagle for no other reason than howard is so pro eagle and they despise each other....because if you listen to both shows all they do it try to do it counter the others take
Are you actually starting to realize that WIP is only for entertainment and absolutely not for actual sports news or relevant/informed opinions?
I heard a rumor that IGY started the rumor about Banner
well the leak came from one of three places
1. the eagles
2. stallworth/rosenhaus
3. the nfl office
i think i know who did it
Are you actually starting to realize that WIP is only for entertainment and absolutely not for actual sports news or relevant/informed opinions
absolutely not...its has just as valid sports opnions as this board does and breaks/gives far better sports news
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 09:21:18 AM
well the leak came from one of three places
1. the eagles
2. stallworth/rosenhaus
3. the nfl office
Wrong. Any team interested in signing him has access to the information also.
no out of town team is gonna call bob brookover out of the blue and drop a dime on stallworth...they would do it thru their own channels...and for the record brookover said he didnt get it from any team sources....of course brookover is only gonna say where it didnt come from not where it did
Brian Simmons to the Saints...3 yr deal
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 09:14:29 AM
i literally think angelo is so anti eagle for no other reason than howard is so pro eagle and they despise each other....because if you listen to both shows all they do it try to do it counter the others take
*ding* If you remember the Buddy Years, the roles were completely reversed: Angelo was pure homer/pro Buddy, where Eskin was Anti-Buddy and thought the Eagles sucked.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 09:14:29 AM
i literally think angelo is so anti eagle for no other reason than howard is so pro eagle and they despise each other....because if you listen to both shows all they do it try to do it counter the others take
...and because he is a Giants fan from Long Island. But hey, let's not let reality get in the way.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 06:43:11 AM
Dave's response when asked *when* the Eagles would get involved in free agency:
QuoteBefore the draft ... and maybe after the draft. This is going to be a crazy, crazy, crazy off-season.
3 crazies worth of crazy eh? They must be trading up very high in the draft for somebody. Calvin Johnson................... ha.
TraWilliam Thomas, Dhani Jones, and a 3rd rounder should get them into the top 5 with ease!
Quote from: MURP on March 06, 2007, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 06:43:11 AM
Dave's response when asked *when* the Eagles would get involved in free agency:
QuoteBefore the draft ... and maybe after the draft. This is going to be a crazy, crazy, crazy off-season.
3 crazies worth of crazy eh? They must be trading up very high in the draft for somebody. Calvin Johnson................... ha.
crazy, crazy, crazy = excruciatingly loooooooooooong and frustrating, from FA to the draft to June 1 to TC.
Porter's deal with Miami is 5 yrs, $32.5M, $20M guaranteed .....same as what Adalius Thomas got
Luke Petitgout just signed with the Buccaneers and will probably start at RT...
i was reading daves nfl column and this is what he had to say about two recent signings...
"the Texans paid crazy, crazy money for running back Ahman Green. Crazy" - green signed for 6.5 mil in guarantees
"seattle signed up patrick kearney, which could really pay off for the seahawks" -19.5 mil in guarantees
Wow! AJ Feeley!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 12:32:44 PM
i was reading daves nfl column and this is what he had to say about two recent signings...
"the Texans paid crazy, crazy money for running back Ahman Green. Crazy" - green signed for 6.5 mil in guarantees
"seattle signed up patrick kearney, which could really pay off for the seahawks" -19.5 mil in guarantees
He's been trained to believe that defensive linemen are significantly more valuable than running backs and that white guys are better than black guys... that's two strikes against Ahman Green.
So, yesterday on Sirius NFL radio Bobby Engram listed the Eagles among the teams he was interested in - Anyone think he might be worth taking a look at?
He's been trained to believe that defensive linemen are significantly more valuable than running backs and that white guys are better than black guys... that's two strikes against Ahman Green.
excellent points
Quote from: Cerevant on March 06, 2007, 12:45:58 PM
So, yesterday on Sirius NFL radio Bobby Engram listed the Eagles among the teams he was interested in - Anyone think he might be worth taking a look at?
He's certainly in the twilight of his career, but I'd take him, considering what we're currently looking at for a depth chart at WR.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 12:47:26 PM
excellent points
I know. Thanks.
Quote from: Cerevant on March 06, 2007, 12:45:58 PM
So, yesterday on Sirius NFL radio Bobby Engram listed the Eagles among the teams he was interested in - Anyone think he might be worth taking a look at?
I didn't know he was a FA. He's worth bringing in.
He and Reggie can trade pet excuses for dropping gimme passes.
Bobby Engram actually has very good hands
Oh? Seems to me none of the Seahawks could catch worth a damn the last few years.
he was the exception to the rule
oh my
banta-cain signed with sf
He can't catch either.
Ha!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 06, 2007, 01:39:15 PM
banta-cain signed with sf
jesus h. christ! what is going on in SF?
Napoleon Harris to Kansas City
Im not saying that I wanted Harris, Simmons or Banta-Cain, but I find it hilarious that all three are better than Dhani and McCoy and not one was brought in for a visit.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 06, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
Im not saying that I wanted Harris, Simmons or Banta-Cain, but I find it hilarious that all three are better than Dhani and McCoy and not one was brought in for a visit.
Hilarious in a cry-yourself-to-sleep way?
Quote
PETITGOUT DEAL WORTH MORE THAN ORIGINALLY REPORTED
Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that the contract signed by tackle Luke Petitgout with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is worth $15.5 million over three years, with a $3 million signing bonus. Original reports were that the Bucs would pay $6 million over three years.
Per a league source, Petitgout will get a roster bonus in 2007 of $1 million and a base salary of $2 million. In 2008, Petitgout is due to receive a roster bonus of $1.75 million and a base salary of $2.5 million. In 2009, Petitgout is scheduled to receive a roster bonus of $1.75 million and a base salary of $3.5 million.
The source of the original confusion is unclear. It's possible that someone made a mistake, and it's possible that someone (i.e., the team) was putting out bad info.
We'd previously heard that Petitgout was looking for at least $5 million per year, and that the team was offering the veteran minimum. So the real numbers are far closer to Petitgout's goal.
Funny thing is, of all the lineman who made HUGE dollars, Petitgout, bad back and all, is probably better than all of them in the short term.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 06, 2007, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 06, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
Im not saying that I wanted Harris, Simmons or Banta-Cain, but I find it hilarious that all three are better than Dhani and McCoy and not one was brought in for a visit.
Hilarious in a cry-yourself-to-sleep way?
No, hilarious in a "Oh wait, I just realized theyre all better than Trotter too" way.
But Omar Gaither... he's the troof, yo.
Reno's an unrestricted free agent. I wonder which team will pounce on him first!
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 03:37:42 PM
Reno's an unrestricted free agent. I wonder which team will pounce on him first!
Edmonton Eskimos?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 03:37:42 PM
Reno's an unrestricted free agent. I wonder which team will pounce on him first!
Rumor has it that Dave and Buster's wants to steal him away from C&P's.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2007, 03:37:42 PM
Reno's an unrestricted free agent. I wonder which team will pounce on him first!
nightmare on Broad Street: an UNtrue story
Eagles sign Reno Mahe to 4 year $12mil extension, converting him to WR, a position vacated by letting Dante Stallworth leave in free agency.
I heard the Philadium offered Reno 8 hrs a week/$5.50 an hour/no tips. (Eagles countered with $4.95).
Link (http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/10030961)
QuoteWord of caution to all fans out there: Don't believe the contract numbers being thrown around for the free agents being signed.
Here's why: They're usually pumped up by the agent.
When safety Michael Lewis signed with the 49ers over the weekend, it was reported as a deal that included $10 million in guarantees. But, according to figures obtained by CBS SportsLine.com, the deal has almost $10 million in roster bonuses -- not guarantees.
Lewis will get a roster bonus of $3.5 million this season, and then if he plays well, he'll get one $3.5 next season and $3 million in 2009. If he doesn't play well, the 49ers can cut him without paying the last two.
That reported $80 million deal for 49ers corner Nate Clements includes loads of funny money. It is a back-loaded deal with high base salary numbers that he will never see.
Clements received a $10 million signing bonus, which is good, but the last three years total $34 million in base salary. There is no way he ever plays for that kind of money.
Some of the other deals reported are as fluffy as those two. That's what agents do. They make their deals look better than they really are, but a closer look shows how false those numbers can be.
i don't know why SF signed Lewis, he can't even walk straight without falling down!
OHMYGODJOEHORN!!
The OMG...thing was funny....then it got old....now its funny again.
As you were.
Michael Lewis sucks against the run, too.
Daniel Graham to the Broncos .... 5 yrs, $30M, $15M guaranteed
Bobby Wade to the Vikings .... 5 yrs, $15M. The Vikings are desperate for anyone to sign there...
It's Minnesota. Nobody is eager to go play in a dome, wear purple, freeze to death and be sorrounded by a bunch of white people.
Graham and Scheffler will be a very effective pairing at tight end. Denver's been all over the place during the free agency period so far.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 06, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
Im not saying that I wanted Harris, Simmons or Banta-Cain, but I find it hilarious that all three are better than Dhani and McCoy and not one was brought in for a visit.
When have the Eagles ever brought anyone in for "a visit"? They either:
1) know they are going to sign them & do.
2) try to hold them hostage so they can't leave for the next FA visit (I think Andy hid Warrick Dunn's car keys when he was in)
3) The FA never makes it to Philly, as it's been their boyhood dream to rehab their knee in Cleveland
ha!
Updated: March 7, 2007, 1:31 AM ET
Broncos want Bly to play corner opposite Bailey
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The Broncos have heard cornerback Dre' Bly is bitter about being traded to Denver, and that he'd prefer to play for Washington.
The team, though, wants to give him some time to warm up to the deal. It's only been a few days since the 29-year-old Bly was acquired from Detroit -- along with a sixth-round pick -- for running back Tatum Bell, offensive lineman George Foster and a fifth-round pick.
"Hopefully he'll see the light," said Jim Bates, assistant head coach in charge of defense, at a Tuesday get-together for the Broncos' new coaches. "He'll see the opportunity in Denver of being part of a great football team, great organization and being opposite the side of Champ Bailey. Hopefully he'll come around and say, 'Hey, this is where I want to be.'"
If Bly doesn't come around, the Broncos could probably still get a deal done with the taterskins. A report on the Washington Post Web site on Tuesday night said that the team has restructured contracts in an attempt to make room for the defensive back.
Washington tried to acquire Bly from Detroit before he was dealt to the Broncos. NFL sources told the Post that the taterskins offered Bly a lucrative contract extension when they were trying to complete a trade with the Lions. Denver has not shown a willingness to extend Bly's current deal.
Bates hasn't spoken to Bly personally, but said others, including coach Mike Shanahan and general manager Ted Sundquist, have contacted him.
Bly's agent, Kennard McGuire, didn't return a call or an e-mail to The Associated Press.
"I don't know what Dre's thinking," Bates said. "Hopefully, over the next couple weeks, he'll come our direction and be positive. We want a positive player once we get in here."
The Post, citing people it did not name, reported Bly would rather play for the taterskins because they're closer to his home in Chesapeake, Va.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 06, 2007, 11:01:44 PM
Daniel Graham to the Broncos .... 5 yrs, $30M, $15M guaranteed
Bobby Wade to the Vikings .... 5 yrs, $15M. The Vikings are desperate for anyone to sign there...
It makes you wonder why they didn't go after Stallworth.
And with Graham's signing in Denver, I get the feeling LJ's numbers just went up--he won't be in Eagles green in 2008--and the Eagles might even entertain offers to trade him during the draft.
Could be Spadaros most homertastic piece yet...
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=65855 (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=65855)
that article is laughable...
my favorite part is how it's just so easy to get a speed WR in the draft.
bwahahaha
--the offense is automatic for 24 pts a game WITHOUT mcnabb
--he dropped a ryan moats
--what does this even mean? "Hank Baskett and Jason Avant saw enough game action in 2006 to understand the tempo of the NFL"
--jason davis lol
--thomas tapeh as the big back in a single back offense
--dustin fox lol
--jeremy bloom is the "obvious' choice in the punt return game
after all that he has the nerve in the nfl notes section to pretty much destroy every team in the league that has signed a player this offseason......"denver BETTER win the superbowl this year....what is going on out there?"
and i leave you with daves own words from the piece....
"But what do I know? Not much, honestly."
Rookie wide receivers are basically locks to fulfill their potential.
Y'know... I'm not one to bash Spads for his articles because I understand it's his job and all that but that article was farging disgusting.
As for the Eagles "ready to go out and score 24 points" - I wish the Pats were content to score 24 ppg the year they went out and signed Corey Dillon (after they had ALREADY won the Super Bowl). I wish the Colts were content to score 24 ppg when they decided to spend $40 mil to keep Reggie Wayne (even though they already had a HOF in Harrison on the other side). These are the teams the Eagles like to compare themselves to... yet they still jump at the opportunities to make themselves better when the opportunity is there.
farg scoring 24 points... even if that's true (which there's no way in hell that it is) take care of your good players on offense and score 27-30 ppg. I'm so farging tired of this team being happy where it is. They haven't won shtein and they need to improve wherever they can. To see them be so carefree with Stallworth dangling out there is sickening.
Quit farging around and get this motherfarger back on the team.
sure, the Eagles can go out and score 24 points, and they can give up 28
Quote from: rjs246 on March 07, 2007, 09:23:07 AM
Rookie wide receivers are basically locks to fulfill their potential.
Sure. Freddie did. So did Pinkston.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 07, 2007, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 07, 2007, 09:23:07 AM
Rookie wide receivers are basically locks to fulfill their potential.
Sure. Freddie did. So did Pinkston.
They sure did fulfill their potential... their potential to be 2 of the worst picks that Andy has made on the offensive side of the ball.
I forget who raised the idea first..FF?..but I really wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles brought Pinkston back. Only reason I can see they wouldn't is if he's still pressing his grievance about being traded while still injured, or whatever it was. I can already hear Reid saying that Pink has had a lot of time to heal, has been working out for months and is already in football shape, etc.
its pretty farging ballsy to say without hesitation that the eagles will score 24 a game without even thinking about it with aj feely as your qb and 27-30 if mcnabb is the qb
the eagles high with mcnabb is 25 pts one time and every other year was under 24
27-30 is peyton manning colts numbers
Classic Spewdaro. Classic.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
its pretty farging ballsy to say without hesitation that the eagles will score 24 a game without even thinking about it with aj feely as your qb and 27-30 if mcnabb is the qb
the eagles high with mcnabb is 25 pts one time and every other year was under 24
27-30 is peyton manning colts numbers
Oh yeah... I didn't mean 27-30 literally.
My point being is that you should be looking to maximize your ppg by utilitizing good offensive players... especially when you have one sitting right up under your nose and begging to stay on the team.
Don't be content with your "imaginary" 24 ppg...
I don't bother myself with what Spadaro spews because it's his job. It's fine he wants to paint the rosiest picture he can... I do worry when I think he's in part repeating what Reid/Heckert have told him. If he believes this stuff, fine. If they believe it... I'm worried.
Oh yeah... I didn't mean 27-30 literally.
yeah i know you didnt...spads did
Quote from: Diomedes on March 07, 2007, 09:45:50 AM
I forget who raised the idea first..FF?..but I really wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles brought Pinkston back. Only reason I can see they wouldn't is if he's still pressing his grievance about being traded while still injured, or whatever it was. I can already hear Reid saying that Pink has had a lot of time to heal, has been working out for months and is already in football shape, etc.
It seems even more possible now than when I first said it, but yeah... that was me.
hugh douglas is in for gargano today and got michael lewis to call in and give his version of what went down last year....among the lowlights
--signed with sf because they had a lot of money to give but also because a college coach of his who he really likes is there
--still cant believe he was 'benched for one play'
--the week before the new orleans game he was told by jj that he was having an excellent year and doing everything they wanted
--knew it was over when the eagles offered him an extension last fall and he declined...banner and reid proceeded to tell them (him and his agent) how dissapointed they were (two weeks later came the benching) ...right then and there he knew it was over
--EVERYONE gets burned in the nfl
--after the benching could never get a sit down with reid or jj only with his position coach who didnt have a an explanation why considine was in and he was out
--dawk and trotter strongly disagreed with the benching but didnt say anything to the coaches but helped lewis thru what was a difficult time
--once he woudlnt sign he knew they wanted to see what they had in considine
--still cant believe he was told by the team that he coulndt play anymore...but never lost confidence and vows to make the pro bowl again this year
--sf contract was for more money than the eagles ever offered at anytime
--has no hard feelings as the eagles gave him a chance when others were worried about his heart condition and he wont ever forget that
Oh, here's my in-depth analysis of Spads' most recent genius article:
QuoteBut what do I know? Not much, honestly.
...an excellent way to build credibility with the reader early in the article.
QuoteThe offense is ready to line up in September and score 24 points
All year? That's not very good.
QuoteYou want to run the ball with Brian Westbrook and Ryan Moats?
Run the ball? Yes. With Westbrook? Yes. With Moats? HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHHAAHAHAHAHA
QuoteWorried about pure speed, given, in this scenario, the loss of Donte' Stallworth?
Yes. Yes I am.
QuoteIf the Eagles feel the need for speed, they can go out and get some in the draft. A gaggle of receivers run legitimate 4.3 40s, so speed is not a worry.
I want to choke someone. Preferably Dave or "munsin".
Quoteboth Hank Baskett and Jason Avant saw enough game action in 2006 to understand the tempo of the NFL
I *understand* the tempo of the NFL. That doesn't mean I belong on the field.
QuoteI have Jason Davis as my second fullback. Davis is a player who is going to make a real push this year. Mark my words.
Consider them marked, buddy.
QuoteDefensively, there are more questions.
That's pretty much the biggest understatement ever written in any opinion piece ever. It's like saying that George W. Bush "might not be the best President in the history of the United States".
QuoteAdd in the prospects of an improved Brodrick Bunkley and Chris Gocong
No.
QuoteThey would have to show they have enough depth at corner -- at this point, Joselio Hanson and Dustin Fox are the reserves
I literally want to cry, drink, and punch people. In the scrotums.
QuoteThe return game would have a new look, with Jeremy Bloom the obvious choice in the punt game. The kickoff return specialist would be Bloom at this point.
Let's go ahead and bank on that, shall we? When was the last time Jeremy Bloom played football competitively? 2002?
QuoteI haven't play pretend like this since I was a kid. I'm kind of enjoying it.
I'm.... I... wow.
QuoteAnd what I see is a team that doesn't have a lot of holes.
I suppose none of them technically have a vagina, so I'll give him that... but only in the most literal of interpretations.
QuoteIf you are a logical Eagles fan, you understand what I am seeing.
Right. Except for the exact opposite.
QuoteThe Eagles have a very good team right now
Incorrect.
QuoteBobby Wade for $15 million over five years? What the heck is Minnesota doing?
They also signed Brad Childress and Mike McMahon last offseason, and acquired Billy McMullen. Looks like they're trying to follow the "gold standard" to me.
Quote# The Jets made a really good move with Thomas Jones. Wow. The AFC is loaded with New England, San Diego, Denver, the Jets ... that is going to be great competition in that conference this year.
Yeah, good thing our team of bona fide superstars doesn't have to play the AFC champion to win a Super Bowl!
Worst article ever.
I'm.... I... wow
ha
Yeah, good thing our team of bona fide superstars doesn't have to play the AFC champion to win a Super Bowl!
not only that but the eagles have to play at new england and the jets
The Eagles will obviously win in NE if they match up Joselio one on one against Donte Stallworth.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 07, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
its pretty farging ballsy to say without hesitation that the eagles will score 24 a game without even thinking about it with aj feely as your qb and 27-30 if mcnabb is the qb
the eagles high with mcnabb is 25 pts one time and every other year was under 24
27-30 is peyton manning colts numbers
2006 - 24.875 p/g
2005 - 19.375
2004 - 24.125
2003 - 23.375
2002 - 25.9375
2001 - 21.4375
2000 - 21.9375
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 07, 2007, 12:52:18 PM
The Eagles will obviously win in NE if they match up Joselio one on one against Donte Stallworth.
Joselio + huge dong = shut. down. corner.
the lewis interview...
http://www.610wip.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=477035
Quote
--EVERYONE gets burned in the nfl
Forgive me if I don't get broken-hearted and cry over these athletes getting "burned" because their current team doesn't want them and they sign for tens of millions of dollars somewhere else. "I have to move my family." "They didn't even want to talk to me." Cry me a farging river........
burned like izell jenkins burned
Toast
QuoteCorey Dillon will make his first free agent visit Thursday, with the Buffalo Bills.
Buffalo has hosted Dominic Rhodes and Chris Brown this week as they prepare to deal Willis McGahee. The Ravens seem to be viewing Dillon as a fallback plan if they can't acquire McGahee.
The sad thing is that Spadaro is the mouthpiece for the Eagles and the Eagles probably believe everything Spadaro said. Which is why they haven't brought any free agents in yet.
The situation is just starting to become laughable at this point.
Quote
Bills | Team working on sending McGahee to Baltimore
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:56:54 -0800
ESPNews reports the Baltimore Ravens are working with the Buffalo Bills on a trade to acquire Bills RB Willis McGahee.
Quote
Broncos | Team still working on deal with Washington
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:41:49 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington taterskins and Denver Broncos are actively trying to work out a deal, with the Broncos seeking the No. 6 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft and the taterskins looking to acquire CB Dre' Bly. The Broncos tried to offer LB Al Wilson and a package of draft picks for the taterskins' high draft pick, but the deal fell through when the taterskins opted to sign LB London Fletcher-Baker instead of trading for Wilson. Also, the taterskins have offered CB Shawn Springs in a deal for Bly, but the Broncos are not willing to give the taterskins cap relief for the $7.5 million charge they would receive by trading Springs. With both teams still coveting their targets, and with Bly still reportedly looking to play in Washington, it is still possible for some kind of swap involving Bly and the taterskins' first-round pick to happen before the draft.
I hope the Broncos own the taterskins like they normally do in trades. I saw some other rumors say the Broncos are pressing hard to get Betts from them, even after they got Henry. That would be hilarious if the Broncos could make off with Betts, the #6 pick, and give up Bly and their first round pick.
On his section of the EMB, Dave said that Bunkley's weight wasn't the problem. It's his form and technique. But, he said not to worry... because Bunkley will be a "pet project" this year.
14th overall picks are not pet projects. Reno Mahe's and Dustin Fox's and Jason Davis's are pet project.
STAB STAB STAB DEATH KILL FIRE HATE
14th overall picks are not pet projects
especially in their 2nd year
My prediction for Bunkley in 2007: He'll come into camp in great shape, impress the coaches, do well in the preseason...and get injured.
Sounds plausible.
Pet project? In his second year?
What's the point of drafting anymore? The Eagles should just trade away all their picks and make a bunch of Rookie FA signings come the Monday after the draft and just groom those players for the NFL. Save a bunch of cap room!
What is even more disheartening is seeing how many rookies made impacts throughout the league last season and played very well in their first season in the league -- yet the Eagles seem perfectly content with drafting raw talent in the first round.
I might have to ignore the Eagles threads on this board until the first game thread of next year. This shtein is so farging infuriating.
It absolutely is. I won't spend a dime on this team again until they prove they have a real plan to get this team over the hump.
Free Agency has just started. Relax. The same crap was being said last year until they signed Stallworth.
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 04:49:23 PM
Free Agency has just started. Relax. The same crap was being said last year until they signed Stallworth.
You mean until they traded a 4th rounder for a one-year rental player? Right.
How is he a rental if he hasn't signed anywere else yet?
You mean until they traded a 4th rounder for a one-year rental player?
two weeks before the season started...yeah that happens every year
that being said i still believe the eagles wil sign a lb rb and wr this year...who they are may leave a lot to be desired but they will do it
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 04:49:23 PM
Free Agency has just started. Relax.
all the great players sign right before the season!
Everyone's too busy dissing Spards article and misisng the most important part of it.
Jeremy Bloom was mentioned in the return game...and not ONE word about Reno Mahe.
He just may finally be gone.
From Spads article that everyone is quoting it seems like Spadaro thinks that the Eagles, by signing all their younger players to contract extensions, constitutes the extent of their "free agency period."
I like this quote: "In case you don't understand where the Eagles have spent their salary-cap dollars, let's review. In the last 10 months or so, they have signed the following players to long-term contracts: Shawn Andrews, Jamaal Jackson, Brian Dawkins, Reggie Brown, Mike Patterson, Trent Cole and Todd Herremans. Additionally, the Eagles have signed A.J. Feeley, Quintin Mikell and Juqua Thomas. Got it? Now tell me which of those players are you not happy to have for the long term?"
I could probably have done without extending Patterson and Herremans right now if that meant locking up Stallworth and making a run at trying to woo a LB like Adalius Thomas on the team. I like Herremans, but the OL depth isn't too big of a concern right now and I wouldn't make it a priority to lock him up right now. The 3 most recent signings aren't exactly bank breaking extensions -- so throwing those in just gives the illusion that the Eagles are really trying to improve the team "at all costs."
I'm going to try and not get too excited until something happens or doesn't happen. Every year at this time it's the same ole' same ole'. All the neggie's bash the FO until a FA signing, trade, or something no one saw coming happens in the draft. That type of predictable behavior is becoming quite borish.
It was the same thing before the season started when the NFC East was supposed to be sooo good and the Eagles had no chance.
I'll admit, I would like to have seen them go after an Adalius Thomas, but I'm not passing judgment until it's all said and done.
If the season starts without Stallworth or another decent reciever, and no signing of a LB, Dlineman, or Dback, then I'll be in line to bitch and moan.
Quote from: Eaglez on March 07, 2007, 05:11:34 PM
From Spads article
I couldn't get past the
"if McNabb comes back healthy" part.
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 04:57:21 PM
How is he a rental if he hasn't signed anywere else yet?
Your optimism would be refreshing if I didn't want to punch you so badly.
Is my optimism refreshing?
Joe Horn to the Falcons
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 07, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
Joe Horn to the Falcons
I posted it in the correct forum before you posted it here. I win. You suck. Go home. Die. Stab.
How many days until opening day for the Phils?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 07, 2007, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 07, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
Joe Horn to the Falcons
I posted it in the correct forum before you posted it here. I win. You suck. Go home. Die. Stab.
AIDS?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 07, 2007, 05:39:09 PM
I posted it in the correct forum before you posted it here. I win. You suck. Go home. Die. Stab.
Sometimes you're so stupid you're hilarious. Congratulations.
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 05:23:32 PM
I'm going to try and not get too excited until something happens or doesn't happen. Every year at this time it's the same ole' same ole'. All the neggie's bash the FO until a FA signing, trade, or something no one saw coming happens in the draft. That type of predictable behavior is becoming quite borish.
It was the same thing before the season started when the NFC East was supposed to be sooo good and the Eagles had no chance.
I'll admit, I would like to have seen them go after an Adalius Thomas, but I'm not passing judgment until it's all said and done.
If the season starts without Stallworth or another decent reciever, and no signing of a LB, Dlineman, or Dback, then I'll be in line to bitch and moan.
I didn't say shtein last year. But they send Spads out there with some retread crap, it's really f'ing annoying. Maybe when they sign anyone but a retread LB, I'll stop bitching.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 07, 2007, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 04:57:21 PM
How is he a rental if he hasn't signed anywere else yet?
Your optimism would be refreshing if I didn't want to punch you so badly.
Just how bad do you want too? PhillyGirl usually handles my light work, but in your case I'll make an exception.
By the way, has anyone thought of the possibility of Stallworth exploring the market, getting offers and giving the Eagles a chance to match said offers? He got what looks to be a great offer from New England, and is still shopping. I mean, what receiver wouldn't want to play for that offense? Especially for the money they offered him??
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 07, 2007, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: shorebird on March 07, 2007, 04:49:23 PM
Free Agency has just started. Relax. The same crap was being said last year until they signed Stallworth.
You mean until they traded a 4th rounder for a one-year rental player? Right.
After Donte signs with the Tennessee Titans and blows up for 65+ receptions and 1200 yards, the Eagles will get a compensation pick from the NFL at the end of the 2nd or 3rd round.
Which they'll squander by drafting a player that makes no impact.
Adam Schefter supposedly said the Eagles are interested in Donnie Edwards.
Would take him in a heartbeat but I hear his salary demands are outrageous.
Quote from: King Cole on March 07, 2007, 08:13:05 PM
Adam Schefter supposedly said the Eagles are interested in Donnie Edwards.
Isn't he like 40?
Jamal Lewis to the Browns
Patrick Ramsey to the Broncos
Jay Feely to the Dolphins
The Packers released William Henderson
The Buccaneers signed Lance Legree and Kenny Smith
The Ravens released Edwin Mulitalo after putting a tag on him 2 weeks ago
Rumors of Willis McGahee being traded to the Ravens for 2nd and 5th-rd picks
Who is gonna be the rusher in Buffalo if McGahee is traded? Anthony Thomas going to be their guy?
Quote from: Diomedes on March 07, 2007, 09:28:44 PM
Who is gonna be the rusher in Buffalo if McGahee is traded? Anthony Thomas going to be their guy?
They brought in Dillon and Chris Brown for visits, so I assume either.
Quote from: King Cole on March 07, 2007, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 07, 2007, 09:28:44 PM
Who is gonna be the rusher in Buffalo if McGahee is traded? Anthony Thomas going to be their guy?
They brought in Dillon and Chris Brown for visits, so I assume either.
They're looking at Dominic Rhodes too.
Anthony Thomas himself is an unrestricted free agent. The team will only deal McGahee if it knows that it should be ok at the RB position without him.
I'd take Donnie E. in a heart beat. Bills could prob be looking at the draft for RB, maybe trade up? Sign a vet and draft a RB?
Edwards would be a solid addition. Dude is a tackling machine and can play strongside.
Alright, I'm convinced. GET EDWARDS!
i haven't understood the McGahee trade rumors since they started, what's going on in Buffalo?
last year of his contract and they dont believethey can/dont want to resign him
Buffalo is gay
All buffalo teams are GHEY
Buffalo Bills = the Phils of the NFL
Donnie Edwards as an Eagle = Feva happy
i read 'as' as 'is' at first, damn you
Slow your illiterate ass down then...
Quote from: SunMo on March 08, 2007, 09:24:15 AM
i read 'as' as 'is' at first, damn you
Temple grad, too?
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 08, 2007, 09:27:36 AM
Slow your illiterate ass down then...
talk about 'pot and kettle'
Quote from: SunMo on March 08, 2007, 08:38:11 AM
i haven't understood the McGahee trade rumors since they started, what's going on in Buffalo?
I didn't get this either. I'm not exactly following the Bills press, but I guess they just don't like the guy? It's strange to me..they have Henry and piss him off by drafting gimpy McGahee on the chance that he recovers to form. This he does, but Henry continues to be disgruntled along the way, so they move him, add Thomas...and now they're moving McGahee?? So they can add Dillon or Rhodes, or someone like that?
They either don't know what they're doing, or they just can't stand Willis, OR they don't value consistency at RB.
duh, that's the point
McGahee criticized the fans and management and said the team should be relocated to Toronto. He was also slapped with 2 or 3 paternity suits.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 08, 2007, 09:28:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on March 08, 2007, 08:38:11 AM
i haven't understood the McGahee trade rumors since they started, what's going on in Buffalo?
I didn't get this either. I'm not exactly following the Bills press, but I guess they just don't like the guy? It's strange to me..they have Henry and piss him off by drafting gimpy McGahee on the chance that he recovers to form. This he does, but Henry continues to be disgruntled along the way, so they move him, add Thomas...and now they're moving McGahee?? So they can add Dillon or Rhodes, or someone like that?
They either don't know what they're doing, or they just can't stand Willis, OR they don't value consistency at RB.
... or maybe they're trying to get something for him now because they know they can't resign him when he'll be able to command mega money after this season.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 08, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
McGahee criticized the fans and management and said the team should be relocated to Toronto. He was also slapped with 2 or 3 paternity suits.
He sounds like a natural fit with the Ravens.
or maybe they're trying to get something for him now because they know they can't resign him when he'll be able to command mega money after this season.
bingo
and their fans are pathetic...you ever see highlites of their games and certain camera shots hit the upper deck and there are literally full sections of empty seats
Schefter (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511):
QuoteFree-agent WR Kevin Curtis is scheduled to visit the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday after he finishes up with the New York Giants.
The Philadelphia Eagles have signed free-agent wide receiver Bethel Johnson to a one-year contract.
Meh.
If Stallworth isn't re-signed I'd rather the remaining cap go towards defense or a big RB. We don't need another 3rd receiver, we already have 3 of them on the roster.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 08, 2007, 10:13:14 AM
If Stallworth isn't re-signed I'd rather the remaining cap go towards defense or a big RB. We don't need another 3rd receiver, we already have 3 of them on the roster.
Based on the money for which I've heard he's asking and the fact that the current non-Reggies on the roster are no better than #3's, I'd say Curtis would certainly be a starter.
if they don't sign Stallworth, Curtis wouldn't be the worse thing ever to play opposite of Brown, depending what they pay him
Quote from: SunMo on March 08, 2007, 10:17:27 AM
if they don't sign Stallworth, Curtis wouldn't be the worse thing ever to play opposite of Brown, depending what they pay him
6 years / 31.5 million?
IN!
Is it wrong i'd still rather have Stallworth. I look at Curtis and wonder if it was all du2 a contract year?
So we signed Bethel Johnson? Wasn't he the fastest dook in the nfl at one point? Is he a shoe in for return guy? Kevin Curtis will be this years Jabar Gaffney. No thanks.
curtis had a few numbers hiding behind holt and bruce...but i cringe to think what hed do in a mix with reggie baskett and avant
i agree with mussa hes 07 gaffney
Quote from: mussa on March 08, 2007, 10:30:44 AM
Kevin Curtis will be this years Jabar Gaffney.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2007, 10:46:36 AM
i agree with mussa hes 07 gaffney
So you're saying they'll bring Curtis in, cut him when he doesn't seem to be picking up the playbook, and they another team will snatch him up, we'll he'll become an excellent contributor?
Neither Curtis or Gaffney are number one guys. They would fail miserably in that role, but Curtis would be a good fit, ONLY if he is replacing Baskett or Avant as the number two or three guy. In order for it to work out without Stallworth being resigned, is for Reggie Brown to seriously step up.......kind of like we were hoping last year before they signed Stallworth....
Cheggie Brownson. :-\
Spew ain't talking about it. (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=423795&st=0&p=8235918&#entry8235918)
Oh yeah, he's there.
:-D
i dont think he will be cut...but i dont think gaffney should have been cut...what im saying isk hes the same signing just a year later
curtis would be a real solid three behind a legit 1 and 2...for him to be in the 1 2 3 mix is not good
SD or anyone else with Sirius.....did you hear anything about an LJ/2nd-rd pick to Chicago for Briggs rumor/idea? ???
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 11:28:25 AM
SD or anyone else with Sirius.....did you hear anything about an LJ/2nd-rd pick to Chicago for Briggs rumor/idea? ???
Hahahahahahahahaha... Sounds like an EMB special.
Bears want Miller TE in the draft. Why would they want a catching TE? They want a guy who blocks and can catch, like everyone else in the league...
They said that Sirius was talking about it, so I asked. It's not the usual "my friend's dad's sister's boyfriend heard...." crap from EMB...
Eagles reported interested in Ryan Fowler (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/504605).
WHITEBREAD LB from Duke! Where do I sign up for his bandwagon?!?
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 11:38:21 AM
They said that Sirius was talking about it, so I asked. It's not the usual "my friend's dad's sister's boyfriend heard...." crap from EMB...
If its true...
Make. This. Trade. Now.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 08, 2007, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 11:38:21 AM
They said that Sirius was talking about it, so I asked. It's not the usual "my friend's dad's sister's boyfriend heard...." crap from EMB...
If its true...
Make. This. Trade. Now.
Then. Sign. Some. Sort. Of. TE. Like. Maybe. Jerramy. Stevens. Or. Something. Because. Schobel. Sucks.
Eric Johnson to Saints, Eagles interested in Donnie Edwards, Kevin Curtis is mildly retarded (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10045786)
Very little of the article is new news, but it does mean that Curtis won't be able to sign anywhere until March 10... and it also takes away a possible FA insurance possibility if the Eagles truly are looking to trade L.J.
Randy McMichael?
There is roughly an equal chance of the Eagles giving Thomas Hamner another shot.
id have no problem with schobel as the starter at TE...i think hes much better than he showed last year and would be succesful full time in this offense
that being said i wouldnt give LJ away because they have schobel...but if it were for briggs or some other trade that yeilded a high return then id be comfortable with schobel stepping in without having to sign someone else
Good point. Also, Baskett's tall, so he'd be a natural for two TE sets. Or, they could just bring back Andy Thorn.
Or they could draft Greg Olsen at 26
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 08, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
Eric Johnson to Saints, Eagles interested in Donnie Edwards, Kevin Curtis is mildly retarded (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10045786)
Very little of the article is new news, but it does mean that Curtis won't be able to sign anywhere until March 10... and it also takes away a possible FA insurance possibility if the Eagles truly are looking to trade L.J.
Not ture. Curtis can't get an agent until the 10th, he can negotiate on his own behalf, and if he so chooses, make a deal.
Quote
No free agent has engaged in more bizarre behavior than St. Louis' free-agent wide receiver Kevin Curtis.
At a time when Curtis had lucrative offers from the Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions, and considerable interest from the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants, the wide receiver fired his agent, Tom Condon, one of the league's most notorious power brokers.
Curtis is expected to hire the Tollner cousins, Bruce and Ryan, which he has not done yet, nor can he. Under the NFL Players Association guidelines, a player must wait five days from the time he fires an agent until the time he hires another. Using those rules, Curtis could not hire the Tollers before March 10. If and when he does, the Tollners will represent Curtis well.
But in the interim, Curtis is conducting business as usual, spending today in New York, visiting with Giants officials, whom he was supposed to meet with the night of March 5 before he decided to return to his home in Utah. (The mormon card???)
Those who know Curtis say he would prefer to play for a West Coast team. Problem is, the San Francisco 49ers and San Diego Chargers haven't shown any interest in him. And teams that have dealt with Curtis over the past week have thought his judgment and actions awkward at best.
It's hard to believe Curtis is going to get more money by switching agents. But those who know him say money has not been the driving force behind these decisions. It is the unpredictable behavior of an indecisive wide receiver struggling to figure out where he wants to continue his football career.
This dude may just be foolish enough to try to do a deal by himself...
The LJ/Briggs thing sounds like wild speculation to me. If the Bears were that hot for a TE who is established, why not just grab McMichael who has better stats than LJ over about the same period of time, and is a better blocker? They could keep Briggs this way as well, and sure, they'd have to pay McMichael, but LJ wants a new deal as well...
QuoteRavens | More on McGahee trade
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:22:23 -0800
Updating an immediate report, ESPN.com's Michael Smith reports the Baltimore Ravens acquired RB Willis McGahee from the Buffalo Bills in exchange for the team's third and seventh-round picks in the 2007 draft and the Ravens' third-round pick in 2008.
Ravens | McGahee acquired
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:15:35 -0800
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Baltimore Ravens acquired RB Willis McGahee from the Buffalo Bills for a third-round pick in 2007 and two more undisclosed draft picks.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 11:28:25 AM
SD or anyone else with Sirius.....did you hear anything about an LJ/2nd-rd pick to Chicago for Briggs rumor/idea? ???
I just put it on, I'll report if I hear anything.
I like getting Briggs but think we're giving up too much.
Damn... the Ravens made out like bandits. Good deal for them.
they still need to extend his deal though. FA after the season...
either way tis a good deal for the ravens...i know as eagle fans we arent used to a team doing this but they are going for a superbowl THIS year they needed a rb bad and they went out and got a very good one
plus they are going to get a third for losing adalius thomas and the seventh is a throw away pick...they gave up very little
We're not used to the Eagles trading a 3rd-round pick for a need position player with 1 year remaining that's represented by Rosenhaus?
no not used to going out and getting players to win a superbowl...stallworth made the eagle wide recievers not embarrassing...mcgahee makes the ravens team superbowl worthy
if youre not gonna resign the player then...
3rd rounder for a one year superbowl run = worth it
3rd rounder for one good year of wr's = not worth it
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 01:21:56 PM
We're not used to the Eagles trading a 3rd-round pick for a need position player with 1 year remaining that's represented by Rosenhaus?
ha!
Don't get me wrong-- it's a good deal for the Ravens-- but McGahee is overrated a bit; and they'll have to pay through the nose to re-sign him.
McGahee was traded for a 3rd and 7th this season and a 3rd next season.
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McGAHEE TRADE HINGES ON NEW DEAL
We were caught up in some day-job stuff earlier today, and we're catching up on the flow of the NFL info.
Here's what we know about the McGahee deal, plenty of which is already reported elsewhere. The Ravens sent a third-round pick and a seventh-round pick in 2007 and a third round pick in 2008. The deal hinges on the Ravens working out a long-term extension with McGahee, and the deadline is March 13.
Stay tuned.
Quote
Rams | McMichael signs
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:26:00 -0800
StLouisRams.com reports the St. Louis Rams have signed unrestricted free-agent TE Randy McMichael (Dolphins) to a three-year deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.
McMichael's deal wasn't too big.
McMICHAEL AGREES WITH RAMS
A league source tells us that tight end Randy McMichael has agreed to terms with the Rams. Under the three-year, $11 million deal, McMichael will receive a $3 million signing bonus, and salaries of $1.5 million in 2007, $2.9 million in 2008, and $3.6 million in 2009.
Given that McMichael was due to earn $4 million from the Dolphins this year, the release resulted in $500,000 in extra money for the veteran tight end.
Update on McGahee's contract:
Quote
McGAHEE DEAL: SEVEN YEARS, $40.12 MILLION
We're told that the Ravens and running back Willis McGahee are very close to agreeing on a seven-year deal worth $40.12 million.
As we previously explained, McGahee will receive $7.5 million to sign, an initial option bonus of $6 million, and a second option bonus of $1.5 million. The salaries are $595,000 in 2007, $605,000 in 2008, $620,000 in 2009, $3.6 million in 2010, $6.0 million in 2011, $6.5 million in 2012, and $7.2 million in 2013.
Since McGahee was due to earn $2.155 million in 2007, the deal is essentially a six-year extension worth $37.965 million.
If the Ravens cut McGahee before the back-end salaries kick in, he will earn a total of $20.42 million over four years.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 08, 2007, 03:17:49 PM
If the Ravens cut McGahee before the back-end salaries kick in, he will earn a total of $20.42 million over four years.
^^ a much more accurate take ^^
its basically the deal westbrook got give or take a million
Eskin says Curtis is visiting tomorrow, not today
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 03:39:39 PM
Eskin says Curtis is visiting tomorrow, not today
He can't sign until Saturday anyway, so fine.
I have mixed feelings about him. On one hand, he's definitely better than Baskett/Avant/Lewis... but on the other hand, he couldn't push an elderly Isaac Bruce out of the Rams' lineup last year, and he's certainly not in the same realm of playmaking ability as is Donte'.
Anyone catch Schefter on Eagles Live?
I can't listen to it at work, but a buddy told me that Schefter says the Birds seriously want Donnie Edwards.
Said that it seems either Corey Dillon or Chris Brown will be an Eagle.
The Eagles are looking to go DB in round one, and that they love Michael Bush out of Louisville.....
The Eagles will get to be a lot more active in the next 24-48 hours of FA.
FWIW, PE.com has officially announced the Curtis visit for tomorrow. Press conference will be held at 1:30pm.
press conference for what...you usualy only schedule a presser to announce a singing
He can't sign, he doesn't even have an agent yet.
sign him. The WR's need SOME SORT of fricken improvement and it isnt coming in the draft.
I'd rather get one in the draft to be honest. Curtis is average.
Quote from: King Cole on March 08, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
I'd rather get one in the draft to be honest. Curtis is average.
yeah well you would be so lucky to have Andy Reid even draft an average WR.
Billy McMullen, Freddie Milons, Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston, Gari Scott, Na Brown,
, Jason Avant, Jeremy Bloom, Troy Smith
Not excited about Curtis. I've watched him her in St. Louis plenty. Moments of flash, followed by days or weeks of averageness.
He is nothing special.
Quote from: King Cole on March 08, 2007, 03:50:30 PM
He can't sign, he doesn't even have an agent yet.
YES HE CAN. Read before you post. He does not need an agent to sign a deal. He'd be stupid to do without an agent, but he can do it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2007, 03:49:43 PM
press conference for what...you usualy only schedule a presser to announce a singing
The Eagles have been known to have guys address the media to say how much they enjoyed their visit, even if they haven't signed.
Plus, they could always agree in principle with Curtis and then finalize the paperwork on Saturday.
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2007, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 08, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
I'd rather get one in the draft to be honest. Curtis is average.
yeah well you would be so lucky to have Andy Reid even draft an average WR.
Billy McMullen, Freddie Milons, Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston, Gari Scott, Na Brown,
, Jason Avant, Jeremy Bloom, Troy Smith
To quote PG.... this.
Quote from: King Cole on March 08, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
I'd rather get one in the draft to be honest. Curtis is average.
If the Eagles signed Kevin Curtis they would definitely have the most pastey's starting at non-line spots.
WR Kevin Curtis
LB Matt McCoy
S Sean Considine
DRAFT POZSLYSZKY1!
Anyone else think that Reuben Droughns might shake loose in Cleveland, now that they've signed Jamal Lewis?
Droughns would be a great change-of-pace for Westbrook.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 08, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
Anyone else think that Reuben Droughns might shake loose in Cleveland, now that they've signed Jamal Lewis?
Droughns would be a great change-of-pace for Westbrook.
Yessir... sign me up.
I'd take him over Brown or Dillon.
Reuben Doughns has had a few run ins with the law. I doubt Reid wants him.
Why? Andy could call him son.
I doubt Reid wants his sons either.
Cory Dillon is the best option IMO. Big back, with experience. He's a pounder, who is also pretty decent receiver if I recall correctly.
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2007, 04:08:52 PM
I doubt Reid wants his sons either.
Damn abortion laws in this country are too restrictive.
i always liked labrandon toefield since his lsu days...he always seems to be nicked up but i wouldnt mind taking a run at him
i like chris brown a lot to but he cant catch the ball well enough imo
curtis would be okay...edwards would be better than okay.
forget about dillon...he wants more than the 8-10 carries he'd get in philly.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
i always liked labrandon toefield since his lsu days...he always seems to be nicked up but i wouldnt mind taking a run at him
i like chris brown a lot to but he cant catch the ball well enough imo
What about Jonathan Wells?
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2007, 04:27:21 PM
curtis would be okay...edwards would be better than okay.
forget about dillon...he wants more than the 8-10 carries he'd get in philly.
He may have to retire then, because if the Bills don't sign him, then he is out of luck.
Curtis is "meeting the media", not having a press conference. It means they'll talk to him for 5 minutes on the NovaCare sidewalk...
ah thanks easy...that makes more sense
After signing Kerney, Seattle released Grant Wistrom today...
FWIW
Quote from: DaveSpadaro,Mar 8 2007, 04:30 PMNext few days should be interesting
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
FWIW
Quote from: DaveSpadaro,Mar 8 2007, 04:30 PMNext few days should be interesting
FWIW = 0.00
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 05:19:54 PM
After signing Kerney, Seattle released Grant Wistrom today...
(http://a1.vox.com/6a00c2251d5fe78e1d00c225206a71604a-200pi)
NERDS!
I'm secretly hoping we sign Dillon:
QuoteBills | Dillon does not visit
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:06:20 -0800
Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the Buffalo Bills had hoped to meet with unrestricted free-agent RB Corey Dillon (Patriots) Thursday, March 8, but Dillon did not make the trip to Buffalo.
Dillon would be a good fit if he's interested in averaging less than 10 carries a game and signing no more than a 2-year-deal. The Eagles won't accommodate anything more than that.
Dillon is a good short-term solution. He's an experienced big back that works well between the tackles. I think he would be a great compliment to Westbrook.
It would be nice to have Dillon line up as a single back and then split Westbrook out wide. I like the possibilities.
Spadaro on the WR's (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=65948)
QuoteA week ago, most of us thought the Eagles would enter the 2007 season with Brown, Lewis, Baskett, Avant and either Stallworth -- if the team could re-sign him -- or a high draft pick or maybe Jeremy Bloom if he showed he could really blossom in the spring and summer. There were some other dark horse candidates, including youngster Billy Sampy, in whom the Eagles see a lot of talent, but the aforementioned group was pretty much what we thought would constitute the wide receiver corps this season.
Stabby stabby.
That's what is annoying about Spadaro. Yes, Sampy showed talent in the preseason and probably has during practices. Why bother talking about it when he's going to be de-activated if he makes the team anyways? He wont get any playing time.
Schefter was on Total Access and said the Bills were no longer interested in Dillon, mentioned the Eagles as possible suitors.
The Bills weren't interested in Dillon, or Dillon wasn't interested in the Bills?
He said Dillon canceled his visit with the Bills - he did not miss it.
Schefter mentioned that Dillon wants to go to a team like Philly, becuase it is the best place left in need of a second back in terms of ability to get to the post season.
Sounded good. Let's hope the FO acts on it.
...and we pray! :evil
Quote
Browns | Droughns to be released
Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:15:25 -0800
Adam Schefter, of NFL Network, reports Cleveland Browns RB Reuben Droughns will be released.
I think I would take Droughns over Dillon or Brown, but given his past legal problems, it's a long shot the Eagles if sniff in his direction.
Quote from: PPinDC on March 08, 2007, 08:24:09 PM
Schefter mentioned that Dillon wants to go to a team like Philly, becuase it is the best place left in need of a second back in terms of ability to get to the post season.
The best place... outside of NE?
Why did he force his own release to go take on the same role in a different city, with a much lower likelihood of going to the superbowl?
There must have been something going on up there in NE. Bellicheck seems like a real Ahole...
Probably new that Maroney was going to be featured, they have Faulk as the third down guy, and they will probably draft a guy in the later rounds to be a goal line/backup kind of deal. He touches were going to drop of to nothing.
Here, he'll probably get 8-15 touches a game, a lot of near the goal line, and is basically backing up a small, much more fragile RB in Westy. There is a decent shot that Dillon, if he came here, would at least start a few games this season. Forgot about Sammy Morris. He probably new they were going younger in FA as well, and asked to be let go.
Quote from: methdeez on March 08, 2007, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: PPinDC on March 08, 2007, 08:24:09 PM
Schefter mentioned that Dillon wants to go to a team like Philly, becuase it is the best place left in need of a second back in terms of ability to get to the post season.
The best place... outside of NE?
Why did he force his own release to go take on the same role in a different city, with a much lower likelihood of going to the superbowl?
There must have been something going on up there in NE. Bellicheck seems like a real Ahole...
He wants to play for the pyrite standard
Schefter said on NFL-N that Droughns was probably going to sign with the Packers.
Droughns is farging garbage. Green Bay let Ahman Green walk and signed that piece of crap.
Hilarious.
Dillon didn't want to play for NE because he wanted more than 10-15 carries a game. He's not coming to the Eagles and play second string to Bwest.
can't see it happening either, but I'd love for him to come here. that's wishing the offensive goes run first. ain't happening. it's a shame this team is measured on pass or run, the later being a shoe in for success. but the coach refuses too and leaves me in a world of hate.
Arizona signed Terrence Holt...5-yr deal
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2007, 11:51:37 PM
Arizona signed Terrence Holt...5-yr deal
was he ever good? maybe they thought they were signing Torry
now he gets to cover him on deep passes
Seahawks going crazy again, just signed Deon Grant to the highest SB and 3rd-highest deal for a safety....6 yrs, $30M+, $11.1M SB
go to sleep Ed. We need u bright eye'd and bushy in tha monin :yay
QuoteEagles | James could re-sign
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:22:48 -0800
Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are presumably looking to sign a nickel corner, who could end up being unrestricted free-agent CB William James (Eagles), but it does not seem likely to be unrestricted free-agent CB Roderick Hood (Eagles).
Eagles | Eagles show interest in Fowler
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:15:53 -0800
John Nalbone, of the Trenton Times, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have expressed interest in restricted free-agent LB Ryan Fowler (Cowboys).
Eagles | Brown on tap to be No. 1 receiver
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:39:21 -0800
Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reporting for the Sporting News, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Reggie Brown could find himself as the team's No. 1 option in the passing game next season, at least that appears to be the team's plan.
Eagles | Eagles likely to use late draft pick on quarterback
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:27:22 -0800
Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the Philadelphia Eagles may use a second-day pick (fifth or sixth round) on a quarterback. Head coach Andy Reid likes grooming young quarterbacks, and it's likely he'll try again. Two possibilities are Brigham Young University QB John Beck and Stanford QB Trent Edwards
I like the idea of James coming back.
Eckel with some great reporting there. Phreak, hurry up and get your degree to replace Eckel's hack job he does every day
Fowler's visiting today according Bowen:
QuoteThe Birds signed wide receiver and kick returner Bethel Johnson to a 1-year contract yesterday, believed to be for the veteran minimum. Today, the Eagles acknowledged they are scheduled to entertain wideout Kevin Curtis. Sources close to the situation say linebacker Ryan Fowler was en route to Philadelphia last night, after visiting Tennessee yesterday, and will meet with the Eagles.
Link (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/16866323.htm)
eckel is writing that up in his sporting news column for people in butte and places like that who have no idea who reggie brown or the philadelphia eagles are
QuoteCurtis, 28, got a late start on his Utah State career after serving a 2-year Mormon mission in London. He is 2 years older than Stallworth, even though Stallworth has been in the NFL a year longer.
Wonderful
that probably cause he went on a mission while at utah st
i just heard on wip that curtis got the second highest wonderlic score in the history of the nfl
I heard that too, something like a 48. Supposedly he runs a 4.21 40, benched 225 20 times, and maxes at 385. Intelligent, workout warrior, Mormon.
Supposedly he runs a 4.21
bawhahaha
ummm....NO
QuoteHe went to Utah State. He ran a hand-timed 40-yard dash of 4.21 but a 4.43 at the Combine. At Utah State's on-campus workout, he posted times of 4.36, 4.39 and 4.34.
Pretty fast for a white boy
Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Curtis)
definitely a quick little bugger...but when youre talking sub 4.3 youre getting in legendary status deion and shtein
Jim Abbott hand timed me at 3.9 in the 40 yards dash.
QuoteFree-agent running back Corey Dillon was scheduled to visit the Bills today, before the team consummated a trade sending Willis McGahee to the Baltimore Ravens. But before he could take the trip, Dillon cancelled, thinking that Buffalo did not represent the right situation for him. Dillon is unwilling to go to a team he does not feel is on the cusp of a championship, and the Bills, in his eyes, do not qualify. Dillon, however, would welcome the chance to play for the Philadelphia Eagles or Tennessee Titans, where he could be a complementary back on what he believes is a surefire playoff contender.
Link (http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10048237)
i think curtis will be an eagle & i'm okay with him as the #2 behind reggie "the next chad johnson" brown.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2007, 09:08:20 AM
QuoteFree-agent running back Corey Dillon was scheduled to visit the Bills today, before the team consummated a trade sending Willis McGahee to the Baltimore Ravens. But before he could take the trip, Dillon cancelled, thinking that Buffalo did not represent the right situation for him. Dillon is unwilling to go to a team he does not feel is on the cusp of a championship, and the Bills, in his eyes, do not qualify. Dillon, however, would welcome the chance to play for the Philadelphia Eagles or Tennessee Titans, where he could be a complementary back on what he believes is a surefire playoff contender.
Link (http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10048237)
get that shtein done. now.
(http://www.bakerfamilychiropractic.com/images/dillon.jpg)
I know we've all got boners over Schefter mentioning Dillon could be interested in being here... but has there been anything that says the Eagles are interested in him?
Quote from: MURP on March 09, 2007, 09:05:04 AM
Jim Abbott hand timed me at 3.9 in the 40 yards dash.
Hell.
You're going to Hell, Murp.
:-D :-D
Quote from: hunt on March 08, 2007, 04:27:21 PM
forget about dillon...he wants more than the 8-10 carries he'd get in philly.
still
Quote from: MURP on March 09, 2007, 09:05:04 AM
Jim Abbott hand hook timed me at 3.9 in the 40 yards dash.
William James re-signed....1-yr deal
Good, it was stupid to let both Hood and James test the market. If james is healthy, hes better than hood imo
Excellent. :yay
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
William James re-signed....1-yr deal
me likey. lets hope he stays healthy
Good.
I prefer Stallworth, even on a 1yr deal, but I'd take Curtis as a plan B.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
William James re-signed....1-yr deal
Very nice. We couldn't afford to let both him and Hood go.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
William James re-signed....1-yr deal
I like the 4 CB's now if they can stay healthy. The one issue is the lack of raw speed - only Lito has that. It will mean the safeties have to stay very disciplined.
Oh, and PE.com officially announced the Ryan Fowler visit (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=66000).
White! Linebacker!
am i the only person who has literally never heard of ryan fowler
No, you're not.
Nope.
Dallas Morning News:
QuoteCowboys backup linebacker and special teams ace Ryan Fowler visited with Tennessee on Thursday and has a trip planned for Philadelphia, according to his agent Alan Herman.
Fowler, a restricted free agent, also has plans to visit a third unnamed team. He is seeking a three-year deal with the chance to start at middle linebacker.
With the Cowboys, Fowler played in goal-line situations. He had a team-leading 24 special teams tackles in 2006.
Dallas has the right of first refusal on any contract offer for a restricted free agent. But the Cowboys will not receive compensation for Fowler because he was an undrafted free agent when he originally signed with them.
Bye. Besides, if it's a minimal offer from the Eagles, Dallas would match it in an instant to keep him away from here....
The agent has two first names though. hmmmmmmm
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 11:39:45 AM
am i the only person who has literally never heard of ryan fowler
Well, you've heard of him now, right?!?!?!!? !
QuoteFowler could be looking for an opportunity where he could have a chance to start down the road.
Mother of Christ...
::)
LB trio of the future:
Fowler
Gaither
Gocong
GET YO POPCORN READY!
i was just looking at the cowboys depth chart and its alphabetically listed
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/CMLLLJDJJIJF/111204-simoneau.jpg)
Holla. :yay
I guess there will always be that little piece of silver lining when Stallworth inks elsewhere.
Fowler = Keith Adams
No thanks.
James > Hood
Good deal bringing him back.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2007, 11:55:08 AM
Fowler = Keith Adams
No.
(http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/504605.jpg) does not equal (http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/235011.jpg)
Actually, based on his measurements, it would appear Fowler = Jason Short, probably minus the mental imbalance.
I made the comparison because they were both ST LBs that came from Dallas.
why would you even entertain signing a restricted FA special teamer...if they are serious about this guy im pretty sure they think he can play LB for them
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 12:04:46 PM
why would you even entertain signing a restricted FA special teamer...if they are serious about this guy im pretty sure they think he can play LB for them
The fact that he's restricted only means that Dallas would have a chance to match the offer in this case. The cowboys would get no compensation were Dallas to not match an offer sheet, since Fowler was undrafted and was tendered at the low level.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 12:04:46 PM
why would you even entertain signing a restricted FA special teamer...if they are serious about this guy im pretty sure they think he can play LB for them
The problem is that they think anyone can play linebacker for them and year in and year out they are proven wrong. Yet they continue to try and plug anyone in there anyway. Brilliant!
that makes more sense...but still why even mess with a guy like that...a guy who wants to start and a guy who will not ask for starting money but will command more than special teams money i would think...actually i have no idea im totally talking out of my ass here...
is he that friggin good...just go out and sign ike reese for god sakes
The problem is that they think anyone can play linebacker for them and year in and year out they are proven wrong. Yet they continue to try and plug anyone in there anyway. Brilliant!
thats what im thinking...is he the next simenou?
Dom Rhodes to the Raiders. 2 years/7.5M.
The Giants are farged. ;D
Wonder if that means anything for LaMont Jordon? He was pretty good for them in 2005 but not so much last year. Then again, the entire offense was a joke out there in Oakland. Or, should I say Jokeland?
you should not
Jokeland Jokeland Jokeland Jokeland Jokeland
First decent news of the offseason is getting a nickelback.
Terrific.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 12:16:08 PM
...actually i have no idea im totally talking out of my ass here...
Quote of the year.
...and goes without saying.
my cheering section!
thanks kids
Before he signs anywhere...how much longer does Dillon have in your opinions and has he lost anything...at least since 2004 (besides aging 3 years).
He's 32 which is old for a RB, so he's lost a little. Still, as a 8-10 carries per game type back he'll be fine for 2-3 years. He's the same size as Buck but better.
For some reason, Buck looked smaller this season. I had no confidence in him when he hit the line.
Linguini ligaments have a slimming effect.
i cant stomach dillon so id rather have brown or someone younger...its not as tho the eagles are corey dillon away from the superbowl
i tend to shy away from guys who only want to go to a winner....thats usually someone whos gonna be a huge pain in the ass when you start losing
Based on lack of highlights and lack of research and understanding, my feeling is that Brown has been mediocre at best during his career other than that one year (rookie year?).
I never liked Brown, he runs too high. Dillon would be a perfect fit for this offense (in my own opinion).
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 01:58:25 PM
thats usually someone whos gonna be a huge pain in the ass when you start losing
...which Dillon apparently was during his time in Cincy...
brown has always been good...staying healthy is his problem and one of the reasons he doesnt stay healthy is because of his upright running style that sd mentioned
id still rather have him over dillon...we are talking about a back running back here...whoever it is will have little effect on the win loss record of the team and in that case id rather not have a fleshpophead like dillon
but between dillon and brown...who has the best chance of converting a....let's say......a 2nd and 1...or lets just get crazy and say 3rd and 1?
a sideline route to baskett
A pass in the flat to Tapeh
Sorry, Tapeh is the correct answer. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
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:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
:-D :-D :-D
:-\
what you want to look for in a running back is good tossback ability for when Marty runs the flea-flicker every game
Quote from: SunMo on March 09, 2007, 02:14:25 PM
what you want to look for in a running back is good tossback ability for when Marty runs the flea-flicker every game
Agreed. Buckhalter often tossed too high.
I'm listening to this Kevin Curtis "press conference", and he's claiming his first priorities are to win and to start. Not money? Really? Shocking! ! Mormon. Stab.
toss the salad flick the balls
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
toss the salad flick the balls
I wonder if Andy mentioned to him that Garrett could hook him up with some choice brown sugar or Britt with an unregistered Glock. Philly's now the veritable hookup for Mormons looking to branch out into drugs and guns.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 02:21:05 PMPhilly's now the veritable hookup for Mormons looking to branch out into drugs and guns.
Boondock Saints III
Curtis's Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Curtis)
TRIVIA!
QuoteHe scored a 48 out of a possible 50 points on the Wonderlic intelligence test administered to all prospective rookies at the NFL combine.
He played football at Snow Junior College in Utah and was rejected by BYU football team before making the Utah State Football team.
He served a two year Mormon mission in London, England.
He ran the 40 yard dash in 4.43 secs.
ha, his two year Mormon mission in London? that's weak.
is the Wonderlic available online somewhere. I'd think that would be fun.
He also complained of having no blood left after visiting 4 teams in a few days.
I guess they all want to make sure he doesn't have the ninja.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
I guess they all want to make sure he doesn't have the ninja.
That sounds extremely hilarious, but alas, I don't know what the farg it is. Enlighten me funny one. :paranoid
Quote from: hbionic on March 09, 2007, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
I guess they all want to make sure he doesn't have the ninja.
That sounds extremely hilarious, but alas, I don't know what the farg it is. Enlighten me funny one. :paranoid
Definition 23 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ninja&page=4)
Big big news outta the eagles camp...
RB Reno Mahe Knowledgeable all-around player. Nothing flashy, just solid. No word on whether other teams are interested.
... we still got a chance boys!
eskin:
"a little more than a 50/50 chance donte signs with the eagles"
"by tuesday they will have a WR signed" and that will be their wr corps for the 07
in the next week they will have a rb in the fold
andy is back in the office
Reuben Droughns to the Giants for Tim Carter.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 09, 2007, 03:14:43 PM
Reuben Droughns to the Giants for Tim Carter.
Link?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
"a little more than a 50/50 chance donte signs with the eagles"
Did he give any supposed basis for that comment?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
"by tuesday they will have a WR signed" and that will be their wr corps for the 07
Common sense, based on the timeframe of both Stallworth and Curtis...
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
in the next week they will have a rb in the fold
Again, basically common sense - it will probably be Buckhalter.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
andy is back in the office
We knew that.
Scintillating info from Howard.
Exit Tiki Barber, enter Reuben Droughns.
That loud sound you just heard was Blue Heart shooting herself in the head.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: hbionic on March 09, 2007, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
I guess they all want to make sure he doesn't have the ninja.
That sounds extremely hilarious, but alas, I don't know what the farg it is. Enlighten me funny one. :paranoid
Definition 23 (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ninja&page=4)
Ninja, please. That shtein is whack.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
"a little more than a 50/50 chance donte signs with the eagles"
Did he give any supposed basis for that comment?
He read my thoughts (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19194.msg505506#msg505506) on the whole deal from last night, and knew I was probably right. My unfounded scenario made it 50-50 before all the crap today came out.
Droughns for Carter is a good trade for the Giants. I still say Jacobs is a scrub.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2007, 03:36:12 PM
I still say Jacobs is a scrub.
Still, the Eagles passed on him to draft Moats, because they wanted to get a "Westbrook clone" to scare Brian into re-signing with the team.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2007, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 09, 2007, 03:36:12 PM
I still say Jacobs is a scrub.
Still, the Eagles passed on him to draft Moats, because they wanted to get a "Westbrook clone" to scare Brian into re-signing with the team.
Ding.
844 career rushing attempts for Droughns. How many touchdowns? 13.
Great trade, Giants. And I mean that will all love and sincerity.
:yay
Did he give any supposed basis for that comment?
he was down at novacare today it was 'from the information he gathered"
where did it say that today was andys first day back?...i never saw that
Again, basically common sense - it will probably be Buckhalter.
no they are gonna sign someone new he said...and why is it common sense that this will happen in the next week....there is absolutely no rush to get a back up rb in
again its eskin...but if nothing else he is worshipped by the eagle front office so if they are gonna toss nuggets to anyone its gonna be him
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/JCBKHBLHMDMK/curtis-hp-030907.jpg)
Spadaro sighting!
Droughns link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2793305)
No McGahee.
No Rhodes.
Ruben Droughns. Cool. :yay
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 09, 2007, 03:33:44 PM
Exit Tiki Barber, enter Reuben Droughns.
That loud sound you just heard was Blue Heart shooting herself in the head.
Nah- you guys aren't getting rid of me that easily... sorry.
Granted Droughns wasn't exactly on my shopping list, but, I'm not distressed over him being signed at all. No secret I was hoping, foolishly, we would open our wallets for Rhodes (would be nice to have a drinking buddy at camp), but, who really thought that would happen?
I think the trade was a good move for us. Didn't cost us more than a WR who never reached his potential with us and really never had a place. I wish Carter well with the Browns.
Droughns may not be the TD guy, but, I think he'll service us well as a relief for Jacobs. Or, if need be, he gets yards and Jacobs gets TDs. Been there already and it worked out ok. LOL
Schefter again:
The Eagles made an offer to Colts S Mike Doss and he didn't accept it. Andy Reid called him personally and said he wants him. The two sides hope to work something out... :yay
That would be a nice signing if he's healthy. Look at Andy going after the bad character guy. Shoot em UP
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2007, 07:20:32 PM
Schefter again:
The Eagles made an offer to Colts S Mike Doss and he didn't accept it. Andy Reid called him personally and said he wants him. The two sides hope to work something out... :yay
That would be nuyce...
Doss hasn't even turned 26 yet.
I liked the part about A.R. calling him personally to get the deal done.
Dook hits like a fricken runaway freight train... get it done Birds. Now!
At least they understand that Considine blows.
maybe Andy's trying to sell Britts guns
when the hell did JR Reed sign with the Falcons?
btw, his website is the most ridiculous thing ive ever seen...
http://www.jr-reed.com/ (http://www.jr-reed.com/)
Way ridiculous.
"HE'S HERE!"
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2007, 07:20:32 PM
Schefter again:
The Eagles made an offer to Colts S Mike Doss and he didn't accept it. Andy Reid called him personally and said he wants him. The two sides hope to work something out... :yay
I wonder if they're going to actually try to bring him in for a visit, or just make the offer remotely.
BTW, isn't Doss one of those hard hitters that doesn't really cover well? (a la Mike Lewis...?)
yes he is ff...but you know the grass is always greener on the other side...hes another lewis clone and hes coming off a torn up knee...eagles are obviously trying to get a good player on the cheap
its more clear than ever that lewis got the boot because of money and not that he couldnt cover...which is fine if you didnt wanna pay mike but dont do what you did to him and then go out and get an identical player
Doss went to Ohio State and is coming off a torn-up knee.
Damon Moore II?
Doss is a much better cover guy than Lewis, he's also a better safety.
Was reading his bio on Wikpedia, check this little blurb out at the end:
QuoteIt has been recently reported that Doss is close to a deal with the Philadelphia Eagles
actually id say doss is a better hitter and run defender than lewis...they are pretty much the same player overall tho...in fact ironically much like lewis even before doss' knee injury last year he lost his starting job to a rookie due to his lack of coverage skills
yet for some reason there will be a GET DOSS/LEWIS SUCKS crowd
I don't know much about Doss, but I do know that he was a decent player before his injury. So I'm going to go off what seems to be the general consensus here in regards to his coverage skills which seem to be on par with Lewis. And we're talking about before his injury which means he very well may not be quite the same player he was before. I doubt it, because ACL tears are easily repaired today but it's still a possibility that his coverage skills will be less than they were before.Â
In any case, I'll be very interested to see what kind of money they offer him vs the amount they offered Lewis.Â
i would venture to say that the eagles think pre injury doss and lewis are equal in playing ability but with doss having been on the market without much serious interest and coming off an injury the eagles are trying to get him on the cheap...which is admirable...all im saying is dont expect an upgrade and it might be a downgrade by bringing doss in the fold
for record i like both lewis and doss and would take either on my team
And that's fine if they can get him on the cheap, but do you think the FO thought that he would go this long without any offers? Do you think he was someone they had targeted as a possible replacement for Lewis or would you say that it's something that has been a recent development because of the lack of interest he's been getting?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 10, 2007, 09:05:52 AM
Doss is a much better cover guy than Lewis, he's also a better safety.
Was reading his bio on Wikpedia, check this little blurb out at the end:
QuoteIt has been recently reported that Doss is close to a deal with the Philadelphia Eagles
Other Wikipedia contributions from the same person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.121.221.166)
Looks like they're in NY (Dio?):
QuoteNEW YORK BRONX OPTIMUM ONLINE (CABLEVISION SYSTEMS)
William James:
Quote"I feel like when I'm focused there's nobody better than me in the NFL."
I hope he's better than Blaine Bishop.
Stallworth.
Rich Miano > Blaine Bishop
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2007, 09:14:18 AM
yet for some reason there will be a GET DOSS/LEWIS SUCKS crowd
I like both players. I like Doss more, but I dont know as much about him. Lewis is one of the best safety run defenders in the league. His coverage skills arent as bad as people make it seem, but he has really bad instincts. I've never seen a guy try to jump an in route when the WR was
15 yards in front of him only to allow a TD deep because of it.
QuoteEagles | Team offers Fowler a contract
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:45:09 -0800
Calvin Watkins, of The Dallas Morning News, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have made a contract offer to restricted free-agent LB Ryan Fowler (Cowboys).
It must have been a great deal if they couldn't even get him to sign the offer sheet, considering he's an undrafted special teams white boy linebacker that's been quite vocal about not wanting to play in Dallas any longer.
Donnie Edwards signs with Chiefs for 3 years 13.5 and 7.5 SB.
Rod Hood signs with Arizons for 5 year deal.
Just came here to post that about Hood.
F'n pisses me off. Another one to scratch off my shopping list... and not in a good way.
F'n Giants. **shakes fist**
Link (http://www.thereporteronline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18064589&BRD=2275&PAG=461&dept_id=466403&rfi=6)
Quote
Free agency brought three visitors to town Friday.
One was unrestricted free agent Kevin Curtis, a career No. 3 wide receiver at St. Louis fast becoming Plan B for the Eagles. Curtis might be one Donte' Stallworth out-of-state press conference from occupying the team payroll.
Two was restricted free agent Ryan Fowler, a product of Duke by way of the Dallas Cowboys who at 6-3 and 250-pounds could be the successor to veteran middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter.
Three? That would be head coach Andy Reid, who interrupted a leave of absence to meet with the guests, the first outsiders to visit the organization in free agency. Reid made instant – and it appears – lasting impressions. It can't hurt recruiting and may be a sign he's working through the deep legal and personal issues that soon will determine the futures of his 23 and 21-year-old sons.
I'm sick of the Eagles FO, but I can't fault them for Edwards. He really badly according to Schefter wanted to go back to KC to finish his career. Unless we significantly beat their offer, then he wouldn't have came here, and at 34, you can't beat that offer by much without being stupid.
Still... they better go OLB in the first round. No excuses.
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 03:58:58 PM
Still... they better go OLB in the first round. No excuses.
Never happen. Sad as it is to say I almost wouldn't be surprised if they went for a lineman.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 10, 2007, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 03:58:58 PM
Still... they better go OLB in the first round. No excuses.
Never happen. Sad as it is to say I almost wouldn't be surprised if they went for a lineman.
Get Okoye.
Quote from: TexasEagle on March 10, 2007, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 03:58:58 PM
Still... they better go OLB in the first round. No excuses.
Never happen. Sad as it is to say I almost wouldn't be surprised if they went for a lineman.
They can't avoid it forever. Look at it this way. If we get to 26 and Posluszny is still on the board and no safeties or corners they like are available, do you really think they'd reach simply because they don't value linebackers? They aren't that stupid. Anyone can see their weaknesses.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 10, 2007, 03:58:23 PM
Link (http://www.thereporteronline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18064589&BRD=2275&PAG=461&dept_id=466403&rfi=6)
Quote
Free agency brought three visitors to town Friday.
One was unrestricted free agent Kevin Curtis, a career No. 3 wide receiver at St. Louis fast becoming Plan B for the Eagles. Curtis might be one Donte' Stallworth out-of-state press conference from occupying the team payroll.
Two was restricted free agent Ryan Fowler, a product of Duke by way of the Dallas Cowboys who at 6-3 and 250-pounds could be the successor to veteran middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter.
Three? That would be head coach Andy Reid, who interrupted a leave of absence to meet with the guests, the first outsiders to visit the organization in free agency. Reid made instant – and it appears – lasting impressions. It can't hurt recruiting and may be a sign he's working through the deep legal and personal issues that soon will determine the futures of his 23 and 21-year-old sons.
we are looking at fowler as a starter over trotter?
get spikes?
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 03:52:10 PM
Just came here to post that about Hood.
F'n pisses me off. Another one to scratch off my shopping list... and not in a good way.
F'n Giants. **shakes fist**
Corey Webster. Starter.
The rich get richer:
QuoteColts | Team signs Labinjo
Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:57:52 -0800
Tom James, of the Tribune-Star, reports the Indianapolis Colts have signed LB Mike Labinjo. No terms of the deal have been disclosed.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2007, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 03:52:10 PM
Just came here to post that about Hood.
F'n pisses me off. Another one to scratch off my shopping list... and not in a good way.
F'n Giants. **shakes fist**
Corey Webster. Starter.
Yea, I saw Vacchiano's blurb posted on KFFL, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Wbster isn't exactly one of Coughlin's favorites...
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 04:07:16 PM
They can't avoid it forever. Look at it this way. If we get to 26 and Posluszny is still on the board and no safeties or corners they like are available, do you really think they'd reach simply because they don't value linebackers? They aren't that stupid. Anyone can see their weaknesses.
OLB is actually a position that they have really good reasoning to not spend a first rounder on one. I still wouldn't take Posluszny in the first.
So you're ok withGocong starting at a position the guy has never played in his life?
I'm not saying Pos would be a better SAM than WILL, but still. I don't trust Gocong starting at SAM. He's never played the position before. He may have talent, but I'd rather go into the season with a more proven player. Pos might be the safest pick in the entire draft.
Slower Matt McCoy with better leadership skills at SLB = :-D
That theory is a joke dude. No one in the draft is proven. They've proven that they're good players in college. I'm completely fine with Gocong at SLB. Unless they can get someone who was a stud SLB in college and has the tools to be (where the only person possible is Lawrence Timmons), Gocong is easily the best bet.
No one is proven, but at least these players have been productive LBs in college. Gocong was a good DE in college, not a LB. Could he become a good LB in the NFL? Sure, but it is a much bigger risk than drafting a player who has played it their entire college career. Gocong is still learning the position and didn't even get in a preseason game last year. If you want to go with Gocong then at least have a plan b at that position.
And that's fine if they can get him on the cheap, but do you think the FO thought that he would go this long without any offers? Do you think he was someone they had targeted as a possible replacement for Lewis or would you say that it's something that has been a recent development because of the lack of interest he's been getting?
thats a good question...my guess would be that the eagles ranked the UFA's this year from best to worst...then let everyone hit the market and waited to see who was left over...then they go after people they thought would be good value signings...if doss is healthy hes falls under that category...at the same time if no safetys were out there right now that peeked their interest they will just go with considine
if the eagles dont sign someone right out the gate then i dont think they are targeting them
so imo if they sign doss he 'fell to them' as opposed to them targeting him
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2007, 06:20:19 PM
if the eagles dont sign someone right out the gate then i dont think they are targeting them
so imo if they sign doss he 'fell to them' as opposed to them targeting him
Agreed. If they really were interested in him, they would have signed him and maybe overpaid a bit before the market was set.
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Yea, I saw Vacchiano's blurb posted on KFFL, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Wbster isn't exactly one of Coughlin's favorites...
It's not as funny as William James (nee Peterson) thinking he's as good as any CB in the NFL.
Gentlemen it would appear the Eagles FO are sitting on their hands and doing nothing.
There's a lot of subtraction on this team and nothing being done to replace the talent.
Very frustrating!
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2007, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Yea, I saw Vacchiano's blurb posted on KFFL, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Wbster isn't exactly one of Coughlin's favorites...
It's not as funny as William James (nee Peterson) thinking he's as good as any CB in the NFL.
Would you prefer a player with no confidence in himself and thinks he sucks?
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2007, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Yea, I saw Vacchiano's blurb posted on KFFL, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Wbster isn't exactly one of Coughlin's favorites...
It's not as funny as William James (nee Peterson) thinking he's as good as any CB in the NFL.
Would you prefer a player with no confidence in himself and thinks he sucks?
No, we really can't use Mike Rumph.
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 06:09:57 PM
No one is proven, but at least these players have been productive LBs in college. Gocong was a good DE in college, not a LB. Could he become a good LB in the NFL? Sure, but it is a much bigger risk than drafting a player who has played it their entire college career. Gocong is still learning the position and didn't even get in a preseason game last year. If you want to go with Gocong then at least have a plan b at that position.
Jesus, Gocong was a "good" DE at a shtein wipe school, probably for a reason. Trusting he's the answer at a new position, because you know, he showed so much on IR, makes my eyes bleed. I need to punch something.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 10, 2007, 07:21:19 PM
Jesus, Gocong was a "good" DE at a shtein wipe school, probably for a reason. Trusting he's the answer at a new position, because you know, he showed so much on IR, makes my eyes bleed. I need to punch something.
If by "good" you mean one of the best defensive players in D-1AA history, then yeah. Obviously, going to a D-1AA school is something to hold against him because Dexter Coakley, Ed Hartwell, Rashean Mathis, Jared Allen and Jordan Beck all suck in the NFL.
The
ONLY thing you can hold against Gocong is that he's at a new position. He probably has all the plays down now. He has all the athletic ability in the world. What's going to stop him from being a good player? I'm not saying he's going to be a Pro Bowler, but to think that Posluszny is a better option is ridiculous.
Quote from: 4and26 on March 10, 2007, 07:04:31 PM
Gentlemen it would appear the Eagles FO are sitting on their hands and doing nothing.
There's a lot of subtraction on this team and nothing being done to replace the talent.
Very frustrating!
I agree completely
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 10, 2007, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 10, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
Yea, I saw Vacchiano's blurb posted on KFFL, but, I'll believe it when I see it. Wbster isn't exactly one of Coughlin's favorites...
It's not as funny as William James (nee Peterson) thinking he's as good as any CB in the NFL.
Would you prefer a player with no confidence in himself and thinks he sucks?
Look, I understand you miss Willie P and all, but him thinking he's *the best* is overkill.
Quote from: Dillen on March 10, 2007, 07:32:23 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on March 10, 2007, 07:21:19 PM
Jesus, Gocong was a "good" DE at a shtein wipe school, probably for a reason. Trusting he's the answer at a new position, because you know, he showed so much on IR, makes my eyes bleed. I need to punch something.
If by "good" you mean one of the best defensive players in D-1AA history, then yeah. Obviously, going to a D-1AA school is something to hold against him because Dexter Coakley, Ed Hartwell, Rashean Mathis, Jared Allen and Jordan Beck all suck in the NFL.
The ONLY thing you can hold against Gocong is that he's at a new position. He probably has all the plays down now. He has all the athletic ability in the world. What's going to stop him from being a good player? I'm not saying he's going to be a Pro Bowler, but to think that Posluszny is a better option is ridiculous.
Pos would probably play weakside here anyway, and after a full year to recover his knee he will be even better. I don't know what you don't like about him, but he is a stud.
I'd rather not draft a WLB considering we've already got the "bright spot" of LB's there in Gaither. If they were to draft a WLB, it woild mean they mean to move Gaither inside or strong side, which he isn't equipped to do. Worry about finding Trotters' replacement and a SLB first, then see what pans out at WLB.
I think Gaither could play SAM fine.
Quote from: King Cole on March 10, 2007, 08:47:51 PM
Pos would probably play weakside here anyway, and after a full year to recover his knee he will be even better. I don't know what you don't like about him, but he is a stud.
The Eagles LBs currently suck. The best LBs last year were Matt McCoy and Omar Gaither. They both play WLB. Why would you take another WLB, where that is likely your best LB position?
i dont know if its possible and if gaither has a body that can take on more weight but were he a little heavier i think he could be an excellent mlb
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2007, 12:11:41 PM
i dont know if its possible and if gaither has a body that can take on more weight but were he a little heavier i think he could be an excellent mlb
Yes. He could definitely play MLB. Probably a little short to play SAM in the Eagles' system... but I'd rather have 3 Gaithers at LB than 3 Dhani's. A playmaker is a playmaker, and a bum is a bum. We put a lot of emphasis on the SAM vs. MIKE vs. WIL crap, but it really comes down to if a guy has the instincts and skills to make a lot of tackles and the occasional game-changing play (INT, big sack, forced fumble). I don't care if they play a couple of guys out of position at linebacker, as long as the guys in there can make some damn plays.
Dhani Jones is a worthless piece of shtein and I am sick of worthless pieces of shtein starting the Eagles because they refuse to address the positions in the offseason.
im probably being picky here but id like my outside backers to be a little more athletic...when you look at the other personel the team has at lb gaither at wil is good but is he good enough?
he doesnt have that explosiveness i like at the outside lb spots...thats why i think he would be a real good middle guy (were he bigger)
Hood's deal with Arizona was for $15M.
Cory Schlesinger to the Dolphins....2-yr deal
That Fowler guy signed an offer with the Eagles. The Cowboys have 7 days to match (no compensation).
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 11, 2007, 02:20:48 PM
Cory Schlesinger to the Dolphins....2-yr deal
That Fowler guy signed an offer with the Eagles. The Cowboys have 7 days to match (no compensation).
what do we know about Fowler? I remember he was a hell of a special teams player.
He's a career special teamer with delusions about starting some day.
Guess who?
QuoteI'm sick of your whining ... The Eagles offense is going to be outstanding and you know it.
QuoteHow many times do I have to explain this ... the Eagles have a great young core signed for many, many years. By signing these young players, they have secured the talents for years. The Eagles don't need to do out and overspend for FA talent. You know the philosophy. Stop your whining. Such a bunch of give-up fans.
QuoteFirst, let me tell that you what I say here is from my perspective. Don't characterize them as "lies" or I will end this forum in one minute. I working my a** off to be here so I don't need to be ridiculed.
That said, I'm totally speechless. If the report is true on the contract, I'm speechless. I can only think that Stallworth spurned the Eagles' offer to sign in New England. The explanation would have to come from Stallworth.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 11, 2007, 03:04:47 PM
Guess who?
QuoteI'm sick of your whining ... The Eagles offense is going to be outstanding and you know it.
QuoteHow many times do I have to explain this ... the Eagles have a great young core signed for many, many years. By signing these young players, they have secured the talents for years. The Eagles don't need to do out and overspend for FA talent. You know the philosophy. Stop your whining. Such a bunch of give-up fans.
QuoteFirst, let me tell that you what I say here is from my perspective. Don't characterize them as "lies" or I will end this forum in one minute. I working my a** off to be here so I don't need to be ridiculed.
That said, I'm totally speechless. If the report is true on the contract, I'm speechless. I can only think that Stallworth spurned the Eagles' offer to sign in New England. The explanation would have to come from Stallworth.
Art's become an Eagles fan?
On Matt Schobel's neck is not a head... but rather... ANOTHER PENIS!
(ref: mussa?)
Mike Doss called into WIP about 40 minutes ago with Rob Charry and Hugh Douglas...
-- Wants to play with Dawkins, loves how Dawkins plays
-- Wants to get back into a system where he can blitz, do man-to-man, fly around and be a playmaker unlike the Cover 2 in Indy...thinks he'd be a great fit here
-- Loves the Philly atmosphere and fan support and the whole "Rocky" thing....says he's been watching "Invincible"
-- Visited Tampa Bay and was frustrated with the physical they gave. Also received a few calls from other teams showing a little interest.
-- Has been through an aggressive rehab the last 4 months to show teams that he can still play, and he worked out at the Ohio State pro day recently to go through the same drills
-- Sitting back and letting his agent (Tom Condon) negotiate a fair deal for both sides but wants it to be with the Eagles
-- When asked about being allowed to travel to the Super Bowl, citing Andy Reid's policy on IR players not travelling, said he was allowed to go and take pictures and participate but he wasn't allowed on the field
-- Says he's won titles at every level he's played (McKinley High School, Ohio State, Indianapolis)
-- Says he's currently working to finish up his undergrad degree at Ohio State, has a final and a couple of classes left that he hopes to finish this summer
Rod Hood is expected to call in within the next hour...
Les Bowen:
QuoteThe Eagles have signed Cowboys linebacker Ryan Fowler to a restricted free agent offer sheet, Fowler's agent, Alan Herman, told the Daily News today.
Herman said Fowler stands to make $4 million in the first season of the 4-year deal, which he said would ultimately pay about $10.5 million. Since Fowler is stuck behind middle linebacker Bradie James in Dallas, Herman said he doubts the Cowboys will match the offer.
:-D
unbelievable
What the farg? Unfargingreal.
The mind numbing stupidity of this team's FO has reached a level so absurd it's beyond all levels of human comprehension. All that money for a Special Teamer while Stallworth walks for peanuts. farging awesome.
STAB MURDER BANG BANG KICK NUTS DEATH
I hope the Cowboys match
You do realize the Cowboys matching does nothing, right? If the Eagles lose out on who they want they don't go to plan b. They just move on with what they have. So if we don't get Fowler, then it is Dhani Jones and Gocong.
You expect Fowler to come in and contribute to the LBs? I don't, I expect to see him as a solid ST player. That's it.
The Eagles obviously see him as a starter down the road.
Fowler isn't even an upgrade over the stiffs on this farging team. What the farg is going on here?
For his career he has zero sacks, zero INTs and 2 forced fumbles. PLAYMAKER! farg.
It is them trying to act like they know more than everyone again. Just like with Simoneau.
Rod Hood was on WIP a few minutes ago...
-- Liked the Cardinals and Saints visits but thought he'd get more playing time in Arizona...likes Whisenhunt, Leinart and Edge and sees improvement with the OL and DL, so he wanted to be a part of the Cardinals as they got better.
-- Says he's penciled in as a starter but will battle in training camp.
-- Thinks his injuries contributed to him not being re-signed by the Eagles...thinks it's the same reason why Stallworth wasn't re-signed.
-- Says the Eagles did make an offer but he didn't want to be a nickelback anymore....wanted more playing time.
-- He and a few other players on the defense think Michael Lewis was made a scapegoat for the defensive problems.
Quote from: King Cole on March 11, 2007, 05:53:34 PM
It is them trying to act like they know more than everyone again. Just like with Simoneau.
Simoneau was a key piece of the deal to get Stallworth. Clearly, the Eagles are planning to build up Fowler's value just enough so that they can trade him for help at WR.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 11, 2007, 05:14:11 PM
Les Bowen:
QuoteThe Eagles have signed Cowboys linebacker Ryan Fowler to a restricted free agent offer sheet, Fowler's agent, Alan Herman, told the Daily News today.
Herman said Fowler stands to make $4 million in the first season of the 4-year deal, which he said would ultimately pay about $10.5 million. Since Fowler is stuck behind middle linebacker Bradie James in Dallas, Herman said he doubts the Cowboys will match the offer.
:-D
So he stands to make $400,000 more than Stallworth does this year?
Makes sense.
There wasn't enough cap space for Stallworth.
Now we know why.
So much for being smart with money.
PE.com is now confirming the signed offer
:-D What a bunch of fargtards for believing the fans are idiots. 610 is going to be insane tomorrow.
Fowler reactions from Cowboys board (http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx%20112#S=112&F=1786&T=232428)
More reaction (http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/thread/444634.aspx)
610 is going to be insane tomorrow
cant wait to hear eskins spin...forever he said stallworth wants to much money but that if by chance he leaves for a reasonable contract then hell question the front office...his show is gonna be chaos tomorrow
his show is gonna be chaos tomorrow
As it should be. :-D
Fowler reactions from Cowboys board
More reaction
fwiw when i hit this link it farged up my computer
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 11, 2007, 07:25:15 PM
Fowler reactions from Cowboys board (http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx%20112#S=112&F=1786&T=232428)
More reaction (http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/thread/444634.aspx)
QuoteHe would have struggeld to make this roster with a new coach and some new LB's from the draft. He has the oppourtunity to be a starter on a team with horrible linebackers.
Quote
4 million??? That's insane and plain stupid, guess they are gonna start em with that kind of coin!]
QuoteWord on the Philly board is that Fowler will be paid 4 million this year and that its a 4 year 10.5 million dollar deal. Makes me wonder why Philly is willing to pay Fowler more this year than New England is paying to Stallworth ( 3.6 million ). I dont see us matching this offer to Fowler and i think we can fill his loss by either signing a veteran like Randall Godfrety to a short term deal or a rookie on day two of the draft like Zac Deossie ( son of former cowboys LB Steve Deossie ).
Quote
If the 10.5million/4 years is true, they can have him! WTF are they doing giving Fowler 4 million dollars in their first year. That's crazy...
QuoteIf he does start for Philly, that could be good news for us. Just do a playaction all day, and we'll catch fowler out of position 90% of the time!!
Reid again taking a big chance. If this guy doesn't end up starting and making some sort of impact, how do you justify that kind of money after letting Stallworth walk? Wait, I know, he's a great person and hard worker, and Reids great coaching and J.J.'s defense will make him a pro-bowler......yeah. I know he's pretty big at 6'3" and 250, but from reading about him more it seems like he's a slow Trotter. Out of position a lot. But still, if he can stuff the run he might help.
After putting down 10 mil for this guy, forget drafting any kind of linebacker like Lawrence Timmons or Patrick Willis. Probably wasn't going to happen anyway, but there was still hope.
More gems from the PR machine:
QuoteYou are comparing the Eagles to Detroit. Is that valid? Are you threatening? Exactly what have the Eagles done wrong, other than not win a Super Bowl?
Wowzers.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 11, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
More gems from the PR machine:
QuoteYou are comparing the Eagles to Detroit. Is that valid? Are you threatening? Exactly what have the Eagles done wrong, other than not win a Super Bowl?
Wowzers.
Well, you can start off with employing the biggest dumbass in the Philadelphia media. Drafting 6 years worth of busts at wide reciever. Not being able to put any decent linebackers on the field for 6 years except Trotter and he's more or less done. Terrible, terrible clock managment and game day coaching.
I could think of more but I'm done typing.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 11, 2007, 05:59:40 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 11, 2007, 05:53:34 PM
It is them trying to act like they know more than everyone again. Just like with Simoneau.
Simoneau was a key piece of the deal to get Stallworth. Clearly, the Eagles are planning to build up Fowler's value just enough so that they can trade him for help at WR in three years.
Fixed
Probably how it goes down in Banner's office (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&l=uk&code=99aa7105762264b8bc65321ccea109c7)
I could understand the contract if he had a real shot at a starting job, but not with Trotter around.
he does have a shot at a starting job...thats how bad the eagle linebackers are that ryan fowler has a chance to beat out the eagles best LB
admittedly i had never heard of ryan fowler so i wont/cant comment on his play but if hes getting anywhere near the reported money he is here to win the mlb job
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 12, 2007, 06:21:02 AM
admittedly i had never heard of ryan fowler so i wont/cant comment on his play but if hes getting anywhere near the reported money he is here to win the mlb job
Apparently, SAM is a possibility too... although if he can't cover fullbacks, I doubt he can man up on Shockey or Witten.
Quote from: hbionic on March 12, 2007, 04:40:14 AM
Probably how it goes down in Banner's office (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&l=uk&code=99aa7105762264b8bc65321ccea109c7)
ha.
At the end of Les Bowen's article today:
QuoteEagles sources say that contrary to reports, the Birds have no interest in safety Mike Doss, a Colts free agent.
This has no real bearing, but didn't Doss get arrested for waiving or firing a gun in the street some time back?
They'll take no player that wants to be a part of their team? Who the farg put Groucho Marx in charge?
Quote from: General_Failure on March 12, 2007, 09:35:22 AM
They'll take no player that wants to be a part of their team? Who the farg put Groucho Marx in charge?
(http://www.voicechoice.com/images/3stooges.jpg)
Lurie, Reid, and Banner
excerpt from Paul Domowich article on "Is this team good enough for them to be able to make a Super Bowl run in '07?"
QuoteIt is, if Donovan McNabb comes back healthy and stays that way.
It is, if the Eagles find a way to replace the outside speed they're losing with Stallworth's departure.
It is, if Brodrick Bunkley ever wakes up and realizes he's not in Tallahassee anymore, Toto.
It is, if the Eagles weren't kidding themselves in thinking Chris Gocong actually can make the significant leap from pass-rushing college defensive end to NFL strongside linebacker.
It is, if a lighter Jeremiah Trotter can give the Eagles more production in fewer snaps.
It is, if 33-year-old Brian Dawkins has one more Pro Bowl-caliber season in him.
It is, if Sean Considine can add 10 pounds of muscle to his frame and become a better run defender.
It is, if Jevon Kearse becomes a dominant pass rusher again and Darren Howard can be a lot more productive than he was last season.
And it is, if recently re-signed Will James stays healthy and gives the Eagles a corner with some size to match up against the Plaxico Burresses and Terrell Owenses of the world.
Boy, that's a lot of ifs.
plus this line: But hey, aren't you starting to get really, really psyched for that training-camp kick-return battle between Bethel Johnson and Jeremy Bloom?
I think I'm gonna have to do a LOT of extra drinking this year.
I love how all this garbage is going down the week we have to submit half of the season ticket money.
Quote from: SunMo on March 12, 2007, 10:09:53 AM
I love how all this garbage is going down the week we have to submit half of the season ticket money.
You don't HAVE to do anything.
except die and pay taxes LOLOLOLOL
Quote from: SunMo on March 12, 2007, 10:09:53 AM
I love how all this garbage is going down the week we have to submit half of the season ticket money.
I haven't paid yet. I usually pay the invoice as soon as it arrives but I decided to wait to the last minute this year.
Not a protest or anything. I just don't feel like coughing up $755 early for tickets I won't see for six months.
Why are they denying offers to Doss?
It's their new FA plan. Reverse psychology.
"No, we're not giving you a contract! We don't want you! Why don't you just go away?"
QuoteLB is upgraded with Gocong and, the Eagles think, if they get Fowler. Since I know nothing about Fowler, I can't tell you much about him. You have seen him play, right? The Eagles scouted him and liked what they saw, so they made the move. Until proven wrong, I can only assume he is worth taking a long look at and seeing how he fits in.
hah!
LB is upgraded with the guy they are leaning towards moving back to DE...BRILLIANT!
Spad's article today seems to imply that some trades are imminent. Who do you think is gone?
I'm figuring either Rayburn or Walker are as good as gone for a 5th rd draft pick.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 12, 2007, 12:50:39 PM
Spad's article today seems to imply that some trades are imminent. Who do you think is gone?
I'm figuring either Rayburn or Walker are as good as gone for a 5th rd draft pick.
I think Rayburn and Walker combined would barely net a late 5th rounder.
walker might get you a 5th...rayburn is a POS who shouldnt be in the league
Greg Lewis.
Trade Dhani Jones or cut him. Please.
Tra, #26 and 2nd-rd pick to Houston to draft Adrian Peterson. :P
BanEd76?
sorry, wrong response. The correct answer is "holla!"
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 12, 2007, 01:20:45 PM
Tra, #26 and 2nd-rd pick to Houston to draft Adrian Peterson. :P
OMGCALVINJOHNSONHOLLAZ
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 12, 2007, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 12, 2007, 12:50:39 PM
Spad's article today seems to imply that some trades are imminent. Who do you think is gone?
I'm figuring either Rayburn or Walker are as good as gone for a 5th rd draft pick.
I think Rayburn and Walker combined would barely net a late 5th rounder.
Walker could get a 5th, Rayburn maybe a 6th-7th. They are most likely going to add to the DT group from some source, so these 2 are expendable.
As just mentioned, I can easily see Tra Thomas gone, though I don't think there's any value in trading Greg Lewis. I wouldn't be surprised to see LJ traded either, while he still retains some value. He'll be gone next year without the Eagles getting anything in return, so this may make sense. I of course have no faith in how any of these players will be replaced.
new jizz from Dave (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=66097)
Everything will be fine by the time the season starts. Phew.
I'm glad someone reminded me (repeatedly) that it's actually March and not September. I would have hated to miss 5/6's of the upcoming baseball season.
Kelley Washington to New England....5-yr deal
wtf
Yeah, but it is one of those one year deals masquerading as a 5 year deal. Pretty much identical K to Stallworth except for the differential in pay. But it really is a one year deal, unless Washington posts some ridiculous numbers this year.
What is up with these contracts? Does it just make the player feel better that they have the illusion of a long term deal worth a lot of money? In practice, a one year deal and that deal are no different.
both players come with baggage and couldnt get what they wanted on the open market...so the next best thing is play with tom brady have a big year and cash in next offseason on a long term johnson
Shaun McDonald to the Lions...2-yr deal
wE might get Kurtis!
Bears | Briggs says he's done in Chicago
Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:12:20 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs, who is the team's franchise player, said he is prepared to sit out the 2007 season if the Bears do not trade or release him. He went on to say he's played his last down for the team and will never play in Chicago again.
If the Eagles can find a way of getting him without giving up a first, I will forgive everything they have done this season. Please, PLEASE go after Briggs.
On the other side of that, if Briggs goes to another team for a deal that isn't ridiculous, that would be the nail in the coffin for me with this front office.
Any deal signed with Briggs and any team is going to be ridiculous. He's absolutely indignant at the prospect of earning the average salary of the top 5 highest-paid LBs in the league.
Quote from: King Cole on March 12, 2007, 07:42:02 PM
Bears | Briggs says he's done in Chicago
Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:12:20 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs, who is the team's franchise player, said he is prepared to sit out the 2007 season if the Bears do not trade or release him. He went on to say he's played his last down for the team and will never play in Chicago again.
If the Eagles can find a way of getting him without giving up a first, I will forgive everything they have done this season. Please, PLEASE go after Briggs.
On the other side of that, if Briggs goes to another team for a deal that isn't ridiculous, that would be the nail in the coffin for me with this front office.
Better start polishing that hammer and gold nail then.
The Eagles are definitely going to break the bank on a disgruntled linebacker.
Absolutely.
Apparently Lance Briggs IS less likely to visit the NovaCare complex than he is to swallow his pride and Joe Banner's semen.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 12, 2007, 08:39:52 PM
Apparently Lance Briggs IS less likely to visit the NovaCare complex than he is to swallow his pride and Joe Banner's semen.
:-D :-D :-D I just spilled up my semen all over my keyboard.
Quote from: hbionic on March 12, 2007, 08:49:04 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 12, 2007, 08:39:52 PM
Apparently Lance Briggs IS less likely to visit the NovaCare complex than he is to swallow his pride and Joe Banner's semen.
:-D :-D :-D I just spilled up my semen all over my keyboard.
That's why I always keep my semen in a sippy cup or one with a lid & a crazy straw.
I can't wait for the season to start and we're sitting on $10 mill worth of cap space.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 12, 2007, 10:34:09 PM
I can't wait for the season to start and we're sitting on $10 mill worth of cap space.
Nah. They'll spend the money locking up "young core" players like Reno Mahe, Bill Sampy, and Dustin Fox through 2047.
Thats the thing, there's nobody worth extending with the exception of L.J., and he's barely worth extending. So that moneys going to go to waste.
I hear Bunkley's going to get an extension.
Hair or Penis?
Warranty.
Because... you gotta have goals:
Quote"To be honest with you, the main thing we wanted to do was get Q [Quintin Mikell] and J.T. [Juqua Thomas] done, which we did," Heckert said. "We didn't know about Donté, and the few guys we have targeted, I don't think it's over yet."
"We didn't know about Donté"
bullfargingshtein
theyve had donte for 8 months and spent the better part of the 7th month talking shtein about him to try and soften the sting and validate his impending departure
why do these people even talk
Dude, they completed their two top goals of free agency...
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
i know what they are doing this year
i know because of mcnabbs injury they have already put up the white flag on 07
i know (or strongly believe) that they are gonna spend a bunch of FA $$ in 08
i know they cant admit that this is what they are doing
but that being the case could they please just shut up with the pathetic excuses and lies like they didnt know what would happen with donte...
what happened was he got a one year deal for less than four million...i mean that threw them for a loop?...they obvisouly didnt want donte from day one...thats fine we get it...now please move on and stop making up shtein
There isn't a poster in this forum who didn't think Donte was gonna break the bank and get a long-term deal, IGY.
I'm not saying the Eagles didn't know what was going to eventually happen, but if conventional logic dictated that he was gone and for big bucks, is it really so difficult to believe that the Eagles thought that way too?
Just spitballin' here...
the point is the eagles never made him an offer...so how were they suprised at anything he did or didnt get...they were never in it....so they need to shut up about it
If they're tanking this year and Donte's on basically a one-year deal, then they can go get him back next year!
GO TEAM
donteight
Gray skies are gonna clear up... Put on a happy face! (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=66123)
And, yes, the warning signal was sent out to the linebacking crew with the interest in Fowler.
haha....classic
The message was loud and clear. BE MEDIOCRE-ER!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 09:05:15 AM
And, yes, the warning signal was sent out to the linebacking crew with the interest in Fowler.
haha....classic
They should send a different warning signal to Dhani Jones - a pink slip. Dhani's salary is $2.35 million this year and $2.6 million next year. Awful.
forget that it was ryan fowler....they sent a warning signal by not signing someone...
powerful stuff
lol awful
If you read Dave's forum, it would appear he's completely dejected and yearning for activity as much as anyone.
who needs to read his actual column when you guys re-post most of it here every goddamned day?
ummm thats why they post it...so we dont have to go over to that godfrosaken place
why you have to read him at all I don't understand. I guess if you value watching the Eagles over spending time with your family or earning a living, then maybe Spadaro is a must read?
I guess if you value watching the Eagles over spending time with your family or earning a living, then maybe Spadaro is a must read?
finally youre starting to understand
Quote from: Diomedes on March 13, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
I guess if you value watching the Eagles over spending time with your family or earning a living, then maybe Spadaro is a must read?
Not really, no.
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
I guess if you value watching the Eagles over spending time with your family or earning a living, then maybe Spadaro is a must read?
finally youre starting to understand
too bad we all can't find a job like igy's
thats why they call me the #1 stunna
i think mattys job might trump mine tho
Nobody calls you that.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 10:11:59 AM
If you read Dave's forum, it would appear he's completely dejected and yearning for activity as much as anyone.
QuoteYou know what? I'm not in the mood to debate. I'm really pissed off. So let's drop the bullsh*t, OK? I don't care about "being better than last year" in March. The Eagles have time to make moves, but I am very much looking forward to some positive stuff happening.
When asked if anything is happening, he said no...
Brookover thinks they might sign a backup RB this week...
the whole organization has to be dejected...i really could care less that they didnt get fowler but when you get worked over by suck ass ryan fowler and the tenessee titans its probably time to end yourself
so who's a FA WR next year? Not that we'd try to sign him anyways, but who can I get pissed over the fact that we didn't sign next year?
Quote from: hbionic on March 13, 2007, 12:56:18 PM
so who's a FA WR next year? Not that we'd try to sign him anyways, but who can I get pissed over the fact that we didn't sign next year?
Donte' Stallworth and, of course, David Boston
Ha! David Boston. That freak show still alive? Wasn't he on his death bed a few years ago? Robo-Boston. He sucks in Madden too.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 11:02:14 AM
thats why they call me the #1 stunna
i think mattys job might trump mine tho
HR manager for lap dancers?
Quote from: dis12 on March 13, 2007, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 11:02:14 AM
thats why they call me the #1 stunna
i think mattys job might trump mine tho
HR manager for lap dancers?
Jessica Alba's clitoris fluffer?
i'm a shepherd.
i wanna move up to nashua...find a nice little spread...get some sheep and tend to them
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
i wanna move up to nashua...find a nice little spread...get some sheep and farg them
You go girl.
Kevin Curtis update:
Detroit out of now that they've signed McDonald.
Still negotiating with Minnesota, NY Giants, and Philly.
Now planning another visit... to Tennessee.
I guess his existing offers are underwhelming, as they should be. Probably will end up a Titan.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 03:54:47 PM
Kevin Curtis update:
Detroit out of now that they've signed McDonald.
Still negotiating with Minnesota, NY Giants, and Philly.
Now planning another visit... to Tennessee.
I guess his existing offers are underwhelming, as they should be. Probably will end up a Titan.
I'm up in arms about this.
Quote from: Father Demon on March 13, 2007, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 03:54:47 PM
Kevin Curtis update:
Detroit out of now that they've signed McDonald.
Still negotiating with Minnesota, NY Giants, and Philly.
Now planning another visit... to Tennessee.
I guess his existing offers are underwhelming, as they should be. Probably will end up a Titan.
I'm up in arms about this.
I'm indifferent.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 13, 2007, 04:28:25 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on March 13, 2007, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 03:54:47 PM
Kevin Curtis update:
Detroit out of now that they've signed McDonald.
Still negotiating with Minnesota, NY Giants, and Philly.
Now planning another visit... to Tennessee.
I guess his existing offers are underwhelming, as they should be. Probably will end up a Titan.
I'm up in arms about this.
I'm indifferent.
I'm Troy McClure.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 04:30:11 PM
I'm Troy McClure.
I remember you from such message board topics as, "I'm Frail and Thin, Do I Have AIDS?" and "Meghan's Law, Any Way Around It?"
I love you, Sunny, and I love free agency.
Marcus Pollard to the Seahawks....1-yr deal
To answer bionic's question about FA WRs next offseason besides Stallworth:
Bryant Johnson
Bernard Berrian
Devery Henderson
Keary Colbert
Quote from: Spew
I'm not going to tell you everything in free agency is going according to plan.
:-D
That's really odd, because for the past two weeks Spew has been saying:
1) I don't know what the Eagles' plan is.
2) But I'm sure everything in free agency is going according to that plan so far.
I'm not ripping on Dave because that bullshtein is his job, but I sure am laughing at him.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2007, 05:26:36 PM
Marcus Pollard to the Seahawks....1-yr deal
To answer bionic's question about FA WRs next offseason besides Stallworth:
Bryant Johnson
Bernard Berrian
Devery Henderson
Keary Colbert
Alright we need to trade G. lewis, to Chicago for B. Berrian, The south side where I work would go nuts, they love G. :ewia, they even had a G. lewis night at Rich East H. School this year, I'm tellin you it wuill workb
This thread is sucking more ass than Rosie O'Donnel.
Ass for everyone!
Quote from: phillymic2000 on March 13, 2007, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 13, 2007, 05:26:36 PM
Marcus Pollard to the Seahawks....1-yr deal
To answer bionic's question about FA WRs next offseason besides Stallworth:
Bryant Johnson
Bernard Berrian
Devery Henderson
Keary Colbert
Alright we need to trade G. lewis, to Chicago for B. Berrian, The south side where I work would go nuts, they love G. :ewia, they even had a G. lewis night at Rich East H. School this year, I'm tellin you it wuill workb
G-LEW AND A 4TH ROUND PICK FOR URLACHER!!111111
Nick Harper to the Titans
Ike Reese visited the Rams today
Shawn Barber is visiting the Texans on Thursday
McCardell will visit the Saints
Stokley will visit the Broncos
Kevin Kaesviharn to the Saints ... 4 yrs, $10M, $3.25M SB
So is the Eagles FO planning to do ANYTHING in FA this year? This is absurd. What are the pundits on the local news up there saying?
The local news has nothing for the Eagles. It's all Villanova/Penn right now...
farg stallworth and the rest of the FA wideouts, yall are better off w/o him considering how deep the draft is at WR.
Quote from: TRUCK RATHMAN on March 14, 2007, 05:09:11 AM
farg stallworth and the rest of the FA wideouts, yall are better off w/o him considering how well this FO drafts WRs
D Gunn reporting Chris Brown may be in for a visit later this week.
id be real happy with brown....well as happy as one can be with a back up rb
brown would work.
i'd be okay with curtis as well...even though they supposedly "can't afford" him either.
Quote from: SunMo on March 13, 2007, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 13, 2007, 04:30:11 PM
I'm Troy McClure.
I remember you from such message board topics as, "I'm Frail and Thin, Do I Have AIDS?" and "Meghan's Law, Any Way Around It?"
LMFAO :-D
DGunn reported that the Eagles are going to bring in Chris Brown for a visit later this week and that he's ok in a role where he'd be backing up Westbrook.
Maybe he can play linebacker too.
Oh yea, another year another Levens/Guy from Rams/Buckhalter/Brown. All mediocre if not below average running backs who are wash ups, backing up a multi-threat running back. When is the offensive genius of this team going to go after a reliable/good back up? Ya know, lets spread westbrook out more than 3-4 times a game. have a reliable back-up who can pound the ball between the tackles and have westy split running plays with the other back, and spread out in WR position when he's not running. or run some damn fakes. he needs to be utilized more...i was looking forward last year to more plays with buck at HB and Westy in the slot. Didn't happen. Of course, run game didn't happen either.
where's Amp Lee when you need him?
Rumor has it that Kevin Curtis has narrowed down to the Titans and Vikings and both teams are offering roughly the same deal: 6 years, $30m total, $10m upfront to sign.
Frankly, considering the needs the Eagles have and the size of that contract, I hope they don't sign him. I'd rather they sign or trade for defense and use money on that... or on extending L.J.
WIP reporting the Eagles are hosting RON DAYNE tomorrow.
Holy Christ - this is going from bad to boring to funny.
its all just funny at this point
does crap like this even bother anyone anymore
as far as im concerned the eagles are the flyers right now
ill enjoy the draft ill follow the development of young guys like bunkley justice gaither considine next year but really im looking two or three years out for the hope of something worthwhile
i like it in a sense as there will be no pressure going into next year as far as watching games...and i havent experienced that in a long long time
I think I'd rather have Buckhalter back.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2007, 03:20:24 PM
I think I'd rather have Buckhalter back.
I was just about to type that
Ugh. No thanks. At this point it would probably be better to draft a guy on the second day with slightly more intelligence than Moats.
I still think if he is there, they'll snag Bush in round 2. Which means they'll snag a tweener from San Jose State.
At this point it is so laughable it is almost like they are doing this on purpose to spite the fans. Ron farging Dayne? You can't be serious. You'd rather have him than Dillon, Brown, or Buck even?
What the farg is going on?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
WIP reporting the Eagles are hosting RON DAYNE tomorrow.
i'm ready to have a tailgate party on the Walt Whitman bridge. as we jump, everyone yells "Banner is a farging cheap icehole". last person yells, and dallas sucks too".
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
WIP reporting the Eagles are hosting RON DAYNE tomorrow.
Good... because this offseason hasn't been quite embarassing enough.
RON DAYNE!?!?!! 1 and 15 woooooooooooo!!
who has a higher ypc average over their career. Ron Dayne or Reno Mahe?
ha.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 14, 2007, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
WIP reporting the Eagles are hosting RON DAYNE tomorrow.
Good... because this offseason hasn't been quite embarassing enough.
Agreed.
All I can say is I can't wait until we go into New England this upcoming season and get annihilated and Stallworth has 200 yard receiving. I can't wait to see the look on Andy and the rest of the FO's face.
I only hope it is the first game of the season, because I don't want the Eagles to start out 3-0 against crap competition with the "I told you so" smug attitude. I want the tough games to be in the beginnign and end of the schedule, so they can't make another mirage playoff run and can't start out the season bragging.
Oh yeah well I'm such a big Eagle fan that I want the Eagles to lose all their games! That'll show 'em!
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
All I can say is I can't wait until we go into New England this upcoming season and get annihilated
Do you ever stop posting stupid farging bullshtein, kid?
Jesus Christ... shut up.
No one wants them to lose all their games. I want them to be challenged though. Winning against bad teams and losing in the playoffs will accomplish nothing like last season. If they want to do nothing in free agency and be arrogant about how they don't need any help, then I want them to prove they can beat good teams. Anyone can beat up on bad teams, finish 10-6, make the second round of the playoffs and be arrogant about it. If they can't beat good teams then it proves they weren't good enough in the first place.
Do you ever stop posting stupid farging bullshtein, kid?
absolutely not
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 14, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
i like it in a sense as there will be no pressure going into next year as far as watching games...and i havent experienced that in a long long time
no pressure? werent you singing the same tune last offseason into the regular season?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 14, 2007, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
All I can say is I can't wait until we go into New England this upcoming season and get annihilated
Do you ever stop posting stupid farging bullshtein, kid?
Jesus Christ... shut up.
Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it BS. It just shows how much of a whiny little immature baby you really are is all.
No, it's BS
Nah.
Robaire Smith to Browns. Contract unknown.
Banner will be on WIP with Eskin tomorrow. Joy.
Perhaps a softball game will breakout.
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
All I can say is I can't wait until we go into New England this upcoming season and get annihilated and Stallworth has 200 yard receiving. I can't wait to see the look on Andy and the rest of the FO's face.
I only hope it is the first game of the season, because I don't want the Eagles to start out 3-0 against crap competition with the "I told you so" smug attitude. I want the tough games to be in the beginnign and end of the schedule, so they can't make another mirage playoff run and can't start out the season bragging.
I'm sure the last time someone said something like that, they were predicting Owens would burn the secondary for multiple 100 yard and multiple TD games and it didn't happen. As for them "playing tough games at the beginning and end of the schedule", everyone seemed to be predicting last season a tough three game road trip against the NFC East--how'd that work out? A lot of things can happen before and during the season that can change the fortunes of teams.
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 03:45:28 PM
At this point it is so laughable it is almost like they are doing this on purpose to spite the fans. Ron farging Dayne? You can't be serious. You'd rather have him than Dillon, Brown, or Buck even?
What the farg is going on?
Dillon still wants to be an every-down back--that's why he wanted out of New England. Is he going to get more than 150 carries with the Eagles? Not with Westbrook healthy--and in another thread I wrote that events happen that can change the fortune of teams--but still, if Westbrook stays healthy, he's not going to get more than 5-8 carries a game.
I don't understand what the infatuation with Chris Brown is. He is too much of an upright runner, has an injury history only beaten by Buckhalter, and he fumbles too much. Why doo you think that the Titans made the deal to get Henry?
Buckhalter has said he wants more than 83 carries in a season.
The thing is, there isn't much out there--you have the above three and players like Stephen Davis, Jamal Robertson, LaBrandon Toefield, Dee Brown--that's it as far as RBs go.
As far as the draft, it's looking like the Eagles will use one of their day 1 picks on a WR--that leaves the other two for defense--and they need more help on defense than they need on offense at this point.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 15, 2007, 01:54:08 AM
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 03:45:28 PM
At this point it is so laughable it is almost like they are doing this on purpose to spite the fans. Ron farging Dayne? You can't be serious. You'd rather have him than Dillon, Brown, or Buck even?
What the farg is going on?
Dillon still wants to be an every-down back--that's why he wanted out of New England. Is he going to get more than 150 carries with the Eagles? Not with Westbrook healthy--and in another thread I wrote that events happen that can change the fortune of teams--but still, if Westbrook stays healthy, he's not going to get more than 5-8 carries a game.
I don't understand what the infatuation with Chris Brown is. He is too much of an upright runner, has an injury history only beaten by Buckhalter, and he fumbles too much. Why doo you think that the Titans made the deal to get Henry?
Buckhalter has said he wants more than 83 carries in a season.
The thing is, there isn't much out there--you have the above three and players like Stephen Davis, Jamal Robertson, LaBrandon Toefield, Dee Brown--that's it as far as RBs go.
As far as the draft, it's looking like the Eagles will use one of their day 1 picks on a WR--that leaves the other two for defense--and they need more help on defense than they need on offense at this point.
I'm not a huge fan of Dillon or Brown either, but here is the thing. Brown, while not that great, is better than Dayne and has had 1,000 yard season under his belt. He has been unable to stay healthy, but when he is, shows promise of a quality back.
Dillon wants to be a featured back, but no one will make him one. So ultimately he is either going to have to share the load or retire. No team in their right minds would make him a featured back.
Ron Dayne is just garbage. He sucked in NY, was average in Denver, and was average in Houston. He has never shown potential to do anything, and can't receive out of the backfield at all. I'd rather just keep Buck.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on March 15, 2007, 01:46:12 AM
Quote from: King Cole on March 14, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
All I can say is I can't wait until we go into New England this upcoming season and get annihilated and Stallworth has 200 yard receiving. I can't wait to see the look on Andy and the rest of the FO's face.
I only hope it is the first game of the season, because I don't want the Eagles to start out 3-0 against crap competition with the "I told you so" smug attitude. I want the tough games to be in the beginnign and end of the schedule, so they can't make another mirage playoff run and can't start out the season bragging.
I'm sure the last time someone said something like that, they were predicting Owens would burn the secondary for multiple 100 yard and multiple TD games and it didn't happen. As for them "playing tough games at the beginning and end of the schedule", everyone seemed to be predicting last season a tough three game road trip against the NFC East--how'd that work out? A lot of things can happen before and during the season that can change the fortunes of teams.
I'm not rooting for the Patriots to beat us or Stallworth to rip us apart. Maybe I should've been clearer. What I meant was, I can't wait until after the game when they annihilate us what Andy's reaction would be. I'm not rooting for us to lose, I just am looking forward to their excuses.
But, you are right. Nothing is set in stone. Still... we have a poor record against AFC teams. Especially the good ones. I don't see much left that can be done to improve this team other than the draft. Hope I'm wrong though.
I don't understand what the infatuation with Chris Brown is.
no infatuation he would only be a BACK UP RB and would be a nice one
He is too much of an upright runner, has an injury history
to lower the chance of injuries he will be a BACK UP RB
Why doo you think that the Titans made the deal to get Henry?
because they wanted henry to be their starting rb and chris brown to be their BACK UP RB
Quote from: King Cole on March 15, 2007, 02:52:14 AM
Ron Dayne is just garbage. He sucked in NY, was average in Denver, and was average in Houston. He has never shown potential to do anything, and can't receive out of the backfield at all. I'd rather just keep Buck.
I think his failure in Denver is the real telling point - Shanahan had to finally admit that he couldn't just plug any running back in and get 1,000 yards.
Confirmed!
QuoteI don't get into speculation because that gets me into trouble here ... Dayne is here and we shall see how it goes
Schefter has it on NFL.com now too.
Quote
Free agent RB Ron Dayne is visiting the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday.
I can hear the laughter already. ::)
I work near NY with Giant fans and they are loving the fact that we have Dayne in for a visit........RON DAYNE????????? Have we completely given up?
PE.com (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=66169)
QuoteRB Dayne Visits As Eagles Address Backfield
March 15, 2007
By BOB KENT
While the Eagles wait for free-agent receiver Kevin Curtis to decide where he wants to play football next season, the team turns its attention to the backfield Thursday as it plays host to free-agent running back Ron Dayne.
A former Heisman Trophy winner, Dayne will meet with coaches and team personnel at the NovaCare Complex and will then meet the media at 3:30 PM. We'll have complete coverage here on PhiladelphiaEagles.com.
At 5-foot-10, 243-pounds, Dayne would add some much-needed bulk to the Eagles backfield and provide a nice change of pace from versatile playmaker Brian Westbrook.
A seven-year veteran, Dayne is coming off his best season in five years. In 11 games with the Houston Texans, Dayne rushed for 612 yards on 151 carries, including five touchdowns. He added a career-high 14 receptions for 77 yards. His 4.1 yards per carry average was the second-highest of his career.
The Texans are reportedly interested in re-signing Dayne, yet Thursday's visit certainly indicates that Dayne is exploring other options.
A former first-round pick of the Giants, Dayne is no stranger to the Eagles or the NFC East. In New York he played "thunder" to Tiki Barber's "lightning." He rushed for 770 yards in helping the Giants to the Super Bowl as a rookie. He followed that up with a productive 2001 campaign in which he rushed for 690 yards on 180 carries, including a career-high seven touchdowns.
Dayne's stint with the Giants ended after five seasons. He spent the 2005 season with the Denver Broncos. Playing behind the likes of Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell, Dayne averaged a career-high 5.1 yards per carry on a mere 53 carries.
In Philadelphia, Dayne would likely fill a situational role behind Westbrook, who emerged as the team's featured back last season which he capped off with his first 1,000-yard rushing season.
Dayne has played in 83 career games and has rushed for 2,949 yards and 22 touchdowns on 789 carries.
A three-time All-American at the University of Wisconsin, Dayne is a native of South Jersey.
Guarantee he's signed by the end of today. :'(
Quote from: jroceagles on March 15, 2007, 11:05:30 AM
I work near NY with Giant fans and they are loving the fact that we have Dayne in for a visit........RON DAYNE????????? Have we completely given up?
i feel your pain. Gints fans still laugh about us having banjo-man.
Dayne has 3 things going for him better than Buckhalter at least:
blocking
left knee
right knee
He's also a more stereotypical "big back". I'm trying to see him possibly signing as a positive somehow.
he doesn't run like a big back...when somebody says "big back" to me, i think of a guy who can pick up a tough 3rd and 1, which Dayne proved he can't do.
obviously this is Andy's master plan to get us to applaud when he throws the ball on 3rd and 1
Right - hand to Dayne a few times on 3rd and short... he fails every time... fans soon yearn for the fade pattern.
It's genius. A credit to the FO for devising the plan.
Quote from: SunMo on March 15, 2007, 12:06:34 PM
he doesn't run like a big back...when somebody says "big back" to me, i think of a guy who can pick up a tough 3rd and 1, which Dayne proved he can't do.
obviously this is Andy's master plan to get us to applaud when he throws the ball on 3rd and 1
Not only that, but he isn't much of a blocker. Dayne has only had success, if you want to call it that, in zone blocking schemes where there is a hole and he runs through it. He can't improvise or make a play happen on any kind of level. He also has hands of stone. He's probably in the bottom three RBs available.
I really think this is a FO scare tactic to try and get Buck to come to Jesus......they can't seriously be interested in Dayne. :paranoid
Brutal........... :puke
It's gonna be even better when he signs with some AFC team.
YOU BE THE GM!! (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19560.0)
You're going in the "can't start new threads" group with Bunkley and stillupfront.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 15, 2007, 12:30:36 PM
You're going in the "can't start new threads" group with Bunkley and stillupfront.
You mean "King Cole" and "stalker", right?
Them too, FastFreddie.
Being an Eagles fan is akin to being in the 9th circle of hell. Been wanting them to get a big change of pace back and they finally seem to get it, but go out and look at Ron farging Dayne.....
Good news? Spadaro and/or his minions removed the Dayne visit story from the site.
Soon to replace with a Dayne signing story?
Sean Morey to the Cardinals....3-yr deal
Sean Morey has a farging Super Bowl ring.
Timmy Chang signs with Hamilton of the CFL. After he breaks Warren Moons records, birds will be all over him. :yay
Quote from: Diomedes on March 15, 2007, 04:43:18 PM
Sean Morey has a farging Super Bowl ring.
Did he even play that season?
Quote from: King Cole on March 15, 2007, 04:31:04 PM
Soon to replace with a Dayne signing story?
No, was replaced with a "Dayne likes what he sees" fluff piece.
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
Vilma? I'd be estatic. farg the draft after that.
jets still looking to shop him around?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
I'd do backflips
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
I'd be willing to give up the Dixie Chicks 4eva if that happened.
Not sure if it was brought up yet, but Briggs' agent is Ro$enhau$...
FWIW, Vilma is one of the few ex-Hurricanes that doesn't use Drew. His is Mitch Frankel...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 16, 2007, 12:21:21 AM
Not sure if it was brought up yet, but Briggs' agent is Ro$enhau$...
FWIW, Vilma is one of the few ex-Hurricanes that doesn't use Drew. His is Mitch Frankel...
And unusually, Rosenhaus has been very quiet while Briggs mixes it up with the Bears publicly--I wonder how long before he's out on his lawn doing PCs?
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
Depends on what we give up for Vilma. I'd have to think long and hard about giving up a first. A second rounder I'd do in a heartbeat, but we'd need to add another player and a future pick as well.
Assume they traded a 1st for Vilma and sign Dillon.
Pfft. I'd trade our first for Vilma in a heartbeat. Have you seen how we make out with our first rounders?
Quote from: Zanshin on March 16, 2007, 08:04:27 AM
Pfft. I'd trade our first for Vilma in a heartbeat. Have you seen how we make out with our first rounders?
this.
Is not a sentence.
Anyone who wouldnt trade this years 1st for Vilma is nuts. And Im not talking like "Oh, look at that guy over there - he's nuts" type of nuts. We're talking legit insanity.
He's better than Simmons, Poz, Willis or any other LB we could get at 26, and like someone said - he's only 26.
That said, how did Vilmas name come up? Is there any substance, or did you jerk just throw his name out there for shteins and giggles?
Rumors came out that he was on the block b/c the jets are going to a 3/4 defense and Vilma is a 4/3 mlb only. Who knows, its a pipe dream but WE PRAY :evil
The last time we collectively prayed, Donte walked. The time before that we got Owens.
I'm done praying.
Seems that those we pray to have a sense of humour....
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 16, 2007, 09:04:32 AM
That said, how did Vilmas name come up? Is there any substance, or did you jerk just throw his name out there for shteins and giggles?
TATE
wasnt it rumored on Sirius SD? Then the taters got ahold of it.
Heckert broke the Curtis signing on Sirius, Cross and Schein asked about future moves specifically LB and he said they're exploring some trades for a LB. Never said Vilma's name but since him and Briggs are on the market I guess its only normal that fans speculate.
Quote from: Phanatic on March 16, 2007, 10:32:16 AM
Seems that those we pray to have a sense of humour....
Or a sadistic streak.
A running back signing is imminent, probably today.
Buck or Dayne
Dayne or Buck
excitement abounds!
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 15, 2007, 09:43:18 PM
If the Eagles traded for Jonathan Vilma and signed Corey Dillon, would you be happy with FA and ready for the draft?
I say yes.
Hell yeah.
Quote from: SunMo on March 16, 2007, 12:06:34 PM
Buck or Dayne
Dayne or Buck
excitement abounds!
Gimme Buck all day long.
i did
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: SunMo on March 16, 2007, 12:06:34 PM
Buck or Dayne
Dayne or Buck
excitement abounds!
Gimme Buck all day long.
Your wish is the Eagles' FO command!
I heard he tore up a knee while signing the contract.
A 1st for Vilma would be done in a heartbeat -- I would hope.
Hell, I'd throw in a token 7th or 6th, too -- maybe even a 5th. The Eagles are going to get a ton of compensatory picks next year for losing Garcia to a big contract and for losing Stallworth and Hood, so might as well make some moves now.
And at 26, with, what, 3 years of NFL experience? Done deal.
Quote from: Eaglez on March 16, 2007, 01:43:24 PM
The Eagles are going to get a ton of compensatory picks next year
Not really. Curtis's contract is about as big as 2 of the 3 guys you mentioned.
Well, so much for that.
Absent those picks, I'd still think Vilma would be worth it given that Vilma is a legit All-Pro LB at a very young age.
So do we all pretty much agree that we'd take Vilma for a 1st and anyone who wouldn't is a complete and utter moron and an icehole on top of that?
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 03:35:55 PM
So do we all pretty much agree that we'd take Vilma for a 1st and anyone who wouldn't is a complete and utter moron and an icehole on top of that?
We're all iceholes, but yeah... anyone who thinks the 2007 #26 pick is more valuable than Jonathan Vilma should probably ban themselves at least from following the NFL at all and at most from life.
Vilma makes a lot of hay on speed and smarts. He's not a big dude.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 16, 2007, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 03:35:55 PM
So do we all pretty much agree that we'd take Vilma for a 1st and anyone who wouldn't is a complete and utter moron and an icehole on top of that?
We're all iceholes, but yeah... anyone who thinks the 2007 #26 pick is more valuable than Jonathan Vilma should probably ban themselves at least from following the NFL at all and at most from life.
Quote from: King Cole on March 16, 2007, 04:48:21 AM
Depends on what we give up for Vilma. I'd have to think long and hard about giving up a first. A second rounder I'd do in a heartbeat, but we'd need to add another player and a future pick as well.
Thanks for doing my legwork there....
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 03:35:55 PM
So do we all pretty much agree that we'd take Vilma for a 1st and anyone who wouldn't is a complete and utter moron and an icehole on top of that?
Fine, I submit, we should give up our 1st for Vilma. I'm still an icehole, though.
You'll always be an icehole in my book...
I feel the love.
Vilma is definitely worth the 26th pick value-wise, that isn't the question. I just hate the idea of giving up the first round pick. Also will there be anyone at 26 that could help us more than Vilma? A safety? A DE? Probably not, but you better be damn sure if you want to trade that pick for Vilma.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 03:47:37 PM
You'll always be an icehole in my book...
Hold it down!
Quote from: Diomedes on March 16, 2007, 03:40:20 PM
Vilma makes a lot of hay on speed and smarts.
Is that even a requirement for our LB's? They all seem to be a bunch of brainless morons on the field.
Quote from: King Cole on March 16, 2007, 03:58:06 PM
Vilma is definitely worth the 26th pick value-wise, that isn't the question. I just hate the idea of giving up the first round pick. Also will there be anyone at 26 that could help us more than Vilma? A safety? A DE? Probably not, but you better be damn sure if you want to trade that pick for Vilma.
I dont understand why anyone wouldn't be "damn sure" unless they believe EVERYTHING the front office says and nothing else. Who is a better option? Seriously. Everyone wants them to spend the 26th pick on defensive player. Vilma is a defensive player. He's easily worth the pick. What is there to question?
I know for damn sure that Vilma is a pro-bowl caliber defensive player. I don't know that for sure about the 26th pick of the draft.
I especially don't know that for sure about a defender that Reid's Eagles have ever drafted in the first round. (Yes, I know about Lito).
Quote from: King Cole on March 16, 2007, 03:58:06 PM
Vilma is definitely worth the 26th pick value-wise, that isn't the question. I just hate the idea of giving up the first round pick. Also will there be anyone at 26 that could help us more than Vilma? A safety? A DE? Probably not, but you better be damn sure if you want to trade that pick for Vilma.
I am damn sure there will not be anyone on the board at 16 I'd rather have, let alone 26.
Cato June visited the Bucs, but Colts still the favorites to sign him according to Schefter.
Quote from: King Cole on March 17, 2007, 12:13:54 AM
Cato June visited the Bucs, but Colts still the favorites to sign him according to Schefter.
Anyone give a shtein about Cato June?
If so, why?
June signed with the Bucs per Sirius
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 16, 2007, 05:03:50 PM
I know for damn sure that Vilma is a pro-bowl caliber defensive player. I don't know that for sure about the 26th pick of the draft.
I especially don't know that for sure about a defender that Reid's Eagles have ever drafted in the first round. (Yes, I know about Lito).
Thats my thinking. You can't expect Reid to draft anyone better. If it was the 15th or higher and a no brainer, maybe. But drafting at the 26th spot, you would be a fool to put your money on Reid drafting a pro-bowl linebacker. Not that it isn't possible, just not at all probable.
Quote from: shorebird on March 17, 2007, 12:56:34 PM
But drafting at the 26th spot, you would be a fool to put your money on Reid drafting a linebacker.
Right.
That too! It amazes me that so little emphasis seems to be put upon the weakest part of our D for the last two-three years.
The June signing is confirmed on Buccaneers.com
Quote from: shorebird on March 17, 2007, 01:07:27 PM
That too! It amazes me that so little emphasis seems to be put upon the weakest part of our D for the last two-three years.
How dare you suggest the Eagles aren't addressing the linebacker positions!
If selecting Omar Gaither, Chris Gocong & Matt McCoy isn't addressing a position, I don't know what is.
I wholly expect the Eagles to draft a Tackle this year with the 26th pick because the Eagles need someone to replace Runyan down the road...
The first 3 picks should be a 2 LBs and a safety, but that would make too much sense.
While I agree that the Eagles desperately need to address the LB position, I don't know of anyone available via FA that would have been overly helpful, outside of Adalius Thomas.
I'm holding out hope that they make a trade for LB help instead of relying solely on the draft and Gocong.
We're trading a 5th rounder for Simoneau.
Shawn Barber signed with the Texans
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 19, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
Shawn Barber signed with the Texans
Shawn Barber + ND Kalu = SUPER BOWL
Is it me or have the Texans been really active with signing second and third tier free agents?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 20, 2007, 08:52:56 AM
Is it me or have the Texans been really active with signing second and third tier free agents?
Sounds about right. But that may have something to do with the fact that really weren't any true 1st tier players available this year. Stallworth and Adelius Thomas topped the list.
Weak year for free agency imo.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 20, 2007, 08:57:42 AM
Weak year for free agency imo.
Expect more of the same with the escalating cap values and the franchise tag in place as it is. More and more teams will be re-signing their own best players to long term deals or at least slapping them with the tag.
Then there are teams like the Eagles who will be signing all of their most mediocre players to long term deals and letting actual difference makers leave. I love this team.
Your miserable attitude, as you might know, is refreshing.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 20, 2007, 09:06:34 AM
Then there are teams like the Eagles who will be signing all of their most mediocre players to long term deals and letting actual difference makers leave. I love this team.
Are you saying that you don't like Mike Patterson's 20 year extension?
mike patterson is the nfl's rick dipietro....except he isnt good
Quote from: rjs246 on March 20, 2007, 08:52:56 AM
Is it me or have the Texans been really active with signing second and third tier free agents?
They've been busy following the Reid/Banner business model for mediocrity.
I can't remember a year when the Eagles brought in a bunch of mediocre players. They prefer drafting them.
True.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 20, 2007, 11:09:42 AM
I can't remember a year when the Eagles brought in a bunch of mediocre players. They prefer drafting them.
that, and also picking them up after the draft as UDFA's...
UDFA is where you find your starters, not your career backups.
ex-Colts DT Montae Reagor visiting Eagles today (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=66351)
wow, that impresses me :puke
Hurray for more undersized DTs. farging die.
Great, another 4th DT to add into the mix there.
Well, I look at it this way - I'd much rather have Reagor than Walker and/or Rayburn and/or McDougle.
He's a very solid player, but, of course, run-stuffing is not his specialty.
I wouldn't mind him being signed.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Well, I look at it this way - I'd much rather have Reagor than Walker and/or Rayburn and/or McDougle.
I like it cause it's new blood. Rayburn has been useless since the 2004 season.
Wouldn't mind seeing Walker get gone either.
Walker's good...for half a season.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 20, 2007, 01:03:28 PM
Walker's good...for half a season.
He is inconsistent even when healthy, and his health is even more inconsistent than his play. At least Rayburn can be counted on to suck complete ass game after game. He's reliable.
Quotehe ranked fourth among all defensive tackles with 10.5 sacks
Well he missed most of last year but if he can come back and get in the rotation why not.
You're welcome, Marcus Hayes.
Pictured below lightning quick Ben Rhtososjfkberger zooms past Montae!
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7730/2224361670048274897thcuke9.jpg)
Go Montae, go Montae, go Montae...!!
Looks like he fits the Eagles' mold of guys who tend to be around the ball without making impact plays on it.
Also note that Cato June is about 15 yards away from the ball.
But yeah, the Eagles definitely should have signed him too!
Woot!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2007, 12:59:25 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Walker get gone either.
Walker can at least get to the QB once in awhile, Rayburn ????
Walker can at least get to the QB once in awhile
yeah its usually holding hands during the post game prayer
Montae was hurt last year and magically soon after the run defense started sucking. Hmmmmmmm.
Quote from: King Cole on March 20, 2007, 04:43:53 PM
Montae was hurt last year and magically soon after the run defense started sucking. Hmmmmmmm.
Holy farging Christ, you need to shut your virtual cake hole and never log in to this or any other site again. You're infecting all of us with stupid, and that's farging tough to do, because most of the people here are plenty farging stupid in their own right. Die by self-inflicted wounds. Go to farging hell. You suck.
Cmon man, you can't deny that Montae Reagor being hurt was the reason their run defense wasn't playing well. He's Montae farging Reagor.
You are teh uber-retard. And I mean that in the absolute worst and meanest sense of the word "retard".
16th against the run in 2005 when Reagor played 13 games
24th against the run in 2004 when Reagor played 16 games
20th against the run in 2003 when Reagor played 13 games
huh
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 20, 2007, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 20, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Well, I look at it this way - I'd much rather have Reagor than Walker and/or Rayburn and/or McDougle.
I like it cause it's new blood. Rayburn has been useless since the 2004 season.
That should be on a t-shirt.
Reagor; eh. Bring him in for TC, give him no guarantees and see if he wins a job from either Rayburn or Walker.
I'd like to see LaJuan Ramsey get more PT. He actually played pretty well in limited action last year; arguably better than Bunkley. But then for some reason he was always disabled with Rayburn getting the nod. Don't understand that.
Needed to get a white DT in there for some PT.
Brandon Stokley to the Broncos....1-yr
Ken Hamlin is visiting Dallas today.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2007, 03:36:22 PM
Walker can at least get to the QB once in awhile
yeah its usually holding hands during the post game prayer
Also, QBs will occasionally trip over him after he's been pancaked...
Cowboys signed Safety Ken Hamlin (per ESPN ticker)
Bobby Engram re-signed with Seattle...multi-year deal
Anthony Adams to the Bears....4-yr deal
Terrelle Smith signed a 2-yr deal with Arizona
Az Hakim and Chris Liwienski signed 1-yr deals with Miami
Chris Redman signed with Atlanta
Josh Booty signed with Oakland
Michael Haynes (former PSU DE that was taken one spot ahead of McDougle) and Marques Tuiasosopo signed with the Jets
Giants signed OLB Kawika Mitchell to a 1 year $1 million deal
He's no Sean Barber, that's for sure.
:-D
Sure isn't, more like the second coming of LT
farging Giants fans... :-D :-D
Watch your mouth.
>:(
LOL - sorry Bluey. :-D
You're a definite exception when it comes to the mongoloidal idiocy of Giants fans.
meanwhile, Rome is patent living example of the mongoloidal idiocy of Eagles fans.
Carr and Harrington are visiting the Panthers next week
I would imagine Carr would find some work rather quickly. He's been solid the past 3 years I think he was more the product of a garbage O-line and offense in general than him being crappy. Sure, he hasn't lived up to expectations being the 1st pick overall, but he is still a decent NFL QB and if I was a Panthers fan I would be clamoring to pick up Carr, give him a good O-line, and see what happens.
Carr to the Panthers...2-yr deal
Was mentioned in the other section but wanted to throw it here too
He'll probably be their starter by midseason.
I don't think it will take that long.
Good move for both sides.
Joey Harrington is now Vick's backup.....2-yr deal
As bad as Harrington is, he might be a better passer than Vick.
Jerramy Stevens to the Buccaneers