Post what you want to happen, the players you want, and anything in between here.
farg mcnabb in his fat chunky soup icehole.
farg reid. you're fat and dumb and your kids are horrible people.
farg sheldon brown. go get your money somewhere else icehole. like hell.
farg desean jackson. make a farging play you showboating, twitter trash talking douchebag. sting your own ass. with aids.
farg jamaal jackson. get a real knee you fat ass.
farg sean mcdermott. be sure to send jason garrett a card on father's day.
farg asante samuel. maybe you can learn to tackle at the pro bowl.
farg mike vick. back to the prison league for you.
farg jason peters. no wonder buffalo didn't farging want you.
farg all of you. every single one of you lifeless, pathetic jizz eating funholes.
Merry Christmas Sarge.
Where's the Tylenol?
in your uncles rape basement. and farg his dusty electronic drum set too.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2010, 11:51:06 PM
farg mcnabb in his fat chunky soup icehole.
farg reid. you're fat and dumb and your kids are horrible people.
farg sheldon brown. go get your money somewhere else icehole. like hell.
farg desean jackson. make a farging play you showboating, twitter trash talking douchebag. sting your own ass. with aids.
farg jamaal jackson. get a real knee you fat ass.
farg sean mcdermott. be sure to send jason garrett a card on father's day.
farg asante samuel. maybe you can learn to tackle at the pro bowl.
farg mike vick. back to the prison league for you.
farg jason peters. no wonder buffalo didn't farging want you.
farg all of you. every single one of you lifeless, pathetic jizz eating funholes.
You missed Macho Harris who had one of the worst 1st quarters of football I've ever seen before getting hurt. He missed 4 tackles in the first quarter.
So bad.
That's my pops.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 09, 2010, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2010, 11:51:06 PM
farg mcnabb in his fat chunky soup icehole.
farg reid. you're fat and dumb and your kids are horrible people.
farg sheldon brown. go get your money somewhere else icehole. like hell.
farg desean jackson. make a farging play you showboating, twitter trash talking douchebag. sting your own ass. with aids.
farg jamaal jackson. get a real knee you fat ass.
farg sean mcdermott. be sure to send jason garrett a card on father's day.
farg asante samuel. maybe you can learn to tackle at the pro bowl.
farg mike vick. back to the prison league for you.
farg jason peters. no wonder buffalo didn't farging want you.
farg all of you. every single one of you lifeless, pathetic jizz eating funholes.
You missed Macho Harris who had one of the worst 1st quarters of football I've ever seen before getting hurt. He missed 4 tackles in the first quarter.
So bad.
he falls under the "all of you" umbrella.
and super farg you for not turning in a fantasy playoff roster. farger.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2010, 11:55:49 PM
in your uncles rape basement. and farg his dusty electronic drum set too.
:-D :-D sarge, I farging love you.
Get healthy and stay healthy - enjoy retirement Westy
Welcome Kolb to WCO - it's a 3 step drop sans the happy feet
Need Stewie back
i forgot all about bradley. farg him too.
what's the bigger joke: people saying that sheldon should be in the pro bowl, or jason peters actually being in the pro bowl? the people who said peters was overrated were right. it's not that he's horrible, he's just not great by any stretch of the imagination.
macho harris is my most hated player on this team right now. even more than mcnabb. dawk in a walker with a life alert necklace on would be more effective than harris. are there any free agent safeties out there? when you're forced to trust the draft, you end up with kids like this.
sheldon and bwest need to be old yellered asap
farg life alert and the seniors who have them.
Andy Reid to die of a heart attack.
Quote from: shorebird on January 10, 2010, 12:18:50 AM
Andy Reid to die of a heart attack.
when maclin scored that TD they showed reid and it actually looked like there was a heart attack in progress
I hope their plane crashes on the way back. Hopefully Lurie and Banner are on it too.
Don't underestimate the anger this debacle will have - this is not "we gave it the college try just a player away" bs from last year.
These last six days will cause a lot of commotion. I think it will result in meaningful moves - not all will succeed, but regardless if you thought this team seriously flawed from the start, these cowpie beatdowns will do as good a job for change as a 5-11 season.
the only reason this might raise and eyebrow with lurie/banner is because it didn't result in a single home playoff game.
Not gonna' happen' imo. Reid will still be the coach, McNabb will still be the qb, and barring a great draft the oline will stay the same.
of course it's not gonna happen. but you know banner hasn't been able to sit still since giving playoff ticket refunds last week.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on January 09, 2010, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2010, 11:51:06 PM
farg mcnabb in his fat chunky soup icehole.
farg reid. you're fat and dumb and your kids are horrible people.
farg sheldon brown. go get your money somewhere else icehole. like hell.
farg desean jackson. make a farging play you showboating, twitter trash talking douchebag. sting your own ass. with aids.
farg jamaal jackson. get a real knee you fat ass.
farg sean mcdermott. be sure to send jason garrett a card on father's day.
farg asante samuel. maybe you can learn to tackle at the pro bowl.
farg mike vick. back to the prison league for you.
farg jason peters. no wonder buffalo didn't farging want you.
farg all of you. every single one of you lifeless, pathetic jizz eating funholes.
You missed Macho Harris who had one of the worst 1st quarters of football I've ever seen before getting hurt. He missed 4 tackles in the first quarter.
So bad.
macho harris deserves no hate imo
its not his fault he got put into this spot...he has no business being in an actual nfl game
he is a product of the eagles money train and not having brian dawkins...and once dawk was let go they didnt know where to turn....and when they did macho was the guy standing there
before we move on lets remember the top 5 donovan moments of the year
5. "We showed our youth."
4. im still not over his final drive against arizona or his 2 picks against new england, so there
3. the oakland game
2. the heart to heart with a seething jay cutler after squeaking by the bears
1. the air guitar, ass shake and glass hump before taking the field in dallas
can we finally stop the charade with Quinten Mikell? the dude is so overrated. can't cover and is a terrible tackler. the only reason he played over his head last year was because the eagles had this guy playing next him that simplified his job, what was his name??? oh yeah, dawkins.
Quote from: SunMo on January 10, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
can we finally stop the charade with Quinten Mikell? the dude is so overrated. can't cover and is a terrible tackler. the only reason he played over his head last year was because the eagles had this guy playing next him that simplified his job, what was his name??? oh yeah, dawkins.
Amen.
He was absolutely horrible. What a jerkoff.
Quote from: SunMo on January 10, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
can we finally stop the charade with Quinten Mikell? the dude is so overrated. can't cover and is a terrible tackler. the only reason he played over his head last year was because the eagles had this guy playing next him that simplified his job, what was his name??? oh yeah, dawkins.
amen
Quote from: SunMo on January 10, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
can we finally stop the charade with Quinten Mikell? the dude is so overrated. can't cover and is a terrible tackler. the only reason he played over his head last year was because the eagles had this guy playing next him that simplified his job, what was his name??? oh yeah, dawkins.
Exactly. I was just saying this last night. He's the most overrated player on the Eagles at this point. The only reason he looks passable is because of the slop that's put out opposite of him.
And igy I agree completely about Macho. He was horrible last night but it's the coaching staff's fault for having him in that position.
New sam lb, a MLB that won't blow if Bradley isn't completely healthy, a real fs, a ss to compete with mikell, a de who isn't undersized, some interior ol, vick to be thrown into the sun, a real punter, a cb who doesn't constantly get burned, a qb who can lead a reciever, and a 4th reciever. Is that too much to ask?
and a new coaching staff in a pear tree
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 10, 2010, 04:04:23 PM
and a new coaching staff in a pear tree
no pear tree in the world could support Reid
find a new coach. kind of my point. :)
I can't even imagine a rebuilding project right now.
If they fired Reid and hired Cowher and ran the ball and let McNabb pass from a pro set and focused on defense I could stomach it.
If they ditch McNabb and see what Kolb can do with these weapons, keeping the same scheme but running a little more I could stomach that.
But blowing it all up with some other coach or some other scheme with a whole new everything is more than I can farging take. So many years of this farging clowncar show and almost getting there and blah blah blah to just unhinge it all? With this roster? With such a low level of defensive talent? Christ. It brings tears to my eyes.
Also, I'm drunk and might disagree with myself tomorrow. Eat shtein.
revamp that f'ing pathetic LB corps
figure out the secondary besides Samuel
get a real punter, not a f'ing rugby-lovin Australian
tell p*ssy rap star to get his ass healthy for July
re-sign Weaver
trick someone into trading for Vick (hi Carolina)
get all the stupid ankle and knee surgeries done before June so you can participate in training camp
btw the Eagles have the #24 pick in the draft. Still too low for Taylor Mays unless they trade into the top 15-20 but there should be a few good LBs available...
The need LBs big time but they need a DE badly too. No one on that line can generate any pressure besides Cole.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 10, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
get a real punter, not a f'ing rugby-lovin Australian
oddly enough, he probably had the best game out of anyone on the team yesterday.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 10, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
revamp that f'ing pathetic LB corps
figure out the secondary besides Samuel
get a real punter, not a f'ing rugby-lovin Australian
tell p*ssy rap star to get his ass healthy for July
re-sign Weaver
trick someone into trading for Vick (hi Carolina)
get all the stupid ankle and knee surgeries done before June so you can participate in training camp
btw the Eagles have the #24 pick in the draft. Still too low for Taylor Mays unless they trade into the top 15-20 but there should be a few good LBs available...
Wait, wait, wait....besides Samuel? Fire his stupid ass too until he grows a set and learns to tackle. farg him, and the rest of these chumps.
Unless they draft Taylor Mays and/or Brandon Spikes I don't want to hear about it or think about it.
How many years have we seen this safety thing and called for them to draft somebody? They haven't had a legit safety to play with dawk since michael lewis. Instead of drafting a legit athelete in an early round we get late round picks or udfas like mikell, harris, gaddis, demps, or whoever the farg
I'll go further and say that it's time for a big change on this team and they should shop McNabb around and see what kind of draft picks they could get. I mean, Reid isn't going anywere, so imo, you need to shake this team up, big time. How long will Lurie and Reid continue with the same ole' same ole' and expect different results? I'm not pinning the woes of this team entirely on McNabb, but I've come to the conclusion that the Eagles well never win a Superbowl with him as this teams qb.
Quote from: shorebird on January 10, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
I'll go further and say that it's time for a big change on this team and they should shop McNabb around and see what kind of draft picks they could get. I mean, Reid isn't going anywere, so imo, you need to shake this team up, big time. How long will Lurie and Reid continue with the same ole' same ole' and expect different results? I'm not pinning the woes of this team entirely on McNabb, but I've come to the conclusion that the Eagles well never win a Superbowl with him as this teams qb.
They will never win with him as QB AND Reid as a coach.
Seperate the two and they'd both be better off. McNabb would benefit from a coach with ab etter game plan/commitment to the run....And Reid seems to call a more balanced game when he doesn't have 5 at the helm.
still delusionally stupid enough to believe mcnabb can win a superbowl.
no shock there.
RIF
on what earth is quinten mikell overrated...he has never been good...you have to be rated to be over
taylor mays cant play safety in this league imo...but draft him put 15-20 lbs on him and he could be a special linebacker
people saw mikell make plays as a gunner on punt coverage and automatically assumed he could cover people and make tackles in the open field
you know a guy is a special teams player his first 5 years in the league for a god damn reason
Actually thats what I was thinking about Mays. He's a gifted athlete. I think he'd make the transition smoothly.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 10, 2010, 07:16:45 PM
on what earth is quinten mikell overrated...he has never been good...you have to be rated to be over
taylor mays cant play safety in this league imo...but draft him put 15-20 lbs on him and he could be a special linebacker
Mikell was named 2nd team all pro last year, meaning he was one of the two best SS in football last year apparently. That's a weeeee bit overrated.
key word = apparently
Yea that's what I'm saying though. If you're 2nd team all pro you are rated pretty highly by the media. He certainly isn't that good.
i honestly have never heard his name ever mentioned by the national media...in fact im pretty sure most of them have no idea who he is
and second team all pro is meaningless...how many votes do you get to make second team...i think its literally like 1...so probably some moron like rich hoffman voted for him which made him "second team"
he's been touted as a pro-bowl caliber safety in every single farging game by the announcers. but yeah, a guy who has started at safety for 2 years in the nfl is totally anonymous the national media. they only know peyton manning and the dallas cowboys
As noted before this team does it to us every single year - Good start, poor games mid-season, hot December, January let down.
It is the same repeatable pattern every year.
As noted by others but my take:
-the Kolb era has to begin. Thank you Donovan, hell of a ride, but it's time.
(if we don't we'll probably lose him at some point to FA)
-other than the front four and rotational players everything behind them in garbage.
Eagles cannot play aggressive D unless there is strength behind the front four.
-Coaching...just don't know but there is a passion missing.
FARG DALLAS
If you guys want linebackers, I think McClain from Alabama or Weatherspoon from Missouri would be great. Like them both a lot. Florida has some nice linebackers and DEs too.
Quote from: SunMo on January 10, 2010, 07:45:31 PM
he's been touted as a pro-bowl caliber safety in every single farging game by the announcers. but yeah, a guy who has started at safety for 2 years in the nfl is totally anonymous the national media. they only know peyton manning and the dallas cowboys
lol
I think LDE is the top need.
1. LDE
2. LBs
3. FS
4. CB depth
However, I think they are going to stay with the LBs they've got.
If they don't upgrade the LBs, I may have to boycott like I am with hockey.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 10, 2010, 10:34:51 PMI think they are going to stay with the LBs they've got.
Bradley will be back but may not be 100%
Witherspoon should be back
Fokou and Mays will need to fight for their jobs in August
Gocong, Trotter, Gaither, White and Jordan are all FAs
They have to upgrade here. Have to. No excuses...
They have a lot of areas they need to upgrade and have no excuses not to. LDE being another. Safety being another. Offensive line should be one, but who the hell knows if they decide to rely on Shawn Andrews or not.
Relying on anyone named Andrews would be a stupid idea. So they'll probably do it.
Quote from: shorebird on January 10, 2010, 06:26:48 PM
Unless they draft Taylor Mays and/or Brandon Spikes I don't want to hear about it or think about it.
Now you're talking. I want to see Spikes in green and white gauging Romo's eyes out.
Quote from: King Cole on January 10, 2010, 10:54:56 PM
If they don't upgrade the LBs, I may have to boycott like I am with hockey.
i'll support you in your boycott endeavor as long as it means that you stay away from every and anything eagles related.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 11, 2010, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: King Cole on January 10, 2010, 10:54:56 PM
If they don't upgrade the LBs, I may have to boycott like I am with hockey.
i'll support you in your boycott endeavor as long as it means that you stay away from every and anything eagles related including :CF
thanks for spelling it out you dumb old farg.
i figured the agent orange finally got to you.
my bad.
carry on...
A.Q. Shipley, Camp Body Philadelphia Eagle
QuoteSpots 21-24 in the 2010 Draft is made of wild card round losers, while 25-28 is made of divisional round losers and so on. In the past, regular season record determined slot. (Until you made the Super Bowl.)
So without further adieu, the losing teams from this weekend will draft in the following spots.
21. Bengals
22. Patriots
23. Packers
24. Eagles
figures they're last of the four, I think based on strength of bed shteining. at 24 go for best punter available
what's witherspoon's contract status? one more year at a big number right? if (big if) they keep him, does he play SAM with Jordan at the WIL? that could possibly not be awful.
i think he has two years left at 5 mil per
witherspoon cant play sam
does he play wil then with jordan at the sam? i guess they will probably cut him because it will drive Joey crazy seeing such a big salary on this linebacker spreadsheet
id prefer to see neither at sam...i dont know enough about whether akeem san play the position tho...seems to me like witherspoon hed get abused at the point of attack
i know im in the minority but i wasnt impressed with jordan before his injury...imo him and witherpsoon (at this point of his career) are complementary players not frontline guys....
add some real talent at the position and then you can have a jordan or spoon at one spot...no one is asking for all three lb's to be all pros but we deserve better than what they have now
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
id prefer to see neither at sam...i dont know enough about whether akeem san play the position tho...seems to me like witherspoon hed get abused at the point of attack
i know im in the minority but i wasnt impressed with jordan before his injury...imo him and witherpsoon (at this point of his career) are complementary players not frontline guys....
add some real talent at the position and then you can have a jordan or spoon at one spot...no one is asking for all three lb's to be all pros but we deserve better than what they have now
well, that obviously isn't going to happen, we're just lucky that a 3rd round pick developed into a potential pro bowler.
and for him even if he doesnt get hurt again next year is basically waste
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 12, 2010, 02:51:12 AM
QuoteSpots 21-24 in the 2010 Draft is made of wild card round losers, while 25-28 is made of divisional round losers and so on. In the past, regular season record determined slot. (Until you made the Super Bowl.)
So without further adieu, the losing teams from this weekend will draft in the following spots.
21. Bengals
22. Patriots
23. Packers
24. Eagles
Will there be a MLB available at 24? Please.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 12, 2010, 02:51:12 AM
QuoteSpots 21-24 in the 2010 Draft is made of wild card round losers, while 25-28 is made of divisional round losers and so on. In the past, regular season record determined slot. (Until you made the Super Bowl.)
So without further adieu, the losing teams from this weekend will draft in the following spots.
21. Bengals
22. Patriots
23. Packers
24. Eagles
figures they're last of the four, I think based on strength of bed shteining. at 24 go for best punter available[/b][/size]
BYU must have the next Austin Collie out there.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
i think he has two years left at 5 mil per
witherspoon cant play sam
How long has Witherspoon been in the league? 6 months learning this shtein and a training camp under his belt he should be huge nest season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
id prefer to see neither at sam...i dont know enough about whether akeem san play the position tho...seems to me like witherspoon hed get abused at the point of attack
i know im in the minority but i wasnt impressed with jordan before his injury...imo him and witherpsoon (at this point of his career) are complementary players not frontline guys....
add some real talent at the position and then you can have a jordan or spoon at one spot...no one is asking for all three lb's to be all pros but we deserve better than what they have now
We don't "deserve" anything. They are a farging sports team.
I suggest you seek help with a pyschiatrist or pyschologist because your obsession with a sports team is really unhealthy. There's something very very sad about you.
DIAF
Quote from: Don Ho on January 13, 2010, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
i think he has two years left at 5 mil per
witherspoon cant play sam
How long has Witherspoon been in the league? 6 months learning this shtein and a training camp under his belt he should be huge nest season.
yeah, though actually he learned it for a few months under Spags in SL before the trade too.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 13, 2010, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
i think he has two years left at 5 mil per
witherspoon cant play sam
How long has Witherspoon been in the league? 6 months learning this shtein and a training camp under his belt he should be huge nest season.
The system isn't his problem. He gets run over by blockers on almost every play. Regardless of where he is positioned.
QB = Feeley
FB(/TE) = Kris Wilson
WR = TO, Finneran, G-Lew, Sean Morey
TE = LJ Smith
OL = Jeremy Bridges, Artis Hicks, Bobbie Williams
DE = Kearse, Burgess, Babin
DT = Hollis, Ian Scott
LB = Trotter, Tracy White, Matt Wilhelm
CB = Rod Hood, William James
S = Sean Jones, Matt Ware
P = Jeff Feagles, Mitch Berger
This almost-full starting lineup of Eagles rejects are all unrestricted FAs this offseason....ha
I'd bring back Rod Hood in a second. He's a really good nickel corner and certainly better than Hanson or Patterson.
if that post isnt easy in a nutshell, then i dont know what is
not enough MOCK though
QuoteBobbie Williams
Burgess,
Tracy White
Rod Hood
Sean Jones
Guys I wouldn't mind seeing back. I think White is a must sign.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 13, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
QuoteBobbie Williams
Burgess,
Tracy White
Rod Hood
Sean Jones
Guys I wouldn't mind seeing back. I think White is a must sign.
has burgess done anything outside of his 16 sack year in 05?
everyone else you named would definitely be welcomed back.
lol @ even you not wanting five fo back next year. now if we can just work on that mcnabb thing you got going on....
Love Trot, but they need some dudes who can play the run well and take kill shots. Trot can't do it any more. It was cool seeing him back this year though.
I plead the fifth on McNabb for fear of cranking up the ire of the anti crowd.
just drop the 4 off your name.
No thanks on Sean Jones and I was a proponent of bringing him here. The fact that he couldn't beat out Macho Harris, who proved definitively that he couldn't play safety over the course of the year, says all you need to know about the coaching staff's opinion of him.
Burgess only for depth. He isn't a starter anymore IMO. Hood, definitely yes. I'd bring back White I guess for depth.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 13, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
QuoteBobbie Williams
Burgess,
Tracy White
Rod Hood
Sean Jones
Guys I wouldn't mind seeing back. I think White is a must sign.
i dont care about tracy white either why im just curious as to why he is a must sign
Because of his play on STs and what he showed playing in the nickel. I think he's a valuable guy to have around, a better version of Ike Reese.
Calm down Phreak, Ike was a legit STer and nickel LB for quite a few years. Tracy White was like having one of the smartest retards this year, its not like he had much to compete with.
i like what i saw from white last year, but i wouldn't say he's a "must sign" nor would i say that he's better than ike was. at this point, given his youth, i would say he's a poor man's ike reese at the moment, but he's still young and can improve. ike reese, you may recall, wasn't really a fan favorite in the beginning. i remember him drawing several stupid penalties, usually of the 15 yard variety during his first couple seasons. i actually hated dude when he first came up.
I agree, and that's why I think they have to sign him. Because he's young enough to grow into that role of STs captain and valuable nickel guy. He'll be able to be had on the cheap side - so they have to sign him. No more letting good players leave. Keep what ya got and build it.
QuoteEagles nab Bobby April
Posted by Mike Florio on January 14, 2010 3:47 PM ET
As former Bills special teams coordinator Bobby April was being pursued by the likes of the Steelers and the taterskins, another candidate for his services was gliding under radar.
And that candidate landed his services.
The Eagles have announced that April has been hired to take over Philly's special teams. He replaces special teams coordinator Ted Daisher.
The fact that the Eagles didn't fire Daisher until they had the newest bird in the hand allowed them to chase April discreetly.
The Eagles also have terminated the contracts of strength and conditioning coach Mike Wolf and assistant strength and conditioning coach Jay Merlino.
That is a very underrated, solid move.
Daisher sucked. He was one of the reasons Rocca was stinking up the joint because Rocca was under direction to not lay into the punts with all he had, but rather punt directionally.
That is pretty big, he is one of the best ST coaches in the NFL.
Bleacher Report (http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/philadelphia-eagles-2010-free-agents-and-how-to-handle-each-player---bleacher-report) on what the Eagles do with their FA's:
Sean Jones - will be re-signed unless the Eagles get Atogwe or think they can draft Mays.
Trotter - Bye-bye.
Babin - Gone.
Tracy White - Signed. He's Ike Reese Part II.
Leonard Weaver - The #1 guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Jason Avant - The #1A guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Ellis Hobbs - Most likely gone, unless there isn't a market for him.
Nick Cole - Only if the Eagles get him cheap, otherwise let him walk.
Alex Smith - Gone.
Gaither - See ya.
Max Jean-Gilles - Adios.
Chris Gocong - 50/50 shot at staying or going. Back as a back up, but nothing more.
Sav Rocca - Likely will stay. How much of a market is there for punters?
Akeem Jordan - Probably will be back.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
That is a very underrated, solid move.
Daisher sucked. He was one of the reasons Rocca was stinking up the joint because Rocca was under direction to not lay into the punts with all he had, but rather punt directionally.
I wouldnt make excuses for friggin sav rocca. the reason he was stinking up the joint is because he is very average. Sure he'll have the occasional solid punt, but he lacks consistency in a big way....and it always seems he f's up at the worst time.
I mean how many times was there a need for a directional kick if there is no superstar back there returning the punt?
Quote from: reese125 on January 14, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
That is a very underrated, solid move.
Daisher sucked. He was one of the reasons Rocca was stinking up the joint because Rocca was under direction to not lay into the punts with all he had, but rather punt directionally.
I wouldnt make excuses for friggin sav rocca. the reason he was stinking up the joint is because he is very average. Sure he'll have the occasional solid punt, but he lacks consistency in a big way....and it always seems he f's up at the worst time.
I mean how many times was there a need for a directional kick if there is no superstar back there returning the punt?
Some dude that writes for a living says this:
QuoteRocca was very inconsistent all season long, but he did seem to pick it up near the end. It seemed like Ted Daisher, the Eagles' special teams coordinator, was trying to refine his kicking too much and only made it worse. Rocca seemed to be going through the motions like a robot, rather than just booting the ball as he did in his first season in Philly.
Towards the end of the season, it looks like someone figured that out and allowed him to go back to whatever he was doing before. He was consistently punting the ball over 50 yards and helping the Eagles win the field position battle. In fact, were it not for him, the Cowboys may have made those last two weeks far more humiliating with better field position.
Thanks to him, however, they only beat the Birds by a combined score of 58-14.
yeah...thanks for getting better field position sav.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 14, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Bleacher Report (http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/philadelphia-eagles-2010-free-agents-and-how-to-handle-each-player---bleacher-report) on what the Eagles do with their FA's:
Sean Jones - will be re-signed unless the Eagles get Atogwe or think they can draft Mays.
Trotter - Bye-bye.
Babin - Gone.
Tracy White - Signed. He's Ike Reese Part II.
Leonard Weaver - The #1 guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Jason Avant - The #1A guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Ellis Hobbs - Most likely gone, unless there isn't a market for him.
Nick Cole - Only if the Eagles get him cheap, otherwise let him walk.
Alex Smith - Gone.
Gaither - See ya.
Max Jean-Gilles - Adios.
Chris Gocong - 50/50 shot at staying or going. Back as a back up, but nothing more.
Sav Rocca - Likely will stay. How much of a market is there for punters?
Akeem Jordan - Probably will be back.
The only people that I care to see them resign on that list are Avant and Weaver. Everybody else doesn't really matter.
re: bobby april
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 14, 2010, 04:57:32 PM
That is pretty big, he is one of the best ST coaches in the NFL.
agree. i heard a rumor about it the other day but there was no follow up on it so i quickly dismissed it as just a rumor.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 14, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Bleacher Report (http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/philadelphia-eagles-2010-free-agents-and-how-to-handle-each-player---bleacher-report) on what the Eagles do with their FA's:
Sean Jones - will be re-signed unless the Eagles get Atogwe or think they can draft Mays.
Trotter - Bye-bye.
Babin - Gone.
Tracy White - Signed. He's Ike Reese Part II.
Leonard Weaver - The #1 guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Jason Avant - The #1A guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Ellis Hobbs - Most likely gone, unless there isn't a market for him.
Nick Cole - Only if the Eagles get him cheap, otherwise let him walk.
Alex Smith - Gone.
Gaither - See ya.
Max Jean-Gilles - Adios.
Chris Gocong - 50/50 shot at staying or going. Back as a back up, but nothing more.
Sav Rocca - Likely will stay. How much of a market is there for punters?
Akeem Jordan - Probably will be back.
weaver probably should be priority number 1 but at the same time, it would seem to make sense for avant to take priority in reid's eyes because he loves the pass. yes, i'm splitting hairs here. eat it.
They just said on CSN Philly that the Eagles have approached Weaver's agent about a potential 5 year deal.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 14, 2010, 06:16:21 PM
They just said on CSN Philly that the Eagles have approached Weaver's agent about a potential 5 year deal.
nice.
I won't believe it until I see it. Until then, I'm assuming Weaver and Avant are gone.
worst case scenario they sign with another team and we get draft picks. They are both restricted.
oh, well if that's the worst case scenario, then who gives a shtein, right? it's not like they're any good.
I like getting really high draft picks for fullbacks and slot recievers, so yes as long as the Eagles tender them high enough than I really don't give a shtein what happens after that.
avant is arguably expendable, although i wouldn't argue it since dude is money, especially on 3rd down. and no one ever sees the value of a solid, well rounded fullback. until you don't have one. neither one of those guys are household names and probably never will be, but i'd take them over unproven draft picks any day of the week. especially weaver. exactly how many good fullbacks has he ever drafted?
...or how many fullbacks has he ever used? Westbrook may have lasted a few more seasons if he was running behind a fullback a number of those years...but nooooo lets have him get plastered by the first hit cause of the empty backfield allowing reid an extra na brown or two in the play.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on January 14, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
worst case scenario they sign with another team and we get draft picks. They are both restricted.
how the farg is a guy going into his 6th professional season restricted? do you have any idea how it works?
It has to do with the CBA running out, if there isn't a new one he will be.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 14, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Bleacher Report (http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/philadelphia-eagles-2010-free-agents-and-how-to-handle-each-player---bleacher-report) on what the Eagles do with their FA's:
Sean Jones - will be re-signed unless the Eagles get Atogwe or think they can draft Mays.
Trotter - Bye-bye.
Babin - Gone.
Tracy White - Signed. He's Ike Reese Part II.
Leonard Weaver - The #1 guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Jason Avant - The #1A guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Ellis Hobbs - Most likely gone, unless there isn't a market for him.
Nick Cole - Only if the Eagles get him cheap, otherwise let him walk.
Alex Smith - Gone.
Gaither - See ya.
Max Jean-Gilles - Adios.
Chris Gocong - 50/50 shot at staying or going. Back as a back up, but nothing more.
Sav Rocca - Likely will stay. How much of a market is there for punters?
Akeem Jordan - Probably will be back.
My opinion:
Sean Jones - bring him back for depth or to push Quintin Mikell at SS. Jones is way better in the box. Gotta go after a big time FS, ATogwe would be awesome.
Trot - love ya, but they need studs at LB
Babin - Don't care, depth if anything. Go after Peppers.
White - Sign him
Weaver - must sign
Avant - must sign
Hobbs - sign him; his KOR ability is sorely needed
Cole - agree, only sign him on the cheap, good depth
Alex Smith - beat it
Gaither - bye
MJG - get out
Gocong - STs and depth only
Rocca - bring him back. After being a hater for the most part of the year and then finding out that it was Daisher who was limiting him, I want to see him get a shot learning under April.
Jordan - bring him back
Like it or not, with the Andrews brothers being busts and Jamaal Jackson coming back from a torn knee....MJG needs to stay. He's an at his best average guy who knows the system....who the hell is behind him? anybody?
Quote from: Dillen on January 14, 2010, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on January 14, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
worst case scenario they sign with another team and we get draft picks. They are both restricted.
how the farg is a guy going into his 6th professional season restricted? do you have any idea how it works?
if 2010 remains an uncapped year, it will then take 6 years instead of 4 to become an unrestricted FA. The others become restricted FAs.
another part of the uncapped year structure is the final eight rule which puts restrictions on the final 8 teams in the playoffs signing FAs, and even more restrictions on the final four teams. The Eagles won't have those restrictions but jerruh will, so he won't be able to go out on a spending spree in the uncapped year (if they lose this week they could get 1 FA at a salary of about $5 mil per year, and only if they lose a FA at around the same salary).
IMO it looks more likely the owners have more to gain by an uncapped year in 2010 and it is more likely than not to happen.
Gocong will probably go to a 3-4 team that will let him rush the passer. I could see the Chargers being interested.
Quote from: King Cole on January 14, 2010, 11:25:57 PM
Gocong will probably go to a 3-4 team that will let him rush the passer. I could see the Chargers being interested.
Where of course he'll go off being at his natural position and getting a shtein load of sacks.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2010, 10:38:18 PM
Rocca - bring him back. After being a hater for the most part of the year and then finding out that it was Daisher who was limiting him, I want to see him get a shot learning under April.
Even if that's true, he wasn't completely bad. Tied for 9th for punts inside the 20. 16th for net average. Nothing special, but he could put it out of the back of the endzone every time if he wanted.
Quote from: Dillen on January 14, 2010, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: mpmcgraw on January 14, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
worst case scenario they sign with another team and we get draft picks. They are both restricted.
how the farg is a guy going into his 6th professional season restricted? do you have any idea how it works?
Yes I do. He's restricted.
not sure if this was posted elsewhere but....
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100115_Eagles_replace_special-teams_coach_Daisher_with_April.html
Hahaha. Mock.
sorry....deserved
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 14, 2010, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on January 14, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Bleacher Report (http://vyous.com/sports/nfl/eagles/2010/01/14/philadelphia-eagles-2010-free-agents-and-how-to-handle-each-player---bleacher-report) on what the Eagles do with their FA's:
Sean Jones - will be re-signed unless the Eagles get Atogwe or think they can draft Mays.
Trotter - Bye-bye.
Babin - Gone.
Tracy White - Signed. He's Ike Reese Part II.
Leonard Weaver - The #1 guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Jason Avant - The #1A guy the Eagles should be re-signing.
Ellis Hobbs - Most likely gone, unless there isn't a market for him.
Nick Cole - Only if the Eagles get him cheap, otherwise let him walk.
Alex Smith - Gone.
Gaither - See ya.
Max Jean-Gilles - Adios.
Chris Gocong - 50/50 shot at staying or going. Back as a back up, but nothing more.
Sav Rocca - Likely will stay. How much of a market is there for punters?
Akeem Jordan - Probably will be back.
My opinion:
Sean Jones - bring him back for depth or to push Quintin Mikell at SS. Jones is way better in the box. Gotta go after a big time FS, ATogwe would be awesome.
Trot - love ya, but they need studs at LB
Babin - Don't care, depth if anything. Go after Peppers.
White - Sign him
Weaver - must sign
Avant - must sign
Hobbs - sign him; his KOR ability is sorely needed
Cole - agree, only sign him on the cheap, good depth
Alex Smith - beat it
Gaither - bye
MJG - get out
Gocong - STs and depth only
Rocca - bring him back. After being a hater for the most part of the year and then finding out that it was Daisher who was limiting him, I want to see him get a shot learning under April.
Jordan - bring him back
No doubt. Every time Macho returned a kick I expected a fumble - dook just holds the ball so far away from his body. And what the farg was up with Buckley not letting Maclin return any kick?
because he knew that Maclin was scared as shtein to get drilled
Yeah, Maclin didn't exactly light world on fire when he did actually return kicks...
DGunn covered this team every week for the last 6 months and thinks a big WR is their #1 priority?
Didinger says LDE, safety and a playmaking OLB are the highest priority, but he thinks this will be Kolb's team now...
the only "priority" they should have when it comes to receivers is re-signing avant and then getting him on the field more often.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
the only "priority" they should have when it comes to receivers is re-signing avant and then getting him on the field more often.
No it should be bringing in a new kick arse Defensive coordinator to actually replace JJ and really stand shoulder to shoulder with Reid.
They need a new philosophy that teams have not deciphered. This guy did a laudable job in his first year but every team in the league knows that all you need is a savy vet Qb that can get the ball out of his hands quickly and you can simply discect this defense.
True but the system worked better with Dawk.....the system could still work with a playmaker at safety...and as already mentioned upgrades at OLB and LDE would be a big help too.
Abiamiri looked pretty good this year but he seemed to wear down getting moved to the middle so much on passing downs.
Quote from: Displaced on January 17, 2010, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
the only "priority" they should have when it comes to receivers is re-signing avant and then getting him on the field more often.
No it should be bringing in a new kick arse Defensive coordinator to actually replace JJ and really stand shoulder to shoulder with Reid.
They need a new philosophy that teams have not deciphered. This guy did a laudable job in his first year but every team in the league knows that all you need is a savy vet Qb that can get the ball out of his hands quickly and you can simply discect this defense.
ok. but what does that have to do with receivers? read easy's post above mine and you'll be able to put 2 and 2 together.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2010, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: Displaced on January 17, 2010, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 17, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
the only "priority" they should have when it comes to receivers is re-signing avant and then getting him on the field more often.
No it should be bringing in a new kick arse Defensive coordinator to actually replace JJ and really stand shoulder to shoulder with Reid.
They need a new philosophy that teams have not deciphered. This guy did a laudable job in his first year but every team in the league knows that all you need is a savy vet Qb that can get the ball out of his hands quickly and you can simply discect this defense.
Yeah I was kinda saying no to both premises. Since you were responding to him I figured two and two to have already been put together.
Unless they are gonna get Jackson from San Diego or the knucklehead from Denver I would rather see them put an all world D-coordinator in there tocompletely re-work the defense.
ok. but what does that have to do with receivers? read easy's post above mine and you'll be able to put 2 and 2 together.
Martell Mallett, CFL Rookie of the Year, Philadelphia Eagle (http://www.bclions.com/roster/show/id/2631)
Dude came from a tiny, tiny school, so it's no shock he didn't get looked at by the NFL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJEbb-pIvH4
Granted, it's against some CFL scrubs, but he shows some pretty awesome vision on cutbacks and looks like he has a pretty good burst.
caught from behind by a white guy--cut
Quote from: reese125 on January 19, 2010, 10:33:20 PM
caught from behind by a white guy--cut
the white guy was munson, though.
Catching black people from behind sucks.
You'll never be a cop with that attitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tNfBCN2AoY
Here's his whip... Nasty
Quote from: General_Failure on January 19, 2010, 11:24:01 PM
You'll never be a cop with that attitude.
I think he meant anally
QuoteEagles' Jon Dorenbos added to Pro Bowl
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 20, 2010 10:12 AM ET
Philadelphia Eagles long snapper Jon Dorenbos has been added to the NFC Pro Bowl roster, making him the seventh member of the Eagles selected to this year's Pro Bowl.
Pro Bowl coaches are allowed to add two "need" players, one of whom is typically a long snapper, and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips picked Dorenbos to handle the long snapping for the NFC squad that Phillips will coach. After Chargers coach Norv Turner picked Raiders long snapper Jon Condo, it's noteworthy that both Pro Bowl coaches picked a player on a division rival.
This is the first Pro Bowl berth of Dorenbos's eight-year NFL career.
The Eagles are expected to get at least one more spot on the Pro Bowl roster, with quarterback Donovan McNabb replacing either Saints quarterback Drew Brees or Vikings quarterback Brett Favre, whoever can't play in the Pro Bowl because he'll be playing in the Super Bowl a week later.
McNabb to the probowl? Now maybe they'll get three first round picks, an all-pro linebacker and seven blowjobs when they trade him! Yay!
rumors flying around that bill cowher is in town, that a presser is set for 5pm and that the novacare is in shambles right now
what the farg
wtf are you talking about?
also, the "rumors" headline on espn insider says mcnabb to the rams.
Bill Cower is AT the NOVACARE Center?
Quote from: KDS on January 20, 2010, 02:05:06 PM
rumors flying around that bill cowher is in town, that a presser is set for 5pm and that the novacare is in shambles right now
what the farg
ha
Yeah with Todds half assed attempts at humor who knows what to make of that post.
has anyone talked to the limo driver?
Quote from: KDS on January 20, 2010, 02:05:06 PM
rumors flying around that bill cowher is in town, that a presser is set for 5pm and that the novacare is in shambles right now
what the farg
I don't believe for a second that this is true, but I'm rooting for unprecedented chaos. At all levels of the organization. Anything to cure the crushing boredom of the offseason.
Quote from: SunMo on January 20, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
Yeah with Todds half assed attempts at humor who knows what to make of that post.
that's what i'm leaning towards as well. especially since i've checked a few websites and haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. farging jew bastich.
haha am i playing you or not will we ever know
Yes, we'll know at 5pm when nothing happens and we all call you a jew liar (redundant).
Quote from: SunMo on January 20, 2010, 02:47:27 PM
Yes, we'll know at 5pm when nothing happens and we all call you a jew liar (redundant).
:-D
i saw some random chatter from various orifices of the internets and figured it was worth a random jab on a lame internet message board
sue me
I will, you gave me hope
make sure you mouth is off mike richards cock before the court date
Make sure you get a shower at camp
I guess the PC is just starting late??
Kiper's first mock has the Eagles taking Navorro Bowman one spot after Taylor Mays
DEAL
diddy dropping knowledge for the off-season and couldnt be more spot on.
the thought of moving bradley out to sam and grabbing a MLB sounds great, but I think bradley in coverage after this injury might be too big of a risk though
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing?Repair-Shop-Which-Free-Agents-Fit-For-Ea=1&blockID=123665&feedID=2227 (http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing?Repair-Shop-Which-Free-Agents-Fit-For-Ea=1&blockID=123665&feedID=2227)
Didn't the Mark Simaneau project teach anybody anything?
If they keep Witherspoon around to play WIL, even him and a returning from injury Bradley would be better than what hey had last year.
Quote from: reese125 on January 22, 2010, 03:22:02 PM
the thought of moving bradley out to sam and grabbing a MLB sounds great, but I think bradley in coverage after this injury might be too big of a risk though
That was my thought too. Diddy goes on about how bad they were against TEs then suggests moving Bradley to SAM as an option, when coverage was his weak suit. The Eagles should draft Sean Weatherspoon from Missouri, and make Bradley change his last name if he wants to start.
QuoteDavid Jacobs said he supplied Vick with steroids
Posted by Mike Florio on January 23, 2010 11:01 AM ET
The name David Jacobs might not initially ring many bells. He's the convicted steroids dealer from Plano, Texas, who was sharing information with the NFL regarding steroids users until he committed suicide.
By shooting himself.
Twice.
The Dallas Morning News reports that, before Jacobs died, he told the News that he was Mike Vick's steroids supplier during Vick's tenure with the Falcons.
Jacobs' death occurred which Vick was serving time in Kansas for dogfighting and gambling.
The News squatted on this information because authorities declined to confirm that Vick was part of the investigation. But the News has now opted to publish the allegation based on recently-released documents from the DEA connecting Vick to steroids.
The evidence comes from the Falcons' 2006 Christmas party. Per the News, details that were supplied by an informant to the DEA "are similar" to the things Jacobs told the News before he died.
The league at one point expressed an intention to suspend linebacker Ryan Fowler for four games based on information provided by Jacobs before his death. Fowler appealed, and the case has since been dormant. The News reports that Fowler's attorney has heard nothing, and that he assumes the matter is closed.
Wow, didn't think the Eagles would be able to get anything in a trade with Vick, but this doesn't help the prospect (unless it was more widely known in football circles).
It might not be so bad. He probably gave the steroids to his dogs.
eagles only spent 1.2 mil on him this year so it's not like they were heavily invested in him anyway. but this def drops his value even more...if thats possible. worst case scenario is they release him and get nothing in return, which is about all they got from in on the field anyway. so i guess it's all even steven.
He has a $1.5 million roster bonus due 3/5 and would make $5.25 million total for 2010, so there's no way the Eagles keep him. And it's almost as unlikely anyone would want to trade for that salary, unless maybe they are senile and have brains and vital organs riddled with parasitic worms. If a team wanted him, they probably know they would have little or no competition so may as well get him as a FA.
QuoteEagles assistant Brian Stewart goes back to college
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 25, 2010 6:39 PM ET
Philadelphia Eagles assistant coach Brian Stewart has left the team to become the defensive coordinator at the University of Houston, the team announced today.
Stewart spent the 2009 season in Philadelphia after spending the previous two seasons as defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys.
well, at least he was able to bring over the cowboys playbook to help prepare the team.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 23, 2010, 10:54:00 PM
He has a $1.5 million roster bonus due 3/5 and would make $5.25 million total for 2010, so there's no way the Eagles keep him. And it's almost as unlikely anyone would want to trade for that salary, unless maybe they are senile and have brains and vital organs riddled with parasitic worms. If a team wanted him, they probably know they would have little or no competition so may as well get him as a FA.
Um, it doesn't matter? isn't it going to be an uncapped year?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 25, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 23, 2010, 10:54:00 PM
He has a $1.5 million roster bonus due 3/5 and would make $5.25 million total for 2010, so there's no way the Eagles keep him. And it's almost as unlikely anyone would want to trade for that salary, unless maybe they are senile and have brains and vital organs riddled with parasitic worms. If a team wanted him, they probably know they would have little or no competition so may as well get him as a FA.
Um, it doesn't matter? isn't it going to be an uncapped year?
What doesn't matter? - Not sure I follow. It's not known if it will be an uncapped year though I think it seems likely.
As far as the Eagles, the $5.25 isn't so much a cap issue, they usually have a good bit of room anyway (and if not they can create it, like when then they hit their limit and re-did some contracts to sign Curtis in '07). It's more that the team won't want to spend that much on a backup qb (assuming McNabb is still here), unless somehow ARs manlove for Vick > Howie and Joe's boners for dollars.
whether there is a cap or not means squat to the eagles...they are going to pay people what they think they are worth no matter what
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 08:05:18 AM
whether there is a cap or not means squat to the eagles...they are going to pay people what they think they are worth no matter what
yep, which is why an uncapped year will be a good thing for every team in the division except the eagles.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 26, 2010, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 08:05:18 AM
whether there is a cap or not means squat to the eagles...they are going to pay people what they think they are worth no matter what
yep, which is why an uncapped year will be a good thing for every team in the division except the eagles.
I actually see it as being almost the opposite. dallas will be very restricted in signing FAs because of the final eight rule. Snyder may not spend as much as people think and if he does it will be on glitzy players who will suck, and the giants are typically conservative. The Eagles on the other hand will freely outspend every other team in the NFL for a top FA they covet (i.e. at a prime position like DE, WR, CB, QB, OT - like Kearse, Samuel, Peters, the Moss offer).
the eagles wont freely outspend everyone in an uncapped year
they sometimes outspend with a cap because they are always under it thus their competition is severly limited
that said the uncapped year is mostly hype because of the rules that will be in place that will cause the market to be bare bones
it helps a team like the skins the most because they can freely cut all their dead weight without any cap ramifications and they will be a huge player for any guys that do make the open market
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
the eagles wont freely outspend everyone in an uncapped year
they sometimes outspend with a cap because they are always under it thus their competition is severly limited
that said the uncapped year is mostly hype because of the rules that will be in place that will cause the market to be bare bones
it helps a team like the skins the most because they can freely cut all their dead weight without any cap ramifications and they will be a huge player for any guys that do make the open market
I didn't say the Eagles will freely outspend everyone, but they will on a top FA they covet. If they go for one or two top guys, they have a very good chance of out doing the other teams in the division.
that i do agree with. even though they aren't big spenders every year, they have shown that they will spend money on the best guys in the business .....except linebackers.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 26, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
I didn't say the Eagles will freely outspend everyone, but they will on a top FA they covet.
and i disagree
going hard and quick after a guy you covet against very little if any competition is one thing....going after a guy you covet versus 25 other teams is another story
It's going to be interesting to see their approach. I hope there is a CBA, but its highly unlikely.
It's easy to say that they spend a lot when they have a cap master creating and exploiting loopholes and pushing money around. But when there is no cap, will Lurie write those huge checks?
He talks game about spending, so lets see if he's full of shtein or not.
Alternatively, with there being no salary floor combined with teams in the Final Eight not really being able to go after guys, this windfall of cash that some expect to be had may not be out there.
The Bucs, and teams like them, could end up having like $30M rosters.
the eagles financial situation is a lot different than the cowboys or taterskins. their debt load is enormous since lurie is still paying back the loans he took out to buy the team and build the stadium. it's not like they have an open checkbook to outbid jerrah & danny.
I think jerruh is in a hell of a lot more in debt than Lurie.
hes also paying off that debt and stacking chedder at a clip jeffy could only dream of
not to mention hes far wealthier than jeffy ever will be and always has been
jerruh's also bearing a lot more risk. if the team tanks and misses the playoffs again for another 2 or 3 years I'll bet he'll be hurt much more than Lurie would.
you vastly underestimate how wealthy jerry jones is...he had more money when he entered the nfl than lurie does now
He's hardly worth any more than his new Mega-Toilet. If NFL revenues go down 10% he's going to feel it a lot more than Lurie.
yeah, not too sure about Jerry Jones hurting anywhere no matter the outcome of a seasons loss....hes ridiculously paid
dude jumped up 29% in one year in the forbes rankings at 1.8 bill, and rather than pocket revenue from the frachise seat licensing, he used the proceeds to pay down 425mill in debt. he'll be just fine, and Id take him as an owner any day of the week--minus the pickup of Roy Williams
Quote from: reese125 on January 26, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
Id take him as an owner any day of the week--minus the pickup of Roy Williams
and pacman jones. and t.o. and drafting quincy carter in the 2nd round. and hiring barry switzer, chan gailey and wade phillips.
all teams bad or worse player acquisitions and while those coaching hires are awful he did hired bill parcells and jimmy johnson
he also fired them.
and won superbowls
not to mention he didnt fire either did he...i know johnson left mutually cause they couldnt get along...and i cant remember for sure but didnt parcells resign?
and went 13 years between playoff wins.
ill take the nfl titles over the salary cap titles but thats just me
how about 1 playoff win in the last decade vs 10
i still take the titles everytime
plus theres no guarantee that in the next twenty years jj wont win more superbowls than lurie
and of course hes already +3 in that category
you dont trade jeffy for jj for the next 20 years if it emant that the eagles had three bowls in the last twenty years??
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 26, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
how about 1 playoff win in the last decade vs 10
while the eagles have obviously had more success over the last 10 years than dallas, those playoff wins are pretty meaningless at this point without at least 1 championship.
no team can be good/great all the time and it's only natural to have "down years" but one thing i'll give dallas credit for is that when the super bowl window was open, they took full advantage. the eagles on the other hand, had the benefit of being a suprerior team in a weak conference and could only get to the big game one time.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 26, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
no team can be good/great all the time and it's only natural to have "down years" but one thing i'll give dallas credit for is that when the super bowl window was open, they took full advantage.
while overall i like lurie better than jj that is what scares me the most about lurie and what puts jj over the top
when the eagles have a good to very good team for them to win a title they still need every last little thing to fall into place...because they arent going to veer off course to strengthen their chances beyond that
where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win
The problem with that line of thinking is that Jerry Jones hasn't shown in a long, long time, he's capable of picking the right thing(s) to put it over the top. He's been missing horribly the last few years too. Not for lack of effort though.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 26, 2010, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win
The problem with that line of thinking is that Jerry Jones hasn't shown in a long, long time, he's capable of picking the right thing(s) to put it over the top. He's been missing horribly the last few years too. Not for lack of effort though.
which leads us to jerrah's biggest problem.....control. jimmy johnson was the architect of dallas' 3 super bowls. jerrah just needed to write the checks, sit back and watch. but he wants to be involved. he fired johnson, hired switzer and the cowboys won a superbowl with the team that jj put together. then jerrah started playing talent evaluator and the cowboys sucked. then in the middle of this decade he made a smart move and hired parcells who is probably the best talent evaluator in football ever. but then he and jerrah broke up and wade phillips took the team that parcells built and went 13-3 with it but because he's wade phillips, couldn't win a playoff game. now jerrah's calling the shots again and dallas has been back on the decline. when jerrah is heavily involved in personnel decisions, the cowboys have basically been an average/above avg team at best.
i think they got a little lucky with their success in 2009, but even if they are legit as is right now, i'm sure that jerrah will find a way to farg it up somehow because he doesn't have a true football guy guiding him in the right direction.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 26, 2010, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 26, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win
The problem with that line of thinking is that Jerry Jones hasn't shown in a long, long time, he's capable of picking the right thing(s) to put it over the top. He's been missing horribly the last few years too. Not for lack of effort though.
this is true...they have been pretty bad the second half of his tenure as owner...but jeffy has NEVER done it
if you take the next ten years as a window i have absolutely no more confidence in jeffy to win a sb than i do jerry...and id probably even give the edge to jerry
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Jason La Canfora
Vick likely to have many suitors in 2010
Posted: January 27th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Michael Vick, Oakland Raiders, Philadelphia Eagles, St. Louis Rams
As I detailed when QB Michael Vick signed with the Eagles, this was always set up to be a one-year marriage, as by the very nature of the contract. The Eagles won't be picking up the big contract option for 2010, according to sources, or at least do not plan to. They will explore trade options for Vick during the window they have to do so in March before deciding whether or not to pick up his option.
Sources close to Vick fully anticipate him playing elsewhere in 2010, and say he is intent on being a starter if at all possible. Such opportunities should arise. Clubs to keep a close eye on include Buffalo, St. Louis, Carolina, Oakland and Jacksonville. Those teams are in the market for QB help, and many have struggled to sell tickets and attract attention in recent years, with their smaller-market status.
Vick's cause will be helped as well by the weak free-agent class of quarterbacks — Daunte Culpepper could be the class of that group, for instance — as well as an upcoming draft without prospects who seem ready to play right away. Whether teams opt to wade in heavily for Vick on the trade market remains to be seen, but if he hit the market as a free agent, league sources expect at least a half-dozen or so teams to have legitimate interest.
I'd be surprised to see the Eagles get anything significant for him, but Canfora did raise a good point that Culpepper will be the best UFA QB out there, which could change things. Also doesn't seem to be a very good QB class coming into the draft so that helps the chances.
the biggest thing this season did for vick was to wash away much of the PR mess that comes with acquiring him...now any team that gets him doesnt have to deal with any uproar...he wont of course just be another guy but hes definitely more attractive now in that aspect...
which brings up the biggest factor in other teams being willing to give up something of significance for him and that as the article mentioned is the ticket sale and spotlight factor....this is where i see carolina as a big time dark horse because vick is beloved in the south
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Eagles GM-to-be Roseman is on a fast rise
By Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writer
MOBILE, Ala. - Howie Roseman's meteoritic rise in the Eagles' front office hasn't quite made him what an NFL official jokingly mistook him for yesterday.
"Are you the owner of the team?" Roseman was asked during practices at the Senior Bowl.
For now, at least, Roseman is the Eagles' vice president of player personnel, although that is about to change. A team source confirmed what had been reported as all but certain: The 34-year-old will be the team's next general manager.
While that title gives many GMs authority in personnel matters, Roseman will report to Eagles head coach Andy Reid. But Reid has not and will not attend this year's Senior Bowl practices, so Roseman was the highest-ranking official to represent the Eagles' front office here.
He would not comment on the promotion, although an announcement is expected when the Eagles' contingent returns from the Senior Bowl. As far as the NFL community is concerned, Roseman is already in charge.
"He's obviously their guy," one NFL general manager said. "He knows his stuff. It's not like the Eagles are promoting some guy off the street. He's become more involved in personnel matters and looks to have a keen eye for talent."
Roseman, who got his start with the Eagles 10 years ago as a salary-cap analyst, switched to the football side and worked his way up to ladder. Last May, he was named VP of player personnel and continued to work closely with then-GM Tom Heckert.
Heckert, though, left the Eagles earlier this month to take the GM job in Cleveland under new team president Mike Holmgren. That left the door open for Roseman, who had become more involved in talent evaluation and personnel decisions. If Roseman is not the GM in name yet, he looked like one yesterday, hobnobbing with agents, coaches and GMs.
True to the form of a GM, Roseman would not reveal his cards when it came to the Eagles' off-season needs and how they will address those needs in the draft.
"I think it's so early in the off-season to get into the draft," Roseman said. "Right now you're just looking at talent and trying to get your board right, trying to get your ducks in a row as you go through the off-season process. I don't think really you can put yourself in a position . . . where you limit yourself."
The Eagles spent the week after the season ended with the playoff loss in Dallas evaluating the entire team, both players and coaches. They took the next week off and starting this week began looking seriously at roster changes.
Roseman was asked if the team learned anything watching the rest of the playoffs and from how New Orleans and Indianapolis went about reaching the Super Bowl.
"I see the talent level on those teams," Roseman said. "It's very high, obviously, on both sides of the ball. I think that's important. It goes back to great coaching, and we have to make sure our talent level is real high."
As the team moves toward the draft, the Senior Bowl is an important tool for coaches and talent evaluators. Eagles offensive coordinator Sean McDermott, here for the third time, said the three days of workouts let coaches see much more than what can be put on film.
"If you can get close to them, you can see the look in their eyes after getting beat or making a great play or watch them interact in between plays," McDermott said.
Like most, the first-year coordinator spent yesterday watching practice from the stands at Ladd-Peebles Stadium. He was planning to get an Eagles scout's field passes for today's final sessions.
Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg coached in the Senior Bowl when he was in Detroit. The Lions' and Dolphins' staffs are handling coaching duties this year.
"It's an advantage," Mornhinweg said. "When I did it there was a player that went about his business in a way that I knew I wouldn't want him as my football player. And there were players that I came away more impressed with because of how they practiced."
New coach to come. The Eagles will begin their search for a replacement for defensive backs coach Brian Stewart after the Senior Bowl, according to a team source.
Michael Zordich, who was a coaching intern last year but did hands-on coaching, is a candidate. His lack of NFL coaching experience could hurt his chances, however.
Stewart left to become the defensive coordinator at the University of Houston.
I hope Zordich gets the job. They need somebody to teach the DBs how to tape a paper cup full of ice to their shoulder after a game.
Didn't realize McDermott has the OC job. At least it didn't go to Roseman.
QuotePhiladelphia Eagles announced that they have named Barry Rubin head strength and conditioning coach and Ken Croner assistant strength and conditioning coach.
I'm thinking Barry Rubin is Paul Rubin's (Pee Wee Herman's) brother or Howie Roseman's brother in law.
Edit: Pee Wee Herman is Paul Reubens. Must be the latter.
how does a jew get a strength and conditioning job...they are like the weakest people on the planet
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2010, 11:38:13 AM
how does a jew get a strength and conditioning job...they are like the weakest people on the planet
Minus Bill Goldberg
Quote12. Philadelphia Eagles
Last Title: 1960.
Last Truly Devastating Defeat: 2008 NFC title game (to Arizona).
Rock Bottom: Donovan McNabb throwing up during the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XXXIX.
Mitigating Factor: The Phillies' 2008 title knocked the Eagles down a few spots. At least the people of Philly know God isn't against their city now. Or, they're reasonably sure.
Additional Thoughts: It's unclear whether Eagles fans could have a Level 1 loss at this point since they keep their guard up at all times. (I watched it firsthand in Jacksonville during Super Bowl XXXIX: As soon as things went wrong in the second quarter, they checked out.) Eagles fans are like those premade dinner bowls from Uncle Ben's or Healthy Choice -- just cut the top, microwave for three minutes and you have a bowl of bitter. Switch McNabb for Favre this past Sunday, and Eagles fans absolutely would have been waiting for that interception to be thrown. To rope them into a Level 1 loss would take a Herculean choke.
simmons tortured fan bases column
I'm just trying to picture IGY's reaction when the Eagles pass up on a player that everyone knows the Eagles should take, and in the post-draft interviews Banner says that "Howie wasn't a big fan of the guy when scouting him."
Quote from: KDS on January 29, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
Quote12. Philadelphia Eagles
Last Title: 1960.
Last Truly Devastating Defeat: 2008 NFC title game (to Arizona).
Rock Bottom: Donovan McNabb throwing up during the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XXXIX.
Mitigating Factor: The Phillies' 2008 title knocked the Eagles down a few spots. At least the people of Philly know God isn't against their city now. Or, they're reasonably sure.
Additional Thoughts: It's unclear whether Eagles fans could have a Level 1 loss at this point since they keep their guard up at all times. (I watched it firsthand in Jacksonville during Super Bowl XXXIX: As soon as things went wrong in the second quarter, they checked out.) Eagles fans are like those premade dinner bowls from Uncle Ben's or Healthy Choice -- just cut the top, microwave for three minutes and you have a bowl of bitter. Switch McNabb for Favre this past Sunday, and Eagles fans absolutely would have been waiting for that interception to be thrown. To rope them into a Level 1 loss would take a Herculean choke.
simmons tortured fan bases column
Surely many people were waiting for Favre to throw that pick too. Not like the guy's been clutch in his last few playoff appearances
Quote from: King Cole on January 29, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
I'm just trying to picture IGY's reaction when the Eagles pass up on a player that everyone knows the Eagles should take, and in the post-draft interviews Banner says that "Howie wasn't a big fan of the guy when scouting him."
well thats the big fear...even now with the gm title he will never run a draft - which makes the eagles assertion that he did so last year that much more ridiculous - but he will be putting together the big board...i think it was reese who mentioned that the late rounds will be interesting...i suggest that any round after round 2 will be because andy really wont have a ton of knowledge of those players and they will all be ranked primarily by howie
all that said i cant believe there will be a time when they come out publically and say howie farging roseman liked this guy...but even if they did i dont know how much more enraged i could be than i already was last year when it was first reported they were grooming this idiot for the job...the thing that kills me is this guy is literally like if any of us were named eagles gm...its not like he started out ten years ago as a west coast scout paid his dues moved up the ranks became a lead scpout then an assistant gm and got this job....he started in PP less than a year ago
it just unfathomable and has never happened before in the nfl
In what could be the last year of huge draft pay days, this brings up an interesting question. Will a player with an agent known to be difficult like the Postons or Gary Wichard (who held Bunkley out) be less likely to be drafted by Howie?
thats a good point and why an accountant should not running your PP dept
but at least he is a cap expert. that should come in handy when there's no cap.
in other news, from PE (hope it wasn't posted somewhere else)
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Eagles Ink FB Wright To Two-Year Deal
The Eagles announced on Friday afternoon that they have signed fullback Dwayne Wright to a two-year contract.
Originally a fourth round draft choice of Buffalo in 2007, the 5-11, 228-pound Wright appeared in 15 games for the Bills in his rookie campaign. A fullback with the ability to run the ball, Wright recorded 94 rushing yards on 29 attempts. He was released by the team prior to the start of the 2008 season. Wright spent the 2009 preseason with the New York Giants but did not make the team.
interesting. maybe a low ball no signing bonus deal in case signing weaver hits a problem or stocking up early with camp bodies
It means the Eagles are not going to re-sign Weaver
or jackson.
yeah, Joe had these words of encouragement on that one
QuoteEagles president Joe Banner explained on Friday that he would return to the role of lead contract negotiator with Howie Roseman's promotion to the general manager post. Banner said that while Roseman will continue to be "involved and help" with contract negotiations, the Eagles want the new GM to "focus on getting the right evaluations on players."
One aspect for determining who will handle specific contract negotiations will be the relationships with respective agents. That answer was followed up by the question as to who has the better relationship with DeSean Jackson's agent Drew Rosenhaus.
"You'll have to ask Drew," Banner said.
Comcast SportsNet's Derrick Gunn reported on Thursday that league sources indicated to him that Rosenhaus will approach the Eagles about a long-term contract extension for the Pro Bowl wide receiver and return specialist.
Banner explained that there are players "that require immediate attention" because their contracts are due to expire in March. There are 14 players who are about to become either restricted or unrestricted free agents. There are another 10 players who have just one year left on their respective deals.
Banner said that while Roseman will continue to be "involved and help" with contract negotiations, the Eagles want the new GM to "focus on getting the right evaluations on players."
kill me now
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Todd he kind of looks like you in 10 years. His nose a little more jewey though.
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:paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 30, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Quote from: King Cole on January 29, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
I'm just trying to picture IGY's reaction when the Eagles pass up on a player that everyone knows the Eagles should take, and in the post-draft interviews Banner says that "Howie wasn't a big fan of the guy when scouting him."
well thats the big fear...even now with the gm title he will never run a draft - which makes the eagles assertion that he did so last year that much more ridiculous
Which is exactly why I think this:
Reid ain't goin' nowere. We all know it. The perfect scenario, or as perfect as it would get, is for Reid to be GM and all football/personnel operations on this team. Imo, this is what will happen eventually. Until then we will have to suffer through more terrible clock management and late game decision making.
Quote from: Rome on January 31, 2010, 09:41:49 AM
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:paranoid
dumbest post ever?
most ironic post ever?
Most post ever?
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100201_Not_much_promise_in_free-agent_market.html
QuoteVick says he's still a top 10 quarterback
Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2010 10:33 PM ET
In a Monday appearance on The Dan Patrick Show, Mike Vick was asked to identify where he thinks he ranks among NFL quarterbacks.
"Top 10, to be honest," Vick said. "I'm confident in my skills."
Still, Vick said he wouldn't rule out a return to Philly. "I would really have to think about it," Vick said. "I like the coaching staff. I like the people around there. Maybe I would do it. Who knows?"
lol,
still a top 10? He never was. And since he doesn't have the legs he once did, he'd maybe make a mediocre starter.
shhhh....top 10 QBs bring 2nd-round picks
in his prime i think he was definitely a top 10 starter. not so much now.
i imagine being a back up to donovan mcnabb would cause you to unrealisticly rate yourself
The Eagles have signed punter Durant Brooks to provide depth and potentially competition for Sav Rocca, who will be a restricted free agent.
Brooks was not in the league last season after being drafted in the sixth round in 2008 by Washington and appearing in six games. He had a gross average of 39.6 yards per punt and a net average of 32.1 yards per punt for the taterskins before being released.
He spent the remainder of that season on Green Bay's practice squad and was with the Packers until the end of training camp before this past season.
Brooks won the Ray Guy Award as a senior at Georgia Tech as the best punter in the country. He also was tutored by Guy, a family friend and fellow Georgian.
Rocca has a franchise-record 37.1 career net average and broke his own single-season team record in 2009 with a 38.3 net.
From worse to worser.
i didn't realize that rocca set the single season franchise record for net avg. either he's not as bad as we thought or the eagles have just had the absolute worst punters ever.
or he just hit a bunch more 58 yarders than 30 yard shanks which came at bad times
I do have to say that game against the Steelers last year was the only time I've ever seen a punter take a game over
What's really incredible is he hit that average while punting on about 80% of all drives.
When they just let him lay into the thing he's good, but when they tried to get him to angle shtein towards the sidelines he became a shankapottamus.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 02, 2010, 10:05:04 AM
And since he doesn't have the legs he once did, he'd maybe make a mediocre starter.
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looks like somebody says hi
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 02, 2010, 10:16:25 AM
i imagine being a back up to donovan mcnabb would cause you to unrealisticly rate yourself
:-D
QuoteEagles add Dick Jauron as DBs coach
Posted by Evan Silva on February 2, 2010 9:35 PM ET
NFL.com's Jason La Canfora reports that the Eagles have hired ex-Bills head coach Dick Jauron to coach their secondary.
Jauron replaces Brian Stewart on staff. Stewart left Philadelphia a week ago to take the defensive coordinator job at the University of Houston.
In Philadelphia, Jauron will be charged with coaching up a pass defense that ranked No. 17 overall in 2009. The Eagles have a pair of top-flight cornerbacks in Sheldon Brown and Asante Samuel, as well as a reliable strong safety in Quintin Mikell. Free safety has been a trouble spot.
The Eagles are also expected to upgrade at left defensive end this offseason. A potent pass rusher at that position would theoretically take pressure off Philadelphia's defensive backs and increase their big-play opportunities.
overqualified but thats a really nice hire
yea really.
im guessing mcdermont is expected to be a head coach at some point? and juron figures he can slide into the coordinator spot once he goes? otherwise why would he wait until a coordinator spot opened up?
me to Bills fan co-worker who despised Jauron: "hahaha....Jauron is the new DB coach of the Eagles"
him: "omg...nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
me: "if he's only handling the secondary, it won't be that bad. McDermott could use some veteran help"
him: "don't even try to justify it. he sucks a f'ing d**k"
Two nice pick ups.
Brooks was a stud in college and he'll get to work with April. The Jauron pick up is another one of the Holmgren/Reid GB connections and a good one.
QuoteNFL Network's Michael Lombardi reported Tuesday night that the Eagles, suddenly, plan to keep quarterback Michael Vick.
Lombardi says the Eagles feel as if they're "in a luxury position" with regard to their current quarterback group. They have Vick, probable future starter Kevin Kolb, and five-time Pro Bowler Donovan McNabb signed through 2010.
All are also entering contract years.
We're not buying Lombardi's report.
Even in an uncapped year, are we really supposed to believe the Eagles will pay Vick the $5.25 million he's due next season to be a third-stringer who only has value in rare, package-type situations? Are we really supposed to believe that Vick will suddenly regain the explosiveness he lost after 18 months in prison as he goes on age 30? Are we really supposed to believe that the Eagles believe any of this?
Our guess is that a member of the Eagles' organization told Lombardi the team won't trade Vick with the intention of driving up his trade value. If the Eagles appear less desperate to unload the overpaid non-contributor, teams interested in Vick may be less inclined to wait for his release as the March 5 deadline for his $1.5 million roster bonus payment approaches.
Time will tell if the Eagles' strategy works. But don't expect Vick to be on Philadelphia's 2010 roster barring a sizable pay cut.
that's pretty much my take. I think they have until 3/5 to pick up his 1.5 million bonus iirc and will probably deal or release him by then
Wow from a HC to a DB coach. Good pick up for the Eagles.
Can he make Asante tackle and be smart about when to jump a rout and when not to - those are the important kind of things. And steal Hanson's steroids. And give them to Samuel.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 02, 2010, 10:05:45 PM
QuoteNFL Network's Michael Lombardi reported Tuesday night that the Eagles, suddenly, plan to keep quarterback Michael Vick.
Lombardi says the Eagles feel as if they're "in a luxury position" with regard to their current quarterback group. They have Vick, probable future starter Kevin Kolb, and five-time Pro Bowler Donovan McNabb signed through 2010.
All are also entering contract years.
We're not buying Lombardi's report.
Even in an uncapped year, are we really supposed to believe the Eagles will pay Vick the $5.25 million he's due next season to be a third-stringer who only has value in rare, package-type situations? Are we really supposed to believe that Vick will suddenly regain the explosiveness he lost after 18 months in prison as he goes on age 30? Are we really supposed to believe that the Eagles believe any of this?
Our guess is that a member of the Eagles' organization told Lombardi the team won't trade Vick with the intention of driving up his trade value. If the Eagles appear less desperate to unload the overpaid non-contributor, teams interested in Vick may be less inclined to wait for his release as the March 5 deadline for his $1.5 million roster bonus payment approaches.
Time will tell if the Eagles' strategy works. But don't expect Vick to be on Philadelphia's 2010 roster barring a sizable pay cut.
that's pretty much my take. I think they have until 3/5 to pick up his 1.5 million bonus iirc and will probably deal or release him by then
I been thinking that since this upcoming uncapped year will be a major Free Agency bust, then maybe it's back to the good ole days of trades before FA happened. Apparently rich at QB, this trade-bait may be their only viable strategy to get all their player needs beyond draft or UFA's.
I bet they pay Vick the Roster Boner to prove the trade value if no one bites sooner. They didn't promote Howie just to sit and go wahh there's no FA's out there...
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 02, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
Can he make Asante tackle and be smart about when to jump a rout and when not to - those are the important kind of things. And steal Hanson's steroids. And give them to Samuel.
I laughed.
If they don't resign Weaver I quit.
Quote from: mussa on February 03, 2010, 09:08:25 AM
If they don't resign Weaver I quit.
lol @ quitting over a stupid fullback thats been here for one season
If someone offers a 1st + 3rd for him, see ya Lenny...
There isn't a single player on this team that I wouldn't give up for a first and a third.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 03, 2010, 10:55:34 AM
There isn't a single player on this team that I wouldn't give up for a first and a third.
No one gets Pimp :evil
Quote from: KDS on February 02, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
yea really.
im guessing mcdermont is expected to be a head coach at some point? and juron figures he can slide into the coordinator spot once he goes? otherwise why would he wait until a coordinator spot opened up?
I read this as a veteran back-up for McDermott in case things really go south, but I could see it both ways.
So what's next in the collection of awful NFC Central coaches? Dennis Green the runningbacks coach? Mike Tice to replace Juan Castillo when he finally gets an OC job?
Wait a year and Lovie Smith should be available.
or brad childress
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100204_Wanted_or_not__Eagles_receive_a_little_advice.html
I agree with Cross at the end of that article--that offensive line is all weight with not enough athleticism. Peters is the biggest mirage on that line, and anyone outside of maybe Nick Cole (which is a joke), doesnt have the effective ability to get out and run block at the second level of the opposing defense.
remember in the off-season when the eagles line was the best in the nfl on paper? ha
At least one Andrews was supposed to be the weight and athleticism they needed. And then ignored for 90% of the plays on offense anyway.
Schefter reporting:
Eagles hired former Browns GM Phil Savage as a consultant for the April NFL draft.
Savage's title with the Eagles will be Player Personnel Consultant.
there's a resounding vote of confidence for Howie the wunderkind
Makes me think Heckert got pissed off and left rather than being pushed out
Quote from: phattymatty on February 04, 2010, 11:59:54 AM
Schefter reporting:
Eagles hired former Browns GM Phil Savage as a consultant for the April NFL draft.
Savage's title with the Eagles will be Player Personnel Consultant.
I always liked the drafts by the Ravens under Savage. Good move!
so I take it you didnt like his drafting for the browns?
....
Quote"Watch Peyton Manning and what he has done with those young receivers," said Gannon, who also cited the Saints' Drew Brees and "his living down there in New Orleans. I think it's important to be a fixture in the building. If I was coaching, that's one thing I would insist upon.
Does Kolb live in the Philadelphia area in the off season? The young receivers all b line to him for help.
Eagles "Banner" offseason moves thus far:
"Fire" Tom Heckert. Check.
Hire a four-eyed accountant with almost no personnel experience to run the team. Check.
Hire a guy to coach the defensive backs who ran not one but two(!) organizations into the ground. Check.
Hire another guy who ran a franchise into the gutter to "help" the four-eyed accountant with no experience scout the country for talent. Check!
Awesome.
whats hilarious is that because of the utter incompetance of the moves that preceeded them the eagles somehow made the savage and jauron moves look great
its actually a brilliant strategy if you think about it
i think the jauron move is, or at least could be a very good move. he's a legitimate defensive coach/coordinator. he just sucks as a head coach.
but yeah, the rest of the offseason desicions with front office personnel are a complete and total joke. like it wasn't bad enough for the last 10 years with the eagles being arrogant enough to think they can just plug any player into certain positions (specifically lb, wr and safety) and think that it's going to be successful. but now they've moved that philosophy to the front office too. what an absolute joke.
to say i'm sick of the clowns who run the show in philly would be an understatement. i'm actively hating them now.
i'm sure they care deeply.
QuoteThe hiring of Dick Jauron to coach the secondary was only one of several moves the Eagles announced yesterday.
The departure of Tom Heckert to Cleveland and Heckert's hiring of pro personnel director Jon Sandusky from the Birds left open both Howie Roseman's old job as director of player personnel, after Roseman replaced Heckert, and Sandusky's job. As expected, those jobs were filled by Ryan Grigson, the former director of college scouting, and Louis Riddick, formerly a pro scout. Riddick is an ex-pro personnel chief for the taterskins.
As the dominoes continued to tumble, Anthony Patch was named assistant director of college scouting, after being a West Coast scout; Andy Speyer was named Southwest regional scout, after serving as Midwest regional scout; and Brett Veach was named pro and college scout, after spending the previous three seasons as assistant to the head coach.
Two assistant coaches (and ex-Eagles) also moved up on the coaching staff, Mike Caldwell to assistant linebackers coach and Mike Zordich to defensive quality control coach. Last season, Caldwell had the quality control job and Zordich was a coaching intern.
In a statement, Roseman called Grigson "an unbelievable advisor for me and somebody I have bounced a lot of ideas off over the years. Ryan is one of the unsung talented evaluators in the National Football League . . . Ryan is not only a good scout but one of the best people and family men I have come across in the NFL."
Roseman called Riddick "a heck of an evaluator that also helps out the coaches with their game advances." *
Nice to see that Howie's good enough to have leap frogged all those guys. Or maybe that's how bad all those guys suck. Either way, good times in April. Made even better by the super scheduling - only one round on the first night, a Thursday. Must be the same good folks who come up with the Probowl ideas. How come they don't have the last compensatory picks after round 7 on Sunday night?
Rd. 1: Thurs., April 22, 7:30 p.m. ET
Rd. 2-3: Fri., April 23, 6:30 p.m. ET
Rd. 4-7: Sat., April 24, 10 a.m. ET
I went to my second Eagles game ever against the Browns in 94. It was the game where Byron Evans broke his leg which ended his career and also the first of 7 straight losses to end the season and Rich Kotites coaching career with the Eagles. My old man got first row tickets behind the Browns bench. Unfortunately, we couldnt see a thing as the seats were on field level and the Browns asses were blocking our view the entire game.
The only thing that made the game worthwhile was when Louis Riddick gave me his gloves that he wore during the game after they were done stomping us. I had no idea he was still involved with the league.
Louis Riddick graduated from my high school
Did you throw him a can of coke before he gave you the gloves?
die hard only knows how to throw one thing. fists.
Fine. Diehard, did you fist Louis Riddick?
Quote from: Rome on February 04, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
to say i'm sick of the clowns who run the show in philly would be an understatement. i'm actively hating them now.
i'm sure they care deeply.
I don't even want to think about the draft this year. They'll all farg it up.
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 05, 2010, 10:28:23 AM
I went to my second Eagles game ever against the Browns in 94. It was the game where Byron Evans broke his leg which ended his career and also the first of 7 straight losses to end the season and Rich Kotites coaching career with the Eagles. My old man got first row tickets behind the Browns bench. Unfortunately, we couldnt see a thing as the seats were on field level and the Browns asses were blocking our view the entire game.
The only thing that made the game worthwhile was when Louis Riddick gave me his gloves that he wore during the game after they were done stomping us. I had no idea he was still involved with the league.
Holy crap do I ever remember that game. Birds were 7-2 and looked like the real deal. Evans goes down and they lose 7 in a row and we get Ray Rhodes. Bubby Brister couldn't even save the team.
Quote from: Don Ho on February 05, 2010, 06:17:27 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on February 05, 2010, 10:28:23 AM
I went to my second Eagles game ever against the Browns in 94. It was the game where Byron Evans broke his leg which ended his career and also the first of 7 straight losses to end the season and Rich Kotites coaching career with the Eagles. My old man got first row tickets behind the Browns bench. Unfortunately, we couldnt see a thing as the seats were on field level and the Browns asses were blocking our view the entire game.
The only thing that made the game worthwhile was when Louis Riddick gave me his gloves that he wore during the game after they were done stomping us. I had no idea he was still involved with the league.
Holy crap do I ever remember that game. Birds were 7-2 and looked like the real deal. Evans goes down and they lose 7 in a row and we get Ray Rhodes. Bubby Brister couldn't even save the team.
Wasn't that 90 or 91?
1994
93?
I dont' know why I thought that season where they lost 7 straight was the 90-91 season. I saw where he said 94, but I thought it was my freshman year in college in NY when that happened. Sorry.
dont let it happen again
go eat some yellow snow.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 05, 2010, 08:06:08 PM
I dont' know why I thought that season where they lost 7 straight was the 90-91 season. I saw where he said 94, but I thought it was my freshman year in college in NY when that happened. Sorry.
That was shortly after they beat the living day lights out of Steve Young and the Niners in SF. Charlie Garner went off that game. If I am not mistaken the 49ers ended up winning the Super Bowl that year. That string of seven games was so bad.
1990 wasn't much better. That was the opening round loss to the taterskins at The Vet. The infamous Ben Smith fumble recovery for a TD that was called back.
I remember that Ben Smith play. I believe they lost 20-6, right?
I also remember the '94 slide. Chuck went off in SF. I also remember the Cincy loss where Brian O'Neal fumbled a kick off and basically cost the game.
QuoteRams brass talks quarterbacks, Michael Vick
Posted by Josh Alper on February 6, 2010 11:53 AM ET
Hallway decorations weren't the only thing up for discussion among Rams personnel on Friday. Coach Steve Spagnuolo and G.M. Billy Devaney were also talking about on-field matters, namely who would be their quarterback in 2010.
Spagnuolo said that there wasn't any timetable in place for deciding who would get the starting job.
"That may direct itself depending on things that happen. And we know what we're all talking about."
We're talking about potential trades and the draft. Devaney said that he felt that there were first-round talents at quarterback, although most observers agree that the team wouldn't select one unless it traded out of the first overall draft slot. Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has established himself as the top player in this year's draft.
As for trades, eyes in St. Louis have been on Michael Vick since Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported earlier this week that Rams assistants have reached out to their Eagles counterparts. Spagnuolo didn't get into specifics, but did touch on Vick.
"I've got a lot of respect for Michael as a player," Spagnuolo said. "Everything I've heard out of Philadelphia is kind of good. We haven't gone down that road in our process yet. I think he's a terrific player."
Spagnuolo wouldn't rule out returns for either Marc Bulger or Kyle Boller, but the key theme seemed to be that the Rams have a lot of work ahead of them when it comes to the quarterback spot this offseason.
call Miami, find out what an Eagles back up is worth
nothing a little dental floss couldn't take care of
Quote from: Don Ho on February 06, 2010, 12:19:17 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 05, 2010, 08:06:08 PM
I dont' know why I thought that season where they lost 7 straight was the 90-91 season. I saw where he said 94, but I thought it was my freshman year in college in NY when that happened. Sorry.
If I am not mistaken the 49ers ended up winning the Super Bowl that year.
Eagles beat em 40-8 and they didnt lose another game all season.
Two words:
Charlie Garner
Wasn't Garner #30 his first season than changed to #25?
yes
Garner was #25, then changed to 30 in his 2nd season. Sarge is just lessdyxic.
or sarcastic.
sargetastic
I thought it was mentioned here before but killa is gonna learn MMA techniques and discipline from Jay Glazer this offseason
Great...so he can be tough and mean like Matt Leinhart?
Bad move Cole.
It worked for #20.
Andre Waters?
i was thinking mike schmidt.
Christ. Trent Cole doing MMA posts. Evidence the offseason is in full swing. This is going to suck.
banner inc mouth piece eskin leading off his show with the news that the majority of the eagles lockeroom (and especially the young players) wasnt to move on from donovan
bye bye 5
I have a hard time believing that. no chance in hell any of those players opened their mouth like that...especially to a howard eskin
eskin has already said when the season was over that he was done with mcnabb, and now hes trying to stir some shtein up to put some pressure on the front office. he will still be able to get banner on his talk show regardless because the 2 of them are clones, so doing so is no skin off his back
whether the players said that or not is irrelevant....eskin would not come out and say something like that about the team without permission from banner inc
back in november when he started ripping mcnabb for the first time ever i was like 90% sure he was gone but now this settles it
so sure that you would put some dollars on it?
and man if I lose, it will be the happiest bet I ever lost
yeah ill do a 20 piece
mark it down in your other 39 bets here
just so the bet has a set parameter im gonna make opening day as the cut off
fair?
yep
haha
not sure reese understands quite how in the pocket of banner eskin is. hes been throwing these little jabs at 5 for a while now, and opening his show with a bomb like that more or less tells you what you need to know.
man i hope its not too late to swindle phreak out of some cash. if i cant cake off his ridiculous busting nut for fatty 5 than what can i do
Die painfully, we hope.
Quote from: KDS on February 18, 2010, 03:43:20 AM
haha
not sure reese understands quite how in the pocket of banner eskin is. hes been throwing these little jabs at 5 for a while now, and opening his show with a bomb like that more or less tells you what you need to know.
it is possible the market for mcnabb isnt what the eagles thought or wanted it to be and they pull back and go with him...eskin at that point would obviously back off....but as we stand here and now theres no question banner inc is going to do everything possible to trade him
even so 5 isnt coming back with smiles and hugs if he doesnt have an extension
instead well get a seasons worth of subtle, back-handed remarks and little digs at how mean the fans are for booing him in 1999 and how he thinks hes one of the greatest qbs in the league.
meanwhile kolb will sulk on the bench and still isnt man enough to call it like it is
i give kolb some credit for not being disruptive. it would be counter productive for him to publicly say he should be starting. and even if the fo bought off on it and booted mcnabb, now kolb has to back up all of his talk on the field and basically lead the eagles to a super bowl win and nothing else. fans won't be satisfied with losing the sb or nfccg. we've already seen that from mcnabb 6x over.
anything he says derogatory about mcnabb right now will only put more pressure on him should he eventually be the starter.
c'mon cleveland !
Kolb is going to blow so hard it's going to be funny. I mean his numbers will be good because half of his passes will be screens to the best reciever in the league, but anything else he has to do is going to be funny. This has nothing to do with Donovan. I just think it's hilarious people think Kolb is anything other than a huge question mark.
Translation:
He's going to blow but his numbers will be good but he's a huge question mark.
Quote from: Rome on February 19, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
Translation:
He's going to blow but his numbers will be good but he's a huge question mark.
lol
not to mention i dont think a single person has said cobb is anything but a questionmark
other than that another solid post from beane
Quote from: Rome on February 19, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
Translation:
He's going to blow but his numbers will be good but he's a huge question mark.
Translation:
He's going to the Pro Bowl and will therefore want $11 million/yr, at which point his play will be a slightly smaller question mark.
So he'll be as good as Vince Young?
Not that bad, but pretty close.
video of opening arguments at yesterday's WIP debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPOfwhxgow8)
full audio, part 1 (http://67.72.16.166/wip/2230662.mp3)
full audio, part 2 (http://67.72.16.166/wip/2230660.mp3)
So basically it's a debate consisting of seven idiots bashing the Eagles and one company flunky defending them?
Oh, that sounds awesome.
The only people in and outside of Philly that don't know what was said was truth, are the Eagles FO.
Geez, after watching more of that crap, Dave Spewdicko needs to go the farg away, now.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 21, 2010, 11:08:31 AM
video of opening arguments at yesterday's WIP debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPOfwhxgow8)
full audio, part 1 (http://67.72.16.166/wip/2230662.mp3)
full audio, part 2 (http://67.72.16.166/wip/2230660.mp3)
only watched the video, but i'm kind of surprised that out of all of them, cataldi was by far the best. say what?
I have got to watch this video! Just thinking of Spudz getting all giddy and defensive of the birds excites me.
Quote from: Don Ho on February 21, 2010, 05:22:05 PM
I have got to watch this video! Just thinking of Spudz getting all giddy and defensive of the birds excites me.
he was far from giddy in the video. in fact, it was more than obvious that he didn't believe any of the things he was saying. but damn if he didn't try to speak with conviction in his voice though. he was probably excited about being included in a "media" event more than anything else.
Davey boy might as well have been standing on his hands talking out his ass because everything he said was shtein.
Love the reception Spudz received. :-D Angelo calling him out. That shtein was great.
Love the Cuz!
damn i have to watch this thing tonight
was there any true spad meltdowns filled with complete bitterness and condensation
maybe it's code for "crying." or some new hipster term for "ohhh he leakin'!"
it a noun for condescending
too late. ain't no use in condensatin' about it now, homie
"condescension" Webster
thanks
I've been seeing that the Birds might be interested in L.T in a few places. I think it's B.S (Why would they want a RB with little-to-no tread left when they have one in 36??), but hey, it's the offseason. Do you think L.T could be a Dorsey Levens type playing in spots or is he just complete toast?
he certainly could be a dorsey levens type player. the question is, would he accept that role or does he still think he's a starting rb?
He's used to having every season wasted by a coach that isn't quite good enough to get to the superbowl, so he'll love playing for Andy.
36 released
my pops just hit me up to say that, not like you didnt see it coming. 36 to the Colts is my guess
Wish he would have retired.
reid presser @ 3
Definitely the end of an Era. Thanks 36
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Eagles_release_Westbrook.html
hasn't made it to espn.com yet.
Peace out Westbrook. Thanks for always getting hurt at the worst possible time.
Westbrook should probably retire. His one knee is completely shot, and the concussions can't help.
That being said he'll probably go to a dome team and run for 1000 yards this year.
Lol @ anyone thinking he has anything left
He's been done pretty much since the garcia year and has been running on fumes since
And didn't that fool munson claim the eagles had an epic three headed monster in west, shady and weaver? Like a month ago? People just couldn't see the reality
Oh, he is done. Given the history of Reid letting older players go and what happens next, chances are Westbrook isn't going to do anything regardless of where he ends up.
Its not a chance. He physically is as capable of doing anything as sarge is 3 beers deep at the va
wtf? 3 beers? farg off you dirty mexijew.
Quote from: KDS on February 23, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
And didn't that fool munson claim the eagles had an epic three headed monster in west, shady and weaver? Like a month ago? People just couldn't see the reality
it was munson or cole
does it really matter which one
who said this year that he was a top 3 back
not on the eagles
in the nfl
this truly is a sad day...westbrook was not only one of the great eagles ever but also one of the most likeable...and in an eagles era that was very vanilla as far as individuals go that is saying something
Shocking news, but not really shocking.
I somewhat expected them to keep him for another year.
Herremans and Celek were both shocked, they interviewed them on Sirius NFL radio. I hope they carry the Reid press conference at 3.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 23, 2010, 03:06:29 PM
Herremans and Celek were both shocked, they interviewed them on Sirius NFL radio. I hope they carry the Reid press conference at 3.
wip will carry it...unless youre not going to be by a computer
it also hasnt happened yet and now they are saying it will be "later" but still this afternoon
PE.com now says 4
i was under the impression that this was a foregone conclusion to everyone
It was. I was mostly just laughing at Phreak announcing that it was both shocking and not shocking in the same sentence.
yeah i know...i was talking about phreak and others who are even a little bit shocked
Reid said the release was just to give Brian a chance to find another job before free agency. Nothing to do with money. Nothing. Yeah.
I'd like to punch that fat farg 7.25 million times in the face.
Your arm would get sleepy.
Switch to the other arm. You'd probably have to ask Andy to hold your beer though.
I don't begrudge them releasing him after the troubles he had last year. I just hate them blindly at this point, so anything they do is going to piss me off.
so McNabb, Akers, Sheldon, Mikell, Trotter (for now), Jamaal Jackson and Andrews are the only players left from the Super Bowl team, and the latter two were on IR during that playoff run...
Two of them will probably not be on the opening day roster.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 23, 2010, 03:30:12 PM
It was. I was mostly just laughing at Phreak announcing that it was both shocking and not shocking in the same sentence.
It was shocking to actually hear them do it. Even though I was pretty sure it was going to happen, it still came as a surprise.
I think they should have kept him.
How the time flies - it seems like 2003 was yesterday when he was sticking it up the Giants asses. How great that day was.
I love Brian Westbrook but it is time to move on. He is done. And this is far from surprising or shocking.
QuoteESPN gets fooled by Westbrook impersonator
Posted by Mike Florio on February 24, 2010 8:03 AM ET
Tony Kornheiser isn't the only guy who is going to be suspended by ESPN this week.
Someone who guards the on-air gate allowed a person pretending to be soon-to-be-former Eagles running back Brian Westbrook to talk live via phone with Scott Van Pelt on last night's SportsCenter.
Here's the audio/video.
As if the prank wasn't obvious the minute the person started talking, it became even more clear when the caller mentioned "worshiping the prostate of Howard Stern."
Maybe the caller was Tony Kornheiser.
http://www.nowpublic.com/sports/brian-westbrook-howard-stern-espn-prank-call-video-2582087.html
I DVR's last nights ESPN just to see the Westbrook stuff, then they talk about having Westbrook calling in. The guy starts talking and clearly sounded like white trash from queens. farging hilarious.
anyone been watching Vicks show?
http://www.bet.com/video/838029 (http://www.bet.com/video/838029)
No. But I saw yesterday that he was offered 1mil to pose for playgirl
That means you renewed your subscription?
i have auto-renew set up.
probably nothing to it, but Les Bowen says Banner and Roseman had lunch with the agents representing Jamaal Jackson, Larry Johnson and Joshua Cribbs...
Cribbs? OK. Johnson - farg NO!
lol @ $ing up cribbs
last time i checked he couldnt play lb. or safety. or d end. or dt. or corner. or punt. or coach. or gm. or own the team. or design the uniforms. or play qb. or backup shady. or play anywhere on the o line.
i'm not saying that they absolutely have to go get the guy, but dude has serious return skills and would probably give the offense a significantly shorter field to work with. not that that's important or anything.
well of course but you have pimp, maclin, avant, etc.
the last thing on your mind should be throwing $ at someone you really dont need. and we all know how much banner likes his $.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 26, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
i'm not saying that they absolutely have to go get the guy, but dude has serious return skills and would probably give the offense a significantly shorter field to work with. not that that's important or anything.
the difference btwn the number one returner and number say 20th returner might be five yards...being on the 30 is better than the 25 but is it worth investing big dollars for...not imo...and cribbs wasnt even the best returner in the league...he did have the most td's
I could see a number of reasons why AR would want Cribbs. First would be Reid having a hard on for Cribbs in the wildcat, particularly if Vick goes. He'd probably love to let Curtis and his $4.5 million salary go and replace him with Cribbs as a 3/4. He could get Desean off of PR which he probably wants (like when he took Westy off PR) if he can get a good replacement, and it makes it easier to let Hobbs go or give a low tender to. Assuming Heckert is still on decent terms with the team, with he and Holmgren in Cleveland it should help to get something done.
On the down side, Cribbs wants some good money (probably >$3MM/yr) and Cleveland will probably want at least a 3rd rounder for him. It has also been reported that Cribbs and the Browns were close to a deal.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 26, 2010, 10:31:49 PM
He'd probably love to let Curtis and his $4.5 million salary go and replace him with Cribbs as a 3/4. He could get Desean off of PR which he probably wants (like when he took Westy off PR) if he can get a good replacement
huh...what do you mean by a 3/4....youre not talking a wr are you?...cause cribs is not a wide out nor could he ever be one
and no chance in hell andy takes pimp off PR...hes easily the best in the nfl and could be one of the best ever
Just bring back Ellis Hobbs.
why not put maclin on kr? or draft shadys backup to do it. young spry africans = the shtein.
^^^
this is my point in that they have plenty of talent to put deep on kickoffs...they dont need to spend big money on a cribs
if the eagles were dallas or the skins id say go for it since money isnt an option
where is romey with luries debt ratio numbers??
DEBT SERVICE!
Maclin sucks at KR. Too tentative and scared to get hit.
that is true
but instead of wasting 6th and 7th round picks on project o lineman, draft as many athletes as you can and see if one of them can be your kr. chances are out of 5 or 6 fast negros 1 or 2 can hold onto the ball and arent afraid to get hit
they have more than enough people on the roster now to return kicks that they dont need to be caking off free agents or using drafts picks
as long as this person's ancestors were NOT from europe i am ok with that
thats a baffling comment considering your current favorite sporting event ever is overstuffed with europeans
not to even mention your groin sweating in anticipation of the world cup this summer
nm
haha
dont get me wrong no one wants to see black people skate but for the love of god on what planet other than rome's dream world world do we need to see a white person return kicks
come again?
who farging cares what color a guy is? seriously. this is the most tired farging schtick around here. todd's attempts to be like igy used to be kind of cute in a puppy love kind of way but now it's just flat out pathetic. do you even have any black friends or are they only good enough for you as long as they can dribble or run a 4.2 40?
Quote from: KDS on February 27, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
haha
dont get me wrong no one wants to see black people skate but for the love of god on what planet other than rome's dream world world do we need to see a white person return kicks
the planet where we watch scandanavians and eastern euro trash skate in circles for three hours or the planet where we watch cheap shot artist head butters flop around a field of grass while kicking a ball back and forth for 90 minutes
or is this two different places?
cause i cant keep up
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 27, 2010, 01:09:47 AM
who farging cares what color a guy is? seriously. this is the most tired farging schtick around here. todd's attempts to be like igy used to be kind of cute in a puppy love kind of way but now it's just flat out pathetic. do you even have any black friends or are they only good enough for you as long as they can dribble or run a 4.2 40?
see, you fit in perfectly
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2010, 01:11:02 AM
Quote from: KDS on February 27, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
haha
dont get me wrong no one wants to see black people skate but for the love of god on what planet other than rome's dream world world do we need to see a white person return kicks
the planet where we watch scandanavians and eastern euro trash skate in circles for three hours or the planet where we watch cheap shot artist head butters flop around a field of grass while kicking a ball back and forth for 90 minutes
or is this two different places?
cause i cant keep up
the same planet where we watch uconn and eastern michigan in the pizza bowl and tampa bay and atlanta on versus in may
that would be america
seems to me youd be much happier in montenagro
montenegro wut?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 27, 2010, 01:09:47 AM
who farging cares what color a guy is? seriously. this is the most tired farging schtick around here. todd's attempts to be like igy used to be kind of cute in a puppy love kind of way but now it's just flat out pathetic. do you even have any black friends or are they only good enough for you as long as they can dribble or run a 4.2 40?
why would you ever care what MDS thinks...hes 22, writes for a penny pack newspaper near mexico and delivers tiger rolls and miso soup on the side
hes the definition of irrelevant
already posted?
Quote
Eagles Notes: Weaver extension talks have begun
By Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writer
INDIANAPOLIS - While the Eagles have yet to publicly offer tenders to their 10 restricted free agents, they have begun negotiating with one in particular.
The Eagles have begun talks on a new deal for fullback Leonard Weaver, a league source said. Weaver was signed to a one-year deal as a free agent last off-season, but will become a restricted free agent on March 5 unless there is a collective-bargaining agreement before then.
The fullback is one of 10 Eagles players with between four and five years of service who would have become unrestricted free agents under the previous system. Instead, those players now will have to wait until they've completed six seasons to become unrestricted.
The Eagles apparently want to lock up Weaver, who was productive last season, rushing for 323 yards and two touchdowns, and catching 15 passes for 140 yards and two more scores.
As for the other nine restricted free agents, Eagles general manager Howie Roseman said yesterday that the team won't offer tenders until next week before the March 4 deadline (the new NFL year begins on March 5). Those players are wide receiver Jason Avant, guard Nick Cole, linebackers Chris Gocong and Omar Gaither, cornerback Ellis Hobbs, guard Max Jean-Gilles, linebacker Akeem Jordan, punter Sav Rocca and tight end Alex Smith.
The Eagles can match any offer for any of their restricted free agents or receive compensation in the form of draft picks. Compensation is based on the tender level - the highest level ($3.168 million per year salary) nets a first- and a third-round pick, and the next-highest level ($2.521 million) brings a first-rounder.
Quote from: KDS on February 27, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
haha
dont get me wrong no one wants to see black people skate but for the love of god on what planet other than rome's dream world world do we need to see a white person return kicks
Seriously, what the farg is wrong with you? This comment is stupid, even for you.
QuoteEagles fullback Leonard Weaver told your Eagletarian Saturday, "I believe it's close," when asked about a new deal with the Eagles. Weaver could be a restricted free agent on Friday, if no new pact is signed. In any case, the Eagles are very unlikely to let him get away.
Quote from: shorebird on February 27, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: KDS on February 27, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
haha
dont get me wrong no one wants to see black people skate but for the love of god on what planet other than rome's dream world world do we need to see a white person return kicks
Seriously, what the farg is wrong with you? This comment is stupid, even for you.
Agree totally, give the race obsession a rest, it's old and stale. KDS, you're white and you're a Jew. There's nothing wrong with that (despite the antisemitic racism sometimes seen on this board - not the joking things, the hypocritical bigotry stuff). Be happy with who you are. Please.
part of being jewish is being unhappy with yourself, actually.
i'm just curious why it's my dream world.
because you are the resident old, crotchety angry white man. i thought you knew that.
anyway, it turns out koy detmer might take over the coaching gig at los frenos high down here. hes an assistant at a school in san antonio right now and les fresnos is 5a and they pay just under 100k. how fun would that be for me.
Get him to autograph a shirtless picture for me and I won't ban you. Thanks.
if hes the hc there well be best buddies, so anything you want e.w. mckenna. ANYTHING.
A lock of neck hair.
QuoteReport: Eagles to pay Vick's bonus
Posted by Evan Silva on February 27, 2010 9:19 PM ET
Citing "multiple league sources," Geoff Mosher of the Delaware News Journal reports that the Eagles fully intend to pay Michael Vick's $1.5 roster bonus, due March 5, and trade him thereafter.
The thinking is, $1.5 million is worth it if the Eagles can get a mid-round draft choice in exchange for Vick. Mosher indicates that Philadelphia is targeting a third- or fourth-round pick as compensation.
The odds of getting a third- or fourth-rounder for Vick seem long, but time will tell whether this is a smart decision. It's possible that a team like Buffalo will emerge from the draft without a quarterback of the future or present. Vick, 29, may be viewed as a better stopgap solution with more long-term potential than Ryan Fitzpatrick or Trent Edwards, convincing 91-year-old owner Ralph Wilson that Vick is worth a valuable pick in the 2011 draft.
More from Mosher:
The Eagles are expected to "prioritize business over football" with regard to their quarterback situation. So they're willing to trade starting quarterback Donovan McNabb if a team meets their asking price, believed to be at least a first-round pick.
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business over football has been the goddamn motto since 1994.
That guy just contradicted himself. If it's business over football, they either try to trade Vick now or release him, not pay him off now in hopes of a higher pick later.
get thomas jones?
Peppers might be Eagles' target (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100228_Julius_Peppers_might_be_Eagles__target.html)
MDS will win a Pulitzer before the Eagles will sign a 30-plus year-old running back.
Quote from: Rome on February 28, 2010, 09:05:39 AM
MDS will win a Pulitzer before the Eagles will sign a 30-plus year-old running back.
I know...but he'd be a real nice complement to Shady.
If he played like he did with the Jets last year I'd have no problem with that. Of course, Reid won't run the ball enough to satisfy one running back and with Shady on the team plus Leonard Weaver supposedly being re-signed, I just don't see where Jones would fit in there.
I guess I could always pray that the fat dipshtein completely changes his chuck & duck offensive philosophy and starts running the ball for real.
Quote from: Rome on February 28, 2010, 09:05:39 AM
MDS will win a Pulitzer before the Eagles will sign a 30-plus year-old running back.
I could see the Eagles signing him despite his age, I just don't think they'd be willing to match what some other teams will offer.
Jahri Evans got the highest tender from NO. I'd be damn tempted to give up a 1st and 3rd for him, especially considering the slots they are drafting from, and if they can address one or two positions of need via FA.
Nick Cole, Akeem Jordan, and Avant get 2nd round tenders. I'd probably hold onto Avant for a second unless it was a fairly early in the round.
I really hope these fools try and scoop up Karlos Dansby.
The funny thing is they spent roughly 20 draft choices on receivers looking for an Avant, they get one, then only tender him with the prospect of getting a draft pick back in return if they don't match.
Awesome.
I dont know/remember if had injuries down the stretch of the 2nd half of the season, but dude was invisible. Its not like you can expect a bunch out of a 4th receiver regardless, but I thought he was going to be used much more in different package sets
his hands are sick and he should be kept, but I think with the emergence of Maclin and their high use of Celek, he might play the same role this year again....and might be worth the 2nd rd'er
Quote from: Rome on March 04, 2010, 03:49:02 PM
The funny thing is they spent roughly 20 draft choices on receivers looking for an Avant, they get one, then only tender him with the prospect of getting a draft pick back in return if they don't match.
Awesome.
No one will give up a second round pick for Avant. He's just not worth that.
You never know when it comes to WRs people tend to over pay because they are difficult to find.
avant plays his role well but its a role that can be filled pretty easily...and it may have to be because hes not going to last much longer if he has to continue exposing his internal organs while reaching back for mcnabbs throws
what are you talking about...mcnabb is gone
Avant is incredibly underrated. He drops nothing. That said, no one is gonna spend a 2nd rounder to sign him.
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
what are you talking about...mcnabb is gone
and we pray
I think its time you stopped praying. It hasn't worked the last 5 offseasons.
he's been praying to fast freddie, though...
I was praying that FF leave these boards..
With the salary Curtis is slated to get, he's as good as gone imo. So, Avant stays the 3rd wr, which is 1 injury away from starter. I think he's very valuable to the team.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2010, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 04, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
what are you talking about...mcnabb is gone
and we pray
:-D I never thought I would agree with that assessment, but I do.
Sproles was scheduled to visit Philly before the Chargers changed their minds and tendered him at the 1+3 level. doh
You shouldnt even post that shtein easy.
How about this one....
Chicago Sun-Times (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/03/seahawks_could_be_favorite_to.html)
QuotePeppers may command a deal that averages about $14 million a year and includes guarantees of up to $40 million.
The McCaskey family has approved about $30 million for free agency, so the Bears would have to get creative to land Peppers or free up some more money.
After Peppers, Aaron Kampman is regarded as the second-best defensive end available, followed by Kyle Vanden Bosch. But one league source told me that Kampman may be headed to Philadelphia.
Taylor Mays is lighting it up at the combine.
I would almost prefer to see the Eagles sign Kampman over Peppers. He would be considerably cheaper and is supposedly healthy.
just like stacey andrews
Yeah that is why I said supposedly. I am not a huge fan of the idea of the Eagles signing Pepper, that being said if they did I am sure I would be fairly happy.
no deal reached with Weaver yet--second rd tender
edit:
Hobbs--1st rd tender
Max Jean and Rocca-original pick tenders
Say goodbye to Weaver.
so, I think this sums it up all in one place
QuoteWeaver gets tender, not contract
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 4, 2010 7:47 PM ET
Eagles fullback Leonard Weaver said Thursday afternoon he was getting "closer" to a contract extension, but he wasn't able to sign before becoming a restricted free agent.
To retain his rights, the Eagles placed a second-round tender on him. A long-term deal could still come shortly.
Other players to get a second-round tender included wideout Jason Avant, guard/center Nick Cole, and linebacker Akeem Jordan. Ellis Hobbs surprisingly led the way with a first-round tender, showing how thin the cornerback market is.
Linebackers Omar Gaither (fifth-round) and Chris Gocung (third-round) got original round tenders, as did guard Max Jean-Gilles.
Punter Sav Rocca can be all yours for a bag of footballs. (Or the Eagles have the right to match any offer he signs.)
According to GCobb, Weaver will sign a 3 year deal today. He also says Peppers is visiting Chicago today, but if he doesnt sign, he's visiting Philly after.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 05, 2010, 07:15:08 AM
According to GCobb, Weaver will sign a 3 year deal today. He also says Peppers is visiting Chicago today, but if he doesnt sign, he's visiting Philly after.
yeah i can not see anyway that the eagles would let weaver go. he goes way beyond what he does as a fullback.
Which is exactly why I can see the Eagles letting him go.
please stop making sense.
Leonard locked and loaded. Highest deal for FB ever, 3 years 10+ mil. I still like it.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 05, 2010, 09:39:05 AM
Leonard locked and loaded. Highest deal for FB ever, 3 years 10+ mil. I still like it.
Agreed.
Quote from: phattymatty on March 05, 2010, 09:39:05 AM
Leonard locked and loaded. Highest deal for FB ever, 3 years 10+ mil. I still like it.
link ?
from Rotoworld
Leonard Weaver: Report: Eagles to sign FB Weaver for 3 years
Leonard Weaver - RB - PHI - Mar. 5 - 4:45 am et
The Eagles will reportedly sign FB Leonard Weaver to a three-year contract on Friday morning.
Weaver's second-round tender, received Thursday, was a formality. He's reportedly agreed to the multi-year deal, with only some financial terms yet to be worked out. The proposal would take Weaver through his age-30 season. Mar. 5 - 4:45 am et
Source: Delaware County Times
love it
Its up on PE.com too, so its official.
While I like this signing and think that Weaver is a good player, why does everyone care this much about a FB who is this lightly used?
Don't get me wrong I liked what he did last year and like how he fits into the offense, but what I really want is for the team to use the fullback position for some actual blocking on running plays and that isn't going to happen no matter who they have on the roster so overall I give this signing a big meh.
There's no such thing as "fullbacks" anymore. He's a RB and a pretty good one.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:31 AM
While I like this signing and think that Weaver is a good player, why does everyone care this much about a FB who is this lightly used?
i dont get the excitement either
and its not official until spads writes his piece about how the eagles dont believe there is anyone on the open market that can help them and instead they wanted to concentrate on retaining their own players which is what they are doing a great job at
I could have sworn Jason Babin signed a 4 year extension after making the team last year...Now I see he has visits scheduled. The guys tatts were better than the way he played, so I could care less, but I'm pretty sure I remember that..
lightly used ?
yeah thats what i was wondering. easily the most used of any FB in the Andy era and I can't imagine more than 1 or 2 FBs in the entire league had more carries than him last year.
70 carries for 323 years
15 receptions for 140 yards
4td's
All that in only 8 starts. I wouldn't call that "hardly" used.
I do find it funny though igy, that if they let him walk you would be the first to bitch about it.
It's not like he was an every down battering ram player is all I meant. I'm sure he gets more touches than the average FB but definitely gets less snaps than the traditional FB role.
Off Weaver for a minute...I'd like to see the FO make a push to get Mawae here on a 1yr deal. Jackson wont be ready till the end of camp, and Mawae seems to be the perfect short term solution. I bet they resign Honeybuns.
without Westbook around he's going to get a lot more chances to dive for worm-burners out of the backfield.
But I thought McNabb was getting traded to STL for Feeley???
LaCanfora saying that the Birds and Pats already have offers on the table for Peppers in case he doesn't sign with Bears.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 05, 2010, 10:42:16 AM
Off Weaver for a minute...I'd like to see the FO make a push to get Mawae here on a 1yr deal. Jackson wont be ready till the end of camp, and Mawae seems to be the perfect short term solution. I bet they resign Honeybuns.
thats a good call...a veteran TRUE mlb to back bradley wouldnt be a bad get either
I also think they sign Honeybuns because he'll be cheap and he "knows the system".
:-o
Glad Weaver is back in the fold.
wip reporting that jay glazer is reporting that kampman is on his way to philly
White DEs for the win?
i actually like Kampman. But he's still a poor mans Jared Allen, 30 years old, and coming off knee surgery. Guaranteed Eagle
id easily rather have jason babin than that sloth
White KGB
i dont even care about white...allen is a god....
im just farging sick and tired and of older broke up players who arent going to be any beter than what they already have...id rather just skip free agency and concentrate on the draft if those are the kind of guys they are looking at
high motor!
From Glazer:
QuoteCorrection on kampan, birds have had talks w his rep but he is NOT visiting at this point. Also, just talked w delhomme, he's taking weekend to decide next step
Quote from: phattymatty on March 05, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
From Glazer:
QuoteAlso, just talked w delhomme, he's taking weekend to decide next step
what's to decide? he's going to sit around waiting for a team that's looking for a turnover machine at qb to call. it would probably be a good idea for him to use his time and catch up on the wire or something.
next step = wait out free agency to see which team with the worst starting qb and sign with them as a back up
god i remember the clueless farging morons out there that went on & on about how delhomme was better than mcnabb after reid gift wrapped the '03 nfcc game for the panthers.
frigging guy was a one money shot wonder.
So were Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and a ton of other guys...Except those guys have jewelry, while we've watched and waited 11 years for our "franchise" QB to try to do the same.
johnson was always a pretty good qb. very accurate passer. he just wasn't an elway or manning type player that could put a team on his back and carry them.
i think dilfer is a better qb than people give him credit for, but much like johnson, simply wasn't "the guy." not saying he was great or anything but once he got out of tampa, he put together some solid years with baltimore and seattle. at one point, didn't he have like a 20 plus game winning streak as the starting qb between those 2 teams?
i don't remember as much about hostettler or williams because i was probably in my very early teens at that point and was solely focused on the eagles. didn't pay much attention to the league as a whole back then so the only thing i really knew about them was that they won a super bowl.....which means i probably thought they were super awesome.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 05, 2010, 02:41:49 PM
So were Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and a ton of other guys...Except those guys have jewelry, while we've watched and waited 11 years for our "franchise" QB to try to do the same.
i hear what you're saying but delhomme & those two benefitted from better coaching and much better defenses in the cse of the bucs and ravens.
just on the merits of being a qb none were better than mcnabb. none of them had an assinine head coach call pass play after pass play while watching his shtein for nothing wideouts get throttled at the line of scrimage either.
i digress though my brotha.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/opinions/blogs/burbsblogs/sports/4th_and_26/4th_and_26_details/article/862/2010/march/05/eagles-to-release-linebacker-witherspoon.html
Must Save Money...Gold Standard... If they go and get Dansby fine, but they're too cheap
You know, it's not like Witherspoon lit the world on fire last season but for farg's sake they might as well just run 5 DLs and 6 CBs out there and call it a day.
The complete lack of priority on the LB position is appalling.
Don't worry guys, we have Fokou and can re-sign Trotter.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 05, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
You know, it's not like Witherspoon lit the world on fire last season but for farg's sake they might as well just run 5 DLs and 6 CBs out there and call it a day.
The complete lack of priority on the LB position is appalling.
basically this, they have no planning at all at the position, and will end up with injured players like last year, and roll out shtein
Simoneau and Nate Wayne are out there somewhere
LOL @ the iceholes releasing their best linebacker.
Jesus Christ...
well Bradley is their best lb...but why the farg would you drop this guy when he's the next best option.
oh they saved 5 million on the ....cap. right
WTF?
Quote from: SunMo on March 05, 2010, 06:36:00 PM
well Bradley is their best lb...but why the farg would you drop this guy when he's the next best option.
oh they saved 5 million on the ....cap. right
On CSN Sportsnite they reported that a team source says the team really likes their linebackers and think they are fine without Witherspoon.
good move....I knew Trotter was making progress
witherspoon > rickets.
Brandon Gibson and a fifth for a few games from Witherspoon. I don't think Gibson is ever going to be a superstar, but he looked really solid and showed a lot of promise, even in the hole that is St. Louis. This makes the whole acquisition and cut extremely strange.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 05, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
The complete lack of priority on the LB position is appalling.
and
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 05, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
Brandon Gibson and a fifth for a few games from Witherspoon. This makes the whole acquisition and cut extremely strange.
What.
The.
Fuc
k.
This makes no GD sense.
It makes no sense unless they aquire a linebacker in the draft, like you know who.
stop, you know theyre' gonna go with an O lineman or a safe Dlineman in the draft
dropping witherspoon is just retarded. awful move.
Is it possible Witherspoon he gave Reid an "extend me or cut me" ultimatum? Thats the only possible reason behind this.
they cut witherspoon because he was due five million dollars. they're in full cost-cutting mode now that there's an uncapped season upon us.
what's amazing is they made a fullback the highest paid player at his position in history despite the fact that they don't run the ball and rarely use the fullback for blocking.
i swear they did it just so they can say to the fans, "what do you MEAN we don't pay players - look at Weaver!".
iceholes.
akeem jordan is the answer and dont you forget it
The Eagles payroll is over 100 million. I just can't see Reid, Lurie and Banner sitting in their secret evil lair thinking about saving 5 million on a decent but not great player.
Quote from: Rome on March 05, 2010, 06:18:58 PM
LOL @ the iceholes releasing their best linebacker.
Jesus Christ...
Just stupid
Is there anybody more full of shtein than Andy Reid? He says there is a good chance they keep all three QBs for the upcoming season.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 06, 2010, 03:02:47 PM
Is there anybody more full of shtein than Andy Reid? He says there is a good chance they keep all three QBs for the upcoming season.
Witherspoon isn't worth $5M, even though LB is the weakest position on the team, but Vick's 1.2 yards per play average out of the Wilddog is. What a bunch of idiots.
Super. Bowl.
After the first couple games Witherspoon was pretty awful. He's basically a backup MLB on this team. Jordan is a better WILL LB. Sneeze on Witherspoon and he's out of the play.
lol
witherspoon wasn't awful. he was an above average linebacker who was surrounded by incompetent linebackers who were surrounded by a largely incompetent defense. he's not all world but he's a nice player to have if you can surround him with other quality players....which is something that the eagles don't, won't, can't do.
What do you think he did well then? He was poor against the run, he couldn't get off blockers, and often took bad angles. I forget which Dallas loss it was, but the one of them Barber busted a couple nice runs. Both runs were on Witherspoon. He can move pretty well and drop back into coverage, but it wasn't like he was great at it or anything. Had a great first game against the taterskins and then didn't really do much for the entire season. I just got tired of seeing him get completely engulfed by blockers without a prayer of shedding and making a play.
Bradley and Jordan are better players. Witherspoon was the 3rd best LB on the team, but that isn't saying much since the rest are garbage. I was a fan of the pickup at the time too, so I have no reason to hate on the guy. He just didn't do much.
Even if your inaccurate nonsense were accurate, are teams in the habit of cutting the third best player at a position that requires three starters?
sarge pretty much said it right
this isnt a corner we're talking about here where your exposed man on man 8 times out of 10
the LB core works in conjunction with the d-line and feeds off them. not to mention the multiple changes that go on and switches at the line of scrimmage
if the communication is not there (which I can bet was not with the multiple switches at the MLB position this year) and the d-line is not doing their job you become exposed....and imo witherspoon got the short end of the stick. is he all world? hell no. is he decent enough to have on this team with a LB unit as inefficient as the eagles--absolutely. so unless they have a contingency plan where they wait for more LB's to be cut on other teams or draft a 1st rd LB this move makes no sense relying on bradley and jordan.
it makes no sense other than they could basically save a 5 million a year contract from their books in this uncapped year. Nice to know that they're using this to position themselves to have more cap room than they can spend again. :puke
Quote from: rjs246 on March 06, 2010, 06:00:21 PM
Even if your inaccurate nonsense were accurate, are teams in the habit of cutting the third best player at a position that requires three starters?
It's accurate, but this I'm assuming they will make additions to LB. If they go into the season with this exact group, then it will make no sense.
According to National Football Post Marlin Jackson is going to visit the Eagles after he visits the Ravens.
talk about an overhyped player coming out of college. I forgot he was even in the league
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 07, 2010, 02:02:24 PM
talk about an overhyped player coming out of college. I forgot he was even in the league
He has actually had a pretty decent career thus far, he was hurt last season. But he has played well.
Tore his ACL two years in a row. Has started one full season. 4 INTs in 5 years.
Eagles will sign him for sure.
Health is definitely his big issue, but he is a physical player and tackles well. Something the Eagles don't do.
I'd like to see the Eagles bring Leon Washington in for a serious look.
If they sign him, will Desean then be forced to wear "D. Jackson"? If so, I'm completely against this move.
Action News has learned the Philadelphia Eagles will pick up Michael Vick's $1.5 million roster bonus.
Super. Bowl.
isn't that week old news?
marlin jackson? really??
pedal to the metal.
Quote from: King Cole on March 06, 2010, 05:29:25 PM
What do you think he did well then? He was poor against the run, he couldn't get off blockers, and often took bad angles. I forget which Dallas loss it was, but the one of them Barber busted a couple nice runs. Both runs were on Witherspoon. He can move pretty well and drop back into coverage, but it wasn't like he was great at it or anything. Had a great first game against the taterskins and then didn't really do much for the entire season. I just got tired of seeing him get completely engulfed by blockers without a prayer of shedding and making a play.
Bradley and Jordan are better players. Witherspoon was the 3rd best LB on the team, but that isn't saying much since the rest are garbage. I was a fan of the pickup at the time too, so I have no reason to hate on the guy. He just didn't do much.
A healthy Bradley is better but how is he going to come back from his injury. Jordan > Witherspoon :-D :-D
5 year deal for avant
Yawn.
he's a good piece, but it doesn't blow my mind
exactly. Best move of the offseason and its a yawner.
But solid because I think Avant is an important piece as well.
I hate this front office.
i wouldnt even call it a move...he was their own restricted free agent...and did anyone think for a second he wouldnt be resigned
I did. But only for one second.
IGY, yes...considering he's a guy i WANTED signed.
solid move.
he was technically already signed as they tendered him...all they did was extend him
cant believe nobody wanted to give up a second rounder for him
Glad they locked him up for a few more years. It's not front page news but it's still a good move.
good to know kolb will have him here for a few more years.
omgmcnabbandowenstogetheragain (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976780)
:facepalm:
Hopefully mcnabb will be showing off those mad air guitar skills again.
Quote
Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Eagles have agreed to pay Andrews' $4.1 million bonus, and that he has agreed to drop his 2010 base salary from $2.95 million to $1.15 million.
I can't believe they are paying his lame ass $5+ million. In other news Colts just cut Ryan Lilja.
oh now it makes sense....pay a guy who hasnt played $5 million and cut the other guy who can play to save $5 million
Reggie brown traded to Tampa Bay for a 6th rounder in 2011.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 08, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
Reggie brown traded to Tampa Bay for a 6th rounder in 2011.
Jesus...can't believe how far he fell. He wasn't anything special, but damn...to go from a starter who could make a contribution to a 6th round pick.
Now the offseason is cookin.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 08, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
Reggie brown traded to Tampa Bay for a 6th rounder in 2011.
i never understood his fall
usually its because you dont play ball with andy and joe and they start cutting your playing time as to punish you for not accepting their lowball offer. but didnt reggie sign a long term deal for what was probably below market value? and then got passed on the depth chart by hank baskett?
maybe he started hanging out with AI but couldnt shrug it off before game time
Quote
The Eagles' WR situation Listen to this article. Powered by Odiogo.com
Remember back in September when the Eagles surprised us all by keeping seven wide receivers after they made final cuts?
Well, let's just say things change quickly in the NFL. Only four of the seven remain now that the team has announced that it's traded Reggie Brown to the Bucs for an undisclosed draft pick in 2011. Multiple outlets are reporting that the Eagles will get a sixth-rounder in return.
The Birds' top three receivers are set for years to come: DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and Jason Avant, who signed a new deal with the team earlier today.
Beyond that though, there are roster spots available. Kevin Curtis is due $3.4M with a $1M roster bonus on June 1. He only saw action in three regular-season games in 2009. After returning from injury to face the 49ers in Week 15, Curtis was inactive for the final two weeks of the regular season and the playoffs. Plus he turns 32 in July.
The only other receivers on the roster are Dobson Collins, who the team signed in January after he spent most of last season on the practice squad, and Jordan Norwood, the Penn State product, who saw action in one game last season.
If they add a veteran, that player would have to be comfortable knowing he is going to be no more than the fourth wide receiver. That player could be Curtis at a lesser price.
As we mentioned Sunday, Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that the Eagles are one of the teams showing interest in Hank Baskett.
Or the Eagles could address the position in the draft. Last year, they selected Brandon Gibson in the sixth round, and he impressed everyone at training camp. Gibson was traded to the Rams, where he caught 34 balls for 348 yards. If they could find someone like him again, they'd be in good shape.
Other notes:
* According to Jim Wyatt of The Tennessean, Will Witherspoon will visit with the Titans Tuesday. The Eagles released Witherspoon on Friday, but in a radio interview on Friday, Andy Reid said there's "a chance" the team could look into bringing him back at a lesser price.
nm
See ya, Reggie! Or maybe not, if your tenure on the Bucs is anything like your tenure on the Eagles.
I could see them bringing Hank back. Reggie's gone and Curtis probably won't be here either.
HANK BASKETT HYSTERIA IS BACK BABY!
good job getting a pick for Reggie Brown. I'd like to see Baskett back, good STer for April to work with too.
I didn't understand why they let him go in the first place, unless they really thought that long ago they could get a draft pick for Brown during the offseason. But in all other aspects, Baskett was a better option because he was a better STer, which is what you want out of your #4 guy.
It was basically a money decision last year. Would have cost them $$ to cut brown nut not baskett. So he got the ax
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2010, 10:15:41 PM
Witherspoon is meeting with the Titans tomorrow
LOL, really Ed?
Quote from: KDS on March 08, 2010, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 08, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
Reggie brown traded to Tampa Bay for a 6th rounder in 2011.
i never understood his fall
usually its because you dont play ball with andy and joe and they start cutting your playing time as to punish you for not accepting their lowball offer. but didnt reggie sign a long term deal for what was probably below market value? and then got passed on the depth chart by hank baskett?
maybe he started hanging out with AI but couldnt shrug it off before game time
him and mcnabb didnt get along
and i dont think banner inc had anything to do with his fall...mcnabb stopped throwing him the ball and he isnt very good to begin with...they hung onto him thru two pathetic years...in the end tho his demise had more to do with the eagles finally getting some talent on the roster at his position...once picks were successfully used on pimp and mack he was basically cooked
brown was horribly miscast as a #1 when in reality he's a solid #3 or #4 receiver.
best of luck in tampa, though.
Anyone heard anything on Curtis? He may get cut since he is due over $4 million but he isn't a bad #3-4. I think they can get by with Maclin, Jackson, Avant, Curtis and special teamer. No need to spend a draft pick or Baskett. Really need to focus on defense in this draft.
Kevin Curtis as a #4 or fill-in player is a nice thing to have. The dude isn't a world beater, but I would feel better with him on the roster since I feel like he can competently step in if any of the top three guys get hurt.
he actually wasnt a bad #2 when we had a real #1. bottom line is like with fraudie mitchell he ends up being a wasted pick. thankfully the last two wr picks look to be gems.
get rid of curtis...they dont need a #4 wr making that kind of money...its the perfect spot to work in a younger player and use the funds elsewhere...
hes the eagles version of randel el this offseason...veteran whos basically done and making bank...bye bye
Why do you suddenly care about the Eagles' money? The #5 spot on the depth chart is just as good a place to develop young talent. I mean, I don't particularly care about Kevin Curtis, but why not keep a proven veteran there?
1. he stinks
2. the #4 guy doesnt get a lot of touches much less the #5
3. the eagles have their own cap whether the nfl does or not
4. id rather use his money to go to things like caking off pimp
5. when there is a cap again in a year i want them as far under it as humanly possibly
6. they have no chance of winning this year
7. i enjoy new blood ont he team and much prefer following that instead of washed up oldies
it's an uncapped year, mr. banner.
We're talking about the #4 receiver on the depth chart and your number one argument is 'he stinks'.
Point number 7 is actually the most compelling in my book.
id be fine overspending for antrelle rolle
kevin curtis has no bearing whatsoever on this team...and if thats the case why not use his money for something else...or bring in some new blood at 1/25 the price
Quote from: rjs246 on March 09, 2010, 08:58:42 AM
Why do you suddenly care about the Eagles' money? The #5 spot on the depth chart is just as good a place to develop young talent. I mean, I don't particularly care about Kevin Curtis, but why not keep a proven veteran there?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2010, 09:02:07 AM
1. he's white
wow, a debate over the kevin curtis. really ?
gold standard logic dictates he's gone.
gold standard logic dicates hes white and mormon and he stays
that's an andy standard. the banner/roseman resigme is going to override such things from this point on.
staggering idiocy in this thread.
curtis is a good slot receiver. if anything happens to avant they would need him to step in. and it doesn't matter what he's getting paid because we're not paying the bill.
issue is rome that he hasnt been able to stay on the field which is the overriding factor. the eagles dont keep guys over 30 that are not performing.
Unless they're named Michael Vick apparently.
Edit: Ah dammit, he isn't 30 yet. 3 more months.
i still say draft day trade for dogma.
Quote from: smeags on March 09, 2010, 10:06:38 AM
that's an andy standard. the banner/roseman resigme is going to override such things from this point on.
you can believe that if you want, but reid is the grand poobah up in that joint
and I dont know what resigme means
Marlin Jackson will be at NovaCare today after leaving Baltimore without a deal. Apparently his agent is the same as Avant's. Nice timing...
how the hell can you trust a guy with 2 torn acls? this just has to be a due diligence thing--right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
...its the perfect spot to work in a younger player and use the funds elsewhere...
But at least they still have Gibson...oh wait, that's right - they used Gibson in that stellar trade for that guy they just cut. Gave up a draft pick, too I hear.
Are you related to Gibson or something?
Quote from: JackStraw on March 09, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
...its the perfect spot to work in a younger player and use the funds elsewhere...
But at least they still have Gibson...oh wait, that's right - they used Gibson in that stellar trade for that guy they just cut. Gave up a draft pick, too I hear.
true...and there will be 40 gibsons in the draft this year...all of which id rather go with than curtis
do you want someone who can walk onto the field and produce, and who knows the system, and the quarterback trusts, and the head coach knows understands the playbook... or a rookie?
wait, don't tell me...
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
do you want someone who can walk onto the field
again, that seems to be curtis' issue. if healthy there's no question he'd be the better choice to have out there.
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
do you want someone who can walk onto the field and produce, and who knows the system, and the quarterback trusts, and the head coach knows understands the playbook... or a rookie?
wait, don't tell me...
for next year?
easily a rookie...its not even a question....who wants to see curtis' crippled old ass on the field again...in fact i hope i never see him again ever
i know kevin personally. we go to the same manicurist. he's fine. in fact, he's better than fine so stop your worrying.
damn rome, no wonder you have movie star hands.
Curtis might be another prospect to renegotiate his contract to stay.
eagles need to take a few steps back before they can go forward...kepping hangers on like curtis does not help that...same thing with witherspoon...these kinds of players are counterproductive to the big picture and where they need to go down the road
still productive veterans are definitely counterproductive.
what we need is more rookies who don't know the system because as we all know the only way to move forward is to move backward.
wait, what?
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you were cute when you still had hair.
:-D
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2010, 02:14:11 PM
still productive veterans are definitely counterproductive.
what we need is more rookies who don't know the system because as we all know the only way to move forward is to move backward.
wait, what?
what you need is young talent to push more young talent to find out who is going to win you a superbowl in three/four years...30+ year old veterans who are way past there prime do nothing for you right now...when you get to the point where you need some veteran leadership to win in the postseason then a guy like curtis or witherspoon can be valuable...but for next year they are pretty much anti progressive
enough with this 30 year old crap...rome?
rome be pushin jamie moyer
logan's run ! :boom
i could go off on a tangent here but it's much funnier to watch reese & igy agree on things.
yeah it will take me a bit to learn the member interaction histories to know who is who but i am catching on really quick.
reese unlike munson and cole is semi cogent some of the time
cool, thanks for the heads up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2010, 04:26:20 PM
reese unlike munson and cole is semi cogent some of the time
ha--please. tell smeags how much you really agree with me, but just to love to argue the opposite to pass the day away
Quote from: charlie on March 09, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
Are you related to Gibson or something?
Its true - twins separated at birth - family forgot me as an infant at an Autogrill rest stop after a trip out of Germany on the Autobahn
Quote from: reese125 on March 09, 2010, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2010, 04:26:20 PM
reese unlike munson and cole is semi cogent some of the time
ha--please. tell smeags how much you really agree with me, but just to love to argue the opposite to pass the day away
actually i rarely ever do...you just arent fully retarded like them...cole actually isnt even as much retarded as he is comnpletely wrong 100% of the time...munson on the other hand is a sub human
in summation:
from most mongoloid to least
1. munson
2. cole
3. reece
difference is I hardly argue with anyone on this board because I spit straight facts--always have always will.
you just cant admit that you love me to death--always have always will
you would move way down in the rankings if you stopped trying so hard to talk like a rapper from east new york brooklyn circa 1994 and more like the huey lewis you really are
it def is hip to be square
bwhaha--yeah thats me
hold on let me post a tupac lyric to really emphasize what I mean to try and fit in
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Ok, i think i got it now, igy, cole, munson & reese are all former members of the TATErs royal order right ?
you don't remember igs (Tha Ghost of Leonard Tose) and munson (SIMON_DOUGLAS_9053)?
Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
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Post of the year.
Damn
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 09, 2010, 08:52:47 PM
you don't remember igs (Tha Ghost of Leonard Tose) and munson (SIMON_DOUGLAS_9053)?
haaaaa, i was right.
FWIW. I'm convinced Salpal just makes shtein up because he sucks as a reporter and has no talent or ability to fall back on. We'll see with this one.
QuoteReport: Seahawks want McNabb or Kolb, no one wants Vick
Posted by Mike Florio on March 10, 2010 9:10 AM ET
During a Tuesday appearance with Mike Missanelli of 97.5 The Fanatic in Philly, ESPN's Sal Paolantonio dropped a couple of bombs regarding the current quarterback situation in Philly.
Paolantonio said that the Seattle Seahawks have been contacting the Eagles "non-stop" regarding quarterbacks Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb. As we reported last week, the Eagles have been hearing from multiple teams regarding McNabb, but the Eagles have not yet entertained any offers.
But offers apparently will come; Paolantonio says that Seattle coach Pete Carroll wants to win right away, and in Carroll's mind that includes getting McNabb or Kolb. And Paolantonio says that he now firmly believes that McNabb will be traded by the Eagles at some point in the offseason.
Meanwhile, Paolantonio also said that the well has gone dry on Mike Vick, and that no one is interested in trading for him. "St. Louis has dried up," Paolantonio said. "Buffalo, dried up."
It appears, then, that the Eagles are banking on something occurring later in the year to create a market for Vick. Possibilities include a starting quarterback struggling in offseason drills, a torn ACL injury during red-jersey practices or the preseason, or the decision of a 40-year-old quarterback who runs a very similar offense not to return for another season come August.
agree. hes been jonesing for a solid bite of breaking news for months on end
i for one hope he's right.
on mcnabb anyway
I'm not strongly on one side of the fence or the other with McNabb, I could take or leave him for one more year. To me the biggest thing comes down to maxing the return on trading him. They have more holes in the starting line up than any off season in recent memory and haven't done anything with FAs so far, so it would be good if they could get a 1st rounder for him.
One thing that concerns me about McNabb is that because he's been fairly healthy the last couple of years people don't tend to think of him as injury prone anymore. If he were to get a major injury this year he'd be right back to fragile again, and the comp would would take a hit. Next year he'll be tagged and auctioned. Sell high now probably gets the best return.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 10, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
I'm not strongly on one side of the fence or the other with McNabb, I could take or leave him for one more year. To me the biggest thing comes down to maxing the return on trading him. They have more holes in the starting line up than any off season in recent memory and haven't done anything with FAs so far, so it would be good if they could get a 1st rounder for him.
^ this.
i have been a mcnabb fan since day one. i wanted no parts of ricky williams at that draft. we had staley who porved himself on the worst offense in the nfl two straight years at the time.
without getting into a long story i just feel it's time to move on. we went as far as we can with him as the qb. not saying i think kolb is the answer but get something in return for mcnabb and try to re-tool the roster. shoot, a high 2nd rounder would do it for me.
QuoteJeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer reports via twitter that free agent cornerback Marlin Jackson has left Philadelphia. McLane said there was mutual interest between Jackson and the Eagles. But McLane says Jackson is leaving to visit the Jets.
Quotenot saying i think kolb is the answer
Is it just me or does Kolb give off kind of a Sex Cannon vibe these days? :paranoid
whoa
considering the discussion in the free agency thread in the other forum i thought i'd put up these links for linebacker prospects for discussion purposes.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010ILB.php (http://walterfootball.com/draft2010ILB.php)
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010OLB.php (http://walterfootball.com/draft2010OLB.php)
Sean Witherspoon please.
Quote from: smeags on March 10, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
QuoteJeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer reports via twitter that free agent cornerback Marlin Jackson has left Philadelphia. McLane said there was mutual interest between Jackson and the Eagles. But McLane says Jackson is leaving to visit the Jets.
Wouldn't accept the your-coming-off-an-injury-lowball-offer. Shocker.
Schefter:
QuoteFiled to ESPN: Eagles agreed to a two-year deal with free-agent DB and former Indianapolis Colt Marlin Jackson.
Witherspoon signed an 11 million dollar deal with the Titans.
WASHED UP!
And the Titans are talking contract with Babin too.
Quote from: phillycrew on March 10, 2010, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 10, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
QuoteJeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer reports via twitter that free agent cornerback Marlin Jackson has left Philadelphia. McLane said there was mutual interest between Jackson and the Eagles. But McLane says Jackson is leaving to visit the Jets.
Wouldn't accept the your-coming-off-an-injury-lowball-offer. Shocker.
Foot meet mouth.
schefter > mclane
Sean Jones visiting Tampa Bay
NFL Network is replaying Superbowl XXXIX against the patriots saturday at 8. I'll skip because ill end up offing myself if i watch that again
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2010, 09:51:16 AM
NFL Network is replaying Superbowl XXXIX against the patriots saturday at 8. I'll skip because ill end up offing myself if i watch that again
^^^^
DEAD HORSE
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NFL network said that as far as the QB situation goes, Eagles starting prices for QB's...
Donovan: at least a 1st rounder
Vick: At least a 2nd rounder
Kolb: 2 first rounders..ha
if thats true and thats a big IF then banner inc has just made my head explode for the 4,276th time
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
NFL network said that as far as the QB situation goes, Eagles starting prices for QB's...
Donovan: at least a 1st rounder
Vick: At least a 2nd rounder
Kolb: 2 first rounders..ha
what
the
farg ?!?
No wonder nobody wants Vick. Sheesh.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 11, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
NFL network said that as far as the QB situation goes, Eagles starting prices for QB's...
Donovan: at least a 1st rounder
Vick: At least a 2nd rounder
Kolb: 2 first rounders..ha
Looks like they are getting advice from some guys in my fantasy league.
Eagles sign WR Chad Hall!! Yes!!
Air Force.
5' 8"
180 lbs.
Named Chad.
He's definitely white.
Mormon, went to BYU also i think at some point
jesus farging christ, who's next the osmond brothers ?
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 03:03:28 PM
jesus farging christ, who's next the osmond brothers ?
the fighting amendola's
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look test ftw
Video of him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EARv0CkKjiI
next Wes Welkerzzz!!
Wait a minute..they signed this guy to a 3 year deal?!? I love this team so much.
I'd much rather see him get concussed on a punt return instead of Pimp.
In other news, Andra Davis was cut by the Broncos today...might be a guy worth taking a look at.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on March 11, 2010, 04:17:04 PM
I'd much rather see him get concussed on a punt return instead of Pimp.
That's so dumb for so many reasons.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on March 11, 2010, 04:17:04 PM
I'd much rather see him get concussed on a punt return instead of Pimp.
That's so dumb for so many reasons.
Great contribution to the conversation.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
In other news, Andra Davis was cut by the Broncos today...might be a guy worth taking a look at.
Andra Davis is going to be 32 this season. And he's a linebacker. So.....no chance.
1. He's not making the team
2. If he makes the team, he'll never see the field
3. Why the hell would you rather see a guy who hasnt seen a football field in 2 years return punts instead of the best PR in the game??
4. Blow me
4. that's hot
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 11, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
In other news, Andra Davis was cut by the Broncos today...might be a guy worth taking a look at.
Andra Davis is going to be 32 this season. And he's a linebacker. So.....no chance.
Maybe you havent heard of Levon Kirkland. Or Jeremiah Trotter. Or Jeremiah Trotter again.
i need to go look at the phillies website to counter the depression the eagles put me in. die-hard doesnt have such an opiton.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:24:05 PM
1. He's not making the team
2. If he makes the team, he'll never see the field
3. Why the hell would you rather see a guy who hasnt seen a football field in 2 years return punts instead of the best PR in the game??
4. Blow me
1. 80% probability you are right
2. If he makes the team it'll be on special teams, so he'll see the field quite a bit since the defense is going to be a sieve this year
3. Because its too easy for Pimp to get hurt returning punts. He's a more valuable WR than PR.
4. Thanks for the offer but I don't swing that way.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 11, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
In other news, Andra Davis was cut by the Broncos today...might be a guy worth taking a look at.
Andra Davis is going to be 32 this season. And he's a linebacker. So.....no chance.
Maybe you havent heard of Levon Kirkland. Or Jeremiah Trotter. Or Jeremiah Trotter again.
Exceptions, not norms.
Maybe you havent heard of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 11, 2010, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 11, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
In other news, Andra Davis was cut by the Broncos today...might be a guy worth taking a look at.
Andra Davis is going to be 32 this season. And he's a linebacker. So.....no chance.
Maybe you havent heard of Levon Kirkland. Or Jeremiah Trotter. Or Jeremiah Trotter again.
Exceptions, not norms.
Blow him.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:36:12 PM
Maybe you havent heard of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Maybe you aren't understanding my original point. Would Andra Davis upgrade the talent level of the linebacker core? Absolutely. Are the Eagles, based on their actions, interested in improving the talent in the LB core? Not particularly, and the interest steadily declines with the age of the linebacker.
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
i need to go look at the phillies website to counter the depression the eagles put me in. die-hard doesnt have such an opiton.
Nah, instead I decided to started a 2010 Mets Season Thread and began it with news of Reyes being out 2-8 weeks. Depressed? Me?? Nahhhh.
normally i would worry about a person in your situation, but since you're so level headed and emotionally stable, i'm not at all worried
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 11, 2010, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
i need to go look at the phillies website to counter the depression the eagles put me in. die-hard doesnt have such an opiton.
Nah, instead I decided to started a 2010 Mets Season Thread and began it with news of Reyes being out 2-8 weeks. Depressed? Me?? Nahhhh.
thats because you have a joyous event coming up that will usher in a time of happiness and trump any misery from your sport teams. me, i'm 41, slightly overweight & my football team is making me vomit.
Fargas and Baskett coming in for visits tomorrow.
WHY THE farg WOULD BASKETT NEED TO VISIT?
That is a really good question.
because he doesnt remember philly....just like philly doesnt remember him
Id like to see them sign Fargas. I think he still runs hard and will make a decent 3rd down back
Quote from: reese125 on March 11, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
because he doesnt remember philly....just like philly doesnt remember him
Id like to see them sign Fargas. I think he still runs hard and will make a decent 3rd down back
He had decent stats for a guy that only played part-time last season.
How could anyone forget the hysteria?
I'd be very happy with Fargas
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 11, 2010, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 11, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
because he doesnt remember philly....just like philly doesnt remember him
Id like to see them sign Fargas. I think he still runs hard and will make a decent 3rd down back
He had decent stats for a guy that only played part-time last season.
his football career is summed up on one play--the missed onside kick catch. hes junk and becomes even more junk with the receivers the eagles have now...unless its purely special teams..sure why not.
it actually wouldn't be the worst thing ever since they have no wide receiver size in the redzone. oh yeah, i forgot our superstar can't be traded qb doesn't have the ability to throw a fade
even with his size and donovans miraculous ability to throw a fade pattern, unless hes wide open--- baskett doesnt have the skill to get body position on a corner nor the hands for a jump ball like that. he just not good.
Baskett could be useful on onsides kicks.
Hank probably insisted on the "visit" because this is one and only time to feel like an actual nfl free agent
lol at Baskett needing a visit.
Fargas would be an interesting pick up. I wouldn't mind that too much.
fargas = ok
baskett = fail
QuotePeter King reported earlier today that L.T. could visit the Eagles and Saints next week
Wow, I was reading PFT and they said that teams are starting to inquire about Raiders LB Kirk Morrison because he was only tendered at a 3rd round level.
Get him.
Give that 3rd up and bring Morrison in please.
give up a 2nd, they suck at those anyway
Kirk? Has to be white.
is he the guy the eagles were rumored to be thinking they were getting when they drafted Matt McCoy?
Quote from: SunMo on March 11, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
give up a 2nd, they suck at those anyway
I believe the Eagles actually meant to draft Morrison in the 2nd a few years ago rather than Matt McCoy and got him and Morrison's names mixed up.
That's the only logical explanation for missing on McCoy
Stop saying what SunMo is saying.
LOL, thats what i always thought Freak. No One knew who Mccoy was, but Morrison was the Beast for SDS.
god how mad would you be if you thought you drafted this black stud and all of the sudden this cross eyed, bleach blonde farg shows up
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 11, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
QuotePeter King reported earlier today that L.T. could visit the Eagles and Saints next week
LT in an Eagles uniform taking handoffs from Donovan McNabb or Kevin Kolb would just be kind of sad.
willie mays on the mets, carlton on the twins kind of sad
For real. Based on what I saw last year he's got nothing left. He's one aND done at this point.
one a done for sure
stewart kirk and tracy at LB next year
Quote from: SunMo on March 11, 2010, 08:37:01 PM
one a done for sure
That's it. Where's my whoopin stick?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 11, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
Kirk? Has to be white.
No he is definitely black. Get him now, dude would be the best LB they have had here since Willie T.
QuoteEagles, Saints could make a run at Ray Edwards
Posted by Mike Florio on March 11, 2010 9:44 PM ET
As the Vikings try to upgrade their roster with the addition of running back LaDainian Tomlinson, they might have to worry about another team trying to pilfer one of their restricted free agents.
Bob Grotz of the Delaware County Times recently reported that the Eagles "are expected" to make a run at Minnesota defensive end Ray Edwards. The four-year veteran has been tendered at the first-round level.
The Saints also have been mentioned as a team that might pursue Edwards, which would be an intriguing development given that Edwards said he would have targeted Saints quarterback Drew Brees for late and/or low hits if he had known that Saints defenders were knocking around Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre.
Of course, Edwards might not be interested in leaving. But a long-term contract tends to change a guy's mind -- so perhaps it would be wise for the Vikings to work out a multi-year contract with Edwards before a team drafting in the bottom third of round one signs him to a deal containing a poison pill of the very kind that the Vikings concocted four years ago.
i don't see the eagles making a move on any RFA's.
Quote from: smeags on March 12, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
i don't see the eagles making a move on any RFA's.
This.. They value draft picks too much.
Also saw Mayock talking about the draft schedule now, and how teams like the Pats/Eagles who historically do well in the later rounds are not happy with the 3 day format, since it will leave more time for other teams to do their homework. It very well may make all later picks worth less than they were before.
that's pretty assinine. if the pats and eagles are so good at doing their homework then they'll still have an advantage
I dont want to hear anything about how good the eagles are historically in the draft until they win a friggin superbowl
yeah but banner says they have the best team on paper.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 12, 2010, 08:49:44 AM
that's pretty assinine. if the pats and eagles are so good at doing their homework then they'll still have an advantage
basically what Mayock was saying where some teams kinda pick blindly and dont have the best scouting, they're getting an extra day to review tape/reports on lower ranked players. I can see it, sure it'll help the teams that historically love those rounds, but to give a team extra time if they're drafting earlier should mean they'll get those guys before a team like the Pats have a chance to draft. I just thought it was an interesting look at how the new format changes strategy
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 12, 2010, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: smeags on March 12, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
i don't see the eagles making a move on any RFA's.
This.. They value draft picks too much.
Also saw Mayock talking about the draft schedule now, and how teams like the Pats/Eagles who historically do well in the later rounds are not happy with the 3 day format, since it will leave more time for other teams to do their homework. It very well may make all later picks worth less than they were before.
On the other hand, they gave up an first and a fourth + for Peters last year. Certain positions they place a premium on and DE is one of them (QB, OT, DE,CB). I'm just not sure Edwards is worth a first. It comes down to if you want more of a known commodity, or more of a risk with a higher upside (and also the risk you won't be able to get someone you particularly want in the draft). The move wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles think Edwards is a really solid DE.
Hank Baskett signed again....Super Bowl
Sign Fargas fargheads
F Fargas...Leon Washington would make a good addition
Yup, with the farged up leg, he would fit right in.
I'm ignorant on that point. He's a gimp? The injury was that bad?
The chances Andy Reid signs another Florida State running back after the Lorenzo Booker debacle are less than zero.
And I agree with you.
Get.
dude had a compound leg fracture. you think the eagles are going to give up a 2nd rounder for a rb and offer him a contract? Jets will keep him
a compound fracture is just a grisly broken bone. bones heal, tendons do not.
Freddie Mitchell
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 12, 2010, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 12, 2010, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: smeags on March 12, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
i don't see the eagles making a move on any RFA's.
This.. They value draft picks too much.
Also saw Mayock talking about the draft schedule now, and how teams like the Pats/Eagles who historically do well in the later rounds are not happy with the 3 day format, since it will leave more time for other teams to do their homework. It very well may make all later picks worth less than they were before.
On the other hand, they gave up an first and a fourth + for Peters last year. Certain positions they place a premium on and DE is one of them (QB, OT, DE,CB). I'm just not sure Edwards is worth a first. It comes down to if you want more of a known commodity, or more of a risk with a higher upside (and also the risk you won't be able to get someone you particularly want in the draft). The move wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles think Edwards is a really solid DE.
yeah but peters was a trade and is more of an exception. don't know who they have made such a move on (RFA) and given up picks. they may have but i just cant think of who.
plus i am more focusing on this year. i just don't see them doing that, if anything they are looking to get additional picks.
Quote from: smeags on March 12, 2010, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 12, 2010, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 12, 2010, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: smeags on March 12, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
i don't see the eagles making a move on any RFA's.
This.. They value draft picks too much.
Also saw Mayock talking about the draft schedule now, and how teams like the Pats/Eagles who historically do well in the later rounds are not happy with the 3 day format, since it will leave more time for other teams to do their homework. It very well may make all later picks worth less than they were before.
On the other hand, they gave up an first and a fourth + for Peters last year. Certain positions they place a premium on and DE is one of them (QB, OT, DE,CB). I'm just not sure Edwards is worth a first. It comes down to if you want more of a known commodity, or more of a risk with a higher upside (and also the risk you won't be able to get someone you particularly want in the draft). The move wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles think Edwards is a really solid DE.
yeah but peters was a trade and is more of an exception. don't know who they have made such a move on (RFA) and given up picks. they may have but i just cant think of who.
plus i am more focusing on this year. i just don't see them doing that, if anything they are looking to get additional picks.
I can't think of any RFAs they've signed either and it's been uncommon around the league in general. But this year is different with no cap - one disincentive had usually been needing to give up picks, then in addition awarding a fat new contract. With no cap, some teams might not baulk so much, especially the final 8 teams who are limited in the FA market and could turn to RFAs. Another factor is the huge increase in the numbers of RFAs this year.
I don't have a sense of how it will pan out but I can see a number of reasons that signing RFAs are more attractive now than before. For the Eagles, they have so many holes to fill among the starters (LB,S,DE, and maybe a good G/C) I can also see wanting a vet who they know can come in right away as a starter rather than an unproven draft pick.
conventional wisdom would make one think that as far as bringing in a vet but this is the eagles and they always have to prove to the world that they are smarter then everyone else.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Fargas_in_holding_pattern.html
Quote from: reese125 on March 12, 2010, 09:04:26 AM
I dont want to hear anything about how good the eagles are historically in the draft until they win a friggin superbowl
or until the eagles start having historically great drafts under the normal format
The Eagles couldn't come to terms with Fargas and left without a deal. Most likely one won't be reached according to the latest reports. Oh well. He would have been a solid addition. I guess they'll just go to the next cheapest option.
Quote from: King Cole on March 12, 2010, 04:33:32 PM
The Eagles couldn't come to terms with Fargas and left without a deal. Most likely one won't be reached according to the latest reports. Oh well. He would have been a solid addition. I guess they'll just go to the next cheapest option.
Did you even bother to read the rest of the thread or did you just post because eh, you felt like it?
QuoteFargas wouldn't have been heavily involved in the ballcarrying rotation with McCoy and fullback Leonard Weaver in tow, but he would have been a change of pace from both tailbacks.
He would have been a nice addition but once again he'd be playing second fiddle to two other guys. He's always been solid in that shtein hole of Oakland.
The latter.
haha, called up a local Acme to see if they had something I was looking for and they told me that they are having Jamaal Jackson in today to sign autographs and play with the kids.
Interesting to see how they address this position. Jackson clearly wont be ready for the start of the season
I thought they were going to scoop up that bowling ball Fraley, but Reid is probably creaming himself now with thought of taking a projected 3rd rd center in the 1st
(http://z.about.com/d/cleveland/1/7/V/T/-/-/Fraley_Hank.JPG)
bowling ball
I have horrid memories of Fraley getting mugged by just about any nose he faced. If I remember correctly, teams would just start stacking any tackle on top of him, and he'd usually get moved into the backfield.
couldnt agree with that assessment any more. jamaal jackson is a slight upgrade to fraley and I actually look forward to his replacement
Quote from: reese125 on March 13, 2010, 11:01:09 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/cleveland/1/7/V/T/-/-/Fraley_Hank.JPG)
bowling ball
QuoteHank Fraley could soon visit the Chiefs
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2010 1:01 PM ET
After unexpectedly getting cut by the Browns, veteran safety Hank Fraley is looking for a new team.
His agent, Ralph Cindrich, says that Fraley could visit the Chiefs on Tuesday, if a deal isn't completed soon with the Rams.
Fraley visited the Rams earlier in the week.
The Steelers also have expressed an interest in Fraley, but no visit has been arranged.
veteran safety? The FO needs to look at this guy, they had horrible play from the safeties last year. This Fraley guy has some good size for safety.
-- Mike Bell will be in town tomorrow
-- If you've ever visited The700Level.com for Eagles stuff, they're partnering with CSN (http://www.the700level.com/2010/03/site-news-the700levelcom-partners-with-comcast-sportsnet.html)
That could have been you, Ed.
But then again, you just don't know corporate whoring, so...
bell is coming in today and staying overnight to talk to reporters tomorrow...no deal announced but it sure sounds like one is forthcoming
of course even if it is new orleans can match
Is there a less exciting player in the NFL than Mike Bell?
rock cartwright
His name alone gives him a higher q-rating than Mike farging Bell.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 16, 2010, 02:12:11 PM
Is there a less exciting player in the NFL than Mike Bell?
winston justice
Its hard to get excited about any RB they bring in between Weaver and McCoy I don't see too many other carries available. As we all know this team does not run the ball that much.
signed a 1-yr $1.7M offer sheet w/ incentives that could push it over $2M. NO has 7 days to match or get nothing in return
i read this morning that the top 8 teams from last year cannot sign another teams restricted free agent unless they lose one of their own first. did not know that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 16, 2010, 05:37:50 PM
i read this morning that the top 8 teams from last year cannot sign another teams restricted free agent unless they lose one of their own first. did not know that.
I think they can if the RFA isn't tendered. There was a point where Sproles, Jahri Evans and Dumerville were non-tendered RFAs, but I'm not sure the first 2 weren't locked up long term before they could sign an offer sheet.
Edit: come to think of it, why don't the Eagles give up their 1st and 3rd for Dumervil? Maybe move Cole to the left.
not sure if this is old news or not.
QuoteSaints RB Mike Bell has signed an offer sheet from the Eagles ... Saints have one week to match offer
nm, it is.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 16, 2010, 06:13:07 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 16, 2010, 05:37:50 PM
i read this morning that the top 8 teams from last year cannot sign another teams restricted free agent unless they lose one of their own first. did not know that.
Edit: come to think of it, why don't the Eagles give up their 1st and 3rd for Dumervil? Maybe move Cole to the left.
not after giving up a 4th for tapp.
i think id give up a 1 and 3 for demeco ryans before dumervil anyway
you can also get thomas howard for a second
thomas davis for a 1 & 3
oj atogwae for free (with right to match)
kirk morrison for a 3
dqwell jackson for a 2
jerome harrison for a 2
richard marshall for a 2
ray edwards for a 1
not saying id do any or all of those...but you can also maybe work with some of these teams to lower the price...especially with a jackson or harrison..anway there are some really good restricted options still out there for the eagles
I like Dquell and Morrison, get one of them
nm
No shtein?
Tennessee signed Babin to a 1-yr $1M deal. The Eagles have 7 days to match...
ok, who has heard anything about this rumored three way deal involving mcnabb ? i heard something mentioned on foreskin and he didn't shoot it down. for whatever thats worth.
Are you talking about the Seattle deal/rumor with Reggie Bush or is there another one floating?
Seattle just got Whitehurst, so they're probably out of the trade talks now
nm
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Are you talking about the Seattle deal/rumor with Reggie Bush or is there another one floating?
What? Jesus.
once you get a gay baby it all goes downhill.....
it was with seattle and new orleans end result being we got the 32nd pick. just wondered because neck beard didnt shoot the rumor down with the automatic hey nitwit comment.
Quote from: KDS on March 17, 2010, 07:40:45 PM
once you get a gay baby it all goes downhill.....
I will admit that I don't normally find your sense of humor to be anything other than sad, but this 'reese has a gay son' thing may actually have some legs. I find myself snickering at it even though I should know better.
wait, resse has a pickle sniffer namesake ?
god willing
My 1 year old is gay and I love him with all my heart. I think his twin sister is too.
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
My 1 year old is gay and I love him with all my heart. I think his twin sister is too.
reality show
Quote from: rjs246 on March 17, 2010, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: KDS on March 17, 2010, 07:40:45 PM
once you get a gay baby it all goes downhill.....
I will admit that I don't normally find your sense of humor to be anything other than sad, but this 'reese has a gay son' thing may actually have some legs. I find myself snickering at it even though I should know better.
You should know better, but dont blame yourself.
QuoteThere are only a few people who can truly appreciate how unlikely it was for me to get drunk in a noteworthy fashion today. I'm not there yet, but I am much further along than I ever expected to be. farg you adulthood. I'm in charge of this shtein.
Quote from: smeags on March 17, 2010, 07:52:03 PM
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
My 1 year old is gay and I love him with all my heart. I think his twin sister is too.
reality show
in the works
nice, move over whoredashians !
at least your son wont be farging his sister
hopefully mds will and we can finally have passover dinner together
Quote from: reese125 on March 17, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
My 1 year old is gay and I love him with all my heart. I think his twin sister is too.
good thing you're not from the south otherwise your kids wouldn't want to sex each other up and you'd be the laughing stock of the entire neighborhood.
damn. didn't see igys post. mines is still better.
Darren Howard cut.
... and Curtis.
Not surprising at all.
Howard's been decent the last two years, but I'm sure the money he was being paid was too much.
i love it...shed the old garbage and start over...next move juqua then mcnabb and the transformation will be complete
man are the eagles getting young....they may go into the season as the youngest team in the nfl
yeah, that's awesome news.
veterans are teh suck.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
i love it...shed the old garbage and start over...next move juqua then mcnabb and the transformation will be complete
amen. most addition by subtraction ever this offseason. mcnabb would be the coup de grace.
if they are gonna suck i want to at least have something to follow forward...i will be seriously depressed if mcnabb is the qb next year...whereas having cobb would be must see tv
for me id much rather be the sixers right now than the flyers or eagles
Evidently it's lost on all of you that the Eagles are only cutting these guys solely because of money. I guess that's cause for celebration if you're a Joe Banner fan.
Actually they've been cutting them because of their production for the most part. Who in the past few weeks has been cut that was producing at a high- farg that- somewhat consistent level? I'll be one of the first to bash the FO for being cheap, but the guys they are dumping are dead weight. Get rid of them and put some hungry kid in there place this spring/summer.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 18, 2010, 08:12:53 PM
Actually they've been cutting them because of their production for the most part. Who in the past few weeks has been cut that was producing at a high- farg that- somewhat consistent level? I'll be one of the first to bash the FO for being cheap, but the guys they are dumping are dead weight. Get rid of them and put some hungry kid in there place this spring/summer.
Howard has 16.5 sacks and 3 FF in the last two years. He proved that he wasn't an every play guy anymore but was definitely still serviceable in a rotational role.
Of course they have 3 other guys like that already at the position, and my guess is Howard was making the most coin out of all of them.
Witherspoon and Howard were both productive. Curtis, Westbrook & Andrews weren't productive because they were injured.
All five had huge money coming to them. That's the common thread here.
in an uncapped year, when anything is possible salary wise, the eagles go the opposite route and choose to take this opportunity to cut all their mistakes without cap ramifications.
gold standard son
they know they have no chance at a superbowl so they are cutting old injured mostly unproductive veterans and setting themselves up nicely for when there is a cap again....this is the perfect time to do this as there is no penalty for it...taterskins have done the same thing at an ever bigger rate and no one would ever accuse them of being cheap
if they really cared about money they would cut assante or trade donovan for a 3rd...shtein they renogotiated with stacey andrews rather than cut because hes young and if not inured can be a valuable player
if they were in the superbowl last year id be going ballistic but they arent even close to the best team in the division much less the nfl...ill also be pissed if in two years under the new cap if they dont make a huge splash in FA ....but for now this is the way to go
this also makes it more promising that donovan will be gone come draft weekend....and before they can truly move forward that is what must happen
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
if they really cared about money
i should say that they absolutely do care about money to a fault...but i dont believe that is what is happening here....altho i would not be surprised at all to see them not be a player in the 2011 -12 -13 FA markets...and if that happens they should be and will be crucified....BUT....right here right now in a football sense only they are doing all the right things this offseason
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
they know they have no chance at a superbowl so they are cutting old injured mostly unproductive veterans and setting themselves up nicely for when there is a cap again....this is the perfect time to do this as there is no penalty for it...taterskins have done the same thing at an ever bigger rate and no one would ever accuse them of being cheap
if they really cared about money they would cut assante or trade donovan for a 3rd...shtein they renogotiated with stacey andrews rather than cut because hes young and if not inured can be a valuable player
if they were in the superbowl last year id be going ballistic but they arent even close to the best team in the division much less the nfl...ill also be pissed if in two years under the new cap if they dont make a huge splash in FA ....but for now this is the way to go
this also makes it more promising that donovan will be gone come draft weekend....and before they can truly move forward that is what must happen
cutting those players has nothing to do with letting mcnabb go. damn you're putting in a valiant effort here selling mcnabb being traded.
IGY is stroking himself wicked with the hope of 5 gettin dealt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2010, 06:43:11 PMman are the eagles getting young....they may go into the season as the youngest team in the nfl
They were already in the bottom 25% on opening day, and with the latest cuts, they now have only four guys on their roster that were born in the 70s (McNabb, Akers, Juqua and Sheldon)...
lol easy droppin bombs
respect
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 18, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
they know they have no chance at a superbowl so they are cutting old injured mostly unproductive veterans and setting themselves up nicely for when there is a cap again....this is the perfect time to do this as there is no penalty for it...taterskins have done the same thing at an ever bigger rate and no one would ever accuse them of being cheap
if they really cared about money they would cut assante or trade donovan for a 3rd...shtein they renogotiated with stacey andrews rather than cut because hes young and if not inured can be a valuable player
if they were in the superbowl last year id be going ballistic but they arent even close to the best team in the division much less the nfl...ill also be pissed if in two years under the new cap if they dont make a huge splash in FA ....but for now this is the way to go
this also makes it more promising that donovan will be gone come draft weekend....and before they can truly move forward that is what must happen
I tend to agree. If Banner ever meant anything by "the definition of insanity" then I think it is becoming clear this is what he meant. Nothing to do with Reid or McNabb individually. The same format of trying to fill weaknesses with free agents that haven't panned out wasn't working. Now I think the organization is ready to build something young from the ground up and try again instead of just patching holes every year. At least I hope so, because the team is far away.
Now if the team can unload McNabb for some actual value, then that is just more young talent going to be added via the draft. Then there will be something to get excited about. The next best thing to having an already great team is having a young up and coming team with a lot of talent.
Maybe it's just me but I think I'd rather see all this young and up coming talent spend the next few years growing with an actual NFL QB leading the team and not someone who more likely than not will be almost average at best.
McNabb will only be here one more year anyway if he stays. But I really hope someone trades for him. It would be nice to come out of the draft with 3 players in the first 2 rounds. I'd love a linebacker and safety of the future to be two of those.
If they get a 1st rounder for him I wouldn't be too mad about it. But i doubt they will.
I agree with IGY on this right now this is not a Super Bowl team and it is much more exciting to see some new blood. I also agree with the McNabb thing, just get rid of him already.
Quote from: Munson on March 18, 2010, 11:17:07 PM
Maybe it's just me but I think I'd rather see all this young and up coming talent spend the next few years growing with an actual NFL QB leading the team and not someone who more likely than not will be almost average at best.
no for the next few years you want the team to grow around their future qb...the skill position players (as well as an oline) needs to become one with cobb...not go thru motions and flame out again with mcnabb who is gone after next year anyway...obviously cobb could suck but you invested highly in him for a reason and now they are at almost a perfect spot to turn the team over to him and fiond out what up...right now they dont completely blow where they are going to damage cobb but they are are also nowhere near good enough to win anything with mcnabb...THIS IS THE TIME
I would love for them to grow around their future QB. But that guy isnt' on the roster right now.
Kolb isn't going to suck, but he's not going to be good enough to lead the team anywhere. He'll be on that Trent Dilfer level where he'll need a shut down bomb ass defense to have any hope of winning a SB. And that's not going to happen here with the lack of emphasis put on the LBs.
I'd rather the young guys have someone decent throwing them the ball.
you cant even piss straight much less have any idea as to what cobb is going to be
and just to be clear cobb isnt going to suck but you want someone decent throwing him the ball?...doesnt not sucking at minimum mean decent?...and why would you want mcnabb on the team portruding his awful demeanor on the youngs guys and plowing and tilling fields with his passes
Quote from: Munson on March 19, 2010, 05:52:06 AM
Kolb isn't going to suck, but he's not going to be good enough to lead the team anywhere.
you just described 90% of the qb's that have ever played in the league...way to go out on a limb...just admit as everyone else has that you have no clue as to how good cobb is going to be
and regardless of everything else the fact is the eagles gave up a lot for him and they didnt do it to have him back up for four years then leave...the good thing about cobb is he has been groomed like they used to in the old days before monster signing bonuses catapulted draft picks into a starting position way before they are ready...the planets are aligned both in the state of the franchise and where cobb sits in his own career for him to be the man right now
this is all fascinating.
i don't really see an issue with anyone the eagles have released so far. howard was doing ok but is he worth the money he was going to get ? it's not cheap to cut a guy who you think is grossly overpaid. it's smart. and this uncapped season battlecry is crap. who gives a farg about it being an uncapped year, if a guy is not worth the money it's assinine to spend it. period.
the team is in their minds cutting dead weight and if darren howard is your best arguement against that then you lost before you started typing.
please though, don't take this as a defense of the tin foil standard. i am not a fan of them at all. i want reid gone and i blame him for our failures more than anyone. banner to me is a shtien covered weasel IMO. rome you would know that personally from hearing me rail on them at the tailgates.
i just don't think the cuts they have made so far are just money cuts.
agree
howard played pretty well against the run last year and got a couple sacks, but he'll be running on fumes this year as that positions numbers almost always declines. he is not worth that much, much less any kind of serious extension.
they just got tapp who will probably takes his place on some downs and be moved around the line, which sets them up nicely to go DE first or second rd
Bye Bye Babin. I think this guy is worth $1Mill, but what do I know?
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Eagles_wont_match_Babin_offer.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Eagles_wont_match_Babin_offer.html)
Quote from: methdeez on March 19, 2010, 01:07:11 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Eagles_wont_match_Babin_offer.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Eagles_wont_match_Babin_offer.html)
QuoteWednesday, March 17, 2010
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 19, 2010, 07:02:53 AM
you cant even piss straight much less have any idea as to what cobb is going to be
and just to be clear cobb isnt going to suck but you want someone decent throwing him the ball?...doesnt not sucking at minimum mean decent?...and why would you want mcnabb on the team portruding his awful demeanor on the youngs guys and plowing and tilling fields with his passes
Quote from: Munson on March 19, 2010, 05:52:06 AM
Kolb isn't going to suck, but he's not going to be good enough to lead the team anywhere.
you just described 90% of the qb's that have ever played in the league...way to go out on a limb...just admit as everyone else has that you have no clue as to how good cobb is going to be
and regardless of everything else the fact is the eagles gave up a lot for him and they didnt do it to have him back up for four years then leave...the good thing about cobb is he has been groomed like they used to in the old days before monster signing bonuses catapulted draft picks into a starting position way before they are ready...the planets are aligned both in the state of the franchise and where cobb sits in his own career for him to be the man right now
When I say not suck I'm talking on terms of not being Tim Couch. He'll be one of those guys that throws for 18 TD sand 13 INTs, and leads the team to a 7-9 record. The only way it's any better then that is if Reid commits to the run.
shut the farg up
cobb could be tom brady. cobb could be bobby hoying. dont act like you know what hes going to be. youve seen him play 2.5 games. you are a not any kind of football expert and neither are any of us. he might be good, he might not. we dont know. we should try and figure it out. or we can go 10-6 and lose in the first round of the playoffs. your call.
I'd be happy just to see a qb who puts throws on the money were wr's can catch it in stride and get some yac. Haven't seen that for a while.
i keep forgetting im dealing with such keen qb scouts
what evidence is there to suggest kolb cant be great. and what evidence is there is suggest kolb cant be terrible.
we have no farging idea what kolb is going to be. so to illustrate that, you go to the comparable high (brady) or a comparable low (hoying). seems...simple...
Kolbs lack of arm strength alone will keep him from being Brady.
But yes, keep thinking he's a complete wild card. He's never gonna be better than average at best. And average at best at the QB position isn't going to win you a SB unless you have one of or both a good running game with a coach dedicated to it, and a ballin ass defense that scares the shtein out everyone. The Eagles have neither of those, and won't anytime soon.
lol lack of arm strength
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 12:42:15 AM
Kolbs lack of arm strength alone will keep him from being Brady.
this one single post wraps up munsons unbelievable lack of football knowledge....like if you were his worst enemy and you needed some ammunition to bury him he just laid it out on a silver platter.....where do you start?
the fact that he thinks bradys arm is strong
the fact that he thinks cobbs arm strength is the reason he wont be good
the fact that he thinks cobb IS brady except for the arm strength
the kid never stops
Kolb's biggest problem is the fact he holds onto the ball for farging ever. I dont think he has a weak arm.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2010, 01:01:15 AM
Kolb's biggest problem is the fact he holds onto the ball for farging ever. I dont think he has a weak arm.
isnt that one of your heros biggest problems?
and hs in his 100th year
cobb has played two games
No, McNabb's biggest problem is the fact that his accuracy isn't the greatest on the short/mid-range throws and is not ideal for a WCO.
His feet and escapability allow him to hold it longer than cement shoes Kolbsy
Brady can actually get some zip on the ball to squeeze it into a tight spot. He has the arm to get it into the spot he wants.
I have absolutely no confidence in Kolb's arm being able to do that. He looks like a soft pitch softball thrower out there.
Edit-bwahahahahah yeah I definitely said the only thing keeping Kolb from being Brady is his arm strength. RIF.
Anyway, make sure you're here when Kolb peaks at average and the team wastes two or three years of Jackson/Maclin/McCoy.
wow j youve watched 5 for a decade and havent seen his propensity for not making quick decisions...one of the reasons for his lack of accuracy is that he cant decide who to throw the ball to
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 01:05:06 AM
Brady can actually get some zip on the ball to squeeze it into a tight spot.
I have absolutely no confidence in Kolb's arm being able to do that. He looks like a soft pitch softball thrower out there.
Anyway, make sure you're here when Kolb peaks at average and the team wastes two or three years of Jackson/Maclin/McCoy.
cobbs arm is stronger than bradys thats a fact....but thanks for playing
oh and be proud for once again saying a unknown guy isnt going to be great....your POS level is uncalcuable
I don't think so...he knows where to go with it, but sometimes lacks the touch to put it there
Kolb has zero arm strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
:-D
look at that duck.
Now imagine it against coverages that aren't blown.
You crazy if you think Brady has an arm like that wet noodle.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2010, 01:10:56 AM
I don't think so...he knows where to go with it, but sometimes lacks the touch to put it there
he really doesnt...which is why he thrived with TO going down the field....he is pretty damn good putting air under the ball but if he has to read a defense and thread something then the punter better be gettin warmed up
phreak is living in 5 fantasy land. he can only relent on the accuracy thing. there is no hope with him.
as for kolb even if his arm strength isnt great, it still can improve. hes played 2 friggin games. evaluate him after 16 as a starter and then make an evaluation.
I really have no problem with them giving him a chance. But McNabb is the superior QB. I hope for Kolb's sake that Reid runs it more than 15 times a game because he'll get Kolb killed and the dude won't be able to prove anything laying on his back all year.
at some point your going to have to take pacifier out of donovans mouth and stop blaming andy for everything. yea, we get it. andy is fat and passes a lot. but the only thing 5 is superior at is losing in the nfc championship game, bitter jealousy, and embarrassing himself with pre-game dance routines.
I'm not blaming Reid for McNabb's failures. But I am saying that McNabb was good enough to go 10-6/11-5 in the pass happy offense throwing 45 times a game. There's no way a guy like Kolb and his lack of mobility survives that.
As GF pointed though Reid tends to change his game plan when McNabb isn't in the game, so hopefully he can do so when McNabb is gone. We saw what a balanced attack WITH McNabb did for them late last year. Then he went back to dropping him back 45 times and the result was utter failure two weeks in a row. What makes you think Kolb will do any better than McNabb in that type of offense? He's a little bit more accurate, but with no mobility and a noodle arm.
7-9 baby. Get excited!
lol
they beat 11 crappy teams last season. good mcnabb or bad mcnabb they werent good enough to do anything more than what they did. historically they never beat playoff/good teams and rarely win epic/big games. they have feasted on the washingtons and san franciscos of the world and gotten idiot fans like you to believe the solution is all in the matter of running the ball more.
new orleans doesnt run and they do just fine. sure drew brees is great, yes. but 5 isnt gonna get it done dropping back 20 or 45 times. how many farging times does he need to fail before you and your rapist uncle in the dusty dungeon basement figure it out.
lol McNabb did just fine when he was only asked to drop back 20-30 times a game. It makes a huge difference. And it will make an even bigger difference for a guy like Kolb.
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 01:12:35 AM
Kolb has zero arm strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
:-D
look at that duck.
Now imagine it against coverages that aren't blown.
You crazy if you think Brady has an arm like that wet noodle.
No way you can judge arm strength on that pass. It was thrown as hard as it had to be, and was a perfect pass by the way. It should have been because pimp was wide open.
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 01:12:35 AM
Kolb has zero arm strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
:-D
look at that duck.
Now imagine it against coverages that aren't blown.
You crazy if you think Brady has an arm like that wet noodle.
did you seriously just link a youtube video that shows a perfectly thrown ball, accuracy and pace as an example of Kolb's sucky arm?
wow, i never knew you could be this bad
look how much kolb sucks, here's a perfectly executed 71 yard touchdown
i think what munson was saying is he could have not only made that throw but he could have also caught his own pass because he's so goddamn fast.
Wow I don't normally jump on the Munson bashing bandwagon, but holy sthein dude! Are you retarded?
quit possibly the worst video to post to defend his argument
guys...here is a video to prove how unclutch Joe Montana was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/1Kj_GLEGgsk
montana's performance on that drive was almost as impressive as your ability to embed that video in a post.
Quote from: SunMo on March 20, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
guys...here is a video to prove how unclutch Joe Montana was.
look how weak those passes are
Look, I just have ZERO faith that Kolb will bring a Super Bowl here. To me, he's the equivalent of a Derek Anderson...or a Jon Kitna. That mediocre, might have some good games here and there, boring ass QB that won't ever get their team anywhere.
So you can twiddle his icehole with your tongue all you want, he gives the Eagles as much of a chance to win it all as McNabb does.
Which is none.
End of story.
How anyone can believe even for a second that McNabb is the answer (especially for a team with an offensive scheme where an extremely accurate quarterback is an absolute must) is beyond me.
He was great when his legs made up for his zesty throwing mechanics but that time is long since past, PG.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 20, 2010, 12:11:29 PM
Look, I just have ZERO faith that Kolb will bring a Super Bowl here. To me, he's the equivalent of a Derek Anderson...or a Jon Kitna. That mediocre, might have some good games here and there, boring ass QB that won't ever get their team anywhere.
So you can twiddle his icehole with your tongue all you want, he gives the Eagles as much of a chance to win it all as McNabb does.
Which is none.
End of story.
And you know this how? Dude has played 2 1/2 NFL games and looked fairly solid minus the second half against Baltimore. And that shouldn't even count he was put in a terrible position. I don't think anybody thinks he is the second coming of anything.
Like someone said earlier he could be Bobby Hoying, Tom Brady, or something in between. Fact of the matter is McNabb has had ample opportunities why not give Kolb a shot?
Quote from: Rome on March 20, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
How anyone can believe even for a second that McNabb is the answer (especially for a team with an offensive scheme where an extremely accurate quarterback is an absolute must) is beyond me.
He was great when his legs made up for his zesty throwing mechanics but that time is long since past, PG.
Did you even read my post? Can you show me the part where I said McNabb gives the Eagles a chance to win it all? :sly
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 20, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 20, 2010, 12:11:29 PM
Look, I just have ZERO faith that Kolb will bring a Super Bowl here. To me, he's the equivalent of a Derek Anderson...or a Jon Kitna. That mediocre, might have some good games here and there, boring ass QB that won't ever get their team anywhere.
So you can twiddle his icehole with your tongue all you want, he gives the Eagles as much of a chance to win it all as McNabb does.
Which is none.
End of story.
And you know this how? Dude has played 2 1/2 NFL games and looked fairly solid minus the second half against Baltimore. And that shouldn't even count he was put in a terrible position. I don't think anybody thinks he is the second coming of anything.
Like someone said earlier he could be Bobby Hoying, Tom Brady, or something in between. Fact of the matter is McNabb has had ample opportunities why not give Kolb a shot?
Well, if anyone is trying to force the "he could be Tom Brady" point, I'll say that every time.
And again, where did I say McNabb gives the Eagles a chance to win again?
Reading comprehension, folks.
you didn't say that about mcnabb, but i don't understand why you feel the need to insist that Kolb is horrible, you have no idea just like any of us. i know after a few preseason games you came to that conclusion, and i guess you feel the need to stick to it. but i see potential for a player and will have no idea how it will turn out until he plays a full season.
^ This
I didn't say you said that about McNabb, my (our) point is we know McNabb won't win so why not give the other guy a shot. He certainly could crash and burn, the chances of that are much higher than him being an All-Pro. I think most of us are just sick of getting close each year and then having our hearts broke.
ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 20, 2010, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 20, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
How anyone can believe even for a second that McNabb is the answer (especially for a team with an offensive scheme where an extremely accurate quarterback is an absolute must) is beyond me.
He was great when his legs made up for his zesty throwing mechanics but that time is long since past, PG.
Did you even read my post? Can you show me the part where I said McNabb gives the Eagles a chance to win it all? :sly
I read it. I guess I just misinterpreted what you were saying. You're suggesting that Kolb isn't the answer in your eyes so why bother giving him a shot at all, yes? OK, fair enough. The thing is, though, we ALL know McNabb isn't the answer, so why NOT give Kolb a shot just for shteins and giggles? I'd rather see the young players (Pimp, Mack & Shady) begin the process of weening themselves away from McNabb's manboob and since there's no one else there, might as well see what, if anything, Kolb has.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2010, 05:12:03 PM
ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it
its one thing for someone like munson not to pick up on logic, but phreak....come on son
It's just that I believe that McNabb is a championship caliber QB. If he's given the appropriate supporting cast, he can win a Super Bowl.
Yes he did have that in 2004 and his performance in the SB was not good. But that was his only shot. Is it his fault they did not build on that momentum of 2004? No.
This FO and coaching staff are more to blame.
And IF Kolb is a stud, or even an adequate QB, is it really going to matter when we have a FO who doesn't value certain positions? Is it really going to matter when the coaching staff wants to throw it 52 times a week?
Quote from: KDS on March 20, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 20, 2010, 05:12:03 PM
ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it
its one thing for someone like munson not to pick up on logic, but phreak....come on son
i still cant believe munson was touting tom bradys arm strength...which is below average and of all his attributes is easily his weakest
i mean i can see getting alex smiths arm strength wrong but tom farging brady....you have to come to the conclusion that kid simply doesnt watch the sport
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 20, 2010, 05:27:05 PM
It's just that I believe that McNabb is a championship caliber QB. If he's given the appropriate supporting cast, he can win a Super Bowl.
The supporting cast isn't going to get a lot better than what he had to work with last year. The line could certainly be better, but the skill players are the best bunch he's ever had. Every now and then he's going to have awful games no matter what players are around him, and Reid will continue to let him try to throw his way out of a bad game, which has never happened. So now we point out again that Reid doesn't do this to his other quarterbacks.
Exactly right.
And when the OL was its strongest, the skill position players were bad or not used properly (RBs).
The problem here is Reid and the FO.
I sure hope they get some attitude on that defense.
they had a shot early on before mcnabb became the albatross of negativity he is today. 00, 01, 02 teams had great defense and a the best OL mcnabb has had.
but HE couldnt get past kerry collins. then HE couldnt lead the eagles on a gw drive against the rams. then HE lost inthe nfccg to brad johnson and jake delhomme. then HE lost the super bowl.
it always came back to mcnabb, even when the eagles had the squad to get it done.
now not only do they not now, but mcnabb mentally is as finished as finished could be here. he hates the fans, resents kolb and the skill players, is aching to go lindros-clarke on the organization....its over for him in philly. please accept this. thats step one.
@ igy what else can you say about munson that hasnt been said already. im not even sure its funny anymore.
Quote from: SunMo on March 20, 2010, 09:06:55 AM
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 01:12:35 AM
Kolb has zero arm strength.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8
:-D
look at that duck.
Now imagine it against coverages that aren't blown.
You crazy if you think Brady has an arm like that wet noodle.
did you seriously just link a youtube video that shows a perfectly thrown ball, accuracy and pace as an example of Kolb's sucky arm?
wow, i never knew you could be this bad
lol at "perfectly thrown ball"
It was accurate, but it was a duck. The only reason why that's not an INT is because it was broken coverage. Any athlete anywhere close to Jackson is going to have time to recover and make a play on that ball.
Watch some more of this throws, especially on out patterns. He has no zip on the ball whatsoever. In an offense that loves to run comeback routes, he's going to get under cut and pick 6'd more times then anyone here will like.
im done. i cant...i just cant.
And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.
Christ. This isn't worth it, but here goes: Kolb threw that pass that way because it WAS a farging broken coverage you clown. If he sucked as much as you profess, he would have under-thrown it, or muscled it and sailed it one way or the other out of DJax reach. The best QBs in the history of the game have taken what they are given. That's what Kolb did. Why would he rifle it in when 10 was running around by himself. Pitch and catch, you tool.
Anyway. I am in the camp that it's time to go with Kolb. It's obvious McNabb is not going to get you a Lombardi, so start the process of find the guy who will, like almost every other team in the league. If that's Kolb - great, if not, let's find that out while McNabb has some value.
i just watched the video munson posted even tho i knew what it was and you literally cant throw a ball better than cobb did there...so by munsons qb theory i suppose i can use that single highlite to say that cobb is going to be the best qb of all time?
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.
who compared their arms?...that would be no one...in fact why are you comapring cobb to brady at all...what got pointed out is that you ied to make an example of cobbs arm strength by using a guy whose only negative in his entire game is arm strength...there are probably ten things you could have named about tom brady that seperate him from cobb...arm strength is not one of them...hell im not even saying cobb has a strong arm because he doesnt..im just amazed that you didnt know that brady doesnt either
Quote from: KDS on March 20, 2010, 08:41:42 PM
im done. i cant...i just cant.
the whole world is wrong and hes right
i don't care if kolb has the arm strength to break a virgin's hymen. if he's accurate on short and intermediate throws then he's golden, especially in the offense that reid employs.
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2010, 10:32:37 AM
i don't care if kolb has the arm strength to break a virgin's hymen. if he's accurate on short and intermediate throws then he's golden, especially in the offense that reid employs.
thats what made the throw to pimp so good...perfectly in stride...something mcnabb often has trouble doing even on his best days
garcia is a perfect example of a horrible arm but was able to run the offense very efficiently because of accuracy
put it this way theres been tons of successful quarterbacks in this league with subpar arms...has there ever been a great qb with bad accuracy?
elway had a cannon but was usually a sub-60% completion guy. i think he ended up around 57% for his career.
yeah hes probably the only one....but he arguably had the strongest arm ever of any good qb which made of for his accuracy issues...
you also have to factor in that he largely played in a era that didnt completely turn the rulebook over to the offense
drew brees is not doing what he does now if he plays in the 80's/90's
and because of that is why it doesnt matter if cobb doesnt have the strongest arm because having a cannon in todays league isnt the advantage it was 25 years ago
Quote from: Rome on March 21, 2010, 10:32:37 AM
i don't care if kolb has the arm strength to break a virgin's hymen. if he's accurate on short and intermediate throws then he's golden, especially in the offense that reid employs.
The problem is he gets nothing behind his throws on out routes and comebacks. He can be as accurate as he wants, the minute he gives an athlete a chance to make a play on the ball, it'll be going the other way. Which wouldn't be too big of a deal except a very healthy chunk (most) of the short/intermediate routes this offense runs are hooks and out routes.
Anyone who goes back and watches him throw out patterns (in the Saints game especially) will see that. Any team with an Asante type player at CB will eat Kolb up on those routes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2010, 08:32:31 AM
i just watched the video munson posted even tho i knew what it was and you literally cant throw a ball better than cobb did there...so by munsons qb theory i suppose i can use that single highlite to say that cobb is going to be the best qb of all time?
Quote from: Munson on March 20, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.
who compared their arms?...that would be no one...in fact why are you comapring cobb to brady at all...what got pointed out is that you ied to make an example of cobbs arm strength by using a guy whose only negative in his entire game is arm strength...there are probably ten things you could have named about tom brady that seperate him from cobb...arm strength is not one of them...hell im not even saying cobb has a strong arm because he doesnt..im just amazed that you didnt know that brady doesnt either
Quote from: KDS on March 20, 2010, 08:41:42 PM
im done. i cant...i just cant.
the whole world is wrong and hes right
IGY, you are an idiot. By saying Kolbs arm is weaker than Bradys, which it is, doesn't mean I'm saying Brady has a strong arm, or is known for having a strong arm. Brady can drop bombs all over the field, Kolb's arm is a wet noddle. Of course there are a million other things that will separate them when Kolb flames out in 3 years. No one's saying other wise.
Michael Vick is not as accurate as Donovan McNabb. Let's see you take that and run with it.
im not discussing sports with you...i can only try and teach
youre a complete dope who has no idea what hes talking about...if you arent going to listen to me...listen to the rest of the world...theres a very good reason youre considered a complete douchebag by everyone thats ever come across you
lol and now when you have no way or evidence of whatever point you're trying to make, you revert to half assed insults. The usual IGY.
because you dont listen to anyone and you clearly dont watch sports so why try and feed you knowledge...all there is left to do is insult...which is why you get them from every direction
lol you're an idiot.
this isnt funny times, idiot. this is your reeces' gay son.
Quote from: KDS on March 21, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
this isnt funny times, idiot. this is your reeces' gay son.
You butcher the English language worse than your people butchered Jesus.
write more fake articles ew
jesus farging christ, do people need to be put on timeout ?
Jordan signed his 1-yr RFA tender. I know everyone was worried about this Pro Bowl talent getting away....
Nick Cole signed as well
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/DeSean_unlikely_to_get_extension.html
They're afraid he's going to turn into another T.O. which is entirely possible. I'd still do it, though, because I'm stupid and desperate for them to win a Super Bowl.
Quote from: Rome on March 22, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
They're afraid he's going to turn into another T.O. which is entirely possible.
why is that entirely possible
because they're both black
wait, djack is black ? :o
aint no white pimps dawg
Two seventh round compensatory picks awarded to the Eagles. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/88891047.html) And some other mildly uninteresting information.[/ed]
oh man, howie is going to turn those into gold !
Quote from: smeags on March 23, 2010, 10:50:12 AM
oh man, howie is going to turn those into a 2011 6th rounder!
holy farg, Platinum !!
So, Ive been out of the loop for a week or so...Bell was only signed to a 1 year offer? Those farging deals drive me mad.
i believe the saints still have until midnight tonight to match.
btw before he sees the easy bat signal and swoops in here...yes i know compensatory picks cannot be traded
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 23, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
So, Ive been out of the loop for a week or so...Bell was only signed to a 1 year offer? Those farging deals drive me mad.
He is a RFA.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 23, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 23, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
So, Ive been out of the loop for a week or so...Bell was only signed to a 1 year offer? Those farging deals drive me mad.
He is a RFA.
what does that have to do with a one year contract
Right, which I thought meant he could sign a multi-year deal anywhere else but his original team. I guess I'm wrong though.
Still, I hate 1 year deals.
A 1-year deal for Mike Bell gets the world's biggest yawn for many many reasons.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2010, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 23, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 23, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
So, Ive been out of the loop for a week or so...Bell was only signed to a 1 year offer? Those farging deals drive me mad.
He is a RFA.
what does that have to do with a one year contract
I thought he was bitching that he wasn't signed yet. Sorry
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2010, 11:35:31 AM
btw before he sees the easy bat signal and swoops in here...yes i know compensatory picks cannot be traded
ha. damn, now I can't respond with a mildly uninteresting paragraph
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Roseman_Eagles_not_done_.html
QuoteDuring the off-season, every day I think something’s going to happen. I go into the office every day thinking that. But the process just isn’t that quick on anything. I think that at some point here in the next couple of weeks we’ll have some things going on.”
no shtein. it's called the draft.
next
QuoteGetting Stew [Bradley] back is like getting another draft pick. Obviously we rely on Stew a lot as our middle linebacker. Akeem [Jordan] was banged up towards the end of the year, but at the beginning part of the year I think a lot of people were talking about how well Akeem was playing. Getting both those guys back healthy, ready to go next year – that’s really exciting for us.
um, no it's not like getting another draft pick. getting "stew" back is like getting an above average player coming off a major knee injury.
QuoteDeSean is a player that weÂ’re all excited to have. We have a great relationship with DeSean and obviously thereÂ’s not a lot of value in talking about contracts publicly through the media.
yeah, because making a public comment like "we'd love for desean to be an eagle for the next 10 years" would be completely disruptive to any contract negotiations.
it should be noted that immediately following this comment, joe banner was seen removing his hand from howie's ass.
i didnt think it would ever be humanly possible to get more infuriated by someone simply opening their mouth then when banner does it but roseman has done it in record time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2010, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: Rome on March 22, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
They're afraid he's going to turn into another T.O. which is entirely possible.
why is that entirely possible
both are flamboyant showboats.
both play wide receiver.
both have drew rosenhaus as an agent.
both are/were severely underpaid and are/were looking to get massive contract upgrades, hence firing their previous agents and hiring rosenhaus.
most importantly, both play for a team that has a nasty reputation around the league for being cheap ass fargs and turning any perceived lack of loyalty from their players into even nastier public relations wars against the players.
if youre saying that pimp will hold out at some point in his career i could maybe agree...even tho i dont
but no client in league history ever did what TO did...it probably will never happen again anywhere but it certainly isnt happening with pimp rosenpenis and the eagles...to even think it would is to be delusional and beyond pessimistic
you asked me why it was entirely possible and i gave you 1/2 dozen reasons.
i love jackson same as you but a lot of farged up shtein happens with this team. it's not even remotely a stretch to think it could happen with a rare talent like him.
As expected, the Saints didn't match the Bell offer. Howie partied....
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Bell_Might_Not_Toll_Tonight_After_All.html
LOL at the picture.
if i wasnt already defeated with this team that roseman interview would probably destroy me.
previously we thought there could be nothing worse than joseph joe banner, but we have found it. howie is instant cancer to the mind. when i think of him, i think of this
(http://nightauditor.org/images/accountant.jpg)
except shorter and more jewey.
kill me. i hate this team. i hate banner. i hate roseman. i hate mcnabb. i hate reid. i hate lurie. i had his stupid wife. i know he has nothing to do with this but i hate ed snider.
Quote from: Rome on March 23, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
you asked me why it was entirely possible and i gave you 1/2 dozen reasons.
i love jackson same as you but a lot of farged up shtein happens with this team. it's not even remotely a stretch to think it could happen with a rare talent like him.
none of those reasons are valid
theres been thousands of "flamboyant showboats" in the nfl...none ever purposely created chaos on a team and got permanently suspended and sued by the team
theres been thousands of wide receivers in the nfl...none ever purposely created chaos on a team and got permanently suspended and sued by the team
theres been hundreds of drew rosenpenis clients in the nfl...none ever purposely created chaos on a team and got permanently suspended and sued by the team
theres been thousands of underpaid players in the nfl...none ever purposely created chaos on a team and got permanently suspended and sued by the team
theres been dozens of players treated zesty by the eagles...none ever purposely created chaos on a team and got permanently suspended and sued by the team
trust me there will never be another TO in the league again...well maybe not never but not now and not in this situation...youre worrying about absolutely nothing...worry about a hold out if anything but even that isnt a great concern...the eagles have ridiculous money and once the CBA works itself out (and maybe before) pimp is getting caked
why does it have to be limited to this upcoming season ? i'd see the chance of it happening being a few years from now if djack keeps playing at a high level and out performing his contract.
you can no more say it's impossible then rome can say it is. neither of you have a crystal ball.
Quote from: KDS on March 23, 2010, 11:58:39 PM
if i wasnt already defeated with this team that roseman interview would probably destroy me.
previously we thought there could be nothing worse than joseph joe banner, but we have found it. howie is instant cancer to the mind. when i think of him, i think of this
well once again according to banner and and now roseman via a season ticket holder survey the
vocal minority are the
only fans that are not happy with this offseason and the organization as a whole.
Quote from: smeags on March 24, 2010, 08:09:43 AM
why does it have to be limited to this upcoming season ? i'd see the chance of it happening being a few years from now if djack keeps playing at a high level and out performing his contract.
you can no more say it's impossible then rome can say it is. neither of you have a crystal ball.
are you talking about a holdout?....cause that happens all the time
or are you talking about pimp being another TO
TO happened once ever for a reason...because hes a god damn lunatic
im confident that will never again happen in the league in our lifetimes...much less on the eagles in the next couple years
you can be confident but you can't say never. other organizations have shipped divas off the team for actions not so far off of owens'. the eagles took it to another level and were not without blame in that fiasco. they knew the lunatic player they brought in and they could've handled it differently but choose the typical grand arrogance path that is this front office but make no mistake owens was the biggest problem with that deal.
do i think it will happen with djack ? no but i can't say it will never like you did because we're talking about this front office.
settle down chicken little...everything gonna be alright
yeah, like that response even came close to making sense. swing and a miss.
Aside from letting go of Spoon, I think the offseason has been a good one. Got rid of a lot of dead weight. Any chance Lito might come back?
its hard to know when people are trying to make sense or be funny, especially when they dont post as much, because that last sentence made me angry if you are dead serious
I've said this once before but I'd be 100% for Lito coming back...but only because I farging love singing the Lido Shuffle after a pick.
good times
If McNabb and Vick get traded and the Eagles draft a white kid does that make them racist or awesome or both?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 24, 2010, 11:50:33 AM
If McNabb and Vick get traded and the Eagles draft a white kid does that make them racist or awesome or both?
depends what position
Well I meant QB, obviously.
If they can somehow get rid of both of them it would be awesome. I don't care if McNabb and Vick are purple...neither can run the offense Andy wants to run.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on March 24, 2010, 12:14:55 PM
If they can somehow get rid of both of them it would be awesome. I don't care if McNabb and Vick are purple...neither can run the offense Andy wants to run.
Exactly. farg them both. If they can get draft picks out of those two clowns they had better jump at the chance.
vick is not even part of the equation...under no scenario is he ever going into a season as the starter of this team
i wouldnt mind seeing him go either but people spend way to much time on him...he deserves no thought whatsoever
You're probably right, but if it's either carry him on the roster as dead weight or trade him for draft picks I'll choose the latter.
grapevine says there is absolutely no market for him...cobb and mcnabb are/were overpriced but apparently nobody wants vick for anything
Vicks draft pick the eagles may pick up (definitely not picks) would be a 6th or 7th rd'er at best
i don't even see that.
well I say that because hes a quarterback (I think), and the position is a little more depended on where he would be worth that
Who cares? A 6th rounder would be better than those godawful wildcat plays we had to endure last year.
You kidding me....Reid just got his chubby bunions wet last year with the wildcat. Its full throttle this year....and I hope he uses the powerful Desean Jackson to run the majority of them
Pedal to the metal?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 24, 2010, 01:04:48 PM
Pedal to the metal?
breaker 1-9, we got ourselves a convoy.
Quote from: reese125 on March 24, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
You kidding me....Reid just got his chubby bunions wet last year with the wildcat. Its full throttle this year....and I hope he uses the powerful Desean Jackson to run the majority of them
Ehhh, I dont want him throwing the ball at all. Remember the Cleveland MNF game?
According to PE.com: "Reid said that there have been offers for Sheldon Brown. The disgruntled cornerback said last April that he wanted a new contract. Brown went on to have one of his better seasons and eventually reached the Pro Bowl."
Quote
Eagles DB Macho Harris led the Eagles in performance based pay, earning $314,565 for his efforts as an eight-game starter.
Que???
farg you Reid. Just pay the guy. WTF?
What are they planning on putting back there in the secondary this year? :boom
I knew that would piss you off. To me that is just another sign that this team is quietly in rebuilding mode and McNabb will be gone. Brown obviously had a great year, but how much does he really have left?
Sheldon Brown isn't that great. It's the system. Nothing to see here.
Why wouldn't he have enough in the tank?
And if you're hanging your hopes on Mr busted ACLS and Asante Samuel, we're farged.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 24, 2010, 02:31:28 PM
Sheldon Brown isn't that great. It's the system. Nothing to see here.
you can stop there.
Ship him for the hell of it. Horde draft picks. Get some new blood in here. They aren't winning a SB this year, or hell, the next, so get it while you can.
It's like my Madden franchise is coming to life. First thing I did was dump everyone over 30.
were all the veterans pissed at you or did you sense a grudge?
While Sheldon may not be a stud, you can make a serious case that he is still the teams best cover corner. Im getting pretty sick of 22 and his coverage/tackling skills.
I traded them all to the Lions and Oakland, so no, they weren't pissed.
yeah but banner said #22 was the best corner in the league.
they arent gonna win with either qb right away but if the kid takes over i wouldnt clean house any further...i want a semblance of a team when the job is his...i dont want cobb going 3-13 getting blown out and teed off on every game..and they have more than sufficiently purged this offseason to the point that they will be a big player if they choose when the lockout is over
if mcnabb is back press the red button and end it
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 24, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
While Sheldon may not be a stud, you can make a serious case that he is still the teams best cover corner. Im getting pretty sick of 22 and his coverage/tackling skills.
Ill take asante and his 9 int's every day all day as a cb in this league. whether you hate his look, his sometimes missed tackles or blown coverage like any other cb in this league not named Revis, opposing qb's are still weary of throwing his way. hes a great threat to have and you need that on that side of the ball
Trading Sheldon and McNabb....lol, hello 4-12.
Better hope the Rams or Bills or whoever antes up a #1 for McNabb because they;re going to need it.
Schein on Sirius has been pushing a #33 overall and OJ Atogwe deal for McNabb. If that deal was offered, I would take that. Not that I want them to deal 5, but that would be about the best they could do unless someone gives up next years #1.
Take a look at his 9 picks and you'll see a lot of those were the result of bad throws from the opposing QB. A good example was the Giants playoff game last year. Eli dropped back, thought he had a WR and Sante was there to snag it.
I hear what you're saying though..I love the big-play ability, but it scares me that at any time he can jump a route and get burned for a long TD. If he didnt time his jump as well as he did in last years playoff game vs. Minne, that game could very well have had a different result.
Oh, and he can't tackle for shtein.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 24, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
Why wouldn't he have enough in the tank?
And if you're hanging your hopes on Mr busted ACLS and Asante Samuel, we're farged.
I am talking in terms of giving him an extension, he probably has 2 more years at a high level. As far as being farged they already are, they have holes on both sides of the ball that aren't going to be fixed in one offseason.
Quote from: reese125 on March 24, 2010, 03:15:40 PM
his sometimes missed tackles or blown coverage like any other cb in this league
this just isnt true....he led the league in missed tackles...not that you need that stat to know how awful he is tackling...he doesnt really blow coverages but he gets burnt a good deal because he doesnt follow coverages...hes his own defensive coordinator
anyway you cant say hes in a league of his own when it comes to making plays and big up his int's....and then say hes just like every other corner in the league when it comes to missed tsckles and coverages...it goes both ways
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 24, 2010, 03:18:42 PM
Trading Sheldon and McNabb....lol, hello 4-12.
Assuming Sheldon doesn't get replaced in the draft, maybe. The offense has enough weapons now that it could be successful enough with any mediocre QB, if the offensive line lets them stay upright.
Pretty big "if."
They could be 4-12 with them if they don't fix their oline, dline, and Lbs.
Which might be easier if they trade one of those players. Just sayin'.
Any news on Mike McGlynn as the possible center? Came out of Pitt and has pretty big size at 6'4" and 315lbs and has three years under his belt. Maybe just wait for training camp and see how he does.
And the no-shows to the beginning of the offseason conditioning program are....
McNabb
Sheldon
Rocca
Gocong
Samuel
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 29, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
And the no-shows to the beginning of the offseason conditioning program are....
McNabb--obviously
Sheldon--too old to care and/or expected to kiss andys ring
Rocca---probably cause hes halfway across the country but in other news why is still in the nfl? he sucks
Gocong---lol
Samuel---same deal as sheldon
McNabb & Sheldon are obvious
Gocong and Rocca (across the world, MDS) haven't signed tenders
Asante marches to the beat of his own drummer
id just wish i was in philly so i could meet up with PIMP in ac and we could become best friends
...and because it's not Brownsville.
QuoteAsante Samuel, Sheldon Brown don't show for Eagles workouts
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 7:15 AM ET
Lost in the ongoing furor regarding the status of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is the fact that, as reported Monday night by ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, cornerbacks Asante Samuel and Sheldon Brown did not show up for offseason workouts on Monday.
Other no-shows were McNabb and punter Sav Rocca.
We've heard Samuel's name as a potential addition to the McNabb trade, and we're now hearing that Samuel and Brown quietly are available to any interested suitors, as part of a McNabb trade or separately.
Samuel was a Day One free-agency signing in early 2008, only weeks after New England's perfect season squirted through his fingers.
lol...they're blowing it up. full on rebuild.
Hello 1999!
well now.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 10, 2010, 12:28:19 AM
I was wrong.
Blow them all up. Burn them all.
Even Sheldon. Especially him.
Trading both starting cornerbacks doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies but I do wonder what they could get in return and what the hell their draft board must look like if they're willing to dump players from a position that they value so highly.
man, there are a lot of major decisions going on while banner and reid are on vacations. hope they're ok with all of this.
I can't imagine that anyone would want Samuel with his current contract. I am sure there would be a market for Brown.
His contract isn't that unbearable.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 10:47:36 AM
His contract isn't that unbearable.
Yeah but include his contract with his bad attitude and it is.
he makes deion sanders look like ronnie lott.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 08:45:19 AM
QuoteAsante Samuel, Sheldon Brown don't show for Eagles workouts
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2010 7:15 AM ET
Lost in the ongoing furor regarding the status of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is the fact that, as reported Monday night by ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, cornerbacks Asante Samuel and Sheldon Brown did not show up for offseason workouts on Monday.
Other no-shows were McNabb and punter Sav Rocca.
We've heard Samuel's name as a potential addition to the McNabb trade, and we're now hearing that Samuel and Brown quietly are available to any interested suitors, as part of a McNabb trade or separately.
Samuel was a Day One free-agency signing in early 2008, only weeks after New England's perfect season squirted through his fingers.
lol...they're blowing it up. full on rebuild.
<Heston>
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
</Heston>
At least we might get a good draft position in 2011...sigh.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on March 30, 2010, 12:40:21 PM
At least we might get a good draft position in 2011...sigh.
just in time for the lockout.
ellis hobbs and gocong signed to one year deals
Please farging stay healthy, Hobbs.
Horray for Hobbs. farg for Cocong.
man, remember the front office PR on gocong not so long ago ? :-\
How about putting the guy at DE as a nickel rusher like he should be used?
Or trade his ass to a 3-4 team.
didn't he actually play a couple downs at end ?
yep, and got a sack I think.
i remember gocong had a pretty decent game against the pats a few years ago.....the one that aj feeley started i believe. jj was throwing a lot of 3-3-5 out there for that game and gocong seemed to peform well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 08:43:10 PM
How about putting the guy at DE as a nickel rusher like he should be used?
werent happy how opposing te's were defensed last year?
Nothing really made me happy about that defense.
Killa and the DTs...that's about it.
Trot coming back too.
Other than that...I've got nothin'.
They need badass attitudes on that side of the ball. Weatherspoon is a good start.
tackles are slighty above average at best...their lack of penetration and playmaking ability is pretty bad...which is surprising because i thought bunk would be a stud...and if he wasnt i thought hed be out of the league by now...hes exactly the one thing i never imagined...nondescript
I thought he'd be a stud or washout too. Him and Patterson are guys who take up blockers. That's fine.
But only if you have LBs to take advantage of it.
The Eagles don't.
yeah, i think bunk and patterson do a pretty nice job clogging up the middle and getting some occasional pressure on the qb. and as phreak said, if the eagles had some play makers at lb, then the dt's would get a little more recognition.
they might not be studs, but they are far from being a liability on defense.
The addition of a 3rd guy who isn't completely pathetic to rotate in with them and give them a break every once in a while might be nice to have too.
Cornelius Ingram update on CSN right now.
I completely forgot about him.
he's been busy prepping for the hof.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 09:07:47 PM
Trot coming back too.
They need badass attitudes on that side of the ball. Weatherspoon is a good start.
:-D about Trot, i know you are a huge fan but...
As far as needing attitude that is something they are in desperate need of. They really need a guy in the front seven that just kills mofos.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 30, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
he's been busy prepping for the hof.
IF he's healthy, he could be a nice addition.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Herremans_hangs_with_Playmates_in_LA_Kendra_teaches_stripping_in_Vegas.html
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2010, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 30, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
he's been busy prepping for the hof.
IF he's healthy, he could be a nice addition.
Same. He and HoF Celek could be nice in two TE sets if his knees hold up.
Celek's blocking definitely improved as the year went on too. Just don't expect him to go one on one with Ware.
RE: the DTs. I read a few places that the Eagles don't want them up the field, its part of the scheme to stay on the line and try and clog things up. Of course that scheme makes perfect sense with undersized tackles known for getting pressure in the backfield.
RE: Gocong, trade him with Mcnabb to the Raiders, Al needs more asians
oh how i love thee
(http://www.gatorcountry.com/images/uploads/football/IngramCornelius_090318_5066.jpg)
The Gocong-to-Cleveland rumors are starting up again...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 31, 2010, 10:37:58 AM
The Gocong-to-Cleveland rumors are starting up again...
Good riddance
What in the hell would Cleveland give up for Chris farging Gocong?
Get excited y'all (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100331_Eagles_guard_Stacy_Andrews_says_he_will_be_ready.html)
^-^
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 30, 2010, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 30, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
he's been busy prepping for the hof.
IF he's healthy, he could be a nice addition.
hard to say now, he's coming off i believe his 2nd major knee injury and he's basically a year behind. but who knows.....maybe he spent the last year learning the playbook and watching a lot of film on the offense to get a grip for how things are done. i was bummed when he blew out his knee last year before getting a chance to see him on the field. i hope he's able to be productive and i'm rooting for him. but my expectation level isn't very high.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 31, 2010, 10:40:57 AM
Get excited y'all (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100331_Eagles_guard_Stacy_Andrews_says_he_will_be_ready.html)
^-^
I'll give him this at least it's a professionally written article and not a bunch of twitter mumbling and crazed youtube videos.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
What in the hell would Cleveland give up for Chris farging Gocong?
Rumors are it's a 4th, which I think would be highway robbery
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
What in the hell would Cleveland give up for Chris farging Gocong?
They have 12 picks, including four in the 5th round. Worst case scenario, we get Carolina's 6th...
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 31, 2010, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
What in the hell would Cleveland give up for Chris farging Gocong?
They have 12 picks, including four in the 5th round. Worst case scenario, we get Carolina's 6th...
A 5th would be great considering their luck in that round
Quote from: Dalton on March 31, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
What in the hell would Cleveland give up for Chris farging Gocong?
Rumors are it's a 4th, which I think would be highway robbery
Highway robbery doesn't begin to do justice to that scenario. That would be a ridiculous no-brainer.
does cleveland run a 3-4 ?
I think so. Also, I guess this means Gocong was a Heckert guy.
a Temple instructor (swami from EMB) wrote a book about his dad and growing up watching the Eagles (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0345516516/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books)
Eagles Re-Sign LB Omar Gaither To A One-Year, $1.176M Deal
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 31, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
a Temple instructor (swami from EMB) wrote a book about his dad and growing up watching the Eagles (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0345516516/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books)
if the entire book reads anything like the excerpts, no thank you.
QuoteI've been known to occasionally stalk pro athletes. When driving on the Schuylkill Expressway last summer, I saw Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown cruising just ahead of me in his Escalade. I gassed my little Honda Civic and pushed as hard as I could to catch up with him. I didn't really have a plan from there, but I knew I wanted to watch him as he drove, to see where he positioned his hands on the wheel, to see if he sang along to the radio, if he talked on his cell phone, if anyone was with him. I caught up to him about two miles from the exit for Packer Avenue, the last exit before you cross the Walt Whitman Bridge into New Jersey, and also the exit that leads to the NovaCare Complex, where the Eagles practice. In two miles, he would be gone and I would probably never see him again, at least not in real, everyday life.
I stayed even with him and was glad to note that he was a careful driver-focused on the road, moderate speeds, no distractions. I was not careful, leering through my passenger window at my favorite football player, my car drifting off course like a shopping cart with a broken wheel.
I hoped he would look at me, but then I didn't know what I would do if we made eye contact. Would I wave dumbly? Would I ask him to pull over so I could explain that he's my favorite player, and I wear his jersey every Sunday? Should I call him Sheldon or Mr. Brown? And how would he react to all of this? Surely, he'd be as frightened as he was flattered.
I turned the radio down and opened the window to hear the music he was playing, but all I heard was the faint bass line of a rap song. There weren't many other cars on the road, and it felt like Sheldon and I had the stretch of highway to ourselves.
Two miles passed quickly. I fumbled with my cell phone to try to snap a picture of him, but soon we were at Packer Avenue. I veered across two lanes to follow him all the way to the NovaCare Complex. If he knew I was following him, he didn't show it. As we sat at a red light, I lightly tapped my horn, hoping he would look over, and I could point to the Eagles jersey I was wearing. But he looked straight ahead, leaning on his left hand and looking cooler than I've ever looked. At the next light, he was gone
I stopped reading after the first sentence.
bury the EMB please
preseason schedule out
sort of
No Steelers or Ravens huh
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 31, 2010, 03:23:04 PM
No Steelers or Ravens huh
QuotePhiladelphia
at NY Jets (ESPN)
Pittsburgh
at Baltimore
New England
vs Jacksonville
at Cincinnati
at Kansas City (first time since the 70s)
vs NY Jets
i love how they dont know the exact dates of the games but they know one is on espn
i love how it's noteworthy that the eagles haven't played a preseason game in kc since the 70's. why the farg are they travelling that far for a preseason game anyway? and why are they playing jax in the preseason and again in the reg season?
The Bengals one is a Friday FOX national game
If they get any pick for Gocong it is highway robbery. Yay! Wasted 3rd rounders. If it wasn't for them drafting guys like Pimp and Shady, picks like Gocong, Matt McCoy, and Bryan Smith would make me want to kill myself.
pimp is on WIP right now
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 31, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
If they get any pick for Gocong it is highway robbery. Yay! Wasted 3rd rounders. If it wasn't for them drafting guys like Pimp and Shady, picks like Gocong, Matt McCoy, and Bryan Smith would make me want to kill myself.
it makes me more mad because they
did hit on those picks...lately they have been leaning a little more towards talent rather than mormonism and hopefully they have learned their lesson and stay away from the laws - considines - reggie browns - abiamiris even a simenou you can throw in there tho he wasnt a draft pick...and instead go for the westbrooks - pimps - shadys - HOF ingrams ect...ill even take a demps macho or cj gaddis because they at least give you hope
if they would just go for the most talented player this crap wouldnt happen half the time...you didnt even have to see gocong play to know he was going to be a disaster...and you didnt need to see more than one series of mccoy to know he was a dud...when you pick guys like that you immediately put yourself behind the eight ball because from the start they dont have the skill set therefore their ceiling is low and their propensity for floppiness great
Quote from: smeags on March 31, 2010, 03:03:44 PM
Eagles Re-Sign LB Omar Gaither To A One-Year, $1.176M Deal
I guess the Eagles think they are set at LB again this year. Gaither, Gocong, Bradley, Mays, Jordan, Fokou, Mays.
Is there a worse group of LBs in the league? I think not.
I agree, every time they pick one of those guys I initially get extremely pissed and then I try to justify it in my head thinking maybe they will get a steal. I can't think of one time that has actually happened.
Jeremy Bloom was pretty good at football.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 04:53:55 PM
Jeremy Bloom was pretty good at under armor commericials.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 31, 2010, 04:53:55 PM
Jeremy Bloom was pretty good at football.
That pick didn't bother me, he actually had some potential he just had too long a lay off from football.
CLICK CLACK!
yeah i had absolutely no problem with the bloom pick...in fact i quite liked it
Quote from: phillycrew on March 31, 2010, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 31, 2010, 03:03:44 PM
Eagles Re-Sign LB Omar Gaither To A One-Year, $1.176M Deal
I guess the Eagles think they are set at LB again this year. Gaither, Gocong, Bradley, Mays, Jordan, Fokou, Mays.
Is there a worse group of LBs in the league? I think not.
Maybe the Giants...for now. Pretty sure Gocong is gone by the time the draft rolls around. It goes against their draft philosophy but I'd love to see them take OLB Sean Weatherspoon from Missouri at 24. There was a rumor a while back they were interested in Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson, I'd be thrilled with that move. This is shaping up like when they released Small and Johnson and went with Thrash and Pinkston.
even with their low pick there are so many great possibilities for the eagles in this draft it would be very difficult for them to farg up
lol
im just saying when they pick there will be up to like 7 really good players around...usually even with a higher pick there arent that many...thats how good this draft is...
and probably like two guys they could realistically pick where youd say they farged up plus a dumb trade
the bloom pick might have been the best pick of reid's tenure. why? stay with me.
if reid doesn't pick bloom, and bloom doesn't implode, the eagles don't start the 2006 season without a true punt returner. not having a true punt returner in 2007 caused them to lose the first two games of that season. as stubborn as reid is, it took that succession of clusterfargs to impress upon him the importance of getting a dynamic punt return.
which then got us this...
(http://media.lehighvalleylive.com/sports_impact/photo/andy-reid-and-desean-jackson-celebrate-4feb55a7230ed829.jpg)
It impressed upon him the importance of passing up that guy and taking him with their second pick?
The Eagles will "snag" Zoltan in the 1st.
Are you saying Trevor Laws wasn't a better pick than Desean Jackson?
any of yous guys know anything about alex brown? he's a de just released by the bears since they signed peppers. doesn't have overwhelming stats, but he has 43.5 sacks over 8 years. obviously, there's nothing great about that, but his stats have been very consistant throughout his career. i know nothing about him though but he might be worth a look for d-line depth.
He's a borderline starter and probably nothing more than a 30 year old boring rotational dude. Just like every other DE the Eagles have had outside of Hugh and Cole.
hes all or nothing...seems like he will break off a four sack game then go three games without a hurry
he was AWFUL last year and im guessing is just about done which is why they released him
so he's basically like darren howard.....but cheaper?
A slightly better version of Juqua Parker
QuoteEagles | Could be interested in R. Sims
Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:44:26 -0700
John Clayton, of ESPN, reports the Philadelphia Eagles could have interest in acquiring Seattle Seahawks restricted free-agent OG Rob Sims.
mcnabb for sims!
finally some good news!
http://www.csnphilly.com/04/01/10/Source-Eagles-Sign-Banner-to-3-Year-Exte/landing.html?blockID=208399&feedID=704
Quote from: SunMo on April 01, 2010, 03:24:34 PM
finally some good news!
http://www.csnphilly.com/04/01/10/Source-Eagles-Sign-Banner-to-3-Year-Exte/landing.html?blockID=208399&feedID=704
IGY, can I buy your season tickets?
Three more years for them to save up for that high powered laser to cut him off the shriveling carcass of the franchise?
:puke
the good news just keeps on coming.
Let's take a moment to reminisce about Joe doing things he shouldn't...
talking into one microphone, in public:
(http://bountybowl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/joebanner1.jpg)
talking into a lot of microphones, again in public:
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/EDIMBMJHCKIP/banner_470_050802.jpg)
going on the radio:
(http://bountybowl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/joebanneraddress.jpg)
standing next to someone tall:
(http://www.phillymag.com/images/uploads/articles/7069_article.jpg)
attempting a smile:
(http://www.whyy.org/91FM/images/tib_joebanner.jpg)
attempting a bigger smile, in front of a microphone
(http://bleedgreenforever.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/34834.jpg)
telling Andy to try this new diet:
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1012/nfl_g_reid_banner1_576.jpg)
being photographed with a regulation-size football
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/news/banner-072506.jpg)
and WTF is this picture I found Topeka searching for Joe Banner?
(http://www.phillygameday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jackson_desean-291x300.jpg)
Three cheers for Joe!
where's a nice ramdom shooting in philly when you need it.
i feel worse than when bush was reelected
an atom bomb cannot his the novacre (when pimp isnt there) soon enough
how laughable is it that joe banner got an "extension"
like he even has a contract
he will be there as long as lurie owns the team or he pursues something else
the headline might as well read "jeffrey lurie doesnt sell eagles"
im pretty sure him and jeff and have gay sex on your season ticket money while laughing at how they conned you again
Quote from: KDS on April 01, 2010, 04:30:28 PM
im pretty sure him and jeff and have gay sex on your season ticket money while laughing at how they conned you again
jesus christ, why would someone's mind even go here ?
He's got some time on his hands in north Mexico. No HBO and all.
CBS Sportsline's Clark Judge Reporting Sheldon Brown and Chris Gocong to CLE...
for one of two packages--a draft pick and starting-quality player, or two draft picks and a backup-quality player.
Pending Sheldon's ability to negotiate new contract w/Cleveland.
Here's the "official" from Philly.com...
QuoteEagles reportedly close to deal with Browns
The Eagles are reportedly on the verge of a trade -- no, not that one.
The Birds are close to a deal to send cornerback Sheldon Brown and linebacker Chris Gocong to the Cleveland Browns, sources told Clark Judge of CBSSports.com. In exchange, the Eagles would get one of two packages -- either a player and a draft pick or two picks and a backup, Judge writes.
The holdup on the deal is Brown agreeing to a new contract, Judge reports. Brown has been disgruntled with his contract sign last spring when he requested a trade. He skipped the team's voluntary minicamp but reported on time for training camp and had one of his better seasons, including a career-high five interceptions. He also played through a hamstring injury.
At the owners meeting last week, coach Andy Reid said the Eagles had received "a few" inquiries about Brown, and added this: "The nice thing with Sheldon is he's still under contract and been able to make a living. We'll just take it from there. We'll see what happens over time."
Gocong has been the subject of trade discussions for quite some time, as he never became the pass rusher the Eagles expected. He played strongside linebacker for the Eagles, but Judge reports he would move inside with the Browns. Gocong signed his restricted free agent tender earlier this week. The Eagles tendered him at the original third-round level.
Asked about the strongside linebacker situaton, Reid said, "You've got Chris (Gocong) and (Moise) Fokou. We'll see what happens there."
The connections between the Eagles and Browns have been well-documented. New Browns general manager Tom Heckert formerly held that same position with the Eagles, and Reid and new Browns president Mike Holmgren are best friends.
The Eagles are single-handedly dismantling this team and ridding it of any veterans with backbone enough to stand up to management.
Meanwhile the four-eyed troll corksucker in charge gets a raise and a three year extension.
HATE.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 07:59:37 AM
The Eagles are single-handedly dismantling this team and ridding it of any veterans with backbone enough to stand up to management.
Meanwhile the four-eyed troll corksucker in charge gets a raise and a three year extension.
HATE.
c'mon rome, when did gocong ever stand up to management.
I hope they go 3-13.
Really. I REALLY do.
I don't necessesarily want them going 3-13 because that would mean a fall and winter of misery for me. But getting rid of a guy like Sheldon just because he's looking for a better deal financially smacks of the sort of petty and vindictive behavior that should be investigated by the league.
There's simply no rhyme or reason to getting rid of a guy who's never missed a game in 9 years in the league, especially considering the fact that his play hasn't diminished yet. Not only that, they're actually weakening a position of relative strength on the team, which makes even less sense.
I'd be happy with Brown staying, but if they can get something for him at 31 years of age I say go for it. Not like this team is winning squat next season. The Browns have 3 3's and 3 5's in the upcoming draft.
Every other team in the NFL presumably is trying to get stronger right now. With each passing move it appears the Eagles are trying to get weaker for 2010. Sorry but that doesn't sound smart to me. It's sounds arrogant and presumptuous, which, strangely enough, are two adjectives that describe the collection of douchebags who run the team to a tee.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
Every other team in the NFL presumably is trying to get stronger right now. With each passing move it appears the Eagles are trying to get weaker for 2010. Sorry but that doesn't sound smart to me. It's sounds arrogant and presumptuous, which, strangely enough, are two adjectives that describe the collection of douchebags who run the team to a tee.
I agree. Hope y'all enjoy paying money for your tickets this year. :P
Stupid.
farg you Banner, Howie and Reid.
Welcome to the dark side.
:-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
Every other team in the NFL presumably is trying to get stronger right now. With each passing move it appears the Eagles are trying to get weaker for 2010. Sorry but that doesn't sound smart to me. It's sounds arrogant and presumptuous, which, strangely enough, are two adjectives that describe the collection of douchebags who run the team to a tee.
I agree. Hope y'all enjoy paying money for your tickets this year. :P
I will. This year and every year.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
Every other team in the NFL presumably is trying to get stronger right now. With each passing move it appears the Eagles are trying to get weaker for 2010. Sorry but that doesn't sound smart to me. It's sounds arrogant and presumptuous, which, strangely enough, are two adjectives that describe the collection of douchebags who run the team to a tee.
I agree. Hope y'all enjoy paying money for your tickets this year. :P
I will. This year and every year.
holla !
Good for you.
Personally, I'd feel like I was paying top dollar for a carton of rotten eggs. And not the players, the front office.
That's fine. I've always said I'll never give my tickets up regardless of reason. I'd feel kinda funny being at the stadium at every game over the past 11 years, then not showing up once the team hit the skids.
And "top dollar" is certainly not an accurate term. PSL's aside, football season tickets are the fairest bargain in all of sports.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 09:25:29 AM
That's fine. I've always said I'll never give my tickets up regardless of reason. I'd feel kinda funny being at the stadium at every game over the past 11 years, then not showing up once the team hit the skids.
And "top dollar" is certainly not an accurate term. PSL's aside, football season tickets are the fairest bargain in all of sports.
Exactly, I'm not in a position to afford tickets but would gladly fork over the cash to go to every game if I were. Regardless of if the front office is a bunch of douchebags it shouldn't make you any less of a fan. Oooohhhhhh, we're stickin it to them by not goin...trust me they don't notice since ticket demand is so high.
if you wanna champion some kind of cause by giving up your tickets that's fine but to many it goes beyond the game and who is running the team.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 09:25:29 AM
That's fine. I've always said I'll never give my tickets up regardless of reason. I'd feel kinda funny being at the stadium at every game over the past 11 years, then not showing up once the team hit the skids.
And "top dollar" is certainly not an accurate term. PSL's aside, football season tickets are the fairest bargain in all of sports.
We didn't give up our tickets when the team hit the skids. Is that what you think? We didn't have them last year either...and they went to the Championship game the season before.
that's precisely the sort of lunacy lurie, inc. counts on from us, and we deliver without fail every single time.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 09:25:29 AM
That's fine. I've always said I'll never give my tickets up regardless of reason. I'd feel kinda funny being at the stadium at every game over the past 11 years, then not showing up once the team hit the skids.
And "top dollar" is certainly not an accurate term. PSL's aside, football season tickets are the fairest bargain in all of sports.
We didn't give up our tickets when the team hit the skids. Is that what you think? We didn't have them last year either...and they went to the Championship game the season before.
My post had zero to do with you or your account. I was simply stating that I would not give up my tickets regardless of reason - awful FO, poor record, whatever.
I posed this question elsewhere and this is the response I received...
QuoteThey make their decisions on football, but they care about what your fan experience is like. I think you people should consider that this organization is better than some of you give it credit for. I know, there has not been a Super Bowl and that is what drives all of us. But the Eagles do it very well and have done it very well for a lot of years. The quest for Lombardi hasn't ended. This football team is going to be excellent for years to come.
Note the condescending use of "you people" when referring to the great unwashed known as fans.
Unreal.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 08:12:16 AM
I hope they go 3-13.
Really. I REALLY do.
That is just ridiculous.
Why is that ridiculous?
If its the only way to change the way the team works, a few bad years are worth it.
The fact that there is a "but" after the sentence about not winning a title says everything you need to know about this team.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 10:16:54 AM
I posed this question elsewhere and this is the response I received...
QuoteThey make their decisions on football, but they care about what your fan experience is like. I think you people should consider that this organization is better than some of you give it credit for. I know, there has not been a Super Bowl and that is what drives all of us. But the Eagles do it very well and have done it very well for a lot of years. The quest for Lombardi hasn't ended. This football team is going to be excellent for years to come.
Note the condescending use of "you people" when referring to the great unwashed known as fans.
Unreal.
so spads is posting now ?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 10:19:28 AM
Why is that ridiculous?
If its the only way to change the way the team works, a few bad years are worth it.
You ought to realize by now that they aren't going to change. I really don't have a huge problem with them trading Sheldon, they aren't winning anything next season anyway.
The Eagles care about the fans' experience.
But...
YOU PEOPLE should be thankful that you've got it as good as you do.
Remarkable.
The rumored players from the Browns are D'Qwell Jackson (LB), Jason Trusnik (LB) or Brandon McDonald (DB). It's probably Jackson and a 4th or Trusnik and a 3rd...
Dqwell = yes, take one player and a pick
so now we're laughing at people for having season tickets? bizarro world.
Wow - Jackson is a serious player coming off an injury. If he's going to be healthy, then I'd be fine with him.
Brandon McDonald is noteworthy only because he usually earns a ton of money from the performance bonus pool set up by the NFL. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing is another question.
Never heard of Trusnick.
What type of injury did Dqwell suffer? Can he play SAM?
Trusnik was part of the Braylon Edwards trade with the Jets. White guy, so igy already thinks he's worthless...
So deseans jersey would read De. Jackson and Dqwell would read Dq. Jackson?
Shoulder injury. Played weakside and MLB from what I've gathered
yeah, he was a MLB coming out, smaller, but damn good out of MD. Nice backup plan to Stewey
He had 154 tackles, 6 passes defensed, 3 picks and 2 sacks in 2008. His 2009 numbers were right on par with 2008 before he got hurt.
At 6' 240 he's pretty average size-wise but you can't get past the production he had.
Get.
DQ's twitter: JUst A mAN with a SToRy to tEll!...
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
The rumored players from the Browns are D'Qwell Jackson (LB), Jason Trusnik (LB) or Brandon McDonald (DB). It's probably Jackson and a 4th or Trusnik and a 3rd...
D'Qwell would be a welcome addition.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 11:14:38 AM
DQ's twitter: JUst A mAN with a SToRy to tEll!...
JUANSTRE
cracked it.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 02, 2010, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
The rumored players from the Browns are D'Qwell Jackson (LB), Jason Trusnik (LB) or Brandon McDonald (DB). It's probably Jackson and a 4th or Trusnik and a 3rd...
D'Qwell would be a welcome addition.
name test pass?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 02, 2010, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
The rumored players from the Browns are D'Qwell Jackson (LB), Jason Trusnik (LB) or Brandon McDonald (DB). It's probably Jackson and a 4th or Trusnik and a 3rd...
D'Qwell would be a welcome addition.
name test pass?
Why not?
4th, 5th, and alex hall
Super. Bowl.
someone keep an eye open at the bridges for PG.
Ha what an awful trade.
Alex Hall can pass rush, but he is awful at everything elese.
HORRIBLE
Gargano thinks the eagles could be cutting all this salary because the labor situation is bad and the league might go away for a year.
Jesus farging Christ.
Who's pumped about the camp battle between Ellis Hobbs and Joselio Hanson for a starting CB job? This guy! High five!
Terrible
The Eagles liked Hall so much 2 years ago that they took Dunlap one spot ahead of him...
I just imagined the conversation between Heckert and Howie where Heckert builds up how good Hall is (though no one has ever heard of him) and Howie offers six starters. Then Heckert feels bad about taking advantage of the new guy and opts to take Brown and Gocong.
longer tailgates !
awful!
btw - that's three out of a probable four players on the site banner that are now gone.
QuoteEagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson indicated earlier in the offseason that after making the Pro Bowl in his second NFL season at both wideout and punt returner, he would like to see his contract adjusted and the Eagles have indicated they would like to do that, but that the peculiar rules governing the expiring collective bargaining agreement make it very difficult right now and Jackson could make only 30 percent more than the $385,000 he made last season. In a WIP (610-AM) appearance yesterday with Howard Eskin and Ike Reese, Jackson wasn't asked directly about the 30 percent rule, but he said he and Eagles coach Andy Reid "are on the same page." "The 30 percent rule, it is what it is," he said, adding that he hopes a new collective bargaining agreement will create a more favorable atmosphere. "I'm a patient guy. I'm going to sit back and patiently wait. I know my time will come, sooner or later." Jackson said he wasn't planning to miss any OTAs or anything to dramatize his plight. "You've got my word, I'll be here," he said.
well rome, looks like you can calm down about djack becoming the next owens.
WTF?
Thread title adjusted to match the current offseason.
niiiiiice.
I, for one, love the idea of trading a guy that's got five more good years in him for a guy and some draft picks that won't be on the roster in two years.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 02, 2010, 01:03:24 PM
I, for one, love the idea of trading a guy that's got five more good years in him for a guy and some draft picks that won't be on the roster in two years.
Ditto. Great move. Can't wait to go to the games!
sheldon is washed up but trading him for what essentially amounts to a bag of balls is a clear indication of two things:
1. banner inc is cheap
2. bannier inc is resentful
but didnt we already know that? how didnt we see this coming? sheldon spoke out, wanted more $, never towed the company line, never kissed banners ring, probably looked down on roseman, probably privately spoke out against andy. he was a "troublemaker" and someone who wasnt buying into the "plan." he was a bad influence on the young guys.
he had to go. had to.
Quote from: KDS on April 02, 2010, 01:14:12 PM
sheldon is washed up
Stopped reading after this.
::)
did you enjoy watching his carcass run up and down the field last year? jeez i know you love the guy but hes not a top tier corner anymore. not that im defending banner inc for the move, but its not like they gave up someone in his prime.
he just turned farging 30. he's not past his prime.
He played injured all year. It happens.
You're a moron. We deal.
oh, what a surprise. he was injured. seems to be a running theme.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 01:13:00 PM
Can't wait to go to the games!
Really?? Glad to see this will be the new thing for a while.
Because I'm too lazy to look, can someone post all the picks the Eagles now have?
Quote from: KDS on April 02, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
oh, what a surprise. he was injured. seems to be a running theme.
For who? Him? He never missed a game and never had injury issues before last year. What theme?
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 02, 2010, 01:28:08 PMBecause I'm too lazy to look, can someone post all the picks the Eagles now have?
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1 = own
2 = own
3 = own + Seattle's
4 = own + Cleveland's
5 = Cleveland's
6 = Indy's
7 = two compensatory
what did we get for lito again ?
As if I didn't know who was gonna come through with the info..Easy E to the rescue as always.
he's straight outta compton
pretty funny how not too long ago the eagles biggest need was the wr's.. now it's just about everything but.
Quote from: smeags on April 02, 2010, 01:37:26 PM
what did we get for lito again ?
Cornelius Ingram and Darryl Tapp
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
he just turned farging 30. he's not past his prime.
He played injured all year. It happens.
You're a moron. We deal.
He is 31, I would be shocked if he has anything left after 2 years. Still I don't like this trade.
does this possibly clear up the way for a mcnabb for NA trade now ?
Na Brown?
So it essentially looks like they got a 4th and 5th for Brown and a swap out of Gocong for Hall.
I dont think its that much of a disaster of a trade. You cant expect to get too much more than that--especially the way the market is for 30+ year old vets and the upcoming unknown seasons ahead. I would at least think that hard-charger Roseman could of at least negotiated a 3rd for Brown being that he is highly regarded as a decent corner around the league, but Roseman is a rookie negotiator.
Its definitely a downgrade on that side of the ball, but the guy was a disgruntled corner expecting a new contract. They didnt want to go into another off-season saga with that on their plate. You gotta cut bait, get what you can and move on.
Quote from: reese125 on April 02, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
cut bait, get what you can and move on.
When NFL Films comes out with their "Story of the Eagles 2010 Off-Season", this should be the title.
I hope MURP is reading this...
they are the farging florida marlins of the NFL
Except they dont have any championships...farg
and they actually make money
ok, other than that, it still applies
Quote from: reese125 on April 02, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
Its definitely a downgrade on that side of the ball, but the guy was a disgruntled corner expecting a new contract. They didnt want to go into another off-season saga with that on their plate. You gotta cut bait, get what you can and move on.
Your defense of the Eagles is indefensible.
Brown never caused a scene or a problem last year. And there was no "saga". Give me a farging break. He played his ass off, through injury...and never missed a game. Played all out whenever he got on the field. Stfu.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 02, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
Its definitely a downgrade on that side of the ball, but the guy was a disgruntled corner expecting a new contract. They didnt want to go into another off-season saga with that on their plate. You gotta cut bait, get what you can and move on.
Your defense of the Eagles is indefensible.
Brown never caused a scene or a problem last year. And there was no "saga". Give me a farging break. He played his ass off, through injury...and never missed a game. Played all out whenever he got on the field. Stfu.
He's a 30 year old malcontent who's on the down side of his career. Good Riddance. There was no 'saga' during the season after he pissed and moaned all offseason about his contract then showed up on opening day with this on:
(http://enrico.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451af4b69e20120a5dc5a02970c-800wi)
This team is clearly rebuilding and has really no shot at a title this year so what was the use of keeping him around?
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 03:36:10 PM
He's a 30 year old malcontent who's on the down side of his career. Good Riddance. There was no 'saga' during the season after he pissed and moaned all offseason about his contract then showed up on opening day with this on:
(http://enrico.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451af4b69e20120a5dc5a02970c-800wi)
LOLOLOL at the crew on here defending the front office.
Malcontent? Jesus Christ.
PS...for the first time maybe EVER...I can sit here and laugh at how homertastic some of you idiots sound
my defense of the eagles...ha...let me go and just hop on the phillygirl train of thought at all times to fit in
problem is heads in here cant be open-minded on decisions that are made by the front office because everything is anti-this or anti-that NO MATTER WHAT. to sit there and tell me that brown didnt come out in the media last year and discuss his desire for a new contract is delusional, but expected from you. He caused a gripe, it didnt work, then let it got to earn a living...you know...kind of what all players wind up doing when they realize they cant get what they want.
wake up girl
ha - a pos, a four and a five for two starters.
NOT REBUILDING!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 03:40:03 PM
PS...for the first time maybe EVER...I can sit here and laugh at how homertastic some of you idiots sound
you're right I've always been a big front office guy. Get over your personal feelings for the guy, I know he was nice to you when you met him and he was a decent player here but it's time to move on. Let me ask you this: Are we Superbowl contenders next season? If the answer is 'no' then I'm glad they got what they could for a player who's on the downside of his career. And if you don't think he's a 'malcontent' then there's no hope for you. The guy pissed and moaned every chance he got about getting a new deal. Geeee such a great guy he played for only $5 million of the deal that he signed. What a warrior. He's lost a step and is clearly on the downside of his career...not to mention he got destroyed by Dallas in back to back games.
dude - he was hurt. he was having the best season of his career before he got injured, yet instead of Hoydaing it out, he stuck it out and played the rest of the season.
whatever, though. he's better than anyone else on the roster, so of course it makes sense for the eagles to rid themselves of him.
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 03:40:03 PM
PS...for the first time maybe EVER...I can sit here and laugh at how homertastic some of you idiots sound
you're right I've always been a big front office guy. Get over your personal feelings for the guy, I know he was nice to you when you met him and he was a decent player here but it's time to move on. Let me ask you this: Are we Superbowl contenders next season? If the answer is 'no' then I'm glad they got what they could for a player who's on the downside of his career. And if you don't think he's a 'malcontent' then there's no hope for you. The guy pissed and moaned every chance he got about getting a new deal. Geeee such a great guy he played for only $5 million of the deal that he signed. What a warrior. He's lost a step and is clearly on the downside of his career...not to mention he got destroyed by Dallas in back to back games.
What the farg does that have to do with anything? Oh ooooh, I'm a girl! He was nice to me when i met him so I MUST like him because of that! stfu too.
I can't even discuss this with you after that...well, that and the rest of your idiocy coming from your keyboard.
QuoteA high fourth-round pick and a high fifth-round pick have no value? What if you package them to move way up into the second or the third? I told you the Eagles would make a lot of moves. You all wanted moves!! Now you get them, and you whine. I would rather see how the roster shapes up for September. Young team doesn't mean a bad team. I wrote long ago about Sheldon and his injury last year and his performance. I saw this coming a long time ago. It isn't about the contract.
HHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.
What a crock of shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 02, 2010, 03:40:03 PM
PS...for the first time maybe EVER...I can sit here and laugh at how homertastic some of you idiots sound
you're right I've always been a big front office guy. Get over your personal feelings for the guy, I know he was nice to you when you met him and he was a decent player here but it's time to move on. Let me ask you this: Are we Superbowl contenders next season? If the answer is 'no' then I'm glad they got what they could for a player who's on the downside of his career. And if you don't think he's a 'malcontent' then there's no hope for you. The guy pissed and moaned every chance he got about getting a new deal. Geeee such a great guy he played for only $5 million of the deal that he signed. What a warrior. He's lost a step and is clearly on the downside of his career...not to mention he got destroyed by Dallas in back to back games.
What the farg does that have to do with anything? Oh ooooh, I'm a girl! He was nice to me when i met him so I MUST like him because of that! stfu too.
I can't even discuss this with you after that...well, that and the rest of your idiocy coming from your keyboard.
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The team has rid itself of roughly 10 veterans this offseason and you don't seem to care, but suddenly Brown's released and you're up in arms. Give me a break. And lol at the girl comment.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 03:56:57 PM
dude - he was hurt. he was having the best season of his career before he got injured, yet instead of Hoydaing it out, he stuck it out and played the rest of the season.
whatever, though. he's better than anyone else on the roster, so of course it makes sense for the eagles to rid themselves of him.
He wasn't having the 'best season of his career', he was having an average year by his standards. If he was so hurt he could have chosen to sit until he healed, players play through pain all the time. Again, not SB contenders next season, the team has already released a shtein ton of veterans, he's on the downside of his career. Am I missing something? Accept that we're rebuilding and you'll feel a whole lot better about the situation. The good thing is at least this team has some young up and coming talent to watch.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 03:56:57 PM
whatever, though. he's better than anyone else on the roster, so of course it makes sense for the eagles to rid themselves of him.
Im glad that you've come around to the fact that since Mcnabb is better than all the other qb's on the roster you're against the move to let him go too.
SD, I was flipping out pissed off and hating on the FO after Dawkins was let go the way he was last year. or do you forget that already?
I have been flipping out pissed off at this FO for a while now. This was insult to injury.
:CF's newest smiley:
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Oh, and Reese... the Eagles actually have not one, but TWO competent alternatives to McNabb. Comparing giving Sheldon Brown away for next to nothing and the McNabb scenarios that have been floating around is inexplicably retarded even for you.
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 04:05:54 PMHe wasn't having the 'best season of his career', he was having an average year by his standards. If he was so hurt he could have chosen to sit until he healed, players play through pain all the time. Again, not SB contenders next season, the team has already released a shtein ton of veterans, he's on the downside of his career. Am I missing something? Accept that we're rebuilding and you'll feel a whole lot better about the situation. The good thing is at least this team has some young up and coming talent to watch.
I don't have a problem with them rebuilding because they clearly weren't going to seriously contend with the roster they had. That's not to say they couldn't have added pieces this offseason to be serious contenders but they chose to slash payroll under the guise of "getting younger". God, the very suggestion of it makes me furious.
What I have an issue is THEM telling us this move wasn't about money, it wasn't about Sheldon speaking up over his contract, and they aren't rebuilding.
Roseman has gone on record repeatedly now saying they aren't rebuilding.
Maybe you can accept being lied to by those corksuckers but I've had my fill for a lifetime.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 04:23:47 PM
:CF's newest smiley:
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Oh, and Reese... the Eagles actually have not one, but TWO competent alternatives to McNabb. Comparing giving Sheldon Brown away for next to nothing and the McNabb scenarios that have been floating around is inexplicably retarded even for you.
Wait...Mike Vick and Kevin Kolb are competent replacements for McNabb? You been huffing asbestos?
A former pro bowler and a guy who threw for 300 yards in each of his first two NFL starts = better than Joselio Hansen & Ellis Hobbs.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 02, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 04:23:47 PM
:CF's newest smiley:
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Oh, and Reese... the Eagles actually have not one, but TWO competent alternatives to McNabb. Comparing giving Sheldon Brown away for next to nothing and the McNabb scenarios that have been floating around is inexplicably retarded even for you.
Wait...Mike Vick and Kevin Kolb are competent replacements for McNabb? You been huffing asbestos?
You said best man on the CB roster. Try and stick to one message and go with it. You're a big boy Romey....I cant always be here to pick up after you when youre confused.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 04:27:18 PM
What I have an issue is THEM telling us this move wasn't about money, it wasn't about Sheldon speaking up over his contract, and they aren't rebuilding.
Roseman has gone on record repeatedly now saying they aren't rebuilding.
Maybe you can accept being lied to by those corksuckers but I've had my fill for a lifetime.
Show me one team in the history of sports whose GM said 'we're rebuilding'. It's not good business to say that, because that's not what the average fan wants to hear.
"We're rebuilding" is usually said after a new coach is hired for a team coming off a horrible season.
Vick is about as incompetent as it gets
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 04:27:18 PM
What I have an issue is THEM telling us this move wasn't about money, it wasn't about Sheldon speaking up over his contract, and they aren't rebuilding.
Roseman has gone on record repeatedly now saying they aren't rebuilding.
Maybe you can accept being lied to by those corksuckers but I've had my fill for a lifetime.
Show me one team in the history of sports whose GM said 'we're rebuilding'. It's not good business to say that, because that's not what the average fan wants to hear.
i don't think the fans have as much of a problem hearing it as the players would because it would basically be the front office saying that the players aren't any good......which is what this team is getting close to being.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 02, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
Vick is about as incompetent as it gets
Vick is a horrible human being, but only a mediocre and aging quarterback. They could do worse.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 02, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 02, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
Vick is about as incompetent as it gets
Vick is a horrible human being, but only a mediocre and aging quarterback. They could do worse.
And yet he's still better at his position than either Joselio Hansen or Ellis Hobbs are at theirs.
You'd think that would be self-evident to everyone, but I suppose not.
Quote from: reese125 on April 02, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
You said best man on the CB roster. Try and stick to one message and go with it. You're a big boy Romey....I cant always be here to pick up after you when youre confused.
Hey dickhead, he was their best cornerback. Asante Samuel couldn't tackle your flag ass.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 02, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: Mad-Lad on April 02, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
Vick is about as incompetent as it gets
Vick is a horrible human being, but only a mediocre and aging quarterback. They could do worse.
And yet he's still better at his position than either Joselio Hansen or Ellis Hobbs are at theirs.
You'd think that would be self-evident to everyone, but I suppose not.
We don't know the size of Mike's Vick to really know if he's more qualified than Joselio. Let's face it, all they're going to do is dick around this season.
lol wut?
he's talking about joselio's giant wang.
Asante's poor tackling aside, he's the best CB on the roster.
Bobby Taylor couldn't tackle for shtein and made no effort to even try, but he was a helluva CB.
Sheldon was a good CB. For what they got for him (they should not have traded him, IMO) its a crime.
And Ellis Hobbs is a better CB than Vick is a QB, Romey.
yeah, i got that, sarge.
just can't believe we're going there, that's all.
Considering the roster, what do you think is going on the next :CF banner?
how about dollar signs?
Jeffy
Christina
Joey
Andy
Howie
and their suits have to be alternating colors
Baby blue
Pink
Green catsuit with black question marks
Black
Plaid
teletubbies?
might as well bow down to the FO
and lol @ sd whining about sheldon whining about getting caked. dood is trying to get more $. either he gets it or it stays in luries pocket. enough with people crying because athletes want to get paid. they should try to get paid as much as they can. its not like jeff was gonna give you that $ or donate it to the charity. it was going to buy another 200 foot boat. come on.
Quote"We're trying to win, we're always trying to win," Roseman said. "For us, this was a football decision. We're excited about some of the players on our team and we're excited about the quality of this draft."
Holy shtein this guy is nauseating.
Quote from: KDS on April 02, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
might as well bow down to the FO
and lol @ sd whining about sheldon whining about getting caked. dood is trying to get more $. either he gets it or it stays in luries pocket. enough with people crying because athletes want to get paid. they should try to get paid as much as they can. its not like jeff was gonna give you that $ or donate it to the charity. it was going to buy another 200 foot boat. come on.
I don't have a problem with him wanting more money, I have a problem with him making it a media spectacle. Keep that shtein in house, has an athlete whining to the media for more $$$$ ever worked?
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quote"We're trying to win, we're always trying to win," Roseman said. "For us, this was a football decision. We're excited about some of the players on our team and we're excited about the quality of this draft."
Holy shtein this guy is nauseating.
and the Cliff Lee trade was a baseball decision.
you go the media for leverage, to make banner ic know you mean business.
if you go hat in hand to joe and say hey pay me more thanks what do you think hes gonna say?
if you go through the media it might just get done. but then again this is the eagles and when you want more $ they trade you to cleveland for low end draft picks and a crappy linebacker.
He didn't get an extra cent from the Browns nor was he asking for more money from the Eagles. He was simply asking for the money that was remaining on his deal to be guaranteed. What the farg is so unreasonable about that?
Incidentally, Heckert did exactly that the moment Brown was traded. No wonder he left for Cleveland to run the Browns.
I remember the daily updates ESPN ran about Sheldon's shenanigans. They called them Sheldanigans. Good times.
Quote from: Dalton on April 02, 2010, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 05:23:26 PM
Quote"We're trying to win, we're always trying to win," Roseman said. "For us, this was a football decision. We're excited about some of the players on our team and we're excited about the quality of this draft."
Holy shtein this guy is nauseating.
and the Cliff Lee trade was a baseball decision.
:-D
Quote from: KDS on April 02, 2010, 05:25:23 PM
you go the media for leverage, to make banner ic know you mean business.
if you go hat in hand to joe and say hey pay me more thanks what do you think hes gonna say?
if you go through the media it might just get done. but then again this is the eagles and when you want more $ they trade you to cleveland for low end draft picks and a crappy linebacker.
again, show me an athlete whose had success with going through the media for a payday.
Quote from: Rome on April 02, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
He didn't get an extra cent from the Browns nor was he asking for more money from the Eagles. He was simply asking for the money that was remaining on his deal to be guaranteed. What the farg is so unreasonable about that?
Incidentally, Heckert did exactly that the moment Brown was traded. No wonder he left for Cleveland to run the Browns.
Word is theys're going to re-do his deal
im pretty sure westbrook casually mentioned some stuff and wound up getting paid more. but even so, who cares if it works of it doesnt work. guys are trying to get paid, they arent playing sports for free. let em do what they want, if it hurts your feelings, then stop reading? ignore it? i dont know, you could always disappear, post stuff on facebook, then come back again.
Sheldon's contract was reworked to move some of his remaining base into a bonus, but he didn't get any extra years or salary...
Quote from: KDS on April 02, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
im pretty sure westbrook casually mentioned some stuff and wound up getting paid more. but even so, who cares if it works of it doesnt work. guys are trying to get paid, they arent playing sports for free. let em do what they want, if it hurts your feelings, then stop reading? ignore it? i dont know, you could always disappear, post stuff on facebook, then come back again.
or become a texican
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 02, 2010, 05:35:14 PM
Sheldon's contract was reworked to move some of his remaining base into a bonus, but he didn't get any extra years or salary...
That's all he wanted. Exactly what he wanted.
everyone happy now?
motherfarging lolololo x a billion @ pg saying this is why she gave up tickets.....revisionist history X two seeds plus a ball and chain = ticketless
i have to say the most ironic thing ive ever seen is the same people saying the eagles stink and wont win anything in the near future are the same people getting mad at letting sheldon go....i love sheldon as much as the next man but for god sakes shut the farg up about the front office giving up...the team SUCKS...they werent making the playoffs next year much less winning a super bowl with sheldon...
so this is the way to go...and they are in a perfect spot....an average to good roster who needs pruging because they are 11 months aaway from a strike...think big picture and long term...not sheldon farging brown
if after this labor hell ends they dont go all out
THEN twist dry your vaginas...
until then shut the farg up
IGY please. The whole ticket shtein on here was more in jest. Of COURSE we didn't give them up because of the FO, dipshtein.
And the problem is the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that this joke of a front office doesn't know how to treat players....or the fans.
You can say, oh its a business, blah blah blabbity blah.....all you want. But this business hasn't succeeded on the field. If you want to be dickbags and win a Super Bowl, fine. If you want to be dickbags to your players and fans and still can't put a Championship team on that field, farg YOU.
my point is people should have been getting this upset seven eight years ago when they werent making improvements on a really good team...who the farg cares now that they stink now and are letting an old corner go
blow the shtein up wait for the new cba and then make power moves...if they dont do that call me up and im on the hate wagon
this is why i say mcnabb needs to go....yes i hate the motherfarger...but throw that hatred out and its more about the team....why the farg would you want him on this milquetoast ass squad next year
It WAS a problem for years. Its ALWAYS been a problem. I dealt with it, as did a lot of others....until last year. The treatment of Dawkins and the subsequent treatment of the fans by Banner and Reid was absolutely inexcusable. That was my breaking point. I was done after that. I couldn't defend or be happy with anything they did as a result (the FO not the players).
Its not JUST about Sheldon Brown. Its about everything else that led up to this point.
the breaking point was after the st louis loss
wait until phreak gets on here and go on some homertastic delusional rant about how move A and move B combined with an extension to mcnabb could = a superbowl
then youll see!
yeah what was i thinking
Blow me!
Seeing that Sheldon got no more money or years shows exactly how ridiculous this FO is. The man was not asking for anything more than what they'd already given to him. Sheldon wants it moved around a bit. Think they could do that? Nope. Its the principality of it, Smokey!
Shakedown Howie is farging this team up. Strike or no strike they're making unnecessary moves. And the biggest one hasn't even been made yet, but it will be and it will be just like 1999 again. And the farged up this is they don't even need it to be like that...build on what they have, don't tear it down.
I like the fact Hall is 6'5....so there's that.
getting that 6th win with sheldon compared to the 5th without him sure will make a difference
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piling on and wrong thread but lol
OMG! A puke pic! I've never seen that!!
Didn't he throw a TD on the next play?
Bow down to Kevin Kolb, the savior of the Eagles!!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
getting that 6th win with sheldon compared to the 5th without him sure will make a difference
So you're advocating blowing it up?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2010, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
getting that 6th win with sheldon compared to the 5th without him sure will make a difference
So you're advocating blowing it up?
1000%
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2010, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
getting that 6th win with sheldon compared to the 5th without him sure will make a difference
So you're advocating blowing it up?
1000%
I don't see Jeffrey firing Joe, Andy and Shake.
They all got extended or promoted.
You comfortable with those clowns building this team?
im not sure you need to blow it up
but you need to admit and plan that the next 2 years arent going to be superbowl or even playoff years
no
blow it up
clean motherfarging house
wait for the new cba
then put in work
blow up the defense, yes
besides the o-line what needs to be blown up on offense?
and i guess a new punter would help
And Howie's the leader.
Howie, Andy, Marty and Kevin!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2010, 12:55:56 AM
And Howie's the leader.
Howie, Andy, Marty and Kevin!
i dont understand this argument...the same people youre mocking for putting together a team in a couple years are the sames ones that are in charge now?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 12:58:15 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2010, 12:55:56 AM
And Howie's the leader.
Howie, Andy, Marty and Kevin!
i dont understand this argument...the same people youre mocking for putting together a team in a couple years are the sames ones that are in charge now?
My point is that they're doing this dumb shtein now and have done some head scratching things in the past. How the hell can you have confidence that they will put the right pieces in place?
Want more Matt McCoy picks? How about Bryan Smith? What about 3-4 OLB Asian Engineers crammed into a 4-3? Let savvy veterans walk? Trade an elite QB?
Blind leading the blind.
Get to a SB in 2004 and then only sign Mike farging McMahon after?
farg those idiots making the decisions. If you want it blown up, then the whole damn thing needs C4 attached.
Otherwise build on what you have by spending money and adding pieces and trying to win.
youre preaching to the choir...somehow tho i think this is a master plan to shield five from everything
I'd love to hear the breakdown of that...
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Dateline Brownsville...
Amo a los Eagles de Filiadelfia!
Kevin Kolb es mi amor!
lol
its too easy with 5. funny pictures a plenty.
i am fully on the kolb bandwagon, baby. im driving the bus. when he turns out to be aaron rodgers you are gonna ask to get on and it will be DENIED.
Ohhhh, I'm scared.
Hold me.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 03, 2010, 01:27:56 AM
Dateline Brownsville...
Amo a los Eagles de Filiadelfia!
Kevin Kolb es mi amor!
lololol
Quote from: KDS on April 03, 2010, 01:30:13 AM
i am fully on the kolb bandwagon, baby. im driving the bus. when he turns out to be aaron rodgers you are gonna ask to get on and it will be DENIED.
see this is where you become a clown and ruin it for the rest of us
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 03, 2010, 01:38:52 AM
Quote from: KDS on April 03, 2010, 01:30:13 AM
i am fully on the kolb bandwagon, baby. im driving the bus. when he turns out to be aaron rodgers you are gonna ask to get on and it will be DENIED.
see this is where you become a clown and ruin it for the rest of us
oooo set me straight, pop
that was actually the coolest thing he ever did...in retrospect it looks douchy as farg because its that icehole...but at the time even i was on board with it
lol @ playing telephone being the coolest thing he ever did
if he breaks the phone and picks it up and hands it to eli while saying "hey eli, your career's on line 1" or something, then i'd be down.
you are eli
explain that analogy by telling me when i won the superbowl over an 18-0 team and when i ruined my reputation with that funny pic of him plastered
youre digging way to deep...you just look dopey like him
thanks, john goodman
see thats a compliment....anyone that rocks a liver helmet im down with
This is mildly amusing... Click Me (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100403_Solomon_Jones__If_wives_thought_like_general_managers____.html)
QuoteIN THE WAKE of the news that the Eagles have traded cornerback Sheldon Brown and linebacker Chris Gocong to the Cleveland Browns for a fourth-round pick, a fifth-round pick, and a player we've never heard of, my wife, LaVeta, has begun paying attention to the business side of football.
She's always been smarter than I am, so with a little research, she easily figured out that the Philadelphia Eagles, who have also spoken of trading franchise quarterback Donovan McNabb, have mastered the art of moving people before they decline. After some digging, she learned that they've been right most of the time.
They were right on Troy Vincent, who was replaced by the now-departed Sheldon Brown. They were right on Jeremiah Trotter, whose shredded knees gave out five minutes after he hit the jackpot with the Washington taterskins. They were right on Hugh Douglas, who took a boatload of money from the Jacksonville Jaguars before his worn-out shoulder betrayed him.
Her curiosity piqued by the Eagles' track record, LaVeta began listening to their rationale for trading Sheldon. She heard general manager Howie Roseman deny that the team is rebuilding, even as it jettisons everybody but the waterboy. She heard the Eagles' brain trust say that none of the moves was about money, although it's hard to ignore Brown's contract demands and McNabb's outsized numbers for the coming year. She also heard them say they were in it to win.
Perhaps that's why, when the mechanic told her that it might be time to change the water pump and timing belt on her car, LaVeta adopted the home team's
business model. She put the pedal to the metal, and decided that she would make a move involving her franchise player - me.
The details of the trade were worked out late yesterday, and by evening, I was cleaning out my locker.
"Where's Daddy going?" the kids asked when they saw me packing up my laptop.
"He's been traded," LaVeta said.
The kids began to wail.
"It's OK." She patted them on their heads and dried their tears. "Daddy still has a few good years left, so we're going to move him while we can."
"But he's our daddy!" Eve cried, grabbing my leg and refusing to let go.
Little Solomon joined the scrum, and LaVeta did what any good general manager would do. She called security.
"You kids are just like those pesky Eagles fans," she said as four guards ushered me out. "You're too caught up in all the things Daddy's done for us in the past. This is about the future, and we believe that with the veteran leadership we have left in this house, we can go for it all this year."
Eve, at age 8, has a good head for business, so as I stared through the window at the family that had traded me, my baby posed the question that we all wanted answered.
"Well," she said, while sniffling and wiping her eyes, "did you at least get something in return for Daddy?"
"Of course!" LaVeta exclaimed. "I got a timing belt, a water pump, and two fifth-round picks in the upcoming daddy draft. Not only will the car be running for years to come. Your new daddy's cholesterol will be way under 200. We'll be able to eat fried foods again! Isn't that great?"
The kids wailed. LaVeta grinned. I took my laptop and went home to my mother.
OK, maybe none of this really happened. Maybe I didn't get traded for car parts and college kids. But if the world were like the NFL, this could happen to any of us. That's why we must do everything we can to stop our wives from becoming too interested in football. Once they grasp the concept of trading away a man while he still has tread on his tires, none of us will be safe.
Not even me.
I like this trade. And I actually don't think the Eagles team is all that much different right now than it was at the end of the season. Even if McNabb goes most of the starters are still in place and most of the old vet backups they cut were straight garbage anyway so farg'em. Howard and Brown will be missed but were getting older. I'm remarkably unmoved by all of this.
I question whether they have enough depth at cornerback, but who am I to doubt Howie Roseman?
Quote from: rjs246 on April 03, 2010, 10:04:09 AM
I like this trade. And I actually don't think the Eagles team is all that much different right now than it was at the end of the season. Even if McNabb goes most of the starters are still in place and most of the old vet backups they cut were straight garbage anyway so farg'em. Howard and Brown will be missed but were getting older. I'm remarkably unmoved by all of this.
People are just up in arms about the Brown trade because he's been here a while and was a fan favorite. The other guys - aside from Westbrook but we know why he's gone - were expendable and I don't really blame the Eagles for cutting them.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 03, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
I question whether they have enough depth at cornerback
Obviously, and obviously the answer is no, they don't. But I would say that we were just given a guarantee that we'll see a high pick used on the secondary.
So a CB, a linebacker, and a safety should all be drafted in a few days. No doubt they'll come away with a guard/tackle project or two, an end, a TE, an undersized fourth round backer, a RB and a punter. Good times.
Personally, my view on the trade is that it is a not a big deal. For one: You clowns who are upset are laughable. Do you not expect this from this team? It is par for the course. Second, the same logic hold true if you believe they should move McNabb when it came to Sheldon: They aren't going to win a championship in the next three years, they obviously believe that. Trade aways guys who can help you stockpile picks so that you have better odds of adding guys who will be around for the next run. Can't really fault them for that.
In summary, people need to come to the realization that this team is in full on "retooling" mode. I'm excited to watch a lot of new, young players run around.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 03, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
So a CB, a linebacker, and a safety should all be drafted in a few days. No doubt they'll come away with a guard/tackle project or two, an end, a TE, an undersized fourth round backer, a RB and a punter. Good times.
CB, LB and S are obviously very high on the needs list but I would OL as well. No way they should use a pick on a TE. Backup TEs are what the undrafted rookie market was made for.
Trent Cole will be 28 this season. If they're not going to win anything for three years, why not trade him now instead of two years from now? They could get a first rounder for him.
not sure exactly what trent cole's salary is, but i'm sure it's not more than that of a 1st round pick.....at least, when comparing guaranteed money.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 03, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
Trent Cole will be 28 this season. If they're not going to win anything for three years, why not trade him now instead of two years from now? They could get a first rounder for him.
Desean Jackson will be 30 some day.
Trade!
If they want to rebuild that is fine, but they got bad value for Sheldon Brown, and they just created another need on defense by trading him. Which means one of corner/linebacker/safety/defensive end won't be adequately addressed. I'm guessing linebacker as usual.
CB is probably a lock to be the first pick now.
A trade up for Joe Haden...Kyle Wilson....Devin McCourty
Goodbye hopes of drafting Weatherspoon...
Yep. It sucks. Even though they are good corners and would be good additions, we didn't need one two days ago.
Although it should still be addressed, Id be surprised if they went CB first pick with a young Hobbs right there. Hes not dominating, but not a bad corner at all. Hes a legit starter, and did not just come in for kickoff duties.
Another year in the system this year...I think he'll be fine.
my hatred of this front office continues to grow every farging day. for 10 years, we've been watching a team get about as close to a championship as possible without actually winning (buffalo bills excluded). and there's really only been 1 off season (2004) where they legitimately tried to improve the team as a whole.
every other year, they get rid of quality players in exchange for younger, less proven players or draft picks which are a total crap shoot.
is getting rid of sheldon brown a smart business decision? probably. is it a smart football decision? no. cb was the only part of this defense that wasn't a concern. business decisions ALWAYS take precedence with this team over football. it's the same shtein year after year with these farging clowns.
and now there's another need to be addressed in the draft, as if this team didn't have enough of them already.
funny thing is, out of all the players they've let go over the years, this one probably makes the most sense. but that's hardly a consolation, nor does it change the fact that they simply don't care about their players and they especially don't care about winning a championship.
You like Hobbs? He was mediocre in NE and he was pretty bad here as a corner and then he had an injury that was career threatening. Who knows how he'll play in 2010?
They are going CB in the first round and once again we will have to watch the worst linebackers in the NFL.
Not you, Reese. I'm too lazy to quote these days.
GOLD STANDARD!
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Samuel: Entire Eagles Organization Must Improve
Sunday, April 4, 2010
Posted: 1:39 a.m.
By Andy Schwartz
CSNPhilly.com
Maybe Asante Samuel is inheriting a role from Sheldon Brown.
When the Eagles traded Brown to Cleveland on Friday, they not only lost a tough, durable cornerback but also one of their more outspoken players.
Samuel, on the other hand, rarely made himself available to reporters.
Maybe that's about to change. Or maybe the three-time Pro Bowl corner just had to get something off his chest.
Over the last few days Samuel and CSN's Derrick Gunn have been exchanging text messages – and the one Gunn received at 12:40 a.m. Sunday was quite compelling:
And I quote "The whole team needs to improve from the front office, to the head coach to the players". And when that happens, things will be better.
The Eagles haven't improved much this offseason. At least not yet. But they've set themselves up to do so. They've parted with several veterans (Brian Westbrook, et al), shedded salary, added depth (Marlin Jackson, Alex Hall, Darryl Tapp) and collected draft picks (they have 10).
Maybe Samuel's next text will come after the draft.
So now the Philly media has slunk to the depths of publishing private texts between players and its members?
Awesome.
Oh, and 12:40 AM? No chance Asante was out partying with Munson when he texted that, is there?
safe to say Samuel just deleted Gunns ass from his phone for diming him out like that
Could have wrote the article without adding his name
One less contact-check
Quote from: rjs246 on April 03, 2010, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 03, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
So a CB, a linebacker, and a safety should all be drafted in a few days. No doubt they'll come away with a guard/tackle project or two, an end, a TE, an undersized fourth round backer, a RB and a punter. Good times.
CB, LB and S are obviously very high on the needs list but I would OL as well. No way they should use a pick on a TE. Backup TEs are what the undrafted rookie market was made for.
I made those comments in jest. Everyone now sees the glaring needs on this team, so my assumption is they will go in the exact opposite direction.
I saw this "article" on BleedingGreenNation and thought it was pretty good, and put the whole thing in perspective:
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Did the Eagles get fair value for Sheldon Brown?
by JasonB on Apr 3, 2010 10:45 AM EDT in News
A interesting discussion on what Sheldon Brown's value is has popped up in the trade thread, but since that's hundreds of comments long and about a lot of stuff... I figured it would be worth singling out the discussion on value.
First, what is the value of Sheldon Brown in trade to the rest of the league? There has been one other notable trade of a corner this offseason, the Chargers sending Antonio Cromartie to the Jets for a 3rd round pick. Cromartie is coming off a down year, but he's still 25 years old. He's got rare size for a corner, sub 4.4 speed, is a former pro bowler, and led the NFL in picks in 2007. His game isn't without warts as he's probably a sub Asante level tackler... but it's still probably fair to call him one of the most promising young corners in the league. He was also in the last year of his contract.
So, if a 25 year old former pro bowler was worth a 3rd round pick... what is Sheldon Brown worth? Well, he's 31 years old and coming off a very solid season where he started off very well but struggled late thanks to injuries. Brown is a great tackler, but is probably best described as an average cover corner. If you could point to his biggest weakness, it's that he gets beat deep. He's an ironman who never misses games and is generally a very consistent presence. An above average player by most measures.He's never made a pro bowl, but turned down an alternate invite this year. Brown has been disgruntled about his contract for the past couple seasons and requested a trade last offseason.
I don't think anyone can say that in terms of trade value, Sheldon Brown is worth more than Antonio Cromartie. The youth alone makes Cromartie more valueable in terms of a trade, but his size and superior "glamour stats (INTS)" certainly help as well. If the base value here is Cromartie at a 3rd round value, then that would make Sheldon's value at least a notch below. When you consider that a trade for Brown is also probably contingent on a big new contract... that might push his value down a bit as well.
The one issue with this trade that makes it tough to evaluate is that Brown wasn't the only part of the trade and the Eagles didn't get a single pick in return. Chris Gocong was part of the package and they got two picks and player in return. However, even if the return for Sheldon was only the 4th round pick... it's still probably a fair market value deal. In all likelihood a little more of the total value came in return for Sheldon because Gocong may not even have been worth a 5 alone... but again it's hard to say. Cavorting Eagle summarized a few of the reports about what was traded for what in this fanpost.
Either way, the Eagles did get fair market value in return for Sheldon Brown. It's very unlikely that a better deal was out there. That said, the ability to get fair market value for a player isn't the only factor that makes a player worth trading.
Was Sheldon worth keeping around anyway? That partly depends on whether they thought he'd become a bigger problem this year. Last year he complained about his contract and requested a trade, but still went to training camp and didn't make a big issue of it during the season. Would he have been satisfied to do the same for another year?
On the other side though, it's not as if the Eagles secondary is full of talent and Brown can easily be replaced. Unlike when Brown & Sheppard were waiting in the wings when Bobby Taylor & Troy Vincent were sent packing, there really is no heir apparent ready to step in for Sheldon. Joselio Hanson & Ellis Hobbs are both guys with starting experience, but they aren't going to excite anyone. There's kids like Dimitri Patterson or maybe even Macho Harris(who was a corner in college) but neither were top picks or blue chip talent. So if the Eagles do draft a young corner with a pick this year, he won't have the benefit of sitting behind a good veteran for a year. He could very well be asked to start from day one.
Letting Sheldon go is in some ways like letting Dawkins go. If the team thinks that it was their to leave that's fine... but typically the team has a guy lined up to take the place of the veteran and in these two instances they don't seem to have done that.
As with a lot of these moves, I think it's important that we wait to see the other shoe drop. If August rolls around and the Eagles tell us how great Joselio Hanson is and how he's our starter... I'll be pretty disappointed. However, if they swung a trade for a corner or drafted a top guy, well then maybe trading away Sheldon wasn't so bad.
A lot of people panicked when the Eagles let Tra Thomas walk. When the other shoe dropped on that move, Jason Peters was your new LT. Of course, people panicked when Dawkins left and the other shoe still hasn't dropped on that one...
Interesting choice of words by Samuel there.
Reid just came out and said Asante needed to play better a few days ago.
Coming on the heels of the Dallas debacle where it was said he refused to play certain coverages now the HC and player are sniping at each other.
yay, mo drama fo yo mama.
Quote from: Rome on April 04, 2010, 08:36:57 AM
So now the Philly media has slunk to the depths of publishing private texts between players and its members?
Awesome.
Oh, and 12:40 AM? No chance Asante was out partying with Munson when he texted that, is there?
its reporting, old man. its 2010, people text. its a very informal, easier way of communicating and a solid way to get info.
samuel gave him the okay to use that on the record, so thats why you saw the quote. im sure he said other stuff that gunn didnt use because it was off the record.
thats what happens. hi. when your down taping all in the family to your beta max ill explain more.
lololol @ reporting "texts" as actual journalism.
jesus christ - if that's the way you operate then no wonder you're stuck at the ass end of the world in texico.
Texting has been used by the media for years now.
like you know anything about reporting, journalism or the industry.
it is A way to go about getting info. it is not the tradition way, but there isnt a news outlet that doesnt accept a direct text message from a source as pertinent info. its the same as talking over the phone. players like doing it more than talking. so why not adapt to that?
oh wait. theres a 60 year old dude in florida who is scared of change who sees the word text and immediately thinks of 13 year old girls talking about boys they like. omg!
Let's not miss the important part here, which is where Asante and I were hanging out last night.
Quote from: KDS on April 04, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
like you know anything about reporting, journalism or the industry.
I chortled.
Quote from: KDS on April 04, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
like you know anything about reporting, journalism or the industry.
it is A way to go about getting info. it is not the tradition way, but there isnt a news outlet that doesnt accept a direct text message from a source as pertinent info. its the same as talking over the phone. players like doing it more than talking. so why not adapt to that?
oh wait. theres a 60 year old dude in florida who is scared of change who sees the word text and immediately thinks of 13 year old girls talking about boys they like. omg!
i know enough about the industry to know for certain that a semi-literate douche such as yourself doesn't belong in it.
and obviously i'm not scared of anything that relates to technology. if i were then i certainly wouldn't be posting on an internet message board, now would i?
but keep amusing everyone here with your rants about middle america and old people. in fact, try writing a column about it for the tijuana gazette or whatever bastion of journalism you end up working for after you get shtein-canned in matamoros.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 04, 2010, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: KDS on April 04, 2010, 02:22:59 PM
like you know anything about reporting, journalism or the industry.
I chortled.
As did I
Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.
Quote from: Dalton on April 04, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.
....?
It's two field goals and an extra point, duh.
Quote from: Dillen on April 04, 2010, 06:28:34 PM
Quote from: Dalton on April 04, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.
....?
congrats on being the 1%
Are they still pullling the "we're not rebuilding" story now?
this year is gonna be pretty bad, no doubt
but itll be fun in the sense that we'll see what we got in kolb and good lord are the nfc east games gonna be epic. we'll get our is it 5's fault or andy's fault answers (the answer is both btw) and most importantly we know we wont lose in the nfc title game.
not only because the eagles arent good enough to even make the playoffs, but because the qb isn't a lame duck choking dog soft ass loser anymore! rejoice!
Kind of interesting tidbit from Matt Mosley:
QuoteIn Sunday night's blockbuster trade with the taterskins, the Eagles accomplished their goal of landing a top-42 draft pick for 33-year-old quarterback Donovan McNabb. And Eagles fans might be interested to know that teams have done pretty well with that pick over the years.
According to our friends and ESPN Stats & Information (Jason McCallum), it's been 25 years since Philadelphia selected Randall Cunningham with the 37th pick overall. And former Eagles quarterback Ron Jaworski just happened to be a No. 37 pick in 1973 -- for the Rams.
Other notable picks at No. 37 overall:
* Darren Woodson, Cowboys (1992)
* Leonard Marshall, Giants (1983)
* Cris Collinsworth, Bengals (1981)
* Jon Jansen, taterskins (1999)
Heh. If the Eagles draft Tebow, all hell will break loose.
That Bible thumping crybaby?
Would be the single worst thing. Ever.
i would love to see vick and tebow together.
there is no way in hell they would draft Tebow. Come on people, like they are that stupid :paranoid
i thought it was established they would be selecting the gargantuan QB from that small school.
Bob Ford nails it:
Quote
Bob Ford: McNabb trade shows Reid's clout fading
By Bob Ford
Inquirer Sports Columnist
The clock has stopped ticking on Donovan McNabb now, and it has begun to tick on Andy Reid. Very loudly.
Reid gave in and moved past McNabb on Sunday, sending the first draft selection of his long tenure here, the centerpiece of his holiday table, to the Washington taterskins for a second-round pick this month and a third- or fourth-round pick next year.
McNabb's career
2010 NFL Combine
Farewell, Brian Westbrook
On Easter, the team finally acknowledged it had laid an egg.
For McNabb, the ledger shows six Pro Bowls, a record book full of passes and completions and touchdowns and wins. Eleven seasons, all building toward a celebration that never arrived, all an endless stream of taking the same actions and expecting different results.
That was team president Joe Banner's line after the NFC championship loss to Arizona in the 2008 season. So Reid got one more season with McNabb and got one more result that was more of the same. In fact, the ghastly end of the season might have even made it a step back.
For the organization, taking the same actions for another season - sticking with McNabb for a 12th year - had gone beyond being a definition of insanity and become a definition of impossibility.
The balance of power inside the Eagles has swung away from Reid. That's what happens to a head coach, even one as powerful as Reid has been, when you don't win. Banner, with protégé Howie Roseman in place as the general manager, has more sway now, and the next thing you know, Donovan McNabb has been swayed out of town.
Make no mistake. This wasn't the best deal the Eagles could have gotten. Trading McNabb within the division was hardly a good idea, or their first option. This was the best deal they could have gotten that McNabb would agree to. Reid admitted as much when he said he had run the deal past agent Fletcher Smith to get a thumbs-up.
McNabb wasn't going to land in Buffalo or Oakland or some other NFL scrap heap, and the Eagles didn't get as good a deal as a result. They still made it, however, because this had become simply a matter of dumping McNabb after a critical mass within the organization shifted in that direction.
"We had interest in all three," Reid said, saying teams had inquired about obtaining McNabb, Kevin Kolb, and Michael Vick. "We sat back and evaluated. We sat back and listened. It was that simple."
What was simple was that McNabb would be gone. Perhaps that will turn out to be the right move. Perhaps Kolb will be as good as Reid and the rest of the front office hope. Maybe Vick won't become a petulant problem shunted into a reserve role for another season. Maybe all that.
But they don't know. What they knew was that the parking meter had expired on McNabb and the new balance of power in the front office wasn't going to countenance another season of taking the same actions and expecting different results.
The coming season is now a rebuilding year, regardless of what any of them might say.
"I don't see it that way. When the time comes to play, we'll have a good football team," Reid said. "We felt these moves will help us down the road here."
A pattern has formed, though, as the Eagles have moved past Sheldon Brown, Brian Westbrook, Kevin Curtis, Chris Gocong, and others. This is a cleansing, and no harsher detergent could be applied than the one that washed McNabb out of town.
"I'll tell you this: The fifth pick in the second round is not a bad pick," Reid said, putting his spin on what the Eagles got this year for the 11 years and Pro Bowl service of McNabb. "The compensation was right."
Reid fudged on the question of why he insisted McNabb would remain his starter - "he was the starting quarterback until he went elsewhere" - but that's the least of it. Team executives don't always tell the truth. Sometimes they don't want to. Sometimes they can't. With Reid, it was either one or the other.
Only two questions really remain now: Will Kolb be a good quarterback, and will he be good enough for Reid to keep his own job?
"I don't have a crystal ball," Reid said. "I think Kevin needs to go prove [himself] and be Kevin Kolb and not Donovan McNabb. Make his own mark and be his own man, do his own thing. Everything else is a subjective decision on my part. I've got confidence in him to do this."
Of course, he had confidence in McNabb to complete the job, too, and now, finally, we know that was misplaced. Reid got that one era of mistakes and survived. He won't survive another.
The next time the team president speaks ominously about not repeating the past and expecting different results, he won't be talking about the quarterback.
It's actually somewhat scary that Reid may be losing some sway. He sucks, but at least he has a football mind, where as Howie and Banner....well....don't.
I think the Vick angle is definitely going to be something to watch. Part of the reason for him coming to the Eagles after the klink was to be with McNabb. That's concerning. With Kolb trying to establish himself, Vick better not be chirping. I think they still try to deal him.
I still have no idea why Vick is on this team.
And thats now what scares me the most..We're one torn ACL away from 16 games of Mike Vick.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 05, 2010, 09:18:09 AM
Kind of interesting tidbit from Matt Mosley:
QuoteAccording to our friends and ESPN Stats & Information (Jason McCallum), it's been 25 years since Philadelphia selected Randall Cunningham with the 37th pick overall. And former Eagles quarterback Ron Jaworski just happened to be a No. 37 pick in 1973 -- for the Rams.
Van Brocklin was a #37 pick too, but he was taken by the Rams...
Quote from: phattymatty on April 05, 2010, 09:21:55 AM
i would love to see vick and tebow together.
your boy tebow just signed a shoe and apparel deal with Nike paying him just under $300,000 per year, with incentives to add more.
Kolb press conference on PE.com now, says he's gonna holla at Donovan later
Why the hell would the Eagles draft Tebow if they just traded away McNabb for full faith in Kolb? The Eagles have done some weird shtein, but that would be the top of the list if they wasted it on that overrated nutjob.
Quote from: King Cole on April 05, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
Why the hell would the Eagles draft Tebow if they just traded away McNabb for full faith in Kolb? The Eagles have done some weird shtein, but that would be the top of the list if they wasted it on that overrated nutjob.
overrated?
i havent heard one person ever say he was going to be a good nfl qb
There are plenty... But they're all white guys.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 05, 2010, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 05, 2010, 04:05:05 PM
Why the hell would the Eagles draft Tebow if they just traded away McNabb for full faith in Kolb? The Eagles have done some weird shtein, but that would be the top of the list if they wasted it on that overrated nutjob.
overrated?
i havent heard one person ever say he was going to be a good nfl qb
yeah, i haven't heard that either. over hyped would be a better adjective to describe tebow.
this is the one time i'm glad we have a couple of jews running the team though. no way they'll draft a jesus loving bible thumper.
Tim Tebow, better than you think according to these guys. (http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3171_A_tale_of_six_quarterbacks.html)
Posting that automatically makes you a right-wing Jesus freak.
I used to hate Rich Hofmann, and now I always seem to agree with him. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100406_Rich_Hofmann__Why_this_really_isn_t_rebuilding_for_Eagles.html)
QuoteBut with Kolb at quarterback, with whatever other changes they have made, the Eagles are going to compete for the exact same prize that they competed for in McNabb's last several years.
Because Kolb is ready.
And because the rest of this has been overblown.
Yes, yes, Brian Westbrook is gone. And Sheldon Brown is gone. And Kevin Curtis is gone. And Shawn Andrews is gone. And Chris Gocong is gone. And Sean Jones, Darren Howard, Chris Clemons and Jason Babin are gone.
But, well, there are two ways we can deal with this: the size of the headline type or the reality on the field.
The headlines were rightly big.
The impact on the field will be smaller.
Oh farg, Kevin Curtis is gone?
If a tree falls in the forest...
it's all going to hinge on the defense.
Which means that tree will fall with absolutely no resistance.
Seen on ESPN's McNabb crawl today: the average age of the expected starters on offense for the Eagles is 24yrs old.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 10:09:16 PM
Seen on ESPN's McNabb crawl today: the average age of the expected starters on offense for the Eagles is 24yrs old.
That is a good thing.
from an article on PFT
QuoteMeanwhile, another comment from the aftermath of that loss to the Cowboys was right on the money.
"We can't get embarrassed like that again on Saturday night," an unnamed veteran player told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio in advance of the wild-card game against the Cowboys, "or a lot of guys will lose their job."
The Eagles got embarrassed again -- and to date a lot of guys have indeed lost their jobs.
Including McNabb.
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship? especially now that basically every player from the 04 team is now gone. who's left? akers and jackson? anyone else?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship? especially now that basically every player from the 04 team is now gone. who's left? akers and jackson? anyone else?
Mikell and Spadaro
Reid is held accountable in three years if they fail to make the playoffs. As long as he makes the playoffs, Andy has a job for life. Banner, on the other hand, will never be held accountable for anything.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 06, 2010, 11:17:28 PM
Reid is held accountable in three years if they fail to make the playoffs. As long as he makes the playoffs, Andy has a job for life. Banner, on the other hand, will never be held accountable for anything.
The worst part here is that this is true and its what makes me so sick over all of it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 06, 2010, 11:19:25 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 06, 2010, 11:17:28 PM
Reid is held accountable in three years if they fail to make the playoffs. As long as he makes the playoffs, Andy has a job for life. Banner, on the other hand, will never be held accountable for anything.
The worst part here is that this is true and its what makes me so sick over all of it.
Reid and Banner are both here as long as they want to be.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship?
what are yous talking about?.....banner inc has been held accountable for a lack of a title for at least five years now...just because mcnabb is held accountable as well doesnt mean those guys havent been
thats the problem with the red mcnabb thing...people take sides and think it has to be one or the other
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship?
what are yous talking about?.....banner inc has been held accountable for a lack of a title for at least five years now...just because mcnabb is held accountable as well doesnt mean those guys havent been
thats the problem with the red mcnabb thing...people take sides and think it has to be one or the other
you missed the point. it's not about taking one side over the other. the organization decided it could not move forward with mcnabb, right? so they moved him....which is fine. so now that they've got their "new core" of young talent, what happens if this group doesn't win a championship? do they slowly get released/traded or will reid and banner finally have to explain why they can't get this team over the hump?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 07, 2010, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship?
what are yous talking about?.....banner inc has been held accountable for a lack of a title for at least five years now...just because mcnabb is held accountable as well doesnt mean those guys havent been
thats the problem with the red mcnabb thing...people take sides and think it has to be one or the other
you missed the point. it's not about taking one side over the other. the organization decided it could not move forward with mcnabb, right? so they moved him....which is fine. so now that they've got their "new core" of young talent, what happens if this group doesn't win a championship? do they slowly get released/traded or will reid and banner finally have to explain why they can't get this team over the hump?
There have been power shifts that show that they are being held accountable. Reid only got 3 years on his extension, and previous contracts have been 5. Roseman has more say than Heckert had, which seems to have reduced Banner's role.
Reid had a lot of success in the 00's with McNabb and McNabb 2.0, he deserves a chance to rebuild the team, within 3 years. If this team isn't strongly competing in 2 seasons, i think you see a change.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 06, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
ok, so the question i have now is that since a lot of players lost their jobs, at what point are reid and banner going to be held accountable for this team's lack of a championship?
what are yous talking about?.....banner inc has been held accountable for a lack of a title for at least five years now...just because mcnabb is held accountable as well doesnt mean those guys havent been
thats the problem with the red mcnabb thing...people take sides and think it has to be one or the other
How has Banner been held accountable? Any changes in the FO/Coach staff come from a promotion or better offer by another team of sadly in JJ's case death. The staff and FO is pretty much untouchable.
banner will never be held accountable...you have to consider him a part owner
but when i was referring to accountibility i was more talking about the fans as opposed to the organization
however heckert licht and donovan
three 100% andy guys
are all gone
if that isnt telling reid something then i dont know what is
Shared, not only for the relatively non-interesting and expected news of Cole signing his tender, but also for the hilarity of the grammar and proofreading foibles:
QuoteRFA OL Cole Signed To One-Year Contract
Offensive lineman Nick Cole has signed a one-year deal with the Eagles, accepting his restricted free agent tender at the second-round level.
Cole, 25, is one of two offensive linemen, along with Winston Justice, who started all 16 games for the Eagles in 2009. He started six games at left guard and nine games at left guard before taking over as the starting center when Jamaal Jackson was lost for the season with a torn ACL.
With Jackson working to rehab from his injury, Cole could open the 2010 season as the starting center. One of the most versatile linemen on the team, Cole, 6-foot-0, 350 pounds, joined the Eagles as a rookie free agent following the 2006 draft. He's seen action in every game in his four-year career, appearing in 64 regular season contests (22 starts) and six playoff games (four starts). A versatile and tough offensive lineman, the 25-year-old Cole started in every game in 2009 at three different positions (nine at right guard, six at left guard, and two at center).
A three-year starter at New Mexico State, Cole notched a school-record 40 straight starts at both guard and tackle. The Lawton, OK, native attended Eisenhower High School, where he earned all-state honors at left guard as a senior.
After Cole's signing, offensive lineman Max Jean-Gilles and punter Sav Rocca are the only restricted free agents yet to sign their tender offer.
-- Posted by Bo Wulf, 12:24 p.m., April 7
so todd's pen name is bo wulf?
he meant Beowulf. But as per the usual, he spelled it wrong.
Scott Beowulf?
OMG, Palin is in a Helicopter
A ROFLcopter?
(http://media.philly.com/images/040610-McNabb-Presser-001.jpg)(http://timstvshowcase.com/fmatter1.jpg)
are you saying that all fake black people look alike? that's racist!
Reginald VelJohnson is the most underappreciated actor of our lifetime, just like McNabb is the most underappreciated QB.
There we no bad actors in Die Hard.
Hans....bubby!
The day he stops playing he is going to balloon up past Carl Winslow
hes already close
and moves about as fast as carl winslow did in his crime fighting prime.
don't know if this was posted elsewhere but :
QuoteWe heard from Deion Sanders on Thursday for the first time since the trade of Donovan McNabb. Deion gets straight to the point, and here's what he had to say: "First of all, I gathered myself, and sat down," Sanders said. "Because I couldn't believe that this was the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life, except for that Herschel Walker shebacle many years ago."
Yes, Deion officially introduced the word "shebacle" to the NFL Network vernacular, to the amusement of network producers.
^-^
It would have been so great if he succeeded in that suicide attempt a few years back.
Sheldon was on WIP this morning and said there were chemistry issues in the locker room this past season that had nothing to do with Donovan
donovan doesnt cause locker room issues he just doesnt lead
assante on the other hand....
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 09, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
Sheldon was on WIP this morning and said there were chemistry issues in the locker room this past season that had nothing to do with Donovan
I wonder if it had anything to do with him.
I'm thinking they couldn't get their paper maché volcano to work on science day.
Quote from: reese125 on April 09, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 09, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
Sheldon was on WIP this morning and said there were chemistry issues in the locker room this past season that had nothing to do with Donovan
I wonder if it had anything to do with him.
Why? because he came to work every day and didn't hold out? ANd played his ass off hurt? What a terrible guy.
Let it go.
i wonder what deion thinks about sheldon
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 09, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 09, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 09, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
Sheldon was on WIP this morning and said there were chemistry issues in the locker room this past season that had nothing to do with Donovan
I wonder if it had anything to do with him.
Why? because he came to work every day and didn't hold out? ANd played his ass off hurt? What a terrible guy.
Yeah but he did whine about his contract, that he signed.
Arguing over which Halloween costume Sheldon should wear onto the field?
QuoteSheldon Brown suggests Eagles didn't buy in to Sean McDermott's coaching
Posted by Mike Florio on April 10, 2010 1:49 PM ET
For ten years, Jim Johson coordinated the defense in Philadelphia. Last year, as Johnson battled cancer, McDermott assumed the responsibilities.
Though the Eagles qualified for the playoffs, a former member of the starting defense recently said that he believes that players did not buy in to McDermott's approach.
"I just think, we as a defense in Philadelphia, you just have to believe in what coach McDermott preaches and follow the plan," cornerback Sheldon Brown told Howard Eskin and Ike Reese of WIP radio in Philly this week. "You know, sometimes I look back at last year, the season, I feel that we had some players that really was questioning some of the things that were being done. And [we] never had that situation since I've been there. And first and foremost, you have to believe in the system, believe in the plan, or you lose before you even go out there. And if the guys can remember to do that, stick together, they'll be fine."
Sheil Kapadia of philly.com points out that Brown, who recently was traded to Cleveland, could have been referring to cornerback Asante Samuel, who apparently was unwilling to play press coverage in back-to-back losses to the Cowboys.
Brown had been unhappy before he was dealt, so it's possible that his discontent tainted his view of the team in 2010. Still, it's the first time that anyone has suggested that players in Philly possibly weren't fully supporting the coaching they were receiving -- and that could be one of the reasons why Brown, linebacker Chris Gocong, and defensive end Chris Clemons are now gone. It also could be one of the reasons why Samuel at one point was believed to be on the trading block.
what i tell you about assante
Quote
Sharper Image For Eagles Defense?
April 10, 2010 | Last Updated: 4/10/10 4:39 PM ET | Comments (23)
NFL.com's Frank Tadych spoke with free agent safety Darren Sharper following a live chat with fans and while "throwing out an educated guess" he put the Eagles as one of the potential landing spots for the five-time Pro Bowl selection.
Sharper had nine interceptions last season for the Super Bowl-champion New Orleans Saints, which was tied with cornerback Asante Samuel for tops in the NFL.
The 34-year-old Sharper played last season on a one-year deal. He underwent a procedure on his left knee earlier this off-season. According to Tadych, Sharper would like to play free safety for a "playoff-caliber team."
The Eagles signed Marlin Jackson from the Colts in free agency. Jackson is recovering from an ACL injury, but if the rehab process continues to go well he is expected to start at free safety for the Eagles in 2010. Jackson can also play cornerback if another veteran or draft pick is acquired. The Eagles also have last year's opening day starter in Macho Harris and Quintin Demps, who is entering his third season.
This was posted on the main site so take it fwiw. I like to randomly throw crap out to start conversation, which is what I'm doing with this. Personally I wouldn't mind Sharper on a 1 year deal, he's better than what they have and it would allow them to draft a guy and not immediately throw him to the wolves.
sounds like sharper and his agent are doing a sell job because there isnt much of a market for him
100% YES on Sharper. The guy was and still is a playmaker and an absolute warrior. No reason not to bring him in and see if the knee procedure worked - who knows, maybe he's got a good two years left and then the whole macho/demps mess can go away.
I said it a few weeks back but I also think they should bring Mawae in...them not doing it makes me think they draft Maurkice.
Couple things...
I would be in favor of Sharper. But don't read too much into it as a sell job. He had knee surgery and is finally healthy enough to put himself on the market and make visits.
Mawae...I wouldn't doubt if his role as NFLPA head player rep is affecting his ability to find a job right now.
the signing of Sharper, especially with the surgery, would be a complete slap in the face to the whole Dawkins scenerio.
Quote from: reese125 on April 11, 2010, 08:03:05 PM
the signing of Sharper, especially with the surgery, would be a complete slap in the face to the whole Dawkins scenerio.
If the Dawkins thing was a mistake on the part of the Eagles, this is the closest they can come to undoing that mistake. It wouldn't be a slap in the face as much as it would be admitting that they farged up.
Which is why it won't happen.
Signing Sharper would be idiotic. The team needs to get better. It doesn't need a one year band aid.
He's better than what they have back there now, and honestly its not even debatable. Unless they have plans to draft a safety in Round 1, I don't know how you don't sign him.
But back to Mawae...good point Jay; I hadn't thought about that. Still though, he's another guy who has been productive everywhere he has been, been a team leader and just like Sharper, the dude is a warrior. With Jackson still not fully recovered from the injury by the time camp breaks, unless they take Pouncey in Round 1, I don't see how they can't bring him in.
So in summary, if they plan on drafting Earl Thomas, sign Mawae. If they plan on drafting Pouncey, then sign Sharper. It's that simple.
why would they bring in a 30+ year old free agent? this team isn't in win-now mode anyway. those signings would go against what they did all off-season.
To be fair they've been getting rid of older players who THEY think aren't as good as what they have or what they're going to get in the draft or via trade. Since Sharper is much better than anyone they have at either safety position, it's not a stretch to think they'd pick him up.
Plus there's the mentor aspect if they decided to go with Mays in the first round. He could do worse than have a guy like Darren Sharper showing him the ropes.
Quote from: Rome on April 12, 2010, 10:33:05 AM
Plus there's the mentor aspect if they decided to go with Mays in the first round. He could do worse than have a guy like Darren Sharper Brian Dawkins showing him the ropes.
good point
This conversation is bringing back my disgust for the Dawkins thing yet again.
Mission accomplished, Sunny.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/donovan-mcnabb-id-like-to-thank-the-ungrateful-ove,17235/
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/McNabb_on_PTI.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/McNabb_on_PTI.html)
lol @ this guy
hes too much
I saw it in the gym.
Makes me angry to see DONOVAN MCNABB - taterskinS QB
shteinbag fans get to cheer for my favorite player.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/gladsadmad/Mctaterskincopy4.png)
Die.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2010, 09:16:17 PM
I saw it in the gym.
Makes me angry to see DONOVAN MCNABB - taterskinS QB
shteinbag fans get to cheer for my favorite player.
Trotter is a taterskin again?
Hot damn.
I hope they re-sign him.
I hope he re-signs with the taterskins too.
*** High five! ***
If it's any consolation Phreak, McNabb is due for one of those seasons when he spends most of the season injured.
Get over it man, this is one of the most exciting times for the Eagles in years. All this change in the air, and we don't know all of the problems with Kolb yet, so we can project all kinds of hopes on him. It's like when Obama first got elected. Get pumped up.
there is no doubt phreak still thinks its 2004
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2010, 10:04:29 PM
If it's any consolation Phreak, McNabb is due for one of those seasons when he spends most of the season injured.
Get over it man, this is one of the most exciting times for the Eagles in years. All this change in the air, and we don't know all of the problems with Kolb yet, so we can project all kinds of hopes on him. It's like when Obama first got elected. Get pumped up.
The problem is Kolb has to be scary good (on a manning-brady-brees level) to win a SB in this offense.
As long as Reid is here or the play calling changes, and/or the Eagles get a dominating defense...nothing's really gonna change.
Quote from: Munson on April 14, 2010, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2010, 10:04:29 PM
If it's any consolation Phreak, McNabb is due for one of those seasons when he spends most of the season injured.
Get over it man, this is one of the most exciting times for the Eagles in years. All this change in the air, and we don't know all of the problems with Kolb yet, so we can project all kinds of hopes on him. It's like when Obama first got elected. Get pumped up.
The problem is Kolb has to be scary good (on a manning-brady-brees level) to win a SB in this offense.
As long as Reid is here or the play calling changes, and/or the Eagles get a dominating defense...nothing's really gonna change.
i. am. a. robot.
i. come. from. planet. white. trash.
i. am. programmed. to. repeat. same. things. over. and. over. and. over. and. over.
if
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meep meep needer nodder
lol
Ha. That is by far the funniest post in the history of IGY.
i'm procuring some granite for a statue im building to commemorate this day
Call it the Hyper Bowl.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2010, 10:04:29 PM
If it's any consolation Phreak, McNabb is due for one of those seasons when he spends most of the season injured. Get over it man, this is one of the most exciting times for the Eagles in years. All this change in the air, and we don't know all of the problems with Kolb yet, so we can project all kinds of hopes on him. It's like when Obama first got elected. Get pumped up.
Agreed 100%. I can't remember ever being this excited for the start of the season.
meep meep needer nodder
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 14, 2010, 09:12:27 AM
i'm procuring some granite for a statue im building to commemorate this day
Replace the Rocky statue. IGY is the new Philly.
Get a hold of yourself people. He'll piss you off tomorrow.
P.S. - That was some funny shtein though IGY's
question for you jay -
when trent cole plasters mcnabb repeatedly in the first meeting will you cheer ?
Quote from: rjs246 on April 14, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Ha. That is by far the funniest post in the history of IGY.
It should be. I wrote it for him.
Douche.
Quote from: smeags on April 14, 2010, 12:29:29 PM
question for you jay -
when trent cole plasters mcnabb repeatedly in the first meeting will you cheer ?
I just shtein and came at the same time after reading this. I SHAMED
Huh??? I think if I ever met you mussa, I'd be a little weirded out.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 14, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Ha. That is by far the funniest post in the history of IGY.
It's the needer nodder that puts it over the top.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2010, 07:09:54 AM
Quote from: Munson on April 14, 2010, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 13, 2010, 10:04:29 PM
If it's any consolation Phreak, McNabb is due for one of those seasons when he spends most of the season injured.
Get over it man, this is one of the most exciting times for the Eagles in years. All this change in the air, and we don't know all of the problems with Kolb yet, so we can project all kinds of hopes on him. It's like when Obama first got elected. Get pumped up.
The problem is Kolb has to be scary good (on a manning-brady-brees level) to win a SB in this offense.
As long as Reid is here or the play calling changes, and/or the Eagles get a dominating defense...nothing's really gonna change.
i. am. a. robot.
i. come. from. planet. white. trash.
i. am. programmed. to. repeat. same. things. over. and. over. and. over. and. over.
if
i
could
only
reason
and
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meep meep needer nodder
I'll repeat it over and over and over and over and over again because it's the truth.
I meant that sexually.
Quote from: smeags on April 14, 2010, 12:29:29 PM
question for you jay -
when trent cole plasters mcnabb repeatedly in the first meeting will you cheer ?
Of course. Because I am an Eagles fan and as much as I love McNabb, he's a bitch ass taterskin. And I don't want that fan base celebrating anything.
the first time he does one of his gay dances in burgundy and gold you will forget the past 11 years and want to slit his throat like we do now.
max jean signed to 1 year deal
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 15, 2010, 01:15:49 PM
max jean signed to 1 year deal
Then he immediately went to IHOP
good
(http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20090914/123978.gif)
That was god awful
Only remotely funny thing about that animation is that LSUfreek prominently put his signature on the bottom. I guess he wants full credit for that masterwork.
I was thinking about the roster this morning and having a tough time remembering all the moves so far, so I made a list of notable transactions. I hardly care about the NFL at all, so it goes without saying that I don't give a damn about camp fodder signings and the like.
Looking at this list gives me a nice summary of where the team is going.
Corrections welcome.
FAs Retained
Avant, Jason WR
Cole, Nick G
Gaither, Omar MLB
Gocong, Chris OLB
Hobbs, Ellis DB
Jean-Gilles, Max G
Jordan, Akeem OLB
Weaver, Leonard FB
FAs Added
Jackson, Marlin CB
Baskett, Hank WR
Bell, Mike RB*
Players Added via Trade
Hall, Alex LB
Tapp, Darryl DE
FAs Released and Signed Elsewhere
Babin, Jason DE
Jones, Sean FS
Witherspoon, Will MLB
FAs Released / Unemployed
Andrews, Shawn G
Curtis, Kevin WR
Howard, Darren DE
Rocca, Sav P
Smith, Alex TE
Trotter, Jeremiah MLB
Westbrook, Brian RB
White, Tracy LB
Players Released via Trade
Brown, Sheldon CB
Gocong, Chris LB
Clemons, Chris LB
McNabb, Donovan QB
* Is it true that Bell is the only player in the entire league this offseason to sign an offer sheet with a new team and be let go by his original team?
I'm all for improving the roster but that's an incredible number of players to release during a single offseason.
According to what Roseman said yesterday they currently have 57 players on the roster and they need to get to 80 before training camp starts. Considering they only have 12 draft picks and are probably going to trade a few of those, that's a shteinload of street free agents they're going to add.
And you forgot Darryl Tapp.
Not only did I forget him, but had to look up who was traded away for him because I forgot Clemons even existed.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 17, 2010, 08:15:09 AM
* Is it true that Bell is the only player in the entire league this offseason to sign an offer sheet with a new team and be let go by his original team?
Yup. (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/11574/rfa-ship-never-sailed)
QuoteJust saw the big homie Az Hakim when I'm walkn out the club. he was about to leave and couldn't get in. but I told my man bryan to handle it
PIMP
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Mikell: Eagles' moves have been for the better
By: REUBEN FRANK Burlington County Times
Quintin Mikell saw it happening right in front of his eyes, and there wasn't a thing he could do to stop it.
His teammates, his friends, were being pulled in two directions last fall, and that meant the Eagles were being pulled in two different directions. And that helps explain why a football season that had so much promise fell to pieces at the end of the year.
Mikell, the Pro Bowl safety and now the team's senior position player, said the dramatic roster changes the Eagles have made this offseason were necessary to rid the team of a negative element that had infiltrated the locker room.
"There were some things I had never seen before since I'd been here," Mikell said after a recent workout at the NovaCare Complex. "There were guys who were more concerned with their own individual accomplishments than going out and playing as a unit.
"When we lost, instead of looking at themselves and asking what they could have done better, there were some guys who were questioning the coaches and the game plan. But you can't bring that negativity to the team, especially when you have a young locker room like we have. Because then the young guys hear it and it spreads, and you can't have that and be successful."
The Eagles won 11 games last year but ranked 19th in points allowed, their second-worst ranking in the last 10 years. The last five games of the season, they gave up 136 points - more than 27 per game.
It was a year of enormous transition. Legendary Brian Dawkins left for the Broncos. Revered defensive coordinator Jim Johnson died just before the season began after a courageous battle with cancer. And then the team's best linebacker, Stewart Bradley, suffered a season-ending knee injury a few weeks before the season began.
Despite some very good performances - the Eagles held the Panthers to three points in the opener and won six straight games late in the season - the defense struggled. Missed tackles, blown coverages, dropped interceptions and long gaps without pass pressure ultimately doomed the Eagles, who lost two season-ending games to the Cowboys by a combined score of 58-14.
"I don't know what happened," Mikell said. "We just hit a wall."
But in retrospect, maybe it shouldn't be that surprising that things fell apart. They were heading that way all year.
"There was just a lot of negativity," Mikell said. "A lot of people weren't putting the team first. Everybody's guilty of it at some point - I've been guilty of it here and there. But when it's all the time, then it's a problem. We've never had that before, since I've been here. We've never been a selfish team, where guys were more worried about what they did individually than how we did as a team. But we had guys who were more concerned about how the game plan affected them. It was, 'How am I going to get my sacks if we're doing this,' instead of, 'Hey, let's go out and do whatever it takes to win the game.' "
Mikell wouldn't mention any specific teammates but said the players he feels put themselves ahead of the team are no longer here.
The defensive players who were a big part of last year's rotation who are no longer with the team are defensive ends Chris Clemons, Darren Howard and Jason Babin; linebacker Chris Gocong; and defensive backs Sean Jones and Sheldon Brown. From context, it's clear he wasn't talking about Gocong or Brown.
"You can't let your personal situation affect the team," Mikell said. "We've always been a no-name defense. We've been Dawk - and he's been our superstar - and then a bunch of guys nobody's really heard of. It's never been about individual accomplishments around here. Guys go out and smash heads and do whatever it takes to win.
"Now, it was, 'Well, we had to keep going out there (because the offense wasn't getting first downs),' or, 'They had great field position,' or whatever. I don't care if we have to go out there 20 million times, let's go out there 20 million times and stop the other team."
Mikell said some of the departed veterans openly questioned first-year defensive coordinator Sean McDermott, who was just 35 years old when he took over for Johnson in July.
"Sean's a good coach, but as soon as things started going wrong, people started doubting him and second guessing him," Mikell said. "If we had a bad game, it was like, 'Why did he make that call? I could have gotten a sack if he made a different call.' Look at yourself. What can you do to get better?"
Mikell, who made the roster as an undrafted free agent in 2003, is one of only three members of the 2004 Super Bowl Eagles still on the roster.
That kind of dramatic turnover is unusual, but Mikell said, considering everything, turnover was necessary.
"We're really close," he said. "We lost some guys - losing Sheldon and Chris (Gocong) is going to be tough - but when it comes down to it, I believe in our coaching staff and I believe in the way they've done things around here. They'll bring in guys who can play ball. They always have."
"It's an opportunity for the young guys to show what they can do. They just have to understand that it's not enough to just say you're good enough, you have to make the commitment to be good enough. Not just now during (offseason) workouts but coming in early during the season and watching film with me, staying late and watching film. Don't just talk about it, do it.
"Guys like Sheldon and Dawk left a legacy, and I guess I'm the last link to those guys and Troy (Vincent) and guys like that. I learned from those guys, and now it's up to me to teach the young guys how to be professionals on and off the field.
"Those guys have to learn. If we're going to get back to the Super Bowl, they have to. They don't have a choice. It's their time now."
he keeps mentioning "sacks", so Im assuming he was talking a lot about Howard, because I doubt it was Clemons (or maybe it was as well)...but did Howard really think he was that good he could blame the system?
Nice article.
Filed to ESPN: Three way trade -- Eagles get LB Ernie Sims, Lions get TE Tony Scheffler, Broncos get undisclosed draft pick
good stuff...love ernie sims
He's a bump up from what they had... but i can't see how an ex lion can help with anything. Ever.
That said, i know next to nothing about this guys except it's a decent football name. (edit) since it's only a 5th round pick.. it's a pretty solid gamble.
pick is a 5th per eagles website. if true that's a steal
QuoteEagles Acquire LB Sims From Lions
The Eagles announced today that they have acquired starting weakside linebacker Ernie Sims from the Detroit Lions through a rare three-team deal that also included the Denver Broncos.
The Eagles sent a fifth-round draft pick in 2010 (137th overall) to the Broncos. The Broncos gave tight end Tony Scheffler and a seventh-round pick in 2010 (220th overall) to the Lions, who sent Sims to the Eagles.
In essence, it's a fifth-round pick for a proven starting linebacker.
"Ernie Sims is an impact player at the linebacker position," said head coach Andy Reid. "He brings a lot of energy to our already energized defense. We are looking forward to adding him to our team."
"We are excited to acquire Ernie Sims," said general manager Howie Roseman. "He plays fast, he's aggressive and his style is a great fit for our defensive scheme. He is a leader who was a team captain for the Lions and we are eager to see what he can do in our defense."
This marks the fifth trade of the 2010 off-season for the Eagles and the third for a veteran defensive player (defensive end Darryl Tapp, linebacker Alex Hall). The Eagles now own 10 picks in the upcoming draft - 1st round (24th overall), 2nd round (37, 55), 3rd round (70, 87), 4th round (105, 121), 6th round (200) and 7th round (243, 244).
Sims (6-0, 230) was originally a first-round choice (ninth overall) of the Lions in 2006 and has since played in 59 games (56 starts) for Detroit, totaling 505 tackles, 2.5 sacks, six forced fumbles and one interception. The 25-year-old linebacker played in 11 games (eight starts) in 2009, and compiled 49 tackles and one forced fumble.
Now in his fifth season out of Florida State, Sims was immediately plugged into the Lions starting lineup as a rookie and earned Pro Football Weekly all-rookie honors in 2006 after starting all 16 games and leading the team with 144 tackles. He was named the team's defensive captain for the 2007 and 2008 seasons, starting all 32 games and again pacing the team with 312 tackles during that span.
A native of Tallahassee, Fla., Sims' father, Ernie Jr., played running back at Florida State from 1977-81, and his mother, Alice Bennett, was an All-America sprinter on the Seminole track team from 1980-83.
yeah if its a 5th thats a great trade
he hasnt been the playmaker i thought hed be in the pros be but its still a nice upgrade over what they have and at 25 years old still has upside
A young talented LB? Be still my beating heart. I mean, Sims isn't exactly a world beater, but a 25 year old team captain at a position of need for a 5th rounder is a goddamned steal.
The Gambler is at it again!
quinten mikell is the current longest tenured player on defense? is it just me, or have the eagles cleaned house a little more than it actually seemed?
longest tenured overall
cole is longest tenured draft pick
Baltimore Sun says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Kelley Washington
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 19, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Baltimore Sun says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Kelley Washington
Isn't he basically Hank Baskett?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 19, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 19, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Baltimore Sun says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Kelley Washington
Isn't he basically Hank Baskett?
Minus Kendra
Plus injury issues
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 19, 2010, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 19, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 19, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Baltimore Sun says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Kelley Washington
Isn't he basically Hank Baskett?
Minus Kendra
Plus injury issues
So he's an upgrade then?
Quote from: SunMo on April 19, 2010, 08:21:14 PM
longest tenured overall
akers has been around since 99 i think.
Kickers arent football players right? Is that why they're not including him? He was just a FA after being released twice. Guess he Doesn't count
Eagles re-signed Rocca to a 1 year deal
I suppose there's nothing better out there? Anyone here know anything about FA punters?
They have another one on the roster already to compete with him; Durant Brooks, I believe
Evidently, Salpal says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Osi..
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
Evidently, Salpal says the Eagles are 1 of 4 teams interested in Osi..
How old is he now? Is he any good anymore?
The Eagles shed two threes to trade up for a DE project AND they're intersted in Osi Umenyiora?
wtf is going on
Pretty sure that interest was a head fake.
Oh, I see. That was 9:30 p.m. last night.
I'm so full of hate and rage, I cannot think straight. PG, save me!!
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 09:09:48 AM
Pretty sure that interest was a head fake.
Apparently the Giants were going to take Graham with #15
I was just coming to post that SD
Like I said last night, they definitely kicked off a run on DE's. They had good reasons to want JPP (freakish athletic ability, endless potential, could rotate in behind Tapp and Parker) and Morgan (hometown kid, bigger and more protypical), but they really keyed on Graham.
So, kudos to Roseman and Reid for getting the guy they wanted. Now, let's find out if he can play as well as he can grow a beard.
They were supposed to get the guy I wanted.
The last time the Eagles "stole" a DE from the Giants was Jeromey Rome McDougle
oh yes, so this makes him McDougle!
Just like Dio said!
I never said it did. I'm just pointing out that was the last draft pick, coincidentally a DE, that the Eagles jacked from the iceholes up the turnpike.
I like the pick; pipe down.
lol
Jay is cruisin for a bruisin. PG is totally going to punch him in the shin, or possibly the lower part of the knee!
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
Jay is cruisin for a bruisin. PG is totally going to punch him in the shin, or possibly the lower part of the knee!
Perhaps a Rocky styled montage where she's running down the street, then working over his shins in a meat locker, then using his nads for a speed bag.
ew.
Yeah, seriously... I thought the only guy whose beanbag we openly discussed here was rjs.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
The Eagles shed two threes to trade up for a DE project AND they're intersted in Osi Umenyiora?
wtf is going on
This dude is far from a project, JPP is but he could end up being the best DE in the draft with his athleticism alone.
I have unanswered questions about his bubble. I'm glad the Eagles passed on him.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
Jay is cruisin for a bruisin. PG is totally going to punch him in the shin, or possibly the lower part of the knee!
Perhaps a Rocky styled montage where she's running down the street, then working over his shins in a meat locker, then using his nads for a speed bag.
That just made my day :-D
:-D
Wait, what?
My beanbag as a speedbag?!
Getting stronger. Won't be long now.
Before I shut down the computer, you should all know that Reid just said that all the draft picks will have a chance to get in there and compete.
Injury update for first mini-camp:
Stewart Bradley - IN
Cornelius Ingram - IN
Ellis Hobbs - limited
Marlin Jackson - limited
Jamaal Jackson - OUT
Victor Abiamiri - OUT
Did Abiamiri have offseason surgery or did he just randomly injure himself again?
He had knee surgery. It's not ACL-related, but there's some mystery as to what it WAS related to.
Anyway, there's not much mystery that his odds of making the team are greatly diminished at this point.
Killa Cole - the truth
Graham - lock
Tapp - all but lock
Parker - could be cut due to age but still a very nice 4th/5th option
Abiamiri - has never shown jack shtein and is injured
Te'O - 3rd round pick almost has to make it or they look foolish - definite candidate for a phantom injury sending him to IR though
Sapp - talented guy, also a candidate for an IR trip to protect him from being nabbed off the practice squad
Abiamiri is the last likely of the above 7 guys to make the team, I'd think.
Cornelius Ingram - IN
i have a HOF boner right now
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In addition to Jackson, defensive end Victor Abiamiri will not be ready for a forthcoming minicamp, Reid said. Abiamiri had off-season arthroscopic knee surgery.
Reid said that the team will evaluate linebacker Stewart Bradley, who missed last season with a torn ACL, but that he should be able to participate in practices.
Ellis Hobbs suffered a season-ending neck injury in November and the Eagles will take it "real slow" with the cornerback, according to Reid.
Tight end Cornelius Ingram and defensive back Marlin Jackson, both also coming off ACL tears, will probably be limited, Reid said.
Any truth to the rumor Faneca might come to Philly? Just reading threads but I heard this yesterday on the radio that it was being discussed?
What's his deal? UFA?
i cant believe he isnt a taterskin yet
so no then?
Faneca's a ufa
33 year old former all pro guard that's there for the taking, makes sense meaning it won't happen.
sidenote: Faneca has epsilepsy, just thought that was interesting.
ive heard nothing about him being an eagle
there were/are rumors?
seems to me that would skew the average age of the roster way high
he was cut yesterday after the jets drafted that beast from umass. wouldnt be a bad get at all.
christina lurie will do a spread in hustler before those cheap fargs sign someone like faneca.
she should do a spread in that eyp quarterly magazine.
Ray Diddy said though Faneca would make sense, they arent interested
of course it would make sense.
peters, faneca, mcglynn/cole/jackson, herremans, justice = good
can faneca snap a ball cause thats the only place they need him
Pictoral depth chart - yay! (http://www.philly.com/philly/gallery/An_Early_Eagles_Depth_Chart.html?view=graphic)
I had no idea AQ Shipley was on the roster
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2010, 09:57:39 AM
Pectoral depth chart - yay! (http://gatorcountry.com/pagetwo/swampie/files/2009/04/cornelius-ingram-pro-workout.jpg)
Wrong, there is no photo of Cornelius Ingram's dented chest.
The Eagles definitely couldn't use this guy. Not at all! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5143344)
I still think he gets a call once he gets another teams offer. They're just being cheap and want to see what the market is for a 39yearold Center
More Samoans!
Quote from: Don Ho on April 28, 2010, 07:02:27 PM
More Samoans!
STOP. He's not a hot asian chick, get ahold of yourself
You always ruin it for me.
sorry, but i know your weakness now
Hot Asian chicks is a secret weakness?
Hawaiian Kryptonite.
Yellow Kryptonite, obviously.
4:45 press conference....Kolb gets a 1-yr extension with about $12.5M guaranteed
yay team.
Simmer down. This is the best for everyone with the status of the CBA. I think it has something to do with him not being able to get any more than a 30% pay increase for next season. Anyway, he's your quarterback and could skin you clean with a bowie knife.
i could care less since theres no cap but thats insane money for him....im actually floored
thinly veiled 5 shot
QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles have given quarterback Kevin Kolb another vote of confidence, extending his contract by one year, the team announced Thursday.
The deal is worth $12.25 million, all of it guaranteed, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Kolb, who became the Eagles' starting QB when Donovan McNabb was traded to the Washington taterskins, was previously under contract through the 2010 season. He was expected to attend a news conference announcing the signing at 4:45 p.m. ET at the team's training facility.
"We're happy to have Kevin under contract for the next two seasons," coach Andy Reid said in a prepared statement. "When given the chance, Kevin has proven to have good command of this offense and we're looking forward to having him operate as the No. 1 quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles."
Not that I give a shtein because at this point in the game there's no cap and if there were the birds would be about $70 million under, but that's a shteinload of money for a guy that has only started two games in his career.
Maybe it's a financial apology.
No, every move they make that has anything to do with a qb for the next three years will be a dig at McNabb.
How many ways can you say, up yours no. 5?
twitter updates from minicamp:
-- Cole and McGlynn are switching on/off at first team center
-- Fokou/Bradley/Sims are the first team LBs
-- Clayton/Mays/Jordan are the second team LBs
-- Tapp and Graham are the second team DEs (Parker is still the first team LDE)
-- Hanson is opposite Samuel on the first team with Hobbs and Jackson out
-- Asante yelled out "New management! New leadership! Let's win it all!"
Please put the twitter accounts for all the Eagles you follow in one place. For Dio.
I'm not into Twitter, but I'll check some of the pages out once in a while....
http://twitter.com/LesBowen
http://twitter.com/caplannfl (Adam Caplan)
http://twitter.com/movingthechains (Sheil Kapadia)
http://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing
http://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane
http://twitter.com/mortreport (Chris Mortensen)
http://twitter.com/geoffmosher
http://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter
http://twitter.com/BrianSeltzer
http://twitter.com/StewBradley
http://twitter.com/BrentCelek
http://twitter.com/Jamar22Chaney
http://twitter.com/k4coleman
http://twitter.com/MachoHarris
http://twitter.com/DeSeanJackson10
http://twitter.com/mjg62
http://twitter.com/cutondime (Shady)
http://twitter.com/jeffowens95
http://twitter.com/SAPP7
http://twitter.com/dtapp91
http://twitter.com/LeonardWeaver
Random tweets not worthy of a new thread?
MJG got lap band surgery so he could weigh less than Andy
Leonard Weaver:
@AsantesDreads really!
i'm not into twitter but here are 1000 twitter pages that i know
dont you dare question or make fun of easy. not your job.
like hunger, homelessness, and the environment...it's the World's job
classic easy post today was informing us that the eagles signed the DT that apparently has already made the team and in parenthesis he puts (6th or 7th round grade)
he trys his best not to do it but every once in a while the spardaro in him gets let out
the guy won't sniff the 2nd preseason game....was just saying some people had him as a potential pick, not an immediate UDFA like Daryll Clark
and yeah I don't have a Twitter account and I don't follow anyone. There's a list on EMB
and I guess no one cares about MJGtits weighing 400 lbs by the Dallas playoff game
The fact that the Spuds crew is talking more about Mike McGlynn than MJG makes me believe he may have fallen out of favor a bit.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 30, 2010, 04:02:20 PM
The fact that the Spuds crew is talking more about Mike McGlynn than MJG makes me believe he may have fallen out of favor a bit.
didn't they just re-sign him?
Quote*Fourth-round rookie quarterback Mike Kafka inherited the first locker on the left after you enter the room, formerly belonging to some guy from Syracuse. Kafka did not know this until a reporter told him; he vowed to check through all the drawers and cubbyholes, in case Donovan McNabb left behind anything valuable.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 30, 2010, 05:18:23 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 30, 2010, 04:02:20 PM
The fact that the Spuds crew is talking more about Mike McGlynn than MJG makes me believe he may have fallen out of favor a bit.
didn't they just re-sign him?
He signed his one-year tender offer as a RFA.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 30, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
Leonard Weaver:
@AsantesDreads really!
Asante is a funny mother effer.
Quote@Jamar22Chaney Welcome to Philly! Have a good nights rest. The key to Andy Reid's heart is cheese steaks and milky ways
QuoteAbiamiri's season in jeopardy
Defensive end Victor Abiamiri had microfracture knee surgery and isn't expected to return to running until six months after surgery. The oft-injured Eagle underwent the operation on Feb. 9, according to Eagles trainer Rick Burkhalter.
That means, best case scenario, Abiamiri, 24, would resume running just after training camp in August. This latest setback makes it unlikely that Abiamiri will be back in time for the season opener. His season, and possibly his career, could be in jeopardy.
"It's a big injury," Burkhalter said. "It's knocked some guys out of playing, but plenty of people have come back and played, too. He's got youth on his side."
Dr. James Andrews performed the surgery. Originially, Abiamiri was to have his knee scoped, but Andrews saw that the injury was worse than thought.
"I've been doing what they've been telling me to do," Abiamiri said. "It's a tough process to go through, but all you can do is take it day to day."
The injury stems from a shot to the knee that he took in the Oakland game last season. He missed the next three games, but did return for the rest of the season.
Abiamiri has yet to play a full season since the Eagles selected him in the second round of the 2007 draft. In 2008, he missed the first five games of the season due to a dislocated wrist. He then sat out the final game of the season with a Lisfrance foot sprain. He also missed most of last year's training camp with a back injury.
"I know that I've been hurt a lot since I've been here," Abiamiri said. "When I got hurt during the season, I was like, 'I'm just going to play through it.' It was bothering me through the season, but I figured I'd get it fixed at the end of the season. And I did. It's just that the amount of the time it takes for it to heal up is pretty extensive."
[/Eagles Career]
The next time this team drafts a ND defensive player will be too soon.
abiamiri stinks anyway...i will miss the days of the fanbase yearning for him to be healthy because if he was hed be a player...
even tho they never saw him make a play in their life
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 30, 2010, 08:55:24 PM
McDougle stinks anyway...i will miss the days of the fanbase yearning for him to be healthy because if he was hed be a player...
[/time machine]
ha...pretty much
abiamiri had more of an underground following it seems to me
Abiamiri and Laws: went to school together, roomed together, stole money from the Eagles together, and will soon be bussing tables together.
Update: Leonard Weaver is mocking how wide Darryl Tapp's back is, and Tapp retorts that he has never seen a Pro Bowl player with arms as short as Weave. Also, Weaver is loving the pickup of Ernie Sims, and the battle between Celek and Bradley for more "tweeps" continues.
I think we could talk Bradley into an "Ask Stewart Bradley" section.
i say keep all eagle tweets on the no hippo board...or their own thread
Fair enough. Maybe G_F can do some fancy merge/split/whatever.
PE.com has a new 50th anniversary logo celebrating the last championship
Wait, you mean the Eagles haven't won any championships under Reid/Banner/Lurie? Are they aware of this?
the intro on the site is really good...but for some reason they made the throwback jerseys shiny bright green
the nfl needs to contract out mitchell and ness to make the jerseys for the teams...because they get it 100% right everytime..but the actual league and whoever they are working with (reebok ect..) for some reason often have trouble
Yes! IGY found something to complain about with this decision. All is right with the world.
sorry if i think the jerseys honoring a certain year should ummm actually be the jersey they wore that year
if this was the eagles full time new jersey id be unbelievably estatic
All is right with the world.
Were they the best jerseys of all time, or merely in the top ten?
its also gonna be sickening to see a jed collins 'throwback'...throwback jerseys should not come with current players names...especially on jerseys that didnt have names
no one should buy any of these
i mean if you are gonna invent a new jersey why not do it and make it the eagles current new jersey...dont call a new jersey a throwback...and dont call it a throwback if they never wore it in the past
I wish He Hate Me was still on the team
underwear, underwear
actually i take that back there is a reason to get these and thats because they arent the hideous pieces of shtein they wear now...less of the current green around is still a great thing
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs535.ash1/31381_119084498115372_117726204917868_196739_4990994_n.jpg)
Did his manager send you that?
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2i900a8.jpg)
who's the 6th grader next to Stewie? lol
desean jackson
sunmo is right.
you didnt realize I was joking?
no, not at all.
i don't get sarcasm.
Did PG make a short joke?
those pictures look better as far as the green not being neon bright
it fell short.
Funny jokes are a tall order around here.
Not enough bad things can happen to you people.
what's with the short fuse, russell?
Where would you like me to start, Jef?
Die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die.
Oh jesus. I just caught that. I hate you all. So much.
at the bottom, of course.
small
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2010, 12:15:25 PM
those pictures look better as far as the green not being neon bright
You do realize that color varies from monitor to monitor and what you see might not be what others see. I agree though they looked bad on the Eagles website, which is most likely due to the piss poor photographer not color correcting them. They look much better on the players pic. I am scared for DJack. He's one hit away from death he's so small.
This might be a better question asked in the butta joints thread but anyone have the inside on some authentic knockoffs?
Ok, I gotta admit that all of this "small" talk is starting to get a little ridiculous. Let's move on to some bigger issues, shall we?
SD, interested in a Torrance Small johnson, or a small Charles Johnson joint?
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 03, 2010, 02:25:49 PM
SD, interested in a Torrance Small johnson, or a small Charles Johnson joint?
maybe....
Do you still have that Neil Little Phantoms jersey for sale?
I thought we moved on from this malarkey. what's the big idea?
Wasn't the "L.J." in L.J. Smith short for LittleJohn?
(http://www.graphics.com/modules/Gallery/albums/album273/LilJonT_shirt.sized.jpg)
Back on topic for a sec...LOVE the hats; hate the jerseys. We'll never see the 80's/mid 90's Kellys ever again, and aside from shipping off Dawkins, that's my biggest problem with this ownership.
Carry on.
Quote from: Die-Hard on May 03, 2010, 03:43:48 PM
Back on topic for a sec...LOVE the hats; hate the jerseys. We'll never see the 80's/mid 90's Kellys ever again, and aside from shipping off Dawkins, that's my biggest problem with this ownership.
Carry on.
its not supposed to be the 80s-90s jersey. its supposed to be the 1960 one.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 03, 2010, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on May 03, 2010, 03:43:48 PM
Back on topic for a sec...LOVE the hats; hate the jerseys. We'll never see the 80's/mid 90's Kellys ever again, and aside from shipping off Dawkins, that's my biggest problem with this ownership.
Carry on.
its not supposed to be the 80s-90s jersey. its supposed to be the 1960 one.
thats the problem
This is going to break down to some Seinfeld episode next, with people talking about fabrics and shtein.
Why is that the problem.
Had the Eagles won a SB in the 80s/90s...they'd celebrate that with the jerseys.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 03, 2010, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on May 03, 2010, 03:43:48 PM
Back on topic for a sec...LOVE the hats; hate the jerseys. We'll never see the 80's/mid 90's Kellys ever again, and aside from shipping off Dawkins, that's my biggest problem with this ownership.
Carry on.
its not supposed to be the 80s-90s jersey. its supposed to be the 1960 one.
Oh OK, thanks. I was pretty sure the 80's/90's weren't 50 years ago, but wasn't certain. Now I know. Phew.
ha, harsh.
oh snap
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 03, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
Why is that the problem.
because they arent the 1960 jerseys
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 03, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
oh snap
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Latest Member: Brent Celek
I pm'd him the Daniel Craig pick.
please do not PM him.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 03, 2010, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 03, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
oh snap
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Latest Member: Brent Celek
I pm'd him the Daniel Craig pick.
lol
You can no longer PM him.
that's no small feet.
Too late... I fully expect Brent to provide the answer to "What's A Henway" as his first post.
Brent... you're up...
I'm more interested in hearing from Brett Celek.
Quote from: Rome on May 03, 2010, 05:33:16 PM
Too late... I fully expect Brent to provide the answer to "What's A Henway" as his first post.
Brent... you're up...
HAH jesus christ I completely forgot about that shtein :-D
Ha! No way he post now, he's going, going, gone.
Yeah, I can't envision a scenario where this experiment ends well.
Quote from: King Cole on May 03, 2010, 06:25:55 PM
Yeah, I can't envision a scenario where this experiment ends well.
Let's just assume that there are plenty of realistic things that you cannot envision.
Pics from the butta joint unveiling (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/photos/index.asp?section_id=1863)
The main takeaway: Riley Gunnels is fargin huge.
Which one is that salty sonofabitch Bednarik?
Never mind. I figured it out. I'm smrt.
He's not visible because Riley Gunnels did in fact eat him just a half an hour before.
QuoteThe fan base perception has been that since Jeffrey Lurie changed to midnight green in 1996, two years after he bought the team, the current regime was not a fan of the classic color. In 2007, the Birds commemorated their 75th anniversary season with yellow and powder blue uniforms designed to commemorate the team's first season, in 1933 -- even though very few if any Eagles fans remembered ever seeing the team wear those colors, and most fans were unaware the Birds ever had worn them.
Today, Lurie denied being old school-averse.
"Oh, no no, no, no," Lurie said. "Not at all."
full of ish
Not enough no's by Jeff for me to believe him.
Actually, wait a minute.
He's not old school adverse - his old lady is.
as per Adam Caplan's Twitter:
QuoteEagles signed G Greg Isdaner to a three-year deal, team announced.
Look test: Amish?
(http://ttp://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/combine/headshots/79581.jpg)
6'4 325 lbs.
QuoteNot many guards leave school early to start their professional career, but Isdaner felt it was time to move on. His career at WVU took off like gangbusters, as he started immediately and earned Freshman All-American honors at left guard. He was then named first-team All-Big East in his sophomore season. Being left off the all-conference squad as a junior was more a reflection of West Virginia's inconsistent season than his play. During his three seasons in Morgantown, Isdaner proved himself to have enough athleticism and strength to eventually be an NFL starter. Had an arm span of 32 1/2 inches and a hand span of 9 3/4 inches at the combine.
from gladwyne
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/89773341.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0F33D9B500F290AA3A46889F8C6B2748D132DD3E4318D7FDAE30A760B0D811297)
(http://media.philly.com/images/050410-400-gonzo.jpg)
Awesome.
Asante doesn't like Domowitch (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/04/asante-samuel-takes-on-philly-reporter/)
and I know it's 99% garbage, but what's the ESPN Insider thing on the front page about John Henderson and the Eagles?
Either 1% non-garbage, or a trick question
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 04, 2010, 02:53:20 PM
Asante doesn't like Domowitch (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/04/asante-samuel-takes-on-philly-reporter/)
and I know it's 99% garbage, but what's the ESPN Insider thing on the front page about John Henderson and the Eagles?
That would make little to no sense, the Eagles have been trying to get younger all off-season and then add a guy that is 31. I am not saying I would mind it, but Henderson doesn't really seem to fit what they are trying to do.
If there is a shred of truth to it then maybe they are just completely unhappy with their depth at DT.
3-4 with Henderson works for me, who would slap him though?
Henderson as a nose tackle?
WTF?
he's like 380 right? i dont watch Jville games for shtein but i thought they ran a 3-4 with him. Or was it a 4-3 with stroud next to him?
Rome should know. He's a Jags fan.
and old
We need some new blood around here. Thank god for Brent.
he's never been that big. 335 is what his reported playing weight is. he's a big farger but not a fat ass like most nose tackles.
ah, for some reason i thought he was a giant hoss
He's also tall as shtein. I think he's like 6'8" or some crazy shtein. So 335 on a frame like that makes him a gigantic Bunkley.
Devin Ross with some crazy neck ink.
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/spotlight/261.jpg)
97.5 is apparently going to have McNabb on this friday night to "Ask him the questions you want him to be asked"
I would prefer if 5 and his incessant drama queen bullshtein just went away, at least until he retires. I thought that was one of the main positives of getting him off the team.
Quote from: Munson on May 10, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
97.5 is apparently going to have McNabb on this friday night to "Ask him the questions you want him to be asked"
So they're having their own 'Ask an Eagle', pg won't be happy that somebody copied her idea.
I think it's fake. And if it isn't, it's embarrassing that Philly would send 97.5 to ask the questions and not the pulse of the city, 610.
Quote from: SD on May 10, 2010, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 10, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
97.5 is apparently going to have McNabb on this friday night to "Ask him the questions you want him to be asked"
So they're having their own 'Ask an Eagle', pg won't be happy that somebody copied her idea.
They're in the clear as PG has no rights to "Ask a Former Eagle"
That's right, but they could title it 'Ask a Racist'
I can't help but wonder if, when McNabb retires, and if he comes back to philly to retire as an Eagle, if the crowd will boo him on the way out as the dirty thirty booed him on the way in.
I hope so
If by boo you mean launch RPG's at him, then yes.
if they retire his jersey and have some kind of donovan mcnabb day, and he gets booed, that will finally send him over the edge. he will finally break down and cry, which will be fitting considering all the times hes had to fight away tears because of the what the mean fans the mean media have said about such a perfect gentleman like donovan. itll be hysterical.
Don't be so bitter, MDS. It'll be a great day. McNabb will come out, and see something hidden under a tarp. Cuzin Ed will introduce him and pull the cover off the tarp, unveiling a Big Wheel tricked out in midnight green. McNabb will get on and start pedaling around the field, waving to the crowd.
QuoteJackson: Mornhinweg questioned my toughness after concussion
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 11, 2010 3:47 PM ET
Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson says that after he suffered a concussion during the 2009 season, offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg questioned his toughness and pressured him to return to the field.
"I can remember we went up to New York [Week 14] - that was a huge game for us," Jackson told Sporting News. "The week before, [the Giants had] beaten Dallas and I didn't play [at Atlanta] because I had a concussion. It was iffy if I'd come back and play. Our offensive coordinator, Marty Mornhinweg, said some things, trying to question my toughness. I was like, 'Coach, I just got a concussion. This [is] my brain. If it's anything else, my shoulder, whatever, I'm going to play.'"
Jackson's comments came from a Sporting News interview that we've mentioned a couple of times because it led to a back-and-forth between Jackson and Donovan McNabb, and because Jackson demonstrated supreme confidence in his and the Eagles' abilities.
But I hadn't noticed the comments about Mornhinweg until I saw them at the Off the Record blog, and the comments about Mornhinweg are a bigger deal than the comments about McNabb.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made clear last season that he expects every NFL team to take concussions seriously, and that decisions about when players can return to the field after concussions are to be made by doctors. If the attitude in Philadelphia is that those decisions are to be made by assistant coaches, then Goodell may need to get in touch with the Eagles' coaching staff and remind them of the league's concussion policies.
Fire Marty, replace with Gruden, everybody gets angry and drunk!
QuoteI was like, 'Coach, I just got a concussion. This [is] my brain.
Why football players get concerned about the least frequently used part of their body is beyond me.
marty has never used his so why should anyone else get to have one
Good point. He's the guy who took the wind in sudden death overtime.
HOF bad decision
Anyone who is shocked at or upset by this has obviously never played a down past the pee-wee level.
Yup.
Projectile vomiting from concussion symptoms or not, get out there and play. That's the internal message. Externally they suck up to the public and league but it ain't like that.
my two first concussions were thanks to CYO football, that shtein sucks balls, but when it happens unless you're in a coma you dont even know what happened until later.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 11, 2010, 07:28:43 PM
my two first concussions were thanks to CYO football, that shtein sucks balls, but when it happens unless you're in a coma you dont even know what happened until later.
My first two from an unlikely sport...basketball.
I had several concussions playing ball. That probably explains my love of puns & Applebees.
But seriously, folks...
You rarely hear anything about concussions or cranial injuries from players who actually sustain them. Can you imagine how many linemen and linebackers get them and how frequently they happen?
Yet a pipsqueak like PIMP gets one and it's front page news.
Whatever, though... it's all bullshtein. These guys know the deal and if they don't then they're too stupid to notice anyway.
Never had a concussion myself, but I caused two playing baseball. One, a teammate and I collided on a popup. He was a bit taller than me, and my forehead hit him square in the mouth, and he fell back and hit his head. Not only a concussion, but I pushed his teeth back (he had to get braces). I was dazed, but had no after-effects.
The second, some idiot decided to slide into home head-first, and he went smack into my shin protector. Knocked himself out cold.
(http://product.images.store.philadelphiaeagles.com/37-01/37-01107-F.jpg)
Andy Reid approved!
The concussion does partly explain his twitter hieroglyphics
mcvictim is currently on the real philly sports station.
wow, i'm shocked, he said absolutely nothing.
Quote from: smeags on May 14, 2010, 10:01:02 AM
mcvictim is currently on the real philly sports station.
I was at the gym when they interviewed him but caught their re-cap, did he apologize or something?
yeah the repeated sorry i didnt win a suoper bowl in philly.
donovan apoligized for not bringing a superbowl to philly.
apology accepted, donovan! its all better now!
Quote from: KDS on May 14, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
donovan apoligized for not bringing a superbowl to philly.
apology accepted, donovan! its all better now!
That cut the Booos by 10 % when he retires as an Eagle halftime in 2014
TC opens July 26, everyone is in by the 29th, and they leave Lehigh August 18th...
QuoteEagles sign DT Boo Robinson Listen to this article. Powered by Odiogo.com
Earlier today, the Eagles announced their dates for training camp.
And now, they've added another body to compete at Lehigh.
The Birds have signed Wake Forest defensive tackle Boo Robinson to a three-year deal, his agent Albert Elias announced on Twitter.
The three-year deal part is of course meaningless, as the Eagles can cut him at any time.
Robinson (6-1, 295) had one sack as a senior, but was hampered by a back injury according to his agent.
"I think the Eagles really found themselves a diamond in the rough," Elias told Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post. "He's doing great. He's back to his quickness and speed and we look for big things to happen for him."
Per Wilson's report, Robinson was advised that he'd be a third-round pick if he left after his junior season, but he decided to return to Wake Forest.
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As long as his agent's first name is Atticus, I'm on board.
watch him make the team then the media start talking about how a guy named boo is perfect for a city like philly
How will we know when he's made a good play or a bad play?!
Al Michaels: "They're not booing, they're saying BOOOOOOO"
uh huh.
Was he injured or something that they said he is back to full speed.
Quote
Robinson (6-1, 295) had one sack as a senior, but was hampered by a back injury according to his agent.
Its a good thing I can read.
Wait, what happened to his back?
he had a boo boo
Is he going to be okay?
Even if his back is ok, I read that the Eagles could still cut him at any time. That's a good approach. If a wide eyed rookie walk-on kid sees a naked Andy Reid coming at him in the shower with a shiv he will want to try harder next time.
HOF ingram full participant in rookie minis today
(http://www.dontboothebirds.com/img/cornelius-ingram-pro-workout.jpg)
He's Chest Dent Ingram until further notice. HoF Celek has taken over the HoF moniker.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Macho_moves_to_CB.html#axzz0oPW122IE
That article just reminded me that Ellis Hobbs is the other starting CB opposite of team player Asante.
Ugh.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0510/Rendell_boosts_Skins.html?showall
Rendell is a douche of epic proportions.
Quote from: Munson on May 19, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
That article just reminded me that Ellis Hobbs is the other starting CB opposite of team player Asante.
Ugh.
Hobbs isn't bad.
I can see how Washington is more likely to make the playoffs than the Eagles, but who honestly roots for a division rival in the playoffs? I want them all to lose horribly lopsided games in the first round.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2010, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 19, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
That article just reminded me that Ellis Hobbs is the other starting CB opposite of team player Asante.
Ugh.
Hobbs isn't bad.
He might not be bad, but he certainly wasn't anything spectacular. And he's coming off a neck injury. Asante is probably going to get a lot of one on one assignments this year because McDermott may be forced to consistantly roll help over to the right side.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2010, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 19, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
That article just reminded me that Ellis Hobbs is the other starting CB opposite of team player Asante.
Ugh.
Hobbs isn't bad.
not bad....but not exactly who I want starting on my team.
I like him in the nickle role.
Not sure if this deserved a separate thread, so I put it here. Michael Strahan "sacks" 5 in a Dr. Pepper ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-J9NvAalco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-J9NvAalco)
:-D
Hah....I actually laughed a little at that.
Saw that the other day and got a chuckle out of it.
lol, how bad is his acting when he opens the door..."Mike?"
Mcnabb has a white maid, he's racist.
and even she hates him
Quote from: SunMo on May 24, 2010, 11:05:02 AM
lol, how bad is his acting when he opens the door..."Mike?"
To be fair, Strahan has the advantage of working on the greatest sitcom of all time.
strahan was on the wire?
The Wire was a sitcom?
Only for black people. For white people, it was a gripping, epic story.
i'm white and the only thing gripping about that show was the urge i felt to avoid watching it at all costs.
haha how funny is this exchange
nothing says funny like munson and rome
Way to complete the trifecta.
Here he comes. Here comes Russell Smith.
"I'm not going to cry about my Pa. I'm going to build an airport - put my name on it."
Why, Russell? So you can fly away from your feelings? You can keep them bottled up, Russ, but they will come out sometimes in the most unexpected... Hey, where the farg are my hard boiled eggs!?!?!
good god you're awful and you're actually getting worse with time.
if i cant quote AD and get a laugh then i dont know, maybe ill try wings....rome?
If you tried quoting Mama Cass, I bet it would be hysterical.
Quotes are somehow worse when you do it. You have charisntma.
i just had to google 2 references.
speak internet.
Cough choke cough choke choke arrrrgghhh death
MJG - lap band surgery to slim his fat ass (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100526_Eagles_guard_Jean-Gilles_losing_weight_after_lap-band_surgery.html)
Weight loss surgery is stupid and for the mentally weak.
The Eagles signed a camp fodder safety named Ryan Hamilton, who played for Council Rock North. YOU HEAR THAT, JAY WRIGHT?!?
council rock ? really ? well then we have our very 1st gay on the team. ^-^
maybe you old curmudgeons who still complain about the end zone fumble or dont like his dancing and talking ish will come around to the pimpness now.....recognize his greatness
(http://media.philly.com/images/300*306/20100527_dn_G1DOMO27S.jpg)
Comparing contract dilemmas of DeSean Jackson & Chris Johnson
DOWN IN NASHVILLE, Titans running back Chris Johnson has been conspicuous by his absence from the team's voluntary workouts and offseason training program.
Johnson, who rushed for 2,006 yards last season and set an NFL record for yards from scrimmage, wants a contract extension, and wants it now, and he isn't interested in listening to any excuses why the team can't give him one. If that means being a Grade-A offseason distraction, so be it.
Meanwhile, over at One Nova-Care Way, wide receiver DeSean Jackson is in pretty much the same boat as Johnson. Like Johnson, the 2008 second-round pick clearly has outplayed his 4-year, $3.47 million rookie contract and is looking for an extension. Even hired The Extension King, Drew Rosenhaus, late last year, to help him.
But Jackson is facing the same difficult uncapped-year roadblock as Johnson: the 30 percent rule, which limits the year-to-year salary increases a player can receive in an extension.
While Jackson and Johnson are in the same boat, the two players have chosen two very different ways to deal with their current dilemmas. Johnson's way essentially is to ignore the realities of the uncapped year and stay home until the Titans find a way to show him the money.
Jackson, on the other hand, has dealt with his situation much more maturely. Just 2 years after falling into the middle of the second round of the draft because of character and work-ethic questions, the Pro Bowl wide receiver is rapidly developing into one of the locker-room leaders of a young Eagles team that has just one non-kicker over the age of 29 on its roster.
Jackson, who earned his first Pro Bowl invitation last season and scored 12 touchdowns as a receiver, runner and return man, hasn't squawked once about his contract.
He was a regular participant in the team's offseason conditioning program and is expected to be front-and-center next week when the Eagles commence 8 days of full-squad OTAs before their vacation break.
An Eagles executive said Jackson has been one of the most active players on the team this offseason with respect to charity work and appearances. He was one of three players, along with tight end Brent Celek and linebacker Stewart Bradley, who were on hand earlier this month at Franklin Field when the team unveiled plans to honor the 50th anniversary of the 1960 Eagles championship team.
"We are appreciative of his work ethic and attitude this offseason, and we look forward to him having a long and successful career as an Eagle," said general manager Howie Roseman.
In case you hadn't noticed, I'm not a big Rosenhaus fan. Too much hair gel and ego and not nearly enough moral fiber. But he's a smart guy who understands that there's not a lot the Eagles can do for Jackson right now. And unlike Johnson's agent, Joel Segal, he has been able to get that message across to his client.
"It's unfortunate, but you can't get frustrated because it's not going to change until the [union] makes a deal with the NFL," Jackson said 3 weeks ago. "You just have to deal with it and hopefully something will work out.
"I'm not here to make a big issue out of it or complain about it, because that's not what I do. I feel my relationship that I have with the team and the front office is a [good] one, and I'm patiently waiting."
Some have suggested that both the Eagles and Titans could do extensions for Jackson and Johnson if they really wanted to, citing 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis and Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb as examples of players who recently signed lucrative extensions.
But Willis was the 11th pick in the 2007 draft and had a much higher base salary to work from than Johnson, who was the 24th overall pick in the '08 draft, and Jackson, who was the 49th pick in that same draft. The Eagles were able to do a short extension with Kolb, who only had 1 year left on his rookie deal. But there's no reason for Jackson or Johnson to be interested in short deals right now.
Jackson is scheduled to earn just $470,000 in base salary this year, Johnson $550,000. The only way to get around the 30 percent rule and pay both players what they're worth would be to give them enormous signing bonuses. By enormous, I'm talking in the $30 million-to-$40 million range. Minimum.
There are two reasons the Eagles and Titans aren't going to do that. One is the increased injury risk involved because of the small size of the two players. The other is the language in the current CBA restricting forfeiture of signing bonuses if a player gets into a Michael Vick-like mess.
Signing-bonus forfeitures are limited to cases of holdouts or retirement and limits any forfeiture to 25 percent of the total prorated amount. Last year, NFL special master Stephen Burbank, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, ruled in the Plaxico Burress case that a player can violate behavior clauses in his contract and still be entitled to bonus money.
So, both Jackson and Johnson will have to wait a little while for their big paydays. For now, Jackson is OK with that. Johnson, not so much. *
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
maybe you old curmudgeons who still complain about the end zone fumble or dont like his dancing and talking ish will come around to the pimpness now.....recognize his greatness
So you want people to recognize him for being great because he's choosing not to act like a flamming douche, when the fact of the matter is that there's not really anything the Eagles can do for him right now anyway. If the CBA wasn't an issue and the Eagles were simply being cheap/stubborn, then I might be impressed if Jackson took the high road. But under the current circumstances, there's absolutely nothing to be gained by acting a fool right now. So yeah, kudos to him (and/or Rosenhaus) for being realistic about the situation.
PS....the goal line fumble will always be dumb on epic levels. Nothing will ever change that. The positive from it though is that I don't think I've seen him drop the ball until he's at least 5 yds passed the goal line since then. So that's good.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 27, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
PS....the goal line fumble will always be dumb on epic levels. Nothing will ever change that. The positive from it though is that I don't think I've seen him drop the ball until he's at least 5 yds passed the goal line since then. So that's good.
The animated gif of him doing it in college is still pretty popular.
MA always gonna be MA
i see this now
lol @ sassy calling pimp a "flaming douche."
no respect for the king
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2010, 02:34:46 PM
MA always gonna be MA
i see this now
You need some new material. Or at least something more accurate. You're closer to being black than I am MA.
Quote from: KDS on May 27, 2010, 02:36:35 PM
lol @ sassy calling pimp a "flaming douche."
no respect for the king
Yeah, you should probably try reading that again.
wait thats a pic of dejax ? looks more like kanye west.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
maybe you old curmudgeons who still complain about the end zone fumble or dont like his dancing and talking ish will come around to the pimpness now.....recognize his greatness
Nice grammar.
Quote from: smeags on May 27, 2010, 02:59:19 PM
wait thats a pic of dejax ? looks more like kanye west.
looks like a motherfarging pimp to me!
Looks like a goofball that can't grow a beard right.
Quote from: General_Failure on May 27, 2010, 03:29:30 PM
Looks like a goofball that can't grow a beard right.
yeah, like i said, kanye west.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2010, 02:34:46 PM
MA always gonna be MA
i see this now
Quote from: KDS on May 27, 2010, 02:36:35 PM
lol @ sassy calling pimp a "flaming douche."
no respect for the king
How does middle America figure into this convo? Your act is old and tired. And if our resident future journalist could read, he'd see that sarge congratulated Pimp on NOT acting like a flaming douche.
Friggen' retards.
I like Pimp as much as anyone, and as long as he gets into the endzone and is wearing Eagle green while he does it, I could care less about what he does after. He's a young man in his early 20's who is among the best at what he does. I am just a regular guy and can't count the times I acted like a flaming douche when I was around his age, and most of us would be lying if we said anything different. But I'll say this also, if not for the 30% rule, given Pimp's agent, it would be a different story. So if you want to see what this situation really brings, just wait around, it's gonna' happen.
Ryan Hamilton look test
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/headshots/thumbs/265.jpg)
Neck wider than head = PASS?
whoa, he looks like a terminator.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 28, 2010, 08:56:32 AM
Ryan Hamilton look test
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/headshots/thumbs/265.jpg)
Neck wider than head = PASS?
holy shtein....definitely fake
Cardassian
haa, star trek.
fix your red ex nerd
As per Les Bowen:
# Looks like Marlin Jackson is indeed your #Eagles free safety, for now, anyway.
Then literally 5 minutes later:
# And now Marlin Jackson is down, after falling on a deep pass over the middle. Limping off, assisted by head ath trainer Rick Burkholder.
# Jackson visibly upset. He's coming off back-to-back ACL surgeries. l
Nate Allen was going to get the job anyway, but the secondary isn't exactly deep.
Latest:
Marlin Jackson rides cart inside, head in hands.
Nice pickup there, FO. Turds.
Apparently he left crying.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 01, 2010, 02:25:48 PM
As per Les Bowen:
# Looks like Marlin Jackson is indeed your #Eagles free safety, for now, anyway.
i think les bowen is great....but this line is so bad i wanna punch something
first of all its OTA season and there isnt much meaning to anything that goes on in them...then on top of that he says it "looks like" marlin jackson is the eagles starting free safety and then says "for now"
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 01, 2010, 02:29:44 PM
Latest:
Marlin Jackson rides cart inside, head in hands.
Nice pickup there, FO. Turds.
as long as it wasnt HOF ingram...altho hes probably not too far behind jackson
Apparently, :CF 's own AQ Shipley was rotating in with Nick Cole at first team Center.
Jackson's injury was during non contact 7 on 7 drills. He threw off his gloves instantly. he knows he's done.
Bowen also said that Jackson looked gimpy (in an article back in the last camp) and Jackson vehemently denied it.
OJ Atogwe becomes a FA at midnight.
Get.
From Les Bowen on just that topic
QuoteI'm told #Eagles will not pursue FA Oshiomogho Atogwe in the wake of Marlin Jackson's Achilles' rupture. Will go with what they have.
LOL @ will go with what they have.
Pedal to the metal, motherfargers!
* Pukes *
Gold standard.
save that cash
How'd that Dawkins thing work out again?
Relax.
They'll move Macho Harris back.
all is well.
Quote from: Rome on June 01, 2010, 11:37:15 PM
LOL @ will go with what they have.
Pedal to the metal, motherfargers!
* Pukes *
You really think OJ farging Atogwe is going to be the difference in anything this season?
I don't think one poster here thinks they are winning a Superbowl anyway, so why not just play your young guys and see what you have? Then when there is actually a CBA in 2011 bringing back the UFA and they have a billion dollars in cap room by cutting 50 players this offseason, they can sign whatever DBs they need.
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/players/headshots/thumbs/265.jpg)
This guy has a better chance to make the team now.
if this was 2005 coming off a superbowl and your offseason consisted of mike mcmahon then you flip out...the defense is going to horrible this year and oj atogwae aint changing that...settle down and follow cobbs progress this year...it will be a fascinating ride
Quote from: King Cole on June 02, 2010, 04:50:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 01, 2010, 11:37:15 PM
LOL @ will go with what they have.
Pedal to the metal, motherfargers!
* Pukes *
You really think OJ farging Atogwe is going to be the difference in anything this season?
I don't think one poster here thinks they are winning a Superbowl anyway, so why not just play your young guys and see what you have? Then when there is actually a CBA in 2011 bringing back the UFA and they have a billion dollars in cap room by cutting 50 players this offseason, they can sign whatever DBs they need.
Pretty sure I never said anything of the sort.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2010, 09:06:40 AM
if this was 2005 coming off a superbowl and your offseason consisted of mike mcmahon then you flip out...the defense is going to horrible this year and oj atogwae aint changing that...settle down and follow cobbs progress this year...it will be a fascinating ride
Your sudden love for this guy is quite disturbing.
I don't think he loves Cobb as much as he loves the fact that Cobb isn't McNabb.
yeah i could care less about cobb...but even if you hate him you cant deny that this season is going to be crazy following mcnabb and cobb each week...seeing the never ending meaningless stat comparisons...the i told so's back and forth each week...its such an interesting dynamic...i can only speak for myself but i feel like it still hasnt hit me like it should that they are both in the same division and even that mcnabb is on the skins....it doesnt even need to be said how off the charts crazy the two head to head meetings are gonna be
and all that is in addition to following cobbs development in general
i cant farging wait for the season...the first one i have been really excited about since 2005
The McNabb Kolb comparison aside, I'm excited there's new blood and not the same old crap and recycled players they've been trotting out there for the past 5 years. The Kolb part is the capstone, but there are a ton of young players to watch for the first time in a long time.
i cannot wait for donovans first loss in a big game as a skin. thats the superbowl for me. seeing him fail and cry and blame his 400 year old running backs. thatll do the trick.
Quote from: KDS on June 02, 2010, 10:22:25 AM
i cannot wait for donovans first loss in a big game as a skin. thats the superbowl for me. seeing him fail and cry and blame his 400 year old running backs. thatll do the trick.
What's great about that is he can still use the "we showed our age today" line.
is there anything more oil and watery than donovan mcnabb being on a team with a bunch of guys from the U
maybe one of them can get gut him with a machete
or shot in the dick
(http://giftqb.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/portiscostume11.jpg)
watching this guy discuss a mcnabb meltdown against the cowboys next year should be great t.v.
With all the RB's they signed, no guarantee Portis even makes the team. OMGGETJK
Stewie tweaked his calf
i wonder if theres room in the hyperbolic chamber with jimmy
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 02, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
i wonder if theres room in the hyperbolic chamber with jimmy
Of course there's room. It's only the most super awesome chamber ever built by anyone in the entire universe.
Quote from: SD on June 02, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
The McNabb Kolb comparison aside, I'm excited there's new blood and not the same old crap and recycled players they've been trotting out there for the past 5 years. The Kolb part is the capstone, but there are a ton of young players to watch for the first time in a long time.
This is the consensus I hear from a lot of my friends that are Eagles fans, even the ones that didn't like the McNabb move. This is the most intriguing Eagles season in a long time.
Quote from: SD on June 02, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
The McNabb Kolb comparison aside, I'm excited there's new blood and not the same old crap and recycled players they've been trotting out there for the past 5 years. The Kolb part is the capstone, but there are a ton of young players to watch for the first time in a long time.
Andy Reid says hi :boom
Quote from: Munson on June 02, 2010, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: SD on June 02, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
The McNabb Kolb comparison aside, I'm excited there's new blood and not the same old crap and recycled players they've been trotting out there for the past 5 years. The Kolb part is the capstone, but there are a ton of young players to watch for the first time in a long time.
Andy Reid says hi :boom
One way or the other nobody we'll find out once and for all if it was coaching or McNabb that was holding the team back. :paranoid
Shady "tweaked" his ankle yesterday and didn't practice today. Herremans is seeing a specialist for his foot but claims it's just precautionary.
ALL IS WELL. NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on June 03, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 02, 2010, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: SD on June 02, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
The McNabb Kolb comparison aside, I'm excited there's new blood and not the same old crap and recycled players they've been trotting out there for the past 5 years. The Kolb part is the capstone, but there are a ton of young players to watch for the first time in a long time.
Andy Reid says hi :boom
One way or the other nobody we'll find out once and for all if it was coaching or McNabb that was holding the team back. :paranoid
or it was a combination
or cobb completely sucks and we get no reading whatsoever
while its gonna be awesome to follow both sides its possible that it will never be that black and white
Stewie's calf injury turned out to be just a cramp
Midol.
Someone's been watching too much "Karate Kid"
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7807/stewiev.gif)
Stewie building a playground for poor kids while wearing a $7,000 Rolex Submariner.
Awesome.
lol
who wears a watch anyway?
I want to know what time it is, I look at my phone
Quote from: Diomedes on June 04, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
who wears a watch anyway?
People with too much time on their hands.
Rome, what have you done to GF?
Muwahaha!
Quote from: Diomedes on June 04, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
who wears a watch anyway?
i sport a swatch man..old school, new wave style
i havent been here for a long time and now that i clicked, im reading this thread title and thinking "wtf"
at first im thinking, "i need to investigate this further" until i see its already 115 pages long...frickin kidding me?...give me the cliff notes...
mcnabb is gone which is a GREAT MOVE imo...i personally like Kolb and am rooting for him...besides that, whats wrong? didnt follow your draft so cant comment on that..
Cliff notes version: Andy farging Reid.
cliff notes: it's philly and we still haven't won a superbowl and don't appear to be any time soon so we pretty much hate everything. including whiner fans.
Truck, great to hear from you so early in the season. You're actually a welcome sight after the performance by the Flyers tonight.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 06, 2010, 07:43:08 AM
Cliff notes version: Andy farging Reid.
Quote from: LBIggle on June 06, 2010, 11:40:07 PM
cliff notes: it's philly and we still haven't won a superbowl and don't appear to be any time soon so we pretty much hate everything. including whiner fans.
I'll just add that Ellis Hobbs is one of the starting CBs and the safety options are a Rookie, Quentin Demps and Macho Harris. Pretty sure I could get open against this secondary.
dont forget that they also dont have a pass rush that can protect the hideous secondary...its a lethal combination
who could forget that? it makes my blood boil to see the prime years of Cole's career frittered away against double team after double team because no other lineman on the team poses a threat to the opponent. Maybe this new kid will help. Who knows.
Or Cole will blow out a knee in camp and we won't have to worry about it.
Matt Mosley summary of what he saw at OTA's (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/14692/observation-deck-eagles-otas)
QuoteHe and Celek are close friends, and they've brought that chemistry to the field. He fired a pass down the middle of the field that Celek collected without ever having to break stride.
Wood?
Then, he threw a 5 yard pass directly at the feet of Charles Scott and celebrated with a goofy laugh and uncomfortable dance move. Kolb the impressionist.
But seriously, Marlin Jackson officially to IR.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 10, 2010, 05:24:31 PM
But seriously, Marlin Jackson officially to IR.
oFISHally?
The medical staff reeled him in for the season.
Shame on you, Dio, rising to the bait like that.
He would have just floundered around all year on that bad leg anyway.
The Eagles also caught and released the following future HOFers: quarterback Joey "Devilfish" Elliott, running back Keithon "Bait" Flemming, wide receiver Pat "Pat" Simonds and fullback Chris "Hardass" Zardas
Quote from: General_Failure on June 10, 2010, 06:36:23 PM
Shame on you, Dio, rising to the bait like that.
I plan to counter his every pun, and any other, with my own, if only to prove how awful puns are.
Well, that was the initial plan. Now I just love a pun.
i agree, they're so horribly unfunny that i'm starting to like them.
QuoteWith Asante Samuel absent this week and Ellis Hobbs sitting out team drills because of a neck injury, Dimitri Patterson and Joselio Hanson were the starting cornerbacks. Macho Harris also received plenty of reps at cornerback. And if you're looking for a darkhorse in training camp, check out the redemption of safety Quintin Demps. He was in the dog house with Reid last season, in part, because of his mouth. Now, he's taking a much more mature approach and I think he could earn some playing time. Former secondary coach Brian Stewart told me last season that Demps had immense potential, but he didn't take advantage of his opportunities. At this point, he's saying all the right things. And Roseman and Reid have both taken notice.
Wonderful
quote from who?
That would be awesome if Demps could step up and prove that the light's gone on and he's ready to ball.
It would be awesome if Megan Fox sucked my meatcicle, too, and more likely.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 12, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
quote from who?
sorry Dio, thats from the Mosley blog that was posted above.
Here's a good wrapup of the OTA's http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Post-OTA_observations_on_the_offense.html#axzz0qZ3H3sUA
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 12, 2010, 08:24:14 PM
That would be awesome if Demps could step up and prove that the light's gone on and he's ready to ball.
i actually feel good about q dee...i think he will be one of the pleasant surprises this year
Top five biggest surprise this year?
another OTA wrap up, focus on the rookies:
http://www.csnphilly.com/06/11/10/Complete-Breakdown-of-Eagles-Rookie-OTAs/landing.html?blockID=252170&feedID=692
QuoteSapp was much more effective in the final OTAs at defensive end rather than spending most of practice trying to cover tight ends and running backs.
Well, damn. How'd they think to put him at end? That's some genius shtein there.
Demps keeping his mouth shut = him somehow becoming a good football player. Riiiiiiiiiiight
QuoteRiley Cooper: The massive Florida wideout made serious strides during OTAs, improving and looking more comfortable every practice. After this pre-training camp performance, it's not out of the question to think Cooper could work his way into the Eagles' crowded wide receiver rotation this season. At 6-foot-3, 233 pounds and with serious strength, Cooper made an impact on the practice field, especially the last two weeks before suffering a minor hamstring injury.
I like this guy more every time I read something about him.
Quote
it's not out of the question to think Cooper could work his way into the Eagles' crowded wide receiver rotation this season.
I would hope so, since Riley Cooper's competition for the the 5th spot is guys like Kevin Jurovich and Blue Cooper.
Of course you do. Every team needs a white WR.
QuoteHe even made a slight adjustment. After watching him in the first minicamp and early in rookie camp, I noticed that Kolb could be demonstrative after he made a bad throw. He looked to be pressing a little bit. However, by the end of OTAs, Kolb seemed very much in control of his emotions.
I want him to show his emotions Isn't that what we wanted out of our QB the past 11 years? Get a little pissed, show some emotion!
QuoteDaniel Te'o-Nesheim: The quiet kid from the West Coast works hard every day. He's proven enough already to be playing with the first-team nickel defense on the interior of the defensive line. Te'o-Nesheim has shown a wide array of moves and an ability to use his hands well in tight quarters.
Haters?
Lets use an undersized DE as a DT in the NFL GENIUS
so according to mosely the eagles are the clear cut superbowl favorites...seriously is there anything the team doesnt do well?
Win Championships
1:08 - 1:30
classic passive aggressive 5
http://www.csnphilly.com/06/12/10/McNabb-Young-Eagles-Must-Learn-to-Deal-w/landing.html?blockID=252375&feedID=704
A limited number of single-game tickets to the Eagles' home games will go on sale tomorrow at 10 a.m., through Ticketmaster. Fans may purchase tickets to regular and preseason home games through Ticketmaster online at Ticketmaster.com or Charge-By-Phone (800-745-3000).
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 14, 2010, 08:03:33 AM
so according to mosely the eagles are the clear cut superbowl favorites...seriously is there anything the team doesnt do well?
Of course. OTAs are great indicators of how the season is going to pan out. Especially when you're going 1/2 speed. But I bet they look real crisp during team calisthenics.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 14, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
1:08 - 1:30
classic passive aggressive 5
http://www.csnphilly.com/06/12/10/McNabb-Young-Eagles-Must-Learn-to-Deal-w/landing.html?blockID=252375&feedID=704
Already posted in the correct thread.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 13, 2010, 08:54:30 PM
Die of gonorrhea and rot in hell, please. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5279980)
...with a much better title I might add.
Haven't checked in for a while... Hope you filthy whores have a nice summer. ;D
Filthy and slutty as ever.
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Mankins rips Patriots for mistreatment
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 14, 2010 4:25 PM ET
On a day where many restricted free agents let bygones be bygones, Patriots guard Logan Mankins got personal with his employer.
The Pro Bowler doesn't plan to sign his restricted free agent tender, and he wants to be traded because he says the Patriots haven't been upfront with him.
"After the 2008 season, me and my agent approached the Patriots about an extension and I was told that Mr. Kraft did not want to do an extension because of the [uncertain collective bargaining agreement]," Mankins told Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. "I was asked to play '09 out, and that they would address contract after the uncapped year. I'm a team player, I took them at word, and I felt I played out an undervalued contract."
The Patriots hate having their dirty laundry aired publicly, especially by players. This is a bold step Mankins felt necessary after he says the team wasn't truthful.
"Right now, this is about principle with me and keeping your word and how you treat people. This is what I thought the foundation of the Patriots was built on," Mankins said. "Apparently, I was wrong. Growing up, I was taught a man's word is his bond. Obviously this isn't the case with the Patriots."
Ouch. This one could take a while
He'd be nice to have on the OL...
Um, yes. Never happen though.
Quote from: shorebird on June 14, 2010, 04:53:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 14, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
1:08 - 1:30
classic passive aggressive 5
http://www.csnphilly.com/06/12/10/McNabb-Young-Eagles-Must-Learn-to-Deal-w/landing.html?blockID=252375&feedID=704
Already posted in the correct thread.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 13, 2010, 08:54:30 PM
Die of gonorrhea and rot in hell, please. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5279980)
...with a much better title I might add.
the correct thread was actually locked for some reason and mine has the video
all in all id say a win for igy
Referring to yourself by your screen name is bad enough. Referring to an abbreviation of your screen name = all time fail.
Eagles single game tix went on sale this morning.
Got a single for the Dallas game. Nosebleed Section 242. Meh.
that's my old section that Russell loves so much
wine and cheese
Those motherfargers.
Didn't get a ticket, but I WILL be attending an Eagles home game this season.
How did anyone actually get shut out of tickets this year? I went on at 10:30 and bought singles to three different games.
you are assuming he tried at all...or tried before 11 when they were gone...
he just said he didnt get any
its retarded to ever buy tickets thru ticketmaster...especially singles...short of a game like the dallas finale in 2008 there isnt ever a game you cant get a face value (and 95% of the time less than face) single to
Philly.com has a note today that Lincoln Financial might be sold to Sun Life, giving the NFL Sun Life Field here and Sun Life Stadium in Miami...
There's an it's always sunny or sunmo joke in there somewhere but I don't feel like finding it.
Something about him not having a life, maybe. But yeah. We'll leave that to someone with a better sense of humor. Like IGY.
when you walk in you are insulted by the ticket takers and they might take your wives.
Shoe shopping?
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 18, 2010, 10:55:51 AM
Philly.com has a note today that Lincoln Financial might be sold to Sun Life, giving the NFL Sun Life Field here and Sun Life Stadium in Miami...
OH farg! My 401K!
true
Wrong thread, cracka.
Forgive him. He's excited for his Skins.
lol
right now on NFL Network they're showing a replay of December's Sunday nighter at New York
Watched that before catching a red eye home from Vegas. That was before Phreak started going there every other week.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 20, 2010, 07:12:14 PM
Watched that before catching a red eye home from Vegas. That was before Phreak started going there every other week.
lol...I just finished pricing out flights for the last week of August.
i'm going on thursday for my 3rd time since April.
I'm going in November for my 2nd time ever. But I do scratch my nuts a lot.
Any Eagles news?
Haven't been to Vegas in sometime but I'll be in Chicago in August. Like Chicago. Great stores, restaurants. Excellent walking city. Oh, and I too scratch my balls quite a bit.
I can't think of Chicago without thinking about the fantastic buildings. What a handsome city.
Who is Brett Johnson? The Eagles claimed him off waivers.
If his name is Brett he is definitely white.
Can we skip the look test then, and go straight to mocking?
Do you know any other way?
Boldly then:
If the Bills didn't want this guy, he'll fit in great here.
TO?
Doesn't count, we didn't want him first.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 28, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
If his name is Brett he is definitely white.
Brett Perriman is black.
so it brett johnson
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Camper/PHOTO/BRETTJOHNSON150.JPG)
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00orbHS72YbTJ/340x.jpg)
Lies.
He looks like he's really good at hackey sack.
I'd have guessed surfing.
Quote"I think a lot of that is kind of overblown" and "I was loved in Philadelphia."
-Donovan F. McNabb
Go ahead Phreak, get on your boi. Tell us how he was treated so poorly and how everyone was so mean to him and his vagina.
Of course he's going to say that. He isn't going to come out and rip away. You and me both know he wasn't loved here.
For the most part I think McNabb was loved, it's just the critics were louder than his supporters were and his act grew thin after 2004 so all fans remember is the redundant not getting it done and injuries year after year.
its somewhere middle bottom....with a huge lean towards hated
hes definitely way south of mike schmidtville
He was loved but wore out his welcome.
he's a farging phony and there's nothing we hate more than phonies.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 01, 2010, 07:48:00 AM
He was loved but wore out his welcome.
Definitely this.
Quote from: Rome on July 01, 2010, 07:49:28 AM
he's a farging phony and there's nothing we hate more than phonies.
And probably this.
Eskin said the Birds are interested in Troy Smith from the Ravens should they part ways with Vick.
im interested in killing eskin
puff piece about reid in afghanistan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5356105)
no word on whether he's smuggling back some opium for his kids.
Reid on the troops: "They did a heck of a job out there."
"The war is fine"
so i was thinking this morning, are we allowed to start making fun of mcnabb for having no rings yet? because i think i'm going to start doing that to skins fans this year. seems just retarded enough to get them mad.
Quote from: phattymatty on July 08, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
so i was thinking this morning, are we allowed to start making fun of mcnabb for having no rings yet? because i think i'm going to start doing that to skins fans this year. seems just retarded enough to get them mad.
:-D
(http://media.philly.com/images/070810-eagletarian-400.jpg)
11 years ago... holy shtein.
Is Koy checking out Donovan's ass?
Wouldn't you?
Christ the NFL has been rough on Andy.
Yeah, blame the NFL for Andy being an out of control jabba.
Reid has taken years off my life so farg him
He takes those years and stores them in his cheeks like a squirrel. I believe he adds them to his sons' prison sentences.
Akers is now the city's most tenured athlete?
i've only ever owned two jerseys. Hauck and Akers. I gave the Hauck jersey to a guy in Serbia and haven't worn the Akers one in years, since I realized how profoundly stupid it is for fans to wear jerseys.
Anyone who wants it can have it.
jimmy i think?
anyway akers is a dork kicker. jimmy is a pimp soul brotha.
guess who wins.
If it was a Mike Zordich jersey MDS would give you a lap dance for it.
Dio is obviously a racist.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 10, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
i've only ever owned two jerseys. Hauck and Akers. I gave the Hauck jersey to a guy in Serbia and haven't worn the Akers one in years, since I realized how profoundly stupid it is for fans to wear jerseys.
Anyone who wants it can have it.
Nothing is funnier to me than seeing some fat guy smearing bbq sauce off his chin complaining about the athletic prowess of a player whose jersey he is wearing.
Quote from: charlie on July 11, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on July 10, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
i've only ever owned two jerseys. Hauck and Akers. I gave the Hauck jersey to a guy in Serbia and haven't worn the Akers one in years, since I realized how profoundly stupid it is for fans to wear jerseys.
Anyone who wants it can have it.
Nothing is funnier to me than seeing some fat guy smearing bbq sauce off his chin complaining about the athletic prowess of a player whose jersey he is wearing.
Ha! Or someone so smashed by the 4th quarter that it takes two or three steps to get walking straight when going to the fridge for another beer. Then, after bashing McNabb for throwing another worm burner, I start on the refs.
If you need to purge whatever you ate last, read this. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100718_Reid__Banner_give_Eagles_opposing_points_of_view.html?viewAll=y)
I can't imagine why this team has never won a Super Bowl.
that is an amazing article....ashely fox did an incredible job
"If you ask me who's running the show, I'd say Joe Banner, without question," said a team source who asked for anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. "All along, Joe's the boss. Jeffrey's the owner, Joe's the boss. Everybody knows that.
"When Andy first came here, he had the power. We were winning. It was like a shared type of thing. But guess what? Joe's got all the power again, and that's it."
The fact his four-eyed apprentice got hired as GM is all the proof you need who's in charge down there.
The article was excellent no matter how depressed it might leave every Eagles fan after reading it.
banner inc. son!
The Eagles are run like the U.S. Government but on a smaller scale:
Lurie - Executive Branch
Reid - Legislative Branch
Banner - Judicial Branch
It is not surprising.
And it gives more legitimacy to the report that came out after they traded McNabb that Reid wanted to keep him and the upper management wanted to go with Kolb.
Joe Banner and Howie Roseman are the Philadelphia Eagles.
my friends used to tell me all the time that i was overreacting when roseman was hired...that i was hyperbolizing the awfulness of the move (shocking i know) but this article perfectly summizes why i was and still am so mad
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 18, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
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I hate you.
lol..sorry. But that's the future of the Eagles.
Yay?!
Its something I try to forget daily...sort of like Munson's existence when I visit the board...but to have it plastered out in a post in front of me....ugh.
Quote from: SD on July 18, 2010, 10:59:11 AM
The Eagles are run like the U.S. Government but on a smaller scale:
Lurie - Executive Branch
Reid - Legislative Branch
Banner - Judicial Branch
All check and no balance
i cant wait to nut in all your eyes when kolb kicks ass
Quote from: KDS on July 18, 2010, 11:04:15 PM
i cant wait to nut in all your eyes when kolb kicks ass
All being J/PG/munson...pretty sure everyone else is cool with kolb
(http://vietnameseworkersabroad.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/clipboard.jpg)
They made him the starter because he's not strong enough to hold a clipboard for 16 games.
i thought put pg posted a clipboard because that was her proposed protection against my eye-flying semen
pg is hard core on her cobb hate...i think ive underestimated it
the best part about it is its completely unfounded
there is literally no evidence whatsoever that suggests anything about kolb
yet pg has decided that hes gonna be terrible and since shes a crazy stubborn suburban mother thats the way it is gonna be
dont get me wrong pg is top 5 and legend, but this one is teamin her up with ***** and i dont think i need to explain what that means
And now is the part of the thread where IGY makes a comment, and MDS breaks it down for us.
IGY: grilled cheese is pretty good
MDS: its great when the cheese is just barely oozing out the sides and the top and bottom are a nice golden brown. not as dark as my last bowel movement, but darker than that mulatto who walked in the background of one episode of The Wire for two and a half seconds
im pretty sure i dont know what your psychotic ass is talking about but there are only two acceptable places to get a grilled cheese...your kitchen and a diner (where i always order 2)...the one big negative with grilled cheeses is that they cant fill you up...i could literally eat eight or nine and not be full
for example here is the list
top 5
1. phreak
2. pg
3. easy
4. havas
5. matty
top 5 weirdos
1. gf
2. n/a
bottom 5
1. ****
2. n/a
lol grilled cheese
pg is not going to be happy about her ranking
Great. Now I want a farging grilled cheese. Thanks.
howie mania running wild! (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100719_Howie_Roseman_relentlessly_pursued_NFL_dream.html)
he is a sick person
there is no end in sight
Quote from: SD on July 18, 2010, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: KDS on July 18, 2010, 11:04:15 PM
i cant wait to nut in all your eyes when kolb kicks ass
All being J/PG/munson...pretty sure everyone else is cool with kolb
Just because he has a weak ass arm and I don't think he can be "the guy" on a SB team doesn't mean I'm still on the hate train. I've come around to the hopeful side and overall I think he'll have decent numbers in the future
This year is more likely than not going to be a turnover fest though, and he's going to get murdered behind that oline.
Hopefully in a couple of years the FO can rebuild the defense and they can be a serious contender again.
You've come around on him but think he has a weak ass arm and is going to be a turnover machine? Sounds to me like you're still a hater.
Couple of scouting reports:
Quote
Arm strength is more than adequate and he has a very quick release...Strong and has a solid build...Protects the ball and has a good career TD / INT ratio...Durable and has a lot of experience...Solid athlete who can run a little and hurt defenses with his feet...Has everything you look for from an intangibles standpoint in terms of leadership, brains and work ethic...Extremely productive throughout his career.
2007 article from ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2958313
QuoteWhat the Eagles saw when they evaluated Kolb was a quarterback with plenty of college experience, having started 50 games, with a strong enough arm, nimble-enough feet, a feel for the game and loads of confidence.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/414742
QuoteThrows the long ball with adequate touch and accuracy, zips the posts and even when he passes off his back foot, he is still able to generate good velocity
QuoteCompares To: JAY CUTLER-Denver ... Before his senior season, Kolb was reminiscent of David Carr -- blessed with good arm strength, but too streaky in his performance. With added maturity, a trimmer body and a stronger arm, he has elevated his status to the top of the position.
To say his arm is not as strong as McNabb's would be accurate, to say it is weak is just being a hater. You don't need a rifle for an arm in the WCO, the ability to read a defense is the most important asset. Did you really think it was necessary for McNabb to gun 90 MPH fastballs to receivers that would watch it bounce out of their hands because their reaction time wasn't fast enough?
Regardless I'll take these legitimate scouting reports that say his arm is strong to adequate for the NFL over your 2 game evaluation.
Great Kolb shot:
(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/414742.jpg)
yeah i'm not getting the "weak ass arm" comment either.
look at the source...not sure why I even took the time to respond.
Quote from: SD on July 19, 2010, 04:39:55 PM
look at the source...not sure why I even took the time to respond.
you need to work on that.
anyone get the call that season tickets were available?
called the guy back and they are only $2850 per seat for the year.
what a bargain.
Damn right I think the guy starting for the first time is going to be a turnover machine, but the homer in me is hoping that this first year of experience as full time starter will help him grow when it comes to reading defenses/making quick decisions/not staring down his guy.
And I'm sorry I didn't realize hyperbole was a rarity around here. His arm is not strong (youtube the NO game and watch the few out routes he throws....feels like the ball is in the air forever...if Asante is a Saint in that game, that ball is hawked). Any CB that likes to jump out/slant/comeback routes is going to have a field day with him if he's still staring down his receiver/holding the ball too long because he doesn't have the arm strength to make up for it. If he can progress on those other, more important intangibles, the homer in me is getting a little excited.
I'm hoping for Aaron Rodgers at this point.
Quote from: Munson on July 19, 2010, 04:51:15 PM
I'm hoping for Aaron Rodgers at this point.
You're hoping for him to be one of the best young quarterbacks in the league? Weird.
Aaron Rodgers is still a 2nd tier guy at this point. Even the talking heads are talking about him "taking that next step" to be one of the best this year.
One poor throw on an out pattern in his first start and now he has a weak arm is what you're saying? Makes sense. Guess McNabb was a running QB his entire career because he only passed for 11 more yards than he rushed for his first start.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 19, 2010, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Munson on July 19, 2010, 04:51:15 PM
I'm hoping for Aaron Rodgers at this point.
You're hoping for him to be one of the best young quarterbacks in the league? Weird.
:-D
The thing is he does have some arc on the ball because he is not McNabb trying to impale a guy with the football....its called touch.
I'm hoping for Phillip Rivers. Crybabies fondly remind me of this board
Quote from: Munson on July 19, 2010, 04:55:30 PM
Aaron Rodgers is still a 2nd tier guy at this point.
58TD / 20 INT in 2 years doesn't exactly scream tier 2 to me.
yes, just one throw, wasn't the couple more out routes or the come back routes either. Just that one throw.
Diehard-Manning, Brady, Brees, and maybe even Roethlisburger are still above him, if anything because they do more then just put up gaudy regular season stats...Then you get into the Rivers, McNabb, Rodgers, etc....Which is probably as good as Kolb has a chance to get if he pans out. Good enough to carry a team to a SB? Eh...none of those guys have yet..
I give up
Westbrook was never injury prone either, remember.
Off field issues not withstanding, would you really take Rivers or Rodgers and their playoff record over Reothlisburger and his 2 SB wins?
Quote from: Munson on July 19, 2010, 05:03:36 PM
Then you get into the Rivers, McNabb, Rodgers, etc....Which is probably as good as Kolb has a chance to get if he pans out. Good enough to carry a team to a SB? Eh...none of those guys have yet..
of course big ben, brees and brady played every position.
Soooo those guys won SB's not because of their greatness, but because of their supporting cast...but McNabb never won and it was solely on him and had nothing to do with the slop he was constantly surrounded by?
Got you.
(I agree with you, those guys had great teams surrounding them...just funny when that gets brought up as a knock against them when we kill McNabb for not winning one with teams not nearly as good around him)
Just because guys may be "better than him" doesnt put him into "tier 2". I didnt know there was a cap put on each "tier". And what determines "better than" anyway?
In closing, I hate using quotes and now hate you for making me overuse them.
munson, may be that whole game ending int thingy but i could be wrong.
I don't think you "overused" them.
But if you really wanna put him in the same stratosphere as Manning and Brady, be my guest.
I just don't see him as the guy who will lead this team to a Super Bowl. I'm not talking about him having a noodle arm or anything like that.
The guy just oozes Bobby Hoying to me.
And oh my God, I hope he proves me to be dead wrong.
Great Kolb has a noble arm!
Who is this Cobb dude you're all talking about?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 19, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
I just don't see him as the guy who will lead this team to a Super Bowl. I'm not talking about him having a noodle arm or anything like that.
The guy just oozes Bobby Hoying to me.
And oh my God, I hope he proves me to be dead wrong.
There is no comparison to Bobby Hoying the two are completely different. I understand the fact that people use it as how he will be a bust. The thing is though if he is a bust it will be much worse than Hoying. Hoying wasn't replacing a perennial Pro Bowl QB.
Is it farging September yet?
yes...in just a few weeks, you'll be shoveling snow into your pickup truck bed
Quote from: Munson on July 19, 2010, 05:18:28 PM
But if you really wanna put him in the same stratosphere as Manning and Brady, be my guest.
I never said that..that's ridiculous. But there's a cute little place somewhere in between those two and the "tier 2" guys and that's where Rodgers is.
My initial and only point is saying that Rodgers is tier 2 QB (whatever the farg that is I dont know), like you did is ridiculous.
You're all tier 1 guys to me.[/wub]
This concept of wub disgusts and infuriates us!
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 19, 2010, 06:04:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 19, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
I just don't see him as the guy who will lead this team to a Super Bowl. I'm not talking about him having a noodle arm or anything like that.
The guy just oozes Bobby Hoying to me.
And oh my God, I hope he proves me to be dead wrong.
There is no comparison to Bobby Hoying the two are completely different. I understand the fact that people use it as how he will be a bust. The thing is though if he is a bust it will be much worse than Hoying. Hoying wasn't replacing a perennial Pro Bowl QB.
exactly
pg drinks the crazy juice, it how she rolls and its part of her charm. im done fighting with her about this, nothing is changing her view.
I don't see how, after just two games, you can compare Kolb to any player or really know anything about him. He had good games against NO and KC the second and third week of the season. I'll admit, he was good in those two starts, but it's still only two friggen' games.
the bobby hoying argument is so lazy
I think the point is he showed a lot of promise in those two starts. He pretty much torched the eventual Super Bowl champions in his first start in the NFL. Yeah, he made a couple of rookie mistakes that eventually cost them the game but he looked pretty goddamn good otherwise. Plus he'll have had a full training camp and preseason as the starter with this group of offensive weapons, which, less face it, are the best this team has ever seen potential-wise.
I also think the Hoying comparison is over the top. For one thing Kolb should be better if for no other reason than the weapons he has at his disposal are night and day better than Hoying's.
My Hoying comparison is just that people are so "OMG KOLB IS GOING TO LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND!" when he hasn't done shtein yet. He was a reach in the draft and the Eagles annointed a guy starter for a team that has never won shtein.
Again, my main issue here isn't so much Kolb as it is the FO doing what they do best(worst?)....reach. And then now we all have to put our faith in this guy. I just am not drinking the Kool Aid on it, sorry. Its not Kolb's fault, its the FO fault for giving him to us to finally win this city a Super Bowl.
Who here is acting like Kolb is Joe Montana?
People are skeptical but hopeful. Nothing wrong with that, IMO.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 20, 2010, 08:17:59 AM
My Hoying comparison is just that people are so "OMG KOLB IS GOING TO LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND!"
who is acting like that ?
Well, anytime I bring up the fact that I don't believe he's going to win the Eagles a Super Bowl, I get laughed at and put down that I am being nonsensical. So, that leads one to believe that if I believe that and am laughed at, those laughing are laughing because they believe he WILL win one for Philly.
Do I really need to explain this? lol
How about this. I don't believe that any QB will lead this team to a superbowl while Reid is the coach.
Still excited to see someone other than McNabb under center this year.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 09:21:54 AM
How about this. I don't believe that any QB will lead this team to a superbowl while Reid is the coach.
Still excited to see someone other than McNabb under center this year.
^ this.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 09:21:54 AM
How about this. I don't believe that any QB will lead this team to a superbowl while Reid is the coach.
Still excited to see someone other than McNabb under center this year.
exactly
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 20, 2010, 09:06:19 AM
Well, anytime I bring up the fact that I don't believe he's going to win the Eagles a Super Bowl, I get laughed at and put down that I am being nonsensical. So, that leads one to believe that if I believe that and am laughed at, those laughing are laughing because they believe he WILL win one for Philly.
Do I really need to explain this? lol
it is completely non sensical to make a blanket statement that cobb will never win a superbowl before really seeing him play
but i still think that is more sensical than saying that anyone who thinks youre being non sensical by saying it automatically must think cobb
will win a superbowl
make sense?
not great qb's that have a ring
mark rypien
trent dilfer
eli manning
doug williams
jeff hostetler
low round or undrafted qb's that have a ring
tom brady
kurt warner
rypien
qb's that have made a superbowl
rex grossman
stan humphries
jake delohmme
kerry collins
chris chandler
throw all the above names into a blender pulse 12-15 times and what you get is saying
right now that kevin cobb cant win a superbowl is non sensical
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 09:21:54 AM
How about this. I don't believe that any QB will lead this team to a superbowl while Reid is the coach.
Still excited to see someone other than McNabb under center this year.
Eagles fans are all about extremes, Kolb is either going to suck hugely and rape our children or he's going take us to the Promised Land with BJ's & six-packs.
The majority of people that I talk to about Kolb just parrot out the fan party line about him being scared and weak-armed based upon 2 starts, so I'm not seeing the love that PG is.
Personally, I think he'll be slightly above average and I'm excited to see a non-McNabb QB also. I'm more excited to see this year's team than I was the past 2 years.
I agree that Reid/Banner are the main reasons that they won't win a SB.
But THEY are the ones who put Kolb in the position he is in.
So...again...FO. They are my problem. Kolb is just a product of their idiocy.
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/19/bass-fishing-with-kevin-kolb-part-one-the-quarterbacks-shot-a/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002
QuoteThe quarterback slipped off one of his boots – this is why real outdoorsmen wear them – attached it to the end of a stick that he picked from the ground and dangled it in front of the hissing western diamondback. The rattlesnake struck the boot. The boot danced and the snake struck again. And again. Nearly 10 times the snake attacked the boot. Until, finally, the snake recoiled and lay lifeless on the ground. What do you know? It worked. That show on the Discovery Channel reported that a rattlesnake will play dead when prey doesn't fall victim to its spectacular bite. So the quarterback reached down and plucked the rattlesnake by its neck and held it out. With his other hand, he retrieved the .38 caliber handgun fastened to his hip and fired a round into the rattler's head. He then used his favorite pocketknife to cut off the rattles. Thirteen of them!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 20, 2010, 09:54:44 AM
But THEY are the ones who put Kolb in the position he is in.
what position is that?
id say hes almost in the ultimate position for a first year starter...works for a coach who drafted him and gave him the time it takes to earn a college degree to learn the offense....has a good team around him with young weapons he can grow with
if cobb fails he really has no one to blame but himself
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 20, 2010, 09:54:56 AM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/19/bass-fishing-with-kevin-kolb-part-one-the-quarterbacks-shot-a/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002
QuoteThe quarterback slipped off one of his boots – this is why real outdoorsmen wear them – attached it to the end of a stick that he picked from the ground and dangled it in front of the hissing western diamondback. The rattlesnake struck the boot. The boot danced and the snake struck again. And again. Nearly 10 times the snake attacked the boot. Until, finally, the snake recoiled and lay lifeless on the ground. What do you know? It worked. That show on the Discovery Channel reported that a rattlesnake will play dead when prey doesn't fall victim to its spectacular bite. So the quarterback reached down and plucked the rattlesnake by its neck and held it out. With his other hand, he retrieved the .38 caliber handgun fastened to his hip and fired a round into the rattler's head. He then used his favorite pocketknife to cut off the rattles. Thirteen of them!
farging A. No Campbell's Chunky soup bullshtein for this motherfarger.
Say what you want about his game, dude seems like he'd be fun as hell to hang out with. Mcnabb would bore you to death. Kolb's off the field personality is like Favre except he's not a drama queen
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 20, 2010, 09:54:56 AM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/19/bass-fishing-with-kevin-kolb-part-one-the-quarterbacks-shot-a/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002
QuoteThe quarterback slipped off one of his boots – this is why real outdoorsmen wear them – attached it to the end of a stick that he picked from the ground and dangled it in front of the hissing western diamondback. The rattlesnake struck the boot. The boot danced and the snake struck again. And again. Nearly 10 times the snake attacked the boot. Until, finally, the snake recoiled and lay lifeless on the ground. What do you know? It worked. That show on the Discovery Channel reported that a rattlesnake will play dead when prey doesn't fall victim to its spectacular bite. So the quarterback reached down and plucked the rattlesnake by its neck and held it out. With his other hand, he retrieved the .38 caliber handgun fastened to his hip and fired a round into the rattler's head. He then used his favorite pocketknife to cut off the rattles. Thirteen of them!
farging A. No Campbell's Chunky soup bullshtein for this motherfarger.
I expected that article to end with him fashioning a condom out of the snake's body and cornholing a bull with it.
Bulls are dudes, dude.
(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/503312/kolbboot_medium.jpg)
Hahahaha.
lol
Kolb is like John Marston
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 10:16:10 AM
Bulls are dudes, dude.
Right, that's what I was going for.
Any guy can farg a cow, it takes a man to have anal sex with a bull.
I'm not sure what to say to that but I like where your head's at.
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 20, 2010, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 10:16:10 AM
Bulls are dudes, dude.
Right, that's what I was going for.
Any guy can farg a cow, it takes a man to have anal sex with a bull.
finally, a guy that sees the big picture.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 20, 2010, 10:24:40 AM
I'm not sure what to say to that but I like where your head's at.
.........which is up a bull's ass.
Beermonkey is back :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 20, 2010, 10:44:30 AM
Beermonkey is back :yay
I only just realized a few weeks ago that this site is still up.
Once the Eagles start losing and the bitchiness gets out of control, I'll be back to masturbating to Hentai sites.
(http://phillysportscenter.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/andyreid2.jpg)
And suddenly I understand why frat boys draw penises on sleeping people.
anyone else get the call to join the live conference call with howie roseman and jamaal jackson?
LOL yeah
Quote from: phattymatty on July 20, 2010, 06:15:14 PM
anyone else get the call to join the live conference call with howie roseman and jamaal jackson?
Yeah...I thought they were going to offer me season tickets. bastiches.
I wonder if IGY took 'em up on the offer. I bet he'd love to talk to Howie.
75 days until d-day
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100721_Christina_Lurie_helped_shape_the_Eagles_vision.html
"I don't think either of us had a clue what it meant to own a team," Christina said. "You know, he had a really strong sense of the game, and I definitely did not. I mean, I understood if you were watching on television, but having not grown up with it, I didn't know all the intricacies. But I don't think either of us really knew what it meant, especially about owning a team that's Philadelphia-based. This city is so intense about their teams, all teams - but especially, I think, football.
"It's been an interesting road. It's been a really exciting road, but it's been an interesting road. We both learned a lot on site."Like how Philadelphians love their hoagies. And how they loved kelly green. Not that that mattered.
"When we bought the team, Jeffrey and I were like, 'We can't live with the kelly green color.' "
DIE
:-D
:boom
QuoteNot that that mattered.
the customer is never right.
as if there wasnt enough reason to want to throw a hotdog at the box mrs lurie sits in.
Quote from: smeags on July 21, 2010, 10:05:24 AM
as if there wasnt enough reason to want to throw a hotdog hand grenade at the box mrs lurie sits in.
Quote from: Rome on July 21, 2010, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: smeags on July 21, 2010, 10:05:24 AM
as if there wasnt enough reason to want to throw a hotdog hand grenade at the box mrs lurie sits in.
that would be grenade abuse sir.
the thing is if you read the whole piece the women on the surface seems to be a really good person and has done a lot of outstanding things with the organization....but to simply abolish the teams beloved color for no other reason than you dont like it is sickening...i mean you could even understand if they did it for money...
and even worse than switching it is not to have identified your mistake and fixed it sometime over the last 15 years
she speaks about the fans like we are pheasants in the kingdom. "We both learned a lot on site."Like how Philadelphians love their hoagies. And how they loved kelly green. Not that that mattered."
She amused at the simple people and what they love.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 21, 2010, 08:42:30 AM
Not that that mattered.
"When we bought the team, Jeffrey and I were like, 'We can't live with the kelly green color.' "[/i]
This Matters Bitch!
(http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://images.bleedinggreennation.com/images/admin/brownjerome4ow6.jpg&sa=X&ei=qQ9HTIrvHYzZnAeL0IjlAw&ved=0CAQQ8wc4Ag&usg=AFQjCNFVjcShB-LsHS5wFGOoBsp8AWqg_g)
P.S. why not the Kelly Green with the full-bird on the shoulder?
Quote from: SunMo on July 21, 2010, 11:18:45 AM
she speaks about the fans like we are pheasants in the kingdom. "We both learned a lot on site." Like how Philadelphians love their hoagies. And how they loved kelly green. Not that that mattered."
She amused at the simple people and what they love.
to be fair christina was quoted as saying this: We both learned a lot on site.
ashley fox then interjected this: Like how Philadelphians love their hoagies. And how they loved kelly green. Not that that mattered.
and then followed that with another cristina quote: "When we bought the team, Jeffrey and I were like, 'We can't live with the kelly green color.' "
mrs lurie didnt actually say the hoagie kelly green not that it mattered thing
oh ok...my rage has vanished now
i didnt know we were Pheasants?
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/3AcWZYOvdb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AcWZYOvdb8
Quote from: SunMo on July 21, 2010, 11:38:48 AM
oh ok...my rage has vanished now
its still ridiculous and for the record when i first read it i had to do a double take on it...its terrible writing by fox...
if she
had actually said that i would have made a new thread as it would have been worse than anything banner has ever said
yeah, i couldn't believe no one was reacting...i guess they figured it out and i didn't
dummie
Yeah, but no one mentions yesterday that Lurie is only a Jewish person by heritage now, after getting kicked out of his barmitsfah class for listening to the Red Sox? BIG NEWS
if it matters i love that lurie basically has basically become an atheist
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 21, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
if it matters i love that lurie basically has basically become an atheist
Basically he basically is a Godless person, basically.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_bring_in_Arena_receiver_for_workout.html
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 21, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_bring_in_Arena_receiver_for_workout.html
Quote
COLLEGE
Was named first-team all-conference his final season at Western New Mexico. Logged 81 receptions for 1,118 yards and six touchdowns that year after making the switch to wide receiver. Was named RMAC/Rawlings Player of the week in his final collegiate game, racking up 17 receptions for 177 yards and two scores. Also won the award in Week 3 of that same season. Led the team in both passing and rushing yards in 2006 as the team's quarterback. Had a 118.61 QB efficiency with 1361 yards and 10 touchdowns against eight interceptions. Also rushed for 886 yards and six touchdowns on 138 carries. Started his collegiate career at Garden City Community College.
This guy is clearly being brought in as Vick's wildcat replacement.
garden city CC in da house yo.
Christina Lurie looks like a farging dude.
Rage back on...
8 part series, eh?
is marty next?
banner today.....the profile pretty much sums up banner exactly how you imagine him...tortured nerdy child turns into bitter napoleonic adult
the opening story that trys to somehow counteract the rest of the piece is hilarious and a complete lie but it probably was required to be included or else banner wouldnt have agreed to the interviews
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100722_Little_Big_Man.html
didnt they already do banner?
so that little dweeb gets 2 fluff pieces done about him? good lord with him and rube and stefanski running the teams in town this is gonna be a long ass decade.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 22, 2010, 09:28:39 AM
banner today.....the profile pretty much sums up banner exactly how you imagine him...tortured nerdy child turns into bitter napoleonic adult
the opening story that trys to somehow counteract the rest of the piece is hilarious and a complete lie but it probably was required to be included or else banner wouldnt have agreed to the interviews
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100722_Little_Big_Man.html
Even if it is true, it's still a sissybitch move except in bar fights when you have the guy walk out the door ahead of you so you can start throwing fistapults before he can turn around
(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/418974/joebanner1.jpg)
"You talkin to me"
(http://www.untoldentertainment.com/blog/img/2009_04_07/revengeOfTheNerds.jpg)
NERDS !
Decent article on the safety position, sounds like Demps has taken his head out of his ass. As far as safe picks go I think Nate Allen is can't miss, I'm not saying he's the next Ed Reed/Dawkins but I'll be surprised if he's a bust and not a solid contributor at some point in his career
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100722_Eagles_again_try_to_find_a_replacement_for_Dawkins.html
Quote from: Tomahawk on July 22, 2010, 11:13:10 AM
Even if it is true, it's still a sissybitch move except in bar fights when you have the guy walk out the door ahead of you so you can start throwing fistapults before he can turn around
I was waiting for that story to end with:
1) He pushed him down the stairs
2) He shut and locked the door until the other kid agreed to pay 150% of the value of the toy.
Am I the only one who laughed at "fistapults"?
Eagles have a big announcement at 3pm....what about?
please be the jeff garcia welcoming presser.
They are announcing a contest to watch a game in the nude with Joe Banner and SD's aunt.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 22, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Eagles have a big announcement at 3pm....what about?
Andy Reid is dead and Banner is being named head coach.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 22, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Eagles have a big announcement at 3pm....what about?
They're just going to remind eveyone of the phils losing 6 or 7 since the all star break
They got Oswalt, just to steal the thunder?
Maybe they've signed TO.
Patton Oswalt?
Quote from: rjs246 on July 22, 2010, 01:51:58 PM
Maybe they've signed TO.
Your last 2 posts are bannable.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 22, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
Eagles have a big announcement at 3pm....what about?
they are putting real fans on the 2010 tickets....starting four new tv shows this fall and unveling a new digital magazine
really? Thats what they are announcing?
^-^
thats my guess.....its clearly not anything important....it would have already been on twitter
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 22, 2010, 01:56:07 PM
really? Thats what they are announcing?
^-^
maybe they're going to apologize for the autodialing cold call they sent out to get you to listen to their conference call the other day?
free butt sex with christina lurie?
Free butt sex with TO?
more completely unfunny responses from everyone would be neat
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 22, 2010, 02:08:17 PM
more completely unfunny responses from everyone would be neat
irony.
Sorry... how about:
who cares about the presser, Munson is a white trash hick licker...
Free butt sex with IGY?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 22, 2010, 02:08:17 PM
more completely unfunny responses from everyone would be neat
nick bakay
izel jenkins is the new db's coach.
They're unveiling a new fight song.
christina lurie shaved her balls today.
Quote from: phattymatty on July 22, 2010, 03:02:45 PM
christina lurie shaved her balls today.
that would mean less hair stuck in your teeth right ?
She sent him pics from her phone.
he must FWD: :paranoid
so, greg cosell feels the eagles will be a wildcard team in 2010.
According Forbes the Eagles are the 11th most valuable franchise in the world. They're worth 1.18 Billion dollars and generate $250 million in annual revenue. Manchester United is ranked #1. Here's the complete list:
http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/20/most-valuable-athletes-and-teams-business-sports-sportsmoney-fifty-fifty-teams_slide_2.html
11th in the world, 4th in the NFC East
Ha - every team in the East is more valuable.
congrats to mr. lurie, mrs. lurie, joseph, howie and the rest of the eagles organization. the gold standard, the best roster in the nfl, a true class operation through and through. this is what they should strive for.
How the hell are the Houston Texans so high up there?
They play in Houston
You're obviously using the loosest definition of play.
people in Texas are stupid and like to buy stuff. Houston is a giant cesspool full of Texans.
And Texans are stupid crazy for football as evidenced in Friday Night Lights. Plus, Andre Johnson is the best WR in football.
don't forget hank hill.
must have been a great announcement
http://eagleshavelanded.com/2010/07/22/eagles-to-announce-fan-friendly-marketing-plan/
I'm so happy to be an Eagles fan.
i better not see that shoulder pad dickface on my ticket.
Quote from: SunMo on July 22, 2010, 05:04:25 PM
must have been a great announcement
seriously, what was it.
basically what igy said about the tickets stubs having fans on them
I saw several new pages added and got a little excited. how anti climatic. I feel like I just got blue balls. time to go surprise my girl's mouth with a tasty treat.
Snickers bar?
it did get a little lumpy since I started banging her.
Got our Eagles tickets in the mail today.
Did you get your Bucs tickets yet?
Salty today. Someone raise your taxes? Victim of reverse racism?
someone mistook him for a Mexican
He was expected to actually work for a living?
he was probably doing some yard work and the rest just fell in place
I told him not to carry around that bag of oranges.
just got home and looked over the package they sent. pretty decent black tote bag packed with the usual coupons, a fairly cool 8 x 10 collage of the 1960 team and the tickets. the tickets do have eagles fans stories & photos which are fairly lame, but who cares... it's just tickets.
so were at brunch at famous on sunday (great matzo ball soup btw) and i got the sports section with me. big picture of 5 at taterskins signing thing on the front.
i hold it up for the sis and ask what legendary tv dad does he look like. she pauses for 3 seconds and says "carl winslow."
(http://www.sproutblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/cwinslow.jpg) (http://thestartingfive.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/alg_taterskins_donovan_mcnabb.jpg)
5's also beginning to waddle like carl, too.
I don't see it at all.
Racist.
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
the tickets do have eagles fans stories & photos which are fairly lame, but who cares... it's just tickets.
you ain't a real fan till you run into a burning building to save your tickets.
recognize bitch.
the tickets are fairly priceless considering they can't be replaced.
Quote from: Rome on July 27, 2010, 08:59:09 AM
the tickets are fairly priceless considering they can't be replaced.
too bad nobody told that guy you can simply go to the ticket office with your account info. but hey, he's a real american hero.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Birds_Release_AHall_to_Make_Room_for_Allen.html
Sheldon Brown deal was a fantastic one.
:boom
he was a throw in...the picks were what the deal was all about
trevard lindley and rickey sapp for your lover and the engineer
From day of trade: "Hall could be the strong-side linebacker the Eagles have lacked since Carlos Emmons exited after the 2003 season."
i definitely believe everything teams say about players they acquire
Gold standard.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
he was a throw in...the picks were what the deal was all about
trevard lindley and rickey sapp for your lover and the engineer
I'd still make that trade in a hearbeat. 99% of Eagles fans knew Hall wasn't going to make the opening day roster
LOL that PG thought he was the answer. He's just another player, no biggy. Getting Ernie Simms in a separate trade and Ricky Sapp makes it worth it
Quote from: SD on July 28, 2010, 08:56:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
he was a throw in...the picks were what the deal was all about
trevard lindley and rickey sapp for your lover and the engineer
I'd still make that trade in a hearbeat. 99% of Eagles fans knew Hall wasn't going to make the opening day roster
mos def....gocong blows and sheldon will be done by the time the eagles are ready to compete
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 28, 2010, 08:58:14 AM
LOL that PG thought he was the answer. He's just another player, no biggy. Getting Ernie Simms in a separate trade and Ricky Sapp makes it worth it
I don't think she thought he was the answer. That was the story the Birds were pimping as an excuse for trading Sheldon.
yeah, but they do that for everything. Its like they have the same mad libs form to fill in when Player A is traded for X in return.
Yes, I thought Alex Hall was the answer.
That was not my comment, hence the quotation marks. :-D
I got 2 hours of sleep last night so i'm a bit off today. FML
pg, why did you think Alex Hall would be a pro bowler this year?
Your "no shtein" statement of the day, brought to you by Turkey Hill is:
QuoteReid says Alex Hall can be good as an OLB in a 3-4. Didn't fit system. That's why he was cut.
well duh...when they got him i said he was too big to work at the sam...a guy at 260 lbs is not running with te's
wip keeps replaying a clip of donovan saying that winning the super bowl is a great achievement but it shouldn't define someone's career. hugh douglas gets more and more pissed each time they play it...good times.
if it defines dan marinos career....a 1000 times better qb....then it farging defines donovan mcnabbs career....
the guy just never stops saying dumb shtein...thats almost worse than his successful season comment after last year
We showed our youth today
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
if it defines dan marinos career....a 1000 times better qb....then it farging defines donovan mcnabbs career....
the guy just never stops saying dumb shtein...thats almost worse than his successful season comment after last year
"I'm sorry we didn't go 16-0"
The Eagles worked out Kelley Washington and Jarrett Perry (who?) today.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
if it defines dan marinos career....a 1000 times better qb....then it farging defines donovan mcnabbs career....
the guy just never stops saying dumb shtein...thats almost worse than his successful season comment after last year
I thought the true low point was when he admitted he didn't know the rules for overtime.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on July 29, 2010, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
if it defines dan marinos career....a 1000 times better qb....then it farging defines donovan mcnabbs career....
the guy just never stops saying dumb shtein...thats almost worse than his successful season comment after last year
I thought the true low point was when he admitted he didn't know the rules for overtime.
Agreed. That was absolutely inexcusable. It's not like it's some obscure rule that comes into play every 10 years or so that most people don't even know about. If you've even been so much as a casual fan of the NFL for the last 30 years, then you know that a game can end in a tie.
the sad part really is that there are so many too choose from.
even sadder is many people here wanted to give him an extension
SERIOUSLY
obviously big fans of the movie groundhogs day.
Quote from: smeags on July 29, 2010, 12:03:38 PM
obviously big fans of the movie groundhogs day.
I could watch that movie over and over again.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 29, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: smeags on July 29, 2010, 12:03:38 PM
obviously big fans of the movie groundhogs day.
I could watch that movie over and over again.
pun excellence
The Giants got HOF Alex Hall off of waivers.
Blue Cooper waived to make room for Brandon Graham after he signed tonight.
You're my boy, Blue!
No one thought of that
Here's how bad of a joke it is...
I thought of it, and DIDN'T post it.
Well, damn.
lol why is it a joke?
It was me feeling like posting the line that came to mind. Sunny mo finding it funny or not is irrelevant.
The density between your ears is either too high or too low. Something is truly wrong.
Lorraine, you're my density.
oh
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/moving_the_chains/Photos_Eagles_players_and_their_cars.html
a lot of pick ups in there
my top three of the bunch:
wost manneans (blacked out wheels are tuff)
j mac (classy, comfortable, and more capable off road than any other truck in the set, except perhaps the hummer, though with the idiot wheels LeSean spooned onto it, the Rover may have the edge)
capn morgan - classy, comfortable, understated, refined. Just like the man behind the wheel.
worst three
LeSean - just about the most stupid vehicle ever. Screams "I am a douchebag" to everyone else on the road.
Hank - a Chrysler? Really? Pimped out by some Las Vegas latinos or something? Awful
MJG - How original. Color coded wheels match the worst color that behemoth is available in, corinthian leather red.
My favs,
Patterson, the new Dodges are real nice looking and have engines that shut down 4 cylinders when you're cruising.
Bell, I love the Chrysler 300 and his is a nice color.
Worst,
Parker, McCoy, Andrews. Why do guys buy these big ass trucks, have them lifted only to put those Hoyda ass low profile tires on them?? It looks like the garage was out of real tires and put those on as a last resort to get down the road. Put some goddamn 12:50 BF Goodrich's on them bitches.
MacLin, MJG, and Herremans, BAAARRRFFFFF!
Is Herreman's the same truck he got busted in, only repainted white?
No that was a black A-team looking van
Sheil's Civic is the best.
lol @ Joe Mays - p\/\/nt
Quote from: Diomedes on August 01, 2010, 07:43:31 AM
a lot of pick ups in there
my top three of the bunch:
wost manneans (blacked out wheels are tuff)
j mac (classy, comfortable, and more capable off road than any other truck in the set, except perhaps the hummer, though with the idiot wheels LeSean spooned onto it, the Rover may have the edge)
capn morgan - classy, comfortable, understated, refined. Just like the man behind the wheel.
worst three
LeSean - just about the most stupid vehicle ever. Screams "I am a douchebag" to everyone else on the road.
Hank - a Chrysler? Really? Pimped out by some Las Vegas latinos or something? Awful
MJG - How original. Color coded wheels match the worst color that behemoth is available in, corinthian leather red.
Hummers are lumps of shtein. The only ones worth a damn are the H1s, the military types with the diesels. The one in the photo is basically a Chevy Suburban with different panels. The Range Rover will embarrass pretty much everything short of a Jeep.
LeSean's car is exactly what you'd expect from a kid who just got paid. He isn't old enough to have developed a sense of taste. Wost's Chevy is the shtein. farging thing looks like some kind of SWAT/Cop rig.
As though I needed another reason to despise Andy Reid. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/08/01/mmqb/3.html)
QuoteHalf of the coaches in the NFC East -- Wade Phillips, Andy Reid -- are teetotalers.
This is not to say Tom Coughlin or Mike Shanahan are heavy drinkers. They're not -- not at all. Coughlin likes a good Bordeaux, Shanahan an occasional Corona. I just find it interesting that in the rough-and-tumble NFC East, the coaches in Philadelphia and Dallas (where quite a few adult beverages are consumed) eschew all alcohol and favor diet cola (Phillips) and water (Reid).
I don't trust anyone that can't or won't take a drink.
Reid feeds his other addiction which is food, I'm sure he catches a buzz after a good cheesesteak.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 02, 2010, 09:05:08 AMI don't trust anyone that can't or won't take a drink.
This is a maxim to live by, if you add an exception for those people who stopped because they couldn't handle drink and it was ruining their lives.
Not joking, I will teach my children this.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on June 15, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
Didn't get a ticket, but I WILL be attending an Eagles home game this season.
Boom! Atlanta.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 02, 2010, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 02, 2010, 09:05:08 AMI don't trust anyone that can't or won't take a drink.
This is a maxim to live by, if you add an exception for those people who stopped because they couldn't handle drink and it was ruining their lives.
Not joking, I will teach my children this.
I thought you weren't going to procreate.
He also wasn't going to buy condoms or wire hangers. Something had to give.
I wasn't.
Then I changed my mind.
Now I have one, and he's going to burn the world down.
Utero Rooter that's the name and away go the troubles down the drain.
You rape 'em, we scrape 'em!
:-D
haha
Quote from: Diomedes on August 02, 2010, 07:20:50 PM
You rape 'em, we scrape 'em!
Jesus Christ. I still laughed, but Christ....
Quote from: Diomedes on August 02, 2010, 07:16:31 PM
I wasn't.
Then I changed my mind.
Now I have one, and he's going to burn the world down.
I'm farging rooting for him, man.
Oh. And yes. I laughed.
banner and the mid day boys (really macnow) just went at it hardcore over vick...it was actually pretty uncomfortable and im certain that if it was an in studio interview there would have been a fistfight
wow shocking comments from banner....he just said they traded mcnabb to the skins as a favor to him...that while it wasnt appreciably different the skins offer was not the best out there.....then he actually admits they are worried about being wrong to trade him in the division
nice. you know banner is screaming at station management right now over it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2010, 12:22:37 PM
wow shocking comments from banner....he just said they traded mcnabb to the skins as a favor to him...that while it wasnt appreciably different the skins offer was not the best out there.....then he actually admits they are worried about being wrong to trade him in the division
jesus farging christ.
on a scale of 1-10 my interest in banner talking to the clowns at wip rates at minus 37.
Quote from: Rome on August 03, 2010, 12:27:32 PM
on a scale of 1-10 my interest in banner talking to the clowns at wip rates at minus 37.
i would typically agree but after hearing his comments on the mcnabb trade i am saddened that hiring a hitman is illeagal.
it was easily his best interview hes ever given...and when i say best i mean interesting and substantive
i cant even believe the mcnabb comments
seriously, WTF is that ?
I think it's awesome that they 'did McNabb a favor' but have a fairly long track record of being hard nosed and treating other players like garbage. That's neat.
hahahahahaha - banner - "i didn't know about an altercation involving vick in the off-season" .... :-D
forget in the division or it being mcnabb....the president of the philadelphia eagles just admitted on air that they knowingly and purposely traded a player for less than they could have gotten
thats just crazy to me
that is disgusting. seriously, unbelievable.
i guess joey thought the commish was coming to talk to vick today so they exchange southern recipes ?
callers are absolutely livid over the vick comments and now taking their anger on cuz and macnow
people are burying the lead imo....the vick answers as ridiculous as they are were expected and were classic banner inc arrogance
the mcnabb comments were completely out of nowhere...were actually brutally honest and sort of refreshing and most of all almost unbelievable
wait so banner acted as if nothing happened to vick in the offseason and admitted that he traded mcnabb to washington as a personal favor to him, knowing he could have gotten more elsewhere?
this is shocking how?
I though he, or someone else from the team, had said before that there were better offers out there than what the taterskins offered?
Quote from: charlie on August 03, 2010, 01:08:04 PM
I though he, or someone else from the team, had said before that there were better offers out there than what the taterskins offered?
Yes, that was the team stance all along. Not sure if it was Reid or Roseman, but they said that they had at least one better offer on the table but that McNabb preferred to go to Washington, so they made it happen.
link please as the only thing i heard was there were other "comparable" offers. not better.
yeah thats definitely never been said publically...and certainly not by banner on wip
hard to imagine that this city's fanbase would let this slide when they still crush amaro over the lee trade. at least rubes didnt give it time to hear the other offers to know any better.
lee trade is one million times worse...its not even a remote comparison
im not even mad at the mcnabb trade...i actually think its kind of a cool thing to do as long as the offers werent grossly different and all indications are that they werent....i just cant believe banner admitted it on radio
wrong but that's ok.
You guys should continue to jerk each other off.
While I agree that it is weird that Banner would admit it flat-out (and I'd love to see the transcript), Reid said basically the same thing the day of the trade:
Quote"This was a decision that we thought was best for Donovan and, at the same time, the compensation was right for us," Reid said. "We certainly took into consideration Donovan's feelings here. ... We wanted to inevitably do what was good for us and good for Donovan."
"
BEST" for Donovan
"
RIGHT" for the Eagles
Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=5057099)
not even close to saying it wasnt the best offer....that just reid saying i like donovan a lot which we already knew
Quote from: KDS on August 03, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
wait so banner acted as if nothing happened to vick in the offseason and admitted that he traded mcnabb to washington as a personal favor to him, knowing he could have gotten more elsewhere?
this is shocking how?
this times a billion.
you guys have not listened to many job banner interviews over the years if you dont find this shocking
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
you guys have not listened to many job banner interviews over the years if you dont find this shocking
why in god's name would i ever listen to that d-bag?
Quote from: Rome on August 03, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
you guys have not listened to many job banner interviews over the years if you dont find this shocking
why in god's name would i ever listen to that d-bag?
I was pretty much going to say this, I can say with pretty high certianty that I have never listened to one of his interviews. I can't stand the guy, why would i listen to him?
The "news" about trading McNabb to the skins as a favor to McNabb isn't shocking at all. That was being discussed within hours after the trade went down, but it was pretty much just heresay, speculation and message board fodder.
But for Banner to publicly state that they made a decision based on emotion (favor to McNabb) rather than the best interest of the team (trading him within the division along with turning down comparable/better offers) is absolutely shocking. He's not telling us anything we didn't already suspect. But the fact that he is admitting it is mind blowing.
This is the team that puts dollars and cents above all. They have a cold, shrewd corporate approach in the way that they do business and the McNabb trade was a complete 180 from the way they normally operate.
can't question the nerd standard.
Its been common knowledge that they traded McNabb to the farging shteinheads down 95 because that is what he wanted. And its what incenses me the most.
Anyways, what were Macnow and CUZ getting into it with him about with Vick? More details.
I don't see what the big deal is. You get the best return, and weaken the taterskins in the process. McNabb isn't good anymore.
Quote from: King Cole on August 03, 2010, 11:04:26 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. You get the best return, and weaken the taterskins in the process. McNabb isn't good anymore.
so what part of banner saying there were better offers did you not undestand ?
first two questions of the state of the team address softballs asked by eagle employees
let me guess - so are excited about the upcoming season jeff ?
luries vick answer is so sensible...especially compared to that of banner...why doesnt this guy speak more and that rat less
so did jeff hear about a shooting at vick's party ?
he said hes not going to cast a guy aside simply for the bad judgment of having the party with the absence of any actual wrongdoing
mentioned how america incarcerates a higher % of its citizens than any other in the world and we need to find out why people make bad decisions and lend people support for them rather than look to bury them for good because of past mistakes....
which is really what everyone did with vick and the party...the people who already hated him for the dogfighting wanted to use this thing to end him for good and lurie wasnt going to fall for that
lurie is such an awesome person...a true bleeding heart brotha....its just awful he has to be long time friends with such a douche
well to be fair to those that wanted vick gone over the party situation, lurie is the one who made the "zero tolerance" comment and let's face it, the only reason vick isn't facing more crap over this is the fact that all the witnesses went hood and refused to say anything.
but hey. let's give vick more support. more people around him so he doesn't make anymore bad judgement cause the eagles certainly couldn't afford to lose him.
he did something stupid, not illegal. zero tolerance doesn't apply, why is this so hard for people to understand?
Quote from: SunMo on August 04, 2010, 12:20:07 PM
he did something stupid, not illegal. zero tolerance doesn't apply, why is this so hard for people to understand?
BECAUSE HE KILLED DOGGIES, DAMN IT!
FRY HIM!
Quote from: smeags on August 04, 2010, 12:16:31 PM
well to be fair to those that wanted vick gone over the party situation, lurie is the one who made the "zero tolerance" comment and let's face it, the only reason vick isn't facing more crap over this is the fact that all the witnesses went hood and refused to say anything.
theres so many things terribly awful about this post that its actually impressive
Quote from: Rome on August 04, 2010, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: SunMo on August 04, 2010, 12:20:07 PM
he did something stupid, not illegal. zero tolerance doesn't apply, why is this so hard for people to understand?
BECAUSE HE KILLED DOGGIES, DAMN IT!
this and/or its people who hate banner inc and want to use vick as a way to go off on them
IMO Banner traded McNabb to "rehab." public perception after all the bumbling culminating in the the Dawkins - Brown fiasco's. The Lurie/Banner standard is "gold" and somehow they believe they will make more by showing their not all about money.... :puke
wouldnt trading mcnabb show they are about money since he was caking off this year and was ready for a new deal
in the same vein they gave cobb an extension that gave him 20 times more money than he would have made this year
the eagles aren't cheap. just don't always make the right decisions with the money they spend.
they dont toss money around as much as they should but their problems are much more philosophical than monotary
McNabb is gone. He plays for the Washington taterskins. They play in the same division as the Eagles.
Seriously, get over it already.
:o
Quote from: smeags on August 04, 2010, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: King Cole on August 03, 2010, 11:04:26 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. You get the best return, and weaken the taterskins in the process. McNabb isn't good anymore.
so what part of banner saying there were better offers did you not undestand ?
The part where he said there were better offers. If he said that. I didn't hear it for myself.
thinly veiled 5 shot?
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Stewart Bradley on the personalities of DeSean Jackson and Asante Samuel: "They're great guys and fun to play with. They're high volume guys and we like that. DeSean has a lot of fun trash-talking and stuff and that's his personality. I think that's the most important thing is that guys are honest and true to their personalities without trying to be something they're not."
No
ha everything is a shot. these guys arent smart enough to do that.
SRO tickets go on sale at 10am today
classic
http://www.myphl17.com/sports/baseball/phillies/myphl17-fan-spotlight/superfan/
That dude was out of breath before he even started.
that's all the good kind of fat.
I actually agree. But I could pretty much see his organs straining to function the instant his face showed up on the screen.
seems like he could hold it down at a tailgate.
I'd say invite him to C 6 but I enjoy groveling over your leftovers
;D
So, wost manneans is back and in the starting lineup. And Jamaal Jackson is rumored to be better than 50/50 for the start of the regular season. Good.
Jackson @ 50% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cole or McGlynn @ 100%
Jackson better take a few snaps with with McGlynn's wife.
...or SD's aunt.
Akers is hurt. Rocca was kicking FG's in practice.
Great now this team will be like Munson in high school and won't be able to score period
He has a sore heel.
Is heel slang for jayjay?
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 23, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
Great now this team will be like Munson in high school and won't be able to score period
I'm supposed to try to score their periods? No wonder I couldn't get any...
REDWINGS!!!!
Gross.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100824_McNabb_airs_his_take_on_long_Eagles_run.html
QuoteDonovan McNabb complained to Eagles head coach Andy Reid and owner Jeffrey Lurie that "no one in the organization ever stepped up and said anything" about the criticism the quarterback endured since his first season in the NFL, according to an interview that appears in the current issue of GQ magazine.
"We sat down and talked, and I got everything off my chest from [1999] on," McNabb said. "It went all the way back to the [Terrell Owens] situation, it went back to us not winning big games, me being criticized for whatever, leadership. . . .
"They'll say something to you in the building, but not publicly. My feeling was, 'I'm out here getting cut up, where are you? I'm always defending and helping you guys, but where's that support?' "
The meeting itself isn't news. It was held in February 2009, but Lurie wasn't present. McNabb and his agent, Fletcher Smith, sat down with Reid and team president Joe Banner, according to an Eagles official. Reid, through a team spokesman, said that he wouldn't "comment about what was said."
An Eagles official confirmed that McNabb was critical of the organization in that meeting, and that the team didn't agree with his characterization.
what a giant Hoyda
always blaming everyone and everything else but himself...complete bitchmade bedwetter
The worst part is he's not even crying to them about the team getting better, he's crying for them to support his fragile psyche. It's bad enough Reid and Banner pampered him for 11 years, but now he has the balls to cry about the lack of support after the fact? Successful leaders don't cry and make excuses, they suck it up and lead.
thats cause he cares waaaaaay more about how people look at him than he does winning games
and yeah say what you want about reid but the guy protected mcnabb and was his biggest supporter for a decade...its despicable that he would say anything negative about andy....it just goes to show how weak and self concious he really is
He's almost as big a bitch as JelloHead Lindros.
much bigger IMO.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2010, 08:53:08 AM
and yeah say what you want about reid but the guy protected mcnabb and was his biggest supporter for a decade...its despicable that he would say anything negative about andy....it just goes to show how weak and self concious he really is
it should also be noted that andy traded him in the division to accomodate donovan rather than exile him to buffalo and hes gonna talk shtein three months after?
Andy Reid treated the guy better than his own kids.
best part is this...
Quote"I'm like, 'Hey, we need to get this thing going, how much time is left?' " McNabb said. "I'm looking at the clock and the ref is like, 'We've got another five minutes after this quarter if no one scores.' I didn't think nothing of it, but I did hear it. It was a mistake on my part. I've got to know the rules."
so he knows the OT rules but just forgot for a minute.
yeah they were talking about that yesterday on wip
hugh douglas made a good point and said if that had really happened mcnabb would have easily dimed out the ref for saying that....probably right after the game but def in the days following when he was getting straight killed for it...he def wouldnt have waited two years and then dropped it in a magazine interview
i think we have a jersey to burn again at the tailgate.
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"The most important thing you have to do is handle it well," because Kevin can get fiery, and I said, "Don't do it, because once you get fiery, then all of the sudden you look like you're on the defense, and now they'll really start coming at you."
- Donovan Mcnabb
He's got a career after football...Donovan McNabb, Media Relations Consultant
where is jay to support that assclown?
Entire McNabb GQ article (http://www.gq.com/sports/guides/201009/nfl-preview-fall-2010-gq/donovan-mcnabb-extended-interview-eagles-taterskins-qb?currentPage=5#ixzz0xWvAu3mr)
Yeah. I'm not going to be reading that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2010, 09:31:26 AM
yeah they were talking about that yesterday on wip
hugh douglas made a good point and said if that had really happened mcnabb would have easily dimed out the ref for saying that....probably right after the game but def in the days following when he was getting straight killed for it...he def wouldnt have waited two years and then dropped it in a magazine interview
Totally agree that he is full of it on this one, but to play devils advocate:
1) He always tried to play himself up in the media, blaming the refs would have hurt his image
2) Citizens the refs usually ends in a fine.
So while I don't believe it to be the case, it IS possible that it happened and he never said anything.
Quote from: paco on August 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
it IS possible that it happened and he never said anything.
no its not
he said the ref said there would be an additional five minutes added after the OT....no ref would ever say that
it wouldnt be remotely believable if he claimed the ref had said we go another quarter or we go till someone scores...but that fact that mcnabb said the ref told him we go another five minutes makes it a complete joke
i am so glad that bitch ass motherfarger is gone. the fact that he had the balls to criticize an organization that catered to his every whim and spoon-fed him from the moment he arrived to the moment he left sickens me to no end.
farg you, donovan. here's hoping you get sean taylor'd in washington.
Quote from: Rome on August 24, 2010, 10:29:50 AM
where is jay to support that assclown?
Right here.
There was nothing outrageous in that interview and I enjoyed it.
The OT thing was stupid, but if you vultures noticed, the writer confirmed that is what he was told. But he is a dumbass for not knowing on his own, I agree.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 24, 2010, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: paco on August 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
it IS possible that it happened and he never said anything.
no its not
he said the ref said there would be an additional five minutes added after the OT....no ref would ever say that
it wouldnt be remotely believable if he claimed the ref had said we go another quarter or we go till someone scores...but that fact that mcnabb said the ref told him we go another five minutes makes it a complete joke
Well, I mean, it is possible that the ref said something and he misheard him. Stadiums are noisy.
/devils advocate
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2010, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 24, 2010, 10:29:50 AM
where is jay to support that assclown?
Right here.
There was nothing outrageous in that interview and I enjoyed it.
The OT thing was stupid, but if you vultures noticed, the writer confirmed that is what he was told. But he is a dumbass for not knowing on his own, I agree.
hahaha
at least he admitted that mcnabb is dead
donovan is a flat out bitch and it takes insane blinders not to see that at this point
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 24, 2010, 10:54:12 PM
donovan is a flat out bitch and it takes insane blinders not to see that at this point
This should be a tatoo
Quote from: SD on August 24, 2010, 10:13:29 AM
Quote
"The most important thing you have to do is handle it well," because Kevin can get fiery, and I said, "Don't do it, because once you get fiery, then all of the sudden you look like you're on the defense, and now they'll really start coming at you."
- Donovan Mcnabb
Wow
Quote from: Rome on August 24, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
i am so glad that bitch ass motherfarger is gone. the fact that he had the balls to criticize an organization that catered to his every whim and spoon-fed him from the moment he arrived to the moment he left sickens me to no end.
farg you, donovan. here's hoping you get sean taylor'd in washington.
every whim? like what? just wondering. and wasn't that meeting common knowledge? that he asked for more weapons or more money? or was that the previous off season?
^^^^
easily more of a mcnabb reach a rounder than j
j is just being stubborn at this point
but retard validly likes mcnabb
In public and in private they nursed him like an infant and it's indisputable that he was treated better than any other athlete who's ever played for the Eagles by the organization.
The comments he's made since he's left illustrate perfectly his victim mentality, and every teammate he's ever had who's criticized him for being weak and mealy mouthed has been proven correct now that he's gone.
Good riddance, Donovan.
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The Eagles were fourth in the league in interceptions with 25, including a league-high nine by Asante Samuel and a career-high five by Brown. But they gave up a disturbing 27 touchdown passes, which tied for eighth most in the league and the most by an Eagles defense in nearly a quarter century.
"That's [lack of] communication across the board," Brown said of the 27 TDs. "I had people tell me, 'Well, it was your best year.' I said, 'Why?' They'd say, 'Well, you had more picks than you ever had.' But sometimes the fans and the media don't get the clips and the real film that really tells the truth about a football player.
"I'd much rather have a guy that's going to set a tone and be fundamentally sound every play, make consistent tackles, than have somebody who's just going to make big plays. That's me. And I know that's how most people think."
You don't have to have a Ph.D. in reading between the lines to figure out that the guy Brown is referring to in the previous paragraph is Samuel, who pretty much made it clear the last two seasons that interceptions trump all other responsibilities for a cornerback. In fact, he made it clear that interceptions were the only responsibility for a corner.
The Eagles made Samuel the highest-paid cornerback in the league 2 years ago and still couldn't get him to tackle or play press coverage. Brown, meanwhile, couldn't get the Eagles to rework the contract he signed in 2004, which led to his trade to the Browns.
PG should be along any second with her thoughts.
75% of the reason i posted it
With wost manneans back, MJG is getting some 1st team reps instead of Andrews. Wow, love these Andrews brothers stealing money!
Andrews should not have survived the purge. Renegotiating his deal was at least a step in the right direction. I've seen nothing of him at camp or in preseason games that says he should be on the field. The key here is getting Jackson back at center, then they can move Cole back to RG where he's at least somewhat competent.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2010, 08:45:17 AM
75% of the reason i posted it
And the other 25% being because it's troof.
HoF Ingram having an MRI on his knee this afternoon.
seeyabye
done
Quote from: SD on August 25, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
Andrews should not have survived the purge. Renegotiating his deal was at least a step in the right direction. I've seen nothing of him at camp or in preseason games that says he should be on the field. The key here is getting Jackson back at center, then they can move Cole back to RG where he's at least somewhat competent.
im not counting on jackson for much this year even if hes 'healthy'...anything they get out of him in terms of high quality play is a huge bonus...in fact i would pup him like they did curtis in 2008 and dont even try to have him play until his shtein is 110% right...i know they dont have shtein behind him either but id rather have a 100% cole than a gimpy jj...its not a position to be playing on a weak knee
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2010, 07:14:14 AM
^^^^
easily more of a mcnabb reach a rounder than j
j is just being stubborn at this point
but retard validly likes mcnabb
yup i like mcnabb. sad to see him go. OH NO SOUND THE ALARMS! :o
We're the only ones left, MR.
I still like him. Unlike these bozo's I really don't care what the guy is saying now. He's not on the Eagles anymore.
I'll care come the week the Eagles and taterskins play. Then I'll go back to not caring, as should everyone else.
You three sound like Hoydawhipped boyfriends of bitches who cheat on you, and not only don't you mind, you actually like it.
It's fairly hilarious, though.
Someone post a Kevin Kolb interview. At least I'm interested in things he says now.
And you guys sound like McNabb raped and pillaged you and your homes.
Best QB in history of the team.
Wrong. He's just a player who choked every time he was presented with an opportunity to win the big one. Every single solitary time. And for every missed opportunity he gave us increasingly laughable excuses and reasons why he was never at fault for those losses.
Goodbye and good riddance to that loser.
So who is the best QB in team history then?
McNabb is one of the reasons this team became relevant again.
Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2010, 09:52:43 PM
Wrong. He's just a player who choked every time he was presented with an opportunity to win the big one. Every single solitary time. And for every missed opportunity he gave us increasingly laughable excuses and reasons why he was never at fault for those losses.
Goodbye and good riddance to that loser.
This can unfortunately be said for every QB, coach, and player for the Eagles since 1960. McNabb's just the most recent and best example, and a bigger target because as Jay said, he's the best QB in franchise history.
If they're still SB-less in 30 years, the ire will be directed at whoever the next great franchise QB that couldn't win the big one is.
who gives a shtein who the best qb in eagles history is? have any of them in the last 45 years won a farging super bowl? no. that makes all of them losers in my book, especially mcnabb considering the number of opportunities he had to win one.
All true:
- He's the greatest Eagles QB ever (and definitely in our lifetimes)
- He's corny
- He's a passive aggressive bitch
- He will never win the Super Bowl
- It was time to move on and go with the promising young QB, and if it's not Kolb, find another
Thanks for all the great games and memories, 5. I'll like you more when a) you aren't a motherfarging taterskin, b) the memories of your puking, your choking, your worm burners, your lame manufactured controversies, your unfunny cornball behavior, and all the rest become somewhat faded, but the electric highlight reels still remain.
j says
qb stats > world series
No he doesn't say that.
Not sure if it was posted, but Ingram had surgery to remove a cyst from the back of his knee.
IR or injury settlement release, coming soon to a HOF Ingram near you!
i love sheep who automatically like a guy because he was good
just like you can like buddy ryan more than andy reid you are allowed to think mcnabb is the best qb in eagles history and still think hes a bedwetting douchebag who makes you physically ill
I have always been a big McNabb supporter but his act had worn thin. Biggest problem with him I have is he always proved the critics right. That and his constant excuse making. That is a blatant lie he told about the OT snafu.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 26, 2010, 01:11:17 PM
I have always been a big McNabb supporter but his act had worn thin. Biggest problem with him I have is he always proved the critics right. That and his constant excuse making. That is a blatant lie he told about the OT snafu.
at least you admit it....kudos
I defended McNabb for years. Not because I thought he was infallable...I just thought he would ultimately pull through one time, even if accidentally. The loss to the cardinals was pretty much the end of it for me. I remember watching the two Dallas games last year and finally realizing that for the most part what you saw in the first quarter would let you know what you saw the whole game.
He may be the greatest statistical QB ever, but when i think of "great eagles of all time" or "great eagles of my lifetime" he isn't on either list.
To me, he never came off as football smart, and that's what I always tried to fruitlessly defend. Second half adjusments? Late playcalls? I have this feeling now that Reid did a lot to cover McNabbs flaws. I guess we'll see what happens this year as to whether or not i was right. But I have a feeling we won't see the same time management issues and failure to adjust issues as we have in the past.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 26, 2010, 12:00:05 PM
IR or injury settlement release, coming soon to a HOF Ingram near you!
:-D
Quote from: charlie on August 26, 2010, 01:28:16 PM
I defended McNabb for years. Not because I thought he was infallable...I just thought he would ultimately pull through one time, even if accidentally. The loss to the cardinals was pretty much the end of it for me. I remember watching the two Dallas games last year and finally realizing that for the most part what you saw in the first quarter would let you know what you saw the whole game.
He may be the greatest statistical QB ever, but when i think of "great eagles of all time" or "great eagles of my lifetime" he isn't on either list.
To me, he never came off as football smart, and that's what I always tried to fruitlessly defend. Second half adjusments? Late playcalls? I have this feeling now that Reid did a lot to cover McNabbs flaws. I guess we'll see what happens this year as to whether or not i was right. But I have a feeling we won't see the same time management issues and failure to adjust issues as we have in the past.
This
for out of towners
eagles kc nfl network
11pm friday
8am sat
and midnight wednesday
Looks like KC finished a bunch of upgrades to Arrowhead
pics (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/24/2172578/new-arrowhead-chiefs-prepare-free.html)
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 26, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
for out of towners
eagles kc nfl network
11pm friday
8am sat
farg You Time Warner.
DirecTV FTW son
Not when you live on the 23rd floor of a 42 story highrise.
or have a giant tree blocking the sky
It's not my fault you kids didn't choose where to live based on where you could get satellite TV.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 26, 2010, 04:50:23 PM
and midnight wednesday
Looks like KC finished a bunch of upgrades to Arrowhead
pics (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/24/2172578/new-arrowhead-chiefs-prepare-free.html)
That's pretty bad ass looking. I've caught 2 games there and it's one of the better stadiums I've been to in terms of watching the game.....not a bad seat in the joint. But the place was def showing it's age and was very out of date. Nice to see they were able to modernize it but at the same time, have no impact on the stadium seats.
I was there in 1992. I saw Cunnngham throw a TD to Pat Beech.
Yes!
Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2010, 09:43:35 PM
You three sound like Hoydawhipped boyfriends of bitches who cheat on you, and not only don't you mind, you actually like it.
It's fairly hilarious, though.
Umm what? How does that analogy apply? He cheated on us?
Im an Eagles fan now and forever. I hate the taterskins and I hate that McNabb is on that team. Ill root for the Eagles and I am hoping Kolb turns out like Aaron Rodgers and not a bust. With that said I never was of the opinion that McNabb is some amazing godly player immune to criticism. You can find multiple posts where I point out his weaknesses (accuracy being the worst one). I just dont like the FO and hold them (and Reid) more responsible for the failures and would have liked to have seen McNabb on the Eagles with a different/better coach. I also don't buy into their whole theory of it was time and the countless excuses they put forth when it simply came down to money/age as it does with every veteran on this team regardless of they can still play or not.
I also don't believe in the whole he never won cause he does not care, he is goofy, and because he is unfunny. I never even care that much about these players to see how their personalities are or try to come up with some scientific conclusion based on their sense of humor.
I do find it funny that everyone on this board now requires to dislike him. I wish he was traded to the AFC someplace so I could still root for his new team on the side but as it is I hope the taterskins have one their worst seasons ever.
this isnt that white power football board, you can think whatever you want
its just that most people here cant stand the sight of the fat choking dog loser, hate the vile racist taterskins and want them all the blow up 9/11 style.
Quote from: KDS on August 26, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
this isnt that white power football board, you can think whatever you want
its just that most people here cant stand the sight of the fat choking dog loser, hate the vile racist taterskins and want them all the blow up 9/11 style.
100% correct.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2010, 08:29:39 PM
I was there in 1992. I saw Cunnngham throw a TD to Pat Beech.
Yes!
I have Pat Beech's autograph! Saw the birds in Seattle that same year. OT last second Ruzek FG to win it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2010, 08:29:39 PM
I was there in 1992. I saw Cunnngham throw a TD to Pat Beech.
Two, in fact. The only two TDs that Beach caught on the Eagles.
Great memory QB! Weren't the birds on fire going into that game? Didn't they end up losing like 24 -21?
The Birds were real good in 92, I don't think they lost a home game. It was before the Kotite rot had really set in and the Gang Green guys retired/left town. Main thing stopping them was the Cowboys being ridiculous that year.
off the field issues killed the eagles in 1992....the disgust over buddy being fired...the way keith jackson was treated his subsequent holdout and move to miami really devastated the team...then you had reggie filing suit against the league to become a free agent which was spurred on by cheap farg bramen
the team completely despised bramen and was a broken locker room even before the season started and it just got worse after that
jb passing away that summer of course didnt help either
Quote from: Don Ho on August 27, 2010, 03:49:12 PM
Great memory QB! Weren't the birds on fire going into that game? Didn't they end up losing like 24 -21?
Yeah, I beleive they were 4-0 and coming off the Monday Night stomping of Dallas. In fact, if I remember correctly, they played Denver and Dallas in back to back weeks and smoke checked the crap out of both of them.....something crazy like 60-10 combined.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2010, 04:22:36 PM
off the field issues killed the eagles in 1992....the disgust over buddy being fired...the way keith jackson was treated his subsequent holdout and move to miami really devastated the team...then you had reggie filing suit against the league to become a free agent which was spurred on by cheap farg bramen
the team completely despised bramen and was a broken locker room even before the season started and it just got worse after that
jb passing away that summer of course didnt help either
This pretty much sums up the 92 season. But Reggie was with them in 92.....I forget, was that suit on going throughout the year or did it take place in the offseason? When exactly did god tell him to go to Green Bay?
This was also the year that the Eagles went down to New Orleans and had a 2nd half comeback/demolishing of the Saints. Heath Sherman and Arkansas Fred were farging money in that game.
yeah 92 was not a good year to be a fan and have to set back watch what happened to the team off the field.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2010, 04:22:36 PMjb passing away that summer of course didnt help either
yea but it sure was funny
Quote from: KDS on August 27, 2010, 05:14:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 27, 2010, 04:22:36 PMjb passing away that summer of course didnt help either
yea but it sure was funny
It would have been funnier if you were the nephew.
a string of 3 death jokes
i feel like i accomplished something here.....finally
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 27, 2010, 04:44:01 PMThis pretty much sums up the 92 season. But Reggie was with them in 92.....I forget, was that suit on going throughout the year or did it take place in the offseason? When exactly did god tell him to go to Green Bay?
It was during the 92 season. Reggie was the Plaintiff, and the NFL was the defendant, with Braman chairing the NFL Properties Committee that was the primary force fighting against the players. It's not like the acrimony between the Eagles players and Braman was new in 1992, though. It was pretty much there from the strike on, coming to a head with Buddy being shown the door and then Jackson the year after.
I thought 91 was a way worse season to go through as a fan. The whole Buddy thing was still very raw, but the team seemed championship caliber. Then Randall goes down in Week 1, and McMahon kept getting injured, and even the greatest Eagle D ever can't fix that.
Quote from: smeags on August 27, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
yeah 92 was not a good year to be a fan and have to set back watch what happened to the team off the field.
They did win their first playoff game in 13 years.
I was too young to follow the offseason stuff that much and care about the drama off the field.
I read on Twitter today, Jim Trotter of SI retweeted Andrew Brandt, that the Eagles were in the running for Derek Ward as a FA last year.
Good move not signing him. Apparently he was cut by TB for being out of shape and having poor work ethic.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2010, 07:31:47 PM
I read on Twitter today, Jim Trotter of SI retweeted Andrew Brandt
The end of humanity really can't come fast enough.
:-D
Its very informative, some of the tidbits of info put out there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2010, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 31, 2010, 07:31:47 PM
I read on Twitter today, Jim Trotter of SI retweeted Andrew Brandt
The end of humanity really can't come fast enough.
says the guy who posted iphone app reviews.
Wow, you're really reaching on that one. Try again.
irony is lost on the ironic
Yet another feature of the wildly unpopular DoucheTony app...
words can't express how much i love all of you.
in that case, try modern dance
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/index.asp?mm_file_id=9176&play_clip=y)
I tried watching that yesterday, but Spadaro is so farging awful that I couldn't stomach it.
I looked at it in hopes there would be some highlights from his career.
No such luck. Don't waste your time watching Spadaro do his job and Duce talk himself up in hopes of landing a job himself.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2010, 12:40:26 PM
I tried watching that yesterday, but Spadaro is so farging awful that I couldn't stomach it.
ha...same here.....but i couldnt even bring myself to try
Apparently, there's a fire sale on Justin Hartwig. Would be silly not to kick those tires. Our O-line depth sucks, and I've got zero confidence in our Centers.
Unless he also plays guard, forget it. Jackson is playing in the opener, so the Eagles won't bite on a center.
Roster moves: Abiamiri to PUP. Pope, Egboh, Robinson, Pender, Collins, McCuller, Lawrie, Arrington, Scirrotto and Mallett Released.
@EaglesInsider Eagles acquire G Reggie Wells from Cardinals for undisclosed draft pick >>> Does this spell the end of Stacy Andrews?
hopefully
Quote from: SunMo on September 03, 2010, 02:45:55 PM
@EaglesInsider Eagles acquire G Reggie Wells from Cardinals for undisclosed draft pick >>> Does this spell the end of Stacy Andrews?
MJG?
i think mjg was gone anyway
Get Brandon Jacobs?
NO
Quote from: Zanshin on September 03, 2010, 02:28:32 PM
Apparently, there's a fire sale on Justin Hartwig. Would be silly not to kick those tires. Our O-line depth sucks, and I've got zero confidence in our Centers.
was hoping for this as soon as Pouncey outplayed him for the Steelers and the option was there.
not to mention Ive been saying for the past year that Jamaal Jackson is a below average center. He was getting pushed back like crazy almost every game no matter who was lined up across from him. add a f'ed up knee to the mix...forget about it.
I agree with adding Hartwig.
I like the Wells acquisition alot.
I saw the Vikes cut TE Garrett Mills. I could see him ending up here
Hartwig is really bad. I'm not saying he's worse than what the Eagles have, but I wouldn't expect him to be some kind of noticeable upgrade, based on what I've seen of him on the Steelers.
anyone that gets added to your team in the first week of september is bad
Donte Stallworth was pretty good for us a few years back.
This team could be the worst in a while. It doesn't look like they'll be that good even if Kolb proves to be decent. The o-line will make sure of that. I can see him eating turf most all season, if he last that long. I don't see them having that good of a running game, the o-line will probaby make sure of that also. Looks like they'll be playing from behind a lot. Thats baaad. The defense isn't that good to start with and being on the field a lot means that even if the Eagles manage to be in the game late third or fourth quarter, they probably get beat in close games.
I hope I'm wrong.
I see a team that is actually better than the 11-5 team that made the playoffs last year especially on defense.
I get why some people are forecasting doom with Kolb taking the reigns but even if he's as good as McNabb was last year they're still going to be better on defense and that means they'll be better all around.
They could be better on D, and probably will, but there are question marks and better than what they were last year might not be good enough anyway. You have a rookie starting opposite Cole, and Bradley coming off of knee surgery. I like Nate Allen at FS, but he's one of 4 first year guys in the defensive backfield's depth chart. I like the fact that they've aquired young players with potential, but injuries there could mean problems.
The offense has even more questions. The o-line looks to be one of the worst in the league. There is no depth at RB, and it remains to be seen if Shady can carry the load for the entire year and playing behind this line doesn't make it look good for him. Even with WR's that will be better, (I like Cooper), and a pro bowl TE it doesn't look like it will make a difference with the lack of a effective line.
Quote from: Rome on September 05, 2010, 01:01:22 PM
I see a team that is actually better than the 11-5 team that made the playoffs last year especially on defense.
Wtf are you looking at?
Kolb's oline in front of him is an orthopedic surgeon's wet dream and they have no backups.
The defense is not exactly making me think they'll stay in games unless Kolb and his WRs have career weeks...every week.
Special teams were...well, special...in preseason.
Yes, I am a huge Sheldon Brown fan, but in as unbiased of a statement as I can make, losing him was huge. I have zero faith in the secondary for this team now....and I didn't have much faith in it even with him there.
The ONLY thing I see being better is LB...and that's because they have Stewie back.
6 wins.
I suspect that free safety will be better.
yeah brandon graham better be the truth and be it right away because if they dont have a great pass rush the secondary is going to get torched...unfortunately the front seven is not exactly overflowing with talent so i dont see that happening and really even if it does it doesnt mean the pass defense will be any good....they had the 5th most sacks in the nfl last year because teams threw so much against them and unlike past years they couldnt even keep teams out of the end zone
one thing that should help the d is being a year farther away from jj not being around and a year deeper into mcdermots system...of course that only matters if people like assante samuel gives a shtein about what his coaches are trying to do
so an 11 win team is going to regress to a 6 win team because they lost sheldon fargin brown?
lolol
I see a much better defense than last season. Ends are better with the addition of Graham, interior of the D-line is better since Laws looks like he can contribute Linebackers are much better, not have Stewie last season was a disaster. Sims is athletically gifted which is an upgrade at the WILL, SAM remains a question mark. I thought Hobbs looked good in the preseason, nickel corner is a question mark with Hanson, but I like what I've seen from Patterson and Lindley as the 4th and 5th guys. At worst Allen is a great coverage safety, and I wouldn't underestimate the influence of Dick Jauron. I'm not saying they're going to be a shutdown D, or that they're going to do well right off the bat - because they are young - and I'm expecting the Packers to put some points on the board week 1, but I think there are some big pieces in place and there are 4 or 5 guys that have the potential to be studs.
They're going to give up points for sure but they're also going to be a turnover machine.
As long as the offensive line remains cohesive and the injured players are healthy (admittedly a big if) I can't see the Eagles regressing much at all.
Look, it could all go horribly wrong. Kolb could be a disaster, the running game could be abandoned, the defense could be swiss cheese and the special teams could suck, but I just don't see that happening.
They were a good farging team last year and I expect them to remain a good team.
That's impossible. They no longer have EITHER Andrews, McNabb, Gocong, or Sheldon Brown.
3-13.
You forgot Westbrook.
2-14.
The schedule might be why this team is worse. I have to agree with Rome talent wise they are no worse off than they were last year. If the oline stays Peters, Herremans, Jackson, Cole, Justice they should be decent. The big x factor is how Jackson comes back. It seems awful early for him to be ready to start week 1.
The defense can't be any worse than it was last year. I personally don't think losing Sheldon is that big of a deal, its not like he is a shutdown corner. He was a very good one but thats about it. Safety should be better just because they don't have a guy starting there out of position. LBs are definitely better with Sims and Stew.
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 12:07:21 PM
so an 11 win team is going to regress to a 6 win team because they lost sheldon fargin brown?
lolol
they were a mirage last year....beat no teams with winning records and got mashed everytime they played a good team...in fact i dont think they were within a touchdown of any over .500
the offensive line alone keeps them at and 8-8 team this year....and depending on how the rest goes it could be much worse...and im sorry but i just dont see this massive improvement on the defensive side of the ball...ernie sims is the only clear cut huge imporement and he cant stay on the field...and im speaking of this year...sure i think graham and or allen could be good players down the road but i wouldnt expect them to be massive improvements this year...i hope im wrong and they are way better way earlier than i think but i just dont count on rookies to make huge differences on defense...ill hope to see some flashes of potential but thats about it....id be happy with six sacks from graham and that would still be less than juqua had last year and im just hoping nate allen doesnt get embarrassed and ball hawks a few ints
Other than last year Sims hasn't had a problem staying on the field.
missing full games hasnt always been his problem hes always got a brusied shoulder here or had to leave a game there because of a stinger....and he has concussion history going back to college....being hurt is not always about missing games...but at least a lot of his problems are because hes a maniac on the field and not because hes soft or injury prone
6-8 wins
rebuilding year
Basically looking for kolb and some of the other youngins to show they can be solid starters in the NFL
Anything else is gravy. Nothing to be depressed about either, it's time to develop a exciting new core of young players and it doesn't happen overnight.
Exactly.. They werent exactly ripping off superbowl wins before. Low expectations. If they break .500 then cool.
whatever.
forecasting six wins for this team is flat-out defeatist stupidity and it's not even worth arguing over.
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
They're going to give up points for sure but they're also going to be a turnover machine.
As long as the offensive line remains cohesive and the injured players are healthy (admittedly a big if) I can't see the Eagles regressing much at all.
Look, it could all go horribly wrong. Kolb could be a disaster, the running game could be abandoned, the defense could be swiss cheese and the special teams could suck, but I just don't see that happening.
They were a good farging team last year and I expect them to remain a good team.
could? could be abandoned?
yes stubborn rome! whats up.
what part of this team has digressed to the point where they're going to lose five games in the standings over last year?
and i just flipped by the jerry lewis telethon and he was french kissing a dog.
Kevin Kolb running for his life = your Philadelphia Eagles running game
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 03:58:10 PM
what part of this team has digressed to the point where they're going to lose five games in the standings over last year?
the schedule has gotten harder
you have to remember how awful they were last year, really. they beat absolutely nobody.
they got flat out wrecked against any quality team last year. the qb is unproven. there's no reason to think they won't be mediocre with all the young players and new starters.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
Kevin Kolb running for his life = your Philadelphia Eagles running game
Michael Vick coming in to throw passes every fifth play is your Philadelphia Eagles running game.
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 03:58:10 PM
what part of this team has digressed to the point where they're going to lose five games in the standings over last year?
what part tells you it wont be around 8-8
the one true strength on the team (the offensive skill positions) is negated by a horrendous offensive line and the rest of the team is middling at best
My prediction is 7-9. If you disagree with me, I challenge you to your choice of a footrace or fisticuffs.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2010, 04:11:28 PM
My prediction is 7-9. If you disagree with me, I challenge you to your choice of a footrace or fisticuffs.
6 wins max. I'll be happy to take you up on the footrace bandboy. :evil
Ok, we will race for 2 yards. 1 step for me, 8 for you. Automatic win.
we never know how the schedule is going to work out so using it as a reason why they'll be worse record-wise is weak sauce.
give me reasons why this team is going to be worse than last year other than the issue about the offensive line which i've already conceded.
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
we never know how the schedule is going to work out so using it as a reason why they'll be worse record-wise is weak sauce.
i agree with you on the schedule...the teams who are good going into the year can be vastly different from who is good by week ten....but using the schedule as justification isnt any worse than using 11 wins last year as a reason for why they will be good
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
give me reasons why this team is going to be worse than last year other than the issue about the offensive line which i've already conceded.
you need more reasons than the most important position in football being one of the worst units in the nfl?
they have a first year starting qb behind a gross line....even if the line was good qb would be a questionmark
not to mention look at the rest of the roster...other than a spot here or there they have either young and unproven/inexperienced guys or averageness
plus they are starting out 0-1 cause theres no way they beat green bay
if the offensive line is healthy they're pretty farging far away from being one of the worst units in football.
you guys are swell
9-7
i'm thinking 9-7, 10-6 if they have a few lucky bounces (games won on a fluke play/ot)
Well...Greg Lewis and homedude (I can't remember his name) won't be there to fumble punts and mishandle kickoffs.
Does philly return the favor and take out Green Bay's QB week 1 for the season? (Remember Randy). I want to see how the defense plays. If they show any semblance of heart and grit...I'll be excited for this season and might tickle myself with the notion of playoffs. If they show up as if they were playing in Dallas....season is dead to me.
I think this team goes 16-0 barring any losses.
8-8
gb - l
det - w
jax - w
wash - w
sf - l
atl - w
tenn - w
indy - l
wash - l
nyg - l
chi - w
hou - w
dal - l
nyg - w
minn - l
dal - l
Quote from: charlie on September 07, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
i'm thinking 9-7, 10-6 if they have a few lucky bounces (games won on a fluke play/ot)
remember your thread from last year that said the eagles will win the superbowl this season
is that still a solid?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
Quote from: charlie on September 07, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
i'm thinking 9-7, 10-6 if they have a few lucky bounces (games won on a fluke play/ot)
remember your thread from last year that said the eagles will win the superbowl this season
is that still a solid?
I don't see you're point. I wasn't posting here last year.
POINTLESS EXCHANGE ALERT!
Somewhere between 0-16 and 16-0.
I bet they finish with a better record than the taterskins but that's all I'm banking on.
so rome, you think the team can do better than 8-8 ?
i hear your point on schedules but there are some tough games this year with teams that i do not see having some kind of big drop off.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 07, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
I bet they finish with a better record than the taterskins but that's all I'm banking on.
thats a coin flip...but i will bet you a 10 spotter
Rich Hofmann wants whiners to STFU (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100907_Rich_Hofmann__It_s_hard_to_figure_pessimisim_about_Eagles_as_NFL_season_nears.html)
weird, i didn't see STFU anywhere in that article.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 07, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
I bet they finish with a better record than the taterskins but that's all I'm banking on.
thats a coin flip...but i will bet you a 10 spotter
In.
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/09/yeah-thats-not-the-headline-you-want-to-see.html
i think i'm going to actively root against my favorite team any time i get the chance so that, on the off chance i'm right, i can say i told you so to some people on the internet at some point in the future. yes, thats my new plan.
Your new plan is IGY's old plan.
except mine is about reverse psychology and soothing potential pain with cake...not braggin writes
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
thats a coin flip...but i will bet you a 10 spotter
you are beyond ridiculous.
Todd hacked igy's account again.
When is Sunny going to start the season thread?
never
isnt this the season thread and the individual game threads will accompany it
good idea
In case anyone needs tickets for Sunday the Eagles just released a shteinload on Ticketmonster.
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awesomness from jaws...
"I still think about coming here in 1976," said quarterback Ron Jaworski, now an ESPN "Monday Night Football'' analyst. "I was really excited to come to Philadelphia. People said, 'Are you crazy? You're in Los Angeles.' I said, 'It was different.' I grew up in Buffalo, a blue-collar, hard-working town, a shot-and-a-beer kind of mentality. LA was Tinseltown. I never kind of felt like I fit.
"I was excited to come to Philadelphia and really find out what a great town it was. I told people I've had my butt booed by 70,000 people, cheered by 70,000 people, many times the same game. You have to understand, they're passionate.
"I remember people saying, 'They can boo you, but they won't let anyone else boo you.' I was one of their own."
you bolded the wrong part fool
QuoteAs Week 1 approaches, there appears to be a vibe that the Eagles will take a step back this season. That the Super Bowl is a pipe dream and that just making the playoffs would be an acceptable goal.
Maybe it's because the team, for the first time this century, has a new quarterback or because the offensive line is thin or because the average age of the roster is half that of Jamie Moyer.
And maybe all of those points are valid.
But if you're looking for a reason to believe the Eagles will improve upon last season, it's this: the defense. The sapless state of last season's squad was symbolized by the stunning return of Jeremiah Trotter.
Per Andy Schwartz CSN
Just for you Phreak!
Whatchoo talking about - defensive MVP last year!
Opposing offensive MVP of the year.
Unfortunately, my last vivid memory of Trotter in an Eagles jersey was watching him try and cover (I beleive it was) Zach Miller on a 3rd down play against the Raiders last year and he was just beaten so badly that it's not even worth trying to make up some cute analogy for it.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-new...es-transactions
Quote
Eagles made a play for Packers offensive lineman — 2:17 p.m.
The Philadelphia Eagles tried to acquire Green Bay Packers G/C Jason Spitz prior to last weekend's roster cutdown, the Journal Sentinel report. The paper reported the Eagles offered a sixth-round pick, but Green Bay turned down the offer.
League sources told FOXSports.com the Eagles have had their eye on Spitz for several weeks. In fact, Philadelphia had serious interest in him prior to the 2006 NFL Draft.
As noted previously by FOXSports.com, Green Bay did not want to trade the interior offensive lineman because they value his versatility.
— Adam Caplan
So, who looks like the top ranked college QB this year?
Don Ho's 80 year old grandma, I think.
As discussed yesterday....Jason Davis is on his way to Philly for a workout.
Wouldn't be opposed to that pick up. He may actually be a better blocker than Weaver.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 13, 2010, 10:27:23 AM
Wouldn't be opposed to that pick up. He may actually be a better blocker than Weaver.
Which will prove to be completely useless.
QuoteFullback Owen Schmitt working out for eagles today too per a league source.
I always loved Schmitt at WVU, dude was a beast.
In football talk, it's good to be a beast.
i can't think of any place where it's not good to be a beast.
On a freeway comes to mind.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
Don Ho's 80 year old grandma, I think.
To late, Raiders all over her shtein with niners a close second.
Andy Reid: Eagles will sign FB Owen Schmidt and promote TE Garrett Mills. OL Fence Tupou will be signed to practice squad.
His real name is Fence?
Was he born in the front yard? What kind of parents......never mind.
He's related to Matt Ware.
Going to see more max protect packages, because Kolb wasn't looking past his primary read anyway.
Maybe Schmitt will help as a lead blocker in short yardage. I just don't get how this team can suck so bad at that over the last 3 seasons. Other than that I can't imagine he will do much for the team.
isnt owen schmitt the dope who bashed his skull open slamming his helmet into his forehead
Whitlock (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/michael-vick-should-be-eagles-quarterback)
QuoteAndy Reid coaches like he's won three Super Bowls. And we, the media, talk about him like he's won four.
What's the difference between Andy Reid and Marty Schottenheimer? A hundred pounds, Ernest Byner's fumble and different coaching specialties.
LOL @ Whitlock making jokes about Andy Reid's weight.
farging racist douchebag icehole.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2010, 06:05:51 PM
isnt owen schmitt the dope who bashed his skull open slamming his helmet into his forehead
yup
nice catch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Schmitt)
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2010, 06:05:51 PM
isnt owen schmitt the dope who bashed his skull open slamming his helmet into his forehead
Yeah. They should have signed Davis.
You won't be happy with any moves the Eagles make Jay. Do you really think a FB they sign off the street is going to make a huge difference?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 13, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
You won't be happy with any moves the Eagles make Jay. Do you really think a FB they sign off the street is going to make a huge difference?
I think players signed off the street can help the team, yes. I like Davis and he was cut from NYJ because of Richardson and Connor.
I'm going to refer to Schmitt as The Big Bleeder from now on. Another BIGSTUD nickname by a BIGSTUD poster.
:-D
Thanks cole. I needed that laugh.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2010, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 13, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
You won't be happy with any moves the Eagles make Jay. Do you really think a FB they sign off the street is going to make a huge difference?
I think players signed off the street can help the team, yes. I like Davis and he was cut from NYJ because of Richardson and Connor.
:-X
Whats wrong with that?
I think Davis has some game in him.
if hes so good why didnt the ufl call
(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/10/ncf_g_schmitt_200.jpg)
Look test?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/b87kvs.jpg)
That was difficult to watch.
career over
It is a shame Bradley can't stay healthy because he can definitely play and the D is much better with him.
Stew aint soundin good on Twitter.
Quote@StewBradley: oidndsoj nodn odncaicnasc02krfdlcmvc
how sickeningly good are those uniforms
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2010, 08:00:26 PM
(http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2008/10/ncf_g_schmitt_200.jpg)
Look test?
He's uglier than Clay Matthews.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2010, 08:14:00 AM
how sickeningly good are those uniforms
best part was when the rain hit them, they kept getting darker to look like Kelly Green
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2010, 07:32:10 PM
Whats wrong with that?
I think Davis has some game in him.
lol... based on what? 2 minutes of hard knocks?
No Charles, I liked him the first year he was with the Eagles.
You do know he was with the Eagles before, right?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2010, 08:59:12 AM
No Charles, I liked him the first year he was with the Eagles.
You do know he was with the Eagles before, right?
Of course I did, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't because he was an ex-eagle that you probably fell in love with because of one 4th quarter of a preseason game 4 years ago.
Thanks for your concern, I appreciate it. I actually liked him in camp. But that's cool. They've got a bleeding moonshiner at FB now so all is well
i'm easing my pain by watching the House of Pain game at my desk.
holy farg that defense was incredible.
QuoteEagles work out LB — 10:04 p.m.
The Philadelphia Eagles worked out free-agent LB David Veikune on Tuesday, a source told FOXSports.com.
Veikune (6-2, 257), who was selected in the second-round of the 2009 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns, was waived by the Browns on September 7.
It's believed teams shied away from putting a waiver claim in because he had some guaranteed money left in his rookie deal. Because he appeared in 10 games last season, Veikune is not eligible to be signed to any team's practice squad.
Veikune would fit in at SLB in Philadelphia's 4-3 scheme.
— Adam Caplan
Good grief.
They can't stop themselves with 2nd round LB busts can they? Their own aren't enough, now they work out other peoples busts.
(http://www.nologoneeded.com/.a/6a00e5538b9f7a883301157077a229970b-200wi)
WARRIOR
No worries. He won't be playing LB anyway. Per Spadaro they're converting him to safety.
HOF
Quote from: Rome on September 15, 2010, 08:15:47 AM
No worries. He won't be playing LB anyway. Per Spadaro they're converting him to safety.
he's going to be the first ever safety/DT hybrid
The other CF definitely approves of the Eagles' most recent roster moves:
to IR:
black guy #1
black guy #2
to active roster:
big dopey white guy #1
big dopey white guy #2
Super Bowl!
Yay for the white man !
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 15, 2010, 07:46:35 AM
WARRIOR
Represent! This was the dude i was ballyhooing at the Hawaii Bowl against ND. If i recall, like the warriors he played like shtein.
yeah, you were pumping him up when we were tailgating. He sucked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Veikune
http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/rick-reilly-go-fish/post/_/id/657/homecoming-donovan-mcnabb
nauseating beyond belief.
the linked video is even worse, except for the part where you get to see how fat mcnabb got.
QuoteThe whole two days in Chicago went like that -- McNabb doing impressions, dancing and goofing on everybody
lol, he's SO funny!
Shouldn't you have capitalized 'lol' to show just how hard you're laughing?
QuoteThat worked fine until his parents came to the recital, only to be told by the teacher that "Donovan hasn't been around here in a long time." They found him in the gym, playing basketball with the school janitor.
So his best friend was the janitor? Not shocking.
Quote from: KDS on September 16, 2010, 12:00:58 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/rick-reilly-go-fish/post/_/id/657/homecoming-donovan-mcnabb
nauseating beyond belief.
the linked video is even worse, except for the part where you get to see how fat mcnabb got.
jesus christ being around the two of them together would be a nightmare. basically donovan is the rick reilley of the nfl. once great but now a laughing stock.
i refuse to watch that but i did hear he took a shot at the fans and owens ?
man, this guy is tough.
Reilly is awful. Mind numbing, that guy.
http://thewizwit.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexy-comparison-phillies-vs-eagles.html
love the ending
QuoteOh yea, farg you Andy Reid. I hate you.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5556167
i dont even know what to say
besides his grease vocals at the end and that look......overall that wasnt even top 100 worst things hes ever done
it was the look at the end and the humming that got me
i say this with the upmost hatred of munson but he may be worse than him
may be?
munson is the worse mammal on earth
im just saying you could have found way worse donovan clips than that
The basketball game where he argues with the ref is definitely top 5
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2010, 03:09:51 AM
may be?
munson is the worse mammal on earth
im just saying you could have found way worse donovan clips than that
lmfao :-D
IGY loves me so hard
Clay Harbor deactivated in favor of Garrett Mills.
Good sign there.
Guy in OTAs and camp with the team sits in favor of a guy who has been there a couple weeks.
Gold. Stannnevermind.
Peters has been taken out by his RB and his QB so far this game. At least with Vick at QB, the LT is slightly less important.
Could be tied for first place by the end of the night.
Go team go!
QuoteIT WAS IMPORTANT TO RUN....THEY'VE GOT A VERY GOOD DEFENSIVE FRONT AND WE WANTED TO KEEP THEM OFF-BALANCE
Did Reid have a shtein eating smirk on his face when he said this?
They're rumored to be signing RB Joique Bell off the Bills PS.
Trade that waste of space Mike Bell back to the Saints. They look to have lost Bush with a knee injury.
I honestly forgot they had Mike Bell until everyone started complaining about him yesterday.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2010, 12:26:17 AM
They're rumored to be signing RB Joique Bell off the Bills PS.
Trade that waste of space Mike Bell back to the Saints. They look to have lost Bush with a knee injury.
Can we give him back? Kind of like Bush did with the Heisman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6tGvJSilg8&feature=player_embedded
so this was awesome
Quote from: KDS on September 21, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6tGvJSilg8&feature=player_embedded
so this was awesome
Is that a nationwide commercial or do they tailor the team to whatever market the commercial airs?
i believe its nationwide
and it's on your side
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100922_Winston_Justice__Mind_games___trash_talking__with_opponents_and_teammates.html
QuoteQuite frankly, it's comical when they try to make fun of my teammates or myself. I often feel bad for Nick Cole, who gets made fun of every game. No matter who we play, guys like to bring up his height and roundness. Even though Nick is 6-1, standing next to a 6-6 tackle and a 6-4 center doesn't really help his case. Last week, Vanden Bosch called him "the stump." That made me chuckle. I have to give credit to Nick though, he always has great comebacks. I've heard him and others toss around names like, "juice head," "old man," and "how'd you like that" in regards to the last play. Nick Cole and Mike McGlynn are the biggest talkers on the line, whereas the rest of us don't say much
Ashley Fox is becoming one of the best sports writers in Philly. Great piece on Kolb getting neutered. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100922_Ashley_Fox___Kolb__Badly_used_in_Reid_s_QB_transition_.html)
Mcglynn plays a physical game, much more so than Jackson
Apparently his mental game isn't quite there yet, though. His line calls against the Lions' blitz packages were poor.
P.S. I bet Smallwood would like a mulligan on this one. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/103415999.html)
maybe im missing it but ive yet to see mcglynn be physical...in his defense hes a scrub and detroit has a nice line but he got smashed the whole game
Best you can hope for with McGlynn is no botched snaps, which he did. He'd be fine as a center if Cole was a decent RG. Even on double teams they were overpowered. Still holding out hope for Logan Mankins.
Quote from: SD on September 22, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Still holding out hope for Logan Mankins.
Me too, but probably a pipe dream. They'd have been better off going after Jahri Evans
Eagles signed WR Rod Harper and S Jamar Adams to practice squad
Howie likes pulling the trigger
not sure where else to put this but:
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/09/five-years-later-hilarious-details-emerge-from-to-locker-room-fight-with-hugh-douglas.html
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 23, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
not sure where else to put this but:
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/09/five-years-later-hilarious-details-emerge-from-to-locker-room-fight-with-hugh-douglas.html
hugh should of choked his ass in the pool
This is messed up. I was under the impression this was a rebuilding year. Start Kolb and let him develop with all the young talent around him. If he doesn't prove he's a real NFL qb, then you draft a qb in the first round of next years draft, which is supposed to be one of the best drafts for qb's since '83'. If Kolb sucks then a bad record moves you in the top of the draft to get a good pick.
And no, I'm not buying into the offensive line sucking enough to let him sit.
I agree with igy, this came from the top. From Banner and Lurie. It proves to me that all they care about is putting asses in the seats and making that almighty dollar. Win now and make that cash.
It seems that Reid doesn't even control what players are on the field anymore, at least at qb. Starting Vick makes no sense for the long haul. They want to win now and to hell with building a Superbowl contender.
I'm at the point were I hate the team that I love.
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
Starting Vick makes no sense for the long haul.
It only makes sense if they trade him in the next couple of weeks.
east texas will see plenty of football this year - either here or somewhere. league will know if'n he can play surely by thanksgiving. vick won't last long or cobb will be long gone... one or the other he'll get his chance to slosh around the old brain bucket soon enough
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
This is messed up. I was under the impression this was a rebuilding year. Start Kolb and let him develop with all the young talent around him. If he doesn't prove he's a real NFL qb, then you draft a qb in the first round of next years draft, which is supposed to be one of the best drafts for qb's since '83'. If Kolb sucks then a bad record moves you in the top of the draft to get a good pick.
And no, I'm not buying into the offensive line sucking enough to let him sit.
I agree with igy, this came from the top. From Banner and Lurie. It proves to me that all they care about is putting asses in the seats and making that almighty dollar. Win now and make that cash.
It seems that Reid doesn't even control what players are on the field anymore, at least at qb. Starting Vick makes no sense for the long haul. They want to win now and to hell with building a Superbowl contender.
I'm at the point were I hate the team that I love.
What if Kolb sucks and then whichever QB they draft also sucks? What if the Eagles become one of those teams, and look around tons of them right now, who are constantly looking for their next QB? Why not go with Vick if he really has improved (which we will now find out) and see if they can capitalize on all the talent at the skill positions now?
Of course that would be awesome if it also meant Reid gets fired if Vick and Kolb both do not work out.
Ty Detmer, Bobby Hoying, Rodney Peete, Koy Detmer, Doug Pederson, Bubby Brister, Jeff Kemp, Mark Rypien, Jim McMahon, Mike Boryla, Roman Gabriel, John Reaves, Pete Liske, Norm Snead
47 years of meh-to-dreck punctuated by Jawarski, Cunningham and Mcnabb
Jack,
The fact you referenced Pete Liske, John Reeves, Roman Gabriel and Mike Boryla makes me kind of like you. Those were my boys back in the day. Gabriel coming to the birds was as big as TO back in 73. John Reeves was a high pick on a really, really bad team. Maybe the worst birds team ever. Boryla was the wonder boy out of Stanford who actually made the Pro Bowl in 1975.
This might help explain a lot of my bitterness.
Quote from: JackStraw on September 24, 2010, 12:24:21 AM
Ty Detmer, Bobby Hoying, Rodney Peete, Koy Detmer, Doug Pederson, Bubby Brister, Jeff Kemp, Mark Rypien, Jim McMahon, Mike Boryla, Roman Gabriel, John Reaves, Pete Liske, Norm Snead
47 years of meh-to-dreck punctuated by Jawarski, Cunningham and Mcnabb
to be fair theres only a handful of teams over that period of time that can say they had three better qb's than mcnabb randall and jaws...what makes the eagle special is not their lack of quaterbacking but their lack of championships
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2010, 07:19:32 AM
Quote from: JackStraw on September 24, 2010, 12:24:21 AM
Ty Detmer, Bobby Hoying, Rodney Peete, Koy Detmer, Doug Pederson, Bubby Brister, Jeff Kemp, Mark Rypien, Jim McMahon, Mike Boryla, Roman Gabriel, John Reaves, Pete Liske, Norm Snead
47 years of meh-to-dreck punctuated by Jawarski, Cunningham and Mcnabb
to be fair theres only a handful of teams over that period of time that can say they had three better qb's than mcnabb randall and jaws...what makes the eagle special is not their lack of quaterbacking but their lack of championships
All true and that the two qbs being clawed about in the media right now likely fall into the former category rather than the latter as will likely the next coach no doubt...and speaking of that, and as you mention the eagles have their own special kind of "special" which includes some of these gems punctuated by vermiel, ryan and reid, who, like the three qb's above had fatal flaws:
1999 Andy Reid 109-68-1
1998-95 Ray Rhodes 29-34-1
1994-91 Rich Kotite 37-29-0
1990 -86 Buddy Ryan 43-38-1
1985 Fred Bruney 1-0-0
1985-83 Marion Campbell 17-29-1
1982-76 Dick Vermeil 57-51-0
1975-73 Mike McCormack 16-25-1
1972-71 Ed Khayat 8-15-2
1971-69 Jerry Williams 7-22-2
1968-64 Joe Kuharich 28-41-1
The thing that really sticks out there is that Reid has lost more games than any of the other coaches won. And with just 6 more wins, Reid will double the next closest coach in wins. I'm about as sick of Reid as possible, but when you look at those numbers you can't help but be somewhat impressed. Still, he's not a SB caliber coach and I don't want him anymore.
Quote from: JackStraw on September 24, 2010, 12:24:21 AM
Ty Detmer, Bobby Hoying, Rodney Peete, Koy Detmer, Doug Pederson, Bubby Brister, Jeff Kemp, Mark Rypien, Jim McMahon, Mike Boryla, Roman Gabriel, John Reaves, Pete Liske, Norm Snead
47 years of meh-to-dreck punctuated by Jawarski, Cunningham and Mcnabb
Damn, Jack. You got a lot of patience typing all that out. I would have given up by Doug.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 24, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
This is messed up. I was under the impression this was a rebuilding year. Start Kolb and let him develop with all the young talent around him. If he doesn't prove he's a real NFL qb, then you draft a qb in the first round of next years draft, which is supposed to be one of the best drafts for qb's since '83'. If Kolb sucks then a bad record moves you in the top of the draft to get a good pick.
And no, I'm not buying into the offensive line sucking enough to let him sit.
I agree with igy, this came from the top. From Banner and Lurie. It proves to me that all they care about is putting asses in the seats and making that almighty dollar. Win now and make that cash.
It seems that Reid doesn't even control what players are on the field anymore, at least at qb. Starting Vick makes no sense for the long haul. They want to win now and to hell with building a Superbowl contender.
I'm at the point were I hate the team that I love.
What if Kolb sucks and then whichever QB they draft also sucks? What if the Eagles become one of those teams, and look around tons of them right now, who are constantly looking for their next QB? Why not go with Vick if he really has improved (which we will now find out) and see if they can capitalize on all the talent at the skill positions now?
Of course that would be awesome if it also meant Reid gets fired if Vick and Kolb both do not work out.
You can say "what if" for just about any scenario, except one. 'What if Vick takes the Eagles to the Superbowl'? Know why? Because no one is crazy enough to think thats going to happen, therefore, Vick shouldn't be starting if Kolb is healthy. The coming draft is going to be deep with qb talent and the time to find out if Kolb can play or not is now. Haven't we all had enough of playing just good enough to make the playoffs, then having our hopes smashed to bits? If you're going to rebuild, then damnit, rebuild. You don't change the game plan just because Vick looked good against friggen' DETROIT!! Especially when it went down to the wire with the D giving up 32 pts. It made me sick to hear Reid gush over how Vick looked against friggen' DETROIT!! Fact is he's a .500 qb who is probably as inaccurate a passer as the guy they just sent down the road to Washington, and he's not taking this team to the Superbowl. They'll be lucky to make the playoffs, so really, what the farging point?? I'll tell you what the point is, he's a name that puts asses in the seats and makes networks change their schedules to show Eagles games. He makes the Eagles a much bigger story than Kolb would, therefore our money grubbin' little four beady eyed GM makes more money. God bless the almighty dollar bill and Joe Banner.
Quote from: shorebird on September 25, 2010, 06:41:17 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 24, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: shorebird on September 23, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
This is messed up. I was under the impression this was a rebuilding year. Start Kolb and let him develop with all the young talent around him. If he doesn't prove he's a real NFL qb, then you draft a qb in the first round of next years draft, which is supposed to be one of the best drafts for qb's since '83'. If Kolb sucks then a bad record moves you in the top of the draft to get a good pick.
And no, I'm not buying into the offensive line sucking enough to let him sit.
I agree with igy, this came from the top. From Banner and Lurie. It proves to me that all they care about is putting asses in the seats and making that almighty dollar. Win now and make that cash.
It seems that Reid doesn't even control what players are on the field anymore, at least at qb. Starting Vick makes no sense for the long haul. They want to win now and to hell with building a Superbowl contender.
I'm at the point were I hate the team that I love.
What if Kolb sucks and then whichever QB they draft also sucks? What if the Eagles become one of those teams, and look around tons of them right now, who are constantly looking for their next QB? Why not go with Vick if he really has improved (which we will now find out) and see if they can capitalize on all the talent at the skill positions now?
Of course that would be awesome if it also meant Reid gets fired if Vick and Kolb both do not work out.
You can say "what if" for just about any scenario, except one. 'What if Vick takes the Eagles to the Superbowl'? Know why? Because no one is crazy enough to think thats going to happen, therefore, Vick shouldn't be starting if Kolb is healthy. The coming draft is going to be deep with qb talent and the time to find out if Kolb can play or not is now. Haven't we all had enough of playing just good enough to make the playoffs, then having our hopes smashed to bits? If you're going to rebuild, then damnit, rebuild. You don't change the game plan just because Vick looked good against friggen' DETROIT!! Especially when it went down to the wire with the D giving up 32 pts. It made me sick to hear Reid gush over how Vick looked against friggen' DETROIT!! Fact is he's a .500 qb who is probably as inaccurate a passer as the guy they just sent down the road to Washington, and he's not taking this team to the Superbowl. They'll be lucky to make the playoffs, so really, what the farging point?? I'll tell you what the point is, he's a name that puts asses in the seats and makes networks change their schedules to show Eagles games. He makes the Eagles a much bigger story than Kolb would, therefore our money grubbin' little four beady eyed GM makes more money. God bless the almighty dollar bill and Joe Banner.
First let me start by saying I hate Reid, Banner, and whoever our GM is. I wish they would all be fired or held accountable by bringing in "outside voices". I say this because I don't want to come across as a FO supporter. I do support starting Vick because I am not ready for a rebuild. Not a rebuild where you keep plugging in unproven QBs to see if they pan out. This team is not that bad talent wise at the other positions that they need to blow everything up and re-start ala 99.
I also don't think the rest of the team is ready for a rebuild. They too, like the fans, probably believed the hype about Kolb and thought they would just pick up from where they left off. You do risk losing the team when they know there is a guy on the bench who could get them into the playoffs and possibly further but instead they are stuck playing to see if this guy pans out and then stuck playing waiting to see if another QB pans out. Vick isn't amazing but if he shows improvement, continues to play well, and leads the team he is young enough to invest the future into since the WRs, TE, and RB are set. Sure up the OLINE, which for now Vick is making up for (just like he makes up for the zesty playcalling), and work on the D. That is a lot easier to "build" than to rebuild. And honestly I do not want to rebuild AGAIN under Reid. Say what you will about McNabb, but a lot of the shortcomings over the past 10 yrs have been due to this philosophy when it comes to who they draft, who they sign, how they run the offense, and the defense. All moves seem to be dictated by the system over the talent they have and maximizing the strengths.
I would much rather spend this season to see Vick's progress.
I can see were you're coming from, even if I don't agree. What do you do with Kolb if Vick continues to play well and looks to take over this team? Kolb was a second round pick. He has to play sooner or later and I would rather it be sooner.
All this bullshtein is moot if the defense doesn't drastically improve immediately.
Quote from: shorebird on September 26, 2010, 07:19:31 AM
I can see were you're coming from, even if I don't agree. What do you do with Kolb if Vick continues to play well and looks to take over this team? Kolb was a second round pick. He has to play sooner or later and I would rather it be sooner.
The Eagles have wasted tons of 2nd round picks. If he is a bust and can't beat out Vick then chalk another one up.
Who cares where he was picked or how much he is getting paid. If he can't play he can't play.
will somebody please bitch slap samuel every time he pusies out on tackling a player?
Peter King, who is also generally a fat buffoon, has Andy Reid as his coach of the week:
QuoteCoach of the Week
Andy Reid, Philadelphia.
All you're judged on in the coaching business is whether your decisions pay off. We can argue all day about Reid saying all winter that Donovan McNabb was his guy, and then trading him; and then all spring and summer about how Kevin Kolb was his guy, and Reid benching him after 15 non-concussed snaps. But the way Vick played Sunday proved that the best quarterback to lead this team right now is Vick, and sometimes decisions in which you clearly contradict yourself can be painful and awkward. But all that matters is how it turns out.
And this decision, at least this week, was a gem, with Vick throwing 61-, 16- and 45-yard touchdown passes and running for a fourth score from 17 yards out in a 28-3 rout of the Jags. Yes, Reid has to salvage Kolb for the future, but for now, in the midst of the local and national hue and cry, his decision looks golden.
He also lists Vick #1 on his MVP watch. All aboard the bandwagon after the team has beaten two of the worst in the NFL? This will end ugly.
I mentioned in either the Kolb or Vick thread I'd thought Vick would get some MVP consideration at some point...I'm a visionary.
If he somehow shreds the skins d, he definitely should be up there in comeback player of the year and a pro-bowl candidate (which is a joke to make, but for him an unreal accomplishment 2 years off of football) only because its a tough division game with 2 teams that are very familiar with each other and it means that much more.
but MVP of the league? the only way he would get consideration is if he played the jags for the next 13 games
Vick still makes me nervous. For most of the game yesterday he was a 50% passer and right now, while he provides big plays and a threat outside of the pocket, I can't help but think that he's never far from a 12/30 110 0/2 type day.
Having said that, I never in my wildest dreams expected him to be playing this well. It's happening against poor teams so far but he didn't play this well in Atlanta over a 2.5 game span that I can ever remember.
not to mention on the road which is hard for even the above average qbs to handle
hes no doubt playing out of his mind and element because hes playing mistake free....but those days you mentioned are no doubt coming
They were road games, but not really tough road games. It isn't like he went into Arrowhead or Heinz Field.
I hear you...but winning games on the road, no matter the circumstance is always a tough challenge.
A guy like Vick especially, not accustomed to the game for 2 years? Thats a pretty decent feat.
i thought this was going to be a boring, transitional season..
it's not and now im excited and even more excited for this coming sunday.
winning sure keeps the hounds at bay....but in these last two games one of the most disconcerting elements of Vick's current game is the wounded duck toss-up. Both games had two maybe three whiffs into the blue. Luckily no defenders to capitalize, but the fortunes that change "getting-away-with-one" into game-losing mistake are just a hair away.
that said if entertainment is the nfl product we are all getting more than bargained for so far. And that the local media must be so incensed that for another week Vick just will just not stay on their little script of a cobb wronged and an andy dunderhead
Quote from: reese125 on September 27, 2010, 12:48:13 PM
I hear you...but winning games on the road, no matter the circumstance is always a tough challenge.
A guy like Vick especially, not accustomed to the game for 2 years? Thats a pretty decent feat.
I thought home teams won like 52% of the time last year.
NFLN was on point this morning; In addition to the Vick sit down they had Mooch do an interview with Reid and it was pretty good too.
Andy always opens up more to the national guys, but he appeared to be even more jovial than normal when doing these national interviews.
He talked about the Vick decision (his alone, he said) and signing him (related it to his kids situation) and McNabb (thinks he will get cheered...lol, yeah right)
After the giants game. eagles look like worst in division
Btw, who's looking like the top rated QB coming out next year?
Vote early, vote often (http://espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/coach?coachId=23)
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
After the giants game. eagles look like worst in division
Btw, who's looking like the top rated QB coming out next year?
Andrew Luck probably. This year actually looks like a pretty strong QB class.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/2514/2010/october/04/eagles-contact-bills-about-veteran-rb-lynch.html
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 04, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/2514/2010/october/04/eagles-contact-bills-about-veteran-rb-lynch.html
So, McCoy played with the broken rib and is now "out indefinitely?" Blech. And why bother giving up a pick for Lynch when you never run the damn ball anyway?
In addition to the Marshawn Lynch speculation, I read that there is a shot they will sign ex-Jets WR David Clowney depending on Sunshine's brain status.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
there is a shot they will sign ex-Jets WR David Clowney.
can't put my finger on it, but something eminently apropos there
He will immediately be put in charge of time management.
Ha, lol
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 04, 2010, 09:46:23 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
After the giants game. eagles look like worst in division
Btw, who's looking like the top rated QB coming out next year?
Andrew Luck probably. This year actually looks like a pretty strong QB class.
I'm glad to hear it seems like a good class. It wouldn't surprise me at all for Vick to come down to earth and be mediocre. I know Andy still wants to 'save' him, hopefully not at all cost, but worst case it's good to know there may be some good qb options.
Too bad you can't draft a head coach.
No, but you can trade for one.
Can we trade Andy for Belichick? I'll be happy to throw in Bobby the Brain April to make the deal fly.
For some stupid reason the Pats are reluctant to make that trade.
update:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/2514/2010/october/04/lynch-deal-not-expected-to-get-done.html
QuoteAs of now, the Eagles have only Mike Bell (1.7 average on 12 carries)
:boom
Quote from: General_Failure on October 04, 2010, 09:34:25 PM
QuoteAs of now, the Eagles have only Mike Bell (1.7 average on 12 carries)
:boom
But we have about two dozen linemen, that's what's important! Reid football! ::)
Mike Bell is farging garbage
Quotecaplannfl
Wasn't shot down when I checked into it, lets put it that way. RT @R1balla: @caplannfl any news on eagles and M. Lynch?
translation please
It's Twitter code for "not a damn thing's going on."
Adam Caplan said that the apparent Lynch deal was not shot down when he inquired about it/
many thanks
And now he said that there is not shot and linked Reuben Frank's article that PG posted
who shot ML?
Mike Vick?
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/99/l_0dc5b454e24e4cb4af12c93189eb0f49.jpg)
Hard to read, but I think it says
"It leaves you with the enhanced sensation of understanding the defining financial scandal of the era."
The last line is just too goddamn small too read.
In related news, I recently played a party game called Munchkins, which was fun.
Les does a good job of capturing the debacle that was Sunday in writing:
Quote
The bottom line: Eagles' screwups like clockwork
By Les Bowen
Philadelphia Daily News
Daily News Sports Columnist
There are two ways to look at the delay-of-game follies that kept the Eagles from trying to score a touchdown on fourth-and-goal from inside the taterskins' 1 Sunday, just before halftime.
You can focus on the oddities, such as the fact that the two officials who ran up from each side as LeSean McCoy went down were indicating the ball should be spotted inches from the goal line, but after a long review it ended up (more or less correctly, replay showed) being spotted a couple feet farther away, close to the 1. Also, after the timeout, the play clock started with the Eagles on the sideline, arguing the spot, which is not the norm in these situations.
Or, you can take the longer view, as most fans seem to - another Andy Reid clock disaster, regardless of the spotting of the ball or the starting of the clock.
That's where you encounter Reid at his most stubborn. It was clear from the coach's day-after news conference that he does not regard this as a continuing problem, making him perhaps the only person on the planet with such a view.
"Well, like I said, THIS is my fault," Reid said, responding to a question about repeated problems with time management. "It's completely my fault, so I'll live with that."
Later, Reid was asked if he has ever considered designating someone on his staff to watch the play clock, tug his sleeve when a problem starts to develop. This question brought an annoyed smirk and a quick end to the news conference.
"Yes, we do," Reid said. "We make sure we look at the clock."
Since Reid then got up and walked off the NovaCare stage, it was impossible to discern whether he meant there is, in fact, an assistant charged with that responsibility, or if he was just insulted by the question.
What is hard to picture is the conversation Reid has with meticulous Joe Banner after something like this happens, and why Banner hasn't forced the matter. Is Reid going to resign if management makes him seek a clock reminder? Kinda doubt that.
For a lot of fans, an enduring image from Sunday's fiasco will be Donovan McNabb on the other sideline, making the delay-of-game sign, with an "I've seen this before" look on his face. But of course, McNabb undercut his gloating credentials by burning two timeouts early in the third quarter and running out of bounds instead of sliding to a stop, as he tried to run down the clock at the end.
At least we no longer have to watch BOTH of them work their time-management magic each week.
Developing Story Lines
-- The Eagles' oddly constructed roster bit them in the rear end of their defense, seventh-round rookie Kurt Coleman entrusted with deep coverage on a 57-yard strike. Coleman is one of three safeties on a team that seems to be trying to corner the market on reserve corners.
-- Jason Peters is "working his tail off," Andy Reid said, is not taking lazy penalties, but "we" need to "stay disciplined and focused with hands in the holding category - making sure that we're tight with the hands." Then Reid implied that Peters' penalty-fest this year (five in four games) has to do with the movement of the umpire from near the linebackers to the offensive backfield. But Peters was among the league's most-penalized o-linemen last year, with nine accepted penalties, according to Stats Inc., and that was before the umpire moved. "He'll work through this," Reid pledged.
-- The Eagles exited Sunday tied for second in the NFL in penalty yardage, with 319, proudly sharing the silver medal podium with the Cardinals, behind league leader Tennessee (344). The Birds' total of 34 penalties ranked third.
-- So, all you have to do to make an elite receiving corps less than ordinary is to play Cover 2? Then the game becomes an endless series of dump-offs? Is this a rule?
-- This defense will look much better when Stewart Bradley gets back on the field. What's that? He was?
Who Knew?
That Bobby April could do what opposing coaches couldn't for the past 2 years - turn DeSean Jackson into Reno Mahe?
Obscure Stat
When Owen Schmitt's receiving yardage (43 on Sunday) surpasses the combined total of DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin (34), the Eagles are 0-1.
Extra Point
Sean McDermott tried to tell us how proud he was of how his defense battled Sunday, but McDermott's heart really didn't seem to be in it.
The Eagles' defense looked good in the second half for two reasons: Washington made the correct calculation that it had all the points it needed after scoring 17 on its first three possessions, and Donovan McNabb, after looking great during what should have been the hard part, the first half of his return, suddenly needed GPS to find a receiver in the second half, with a double-digit lead. (That's life with No. 5, Washington media. You guys have fun.)
The Eagles showed their adjusting and improving to be a mirage on the taterskins' final drive. Kevin Kolb had just put them back into the game with a TD pass to Brent Celek. The taterskins then got the ball at their 16, 4 minutes and 4 seconds remaining. McNabb scrambled 18 yards on third and 4. The Eagles burned their three timeouts on the series.
Then, with no possibility Washington was going to pass, former practice squad back Ryan Torain gained 13 yards on his next two carries, and another first down. If Stephon Heyer hadn't false-started (or if McNabb had slid down at the end of his scramble, instead of motoring out of bounds), the Eagles might never have gotten the ball back.
Most disturbing was to hear McDermott after the game, and Andy Reid yesterday, reference "getting off blocks" as if this were some sort of technical adjustment. When a defensive player needs to do a better job of getting off blocks, in layman's terms, that means he needs to stop getting his butt kicked. This isn't something you resolve through film study. Either you have enough sand to get the ball back when your offense needs it, or you don't.
Right now, the Eagles don't.
Quote-- The Eagles exited Sunday tied for second in the NFL in penalty yardage, with 319, proudly sharing the silver medal podium with the Cardinals, behind league leader Tennessee (344). The Birds' total of 34 penalties ranked third.
nice
When Owen Schmitt's receiving yardage surpasses the combined total of DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, the Eagles are 0-1.
ha
I've been pretty impressed with Schmitt so far, especially as a reciever.
I'd rather be impressed with him as a lead blocker. But that's crazy talk.
scary thing even if they fire reid all they're going to do is hire someone loyal to bannier inc.
there is no other way to get the job now.
Bell does just fine picking up a yard by himself.
Lynch to the Seahawks.
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 05, 2010, 02:41:07 PM
Lynch to the Seahawks.
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Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the Seahawks have finagled Lynch from the Bills for a fourth-round pick in 2011 and a conditional pick in 2012.
FAIL
haha
too good
can't give up those fourth rounders, much too valuable
LOL, what a fargin joke!!
Quote
Developing Story Lines
-- The Eagles' oddly constructed roster bit them in the rear end of their defense, seventh-round rookie Kurt Coleman entrusted with deep coverage on a 57-yard strike. Coleman is one of three safeties on a team that seems to be trying to corner the market on reserve corners.
developing?
anyone who didnt see in the preseason that keeping only three safties with one of them being a 7th round rookie was gonna be a problem wasnt following the team
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
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Developing Story Lines
-- The Eagles' oddly constructed roster bit them in the rear end of their defense, seventh-round rookie Kurt Coleman entrusted with deep coverage on a 57-yard strike. Coleman is one of three safeties on a team that seems to be trying to corner the market on reserve corners.
developing?
anyone who didnt see in the preseason that keeping only three safties with one of them being a 7th round rookie was gonna be a problem wasnt following the team
No, developing in the sense it will be going on for the next 2 years
what?
Only two years because no more world after 2012?
Developing in the sense that we are still only in the beginning of the story of an inadequate patchwork secondary which will take at least a couple of years to straighten out.
Then the world ends.
not sure why it would take two years to revamp a secondary when they did it in two months this past offseason but whatever
They revamped the secondary this passed offseason? If by revamped you really meant got rid of their best all around DB, then yes, they revamped it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 05, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
They revamped the secondary this passed offseason? If by revamped you really meant got rid of their best all around DB, then yes, they revamped it.
Booooooooooo!
Ok, I laughed. A little.
no way that was intentional
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 05, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
They revamped the secondary this passed offseason? If by revamped you really meant got rid of their best all around DB, then yes, they revamped it.
they brought in two rookies and cut two veterans...whether you agree with it or not...and i didnt/dont..it was almost a total revamping
Quote from: Diomedes on October 05, 2010, 07:50:32 PM
no way that was intentional
False. I am here to entertain Rome. Nothing more, nothing less.
Andy Reid watches the film and sees that his defense was bad at tackling and shedding blocks to the point where he'd specifically mention it in his press conference. Yet I'm sure he saw the same thing on tape last year in the Dallas games that embarrassed this team to end a season. He's bright enough to see this on tape, yet he refuses to go out and get a real stud linebacker.
Some things are beyond comprehension.
Thank goodness we didn't spend a 4th on Lynch... we'll need another slew of 4th round picks to spend on irrelevant players who will never contribute.... Gold standard
Lynch probably wouldn't have contributed either considering how much they run the ball, so I guess it breaks even.
Akeem Jordan OUT
Moise Fokou IN
Also, Reid would not answer whether or not Kolb had a chance to win back the starting job while filling in for Vick. Yay team.
Kafka will be named starter on Friday.
my farging god the linebacking situation makes me mad
Pick up Julius Jones???
Quote from: Hawk on October 06, 2010, 06:29:14 PM
Pick up Julius Jones???
I would. Kill J. Bell or Buckley. Jones is a good receiver and would be better with the shotgun/delay stuff than would either of those guys. But no way the Eagles actually do it.
julius jones was horrible even when he was good....hes a total POS now
I would rather have June Jones than Julius.
I don't care if it's Tommy Lee Jones, anyone's better than Mike Bell
I'm pointing and laughing at them because Roy Halladay just made them a waste of farging time.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 06, 2010, 07:48:47 PM
I'm pointing and laughing at them because Roy Halladay just made them a waste of farging time.
I wonder move the Eagles will make to try and get the Phils off the front page...
QuoteOn Easter Sunday, when the McNabb trade was announced at a news conference, Banner stood on a side aisle, right in front of a giant photo of Eagles Hall of Fame wide receiver Tommy McDonald, as Andy Reid talked about the deal with the Washington taterskins. The Eagles' president quietly - but not silently - seethed.
"Did they accuse the taterskins of doing this?" Banner asked under his breath to an Eagles PR person. He was referring to sports-talk radio chatter speculating that the Eagles intentionally announced the McNabb-to-taterskins trade the day before the Phillies' season opener so they could steal attention from the local baseball team.
The Eagles staffer wondered if they should address the topic.
"That gives credibility to the question," Banner replied.
Quote from: MDS on October 07, 2010, 12:09:05 AM
QuoteOn Easter Sunday, when the McNabb trade was announced at a news conference, Banner stood on a side aisle, right in front of a giant photo of Eagles Hall of Fame wide receiver Tommy McDonald, as Andy Reid talked about the deal with the Washington taterskins. The Eagles' president quietly - but not silently - seethed.
"Did they accuse the taterskins of doing this?" Banner asked under his breath to an Eagles PR person. He was referring to sports-talk radio chatter speculating that the Eagles intentionally announced the McNabb-to-taterskins trade the day before the Phillies' season opener so they could steal attention from the local baseball team.
The Eagles staffer wondered if they should address the topic.
"That gives credibility to the question," Banner replied.
No Joe, they didn't... the Nationals are offering a buy 2 get 2 free season ticket package.... whereas the Phillies hve been selling out for 2 years straight.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 06, 2010, 07:35:46 PM
I would rather have June Jones than Julius.
At least the birds would score 40+ points a game but they'd give up 50+.
The musical chairs at LB infuriates me. Why? I don't know because we've known for 11 years that this regime doesn't give a shtein about that position.
Akeem Jordan or Moise Fokou, does it really matter?
Fokou got benched once already.,
Get some farging talent in here!
I wish they would have gotten Vilma a couple years ago. Plug his ass at MIKE and Bradley plays SAM and you have a semblance of a decent LB corps.
Plug Keenan Clayton in there for chrissakes. Either way quit the switch between undrafted James Madison and 7th round Maryland shteinbags.
The last time they had a SAM was Carlos Emmons, it is insane how much this team under values LBs.
well according to the system, philosophy, and or defense this team runs...the LBs are supposed to be pointless. it pisses me off more when the positions they do value like DE, DT, and CBs are also suspect or extremely weak.
same with the Oline.
whats crazy is that an aggressive attacking blitzing defense that uses undersized lineman doesnt count on their linebackers
QuoteThe Eagles have yet to score on their first possession this season. In fact, they've barely been able to move the ball. Through four games, they've got just one first down and have averaged 1.7 yards per play on their first possession.
so now andy isnt even a good coach from monday to saturday
Fokou and Parker replace Jordan and Graham in the base defense. Also, MJG has officially displaced Nick Cole as the starting RG.
GO TEAM
what a train wreck they have become
Can someone please explain what a LB is? First I was told they are undersized DE's but now I am being told that no, undersized DE's now play DT. So couldn't we get one of these DE's to play RB? I knew there was a reason behind drafting Te'o Neshim. He was an awesome RB in PAL flag football.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 08, 2010, 01:14:38 PM
Can someone please explain what a LB is? First I was told they are undersized DE's but now I am being told that no, undersized DE's now play DT. So couldn't we get one of these DE's to play RB? I knew there was a reason behind drafting Te'o Neshim. He was an awesome RB in PAL flag football.
DEs can't play RB. However DTs can play FB.
Well if the LBs are worthless, and pointless in their scheme, can they just take them off the field and go with 8, and put the extra bodies on offense? They could use another Oline behind their first one.
Chad Hall definitely going to be signed off the PS. Unknown who will be released to make room, but let's hope it's a white guy.
Kolb?
I vote yes. Clearly he's the worst quarterback in the history of organized football.
i met jon runyan at a soccer tournament (gay) i was shooting in bordentown today. i was passing out some flyers with the website and contact info and i walked up to two of those beach chairs with the sun tops on it and bam he was sitting there. "i was like shtein, are you jon runyan..." and gave him a handshake forgetting i was at a childrens tournament.. classy.. lol. i then handed him the flyer even though he has enough money to hire his own photographer to photograph the entire rest of his life. i'm sure he'll call. i asked him if he was sure he wants to run for congress even though he's better then all of the current eagles offensive lineman. he just smile and nodded. you all care.
That's probably the first time he's heard that.
i know, what's your point?
Quote from: LBIggle on October 10, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
i know, what's your point?
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me and jon runyan are officially BFF's
Quote from: LBIggle on October 10, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
i met jon runyan at a soccer tournament (gay) i was shooting in bordentown today. i was passing out some flyers with the website and contact info and i walked up to two of those beach chairs with the sun tops on it and bam he was sitting there. "i was like shtein, are you jon runyan..." and gave him a handshake forgetting i was at a childrens tournament.. classy.. lol. i then handed him the flyer even though he has enough money to hire his own photographer to photograph the entire rest of his life. i'm sure he'll call. i asked him if he was sure he wants to run for congress even though he's better then all of the current eagles offensive lineman. he just smile and nodded. you all care.
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Quote from: LBIggle on October 10, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
i met jon runyan at a soccer tournament (gay) i was shooting in bordentown today. i was passing out some flyers with the website and contact info and i walked up to two of those beach chairs with the sun tops on it and bam he was sitting there. "i was like shtein, are you jon runyan..." and gave him a handshake forgetting i was at a childrens tournament.. classy.. lol. i then handed him the flyer even though he has enough money to hire his own photographer to photograph the entire rest of his life. i'm sure he'll call. i asked him if he was sure he wants to run for congress even though he's better then all of the current eagles offensive lineman. he just smile and nodded. you all care.
Ehhh...that was you? I my kid was playing and you handed my one of your flyers.
Quote from: SunMo on October 10, 2010, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on October 10, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
i met jon runyan at a soccer tournament (gay) i was shooting in bordentown today. i was passing out some flyers with the website and contact info and i walked up to two of those beach chairs with the sun tops on it and bam he was sitting there. "i was like shtein, are you jon runyan..." and gave him a handshake forgetting i was at a childrens tournament.. classy.. lol. i then handed him the flyer even though he has enough money to hire his own photographer to photograph the entire rest of his life. i'm sure he'll call. i asked him if he was sure he wants to run for congress even though he's better then all of the current eagles offensive lineman. he just smile and nodded. you all care.
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not best ever?
Quote from: Butchers Bill on October 10, 2010, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on October 10, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
i met jon runyan at a soccer tournament (gay) i was shooting in bordentown today. i was passing out some flyers with the website and contact info and i walked up to two of those beach chairs with the sun tops on it and bam he was sitting there. "i was like shtein, are you jon runyan..." and gave him a handshake forgetting i was at a childrens tournament.. classy.. lol. i then handed him the flyer even though he has enough money to hire his own photographer to photograph the entire rest of his life. i'm sure he'll call. i asked him if he was sure he wants to run for congress even though he's better then all of the current eagles offensive lineman. he just smile and nodded. you all care.
Ehhh...that was you? I my kid was playing and you handed my one of your flyers.
yeah, i was only there today and i was wearing a long sleeve phils shirt or a black t with with white writing. we had a few people there taking pics and handing out the papers. i'm sure it was interesting for you because your kid was playing but holy hell is little kid soccer boring when you have no vesting interest. at least baseball, football.. etc. there is a natural love of the game. soccer, not so much. i played in that same tournament when i was that age when it was on ft. dix.. and playing 3 games in one day made me immediately hate it. lol.. anyways runyan was over at the field closest to the prison for 1 game. it wasn't a big deal but that's how bored i was. much power to ya bro.
I saw Junior Seau today at his restraunt. Decent place. Thought it was appropriate after all this Jon Runyan talk. I didn't talk to him.
Seau is probably the most approachable athlete out there. He is such a cool dude. Comes to Hawaii a lot as he is into surfing big time. My buddy is one of the Oakley reps in Hawaii and is pretty good freinds with Seau. My son played in a flag football league with the Oakley crew and their Friends. Seau would always show up when in town and be the ref. You all really care, well Seabiscuit does anyway.
I'm almost at the point now, after seeing that game last night, that I want the Eagles to lose so we can pick high in the draft. Why worry about making the playoffs now?
Quote from: Don Ho on October 11, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Seau is probably the most approachable athlete out there. He is such a cool dude. Comes to Hawaii a lot as he is into surfing big time. My buddy is one of the Oakley reps in Hawaii and is pretty good freinds with Seau. My son played in a flag football league with the Oakley crew and their Friends. Seau would always show up when in town and be the ref. You all really care, well Seabiscuit does anyway.
Hook me up with some M-frames, Don!
Quote from: shorebird on October 11, 2010, 07:54:45 AM
I'm almost at the point now, after seeing that game last night, that I want the Eagles to lose so we can pick high in the draft. Why worry about making the playoffs now?
25/8
1. Eagles win
2. dallas loss
3. farve loss
4. washington loss
5. giants loss
6. whatever
Quote from: Don Ho on October 11, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
Seau is probably the most approachable athlete out there. He is such a cool dude. Comes to Hawaii a lot as he is into surfing big time. My buddy is one of the Oakley reps in Hawaii and is pretty good freinds with Seau. My son played in a flag football league with the Oakley crew and their Friends. Seau would always show up when in town and be the ref. You all really care, well Seabiscuit does anyway.
seriouslyyyyy, hook it up. even though the shipping from hawaii probably costs as much as the glasses would.
10 most underrated players in Eagles history (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/415802-the-10-most-underrated-players-in-philadelphia-eagles-history)
Just found this clicking around. Pretty cool.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 13, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
10 most underrated players in Eagles history (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/415802-the-10-most-underrated-players-in-philadelphia-eagles-history)
Just found this clicking around. Pretty cool.
commercial interruption FTL
I don't think Tra Thomas was underrated, he received his share of accolades. My top pick, Andy Harmon, didn't make the list.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 14, 2010, 12:51:14 AM
I don't think Tra Thomas was underrated, he received his share of accolades. My top pick, Andy Harmon, didn't make the list.
Yeah, I agree. Runyan as an individual may have been overlooked on the national scene but even the 2 of them together was widely regarded around the country as the best pair of tackles in the game.
Also, I never realized that the Eagles pitched back to back shutouts in their championship games. I mean, I knew the scores but never really connected the dots or tried to put any value in it's significance. Then again, it happened some 30 years before I was born so I have very little interest in it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 14, 2010, 02:19:44 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 14, 2010, 12:51:14 AM
I don't think Tra Thomas was underrated, he received his share of accolades. My top pick, Andy Harmon, didn't make the list.
Yeah, I agree. Runyan as an individual may have been overlooked on the national scene but even the 2 of them together was widely regarded around the country as the best pair of tackles in the game.
Also, I never realized that the Eagles pitched back to back shutouts in their championship games. I mean, I knew the scores but never really connected the dots or tried to put any value in it's significance. Then again, it happened some 30 years before I was born so I have very little interest in it.
Speaking of which.. I was wearing my Phils jersey down in DC for the game on Sunday night and some Yankees douche came up to bragging about the 27 World Series Wins... he was about 21.... so I'd say he may remember 2-3 of them... gotta love it.
Quote from: Hawk on October 14, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
Speaking of which.. I was wearing my Phils jersey down in DC for the game on Sunday night and some Yankees douche came up to bragging about the 27 World Series Wins... he was about 21.... so I'd say he may remember 2-3 of them... gotta love it.
That reminds me when I caught a game in Oakland a few years back. There was some little 8 year old snot wearing a jacket that said "26 time champions' will all the years on the back. He kept turning around and taunting the fans. All I could think about was, "Kid, you probably wernt even alive the last time they won one".
Cool story, I know. Point is, unless you are from NY, I dont want to hear about what a huge yankees fan you are. Especially if you are 8 and live on the white side of the bay.
I don't care where you're from. I don't want to hear about what a huge Yankee fan you are. farg the Yankees and their spoiled unbearable fans.
I thought my response was adequate though... I think it was something along the lines of...
I'm here to meet women and you're busy going up to random guys to discuss sports at a club.
lame
So you were in a club when this happened? That's actually lame on all accounts. Yes, approaching a complete stranger to "brag" about championships that don't actually belong to you is terrible in any environment, especially a club. But wearing a sports jersey to a club is awful as well. It's even worse when said club has a complete lack of regard for dress codes and allows people to wear them inside. I'm generally not a picky person, but when it comes to clubs, if they don't have some sort of minimum dress standard then chances are, I'm not going in.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 14, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
So you were in a club when this happened? That's actually lame on all accounts. Yes, approaching a complete stranger to "brag" about championships that don't actually belong to you is terrible in any environment, especially a club. But wearing a sports jersey to a club is awful as well. It's even worse when said club has a complete lack of regard for dress codes and allows people to wear them inside. I'm generally not a picky person, but when it comes to clubs, if they don't have some sort of minimum dress standard then chances are, I'm not going in.
Nah.. it's not like that.... it was a sports bar.... I watched the game... and at about 10-11ish it turns into a club... and the upstairs opens up.. I'm not running back home to switch into clubbing attire haha
Sounds like Timothy's
Did anyone see Andy Reid get mad at the press conference about Vick being late?
"You Guys are killing me.. I told him to be here at 12:15.. he was here at 12:15 blahb lbhalbhal"
Did he say "Listen"?
Quote from: Don Ho on October 18, 2010, 02:26:25 AM
Did he say "Listen"?
No but he did refer to him as "the kid"
ANDREW RIED (http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3406/andyried.jpg)
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:-D
Saw that during the NFLN special on him last week....it was a pretty good show
why is that even remotely interesting
because he was so much bigger and fatter than everyone else
wait
because he's supposedly the same age as the kid next to him
:-D Holy shtein! I know Rome remembers when MNF would show the local region Punt, Pass and Kick finalists. Those were the best. There was always one kid in the 12-13 year old division that looked 21.
YouTube link from the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gNFL2upZE)
Love it.
QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles will likely be without starting FS Nate Allen (neck) when they play at the Washington taterskins Monday evening. Fellow rookie S Kurt Coleman is expected to start in his place, but the team worked out a defensive back on Tuesday.
Free-agent DB Cary Harris, who is capable of playing safety and cornerback, worked out for the team. Harris, who was recently waived by the Buffalo Bills, was selected in the sixth round of the 2009 NFL Draft by Buffalo.
As expected, the Eagles also worked out free-agent DE Nick Reed. The Eagles have now worked out a total of 18 players this season.
The team also made a few roster moves on Tuesday.
The Eagles waived undrafted rookie RB Joique Bell and released DE Pannel Egboh from the practice squad. Bell's release still leaves the team with three running backs on the 53-man roster.
According to NBC-KECI in Montana, the Eagles will fill Bell's spot on the 53-man roster by signing S Colt Anderson off the Minnesota Vikings practice squad. A source confirmed the move won't become official until Wednesday.
With Egboh gone, the team now has one open spot on the practice squad.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12757
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Looks like Tim Lincecum's twin sister.
White defensive backs are so 1975.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 09, 2010, 03:30:41 PM
YouTube link from the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gNFL2upZE)
Love it.
Better mechanics than Tebow
Quote from: BobbyT on November 10, 2010, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 09, 2010, 03:30:41 PM
YouTube link from the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4gNFL2upZE)
Love it.
Better mechanics than Tebow
Better mechanics than McNabb
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 10, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
White defensive backs are so 1975.
Timmy Hauck says hi. He'll also destroy your spinal chord.
Speaking of Hauck, I was cleaning my garage last night and was listening to 97.5 on my phone. This is the first time I've listened to that station after like 4pm (7 est). Anyway, the topic was "Who should be the next Cowboys coach?" and listeners were emailing and texting their responses. One dude wrote in and said Hauck should be their next coach and the guys in the studio were farging perplexed. One of them even said "I don't understand where that came from." How the hell can you be on sports radio in Philly and not get that?
SD...tell me who these people are and get an explanation for me.
to be honest i dont get it either
Really?
Hauck put the hit on Irvin that ended his career.
It wasn't a laugh out loud suggestion for him to be the coach of the Cowboys (exact opposite imo) but the connection is plain as day.
its not only not funny at all...it also doesnt even really make sense
if the hit was on some kermit washington type steeze or was dirty as farg i could maybe see
but it was a fluke injury on a not even that hard of a hit
in fact id bet there isnt five cowboy fans in the country who even know who hit irvin
now if dallas hired the eagle fans to coach the team thad be something
There probably aren't even five cowboy fans who know who Michael Irvin is.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 10, 2010, 11:05:35 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 10, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
White defensive backs are so 1975.
Timmy Hauck says hi. He'll also destroy your spinal chord.
Speaking of Hauck, I was cleaning my garage last night and was listening to 97.5 on my phone. This is the first time I've listened to that station after like 4pm (7 est). Anyway, the topic was "Who should be the next Cowboys coach?" and listeners were emailing and texting their responses. One dude wrote in and said Hauck should be their next coach and the guys in the studio were farging perplexed. One of them even said "I don't understand where that came from." How the hell can you be on sports radio in Philly and not get that?
SD...tell me who these people are and get an explanation for me.
Schwartzman is the usual late night host but his wife had a baby so he's been off. Last night they went with Sean Brace, Nick Kayal, and Joe Decamara. Brace is the producer of the Vai & Gonzo show (cool guy) and Kayal does station updates and produces for Bruno and Mayes and sometimes Mikey Miss's show. Decamara is the assistant Program Director. I didn't hear that part but I'll ask Sean tomorrow when I'm in and mock his stupidity.
wtf and why?
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=144611725587346
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
obscure comment form that -
QuoteCrystal DatchikNecee Miller - News from the hood: There are people giving out key chains at gas stations..dont accept them.. they are tracking devices to come rob you,your house or your cars...
Just tryin to look out for the Females & Friends...
The best time to rob a house is when you know someone's home.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
The best time to rob a house is when you know someone's home.
thank you
Let's see, can't lead with your helmet, cant launch yourself at an opposing player, and can't hit a defensless receiver.
http://www.youtube.com/v/suYFi8zW6pE&feature=fvw
Won he gets on the feild he's like an animal, apparently.
Quote from: shorebird on November 11, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Let's see, can't lead with your helmet, cant launch yourself at an opposing player, and can't hit a defensless receiver.
A lot of those hits were before the rules were changed to their current level of sissyness. In fact, I'm sure Dawkins is one of the reasons for some of those changes. Dawk was a violent hitter and sometimes used "excessive force" but that's just the way he played. And really, had he been born 5 years earlier, very few if any of his hits/tackles/spears would have been talked about for any reason other than their shear awesomeness.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2010, 04:52:50 PM
Won he gets on the feild he's like an animal, apparently.
huh ?
G_F is off the wagon.
You guys either didn't watch the video or didn't pay attention.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2010, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: shorebird on November 11, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Let's see, can't lead with your helmet, cant launch yourself at an opposing player, and can't hit a defensless receiver.
A lot of those hits were before the rules were changed to their current level of sissyness. In fact, I'm sure Dawkins is one of the reasons for some of those changes. Dawk was a violent hitter and sometimes used "excessive force" but that's just the way he played. And really, had he been born 5 years earlier, very few if any of his hits/tackles/spears would have been talked about for any reason other than their shear awesomeness.
That was kinda' my point. I don't doubt one bit that Darth had more than a little to do with the current rules.
darth
The one and only.
(http://cdn.everyjoe.com/files/2009/02/brian-dawkins_iconphotostwo090340-nfl-sep-15-eagl.jpg)
That youtube makes me so angry again at the FO.
:boom
They let him go exactly one season too early. You already gave up your season tickets. We get it.
1:1 odds he offs himself andre waters stlye
Dirty head hunters gonna get themselves with their mushed brains at some point
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2010, 02:11:20 PM
They let him go exactly one season too early. You already gave up your season tickets. We get it.
Yes, that is EXACTLY why the tickets were given up.
Speaking of people offing themselves.......
Yawn.
Oh snap.
meep meep needer nodder