The 2010 Point and Laugh at the Eagles thread

[Sgt PSN]

where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win

The problem with that line of thinking is that Jerry Jones hasn't shown in a long, long time, he's capable of picking the right thing(s) to put it over the top. He's been missing horribly the last few years too. Not for lack of effort though.

which leads us to jerrah's biggest problem.....control.  jimmy johnson was the architect of dallas' 3 super bowls.  jerrah just needed to write the checks, sit back and watch.  but he wants to be involved.  he fired johnson, hired switzer and the cowboys won a superbowl with the team that jj put together.  then jerrah started playing talent evaluator and the cowboys sucked.  then in the middle of this decade he made a smart move and hired parcells who is probably the best talent evaluator in football ever.  but then he and jerrah broke up and wade phillips took the team that parcells built and went 13-3 with it but because he's wade phillips, couldn't win a playoff game.  now jerrah's calling the shots again and dallas has been back on the decline.  when jerrah is heavily involved in personnel decisions, the cowboys have basically been an average/above avg team at best. 

i think they got a little lucky with their success in 2009, but even if they are legit as is right now, i'm sure that jerrah will find a way to farg it up somehow because he doesn't have a true football guy guiding him in the right direction. 

[ice grillin you]

where as if dallas has a good or very good team i would have confidence that jj will go out and try to put it over the top so a lot less things have to bounce the right way for them to win

The problem with that line of thinking is that Jerry Jones hasn't shown in a long, long time, he's capable of picking the right thing(s) to put it over the top. He's been missing horribly the last few years too. Not for lack of effort though.

this is true...they have been pretty bad the second half of his tenure as owner...but jeffy has NEVER done it

if you take the next ten years as a window i have absolutely no more confidence in jeffy to win a sb than i do jerry...and id probably even give the edge to jerry

[Eagaholic]

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Jason La Canfora
Vick likely to have many suitors in 2010

Posted: January 27th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Michael Vick, Oakland Raiders, Philadelphia Eagles, St. Louis Rams

As I detailed when QB Michael Vick signed with the Eagles, this was always set up to be a one-year marriage, as by the very nature of the contract. The Eagles won't be picking up the big contract option for 2010, according to sources, or at least do not plan to. They will explore trade options for Vick during the window they have to do so in March before deciding whether or not to pick up his option.

Sources close to Vick fully anticipate him playing elsewhere in 2010, and say he is intent on being a starter if at all possible. Such opportunities should arise. Clubs to keep a close eye on include Buffalo, St. Louis, Carolina, Oakland and Jacksonville. Those teams are in the market for QB help, and many have struggled to sell tickets and attract attention in recent years, with their smaller-market status.

Vick's cause will be helped as well by the weak free-agent class of quarterbacks — Daunte Culpepper could be the class of that group, for instance — as well as an upcoming draft without prospects who seem ready to play right away. Whether teams opt to wade in heavily for Vick on the trade market remains to be seen, but if he hit the market as a free agent, league sources expect at least a half-dozen or so teams to have legitimate interest.

I'd be surprised to see the Eagles get anything significant for him, but Canfora did raise a good point that Culpepper will be the best UFA QB out there, which could change things. Also doesn't seem to be a very good QB class coming into the draft so that helps the chances.

[ice grillin you]

the biggest thing this season did for vick was to wash away much of the PR mess that comes with acquiring him...now any team that gets him doesnt have to deal with any uproar...he wont of course just be another guy but hes definitely more attractive now in that aspect...

which brings up the biggest factor in other teams being willing to give up something of significance for him and that as the article mentioned is the ticket sale and spotlight factor....this is where i see carolina as a big time dark horse because vick is beloved in the south

[ice grillin you]

Eagles GM-to-be Roseman is on a fast rise
By Jeff McLane

Inquirer Staff Writer

MOBILE, Ala. - Howie Roseman's meteoritic rise in the Eagles' front office hasn't quite made him what an NFL official jokingly mistook him for yesterday.
"Are you the owner of the team?" Roseman was asked during practices at the Senior Bowl.

For now, at least, Roseman is the Eagles' vice president of player personnel, although that is about to change. A team source confirmed what had been reported as all but certain: The 34-year-old will be the team's next general manager.

While that title gives many GMs authority in personnel matters, Roseman will report to Eagles head coach Andy Reid. But Reid has not and will not attend this year's Senior Bowl practices, so Roseman was the highest-ranking official to represent the Eagles' front office here.

He would not comment on the promotion, although an announcement is expected when the Eagles' contingent returns from the Senior Bowl. As far as the NFL community is concerned, Roseman is already in charge.

"He's obviously their guy," one NFL general manager said. "He knows his stuff. It's not like the Eagles are promoting some guy off the street. He's become more involved in personnel matters and looks to have a keen eye for talent."

Roseman, who got his start with the Eagles 10 years ago as a salary-cap analyst, switched to the football side and worked his way up to ladder. Last May, he was named VP of player personnel and continued to work closely with then-GM Tom Heckert.

Heckert, though, left the Eagles earlier this month to take the GM job in Cleveland under new team president Mike Holmgren. That left the door open for Roseman, who had become more involved in talent evaluation and personnel decisions. If Roseman is not the GM in name yet, he looked like one yesterday, hobnobbing with agents, coaches and GMs.

True to the form of a GM, Roseman would not reveal his cards when it came to the Eagles' off-season needs and how they will address those needs in the draft.

"I think it's so early in the off-season to get into the draft," Roseman said. "Right now you're just looking at talent and trying to get your board right, trying to get your ducks in a row as you go through the off-season process. I don't think really you can put yourself in a position . . . where you limit yourself."

The Eagles spent the week after the season ended with the playoff loss in Dallas evaluating the entire team, both players and coaches. They took the next week off and starting this week began looking seriously at roster changes.

Roseman was asked if the team learned anything watching the rest of the playoffs and from how New Orleans and Indianapolis went about reaching the Super Bowl.

"I see the talent level on those teams," Roseman said. "It's very high, obviously, on both sides of the ball. I think that's important. It goes back to great coaching, and we have to make sure our talent level is real high."

As the team moves toward the draft, the Senior Bowl is an important tool for coaches and talent evaluators. Eagles offensive coordinator Sean McDermott, here for the third time, said the three days of workouts let coaches see much more than what can be put on film.

"If you can get close to them, you can see the look in their eyes after getting beat or making a great play or watch them interact in between plays," McDermott said.

Like most, the first-year coordinator spent yesterday watching practice from the stands at Ladd-Peebles Stadium. He was planning to get an Eagles scout's field passes for today's final sessions.

Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg coached in the Senior Bowl when he was in Detroit. The Lions' and Dolphins' staffs are handling coaching duties this year.

"It's an advantage," Mornhinweg said. "When I did it there was a player that went about his business in a way that I knew I wouldn't want him as my football player. And there were players that I came away more impressed with because of how they practiced."

New coach to come. The Eagles will begin their search for a replacement for defensive backs coach Brian Stewart after the Senior Bowl, according to a team source.

Michael Zordich, who was a coaching intern last year but did hands-on coaching, is a candidate. His lack of NFL coaching experience could hurt his chances, however.

Stewart left to become the defensive coordinator at the University of Houston.

[General_Failure]

I hope Zordich gets the job. They need somebody to teach the DBs how to tape a paper cup full of ice to their shoulder after a game.

[Eagaholic]

Didn't realize McDermott has the OC job. At least it didn't go to Roseman.

[Eagaholic]

Philadelphia Eagles announced that they have named Barry Rubin head strength and conditioning coach and Ken Croner assistant strength and conditioning coach.

I'm thinking  Barry Rubin is Paul Rubin's (Pee Wee Herman's) brother or Howie Roseman's brother in law.

Edit: Pee Wee Herman is Paul Reubens. Must be the latter.

[ice grillin you]

how does a jew get a strength and conditioning job...they are like the weakest people on the planet

[Drunkmasterflex]

how does a jew get a strength and conditioning job...they are like the weakest people on the planet

Minus Bill Goldberg

[MDS]

12. Philadelphia Eagles

Last Title: 1960.

Last Truly Devastating Defeat: 2008 NFC title game (to Arizona).

Rock Bottom: Donovan McNabb throwing up during the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XXXIX.

Mitigating Factor: The Phillies' 2008 title knocked the Eagles down a few spots. At least the people of Philly know God isn't against their city now. Or, they're reasonably sure.

Additional Thoughts: It's unclear whether Eagles fans could have a Level 1 loss at this point since they keep their guard up at all times. (I watched it firsthand in Jacksonville during Super Bowl XXXIX: As soon as things went wrong in the second quarter, they checked out.) Eagles fans are like those premade dinner bowls from Uncle Ben's or Healthy Choice -- just cut the top, microwave for three minutes and you have a bowl of bitter. Switch McNabb for Favre this past Sunday, and Eagles fans absolutely would have been waiting for that interception to be thrown. To rope them into a Level 1 loss would take a Herculean choke.

simmons tortured fan bases column

[The BIGSTUD]

I'm just trying to picture IGY's reaction when the Eagles pass up on a player that everyone knows the Eagles should take, and in the post-draft interviews Banner says that "Howie wasn't a big fan of the guy when scouting him."

[Tomahawk]

12. Philadelphia Eagles

Last Title: 1960.

Last Truly Devastating Defeat: 2008 NFC title game (to Arizona).

Rock Bottom: Donovan McNabb throwing up during the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XXXIX.

Mitigating Factor: The Phillies' 2008 title knocked the Eagles down a few spots. At least the people of Philly know God isn't against their city now. Or, they're reasonably sure.

Additional Thoughts: It's unclear whether Eagles fans could have a Level 1 loss at this point since they keep their guard up at all times. (I watched it firsthand in Jacksonville during Super Bowl XXXIX: As soon as things went wrong in the second quarter, they checked out.) Eagles fans are like those premade dinner bowls from Uncle Ben's or Healthy Choice -- just cut the top, microwave for three minutes and you have a bowl of bitter. Switch McNabb for Favre this past Sunday, and Eagles fans absolutely would have been waiting for that interception to be thrown. To rope them into a Level 1 loss would take a Herculean choke.

simmons tortured fan bases column

Surely many people were waiting for Favre to throw that pick too. Not like the guy's been clutch in his last few playoff appearances

[ice grillin you]

I'm just trying to picture IGY's reaction when the Eagles pass up on a player that everyone knows the Eagles should take, and in the post-draft interviews Banner says that "Howie wasn't a big fan of the guy when scouting him."

well thats the big fear...even now with the gm title he will never run a draft - which makes the eagles assertion that he did so last year that much more ridiculous - but he will be putting together the big board...i think it was reese who mentioned that the late rounds will be interesting...i suggest that any round after round 2 will be because andy really wont have a ton of knowledge of those players and they will all be ranked primarily by howie

all that said i cant believe there will be a time when they come out publically and say howie farging roseman liked this guy...but even if they did i dont know how much more enraged i could be than i already was last year when it was first reported they were grooming this idiot for the job...the thing that kills me is this guy is literally like if any of us were named eagles gm...its not like he started out ten years ago as a west coast scout paid his dues moved up the ranks became a lead scpout then an assistant gm and got this job....he started in PP less than a year ago

it just unfathomable and has never happened before in the nfl

[Eagaholic]

In what could be the last year of huge draft pay days, this brings up an interesting question. Will a player with an agent known to be difficult like the Postons or Gary Wichard (who held Bunkley out) be less likely to be drafted by Howie?