The 2010 Point and Laugh at the Eagles thread

[PhillyGirl]

Look, I just have ZERO faith that Kolb will bring a Super Bowl here. To me, he's the equivalent of a Derek Anderson...or a Jon Kitna. That mediocre, might have some good games here and there, boring ass QB that won't ever get their team anywhere.

So you can twiddle his icehole with your tongue all you want, he gives the Eagles as much of a chance to win it all as McNabb does.

Which is none.

End of story.

And you know this how? Dude has played 2 1/2 NFL games and looked fairly solid minus the second half against Baltimore.  And that shouldn't even count he was put in a terrible position.  I don't think anybody thinks he is the second coming of anything. 

Like someone said earlier he could be Bobby Hoying, Tom Brady, or something in between.  Fact of the matter is McNabb has had ample opportunities why not give Kolb a shot?

Well, if anyone is trying to force the "he could be Tom Brady" point, I'll say that every time.

And again, where did I say McNabb gives the Eagles a chance to win again?

Reading comprehension, folks.

[SunMo]

you didn't say that about mcnabb, but i don't understand why you feel the need to insist that Kolb is horrible, you have no idea just like any of us.  i know after a few preseason games you came to that conclusion, and i guess you feel the need to stick to it.  but i see potential for a player and will have no idea how it will turn out until he plays a full season.

[Drunkmasterflex]

^ This

I didn't say you said that about McNabb, my (our) point is we know McNabb won't win so why not give the other guy a shot.  He certainly could crash and burn, the chances of that are much higher than him being an All-Pro.  I think most of us are just sick of getting close each year and then having our hearts broke. 

[ice grillin you]

ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it

[Rome]

How anyone can believe even for a second that McNabb is the answer (especially for a team with an offensive scheme where an extremely accurate quarterback is an absolute must) is beyond me.

He was great when his legs made up for his zesty throwing mechanics but that time is long since past, PG.

Did you even read my post? Can you show me the part where I said McNabb gives the Eagles a chance to win it all? 

I read it.  I guess I just misinterpreted what you were saying.    You're suggesting that Kolb isn't the answer in your eyes so why bother giving him a shot at all, yes?  OK, fair enough.  The thing is, though, we ALL know McNabb isn't the answer, so why NOT give Kolb a shot just for shteins and giggles?   I'd rather see the young players (Pimp, Mack & Shady) begin the process of weening themselves away from McNabb's manboob and since there's no one else there, might as well see what, if anything, Kolb has.

[MDS]

ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it

its one thing for someone like munson not to pick up on logic, but phreak....come on son

[PhillyPhreak54]

It's just that I believe that McNabb is a championship caliber QB. If he's given the appropriate supporting cast, he can win a Super Bowl.

Yes he did have that in 2004 and his performance in the SB was not good. But that was his only shot. Is it his fault they did not build on that momentum of 2004? No.

This FO and coaching staff are more to blame.

And IF Kolb is a stud, or even an adequate QB, is it really going to matter when we have a FO who doesn't value certain positions? Is it really going to matter when the coaching staff wants to throw it 52 times a week?

[ice grillin you]

ill be the first to admit i was all over cobb being horrendous after seeing him in a few training camps...i mean he was epically bad when i saw him in lehigh...it was only after his couple games last year that i made a u-turn and am willing to give him a chance...now im squarely in the i dont know what hes gonna be...and heres the important thing when doing the mcnabb cobb tango...i 100% do know what mcnabb is going to be and i HATE it

its one thing for someone like munson not to pick up on logic, but phreak....come on son

i still cant believe munson was touting tom bradys arm strength...which is below average and of all his attributes is easily his weakest

i mean i can see getting alex smiths arm strength wrong but tom farging brady....you have to come to the conclusion that kid simply doesnt watch the sport

[General_Failure]

It's just that I believe that McNabb is a championship caliber QB. If he's given the appropriate supporting cast, he can win a Super Bowl.

The supporting cast isn't going to get a lot better than what he had to work with last year. The line could certainly be better, but the skill players are the best bunch he's ever had. Every now and then he's going to have awful games no matter what players are around him, and Reid will continue to let him try to throw his way out of a bad game, which has never happened. So now we point out again that Reid doesn't do this to his other quarterbacks.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Exactly right.

And when the OL was its strongest, the skill position players were bad or not used properly (RBs).

The problem here is Reid and the FO.

I sure hope they get some attitude on that defense.

[MDS]

they had a shot early on before mcnabb became the albatross of negativity he is today. 00, 01, 02 teams had great defense and a the best OL mcnabb has had.

but HE couldnt get past kerry collins. then HE couldnt lead the eagles on a gw drive against the rams. then HE lost inthe nfccg to brad johnson and jake delhomme. then HE lost the super bowl.

it always came back to mcnabb, even when the eagles had the squad to get it done.

now not only do they not now, but mcnabb mentally is as finished as finished could be here. he hates the fans, resents kolb and the skill players, is aching to go lindros-clarke on the organization....its over for him in philly. please accept this. thats step one.

@ igy what else can you say about munson that hasnt been said already. im not even sure its funny anymore.

[Munson]

Kolb has zero arm strength.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAawoL6hiJ8


look at that duck.

Now imagine it against coverages that aren't blown.


You crazy if you think Brady has an arm like that wet noodle.

did you seriously just link a youtube video that shows a perfectly thrown ball, accuracy and pace as an example of Kolb's sucky arm?

wow, i never knew you could be this bad

lol at "perfectly thrown ball"

It was accurate, but it was a duck. The only reason why that's not an INT is because it was broken coverage. Any athlete anywhere close to Jackson is going to have time to recover and make a play on that ball.

Watch some more of this throws, especially on out patterns. He has no zip on the ball whatsoever. In an offense that loves to run comeback routes, he's going to get under cut and pick 6'd more times then anyone here will like.

[MDS]

im done. i cant...i just cant.

[Munson]

And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

And lol at trying to compare Tom Brady's arm to Kolbs. Brady has the strength to throw 55 yard bombs to Moss on point, Kolb could barely launch a duck 30 yards to DJack in wide open field.

Christ. This isn't worth it, but here goes: Kolb threw that pass that way because it WAS a farging broken coverage you clown. If he sucked as much as you profess, he would have under-thrown it, or muscled it and sailed it one way or the other out of DJax reach. The best QBs in the history of the game have taken what they are given. That's what Kolb did. Why would he rifle it in when 10 was running around by himself. Pitch and catch, you tool.


Anyway. I am in the camp that it's time to go with Kolb. It's obvious McNabb is not going to get you a Lombardi, so start the process of find the guy who will, like almost every other team in the league. If that's Kolb - great, if not, let's find that out while McNabb has some value.