Which players do you hope to see drafted?
Weatherspoon may be my number one wish right now.
I like Trent Williams the OT from Oklahoma too, but he'll go top 15 for sure.
phreak and the lil guy are sharing a canteen tonight
Kirwan has them taking Jason Pierre-Paul DE from S. Florida
I'd be surprised if he lasts that long but would like to see that pick.
I don't see Pierre-Paul falling that far, but Kirwan is a pretty sharp dude. I would love for them to take any pass rusher, I really like Sergio Kindle and Brandon Graham.
It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see them go after Maurkice Pouncey. As far as round 2 I would like to see them pick up Chad Jones, Dexter McCluster, or an LB
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Eagles | R. Sapp to work out
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Clemson DE Ricky Sapp wrote on his blog for The Times and Democrat that he has a workout scheduled with the Philadelphia Eagles for next week.
Ricky Sapp sounds like a NASCAR driver.
Didn't see it posted anywhere else, but there has been talk of the Eagles sending a couple people to watch the workout of the Fordham QB. He's like 6'5 250.
http://www.fordhamsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/skelton_john00.html
Not just a couple of nobody's either. It was the QB coach and Morningwheg. Pretty odd to send those two when you have three QBs on the roster already.
thats pretty nuts a guy from el paso texas goes to fordham to play football
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 16, 2010, 09:35:23 AM
Not just a couple of nobody's either. It was the QB coach and Morningwheg.
was this sarcasm?
He's an interesting prospect. I read something about him on a draft site about a week ago. He's gigantic, and seems to run well. He also has a cannon. He's going to be a late round or FA type from what you can read on the web.
Oh, and look test = fail
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The look test may be overrated.
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Nice muffin top, Tom.
but he's a snappy dresser.
Few QBs have the fashion sensibility to match their shorts to the stage backround. It's this kind of preparation and attention to detail that allows him to be a HOF qb and bang supermodels.
I can't believe the combine already happened and individual workouts are progressing. I am so disengaged this year I literally have no idea which teams have which needs or who should be targeted where. It's almost cathartic...
I'm not following it as much as I used to. I think I'm starting to lose some interest in football, probably began last year.
Although I'd be thrilled to see the Eagles win the SB, it wouldn't be as great as it would have a few years ago. With so many disappointments, it's almost like there's a small anticlimactic influence.
^That is the gayest sthein I ever heard.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 16, 2010, 09:46:54 AM
He's an interesting prospect. I read something about him on a draft site about a week ago. He's gigantic, and seems to run well. He also has a cannon. He's going to be a late round or FA type from what you can read on the web.
Second coming of Dan McGuire? :paranoid
But at least he's sporting a stylish goat...
official now....two 7th-rd compensatory picks for the guys they lost last year
YAY!
Quote from: NC_Eagle on March 17, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 16, 2010, 09:46:54 AM
He's an interesting prospect. I read something about him on a draft site about a week ago. He's gigantic, and seems to run well. He also has a cannon. He's going to be a late round or FA type from what you can read on the web.
Second coming of Dan McGuire? :paranoid
But at least he's sporting a stylish goat...
I read somewhere that he is the furthest thing you'd find from a leader..The article said something along the lines of the guy actually shys away from being a team leader while he lets his play speak for him.
Maybe that works at Fordham. It certainly wont work in the NFL.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 24, 2010, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: NC_Eagle on March 17, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on March 16, 2010, 09:46:54 AM
He's an interesting prospect. I read something about him on a draft site about a week ago. He's gigantic, and seems to run well. He also has a cannon. He's going to be a late round or FA type from what you can read on the web.
Second coming of Dan McGuire? :paranoid
But at least he's sporting a stylish goat...
I read somewhere that he is the furthest thing you'd find from a leader..The article said something along the lines of the guy actually shys away from being a team leader while he lets his play speak for him.
Maybe that works at Fordham. It certainly wont work in the NFL.
Sounds just like Donnie Mac. They'll draft this big bastich for sure.
QuoteEric Berry-DB-Player Mar. 25 - 7:22 pm et
Tennessee S Eric Berry has visits lined up with the Bucs, Chiefs, Browns, and Eagles.
Which team doesn't fit here? The Eagles would undoubtedly love to add Berry to their defensive backfield, but they won't get a chance to draft him unless they package their own pick with Donovan McNabb to move into the top-eight
That would be snazzy.
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the Raiders can throw in McFadden, Nnamdi and whoever else they want...McNabb will never go there
wrong thread potna
not really, the Raiders pick 8th
davis is dumb enough to trade for 5 without a contract extension...but probably not dumb enough for a first rounder. maybe.
Quote from: KDS on March 27, 2010, 01:09:11 AM
davis is dumb enough to trade for 5 without a contract extension...but probably not dumb enough for a first rounder. maybe.
he did it last year with seymour, so it wouldn't be unprecedented. but i don't think that al davis is nutty enough to do it in consecutive years.
you honestly think he remembers what he did last year? last week? yesterday? 2 minutes ago?
Sad farging thing is I remember what he was doing 28 years ago while he was hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and Vermeil was calling for another 3 hour practice after the game and Jaws was throwing more interceptions on the way to the hotel.
Yes, I am still bitter.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 27, 2010, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: KDS on March 27, 2010, 01:09:11 AM
davis is dumb enough to trade for 5 without a contract extension...but probably not dumb enough for a first rounder. maybe.
he did it last year with seymour, so it wouldn't be unprecedented. but i don't think that al davis is nutty enough to do it in consecutive years.
i think the 5 for asomougha is a no brainer. hes the best cb in the league. you move sheldon to fs and you have a lock down corner on one side and a go for broke interception machine on the other.
problem is asomougha is in the last year of his deal, his contract makes it tough to franchise him, and the eagles dont want to pay him cause hes gonna get cashed in next offseason.
on top of that you make 5 a miserable mess for 2010 and severely bring down his value on the open market in the offseason. stick it to him for 10 years of choking.
Who's the go-for-broke interception machine? Didn't you notice the part of the deal where Samuel goes to Oakland?
it does?
The Eagles have announced a private workout with Michigan punter Zoltan Mesko. Name test is either a FAIL or a MEGAPASS.
Multipass?
Having a punter named Zoltan = Superbowl
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 28, 2010, 07:33:33 PM
Having a punter named Zoltan = Superbowl
...or a granted wish to be "BIG."
Zoltan knows about the continuous transdingler.
I'm ordering my bubblewrap space suit from nflspaceshop.com right now.
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i would trade mcnabb and samuel straight up for azz in a heartbeat...wouldnt even need a pick
samuel is a cancer who can be controlled in a locker room like new england had...not here tho
and mcnabb would be addition by subtraction
Ashomuah or whatever would be a coup, no doubt, but I'd still want a draft pick.
QuoteMONDAY, MARCH 29, 2010
Eagles to reportedly work out Arizona DT
Arizona defensive tackle Earl Mitchell has a workout scheduled with the Eagles, a league source tells Joe Fortenbaugh of the National Football Post.
Mitchell (6-3, 295) started his college career as a tight end before switching to the defensive line for the 2008 and 2009 seasons. He had six sacks last year. Wes Bunting of the National Football Post has Mitchell ranked as the 24th-best defensive tackle prospect.
Earlier this month, Tony Pauline of SI.com put Mitchell in his "Risers" category for his combine workout:
Mitchell looked amazingly athletic for a defensive tackle who weighed in at 296. He was fast in the 40, twice breaking 4.75 seconds on stop watches, then practiced to that speed during drills. Mitchell was quick moving to the sidelines, displayed a burst in a straight line and was constantly applauded by coaches throughout the morning.
Per the report, Mitchell will workout for the Cardinals as well.
Earlier we wrote about the Birds taking a look at West Virginia offensive lineman Selvish Capers.
And don't forget to check out our updated list of prospect workouts and visits.
McNabb update
The report making the rounds today is from ESPN's Adam Schefter. Schefter reports that the Raiders have emerged as the front-runners for Donovan McNabb and that they are not concerned with him being in the final year of his contract.
We heard the same thing from Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports last week.
Let's remember a couple things here.
One, the Eagles are a franchise that kept the Michael Vick interest and signing completely under wraps until the deal was announced during that preseason game in August.
And the Raiders are run by Al Davis, meaning no one knows what they're capable of.
In other words, it is very difficult to know if something's close to getting done, or if a trade is nowhere near completion.
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Get, please.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2010, 09:59:12 AM
i would trade mcnabb and samuel straight up for azz in a heartbeat...wouldnt even need a pick
samuel is a cancer who can be controlled in a locker room like new england had...not here tho
and mcnabb would be addition by subtraction
How is Samuel a cancer? I hadn't heard of any problems but did you find some articles? I thought Sheldon Brown was the unhappy one, with the contract that he voluntarily signed and wished he never had.
He goes for INTs. Greedy b*stard.
cancer scumbag getting 9 int's. get him the farg off this team.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 28, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
The Eagles have announced a private workout with Michigan punter Zoltan Mesko. Name test is either a FAIL or a MEGAPASS.
You may have a future working for PFT.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 11:08:05 AM
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Get, please.
Other than McClain this dude is my favorite LB in this class. I would be ecstatic if they took him, but we know that ain't happening.
Quote from: phillycrew on March 30, 2010, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2010, 09:59:12 AM
i would trade mcnabb and samuel straight up for azz in a heartbeat...wouldnt even need a pick
samuel is a cancer who can be controlled in a locker room like new england had...not here tho
and mcnabb would be addition by subtraction
How is Samuel a cancer? I hadn't heard of any problems but did you find some articles? I thought Sheldon Brown was the unhappy one, with the contract that he voluntarily signed and wished he never had.
there was a lot of talk this year about not being coachable...completely ignoring directives...not studying film...basically not following the defense thats called on the field and instead always going for pick sixes...lack of effort in tackling and even more a lack of desire to get better at it...personally i could care less about the tackling...hes not that kind of player...but not being a a team guy and ignoring coaches is troubling
dont get me wrong i dont want to release him or anything and i love having a playmaker there but i wouldnt even blink if i thought i could get azz for him
I thought i heard he studies film all the time so he can pick up on qb and wr stuff where they tip off plays? Exactly the reason why he had 9 int's because he knew what route they were running
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 30, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
dont get me wrong i dont want to release him or anything and i love having a playmaker there but i wouldnt even blink if i thought i could get azz for him
Exactly.
getting him for Sameul straight up is a no brainer--its just when igy wants to throw in a 33 yr old franchise qb on top of it for free is where the problem lies
How about McNabb can franchise these nuts. What now?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 30, 2010, 11:28:27 AM
I thought i heard he studies film all the time so he can pick up on qb and wr stuff where they tip off plays? Exactly the reason why he had 9 int's because he knew what route they were running
no his jump on balls and reading quarterbacks is second to none...if you completely ignore all repsonsibilities except to watch a qb then of course youre gonna jump routes a lot
but he is not a good novacare guy according to a lot of reports that circle the team...i suppose they could all be lies but from watching him in games i believe there is more than enough smoke for their to be fire
Quote from: reese125 on March 30, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
getting him for Sameul straight up is a no brainer--its just when igy wants to throw in a 33 yr old franchise qb on top of it for free is where the problem lies
i would straight up cut mcnabb and not think twice about it...of course i want something for him as much as i can possibly get but if there was no market it for him id be like thanks for the memories bye bye
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 30, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 30, 2010, 11:08:05 AM
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Get, please.
Other than McClain this dude is my favorite LB in this class. I would be ecstatic if they took him, but we know that ain't happening.
Yep, and words creepin out that the jerkoffs up 95 want McClain to play MLB.
there is some outstanding depth at lb this year...the best ive seen in a long time...i normally am all about taking a lb in the first round but this is one year i wouldnt throw the remote if there was someone there who i really liked and they didnt take him....the 2nd to 4th rounds are chock full of guys that can become studs...i particularly like darryl washington and dekoda watson
Love Darryl Washington.
This draft should be all defense and an interior OL.
Those monkeys in the FO have no excuse for not drafting a descent LB in the first three or four rounds. As stated there is a lot of depth at LB this year.
Brian Price (UCLA DT) has a private workout scheduled with the team. He's projected to go around #24...
I just read this about him
QuoteIn the shadow of the Boz, UCLA defensive tackle Brian Price worked out for pro scouts Tuesday.
Price is widely seen as a late first-round pick that could be a 3-4 DE, but SI's Tony Pauline writes that he didn't help himself during his Pro Day Tuesday.
"He was sloppy and looked a bit out of shape. People commented on his poor body conditioning," Pauline writes.
We don't think he looks too bad in this video, but we established long ago that we know nothing.
Sloppy bubble for the lose.
I've always read /heard he has top 5 talent but no drive
Quote1 (24) Own Pick
2 (37) Acquired from Washington for QB Donovan McNabb
2 (55) Own Pick
3 (70) Acquired from Seattle in 2009 draft day trade
3 (87) Own Pick
4 (105) Acquired from Cleveland along with LB Alex Hall for CB Sheldon Brown and LB Chris Gocong
4 (121) Own Pick
5 (137) Acquired from Cleveland along with LB Alex Hall for CB Sheldon Brown and LB Chris Gocong
6 (200) Acquired from Indianapolis in 2009 draft day trade
7 (243) Compensatory Pick
7 (244) Compensatory Pick
Holy shtein they're stacked.
and Howie Roseman makes you feel all gooey and cozy inside knowing he's planning out this draft?
There's bound to be at least one trade up in there. I like the idea of them having five picks in the first three rounds, but I don't see the Eagles keeping all of them.
holy shtein great post romey....so farging jerkoffable...i feel like a lot of fans thing the eagles have a lot of picks but they are all 6th or 7th round...but bust out the telestrater and draw a line below the 4th round on that chart and then soil your bathing suit area
Having Phil Savage as a consultant and extra set of eyes may actually help...I trust him to help Shakedown.
well, he makes me feel gooey inside but not because of his personnel skills.
dude's sexy as hell.
Must be a Jew thing.
mother always wanted me to marry a jewish lawyer.
heh, mine too.
Good news for the draft is that there won't be a Flyers or Sixers playoff game on at the same time.
what about a Tesla concert?
not a fan of yours, reese, but yes...that was good. I laughed.
give it about 5 years...you'll learn to love me.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 11:09:07 PM
not a fan of yours, reese, but yes...that was good. I laughed.
lol
is there a fan of reese's? does this exist?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 11:09:07 PM
not a fan of yours, reese, but yes...that was good. I laughed.
the preface of this post is the best thing ive seen on this board in a long time
so funny
long time? its the third time shes prefaced it in 2 weeks. yeah we get it...youre not a fan.
Ill preface it each time I reply to you so you can really get giddy.
i'm not a fan of reese's ability to show for a tailgate.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 04, 2010, 10:48:25 PM
and Howie Roseman makes you feel all gooey and cozy inside knowing he's planning out this draft?
That's what scares the living shtein out of me. I could just see these tools drafting 9 offensive lineman and 2 undersized DE's that will be converted to OLB.
Not a chance control freak Reid lets Howie get all the say.
Scary to say this but I'm hoping most of the draft decisions are made by Reid this year.
Akers and Juqua Parker are the only birds 30 years of age or older. shtein. I forgot Parker's been in the league since 2002.
Actually, Parker has only been in the league for a few years. Some Juqua Thomas guy was around before that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 05, 2010, 12:56:56 AM
i'm not a fan of reese's ability to show for a tailgate.
"Yo Sarge--Im standing at Lot A where are you guys?"
"We're over at Lot Z under a light pole, hurry up...should only take you about another 35 minutes."
So if you walked to the right instead of the left, it would take 35 minutes. Walk to the right, and Lot A was right next to you. What a jerk
ha..cmon Sea, those quotes were fabricated to make a point man.
so was my point, just farging around bud. You are too cool to hang with sassy though, you missed out, he pees in the parking lot like common white trash :crazy
thats the thing though..I wasnt going to hang with him. I was only going to punch him in the nuts, pull a quick reach-around, take his bottle of Makers Mark and roll.
would have made for a great tailgate. much like the eagles, we found ourselves on the cusp of greatness only to fall short.
I'm really happy that this is the year I chose to ignore the Draft. 10 picks and 5 in the first three rounds. Probably nothing exciting going on here.
you didn't miss it.
No but I missed months of half-assed research and conversation and arguing and masturbating to my own opinions which is really all the draft is about. Well actually it's all anything is about, but you know what I mean.
i look forward to igy's coming obsession with the eagles drafting a certain muscular black man
QuoteStanford running back Toby Gerhart is scheduled to visit the Philadelphia Eagles on Tuesday and Wednesday, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
Found this interesting, but does anyone really think they would take him?
Also since it is draft related anyone know what the deal is with the pick next year for McNabb? Is that a performance based thing?
Quote from: Zanshin on April 05, 2010, 07:59:07 AM
Actually, Parker has only been in the league for a few years. Some Juqua Thomas guy was around before that.
:-D
QuoteTim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy ... and maybe Dan LeFevour and John Skelton. I said a couple of weeks ago that the Eagles had sent offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and quarterback coach James Urban to Fordham to scout mid-round prospect Skelton at his Pro Day. I have heard the Eagles will now focus on Tebow and are likely to join the parade of teams working him out and spending time with him. With seven picks in the first four rounds, Philadelphia has the ammo to go get the developmental quarterback Reid always likes to have on his roster. So don't think they won't be in play for one of these players
lol...Trading McNabb and then drafting this side-show would cause me to drop dead
My head just exploded reading that.
If they draft Tebow...
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As long as they wouldn't use one of there first 3 picks, I wouldn't care if they drafted Tebow. Yeah he is a christian douche, but he does have some talent.
I don't know that he will ever be a good NFL QB, but he seems to be picking up some steam leading up to the draft. I would much rather see them take someone later, like Ryan Perrilloux.
No way, no how on Tebow.
Perriloux would be interesting, but he's got some character issues. Not that the Eagles care about those anymore.
QuoteIn the three months since finishing his college career at Florida, Tim Tebow has worked with several coaches to help him develop NFL-quality passing mechanics. One of those coaches, Marc Trestman, is making a public endorsement of Tebow's ability to make it in the NFL.
"I believe in the right environment Tim Tebow will figure this out," Trestman told the News-Herald. "He doesn't have explosive arm strength, but he has more than adequate arm strength to throw the ball in the NFL and make all the throws. I saw him do something totally different in seven or eight days."
Trestman, who is currently the head coach of the Montreal Alouettes and has previously been an offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach for eight different NFL teams, says he was impressed with Tebow's eagerness to learn during their tutoring sessions.
"I can only imagine what he's going to do in one year or two years, because he's going to outwork everybody else and find a way to figure it out," Trestman said.
It's hard not to wonder why, if Tebow can pick up so much about the nuances of playing quarterback in seven or eight days, he didn't learn more in four years at Florida. But it's clear that coaches who spend time around Tebow usually come away impressed, and that may explain why he seems to be moving up draft boards.
That is impressive no matter what you think of Tebow.
Tony Mandarich impressed people too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2010, 10:27:24 PM
Tony Mandarich impressed people too.
That comparison literally makes no sense. Phreak you have been off your game here lately.
Dude, you bolded a part about coaches coming away impressed.
I said Tony Mandarich impressed people too. Hell, Jimmy Johnson and those people in Dallas were going to draft him until talked out of it.
Every guy is getting hyped at this time. Coaches and scouts love all players right now. What's so special about what you pointed out?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2010, 11:27:42 PM
Dude, you bolded a part about coaches coming away impressed.
I said Tony Mandarich impressed people too. Hell, Jimmy Johnson and those people in Dallas were going to draft him until talked out of it.
Every guy is getting hyped at this time. Coaches and scouts love all players right now. What's so special about what you pointed out?
Well Mandrich was a stud in college he just couldn't keep up with his roid regiment. Also you are comparing a "can't miss" tackle prospect to a project QB.
Read the whole article, I am just pointing out that coaches seem to think there is something to work with.
And I'm saying that every coach thinks there is something to work with on certain players. They all think they can mesh and mold guys right now.
Tebow sucks and will not be an NFL QB, in my opinion. I don't want the Eagles anywhere close to this dope.
I wouldn't mind Tebow as a late round project player type pick. But speculation is he'll go in round 1 or 2 now.
Quote from: Dalton on April 05, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
I wouldn't mind Tebow as a late round project player type pick. But speculation is he'll go in round 1 or 2 now.
Thats my point as well, if they were to take him in the first 2 rounds I would be beyond pissed.
Don't see any reason to go QB early here. If Kolb is serviceable, you're immediately putting even more pressure on the kid, especially if you bring Tebow and a media circus to town. If Kolb sucks bigtime, then this year is farged anyway. Go out and get another QB during the lockout next year.
The Packers took Brian Brohm fairly early after Favre retired. Then again they didn't have any other QBs on their roster.
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Eagles | R. McClain to work out
Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:41:54 -0700
Bo Marchionte, of NFL Draft Bible, reports Connecticut CB Robert McClain has a private workout scheduled with the Philadelphia Eagles Wednesday, April 7.
QuoteEagles | Meet with D. Alexander
Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:06:32 -0700
Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports the Philadelphia Eagles recently visited with Missouri WR Danario Alexander in Columbia, Mo., according to league sources.
QuoteEagles | Scheduled to meet with D. Davis
Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:34:56 -0700
Aaron Wilson, of the National Football Post, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are scheduled to meet with Arizona State DE Dexter Davis Wednesday, April 7, according to a source.
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Eagles | Showing interest in Dwyer
Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:07:05 -0700
Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are showing increased interested in Georgia Tech RB Jonathan Dwyer.
i can't wait for this shtein show of a season to start. seeing vick and tebow on the sidelines together would be amazing.
I'll send them a copy of All Dogs Go to Heaven.
ha!
I'm not sure why the Eagles would go after Dwyer unless you actually buy that they'll be running the ball inside more. He doesn't seem like a fit at all in this offense.
these 1st/2nd-rounders are in town tonight for workouts the next two days:
Eric Berry
Bryan Bulaga
Jonathan Dwyer
Brian Price
Toby Gerhart
Jerry Hughes
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 06, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
these 1st/2nd-rounders are in town tonight for workouts the next two days:
Eric Berry
Bryan Bulaga
Jonathan Dwyer
Brian Price
Toby Gerhart
Jerry Hughes
A smokescreen for the interest in Weatherspoon?! I hope.
I would love Dwyer too.
I think Mayock or Mcshay said that the two most over rated players in the draft are: Mays and Weatherspoon.
GET BERRY
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 06, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
these 1st/2nd-rounders are in town tonight for workouts the next two days:
Eric Berry
Bryan Bulaga
Jonathan Dwyer
Brian Price
Toby Gerhart
Jerry Hughes
A smokescreen for the interest in Weatherspoon?! I hope.
I would love Dwyer too.
I want no parts of Dwyer, I think he will struggle in the NFL. Really I don't want the Eagles to draft an RB early. They have too many pressing needs on defense.
Did anybody hear the Phil Savage interview on NFL Radio today? It was very interesting he came out and said expect the Eagles to go real heavy on defense. It is not too often that you hear personnel guys come out and say that.
Kirwan brought up how Savage doing so many SEC games this year should be a benefit to the Eagles. So hopefully they do go heavy on defense and guys from the SEC.
Damn, I missed that interview.
But I did hear Andy of all people echo that defense heavy thing. He said it to Domo or someone at the owners meetings
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
I'd rather not take a safety that high, I just think you can find good ones later in the draft. Safeties that are taken high are a risk imo.
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
I'd rather not take a safety that high, I just think you can find good ones later in the draft. Safeties that are taken high are a risk imo.
they tend to get shot in the dick.
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
I'd rather not take a safety that high, I just think you can find good ones later in the draft. Safeties that are taken high are a risk imo.
No doubt, but look what a good one can do for a defense. You have guys like Dawk, Polamalu, and Reed when those guys are on the field their defenses are usually very good to great.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
I'd rather not take a safety that high, I just think you can find good ones later in the draft. Safeties that are taken high are a risk imo.
No doubt, but look what a good one can do for a defense. You have guys like Dawk, Polamalu, and Reed when those guys are on the field their defenses are usually very good to great.
Two of those guys also get decent linebackers in front of them.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: Dalton on April 06, 2010, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
I'd rather not take a safety that high, I just think you can find good ones later in the draft. Safeties that are taken high are a risk imo.
No doubt, but look what a good one can do for a defense. You have guys like Dawk, Polamalu, and Reed when those guys are on the field their defenses are usually very good to great.
with you DMF. They can package up a ton to get him, i think he's really that good. Not to mention you peaking my boner more by saying Savage scouted the SEC all year....BOING Please let this happen
Savage didn't scout the SEC but he did the next best thing and was an announcer for Alabama. At least he was around a lot of SEC football.
same difference. He made more to be an announcer, and you know he studied like he was still in the FO.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2010, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 06, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
these 1st/2nd-rounders are in town tonight for workouts the next two days:
Eric Berry
Bryan Bulaga
Jonathan Dwyer
Brian Price
Toby Gerhart
Jerry Hughes
A smokescreen for the interest in Weatherspoon?! I hope.
I would love Dwyer too.
He's my #1 want in the draft, but I don't even think they even had a sit down with him.
Toby Gerhart. ??? Is he a Latter Day Saint?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
in a less deep draft id agree...but there are to many good players to be gotten in rounds 2-4 to give up a bunch of those picks...plus i think earl thomas has a shot to be as good as berry and he would come with a much lower price tag
Quote from: Don Ho on April 07, 2010, 02:27:10 AM
Toby Gerhart. ??? Is he a Latter Day Saint?
I'm serious. I think dude can play in the league. He ran a 4.5 and I think even lower than that at the combine. He farging mauled linebackers all four years at Stanford. His yards after initial contact were ridiculous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/RzCzj3fdET0
His FB is pretty farging legit too.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2010, 06:47:04 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 06, 2010, 10:56:11 PM
If it was me I would damn near trade all there draft picks if they could draft Berry. I know it is a pipe dream but he is a beast.
in a less deep draft id agree...but there are to many good players to be gotten in rounds 2-4 to give up a bunch of those picks...plus i think earl thomas has a shot to be as good as berry and he would come with a much lower price tag
I would be happy with Thomas. I was overstating a bit I really would like them to keep their 1st 3-4 picks because I don't see a big jump in talent with the first 50 players or so.
Weatherspoon @ 24
Nate Allen @ 37
Win.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2010, 10:13:47 PM
Weatherspoon @ 24
Nate Allen @ 37
Win.
I like it but I really just don't see the Eagles taking a LB in round 1. Especially considering how deep this draft is at that position.
i just put down 5 bucks with a buddy that the birds dont take a LB in the first, he's sweating weatherspoon hard. If i went LB, i'd go Kindle all day long
Kindle is 3-4 OLB..not 4-3 material, IMO.
He's still a muthafarging beast
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
Kindle is 3-4 OLB..not 4-3 material, IMO.
Well no one thought Orakpo could make the switch last year. I love Kindle almost as much as I liked Orakpo last year.
Yeah, and Orakpo didn't really start to take off until they let him rush the passer like he should be.
I'm wary of those 3-4/4-3 tweener guys. We've seen that too much.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 07, 2010, 10:52:50 PM
Yeah, and Orakpo didn't really start to take off until they let him rush the passer like he should be.
I'm wary of those 3-4/4-3 tweener guys. We've seen that too much.
Well the Eagles need another pass rusher I don't care what position it comes from.
i still think Kindle can be a beast if they move him i think. He's a big guy, 6'4 255, has speed to cover on the outside(he needs work, but he's got speed). He could also be a very nice MLB in this D, and you could move Stewy to SAM
I don't ever see him being a Mike in this league. Stranger things have happened, but I think if anything other than a SAM in this defense it would be DE.
I dunno man, that's kind of square peg, round hole dontcha think? DE to MIKE?
If anything let him stay with his hand in the ground
I guy I would love and up until a few weeks ago I wouldn't dream of them having a shot at is Derrick Morgan. If he slips past Jacksonville I think they would have to jump in front of Tennessee.
if youre going to make a switch like that with anyone do it with taylor mays from s to lb
and dont pay attention to orakpo's listed position the guy is a DE
Isn't there a highly touted center projected for late first round? I can almost guarentee that's where they go.
maurKice
Nick Mangold's sister (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/10/29/sports/29mangold.1.600.jpg)
hit
especially with the extra picks they have now...id be fine with him there and then go defense with the next several selections
would fit in with their youthful rebuilding as well...youd (hopefully) have your C-QB battery set for the distant future
TAYLOR MAYS GODDAMMITT!!
I'm excited about this draft, with so many picks is there anyone at all here who doesn't think they move up to make a top pick??
Quote from: shorebird on April 10, 2010, 08:53:26 AM
TAYLOR MAYS GODDAMMITT!!
I'm excited about this draft, with so many picks is there anyone at all here who doesn't think they move up to make a top pick??
I don't think they would have to trade up to take Mays.
Maybe not, but I have to think that with all those picks they will trade up for someone.
I'd like to see them move up and get Derrick Morgan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
especially with the extra picks they have now...id be fine with him there and then go defense with the next several selections
would fit in with their youthful rebuilding as well...youd (hopefully) have your C-QB battery set for the distant future
Not that I follow CFB or know any of the players, but most mocks have Maurkice gone long before the Eagles pick. Would you guys be happy if they traded up for a C? Or would that induce homicidal rage?
i cant see mays droppping to the eagles...he does have shortcomings but to much talent and had a very good combine...i think like half the league is basically trying to downgrade him in the hopes that he will fall
if he does fall i dont know how you dont take him
Quote from: MMH on April 10, 2010, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 08, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
especially with the extra picks they have now...id be fine with him there and then go defense with the next several selections
would fit in with their youthful rebuilding as well...youd (hopefully) have your C-QB battery set for the distant future
Not that I follow CFB or know any of the players, but most mocks have Maurkice gone long before the Eagles pick. Would you guys be happy if they traded up for a C? Or would that induce homicidal rage?
ive seen him to pittsburgh in some places but ive seen more than a few mocks have him go after the eagles....the best center every year always seems to have wide window of where they will go and is greatly determined by how the players fall..seems to me maurkice could go anywhere from like 15 to early second..to answer the question tho no i would not trade up for him
If Cincy doesn't take Mays I could see him falling out of the 1st round. From everything I have read and been hearing on NFL Radio they expect a big run on offensive lineman again in round 1.
I don't know if that is a good or bad thing for the Eagles. I want to see them go pretty much all defense, though they really need to add an interior lineman whether it is a guard or center.
I'd be fine with either Oline or LB, S
I feel linebacker is the biggest need on this team followed by interior o-lineman and corner, not necessarily in that order.
Which means they'll go WR in the first round...
Lineman in the first round, RB in the second, QB in the third.
Quote from: shorebird on April 10, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
I feel linebacker is the biggest need on this team followed by interior o-lineman and corner, not necessarily in that order.
i think that means that interior lineman and corner are interchangeble, neither as important linebacker. at least, that's the way i perceived it.
yeah that makes sense...then again ive never been accused of having a lot of reading comprehension...at the same time it might be giving shore a little to much credit to say thats what he meant
Mays is overrated to be in the first, get him like Justice came before, and its worth it
i wont saw jaw dropped but id be pretty damn surprised if mays made it out of the first...to me the question is does he make the birds or not
id say his o/u is exactly the eagles pick
the odds of the eagles staying put in the first round and actually making the pick at 24 are roughly eleventy billion to one.
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
the odds of the eagles staying put in the first round and actually making the pick at 24 are roughly eleventy billion to one.
yup. the question is, do they package one of the their 2 or 3 rnd picks with it to move up, or do they trade it for multiple low(er) round picks? i'd be shocked if they stand pat at 24.
they're going up. now that heckert's gone and there's no one left to reign in the fat man, there's going to be crazy movement up and down. reid can't resist trying to prove he's smarter than everyone in class and the draft is the perfect venue for him to do just that.
i agree but its roseman not reid....the midget accountant wants to make a punch you in the face statement to show he can play with the big boys...the mcnabb in division deal is proof of that
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Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
the odds of the eagles staying put in the first round and actually making the pick at 24 are roughly eleventy billion to one.
yup. the question is, do they package one of the their 2 or 3 rnd picks with it to move up, or do they trade it for multiple low(er) round picks? i'd be shocked if they stand pat at 24.
Unless someone rated high drops drastically I hope they only use a 3rd to move up, there's too much depth in the first 2 rounds and they have too many needs. I'd be fine with Mays at 24, he's not a big playmaker but his ceiling is ridiculous.
i just dont see the point of moving up in this draft....especially in the first or second round...talent abounds everywhere and its not like the eagles need to zero in on one position
i don't think they need to move up and they certainly don't need to move down in the first round. and i'd be thrilled with mays at 24, although i don't think he's going to be there.
you just never know with them. they rarely do what's conventional for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
Taylor Mays is a faster Michael Lewis with a healthy heart
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Taylor Mays is a faster Michael Lewis with a healthy heart
taylor mays left thigh can hit harder than michael lewis whole life
Dont talk about the Darkness that way
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2010, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: shorebird on April 10, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
I feel linebacker is the biggest need on this team followed by interior o-lineman and corner, not necessarily in that order.
You dmf'er. Ha! Only you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2010, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Taylor Mays is a faster Michael Lewis with a healthy heart
taylor mays left thigh can hit harder than michael lewis whole life
? Now thats good grammer. :-D
I don't see how anyone can compare Mays to Lewis. They are no were near the same type of player, imo. But yeah, Mays can hit harder than Lewis ever has.
american legion buds FTL
Since when do you go to the American Legion?
I just can't see igy sitting at the Legion with his pants halfway down his ass, flat brimmed hat on backwards, a shirt five sizes too big, and a big blingin' clock hanging 'round his neck.
I just can't see it.
i'd very much LOVE to see that.
i aint tryin to get strung up
that actually made me laugh.
I agree about not really needing to trade up.
They could stay at 24 and end up with Weatherspoon, Iupati, Pouncey or one of the top three corners. That is fine.
If anything, they'll want to trade down to get more of these super awesome players in round 2.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
i aint tryin to get strung up
Dont worry, they dont have strong enough rope
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 11, 2010, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
i aint tryin to get strung up
Dont worry, they dont have strong enough rope
And they're all too drunk to worry about it.
Busy day for Eagles' draft prospects
The Eagles had 17 prospects at the NovaCare Complex today with the draft now 15 days away, at least according to the count by James Madison linebacker Arthur Moats.
Among them were safety Eric Berry of Tennessee, TCU defensive end Jerry Hughes, and running backs Toby Gerhart (Stanford) and Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech).
"Philly was real nice," Moats texted to WHSV-TV in Virginia. "Their facilities were top of the line."
QuoteFormer University of Tennessee safety Eric Berry, a projected top-10 pick, had this to say on ESPN radio about his visit to the Eagles: "It did make me scratch my head, but obviously if they're bringing me in, that means they're interested. I don't know if they have something cooking up behind the scenes or what but I'll just be waiting till draft day and see where I end up."
Read this article last week, interesting take on the safety position.
http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftsafeties.php (http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftsafeties.php)
good read
I like that whole site, there is another good article on there about QB vs. DT 1st round bust ratio. DTs have the highest chance of becoming a first round bust.
Too much talk of LBs and safeties in this thread. Reid is gonna go OL or CB.
They won't have a good opportunity to go up and get Berry, and the fat man cares about LBs even less than he cares about his sons. Reid has never left a gaping hole at CB like he has right now, and you know he's gotta patch up that busted line to protect Kolb.
Watching the Birds' LBs in action is like witnessing Jonestown but Reid clearly doesn't give a farg.
i dont think anyone is saying reid will pick a safety or linebacker just that that is what most would like
in the first round he could pick any position except qb and it wouldnt suprise me
im down for the best player in round one as long as like four of the first five picks are defense
Reid's going up to the top of the draft.
Book it.
to pick some berries?
I'd be happy as farg. I wanted him to go after Michael Huff so what do i know. Oakland just ruins players
It's gonna be Pouncey.
And then Tebow in the 2nd, which, of course, would be followed by a single gunshot in the Rome household.
Quote from: Rome on April 13, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
And then Tebow in the 2nd, which, of course, would be followed by a single gunshot in the Rome household.
and we pray
I know we joke around a lot here, but that's messed up. Don't leave your family to deal with that. Take them with you.
that's called "The Chris Benoit"
nice
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 13, 2010, 12:05:55 PM
It's gonna be Pouncey.
I'm cool with that.
Not as cool as Weatherspoon, Earl Thomas or HOF Berry though.
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/deadpool183/benoitpillow.jpg)
Anyone more excited for the draft this year than recent years or business as usual?
wtf?
Quote from: King Cole on April 15, 2010, 03:18:05 AM
Anyone more excited for the draft this year than recent years or business as usual?
(http://gifnation.com/albums/funny/tardparty.gif)
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 15, 2010, 09:27:45 AM
Quote from: King Cole on April 15, 2010, 03:18:05 AM
Anyone more excited for the draft this year than recent years or business as usual?
(http://gifnation.com/albums/funny/tardparty.gif)
Thats just Munsons Eagle parties at his uncles crib.
Yeah, but totally shopped.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/16/five.things/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/16/five.things/)
Yes please.
Trading up to draft a safety doesn't exactly strike me as a slam dunk move.
its not, but it would be damn special to have guy that can pop hits like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hqGroNreE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hqGroNreE)
Quote from: rjs246 on April 16, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
Trading up to draft a safety doesn't exactly strike me as a slam dunk move.
It could be a home run, though. Or even a breakaway goal.
Or a live grenade to the neck.
Or a stingray barb to the chest.
....
Love the idea of Eric Berry, but I don't want to see them mortgage the whole draft to get the guy. Earl Thomas is nice and all, but I would rather see them stay where they are than move up to draft him.
Quote from: Rome on April 13, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
And then Tebow in the 2nd, which, of course, would be followed by a single gunshot in the Rome household.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpU4gIwnrgY&feature=related
Interesting take on the draft day trade between the Eagles and the Cowboys
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/ (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/)
The three players they got from that trade are Stewart Bradley, Brent Celek, and of course Kevin Kolb. Not too bad has the potential to be great if Kolb turns into a good NFL QB.
Quote from: charlie on April 16, 2010, 02:15:19 PM
Or a stingray barb to the chest.
I have to admit you are getting funnier. Good one.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 17, 2010, 01:55:01 PM
Interesting take on the draft day trade between the Eagles and the Cowboys
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/ (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/)
The three players they got from that trade are Stewart Bradley, Brent Celek, and of course Kevin Kolb. Not too bad has the potential to be great if Kolb turns into a good NFL QB.
They took C.J. Gaddis with the 5th they got from Dallas, they used their own selection in the 5th on Celek.
Quote from: SD on April 19, 2010, 04:50:11 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 17, 2010, 01:55:01 PM
Interesting take on the draft day trade between the Eagles and the Cowboys
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/ (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/)
The three players they got from that trade are Stewart Bradley, Brent Celek, and of course Kevin Kolb. Not too bad has the potential to be great if Kolb turns into a good NFL QB.
They took C.J. Gaddis with the 5th they got from Dallas, they used their own selection in the 5th on Celek.
exactly...but it doesn't stop Banner from pimping Celek as a reason they "won" that trade anytime he talks about it
Banner's been called on that many times. It's funny how he's almost militant about continuing the lie no matter what.
I was just going by what the article said. I can't say I am shocked that Banner is full of shtein about it.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post?id=13186
sal puke
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 19, 2010, 11:21:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post?id=13186
sal puke
I forgot that Dick Jauron is the DB coach now. :-D
Kiper:
1st = Kareem Jackson
2nd = Major Wright, Jon Asamoah
3rd = Navorro Bowman, Lamarr Houston
4th = T.J. Ward, Greg Hardy
uh no thanks
If you draft a Penn State player, you automatically have a bad draft.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 19, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
Kiper:
1st = Kareem Jackson
2nd = Major Wright, Jon Asamoah
3rd = Navorro Bowman, Lamarr Houston
4th = T.J. Ward, Greg Hardy
uh no thanks
lol - worst mock ever?
ha....major wright is like a 5th round talent
bowman and houston in the third would both be really nice picks tho
my idiot penn state loving buddy wants bowman more than i want jessica alba's choo-choo.
i doubt that
i like bowman but at the same time i think hes a tad overrated if you go by the "experts" draft boards...many people have him going in the second....i think he would be a decent third round grab
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 08:02:35 AM
ha....major wright is like a 5th round talent
so was Kolb.
sorry couldn't resist.
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.
it would be honorable if she was remotely accurate....i dont understand where the 5th round talk even comes from
multiple reports had him being better than Quinn.
really?...i never heard that...but he was easily a 2-3 rounder
the problem with the cobb pick was that they didnt need a qb yet traded down for one.....it wasnt that they overrated him
We'll find out whether they overrated him or not this year, I should think.
im saying at the time they drafted him
obviously lots of properly rated players and highly rated players dont turn out
then you have incredibly overvalued players that should have never been picked that dont turn out
cobb would fall into the first category
Meh, I've already forgotten what we were talking about.
the wire
The Wire?
Coat Hangers for everyone
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 08:11:19 AM
i doubt that
i like bowman but at the same time i think hes a tad overrated if you go by the "experts" draft boards...many people have him going in the second....i think he would be a decent third round grab
I agree with this, Bowman is nothing special. Penn State players (especially LBs) are overrated. This isn't the good ole days.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 20, 2010, 09:03:25 AM
multiple reports had him being better than Quinn.
He's the best QB from that draft and he's only played in two games.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.
if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.
Until then, no.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.
if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.
Until then, no.
Your strangely placed anger towards Kolb so far has been riveting.
I'm not saying Bowman isn't overrated. I don't know or care enough about him to dispute that.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.
if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.
Until then, no.
Your disdain for him makes little to no sense. You don't like him because of where he was drafted? He didn't have any control over that.
The main reason I like him is because he isn't McNabb. As far as Bowman I think them getting Sims pretty much makes that a moot point. Bowman would be a WIL in the NFL correct?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 20, 2010, 11:27:52 AM
The main reason I like him is because he isn't McNabb.
thats why she hates him
You're wrong. I've posted a NUMBER of times (before McNabb was traded) that they should blow up the team. Why am I once again explaining this?
Its not Kolb's fault. My anger isn't at HIM, its at the front office for (IMO) overvaluing a QB who I think is not up to starting QB standards. The same way I was never angry at Pinkston for his suckage. It wasn't HIS fault the FO/Reid made him a #1 WR in a system that passes a gazillion times a game. You all hated on him. But as a #3 WR he would have been a great fit.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 12:14:34 PM
You're wrong. I've posted a NUMBER of times (before McNabb was traded) that they should blow up the team. Why am I once again explaining this?
Its not Kolb's fault. My anger isn't at HIM, its at the front office for (IMO) overvaluing a QB who I think is not up to starting QB standards. The same way I was never angry at Pinkston for his suckage. It wasn't HIS fault the FO/Reid made him a #1 WR in a system that passes a gazillion times a game. You all hated on him. But as a #3 WR he would have been a great fit.
How, exactly, is he being "overvalued"?
He hasn't gotten a contract extension, and they're basically rebuilding the whole team and he's being given the opportunity to start. He was a projected 2-4th rounder, who they may have taken a little early... but who really cares?
It's a 1 year deal.
The comparison to pinkston is totally wrong. Pinkston was a Hoyda who was too scared to be a starting WR once he actually realized what it took to maintain the production he put up that one year before the contract extension.
No, its not wrong. Its a perfect example of the FO overvaluing their draft picks or free agents.
Something that has been talked about on here for years. Suddenly its not an issue because its Kolb?
Drink the KoolAid much?
i think shes saying they overvalued him when they drafted him
and the comparison to pinkston is horrible because cobb has yet to be a full time starter
its hard to compare him to many players because he has played but has yet to start...but if anything she should be comparing him to someline matt mccoy as a player who before ever starting was clearly a guy who couldnt play in the nfl
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 12:28:03 PM
i think shes saying they overvalued him when they drafted him
and the comparison to pinkston is horrible because cobb has yet to be a full time starter
its hard to compare him to many players because he has played but has yet to start...but if anything she should be comparing him to someline matt mccoy as a player who before ever starting was clearly a guy who couldnt play in the nfl
Well, McCoy was a given. But its not just drafting, its Free agents as well. Did ANYONE think Kirkland would help us at LB like they tried to sell us? Or that Small/Johnson, Pinkston/Thrash were actual 1-2 WRs?
And yes, I was talking about overvaluing him in the draft. Reaching and then anointing him the #1. Not KOLB's fault, not McCoy's fault, not Pinkston's fault, etc. They FO's fault. 100%
Pinkston & McCoy both had their shots to show what they have in the NFL and both failed.
Isn't Kolb worthy of being given an equal shot to prove himself especially considering what he showed in those two games last year?
I'm not saying he's going to be the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas or anything but burying him before he's even been given a chance to fail is unfair to the guy.
mccoy didnt deserve a shot...and what pg is saying is that cobb doesnt either...which is why thats an apt comparison
Sure he does...however, the FO should never put these guys in the positions they do
You mean the position where they learn behind a pro-bowl QB for four years rather than being thrown to the wolves. And then are given the keys to the car only when the pro-bowl QB is in the last year of his contract and the team can get compensated well for him? Oh and let's not forget that they surrounded this new QB with young, top-flight talent at the skill positions.
What a terrible position. McNabb should have been driven into the ground like an old Ford Escort Wagon. The reins should never have been passed. How could they ever even think to put Kolb in this kind of position?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 12:57:10 PM
Sure he does...however, the FO should never put these guys in the positions they do
why would you give him a shot if he sucks
either you think he can be good and now is the perfect time
or as you said you blow it all up including trading cobb
well, that's clearly not happening.
I also want that fat waste of space and Banner gone....so what?
Kolb was rated in the low 2nd -to- mid 3rd, and the Eagles took him with the #37 pick since they scouted him for 4-5 years and there was a pretty good chance he wasn't going to fall to #57 since Beck and Stanton went soon after. Reid sucks at gameday management and dieting, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QBs....
get your ass on the schedule trail....STAT!
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 20, 2010, 01:11:28 PM
Kolb was rated in the low 2nd -to- mid 3rd, and the Eagles took him with the #37 pick since they scouted him for 4-5 years and there was a pretty good chance he wasn't going to fall to #57 since Beck and Stanton went soon after. Reid sucks at gameday management and dieting, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QBs....
Why? McNabb sucked, remember? :P
I kind of understand what you are saying when it comes to the Pinkston and McCoy comparisons. But as rjs pointed out he was allowed to sit for a few years, unlike those other two that were thrown in right away and clearly couldn't play.
Bottom line is Kolb was a slight reach at the time, but not that much of one. I certainly understand being frustrated with the team, but you basically discount the guy when so far he has shown at least some ability. The same could not be said for the other two.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 01:13:10 PM
get your ass on the schedule trail....STAT!
Yeah, Ed...don't you have a leaked schedule to be posting?
Don't you have some children's Kolb jerseys you need to buy?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
No, its not wrong. Its a perfect example of the FO overvaluing their draft picks or free agents.
Something that has been talked about on here for years. Suddenly its not an issue because its Kolb?
Drink the KoolAid much?
I've been here for about a month, how do I know what people talk about here for years? Are we supposed to take classes before signing up?
Again, answer my question... how is Kolb being overvalued? I don't see it. He was drafted to be groomed for the future... he's been back there for 3 seasons(?) now... and he's going to be given a shot. How is that being overvaluing someone?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 12:57:10 PM
Sure he does...however, the FO should never put these guys in the positions they do
So the front office should never put football players in the position to play football? Got it.
Next topic.
Are jay ess had a great post about how Kolb is possibly being put in one of the more favorable situations possible, and everyone seems to be ignoring it. B+ for his effort, C- for all of you jerkweeds ignoring it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 20, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
Are jay ess had a great post about how Kolb is possibly being put in one of the more favorable situations possible, and everyone seems to be ignoring it. B+ for his effort, C- for all of you jerkweeds ignoring it.
probably because ive been saying it for six months
Most of us have, but he put it so concisely and obviously that even PG would have to agree with most of it.
no he put it the exact way ive (and apparently everyone else) have been for six months
So y'all blaming McNabb for his "failures"....do you put any blame at all on teh FO for NOT surrounding him with anything of all of those years?
He had plenty last year and blamed one of the losses to Dallas on "youth" rather than take it on himself.
a little but not much....if they were missing the playoffs they would deserve much more of the blame...but they were making championship games that they were favored in and not winning....and most of that is on the qb...
the qb made title games with talent around him...and without...with great offensive lines...and excellent defenses...and everytime he failed to win it all usually sucking in the process
we arent talking about a two or three year run here with the exact same team
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
So y'all blaming McNabb for his "failures"....do you put any blame at all on teh FO for NOT surrounding him with anything of all of those years?
Duce Staley, Terrell Owens, DeSean Jackson, Brian Westbrook all say "Hi!"
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
So y'all blaming McNabb for his "failures"....do you put any blame at all on teh FO for NOT surrounding him with anything of all of those years?
IMO Reid and the FO squandered years of opportunity with great players like McNabb, Westbrook, Dawkins, Brown, Lito, Trotter(and I think Michael Lewis pulled his wt as a run stopper). #5 didn't really have a go to guy until #81 arrived. I think the team had to make a change, did the right thing by giving Kolb a chance and I'm surprised the FO had the stones to do it :)
Quote from: charlie on April 20, 2010, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
So y'all blaming McNabb for his "failures"....do you put any blame at all on teh FO for NOT surrounding him with anything of all of those years?
Duce Staley, Terrell Owens, DeSean Jackson, Brian Westbrook all say "Hi!"
LOL at this post. Really?
i love how teams like tampa baltimore and the giants can pull off a sb win in far less chances than donnie had and oakland atlanta tennessee chicago ect...can all make the same number of superbowls but poor 5 never had enough around him
What they have surrounded Kolb with offensively in his first season >>>>>>>>>>> times infinity to what they surrounded McNabb with in all of his years here offensively.
Back to the draft... Don't expect the Eagles to get much more talent for Kolb. It's looking to be a defense-heavy draft.
HOW IS THAT FAIR TO POOR KEVIN?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: charlie on April 20, 2010, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
So y'all blaming McNabb for his "failures"....do you put any blame at all on teh FO for NOT surrounding him with anything of all of those years?
Duce Staley, Terrell Owens, DeSean Jackson, Brian Westbrook all say "Hi!"
LOL at this post. Really?
I'll take this as a compliment, Tina Fey.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
What they have surrounded Kolb with offensively in his first season >>>>>>>>>>> times infinity to what they surrounded McNabb with in all of his years here offensively.
really?
other than pimp where is the insane talent on this offense
ill take 04 anyday over this
04....the TO year. One year...and the FO farged that up too.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 20, 2010, 01:55:40 PM
Back to the draft... Don't expect the Eagles to get much more talent for Kolb. It's looking to be a defense-heavy draft.
HOW IS THAT FAIR TO POOR KEVIN?
The bastiches are throwing his career away, I tell ya.
OK, back on track here...this isn't about McNabb or Kolb. Its about my disgust with the front office and their propensity to reach for picks and then blow them up like they are more than they are.
I hope Kolb proves me wrong. There is nothing more than I'd like but to eat a big fat heaping pile of crow over this.
I just don't see it happening. I think its going to be another case of the FO screwing up.
until mack and mccoy prove to be much better nfl players (and i certainly think than can be)...you can make a strong argument for 03 being as good and maybe better...but either way its not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
buck
westbrook
staley
chad lewis
pinkston
thrash
vs
pimp
mack
mccoy
celek
avant
and we wont even get into the oline discrepency
If Celek is as good as he was last season I take him over Chad Lewis all day.
yeah and i would take any of those rb's + lewis over celek and shady all year
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
What they have surrounded Kolb with offensively in his first season >>>>>>>>>>> times infinity to what they surrounded McNabb with in all of his years here offensively.
Kolb is playing with the exact same guys McNabb played with last year.
Quote from: MURP on April 20, 2010, 04:25:45 PM
Kolb is playing with the exact same guys McNabb played with last year.
We can count on a Jackson knee injury in training camp now.
I'm talking about his entire career over the 10 year span....especially in his first 4 years starting out. Look what he had then, look what Kolb has now.
eagles made the playoffs last year
the year before mcnabb came they were 3-13
it takes time to build up
this is cobbs fourth year....mcnabbs fourth year was 2002
2003 (and of course 2004) is very comparable to this years talent
and like i said the offensive lines and the defense are nowhere near comparable
huge advantage mcnabb there
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 02:05:06 PM
until mack and mccoy prove to be much better nfl players (and i certainly think than can be)...you can make a strong argument for 03 being as good and maybe better...but either way its not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
buck
westbrook
staley
chad lewis
pinkston
thrash
vs
pimp
mack
mccoy
celek
avant
and we wont even get into the oline discrepency
Add Weaver to that list of the new school
QuoteAccording to our NFL Source, the Eagles and Chiefs have been discussing a trade over the weekend that would allow the NFC East team to move up to the fifth position so they could select Tennessee Safety Eric Berry. Per our source, Philadelphia believes he's the missing piece to their defensive woes of a year ago.
If this deal went down, the Chiefs could cash in on the Eagles war chest of draft picks. They have multiple picks in rounds two, three, four and seven.
There isn't any question that if the trade was consumated, that the Chiefs and Eagles would swap first round picks with the Chiefs sliding nineteen spots down to #24 and the Eagles getting the coveted fifth pick. In addition, the Chiefs would hope to acquire both of the Eagles second round picks #37 & #55.
However, we've been told that the Eagles are reluctant under any circumstances to give up the 37th pick they acquired from the Washington taterskins for quarterback Donovan McNabb. That still could work to the Chiefs benefit.
Either way, the question that Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli must ask himself is what compensation is fair if they're going to slide down nineteen spots in Round one and who would they be giving up if they didn't trade their first round pick.
PASS
Pretty sure this is a smoke screen, for what I have no idea.
If they trade up to a top five slot to draft a safety I will be perturbed. In fact, I would actually prefer that they trade up to draft an offensive lineman.
If the Eagles give up 24, 37 & 55 to go up to #5 they would be epically retarded. They can get a guy at 24 that would be a slight step below Berry and a guy who's equal to anyone available at 24 at 37. Plus there's always guys like Pimp who fall to 55 who they could luck into.
In short, don't even consider that sort of stupidity.
If they want 24, 55 & a fourth rounder, then fine. Otherwise, fargin pass, Doogie Howser.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 20, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
If they trade up to a top five slot to draft a safety I will be perturbed. In fact, I would actually prefer that they trade up to draft an offensive lineman.
they shouldnt trade up for either but berry is ten times better than any lineman in this draft
thomas is on par with berry...if youre gonna trade up for one of them thomas will come cheaper and should be the one
How long will Thomas be around on the board? Is he gone by the 24th pick?
Most likely he's a mid first rounder
If they could package say a 3rd with #24 for him that would work
Who do you think they will get and who do you want?
Including trade scenarios.
Most people have Thomas going between 10-15, and yes, if he's there around 12, it makes a lot more sense for the Eagles to trade up there than it does for them to move into the top 5.
to move from 24 to say 15 would take a second rounder
what about moving to 4 to get berry
why doesnt howie show how big his balls are
i want to see them
Chiefs want to move back and get more picks. I'd only do it for Berry, otherwise move up a few to get Thomas, he's got a good name
everyone is calling berry some kind of ed reed clone
and everyone is always right about these guys, they never get this stuff wrong
EVER
In terms you'll follow, he's HOF Berry
thomas is just about as good
i think its mayock...but one of the big name experts actually likes thomas better
im not even sure why thats being brought up
isnt it a forgone conclusion that theyre taking a defensive end......again?
also i just found out im going to be at a softball game on thursday night, not in front of my tv like previously thought
yea life decisions
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
to move from 24 to say 15 would take a second rounder
To use a comparison, the Eagles have traded from the late 20's before to move up to 14-16ish to take players. Like McDougle and Andrews. It cost a late 2nd rounder.
I think 37 would be kept in a trade-up and only 55 would need to be used.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2010, 04:49:40 PM
thomas is just about as good
i think its mayock...but one of the big name experts actually likes thomas better
It's Mayock, my big concern with Thomas is that a lot of Texas DBs that have come out haven't lived up to the hype ie Huff and Jammer. They were definitely better prospects coming out and neither has had the career that was anticipated.
Of course that doesn't mean too much, but it is worth bringing up. The flip side of that is Griffin has probably been a little better than "they" thought he would be.
Personally I don't really want to see them give up either of their second rounders. With as deep as this draft is supposed to be they would be better off taking as many players as they can.
Thomas is different from a lot of those DBs because his closing speed is ridiculous. He's more of a ball hawk and will likely force a lot of turnovers and cover well down field.
But if he's the last line of defense on a bigger WR or a TE running at him already with the ball, I have my concerns. Also, can he play close to the LOS?
That is the big concern with him....the playing at the LOS. I don't know that he could be considered more of a "ballhawk" than those guys.
Yeah, it is definitely a concern, but most players in the draft have concerns. I think his playmaking ability is too attractive to pass up IMO. He's really fast, and seems to have good instincts. After watching Sean Jones being stuck in quick sand when receivers run past him, Thomas would be a breath of fresh air.
Because of the depth of this years draft, would you be willing to trade next years first to move up in the 1st round this year, so you can keep your 2nd and 3rd rounders?
Uhhh... no. The schedule is tough and that could be a great pick.
I can't see any conceivable way they're giving up Washington's pick in the 2nd round. I'd bet the house Reid trades it for a #1 next year, so that way he can say that he turned the McNabb trade into a #1 pick.
Quote from: Munson on April 21, 2010, 05:49:46 PM
Because of the depth of this years draft, would you be willing to trade next years first to move up in the 1st round this year, so you can keep your 2nd and 3rd rounders?
If you are talking about moving up to say KC's spot you would still have to give up probably your second #2 and a #1 next year.
Didinger was just talking about them moving up far, he said he thinks they would like to do it but it probably would cost too much.
Next years draft minus a CBA means that the draft will be so far a bust. A ton of underclassmen came out this year to avoid not getting drafted or not making money next year. Rare situation here.
Quote from: Rome on April 21, 2010, 06:05:27 PM
I can't see any conceivable way they're giving up Washington's pick in the 2nd round. I'd bet the house Reid trades it for a #1 next year, so that way he can say that he turned the McNabb trade into a #1 pick.
McNabb was already a 1st round pick.
By the way they traded 5th round pick A.J. Feeley for what turned out to be the #34 pick, but that turned into Reggie Brown, who fizzled and was traded for a jock strap. Good times.
my wants for the draft thru the first four rounds...i included three guys for each selection...obviously many of these guys could go much higher or lower but i ranked them the best i know
ROUND 1
1. earl thomas
2. maurkice pouncey
3. kyle wilson
ROUND 2
1. devin mcourty
2. daryl washington
3. dexter mccluster
4. taylor mays
5. ricky sapp
6. everson griffin
ROUND 3
1. chris cook
2. jon assamoah
3. reshad jones
ROUND 4
1. dekoda watson
2. greg hardy
3. jerome murphy
4. jared veldheer
5. alex carrington
6. taylor price
Any opinion on trading up to ~12 and taking Derrick Morgan instead of Thomas?
I don't know man. With as many picks as the Eagles have, and as few screaming needs, the temptation to trade up for a stud is powerful.
I wouldn't though. I think there's enough talent throughout the draft that it pays better to use the picks on several solid prospects rather than consolidate them into a bigger bet.
Of course, I don't know how good Morgan is, or will be. Don't even know enough about him to have an opinion on it. I do recall what happened the last time Reid liked a DE so much that he moved up to get him.
im super wary of trading up in this draft because of the depth...and that even goes for thomas who i love...i defintely wouldnt do it for morgan...they need a pass rusher...a guy blasting from off the edge and i see morgan as a more talented abiamiri
I almost would rather trade their 1st from next year based on how next years draft is shaping up because of the CBA
I also don't understand the idea of trading up in this draft. If this draft is supposed to be full of talent, why not keep all those draft picks and take the your highest rated player left on the board when your pick rolls around. Surely not all of them are going to pan out, why not draft a bunch and hope for the best?
Guys guys guys, I thought we had already established that Howie knows best. In Howie we trust. Etc etc.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 22, 2010, 09:00:42 AM
I also don't understand the idea of trading up in this draft. If this draft is supposed to be full of talent, why not keep all those draft picks and take the your highest rated player left on the board when your pick rolls around. Surely not all of them are going to pan out, why not draft a bunch and hope for the best?
or wait and use them for when a guy you really like unexpectedly falls close to you and use a mid rounder to move a couple spots instead of multiple higher picks to move way up in the first
the eagles arent good enough to mortage a bunch of picks for a perceived stud...again especially in this type of draft
i think they give up their first and the second 2nd to move up to Miami's spot to take Thomas
I think they make some trades and get some players and we'll like some of them and dislike others and be confused by something and look tests will be administered and beer will flow like wine and high fives will be had by all.
I'm not high fiving any of you freaks.
that sounds wonderful...what about penis comparisons?
berry is definitely hung like a mountain lion
I'll just strut around with my balls hanging out of my zipper. Deal?
well then, this certainly has been a productive morning for me
the only thing that scares me about Thomas is the dude isnt a hitter. He's not a physical saftey, he's a cover guy who has incredible instincts, but he's coming out after one season at Texas. One year wonders worry me
Why on earth would the Eagles invest two (maybe more) picks and a ton of money on a safety in the first round? I don't like it, dammit.
Saftey is a valued position in this defense, and the lack of a presence back there last year was painful.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 08:53:29 AM
im super wary of trading up in this draft because of the depth...and that even goes for thomas who i love...i defintely wouldnt do it for morgan...they need a pass rusher...a guy blasting from off the edge and i see morgan as a more talented abiamiri
Last week I was kind of hoping they would trade up for Morgan, but the more I think about it the more I just want them to stay put. They really need to keep both their 2nd rounders, especially the 37th pick.
From what I have read and heard on the radio though, they don't want to get rid of the 37 for anything really.
gonna be a fun night, Draft, Flyers.
And watching Moyer give up 5 in the first to the Braves.
Rewriting the 5,000 word document I just closed without saving.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 22, 2010, 10:02:01 AM
Why on earth would the Eagles invest two (maybe more) picks and a ton of money on a safety in the first round? I don't like it, dammit.
This.
I am also wary of trading up in the first round. Like most of you I have read the King article saying they will use their one the the two they got from the Skins to trade up to the 11 spot, which I think would be a horrible move. This is one of the most stocked drafts in recent history, so to trade up using this years picks just sounds dumb. Now if HowieCo wanted to trade next years first along with this years first to get up to 11 I would be OK with that, but I doubt anyone outside of the Raiders would bite on that.
I still think Pouncey is the way to go, which means they'll take a CB but whatever.
if you arent willing to trade up for a safety then you definitely dont wanna trade up for a center
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 22, 2010, 09:56:50 AM
the only thing that scares me about Thomas is the dude isnt a hitter. He's not a physical saftey, he's a cover guy who has incredible instincts, but he's coming out after one season at Texas. One year wonders worry me
ed reed isnt physical either...in fact thomas' best quality is that he isnt a big strong guy...because he can play corner if you need him as well...and he is inexperienced but i see that as great upside rather than to young...guys not even 21 and oozes talent
I like Thomas, but I can't see the Eagles trading up to select a safety. In fact, I would be shocked if they did. I think the Thomas stuff is a smokescreen, I think their real target is Derrick Morgan. Just a hunch.
In that case they suck at smoke screens, because multiple sources are reporting that Morgan could be the target at #10-#12. Sal Pal just reported that they could trade up as high as #5 but it would be for Pierre-Paul or Morgan, not Eric Berry.
Baby step to 7:30, baby step to 7:30.
Oh, and CNNSI has an article about possible veterans being dealt during draft weekend. Many players are mentioned, like Marion Barber and Osi Umeniyora, but no current Eagles. The only guy they mention that the Eagles could be in the hunt for is Rocky McIntosh of the skins. Meh.
Personally, I'm hoping they trade down and up and have like 5 picks in the 2nd round.
the eagles have no more veterans to trade
Quote from: SD on April 22, 2010, 01:51:33 PM
I like Thomas, but I can't see the Eagles trading up to select a safety. In fact, I would be shocked if they did. I think the Thomas stuff is a smokescreen, I think their real target is Derrick Morgan. Just a hunch.
I think you can cross off every name that's been throw out there because in all of Reids draft history, has anyone actually pegged their pick?
Peter King thinks they are trying to trade up to draft JPP. Not sure I would like that too much. He just seems like a workout warrior to me. Incredibly athletic but too much boom/bust potential.
In this weeks SI, King has the Eagles trading up to get Morgan. Im not sure what you're referring to.
Peter King, like everyone else, wants to sound smart so in the days leading up to the draft they will float several different theories in several different venues and if one of them hits he'll claim that he saw it coming.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/22/draft.day/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0lqyQdr5A
To trade up to #15 from 30, the Eagles had to part with their second which was #62, meaning if they want to move up to 10 I doubt they'll have to part with the #37. I'm thinking a combo of their late second and a later pick.
LOL FF
It seems as these are the guys linked to the Eagles the most:
Kyle Wilson
Earl Thomas
Devin McCourty
Maurkice Pouncey
Mike Iupati
Kareem Jackson
Derrick Morgan
Which means cross all of 'em off the list.
I want Weatherspoon, Thomas, Wilson or Iupati.
They're going to trade Vick & the Washington 2nd for Roethlisberger.
Book it.
I will punch you in the taint if that happens, Rome.
Punch SD. He came up with it.
You get punched in the taint, and he gets punched in the o-ring.
NO on Devin McCourty. I watched him for 4 years at RU and at no point did I ever think he would be a first round draft pick. No, no, no.
Please no Pierre-Paul.
i love prince paul but if they trade up to 5 for him ill flip out
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
i love prince paul but if they trade up to 15 for him ill flip out
id be ok with that....the prince has a chance to be the best edge rusher in the nfl...cant ask for anything more than that
Trading up for fast balls always works for this team.
I'm just excited that his high school grades weren't good enough to get into FSU or any other state university. High school is hard and shtein.
He doesn't have to be smart. "You! Big dude! Tackle that guy!"
By the way, thanks to DH, put McCourtey on the books.
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
Trading up for fast balls always works for this team.
hes bigger than derrick morgan
and it would be stunning if mcourty went first round to anyone...eagles could def target him round 2 tho
No on JPP also. George Selvie was doubled a shteinload down there which gave JPP an opportunity for a clear lane to the QB. I don't understand why he has shot up so many boards...Because his size? His long arms? I think he has bust written all over him..
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 04:03:07 PM
and it would be stunning if mcourty went first round to anyone...eagles could def target him round 2 tho
He won't make it past the Jets at 29.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 04:05:42 PM
No on JPP also. George Selvie was doubled a shteinload down there which gave JPP an opportunity for a clear lane to the QB. I don't understand why he has shot up so many boards...Because his size? His long arms? I think he has bust written all over him..
his talent is off the charts
he could be a bust but ill take his upside over vanilla boring derrick abiamiri anyday
The Eagles are going up to get Earl Thomas.
Figure 13 or 14 and for that they're giving up 24, 70 & 121.
This draft is too important to take a high risk guy like JPP. DE is a huge need don't get me wrong, but they need to fill one need at a time and fill them correctly. Fix safety. Earl Thomas is available if you trade up. Then go down the list and fix the other needs. If you trade up and essentially waste multiple picks on JPP it would stunt the growth of this team a great deal.
Quote from: King Cole on April 22, 2010, 04:10:41 PM
This draft is too important to take a high risk guy like JPP. DE is a huge need don't get me wrong, but they need to fill one need at a time and fill them correctly. Fix safety. Earl Thomas is available if you trade up. Then go down the list and fix the other needs. If you trade up and essentially waste multiple picks on JPP it would stunt the growth of this team a great deal.
i love both safetys but you dont really want to trade up for that position...you can get good safetys all over the place...elite pass rushers primarily go first round...now if you just dont like prince paul because of his bust potential thats fine but in terms of the position he plays its def one that warrants trading up for
Jerome McDougle says hi
Safety is the only glaring weakness on the team that absolutely has to be addressed. Yeah, they need to get a cb, lb & de but if they get a shot at Berry or Thomas and don't take it, they're going to be sorry.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 22, 2010, 04:16:10 PM
Jerome McDougle says hi
you mean not every DE in the history of the first round has panned out?
brilliant ish
I'm fine with trading up for a DE if I really like them. I'm not a huge fan of the DEs in this draft. None really impressed me. I never watched GT and was wowed by Morgan. He was a nice player and I wouldn't hate it if we traded up for him, but it isn't like he's Mario Williams. JPP never stood out when watching USF.
I think it is more important that the team fixes each need correctly rather than prioritizing. Add the best player available and I think Thomas is a better football player than Morgan and much better than JPP.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 22, 2010, 04:16:10 PM
Jerome McDougle says hi
you mean not every DE in the history of the first round has panned out?
brilliant ish
Just saying. Same guy calling the shots and all.
I trust Reid's evaluation of DBs better than LBs and DLs by leaps and bounds.
I just hope Howie calls King Cole first to find out if he really likes the players he's targeting.
Perhaps you can get a good safety anyplace, but with the exception of Quentin Mikell which was a stroke of undrafted luck, the Eagles have done an extremely poor job of drafting safetys late in the past...Damon Moore, Demps, Macho (even if he was drafted as a CB). I agree w Rome - if they can trade up for Thomas, they have to do it.
They need a defensive end who can wreak havoc along with Killa. That guy doesn't appear to be in this draft at the top.
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
The Eagles are going up to get Earl Thomas.
Figure 13 or 14 and for that they're giving up 24, 70 & 121.
24 to 14 would be done with the skins pick by itself or like 55 and 200
Quote from: Diomedes on April 22, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Just saying. Same guy calling the shots and all.
I trust Reid's evaluation of DBs better than LBs and DL by leaps and bounds.
i was talking in a general sense...if youre saying reid will be gun shy to trade up for a DE because of the mcdougle move then id say that quite a stretch...every player is evaluated on their own merits and reid seems like the opposite kind of guy who would let his emotions dictate a draft pick
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Perhaps you can get a good safety anyplace, but with the exception of Quentin Mikell which was a stroke of undrafted luck, the Eagles have done an extremely poor job of drafting safetys late in the past...Damon Moore, Demps, Macho (even if he was drafted as a CB). I agree w Rome - if they can trade up for Thomas, they have to do it.
Damon Moore wasn't awful before his injury, and JR Reed showed real promise before his.
The Eagles are not going to trade 37 to go up 10 spots in the first round. I already posted this earlier but it's a gut feeling that they're going to trade that for a #1 next year.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Perhaps you can get a good safety anyplace, but with the exception of Quentin Mikell which was a stroke of undrafted luck, the Eagles have done an extremely poor job of drafting safetys late in the past...Damon Moore, Demps, Macho (even if he was drafted as a CB). I agree w Rome - if they can trade up for Thomas, they have to do it.
true but to be fair
unless im forgetting someone
other than michael lewis
hes never taken a safety in the first three rounds has he?
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
They need a defensive end who can wreak havoc along with Killa. That guy doesn't appear to be in this draft at the top.
Agreed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 04:22:42 PM..if youre saying reid will be gun shy to trade up for a DE because of the mcdougle move then id say that quite a stretch...every player is evaluated on their own merits and reid seems like the opposite kind of guy who would let his emotions dictate a draft pick
Not saying that at all. I agree that Reid is too stubborn/arrogant/confident to shy away from a DE just because he sucks at evaluating them.
well seems after hearing eric berry on mikey miss that feels the eagles seem to be very interested and may be trying to move up to get him.
The Eagles traded into the area of 15 or so a few times by only giving up a late 2nd rounder in the past. Not sure it would cost much more to trade to 12.
I'll be the first to buy an Eric Berry jersey if it happens but it's not gonna happen. It would cost them too much to get into the top 5.
Eric Berry could slip. Stranger things have happened. Teams might be worried about picking a safety top 10 and the talk of Cleveland and stuff could be trying to bait the Eagles to trade up.
if this dood is gonna ed reed what price isnt worth it?
youve got think its better to have the best safety in the game as opposed to a kind of good defensive lineman and two backup tackles
i agree it's probably not going to happen but it does seem the team is definitely trying to move up.
billick is on mikey miss right now.
Come on man. Ed Reed is walking into the hall of fame first ballot. Him and like, what, 200 other safeties?
If Berry turns out that good, it would be one in a trillion.
No on Pierre-Paul for me too.
Fo fo fo
5..
So Pierre-Paul it is then.
I don't know any of these people, but I'm on board. Death to hyphenated names!
If the Eagles get him, who play the role of Dan the Automator?
Take it FWIW but Eskin said that teams are worried about a recurring injury that Berry has with turf toe. It bothered him throughout his career at Tenn so he might slip.
so thats what reid told him to say. interesting.
that was probably put out by the dolphins, jags, niners or someone else in the 8-12 range in hopes that he slips
Eskin also is saying the Eagles will absolutely not trade up for Berry and they are worried about the injury. He said a few times in the show to watch out for JPP or Morgan.
he also said shawn andrews was going to be a long holdout, trotter would never be brought back by the eagles & the that the eagles would never bring owens here. all were stone cold locks in his words.
Eskin is connected, you can't deny that. But the Eagles could very well be using him to send out smoke screens.
Holy shtein who cares?
Can you deny this?
Seeing that the draft topic is 29 pages before the thing has even started, I would venture to guess people are interested in rumors and rumblings and that kind of stuff.
you took my response too seriously cole. i could care less what burger farger thinks.
I'm a rumor and draft nut, I was up 6 am this morning reading draft crap. I still have no interest in what Eskin says regarding anything.
I'm actually Howard Eskin.
Which makes everyone even less interested in what Eskin says or thinks. I actually hope you are Eskin because that would make me laugh. At your listeners.
I wouldn't have a problem with JPP he has played very well and is an absolute athletic freak. Selvie was a shell of himself this past season, so I don't by the argument he was a product of playing with him.
Can't wait for this thing to start, though I am still pissed about the new format.
Quote from: King Cole on April 22, 2010, 05:11:11 PM
I'm actually Howard Eskin.
so you'd know how pimples are on reid's ass. congrats.
joe banner on comcat right now!!
saying...nothing
Shocking!
Man, I wish I could watch that. I'd get to turn it off and be all happy about it. You guys are so lucky.
Heading to a draft party on a Thursday night....weird.
yeah, i despise what they've done to this thing. saturday draft day at noon was the farging greatest
I usually have at least 25 people over to the house for the draft on Saturday.
I have one tonight. And a 12 pack of Corona.
I literally hope Roger Goodell gets hit by a truck tonight on his way home from a fag bar in the Village.
Walter Peyton's daughter is hot as balls.
And she's brown sugar too. Paging IGY...
this is the worst thing ive ever seen
shes not that hot shes just presenting well
btw the one good thing about the draft change is that you get my steller commentary all night
my liver would also like to thank mr goodell
I forgot. You don't like stunningly hot black women. Only ripped black beefcake.
not hot
(http://www.chicagodefender.com/imgs/hed/art3520widea.jpg)
What's that white stuff all over the photo?
blow
mayock is doing his mock and predicts the eagles to move to 12-15 and get thomas
you watch nfln over espn?
I'm gonna flip between the two. I can't get enough friendly banter.
it really is delightful
You said it, Mo.
yeah i flip
mel is my favorite but espn has way to many people now and mels gets shorted
poor commissioner doesn't realize no one wants to hear him talk
goodell is trying so hard to be excited and cant even come close to doing it
on fios nfln is like 400 octaves louder than espn
Is that a good thing? Do we want that?
meaningless
i stick with ESPN until the Birds pick and i'll flip
haha...reggie brown is the first "Add" listed for the Bucs
offseason fail
I miss the good old days when the first four picks took an entire hour.
the guy really doesn't like Tampa Bay
Gerald Mccoy
Weaknessses: tear ducts
Excitement building for the Skins to farg this pick up.
I love this guy McCoy
if the skins take berry i will be upset
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 07:17:59 PM
not hot
http://www.eyeglasses.com/ (http://www.eyeglasses.com/)
In other news, holding the Draft on a Thursday is Teh Gay©
mel farging LOVES jimmy clausen
Mayock nailed it. When Mayock says you don't show up on film, you usually fail. Let's hope this dude is Robert Gallery ver. 2
did the commissioner just make a racist remark?
Mel loves everybody. Who keeps giving him E?
Quote from: SunMo on April 22, 2010, 07:59:06 PM
did the commissioner just make a racist remark?
Silverback
NFLN over ESPN by far. Not even close.
Good to see the Skins pass up Okung.
so the commish can announce a nickname and have a little fun inside joke at the draft podium but players can barely celebrate anymore
CONSPIRACY!
lol @ espn comparing eric berry to ronnie lott.
jesus farging christ.
the draft is not half as interesting when i'm not obliterated. berry taken at 5.. what safety should i be hoping they take now?
brian dawkins
i hear he's not a factor anymore.
That woman sitting next to Okung is farging horrifying.
i had to laugh when within about a seven minutes span mayock says:
"trent williams just doesnt show up on film"
"plug em right in and play em russel okung will be there for the next 10 years"
There's already a thread on ES called The Tribe of Trent. Sickening, thos iceholes.
So much for the trade up for Berry....that dude passes the look and sound test. Loved his interview with $ander$.
Ok, so who goes now?
DEZ BRYANT?!?!
Looks like Joe Haden and his huge ears will go 7th.
i knew there was no chance of getting him but i farging love joe haden
does this mean asomunga is gonna get traded
oh i thought the raiders traded up to get him
Who's the cat in the waiting room with the big white sunglasses and the dreads? Look test MEGAPASS.
Bwahahahaha
The Raiders just jacked the Giants.
All week on Sirius those jizbag New Yorkers were on McClain's nuts.
raiders are a joke
Get kirk Morrison.
GET.
Bills just ran to the podium...
Wow...CJ spiller
Jimmy Claussen is gonna drop like a rock...arrogant prick that he is
i understand the bills didnt really need spiller but why was everyone on espn going crazy when the pick was announced...he was picked right where he should have been
Because ESPN is a joke?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 08:34:20 PM
i understand the bills didnt really need spiller but why was everyone on espn going crazy when the pick was announced...he was picked right where he should have been
Uh.............because it's ESPN? NFLN ftw
farg clausen.
hoping to see thomas sporting the green !
lol...who?!?
Tyson Alalalaoloalou?
THIS THURSDAY NIGHT shtein SUCKS
thats an awesome pick for the birds...now they just need a run on qb's to push more talent down the board
Hopefully Spoon makes it past NYG at 15
Or the Birds trade up to 12 and steal him (or draft Earl Thomas)
I want nothing to do with Spoon. Give me one of the kids from TCU.
TRADE
SF jumps ahead of MIA
Will the Eagles trade up to 12 now?
i want to thank the flyers and phils for making it easier to watch the draft.
baluga here?
lacanfora saying davis
I wouldn't be surpised to see the Eagles jump up and grab Kindle (SAM) or Pierre-Paul.
Wow....Bulaga still on the board.
Quote from: smeags on April 22, 2010, 08:42:33 PM
i want to thank the flyers and phils for making it easier to watch the draft.
Bigger probability of farging up what could be a great Philly sports night:
Howie or Madson?
pray thomas doesnt go here
SD traded up...
they're gonna take a RB...
damn my cell is too slow to keep up here. agreed on sd taking a rb
what an awful trade up if they take a rb
No way they go RB. It's a NT or a DB.
EDIT: Ha. What a god awful trade and pick.
Ryan Matthews
this couldnt be going better for the eagles
Holy shtein. EARL THOMAS BABY!!!!!!!!!
Eagles traded up! 13th pick
I still don't like the idea of trading up this year.
TAKE HIM OR ELSE I KILL
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 22, 2010, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: smeags on April 22, 2010, 08:42:33 PM
i want to thank the flyers and phils for making it easier to watch the draft.
Bigger probability of farging up what could be a great Philly sports night:
Howie or Madson?
Utley's applying for the job.
i will kill myself if its morgan
better be thomas
Chargers gave up WAY too much to move up there.
Oh, sweet Jesus.
Holy farg, Birds traded up...Ear Thomas Time
Eagles gave up their first and a THIRD to move up!! Chargers gave up their first, a second, AND a fourth. lol
I thought he said two 3rd rounders?
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 22, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Eagles gave up there first and a THIRD to move up!! Chargers gave up their first, a second, AND a fourth. lol
Spadaro says the Eagles gave up both third rounders.
Quote from: Munson on April 22, 2010, 08:54:32 PM
I thought he said two 3rd rounders?
I think they said that Denver got two extra third rounders.
Might've been. Didn't catch it all. The fact they kept their second rounders is a coup.
two thirds
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow.
brandon graham
And I still don't like that they traded up.
...............
booo
hahahahahaha
kmao
high character motor guy
im done with this draft already
fargin' Eagles
Safe pick for Andy..ha
i just flipped out at friggin softball game
I HATE THIS TEAM
sal is a moron...never would they have to have given up that pick
:-D
I like that its defense
I hate that its not Earl Thomas
I just had this feeling they were going to do something no one saw coming. I thought it would be in a good way. Graham better turn into a Freeney.
i actually thought it would be a DE but i thought morgan
WE'RE SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE!
this farging team sucks my cork
So, I guess they don't like Darryl Tapp THAT much, huh?
I suppose that they think they got the best pass rusher in the draft. He farging better be, or the pick sucks anus balls magoo.
lol at three threads
Earl Thomas is a Seahawk. I knew he was going there because Pete Carroll was leg humping him at Texas' Pro Day. Thats why I thougt the Eagles trading up was for Thomas.
Carroll loves the guy
go flyers !
O/U on Earl Thomas pro bowls = 6
O/U on Brandon Graham career sacks = 5
everyone loves thomas except the eagles
why the farg would the eagles take a 3-4 linebacker type
this guy is a worse edge rusher than even morgan
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 22, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
O/U on Earl Thomas pro bowls = 6
O/U on Brandon Graham career sacks = 5
Under (5)
Over (7), cut in his fourth year after being injured and otherwise farging useless
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 09:05:03 PM
everyone loves thomas except the eagles
why the farg would the eagles take a 3-4 linebacker type
this guy is a worse edge rusher than even morgan
To move him to SAM like the last 3-4 guy?
I like the pick....goddammit I just wish it was Thomas. farging idiots
Even though he's not technically white, can we call him "Graham Cracker?"
Nice, Dio. You may have it on the nose.
this guy's gonna be a pimp
literally, after bombing out of the nfl three years from now
this farging team does nothing but stomp on my balls
Is his jersey available yet? I'm gonna order three.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 09:05:03 PM
everyone loves thomas except the eagles
why the farg would the eagles take a 3-4 linebacker type
this guy is a worse edge rusher than even morgan
To move him to SAM like the last 3-4 guy?
I like the pick....goddammit I just wish it was Thomas. farging idiots
lololol...this guy cannot play sam...hes like 265 and stiff as shtein at that position
http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=322270
Whats sadder?
This fargin guy laughing at the Eagles?
Or the fact that he says "I had a second round grade on him" like he's some scout.
The fact that he's right.
In other news, Son of Diomedes busted out crawling for the first time tonight, right at the tenth pick. Who was that? Anthony Davis?? I was distracted, obviously.
Just put the remote somewhere out of reach and off he goes to get it.
With more tenacity than Graham will ever show after he gets paid.
lol Giants are taking Pierre-Paul
thank you for passing on Weatherspoon
hes a mid first round grade but you dont farging trade up to get him
you probably can have kindle for free at 24 who id take way over graham
and now giants get prince paul.....dagger
yeah, now's not the time to be loling at anybody
farging useless. Thomas is sitting right there and they just pass on him. I hate this team so much sometimes.
He'll be the last one to sign, with Rosenhaus all over his weenie.
But seriously, what are the odds JPP is a better pro than Graham? farg, I need some alcohol.
bullshtein...I'm glad they took him.
And I don't hate Graham,
Time to predict the next pick. I say they go RB.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 22, 2010, 09:15:49 PM
Time to predict the next pick. I say they go RB.
They will trade pick #37 to start gobbling up more high energy guys in the later rounds.
One thing I will say is that the Eagles might have been on to something. They touched off a fire storm on pass rushers. They may have had mid-first grades on all the of these DEs, but had identified their favorite, and went up to get him. I can't hate on that . I still would have rather had Thomas, but the draft ain't over. I'm starting to warm up on the Graham pick.
Anyone else's NFLN feed really choppy?
farging comcast....
The worst part is, at least in early rounds it seems the fans do know better than the team, which is simply astounding.
The fans were excited about Jackson. They were excited about Bunkley, McCoy, Maclin etc. The WTF picks, Gocong, Matt McCoy, Laws, Bryan Smith etc have basically ALL been bad. Whenever they reach and try to outsmart people, it has blown up in their faces.
Now, I'm not saying Graham is that degree of a reach but they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
My argument is that it wasn't a reach. They felt there was going to be a run on DEs. There was. They went up and got the one they wanted.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
Anyone else's NFLN feed really choppy?
farging comcast....
Crystal clear on DTV, bitch.
Well, it looks like the Eagles did start a run on DE's, so if they really thought Graham was the best of the bunch, it looks like the trade-up was necessary.
i dont think hes a player period
but in terms of where people had him ranked they didnt take him in a bad spot...but they gave two 3's in a great draft for him when there were at least a half dozen better choices available
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 22, 2010, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
Anyone else's NFLN feed really choppy?
farging comcast....
Crystal clear on DTV, bitch.
Well, it looks like the Eagles did start a run on DE's, so if they really thought Graham was the best of the bunch, it looks like the trade-up was necessary.
I can't wait to get the DTV back in June.
I bet SF goes Kyle Wilson
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
Anyone else's NFLN feed really choppy?
farging comcast....
You can watch that shtein on nfl.com too.
There is a lot of mixed reviews. Some say when you put the tape on, Graham was the best of bunch. The measurables aren't as good as the other guys. I'm taking a wait and see approach. If nothing else, I think the finally got a DE that has the weight and technique to play the run for once.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 22, 2010, 09:26:08 PM
I think the finally got a DE that has the weight and technique to play the run for once.
that was abiamiri...and they dont need a guy to play the run...they need an edge rusher to get to the qb...and in that respect this couldnt be a worse pick if they tried
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:24:04 PMI bet SF goes Kyle Wilson
Iupati, so they used both 1sts on OL
Pouncey to the Steelers
pittsburgh getting a excellent player and exactly what they wanted and needed
i can barely even watch this crap anymore
they traded 5 you cant honestly expect them to do another thing right
Eagles first round shtein is always infuriating.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 22, 2010, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:24:04 PMI bet SF goes Kyle Wilson
Iupati, so they used both 1sts on OL
Yeah I wrote the wrong name...I had 'em getting Iupati in the mock contest.
Broncos just traded up
can believe buluga is still on the board
They showed Brandon Graham ripping Buluga a new one on film - not sure if I was watching NFLN or ESPN at the time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
can believe buluga is still on the board
If he keeps slipping he'll be a Dallas Cowboy.
I have afeeling he'll be going to GB here now. Their OL is atrocious. But they need a CB too
These last two drafts have shown me that no one really ever knows what is going to happen.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2010, 09:48:38 PM
If he keeps slipping he'll be a Dallas Cowboy.
If he's still there, Jerrah Jones wants to make poop babies with Dez Bryant.
unreal the ravens are going to get bryant
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 09:50:24 PM
unreal the ravens are going to get bryant
If that's the case, be glad it's not Dallas. Remember, the Eagles won't have Earl Thomas in the secondary.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 22, 2010, 09:49:05 PM
These last two drafts have shown me that no one really ever knows what is going to happen.
just the last 2?
My boy wants Dallas to take anyone but Dez...he hates him.
i dont really care who gets them...im defeated so much i dont even care
i just cant believe by far the most talented wr fell to a team that really wanted and needed him...and they get him at 25
Quote from: reese125 on April 22, 2010, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 22, 2010, 09:49:05 PM
These last two drafts have shown me that no one really ever knows what is going to happen.
just the last 2?
More so than any others it is just crazy how some of these guys come out of no where
IGY, Why are you defeated?
dallas getting bryant...farging lovely.
The Cowboys just traded up for Dez Bryant. The Eagles will counter with Ellis Hobbs.
now im deflated too.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 09:59:13 PM
dallas getting bryant...farging lovely.
unbelievable
Damn that I don't like to see. Hopefully Graham gets to Romo before he can get the ball to this guy. :D
Steve Young just called Miles Austin "Austin Miles" after this pick. I am going to sleep. HATE
One last note... the Cowboys got another 1st round pick in the Eagles original slot. Dez Bryant picked at #24. GOOD NIGHT FOLKS
hahaha...my girl is a denver fan and hates god more than i do...i can hear her upstairs yelling like crazy right now
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:06:45 PM
hahaha...my girl is a denver fan and hates god more than i do...i can hear her upstairs yelling like crazy right now
I feel bad for her.
Timmy to Denver.
i dont understand this pick. i also dont care. farg.
Brady Quinn huh
wow, and Claussen and McCoy were still on the board..LOL
wow, wtf is denver thinking? not only drafting tebow in the first, but trading up in the first round to do it? makes me feel better about howiebannereid
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 22, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
Brady Quinn huh
Now they have both the 2007 and the 2010 version.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 22, 2010, 10:11:03 PM
wow, wtf is denver thinking? not only drafting tebow in the first, but trading up in the first round to do it? makes me feel better about howiebannereid
Seriously, thinking that the Eagles could have taken Bulaga or Tebow makes me like the Graham pick. Hey, the guy is beefy and black with a nice full beard. How bad can he be? E-A-G-L-E-S! farg you all!
Go Flyers.
tebow is such a fraud. i didn't see a single bible in his living room. SINNER!
He sounds dumber than a brick. Awesome that they spent more time interviewing him than anyone else.
Mays, Dan Williams, Kyle Wilson and Clausen are still on the board
Jon Gruden wants to sex Tebow.
Get mays in the 2nd
that scene at tebows crib was unbelievable...like an ad in a magazine or a commerical...spotless...tons of pretty young white people in pastel colored shirts...a painted portrait of young tim as child on the wall...pristine indoor plants......amazing
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
that scene at tebows crib was unbelievable...like an ad in a magazine or a commerical...spotless...tons of pretty young white people in pastel colored shirts...a painted portrait of young tim as child on the wall...pristine indoor plants......amazing
:-D
Guys that people liked that were gone at 24:
Eric Berry
Mike Iupati
Derrick Morgan
Jason Pierre-Paul
Maurkice Pouncey
Earl Thomas
Sean Weatherspoon
Trent Williams
Most of them were there at 13 though, obviously.
Pre-draft, people also admitted to liking:
Jonathan Dwyer
Sergio Kindle
Taylor Mays
Kyle Wilson
Drunkmasterflex was the only one who expressed interest in Graham.
yeah, they totally should have ghetto'd up their digs for the draft.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 22, 2010, 10:19:27 PM
Drunkmasterflex was the only one who expressed interest in Graham.
Ban?
Williams was a sick pick for the Cards at 26. That dude is going to clog the run in Arizona for years. He's immovable, and just unexplainably tumbled.
There's a lot of good players left....
I wonder if we'll see Shakedown trade back up
No way Wilson is there at 37, but I love that kid. I'd take Nate Allen there if Wilson is gone.
Pats get Die-Hard McCourty.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:22:58 PM
No way Wilson is there at 37, but I love that kid. I'd take Nate Allen there if Wilson is gone.
yeah kindle and wilson are the two best players available imo
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 22, 2010, 10:20:53 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 22, 2010, 10:19:27 PM
Drunkmasterflex was the only one who expressed interest in Graham.
Ban?
:-D
I have seen him play a lot. Not to mention I have a fondness for guys that play well in the Senior Bowl. Two guys that I loved in the Senior Bowl that the Eagles ended up getting were Dawk and Charlie Garner.
Not to get too nostalgic but I will never forget that Dawk straight up leveled Bobby Engram twice on punt coverage. After that I was hooked.
Crazy to trade back in to get Wilson? Probably.
I didn't want the first trade (for anyone). I'll be furious if they do it again. Take the four picks in 2-4.
Stay put.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 22, 2010, 10:29:07 PM
I didn't want the first trade (for anyone). I'll be furious if they do it again. Take the four picks in 2-4.
its definitely doable to give their first 4th to move up to 28 right now...if he falls farther then maybe just the second 4th...either way you wouldnt lose any friday picks
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
I hope so.
That would be sweet.
I have Allen at 37 in my Eagles mock, which would pretty much make me the winner
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
dexter mcluster
Wilson's a fargin Jet.
FML
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
dexter mcluster
I am a big fan of his, that would make me very happy.
Would anyone be happy with Mays in the 2nd?
No, but maybe the 3rd...oops.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 22, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
dexter mcluster
I am a big fan of his, that would make me very happy.
yeah hes absolutely sick and would fit right in with the young talent on this offense..and most importantly he wouldnt have to be at the forefront of everything...just kinda come in and do your thing...and i know hes small as farg but hed be scary in the wildcat
That is why I would like him, it would literally be a perfect situation for him. He could come in and get 8-12 touches a game. Jahvid Best will probably be picked here by Detroit.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 22, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 22, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Whats the pick at 37? I still say Nate Allen.
dexter mcluster
I am a big fan of his, that would make me very happy.
yeah hes absolutely sick and would fit right in with the young talent on this offense..and most importantly he wouldnt have to be at the forefront of everything...just kinda come in and do your thing...and i know hes small as farg but hed be scary in the wildcat
I'm all for it...but perhaps they can get him later than 37. I want defense first
Definitely want D first. Safety or LB and if anything, OL before anything else on the offense.
Hard to say with a guy like him, he could fall there or he could go early. There are still some really good players to be had, that is why I am kind of disappointed they don't have 2-3s tomorrow.
id love daryl washington in the second...id love kindle if he lasts but i dont think theres anyway they take him...love ricky sapp too...this is why the graham pick was so bad...get thomas there and you have these lb rush types in the second round still there...the safety drop off after thomas was much more severe
im not that enamored with allen
holy shtein what did gruden just say dumb ass about
i just rewound it and gruden thinks he talking to just mel and says "its a crazy league a lot of dumb ass picks"
I'm on the Daryl Washington bandwagon. Put him at SAM. That being said, if Kindle is there at 37, you take him and he's your SAM. He's an Orakpo clone, some say he'll be better in the long term.
With the threes gone, it's defense defense defense tomorrow. They've got what they need to win on the offense. The defense, at this point, is what will lose them games next year.
you also gotta think OL is a huge possibility i just dont see much there
cant imagine the team would take a chance on bruce cambell...they arent big on taking guys with upside
Ducasse(supposedly really moving up), Brown, and Saffold are still there. I like Allen or McCluster personally. Wouldn't mind seeing a DT either.
Campbell is a definite possibility. Reid loves to take average/developing tackles and kick them into guard, usually with good results. I still just don't see it. I think they are feeling okay with the o-line, and adding depth. I think they will take the best guys on the D tomorrow in the second, and jump into the third if they see a guy falling that they are sweet on.
Still available:
Clausen
McCoy
Mays
Carlos Dunlap
Brandon Spikes
Jonathan Dwyer
Bruce Campbell
Everson Griffen
Brian Price
Navorro Bowman
Nate Allen
Chad Jones
No way on Campbell. No!
Yes yes yes on Kindle or Washington
Yes yes on Allen
Yes on McCluster, but at 55
Chris Cook might be an option, they could use some more size in the defensive backfield now that the Cowboys have a bunch of big WRs.
i like morgan burnett significantly better than allen
i wonder how far dunlop is going to drop
theres so much talent still out there on defense this is why they never should have traded those two three for graham
Sean Lee would still be there mid to late 2nd.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
i like morgan burnett significantly better than allen
i wonder how far dunlop is going to drop
theres so much talent still out there on defense this is why they never should have traded those two three for graham
The thing I like about Allen is outside of Berry he is probably the most well rounded. Burnett has good size but isn't very physical....that being said he is a pretty good ballhawk type.
Dunlap farged himself with that stunt before the SEC championship he could fall very very far.
I am with you on the Graham thing as far as giving up those picks. I really like Graham a whole lot though.
Also if you notice after they moved up JPP and Morgan quickly went off the board. That is probably why they did jump wanting to get one of the top guys.
over/under on seconds until everyone is howie suckling if they get taylor mays tomorrow
Jamie Dukes on NFLN seems to be ripping into the Broncos right now.
Quote from: KDS on April 22, 2010, 11:58:10 PM
over/under on seconds until everyone is howie suckling if they get taylor mays tomorrow
Not sold on Taylor Mays, but I wouldn't be too disappointed.
who gave the eagles pick to godell? werent they bringing former players and notable people to do it?
Quote from: KDS on April 23, 2010, 12:10:25 AM
who gave the eagles pick to godell? werent they bringing former players and notable people to do it?
Group effort, Mamula, Harris, McDougle and Andrews.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 12:02:20 AM
Quote from: KDS on April 22, 2010, 11:58:10 PM
over/under on seconds until everyone is howie suckling if they get taylor mays tomorrow
Not sold on Taylor Mays, but I wouldn't be too disappointed.
I'd love Mays, don't see how they could pass on him if he's still there today, but they probably go cover corner or d-back.
The more I think about Mays the more I hope he's there and the Eagles pick him. This guy could be the closest thing to Dawk as we will ever see for a while. He can line up at ss or lb. I think he'd be a versitile player who could play multiple positions. Theres no doubt he has the speed to cover te's or wr's.
no farging way i mays with the donovan pick
and im not sure id even want him with the 2 2
i'm not sold mays. i want allen. i have to agree with igy in that you didnt need to give up 2 three's to go get graham.
The board is very meh at this point. I see the Eagles trading out of 37.
agree and disagree
id be in with trading down but id do it because the board is loaded with players
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:47:42 AM
The board is very meh at this point. I see the Eagles trading out of 37.
wasn't everyone on here clamoring all month about how deep this draft is and now its "meh"?
You all change your minds more than a room full of women.
I'm not changing my mind: Graham was a reach, he will be stifled by NFL offensive linemen, he'll be injury plagued. Reid Roseman threw away two very valuable picks for nothing.
Do I need to go back to the draft threads and bring up the rest of the funny stuff y'all said about stuff like this?
If it squirts your pickle, go ahead. I could use a laugh.
Won't change my opinion that this was a terrible decision.
Could you go back to a week or two ago and quote when I said the Eagles would do something stupid in the draft? I completely agree with Dio that the Eagles did not get a player that is worth the lost draft picks.
I didn't mean to say that there aren't good players on the board... Just that there aren't any I'd really like to see the Eagles take at 37. So they might as well get a few more picks.
Let me throw this question out there: Would you rather have the #55 (own 2nd round pick) or both 3rds?
When I first learned of the trade I was happy they didn't have to part with either of their 2nds. When I heard two thirds I was hoping one was for next years draft since they'll probably have 2 then too. It's early and my mind is elsewhere but I'm having trouble thinking of a 3rd pick the Eagles have taken that has amounted to shtein (Westbrook/Bradley/Burgess are exceptions).
I'd love to see them trade Vick today for to get one of those 3rd rounders back...
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 10:06:01 AM
I'd love to see them trade Vick today for to get one of those 3rd rounders back...
That would be great, but I think Andy loves his "versatility" too much for that. If only one of Vick's versatile assets was the ability to play QB
If any team at any point would have offered a 3rd for Vick he'd be gone by now. Despite what he thinks of himself and the Eagles thought when they got him he's worth no more than a 6th.
So trade him and a 6th for a 3rd then. Draft Skelton or sign Garcia and call it a day. farg Vick - It's not cute anymore; Im done with this shtein
Yeah, well, I like to stretch myself on occasion
Caplan and SalPal are saying there's rumblings of the Eagles taking Mcluster. Wouldn't have a problem with the pick if thre weren't other glaring needs. Not to mention if those two are saying it there's probably zero validity considering they weren't even close with the Graham pick.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 09:11:17 AM
Just that there aren't any I'd really like to see the Eagles take at 37. So they might as well get a few more picks.
If they take Taylor Mays at 37 I will be happy.
I won't, I'd rather have Nate Allen
If Sergio Kindle drops at all he'd be a nice fit at SAM. He played DE last season but before Orakpo left he was the full time SAM. He's 6'3 250, can blitz, and has the speed to cover NFC East TE's. He was originally projected as a mid to late first round pick. And before the comparison is made he's not asian or an engineering major.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:47:42 AM
I see the Eagles trading out of 37.
I see it happening if they get a decent deal from Buffalo (maybe their 4th?) trying to move up from #41 to jump ahead of Cleveland at #38 and Oakland at #39. Minnesota
might take one of the QBs at #34 to replace Favre, but the Rams, Bucs and Chiefs won't take the other one, so the Eagles could be sitting in a nice spot assuming Buffalo isn't trying to deal with those three teams directly. Carolina at #48 needs a QB too but it might be too far to drop....
But where would that leave the Alex Hall/Moise Fokou camp competition?!?
Special Teams where they belong
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 23, 2010, 10:34:50 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:47:42 AM
I see the Eagles trading out of 37.
I see it happening if they get a decent deal from Buffalo (maybe their 4th?) trying to move up from #41 to jump ahead of Cleveland at #38 and Oakland at #39. Minnesota might take one of the QBs at #34 to replace Favre, but the Rams, Bucs and Chiefs won't take the other one, so the Eagles could be sitting in a nice spot assuming Buffalo isn't trying to deal with those three teams directly. Carolina at #48 needs a QB too but it might be too far to drop....
Teams tend to give up more when a QB they like drops, especially one like Clausen. If they can move back but re-coup a 3rd I'd be less pissed at the Graham trade.
On a different draft angle: anyone else wish they wouldn't spoil the pick announcement by showing the player and his crew before Roger says the pick? Takes all the fun out of the surprise.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 10:46:24 AM
On a different draft angle: anyone else wish they wouldn't spoil the pick announcement by showing the player and his crew before Roger says the pick? Takes all the fun out of the surprise.
Yes...it wasn't so bad in years past when they did it every once in a while, but now it seems they know who every team is going to pick (except the Eagles).
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 10:46:24 AM
On a different draft angle: anyone else wish they wouldn't spoil the pick announcement by showing the player and his crew before Roger says the pick? Takes all the fun out of the surprise.
Absolutely. NFLN and ESPN are farging awful and shtein like that just makes it all worse.
The whole thing is awful from top to bottom. The least they could do is shut the hell up for the picks.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
The whole thing is awful from top to bottom. The least they could do is shut the hell up for the picks.
Love that last word always having to be sneaked in there before Goodell made the pick.
They continued to show the players' names in the graphic they had on the screen several seconds before Goodell made the announcements. farging awful. And hilarious. But mostly awful.
Its starting to remind me of E3. Tons of money and time being spent on pageantry for pageantry's sake. I think I had my fill of it when Deion had a segment with a sponsor.
Quote
Medical issues pushed Kindle out of first round
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 23, 2010 11:08 AM ET
Texas linebacker Sergio Kindle surprisingly didn't get selected in the first round Thursday.
Now we know why.
Several teams had Kindle off their board due to medical issues, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. Chip Brown of Rivals.com writes that Kindle's knee was a "serious" medical risk that could require microfracture surgery.
Kindle also takes medication for narcolepsy and ADD, although we doubt those are major issues. Kindle is known for his football intelligence, but his durability risks was too great for teams to take in the first round.
At some point in the second round, we think the risk of his injuries will be worth the reward of his considerable talents.
Yikes. Daryl Washington please. Sapp and Thaddeus Gibson (in the third or fourth would be nice).
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Its starting to remind me of E3. Tons of money and time being spent on pageantry for pageantry's sake. I think I had my fill of it when Deion had a segment with a sponsor.
The draft is really the most anticlimactic event on television... not to mention that it gets more boring with each pick.
I've had the ideas for years that they should record the draft in private, and then play it backwards all the way up to the 1st pick... that would at least add tension to each pick and give it a good ending.
Or they could not televise it at all. I mean, farg. I can see the picks come up online, and read ten thousand reviews of each player, then go to youtube to see highlights of them. What the farg do I need Rich Eisen or Chris Berman for?
Catchy nicknames?
You win this time.
By far the most interesting part of day 1 was watching Mel Kiper's love for Jimmy Clausen and hate for Tim Tebow manifest themselves in multiple places. Also, I thought Gruden might punch him to defend Tebow's honor.
That would have been entertaining, at least.
If you're drunk the draft is much more enjoyable to watch. Just sayin'...
So's a bonfire. We should combine the two.
Throw Gruden et al in the bonfire FTW
That works, too. And I'll still have a working TV at the end of it.
I watched NFLN. Its much better. Although Rich Eisen's manlove for Tebow was sickening.
I can only take so much of Deion.
I flipped for about ten minutes, then turned around and stopped paying attention. Left it on, but god damn did they drone.
espn tonight should be great...mcshay and kiper together commenting on the picks
Didn't Kiper say something about "if Clausen doesn't go in the first 15 picks, I'll stop using hair gel?"
Mel Kiper is the most useless human being on earth. There. I said it.
I can't stand Kiper, I give him credit for branding his draft schtick before it was popular but he needs a fork in the eye.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 05:17:23 PM
I watched NFLN. Its much better. Although Rich Eisen's manlove for Tebow was sickening.
no way it compared to the oral show by gruden
Gruden is completely shameless, and probably a barely functioning alcoholic.
It wouldn't be the draft without Kiper.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Didn't Kiper say something about "if Clausen doesn't go in the first 15 picks, I'll stop using hair gel?"
i didnt see it but he would blow charlie weis if it meant getting to clausen so i wouldnt be surprised
i met kiper at the espn zone in baltimore...dood was amazing...sat down and had beers with us...he is a farging robot and talks in person exactly like he does on tv...just rolling off sports info for three minutes at a time with nary a breath...and he knows a lot about everything...hes not just nfl draft
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
It wouldn't be the draft without Kiper.
Agreed. The older he gets, the less relevant his actual evaluations are... but who cares?
the ESPN crew rates as follows:
token black guy (forget his name)
Steve Young
Gruden
in a league of his own
Boomer
in a different league of his own
Kiper
I'd rather they had just the black guy, Boomer, and Kiper. No need for the other two jackasses
Tom Jackson?
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
the ESPN crew rates as follows:
token black guy (forget his name)
Boomer
Steve Young
Gruden
in a league of his own
Kiper
I'd rather they had just the black guy, Boomer, and Kiper. No need for the other two jackasses
Yeah but now with the draft over 3-4 nights with 24/7 coverage you need more and more jackasses to tell us how wrong teams are and how they met with so and so in the off season and believe will succeed/fail.
i love tj
but he was so out of his element in last nights setting it was uncomfortable
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Didn't Kiper say something about "if Clausen doesn't go in the first 15 picks, I'll stop using hair gel?"
i didnt see it but he would blow charlie weis if it meant getting to clausen so i wouldnt be surprised
i met kiper at the espn zone in baltimore...dood was amazing...sat down and had beers with us...he is a farging robot and talks in person exactly like he does on tv...just rolling off sports info for three minutes at a time with nary a breath...and he knows a lot about everything...hes not just nfl draft
Kiper>>>>>David Simon
?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Didn't Kiper say something about "if Clausen doesn't go in the first 15 picks, I'll stop using hair gel?"
i didnt see it but he would blow charlie weis if it meant getting to clausen so i wouldnt be surprised
i met kiper at the espn zone in baltimore...dood was amazing...sat down and had beers with us...he is a farging robot and talks in person exactly like he does on tv...just rolling off sports info for three minutes at a time with nary a breath...and he knows a lot about everything...hes not just nfl draft
That is farging awesome, I just wish they would get rid of McShay. The whole him and Mel arguing shtick is gay.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Didn't Kiper say something about "if Clausen doesn't go in the first 15 picks, I'll stop using hair gel?"
i didnt see it but he would blow charlie weis if it meant getting to clausen so i wouldnt be surprised
i met kiper at the espn zone in baltimore...dood was amazing...sat down and had beers with us...he is a farging robot and talks in person exactly like he does on tv...just rolling off sports info for three minutes at a time with nary a breath...and he knows a lot about everything...hes not just nfl draft
Kiper is a pimp.
btw has anyone been catching the sal pal report from novacare tonight
calling 37 the donovan pick and acting like its the biggest pick in franchise history and almost like he feels sorry for the guy that gets chosen there because he will always be the guy traded for donovan...the hyperbole is insane
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 23, 2010, 05:25:48 PMYeah but now with the draft over 3-4 nights with 24/7 coverage you need more and more jackasses to tell us how wrong teams are and how they met with so and so in the off season and believe will succeed/fail.
Isn't that why they cut away to Erin, Ed and the gang of thousands? They don't need five on site.
Already on my 3rd Bloody Mary... * burp *
The doctor put me on amoxosomething or other. No alcohol for me. I need to get better so I can work.
if it's amoxicillin i'm pretty sure you can drink a few. it's just an antibiotic that treats bacterial infections.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5164423_effects-amoxicillin-alcohol-consumption.html
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 05:28:16 PM
btw has anyone been catching the sal pal report from novacare tonight
calling 37 the donovan pick and acting like its the biggest pick in franchise history and almost like he feels sorry for the guy that gets chosen there because he will always be the guy traded for donovan...the hyperbole is insane
A friend and I (skins fan) were talking about that this afternoon, that may be one of the dumbest things ever. I feel bad for whoever it is they draft because he is going to here that question for at least the first couple years of his career. Whoever it is...is going to have a tough time dealing with those expectations.
Well, now I hope they down there.
FWIW Sal Pal is reporting Reid is "smitten" with McCluster. I would love for him to be one of their picks tonight.
i would pee on my couch if they got him
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
FWIW Sal Pal is reporting Reid is "smitten" with McCluster. I would love for him to be one of their picks tonight.
No way he's the pick at 37 and that is certainly a smokescreen, a poor one at that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 05:17:23 PM
I watched NFLN. Its much better. Although Rich Eisen's manlove for Tebow was sickening.
One thing about NFLN, and relevant to the earlier point about giving away the picks, is that they said the Eagles pick would be Graham
at least a full two minutes before Goodell announced it. I saw that some people on :CF (probably watching ESPN) were still posting about Thomas quite a bit after NFLN had already given away the actual pick.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
FWIW Sal Pal is reporting Reid is "smitten" with McCluster. I would love for him to be one of their picks tonight.
No way he's the pick at 37 and that is certainly a smokescreen, a poor one at that.
Lol, smiiten gave it away as bullshtein.
barring a trade how does this look for the first the first five picks
rams - arrelious benn
vikings - one of the qb
bucs - everson griffin
chiefs - charles brown or bruce campbell
eagles - then they have kindle - washington - mcluster to choose from
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 05:59:30 PM
barring a trade how does this look for the first the first five picks
rams - arrelious benn
vikings - one of the qb
bucs - everson griffin
chiefs - charles brown or bruce campbell
eagles - then they have kindle - washington - mcluster to choose from
Kindle supposedly needs microfracture surgery.
yeah i heard...im not buying it until there is confirmation
this is so awesome...my stomach is rockin and rollin like a beef n beer in munsons hall
stl can go anywhere here..which means theyll take kindle or allen.
stl takes saffold. awesome - i wanted no part of him.
to high for him...i would have taken brown
i dont want any ol now. gotta be all d the 2nd rd.
edit: but i wouldnt be mad at all w dexmac at 55.
i agree but i have a gut feeling they go OL here
assamoah maybe?
Vikings took Chris Cook from VA.
thats a nice pick
another guy i didnt want..but he majorly passes the look test.
No chance he makes it as a CB. As a free safety, though... hmmm...
tonight is so much better than last night
until the eagles select
Kirwan and Ryan called that a few hours ago. I would have no problem with OL, it is not like theirs was dominant last year. I really would like to see Allen, McCluster, Burnett, and wouldn't have a problem with Kindle either.
im getting this feeling that they're gonna trade down w the browns or bills
c'mon allen
that was not tim tebows house
Saw lots of UCLA games, Price is for real.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 06:21:20 PM
im getting this feeling that they're gonna trade down w the browns or bills
of course.
hah i was thinking about what you said last night about tebows spot when they showed prices
clausen to kc??? wow, farg you cassel.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 06:22:29 PM
that was not tim tebows house
I am pretty sure I would rather be at that house than Tebow's. The Tebow's probably celebrated by reading bible verses and playing Parcheesi.
here comes Everson Griffen
SUPER FASTBALLS!
gotta be nate allen..or kindle
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 06:25:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 06:22:29 PM
that was not tim tebows house
I am pretty sure I would rather be at that house than Tebow's. The Tebow's probably celebrated by reading bible verses and playing Parcheesi.
whoa there, parcheesi doesn't celebrate the lord. they played christian cherades. "i'm bombing an abortion clinic silly!"
McCluster is going to the Chiefs. Farg
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 06:26:43 PM
McCluster is going to the Chiefs. Farg
McCluster would have made the draft.
farg me
farging idiots on ESPN are still talking about Clausen maybe going to KC when NFLN has already shown McCluster
farg!
mccluster went to k.c.?
Wouldn't mind Terrence Cody, they could use a run stuffing fat ass.
Gimmie some Kindle, or Allen. We'll end up with Sean Lee
Ah well. All defense now. Kindle, then Mays at 55 would make me happy in the pants.
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 06:28:37 PM
farging idiots on ESPN are still talking about Clausen maybe going to KC when NFLN has already shown McCluster
This ESPN love fest is sickening. They are so far off base on everything. Love the "ready to blow a gasket" look on Steve Young's face.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 06:29:12 PM
Wouldn't mind Terrence Cody, they could use a run stuffing fat ass.
i think hes to fat...hes a 3-4 tackle
Birds on the clock. Here comes the pick from left field.
Thank god they cut to commercial. Can't take 5 minutes of in depth "discussion" by these bozos.
no pick yet, here comes them trading back
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 06:25:32 PM
here comes Everson Griffen
SUPER FASTBALLS!
i laughed.
omg...the Donovan Pick...it means so much more than a regular pick!
mayock pimping washington
Will they boo it?
La canfora is saying allen
So anyway, back to Tebow's house..................................................................
Nate Allen
Tayor Mays?
theres so much good stuff on the board still....kinda hard to farg this up
Nice fargin' pick.
Word!
Oh my god! They got it right!
Nate Allen it is
know nothing about him
farging cvnt Eisen going the boo route, it's farging giants fans booing
'Kay, turning off the draft again. Rich Eisen made the McNabb booing comparison.
Kiper shut the farg up!
oh my here comes sal donovan pick palontonio
they REALLY wanted mccluster!
oh noes!
so would they have taken him at 37??
lol @ clausen
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
so would they have taken him at 37??
They were hoping he would fall into their second pick of rd 2. Shocked he went this high.
Claussen is an icehole, couldnt happen to a better person
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 06:42:02 PM
Claussen is an icehole, couldnt happen to a better person
I should have had you sit with Nicholas behind the ND bench at the Hawaii Bowl last year. You guys could have just heckled the shtein out of him.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 23, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
so would they have taken him at 37??
They were hoping he would fall into their second pick of rd 2. Shocked he went this high.
oh ok, thanks.
i'm starting to feel bad for the qbs, first they had to sit down for that douchefest with Gruden and now this.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 23, 2010, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 06:42:02 PM
Claussen is an icehole, couldnt happen to a better person
I should have had you sit with Nicholas behind the ND bench at the Hawaii Bowl last year. You guys could have just heckled the shtein out of him.
I was too busy buying drinks, hurling insults from the line
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 23, 2010, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
so would they have taken him at 37??
They were hoping he would fall into their second pick of rd 2. Shocked he went this high.
oh ok, thanks.
How big is McCluster? Dam he looks tiny.
Dolphins will get Kindle
or not. They went Koa Misi, Utah State.
Hey Eisen, they're booing Marino.
There's gotta be some fire to go with the smoke regarding Kindle's knee.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 23, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Hey Eisen, they're booing Marino.
Eisen explained why for Marino, though. Apparently he can't figure out that maybe the Dolphins and Eagles would be booed for similar reasons.
Misi, oh well there goes our token Later Day Saint.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
There's gotta be some fire to with the smoke regarding Kindle's knee.
yeah, there has to be something going on there, i hope to farg he's still around later this round.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 23, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Hey Eisen, they're booing Marino.
Eisen explained why for Marino, though. Apparently he can't figure out that maybe the Dolphins and Eagles would be booed for similar reasons.
he knew exactly what was up but he wrote that donovan line down on monday and was going with it even if there was one boo in the place
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
There's gotta be some fire to with the smoke regarding Kindle's knee.
yeah, there has to be something going on there, i hope to farg he's still around later this round.
if hes not hurt they should have taken him at 37...if hes hurt you dont take him at all...or not until 6 or 7
LOL BILLS
haha the bills still don't take clausen
Troup? This round is breaking out really farging weird.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 06:51:07 PM
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Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
There's gotta be some fire to with the smoke regarding Kindle's knee.
yeah, there has to be something going on there, i hope to farg he's still around later this round.
if hes not hurt they should have taken him at 37...if hes hurt you dont take him at all...or not until 6 or 7
I never read, whats your opinion on Navarro? I love the guy, and if they traded back a few spots to get him i'd be fine with it, if they get a 3rd rounder out of the deal.
The Tebow selection is looking worse with every pick :-D
what's the iggs next pick?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
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Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
There's gotta be some fire to with the smoke regarding Kindle's knee.
yeah, there has to be something going on there, i hope to farg he's still around later this round.
if hes not hurt they should have taken him at 37...if hes hurt you dont take him at all...or not until 6 or 7
I never read, whats your opinion on Navarro? I love the guy, and if they traded back a few spots to get him i'd be fine with it, if they get a 3rd rounder out of the deal.
i dont really have a strong feeling either way...he seems like a completely vanilla player to me...one of those guys that was made to play in college but wont have a huge impact in the pros...i def wouldnt want him with 55
Raiders nearly lost their pick, trying to trade it away. Baltimore could pick now, if they want to
Also, it would seem that pretty much every NFL team is fairly sure Mays won't ever make it as a safety in the league, and he'll be a OLB project.
If Kindle is hurt, I want Thaddeus Gibson over Navarro.
Confusion on the floor right now. I wonder if Oakland farged up their pick.
Is Gronkowski drunk or on pills?
Gronkowski seems like an intellectual type.
oh snap Ray Ray snubs goddell for the handshake
Gronkowski might now be the biggest douche in the NFL.
RayRay coudlnt say Baltimore Ravens right..LOL. Kindle is gonna be a beast there
yeah someone explain to me how you take nat allen over kindle
oh yeah "character guy"
if i hear that one more time after an eagles pick im gonna puke
i thought there were headed in the right direction after the last couple years but they seem to be back on it...which is ironic a year after signing vick
Linval Joseph? Who the hell is that?
the gronkowski family makes a pretty good argument for eugenics
i don't give a farg i still want taylor mays at 55 if he's still there.
You are assuming Kindle can play 4-3 SAM. I wouldn't have had an issue with him, but that is a tough transition.
they got their de and db
if you think they go offense next (and not OL) what about aaron hernandez as another weapon...def long shot...but hed look real good in this offense as an h back chris cooley type
Thaddeus Gibson at 55 please.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
You are assuming Kindle can play 4-3 SAM. I wouldn't have had an issue with him, but that is a tough transition.
when you have talent like that i dont give a farg what kind of defense you have...you make room for people like that and ill find a place for them somewhere in my front seven
or donald butler
god i really like washington too...easily would have taken him over allen
no chance panthers don't take a qb right?
douchey qb to a douchey city. good fit.
its gonna be asamoah
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 23, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
or donald butler
love him...i think he ran the fastest 40 of any inside backer in the draft
what a great get by carolina...to have no first rounder and in desperate need of that position
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
douchey qb to a douchey city. good fit.
Eisen kinda slagging the pick. Didn't see that coming!
niners take mays
Next Ronnie Lott
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
Mays = Ronnie Lott!
Did anyone take McCoy yet?
It would be hilariously awesome if rosey and reid took him here.
Ha - beat me to it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
I like being angry.
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
after the eagles pick he will
i could watch highlites of taylor mays all day long
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
after the eagles pick he will
So I should hate it?
Are Eisen and Billick sexting?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
after the eagles pick he will
So I should hate it?
i dont know what you
should do but i know you
will like it
Definately see the Birds trading back. They've gotta be jonesing for a third rounder.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:30:09 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
after the eagles pick he will
So I should hate it?
i dont know what you should do but i know you will like it
lol
Just like you'll hate it. WHatever they do.
Always a better option, right?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:29:07 PM
i could watch highlites of taylor mays all day long
no shtein thats exactly what the eagles needed. farg nate allen.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 07:30:32 PM
Definately see the Birds trading back. They've gotta be jonesing for a third rounder.
i agree...been thinking all day they will not let the third round go by without them picking
I could see the Birds trading their second next year for a third this year if there is someone they want.
nah they take brown
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:31:25 PM
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I was hoping that smarmy punk Clausen would drop into the 3rd or get taken by Oakland.
You're very angry lately.
Smile.
after the eagles pick he will
So I should hate it?
i dont know what you should do but i know you will like it
lol
Just like you'll hate it. WHatever they do.
Always a better option, right?
i definitely hated mack - mccoy - HOF ingram and macho last year
and lets not even talk about pimp the year before
Toby Gerhart going to Minny?!
Crazy
Who needs a quarterback when you can just run it? Gerhart is going to be sick.
Minny traded up for a white RB
someone needs to be getting screen caps of all these kids' women. Gerhart's girl gets my vote for best yet. ymmm
Quote from: mpmcgraw on April 23, 2010, 07:33:16 PM
I could see the Birds trading their second next year for a third this year if there is someone they want.
that rarely if ever happens outside the first round where you trade a higher pick the next year for a lower pick in the current draft..and it would be shocking if the eagles did it
what they would do is trade both 4ths this year for a third...or a 4th this year and a third next year
and here they are, making comparisons to the only other white RB/FB anyone can remember, Alstott
nice upskirt shot of gerhart's bimbo.
and it's funny how the white rb is going to officially the whitest place in the united states (apologies to prince).
we have a winner for worst name. worilds.
I enjoyed the guy the Broncos got. Zane Beadles.
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:40:11 PMand it's funny how the white rb is going to officially the whitest place in the united states (apologies to prince).
boulder colorado is the whitest place in the country, and Colorado generally is hella whiter than minnesota
hence Tebow and the Zanester
Charles Brown is gonna be an Eagle.
GET COLT MCCOY... I literally have no clue what they're gonna do here
Know what blows, when you flip from ESPN to NFLN when there's a commercial but they're both showing commercials.
Is Terrence Cody still available? I wouldn't mind that beast in the middle.
this is monster IF considering the source...but lets play anyway
IF sal pal was right about mccluster...what about joe mcknight here...i guess it just depends on if the were infatuated with dexter or they want more offensive weapons
good lord tho this draft is crazy deep...i mean theres still players everywhere that make you salivate
this is why losing two picks next round hurts so bad
farg i would love if they drafted mccoy.
then trade vick for a 3rd or another 4th.
this team is just retarded enough to pull it off.
but i think it's brown too.
Never been to Boulder. Been to Vail, though. That's whiteness.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
Is Terrence Cody still available? I wouldn't mind that beast in the middle.
someone else mentioned that earlier...i think hes way to fat to play in almost any 4-3 but def the eagles 4-3...hes a classic 3-4 nose
Ok....
so what's gonna happen here?
I hope they trade back.
Carlos Dunlap looks like a chick
love this pick....a pick the eagles would never make and the bengals live for
Asamoah I bet.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:44:08 PM
this is monster IF considering the source...but lets play anyway
IF sal pal was right about mccluster...what about joe mcknight here...i guess it just depends on if the were infatuated with dexter or they want more offensive weapons
good lord tho this draft is crazy deep...i mean theres still players everywhere that make you salivate
this is why losing two picks next round hurts so bad
Wouldn't mind a trade here for more picks.
best hair so far.
Dunlap to the Bengals. I love Marvin Lewis so much, I'm a little embarrassed.
wow another cowboys trade
Eagles trade pick to Cowboys...
traded w dallas??? dont you idiots learn?!?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
Is Terrence Cody still available? I wouldn't mind that beast in the middle.
someone else mentioned that earlier...i think hes way to fat to play in almost any 4-3 but def the eagles 4-3...hes a classic 3-4 nose
6'5 370
That's farging huge
LMAO, they never learn
man, this Eagles FO loves to deal within the division
love it if they get a 3rd
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
Carlos Dunlap looks like a chick
That is one farging scary photo.
Will fit nicely into the Cincy penitentiary.
Christ, they love the divisional trades. Must be part of feeling smarter than everyone else.
trade to the cowboys.
good christ.
Why do I even bother paying attention to this stuff?
Trade was for the 59th pick and 125th
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
Is Terrence Cody still available? I wouldn't mind that beast in the middle.
someone else mentioned that earlier...i think hes way to fat to play in almost any 4-3 but def the eagles 4-3...hes a classic 3-4 nose
6'5 370
That's farging huge
yep...thats his listed weight i believe...ive read reports that say hes been up around 400
Not an awful deal. They only dropped a couple of spots and picked up something.
takes some of the sting out of the Graham deal
So they have 3 4ths now....chances are two of those get put together to move up into the 3rd later..
lol...Rome's head's gonna explode.
I hope they take Bruce Campbell
So now the Eagles have 3 4ths meaning they're trading back up to the 3rd
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 07:47:52 PM
Why do I even bother paying attention to this stuff?
Because
actually putting a ball gag in your mouth and grabbing you ankles is less fun?
3 4ths now? theyre gonna use 2 to get back into the 3rd
Cowboys picked Sean Lee
Ok, ready? Group Kumbia.
Sean Lee!?!?? HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA farging cowboys.
Lee isn't scary.
i hate dallas but that's a great frigging deal to only go down 4 slots.
Does anyone think the Eagles will trade two 4ths to get back into the 3rd?
Sean Lee haha, even better trade for the Eagles
Goofy white LB
IGY's happy
nice trade. they'll still get brown probably.
is anyone else sick of hearing bono's voice?
farg you you attention whore.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 07:50:14 PM
Sean Lee!?!?? HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA farging cowboys.
I agree. Loved him as a college player, but he's not going to give Shady McCoy nightmares. In fact the opposite is likely true.
that's a lot of haha's there.
all they need is one trade with the giants and it's complete.
Blounts girl looks pretty friggen' haggard.
Bal/NE/Philly up, may be another trade back if someone wants Mccoy
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
Blounts girl looks pretty friggen' haggard.
wouldnt you be to if you banged out four kids in the last 36 months
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:51:30 PM
is anyone else sick of hearing bono's voice?
farg you you attention whore.
I can understand hating him and all, but it's a pretty good commercial
World Cup hell yea
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
Blounts girl looks pretty friggen' haggard.
wonder if he punches her too
how the farg do these guys have so many kids?
rosey knows that McCoy is still gonna be there at 59
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
how the farg do all these guys have so many kids?
super sperms?
wow did anyone just hear berman
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
how the farg do these guys have so many kids?
College
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
sell out
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 07:51:30 PM
is anyone else sick of hearing bono's voice?
farg you you attention whore.
I can understand hating him and all, but it's a pretty good commercial
World Cup hell yea
it was a good commercial the first 100 times they played it. not so much now.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PMand i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
I like this gimmick, too.
I love Jim Brown.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
I'm coming around.
I hate the guest pick bullshtein though, just call the pick and move on.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
wow did anyone just hear berman
What did he say?
BAL gonna take Mt. Cody
Solid moves if Kindle's knee doesn't explode and Cody stays under three fiddy
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
wow did anyone just hear berman
His amazement that the Eagles traded with the Cowboys?
I'm thinking Bruce Campbell and a rjs seizure
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
Same here, hated it at first but diggin it now
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PMand i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
I like this gimmick, too.
I love Jim Brown.
I still think it would be more entertaining with guidos instead of old players. Maybe combine the two and have Siragusa do the whole draft?
Baltimore's gotta be happy to get Cody
Cody's off the clock...jeez the Ravens are huge up the middle.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
Baltimore's gotta be happy to get Cody
perfect guy for them
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 07:56:55 PM
I'm thinking Bruce Campbell and a rjs seizure
Yeah, your heart says that, but what does your head say?
ngata & cody = no one's running on baltimore.
ever.
Reids got to have the shakes and sweats by now and must take an OL.
watch him go Bruce Campbell, Stefen Wisniewski, or Matt Tennant
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
wow did anyone just hear berman
His amazement that the Eagles traded with the Cowboys?
Good. Maybe he'll finally get off the bandwagon so we can finally get a Superbowl with this team.
Gotta feeling we're in for a surprise with the Eagles pick again.
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 07:57:10 PMI still think it would be more entertaining with guidos instead of old players. Maybe combine the two and have Siragusa do the whole draft?
Add a swimsuit competition for draftee's womens and I'll sign that petition.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
I'm coming around.
I hate the guest pick bullshtein though, just call the pick and move on.
what's not to like? it takes an extra 20 seconds, and it's something different then goodell who no one gives a shtein about. plus it's gotta be cool for the kids being picked.
players milf contest ftw
Quote5. CAROLINA -- I think Carolina simply has to start managing its draft choices better. That's a story for another day; dealing a 2010 first-rounder to the Niners last year for Everette Brown was a reach. But tonight, when the Panthers' first pick (48th overall) comes up in the middle of the second round, they should hope either Clausen keeps slipping (he won't)
Good call, Peter King.
Clausen also hung up on him last night....lol
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 07:57:10 PMI still think it would be more entertaining with guidos instead of old players. Maybe combine the two and have Siragusa do the whole draft?
Add a swimsuit competition for draftee's womens and I'll sign that petition.
Just a hunch but you ain't gettin it as much since junior was born
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
wow did anyone just hear berman
His amazement that the Eagles traded with the Cowboys?
exactly...like wtf?
the biggest story of the nfl offseason surrounded the trade of a qb that opened up a starting spot for a guy that was aquired from the trade fo a first round pick with the cowboys
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 07:57:10 PMI still think it would be more entertaining with guidos instead of old players. Maybe combine the two and have Siragusa do the whole draft?
Add a swimsuit competition for draftee's womens and I'll sign that petition.
Sure, what the hell.
Right? Tell me Kindle didn't love having Ray Ray call his name?
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:58:59 PM
Gotta feeling we're in for a surprise with the Eagles pick again.
what makes you think that?
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:00:35 PMJust a hunch but you ain't gettin it as much since junior was born
au contraire...she's bounced right back into form...but now I know for real what happens after that and, uh....
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:00:35 PMJust a hunch but you ain't gettin it as much since junior was born
au contraire...she's bounced right back into form...but now I know for real what happens after that and, uh....
So you've added condoms to your errand list?
i love jenn brown a lot.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:59:46 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on April 23, 2010, 07:54:41 PM
i hated the 3-day draft idea at first, but i'm a convert. it's awesome. and i actually like how they're bringing out HOFers to announce some picks.
I'm coming around.
I hate the guest pick bullshtein though, just call the pick and move on.
what's not to like? it takes an extra 20 seconds, and it's something different then goodell who no one gives a shtein about. plus it's gotta be cool for the kids being picked.
I'm really happy for some kid I never met that he gets to have his name called by someone famous. Who cares? It's turning into a circus just like the Superbowl.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
wow did anyone just hear berman
His amazement that the Eagles traded with the Cowboys?
exactly...like wtf?
the biggest story of the nfl offseason surrounded the trade of a qb that opened up a starting spot for a guy that was aquired from the trade fo a first round pick with the cowboys
And that trade itself was with another divisional rival... so they really should no longer be surprised when these things happen.
Also, they made a trade with the Giants recently (last year?) that netted the Giants some big-ass WR named Ramses Barden.
Wow..great pick for the Texans
take colt take colt take colt
Eagles trade the pick
Another trade, I think.
By the way, the Tate pick made NFLN actually mention RYAN MOATS!
lol - another trade...
Browns? Ok, I get it. shtein.
I'm going surfing. farg you Howie.
wheeling and dealing
Had a feeling.
lmfao another trade
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 08:04:29 PM
take colt take colt take colt
yes please
Browns will take McCoy in a spot the Eagles used to have?
Keep moving back. :yay
So, what now? They're going to take half the fourth round this year?
Browns trading up to get Colt before Seattle?
They can't stand not having a third
Trade was for the 71st, 134th, and 146
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 08:04:29 PM
take colt take colt take colt
At this rate we'll be stuck with Colt Brennan.
I dont like it.
seattle just got the shaft with mccoy
well, nevermind that shtein
Got their third and BOTH of the Browns 5ths. Nice.
or not
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:06:49 PM
Trade was for the 71st, 134th, and 146
Great trade.
Im so confused. trade for another pick in the third maybe?
there is however a limit to how often you can trade back and get some value, even in a rich draft
So, they've now traded #55 for #71, #125, #134, and #146.
This is awesome. MAJOR HARD ON WATCHING DAY 3.
so they went from 1 1st, 2 2nds, and 2 3rds, to what's probably going to end up being 1 1st, 1 2nd, and 2 3rds...
four for one?
von hayes??
yeah thats a great trade
heres where we stand
round - pick - pick in round
3 - 71 - 7
4 - 105 - 7
4 - 121 - 23
4 - 125 - 27
5 - 134 - 3
6 - 200 - 31
7 - 243 - 36
7 - 244 - 37
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
yeah thats a great trade
heres where we stand
round - pick - pick in round
3 - 71 - 7
4 - 105 - 7
4 - 121 - 23
4 - 125 - 27
5 - 134 - 3
6 - 200 - 31
7 - 243 - 36
7 - 244 - 37
You forgot 146.
Is Steve Young dipping?
I guess the Eagles don't want an OT because Brown will probably be gone.
8 picks tomorrow. lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
yeah thats a great trade
heres where we stand
round - pick - pick in round
3 - 71 - 7
4 - 105 - 7
4 - 121 - 23
4 - 125 - 27
5 - 134 - 3
5 - 146 - 15
6 - 200 - 31
7 - 243 - 36
7 - 244 - 37
Rumor the Eagles wanted RB Ben Tate before the Texans traded up for him.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
Is Steve Young dipping?
i don't know, but Brian Billick flat out took a bite of a sandwich while on tv about an hour ago
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:15:31 PM
Rumor the Eagles wanted RB Ben Tate before the Texans traded up for him.
Makes some sense. Why else would the Texans trade up? That said 2nd round is a bit early for a RB unless he's a gamebreaker type (like Joe McKnight, maybe). Shady's the truth.
Quote from: King Cole on April 23, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
I guess the Eagles don't want an OT because Brown will probably be gone.
Why would they take a Tackle that high when both their starters are signed long term? Never understood why people keep insisting a tackle is a need.
genuine LOL at Golden Tate diving into the ND band, who all stand aside and let him crash to the floor
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 23, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
I guess the Eagles don't want an OT because Brown will probably be gone.
Why would they take a Tackle that high when both their starters are signed long term? Never understood why people keep insisting a tackle is a need.
agreed, but they do need a guard or center
You're not a believer in the Mike McGlynn hype, Sunny?
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: King Cole on April 23, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
I guess the Eagles don't want an OT because Brown will probably be gone.
Why would they take a Tackle that high when both their starters are signed long term? Never understood why people keep insisting a tackle is a need.
I agree.
you made that name up
I really like what Baltimore does every farging year.
I'm pretty sure that gay ny song from the series is never going to go away. fargin espn
farging jerkoff Jets fans acting like they know who that is and like it
eagles dont specifically need a tackle but brown could def play guard and andy loves those multi position guys...not to mention his love of lineman in general
Quote from: LBIggle on April 23, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that gay ny song from the series is never going to go away. fargin espn
song is amazing
and incredibly overplayed
I've got nothing against adding OL depth right now
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:23:14 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on April 23, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that gay ny song from the series is never going to go away. fargin espn
song is amazing
and incredibly overplayed
talk about smash hit...my god that song is gonna be played forever
the next time Jon Gruden doesn't say something is "amazing" or "great" will be the first
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:23:19 PM
I've got nothing against adding OL depth right now
not at three....use a bunch of the 40 4th rounders they have for that
NE got Brandon Spikes, good draft pick for them
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
the next time Jon Gruden doesn't say something is "amazing" or "great" will be the first
He wore thin on me around the 2nd week of the season. Every farging player that makes a good play "he leads the league in grit". Shut the farg up already.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:23:19 PM
I've got nothing against adding OL depth right now
they need a friggin center in the worst way. Jackson will be 30 next week, running on 1 leg and is garbage anyway. Nick Cole is not the answer there.
yeah, by "right now" I mean, this draft.
at three they should be getting CB or LB help
the farg is going on with everson griffin?
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
the next time Jon Gruden doesn't say something is "amazing" or "great" will be the first
He wore thin on me around the 2nd week of the season. Every farging player that makes a good play "he leads the league in grit". Shut the farg up already.
somebody should get him some hair jell or a dryer so he doesn't look like he got picked up at the local shelter
Slow 40 time, so all of the sudden a great player is a reach in the late 2nd. Mel Kiper likes penis.
deepest draft in years!
let's let everybody else pick though
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
the farg is going on with everson griffin?
I've been wondering that but haven't asked, figuring since he's dropped so far, everyone knew and I didn't want to make an ass of myself.
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
the next time Jon Gruden doesn't say something is "amazing" or "great" will be the first
He wore thin on me around the 2nd week of the season. Every farging player that makes a good play "he leads the league in grit". Shut the farg up already.
somebody should get him some hair jell or a dryer so he doesn't look like he got picked up at the local shelter
haha
It annoys me that he tries to come across as an average guy, like I'm expecting him to have elbow patches on his suit jacket.
Pat Angerer looks angry.
I said angry, because his name is Angerer.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
the farg is going on with everson griffin?
USC Players have a definite stigma this year
lol @ pat angerer
I prefer Jerry Jones' when he's drunk
And there goes Charles Brown
Jerry is giggling about trading with Philly.
Just look at the shtein eating grin on Jerry's face when Boomer says "trade with Philadelphia Eagles"
Pick values per chart:
55 - 350
59 - 310
125 - 47
(Eagles gain 7 whole points)
59 - 310
71 - 235
134 - 39
146 - 33
(Eagles actually lose 3 points)
So, 4 point gain... but considering how many open spots there are on the camp roster, I give it a passing grade of C-.
no nfl draft is complete without at least five video conferences with skeletor.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 08:32:18 PM
Pick values per chart:
55 - 350
59 - 310
125 - 47
(Eagles gain 7 whole points)
59 - 310
71 - 235
134 - 39
146 - 33
(Eagles actually lose 3 points)
So, 4 point gain... but considering how many open spots there are on the camp roster, I give it a passing grade of C-.
getting the three = win
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:31:25 PM
Just look at the shtein eating grin on Jerry's face when Boomer says "trade with Philadelphia Eagles"
he wont be smiling when cobb throws 8 td's in anthony spencers FACE this year
now they're showing the implosion of that gaping come dumpster they called texas stadium.
get this cockbag off the screen, please.
lol
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 08:31:25 PM
Just look at the shtein eating grin on Jerry's face when Boomer says "trade with Philadelphia Eagles"
he wont be smiling when cobb throws 8 td's in anthony spencers FACE this year
You are so much more fun when you drink.
Ghee might be available at 71
more and longer interviews please
Daryll Washington gone
Rome, you spelled cum wrong, based on context.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
Ghee might be available at 71
That would make me
ghee-dy.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
Ghee might be available at 71
ANd still chillin in the green room
Thanks to whatever cell phone company Clausen uses
at this point i either want McCoy to be drafted right now or to hang himself with Jenn Brown desperately trying to lift him up to relieve the pressure on his neck
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
Rome, you spelled cum wrong, based on context.
yes, i know. there's ladies present, though.
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 08:38:17 PM
Thanks to whatever cell phone company Clausen uses
I think that was him making a static sound and hanging up, to avoid any more run-on questions by Berman.
golden tate looks awful.
no size, and the burst of christopher reeve
This draft is really pissing me off. Especially when the Eagles try to feed us that garbage that they didn't think the talent level was that different rounds 2-5.
No surprise I guess, but it still manages to anger me.
burst of chris reeve?
i refuse to laugh at that.
I think Chris Reeve might be dead.
it sounded like they were announcing another eagle trade in the background
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:40:01 PM
golden tate looks awful.
no size, and the burst of brett michaels
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
I think Chris Reeve might be dead.
His gaseous corpse certainly has burst.
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:41:43 PM
it sounded like they were announcing another eagle trade in the background
I wonder if they are trading up, since all of the CBs are coming off the board.
Mays throwing verbal haymakers at Pete Carrol. Says he was misled, and he gets to see him and his team twice a year, yada yada. That oughta be interesting.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:41:43 PM
it sounded like they were announcing another eagle trade in the background
I wonder if they are trading up, since all of the CBs are coming off the board.
i thought nate allen was a cb
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 08:43:35 PM
Mays throwing verbal haymakers at Pete Carrol. Says he was misled, and he gets to see him and his team twice a year, yada yada. That oughta be interesting.
proving why he wasn't drafted higher...not a genius
oddly, Jon Gruden thing Pat Angerer is a great name and a great fit
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 08:43:35 PM
Mays throwing verbal haymakers at Pete Carrol. Says he was misled, and he gets to see him and his team twice a year, yada yada. That oughta be interesting.
Worst safety in the NFL.
that was the lineman i had pegged if they were gonna take one
wow did steve young just NAIL IT
na
I thought that was the Eagles pick at 71. Damn.
SO who do they go now?
Navorro Bowman?
Everson Griffen?
Brandon Ghee?
Please no Bruce Campbell.
"Pat Angerer is gonna be the captain of the all Chucky team"
Gruden = bukkake of stupidty
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
I thought that was the Eagles pick at 71. Damn.
SO who do they go now?
Navorro Bowman?
Everson Griffen?
Brandon Ghee?
Please no Bruce Campbell.
colt mccoy
"not sure why they call it a sleep over" lol classic. so true man, so true.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
I thought that was the Eagles pick at 71. Damn.
SO who do they go now?
Navorro Bowman?
Everson Griffen?
Brandon Ghee?
Please no Bruce Campbell.
colt mccoy
No way.
But I do think he'll go to BUF after the Eagles
sapp
mcknight
watson
hernandez
dwyer
dickerson
cox
jones
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
"not sure why they call it a sleep over" lol classic. so true man, so true.
The kids that stay at your house keep one eye open for another reason.
Eagles traded pick to Packers
lololol
TRADE
GB on the clock
unreal
Holy shtein.
holy shtein enough is enough
Again
this is getting a little ridiculous.
no problem with it....so many good players on the board
holy shtein they traded again
whats the deal sd
Keep trading and stockpiling the picks.
They got 86 and 122.
i don't care how deep the draft is, 4th and 5th round picks are longshots...this is farging stupid
WTF?
I can't stand Rachel Nicols
This is getting gay
Quote from: SunMo on April 23, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
i don't care how deep the draft is, 4th and 5th round picks are longshots...this is farging stupid
yeah but the picks right now are no better or worse than the picks in the next rounds
i mean some picks are gonna come off the board but i cant recall a draft that ive followed that has been better than this one
someone might want to tell Roseman that you can't accumulate enough picks to crawl back in time for another second round pick
this is the 12th sequel in the "we're smarter than everyone else" movie franchise.
71 - 235 points
86 - 160 points
122 - 50 points
They lost too much value on this one. This is getting dumb.
getting?
howie is petrified to make another pick
(http://www.wtamu.edu/library/books/images/mclean3.jpg)
3 - 86 - 22
4 - 105 - 7
4 - 121 - 23
4 - 122 - 24
4 - 125 - 27
5 - 134 - 3
5 - 146 - 15
6 - 200 - 31
7 - 243 - 36
7 - 244 - 37
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 23, 2010, 08:55:14 PM
71 - 235 points
86 - 160 points
122 - 50 points
They lost too much value on this one. This is getting dumb.
youre nerding this up now...the chart is a guide...its doesnt apply the same to drafts like this one as it would to a weak draft
all of the players on their board are still available.
it's all good. just be patient.
They now own 12.5% of the picks in the 4th round
Brandon Ghee sucks. I've watched every Wake game the last 4 years and he isn't good. He played well two years ago when they had Alphonso Smith taking the #1 WR, but last year he got abused. He has good height/weight/hand size stats but he is not going to be a good player.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 23, 2010, 08:59:38 PM
Brandon Ghee sucks. I've watched every Wake game the last 4 years and he isn't good. He played well two years ago when they had Alphonso Smith taking the #1 WR, but last year he got abused. He has good height/weight/hand size stats but he is not going to be a good player.
concur
He looks weird. Huge ears on that dude
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
all of the players on their board are still available.
it's all good. just be patient.
White linebackers?
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 23, 2010, 08:59:38 PM
Brandon Ghee sucks. I've watched every Wake game the last 4 years and he isn't good. He played well two years ago when they had Alphonso Smith taking the #1 WR, but last year he got abused. He has good height/weight/hand size stats but he is not going to be a good player.
I just watched his highlight tape and I agree, pass.
LOL at the highlight tape of a shirtless Tebow bricking a dunk attempt
i wont pretend to know most of or any of the late round guys but i count at least 23 2nd round to 3rd round grades still out there....and thats off a quick scan of the board
who are the top mormons left on the board?
why did i waste my time even watchign this shtein, when they just trade everything away
d'anthony smith = 4th rounder
major wright = late 5
things continue to go well
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
why did i waste my time even watchign this shtein, when they just trade everything away
I believe
Joel answered that question earlier. Something about actual ball gags and ass rape being less fun.
oh good, some Tim Teebow talk. this draft has lacked that
lol
Urgan Meyer "I would have taken Tebow #1 overall"
dipshtein
chad jones is one of the guys right in allens league
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:08:10 PM
chad jones is one of the guys right in allens league
Impossible. He's a Giant now, so he sucks and Allen ROROOOOOOLLZLZ
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
Urgan Meyer "I would have taken Tebow #1 overall"
dipshtein
Wow, very objective opinion. Did they ask Tebow's mom what position she would have drafted him?
you are all going to feel like douches when the eagles trade 5 fourth and fifth rounds picks for asomagoogoo whatever
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 09:10:22 PMDid they ask Tebow's mom what position she would have drafted him?
Missionary. They're sanctimonious Christians.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: SD on April 23, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
Urgan Meyer "I would have taken Tebow #1 overall"
dipshtein
Wow, very objective opinion. Did they ask Tebow's mom what position she would have drafted him?
Trick question. I'd say doggie, but it could just be missionary.
How come nobody sent me the T-Ball signup sheet?
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 09:10:48 PM
Missionary.
I literally laughed out loud at this.
And you didn't need to add the other part either.
Damn you, Dio.
Hello, Good Morning... Hello... AARAHHGHGHGH
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2010, 09:12:27 PMAnd you didn't need to add the other part either.
Point taken.
This was the fear I had months ago when Roseman was hired. Reid already had his car running in the parking lot after #37.
Round 4 and above are Rosemans picks. Get pumped for impact players.
They need to trade their 4 4ths for the entire 5th round, and only draft guys with last names starting with "C." Fits their track record of success.
On the bright side, we know for sure the Eagles can't trade any compensatory picks. The seventh round is going to ROCK.
How is Everson Griffen still available? Did he get caught raping a nun or something?
the higher rated players are starting to go now...not positions the eagles need but they are going
ooops and there goes butler
two white wr in mels top four
FAIL
Drew Brees owns the NFL?
Who knew?
griffen
hernandez
cox
sapp
dwyer
capers
mcknight
wootton
dickerson
sanders
I'm predicting a trade down with the Bears here. All those B teams lumped together with the Eagles in the middle, it doesn't look right.
probably werent taking him but i really liked sanders
I like Mcknight, just not sure where he fits in the draft. And i do like Shipley
Jonathan Dwyer.
i feel like mcknight could go now or in the 5th round
Quote from: General_Failure on April 23, 2010, 09:23:56 PM
I'm predicting a trade down with the Bears here. All those B teams lumped together with the Eagles in the middle, it doesn't look right.
they keep moving down their post draft grade will be a (?)
If the Browns don't take McCoy, the Eagles should.
like mack brown would not announce mccoy
gay
aww, Mack picked Colt
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 09:32:30 PM
If the Browns don't take McCoy, the Eagles should.
where do you rank his blonde bitch?
Colt's girlfriend = skinny.white.bitch
in order of likelihood:
Eagles trade this pick
Eagles forfeit the pick by indecision
Eagles pick a loser
Eagles pick a decent player
Eagles pick a solid player
Eagles pick a stud
Hey they actually made a pick
I'm expecting Pitta, he's mormom
Another trade wtf?!?!?
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 09:35:15 PM
in order of likelihood:
Eagles trade this pick
Eagles forfeit the pick by indecision
Eagles pick a loser
Eagles pick a decent player
Eagles pick a solid player
Eagles pick a stud
Roseman used all that time between picks to toke up, since he was nervous about making picks, and then tries to draft Godzilla.
Daniel Te'O-Nesheim
Daniel Teo-neisham??? DE?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2010, 09:37:01 PM
Daniel Te'O-Nesheim
They need DE's like they need 4th round picks
i dont know anything about him but this is starting to get disgusting
He's from Hawaii, DonHo is happy
Someone somewhere is getting moved to LB.
From NFL.com
Quote
Te'o-Nesheim has been a productive four-year starter for the Huskies defense. Te'o-Nesheim is an undersized defensive end that wins with toughness, effort, instincts and technique. He lacks great quickness, burst and agility as a pass rusher but does a nice job using his hands to counter effectively. Te'o-Nesheim will have a tough time anchoring effectively versus the run and doesn't possess the speed, quickness and agility to project to an outside backer in a 3-4 defensive scheme. His high motor, leadership skills, toughness and instincts gives him a chance but he clearly overachieved in college and is not likely to transition well at the next level.
Jesus.
I'm getting moved to rage.
fargin' Eagles.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 23, 2010, 09:39:04 PM
From NFL.com
Quote
Te'o-Nesheim has been a productive four-year starter for the Huskies defense. Te'o-Nesheim is an undersized defensive end that wins with toughness, effort, instincts and technique. He lacks great quickness, burst and agility as a pass rusher but does a nice job using his hands to counter effectively. Te'o-Nesheim will have a tough time anchoring effectively versus the run and doesn't possess the speed, quickness and agility to project to an outside backer in a 3-4 defensive scheme. His high motor, leadership skills, toughness and instincts gives him a chance but he clearly overachieved in college and is not likely to transition well at the next level.
Jesus.
lololololololololololololololol
His high motor, leadership skills
Colt McCoy "God's plan is perfect"
God's mock had you ranked in the mid 2nd round dipshtein
He grades out as a 2.0 on NFL.com's draft tracker. Lowest grade of any pick in the 3rd round. Sandwiched between a 7.6 and a 7.7.
BRUTAL, guess he replaces Gocong for the asian quota
Quote
Does not have the size to play defensive end at the next level and lacks the athleticism to play outside linebacker. Slow getting off the ball and does not have the lateral agility to get around the edge. Gets pushed around in the running game and does not have the speed to make plays from the backside
Supposedly dude was ranked by most as an UDFA. What. The. farg?
(https://mwvsciencefair.wikispaces.com/file/view/turpentine.jpg/51527057/turpentine.jpg)
Drink up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 07:09:03 PM
yeah someone explain to me how you take nat allen over kindle
oh yeah "character guy"
if i hear that one more time after an eagles pick im gonna puke
i thought there were headed in the right direction after the last couple years but they seem to be back on it...which is ironic a year after signing vick
Wow... New GM, same crappy drafting. I guess after the "Donovan Pick" they just stopped caring.
Ah. Just like Gocong. Supposedly the Patriots "were interested" in this bag of balls.
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4677162/10-possible-pats-sacks-his-specialty
I'm hearing the Eagles didn't mean to trade Gocong to the Browns and they tried to trade back for Gocong for 55, but couldn't so they traded down and took this guy.
Do not like.
Quote from: King Cole on April 23, 2010, 09:45:34 PM
I'm hearing the Eagles didn't mean to trade Gocong to the Browns and they tried to trade back for Gocong for 55, but couldn't so they traded down and took this guy.
Please tell me that's a joke. Well, either way it's a joke but at least tell me that was an attempt at humor because if it's not someone's head needs to roll. The Pats at least drafted some players before this round. The Eagles are doing God knows what at the moment. What they hell do they need all those 4th rounders for?
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 23, 2010, 09:47:59 PM
What they hell do they need all those 4th rounders for?
FASTBALLS!
Reid PC a couple minutes away.
This FO is so farging inept it's beyond description. I was ok with rd 1. Rd 2 was going well until they traded back. Now they're in full on clusterfarg mode.
Boomer trying to get Reid to say Te'O Nesheim's name.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 09:52:32 PM
Boomer trying to get Reid to say Ne'O Nasheim's name.
So we'll be calling him Neo then?
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 09:49:22 PM
Reid PC a couple minutes away.
The "T.O.--Te'O" joke was just thrown down by the fat man.
Reid is a fat disgusting smug piece of shtein.
He was looking to draft football players and think he got them... in the NFL Draft... really Reid? Ya think? Why the farg else would they be there? To play hopscotch? I can't wait until this guy is done in Philly.
Bwahahahahaahahahahahah!
Reid: "Tell that guy screaming at me to run the ball in the background to be quiet a minute"
as guy screams "REID...RUN THE BALL!!!" over and over
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 23, 2010, 09:55:03 PM
He was looking to draft football players and think he got them... in the NFL Draft... really Reid? Ya think? Why the farg else would they be there? To play hopscotch? I can't wait until this guy is done in Philly.
To be fair, they did play hopscotch.
holy shtein.
hahahahahahaha
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:33 PM
Bwahahahahaahahahahahah!
Reid: "Tell that guy screaming at me to run the ball in the background to be quiet a minute"
as guy screams "REID...RUN THE BALL!" over and over
And then says "Hey, tell those guys yellin at me that we're taking these guys to make 'em happy!"
He was thrown off by the people screaming at him
Reid just made a joke to Steve Young about having to get his BYU guy. Now, I'm officially uncomfortable.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 09:57:19 PM
And then says "Hey, tell those guys yellin at me that we're taking these guys to make 'em happy!"
2 DEs and a safety help you run the ball?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 09:57:19 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:33 PM
Bwahahahahaahahahahahah!
Reid: "Tell that guy screaming at me to run the ball in the background to be quiet a minute"
as guy screams "REID...RUN THE BALL!" over and over
And then says "Hey, tell those guys yellin at me that we're taking these guys to make 'em happy!"
He was thrown off by the people screaming at him
Sounds like MDS finally did something useful with his journalism gig.
now you see that...why couldnt the farging eagles trade that shtein pick for a 2nd rounder next year like their idols just did?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
The '03 and '04 drafts say hello.
Quote from: reese125 on April 23, 2010, 10:04:56 PM
now you see that...why couldnt the farging eagles trade that shtein pick for a 2nd rounder next year like their idols just did?
Clearly, TeOOnicheream had too much value to do that.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
The '03 and '04 drafts say hello.
20/20 hindsight
give this baby a year or two
Fatso has a PC on PE.com right now
foresight being better than 20/20
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 10:09:05 PMFatso has a PC on PE.com right now
a copy performance of what he just did no doubt. pretty cocksure and easy feeling tonight
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
The '03 and '04 drafts say hello.
20/20 hindsight
give this baby a year or two
They could have stuck with the picks they had, thrown darts at the wall, and might have had a better chance of finding three or four guys who will still be on the team in five years. Farg it, I don't care. This is still a throwaway season.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 23, 2010, 10:09:05 PMFatso has a PC on PE.com right now
a copy performance of what he just did no doubt. pretty cocksure and easy feeling tonight
Worst selection of the draft was that shirt.
forget the nine 4th rounders the soweegan sand artist could have been gotten with
their second 5th rounder could have been used on him
instead they use the 3rd that they busted their calculators trying to get on him
professionals
Pedro Gomez is definitely a stylishly-dressed old man.
get ready for the nine picks tomorrow:
3 traded away for move-ups
2 traded away for 2011 picks that will eventually be used on more hawaiians
remaining 4 spent drafting trash
that last pick has to go down as the worst trade-down scenerio pick in reids history...shtein maybe any coaches history.
Talked to Don Ho, he's stuck in traffic, and he's saying this guy was moving up the charts. Eitehr way, not a fan of this pick at all, reach pick. I'm betting his dad was a fisherman
Just once I'd like the Eagles NOT to do what they did tonight. It's absolute insanity taking a guy that high who has no business being taken there and they do it year after year after year after year...
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
The '03 and '04 drafts say hello.
20/20 hindsight
give this baby a year or two
I don't know because I wasn't a member of the board in '03 but I was stoked about it. Not sure about the '04 draft. So far in this draft I like the first two picks a lot.
Te'Nutsack I have no clue who the dude is, I think I have seen maybe 1 or 2 UW games over the last 5 years. And that was the game last season against ND.
That picked sucked the wind outta my sails. I was diggin the trading down to go along with the Graham/Allen picks.
But it makes me simmer that they took this guy who they could have had in the 4th.
AND the fact the Pats dealt the 3rd for a #2 next year.
they picked three guys in two days who have no nfl talent
lots of motors
lots of character
talent not so much
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:20:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
i actually feel sorry for reid having to go up and explain the ineptitude of those two midgets
WORST DRAFT EVER
The '03 and '04 drafts say hello.
20/20 hindsight
give this baby a year or two
I don't know because I wasn't a member of the board in '03 but I was stoked about it. Not sure about the '04 draft. So far in this draft I like the first two picks a lot.
Te'Nutsack I have no clue who the dude is, I think I have seen maybe 1 or 2 UW games over the last 5 years. And that was the game last season against ND.
where was he playing? because according to the scouting reports he was able to line up wherever he wanted on the field. I mean, he was that good.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:22:11 PM
they picked three guys in two days who have no nfl talent
lots of motors
lots of character
talent not so much
Graham has no talent none. :-D
Allen is the worst safety ever! Dude you are hilarious. You, me, and whoever else have no clue if these guys have NFL talent or not.
Anybody have anybody they would like to see taken tomorrow. I would like to see Perrish Cox, Dominique Franks, the kid from IUP, or Thad Gibson.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
Anybody have anybody they would like to see taken tomorrow.
Using the picks on players would be a nice change of pace, I think.
graham has college talent thats about it
allen is fine...whatever...i dont care about him either way...he will start some games but will ultimately be replaced by a better player
the soweegan sand artist....I have nothing to contribute
Quote from: TexasEagle on April 23, 2010, 09:47:59 PM
The Eagles are doing God knows what at the moment. What they hell do they need all those 4th rounders for?
Looking for the next Brandon Marshall, Shaun Phillips, Marion Barber, Jared Allen or Asante Samuel?
Oh wait, this is the Eagles...sigh.
ha
they have 121 122 and 125
Oh, now I get it. This draft is so loaded with talent that those fourth round picks are like high third round picks in a regular draft, right? Right? Maybe even low second! That totally makes up for trading down five hundred times. Totally!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
graham has college talent thats about it
allen is fine...whatever...i dont care about him either way...he will start some games but will ultimately be replaced by a better player
the soweegan sand artist....I have nothing to contribute
So the guy who was considered to have the best Senior Bowl Week beating guys all week in drills has no talent? I am not going to mention the game because that really doesn't mean too much. He did 32 reps and ran a respectable 40.
Right no NFL talent.
Now gentlemen, we all know the Draft is a crap-shoot at best. I bet if you break down the statistics round by round you have nearly as much percentage to luck out and get a franchise player in the 6th round as the 1st.
But again this is the current Eagles FO so that makes it twice as exciting!
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:34:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
graham has college talent thats about it
allen is fine...whatever...i dont care about him either way...he will start some games but will ultimately be replaced by a better player
the soweegan sand artist....I have nothing to contribute
So the guy who was considered to have the best Senior Bowl Week beating guys all week in drills has no talent? I am not going to mention the game because that really doesn't mean too much. He did 32 reps and ran a respectable 40.
Right no NFL talent.
yeah all thats great but i dont see the translation to the nfl
time will tell whether hes a true impact player
The last time IGY bitched this much was Celek and Bradley.
I don't like the pick of Te'o-nesheim either, but I swear the draft is the only time where people react going off other people's opinions. I don't like it because I didn't think we needed ANOTHER DE/OLB hybrid. But the draft is the only time someone can truly hate a pick without knowing anything of a player. That's why the whole draft thing is really out of control.
At least in free agency everyone here has seen a ton of the players out there to make a call.
never ever bitched about bradley...just made fun of his college photo
so now youre down to one player i was wrong on
congrats
Quote from: King Cole on April 23, 2010, 10:40:26 PM
The last time IGY bitched this much was when he opened the fridge today and saw he was out of mustard.
IGY calling something horrible is not a reliable measurement either way.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
Anybody have anybody they would like to see taken tomorrow.
It'd be nice if they draft somebody during the draft for a change. I can't wait to see how many UFAs they grab this year.
Well the point is you are saying he has no NFL talent, I didn't say he would be an impact player. I could totally see him being a solid yet unspectacular player. Though you could say that about a lot of players.
Personally I like the way he plays and I think he has great talent. He was highly effective on a team that didn't have much else the last 2 years.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:30:42 PM
ha
they have 121 122 and 125
Bet they trade all three picks for a bag of cheeseburgers.
Assuming they use half the picks they hold, I can see the Eagles drafting at least two runningbacks, a punter, and a quarterback tomorrow.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:45:07 PM
Well the point is you are saying he has no NFL talent, I didn't say he would be an impact player. I could totally see him being a solid yet unspectacular player. Though you could say that about a lot of players.
Personally I like the way he plays and I think he has great talent. He was highly effective on a team that didn't have much else the last 2 years.
so does he have great talent or will he just be solid...i dont get it
and him being just solid is not worth two picks
i have no doubt he could be solid...but i dont want solid in the first round much less two 3rd rounders for solid
I hate Andy Reid.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:45:07 PM
Well the point is you are saying he has no NFL talent, I didn't say he would be an impact player. I could totally see him being a solid yet unspectacular player. Though you could say that about a lot of players.
Personally I like the way he plays and I think he has great talent. He was highly effective on a team that didn't have much else the last 2 years.
so does he have great talent or will he just be solid...i dont get it
and him being just solid is not worth two picks
i have no doubt he could be solid...but i dont want solid in the first round much less two 3rd rounders for solid
I guess what I am trying to say is I think he is going to be either great or solid. To me he is not a pick that will be a total bust. His ceiling might not be as high as say JPP, but he has imo a very low floor.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 10:52:49 PMTo me he is not a pick that will be a total bust. His ceiling might not be as high as say JPP, but he has imo a very low ceiling.
what?
I meant floor, my bust.
Stucko
and not low floor..high floor. right?
All these moving surfaces are making me dizzy.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 10:58:49 PM
and not low floor..high floor. right?
farg! you know what I mean. Sorry I am getting pretty tired. I had a football game tonight and feel like sthein.
you should submit a highlight reel. Andy might draft you.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2010, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 10:58:49 PM
and not low floor..high floor. right?
farg! you know what I mean. Sorry I am getting pretty tired. I had a football game tonight and feel like sthein.
What's your major?
I am slow and white so that is a plus, don't really believe in god though......I guess that fargs me. My major what the hell does that have to do with anything?
Quote from: Diomedes on April 23, 2010, 11:01:13 PM
you should submit a highlight reel. Andy might draft you.
Just make sure you dub "high motor" over your head at all times you're on screen and you're in!
Tomorrow starts at 10?? Cool. I guess.
PM right? I mean who isn't tired of being up all night for the god gamn primetime version of the draft. Which sucks by the way. This was the most horrible draft ever. And they barely covered anything that wasn't named Tebow or Clausen.
whats your take on the first three picks dh
I was that CB from IUP, Owusu-Ansah.
Oh were you?
It looks like he got better.
Yes. Yes, i was.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2010, 11:12:43 PM
whats your take on the first three picks dh
i like graham. if what he was able to do on a bad squad translates to the pros, then great he could be the guy to pair w cole for a while. its big risk though..were gonna be watching earl thomas for years..and personally i woulda taken him.
allen at 37 was what i wanted since before this bitch even began yesterday. ive watched almost every game he's played, and a bunch of them live - the kids a player. he's gotta up the intensity a bit and start knockin some dudes around but that will come. i really wonder if they would taken dexmac at 37 if kc didnt snag him..
as for new TO, what that farg? i really wanted asomoah at some point and wish they wouldnt have traded themselves out of his reach. hes gonna be a stud for years. but new TO looks like a gocong/bryan smith clone which can only mean one thing - a year on IR, an unwarranted starting gig, then a trade to the giants for a 5th rounder.
days 1/2 get a B-
I'd also like to see them grab Jonathon Dwyer
I was going over the players that are left and it is amazing to me how many talented guys are still on the board.
I guess this draft really is deep.....maybe that is why Reid and Co. tried to accumulate so many 4th rounders to recoup some of what they lost trading up for Graham.
If the Eagles can find a way to trade for a legit starting CB with some of the remaining picks, then I will have no problem with what the team has done so far. That's the only real puzzling thing.
Major needs: DE - addressed. Safety - addressed. Corner - nothing.
Unless they think Macho can move back to corner.
You forgot interior O-line as a need.
Unless you want McGlynn/Cole starting in front of Kolb...
Anyone have a 'best of what's left' list they want to post, you useless windbags?
Quote from: rjs246 on April 24, 2010, 07:47:26 AM
Anyone have a 'best of what's left' list they want to post, you useless windbags?
I got this from your favorite site (http://www.nesn.com/2010/04/ten-best-players-left-on-board-for-day-three-of-nfl-draft.html).
That's really only marginally useful, but thanks anyway, sugar.
By the way, there's no limit to the number of Army of Darkness pictures I will post if the Eagles end up with Bruce Campbell.
Like this one?
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7481/75386248.jpg)
Quote from: rjs246 on April 24, 2010, 08:10:02 AM
By the way, there's no limit to the number of Army of Darkness pictures I will post if the Eagles end up with Bruce Campbell.
I'm surprised he didn't go in the 1st round on name basis alone! ;)
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 12:25:42 AM
maybe that is why Reid and Co. tried to accumulate so many 4th rounders to recoup some of what they lost trading up for Graham.
i thought that at first...but its clear now they did it because they knew the someegan would be there almost no matter where they traded down to
today is gonna be sick...such a better panel and tons of eagle picks
guess that just ended any chance of going back to saturday
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 10:03:24 AM
today is gonna be sick...such a better panel and tons of eagle picks
They're gonna draft so many linemen.
im not against that but i hope they mix in some talent and some guys they nornally wouldnt take...you should be taking chances with high ceiling guys when you have this many picks
perrish cox has off the field issues but he would be a great get today
dezmon briscoe is a avant clone but i really like him
aron henandexz as i said yesterday could be sick in the offense if they institute a h back colley type position (dorin dickerson in the same mold)
jonathan dwyer not exactly a guy they need but great value right now
or mike williams
I think Dwyer absolutely is a guy they need. A young powerback is something they've needed for a long, long time. I don't think Bell is anything more than a stopgap. I love seeing Weaver get carries, but put Weaver at FB and a guy like Dwyer at tailback, and pound the rock.
well they need a lot of things more than they need another running right now back is what im saying
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
im not against that but i hope they mix in some talent and some guys they nornally wouldnt take...you should be taking chances with high ceiling guys when you have this many picks
perrish cox has off the field issues but he would be a great get today
dezmon briscoe is a avant clone but i really like him
aron henandexz as i said yesterday could be sick in the offense if they institute a h back colley type position (dorin dickerson in the same mold)
jonathan dwyer not exactly a guy they need but great value right now
Cox would be perfect at this point. I can't believe Hernandez is still on the board. I really wouldn't mind a DT like one of the kids from UGA. Hell Andy could cure his BYU jones and draft Pitta, dude can play.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 24, 2010, 10:20:59 AM
I think Dwyer absolutely is a guy they need. A young powerback is something they've needed for a long, long time. I don't think Bell is anything more than a stopgap. I love seeing Weaver get carries, but put Weaver at FB and a guy like Dwyer at tailback, and pound the rock.
You know they won't do that, even if they draft the guy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 10:05:59 AM
guess that just ended any chance of going back to saturday
What was said?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 10:05:59 AM
guess that just ended any chance of going back to saturday
What was said?
goodell opened today by saying more people have watched this draft than any other and thanked everyone for going along with the changes
Quote from: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 24, 2010, 10:20:59 AM
I think Dwyer absolutely is a guy they need. A young powerback is something they've needed for a long, long time. I don't think Bell is anything more than a stopgap. I love seeing Weaver get carries, but put Weaver at FB and a guy like Dwyer at tailback, and pound the rock.
You know they won't do that, even if they draft the guy.
All jokes aside, I think they will run the ball this year. They aren't going to be the Vickings or the Titans, but with Kolb back there I think the offense will look a lot like it did when Garcia was playing. It'll also help the O-line if they have them in less pass protection.
Lindley
Nice pick. Had a bum ankle last season I think.
Good pick, guy could have been taken in the 3rd round. I like that they're going all D even though I don't agree with their picks. Nickel corner guy to develop.
24-yr old rookie
Glad they are going all defense. Certainly can't argue with that.
The Raiders finally drafted Bruce Campbell.
So can we officially start hating this new "FO" or "Regime" or do we still have to give it time? Does not seem much different than the previous regime.
I HATE HATE HATE HATE THIS FO AND COACH.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 24, 2010, 10:43:57 AM
So can we officially start hating this new "FO" or "Regime" or do we still have to give it time? Does not seem much different than the previous regime.
I HATE HATE HATE HATE THIS FO AND COACH.
im not happy so far but nine picks today deserve a chance to be judged
and really doesnt the whole class need a couple years to be truly judged
doesnt mean we cant crash and burn this weekend tho
holla
What makes them any different? Half of these picks will be trades for more picks next yr. Those picks then will be traded further for the draft 2 yrs from now. Hooray lets keep rebuilding!
farg there goes mcknight
McKnight to the Jets
kirk morrison traded to the jags
talent starting to fall by the wayside now
I liked McKnight too, but really, where would he fit in this offenses with McCoy?
Pats get Hernandez. Damn.
i dont want a rb, but if i had to pick, id take dwyer way before mcknight
Not really sure why the Eagles haven't used any of their picks to move back up in this round.
I'd like them to grab Pike/Kafka soon.
New England is stockpiling the Urban Meyer guys, taking 3 of them already
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on April 24, 2010, 10:54:14 AM
I liked McKnight too, but really, where would he fit in this offenses with McCoy?
totally different players...mcknight would be a third down type back...you could slot him out like they used to with westbrook
thats what was so special about 3-6...he could be the best tailback in the nfl or the best 3rd down back in the nfl all at the same time...god i already miss him
Pitta to BAL. I wonder if Reid would have grabbed him is he were still there.
with three of the next ten picks you can literally do anything you want
this is great
I want Dwyer, a QB project, and another guy on Defense. Maybe a DT.
Eagles should be able to use one of their 4ths to grab someone who a team is looking to trade if they have interest.
gimme just one of these guys
cox
sapp
jones
dickerson
watson
hardy
Damn. There goes Thad Gibson. Would have liked him.
i hope the cowboys dont take hardy
Dallas trades w/ Miami ..... Dolphins take Edds
barring any trades, i think its pretty cool there are gonna be 3 new guys on the squad in a matter of 15 minutes
miami has to take hardy right
nope
Ha - Edds to Miami.
Nice job, fellas. It's not like you could use a guy like him on the squad.
iceholes.
OMG,GET JOHN CONNER
ok this is where the eagles have to stop being the eagles for a moment and take a hardy
and grab my boy dekoda while youre at it
Atkins to Cincy. woo...3 of the next 5 picks
Not a big fan of Hardy. Would love to see Watson, Cox, or a DT.
they farging showed 1999 again
farging iceholes
They're actually showing the McNabb booing. Awesome.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 11:20:45 AM
they farging showed 1999 again
farging iceholes
So glad I didn't even bother turning it on today.
Keenan Clayton, OLB Oklahoma
Keenan Clayton
Keenan Clayton?????
why shouldn't carl lewis announce that?
keenan
oooooowweeeeeeeeeeeeee, whats up with that, whats up with that
Dude is tiny. 6'1" and 225.
Jaws is pimping the Eagles' being competitive again.
i want Dorin Dickerson
Kafka
QB Kafka
damn, didnt see that one
Hey they got who I asked for.
Kafka. Nice pick. That was their luxury pick.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on April 24, 2010, 10:55:59 AM
Not really sure why the Eagles haven't used any of their picks to move back up in this round.
I'd like them to grab Pike/Kafka soon.
I'm so smrt.
I can't believe that I'm watching the draft in 2010 and I'm watching that dick in the shoulderpads booing McNabb.
the only benefit would be if he finally killed himself (the shoulderpad douche)
Everyone involved should kill themselves. Even production assistants for ESPN.
well, yeah
I'm thinking they go Dwyer here. If not, it's going to be defense defense defense for the rest of the draft.
With all these defensive picks, makes me think the Eagles are pretty satisfied with the offense. No offensive linemen?
Everyone but Jenn Brown.
She stays.
i think its now safe to say today is not going well for the eagles
eagles picked up Clay Harbor, i love vacationing there
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2010, 10:50:04 PM
holy shtein great post romey....so farging jerkoffable...i feel like a lot of fans thing the eagles have a lot of picks but they are all 6th or 7th round...but bust out the telestrater and draw a line below the 4th round on that chart and then soil your bathing suit area
4th is over for the Eagles now...
Brandon Graham
Nathaniel Allen
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
Trevard Lindley
Keenan Clayton
Mike Kafka
Clay Harbor
Still jerkoffable?
embarrassing is the word that comes to the forefront
I had hopes that the fourth round would buoy my thoughts on this draft. I was wrong. Not a single type of risky massive upside pick anywhere. Where is the immediate impact that will improve this team come from from any of these picks? Graham better be DE Jesus.
Howie Roseman just established him self as one of the premier young gm geniuses in the nfl with this draft.
Id be shocked if every media outlet doesnt post-rate the Eagles draft an A or better. Great job Roseman...thank you. Look forward to next year!
LOL
Bob Woodruff repeated the name when no one reacted, almost like "maybe you didn't hear me, I said JASON FOX!"
Don't you make fun of bulletbroof Bob Woodruff!
he did lose half a brain lobe in iraq
wingo, jaws, and mcshay are so much better of a panel than gruden, young, jackson, and berman
What happened to Dwyer that he sunk so far? Won't go in the first 4 rounds and he isn't mentioned in the top 10 available for anyone...
edit: forgot he was picked by sf
so i take it the eagles have no plans of addressing the o-line. nice to see they're looking to protect their young, inexperienced qb.
on a related note, i saw on the espn ticker that the jets are likely to release faneca since they drafted ducasse. get.
totally forgot about throat johnson...is he gonna be drafted?
he should be thankful...his voice is so bad ass now
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 24, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
so i take it the eagles have no plans of addressing the o-line. nice to see they're looking to protect their young, inexperienced qb.
on a related note, i saw on the espn ticker that the jets are likely to release faneca since they drafted ducasse. get.
the defense was so bad you had to concentrate on that...unfortunately it doesnt look like they have dont that very well either
also much higher chance to get a lineman late or even undrafted and develop them than a defensive player...especially with juan
lol ESPN injury analyst Stephana Bell
what the farg
After the Allen pick things got really weird for this draft. I hope to god they know what they are doing
(http://media.philly.com/images/042310_GONZO23_400.jpg)
howie's horn told him what to do
dont blame him
ps i love this picture and im gonna use it a lot
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 11:53:01 AM
What happened to Dwyer that he sunk so far? Won't go in the first 4 rounds and he isn't mentioned in the top 10 available for anyone...
I read a few weeks ago that a lot of scouts were concerned about the offense they ran and that he was more of a product of that.
Quote from: mussa on April 24, 2010, 11:59:07 AM
I hope to god they know what they are doing
Relax, the lawyer and accountant have it covered.
hes got a third horn growing out of his forehead...hes super jew
still available:
Dwyer
Anthony Dixon
Stafon Johnson (the throat guy)
Charles Scott
Dickerson
Dezmon Briscoe
Riley Cooper
Jeremy Williams
Danario Alexander
Selvish Capers
Ciron Black
Sam Young
Ed Wang
Hardy
George Selvie
Cam Thomas
Arthur Jones
Ricky Sapp
Dekoda Watson
Donovan Warren
Perrish Cox
Syd'Quan Thompson
Dominique Franks
Kam Chancellor
Reshad Jones
Myron Rolle
lol just post the rest of the draft easy
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 24, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
so i take it the eagles have no plans of addressing the o-line. nice to see they're looking to protect their young, inexperienced qb.
on a related note, i saw on the espn ticker that the jets are likely to release faneca since they drafted ducasse. get.
the defense was so bad you had to concentrate on that...unfortunately it doesnt look like they have dont that very well either
also much higher chance to get a lineman late or even undrafted and develop them than a defensive player...especially with juan
i don't disagree that the defense was top priority, and yeah they totally screwed the pooch on that. but i think oline was definitely a bigger need than back up qb. they've given the keys to the offense to kolb and they basically have a 1 yr window to decide whether he stays or goes so it would make sense to draft someone who can play in front of him rather than behind him.
yes please
(http://sportsromes.com/files/2009/08/dekoda_watson21.jpg)
That is a lot of "name" guys.
I'm all for giving these guys a shot but as of right now I'd give this draft a C- and possibly a D. I hate that the Eagles think smallish tweener guys on D is the way to go. Somewhere Buddy Ryan weeps.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:02:56 PM
yes please
(http://sportsromes.com/files/2009/08/dekoda_watson21.jpg)
this obsession you have looking for draftees/players with their shirts off is extremely odd.
do you think because youre built you have a higher success rate in the nfl? Just say yes and Ill understand.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:00:08 PM
hes got a third horn growing out of his forehead...hes super jew
at this point he is worse than banner, which is an accomplishment in and of itself
Sapp!
Sapp from Clemson
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: reese125 on April 24, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:02:56 PM
yes please
(http://sportsromes.com/files/2009/08/dekoda_watson21.jpg)
this obsession you have looking for draftees/players with their shirts off is extremely odd.
do you think because youre built you have a higher success rate in the nfl? Just say yes and Ill understand.
it's a known fact that players who take their shirts off are far superior athletes compared to those who don't. need proof? check out dude in the background. he be tired.
I still prefer this athletic freak:
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/HCHECFOAKMOD/jeangilles_cmb470_060430.jpg)
you either understand the look test or you dont....you guys clearly dont...im not going to explain it because theres numerous factors that you cant put a finger on which determine a look test pass/fail
any black guy that smiles = FAIL
I never realized there was a science behind the look test
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 12:11:02 PM
any black guy that smiles = FAIL
couldnt be more off
its like porn...you cant define it but you know it when you see it
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
I never realized there was a science behind the look test
there really isnt
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
I never realized there was a science behind the look test
Science and lots of fingering.
its not a look test, its igy's look test. its what he think is good or not. your dont think for yourself, you think as him.
how is this not clear.
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 12:12:25 PM
its not a look test, its igy's look test. its what he think is good or not. your dont think for yourself, you think as him.
how is this not clear.
the look test is the look test
i have nothing to do with it...other than i nail it everytime...but im far from the only person that can identify a look test pass
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 12:12:25 PM
its not a look test, its igy's look test. its what he think is good or not. your dont think for yourself, you think as him.
how is this not clear.
Could somebody translate this for me?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 12:11:02 PM
any black guy that smiles = FAIL
couldnt be more off
really?
(http://pwtorch.com/artman2/uploads/1/mcnabb.jpg) (http://david.rosenblatt.angelfire.com/bunkley.jpg)
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
Could somebody translate this for me?
here
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 12:12:25 PM
its not a look test, its igy's look test. its what he think is good or not. your dont think for yourself, you think as him.
how is this not clear.
because unlike you, the rest of us don't spend a single second wondering wwit
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 12:12:25 PM
its not a look test, its igy's look test. its what he think is good or not. your dont think for yourself, you think as him.
how is this not clear.
Could somebody translate this for me?
Yap yap yap grrr Munson yap yap IGY yap grr Reese.
The lil fella hit the nail on the head. Seems like AR is taking the Jimmy Johnson approach of drafting a bunch of guys at the same position in order to find at least one.
Westbrook visiting St. Louis, poor guy.
mcnabb fails look test cause he looks like a muppet not because he smiles
solid jaw-line, thick neck, cut pecs and a six pack... instant success. cant believe football players are built.
seattle is making moves this draft. traded for lendale white and now leon washington. they've made some good value picks too.
lol ed wang just got picked
If anything this draft has produced some of the best posts this board has seen in along time, lmao :-D
Birds trade?
Eagles traded 146 to the Chargers
Raiders are doing things right...they're about to trade for Jason Campbell and give themselves a decent QB.
146 is now on its 5th team
Eagles get #159 and the Chargers 2011 5th
If the Eagles were going 3-4, that probably would have been a guy to pick up for the DT stpot.
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
Eagles traded 146 to the Chargers
They get 159 and a 5th rounder next year. So they already have 3 extra picks for next year. Agree on the Raiders Phreak.
andy must really hate the OL in this draft
Andy plans to suit up and block some fargers.
sounds like the Raiders are going to trade for Jason Campbell
Steelers just traded to get Ryan McFadden back from the Cardinals.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
sounds like the Raiders are going to trade for Jason Campbell
That means Jemarcus Russell is available, possible NT in the Eagles new 3-4.
haha
an O lineman has to be coming here no?
how about selfish capers...i dont believe he has been picked
definitely another DE is on the way
I thought the Chargers picked him with the pick the Eagles traded them
On the Clock
is maurkice pouncey still available?
espn loving the eagles draft....then again they slurp andy every year
jaws: jamaal jackson is an incredible center
What else do you expect from that retarded polack?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
espn loving the eagles draft....then again they slurp andy every year
I really like what they have done today minus the LB pick.
Washington got a 2012 #4 for Campbell
If there is one thing I have unwavering trust for the Eagles its the offensive line.
I take today as them saying they really like what they have. Good enough for me.
WOW...Matt Millen forced to apologize for his Polish comment at Jaws
why is millen apologizing? what did he say?
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 01:33:42 PM
WOW...Matt Millen forced to apologize for his Polish comment at Jaws
that was ridiculous
Earlier in the broadcast Millen made a comment to Jaws about fried bologna and pierogies and pollocks
hahahahahahahahahaha!
that might be the funniest thing i've ever seen in my entire life.
completely pathetic on espn's part.
yet he still hasnt apologized to detroit for driving the lions into the ground. interesting.
why is it pathetic....thats a sensitive thing to a lot of people who are polish...i thought it was great that they did it...especially considering they/he didnt have to
kudos especially to millen...you could tell it was a heartfelt spur of the moment explanantion
farging pc police at it again
Reid on NFLN right now.
steelers coach denzel washington on espn now
he was great in training day
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 24, 2010, 01:44:37 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 24, 2010, 01:40:01 PM
Reid on NFLN right now.
farg you cablevision.
haha...you sound like my cousin...he hates cable vision more than maybe anything in the world...i never ever see him where he isnt bitching about it
and he cant get direct tv cause his HOA wont allow it which makes him even more irate
Nice shot of LeGarret Blount sleeping...
surrounded by the white girls
Greg Hardy finally goes to Carolina
definitely should have taken a guy named riley over carlton mitchell
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
steelers coach denzel washington on espn now
he was great in training day
he looks exactly like omar epps you farging white moron
can you pasty people be any worse? god damn teamster.
Buffalo passes on a QB for the 6th time. Probably gonna tank for Mallett next year
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
steelers coach denzel washington on espn now
he was great in training day
he looks exactly like omar epps you farging white moron
can you pasty people be any worse? god damn teamster.
haha
even the House writers noticed it and referenced it in an episode
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
Buffalo passes on a QB for the 6th time. Probably gonna tank for Mallett next year
you mean jake locker
Could be either or.
The Bears got the fever for LeFevour.
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
steelers coach denzel washington on espn now
he was great in training day
he looks exactly like omar epps you farging white moron
can you pasty people be any worse? god damn teamster.
hey jew, i know you think you're one with black people because you let them rob you twice a week at Temple. but you're just a suburban jew farg who is scared shteinless in Brownsville
1. never robbed
2. not scared, just clearly out of place
3. black ladies love me
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 02:06:33 PM
Could be either or.
locker would have to have a really bad year not to be the first pick...mallett might not even be the second or third qb
you certainly arent tanking a season to get ryan mallett
Yeah well Jevan Snead was going to be a top 10 pick before this past season. I think it will be Locker should he continue to develop with Sarkisian. Mallet has all the tools though and could easily sky rocket.
im just saying if in april 2009 jevon snead was projected to be the top pick in the draft then youd say a certain team was gonna try and get him next year
right now that guy is clearly locker
fair enough
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
why is it pathetic....thats a sensitive thing to a lot of people who are polish...i thought it was great that they did it...especially considering they/he didnt have to
kudos especially to millen...you could tell it was a heartfelt spur of the moment explanantion
i won't even get into why this post's irony quotient is off the charts.
i'll just say you're completely full of shtein and move on about my day...
Eagles take the LSU RB Charles Scott
i always thought myron was related to samari and antrell.
theres everyones big back
I think that is another solid pick, probably would have went higher if it wasn't for the busted collarbone.
TWO FIRST NAMES!
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
theres everyones big back
Fifth draft pick this year that won't see the field?
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 03:04:24 PM
TWO FIRST NAMES!
Exactly... and that's the key thing.
His jersey will be mine.
He could be the Antichrist...birthday is 08.08.88.
How surprising is it that they haven't drafted an olineman?
2:1 they take the sister F'er
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 03:12:23 PM
How surprising is it that they haven't drafted an olineman?
i cant believe they didnt draft an interior lineman that could possibly step right in and play center...like i said before i just dont think andy was impressed with the OL field in this draft
But they were impressed with another Gocong.
Carolina just took Tony Pike I suppose in case Claussen ends up being a bust.
They also got Armanti Edwards yesterday, but they might use him more on ST and receiving
Quote from: General_Failure on April 24, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
But they were impressed with another Gocong.
i dont like the soweegian pick at all but its not even close to a gocong situation
smarty mcscholar from yardley was picked by the Titans
great pick for the titans.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 03:12:23 PM
How surprising is it that they haven't drafted an olineman?
i cant believe they didnt draft an interior lineman that could possibly step right in and play center...like i said before i just dont think andy was impressed with the OL field in this draft
Supposedly they are pretty high on Mike McGlynn at center.
Russ Grimm's kid was drafted by Tampa Bay
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 03:12:23 PM
How surprising is it that they haven't drafted an olineman?
i cant believe they didnt draft an interior lineman that could possibly step right in and play center...like i said before i just dont think andy was impressed with the OL field in this draft
Supposedly they are pretty high on Mike McGlynn at center.
lets hope they are right but im not sure whats going to change btwn the two dallas games and opening day that all of a sudden makes him a player...if he was that good why didnt he play against the cowboys instead of nik cole who was getting destroyed in both games
speaking of bloodlines, id like to see the birds take bruce matthews kid at 243.
They were talking about Reid earlier saying how he believes he can develop young lineman that weren't picked highly or not at all.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 24, 2010, 03:35:48 PM
They were talking about Reid earlier saying how he believes he can develop young lineman that weren't picked highly or not at all.
Or sign them from the Bills for hilarious contracts.
wow mickey shuler got drafted and dorin dickerson hasnt
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
wow mickey shuler got drafted and dorin dickerson hasnt
Shuler had some really good predraft workouts and Dickerson doesn't really have position. He is like a Garret Mills.
he has the same position as hernandez and is almost as skilled
shuler straight up blows...as do most people at this point in the draft
eagles traded up and they couldnt have used this years sevens
interesting
Kiper was saying Dickerson was only 6'1"
6th rounder next year for 220
LOL - Another linebacker.
loving the rutgers chants
coming up on the two compensatory picks.........here's some players that are still left:
QB = Jarrett Brown, Jevan Snead, Zac Robinson, Daryll Clark, Sean Canfield
RB = LeGarrette Blount, Chris Brown, Javarris James (Edge's cuz), Stafon Johnson
WR = Jeremy Williams, Brandon Banks, Danario Alexander, Verran Tucker, Shay Hodge
TE = Colin Peek
OT = Adam Ulatoski, Tony Washington, Ciron Black, Kevin Haslam
OG = Brandon Carter, Sergio Render
C = Clint Gresham
DE = Brandon Lang, Doug Worthington
DT = Vince Oghobaase, Brandon Deaderick
LB = Kion Wilson, Micah Johnson, Reggie Carter
CB = Donovan Warren, Devin Ross, Brian Jackson, Chris Chancellor, A.J. Wallace
S = Harry Coleman, Kurt Coleman
Wingo just listed the Eagles (sort of offhandedly) as one of the "Big winners" of the draft, saying how they (paraphrasing) "always draft well."
That made me chuckle after reading this thread for three days.
everybody in the national media always sucks off donovan and andy....its been happening for at least 8-9 years
i think its time to add some depth to the de position
I don't know that the Eagles draft that well at least not any better than anybody else.
Jeff Owens, Georgia DT
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 04:38:54 PM
everybody in the national media always sucks off donovan and andy....its been happening for at least 8-9 years
A lot of the media guys also just give good grades to whatever teams make the most picks.
Draft grades have no impact on reality though so who gives a shtein.
1 QB
1 RB
1 WR
1 TE
3 DE
1 DT
1 ILB
1 OLB
1 CB
1 SS
1 FS
no OL
and I'm already seeing jokes about Reid taking a "Te'o" and an "Owens"....
Mr. Irrelevant:
(http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics22/400/VS/VSEMXEYOBRULFLR.20090902194205.JPG)
:-D
ha
why do they keep saying the eagles took two te's...thats like the 5th time in the last hour or so
Jevan Snead and Donovan Warren made super smrt decisions to leave school early
Quote from: Rome on April 24, 2010, 05:17:49 PM
Mr. Irrelevant:
(http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics22/400/VS/VSEMXEYOBRULFLR.20090902194205.JPG)
:-D
Looks like Lance Armstrong put on a dread wig. :-D
I swear I remember reading some mocks back in july and august of last year that had Snead going #1 overall in the draft.
McShay said he was a top 5 pick and Kiper had him in the top 15. Snead had a disastrous season and he would have had a worse one in 2011 with McCluster & Hodge both leaving for the NFL.
He had no choice but to take his chances this weekend.
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:30:08 PM
I swear I remember reading some mocks back in july and august of last year that had Snead going #1 overall in the draft.
Seabiscut and I heard that as well but than again it was after a night of sniffing glue and spray paint.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2010, 05:20:19 PM
ha
why do they keep saying the eagles took two te's...thats like the 5th time in the last hour or so
What's up with that? I heard that as well. Must be draft lag.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 05:24:14 PM
Jevan Snead and Donovan Warren made super smrt decisions to leave school early
I am surprised no one took Warren. Snead showed nothing this past season to show he was a possible NFL QB.
Warren had a 1st-to-3rd round rating when he declared and is the only UDFA on NFL.com's list that has a rating of 7+
According to his Twitter, he signed with the Jets
Quote from: King Cole on April 24, 2010, 05:30:08 PM
I swear I remember reading some mocks back in july and august of last year that had Snead going #1 overall in the draft.
all kidding aside, good point. What the hell happened to him? He was highly rated before the season.
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
Warren had a 1st-to-3rd round rating when he declared and is the only UDFA on NFL.com's list that has a rating of 7+
According to his Twitter, he signed with the Jets
He must not want to make an NFL roster aren't they pretty well stacked at corner at this point. Any word on guys the Eagles are interested in Ed?
Haven't seen anything about UDFAs yet. Here's the best guys available according to NFL.com's rankings:
Brandon Lang (Troy DE) = 6.4
Adam Ulatoski (Texas OT) = 5.9
Jarrett Brown (West Virginia QB) = 5.8
Tony Washington (Abilene Christian OT) = 5.6
Jeremy Williams (Tulane WR) = 5.0
Harry Coleman (LSU LB/SS) = 5.0
Lindsey Witten (Connecticut DE) = 5.0
Vince Oghobaase (Duke DT) = 5.0
Jevan Snead (Ole Miss QB) = 4.7
LeGarrette Blount (Oregon RB) = 4.7
Brandon Banks (Kansas State WR) = 4.6
Rashawn Jackson (Virginia RB) = 4.6
Seyi Ajirotutu (Fresno State WR) = 4.5
Chris Brown (Oklahoma RB) = 4.4
Barry Church (Toledo SS) = 4.3
Rahim Alem (LSU DE) = 4.2
Devin Ross (Arizona CB) = 4.2
Justin Cole (San Jose State LB) = 4.2
Danario Alexander (Missouri WR) = 4.1
Aleric Mullins (North Carolina DT) = 4.1
Ciron Black (LSU OT) = 4.0
Javarris James (Miami RB) = 4.0
Colin Peek (Alabama TE) = 3.9
Verran Tucker (California WR) = 3.9
Kevin Basped (Nevada DE) = 3.9
Malcolm Sheppard (Arkansas DT) = 3.9
Mike McLaughlin (Boston College LB) = 3.8
Shay Hodge (Ole Miss WR) = 3.7
Keiland Williams (LSU RB) = 3.7
Brandon Carter (Texas Tech OG) = 3.6
Chris McGaha (Arizona State WR) = 3.6
Joique Bell (Wayne State RB) = 3.6
David Pender (Purdue CB) = 3.5
Kion Wilson (South Florida LB) = 3.4
Dace Richardson (Iowa OG) = 3.4
Micah Johnson (Kentucky LB) = 3.3
Blair White (Michigan State WR) = 3.3
Andre Dixon (Connecticut RB) = 3.3
Brian Jackson (Oklahoma CB) = 3.2
Riar Geer (Colorado TE) = 3.2
Alric Arnett (West Virginia WR) = 3.1
Dennis Rogan (Tennessee FS) = 3.1
Justin Woodall (Alabama SS) = 3.1
Brett Swenson (Michigan State K) = 3.1
Manase Tonga (BYU RB) = 3.1
Stafon Johnson (USC RB) = 2.9
plus there's the really crappy guys like Daryll Clark
(http://otr.blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/brandonlang.jpg)
It looks like the Eagles used the 3rd and 4th rounds for their personal board reaches, then went to get the widely regarded dropping players after that. Very odd strategy, but I like guys like Sapp and Scott to make an impact as much as or more than Te'O and the undersized Oklahoma linebacker (it doesn't matter what his name is).
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 24, 2010, 06:19:34 PM
Haven't seen anything about UDFAs yet. Here's the best guys available according to NFL.com's rankings:
Brandon Lang (Troy DE) = 6.4(wonder if he could help me with a few picks)
Adam Ulatoski (Texas OT) = 5.9
Jarrett Brown (West Virginia QB) = 5.8
Tony Washington (Abilene Christian OT) = 5.6(sign him, make sure he doesnt bring his sister)
Jeremy Williams (Tulane WR) = 5.0
Harry Coleman (LSU LB/SS) = 5.0
Lindsey Witten (Connecticut DE) = 5.0(Chick Name)
Vince Oghobaase (Duke DT) = 5.0
Jevan Snead (Ole Miss QB) = 4.7(great thing he left Texas)
LeGarrette Blount (Oregon RB) = 4.7(i wouldnt mind letting him on the PS, just dont piss him off)
Brandon Banks (Kansas State WR) = 4.6
Rashawn Jackson (Virginia RB) = 4.6
Seyi Ajirotutu (Fresno State WR) = 4.5(awesome name, sign him)
Chris Brown (Oklahoma RB) = 4.4(see LeGarrette, ask Rhianna)
Barry Church (Toledo SS) = 4.3(Church in the name, guaranteed eagle)
Rahim Alem (LSU DE) = 4.2
Devin Ross (Arizona CB) = 4.2
Justin Cole (San Jose State LB) = 4.2
Danario Alexander (Missouri WR) = 4.1(this guy was a beast as a freshman i thought? Must have fallen off)
Aleric Mullins (North Carolina DT) = 4.1
Ciron Black (LSU OT) = 4.0
Javarris James (Miami RB) = 4.0(didnt have half the talent of his cousin)
Colin Peek (Alabama TE) = 3.9
Verran Tucker (California WR) = 3.9
Kevin Basped (Nevada DE) = 3.9
Malcolm Sheppard (Arkansas DT) = 3.9
Mike McLaughlin (Boston College LB) = 3.8
Shay Hodge (Ole Miss WR) = 3.7(Shay Laren is better)
Keiland Williams (LSU RB) = 3.7
Brandon Carter (Texas Tech OG) = 3.6
Chris McGaha (Arizona State WR) = 3.6
Joique Bell (Wayne State RB) = 3.6
David Pender (Purdue CB) = 3.5
Kion Wilson (South Florida LB) = 3.4
Dace Richardson (Iowa OG) = 3.4
Micah Johnson (Kentucky LB) = 3.3
Blair White (Michigan State WR) = 3.3
Andre Dixon (Connecticut RB) = 3.3(CT Sucks)
Brian Jackson (Oklahoma CB) = 3.2
Riar Geer (Colorado TE) = 3.2
Alric Arnett (West Virginia WR) = 3.1
Dennis Rogan (Tennessee FS) = 3.1
Justin Woodall (Alabama SS) = 3.1
Brett Swenson (Michigan State K) = 3.1
Manase Tonga (BYU RB) = 3.1(Guaranteed Roster spot)
Stafon Johnson (USC RB) = 2.9(throaty, poor guy)
plus there's the really crappy guys like Daryll Clark
Snead to TB
The Eagles should def take a flyer on some of those guys.
S.I.Com rated the last six picks of the Eagles draft as future starters and most got 2nd or 3rd round projections.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2010/draft/teams/eagles.html
:-\
5 Eagles UDFAs so far:
DT Charles Alexander (LSU)
WR Blue Cooper (Chattanooga)
WR Kevin Jurovich (San Jose State)
WR Pat Simonds (Colgate)
RB Keith Flemming (West Texas A&M)
=========
Snead to Tampa Bay
Blount and Jarrett Brown to San Francisco
Ulatoski to Houston
Stafon Johnson to Tennessee
Jeremy Williams and Brandon Lang to San Diego
Brandon Minor to Chicago
Javarris James and Blair White to Indianapolis
AJ Wallace and Vince Oghobaase to Miami
where did my temple peoples go
back to the ghetto
warsaw ghetto?
Quote from: SD on April 24, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
back to the ghetto
lol
MA usually runs this place but this was one of the funniest things ive read here in quite a while
Any word on UFAs yet?
Quote from: rjs246 on April 25, 2010, 07:42:40 AM
Any word on UFAs yet?
Got it (http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/p/2010-nfl-undrafted-free-agents.html)
QuoteEagles
Blue Cooper, WR, Tenn-Chattanooga
Charles Alexander, DT, LSU
Keith Flemming, RB, West Texas A&M
Kevin Jurovich, WR, San Jose State
Chris Zardas, FB, Umass
Pat Simonds, WR, Colgate
Joey Elliott, QB, Purdue
As of 1am or so.
The Niners got LaGarrette Blount. Great talent, no risk. They did a good job this weekend.
Still no OL in udfa
Apparently they're high on Stacey Andrews coming back and making an impact and supposedly Cole has been working on his center technique all offseason. With all their friggen picks the least they could have done was add a vet guy to the mix like Faneca, at the very least he's insurance in case someone's injured.
I am really shocked that they didn't put more into the OL in the off season. They blew at the end of last season.
Nick Cole must be impressing the shtein out of them in the offseason workouts because I can't believe they didn't at least take a legit center in the middle rounds as insurance against him flaming out.
Even when Reid is happy with the OL, he gets a handful of guys to run drills at camp and possibly be the next Nick Cole or Jamaal Jackson, right? Very confusing.
igy must have wrote this
QuoteReid's Final Recap: Mission Accomplished
Head coach Andy Reid lauded Howie Roseman's performance in his draft as the team's general manager.
The plan for the Eagles was to find where the strength in the draft was. That's why the Eagles executed six trades during the three-day affair to load up with a boatload of picks in the middle rounds of the draft. The belief was that the quality of players that could be selected around the fourth round would not be that much different compared to the ones taken in the late second, early third rounds.
"There's some subjective decision-making that takes places and you have to be able to say where these guys are going to go and predict what round they are going to go in, then you can determine the strength of the draft and where you think it's strong," Reid said. "Howie set this up and did a phenomenal job with it."
The Eagles also wanted to re-make the defensive side of the ball. Nine of the 13 players selected in this year's draft are here to help coordinator Sean McDermott fortify an aging defense. And if there are two things that the defensive players seem to all have in common, it's speed and a love for the game.
"We've added speed all across the defense, speed and quickness, and that heart - even though they're not the biggest guys, they've all got big hearts, and they can move," Reid said. "At the college level, they got to the football, which can be important both in the pass game and the run game."
And it's evident that Reid and Roseman wanted to add more speed up front. The Eagles drafted three defensive ends in the first five rounds. The Eagles traded up for Brandon Graham in the first round, took Daniel Te'o-Nesheim in the third round and Ricky Sapp in the fifth round.
"In the National Football League you have to be able to put pressure on the quarterback; you put pressure on the quarterback it makes everybody better," Reid said. "It makes the secondary better, it makes the linebackers better and that really makes the offense better. They get the ball back and can score a little bit more. So, we went out and brought in some guys we felt can rush the passer."
That reasoning is why despite trading away starting cornerback Sheldon Brown prior to the draft the Eagles did not use a draft pick on the position until the fourth round with Trevard Lindley. In addition to current starters Asante Samuel and Ellis Hobbs and nickel corner Joselio Hanson, Marlin Jackson, Macho Harris and second-round pick Nate Allen all have the flexibility to play safety and cornerback.
Now, the work begins to cultivate the talent and assimilate it into the scheme. Time will tell if this draft replenished and fortified the defense for the present and the future.
"I look at things that you put players in positions and they go make plays, whether young guys or older guys and we go," Reid said. "We have a good nucleus of defensive players and we know that, but somewhere you have to bring in younger players to replace other guys that were possibly older and moved on and we think we've done that."
-- Posted by Chris McPherson, 12:30 a.m., April 24
the rest of the league drafted guys that have no heart and hate the game
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
the rest of the league drafted guys that have no heart and hate the game
But at least have talent. And will play the position they've been trainedto play all their life.
Hey, let's not get carried away. Except for Sapp, who is definitely somewhat of an in-between guy, they haven't mentioned messing with any of the picks' positions, have they?
You really think they're going to use Gocong lite with his hand on the ground?
That statement was more of a generalization, btw, but still.
Quote from: KDS on April 24, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
where did my temple peoples go
Dominique Harris = Buffalo
Alex Joseph = Green Bay
Steve Maneri = Houston
Andre Neblett = Carolina
Devin Tyler = Arizona
and the Eagles added a couple of OL UDFAs: Zipp Duncan (Kentucky), Jerail McCuller (NC State), Austin Howard (Northern Iowa)
Quote from: MMH on April 25, 2010, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
the rest of the league drafted guys that have no heart and hate the game
But at least have talent. And will play the position they've been trainedto play all their life.
Not really a lot of these guys are going from a 4-3 in college to a 3-4 in the pros.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 22, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
that scene at tebows crib was unbelievable...like an ad in a magazine or a commerical...spotless...tons of pretty young white people in pastel colored shirts...a painted portrait of young tim as child on the wall...pristine indoor plants......amazing
Nazi rally? (http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1249623)
LOL at those idiots trying to politicize a shock jock's comments.
It is a bit ridiculous, if someone were to say Dez Bryant's draft party looked like a black panther rally or something of the like the nation would be up in arms. So it is somewhat of a double standard.
On a side not how unsurprising is it that he has a brother named Robby?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2010, 03:58:16 PM
It is a bit ridiculous, if someone were to say Dez Bryant's draft party looked like a black panther rally or something of the like the nation would be up in arms. So it is somewhat of a double standard.
It is, there's no denying it. These are the kinds of things that are perfectly fine for some drunken goober to say, but not radio or television personalities. I'm in the minority on this anyway, since I think all talk radio is a waste of time.
didnt see this posted anywhere, so heres the official undrafted free agent list
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html)
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2010, 07:19:47 PM
didnt see this posted anywhere, so heres the official undrafted free agent list
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html)
Blue Cooper: name test fail, skin color fail, youtube fail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtQoyIlTOb8)
I think I hate him more than I do Rob Grankowski or Tebow because of that. WTF?
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 26, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2010, 07:19:47 PM
didnt see this posted anywhere, so heres the official undrafted free agent list
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html)
Blue Cooper: name test fail, skin color fail, youtube fail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtQoyIlTOb8)
You're my boy BLUE
Little Boy Blue... he needed the money, d'oh!
I couldn't watch even 30 seconds of that, how awful.
Exhibit a billionteenth that humans are a cancer on the earth.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 26, 2010, 08:31:38 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 26, 2010, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2010, 07:19:47 PM
didnt see this posted anywhere, so heres the official undrafted free agent list
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Eagles_sign_11_undrafted_rookies.html)
Blue Cooper: name test fail, skin color fail, youtube fail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtQoyIlTOb8)
You're my boy BLUE
One down several more to go. Better get crackin' Blue, Andy and the Mormons won't put up just that one.
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QuoteOne name that wasn't on the list of undrafted free agents the Eagles sent out yesterday is Arizona cornerback Devin Ross. But according to the Arizona Daily Star, he signed with the Eagles on Monday and hopes to make the roster on special teams.
"The Eagles got a hell of a player," said his agent, Harold Lewis. "There's a reason why he was the best player in the state of California when he came out of high school. There's a reason he was a starting corner with the Arizona Wildcats, and why he led the team in tackles (in 2009). And there's a reason why the Eagles and other teams wanted him bad."
Lewis also represents current Eagles Leonard Weaver and Ellis Hobbs.
FYI
his agent thinks he's good? nice.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2010, 11:52:46 AM
QuoteOne name that wasn't on the list of undrafted free agents the Eagles sent out yesterday is Arizona cornerback Devin Ross. But according to the Arizona Daily Star, he signed with the Eagles on Monday and hopes to make the roster on special teams.
"The Eagles got a hell of a player," said his agent, Harold Lewis. "There's a reason why he was the best player in the state of California when he came out of high school. There's a reason he was a starting corner with the Arizona Wildcats, and why he led the team in tackles (in 2009). And there's a reason why the Eagles and other teams wanted him bad."
Lewis also represents current Eagles Leonard Weaver and Ellis Hobbs.
FYI
They wanted him so bad, in fact, that they were terrified to draft him.
He is not on their official list of UDFA's, for whatever reason.
EDIT: He is now.
QuoteEagles Claim Murphy; Add More RFAs
The Philadelphia Eagles today announced they have agreed to terms with the following three rookie free agents:
RB Keithon Flemming (5-10, 208) West Texas A&M
DE Eric Moncur (6-1, 237) Miami, FL
CB Devin Ross (5-10, 183) Arizona
Despite being sidelined for the first six games of the 2009 season due to a dislocated elbow, Flemming, a Mesquite, TX native, scored a team-high 16 TDs and averaged 134 all-purpose yards per game. He earned LSC South co-offensive back of the year honors. Over his career, he accounted for 4,008 all-purpose yards, including 12 100-yard rushing performances. He concluded his career sixth on the West Texas A&M career rushing chart, fifth on the receptions list and is second on the career scoring charts.
Moncur registered 110 tackles and eleven sacks in his career at Miami, posting a career-high and ranking second on the team with six sacks in 2007. He attended Carol City High School in Miami, FL, where he racked up 34 sacks in his final two seasons and earned SuperPrep All-America honors.
Ross garnered All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention accolades as a senior in 2009 after recording 74 tackles, one interception and 11 pass deflections. He was a second-team All-Pac 10 selection as a junior in 2008 after recording a career-high three interceptions, including one returned for a touchdown. Ross earned first-team all-league as a senior defensive back at Rancho Cucamonga HS in Ontario, CA.
In addition, the Eagles claimed G Shawn Murphy off waivers from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The 27-year-old Murphy was a 4th round draft choice of the Miami Dolphins in 2008. The 6-4, 315-pound lineman was claimed off waivers by the Buccaneers on October 21, 2009 after being released by Miami. Murphy, a native of Highland, Utah, was a two-year starter at Utah State. He is son of former Braves and Phillies All-Star outfielder Dale Murphy.
I didn't know Dale Murphy was Mormon.
you knew Andy couldn't get through April without picking up a mormon player
and yeah, that's why Dale has like 12 kids
The Eagles signed a Murphy! Sweet!
:paranoid
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer
Saw this today, VORP!
Its a breakdown via beane #'s to project players from the draft sackwise. JPP projects to 3.5 sacks over 5 years. Graham 22.5, Te'O is listed as a sleeper. I'm not sure why vertical should affect a DE postion.
I love shtein like that. And I would really love seeing JPP turn into an absolute flop.
yeah, so long as you dont discount the GRIT factor, its a cool look at historical flops. LOL Mcdougle, they may or may not have predicted him getting shot
supposedly the DT from LSU (Alexander) failed his physical
Well CROSS him OFF then.
Murphy failed too
bringing back Josh Parry is next on their list :P
I'm still convinced that Trevor Laws is MURP with blackface painted on.
Kean NT Darryl Jackson (projected 6th/7th-rder) is the new DT in camp replacing Alexander
Pretty good article on the guy. He doesn't have much in his way to earn a roster spot.
http://www.nj.com/sports/njsports/index.ssf/2010/03/kean_u_nose_tackle_darryl_jack.html
wait hes only in mini camp because someone failed a physical but hes a lock to make the team?
LOCK
I wasn't pimping the kid. What I am saying the Eagles have dick at defensive tackle, so it wouldn't be a shock to see him stick.
id be sorta surprised if he makes it to lehigh...ill be stunned if he makes the team
I like the deal with Dallas to move down 4 spots and pick up a 4th, but if the Jags were offering a similar deal why not trade with them instead of helping a division rival?
QuoteEagles turned down trade with Jags to do a round two deal with Dallas
Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2010 11:01 PM ETAs the 2010 NFL Draft continues to fade into the rear-view mirror, interesting nuggets continue to percolate.
In round two, for example, the Eagles did another trade within the division, sending the 23rd pick in round two to the Cowboys, who used the selection to take Penn State linebacker Sean Lee. (Philly slid down four spots and picked up a fourth-round selection from the Cowboys.)
According to Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News, the Jags also were interested in doing a deal with the Eagles in order to draft Lee, but the Eagles declined.
"They chose to go in a different direction,''' Jaguars G.M. Gene Smith said regarding the Eagles. "We obviously liked him [Lee]. We started to talk to every team we thought we could match up working a trade.''
Smith added that he was surprised by Philly's decision to do a deal with a division rival. But Smith shouldn't have been. Earlier this month, the Eagles sent franchise quarterback Donovan McNabb to the taterskins. Three years ago, the Eagles did another deal with Dallas, dropping from the 26th overall selection to pick No. 36.
The Cowboys landed linebacker Anthony Spencer. The Eagles took Kevin Kolb.
We've got a feeling that the Eagles like these intra-division trades.
Where does it say it was a similar deal?
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on May 01, 2010, 10:13:16 PM
Where does it say it was a similar deal?
It's right there.......between the lines.