Can we cover Plaxico, and think about stopping the run? Will Garthia's hot body make it thru the first half upright? Do the Iggs run the ball more than 10 times? Discuss my little rays of sunshine... ::)
It all hinges on the defense. I'm comfortable enough with Garcia in there managing the game. He hasn't made any stupid mistakes (yet). As long as he can do that and the defense can keep the score modest we might be able to pull something off.
However I have zero confidence in the run D and I expect Tiki and Jacobs to have their best days yet.
Why haven't we activated LaJuan Ramsey? He's huge. Where is Kenyotta Marshall? Tiki would run into those huge fat asses and bounce 5 yards back.
This is really the make or break game for the playoffs. Right now, you have to figure on the Cowboys winning next week. So the birds have to win Sunday to make the Atlanta game a game to get in.
Keys:
Stopping the run: Obviously this is going to be what decides the game on defense. If the Giants can run the ball, it sets up the rest of their offense and will allow the line to protect Eli. They probably had their best effort against a running back in week 2 when they held Tiki to 51 yards on 21 carries. They have to keep Lewis at the line up scrimmage and take thier chances with the corners being singled up on the wideouts. IF they can control the run, they need to get pressure on Eli on 3rd downs. The Dline has not gotten pressure on a QB in weeks, but the Giants line is awful, so they need to be able to get there with four lineman.
Offensively, they were able to score on the Giants in the first game, of course that was with Donovan. They used the no huddle offense and it was extremely effective. They should be able to use the same game plan and attack the secondary, especially with the injuries the Giants have. Westbrook needs to touch the ball at least 25 times if they are going to score enough to win the game.
this game isnt going to be close....giants will win and win easily
31-13
Ya know Ive been saying all year our D might not be so bad if our offense could stay on the field longer than 1-2 minute drives. Last week we were up, what 21-3 at the half and then AR comes out passing with I don't know how many 3 and outs, instead of running the ball and managing the clock. I know our run defense is pretty bad and has been for years, but being on the feld all game long isn't helping the guys out either.
A prime example is the Indy loss. The great Peyton Manning and his high powered offense went to shtein sunday because of a very good run game and an ass kicking defense. They did it to us, they did it to a few other teams this year too. It's the goddamn blueprint to winning in this league. Look at all the top teams and look at the past super bowl winning teams in history. Very few had a high powered pass game.
The key to winning this game is to go up early and force Eli to make plays late. We have yet to see the Jeff Garcia who is behind and needs to catch up. Tiki and Jacobs are going to have a field day of course, but if we go up early we may be able to force them into throwing. This fits best with our D. If we can get to Eli, he'll make mistakes. Let's hope Trent Cole doesn't kick any nuts sacks late in this game. If all this goes down, we win. If the Giants decide to run all day long, we are toast.
Birds 30 Giants 24
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 10:56:12 AM
this game isnt going to be close....giants will win and win easily
31-13
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I really don't think he's fishing. As I said elsewhere, the Giants have some internal problems, so there is that false glimmer of hope in our hearts, but the truth is that the Giants are a FAR superior team. They should win this game by a mile.
so when i pick the eagles over carolina im a contrarian
when i pick the giants over the eagles im fishing
things that make you go hmmmmm
the eagles got dominated by a putrid taterskins team it just didnt show on the scoreboard....sunday they will get dominated by a much better giant team and it will show on the scoreboard
Quote from: rjs246 on December 12, 2006, 11:07:45 AM
I really don't think he's fishing. As I said elsewhere, the Giants have some internal problems, so there is that false glimmer of hope in our hearts, but the truth is that the Giants are a FAR superior team. They should win this game by a mile.
a far superior team that has found a way to lose 4 out of the last 5 games...going from 6-2 to 7-6 does not say superior in any way.
unfortunately i'm with igy on this one, and no fishing involved. the giants are a better team, i'd like to think we can pull out a W but i am not going to be disappointed if we don't.
Well I'm heading up for the game, so you better not be right IGY.
They WILL score points on the Eagles. The Eagles need to get in the high 20s/low 30s to win this game.
They WILL score points on the Eagles. The Eagles need to get in the high 20s/low 30s to win this game.
this pretty much sums it up...and as well as hes played jeff garcia is not getting in a shootout with anyone
theres gonna be all kinds of tiki in this game setting up all kinds of plax and shockey to run up the score
This game isn't that important in the scheme of things. Simply put, the sixth seed will get in at 8-8. As long as there's a three-way tie for 8-8, we get in. A loss this week and next coupled with a win against Atlanta gets us in. A win would be nice but not essential.
I'd like to think the 'revenge' factor would mean something in this game, but I just don't think it'll matter much. Both defenses are rather pathetic...but ours is worse.
Giants 31
Eagles 27
Quote from: Wingspan on December 12, 2006, 11:13:17 AM
a far superior team that has found a way to lose 4 out of the last 5 games...going from 6-2 to 7-6 does not say superior in any way.
ding.
And they can still lob it to Plaxico whenever they want to, at least in this game.
When I got home from the game on Sunday I sat down later that night and watched it again on my TIVO. They kept showing how the Eagles had lost 3 of their games on last minute plays. That lob to Plaxico over Sheldon was being hammered into my screen OVER and OVER again.
Offensively, I think we can score on them. But defensively... they'll move up and down the field, unless they shoot themselves in the foot.
Tiki's had more than 100 total yards against us for something like 9-10 straight games. That streak damn sure ain't gonna stop this week. He'll probably get 150 on the ground alone. Since stopping Tiki is the key to stopping the Giants... you figure it out.
Eagles - 21
Giants - 31
Quote from: General_Failure on December 12, 2006, 12:05:32 PM
And they can still lob it to Plaxico whenever they want to, at least in this game.
Not anymore.
We have William James!
Wanna win the game?
Sustain offensive drives. Keep the Jints offense off the field.
Keep an eye on what happens with Shaun O'Hara and Kareem McKenzie this week too. Both went out injured against the Panthers. They are already missing Petitgout. Bob "lazy eye" Whitfield is playing LT.
The Giants D is vulnerable.
They can win this game. But it'll take an almost perfect game to do so.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 12, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
Offensively, I think we can score on them. But defensively... they'll move up and down the field, unless they shoot themselves in the foot.
Tiki's had more than 100 total yards against us for something like 9-10 straight games. That streak damn sure ain't gonna stop this week. He'll probably get 150 on the ground alone. Since stopping Tiki is the key to stopping the Giants... you figure it out.
Eagles - 21
Giants - 31
Last game we held Tiki to something like 55 yards on 25 or so carries, someone said it above.
I think Will James is going to be an important factor in this game. He's the tallest Eagles CB and Burress is 6'5. They have to double Burress but when its nickel time James will probably be the guy on him. They have to win those jump balls to Plax that Eli likes to lob up off his back foot.
Phreak said it all, keep the Giants offense off the field. That means long drives by our offense. None of the 3 and out bull-ish. Activate Moats its time for the 3 headed monster Sunday.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 12, 2006, 01:04:59 PM
They can win this game. But it'll take an almost perfect game to do so.
As has been the Eagles M.O. all year... they will be perfect... for a quarter or two. It's the other 2-3 quarters that's got me worried.
Quote from: cmleary0919 on December 12, 2006, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 12, 2006, 12:14:50 PM
Offensively, I think we can score on them. But defensively... they'll move up and down the field, unless they shoot themselves in the foot.
Tiki's had more than 100 total yards against us for something like 9-10 straight games. That streak damn sure ain't gonna stop this week. He'll probably get 150 on the ground alone. Since stopping Tiki is the key to stopping the Giants... you figure it out.
Eagles - 21
Giants - 31
Last game we held Tiki to something like 55 yards on 25 or so carries, someone said it above.
We held him to 51 yards on 19 carries. He also had 57 yards receiving that game. I said 100
TOTAL yards.
Deactivate Mahe and put Moats in at punt returner. Pull out every farging stop. Activate LaJuan Ramsey, too.
yeah! all the stops! start omar jacobs!
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 12, 2006, 01:51:40 PM
Deactivate Mahe and put Moats in at punt returner. Pull out every farging stop. Activate LaJuan Ramsey, too.
I'd like to see Moats. But not as a PR.
Westbrook or Lito = PR.
I'd like see anyone other than Mahe back there.
In order for the Eagles to win this week they have to a) Show up. And b) Hope the Giants don't.
And I don't mean that metaphorically either. I mean it literally. As in hope the Giants aren't at the stadium for kick off.
Jason Short was released today. The roster spot hasn't been filled yet....
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 12, 2006, 02:58:45 PM
Jason Short was released today. The roster spot hasn't been filled yet....
Then it's already being more productive than Jason Short.
So the question is, who are they going to activate? I hope its Moats or Ramsey.
And please can people stop with "the eagles got dominated by the taterskins"....I think everyone is forgetting that the defense did exactly what it always did when it was "good"....give up huge amounts of yards, but don't break and allow them into the endzone, AND make the big plays when they needed to be made. They can give up 450 yards all they want, as long as they hold up inside the 35 and continue to make the big plays like they have the last two weeks (Lito's INT, Lews INT TD, Dawkins sack). That's how this defense has thrived for so long.
And it's an Eagles/Giants game....Dawkins and the rest will be real fired up for this game, especially if the Falcons beat Dallas....so we can hope for the best against the run.
This game could go either way, I think it'll be won by 7 points or less.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 12, 2006, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 12, 2006, 02:58:45 PM
Jason Short was released today. The roster spot hasn't been filled yet....
Then it's already being more productive than Jason Short.
Awsum. :-D
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 03:41:18 PM
So the question is, who are they going to activate? I hope its Moats or Ramsey.
And please can people stop with "the eagles got dominated by the taterskins"....I think everyone is forgetting that the defense did exactly what it always did when it was "good"....give up huge amounts of yards, but don't break and allow them into the endzone,
they were up 21-3 and barely hung on at 21-19, how are you going to say that's ok...especially against a QB in his 5th start?
especially against a QB in his 5th start?
thats the key
if the eagles give up over 200 yards rushing and over 400 total yards best believe eli is putting up a lot more points than jason campbell....jason campbell is the onyl reason they won sunday not because the defense made big plays to keep them oput of the end zone
when youre a flaming homer i guess its easier to reference the eagle defense of 2002 than it is the 2nd half eli had against the eagles in sept 2006
Eli Manning sucks ass, IGY. Stop acting like he's the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas.
Quote from: SunMo on December 12, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 03:41:18 PM
So the question is, who are they going to activate? I hope its Moats or Ramsey.
And please can people stop with "the eagles got dominated by the taterskins"....I think everyone is forgetting that the defense did exactly what it always did when it was "good"....give up huge amounts of yards, but don't break and allow them into the endzone,
they were up 21-3 and barely hung on at 21-19, how are you going to say that's ok...especially against a QB in his 5th start?
1. Because, despite being up 21-3, Andy Reid continued to throw the ball three times in a row for 15 second 3 and out drives, putting the defense on the field for far longer then they should have been.
2. Of those 19 points, only one was a TD. A TD where Sheldon Brown had great coverage but the QB making his 5th start threw a perfect pass. Why ask that question if you're not going to actually read the whole post? When this dfense was considered "good" by I'm sure even the likes of you, that has been thier MO....Give up a ton of yards, be bad against the run, but don't allow them to get into the endzone. Bend but don't break. The problem for most of the year is they havn't been nearly as good at not breaking, and they havn't made any big plays. But over the last two weeks they have stepped it up to stop the opposing teams when it has counted by making the big plays. So,
if they can keep that up, continuing to make the INT's (Lito, Gaither, MLew) and the drive stopping sacks (Dawkins), and keeping opposing teams out of the endzone then I'm okay with them giving up yardage.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 03:58:17 PM
especially against a QB in his 5th start?
thats the key
if the eagles give up over 200 yards rushing and over 400 total yards best believe eli is putting up a lot more points than jason campbell....jason campbell is the onyl reason they won sunday not because the defense made big plays to keep them oput of the end zone
when youre a flaming homer i guess its easier to reference the eagle defense of 2002 than it is the 2nd half eli had against the eagles in sept 2006
Ah yes, Eli Manning, the definition of consistancy. 8)
Eli may suck but he's better than Jason Campbell.
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 12, 2006, 04:10:01 PM
Eli may suck but he's better than Jason Campbell.
Obviously.
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 12, 2006, 04:10:01 PM
Eli may suck but he's better than Jason Campbell.
Eagles record against young QB's this year=2-4
Eagles record against non rookies/first year starters=5-2
Eli Manning sucks ass, IGY. Stop acting like he's the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas.
yeah because saying hes better than jason campbell is saying hes johnny unitas
makes sense
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 04:16:34 PM
Eli Manning sucks ass, IGY. Stop acting like he's the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas.
yeah because saying hes better than jason campbell is saying hes johnny unitas
makes sense
And saying the Eagles have a chance at winning a game against a team that is 1-4 in thier last 5, with thier only win being over a team that the apparently sucky Eagles beat, makes me a homer. :D
saying a win in the game is not homerish just someone having blind faith which is kinda cute
however coming up with the most inane reasons for it is homerlicious son
like the defense keeping people out of the end zone
like aluding to the fact that somehow this defense is like the good eagle defenses of 4-5 years ago because they kept jason campbell out of the end zone
eli supposedly sucking when he threw for almsot 400 yards against them THIS year in philly when the eagle defense was supposedly good
they sacked him 7 times that game and he still torched them
I never said they were the defense of 4-5 years ago. Learn how to read and stop trying to twist words around.
I said they've been playing well the last couple of weeks, and have been playing like they used to when they were "good". Give up yards, keep opponents out of the endzone, and make the big play when it matters. So, IF they can keep that up again this week, then it could be a win for the Eagles.
Eli Manning and the Giants are on a downword spiral, and thier only win in the laast 5 weeks was the Panthers. Yeah, Eli rules. :crazy
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 04:40:17 PM
I never said they were the defense of 4-5 years ago.
I said they've been playing well the last couple of weeks, and have been playing like they used to when they were "good".
k
Eli Manning and the Giants are on a downword spiral, and thier only win in the laast 5 weeks was the Panthers
you cant possibly be this dumb....the eagles beat those same panthers yet as you say they are "playing well"
in fact the eagles only wins in the last two and a half months are against carolina and washington
Quote from: SunMo on December 12, 2006, 04:38:41 PM
they sacked him 7 times in the first half and he still torched them the second half
fixed
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 05:01:46 PM
Eli Manning and the Giants are on a downword spiral, and thier only win in the laast 5 weeks was the Panthers
you cant possibly be this dumb....the eagles beat those same panthers yet as you say they are "playing well"
in fact the eagles only wins in the last two and a half months are against carolina and washington
Stop being such a negative nelly or these clowns might have to change their diapers.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 04:35:10 PM
saying a win in the game is not homerish just someone having blind faith which is kinda cute
however coming up with the most inane reasons for it is homerlicious son
like the defense keeping people out of the end zone
like aluding to the fact that somehow this defense is like the good eagle defenses of 4-5 years ago because they kept jason campbell out of the end zone
eli supposedly sucking when he threw for almsot 400 yards against them THIS year in philly when the eagle defense was supposedly good
just remember, when Manning had that big game in Philly, the secondary was a mess--you had no Sheppard playing, Rod Hood went out at halftime, and you had Joselio Hanson playing his first meaningful minutes of the season, along with Dexter Wynn,, who just let Amani Toomer go flying by him--a few times.
Defensively for the Giants, there will be no Strahan--rumor from NY is he could be out for the year. Also, Shaun O'Hara is dinged up--he might not play, so there will be a bit of a shakeup on the offensive line. Runyan will have to handle Kiwanuka, and as someone else pointed out, Westbrook will have to handle the ball at least 25-30 times.
I can see the Eagles completing a lot of passes against this secondary--Madison is not 100% still, and their other CB has been getting burned with regularity. I know last year, even when the Eagles had McMahon at QB, the Giants were completely healthy, and the Eagles had just as many questions on D, McMahon threw for 296 yards against them in the Meadowlands--and that was with Reggie Brown and Greg Lewis as the starters.
Somehow, I don't think this game is going to be a blowout like everyone expects. Right now, reading the NY papers, they're not getting any respect--and football, more than any other sport, is a game of emotion. And emotion can carry a team for a game. Just look at the Eagles-Cowboys game for an example--the Birds came out all fired up and it really affected the way Dallas started out. If they come out Sunday and punch the Giants in the mouth at their place, it'll shake them up.
we all better stop or our PM boxes will be filling up with some nasty stuff.
I think the Eagles have a shot, not a great one but it definitely isn't a guaranteed loss like the Colts game. Tikis gonna run all over us, we all know that. Eagles can't do too many 3 & outs, and they gotta hope Eli throws the game away. It's possible. :-X
I'd still put my money on the Giants... Bodog has the Eagles getting 6.
QuoteGiants | Claiborne released
Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:59:26 -0800
Michael Eisen, of Giants.com, reports the New York Giants have released LB Chris Claiborne.
Giants | Edwards signed
Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:56:17 -0800
Michael Eisen, of Giants.com, reports the New York Giants have signed OL Steve Edwards (Vikings). Details of the contract were not disclosed.
OMGMAYBETHEEAGLESWILLSIGNCLAIBORNETOREPLACEJASONSHORT
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 12, 2006, 06:16:27 PM
OMGMAYBETHEEAGLESWILLSIGNCLAIBORNETOREPLACEJASONSHORT
THATWOULDBE SUPERCALIFRAGALISTICEXPIALAMAZING :-X
For the record...I never buy into the '(insert team here) is on a spiral....blah, blah, blah'. That only works for other teams, not the Eagles. It might as well read '(insert team here)'s plane crashed killing all players on board...fortunately the T-1000's will be activated for game time'
This team can beat any team who has a moderate to crappy run game.
That ain't the Giants.
IF they have any chance at winning this game, they need to have ball control and keep the score low.
Tiki and Jacobs could easily have 100 yard games each. They need to limit their touches, a big early lead would help. The more Eli passes, the better off the Birds will be.
But, I'll tell you what really pisses me off. From a personnel standpoint, this defense is much the same as the one last year, that held LaDanian Tomlinson to 21 yards rushing, and had him under 0 until the 4th quarter. Yeah, Kearse is gone, and Dawkins has clearly lost a step, but come on. The difference between this team last year and this year, on defense, is heart. It ain't there, and the Birds are getting killed because of it.
The Eagles almost certainly lose on Sunday. But I'll be red-faced, angry and screaming just the same. And not getting laid because of it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 04:16:34 PM
Eli Manning sucks ass, IGY. Stop acting like he's the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas.
yeah because saying hes better than jason campbell is saying hes johnny unitas
makes sense
His being better than Jason Campbell isn't much of an endorsement, IGY.
That's all I was suggesting. :)
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 04:40:17 PM
I said they ... have been playing like they used to when they were "good".
False
QuoteGive up yards,
True. Everyone on this board should remember that JJ doesn't give a farg about rushing yards. The Eagles have gone to the NFCCG with one of the worst rushing D's in the league.
Ironically this compensated for AR's pass-happiness by making the other team kill the clock.
Quotekeep opponents out of the endzone,
True.
Quoteand make the big play when it matters.
That's where your memory fails my misguided friend - it wasn't that the D would make a big play, but that they would not give up the big play.
It was all about the number of plays per point baby, and they were chewing up 5+ minutes on every drive. With McNabb and co. scoring 24+ points/game, the other team didn't have
time to catch up.
Guess what - this team is giving up the big play, and they aren't scoring like they used to. I think the
can beat the Giants, but I don't think it is likely that they
will.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 12, 2006, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 04:40:17 PM
QuoteGive up yards,
... JJ doesn't give a farg about rushing yards. The Eagles have gone to the NFCCG with one of the worst rushing D's in the league.
Ironically this compensated for AR's pass-happiness by making the other team kill the clock.
Huh?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 12, 2006, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 12, 2006, 08:13:31 PM
Ironically this compensated for AR's pass-happiness by making the other team kill the clock.
Huh?
The offense was quick-strike or 3 and out...they never have had a grind-it-out, kill the clock offense under AR. It has always been my twisted point of view that by giving up lots of rushing yards, but not giving up lots of points (we are talking about the past here people) the Eagles were letting the other team kill the clock for them.
I didn't like it, but back then it seemed to work. This is the only point I'm willing to concede to Moronson.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 12, 2006, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 04:40:17 PM
I said they ... have been playing like they used to when they were "good".
False
QuoteGive up yards,
True. Everyone on this board should remember that JJ doesn't give a farg about rushing yards. The Eagles have gone to the NFCCG with one of the worst rushing D's in the league.
Ironically this compensated for AR's pass-happiness by making the other team kill the clock.
Quotekeep opponents out of the endzone,
True.
Quoteand make the big play when it matters.
That's where your memory fails my misguided friend - it wasn't that the D would make a big play, but that they would not give up the big play.
It was all about the number of plays per point baby, and they were chewing up 5+ minutes on every drive. With McNabb and co. scoring 24+ points/game, the other team didn't have time to catch up.
Guess what - this team is giving up the big play, and they aren't scoring like they used to. I think the can beat the Giants, but I don't think it is likely that they will.
I'm talking about in the last few weeks, the laast two wins. Yeah the defense gave up a ton of yards...but when it came to crunch time, and someone had to step up, they did. Lito against Carolina, and Dawkins against the taterskins. They havn't given up a real "big" play in the last two victories, and the only TD they gave up to the taterskins was actually very good coverage by Sheldon, but Campbell made a terrific pass to Randel El and put it right where it needed to be. And they've also been making some plays throughout the couse of the games, with the Dawkins INT two weeks ago and the Gaither and MLew INT's on Sunday.
This defense thrives on being able to force turnovers and make plays, and we havn't seen a lot of that since early in the season with all the sacks. The last one I can remember before Lito's INT in Carolina was Lito's INT against Dallas. When this defense makes plays, forces turnovers, and really does bend but not break, then it doesn't matter how many yards they're giving up.
And IGY, the reason why I'm bringing up the Panthers is because you're sitting here pimping the Giants as some vastly superior team....the same Giants team that has lost 4 out of the last 5, with thier only win being against Carolina. So you're basing your opinion of them being vastly superior to the totally sucky Eagles because they finally won last week? Against the same Carolina team that the totally sucky Eagles beat? ???
I'm not saying the Eagles will win...I'm saying they could win, and I've actually backed up why they can...Beacuse the defense has been playing better (yes, despite the yardage, they're still making plays and keeping teams to FG's when it counts), because Jeff Garcia doesn't totally suck like we all thought he would, and because Brian Westbrook can tear any team apart on any given day....The Giants have been terrible lately, Eli Manning has zero confidence, and the Eagles are going to be fired up for a division rival, in a game which actually could put them atop the NFC East, depending on the Dallas/Atlanta game.
Yes, I'm saying they could possibly win.. OMGHOMERKOOLAIDDRINKER@EAGDFSh$# ::)
Of course they could possibly win. That doesn't preclude you from being the (second) biggest clown on this board.
I think it will be a better game than what everyone is seemingly expecting. It will probably have a playoff feel and be decided in the 4th quarter. Both teams will make great plays, make some really stupid plays, and whoever plays better in the final possessions of the game will win it.
I'd give the edge to the Giants since they'll be playing at home with some intensity and something to prove, and they had a better win and looked more consistent last week against the Panthers. The Giants had a complete game against the Panthers last week; the Eagles had a nice first half.
Quote from: Eaglez on December 12, 2006, 11:16:40 PM
I'd give the edge to the Giants since they are so much better than the Eagles in almost every facet of the game and the only reason that they've been losing is because they have no respect for their head coach. Oh by the way, the Eagles are exactly the same in that category, only not as talented. Oops.
Fixed.
oh man, can't we all just get along? its like congress here the past few weeks. ::)
I don't see Dallas losing to Atlanta, unless Vick finds it it in himself to throw at least 2-3 Touchdowns and they find a running game... And this is very unlikely to happen. Falcons just ain't the Saints. Just ask the Falcons.
I think the Eagles can beat the Giants. Even if Tiki gets off a few long ones, the birds have beat them in the past the same way. The Eagles pass d can't afford to play around though. Seems like the Giants some how find a passing game in all of their moaning and shouting when they are losing somehow. But everyone here has to admit that Eli is sucking right now...
How come I can't reply to the NFC EAST Thread? did it get stopped because all of the bickering? haven't seen Leann Tweeden since Gene Simmons reality show a few weeks ago. Big sister Shannon is still looking good! "See what money does for you son?" That's what I am gonna tell him some day!
"the Eagles were letting the other team kill the clock for them. "
That's friggin funny! Sounds so much better like this though...
The taterskins killed the hell out of the clock for the Eagles this week! hahahahahah
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :sly
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 10:32:48 PM
I'm talking about in the last few weeks, the laast two wins.
No, you weren't, but if that is your current position, then shut the farg up about "when they were good".
Quote from: PhilLeeD on December 13, 2006, 12:23:13 AM
"the Eagles were letting the other team kill the clock for them. "
That's friggin funny! Sounds so much better like this though...
The taterskins killed the hell out of the clock for the Eagles this week! hahahahahah
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :sly
Look, I'm not trying to say that AR says "wow, we really got killed in time of possession, good job guys!". I'm just trying to get/give some insight as to why this coaching staff obviously doesn't give a shtein about the running game and time consuming drives.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 13, 2006, 06:14:45 AM
Quote from: Munson on December 12, 2006, 10:32:48 PM
I'm talking about in the last few weeks, the laast two wins.
No, you weren't, but if that is your current position, then shut the farg up about "when they were good".
Yes, I was.
When this team was "good" on defense, they gave up a ton of yaradge, especially on teh ground, but kept teams from getting into the endzone and forced turnovers. We didn't really see the big, drive stopping, game ending plays....we just don't have that kind of defense. But we have seen those big plays the last couple of weeks with Lito and Dawkins, in addition to keeping the teams from blowing the game wide open. While they have given up a big play in each game (screen pass TD, Randel El TD), they have been doing enough and making enouhg plays to keep the Eagles offense in the game. That's all we can ask of them right now.
If they can keep that up, then I don't give a farg how many yards they give up.
having the 29th ranked rush defense and being 30th in TOP might work against the skins and panthers but its not going to work at the meadowlands against the giants
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 08:59:20 AM
having the 29th ranked rush defense and being 30th in TOP might work against the skins and panthers but its not going to work at the meadowlands against the giants
Chyeah. Giants rule.
age check?
you HAVE to be a teenager still
They made some big plays on D, but I don't think anyone is confident enough to say the "bend, don't break" D is back. They have just been too inconsistent all year to have any confidence that a few INTs the past couple of weeks all of a sudden puts this team into the realm of a turnover making machine.
When the Eagles did give up a lot of yards but not a lot of points, I think everyone could feel confident that the worst damage would just going to be a FG. With this team, that confidence is shot.
Also, the 'bending' has been considerably closer to the goal line. Doesn't really spark too much confidence when the Eagles bend all the way to the 4, 5, or 6 yard line.
Quote from: T_Section224 on December 13, 2006, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 09:01:56 AMyou HAVE to be a teenager still
probably from DE too
Heh. :paranoid
Sarcasm is lost on internet message boards sometimes. Do you want me to start talking ebonics or something, IGY? Chyeah. ::)
Anyways, the Giants have beaten one team in the last 5 weeks....it's the same team the Jeff Garcia Eagles beat. The Giants were/are imploding and on a downward spiral and the only thing that stopped them was getting to play another team on a downward spiral. Just like the Eagles.
But no, the Giants, with thier plethora of injuries....are vastly supperior, not to mention better coached. Yo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 08:59:20 AM
having the 29th ranked rush defense and being 30th in TOP might work against the skins and panthers but its not going to work at the meadowlands against the giants
Man - you are seriously overrating that bullshtein team, IGY.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 13, 2006, 10:09:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 08:59:20 AM
having the 29th ranked rush defense and being 30th in TOP might work against the skins and panthers but its not going to work at the meadowlands against the giants
Man - you are seriously overrating that bullshtein team, IGY.
Thank you.
But this is also the same guy that said the Eagles had ZERO chance of beating the taterskins at FedEx....
Quote from: Eaglez on December 13, 2006, 10:04:08 AM
They made some big plays on D, but I don't think anyone is confident enough to say the "bend, don't break" D is back. They have just been too inconsistent all year to have any confidence that a few INTs the past couple of weeks all of a sudden puts this team into the realm of a turnover making machine.
When the Eagles did give up a lot of yards but not a lot of points, I think everyone could feel confident that the worst damage would just going to be a FG. With this team, that confidence is shot.
Also, the 'bending' has been considerably closer to the goal line. Doesn't really spark too much confidence when the Eagles bend all the way to the 4, 5, or 6 yard line.
I never said it was "back", I said they've been playing more like it lately, and
IF they can keep it up, they gotta good chance to win against the Giants.
I never said they'd defiantely win the game and that we should be confident. Not at all. This team could be 2-1 or 0-3 the rest of the way. There's no way to tell what could happen.
bend dont break is not the same as getting steamrolled every game but scoring a few defensive touchdowns
and bend dont break means not giving up pts...when the eagles were at their best they were always in the top five pts allowed and usually higher....i believe they were #1 one year and #2 another
this year they are in the 20's in pts
also bend dont break works against bad teams but not against good ones....which is why andy among other reasons is 16-30 in his career vs teams with winning records
the defense just plain sucks this year its not even close to some sort of bend dont break scenario
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
Turnovers and defensive td's are great and all but instead of relying on them to make big plays defensively, how about they go out there and do the little things instead. Like the d line putting pressure on the QB. The lb's hitting the right gaps and actually tackling. If this defense was capable of doing the things they were taught in pee wee league then they wouldn't need to worry about making the big plays on defense.
I know this is probably just crazy talk but if the defense can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves their chances of winning the game.
The Eagles getting Laron Landry AND Gaines Adams in this year's draft greatly improves their chances of beating the Giants next year.
The Giants match up too well with the Eagles when they have the ball.
Turnovers and big plays were never part of the Eagles defensive game plan. It was all about preventing big plays and forcing field goals.
2004 2006
Time of Possession: 26th 30th
Rushing D: 16th 29th
Takeaways: 15th 8th
Scoring D: 3rd 20th
Time of possession means nothing to the success of this team. Being in the bottom half of the league in rushing D doesn't matter to this team. Takeaways are meaningless (Arizona is #4 in takeaways this year, San Diego #13 and New Orleans is #30). It is all about scoring D, and this year the Eagles suck at Scoring D.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
You know what the defense
hasn't been doing since that pick 6 versus Dallas?
1. Tackling
2. Stopping the run
3. Pressuring the QB
4. Sacking the QB
5. Getting off the field on 3rd down
6. Keeping Points off the board
Trying to equate the late game turnovers this team has made... (due in part to dumb decisions/plays by the other team) to JJ's "bend but don't break" is just stupid. Because that's exactly what this defense has been doing... breaking left and right.
The Giants have been playing much better ball the last two weeks. Even when they lost to the Cowboys two weeks ago... the Giants outplayed them and they blew out the Panthers team in Carolina that we struggled with at home just the week before.
This team blew their chance to beat the Giants this year in the 4th quarter back in week 2.
I'm sure it's already been said, but the Giants' O-Line is pretty bad. And another starter, O'Hara, may be out too. That coupled with my belief anything is possible makes me certain the Eagles will pull out a win. Westbrook will make the Giants his bitches.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2006, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
Turnovers and defensive td's are great and all but instead of relying on them to make big plays defensively, how about they go out there and do the little things instead. Like the d line putting pressure on the QB. The lb's hitting the right gaps and actually tackling. If this defense was capable of doing the things they were taught in pee wee league then they wouldn't need to worry about making the big plays on defense.
I know this is probably just crazy talk but if the defense can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves their chances of winning the game.
I thinks it's pretty much a guarantee they won't do those things. This defense has show the only chance it has is to make big plays.
I will say that with Eli Manning at QB, the big defensive play is always likely. I don't know where the sudden love for him is coming since last week, but he was just as inaccurate and made poor decisions against the Panthers as he has all year. He just didn't get any picked off...
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 11:29:43 AM
3. Pressuring the QB
That's the real pisser. We were all joking around at the bar on Sunday every time Campbell dropped back we would all count, "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,........." the guy had all day.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 11:29:43 AM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
You know what the defense hasn't been doing since that pick 6 versus Dallas?
1. Tackling True
2. Stopping the run True
3. Pressuring the QB True
4. Sacking the QB True
5. Getting off the field on 3rd down False
6. Keeping Points off the board True and False
Trying to equate the late game turnovers this team has made... (due in part to dumb decisions/plays by the other team) to JJ's "bend but don't break" is just stupid. Because that's exactly what this defense has been doing... breaking left and right.
The Giants have been playing much better ball the last two weeks. Even when they lost to the Cowboys two weeks ago... the Giants outplayed them and they blew out the Panthers team in Carolina that we struggled with at home just the week before.
This team blew their chance to beat the Giants this year in the 4th quarter back in week 2.
That's two other things that this defense has done better at over the laast two games. They've made more 3rd down stops then they have been (The only reason why I remember this is because of how pleasnantly suprised I'd be during the Panthers and taterskins games when they'd make a 3rd down stop), and as for points....Yes, they allowed 24 to the Panthers, but when it came down to making the stop for the game win...They did. Something they didn't do against NO or Tampa Bay. And they only allowed 1 TD to the taterskins, after being on the field way too many times/for far too long. Reid, despite being up 21-3, 21-6, thought it was still cool to pass 3 downs in a row and didn't try to even run the ball twice in a row. Eventually, with all the chances they got, the taterskins were gonna kick enough field goals to catch up.
Now to beat the giants, they gotta get off the field on 3rd down more like they have been, they gotta keep the giants in the 14-24 point range, and just continue what they have been doing....Do just enough to keep the offense in the game, let Brian Westbrook and the passing game do its thing. Throw in a couple turnovers, and this will be a very good NFC East game.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 04:54:05 PM
That's two other things that this defense has done better at over the laast two games. They've made more 3rd down stops then they have been game.
Are you watching the same team as the rest of us? Did you happen to miss the 3rd and forevers we had the Skins in being converted by Jason farging Campbell and Jake Delhomme into 1st downs because of our lousy pass rush? I don't want to go rjs on you but get a farging clue.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 13, 2006, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 04:54:05 PM
That's two other things that this defense has done better at over the laast two games. They've made more 3rd down stops then they have been game.
Are you watching the same team as the rest of us? Did you happen to miss the 3rd and forevers we had the Skins in being converted by Jason farging Campbell and Jake Delhomme into 1st downs because of our lousy pass rush? I don't want to go rjs on you but get a farging clue.
I only remember one 3rd and long convereted in the taterskins game, and it was the one where Moss went over the middle and...surprisingly enough....MLew got out of posistion on the pass.
Against the Panthers, they made a few 3rd down stops that I certianly wasn't expecting them to make.
Before these past two games, they were giving up EVERY 3rd down. Over the past two weeks I've seen them at least make enough stops on 3rd down to keep the Eagles in the game. Hell, look at the first half of the Panthers game.....I think I remember the announcers saying it was cloose to some sort of record for the amount of total punts in the first half of a Monday Night Football game.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
Hell, look at the first half of the Panthers game.....I think I remember the announcers saying it was cloose to some sort of record for the amount of total punts in the first half of a Monday Night Football game.
They weren't talking about the total punts... they were talking about us. They mentioned that during our
6th punt midway through the 2nd quarter.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
Hell, look at the first half of the Panthers game.....I think I remember the announcers saying it was cloose to some sort of record for the amount of total punts in the first half of a Monday Night Football game.
They weren't talking about the total punts... they were talking about us. They mentioned that during our 6th punt midway through the 2nd quarter.
Well considering that the Panthers only scored once in the first half (and once in the final seconds on the half), they were punting just as much as we were, no?
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Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
Hell, look at the first half of the Panthers game.....I think I remember the announcers saying it was cloose to some sort of record for the amount of total punts in the first half of a Monday Night Football game.
They weren't talking about the total punts... they were talking about us. They mentioned that during our 6th punt midway through the 2nd quarter.
Well considering that the Panthers only scored once in the first half (and once in the final seconds on the half), they were punting just as much as we were, no?
Well yeah... but it's been well documented how much the Panthers offense has been struggling... not being able to convert 3rd downs, Delhomme even jacked up his thumb on their 1st TD... not that he's been playing that well anyway. The Giants don't have any such problems on offense.
Like I said earlier... they've been playing a lot better and they're not as likely to shoot themselves in the foot... which is what this defense will need them to do. Just as they needed Carolina to do... and just like they needed the Jason Campbell led Skins to do.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
Hell, look at the first half of the Panthers game.....I think I remember the announcers saying it was cloose to some sort of record for the amount of total punts in the first half of a Monday Night Football game.
They weren't talking about the total punts... they were talking about us. They mentioned that during our 6th punt midway through the 2nd quarter.
Well considering that the Panthers only scored once in the first half (and once in the final seconds on the half), they were punting just as much as we were, no?
Well yeah... but it's been well documented how much the Panthers offense has been struggling... not being able to convert 3rd downs, Delhomme even jacked up his thumb on their 1st TD... not that he's been playing that well anyway. The Giants don't have any such problems on offense.
Like I said earlier... they've been playing a lot better and they're not as likely to shoot themselves in the foot... which is what this defense will need them to do. Just as they needed Carolina to do... and just like they needed the Jason Campbell led Skins to do.
You're downtalking the Panthers, but giving the Giants all the credit in the world when that has been thier only win in the past 5 weeks. Not to mention the QB is Eli effin Manning, and the offensive AND defensive lines are decimated.
The Giants are so overrated around here it's crazy.
All the defense has to do is keep the Giants to somewhere in the 14-24 point range. Do just enough to keep the Eagles in it. It should be a good game.
I don't have to downtalk the Panthers. They're 6-7 and they're falling apart.
The Panthers are on a downswing. The Giants are on an upswing. simple.
And you say "hold them to 14-24 points" like it's something the defense has done consistently all year. If they were... we wouldn't be 7-6.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:39:11 PM
I don't have to downtalk the Panthers. They're 6-7 and they're falling apart.
The Panthers are on a downswing. The Giants are on an upswing. simple.
So...one win against a team on a downswing and the Giants are suddenly on an upswing?
Buuuut the Eagles beat that same team, and anohter inferrior team...and have a lot less injuries then the Giants...The Giants continue to implode....Tiki has a broken bone in his ball carrying hand....but the Giants are "vastly better" then the Eagles right now.
I don't see it. Sorry.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:39:11 PM
And you say "hold them to 14-24 points" like it's something the defense has done consistently all year. If they were... we wouldn't be 7-6.
They've been doing it hte last two weeks...why should this week be any different?
Delhomme/Smith/MeShawn > Manning/Burress/Tyree
The Giants, like the panthers, are dealing with a lot of injuries to thier already terrible offensive line....and the defensive line isn't too healthy either. They've dropped 4 out of thieir last 5.
This is the same team that was, what, 6-2 a little while ago? They're now 7-6.....Sorry if I'm not exactly scared to death of the Giants right now.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:48:38 PMSorry if I'm not exactly scared to death of the Giants right now.
I don't think anyone here is scared of the Giants. The Giants don't scare me one bit. The Eagles scare me every single week when they step on the field because I have absolutely no clue what so ever about the kind of performance or effort I'm going to see.
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
Coming in late, I know, but......let's not forget that Dallas easily drove the length of the field before that game sealing pick. That was as much luck as anything. Lito was standing where Bledsoe thought Clark was going to go, and not where Clark went.
It's gonna take a mistake-free football game on offense from the Eagles for them to win the game. I'm not saying the Giants are great. Far from it. They're a mediocre bunch with a bitch ass sissy for a quarterback but they do have weapons (Tiki scares the shtein out me) and if the Eagles defense doesn't pressure on the sissy, it could be a long afternoon.
I don't know why but I'm going positive this week:
In a thriller. . .
Eagles: 23
Giants: 21
I just hope that somehow the Eagles win. Neither of these teams deserves too much credit for anything good that's happened to them. I'm hoping Philly is luckier than New York, basically.
The Eagles will need to score on damn near, if not every, possession to win this game. Cause the Giants sure as hell will.
I'll be shocked if Eli throws 20+ passes in this game. Why wouldn't you run Barber and Jones every play?
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 13, 2006, 07:55:57 PMWhy wouldn't you run Barber and Jones every play?
Ask Andy Reid. You can bet your ass
he wouldn't run 'em much. He'd have something to say about sticking to the system, or some stale shtein like that to defend having Eli pass it all day long.
Zero time of possession + a defense that can't ever get off the field = blowout losses.
Zero time of possession + a defense that can't ever get off the field + a shteinload of luck + a defensive touchdown = close wins against zesty teams.
Pathetic.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 13, 2006, 07:55:57 PM
Why wouldn't you run Barber and Jones every play?
Because they aren't playing the Cowboys this week. :P
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 13, 2006, 05:39:11 PM
I don't have to downtalk the Panthers. They're 6-7 and they're falling apart.
The Panthers are on a downswing. The Giants are on an upswing. simple.
So...one win against a team on a downswing and the Giants are suddenly on an upswing?
Buuuut the Eagles beat that same team, and anohter inferrior team...and have a lot less injuries then the Giants...The Giants continue to implode....Tiki has a broken bone in his ball carrying hand....but the Giants are "vastly better" then the Eagles right now.
I don't see it. Sorry.
Go find where I said they were "vastly better". You can't so don't put words in my mouth. My point is that this defense hasn't shown that it's ready to stop any half decent offense... which the Giants have.
Also... learn how to look past the scoreboard. Even though the Giants lost to the Cowboys... their offense looked MUCH improved over what it did during the 1st 3 games of their losing streak. It also looked right on track against the Panthers as they dominated them at home... with Tiki going over 100 yards on the ground again and Eli throwing 3TD's with no picks. Matter of fact... Eli didn't throw a pick against the Cowboys either... and he's completed 60% of his passes over those games. He's in sync with Shockey... he's in sync with Burress... and oh yeah, Tiki is getting it done on the ground. It's all good though because Ladell farging Betts didn't hurt us that bad, right?
Meanwhile this "bend but don't break" defense as you've coined it just gave up over 400 yards on the ground by a 4-9 team led by 2 backups at their most important positions... and you continue to throw out "hold them to 14-24 points" like it's a forgone conclusion. The exact point, which you seem to be missing (who knows, maybe on purpose) is that this defense probably WON'T hold them to 14-24 points. They've shown nothing to say that they will... yet you're basing your whole argument about beating the Giants around it.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2006, 08:11:01 PMBecause they aren't playing the Cowboys this week. :P
Really, what's the difference.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 13, 2006, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 13, 2006, 08:11:01 PMBecause they aren't playing the Cowboys this week. :P
Really, what's the difference.
Are you asking seriously or sarcastically?
Do you really have to ask? How dense are you? The former.
HA! I meant Barber and Jacobs. But really, Dio's right. What difference does it make?
It doesn't because they'll all run for days against this defense anyway.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 13, 2006, 08:25:55 PM
Do you really have to ask? How dense are you? The former.
I think an apology is in order. :P
You'll get a steaming pile of shtein in your shag and like it.
Close enough. Apology accepted.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 13, 2006, 07:04:17 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 13, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2006, 10:14:31 AM
the defense just plain sucks this year
Right. I don't disagree.
But they've done things the last two games that I havn't seen them do since Lito's Pick 6 against Dallas. They've made plays and forced turnovers.
If they can do that against the Giants, it greatly improves thier chance of winning the game.
Coming in late, I know, but......let's not forget that Dallas easily drove the length of the field before that game sealing pick. That was as much luck as anything. Lito was standing where Bledsoe thought Clark was going to go, and not where Clark went.
Dallas drove the field easily? They had a 4th and 18 before Mike Lewis got his butt whipped and had to interfere with Terry Glenn--that's how they got down to the Eagles 6. They had sacked Bledsoe on the first two downs before a 10 yard pass made it 4th and 18. And it is Jason Witten you're talking about--Trotter bumped him off his route and caused him to go inside instead of outside.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 13, 2006, 07:52:31 PM
It's gonna take a mistake-free football game on offense from the Eagles for them to win the game. I'm not saying the Giants are great. Far from it. They're a mediocre bunch with a bitch ass sissy for a quarterback but they do have weapons (Tiki scares the shtein out me) and if the Eagles defense doesn't pressure on the sissy, it could be a long afternoon.
I don't know why but I'm going positive this week:
In a thriller. . .
Eagles: 23
Giants: 21
Do you think we could make Eli cry?
I think I'd consider the season a success if we could. Get him booed out of his own stadium or something. Ah, that'd be great.
Feva, I was talking about the fact that you're on teh same boat as IGY, who pimped the giants as some great team.
You're sitting here talking about the Giants offense like it's some sort of juggernaut...thier WR that hurt us most, Toomer, is out....thier offensive line is missing 2 or 3 starters....They've won ONE game, in the laast 5 against a zesty team, JUST LIKE THE EAGLES...so nothing, NOTHING points to this beign some sort of easy victory for the Giants. Not to mention the last time they played us, 2 out of our top 3 CB's were Dexter Wynn and Joselio Hanson... :boom
It'll be a close game.....I think Westbrook will end up having a huge game, 2 or 3 total TD's, and of course get over the 1000 yard mark. LJ Smith had a big game against the Giants last time if I remember correctly, and Garcia seems to like looking his way so....We'll see how it goes. Should be a great game (in terms of score, not in terms of the sloppy play I'm sure we'll see from both teams)
Feva, I was talking about the fact that you're on teh same boat as IGY, who pimped the giants as some great team.
link?
no one ever said the giants were great....just that they are better than the zesty ass eagles and are at home and will win this game rather easily
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 06:55:27 AM
Feva, I was talking about the fact that you're on teh same boat as IGY, who pimped the giants as some great team.
link?
no one ever said the giants were great....just that they are better than the zesty ass eagles and are at home and will win this game rather easily
You said they were 'much better' than the Eagles which they are not. Their identical records bear that out, IGY.
being much better than the eagles doesnt mean youre great
Lets all get along. It's Giant week. farg the Giants! :)
Garcia and Manning are a push, for this game. In fact Garcia is on a better streak coming in. Running game Giants huge edge, partly due to philosophy and our horrible D. TEs edge NY. Wide-outs Push. Plaxico is a better playmaker than PHI has, but PHI is more balanced in who can make plays. I think this game can be close. We'll find out I guess. I can't believe noone has got on the Gap for his Subway commercial yet. He's sitting at an alternative lifestyle lunch table w/Jared and spewing "More meat!" out of his mouth...
Quote from: Munson on December 14, 2006, 12:20:32 AM
Feva, I was talking about the fact that you're on teh same boat as IGY, who pimped the giants as some great team.
You're sitting here talking about the Giants offense like it's some sort of juggernaut...thier WR that hurt us most, Toomer, is out....thier offensive line is missing 2 or 3 starters....They've won ONE game, in the laast 5 against a zesty team, JUST LIKE THE EAGLES...so nothing, NOTHING points to this beign some sort of easy victory for the Giants. Not to mention the last time they played us, 2 out of our top 3 CB's were Dexter Wynn and Joselio Hanson... :boom
See... that's where you're wrong. I'm not about pumping up the Giants. Like I said in my last post... they have a half decent offense. If that's what you call pimping them... I don't know what to tell you.
I don't fear the Giants offense or defense. What I
do fear is this Eagles defense who's given up 200 yards rushing in 4 out of the last 6 games... and the one that hasn't seriously pressured a QB in weeks. Like I said from the jump... the Eagles should be able to score on the Giants. I like how they match up in that sense... and I do have confidence in Garcia to take advantage of the matchups. Why? Because he's shown that he's capable of that while he's been there. The Eagles D has only shown to be capable of being gutted up the middle and gashed on the corners by any team who even considers running the ball. The defense CAN'T STOP THE RUN TO SAVE ITS LIFE! The Giants do run the ball... and they do it well... and whether you want to acknowledge it or not... they've played better over the last couple weeks. Not tripping all over themselves like the Skins and Panthers.
Yet... I'm supposed to sit here and act like that doesn't matter because "they've won 1 game in their last 5"? Nope. Sorry. Does not compute.
look at the giant losses this year
colts 10-3
sea 8-5
chi 11-2
jack 8-5
tenn 6-7
dal 8-5
wins include three over plus 500 teams
atl
dal
phi
the eagles have exactly one win over a plus 500 team dallas
the others are pathetic
hou
sf
gb
was
car
was
dont underestimate the home field either...andy reid offenses are horrific in giant stadium avg 13 pts a game....this current defense is not holding the giants to 10 pts
31-13 giants
Paralysis by analysis.
showing you why by IGY
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2006, 11:12:48 AM
so when i pick the eagles over carolina im a contrarian
when i pick the giants over the eagles im fishing
things that make you go hmmmmm
the eagles got dominated by a putrid taterskins team it just didnt show on the scoreboard....sunday they will get dominated by a much better giant team and it will show on the scoreboard
The Giants have done exactly nothing in the last 5 weeks to show they are a "much better "team", especially with the amount of injuries that has hit them in the trenches, where they couldn't afford it. I do apoloigze for mixing up your words though, it was another poster who talked about thier vast superiority to the Eagles.
Both teams are 7-6, and the Eagles had the Giants dominated last time, before the Giants realized all they had to do was throw at Hanson and Wynn. They won't have Hanson and Wynn to throw at every play this time. Last time, all the Eagles were talking about was stopping Tiki Barber...I didn't think they would, and they ended up holding him to 57 yards. They're going to try and make Eli Manning beat them again, and I don't think he can with 1. No one with talent starting opposite of Burress, 2. 3 out of the 5 olineman injured or not playing where they should be, and 3. Eli Manning being the biggest Hoyda in the NFL.
And you can talk about running the ball all you want...as long as the defense steps up and makes plays/makes stops when they need to (like they have the last two weeks), then I don't care how many yards they give up. You can talk about how sucky the Panthers and taterskins are all you want, but how sucky they are had nothing to do with Lito jamming MeShawn, and making the big play when it mattered. And the taterskins sucking had nothing to do with JJ calling the right playcall for once and Dawkins making the big sack to keep the taterskins out of the endzone. Big plays and turnovers. Those arer certainly possible against the Giants.
Reid of course, will need to run the ball. Blah. :'(
I think it'll be a score somewhere like the Panthers game....both tehams in the low 20
s-low 30's in score. But I think it's stupid to predict what team will win, because this is a game between two division rival 7-6 teams, fighting for thier playoff lives (and possibly a division crown). Either one could come out on top.
eagles dont score in the 20's at giant stadium
eagles have scored in the 20's once ever under reid at giant stadium (TO)
reid is terrible vs teams with winning records 16-30 all-time
reid is even worse on the road vs teams with winning records
and you didnt mix up my words you straight up lied about them...i never said the giants were a great team just superior to the eagles
If the Eagles had held on to beat the Giants, none of your stats regarding teams with winning records would have meant dick, IGY.
Just sayin'...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 14, 2006, 12:42:24 PM
If the Eagles had held on to beat the Giants, none of your stats regarding teams with winning records would have meant dick, IGY.
Just sayin'...
The Giants have a higher VORP. They win, end of discussion.
True, but their OPS sucks and they don't have Levon Kirkland playing linebacker.
Discussion re-opened.
They also don't have Mike Lewis or Dhani Jones playing for them either. And their bullpen hasn't walked anyone this year.
Closed.
Jeremy Shockey's gay.
Open.
You can open up for a gay Shockey all you want. I have nothing else to contribute. That is incredibly accurate.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 12:29:13 PM
eagles dont score in the 20's at giant stadium
eagles have scored in the 20's once ever under reid at giant stadium (TO)
reid is terrible vs teams with winning records 16-30 all-time
reid is even worse on the road vs teams with winning records
and you didnt mix up my words you straight up lied about them...i never said the giants were a great team just superior to the eagles
And the truth shall set us free!
Very glaring issues here. This could be very scary.
yeah unfortunately the numbers are the numbers...hardly means the eagles cant win i just dont see them actually doing it
tho id give anything to come on the board monday and eat lots o crow
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 02:17:58 PM
yeah unfortunately the numbers are the numbers...hardly means the eagles cant win i just dont see them actually doing it
tho id give anything to come on the board monday and eat lots o crow
... and that's exactly what I think is being lost on people around here.
They seem to think: don't think they will = don't want them to
That ain't the case. I'll be screaming and cheering as loud as anyone else if the Eagles go and pull out a win in NY... but I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself about their chances if recent trends don't point to them being successful.
Anyone who's negative isn't a fan. In other words, believe or leave.
The end.
:poison
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 14, 2006, 03:13:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 02:17:58 PM
yeah unfortunately the numbers are the numbers...hardly means the eagles cant win i just dont see them actually doing it
tho id give anything to come on the board monday and eat lots o crow
... and that's exactly what I think is being lost on people around here.
They seem to think: don't think they will = don't want them to
That ain't the case. I'll be screaming and cheering as loud as anyone else if the Eagles go and pull out a win in NY... but I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself about their chances if recent trends don't point to them being successful.
Recent trends also point to Eli Manning being a little Hoyda, and the Eagles defense playing a little bit better then they have been (yardage aside). Yards don't win games, points do. And right now the Eagles defense is doing just enough to allow the offense to score more then the other team.
I'm going to be screaming at the TV all day long. Should be an awesome game.
Maybe Akers can kick a game winning FG or something, for old times sake.
Eli's completed 60% of his passes for 442 yds... 5TD's and 0 INT's the last 2 weeks.
But he's a little hoyda while the Eagles D is "improving"... yardage aside, of course. Got it.
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
Ive read every post in this thread so far (not sure why), and you just dont get it. Saying the Eagles D sucks doesnt make you a bad fan. It makes you an educated fan....and even that is debatable bacause my 3 year old cousin could tell me how bad the D has been this year.
You can go on thinking your SuperFan and continue to preach your ridiculus views about this team, but do us all a favor - take off the green glasses and watch the game objectively on Sunday. If the team plays like it has been over the past few weeks, I cant imagine you'll have the same views.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
As idiotic as Munson is, he did manage to say something that holds water. The Skins doubled up the Eagles in yards last week and the Eagles still won.
While I'm sure that statistically, gaining more yards than your opponents increases the odds of you winning, it's not written in stone. And it's true, points are the only thing that matters at the end of the game.
Having said that, Munson is still a flamming idiot and I'm certain that his actually saying something that makes a little sense was nothing more than a mental mistake on his part.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
The Skins doubled up the Eagles in yards
If the Giants double us up in yards, we'll be out of it by halftime. You can take that to the bank.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
The Skins doubled up the Eagles in yards
If the Giants double us up in yards, we'll be out of it by halftime. You can take that to the bank.
True. I'll give you that.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
The Skins doubled up the Eagles in yards
If the Giants double us up in yards, we'll be out of it by halftime. You can take that to the bank.
True. I'll give you that.
A ride to the bank?
If the Giants double us up in yards, we'll be out of it by halftime. You can take that to the bank.
exactly
i think he thinks we are playing the skins again this week
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 04:48:58 PM
A ride to the bank?
Yes. A ride to the bank. The blood bank.
Peter King picks the Eagles (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/12/14/picks.week15/index.html)
QuotePhiladelphia (7-6) at New York (7-6)
Maybe I'm overselling Jeff Garcia, but this three-game starting streak he's on? Donovan McNabb had a great opening-season stretch this year, but it wasn't better than the last 12 quarters played by Garcia.
Philadelphia 27, New York Giants 20
You damn skippy he's overselling Garcia.
Props to Garcia for playing good ball in McNabb's absence so far... but McNabb was the early season MVP... and was leading the league in TD passes when he got hurt. The offense... if not more consistent... was sure as hell more explosive.
Quote from: Die-Hard on December 14, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
"Yards dont win games, points do"
Dude, thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
Yards = Points = Losses.
Ive read every post in this thread so far (not sure why), and you just dont get it. Saying the Eagles D sucks doesnt make you a bad fan. It makes you an educated fan....and even that is debatable bacause my 3 year old cousin could tell me how bad the D has been this year.
You can go on thinking your SuperFan and continue to preach your ridiculus views about this team, but do us all a favor - take off the green glasses and watch the game objectively on Sunday. If the team plays like it has been over the past few weeks, I cant imagine you'll have the same views.
I don't remember calling anybody a "bad fan", but okay.... ??? I've already said the defense sucks this year. I've agreed with it when said. But I also know they've palyed better in the last two weeks then they have since...god knows when. Making big plays, forcing turnovers, keeping the offense in the game enough to give them a chance to win it. That's NOT something they've been doing most of the year.
I just think it's stupid to be so down on a team that has won 2 in a row and is playing a team that's only beaten one team in the last month, the same crappy team we beat. The Giants aren't THAT good. This game could go either way, it's not some lopsided Giants lock to win.
And no, yardage does not = points. Getting in the endzone=points. Yardage is a stat padder. They can give up all the yardage they want, as long as they keep the opposing team out of the endzone and give up field goals or create turnovers and make the big stop/big play. That's how both of the last two wins have ended...a turnover and a big stop/play.
Of course, it's up to the offense to score as much as they have been hte last few weeks too. Which they can as long as Garcia continues to keep the mistakes to a minimum, and Reid runs Westbrook.
unless you have a fg kicker that has range out to 80 yards then im sorry but yardage does mean a ton....yes pts are obviously most important...even you know that...but you need yards to get to the place where the points are...ie the red zone
can you occasionally get outyarded and still win against a crappy team sure...but thats rare and against quality opponents you have to get pts which come from moving the ball and getting yards and in turn stopping the other team from doing the same
Christ- I got 3 pages in and now even I'm depressed... LOL
I hope the Eagles come out with that same "we already lost" attitude. :=)
Hi Bluey. ;D
Hiya Phreaky. ;D
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2006, 09:06:45 AM
unless you have a fg kicker that has range out to 80 yards then im sorry but yardage does mean a ton....yes pts are obviously most important...even you know that...but you need yards to get to the place where the points are...ie the red zone
can you occasionally get outyarded and still win against a crappy team sure...but thats rare and against quality opponents you have to get pts which come from moving the ball and getting yards and in turn stopping the other team from doing the same
For the record, the Eagles are 3rd in the league in YPG. They're 7-6
And the Falcons lead the leag in rush YPG with almost 200. They're 7-6
So, like I siad....the Eagles can let the Giants get 200+ rushing yards for all I care...as long as the defense can do what it has done the laast couple weeks, make some big stops and force a couple turnovers.
For the record, the Eagles are 3rd in the league in YPG. They're 7-6
And the Falcons lead the leag in rush YPG with almost 200. They're 7-6
the eagles are 30th in rush yard defense
the falcons are last i believe in pass yard defense
so its not surprising that both teams are around 500 as they are good in one aspect and horrible in the other....its not just about getting yards its about giving up yards....do well in both and you have a really good team
are yards the end all be all...no...but to suggest in anyway that yards arent ultra important is retarded
jason campbell/ladell betts <<<<<<<eli/tiki - End of farging story.
Forget what the D has done the past few weeks. That kind of effort will not cut it on Sunday. That kind of effort will get us beaten by 17.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 15, 2006, 04:05:38 PM
For the record, the Eagles are 3rd in the league in YPG. They're 7-6
And the Falcons lead the leag in rush YPG with almost 200. They're 7-6
the eagles are 30th in rush yard defense
the falcons are last i believe in pass yard defense
so its not surprising that both teams are around 500 as they are good in one aspect and horrible in the other....its not just about getting yards its about giving up yards....do well in both and you have a really good team
are yards the end all be all...no...but to suggest in anyway that yards arent ultra important is retarded
Yards aren't ultra important...points are. You can drive to the oppenents 20, 15, 10 yard line all you want...but if you can't put the ball into the endzone from there, and/or if you throw an INT or cough the ball up....you're not going to win the game. As I've repeated over and over, I think the defense will do just enough to keep the offense in the game, just as they have the last few weeks. Iti should be a good game, probably won by a 1-7 point margin.
Also, Tiki/Jacobs will not be rushing for 200 yards this week, if this team has any heart at all. They held them once, they should have the confidence to do it again.
Die-Hard, it doesn't matter who's getting the yards, as long as the defense can come up with the turnovers/big plays, and give the ball back to the offense. Continue to do enough to keep the Eagles in the game.
Holy Hell you guys talk about the Giants like they're the friggin Chargers. :sly
Eli Manning + Numerous injuries on an already zesty Oline + Numerous injuries on the dline = Not a great team. An average team. Like the Eagles.
youre clueless
the end.
Giants=average
Eagles=average
Stop overrating the Giants.
amazingly, at least one, maybe both of these teams will make the playoffs.
And even more amazingly, both would have a chance at winning thier first round games, against an underachieving Seahawks team, and a Dallas team who's QB is finally playing like a new QB should be playing...like shtein.
earlier in this thread, a smart cat said that neither of these teams deserves ANY credit for anything good that's happened to them.
both teams are weak, both suck, neither of them deserve to play post season games at all, etc.
bickering over which sucks less is teh stoopid
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2006, 04:32:07 PM
earlier in this thread, a smart cat said that neither of these teams deserves ANY credit for anything good that's happened to them.
both teams are weak, both suck, neither of them deserve to play post season games at all, etc.
bickering over which sucks less is teh stoopid
I'm not quite sure any team in the NFC deserves a post-season game, besides the Saints and Bears. Maybe the Cowboys, but it looks like the NFL might have caught up to Romo.
Should be some exciting playoff games. :crazy
Quote from: Munson on December 15, 2006, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2006, 04:32:07 PM
earlier in this thread, a smart cat said that neither of these teams deserves ANY credit for anything good that's happened to them.
both teams are weak, both suck, neither of them deserve to play post season games at all, etc.
bickering over which sucks less is teh stoopid
I'm not quite sure any team in the NFC deserves a post-season game, besides the Saints and Bears. Maybe the Cowboys, but it looks like the NFL might have caught up to Romo.
Should be some exciting playoff games. :crazy
I would love nothing more to see Romo choke like a dog going down the stretch but I'd hardly say that 1 bad game against the most well balanced team in the NFC means that the entire NFL has figured him out.
Plz Kill Urslf
We are totally gonna win this weekend. That is incredibly intuitive.
Eagles = Slightly below average
Giants = Slighly above average
Giants 24 - 19
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2006, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 15, 2006, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 15, 2006, 04:32:07 PM
earlier in this thread, a smart cat said that neither of these teams deserves ANY credit for anything good that's happened to them.
both teams are weak, both suck, neither of them deserve to play post season games at all, etc.
bickering over which sucks less is teh stoopid
I'm not quite sure any team in the NFC deserves a post-season game, besides the Saints and Bears. Maybe the Cowboys, but it looks like the NFL might have caught up to Romo.
Should be some exciting playoff games. :crazy
I would love nothing more to see Romo choke like a dog going down the stretch but I'd hardly say that 1 bad game against the most well balanced team in the NFC means that the entire NFL has figured him out.
Plz Kill Urslf
Some of the people around here are idiots.
Check his numbers against the vaunted Giants defense as well. He hasn't done too well for a couple of weeks now. ;)
Eagles = Slightly below average
Giants = Slighly above average
i agree with this but the score wont be as close imo
It is going to be fun watching Brandon Jacobs run through our undersized front 7.
Yea... it is.
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 15, 2006, 05:09:57 PM
It is going to be fun watching Brandon Jacobs run through our undersized front 7.
Jacobs is the least of my worries. I don't even look at him as a threat. He's big so the media overhypes him...but if you watch him play you know he's nothing special. He has too much height to play the postion, he leaves his midsection open and goes down pretty easy. He doesn't even break tackles well. Tiki on the other hand is going to run through our D like a hot knife through butter.
Actually, SD, other than last week where he was shut down, he's been playing really well. He's broken off some sick ass runs by just plowing over people.
I watch him every week and he's yet to impress me, the only reason he gets so much attention is because of his size. He's a very poor running back tool-wise. I'd rather have a short yardage back who is stout and can put his head down and plow ahead.
Quote from: BlueHeart on December 15, 2006, 06:34:54 PM
Actually, SD, other than last week where he was shut down, he's been playing really well. He's broken off some sick ass runs by just plowing over people.
translated - "B Dawk will lead the team in tackles this week" farg.
Jacobs' career won't be long. He presents too much of a target; defenders put a licking on him much easier than they do a normal sized RB.
I disagree. Size doesn't matter.
I am gonna agree with Munson that the Eagles can win this game.
G-Men OPP
TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 1724 1305
TOTAL PASSING YARDS 2635 3040
The Eagles have been able to stop Tiki many times in the past and win. They do still allow him to get off some really long runs, but over all limit his effectiveness. This year they are Out Rushing the opposition by 400 yards, but are also getting Passed on by almost that same amount.
Garcia should be getting comfortable in throwing, which means he may throw his 1st INT this week. Hopefully, it will be only one or none at all. I think this is the week him and Stallworth hook up for some big plays. Westbrook is about to break the 1000 yard barrier and Reid better darn well allow him to gain as much as possible! >:(
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 15, 2006, 07:08:38 PM
I disagree. Size doesn't matter.
Just like in the Cold War. It didn't matter how big you Nuclear Missiles were, but how you deployed them...
JJ hasn't deployed shtein lately in any straight forward and effective way, and each time he has gambled on the full onslaught, he has been got.
But this isn't nuclear war and any female would tell you different. ::) She would probably tell you that you have to work twice as hard and that is what the Eagles D will have to do differently the next 2 weeks.
Uh, ok.
Hey, your the one that said "Size doesn't matter"
I realize we aren't talking about the same thing, but it is a funny statement none the less.
I say "if Size Doesn't Matter...then the Birds will have to work twice as hard to plug dem hoes!"
Westbrook may be the PR tomorrow.
Thank god.
Perry @ KR; Westbrook @ PR = good.
I won't feel better about the return game until they figure out how to block.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 16, 2006, 11:41:29 AM
I won't feel better about the return game until they figure out how to block.
I agree. If devin hester was returning punts for us he would be getting nailed after 5 yards too. I think it is much more of a blocking problem. i.e, a coaching problem. This is the 2nd consecutive crappy year for harbaugh's teams.
its a personnel problem...when you lose guys like keith adams ike reese ect... your on the field performance is going to suffer
Come on. We have Dedrick Roper. A real leader on the field.
Could be worse... you could have Chad "I Fall Down After 4 Yards" Morton back there for ya. At least Westbrook is capable of busting out a hot run with his own abilities.
except that westbrook doesnt actually play on special teams
Sal Pal:
Shaun O'Hara out. It will affect the Jints OL because Rich Seubert has to start at C and he cannot line up at TE now to help Whitfield at LT.
:=) is out today too. Giants are 2-15 all time without him.
Bunkley will play more today and Walker will play DE more in heavy packages.
So Bunkley might get 5 snaps this week? Awesome.
Can't they just face facts and deactivate Walker?
Shawn Barber
William James
Ryan Moats
Max Jean Giles
Pat McCoy
Winston Justice
LaJaun Ramsey
Jason Avant
Is Andy brain dead? Jesus.
Let's sit James, your tallest CB, when facing Plaxative Burress. Rod Hood has a gimpy hamstring.
Deactivate Mahe and dress James. Or at least sit Hanson. Farg! >:(
Quote from: Dillen37 on December 17, 2006, 02:49:05 PM
So Bunkley might get 5 snaps this week? Awesome.
I've seen that before... somewhere. (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19346.msg479482#msg479482) :paranoid
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 03:28:17 PM
Shawn Barber
William James
Ryan Moats
Max Jean Giles
Pat McCoy
Winston Justice
LaJaun Ramsey
Jason Avant
farging ridiculous. Hanson did such a great job the last time... he's getting another shot to get abused, I guess. And everyone knows we're set at DT. They're impregnable!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh. James? Ramsey?
God farging damn it.
Awesome game so far. :puke
Special teams perfoming nicely. Patterson jumping early. Looks great. Tiki scores. Giants suck.
ohhh this doesn't look good ::)
This could be a long day.
Just got the feed on my dish. Just in time to see the Eagles OT jump early.
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 04:23:25 PM
This could be a long day.
of course it is, i wouldn't expect otherwise.
Westy is the man
Eagles' O looking good so far. :paranoid
hey give the O some credit here there looking good, nice response to the Giants TD
Impressive drive thus far.
good god I thought Timmy Chang had happy feet. WTF is Garcia hallucinating that he is walking on hot coals with Anthony Robins?
Need to see a touchdown here.
I think the announcers are in love with Jeff ::)
Buckhalter TD!
farg yeah!!
TD BUCK!!!!!!!
Excellent drive right there. Great playcalling, great execution.
Oh,oh special teams :paranoid
TOUCHDOWN!!!!!
I can hear Metallica playing over the PA
That was a really nice play call right there. Kudos to the Fat Ass.
Sweet.
I am facing someone with Westy today. I hope we see quite a bit of Buck today.
It looked like the Giants were genuinely surprised that the Eagles ran on 3rd and goal.
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 04:34:33 PM
Sweet.
I am facing someone with Westy today. I hope we see quite a bit of Buck today.
And I need Westy to help me out here ;)
Darwin plugs a hole.
CHance for the defense to get a stop here.
dammit! three and out, dream on.
:-\
Son of a bitch.
THIS looks more like the defense we've come to know and loathe. :boom
OK, looks like tiki, plax, tiki, plax........ Think JJ can figure it out? By halftime? 4th Q?
Come on D!
Trent Cole the run stopper.
Interesting comment there earlier, Howard has really disappeared, then again until that tackel I forgot about Cole too.
lucky!
Nice coverage by Hood. farg you Plaxico.
Coughlin you farging idiot use farging Jacobs.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 04:40:01 PM
Interesting comment there earlier, Howard has really disappeared, then again until that tackel I forgot about Cole too.
my only vision of this defense this year is Consendine getting piggybacked for 10 yards downfield.
who is this Buckhalter :o
Been a long time since I've seen him contribute a little
who is that #13 playing QB for Tampa?
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 04:40:01 PM
Interesting comment there earlier, Howard has really disappeared, then again until that tackel I forgot about Cole too.
my only vision of this defense this year is Consendine getting piggybacked for 10 yards downfield.
Such high expectations...did the Kerse injury hurt that D that much?
Tim Ratay
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 04:42:41 PM
who is that #13 playing QB for Tampa?
Another washed-up SF QB now playing backup elsewhere.
First quarter went by fairly fast.
shtein. Overthrew him.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 04:42:41 PM
who is that #13 playing QB for Tampa?
Another washed-up SF QB now playing backup elsewhere.
hahahaahaa, hey wait a second!
I saw a little pinky there for a second but in Westy's defense he was going to get leveled.
Air Guitar with the farging hit out of bounds. Idiot.
it's official.....
I HATE DHANI.
stupid motherfarging idiot. stick that guitar right up your ass along with your bow tie.
does the term "pressure" ever come up at a birds defensive meeting?
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 04:48:30 PM
it's official.....
I HATE DHANI.
stupid motherfarging idiot. stick that guitar right up your ass along with your bow tie.
Dumb ass
Fumble recovery by Considine!
It's a fumble! Recovery Iggs!
Too many farging penalties.
yes, yes, yes, yes
5 penalties already!
1st and 20 thanks to Baskett. The running game is working well despite the penalties.
Baskett redeems himself. :yay
it will be a long time before I retire my Dawkin jersey!
And now Baskett makes up for the penalty.
pretty good coverage Troy? guy was mauling him after five yards.
way to get out of the doghouse Hank!
OK, I think I'm in love with Jeff !
Nice poise, nice play calling...
Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
Same here. When did that shtein start?
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
yeah, whats up with that?
Reid finally realizes we are more than 20 minutes into the game and he hasn't wasted any timeouts yet.
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
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Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
PLEASE!
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 04:56:34 PM
Is there anyway to turn off that damn notification that says someone posted while I was trying to reply? I have to hit the post button for about a minute to get it to farging work.
yeah, whats up with that?
Its annoying the shtein out of me, thats whats up.
This Little Muffin Ass hearts you DIO.
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Thanks.
WHAT IS WITH THE DAM PENALITES!
Well that was an awful call.
You're welcome, Little Miss Muffin Ass.
Refs have money on the Giants! Conspiracy!!
Dawk my hero!!!!!
Love Shockey's "maturity" there. Thanks for the 15, nutcase! :-D
Refs are calling this game real tight.
This game is very winnable. Come on Iggs.
LJ, bout time you showed up!!!
Shockey is a liability. He's a problem always. Sore loser, bad winner. Constant whiner, always has an excuse. Celebrated 70% of his catches like he won Prom Queen.
nice game so far...........2 minute warning! 2 and goal from the 1
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 05:16:11 PM
Shockey is a liability. He's a problem always. Sore loser, bad winner. Constant whiner, always has an excuse. Celebrated 70% of his catches like he won Prom Queen.
Ya but he'd like to be in a threesome ....a mother and two daughters :-D
Gotta punch this one in or there will be some stale momentum going into the locker room at halftime.
Running the ball a lot, good clock management, what happened to my beloved Eagles?
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 05:20:15 PM
Running the ball a lot, good clock management, what happened to my beloved Eagles?
Not sure but I like it......and using Buck.......ok not soo good.
Go for it??????????
Quote from: NGM on December 17, 2006, 05:20:15 PM
Running the ball a lot, good clock management, what happened to my beloved Eagles?
You had to ask...
TD #36!
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
LETS fargING GO BABY.
TOUCHDOWN EAGLES! :evil
Why am I happy when the Eagles stop the KO return before the 35? :-\
Can the Eagles defense hold the Giants for a minute to take the 14-7 lead to the locker room?
Joe Buck keeps talking like there were a lot of upsets today, but were there any surprising results other than the taterskins beating the Saints?
Gotta stop them here to keep the momentum. I would love to leave the Giants sour!
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
Joe Buck keeps talking like there were a lot of upsets today, but were there any surprising results other than the taterskins beating the Saints?
Jets?
DAMNED DEFENSE! :boom
Hold them to a LONG FG try
Could the defense suck harder?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
Joe Buck keeps talking like there were a lot of upsets today, but were there any surprising results other than the taterskins beating the Saints?
Jets?
Tennessee
Yeah, Tennessee.
Here comes Feely. 47 yarder is good.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
Given the way the Vikings have been losing lately to every team not named the Cardinals or Lions, and given the way that the Titans have now won 5 straight games, I wouldn't consider either of those games upsets.
Go Birds
After a rough start they have rebounded well.
Stop the farging penalties already though. Jeez.
Defense...can we see some pressure? Thanks.
Andy keep running the ball...keep Tiki off the field. Good gameplan so far. I was shocked he went for the TD. But I like it I wanted him to go for it.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 03:31:32 PM
I've seen that before... somewhere. (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19346.msg479482#msg479482) :paranoid
Oh yeah?
Tiki will get his, but if we keep the big plays to a minimum then the odds should be in our favor.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 05:38:29 PM
Given the way the Vikings have been losing lately to every team not named the Cardinals or Lions, and given the way that the Titans have now won 5 straight games, I wouldn't consider either of those games upsets.
You speaketh the trutheth. I made a nice chunk of change on the Jets today... I knew I shoulda put some down on the Titans.
As for the Eagles game... I love they way their running the ball. I love the fact that they went for the TD on fourth down and ran it all 4 downs if I remember correctly. Giving up that field goal at the end did piss me off though, now the giants have some momentum + the ball to start the second half.
The Eagles D and special T are still still a pain to watch, overrall though I'm happy.
If the defense can generate some more turnovers, they should be able to overcome their inability to stop opposing teams enough to enable the team to get a W.
Giving up 8 yards rushing on 3rd and 1... to their small running back. What would have Jacobs done to the Birds there?
Omar Gaither looks game for some football, doesn't he?
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 05:56:28 PM
Omar Gaither looks game for some football, doesn't he?
Compared to the six guys the Eagles drafted before him, Gaither looks like a Hall of Famer.
Nice YAC by Reggie Brown there.
I love seeing the Eagles RBs trashing the interior of the Giants line.
48 yard attempt here.
no good.
Akers displaying additional evidence that he isn't what he used to be. :boo
:boom
He's been on the decline since the Super Bowl.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:06:02 PM
Akers displaying additional evidence that he isn't what he used to be. :boo
something ain't right in Akerville.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:03:10 PM
I love seeing the Eagles RBs trashing the interior of the Giants line.
I love seeing an eagles QB getting pissed off and not walking around giggling after he fargs up.
48 ain't a short kick, so I'm not going to call for his head. But it used to be you didn't have to hold your breath as much with him.
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:03:10 PM
I love seeing the Eagles RBs trashing the interior of the Giants line.
I love seeing an eagles QB getting pissed off and not walking around giggling after he fargs up.
Shows heart, now it's time to turn it on.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 06:11:52 PM
48 ain't a short kick, so I'm not going to call for his head. But it used to be you didn't have to hold your breath as much with him.
It's not even holding my breath... now I just
assume it's no good if it's over 40.
Well, I was being charitable.
Big drive coming up. I need to start drinking.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 06:11:52 PM
48 ain't a short kick, so I'm not going to call for his head. But it used to be you didn't have to hold your breath as much with him.
true as my son just defended him but you are correct about holding your breath. Three years ago you could get up and walk away from the TV for a snack as he was lining up and not have to worry. Now I cringe outside of 30 yards.
leporsey?
Horrible drop by Tapeh on 2nd down.
oh shtein!
Fumble goes to NY
I got a sinking feeling that that's ballgame.
another stellar second half performance
With the penalty on Cole, the Giants get the ball inside the ten. And as if to make things worse still, Reid is challenging, presumably that it was an incomplete pass rather than a fumble. He'll lose that challenge, and a TO.
Brilliant.
Let the drinking begin.
farging farg.
looks like we can all start making plans for the weekend of January 6 & 7 as we will not have to worry about football.
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 06:21:09 PM
looks like we can all start making plans for the weekend of January 6 & 7 as we will not have to worry about football.
I wouldn't go that far. Not because I have any faith in the Eagles, but because the NFC is THAT bad.
oh no Lewis hurt! farging season is over. NOOOO!!
Mike Lewis gets hurt every farging game. farg him.
that sportsfans was farging huge!
Nice stop by the Birds D. The offense needs to be resurrected quickly though.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:03:10 PM
I love seeing the Eagles RBs trashing the interior of the Giants line.
I love seeing an eagles QB getting pissed off and not walking around giggling after he fargs up.
Shows heart, now it's time to turn it on.
You have got to be farging joking.
You guys know what I love seeing? An All-Pro QB!
RENO RENO RENO RENO!!!!!
If Reno Mahe was as fast as a typical NFL running back, that's a TD.
Ha. Reno. What a joke. You're so right, QB.
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 06:29:20 PM
RENO RENO RENO RENO!!!
He's had his good and bad but that was the JUMP we needed!
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:29:20 PM
If Reno Mahe was as fast as a typical NFL running back, that's a TD.
Yes and no.
He was slowing down to get around the kicker and was caught from behind.
visions of Vai Sikahema.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:29:20 PM
If Reno Mahe was as fast as a typical NFL running back, that's a TD.
Yes and no.
He was slowing down to get around the kicker and was caught from behind.
And if he wasnt a weakling he would have just ran over the kicker like everyone else does.
Garcia's happy feet are making me dizzy!
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:29:20 PM
If Reno Mahe was as fast as a typical NFL running back, that's a TD.
Yes and no.
He was slowing down to get around the kicker and was caught from behind.
And if he wasnt a weakling he would have just ran over the kicker like everyone else does.
sure
Troy Aikman speaking as if Akers would actually make the FG from that distance...
Aikman is stoned.
That was huge! TD Westy!
SWEET! farg YES!
:evil :yay
going for 2
yes, yes, yes
easy pass to Reggie Brown for the 2 is called back....PI on Westbrook
too many penalties
no, no, no
high snap....PAT was no longer a given....whew
21-16
nice freaking hold.....
that was not smart.
little more discreet next time westy.
Not sure why they went for 2 anyway. 22-16 still isn't enough to cover a Giants TD. Actually, with a 5-pt lead, it forces the Giants to go for 2 if they score one....
Illegal Pick...Farg :P
Giants fooled by the 3rd and short running play. Andy's master plan is coming to fruition. :yay :paranoid
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 17, 2006, 06:39:25 PM
Not sure why they went for 2 anyway. 22-16 still isn't enough to cover a Giants TD. Actually, with a 5-pt lead, it forces the Giants to go for 2 if they score one....
I was confused as well. I guess AR was thnking 2fg's will tie it at 22.
bull shtein!
Dumb ass penalty
Rod Hood sucks
I like that Gathier
Eagles ball on the fumble recovery. Dawkins is playing like a madman these past two games.
BEAUTIFUL!!!
REDEMPTION!
CATCH AND FUMBLE!! :evil
Dawk is awesome today
BDawk's involved in a lot of good plays today.
Holding :P
Three turnovers created or made by Dawk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
now it's time for that 8, 9 minute drive capped off by a birds score, preferably a td.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 17, 2006, 06:39:25 PM
Not sure why they went for 2 anyway. 22-16 still isn't enough to cover a Giants TD. Actually, with a 5-pt lead, it forces the Giants to go for 2 if they score one....
There's a stat-based cheat sheet that tells coaches when to go for two.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 06:43:18 PM
BDawk's involved in a lot of good plays today.
8 tackels, 2 FF, 1 INT
G-Lew to the 32
Yeah, a QB showing emotion is great. ::)
Garcia you are a dumb, dumb shtein!
competive heat doesn't always pay
More penalties please.
unbelievable.
WTF :boom :boom :boom
emotions? just plain dumb farg where I come from.
:puke
picked off :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
returned to the 40
like I said, unbelievable.
Not even close.
all on you Garcia.
come on D
Sheldon draws PI againtst Plax. Grrr.
F'ing sick of this
These penalties are insane. Where is the goddamn discipline?
Now Considine gets in on the penalty party.
Rough.
LET THEM PLAY FOOTBALL, ENOUGH
Yeah Penalties.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 17, 2006, 06:52:56 PM
LET THEM PLAY FOOTBALL, ENOUGH
12 FOR 103 :evil :evil :evil
Seubert hurt. Time for the 3rd string center...
I rarely blame the refs but this is the worst called game I have EVER seen quite possibly. That PI call on Westbrook was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE call and that PI on Brown was a total joke. The ball wasn't even catchable and he didn't even impede his progress.
They are handing this game to the Giants. Worst called game EVER.
can we have a group puke?
we sure as hell better draft some cbs that over 6 feet next year. preferably 6'9.
Quote from: King Cole on December 17, 2006, 06:55:06 PM
I rarely blame the refs but this is the worst called game I have EVER seen quite possibly. That PI call on Westbrook was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE call and that PI on Brown was a total joke. The ball wasn't even catchable and he didn't even impede his progress.
They are handing this game to the Giants. Worst called game EVER.
the ball did look uncatchable
Target the goddamned center! He's a third string noone now that Seubert is down.
Tiki stuffed on the 2 pt attempt
22-21, 6:59 left
if nothing else , nice stop on the three point try
why do i want to cry?
Time for Garcia to make up for his mistakes. Is he mentally tough?
we need TOUCHDOWN!
must have TOUCHDOWN!
TOUCHDOWN BROWN :evil :evil :evil :evil
have TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!
now we pray.
7 point game, bitches!
HUGE!!!
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2006, 07:00:06 PM
Time for Garcia to make up for his mistakes. Is he mentally tough?
Nicely done, Jeffy! :yay
Time for the defense to NOT roll over like big babies and let the Giants score.
now I am crying.
I just wish I had confidence in the defense.
OK, maybe now I won't kick him in the _ _ _ _ for that dumb penalty
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2006, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2006, 07:00:06 PM
Time for Garcia to make up for his mistakes. Is he mentally tough?
Nicely done, Jeffy! :yay
He's looking and smelling like a good quarterback after that drive.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 17, 2006, 07:00:06 PM
Time for Garcia to make up for his mistakes. Is he mentally tough?
More than most people on this board. :P
Akers, holy shtein! What a kick.
Will this not be Eli's first lose to the Eagles ?
3 mins left for a Manning :-\
farg YEAH!!!!
PICKED OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
TD!!!!!
YEAH F'ERS
Ha ha ha!!
I"m happy happy happy.
KING COLE!
Should be ballgame.
yes, yes, yes
Trotter might want to hit the STD clinic on the way home, after that kiss by Garcia.
OH SWEET JESUS!
Did anyone else see Garcia kiss Trotter? :paranoid
Quick, someone put up a video of Garcia kissing Trotter. Or whoever that was.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 17, 2006, 07:10:44 PM
Quick, someone put up a video of Garcia kissing Trotter. Or whoever that was.
don't need to see that again
homophobe!!
I know its easy for me to sit here and criticize from the comfort of my home by why didn't Tiki just knock Trent Cole's head off?
Nice to see the defense come up with the big play. :yay
how many Time outs does NY have?
4th down and 5. Let's just end this shtein right here!
farg you shockey!
Getting to see that hit on Shockey was worth letting the Giants get a first down.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 07:17:21 PM
Getting to see that hit on Shockey was worth letting the Giants get a first down.
WAC/BOISE ST. represent!
dawk you animal!
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 07:17:21 PM
Getting to see that hit on Shockey was worth letting the Giants get a first down.
I was hoping for a concussion, but then I remembered that one has to have a brain to get a concussion.
Eat it Giants fans
"The time is running out on the Giants, and so are these fans." - Joe Buck.
Ha.
I'm so farging happy. ;D
He too. Hear that Eagles chant?
Still have more work to do but had to pop in to say this is a HUGE win.
I only got to watch the first half in full and bits and pieces of the second half, but I saw enough and will watch the recording later. Awesome game. I've been hard on Garcia, but he's been coming up big in his time.
Burress quit on that play.
Man I didn't think they could do it, I love being wrong!
let plexiglass catch one as time expires than rip his head off!
what a mother farging game.
goddman...i love when they beat the Giants, almost better than sex
Crazy that the Eagles could win the division without any outside help at this point in the season.
that was great. I could not be any prouder of this team. good job birds.
i promise i wasn't one of those guys cashing in the season after garcia's int. ::)
This was the best showing by the Eagles in weeks. :yay
First two legs of igy's "impossible trifecta" down. I know what I want for Christmas!
Great job in the 4th quarter!
:yay :yay :yay :yay :yay Dawkins :yay :yay :yay :yay
Dawkins is the heart and fire of this team. He shows up every game every play. We are lucky as hell to have him on this team.
Great win. farg the Giants! They can have that win in Week 2!
Quote from: SunMo on December 17, 2006, 07:23:06 PM
what a mother farging game.
goddman...i love when they beat the Giants, almost better than sex
I think FF is going to owe you $20 at the end of the seaon.
I am going to welcome an endless week of harassing my Giant fan roomate.
This was awsome.
he would've, if i didn't Hoyda out and buy my way out after the tennessee loss
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OMG!
What a great farging game
-Omar Gaither is a difference maker
-Dawkins is a beast
-Interior line finally stepped up and had a great game
-Garcia is a warrior
-Westbrook=Team MVP
Glad to see that we could overcome the ridiculous shtein calls we were getting. The league should look at a tape of this game because the refs were atrocious.
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 07:23:25 PM
i promise i wasn't one of those guys cashing in the season after garcia's int. ::)
That was one of the few second half plays I caught... all I could do was yell "what the farg was that" then go back to work. That was a terrible throw. He made up for it on the go ahead drive, but that was craptacular.
Well, I know what I want for Christmas. >:D
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/QBEagles/Eatin-Cowboys.gif)
Dawkins, Gaither, Westbrook. Jaqua Thomas did some good work and so did Darwin Walker.
Let's not get too excited though. The Giants aren't all that.
This makes the Giants something like 2-13 when Strahan is out.
Quote from: TexasEagle on December 17, 2006, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on December 17, 2006, 07:23:25 PM
i promise i wasn't one of those guys cashing in the season after garcia's int. ::)
That was one of the few second half plays I caught... all I could do was yell "what the farg was that" then go back to work. That was a terrible throw. He made up for it on the go ahead drive, but that was craptacular.
They shouldn't of even been throwing down the field there. That was a playcalling mistake IMO, can't put it all on Garcia (the throw was garbage though).
What a great game. Back and forth. Multiple heart attacks, no fingernails left and guzzling beer like a champ.
Playcalling.
OL getting a push
Run defense in the 2nd half
Jeff Garcia stepping up after making stupid plays back to back.
Tooooooo many farging penalties though
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 07:36:55 PM
Tooooooo many farging penalties though
Way too many ticky tack calls from the refs. The Garcia penalty was bullshtein. The Burress PI was borderline. Burress pushed off on Lito in the first half for a 29 yard pass play but there was no call. Half the holding calls they called were bad. Awful officiating. I hope the Eagles send a tape to the league office.
All that get swepts under the rug!farg New York.
Gotta love our fans, all I hear in the background IN NY at the post game is Eagles chants and Dallas Sucks chants. farg Jimmy Johnson.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 17, 2006, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 07:36:55 PM
Tooooooo many farging penalties though
Way too many ticky tack calls from the refs. The Garcia penalty was bullshtein. The Burress PI was borderline. Burress pushed off on Lito in the first half for a 29 yard pass play but there was no call. Half the holding calls they called were bad. Awful officiating. I hope the Eagles send a tape to the league office.
Agreed. And it seems like Eagle QBs get less roughing calls than any other QB in the NFL. McNabb and Garcia have taken shots and many don't get called. Since the NFL wants to baby the QBs, why don't they get the calls that some other QBs get?
That holding on Tra that wiped out the play in the 1st half was BS too.
Incredible. In-farging-credible!
First... let me say that the D surprised the hell out of me.
- Although early, it looked like more of the same... they did a damn good job against the run today. Darwin Walker finally woke the farg up.
- In the second half... we finally started getting some real pressure on Eli. That definitely made a difference.
- Brian Dawkins will forever be a god in Philly. He was huge today. Simply the best.
- 4 Turnovers by the D today. That's big.
- Brian Westbrook... get this man to the Pro Bowl. Earned his nickname "Giant Killer" again. 3 yds short of 100 though. :boom
- Welcome back Buck. He was GREAT in his change of pace role today. Gave them a helluva 1-2 punch with Westbrook.
- Jeff Garcia was pretty solid again. Outside of his bonehead taunting penalty and his pick... he was on point.
- Reggie Brown came up with some good YAC on some big catches today.
- The O-line for the most part was great. They gave Garcia time to do his thing.
I can't tell you how excited I am to see this defense finally step up and play some physical, smart football. Just about every issue that had been plaguing them the past month or so pretty much disappeared today.
The only thing that was killing me was the penalties. Gotta play smarter than they did in those instances.
Dallas sucks.
Ahem.
If the Eagles defense can make the big stops and hold the Giants to field goals, and force some turnovers, then they can give up all the rushing yards they want. As long as they do enough to keep the Eagles offense in the game and give them the chance to win.
"You're an idiot, why would they do that against the Giants, they havn't done it yet this year."
Yes they have. THey've done it the last two weeks against the Panthers and taterskins, and they can do it against a struggling Giants team who's only beaten the same zesty Panthers in the last 5 weeks. They can do it, and if they do, the Eagles got a shot to win the game. Stop overrating the Giants, they aren't that good.
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Oh, yeah...
Westbrook is too small and injuury prone to ever carry the load, let alone rush for 1,000 yards in a season.
:-D
Eli looks like hes gonna cry in his PC. :-D :-D
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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 07:36:55 PM
Tooooooo many farging penalties though
Way too many ticky tack calls from the refs. The Garcia penalty was bullshtein. The Burress PI was borderline. Burress pushed off on Lito in the first half for a 29 yard pass play but there was no call. Half the holding calls they called were bad. Awful officiating. I hope the Eagles send a tape to the league office.
Agreed. And it seems like Eagle QBs get less roughing calls than any other QB in the NFL. McNabb and Garcia have taken shots and many don't get called. Since the NFL wants to baby the QBs, why don't they get the calls that some other QBs get?
That holding on Tra that wiped out the play in the 1st half was BS too.
The call on Tra was horrible. There were 2 or 3 roughing the passers that should have been called against the Giants. They were nailing Garcia late all game long. Amazing that they'll call a spike a personal foul but when Kiwanuka nails Garcia in the ribs after he clearly threw the ball it's not called. What a bunch of crap. I rarely if ever bitch about the refs but this game could have been lost by them.
I can't wait to go to work tomorrow and remind my co-workers that they root for Plaxico, Eli, and Shockey. Losers.
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Umm they didnt give up that many rushing yards, dingus.
Jeremy Shockey = Quintin Mikells bitch.
Mikell INtd a ball intended for him a couple of years ago and he smoked that icehole today.
What was funny about that loser was he told Dhani to use his head when bowtie's dumbass got that PF. Then he spears Considine. Dooshbag
Playoff update:
The Eagles cannot finish below Green Bay (H2H), San Francisco (H2H), Carolina (H2H) or St. Louis (conference record), and if Seattle loses out, they'll have 6 conf losses and would finish below the Eagles in a wildcard race, so it's down to Atlanta and Minnesota....
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 07:50:05 PMWhat was funny about that loser was he told Dhani to use his head when bowtie's dumbass got that PF.
The irony of that gesture was delicious.
Looking good. Wow. Who would've thunk it.
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Umm they didnt give up that many rushing yards, dingus.
YEs, they played even better then I expected. I expected a lot of yards given up but the Eagles defense to make the big stops and create turnovers to keep the Eagles in teh game. But they did one better, pretty much shutting down the Giants. :yay
Christmas will be a fun day
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Enjoy Dave, I don't think you'll see the people who have been on your nuts the last few weeks.
Andy Reid deserves some credit too. He's been blasted (and rightfully so in most cases) lately but today might have been his best coaching job to date. It was a big game and he was aggressive and managed the game well, which was one of his weaknesses.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 08:03:56 PM
Andy Reid deserves some credit too. He's been blasted (and rightfully so in most cases) lately but today might have been his best coaching job to date. It was a big game and he was aggressive and managed the game well, which was one of his weaknesses.
Areed. Reid made some excellent in-game adjustments, though Morningwood might have been the playcaller....but they were pretty balanced today, and that was definately key to coming out with a win.
If the Eagles win the division and the Saints lose one more game then Andy should get coach of the year. Someone had to say it and Andy has got this team bouncing back after falling under .500.
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Umm they didnt give up that many rushing yards, dingus.
YEs, they played even better then I expected. I expected a lot of yards given up but the Eagles defense to make the big stops and create turnovers to keep the Eagles in teh game. But they did one better, pretty much shutting down the Giants. :yay
Christmas will be a fun day
No crow for me, thanks.
Hey... like I said... the defense did not make all the mistakes they had made over the last few weeks that put them in bad positions in the first place. Did I expect them to play this well? Hell no. Nobody did. Doesn't make what I said any less true though. In the past few weeks... they sure as hell haven't shown that they were going to play like they did today. I'm happy as hell they did though.
jeffy is so money....he's definitely better than mcnabb. :deion
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 08:03:56 PM
Andy Reid deserves some credit too. He's been blasted (and rightfully so in most cases) lately but today might have been his best coaching job to date. It was a big game and he was aggressive and managed the game well, which was one of his weaknesses.
Areed. Reid made some excellent in-game adjustments, though Morningwood might have been the playcaller....but they were pretty balanced today, and that was definately key to coming out with a win.
Marty was.
I really liked him going for it at the end of the half.
Also...
Did y'all see that shot of Ernie Accorsi? Dude has a black eye. I need a screen shot...
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 17, 2006, 08:03:56 PM
Andy Reid deserves some credit too. He's been blasted (and rightfully so in most cases) lately but today might have been his best coaching job to date. It was a big game and he was aggressive and managed the game well, which was one of his weaknesses.
Areed. Reid made some excellent in-game adjustments, though Morningwood might have been the playcaller....but they were pretty balanced today, and that was definately key to coming out with a win.
The playcalling today was EXCELLENT! The misdirection on Buck's TD run was beautiful. I had about fell out of my chair when they showed the play count at one point and the Eagles had 22 rushes and 19 passes. :o
Marty needs to call the plays from here on out.
Quote from: King Cole on December 17, 2006, 08:05:52 PM
If the Eagles win the division and the Saints lose one more game then Andy should get coach of the year. Someone had to say it and Andy has got this team bouncing back after falling under .500.
That's retarded. Payton turned around a moribund franchise in a city that needed an emotional boost, with great personnel selections and in-game coaching. Reid is leading a still-underachieving team limping into the playoffs, which they would have no chance of sniffing if the NFC had more than one solid team in it.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:10:50 PM
Marty needs to call the plays from here on out.
I'm pretty sure Marty's been calling the plays for the last two years.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:10:50 PM
Marty needs to call the plays from here on out.
I'm pretty sure Marty's been calling the plays for the last two years.
???
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: King Cole on December 17, 2006, 08:05:52 PM
If the Eagles win the division and the Saints lose one more game then Andy should get coach of the year. Someone had to say it and Andy has got this team bouncing back after falling under .500.
That's retarded. Payton turned around a moribund franchise in a city that needed an emotional boost, with great personnel selections and in-game coaching. Reid is leading a still-underachieving team limping into the playoffs, which they would have no chance of sniffing if the NFC had more than one solid team in it.
This team is only underachieving in the fans eyes.
Pretty much every analyst even Diddy had the Eagles somewhere around 8-8.
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:10:50 PM
Marty needs to call the plays from here on out.
I'm pretty sure Marty's been calling the plays for the last two years.
???
To be more precise, I think a committee of Reid and Marty have called the plays for the last couple seasons, and that this committee is still calling the plays today. I don't buy for a second that there was a fundamental changeover in playcalling duties in the first taterskin game; the team just whooped them so badly that Reid wanted to finally acknowledge Marty's contributions to the media.
Brad was the OC before this year so it wouldve been him and Reid
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 17, 2006, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:10:50 PM
Marty needs to call the plays from here on out.
I'm pretty sure Marty's been calling the plays for the last two years.
???
To be more precise, I think a committee of Reid and Marty have called the plays for the last couple seasons, and that this committee is still calling the plays today. I don't buy for a second that there was a fundamental changeover in playcalling duties in the first taterskin game; the team just whooped them so badly that Reid wanted to finally acknowledge Marty's contributions to the media.
Then where would Childress have come in before this season then?
He was the OC... and Andy made the calls. I don't think Marty was involved in playcalling as well. Too many chefs in the kitchen.
Not that this matters too much... but this (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent) put a smile on my face.
This was definitely the most complete game the Eagles put together all year against who some on this board thought was a superior opponent who would make quick work of the Eagles.
I had a feeling that this game was going to have a playoff atmosphere, and it sure did. It was just an overall great game and a great win. Garcia really played well. He bounced right back, marched them down the field, and threw a perfect pass to Reggie Brown.
The only black eye were the number of penalties the Eagles racked up. That definitely needs to be corrected going into Dallas next week. This game was called very tight though, the refs did not allow them to really play out there today and called a lot of ticky tack fouls. I thought Sheldon's pass interference in the end zone could have went either way, and when the game is on the line like it was at that moment I hate when refs intervene. Even if Sheldon didn't have the arm bar on Plaxico the ball was pretty much uncatchable.
Great win. If this win doesn't put at least some confidence in anyone then I don't know what will. Great win, on the road, in December. The Eagles are playing with confidence that is pretty apparent. With the NFC the way it is; the Bears barely beating the Bucs at home, Dallas losing to the Saints, the Saints losing to the Skins at home, Seattle losing at home, etc. who knows who will come out of the NFC. The Eagles are playing good ball right now. As long as they keep balanced, the O-line continues to maul people, and the D (i.e. Dawkins) can force turnovers and stay solid in the red zone this team could be fun to watch in the upcoming weeks.
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:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 09:23:38 PM
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:-D :-D :-D
[Sinatra] NEW YORK NEEEEEEEW YORK [/Sinatra]
cant wait to go into work tomorrow! :yay
FARG DALLAS!
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Umm they didnt give up that many rushing yards, dingus.
YEs, they played even better then I expected. I expected a lot of yards given up but the Eagles defense to make the big stops and create turnovers to keep the Eagles in teh game. But they did one better, pretty much shutting down the Giants. :yay
Christmas will be a fun day
No crow for me, thanks.
Hey... like I said... the defense did not make all the mistakes they had made over the last few weeks that put them in bad positions in the first place. Did I expect them to play this well? Hell no. Nobody did. Doesn't make what I said any less true though. In the past few weeks... they sure as hell haven't shown that they were going to play like they did today. I'm happy as hell they did though.
Wrong. Eagles defense has, for the last couple weeks, made big stops, forced teams to kick FG's, and created turnovers. This week, they did all that AND held the rushing yards/total yards of the other team to a minimum. That's the part that I wasn't expecting.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 17, 2006, 10:24:42 PM
cant wait to go into work tomorrow! :yay
FARG DALLAS!
Oh yeah! gonna be a good day at work tomorrow. 3 jerks owe me 20 bucks each and one owes me 10. Can't wait to collect my money and talk crap till they all go away and hide.
Quote from: Eagles 3x on December 17, 2006, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 17, 2006, 10:24:42 PM
cant wait to go into work tomorrow! :yay
FARG DALLAS!
Oh yeah! gonna be a good day at work tomorrow. 3 jerks owe me 20 bucks each and one owes me 10. Can't wait to collect my money and talk crap till they all go away and hide.
its not even that....i live in NYC! they gone get some tomorrow!
understand completely. I live 30 miles outside Syracuse. Guess we'll both be talking trash and kickin ass.
Now I almost wish I had school tomorrow, since my principal is a Giants fan.
Almost, that is. 8)
Don't look now, but not only could the Eagles actually win the NFC East, with just a little help they could even get a bye. HA!
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 09:23:38 PM
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:-D :-D :-D
It looks like he's trying to kick Sheli in the nuts this time.
Gotta give some props to Cole. He was the goat in the first game and the hero in this one by locking up that game. Creepy.
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 17, 2006, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: Billy Beane on December 17, 2006, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 17, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
Eat crow and enjoy....the game next week is for the division lead. :fire Cowboys
Umm they didnt give up that many rushing yards, dingus.
YEs, they played even better then I expected. I expected a lot of yards given up but the Eagles defense to make the big stops and create turnovers to keep the Eagles in teh game. But they did one better, pretty much shutting down the Giants. :yay
Christmas will be a fun day
No crow for me, thanks.
Hey... like I said... the defense did not make all the mistakes they had made over the last few weeks that put them in bad positions in the first place. Did I expect them to play this well? Hell no. Nobody did. Doesn't make what I said any less true though. In the past few weeks... they sure as hell haven't shown that they were going to play like they did today. I'm happy as hell they did though.
Wrong. Eagles defense has, for the last couple weeks, made big stops, forced teams to kick FG's, and created turnovers. This week, they did all that AND held the rushing yards/total yards of the other team to a minimum. That's the part that I wasn't expecting.
Slow down with all your silly ass chest pounding and read what I wrote. I said that against the Giants, the defense had not made all the mistakes like they had been the past few weeks. The bad tackling, the missed assignments which resulted in big chunks of yardage being eaten up , etc... wasn't there today as much as it had been. They played pretty solid all around today and played with much more emotion and heart than they have in weeks... which is what I was saying they'd need to do in order to beat the Giants.
They got 4 turnovers against the Giants after getting 6 in their previous 4 games.
They held the Giants to 2-9 in 3rd down conversions after allowing 22-52 their last 4 games.
They held the Giants to 88 total yds rushing after giving up 200 yds or more in 4 out of their previous 6.
I'd say that's improvement for the defense, not doing what they have been doing... but don't let facts get in the way of your ranting.
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up yo ass, tim carter.
Clark on SF said that the headsets once again went out during the game. Happens a little too often up there, no?
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Quotes from yesterday:
Quote"Stop sleeping on us, man," Westbrook screamed in the tunnel of Giants Stadium after the game. "Give it up. Stop underestimating us. It's time. It's time to start recognizing."
Quote"They stuck with their game plan," Giants all-pro running back Tiki Barber said. "They wore us down, kept giving those guys the ball. That's how you win ball games."
Quote"I liked having it all clinched," Lurie said. But next Monday "is a chance for us to win the fifth division [title] in six years. That's special. We want this one right now: this division, this year, right now."
Quote"We were tired of hearing how we couldn't stop the run," said Eagles defensive end and sometime tackle Darren Howard. "Believe me, that kind of talk is a motivating factor."
Quote"We found some glitches and fixed them, but most of all we came here to shut people up," Cole said.
Quote"They want to talk about this guy getting old," Brown said. "That's crap. This guy has the motor of a 23-year-old coming out. He's flying around. He's forever making plays for us. I don't know how he does it." talking about Dawk)
Quote"Westbrook kept texting me and talking to me and said, 'I have faith in you' and 'keep it going,' so things like that, you want to play for guys like him," Mahe said. "I am just grateful for the opportunity and I can't complain about any role I have."
Mahe credited special-teams coordinator John Harbaugh for the successful return.
"Coach Harbaugh said they will over-pursue our wedge, and then the guys just made great blocks," said Mahe
Quote"Jeff comes with a lot of energy and fire out there, man. We just feed off that out there. He's a feisty guy," Thomas said. "He acts like a defensive end out there sometimes. He gets all fired up, fussing at everybody. But that's good, it keeps everybody on their edge."
Die Hard sent me a text message around 1:30. He said 'one fight down, looking for #2'.
:-D
That was farging awesome yesterday. Great effort by the Eagles, especially the offensive line. They dominated, plain & simple.
freaking die-hard, i'll have to start looking at the front pages of the papers to see how well documented this one is.
nice win by the birds, they seemed to put it all together.
Apparently the "Die Hard pose" is the new Heisman posture for the fans:
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I love this shot:
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Ha. That's great, Sus.
What is Jeff Lurie talking about? They cannot win the division next week.
gold
standard
season ticket holders have to have their $190 for playoff tickets in by Friday. this game was a step towards paying that money. i still don't know what to do though.
i know its an awful decision...i think i gotta do it now
i cant believe the divisonal round ticket is $115...my god what would they charge for a conference championship game (full dsiclosure: i believe the nfl sets the postseason ticket prices not the individual teams)
i thought the divisional was $85 and the conference was $105
at least, that's what it is for me.
mine might be $80 and $110....its either 110 or 115
My invoice says $85 and $110.
I was on the fence about paying, depending on the results of yesterday. I don't have a big problem with paying it now. The only problem is that it's a nice chunk-o-change at a bad time of the year.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 18, 2006, 09:22:18 AM
The only problem is that it's a nice chunk-o-change at a bad time of the year.
exactly. i know that you can put it towards your tickets next year or get a refund, but the timing is bad. Even if i knew they would definitely have one home game, I'd probably do it. but you could pay $190 and not get anything, which wouldn't be great.
i know that you can put it towards your tickets next year or get a refund
wait so you dont have to put it towards next years seasons?
i didnt think getting a refund was an option
Im only repeating what my grandfather told me Saturday night, as the tickets are in his name and he got the letter, but he told me that you can get a refund. He could've been mistaken though.
Yes, there is an option to get a refund. If you pay online, there is a box to check so that they will refund your CC should the games not be played.
I just went ahead and did it...and I opted to not check the refund box. It might reduce the the season-ticket-renewal pain a little.
I was listening to Chris Carter on Sirius radio this morning, and he makes a great point - not only did the Eagles execute well, but they had an amazing game plan going into the game. As a number of others have pointed out (sarcastically), the Giants were actually SURPRISED for a number of plays. Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for the Westbrook-Buck 2 back set?
Also, it was nice to have a QB out there who feels like a Philly QB. I like the fire and the passion. No giggling after throwing a pick. No whiney-faced expressions when someone runs the wrong route or misses a block. Right in their face, getting the job done. McNabb may be a better athlete and probably a better QB, but Garcia is leading this team.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 18, 2006, 11:07:14 AM
I was listening to Chris Carter on Sirius radio this morning, and he makes a great point - not only did the Eagles execute well, but they had an amazing game plan going into the game. As a number of others have pointed out (sarcastically), the Giants were actually SURPRISED for a number of plays. Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for the Westbrook-Buck 2 back set?
Also, it was nice to have a QB out there who feels like a Philly QB. I like the fire and the passion. No giggling after throwing a pick. No whiney-faced expressions when someone runs the wrong route or misses a block. Right in their face, getting the job done. McNabb may be a better athlete and probably a better QB, but Garcia is leading this team.
Garcia is playing well, but don't kid yourself.
Quote from: Eaglez on December 18, 2006, 11:13:12 AM
Garcia is playing well, but don't kid yourself.
Well, unless you rely completely on stats, you could argue until you are blue in the face about one QB vs. another. Some would say that DMac's tendancy to physically and/or mentally fall apart in big games - to the point where he is puking on the field - might diminish his value as a QB.
Still, that is the least part of my point. Garcia is giving this offense the kind leadership that it has been sorely missing in the AR era.
I would just like to give a big farg you to all the fans who didn't give the Eagles a chance. That is all :flipoff
Quote from: Cerevant on December 18, 2006, 11:07:14 AM
I was listening to Chris Carter on Sirius radio this morning, and he makes a great point - not only did the Eagles execute well, but they had an amazing game plan going into the game. As a number of others have pointed out (sarcastically), the Giants were actually SURPRISED for a number of plays. Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for the Westbrook-Buck 2 back set?
Also, it was nice to have a QB out there who feels like a Philly QB. I like the fire and the passion. No giggling after throwing a pick. No whiney-faced expressions when someone runs the wrong route or misses a block. Right in their face, getting the job done. McNabb may be a better athlete and probably a better QB, but Garcia is leading this team.
The reason why they were surprised, as the NY papers pointed out, was that the Eagles, not known as a running team, ran it right up the gut of the Giants' defense--out of a spread formation in which they usually pass.
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
I would just like to give a big farg you to all the fans who didn't give the Eagles a chance. That is all :flipoff
...a chance for what? Does anyone give a shtein about making the playoffs anymore?
To me, 0-16 and 10-6 are basically the same, assuming the end result is that some other team wins the Super Bowl.
I'm just happy they are playing hard and not bending over and taking it. There is heart in this team. So regardless if we make the playoffs or not, I'd like to see them go down fighting and playing 4 qrtr games like the last 2 weeks. Its easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Again... chance of what? Sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round?
But 0-16 wouldn't be fun to watch at all. We watch football for entertainment value. I was thoroughly enterained last night. If the Eagles make it interesting and give me a few more good weeks of fun NFL football, then I really don't care if they get bounced out. For the NFL now adays, all you need is a ticket to get in. Once someone gets into the playoffs, who knows. Homefield advantage used to be critical, but it has really lost its distinct 'advantage' in recent years. The Colts always got it, and got bounced. The Eagles had it and got bounced. Denver had it last year and got bounced. And with the way the NFC is, who really fargin' knows anymore. It should at least be entertaining.
I couldn't imagine sitting through 16 games like they played against the Tennesee Titans; or any losses that they had this season -- all of them have been horribly played.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Again... chance of what? Sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round?
What team in the NFC can't the Eagles play with? The mighty Bears almost lost to the Nyucks yesterday. AT HOME.
The Eagles almost beat New Orleans on their turf, they beat Dallas, Atlanta's garbage, Seattle's a joke. . . on and on it goes.
Quote from: Eaglez on December 18, 2006, 12:34:27 PM
But 0-16 wouldn't be fun to watch at all. We watch football for entertainment value. I was thoroughly enterained last night. If the Eagles make it interesting and give me a few more good weeks of fun NFL football, then I really don't care if they get bounced out. For the NFL now adays, all you need is a ticket to get in. Once someone gets into the playoffs, who knows. Homefield advantage used to be critical, but it has really lost its distinct 'advantage' in recent years. The Colts always got it, and got bounced. The Eagles had it and got bounced. Denver had it last year and got bounced. And with the way the NFC is, who really fargin' knows anymore. It should at least be entertaining.
I couldn't imagine sitting through 16 games like they played against the Tennesee Titans; or any losses that they had this season -- all of them have been horribly played.
totally agreed. the line of thinking like this...
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Again... chance of what? Sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round?
...is just not any fun. it takes the enjoyment out of it. they may get bounced in the wildcard game in the playoffs. or they may win. no one friggin knows.
i didnt watch more than an couple of minutes of the playoffs last year. the birds getting it, potentially extends the enjoyment of football season 1 more week.
there are a handful of people that are still silently hoping the birds to lose so that they may be right on some issues that they were so definitively adament about. for example...1-that andy reid has lost this team. well it's shown now that that's crap, he hasnt lost this team. 2-that the 3 game road trip in december vs division opponents will kill them and they have no chance unless they start 6-2...again...crap.
a game like yesterday is why i watch the birds to begin with. and i want to see that for as long as possible.
i dont think, as of right now, the defense is something i would call close to a championship calibur defense. but that doesnt mean i am not rooting for them to make the playoffs
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Again... chance of what? Sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round?
I'm saying it's easy for you and others to say oh we don't have any chance, than saying we do. Don't give people shtein on here when they look at it positively. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, the people who bitch and moan and then bash others know who they are.
actually, it's the positive people who start shtein with people who dont' think like them. i don't care what anybody blieves, but when they start criticizing me for not thinking like them, we have a problem.
Big ups to Darwin Walker. It only took a hundred some running plays for him to get a good game under his belt. :yay
p.s. - I still want you gone Darwin
Yeah. But I mean that game last night was one of the best NFL games generally I've seen in a while. All the lead changes, both teams answering the other team's drive, the magnitude of the game, etc. It was just very fun to watch. If the Eagles play with the same intensity, same great playcalling (yes, the playcalling was very good -- I think even naysayers have to give some credit that the coaching staff called a very good game), and play with confidence, they are an extremely entertaining football team. Too bad we didn't see this type of play earlier this year, but better late than never. Fortunately, too, the rest of the NFC hasn't exactly been lighting it up all year too.
Could the Eagles lay an egg against the Cowboys? Sure. Even with such a good win in such a hostile environment I still don't know if this team with respond consistently. However, with only two games left and the Eagles playing with a good deal of confidence, I think that they probably will play very well next week. Whether playing very well will be enough to pull off another win in Dallas is another question.
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:52:58 PM
I'm saying it's easy for you and others to say oh we don't have any chance, than saying we do. Don't give people shtein on here when they look at it positively. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, the people who bitch and moan and then bash others know who they are.
The bottom line is that this team has not proved me wrong about anything yet. I said "season over" as soon as any chance to win the Super Bowl was lost, and I still believe that is true. The Giants are an injury-riddled team, and the Eagles should have cleaned their clocks in week 2, but failed. So, they made up for that.
You're right that it's "easy" to say you were wrong if you predict failure for the team you root for, but I'd have to counter and say it's pretty farging stupid if you believe all along, no matter what.
You still banking on an NBA title and a Stanley Cup for this year's Philly teams?
Quote from: SunMo on December 18, 2006, 12:54:42 PM
actually, it's the positive people who start shtein with people who dont' think like them. i don't care what anybody blieves, but when they start criticizing me for not thinking like them, we have a problem.
Listen to this man.
QuoteEagles | Fast fact: Barber brothers versus Philly
Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:02:46 -0800
New York Giants RB Tiki Barber touched the football 52 times against the Philadelphia Eagles in two games during the 2006 season, scoring one touchdown along the way. His twin brother, Tampa Bay Buccaneers CB Ronde Barber, touched the football two times in one game versus Philadelphia and scored two touchdowns.
ha
Three weeks ago I thought the season was toast. It might still be for all we know. If the Birds win the last two games, I'll be a shocked but ecstatic motherfarger, though.
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Thanks for that pearl of wisdom Pollyanna.
What the hell? :paranoid
P.S. I still can't believe the three rushing TD's yesterday...
3rd and Goal from the 2 - They RUN THE BALL and score the TD.
4th and Goal from inside the 1 - They decide against the FG, RUN THE BALL, and score the TD.
3rd and 2 from the 28 - They RUN THE BALL for the first down, and Westbrook gets into the end zone for the TD.
I mean... who's coaching this team? They're actually choosing to run the ball when it makes sense to do so, and they're having success with it too. It's a nice change of pace.
Its easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
this year it is
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 01:49:49 PM
P.S. I still can't believe the three rushing TD's yesterday...
3rd and Goal from the 2 - They RUN THE BALL and score the TD.
4th and Goal from inside the 1 - They decide against the FG, RUN THE BALL, and score the TD.
3rd and 2 from the 28 - They RUN THE BALL for the first down, and Westbrook gets into the end zone for the TD.
I mean... who's coaching this team? They're actually choosing to run the ball when it makes sense to do so, and they're having success with it too. It's a nice change of pace.
Like I said earlier... it shocked the hell out of me when FOX put up the play selection chart and it showed that we had 22 rushes and 19 passes. Thought I was in the twilight zone.
I was watching the game with a friend of mine (a Giants fan) and I know he got tired of me screaming, "Look at what happens when you run the ball!"
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:52:58 PM
I'm saying it's easy for you and others to say oh we don't have any chance, than saying we do. Don't give people shtein on here when they look at it positively. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, the people who bitch and moan and then bash others know who they are.
The bottom line is that this team has not proved me wrong about anything yet. I said "season over" as soon as any chance to win the Super Bowl was lost, and I still believe that is true. The Giants are an injury-riddled team, and the Eagles should have cleaned their clocks in week 2, but failed. So, they made up for that.
You're right that it's "easy" to say you were wrong if you predict failure for the team you root for, but I'd have to counter and say it's pretty farging stupid if you believe all along, no matter what.
You still banking on an NBA title and a Stanley Cup for this year's Philly teams?
Quote from: SunMo on December 18, 2006, 12:54:42 PM
actually, it's the positive people who start shtein with people who dont' think like them. i don't care what anybody blieves, but when they start criticizing me for not thinking like them, we have a problem.
Listen to this man.
Oh I agree totally. Like I said, I'm not pointing anyone out, including you. I just think the team deserves some credit for the level of play the past few weeks. It's just getting old having to read through pages of agrueing to get to the beef and potaotes.
No.
Just a heads up:
NFL Replay will air the Eagles/Giants wednesday night at 8.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 18, 2006, 11:07:14 AM
I was listening to Chris Carter on Sirius radio this morning, and he makes a great point - not only did the Eagles execute well, but they had an amazing game plan going into the game. As a number of others have pointed out (sarcastically), the Giants were actually SURPRISED for a number of plays. Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for the Westbrook-Buck 2 back set?
Also, it was nice to have a QB out there who feels like a Philly QB. I like the fire and the passion. No giggling after throwing a pick. No whiney-faced expressions when someone runs the wrong route or misses a block. Right in their face, getting the job done. McNabb may be a better athlete and probably a better QB, but Garcia is leading this team.
The Giants were surprised? Weren't we all? Not only running the ball but running it well. Am I the only one that was staring at the TV in disbelief when Buck ran the ball for the first TD? Am I the only one that still can't believe that after three 1st and goal running plays they still ran it on 4th down? How many times have they passed on 3rd and 2? This time there was a hole big enough I could have ran through it. (Then I would have handed the ball to Westbrook for the score) An effective running game! My God! Third and 2 and we didn't have to pass? On the goal line and it wasn't 3 pass plays and a FG? What is going on?
The fire and bad ass attitude is what I noticed the most. Looks like it might be having an effect on some of the rest of the team. That is a big difference between Garcia and McNabb. Dawk and Garcia need to knock some badass into McNabbs head. It also looked like Andy had some attitude Sun. He seemed a lot more animated and PO'd than normal. Instaed of standing on the sideline with a blank look on his face, he was actually gettin after people. That was good to see.
Seems to me that Garcia has lit a fire under Andys butt that I've never seen when McNabb is on the field.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
I would just like to give a big farg you to all the fans who didn't give the Eagles a chance. That is all :flipoff
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
I would just like to give a big farg you to all the fans who didn't give the Eagles a chance. That is all :flipoff
...a chance for what? Does anyone give a shtein about making the playoffs anymore?
Uh yeah. I give a shtein about making the playoffs. If you make the playoffs you have a chance of winning a game. And if you win that one you have a chance of winning another one. And if by chance you win em all you're champs. If you don't make the playoffs you have no chance. And don't bother. I know all the reasons why it couldn't possibly happen. But if we're in theres a chance, if we're not in theres no chance.
Quote from: Eagles 3x on December 18, 2006, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 11:54:51 AM
I would just like to give a big farg you to all the fans who didn't give the Eagles a chance. That is all :flipoff
...a chance for what? Does anyone give a shtein about making the playoffs anymore?
Uh yeah. I give a shtein about making the playoffs. If you make the playoffs you have a chance of winning a game. And if you win that one you have a chance of winning another one. And if by chance you win em all you're champs. If you don't make the playoffs you have no chance. And don't bother. I know all the reasons why it couldn't possibly happen. But if we're in theres a chance, if we're not in theres no chance.
(http://www.garnersclassics.com/pics/dumb/bighat.jpg)
So you're saying there's a chance?
aeh yahh, ah reckon chances are thats what I'm sayin.
I didn't give the Eagles a chance and I'm sorry for that. But how could I not with the recent play prior to the Carolina and Washington games. Even then they were very unimpressive. It's sad when we're even winning that it's hard to get excited about the team. Yesterday was the first time probably since the first Cowboys game this team has played with any sort of emotion and heart. If they can continue this and stay hot we could see a nice run in the playoffs.
San Diego Chargers are about the only constant winner each and every week. They are dominant in all aspects of the game.
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 18, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: mussa on December 18, 2006, 12:23:15 PMIts easier to say we have no chance than it is to say we do.
Again... chance of what? Sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the first round?
How about a chance at a first round bye followed by playing Atlanta or the Giants.
.....sounds like a chance at another NFC championship game.
............how about playing a Bears team with a QB who doesn\'t puke but actually shteins himself when blitzed hard.
..................how about a chance at the SB.
The Eagles could be the lucky NFC team to have their rear ends handed to them by the Chargers! :D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 18, 2006, 05:02:42 PM
The Eagles could be the lucky NFC team to have their rear ends handed to them by the Chargers! :D
The Eagles are the only team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers, proven by when they held LT to something like seven total rushing yards last year. Therefore, the Eagles are the 2007 Super Bowl Champions!
It was a great win, but I'm still not to confident about them winning if they make the playoffs. If they can beat Dallas and Atlanta, I'll feel much better about thier chances. They have three straight wins, but two were against the worst two teams in the league. And after yesterday, and the way the Giants have looked so inconsistant, who is to say they aren't right down there with the Skins and Carolina? I'm still not shore the Eagles can stop the run. They seemed to hold the Giants running game in the second half, but I want to see them do it for more than two quarters.
The NFC is a crap shoot. Just about any team in the playoff chase has a chance to get in the Championship game, imo.
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
If they can beat Dallas and Atlanta, I'll feel much better about thier chances.
so, if they make the playoffs, you'll feel better about their chances to make the playoffs?
Quote from: SunMo on December 18, 2006, 05:10:16 PM
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
If they can beat Dallas and Atlanta, I'll feel much better about thier chances.
so, if they make the playoffs, you'll feel better about their chances to make the playoffs?
He was talking aboot winning once in the playoffs (which is inevitable).
point taken
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
They have three straight wins, but two were against the worst two teams in the league. .
The Oakland Raiders called and they laughed at your suggestion that they aren't one of the worst two teams in the league.
I think Randy Moss even giggled a little bit.
If the Raiders played in the NFC, they'd still be in the hunt for a play off birth.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 18, 2006, 08:49:51 PM
If the Raiders played in the NFC, they'd still be in the hunt for a play off birth.
Sad but true - Metallica
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 18, 2006, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: SunMo on December 18, 2006, 05:10:16 PM
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
If they can beat Dallas and Atlanta, I'll feel much better about thier chances.
so, if they make the playoffs, you'll feel better about their chances to make the playoffs?
He was talking aboot winning once in the playoffs (which is inevitable).
Yes, thats exactly what I meant. Not that Sunfo cares, he gave up on this season weeks ago.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 18, 2006, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 05:06:09 PM
They have three straight wins, but two were against the worst two teams in the league. .
The Oakland Raiders called and they laughed at your suggestion that they aren't one of the worst two teams in the league.
I think Randy Moss even giggled a little bit.
Sorry, the two worst teams in the NFC. Not that the taterskins are any better than Oakland.
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 11:02:11 PM
Yes, thats exactly what I meant. Not that Sunfo cares, he gave up on this season weeks ago.
YES! you nailed me exactly....
that's why i drove 3 hours to go see them at FedEx...douche
Quote from: SunMo on December 19, 2006, 08:54:19 AM
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 11:02:11 PM
Yes, thats exactly what I meant. Not that Sunfo cares, he gave up on this season weeks ago.
YES! you nailed me exactly....
that's why i drove 3 hours to go see them at FedEx...douche
I drove 6 hrs. Up hill. Both ways.
in the snow!
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Quote from: SunMo on December 19, 2006, 08:54:19 AM
Quote from: shorebird on December 18, 2006, 11:02:11 PM
Yes, thats exactly what I meant. Not that Sunfo cares, he gave up on this season weeks ago.
YES! you nailed me exactly....
that's why i drove 3 hours to go see them at FedEx...douche
You should have stayed there. Don't even try and act like your trying to climb back on the bandwagon after the way you ripped everyone who still thought the Eagles were in it when you gave up like a little sissy choir boy....asswipe.
Really though, what can be said about beating the Giants except that it's a division win? It's just not that impressive to me. The Giants are a team that is on a big downslide, comparable to the taterskins. I blame coaching. How can they be so inconsistant with all that talent?
Quote from: shorebird on December 20, 2006, 06:27:40 AM
You should have stayed there. Don't even try and act like your trying to climb back on the bandwagon after the way you ripped everyone who still thought the Eagles were in it when you gave up like a little sissy choir boy....asswipe.
Really though, what can be said about beating the Giants except that it's a division win? It's just not that impressive to me. The Giants are a team that is on a big downslide, comparable to the taterskins. I blame coaching. How can they be so inconsistant with all that talent?
So, you want to angrily toss all the fans who rightfully reduced the chances of doing anything significant... but you're going to go ahead and give the team zero credit for beating the Giants in the Meadowlands?
I think you're due for a dose of your magic happy pills, shorebird.
Quote from: shorebird on December 20, 2006, 06:27:40 AM
You should have stayed there. Don't even try and act like your trying to climb back on the bandwagon after the way you ripped everyone who still thought the Eagles were in it when you gave up like a little sissy choir boy....asswipe.
"a little sissy choir boy"? what grade are you in, cvnt? if you're going to attempt to insult me, you need to come better than that.
and stop with the "bandwagon" shtein. the fact that you accept the mere theory of a bandwagon proves you are a fairweather fan. there is no such thing as a "bandwagon" to true fans like me. and just because I don't think they can win a particular game (and i'd like proof that i said as much) doesn't change the fact that i root 100x harder than you ever will.
too bad i root 101x bigger than all of you
SUCKAS!!!
Infinity + 1!1
Ok, can we cool it with all the "true fan" bull? I don't think there is a phrase that pisses me off more than that one. It's farging stupid. True fans do this, true fans do that. STFU! There is no particular thing that true fans do except follow the team, get pissed when they lose and are happy when they win. Anything else is just gravy.
I was saying during the weeks before McNabb got hurt that this team is going no where this year. And I'll still say it now. Even if this team makes it in the playoffs, they are not good enough to walk right through the playoffs and compete for a SB like we've been used to seeing out of them in recent years. The Eagles are not a dominant team right now and they've done nothing over the last 8 weeks or so to make me think otherwise. The only thing they've got going for them is the fact that there isn't much that seperates the top from the bottom in the NFC. The Eagles are basically only 3 plays away from being an 11-3 team right now. That's how even the NFC is right now.
But does that mean I'm sitting at home rooting against them? No. Does that mean I'm not watching the games? No. Hell, I've flown across the country and back this year to watch them play. I've driven 1000 miles round trip on 3 seperate weekends simply to watch them play. And I've done all this knowing that this is nothing more than an average football team at best. Why? Because after all the years of me following this team from the west coast and mid west, I'm finally close enough to make it to a few extra games regardless of whether they're any good or not.
SunMo ditched his friggin wife the day before their anniversary to go to the Skins game. I haven't heard him say anything bad about his wife so I can only assume that he kind of likes her which means that he probably places more emphasis on his anniversary then, say I did when I was married. Just because he or I may look at this team and see it for what it is or have a less than positive outlook on their future for this season does not mean that he, I or anyone else isn't a "true fan."
So farging stop it with the "you aren't a true fan" or "bandwagon fan" bullshtein because no one that posts here on a regular basis falls under either category.
True. Fan.
All the true fans are over at ExtremeRacists.
But does that mean I'm sitting at home rooting against them? No. Does that mean I'm not watching the games? No. Hell, I've flown across the country and back this year to watch them play. I've driven 1000 miles round trip on 3 seperate weekends simply to watch them play. And I've done all this knowing that this is nothing more than an average football team at best. Why?
because youre a true fan?
Nope. Just a fan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 20, 2006, 08:45:28 AM
SUCKAS!
First positivity, now Caps and punctuation? Someone definitely stole IGY's account.
Quote from: Cerevant on December 20, 2006, 10:55:24 AMFirst positivity, now Caps and punctuation? Someone definitely stole IGY's account.
i think he's hit the holiday cheer a little early, that's all.
All hail Sarge!
:yay
Quote from: T_Section224 on December 20, 2006, 11:09:29 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 20, 2006, 10:55:24 AMFirst positivity, now Caps and punctuation? Someone definitely stole IGY's account.
i think he's hit the holiday cheer a little early, that's all.
Well, next thing you know he'll be using the quote button. We can't handle that kind of mayhem around here!
Barber just scored on replay. Little does he know his team is going to lose! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
ha ha.
keep up the good work Beefy
We responded with the Bucky run. I can't get over what a great play call that was.
A run play? Brilliant!
I hope the Eagles win.
Homer.
At the half its 14-10. Andy went for it on fourth and goal with Westbrook up the gut and he jumped the pile and scored. Gnats drove the field and scored a FG! Lame!
Eagles look good though so far after a shaky start! I can't believe more people aren't watching.
Dawk's gonna get abused.
He's really lost a step. Last week was a fluke. The Giants are so much better than the Racists.
Shockey's going to have a big day. I just know it.
After just 1 catch for 5 yards in the first half... Team Stallworth promises a big second half from 1-8.
... and an even bigger half from Darren Howard.
I don't think anyone here thought the Eagles had a chance to win the Superbowl, but what pisses me off is that the few of us who thought they could actually win the division and make the playoffs get ripped to shreads here when they voice their opinions.
You want to talk real fan crap Sun Mo?? I was rooting for the Eagles while your Mom was still wiping the crap from your narrow little ass. You think driving to Fed Ex makes you more of a fan? I have the same trip when I go to Philly, and I've been to Fed Ex every year since it opened except for this year. Not to mention the fact I've been to the old stadium more times than I can count. So just sit around waiting for the Eagles to lose so you can spout all your 'I told you so' negative bullshtein while the rest of us who have a little hope actually enjoy the game of football.
You're all a bunch of bandwagoners
You're all a bunch of idiots.
I like pie.
Aww..poor shore got his panties in a bunch. Poor widdwe babeee.
he gets mad when people operate in reality
I must be staring at that water hole in Africa too much because when I first read Dio's post above, I could have sworn he called shorebird a wildebeeste.
Bullshtein. I know for a fact there are people here who won't post anything positive because they don't want to get labled a homer or get blasted.
Reality is that the negative people here were all wrong, just like I was wrong about Garcia. But you will never hear any of them admit it. Any team in the NFC that makes the playoffs has a shot at the Superbowl.
Quote from: shorebird on December 21, 2006, 10:59:40 AM
Reality is that the negative people here were all wrong, just like I was wrong about Garcia. But you will never hear any of them admit it. Any team in the NFC that makes the playoffs has a shot at the Superbowl.
:yay :yay :yay :) :) :)
Quote from: shorebird on December 21, 2006, 10:59:40 AM
Bullshtein. I know for a fact there are people here who won't post anything positive because they don't want to get labled a homer or get blasted.
Reality is that the negative people here were all wrong, just like I was wrong about Garcia. But you will never hear any of them admit it. Any team in the NFC that makes the playoffs has a shot at the Superbowl.
shut up, crybaby
wrong about what....one game?...i thought theyd get clobbered by the giants...i was wrong...at the start of the year tho i said they could come last in the divison or first...but in the end theyd be 8-8 9-7...
in the last month and a half besides the giants last week theyve beaten carolina and the skins...and everyone is now supposed to be aboird the superbowl train....beat dallas and atlanta then maybe you can start a bandwagon...but as of now they are an average team in a horrid conference...they are in far worse shape than they were when they were getting home field for three straight seasons and we all know how that turned out
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2006, 11:18:53 AM
wrong about what....one game?...i thought theyd get clobbered by the giants...i was wrong...at the start of the year tho i said they could come last in the divison or first...but in the end theyd be 8-8 9-7...
fact
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2006, 11:18:53 AM
wrong about what....one game?
You wish that was the only prediction you made...
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 01, 2006, 08:27:49 AM
i dont mean the skins will necessarily blow them out...i mean they are going down in all three of those road games...fact
Well on your way to being 0-fer on that one.
Here's another winner - found it when I was searching for the above:
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2006, 08:24:14 PM
im on record as saying any of the four teams can win the division this year but that i believe the taterskins have the best team and will win it
Wow...he actually hedged.
Really, you need to get out of the prediction game. You have no farging clue.
fact
CF is obsessed with IGY...
fact
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2006, 11:18:53 AM
wrong about what....one game?...i thought theyd get clobbered by the giants...i was wrong...at the start of the year tho i said they could come last in the divison or first...but in the end theyd be 8-8 9-7...
in the last month and a half besides the giants last week theyve beaten carolina and the skins...and everyone is now supposed to be aboird the superbowl train....beat dallas and atlanta then maybe you can start a bandwagon...but as of now they are an average team in a horrid conference...they are in far worse shape than they were when they were getting home field for three straight seasons and we all know how that turned out
One game?? What about the Skins. If you didn't think that the Skins would have beaten the Eagles both games, then why did you bet on them? Don't get me wrong, I'll take your money either way, but I don't understand why you would bet on the Skins if you didn't think they would win.
You were wrong about the Skins, and the 'much improved' NFC East altogether.
And way to go out on a limb saying the Eagles would finish first or last. If they come in second, does that mean you were wrong about that also??
You were so wrong it's just plain friggen' wrong.
IGY was also wrong when he bet me that the Skins would finish with a better record than the Skins.
Quote from: shorebird on December 21, 2006, 12:13:11 PM
IGY was also wrong when he bet me that the Skins would finish with a better record than the Skins.
???
;)
Sorry, I meant that the Skins would finish with a better record than the EAGLES
Quote from: shorebird on December 21, 2006, 10:59:40 AM
Any team in the NFC that makes the playoffs has a shot at the Superbowl.
I agree with this.
Quote from: SunMo on December 21, 2006, 11:59:00 AM
CF is obsessed with IGY...
fact
He may be a troll, but he's OUR troll.
BTW, pot...meet kettle. We all know he is your hero as you take every opportunity to remind us.
One game?? What about the Skins. If you didn't think that the Skins would have beaten the Eagles both games, then why did you bet on them? Don't get me wrong, I'll take your money either way, but I don't understand why you would bet on the Skins if you didn't think they would win.
because id rather lose money and beat the skins than win money and be miserable...and if the eagles lose at least i have some dolla dolla bills to wipe the tears...
i will make those three bets with you every year for the rest of my life and hope i lose all three...what i think or dont think about the skins or eagles will never change how on bet on them...that being said i honestly did think the skins would be better than the eagles this year tho not necessarily sweep them
Really, you need to get out of the prediction game.
do we really wanna get in the search engine lets see every prediction everyone has ever made in the history of their life game...kinda gay if you ask me but we can go joint for joint and youre gonna come out on the losing end more often than not
so i got a couple individual games wrong...WTF was i thinking...how dare igy doesnt go 16-0...maybe ill do quick search of all the things ive been right on...be kinda cool...only i dont have the time to weed thru all the results
CF is obsessed with IGY...
fact
haters always tryin to knock the man down a notch or two to make themselves feel better...apparently they dont know bout the board pharmacist
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2006, 12:28:17 PM
do we really wanna get in the search engine lets see every prediction everyone has ever made in the history of their life game...kinda gay if you ask me but we can go joint for joint and youre gonna come out on the losing end more often than not
It isn't the predictions that make you an ass - it is the way you make them. Arrogance and condescension are not really endearing qualities, dig? Oh, and it was you who implied that you were only wrong about one game.
looks like a few people here have just finished a pack of now and haters.
We all know he is your hero as you take every opportunity to remind us.
seems like youre the one on the dills...checkin my profile earlier....searchin IGY posts...if i wasnt so scared id say it was almost cute
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 21, 2006, 12:42:59 PM
We all know he is your hero as you take every opportunity to remind us.
seems like youre the one on the dills...checkin my profile earlier....searchin IGY posts...if i wasnt so scared id say it was almost cute
:-* Baby dills are my favoritest.
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 21, 2006, 12:40:38 PM
looks like a few people here have just finished a pack of now and haters.
BOOOOOOOOOOO!
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 21, 2006, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 21, 2006, 12:40:38 PM
looks like a few people here have just finished a pack of now and haters.
BOOOOOOOOOOO!
I got it from the show One on One with Kyla Pratt. :-[ Even worse was I was watching it on the channel Noggin. :-[ :-[ Which my girlfriend forced me to watch instead of NFL Replay of the Iggs. :-[ :-[ :-[
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 21, 2006, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 21, 2006, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: Beef Rapp on December 21, 2006, 12:40:38 PM
looks like a few people here have just finished a pack of now and haters.
BOOOOOOOOOOO!
I got it from the show One on One with Kyla Pratt. :-[ Even worse was I was watching it on the channel Noggin. :-[ :-[ Which my girlfriend forced me to watch instead of NFL Replay of the Iggs. :-[ :-[ :-[
:-D Try watching it in the afternoon when they have all the programming for toddlers. :-X
Max and Ruby... Ruby and Max :puke
Quote from: Cerevant on December 21, 2006, 12:27:32 PM
BTW, pot...meet kettle. We all know he is your hero as you take every opportunity to remind us.
just lookin out for my boy
xoxoxoxox
knock it off, you're making us look like Romes
Rosie O'Donnell & Donald Trump made a sex tape.
Ben and J-Lo were Bennifer
Brad and Angelina are Brangelina
Rosie O'Donnell and Donald Trump = Rosie O'Donald
That's hott.
Sun Grillin You?
Sun Ho loves icegrillenewe
Baaaaaa
sun ho, LOLOLOLOLOL
you took my name and made it different to mock me, LOLOLOL
let me try, shoreGETAIDSANDDIEALONELYDEATHbird
Merry christmas everyone..
Shore, we get it you didnt give up on the team
Sunmo and the rest myself included didn think they'd get to this position. Its not that we as fans didnt want to be in this position but just didnt expect it based on past performances.
Let it go....
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 22, 2006, 09:18:15 AM
Merry christmas everyone..
Shore, we get it you didnt give up on the team
Sunmo and the rest myself included didn think they'd get to this position. Its not that we as fans didnt want to be in this position but just didnt expect it based on past performances.
Let it go....
Bah hum bug to you.
Quote from: SunMo on December 22, 2006, 09:08:55 AM
sun ho, LOLOLOLOLOL
you took my name and made it different to mock me, LOLOLOL
let me try, shoreGETAIDSANDDIEALONELYDEATHbird
Geez, thats pitiful, a waste of space on this board.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 22, 2006, 09:18:15 AM
Let it go....
I've tried, I can't. It's like asking Dio to let go of his bong.