- Westbrook sprained ankle.
Andy is PISSED. :o
"I did not have this team ready to go. This is my responsibility. This was embarassing. Poor football."
I've never heard him like this.
Penalties, dropped balls, we cannot have that. You will not win that way.
We will be in here tomorrow.
I have high expectations and we will not win playing this way.
Reporter " You said you willdo what you have to do, what do you need to do?"
Andy "You don't have to worry about that. I'll do it".
He's pissed off.
fargy Andy.
Jim Cramer from CNBC Mad Money is a guest on the PGL panel.
The PGL people (Barkann, Hebron, Cramer, Didinger) all believe that Andy is so pissed that things are going to change and people are going to lose their jobs.
Andy basically said this was a bad football team and it was an embarrassing display of football.
I like hearing the anger from him.
I hope he decides to go coach at BYU.
wow andy's mad.. good for him. hopefully he's pissed off enough to quit.
We all know that anger is going to subside and then when the Skins shove it up our asses in 2 weeks, he'll be back to the same ol' "I've got to get them in a better position..." bullshtein he always spews.
They always lose to Gruden, they always lose before the bye week, and they always win after the bye week. Changes will happen and they'll win the next two to get our hopes up again. Then they'll lose 6 straight... :P
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2006, 04:19:33 PM
They always lose to Gruden, they always lose before the bye week, and they always win after the bye week. Changes will happen and they'll win the next two to get our hopes up again. Then they'll lose 6 straight... :P
Exactly. 4-5 here we come.
6-10 looks like a wet dream right now. the way the Eagles are playing, they should have a win deducted.
They will beat Washington and Tennessee.
After seeing how ticked he was they will come out smoking. Now after those two games? Who knows. But they'll be 6-4
Not a playoff team. My hopes are now put on hold for this team until they find their hearts again.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:21:10 PM
They will beat Washington and Tennessee.
After seeing how ticked he was they will come out smoking. Now after those two games? Who knows. But they'll be 6-4
I understand where you are coming from, but I dont understand how anyone could have any confidence whatsoever in this team, regardless of who they are playing.
Barkann, who is an undercover McNabb hater, is being ridiculous. 'I thought I was watching Pederson's backup'.
Jim Cramer, Ray Didinger and Vaughn Hebron have called him on it. He always makes snide remarks about McNabb.
DGunn ripping Buckhalter and the team and Buck is laughing like this is funny....
Buckhalter:
"At this point we suck. We are not getting it done."
DGunn reports that Reid is making the team practice this week and they have to be in there tomorrow.
DGunn asks "How can you not come out with fire?"
Buck: "I wish I could explain it. The little things we're doing are hurting. Guys not playing with fire. Penalties, not paying attention."
Jamaal Jackson: "We are just making too many mistakes."
Gunn: "what is going on with the mistakes?"
Jackson: "I don't have an answer for that. We just have to find a way to get it right. We will find a way to turn this aroud"
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:21:10 PM
They will beat Washington and Tennessee.
After seeing how ticked he was they will come out smoking. Now after those two games? Who knows. But they'll be 6-4
I'd love to feel that way Phreak. I really would.
But today was their game to come out smoking. Today was the game they needed to stop a 2 game slide, avoid going .500, and get back into the NFC East race playing at home against a banged up JAX team without their starting QB fresh off a beatdown from the Houston farging Texans.
Instead... they came out and flat out quit. What reason is there to believe that in 2 weeks, things will be any different?
Because I cannot believe that this team will keep on losing. I just can't. They look so poor right now but I just cant see it continuing. I'm grasping at straws here but until its over I just can't give up.
My last bit of hope is that this bye week + Andy's wrath will fix this.
Will Peterson will be our new leader.
Hail Peterson!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
Because I cannot believe that this team will keep on losing. I just can't. They look so poor right now but I just cant see it continuing. I'm grasping at straws here but until its over I just can't give up.
My last bit of hope is that this bye week + Andy's wrath will fix this.
I really hope that you are right Phreak. Hope is looking pretty thin right now around Phildelphia.
So, if the Eagles finish, say, 6-10, what happens?
Is Reid gone?
Is Johnson gone?
Is Morningwhig/wheg/whatever the heck it is gone?
Is Heckert gone?
Or will they let go of the insignificant db coach and call it a day?
Also, what's the worse sign: That the Eagles are playing with so little intensity, or that it's rubbed off on me and I'm just not caring that much?
Heck - three losses in a row, and nothing's broken.
Quote from: AP on October 29, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
Because I cannot believe that this team will keep on losing. I just can't. They look so poor right now but I just cant see it continuing. I'm grasping at straws here but until its over I just can't give up.
My last bit of hope is that this bye week + Andy's wrath will fix this.
I really hope that you are right Phreak. Hope is looking pretty thin right now around Phildelphia.
I hope so too. :-\
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 29, 2006, 04:38:59 PM
So, if the Eagles finish, say, 6-10, what happens?
WR drafted in the first or second round along with a lineman.
A few things:
1. People are going to blame this loss on the final drive with McNabb. it had ZEROOOO to do with this game. ZERO. This loss was 90% on Andy and JJ. The 10% on the players for lack of fire, you can't let them completely off the hook.
2. Darwin Walker has been TOTAL BUM since the Dallas game. Getting moved off the ball like he is Pinkston's weight.
3. How can this team go into a game where they KNOW a one-dimensional Jags team will only win if they can run the ball and they STILL let them. I might be starting to lean toward firing JJ. The offense was disgusting, but.... the defense man. It was bad too. You let a one-dimensional team beat you up and down the farging field.
Something needs to happen. McNabb is supposed to be in his 'prime', so these are the years where they need to make their run.
However, McNabb being Mr. Inconsistent didn't have a stellar game today either.
The WR's, though, are absolutely crappy right now. Reggie Brown needs to be taken out back and beaten. The kid cannot be consistent. No way can he ever emerge as a #1.
i am really starting to think that mcnabb is not all that bright.
Oh and can someone PLEASE farging tackle on first contact. PLEASE?????????
PLEASE!!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: AP on October 29, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
Because I cannot believe that this team will keep on losing. I just can't. They look so poor right now but I just cant see it continuing. I'm grasping at straws here but until its over I just can't give up.
My last bit of hope is that this bye week + Andy's wrath will fix this.
I really hope that you are right Phreak. Hope is looking pretty thin right now around Phildelphia.
I hope so too. :-\
Like I said... I want to believe that too. But this team at this point seems to care so little about the way things are going, I can't say with any kind of certainty that they'll jsut wake up.
3 farging L's in a row for the 1st time in 10 years.
I hate to say it, Phreak, but I'll believe it when I see it.
And GF, you're unfortunately probably right. For AR it will be business as usual. And the league has caught up to his tricks. Business as usual won't cut it.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 29, 2006, 04:44:08 PM
i am really starting to think that mcnabb is not all that bright.
His Wonderlic showed that....
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
A few things:
1. People are going to blame this loss on the final drive with McNabb. it had ZEROOOO to do with this game. ZERO.
The sacks he took after sitting in the pocket for 30 seconds had something to do with it.
Considine:
"Its not just one thing. Every guy on the roster has to look himself in the eye and get it done. And we are not doing thigs to win football games now."
"We need to ask ourselves why we are not getting it done."
Cut to McNabb;
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
A few things:
1. People are going to blame this loss on the final drive with McNabb. it had ZEROOOO to do with this game. ZERO.
The sacks he took after sitting in the pocket for 30 seconds had something to do with it.
We weren't going to move the ball anyway. That was 50/50 on McNabb. No one got open. Overall that had nothing to do with the loss. This team couldn't move the ball regardless. So even if he threw it away, we just punt anyway.
McNabb:
"For us to come out and not move the football, I never envisioned that"
"This was embarrassing"
"We did not start fast. This was embarrassing. This will not happen again"
Q: How do you know it won't happen again?
"I will make sure of it".
Things need to start at the top and filter down. McNabb's never been consistent on a regular basis, but he's a far better QB then he showed today. However Reid's shown that he can't coach worth a damn when a team comes out and takes it to him. He can't adjust and refuses to change anything and says the same shtein year after year.
I was absolutely not surprised at ALL to see the team go 3 and out on a continual basis to start this game. In fact I fully expected it because Reid doesn't know how to set up a decent game plan. The largest O-line in the league and he barely runs the ball. And he started out running on 3rd and ridiculously long after trying to pass the first couple of plays of the series. It makes no sense.
The Jags two best d-line men are out leaving the middle weaker than normal and he's calling passes all freakin' day. They go down by a touchdown at the start of the game and go pass crazy.
When they finally have some success running the ball and start picking up yards, what does Ried do? After a few positive gains he starts wanting to wing the ball all over the field again. He's just not a good coach at this point because he can't adjust to the on the field situations.
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
A few things:
1. People are going to blame this loss on the final drive with McNabb. it had ZEROOOO to do with this game. ZERO.
The sacks he took after sitting in the pocket for 30 seconds had something to do with it.
We weren't going to move the ball anyway. That was 50/50 on McNabb. No one got open. Overall that had nothing to do with the loss. This team couldn't move the ball regardless. So even if he threw it away, we just punt anyway.
He could have run the farging ball. That would have moved the ball. Especially since it's 4th and 5 in JAX territory. If nothing's there... RUN! David farging Garrard understood that, McNabb should have at some point, himself.
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
A few things:
1. People are going to blame this loss on the final drive with McNabb. it had ZEROOOO to do with this game. ZERO.
The sacks he took after sitting in the pocket for 30 seconds had something to do with it.
We weren't going to move the ball anyway. That was 50/50 on McNabb. No one got open. Overall that had nothing to do with the loss. This team couldn't move the ball regardless. So even if he threw it away, we just punt anyway.
Then look to run. McNabb has crossed that gray area. He's so afraid to being labled an "athletic black quarterback" that he's nearly become one dimensional.
I was willing to blame it on the injury last year, but it's really been little different this year. McNabb wants to be Dan Marino, and he just isn't. He needs to be Donovan McNabb.
Oh, and get some FREAKING RECEIVERS THAT CAN CATCH THE DAMN BALL! :boom
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:49:58 PM
McNabb:
Q: How do you know it won't happen again?
"I will make sure of it".
Good answer. ::) How about throwing the football away or *gasp* running instead of standing back there for 20 seconds and running backwards and getting sacked.
Q: When you say you will not let this happen, what will you do?
"I just won't let it happen again."
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
3 farging L's in a row for the 1st time in 10 years.
1999 was fewer than 10 years ago.
Just sayin'
He did run. Not as much as he should, but cmon. The WRs still need to get open. You can't let them off the hook. If they got open he wouldn't have needed to run. I agree, McNabb didn't play well. But we didn't lose because of him. In a long list of reasons why we lost, he is near the bottom. The coaching staff tops the list. Terribly coached and terribly prepared.
"We have to put 4 quarters together. We need to get it done now"
There are no good answers today. There are no answers, period.
They have two weeks to get ready for Washington. They'd better damn well be ready.
I'm predicting a 3-9 loss for that week.
When McNabb was sacked, there really wasn't anywhere TO run. He should have thrown the ball away.
He ran when he saw openings. To slam him for not running more and calling him one-dimensional is retarded.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
3 farging L's in a row for the 1st time in 10 years.
1999 was fewer than 10 years ago.
Just sayin'
Only 7? Whew!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 04:54:48 PM
To slam him for not running more and calling him one-dimensional is retarded.
Yeah, I'll slam him for not being able to hit anyone in stride all game instead.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 04:54:48 PM
When McNabb was sacked, there really wasn't anywhere TO run. He should have thrown the ball away.
You obviously had a better view being at the game, but it was a 3 man rush if I'm remembering the play right (I'm not going to try and find it right now) why couldn't he run? Were the linebackers squatting 5 yards out because from what you could see other than the D line there was NO ONE there and 5 yards for McNabb isn't that hard to get when he tries.
And yes, he should have thrown the ball away... he should do that a lot instead of taking so many sacks.
Or watching the balls, when placed correctly, bounce off of guys hands.
That is the most frustrating thing to me. The farging dropped passes. They lead the NFL in them and frankly it is ridiculous.
DGunn reporting that they will practice at least 3 days this week plus coming in on Monday to watch film and get chewed out.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 04:54:48 PM
When McNabb was sacked, there really wasn't anywhere TO run. He should have thrown the ball away.
He ran when he saw openings. To slam him for not running more and calling him one-dimensional is retarded.
Bull. He was sitting back behind a bunched up line in the middle of the field and he had the outside on either side to move to. The ends hadn't even been able to get upfield. If nothing else, flow to a side and see if you can get somebody dragging across the field. If not, try to pick it up yourself.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:55:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
3 farging L's in a row for the 1st time in 10 years.
1999 was fewer than 10 years ago.
Just sayin'
Only 7? Whew!
Actually, 1996 was the last time the Eagles lost 3 in a row and still made the playoffs is what Spewdaro said.
The 4th and 6 in the first half McNabb had 7 seconds to pass, the O-line mauled the D line, and he had lanes to run. He didn't do it. He can be critcized for that play.
The whole team was poo too. And, even though they only gave up 86 yards passing, every single completion was key. Matt Jones' catch was a huge 3rd down conversion and Williams, I believe, had a huge catch for a 3rd down conversion.
They were destroyed in all facets of the game.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
Or watching the balls, when placed correctly, bounce off of guys hands.
That is the most frustrating thing to me. The farging dropped passes. They lead the NFL in them and frankly it is ridiculous.
Yup. Look, McNabb didn't have a good game. OBVIOUSLY.
However, lets remember that earlier in the game (starting from the first fargign play), drops AGAIN hurt any sort of momentum they COULD have gotten. Blame McNabb yes, but remember that there are OTHERS on the team the farged up and bad. Westbrook with drops, Brown (of course) with drops, etc.
The only play I will rip McNabb for not running is on that 4th and 5 when he took the sack. They had the Jags spread out and he had GREAT pass-pro. He should've ran it.
And for Jeremiah Trotter, the MLB, to only have 2 tackles and 1 assist against a team who ran as much as JAX did it PATHETIC and INEXCUSABLE.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 05:05:31 PM
The only play I will rip McNabb for not running is on that 4th and 5 when he took the sack. They had the Jags spread out and he had GREAT pass-pro. He should've ran it.
And for Jeremiah Trotter, the MLB, to only have 2 tackles and 1 assist against a team who ran as much as JAX did it PATHETIC and INEXCUSABLE.
I agree on the 4th and 6. But that wasn't the only sack.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
Or watching the balls, when placed correctly, bounce off of guys hands.
That is the most frustrating thing to me. The farging dropped passes. They lead the NFL in them and frankly it is ridiculous.
Yup. Look, McNabb didn't have a good game. OBVIOUSLY.
However, lets remember that earlier in the game (starting from the first fargign play), drops AGAIN hurt any sort of momentum they COULD have gotten. Blame McNabb yes, but remember that there are OTHERS on the team the farged up and bad. Westbrook with drops, Brown (of course) with drops, etc.
Don't get it twisted.
I'm not blaming McNabb for the game... or saying he was the sole reason we lost. I'd have a hard time finding anyone who DIDN'T have anything to do with the loss.
I was criticizing McNabb on that 4th down play where he took a loss. He's been blessed with the ability to make something out of nothing in those kind of situations and he seemed tp have a chance to do it and he didn't try. Hell, even if he was able to find a WR open, they probably would have just dropped it, anyway. But if nothing's there, he's got to TRY to pick up the yards himself.
Sheldon: "I'm gonna go be with my family because I sure could use their support right now."
Sheldon Brown;
"After that performance yeah, we need to get in here and practice and watch film"
DGunn trying to clown around with Sheldon asking him about his fur coat and he wasn't having none of it. Good job, Sheldon. Gunner is being a fool today. Him and Barkann.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
Or watching the balls, when placed correctly, bounce off of guys hands.
That is the most frustrating thing to me. The farging dropped passes. They lead the NFL in them and frankly it is ridiculous.
Yup. Look, McNabb didn't have a good game. OBVIOUSLY.
However, lets remember that earlier in the game (starting from the first fargign play), drops AGAIN hurt any sort of momentum they COULD have gotten. Blame McNabb yes, but remember that there are OTHERS on the team the farged up and bad. Westbrook with drops, Brown (of course) with drops, etc.
Don't get it twisted.
I'm not blaming McNabb for the game... or saying he was the sole reason we lost. I'd have a hard time finding anyone who DIDN'T have anything to do with the loss.
I was criticizing McNabb on that 4th down play where he took a loss. He's been blessed with the ability to make something out of nothing in those kind of situations and he seemed tp have a chance to do it and he didn't try. Hell, even if he was able to find a WR open, they probably would have just dropped it, anyway. But if nothing's there, he's got to TRY to pick up the yards himself.
You're missing my point.
There were posts calling McNabb one-dimensional and saying he is trying to hard to NOT be the running black QB. That, to me, is retarded. Considering he's been running more the past few games than he has in 3 years. I agree about that ONE sack.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 05:11:37 PM
You're missing my point.
There were posts calling McNabb one-dimensional and saying he is trying to hard to NOT be the running black QB. That, to me, is retarded. Considering he's been running more the past few games than he has in 3 years. I agree about that ONE sack.
OK.. we agree then. The sack on 4th down is all I took issue with.
Sometimes it seems like you can see the wheels turning on McNabb. He just needs to react more. And he looks hesitant in some situations.
I can think of two plays. The 4th and 6 and the INT he almost threw to the D-linemen. He was trying to direct traffic although nothing was there. Just get something positive when your team is struggling so mightily all day.
But, can't just put all the blame on McNabb. the team was utter garbage today. It was really a disgusting game to watch. What a waste.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 05:11:37 PM
You're missing my point.
There were posts calling McNabb one-dimensional and saying he is trying to hard to NOT be the running black QB. That, to me, is retarded. Considering he's been running more the past few games than he has in 3 years. I agree about that ONE sack.
OK.. we agree then. The sack on 4th down is all I took issue with.
Ditto.
no point in trying to find out who has been playing worse....the first few weeks our D was being scored on will while our offense was lighting it up. then our D...although still bad is at least holding teams to FGs and what does the offense do? COMPLETELY STOPS PLAYING. i just dont get it....and today the whole team was horrible. for the most part its been offense good defense bad or vice versa but today everyone sucked. OUR SPECIAL TEAMS ARE A JOKE. we dont cover well and we dont ever give the offense any decent field. on 3rd down our D always stinks it up. offensively we have WRs who just cant catch unless they are wide open down the field. wtf seriously reggie brown needs to learn the basics. where was lj smith today? the penalties and everything...im just so pissed right now...we have the same core and coaching from previous yrs...and yes ill agree reid always has has clock management problems but this is the least diciplined EAGLES team under reid ive seen. they either dont care or are just too dumb and keep getting dumb penalties AT HOME! wtf?
there is never any urgency. with 9 min to go in the 4rth...WHY DONT WE EVER HURRY UP? 9 MIN ISNT A LOT CONSIDERING HOW SLOW OFFENSE WAS MOVING. when under 2 MIN can we please attempt passes to the WRs instead of 2 yd dump offs to westbrook? he isnt going to break one every time like last week.
im as big a homer as anyone on this board but its going to take me a while b4 i can ever consider them winning the next 2...hellt he next game. and i even bough brand new eagles PJs last night....i was so psyched for this game cause i thought they would turn it around.
How the farg could NO ONE GET OPEN ALL DAY LONG?
I just don't get it.
ciao andy reid. as mark foley would say: It's time to turn over a new page.
Maybe Gruden will be fired after a bad season with the Bucs and we can bring him in. I doubt it though. Reid may have lost this team. They aren't responding anymore.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 04:14:06 PM
Jim Cramer from CNBC Mad Money is a guest on the PGL panel.
The PGL people (Barkann, Hebron, Cramer, Didinger) all believe that Andy is so pissed that things are going to change and people are going to lose their jobs.
Andy basically said this was a bad football team and it was an embarrassing display of football.
I like hearing the anger from him.
Who is going to lose there jobs? And even if people do, who is going to replace them. This team is so pathetic, I sat and watched this team with a heart full of rage. There was a hot waitress hitting on me the whole game and I didn't even care. I must be like the Eagles.
The Eagles are gay?
oh and i forgot in my rant where is our D LINE? what happened to the rotation? first few games we were bringing in 2 good lines in. we were getting pressure. the blitz was getting to the qb. where has the pressure gone? where has the blitz gone?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2006, 05:11:37 PM
There were posts calling McNabb one-dimensional and saying he is trying to hard to NOT be the running black QB. That, to me, is retarded. Considering he's been running more the past few games than he has in 3 years. I agree about that ONE sack.
Maybe I'm overreacting to the incredibly asinine play of the Eagles the past three weeks, but there hasn't been an isolated instance where McNabb once took a sack rather than run or throw.
When does he run? When nothing else has worked. When the Eagles are down and the offense is sputtering. And, though it's somewhat more than last year, I don't think he's running enough. Run in the beginning of the game. Run when ahead - make it a part of the attack.
I think the world of McNabb. But so often he takes a sack when he has a lane to run - or the time to throw the ball away, as others have said. He has an athletic gft that, if he used it more often, would make him an even more dangerous weapon for the Eagles. Don't try to be Peyton Manning. Don't try to be Dan Marino. Be the best Donovan McNabb he can be.
And please refrain from using "retarded" to describe anyone's post. It's degrading, and I especially take exception to it for personal reasons. Thank you.
i agree. we need to maybe even have some designed runs for mcnabb. back when we had no offense the defenses had to always assign one guy to him and worry about him taking off. if we did now, with a capable passing offense, we might be able to score in the first maybe.
Mike Lewis has turned into a bitch...
DGunn asked him why he wasn't starting as the final question of the interview and he says "ask the coach" and walks away.
Know why you're not starting, Mike? BECAUSE YOU SUCK. Accept that and realize you need to get better. Don't act all indignant about it. You were benched for a reason.
Toomer - TD
Horn - TD
Moulds - TD
Glenn - PI call
Even on his INT in the GB game he was beaten; if Favre gets air under it its a TD.
FYI:
Mike Patterson broke his hand and came back in to play.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 07:28:48 PM
FYI:
Mike Patterson broke his hand and came back in to play.
Patterson made less mistakes than the other DT's today. Team Patterson approves this message.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 29, 2006, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 07:28:48 PM
FYI:
Mike Patterson broke his hand and came back in to play.
Patterson made less mistakes than the other DT's today. Team Patterson approves this message.
That would be FEWER mistakes.
Now PG approves this message (after editing it, of course)
:P
grammar police alert
For the first time this season, the Eagles were consistant from the start of the game down to the very end. Kudos to Andy Reid for fixing that problem the offense had with over achieving the first 7 weeks of the season.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 29, 2006, 08:07:31 PM
For the first time this season, the Eagles were consistant from the start of the game down to the very end. Kudos to Andy Reid for fixing that problem the offense had with over achieving the first 7 weeks of the season.
That was thoroughly depressing. Thanks.
What exactly was the defensive line doing today? Jerking off? Standing around and collecting their paycheck? They sure weren't pass rushing and they weren't stopping the run either.
The D line hasn't done anything exciting since the Dallas game. But they're just playing along with everyone else on the team though.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 29, 2006, 08:14:10 PM
The D line hasn't done anything exciting since the Dallas game. But they're just playing along with everyone else on the team though.
the team for the most part hasnt done anything since dallas. the offense has tried frantically to comeback the past 2 weeks but as a team we havent done anything since dallas. i guess that was our season...our superbowl.
If you think about it, this is the EXACT same defense as last year except Darren Howard and McCoy starting. That is it. For a defense that was SO DREADFUL last season, they sure didn't make a lot of changes.
I hate to say it because he's in my top 3 favorite Eagles, but Trotter might be done. He never could pass cover, but now he's getting blown off the ball. That isn't the Trotter I know.
Dhani sucks and McCoy is average. We all knew that already. Also after the Dallas game our DTs have disappeared. Flat out. Can any DT make a play? No push, no run stoppage.
The only lineman working his ass off every play is Cole. He may not always get to the QB, but he is ALWAYS in on a play. Always goes loaded for bear.
Eskin on SportsFinal...
Andy screamed at the players at halftime and then really unloaded on them after the game. He said this was the first time that some of the players have ever seen him like that.
Eskin, Sikahema, Jade McCarthy and the biggest dooshbag in the Philly Media John Clark are arguing...
Clark says " I would sit a player or two"
And then when asked who he would sit, after not answering for about 5 minutes says "I wouldn't sit anyone"
The other three were ripping him pretty good.
That dude is a puppet.
McNabb's attitude towards losing (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=58611) is atrocious. I'm so sick of the way he barely even acknowledges when the team loses.
It's good to see the rest of you sharing in my disgust of this team. 3 months late, but at least you're not all quite as stupid as I had assumed.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2006, 08:09:55 AM
It's good to see the rest of you sharing in my disgust of this team. 3 months late, but at least you're not all quite as stupid as I had assumed.
I was disgusted after week 2 and used it to win money from SunMo.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 30, 2006, 08:12:06 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2006, 08:09:55 AM
It's good to see the rest of you sharing in my disgust of this team. 3 months late, but at least you're not all quite as stupid as I had assumed.
I was disgusted after week 2 and used it to win money from SunMo.
Don't let all that money go to your head and make your forget where you come from.
Andy screamed at the players at halftime and then really unloaded on them after the game. He said this was the first time that some of the players have ever seen him like that.
the players stopped listening to andy a long time ago...probably even before the TO debacle but either way that solidified it...he lost mad respect in the locker room after last year....as did donovan...its over andy you need a fresh start somewhere else
i'm sick & tired of finesse football...andy must go.
I echo Sheldon Brown's sentiments: Everyone is a grown man in that locker room, this is their profession, yet they cannot get up and go to work and perform at a high level at their profession. Someone shouldn't have to get you fired up, just playing the game and doing what you're doing should be plenty of motivation right there.
This team is a bunch of losers right now. They walk around with a 'whoa is me' attitude. Pretty sad from a bunch of adults who play a children's game for a living.
players have taken on the personality of the coach....thats what happens when youve been here for eight years...funny that the two guys who seem to care the most and have some fire inside of them above all others are dawk and trotter...and its not a coincidence that they predate andy
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 30, 2006, 07:50:35 AM
McNabb's attitude towards losing (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=58611) is atrocious. I'm so sick of the way he barely even acknowledges when the team loses.
This is the thing. It all starts with Andy's attitude.
Andy is so even keeled, win or lose and his team follows suit. That's all fine and well when they're winning, but when the Eagles are riding a two game losing streak and they need to call on some emotion to be able to respond in a desperate situation... they can't do it because they're so used to being so passive. Andy has had them sleepwalking all year
JAX realized the weight of sunday's game... and they dug down deep and came in prepared to TAKE this game. The Eagles were and still may be incapable of gathering that type of intensity.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 30, 2006, 07:50:35 AM
McNabb's attitude towards losing (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=58611) is atrocious. I'm so sick of the way he barely even acknowledges when the team loses.
Normally I would defend McNabb for being on the passive side after a loss.........or 3. But this comment of his made me absolutely furious:
Quote"It's definitely recoverable," said McNabb. "It can't get any worse. I think we're 4-4. It's just not us. The way that we've lost these particular games, you can pinpoint different plays in the game that possibly could've changed it. It's time to understand what it is and be able to change it now."
1. Yes, it can get worse and it will until YOU and just about everyone else on the team starts playing with some farging heart.
2. You think? It ain't that hard to keep track of. It's not like you're at the midway point of a MLB season where there's 162 games. Pay attention!
3. So because the Eagles aren't the only team at 4-4, that makes it all ok? No, it doesn't. All 4 losses are attributed to this team's lack of intensity, desire and PRIDE. They have no pride in themselves, at all. And it's apparent in the way they play.
Donnie Mac needs to pull his head out of his ass real quick because the offense is a direct representative of the QB who leads it. So knock off this "everything's gonna be alright" nonsense and start getting in people's asses. A comment was made by one of the commentators during the game after Brown dropped a pass about how McNabb didn't get in Brown's face or anything. And that's all well and good because I'm not a big fan of calling out your teammates in public. But at the same time, the next time someone drops a perfectly thrown ball I'd like to see McNabb grab them by the facemask or something and just get in their ass. It WILL send a message to the team.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2006, 12:55:37 PM
2. You think? It ain't that hard to keep track of. It's not like you're at the midway point of a MLB season where there's 162 games. Pay attention!
you took that part WAY out of context....watch the PC...it was more of a studder than "i think we're 4-4"
Quote from: Wingspan on October 30, 2006, 01:37:38 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2006, 12:55:37 PM
2. You think? It ain't that hard to keep track of. It's not like you're at the midway point of a MLB season where there's 162 games. Pay attention!
you took that part WAY out of context....watch the PC...it was more of a studder than "i think we're 4-4"
Fair enough.....it's hard to pick up on that stuff when it's written rather than heard. But it still doesn't change my opinions on the other 2 comments I made.
I don't think the issue with Andy is that he lost the team. Even if he can't fire up a team anymore, then the players should still be professional enough to be motivated for a football game. You should be fired up for every game.
I put that on the players, not Andy. I put other things on Andy like the playcalling, the prep, the adjustments, etc.
ofcourse some of us here have the insight to know that not only does reid not care about losing he has also lost the locker room and mcnabb still hasnt gotten the locker room back. its like a bad espn rumor mongering group.
Reid absolutely cares about losing. People only thing he doesn't because they moronically apply his press conference demeanor to his in the locker room demeanor. Both are totally different things. Andy wants to win and badly. Andy takes his job very seriously. There are a lot of things Andy is at fault for, but desire to win is not one. Not even close.
Well clearly you smartasses have insight into this that the rest of us do not.
Please, share the details of your intimate conversations with AR.
The point is that however badly he WANTS to win, he isn't doing it. And worse, he is failing with a very talented team. He is failing because of his own stubborn jackassery. So whether he really really wants to win or not makes no difference. It's time for a change. Stat.
Not time for a change yet. He gets the rest of the season to get on the rebound. If this team goes into the tank then we only replace Reid if there is someone out there better.
Quote from: King Cole on October 30, 2006, 06:56:42 PM
Reid absolutely cares about losing. People only thing he doesn't because they moronically apply his press conference demeanor to his in the locker room demeanor. Both are totally different things. Andy wants to win and badly. Andy takes his job very seriously. There are a lot of things Andy is at fault for, but desire to win is not one. Not even close.
you state the obvious! no one wants to lose.
Andy's methods are failing, or at least, becoming predictable, bordering on stupid, idiotic, bizarre, assanine.
He's losing a "feel" for the game, and relying too much on that "strategic" cardboard playlist in his hand.
We need to get back to running the football. That was his quote in muther-farging JUNE!
He's like a broken record, every farging loss. If he's too stupid to fix the one problem HE KNOWS EXISTS, it's time to GTFO.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 30, 2006, 07:26:25 PM
We need to get back to running the football. That was his quote in muther-farging JUNE!
He's like a broken record, every farging loss. If he's too stupid to fix the one problem HE KNOWS EXISTS, it's time to GTFO.
As much as it pisses off the media and fans, very few coaches (if any) will actually name player's names or call out particular bad plays in a press conference in a derogatory way. it's obvious to those who know football what the problems are.
I just hate his monotone interviews and canned replies over and over. ARRRRRRRGH
Quote from: dis12 on October 30, 2006, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 30, 2006, 07:26:25 PM
We need to get back to running the football. That was his quote in muther-farging JUNE!
He's like a broken record, every farging loss. If he's too stupid to fix the one problem HE KNOWS EXISTS, it's time to GTFO.
As much as it pisses off the media and fans, very few coaches (if any) will actually name player's names or call out particular bad plays in a press conference in a derogatory way.  it's obvious to those who know football what the problems are.Â
I just hate his monotone interviews and canned replies over and over. ARRRRRRRGH
It's not the players that are the problem. Look up the running averages for this team this year. It's over 4 yds a carry, I'd bet. And we haven't been running more than 35% of the time DESPITE THIS. It absolutely led to the loss vs. the Giants. And he said we should run more. The Bucs play two-deep more or less every down, are giving up nearly 5 yds a carry, and we run less than a third of the time. The Jags game was never out of hand (score wise), and they barely run.
This "my method is vastly superior to all you iceholes" methodology isn't working, it is ENTIRELY Reid's fault, and he needs to be held accountable for it. None of his players will take any of his threats on accountability seriously when he constantly gets a free pass for failure.
EDIT: I just checked. Even without McNabb's yardage they are averaging 4.8 yds a carry. With McNabb it's 5.1. WHY AREN'T THEY RUNNING?!
Because passsing the ball doesn't work all the time and adjusting to different teams strengths and weakness' is out of the question because Reid does not know how to adjust or manage a game. hmmmmmmmm
i agree totally MMH :boom
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2006, 07:00:30 PM
Well clearly you smartasses have insight into this that the rest of us do not.
Please, share the details of your intimate conversations with AR.
The point is that however badly he WANTS to win, he isn't doing it. And worse, he is failing with a very talented team. He is failing because of his own stubborn jackassery. So whether he really really wants to win or not makes no difference. It's time for a change. Stat.
i guess the plural smartasses includes me? i dont have any insight into his feelings or what goes on in his head but neither does the "he doesnt care about losing....just look at his press conferences" crowd.
wtf
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/wolfson_2006/andy-copy.jpg)
^^^^
haha
the skins game made me weep today
portis has 12 carries for 18 yards
what do the skins do
continue to run him
what happens
four carries later he busts a 40 yard td run
i know youre scouting this team andy....take the hints
Archuleta and Vincent? Man, take a guess about the first fifteen plays. I dare you.
Nah... I think I'll pass.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2006, 02:54:09 PM
i know youre scouting this team andy....take the hints
That's not Andy... that's you.
it should be since he plays them next week
then again you make a good point...andy doesnt scout nor does he need to...hes gonna come out and run his offense the exact same way he always does so what would be the point
They're gonna shock the world when they open up the game with a playaction bomb.
or open the game with an onside kick.
They're not playing Dallas.
that's why it's going to shock the world.
Other than a cramp for Reggie Brown early in the game, no injuries mentioned...
On the Reggie/CBuck TD: "It was a fumble....didn't have to ask him..."
OL and DL played well...so did Tapeh...
Let Marty handle all the no-huddle stuff today, says there's a good chance Marty will do a lot more playcalling and not just no-huddle
Andy says the offense struggled while he (Andy) was calling the plays, so he turned over control
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 12, 2006, 04:21:13 PM
Let Marty handle all the no-huddle stuff today, says there's a good chance Marty will do a lot more playcalling and not just no-huddle
Andy says the offense struggled while he (Andy) was calling the plays, so he turned over control
:o
Is this the reason for all the runs too?
Probably
Meanwhile, Donovan says he knew nothing about the playcalling switch because he gets all the calls from Marty anyway...
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 12, 2006, 04:21:13 PM
Other than a cramp for Reggie Brown early in the game, no injuries mentioned...
On the Reggie/CBuck TD: "It was a fumble....didn't have to ask him..."
OL and DL played well...so did Tapeh...
Let Marty handle all the no-huddle stuff today, says there's a good chance Marty will do a lot more playcalling and not just no-huddle
Andy says the offense struggled while he (Andy) was calling the plays, so he turned over control
If that last part is true that is a revelation.
Well then....lets just keep that up for the rest of the year.
WAR MARTY BALL! :fire
Quote from: Munson on November 12, 2006, 05:08:54 PM
Well then....lets just keep that up for the rest of the year.
WAR MARTY BALL! :fire
Reid should hold onto the kicking/receiving decision after coin tosses though.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 12, 2006, 04:21:13 PM
Let Marty handle all the no-huddle stuff today, says there's a good chance Marty will do a lot more playcalling and not just no-huddle
Andy says the offense struggled while he (Andy) was calling the plays, so he turned over control
If that's the case, then Andy should win Coach of the Year for that decision alone.
Andy probably just didn't feel like dealing with his reading glasses on a rainy day.
I just watched Morningwood's newsie.
He's almost as dismissive and arrogant as Andy. Almost.
He made a "Big Andy" joke that everyone seemed to enjoy, though, so he's got that going for him.
Mohrninweg for head coach! Take the wind in OT!
since andy isnt calling plays anymore is there any reason he should be head coach?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 12, 2006, 10:14:37 PM
since andy isnt calling plays anymore is there any reason he should be head coach?
To annoy you, presumably.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 12, 2006, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 12, 2006, 05:08:54 PM
Well then....lets just keep that up for the rest of the year.
WAR MARTY BALL! :fire
Reid should hold onto the kicking/receiving decision after coin tosses though.
Respectfully disagree sir. AR might burn time outs to get the choice in ("that call is my responsibility"), or could challenge a decision for the Eagles to receive.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 12, 2006, 10:14:37 PM
since andy isnt calling plays anymore is there any reason he should be head coach?
isnt this what u wanted? for him to not call the plays? and am i mistaken or do most head coaches not call plays?
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 12, 2006, 07:35:24 PM
Andy probably just didn't feel like dealing with his reading glasses on a rainy day.
this made me laugh
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 12, 2006, 07:53:27 PM
I just watched Morningwood's newsie.
He's almost as dismissive and arrogant as Andy. Almost.
He made a "Big Andy" joke that everyone seemed to enjoy, though, so he's got that going for him.
Did he leave mid-PC on his Harley with a tough guy look on his face?
Bad to the bone... b-b-b-b-aaaad.
Was anyone listening to the postgame stuff on wysp yesterday? Some douchebag caller named Reese called in complaining about the refs missing the PI call in the endzone and a bunch of other stupid shtein. He was hung up on and made fun of. Just wondering if that was our very own Reese or not.
Anywho, I damn near ran off the road when I heard Andy say he let Marty call the game. Wow.
It was sort of an ugly win but it sure beats the hell out of an ugly loss......like all 4 of them.
McNabb probably had his worst game of the season accuracy wise. I don't know if the weather/wet ball had anything to do with it or not. But he made good decisions pretty much all game.
Westbrook had a fantastic game. 25 total touches and 113 yards on the ground. Exactly what they needed.
It was also nice to see the defense get back to doing the little things. Like tackle. Good things happen when you tackle.
Dawkins seemed to be all over the field. Anyone who says he's 'lost it' has lost it.
Mahe averaged like 33 yds per kick return and 9 per punt return. Nice. The punt he let go that got downed inside the 5 totally took a goofy bounce. I wasn't mad though because it put the action right in front of my seat.
Mike Lewis actually has some value when he's not covering.
The Eagles held the ball for the final 9 minutes of the game and ran the clock out ala the Saints vs us. Well done.
My only real 'complaint' is the goal line posession they had after the Westbrook 'fumble'. I thought there was some crappy playcalling on that but since it didn't come back to bite them in the ass, I'll live with it.
Oh, and they need some sort of covered area for smokers. :boo
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 13, 2006, 09:35:39 AM
Oh, and they need some sort of covered area for smokers. :boo
you should be happy that you were allowed to smoke at all, that new law has restricted it from the entire stadium, but depending where you were standing to smoke, some security guards busted you, some looked the other way.
There's an area right outside the section I was sitting in (112) where they sent all the smokers. Down the steps to ground level. It was basically outside the stadium but within the confines of the outter gates.
There was also a white line painted on the ground that they told us to stand behind. But I'm a rebel and I stood about 2 feet on the other side of it. I then led a revolution and got other smokers to cross the line with me. Follow me to freedom. And cancer.
Quote"I saw Marty's son (12-year-old Skylar) during the bye week," Westbrook said. "I told him to tell his dad to run the ball more. So I got to give it to his son."
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 12, 2006, 07:54:54 PM
Mohrninweg for head coach! Take the wind in OT!
(http://susbirder.com/cf/marty.jpg)
Corky Mohrinweg
Just like everything else, WIP is trying to spin things negatively. Now they're saying Reid should be fired because he's doing less work for the same amount of pay... :-D
Typical.
the money thing is idiotic...but the point well made...if hes not calling plays then why is he there...his superior clock management?...the brilliant in game adjustments?...he deserves credit for realizing he cant call a game and giving it over to marty but at the end of the day hes pretty much worthless as a game day coach so why exactly is he there?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 13, 2006, 10:31:23 AM
Just like everything else, WIP is trying to spin things negatively. Now they're saying Reid should be fired because he's doing less work for the same amount of pay... :-D
Big Daddy started that last night. I didn't have time to call in and remind him that a lot of HC's delegate to the OC's and DC's.
Cowher (Whisenhunt & LeBeau) He has always done that. Even when Mularkey was there.
Gibbs (Saunders & Williams)
Parcells (Zimmer & Haley)
Coughlin (Hufnagel & Lewis)
Lovie Smith (Turner & Rivera)
Fox (Henning & Trgovac)
Green (Rowan (until fired) & Pendergast)
Nolan (Norv Turner)
Belichick doesn't call plays either...there are others out there in the AFC too
Once again, WIP is wrong.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2006, 10:36:36 AM
the money thing is idiotic...but the point well made...if hes not calling plays then why is he there...his superior clock management?...the brilliant in game adjustments?...he deserves credit for realizing he cant call a game and giving it over to marty but at the end of the day hes pretty much worthless as a game day coach so why exactly is he there?
Why are the numerous other NFL HC's there who do the same?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2006, 10:36:36 AM
the money thing is idiotic...but the point well made...if hes not calling plays then why is he there...his superior clock management?...the brilliant in game adjustments?...he deserves credit for realizing he cant call a game and giving it over to marty but at the end of the day hes pretty much worthless as a game day coach so why exactly is he there?
his in-week preperation is very good, i think that's enough to keep him around if someone else is calling the plays
Why are the numerous other NFL HC's there who do the same?
a head coach certainly doesnt have to call plays to have his job...but someone like cowher who doesnt call plays is a great field general and can manage a game very well...he also has his imprint all over the way the team plays and calls games even tho he isnt making the individual play calls...thus he is valuable even when not calling plays
reid cant manage a game and wants to pass the ball on every play menaing his imprint in not on the team at all during games
his in-week preperation is very good, i think that's enough to keep him around if someone else is calling the plays
i dont know that his in week preperation is all that good...i think he is good at designing plays just not implementing them in a game situation...i think he would be a decent offensive coordinator who doesnt call plays
Wow..try to focus ADD generation... He's not getting fired in season how about you shtein-bags arm-chair up a way we beat the colts.
how about you shtein-bags arm-chair up a way we beat the colts
gillooly peyton
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2006, 10:51:08 AM
i dont know that his in week preperation is all that good...i think he is good at designing plays just not implementing them in a game situation...i think he would be a decent offensive coordinator who doesnt call plays
So you're saying he's Brad Childress?
There was a woman security guard during halftime outside section 204, she was really laying it to the smokers, luckily we kept it out of her sight, but she really was yelling at this one guy and just about kicked him out.
Reid says this is the first time one of his players missed a team flight, so they took action and "did what was right"...
He should probably do what's right and resign on the spot.
I bet Bunkley is pissed for missing this game! He probably knew what was coming. :-D
how do you miss a plane to go to a football game? i really am having trouble comprehending this.
Garcia starts next week if he's healthy
McNabb heading down to Alabama on Tuesday for surgery
Give it up for Addai, he's a heck of a football player :-D
They will continue to use an aggressive defense because that's what they are
He should probably do what's right and resign on the spot.
Garcia = forearm strain.
If he's healthy he will start next week. And he really didn't play bad to be honest.
i agree, the offensive gameplan was pretty good, but then again, the Colts defense isn't very good, and like IGY said, they were on cruise control from 21-0 on.
the defensive gameplan, to do their best Marcellus Wallace impersonation, however was not very good.
garcia will never play bad because hes a smart veteran qb...but that is not point...there are so many things he cant do and is limited so much that the offense becomes way to easy to defense
play feely
I'd start Feeley too. But whatever. Until these taints on defense can make a stop its moot.
Watch 'em beat CAR next week. I hope they do since I'll be there.
"this wasn't a good one."
well duh, icehole.
The Defense was aggressive tonight? How? They sat back and were thrashed all night by the run. The only good play they made was a remarkable pick by Lito, and that was just a plain individual effort.
I thik its funny how Derrick Gunn talks tough to Barkann about how these guys should be asked if they really practiced this week and how they stink and then when he gets players to talk to him be starts bullshteintin and laughing with them.
Trotter at the podium now, says he doesn't know why it's the same thing week after week after week...
"Uhhh, we suck. Thank you goodnight"
Can someone cap Bunkley's presser for me tonight? I want to know if he won in his game of Madden tonight.
Trotter says he's frustrated and tired of talking to people as a leader because they aren't listening to him, says it goes back to last year that the run defense sucked...
Well the little shteinheads who aren't listening need to be cut then.
Q: Are the problems fixable?
A: I don't know
Not good.
i wish people would cut to the chase and acknowledge that the players suck...just because something is wrong doesnt mean you can fix it....get the awful players off the roster and replace them with better personnel...thats the solution...not listening better
The coaches and players can't say publicly that they aren't good enough, but you can tell they know it. Andy knows it, Trotter knows it. The only thing they can't do is admit to themselves that they suck. Trotter sucks now, but won't admit it to himself.
They simply don't have the players. I can't name one pro bowl player on this defense. Dawkins was off to a great start but has sucked the last 5 weeks.
Lito's had a pretty good year, especially for missing afew games.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 27, 2006, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: King Cole on November 27, 2006, 12:09:03 AMI can't name one pro bowl player on this defense.
Lito
I'll give you Lito. He is having a good year for the time that he has played, but he won't make the pro bowl due to the period he missed during injury.
The Colts put up 45, but Lito's guy (Harrison) was invisible all night. That's impressive stuff.
Team Tito approves of the last 4 posts.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 26, 2006, 11:57:35 PM
Trotter at the podium now, says he doesn't know why it's the same thing week after week after week...
if he were honest, he would have to call himself out. farg trotter
Sheppard is the only player earning his paycheck right now on defense.
The Colts could have done anything they wanted last night...they CHOSE not to embarrass Lito. They could run all night, and did so 13 straight times at one point.
^^^^^
yes
if the colts wanted to they could have gotten harrison 8 for 120 and touch...but they would have had to work a little harder in attacking lito and shedlon...and why make the extra effort when you can gash the front seven at will
Injuries:
Barber - making progress with his knee
Garcia - feels better today
Herremans - lacerated finger - had stitches and is OK
McCoy - doing ok with abdominal and shoulder strain
Short - sprained ankle getting better
Stallworth - slight hamstring strain
James - knee is getting better
Westbrook - made it through OK
Bunkley:
We've been here 7 years an no one has ever missed the plane. So whatever excuse he had, whether good or not, is unacceptable.
Reid:
It's my fault. Blah, blah, blah, blah....
wow, after last night he's going to continue to talk about this Bunkley thing? he missed the plane, and was inactive for the game, it shouldn't be mentioned again after he talked about it last night.
Quote from: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:04:27 PM
wow, after last night he's going to continue to talk about this Bunkley thing? he missed the plane, and was inactive for the game, it shouldn't be mentioned again after he talked about it last night.
That was all he said on it...they asked him a question after that about fining him and he said he wasn't going to get into it any more
gotcha
Stallworth hurt his hamstring by pulling up too quickly on that 3rd and 16 play.
The hamstring is connected to the vadge.
can we get a wr whose okay whose not always injured?
Quote from: MDS on November 27, 2006, 03:08:06 PM
can we get a wr whose okay whose not always injured?
It would also help if he weren't a giant douche.
Reggie Brown is the next Chad Johnson, though, so we're OK.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 27, 2006, 04:40:10 PM
Quote from: MDS on November 27, 2006, 03:08:06 PM
can we get a wr whose okay whose not always injured?
It would also help if he weren't a giant douche.
Reggie Brown is the next Chad Johnson, though, so we're OK.
If only he could catch. :boo
QuoteEagles | Bartrum out for Week 13
Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:33:27 -0800
Chris McPherson, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles TE Mike Bartrum (neck) is out for Week 13. The team's plans to replace Bartrum, one of the league's elite long snappers, are not yet known. DL Darren Howard is next on the team's official depth chart for long snapping.
So we wont mess up a FG this week?
bartrum is actually out for the year
So Andy has tanked the season and is trying to figure out who his next long snapper will be. Now that the season's over, no need to wrry about messing up the snaps anymore. :yay
GET CHAD LEWIS
Haha, no.
Didn't see it posted anywhere, but McNabb had successful surgery today on his ACL. They cleaned out part of his meniscus and another part was already healing so he fixed that up.
Quote from: Dillen37 on November 28, 2006, 06:43:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 28, 2006, 04:15:05 PM
bartrum is actually out for the year
He's actually retiring.
Not sure if you guys thought this was a joke or something, but according to GCobb, the injury could result in paralysis if he continued to play, so he's done.... :(
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 28, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Nice of you to offer your services, rjs.
Hey man, it's a pay check.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 28, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 28, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Nice of you to offer your services, rjs.
then we can see another Invicible movie in a few years. :yay
It is apparent that it was affecting his snaps this year. He wasn't his usual self.
Where's Morris Unutoa these days...
Probably chillin with Jerry Crafts.
Get Trey Junkin!
:-D Jerry Crafts...
I just looked him and Morris Unutoa up...
Morris is playing in the CFL for the Ottawa Renegades and Crafts is the head coach for the AIFL's Erie Freeze.
Trey Junkin...oh, man. He was great in that playoff game against the 49ers.
Yeah that was great, Junkin's reaction after the game was better. The guy seriously didn't give a farg; just took his paycheck and left.
http://www.longsnap.com/
Man, there's a website for everything.
Bears LS Patrick Mannelly has his own site and long snapping academy too.
$10 says Darren Howard is long snapper for the rest of the year... 'til he gets hurt... then it's Mahe.
harper lebel bitches
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2006, 08:04:12 AM
harper lebel bitches
(http://www.packers.com/pg/1997-10-12/photo14.jpeg)
Reggie & Harper Le Bel...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 28, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 28, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Nice of you to offer your services, rjs.
Don't let the avitar fool you. RJS is as black as a cold winter night.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 29, 2006, 07:40:29 AM
$10 says Darren Howard is long snapper for the rest of the year... 'til he gets hurt... then it's Mahe.
I want to
stangle you for being so potentially right.
Quote from: Zanshin on November 29, 2006, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 28, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 28, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Nice of you to offer your services, rjs.
Don't let the avitar fool you. RJS is as black as a cold winter night.
So he's bluish/purple? ???
Its amazing guys like Unatoa and Crafts are still involved in football is some capacity.
It means both men had more successful post-NFL careers than Fredex. That makes me laugh and cry all at the same time.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 29, 2006, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on November 29, 2006, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 28, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 28, 2006, 08:57:31 PM
Thank god. Now they can bring in some other moderately untalented white dude to take up a roster spot.
Nice of you to offer your services, rjs.
Don't let the avitar fool you. RJS is as black as a cold winter night.
So he's bluish/purple? ???
I thought that went without saying. Sort of eggplant-y.
Only injuries mentioned;
Lewis - concussion & hurt his nose; did not return
Smith - scratched cornea; did not return
Andy was slobbing on Garcia's knob during that presser...
QB Controversy!
Westbrook - toe is ok; x-rays negative
Hood - hamstring strain
Mikell - foot sprain
Lewis - concussion
Stallworth's hammy?
All good. For now.
Did he mention anything about Darwin Walker's thigh?
I was wondering what the status of that is.
It'd be rather helpful if the thigh just fell off.
Jamaal Jackson was the only injured player today
Joked that unlike last year's game, they decided to keep Westbrook on the field today
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 10, 2006, 04:13:28 PM
Jamaal Jackson was the only injured player today
Joked that unlike last year's game, they decided to keep Westbrook on the field today
Did they indicate how the ankel was?
Jackson told DGunn that he'll be OK
Will James - strained calf in warmups (forgive me for calling Andy brain dead for not activating him)
Mike Lewis - sprained MCL - left game (walking fine after)
QuoteThe Eagles' plan was to use former Giants corner William James, their biggest player at that position, against his former teammate, 6-5 wideout Plaxico Burress. But James felt a pop in the pregame warmup that turned out to be a calf strain, and Rod Hood suddenly was thrown into the breach.
"I was doing some 'W' drills, I didn't have cleats on - W drills are something a corner does, backpedal and break forward. I went to break forward and I felt a pop. I felt like somebody hit me in my calf. I turned around; I thought it was either a player, or somebody threw something out of the stands," James said. "I turned around and I didn't see anything. It was hard to walk after that. They put me in a boot... we'll see. Hopefully, I can get back... we don't play again until Monday."
James said he spent about half an hour with Hood before the game, then stuck in his two cents' worth every chance he got during the game, to Hood and anyone else who would listen.
I went to break forward and I felt a pop
that doesnt sound good
Yeah... I don't like the sound of that.
I guess the only positive is that he's got an extra day to get his calf in order and make it back.
per Andy Reid press conference:
William James - strained calf, see how it does
Michael Lewis - sprained MCL, see how it does
Shawn Barber - improving with his stinger situation
Update...Buck has a CALF strain, not a knee strain.
Juqua Thomas has a calf spasm.
Andy says not bad.
I thought I saw Buck grabbing his calf and not his knee.
buck should have never seen the field...i dont know what andy was thinking
overall tho its amazing how fortunate theyve been this year with injuries
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2006, 07:49:08 PM
buck should have never seen the field...i dont know what andy was thinking
overall tho its amazing how fortunate theyve been this year with injuries
Buck got hurt on the 1st drive didn't he? I know it was no later than the 2nd drive.
Sucks that he got hurt... but he is indeed a backup and you can't fault Andy for him still being in the game.
Hopefully, he's ready to go next week.
dook has fake knees...with moats dressed there was absolutely no reason for him to be in the game
i said to sun before the offense even took the field that if buck comes out andy needs to be shot
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2006, 07:49:08 PM
overall tho its amazing how fortunate theyve been this year with injuries
Definitely. McNabb, that's it.
Last year everyone was hurt for an extended amount of time. Akers, McNabb, Tapeh, Westbrook, Buck, Pinkston, Tra, Herremans, Hicks, Fraley, McDougle, Rayburn, Kalu, Lito, Considine.
How was I able to name all of them? Damn.
Quote from: Dillen37 on December 31, 2006, 08:00:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2006, 07:49:08 PM
overall tho its amazing how fortunate theyve been this year with injuries
Definitely. McNabb, that's it.
Last year everyone was hurt for an extended amount of time. Akers, McNabb, Tapeh, Westbrook, Buck, Pinkston, Tra, Herremans, Hicks, Fraley, McDougle, Rayburn, Kalu, Lito, Considine.
How was I able to name all of them? Damn.
And Kearse this yr
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2006, 08:01:11 PM
And Kearse this yr
Ha...yeah.
The team lost 2 of the most important players and has done better without them. :-D
MCNABB AND KEARSE FOR RAIDERS #1 PICK!!11
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2006, 07:55:14 PM
dook has fake knees...with moats dressed there was absolutely no reason for him to be in the game
i said to sun before the offense even took the field that if buck comes out andy needs to be shot
Yeah... I don't even necessarily disagree with you. Once I saw him take the handoff... I was worried about him getting hurt.
Either way... I want to hope that he wasn't going to play him the whole game.
After he got hurt and then Moats was limping and the Tapeh dislocated his finger I was scurrrrred.
Buck's injury looked like a calf to me because he clutched the back of his leg. Did they say what it was?
Quote from: King Cole on December 31, 2006, 08:07:23 PM
Buck's injury looked like a calf to me because he clutched the back of his leg. Did they say what it was?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2006, 07:32:10 PM
Update...Buck has a CALF strain, not a knee strain.
Juqua Thomas has a calf spasm.
Andy says not bad.
I thought I saw Buck grabbing his calf and not his knee.
i thought it looked like a calf strain, but i'll have to wait for the injury report to be sure.
QuoteSheppard hopeful about elbow
By RICH HOFMANN
hofmanr@phillynews.com
Lito Sheppard left Lincoln Financial Field last night with his right arm in a sling, and with an expression of hope. "I can move it, so that's a plus," he said, of the dislocated elbow that he suffered in the fourth quarter of the Eagles' playoff win over the Giants.
An MRI exam will be performed today to see the extent of the damage, which occurred on a running play. But Eagles coach Andy Reid was pessimistic about the possibility that Sheppard might be able to make it back for Saturday night's second-round playoff game at New Orleans.
"It probably doesn't look too good for this coming week," Reid said, which means that he will have some decisions to make in the coming days involving Rod Hood, Joselio Hanson and perhaps William James (who didn't dress for yesterday's game).
Sheppard said the team's medical staff popped the elbow back into place while he was still on the field.
He said, "It's a little sore but I'll be OK. I think it's more hysterical than pain.
"You see your elbow turned a different way, and you know it's not supposed to go that way. But it was cool. It will be all right."
And if it isn't?
"[The others] just have to continue what they've been doing - play well, play their assignments, and everything will work out," he said. "Those guys have been in there. It's not a worry.
"It's one of those things. You can't let it get you down... Some guys just have to step up."
But it won't be easy. Sheppard has been the Eagles' best cover corner this season. His replacement, Hood, was beaten by Giants wideout Plaxico Burress on the game-tying touchdown with 5:04 left in the fourth quarter.
"It's a big blow, especially when you know [Sheppard's] playmaking ability, interceptions and returns for touchdowns, as he has done throughout his career," safety Brian Dawkins said. "But everything happens for a reason. There is a reason why we brought [cornerback] Will James in. There's a reason why Joselio Hanson got to play so much earlier in the season."
This could be bad. Horn, Colston, Henderson and Copper can torch this secondary. Not to mention they suck at tackling and OHMIGOD Reggie Bush can have a field day.
lito out this week
Tra/william fine
Westy is better
no other injuries
Suck it up and get an Injection, Lito.
i would guess Lito can't play because he would have to tackle? i can't believe he can't cover somebody with an elbow injury.
William James is healthy and will play this weekend.
Lito may not be done for the playoffs, if they get past this week.
Which former Will is William James again...Allen, or Peterson?? I forget.
Peterson
Thanks.
Well, here's to hoping he's healthy enough, and wily enough, to contain Colston.
Quote from: MURP on January 08, 2007, 12:05:08 PM
Suck it up and get an Injection, Lito.
No shtein. Like SunMo said, the only part of his game that would suffer is tackling. Deion Sanders didn't make one single tackle in his career.
Quote from: MDS on January 08, 2007, 04:02:19 AM
This could be bad. Horn, Colston, Henderson and Copper can torch this secondary. Not to mention they suck at tackling and OHMIGOD Reggie Bush can have a field day.
Horn is doubtful.
Quote from: Dillen37 on January 09, 2007, 02:31:55 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 08, 2007, 04:02:19 AM
This could be bad. Horn, Colston, Henderson and Copper can torch this secondary. Not to mention they suck at tackling and OHMIGOD Reggie Bush can have a field day.
Horn is doubtful.
Horn says he'll play (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1511)
QuoteSaints WR Joe Horn, who did not finish the regular season thanks to a groin strain, vows to play in the Saints' home playoff game in two weeks. "You gut it out regardless," said Horn. "This opportunity doesn't come that often, and now we have the opportunity to win a playoff game and go to the NFC championship and have that opportunity to play (in the Super Bowl) in Miami. It doesn't come much in the NFL and in your career, so I'm definitely going to gut it out and be on that football field."
Still, you have to wonder how effective can he be considering he hasn't played in over a month and has a partially torn groin.
horn is irrelevant...even healthy he is a shell of his former self and hes not healthy...
his playing or not playing has no efect on the final score of this game
He had 6 catches for 110 yards and 2 TDs in our last meeting, that's certainly relevant to this game even if he's injured.
if he even plays ill be somewhat surprised...if he plays and contributes ill be shocked...i guess the one positive thing it does is to take a veteran out of the lineup and replace him with a young inexperienced guy who maybe will make a fatal mistake....but thats reaching big time
its a non starter
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 09, 2007, 03:34:00 PM
He had 6 catches for 110 yards and 2 TDs in our last meeting, that's certainly relevant to this game even if he's injured.
The Eagles' coaches thought so much of Joe Horn that they put Michael Lewis in coverage against him deep. It just so happens that 'a shell of Joe Horn's former self' is still significantly better than Michael Lewis.
Devery Henderson would've had those same numbers had he played in Horn's place in the 1st game
I would have had those same numbers in the first game if I'd have played in Horn's place.
But Joe Horn is still someone to be concerned about. He's a tough veteran and he'll play his heart out this weekend.
Even so, you have to respect Joe Horn's ability to make plays. Him being on the field will at least demand some attention which could open up other plays downfield.
He could bring an emotional boost on top of the high they will probably be riding if they come out of the gate hot.
Some of you cats are seriously underestimating Joe Horn.
he cant run right now and isnt that good anymore anyway...could he do something in this game sure...but hes about at the bottom of the list of things to worry about and he wont be any kind of difference maker...
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 10, 2007, 01:35:38 AM
Some of you cats are seriously underestimating Joe Horn.
The only way he shreds the Eagles Saturday is if they focus on stopping the run and roll the coverage to Colston and Henderson... which is probably advisable.
So, yeah... I expect him to come up big. Him and Terrance Copper.
Andrews was taken to the hospital and had swelling in his neck.
The night just keeps getting better and better
Whatever. I'm sure Scott Young will get better playing full-time.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 10, 2007, 01:15:56 PM
So, yeah... I expect him to come up big. Him and Terrance Copper.
Henderson blew by Hood for a 35 yard catch and Copper got a fumble in between four Eagles. So, yeah.
When did Andrews get hurt? What happened exactly? All of the sudden, I was watching and thought "What the farg is Young doing in there? Where's Andrews?"
And when they announced he was out with a neck injury, I said to my wife -- this game was just lost.
God
Who's more likely to ever play for the Eagles again at this point?
Shawn Andrews or Javon Kearse?
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 13, 2007, 11:44:29 PM
Who's more likely to ever play for the Eagles again at this point?
Shawn Andrews or Javon Kearse?
Is Andrew's injury that bad?
Neck inflammation is usually nothing to worry about. Not at all.
Hell, if it's a neck injury, I just hope the big fella is OK.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 13, 2007, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 13, 2007, 11:44:29 PM
Who's more likely to ever play for the Eagles again at this point?
Shawn Andrews or Javon Kearse?
Is Andrew's injury that bad?
Taken to the hospital with his neck swollen up like a balloon. I didn't even know he had a neck.
I just got an email from a buddy saying JJ resigned. Troof?
False.
We can only hope that old farger is gonna call it quits.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2007, 12:33:07 AM
I just got an email from a buddy saying JJ resigned. Troof?
FWIW, I saw that rumor on a couple of other Eagles boards and one Cowboys board. All claimed to have heard it on WIP, so take it for what it's worth. From what I remember about that station they have a tendency to go a little overboard sometimes.
Quote from: EJ72 on January 14, 2007, 12:45:45 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 14, 2007, 12:33:07 AM
I just got an email from a buddy saying JJ resigned. Troof?
FWIW, I saw that rumor on a couple of other Eagles boards and one Cowboys board. All claimed to have heard it on WIP, so take it for what it's worth. From what I remember about that station they have a tendency to go a little overboard sometimes.
My buddy cited WIP as his "source" as well which is why I sought confirmation.
He also said that Mike Lewis had a "tearful" interview with DGunn on Comcast and said he won't be back.
Mike Lewis had a tearful season and shouldn't be back. I'd still his exellence in run support/suckyness in pass coverage over Considine's average at run support, slightly above average in pass coverage.
Any word on why Scott Young was ever allowed to be on this team? I feel like that should have come up at least five or six times in a press conference after this game.
Here's that Lewis interview (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/eagles/011307-lewis.wmv)
A caller called up and said that on WIP and he was a drunk idiot. It was on WIP though.
Quote from: King Cole on January 14, 2007, 01:04:43 AM
A caller called up ... on WIP and he was a drunk idiot.
SHOCKING
Christ...if Andrews ruptured a disc in he's neck he's done.
:boom
Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 14, 2007, 01:17:04 AM
Christ...if Andrews ruptured a disc in he's neck he's done.
:boom
is that what he did? are there any updates?
Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 14, 2007, 01:17:04 AM
Christ...if Andrews ruptured a disc in he's neck he's done.
:boom
where the farg did you read that?
FWIW, Spadaro said this about Andrews a little while ago:
QuoteI will find out later today. I saw Shawn late, late after he got back from the hospital. He was up, walking around and looked like he couldn't move his neck. He wasn't immobilized, which was a good thing.
:-\
I can't move my neck when I pull a muscle for a few days. If he wasn't immobilized (like with a brace or something) then its not serious. If he "ruptured a disc in his neck" (where the farg did that report come from) he'd be immobilized with a brace and most likely still in the hospital.
yep...up & walking around is a great sign.
Good to hear.
Scott. farging. Young.
Punt. 1 minute on clock. Jackass
Any word on why Scott Young was ever allowed to be on this team? I feel like that should have come up at least five or six times in a press conference after this game.
if that motherfarger doesnt get hegamined today then the masses need to storm novacare
as far as im concerned hes right along side mitch williams
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2007, 11:39:09 AM
as far as im concerned hes right along side mitch williams
I'll be using that tomorrow, and will call it my own.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 14, 2007, 09:38:14 AM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on January 14, 2007, 01:17:04 AM
Christ...if Andrews ruptured a disc in he's neck he's done.
:boom
where the farg did you read that?
Just to clarify I didn't read it anywhere. Was watching the post game with a Dr. friend of mine and he said that's what it sounded like to him.
Hopefully the big kid is OK.
Tell your doctor friend that he was walking around last night, no brace, just a stiff neck.
Settle down, there PG. You're getting your knickers in a twist about the wrong shtein.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 14, 2007, 12:50:38 PM
Tell your doctor friend that he was walking around last night, no brace, just a stiff neck.
:-D
I'll make sure I do that.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 14, 2007, 12:51:45 PM
Settle down, there PG. You're getting your knickers in a twist about the wrong shtein.
Let me be pissed about whatever I damn well want to be today.
I just ran out of beer and am too drunk to go out and buy some more. Be pissed off about that. I am.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 02:47:39 PM
I just ran out of beer and am too drunk to go out and buy some more. Be pissed off about that. I am.
Call a beer distributor that delivers. :yay
i thought only high school partys ran out of beer
When you drink as much as I do, you tend to run of of beer pretty quickly.
must be liquor time then
im drinking ripple today in honor of the brother martin luther king but more so because i have off tomorrow for his born day
I already half into a bottle of Soco. Its gonna be a long day - I predict puking...either from watching Seattle win thus making me imagine a home NFCCG next week, or the mass liquor in my liver.
Quote from: mussa on January 14, 2007, 11:14:39 AM
Punt. 1 minute on clock. Jackass
Was the reasoning for this stupid farging call addressed in his press conference?
I predict puking
lol
Quote from: shorebird on January 14, 2007, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: mussa on January 14, 2007, 11:14:39 AM
Punt. 1 minute on clock. Jackass
Was the reasoning for this stupid farging call addressed in his press conference?
No but Andy made us all feel better by saying in hindsight, he probably should have gone for it.
I dont give a farg how stupid a playcall is, if a coach makes a decision, he sticks by it. By coming out and saying he was wrong only makes it worse.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2007, 03:06:30 PM
must be liquor time then
im drinking ripple today in honor of the brother martin luther king but more so because i have off tomorrow for his born day
You're drinking cheap wine in honor of a slain Baptist Minister?
Alrighty then.
the rev was known to get his ripple on
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 14, 2007, 03:20:47 PM
the rev was known to get his ripple on
YOu would know this too...since he's your great granddaddy.
half
ha
(stop stealing my shtein yo)
Andrews is out of the Pro Bowl and will be replaced by Ruben Brown
I hope none of the Eagles show up. I wish they'd just 86 the game. 4 eva.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 26, 2007, 12:19:53 AMAndrews is out of the Pro Bowl and will be replaced by Ruben Brown
Good. No need to risk his health at all. I agree with
Sassy. They ought to cancel the damn thing.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 26, 2007, 08:00:20 AM
I hope none of the Eagles show up. I wish they'd just 86 the game. 4 eva.
I wouldn't mind seeing Tony Romo crippled in the game.
I wonder if he'll have the nerve to show up. If the little loser had any heart, he'd fake an injury.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 26, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Tony Romo crippled in the game.
Hell no! I want the Cowboys to waste another couple years with the promise of him being their franchise QB, as he continually chokes in big games and makes unfathomable mistakes in critical situations.
His hot start this year will get him at least another year or two at the reins in Dallas... with hilarious results.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 26, 2007, 09:12:27 AM....as he continually chokes in big games and makes unfathomable mistakes in critical situations.
This reminds me of a certain quarterback.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 26, 2007, 09:13:13 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 26, 2007, 09:12:27 AM....as he continually chokes in big games and makes unfathomable mistakes in critical situations.
This reminds me of a certain quarterback.
Jim Kelly? Dan Marino? Eli Manning?
Lito is out too and was replaced by Walt Harris
Good.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 26, 2007, 09:12:27 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 26, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Tony Romo crippled in the game.
Hell no! I want the Cowboys to waste another couple years with the promise of him being their franchise QB, as he continually chokes in big games and makes unfathomable mistakes in critical situations.
His hot start this year will get him at least another year or two at the reins in Dallas... with hilarious results.
^ Here's a guy who's thinking clearly. At least at that moment he was, anyway.
Found this on another board & didn't see it here yet. I thought it was new take on the Eckel story, that the rest of the media has blindly suckled off of like parasites.
From my experience, Cobb is one to tell it like it is & not hold back his comments to avoid hurting the franchise.
GCobb.com:MCNABB STORY IS OVERBLOWN BECAUSE IT'S MCNABB (http://gcobb.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=639&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
QuoteI talked to a source close to Donovan McNabb yesterday and mentioned the article by Mark Eckel in the Trenton Times and there was immediate laughter. In fact, I was told, "Donovan was anxiously looking forward to getting back on the football field and proving he's still one of the game's best quarterbacks". The source said there was no truth to him being upset or troubled about anything. I was told that this whole thing is about nothing and that McNabb wasn't even aware of anything being wrong.
I must admit that I find it hard to believe that McNabb would be concerned about being backed up by a quarterback who doesn't even have an arm strong enough to break a window pane with a rock standing from point blank range. Anyway, didn't I hear Andy Reid say that the Eagles were Donovan McNabb's team last week?
I know Mark Eckel is a credible reporter and he's not the kind who would make something up, but his article is part reporting and part commentary, just like what you're reading. Eckel wrote that, "McNabb may also be getting a vibe that some in the organization prefer Garcia over him". This is the opinion of this source or Mark's but is that news. (McNabb may) is not a quote but an opinion. I could write that Jeff Garcia may be unstable because of the way he was crying after losing to the Saints. That would be an opinion and a stupid one. This has turned into national news because somebody wrote McNabb may. If he wrote McNabb is getting the vibe that some in the organization prefer Garcia over him then that would be news, especially if accompanied by the source's statements corroborating it. A number of newspapers took Mark's opinion and put up on the top of the story like that opinion was fact. I didn't see one quote of the source saying McNabb felt the organization preferred Garcia over him.
As far as I'm concerned, all of the talk about Donovan being insecure about Jeff Garcia's success is overblown. This is the reason I thought it was foolish of Andy Reid to cancel Donovan McNabb's news conference last week, because now media persons can write the story themselves. Everybody knows it's a slow sports news time in Philly with the Sixers and Flyers both stinking to high heaven, so you know any comments about McNabb are big news.
Why don't any of the reporters ever try to get gossip and stuff on the other Eagles players? If I go in the Eagles lockeroom I run into things that might be considered good gossip but I don't normally mention it unless I think it's really newsworthy.
Here's an example. On the day after the Eagles were eliminated by the Saints, one of the Eagles defensive players approached me in the lockeroom after he had viewed the video of the game, and started talking about how he thought Jeremiah Trotter played terribly in the game. He told he thought Jeremiah was a backstabber because he said the defensive line was too small to stop the run, even though, he Trotter, wasn't doing anything to stop it. The player also told me he didn't appreciate the comments by Trotter earlier in the season about looking into the eyes of the other defensive players and not seeing any life.
This conversation made me go back and look at the Saints video and focus on Trotter and I must admit, the other player was right. He didn't play well in fact most of Sean Payton's attack was aimed at him, the supposed Eagles All-Pro middle linebacker. Also I did have to admit that coming out in the middle of the season and saying your defensive line is too small would be regarded as backstabbing when I played. Also the comment about not seeing life in the eyes of your teammates would be regarded as backstabbing. In fact when I played you'd better get ready for a fight, if you made those comments about your teammates. RAY DIDINGER SAID LAST SATURDAY THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THE EAGLES WOULD INVITE TROTTER BACK THIS YEAR. Why would he say something like that? I haven't read any of the other guys who cover the Eagles mention much about Trotter's struggles.
Jeremiah Trotter gets a pass here in Philly as do nearly everybody else on the team. If Donovan McNabb had said my receivers are too slow or too small or the offensive line isn't good enough he would be called on the carpet, but Trotter can say things without accountability. That's the problem I have with the Philly sports media. Why wouldn't any of the writers in town ask other players how they felt about Trotter saying the defensive line was too small or he didn't see any life in the eyes of the defensive players? Reporters don't stir up controversy unless it's McNabb.
I must admit if I hadn't been approached by the Eagles player and then checked out the treatment of McNabb I wouldn't have even mentioned this conversation or made a big deal about it.
Would it have been overlooked if Donovan McNabb had started crying like a little girl after the Eagles lost to the Saints, the way Jeff Garcia did? He was on ESPN just crying, uncontrollably. Yes a grown man here crying like that after a loss in front of a tough town like Philly. Could you imagine what would have been written and said if McNabb had started crying like that after a loss? There is no doubt that the treatment is different.
The thing that has gotten me outraged is how the sports media goes after McNabb about lesser things. They parse his every word but what gives Trotter and Garcia a pass. I hope they start putting all the other big names on the team under the same microscope.
^ Beautiful.
I knew Garcia was a ticking effeminate timebomb. Get rid of him!
Quote from: General_Failure on January 26, 2007, 10:36:12 PM
I knew Garcia was a ticking effeminate timebomb. Get rid of him!
He's 36 yrs old and peri-menopausal, so lay off