here's to getting the #1 pick!
(http://www.luckymojo.com/goodluck.gif)
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20070419_5_reasons_for_optimism__5_reasons_for_pessimism.html
package all three picks for al horford
sammy d
horford
carney
igy
miller
louie wil
william green
instant korver
joey smith
stevie hunter
PLAYOFFS.
Shouldnt this thread have been started in January?
Vince Carter has AIDS
This much I know.
Hopefully, Chris Bosh contracts some as well.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 19, 2007, 12:26:36 PM
Shouldnt this thread have been started in January?
6er's had the 6th best record in the league after the AS break, so no.
no silly, you want to stay away from AIDS, it makes you feel yucky
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 19, 2007, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 19, 2007, 12:26:36 PM
Shouldnt this thread have been started in January?
6er's had the 6th best record in the league after the AS break, so no.
January = January
All Star Break = February
And sadly they were still in the hunt for a playoff spot since the East was so bad.
We went from a top 4 pick, to the #12 pick... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 19, 2007, 02:51:20 PM
And sadly they were still in the hunt for a playoff spot since the East was so bad.
Thats what everyone said last year till Miami won the title.
just because Miami won the title doesn't mean the East wasn't bad.
in fact, you put the Heat in the Western conference playoffs, I'd bet you they don't make the finals.
Agreed, but a team that wasn't the best team in East throghout the season beat the team that was the best in the considerably stronger West conference.
Gotta mean something.
http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=48779
wow
We would have booed the shtein out of Jordan for not winning that 7th ring. Loser.
article says that they almost traded for the 3rd pick...not that they would have taken jordan
probably better off not having to live with being "the other team" to pass on jordan.
It was either Jordan or Sam Perkins, IGY, unless they had their eye on Sam Bowie. Knowing the Sixers... :paranoid :-D
probably better off not having to live with being "the other team" to pass on jordan.
exactly
Sixers lost the coin flip with Indiana and are now 12th :boom
just something else to make it that much more sweet when they get the first pick easy
easy who won the other flips...i expected you to follow up in the nba thread with the full order of teams...disappointed doesnt begin to describe my feelings right now
Sounds about right.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2007, 04:38:05 PM
easy who won the other flips...i expected you to follow up in the nba thread with the full order of teams...disappointed doesnt begin to describe my feelings right now
Portland 6
Minny 7
Charlotte 8
NY 9
Sac 10
Indy 11
Philly 12
^
which means the 2nd-round pick for the Sixers is #39
At this point I would just try to trade the picks in some combination for a disgruntled big man if there are any takers. Jermaine O'Neal and Pau Gasol both want out. Maybe the 12, 21, and a player could get one of those players. Not Pau Gasol's biggest fan though.
I think we desperately need a big man and I don't see a guy worth taking that can play the 4 or 5 for us at 12. There will probably be a lot of 6'7 6'8 guys available.
Quote from: King Cole on April 20, 2007, 04:53:20 PM
At this point I would just try to trade the picks in some combination for a disgruntled big man if there are any takers. Jermaine O'Neal and Pau Gasol both want out. Maybe the 12, 21, and a player could get one of those players. Not Pau Gasol's biggest fan though.
I think we desperately need a big man and I don't see a guy worth taking that can play the 4 or 5 for us at 12. There will probably be a lot of 6'7 6'8 guys available.
I'd be thrilled with either O'neal or Gasol, but I doubt the Pacers would trade us O'Neal. Gasol is a good player, know he's been wanting out for a while but that always seems like a rumor.
Farg the sixers
Don't get too doom and gloom yet. While the Sixers have only like a .78% chance of getting the #1 overall and around a .85% chance of getting the #2. The Sixers have a whopping roughly 1.01% chance to get the #3 overall!
and if you combine the chances of us getting one of the 3 it increases even more!
Sun-Sentinel:
QuoteWith Gary Payton on the verge of retirement, Jason Williams entering the final year of his contract and Wade hardly up to full-time ball-handling responsibilities, there again is the issue of finding the right distributor for Wade and Shaquille O'Neal.
The options in free agency, especially in a Heat price range that effectively rules out the likes of Chauncey Billups, are limited to second-tier types such as Chucky Atkins, Steve Blake and Smush Parker.
The trade market could present Earl Watson, Luke Ridnour, Sebastian Telfair, Brevin Knight or possibly Dooling, who has the right to opt out of the final year on his Magic contract.
The draft hardly would appear to be Riley's first choice for such a significant position and the options in the Heat's No. 20 range are limited to scoring types such as Texas A&M's Acie Law and Oregon's Aaron Brooks.
The other option would be converting Williams' $8.9 million expiring deal into a veteran point guard with a lengthier contract such as Atlanta's Speedy Claxton, Indiana's Jamaal Tinsley, New York's Stephon Marbury, Philadelphia's Andre Miller, Phoenix's Marcus Banks, Sacramento's Mike Bibby or Minnesota's Mike James or Marko Jaric. Beyond Miller or Bibby, none of those other options appears particularly palatable.
No matter the approach, expect a proactive focus at point guard after the hard lessons learned this past season.
Would you trade Miller (2 years) for Jason Williams (1 year and more cap room after next season)? I wouldn't...
Miller for a stiff like Jason Williams?
What the hell is that assclown smoking?
What the hell is that assclown smoking?
hes miamis beat writer....of course he throw that deal out there
jason williams is pathetic...a year with him would set this franchise back a decade
they need to move louis williams to the two draft conley and tutor him under miller for the next two years
i don't want another undersized two guard
tons of cap room after next season if they made that deal.
David Aldridge should do a retaliatory column suggesting that the Sixers trade Miller for Wade.
Holla.
Quote from: hunt on May 02, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
tons of cap room after next season if they made that deal.
True but they would just screw it up anyway. Miller's a good point guard and guys like that don't grow on trees.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 02, 2007, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: hunt on May 02, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
tons of cap room after next season if they made that deal.
True but they would just screw it up anyway. Miller's a good point guard and guys like that don't grow on trees.
they're not winning a championship with miller so i wouldn't mind them trading him in the right deal...straight up for williams isn't very good but they might be able to move him for something else.
Who else would be available in the summer of 2008 besides any of the unextended 2004 draft picks (Howard, Okafor, Gordon, Livingston, Harris, Deng, etc.)?
Unless someone overwhelms them with a deal, I don't see the point of giving him away for nothing more than cap space.
He's still a very good player, bro. I wouldn't do the deal. No way.
i don't want another undersized two guard
then cut em...hes not a point guard
No way. Give last year's team some time to play and see how they do. If this continues to work, even re-signing Miller would be a good idea.
crazy talk...the goal is to rebuild with draft picks and/or free agents. re-signing a 32 year old pg isn't part of that plan.
article in SI.com about Matt Barnes
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/chris_mannix/05/10/barnes.warriors/
interesting part about the Sixers:
QuoteIt was Barnes's stint with the 76ers, however, that had the most profound impact on his career. In 2005-06, Barnes played in 50 games for Philadelphia, averaging three points in 10.8 minutes. He also developed what can best be described as an acrimonious relationship with Sixers head coach Maurice Cheeks. According to Barnes, Cheeks would frequently degrade him, resulting in his confidence sinking to an all-time low.
"He's the biggest a------ in the world," says Barnes. "He talked to me like I wasn't a man. Other players saw it and would tell me, 'Don't let him talk to you like that.' "
not saying that isnt true but thats hard to believe cheeks would do that
one of cheeks biggest criticisms is that hes to much of a players coach and doesnt come down on players enough....plus in general he seems like one of the nicest guys ever
i thought the same thing, it's just a weird thing to hear.
the only thing i thought is that he could've been directing his AI anger at Barnes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4880PJnO2E
There's no crying in basketball.
Steve Mix is out. Rumored replacement is Big Mac from the radio broadcasts.
damn why.....mix is the man
is this city trying to set the record for the most awful announcers in a city at one time
the phillies are the worst in baseball
the flyers are terrible
merril got a great voice but hes overrated and quick is a joke
zumoff and mix tho were fabulous
i do like mcginnis and i think he can do color but hes great as a play by play guy and we dont need two pbp guys on one broadcast
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 17, 2007, 08:19:02 AM
the phillies are the worst in baseball
Not currently but once Kalas retires I'll agree.
Merrill is not overrated, name me an NFL announcer who's better
IGY lives outside Philly and goes to all the home games... so when would he really get to listen to Merrill?
mix was one guy who would rip the Sixers during a game if they were playing zesty, i wonder if that had anything to do with it
Merrill is not overrated, name me an NFL announcer who's better
i havent heard a ton of teams announcers but of the ones i have bob papa for the giants is better
howard david is much better he might be the best in the biz
joel meyers is excellent too
and theres a bunch of college guys that are better
i love merril cause he is the eagles and hes what i grew up on...and if i could get him on the radio at home for away games i would listen...but as an overall announcer he isnt close to the best....not that hes a bad announcer but imo hes always lived off his voice
Not currently but once Kalas retires I'll agree.
all praise due harry but hes terrible now....he hasnt been the same since whitey died and now combine that with old age and hes in trouble
mix was one guy who would rip the Sixers during a game
yup...thats why i loved him...be a shame if that was the reason
I disagree on all points
damn...mix & zume were good. i just hope they don't give big todd the job.
he flat out sucks. :boo
I liked Steve Mix, but IMO he wasn't irreplaceable. Todd sucks though and would be an awful replacement. If Mix is going to go they will need a better replacement than Todd.
As for the Philly announcers, we have the best in the business. Jim Jackson and Saunders are great. Merrill Reese is the best football play by play guy, Zumoff and Mcginnis are great. The Phillies have Harry still. He isn't what he used to be, but still one of the best.
All in all, Philly has a great combination of announcers, but the strengths are in play by play rather than the analysts. I think if you look at each team, the PBP guy is better than the analyst IMO.
Steve Mix used to use that goddamn telestrator for no reason other than to use it and it drove me nuts. Without fail he'd use it to circle the stats...dude, we can see 'em fine without you putting circles around 'em okaythanksbye.
FYI
the draft lottery is tuesday night at 7:30
i think on espn...but it might be tnt
When I was watching the Jazz - Spurs game for a bit earlier, it said at 8:30, with the game following at 9. Whatever.
Prospect videos (http://videosearch.nba.com/search/?sp_a=sp10038c44&sp_f=ISO-8859-1&sp-t=video&sp_advanced=&sp_s=postdate&sp_k=wmvasf&sp_q=%22draft2007%22)
There was a better site with scouting reports and videos for about 40 players last year. It'll come up when it's closer to the draft, most likely.
its weird i saw a commerical yesterday that said epsn at 730
i looked online and a bunch of places mostly nba sites say 730 on espn but a few cable tv and tv guide type sites have it at 830
it probably starts at 8:30, but espn will overanalyze everything for an entire hour beforehand.
Being the TV dork, I'm guessing overall NBA coverage starts at 730, with the actual draft lottery at 830, and the game at 900. Winnar.
13
Sixers will pick 12...big shocker there.
Neither Boston or Memphis got a top 3 pick bhahahahaha.
im so glad the celtics didnt get rewarded for taking games
wow, oden and durant are both gonna go to the same division.
Top 3:
Blazers
Sonics
Hawks
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 08:53:38 PM
im so glad the celtics didnt get rewarded for taking games
kharma bit them in the ass. Kudos to ESPN for showing their dissappointed fans bhahahaha.
nba is in tears...durant and oden both stuck in the northwest...literally as far away from boston as possible....coincidence?...i think not
hmm...I wonder if BK can trade with Memphis to get #4 and guarantee Wright or Horford...
I read somewhere that Seattle was in pretty significant danger of losing the Sonics if they didn't get a new arena.
Coincidence??
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... :-D
hmm...I wonder if BK can trade with Memphis to get #4 and guarantee Wright or Horford...
you really think a team is gonna move out of the top five to pick some scrub at 21
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 22, 2007, 09:07:48 PM
I read somewhere that Seattle was in pretty significant danger of losing the Sonics if they didn't get a new arena.
Coincidence??
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... :-D
The group that bought them are based in OKC and with the reception the Hornets got playing there the last 2 years it's a pretty distinct possibility. I don't know if Oden would really make an impact on that. He doesn't seem to be that marketable. Awesome player but from what I've seen, kind of lacks personality. Not to mention that the dude looks like he's 50 so I doubt you'll be seeing his grill plastered all over the place on billboards and what not .
Durant would be the better choice for Seattle if they're looking for a marketable player who will really generate revenue to help finance a new stadium. JMO.
I want Horford. No shot, but we can hope.
Thornton seems okay.
ANYONE, and I mean anyone, but Joe Kim Noah.
I wonder if the NBA rigged Boston getting boned for tanking games? That would be funny. Someone should give Danny Ainge a brain scan to see whats goin on up in his empty head. Bwahahaha...and the frozen envelope goes to...BOSTON. Hope Danny had a good $30K talk with Ms. Durant during the NCAAs
If they NBA rigged it, they didn't want either guy going to Portland. The Sonics make sense, they could easily be in Vegas in a few years, and having a superstar there is key. But Portland? No way.
BK needs to move up. They really don't have that much of need for 3 first round picks, getting a PF is essential.
sportscenter mock has conley jr going third...if this is remotely true then farg me...thats who the sixers really need...hes gonna be a stud one
What do you think about Acie Law? A lot of sites have him going to them at 12.
I would prefer to see a big man; either Hibbert if he falls or a power forward who can kill it on the boards.
Looks like Hibbert is going back to Georgetown
That sucks, King said there were 12 players he liked in this draft and I'm assuming Hibbert was one of them.
Well, shtein.
I guess I'd be happy with Al THornton
i like law a lot and would take him in a heartbeat
this power forward class (especially for the kind of four the sixers need) is weak imo and theres no one thats gonna be at 12 at that position that i would take
if hes there and he might be because of his weight issues id love to get big baby with the knicks pick in the 2nd...if he can get in shape he is exactly what they need...hes a rebounding machine...problem is becaue of his weight hes stuck at the four for the rest of his life...and he can be taken advantage there by taller and especially quicker players...but in the second round id be all over it
1. law/brewer
2. rush/bellini
3. davis/davidson
Big Baby = Tractor Traylor?
But youre right; I'd take him in the 2nd no doubt.
They mentioned Josh McRoberts on CSN too...please, no. He's already on the team and is named Shav Randolph.
josh mcroberts is the pilsbury dough boy....hes got the worst nba PF body ive ever seen
It wouldn't matter if he looked the part otherwise anyway. He's white.
Spencer Hawes too.
No whiteys, please.
i like this guy...
(http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/library/players/small/marco-belinelli-hd.jpg)
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 23, 2007, 10:09:38 AM
Looks like Hibbert is going back to Georgetown
awesome. as a georgetown fan i love it. and i don't think the sixers would have be able to grab him at 12 anyway. he just started to really find his game last year. there were a few times when he really made other players look like litle kids on the floor. he's going to start dominating next year.
He'll probably be the #1 pick next year
RIZZO
Is there any chance that the Sixers can package some of the picks that they have?
If they can't Law is the guy I would love to see them draft.
TODD
OMGSOMEPEOPLEONHEREKNOWSOMEOTHERPEOPLESREALNAMES!
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 23, 2007, 12:57:02 PM
He'll probably be the #1 pick next year
Hibbert? Hell no. Almost no chance. Beasley, Mayo, Rose, are going to be the Oden - Durant - Wright of next year, only with a bit less star power. Then throw in Batum, Gordon, Arthur, etc and Hibbert lasts to the end of the lottery.
igy, Belinelli had an awful year in Italy. I like him and it would be farging awesome to draft him as a PG, but not with a lotto pick. I'd be fine with him at 21 though.
At this point I want Thornton at 12.
who said lotto pick youd have to be insane to take him there?
i also dont agree hes a point guard...hes a long way away but he has the potential to be a ginobli with an even better shot
totally agree on hibbert no ways hes a number one pick...and going back to gtown is a huge mistake...the hoyas got a ton of gunners on that team that will be coming into their own next year...including freshamn guard named chris wright whos gonna take 25 shots a game if he can get away with it
Quote from: Dillen on May 23, 2007, 02:14:35 PM
Hibbert? Hell no. Almost no chance. Beasley, Mayo, Rose, are going to be the Oden - Durant - Wright of next year, only with a bit less star power. Then throw in Batum, Gordon, Arthur, etc and Hibbert lasts to the end of the lottery.
I disagree. No chance he goes lower than top 3 next year, assuming he doesn't get hurt.
they get ausin freeman next year too. who knows, lots of shots for the other guys might mean mad rebounds and points for hibbert in the middle.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 23, 2007, 02:21:36 PM
who said lotto pick youd have to be insane to take him there?
i also dont agree hes a point guard...hes a long way away but he has the potential to be a ginobli with an even better shot
Considering you start talking about it right after the lottery, I assumed that's what you were talking about.
I know Belinelli wouldnt be a true PG, but he has a good handle and I'd rather have a 6'5 sharp shooting PG with Iguodala and Carney (in the future) rather than scrub - Belinelli - Iguodala.
Hibbert is a good player, but there are players with loads of more potential than him. His "athletic" ability is going to hold him back as a prospect, regardless of how much it didnt matter when he played. You've got guys in 08 that are being compared to studs like Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Joe Johnson, etc. On top of being great players, these guys have all the athletic ability in the world. Of course none of this matters if Hibbert stays in the 07 draft, because no one really knows yet.
I know Belinelli wouldnt be a true PG, but he has a good handle and I'd rather have a 6'5 sharp shooting PG with Iguodala and Carney (in the future) rather than scrub - Belinelli - Iguodala.
im thinking
1 - law
2 - bellini
3 - iguodala
i just dont see bellini ever being a pg...like i said i see him as ginobli with a better shot...making him a true two rather than a small slasher three
i realize we are way ahead of ourselves and bellini might be a total bust much less become a starter...im speaking in terms of if they all develop and play to their maximum potential
One thing I dont like about Belinelli is his shot selection. I saw a couple of Italy games in the FIBA Championships, he takes absolutely some awful shots. Some of it has to do with the fact that his team isn't good and he needs to be the one to score. He's a great shooter, but not when he has 3 guys in his face.
Phil Jasner said on DNL yesterday that the Sixers don't like Hawes.
Thad Young is probably going to shoot up the draft charts soon enough. I'd like him at 12. He's the only one whose going to be around at 12 with superstar potential. Before the season, he has rated above durant by some.
Wrong thread.
I wouldn't mind Thaddeus. I wouldn't be thrilled with it, but there are far worse options.
Considering there aren't good big men (except Hawes, which is debatable) going to be available at 12, would anyone be completely against Javaris Crittenton there? The best guys left at 12 (aside from Crittenton) are going to be guys like Thornton and Thad Young . They are both mainly a 3 which the Sixers dont need. There's no point in reaching for a big man at 12 because there's no difference in what you'll get at 12 opposed to 21. Crittenton needs polishing and definitely could use a year or two under Miller, and he could turn out to be a real stud. I saw a number of his games this year and never came away super impressed, but those were against the best teams in the nation. I looked up his stats and he was much better than I thought people gave him credit for. 14.4 points, 5.8 assists and 3.7 rebounds in 31 minutes is real solid, especially in the ACC. The only thing he seems to have a problem with is turnovers, where he almost average four a game, which is way too high. Most of his high turnover games either came against the best defenses (Memphis, UNC) or when he played 36+ minutes, which is excusable to a point as a freshman. I really wouldn't mind him at 12.
My gut tells me King is going to trade up
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 25, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
My gut tells me King is going to trade up
My gut tells me that whoever they trade up for will SUCK
Its one of the deepest drafts in history. As long as Billy and Dileo do their homework, we should be able to get a stud. I'm not a fan of having 4 picks though, so hopefully we package some to move up in the draft and get a better pick. Maybe 21+30 to get a pick in the teens???
My gut tells me King is going to trade up
i kinda have this feeling as well
i think the drafts depth is overrated..i think a basketball writer woke up one day about eight months ago and thought that with the one year college rule it would be a good story to say this is the deepest draft in one million years...im sorry im no expert but i dont see it...it looks like every other draft ive ever seen
thus i say trade all your picks to move up from 12 if you can get your man
Exactly. NBA drafts are notoriously NOT deep. If you get the one good player you covet, you're in good shape.
Trading ALL of your picks for someone other than the top 2 is stupid. If the player busts, you're farged. Obviously if you get Brandan Wright or Al Horford, they aren't likely to bust, but then the team still has no depth whatsoever. I'm fine with trading the 30th pick and the 2nd rounder, although I'd rather trade the 30th because you have nothing to lose with the 2nd rounder.
Consider it this way: You trade all of your picks to move up, this is basically what you are doing.
Allen Iverson, 1st rounder, 2nd rounder for draft pick, Andre Miller
Awful deal. Absolutely awful.
old school
(http://spawn.com/toys/basketball/nbalegends3/mmalone/images/nbalegends3_mmalone_photo_01_dp.jpg)
Considering they have 4 picks this year, would anyone be interested in a 76ers mock contest similar to the Eagles one? Wouldn't exactly be hard to pull off, just naming 4 players.
Consider it this way: You trade all of your picks to move up, this is basically what you are doing.
Allen Iverson, 1st rounder, 2nd rounder for draft pick, Andre Miller
Awful deal. Absolutely awful
21 isnt worth much
30 is actually a pick people dont want cause of its money issues
and 2nd rounders are a joke
whichs why they wont be able to trade up as everything but 12 carries little weight...but if you can find a sucker to package all the picks to move up then you do it
id rather move up and get a horford or conley....or even a brewer...than have thaddeus young and marc gasol or something like that
The only reason I hate the idea is that if the player busts, you are absolutely farged. As far as I'm concerned, I don't feel there is anyone to trade up for out of the top 4, Oden, Durant, Wright and Horford. I know Conley is a very good prospect, but I'd rather have Crittenton - Splitter - Hardin or something like that rather than just Conley. Outside of the top 4, you can find those type of players in almost any draft, and I don't think giving up 3 picks for a guy you can find next year is very smart.
you really would only be giving up one pick...no one wants the 30 and the second rounder is virtually worthless...i wouldnt do it just to do it but if a guy they really like is there then you go for it....
i read a rumor somewhere that Portland is offering Randolph and Jack to Atlanta for the #3 so they can take Conley to play with Oden...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-6BVoi7LTZo
24 years ago today
That video is a fake
kevin durant couldn't bench 185 pounds in workouts.
I don't know why people are surprised, he's lanky.
but he's still gong to be a top-2 pick in the nba draft. that's pathetic.
that being said, his wigspan is like 7' something, so that's gotta be a little harder than your average bench press.
durant is a teenage kid with a 7 foot wingspan...185 feels more like 285...and the weight has to travel much further with a wingspan like that
i dont know if you guys remember luke schenscher that stiff from georgia tech...i remember when he came into the acc they talked about how he couldnt bench 100 lbs and by the time he left he was up to 225
bottom line is durant is still gonna physically mature a lot and these numbers are absolutely meaningless right now
not to mention his game is not gonna be to bang inside with people like elton brand
Dude can't put up 185?! Hahahaahahhahahaahahaha. I should have gone pro.
That really is pathetic if he cant do 185 once, even if it doesn't effect his play. If I was one of the best college players in years, and just about the only thing against me is strength, I'd lift my ass off. I really don't understand why you wouldn't. Hell, Julian and Brandan Wright are both weak as hell and they lifted it twice.
He can't do 185, but no team besides Portland has the balls to pass on him.
That's one retarded ass statement. Why would someone even want "the balls to pass on him?"
"Hey guys guess what?!?!?! I'm going to pass on drafting Kevin Durant!"
"You're farging retarded."
"I know, but my balls are HUGE!"
I still don't understand how it's possible for him to not be able to bench 185 pounds. He WEIGHS more than that. Christ.
again when you have a seven foot wingspan lifting 185 is like lifting 285...the fact that he cant lift 185 at 6'11 with a seven foot wing means absolutely nothing...less than nothing in fact....especially at 19 years old...i guarantee you kevin mchale couldnt bench 185 at age 19...in fact he wasnt even asked too
this is why the internet makes me sick sometimes...some loser posts on a blog that he couldnt lift 185 and people who know nothing about anything start running around the internet in a tizzy
185 pounds is 185 pounds. He can't lift it. He obviously sucks at everything. Especially sports. But especially being hetero.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 14, 2007, 12:15:24 PM
...i guarantee you kevin mchale couldnt bench 185 at age 19...in fact he wasnt even asked too
The 80s were a lot different then now. No one cared about this stuff.
I personally don't care that Durant can't do 185. It doesn't effect him when he plays, but for the level of athlete and condition he is in, he should be able too.
The 80s were a lot different then now. No one cared about this stuff.
exactly my point
He sucks at life. He might as well be a volleyball player.
i would love to see durant in spandex. love it.
nbadraft.net's new mock:
12. Philadelphia Javaris Crittenton 6-4 194 PG G.Tech Fr.
21. Philadelphia Daequan Cook 6-5 210 SG Ohio St. Fr
30. Philadelphia Sean Williams 6-10 235 PF BC Jr.
38. Philadelphia Carl Landry 6-9 235 PF Purdue Sr.
Rumor that we might move up to New Jersey's pick by packaging 21 and 30.
I saw on the bottom line that Shavlik Randolph exercised his options or something.
And Shav's stunt double - Josh McRoberts will be in for a workout today.
i'm surpised shav even made the espn ticker...i know some sixers fans like the guy but he's garbage.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 23, 2007, 10:33:52 AM
And Shav's stunt double - Josh McRoberts will be in for a workout today.
I hate Duke more than the next person, but McRoberts and Shav's similiarities end after being white and going to Duke. McRoberts may not develop into much of a NBA player, but he's athletic, can dribble, and can shoot. He has the tools to turn into something. Shav was just a goofy tall trashcan with arms.
McRoberts is soft. We need some toughness inside. McRoberts was so scared against VCU.
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1446/kobephillyhs1.jpg)
That's not even funny.
PG is gonna shtein a golden brick when she sees that photo.
:-D
Not only does that picture disgust me in ways I never thought possible (I actually feel dirty from seeing it) but you used Sheldon Brown's number.
I'm going to shower now.
Goodbye.
see...something good came out of posting that pic. :P
Quote from: hunt on June 25, 2007, 12:00:41 PM
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1446/kobephillyhs1.jpg)
Yes please.
That would be the closest thing ever to making me not a Sixers fan anymore.
I'd still root for the Sixers I would just boo him every time he touched the ball. Balance.
and the first time he went for 45, everybody would love him
Ding. Beat me to it, Mo.
The Kobe hate is ridiculous in this forum. The guy is one of the top-five players in the league and he would instantly make that laughingstock of a franchise an immediate playoff contender in the East.
But sure, he sucks and no one wants him there.
:-D
not me, in fact, he could hit a 3 pointer to win the NBA championship and I'd boo. farg him.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 25, 2007, 03:25:07 PM
Ding. Beat me to it, Mo.
The Kobe hate is ridiculous in this forum. The guy is one of the top-five players in the league and he would instantly make that laughingstock of a franchise an immediate playoff contender in the East.
But sure, he sucks and no one wants him there.
:-D
Your opinion on this subject is void Magic fan.
I'd cheer for his wife:
(http://www.superphotospace.com/images/8%20Vanessa%20Laine%20Bryant%20wife%20of%20Kobe_44a153aa47e58.jpg)
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 25, 2007, 03:25:35 PM
not me, in fact, he could hit a 3 pointer to win the NBA championship and I'd boo. farg him.
I don't even care that much about basketball, and I think this is ridiculous.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 25, 2007, 03:25:35 PM
not me, in fact, he could hit a 3 pointer to win the NBA championship and I'd boo. farg him.
Right on.
I could never cheer for that loser ever. I'd be ecstatic that the Sixers won the title, but wouldn't credit Kobe in any way shape or form.
Terrell Owens.
Tommy McDonald!
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 25, 2007, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 25, 2007, 03:25:07 PM
Ding. Beat me to it, Mo.
The Kobe hate is ridiculous in this forum. The guy is one of the top-five players in the league and he would instantly make that laughingstock of a franchise an immediate playoff contender in the East.
But sure, he sucks and no one wants him there.
:-D
Your opinion on this subject is void Magic fan.
I'd cheer for his wife:
(http://www.superphotospace.com/images/8%20Vanessa%20Laine%20Bryant%20wife%20of%20Kobe_44a153aa47e58.jpg)
You're in agreement with King Cole.
I win.
PS: I'd bark at her Cheerio any farging day.
That'd be sweet. He could just drive to his old stomping grounds in Lower Merion and rape bitches.
Quote
Kobe Returns A Hero To Lower Merion High School
(AP) ARDMORE, Pa. Even in the stuffed halls of his former high school, where he is fervently pursued by wide-eyed students with pens and cell phone cameras in hand, Kobe Bryant can feel at ease.
At Lower Merion High School, Bryant is not the former accused rapist with a tarnished public image, the player who ran off Shaq, or even a "HOMETOWN ZERO" -- which the Philadelphia Daily News blasted over his photo on the back page of Friday's paper.
No, here, Kobe Bryant is nothing but a hero. Kobe Bryant is home.
"He's my idol," said Tobi Ajirotutu, an 11th grade junior varsity basketball player.
"This is pretty special," added varsity team captain Adam Ellison.
Bryant is still the most popular guy around at Lower Merion High, in the Philadelphia suburbs, and his trip back on Friday before the Lakers played the 76ers sent the student population into a frenzy not unlike when he led the 1996 basketball team to a state championship.
"It brings me back to where it all began, before everything got started," Bryant said.
The Los Angeles Lakers star took softball questions, flashed a warm smile during a pep talk and visited with old teachers when he wasn't tailed by a growing mob of students astonished that the All-Star had dropped by just to say hello and "smell the gym."
One message he wanted to get across: Philly and Lower Merion is always in his heart.
"It's always been there," Bryant said. "Since I've been playing in the NBA, I always come back. Always. I'll never forget what the school has done for me, what the city has done for me."
While the students love him, the relationship between Philly fans and Bryant has been strained ever since the 2001 NBA finals against the Sixers when he said he was "coming to Philly to cut their hearts out." That began an unforgiving attitude from the often-brutal, always-booing Sixers fanatics that's lasted to this day.
When commissioner David Stern presented Bryant with the All-Star game MVP trophy in 2002 in Philadelphia, the boos were long and loud and he later said he was hurt. Bryant's been booed ever since and expected a similar response Friday night.
"I don't think that's ever going to fully change," said Bryant's high school coach, Gregg Downer. "I do know that if he played for the Sixers, he'd be worshipped."
Bryant walked from the band room to another part of the school, then a classroom and eventually the boys' locker room, where he gave the varsity team a private talk. He may as well have been handing out the answer key to the SAT, some lifetime hall passes and iPods the way the students swarmed him, screaming "We love you, Kobe!"
"What's up, y'all? Aren't you supposed to be in class right now?" he told a large group.
Bryant, who spent eight years of his childhood in Italy before returning to go to high school, joked he wasn't exactly a model student.
"I didn't take any notes, which got me in trouble quite often, but I was pretty good at remembering things," Bryant said.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 25, 2007, 03:31:24 PM
Terrell Owens.
Yup.
LA - who I hate - stood by him through the rape scandal and traded away Shaq to make him happy. He rewards them by asking to be traded which is nothing more than a ploy for attention. He's not that good, I don't consider him a top 5 player, and his selfisness on the court would rival Iverson's, it would only be a matter of time before he pulled the same shtein. farg him.
He's not a top five player in the NBA?
LOL - that comment was King Colerrific.
Stop.
You guys would all embrace Bryantsy if he came to Philly all apologetic and won a title.
Stop pretending you have scruples.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 25, 2007, 03:35:13 PM
You're in agreement with King Cole.
I win.
PS: I'd bark at her Cheerio any farging day.
sun shines on a dogs ass every now and then
I always thought she was very underrated.
it's Kobers
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 25, 2007, 03:37:27 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 25, 2007, 03:31:24 PM
Terrell Owens.
Yup.
LA - who I hate - stood by him through the rape scandal and traded away Shaq to make him happy. He rewards them by asking to be traded which is nothing more than a ploy for attention. He's not that good, I don't consider him a top 5 player, and his selfisness on the court would rival Iverson's, it would only be a matter of time before he pulled the same shtein. farg him.
Take it for what it's worth, but Shaq publicly said about a week or 2 ago that he never felt that Kobe was the reason he got traded. He said it was strictly a business decision by the Lakers to move him.
Like him or hate him, Kobe is a top 5 player in the league. Top 3 imo and possibly the best all around player on the court right now. The latter being subject to argument and debate.
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
It is amazing how inconceivably stupid you are.
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
hahahahahahahahaha! How you manage to continuously stretch the limits of stupidity and ignorance are beyond me. But it's actually starting to impress me.
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
I'm not even a big basketball fan, and I know enough to say...
HA
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
I agree with your first sentence, he thought he was the next Jordan when in reality he's not even close.
But he's definitely a top 10 player, I argue he's not a top 5 player because he's selfish and can't carry a team.
The thing about trading for Kobe though is that you'd have to give up Iguodala, 12, 21, carney, miller and a future first to get him. Maybe plus an additional player. Too much for a player that hasn't proven he can win without a Shaq, and also a player who is going to be 29 in a month and change.
Regardless I wouldn't take him for free, I can't stand him. Lakers fans hate him now too, for the BS he's been pulling down there lately. He isn't just selfish, there is something truly wrong with that dude. Like he constantly needs to have people in a vulnerable position to feel powerful.
Like he's trying to make the front office feel, and like he made that girl feel in Colorado.
That girl loved every minute of it and don't even try to pretend that she didn't. Gold-digging bag of slut.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 25, 2007, 03:56:12 PM
That girl loved every minute of it and don't even try to pretend that she didn't. Gold-digging bag of slut.
*ding*
Quote from: rjs246 on June 25, 2007, 03:56:12 PM
That girl loved every minute of it and don't even try to pretend that she didn't. Gold-digging bag of slut.
POTD
Quote from: rjs246 on June 25, 2007, 03:56:12 PM
That girl loved every minute of it and don't even try to pretend that she didn't. Gold-digging bag of slut.
Boo-yah!
Quote from: SunMo on June 25, 2007, 03:23:27 PM
and the first time he went for 45, everybody would love him
Wrong.
Anyone that thinks I'd EVER root for him, they're wrong.
I'll even go one further. I would completely stop WATCHING the Sixers if they traded for that piece of shtein. Until he retired or was traded again.
i meant besides you
These are the same people who were ejaculating all over themselves and each other when TO came to town. Same farging thing.
TO never bashed Philly before coming to the city. TO is a nutjob, but he isn't a sicko like Kobe is. TO has mental issues. Kobe is just a creep plain and simple.
Your hair-splitting is only proving my point further.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 25, 2007, 04:56:59 PM
Quote from: SunMo on June 25, 2007, 03:23:27 PM
and the first time he went for 45, everybody would love him
Wrong.
Anyone that thinks I'd EVER root for him, they're wrong.
I'll even go one further. I would completely stop WATCHING the Sixers if they traded for that piece of shtein. Until he retired or was traded again.
I felt the same way about Iverson and stopped watching the Sixers almost entirely during the time he was playing in Philly.
I actively rooted against them because of him, so I'll buy what you're selling here.
that's a damn shame, you missed out on one of the most exciting players in NBA history.
I'll live.
Even discussing this is a waste of time because the Sixers don't have close to enough to give up to get him. Nor are the Sixers on his "list" of where to go.
I don't like the dude. Never have and can't see myself liking him now. Especially after this whole episode of drama.
I'd almost rather see Deion Sanders in an Eagles jersey than Kobe in a Sixers jersey
Michael Irvin in an Eagles uni or Kobe in a Sixers uni?
Ridiculous.
Irvin in an Eagles jersey I'll take any day.
On a side note, Rodney Stuckey is climbing the draft boards and has a lot of teams intrigued. If the Sixers took him I wouldn't be all that upset. At 12, the only player I really like better is Thornton.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2007, 07:29:58 PM
Michael Irvin in an Eagles uni or Kobe in a Sixers uni?
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 07:33:45 PM
Irvin in an Eagles jersey I'll take any day.
Has he now finally earned a banning?
Hey, as much as I hate Irvin, he's always said he liked Philly and the fans, and respect their passion.
and he's never made an entire commercial just to spite the Philly fans or said he ripped the fans hearts out of their chests.
Your arguments go from the merely stupid and uncoordinated to absolute absurdity in light speed.
I don't see any argument going on here. I just said why I hate Kobe more than Irvin.
King Cole would rather see this...
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>:D
That's an abomination.
Especially considering Bartrum just retired, and they're willing to give up his number to the next scrub that comes along?!?!!?
CSN's 30-to-1 show had a mock draft with the Sixers taking Julian Wright, Morris Almond and Nick Fazekas
tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft
Quote from: King Cole on June 25, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.
He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.
Jesus.
You are a farging vegetable. Or at least you would be if you improved your IQ about 50 points.
I mean, the cat was already out of the bag about how mind-numbingly stupid you are... but you continue to amaze. Bravo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2007, 09:19:11 AM
tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft
I wouldn't count on it. King said he thinks it would cost too much to trade up to a spot that is actually worth trading up for, like in the top 7 or so.
Quote from: EagleFeva on June 26, 2007, 09:39:20 AM
You are a farging vegetable.
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2007, 09:19:11 AM
tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft
al horford do it
id love horford but how do they get up that high without having to give up iguodala....no way picks and sammy get you there do they?
with horford most likely out of reach i hope they are looking at conley
Atlanta holds the 3rd pick and wants a point guard, King joked about trading Miller and #12 for that pick. This is what ensued:
link (http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/deepsixer/)
QuoteMarc Narducci -
Sixers Looking At Moving Up
Now it appears as if the 76ers have changed their tune (or at least their public stance) and will try to move up for a pick higher than No. 12 in Thursday's draft.
President and general manager Billy King says the Sixers are looking at that option and that there are viable possibilities.
King stopped after that, so it's now up to our imagination to see where the Sixers could move up.
It's no secret that Atlanta with the third and 11th pick is looking to make a trade. Atlanta needs a point guard and King himself said there was a rumor that the Sixers would trade Andre Miller and the No. 12 pick for the No. 3 selection.
King laughed it off, but actually it's a trade from the Hawks perspective that makes a lot of sense. Atlanta could do much worse than having Miller at the point, but from this vantage point, the Sixers would need more than just the No. 3 pick in return.
The problem with the Sixers situation is that unless they are willing to deal Miller, they have very few other tradable assets, especially since they refuse to part with Andre Iguodala.
A team that is looking to deal its pick is Boston at No. 5, but again, the Sixers don't match up well with the Celtics. Milwaukee at No. 6 doesn't seem inclined to deal. Minnesota, once again deep into Kevin Garnett trade rumors, would possibly part with the choice, but would the Wolves want the Sixers' No. 12 and 21 pick for No. 7? That might be too steep for the Sixers, unless there is somebody at No. 7 they absolutely see as an impact player. Yet as one source said, Minnesota can't worry about swapping picks until they explore all options with Garnett.
Charlotte at No. 8 might be interested in trading the pick, according to sources, but the Bobcats, who also have the 22nd choice in the first round, are always looking for some payroll relief. Charlotte's Gerald Wallace can opt out of his contract and shooting guard Matt Carroll of Hatboro-Horsham is a free agent.
Maybe the Bobcats wouldn't mind trading down for some extra picks. If the Sixers offered No. 12 and No. 30 for No. 8, that probably wouldn't get it done, but could be a starting point.
Chicago at No. 9 would be another potential suitor for the Sixers, but a source familiar with the Bulls situation says they are right now bogged down in the Garnett and Kobe Bryant trade rumors and have not believed to have talked to the Sixers as of yet.
Chicago is looking for more of a veteran presence, but the Bulls appear to like two of the players that the Sixers have targeted – Georgetown forward Jeff Green and Chinese power forward Yi Jianlian.
If Chicago is involved, the Sixers would likely have to swap picks and add a No. 1 or No. 2 pick in the future. Chicago doesn't need any more young players now. Since the Chicago and the Sixers swapped picks last year in the first round, it can't be discounted.
Sacramento at No. 10 would likely only swap with the Sixers if the Kings knew that they could get a player they really wanted at No. 12.
It seems the most realistic options for the Sixers would be Atlanta, Minnesota and Charlotte, but anything is possible in what should be a wild draft.
The Sixers could stand pat and make settle for somebody such as Florida State forward Al Thornton, which would be a boost to the offense and not much of one to the defense. Or the Sixers could roll the dice and look to move up if they truly feel there is an impact player.
In this draft, they have to get somebody who will be a significant rotation player in the 2007-2008 season. It appears as if the Sixers are beginning to believe that person doesn't exist at the No. 12 pick.
Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.
Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.
id do it in a heartbeat...the picks other than 12 mean little and miller for horford is a no brainer
yea id do it. then use some freed up money and sign chancy billups? hes out there now. alls you gotta do is backload his contract to the next few years. this coming season, the sixers still owe aaron mckie and chris webber over $20 million.
There's no freed up money for free agents since they're still over the cap
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 26, 2007, 12:03:17 PM
Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.
yep...but i doubt atl would do it. if atl is smart, they'll come out of this draft with horford & a pg like crittenton or law.
Its not like they're winning the title this year, let Louis Williams play the point. If he does good, great, if he sucks they'll have cap space to sign another PG.
i'm on board but i don't think atl would give up #3 for miller...he's just not good enough, imo.
anyway, here's a blurb from nbadraft.net:
QuotePhiladelphia 76ers (12, 21, 30, 38)
How they could win: Due to their excessive amount of picks, the Sixers will be able to add some potential at every single position. The Sixers will likely have a shot at either Florida State's Al Thornton and Washington's Spencer Hawes with their first pick (12th). Their second selection (21st) will come down to another big man- possibly Duke's Josh McRoberts or Brazil's Tiago Splitter. With the last pick in the first round, Philly will hope a talented point guard, such as Oregon's Aaron Brooks or Nevada's Ramon Sessions will be on the board. They could go anywhere with their last selection (38th), but likely will continue to attempt to upgrade the frontcourt by drafting Pittsburgh C Aaron Gray, or Purdue PF Carl Landry.
How they could win big: There probably won't be any takers if Philly tries to trade up for a stud such as Al Horford. The best case scenario on draft night would be for the Sixers to get great value on all their picks. A draft consisting of Thornton, Rodney Stuckey/Acie Law, McRoberts, and Marcus Williams would be an example of that.
How they could lose: The Sixers will be in a precarious situation in the late first round because the best available players will mostly be small forwards/shooting guards, a positions that Philly is more than set at with Andre Iguodala, Rodney Carney, and Kyle Korver. They could end up reaching for big men with those picks, or even worse, draft a swingman that will never get any playing time.
they arent getting horford in that deal unless atlanta is the dumbest team in the history of sports
were they to trade for just miller
in two years when miller was on his last legs in the league
the hawks would be right back to where they are now
no point guard and a bunch of young kids who dont know how to play
now if other players are involved thats different but atl aint trading #3 for miller and #12
someone might wanna let draftnet know that the sixers cant take three american college in round one because of contract issues...the number 30 pick will almost 100% be traded or a euro who will come over in a couple years
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 26, 2007, 12:12:27 PM
There's no freed up money for free agents since they're still over the cap
still? yikes. even if they hypothetically trade miller in this made up deal?
big time free agent spending doesnt happen until they come out from under webbers deal
Quote from: MDS on June 26, 2007, 12:31:30 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 26, 2007, 12:12:27 PM
There's no freed up money for free agents since they're still over the cap
still? yikes. even if they hypothetically trade miller in this made up deal?
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Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2007, 12:32:23 PM
big time free agent spending doesnt happen until they come out from under webbers deal
yep...that's when they'll sign lebron.
I hope King doesn't take Thornton at 12, I can't see taking a player who's older than Iguodala. Julian Wright and Arron Afflalo are in for a workout today (sixers.com). I'd be happy with Wright assuming King doesn't move up.
Who's Billy Kane?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 26, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
I hope King doesn't take Thornton at 12, I can't see taking a player who's older than Iguodala. Julian Wright and Arron Afflalo are in for a workout today (sixers.com). I'd be happy with Wright assuming King doesn't move up.
maybe he'll trade up for the chinaman...that would be exciting!
id be very happy with wright at 12
my ultimate scenario (outside of the unlikely possibility of getting horford)
trade miller and 30 to move up and get conley if he falls enough...and still have 12 left to nab another guy
it might take miller & #12 to move up far enough to get conley...i'd consider it if they could also trade #21 & 30 to get back into the teens for their 2nd pick.
Quote from: hunt on June 26, 2007, 12:43:34 PM
it might take miller & #12 to move up far enough to get conley...i'd consider it if they could also trade #21 & 30 to get back into the teens for their 2nd pick.
pretty much what I was gonna say.
it might take miller & #12 to move up far enough to get conley
id do this as well i was just stating my best case scenario after getting horford
12 is no mans land...id do almost anything within reason to move up from there
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2007, 12:53:09 PM
12 is no mans land...
True. Look at this (http://www.nba.com/history/draft_top13.html).
GEORGE LYNCH!
Actually the #13 picks are way more impressive, except for that not-top-50 guy in Kobe Bryant.
i mean in this particular draft
I'm surprised you're not thrilled that your point is also historically significant.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 26, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
Actually the #13 picks are way more impressive, except for that not-top-50 guy in Kobe Bryant.
Something as monumentally stupid as that should never be mentioned again.
On the "ESPN NBA Draft Special" (The one where they only talk about the top 5 players..what else is farging new) they said the 76ers have offered picks 12 and 21 to the Bucks for pick 6. The Bucks will only consider if the top 2 and Horford, Conley and Yi are all gone.
In other news, I just got stung by a bee.
Quote from: Dillen on June 26, 2007, 02:49:30 PM
On the "ESPN NBA Draft Special" (The one where they only talk about the top 5 players..what else is farging new) they said the 76ers have offered picks 12 and 21 to the Bucks for pick 6. The Bucks will only consider if the top 2 and Horford, Conley and Yi are all gone.
In other news, I just got stung by a bee.
in other words, that trade won't happen
Why? It's definitely possible all those guys get taken. Boston really likes Yi (supposedly), you'd figure Memphis can't hold onto Damon Stoudamire forever, and Atlanta really likes Horford (again, suppposedly.)
right, but why would you want to get up there if all those guys are gone?
I want the Sixers to draft Noah just to see the reaction of everyone here.
yeah theres really no need to move up if its not for horford or conley
i mostly think that trade won't happen because Brewer will get taken and Yi will be there for Milwaukee
Quote from: SunMo on June 26, 2007, 02:59:39 PM
right, but why would you want to get up there if all those guys are gone?
Brandan Wright or Jeff Green, conceivably. I really don't think Corey Brewer is a top 5 pick at all, he'll be like a more athletic Bruce Bowen. I wouldn't want to trade up for Green, I might pull the trigger if it was for Wright.
i forgot about Wright...i would probably do that trade to get him.
Horford
Wright
Thornton
That's who I want. I dont want Chinaman, Hawes or some other project.
Get Al Horford...hopefully he slips to 6ish.
theres very little chance horford makes it past three...i think six would be out of the question
cnnsi did GM rankings on their website
bk finished 26th
Billy King, Philadelphia 76ers
Pluses: Larry Brown was essentially running the show from 1997 until 2003. It was King's job to talk Brown out of wanting to either quit or trade his entire roster about twice a week during that six-year span. Working from '03 on, it was nice to see King grab Kyle Korver in the second round that year, nab Andre Iguodala with the 8th pick in '04 and dump Glenn Robinson on the New Orleans Hornets for Jamal Mashburn's insured expiring contract in February '05. King did well in dumping Allen Iverson for draft picks plus Andre Miller, though we don't understand rebuilding with a 31-year-old point guard making eight figures at the helm.
Minuses: Even without Brown calling the shots, he's pointlessly extended the deals of solid but subpar guys like Eric Snow, Greg Buckner and Kenny Thomas, and bid against himself to secure Korver for more than he was worth. He was set to extend Willie Green to an outrageous deal in 2005 before Green tore his ACL in a pickup game, only to hand Green (8.8 points on 8.8 field goal attempts in 19.7 minutes for his career) a five-year deal a year later. Traded for a diminished Chris Webber in February '05 and watched as Webber took the air out of his team's offense and handicapped his team's defense for nearly two seasons. Employed four head coaches between June '03 and May '05. Wasted Iverson's prime.
Bottom line: The Sixers are rebuilding, which is good, but King isn't the man for the job. The Sixers have the 12th, 21st and 30th picks in the draft, but that's not exactly an awe-inspiring lot. Lottery teams rarely trade down for several picks as happens in the NFL. The 76ers are on track to be under the cap in 2008, but not by much.
It really is amazing he still has a job
not when you consider Ed Snider is the President
Next GM of the 76ers: Robert Earle Clarke
link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20070627_Sixers_ready_to_grab_the_best_they_can_at_any_pick.html)
QuoteKing said there were three to four scenarios in which the Sixers could move up. He then offered yet another rumor that he read on ESPN.com: If Milwaukee at No. 6 doesn't get the players it wants, the Bucks might be willing to deal that choice for the Sixers' 12th and 21st picks.
After delivering this rumor, King smiled.
His thoughts?
"No comment."
2 possible trades:
pick 12, pick 30, & hunter to charlotte for pick #8...sixers like brewer, noah, b.wright, or green at #8...really like brewer.
pick 12 & pick 21 to mil for pick #6...sixers only do this if horford or yi are there at 6...horford won't be so that leaves the chinaman ^-^ :paranoid.
How tall is this China guy? Are we basically talking about a poor man's Yao Ming?
he's a Chinese version of Nowitzki or Gasol, but there's questions about the talent he was going against
yep...he's more of a finesse player & they compare him to dirk or gasol. he's a 7'0 pf/sf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6plJTvMW04
I read somewhere (today's Inky, I think) that they don't have any love for Brewer. Maybe a smokescreen, I dunno.
Apparently Milwaukee is willing to deal that 6 because they want Chinaman and he doesn't want them. Nor does China...they want him in a big market (and Philly is acceptable).
I'd be cool with Jeff Green...I like him. Him at the 3 and Iggy at the 2 is okay.
But I really want a PF...Horford or Thornton.
im not a jeff green fan at all...imo hes a classic college player who wont translate into the pros....brewer on the other hand has a huge upside...i like him...but none of these guys is worth trading up for...at least not giving up 21 to do it...conley and horford thats it...players potentially as good as these other guys can be found at 21 and id rather have two picks to get one right than to trade up and hope a green or brewer turn out
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2007, 10:36:20 AM
im not a jeff green fan at all...imo hes a classic college player who wont translate into the pros....
I feel the same way for the most part, plus Green is similar to Iguoudala/Carney. If they trade up and Brandon Wright is there that would be my pick. I think they'd have to be crazy to pass on him.
i'm a huge jeff green fan but even i don't think he's a good fit for the sixers.
i think brewer is gonna be a great pro and he'll work in nicely with what the sixers already have.
Quote from: hunt on June 27, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
2 possible trades:
pick 12, pick 30, & hunter to charlotte for pick #8...sixers like brewer, noah, b.wright, or green at #8...really like brewer.
pick 12 & pick 21 to mil for pick #6...sixers only do this if horford or yi are there at 6...horford won't be so that leaves the chinaman ^-^ :paranoid.
I'd be all over that top trade if it got them Wright or Green. I know Wright is skinny, but he really got stronger last year. He didn't really play like it, but I could tell from seeing his arms at the end of the year. I hate Noah and don't see a need for Brewer.
The Bucks want Yi but there are some issues about him playing for them if they draft him, but they'd probably rather take him than trade down. They could trade him anyways, and they'd have more leverage if they actually have the player too.
it's funny that even a dude playing in a communist country doesn't want to go to milwaukee.
Milwaukee's got beer. Lots of beer. What's not to like?
Midwestern women.
and their awful accents.
The Sixers like Noah a lot. I can just tell from all BK's comments on him. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sixers traded up high for him.
No kidding you farging idiot. Anyone that has read anything he's said about this years draft could come to that conclusion.
That said, Billy hardly ever tips his hand. I wouldn't be surprised to see him trade up for Noah tomorrow, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even make a push for him.
I'm actually rooting for the Sixers to draft Noah at this point. Hilarity.
at least if they do ill be drunk on a train and not having to witness it
meh. i hated him in college, but it wouldn't kill me if he came to philly. the way he plays, i bet he'd turn into a fan favorite pretty quickly.
I really don't like him at all, but if the Sixers draft him I'd have to learn to deal with it. It's not like he's an awful player, I just hate his personality. Luckily for me (and the other people that don't like his personality) we're Philadelphia fans so we've dealt with our share of corksuckers.
Noah at 12... I would prefer Thornton, but I wouldn't complain.
Noah at 5,6,7,8 would be a disaster. That means a combination of B. Wright/Green/Brewer would've been passed on. It isn't the selection of Noah, it would be who you passed up for him.
Is Joakim Noah the Mateen Cleaves of 2007?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 26, 2007, 03:01:26 PM
I want the Sixers to draft Noah just to see the reaction of everyone here.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 27, 2007, 03:30:01 PM
I'm actually rooting for the Sixers to draft Noah at this point. Hilarity.
Stop sharing my brain. Ass.
theres no possible way to justify having to look at this (http://www.espn.go.com/media/ncb/2006/0403/photo/a_noah_275.jpg) for the next ten years
He is truly hideous looking. :-D
I'd be thrilled with Noah at 12
You can fly a plane through his two front teeth.
How could that be the son of Miss Sweden?
(http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/02/noah.gif)
Ha! That's way better than McLovin.
I was gonna use it but I'm too committed to the Phils countdown to 10,000
So on another board is an insider who has been right a lot of times over the last year, so he's legit. He said ther'es a very good chance that the Sixers trade up, and if they do, look for them to draft Noah, Horford, or Yi. Apparently they don't like Brandon Wright cause he'd be my choice if we traded up.
If we stay 12 look for us to draft Stuckey/one of the Youngs/Thornton/ or Hawes is he falls. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Can't wait for this day to be over. Hopefully we pull off a miracle and land Horford but it's not happening.
I really wish they'd trade Miller, but the insider said there's no chance we trade Miller cause BK likes him.
so an insider threw out the same 27 different scenarios that everyone on this thread has been doing over the last 24 hrs....damn we are good
Get Moses Malone to come out of retirement. He's better than what they have in the middle right now.
Bill Simmons did a mock today and has this as an option for the Celts...
QuoteB.) Swap this pick to Philly along with Delonte West for No. 12, No. 21 and No. 30, then grabbing Al Thornton at No. 12 (the one guy in this draft other than Durant and Oden who will be effective immediately).
I'm ok with that. Horford and West is better than three low lottery picks.
that would be a total rape job and theres zero chance the celtics do it....but im all for it
Horford won't fall to 5, I doubt he gets past the Hawks at 3.
actually i agree, i'm not sure why i said horford.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 27, 2007, 10:16:07 PM
actually i agree, i'm not sure why i said horford.
Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.
Quote from: King Cole on June 27, 2007, 04:31:40 PM
You can fly a plane through his two front teeth.
What about Corey Lidle?
Lidle would have attempted that but ended up poking Noah's eye out.
ok ive come to my two perfect scenarios
1. trade up for conley (i wont even mention horford as thats not gonna happen)
2. stay where they are and take stuckey at 12 and sean williams at 21
money draft
lets hear all yours...or at least the two nba fans that are on the board
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 28, 2007, 09:53:40 AM
Lidle would have attempted that but ended up poking Noah's eye out.
Then smolder for three days.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 28, 2007, 10:27:36 AM
ok ive come to my two perfect scenarios
1. trade up for conley (i wont even mention horford as thats not gonna happen)
2. stay where they are and take stuckey at 12 and sean williams at 21
money draft
lets hear all yours...or at least the two nba fans that are on the board
i never heard much of Stuckey until yesterday when Legler was on with Gargano and they both loved him for the Sixers.
a 6'5" shooting guard who is a pure scorer? IN.
I'm hoping they draft Jordan instead of Bowie.
same here with Stuckey, never heard much about him till a few days ago when it was reported he was one of the 15 potential draftees invited to attend the draft. I'd be thrilled if we somehow ended up with Conley.
Sean Williams at 21 would be a steal and worth the gamble - his potential outweighs his off court problems.
I doubt we're able to trade far enough up to grab Conley, I'm guessing we'll trade to the 7/8/9 area. I like Brandan Wright and think he has room to grow. Could be Green, Chinaman, Julian Wright or Brewer in that area. Honestly I have no frigging clue what King has planned.
I just want a PF and a scorer out of this draft. Horford is guy they need but it probably won't happen. B.Wright, Green, Yi, Brewer or Conley would be OK. Later in the 1st, I'd be OK with Law, Williams or Almond...
i never heard much of Stuckey until yesterday when Legler was on with Gargano and they both loved him for the Sixers.
hes been rising for a few months now...theres lots of videos around on him if you wanna peep
if we don't trade, i want al thornton at 12, crittendon at 21 (probably won't be there), and big baby at 30.
i'd also be ok with getting another big guy at 21 (fazekas or sean williams) and snagging taurean green with 30.
Fazekas at 21 and Green at 30 would make me not watch one Sixers game until both of them are gone. Fazekas will be there in the 2nd round, and Green sucks ass. Against any decent defense he's a turnover machine.
Jesus christ, I just checked and Green averaged 5 three point attempts last year per game and 6 the year before. Gunner much? Not to mention being packed with a talented team and not even averaging over 4 assists a game.
I believe I read in the DN that Stuckey refused to come in for an interview and workout with the Sixers...
My two scenarios:
If they trade up: The dream is to get high enough to get Horford without giving up Igoudala in a trade. If Horford somehow slips past ATL, they need to get up and get him. However that is extremely unlikely so I would like to see B. Wright or Jeff Green.
If they stay at 12: If they stay here and keep 21, 30 and 38 I want Al Thornton at 12, Sean Williams at 21 and Big Baby at 30 (or Aaron Afflalo)...and the ever so popular BPA at 38.
i'm not a huge fazekas fan, but he will most definitely not be around in the second round. if i had to pick between him or sean williams i go with fazekas, because willaims is a bitch.
Go Sixers!
I've officially switched allegiances from the Magic back to the Sixers. If you don't like it you can cram it up your vaginers.
I'd take Williams over him because if you timed him running the entire court, you'd be able to measure it in seconds, not minutes. Fazekas is deathly slow. The Sixers aren't a half court team (as of now) and Fazekas will look like a joke. He can't defend either. Williams' shot blocking is on the elite level. It's not even a question for me really.
Cap-wise can the Sixers afford three #1 draft choices as all three would garner guaranteed contracts?
If they stay at 12: If they stay here and keep 21, 30 and 38 I want Al Thornton at 12, Sean Williams at 21 and Big Baby at 30 (or Aaron Afflalo)
again im preyy sure they cant take three american college players in round one...the contracts wont work out...its one of the reasons they are so inclined to trade...if they end up keeping all three picks then 30 or much less likely 21 will be a euro who will come over in a year or two
if i had to pick between him or sean williams i go with fazekas, because willaims is a bitch.
crazyness...williams could be a bust because of his off the court stuff but his on the court upside is huge....theres a question with fazejus as to whether he can even play in the league at all....with the 12 you dont take a possible problem child but with 21 and having four picks in the draft youre in an ideal spot to take a chance on a guy like sw
They're over the cap even if they only picked at #30, so it doesn't matter. At least they're below the luxury tax level...
Thanks, Ed. I thought they were in trouble cap-wise in terms of paying a luxury tax. That's why I figured we'd see a trade tonight more than anything.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 28, 2007, 12:12:15 PM
again im preyy sure they cant take three american college players in round one...the contracts wont work out...its one of the reasons they are so inclined to trade...if they end up keeping all three picks then 30 or much less likely 21 will be a euro who will come over in a year or two
good point i wasn't really thinking about that. in that case i change my picks to thornton at 12, maybe rudy fernandez the PG from spain at 21, so he can play after andre is gone, then big baby at 30.
They're over the cap even if they only picked at #30, so it doesn't matter
its not a straight cap issue...if they can at all avoid it they do not want to take on three first round contracts...another possibility is that they move back from the 30 spot into the non guaranteed contract second round
Couldn't they pick a European and stash him overseas instead of signing him to a contract?
absolutely and they very well may do that
why i love WIP...some guy just called and said they should trade Miller and 12 to Atlanta for #3 and then trade #21 to Orlando for Jameer Nelson.
just like that.
Quote from: SunMo on June 28, 2007, 01:06:37 PM
why i love WIP...some guy just called and said they should trade Miller and 12 to Atlanta for #3 and then trade #21 to Orlando for Jameer Nelson.
just like that.
Did they also say they should trade #30 for help at wide receiver?
Quote from: SunMo on June 28, 2007, 01:06:37 PM
why i love WIP...some guy just called and said they should trade Miller and 12 to Atlanta for #3 and then trade #21 to Orlando for Jameer Nelson.
just like that.
i like the way he thinks.
The Magic might not re-sign Nelson to a long-term extension. I don't think #21 would get it done but #21 & #30 might.
No, don't make me root for Jaqueer.
He's short, black & covered in tattoos. In other words, he's just like most of the women at Temple. What's not to like?
He went to St. Blows.
What I want:
trade up: Horford(won't happen) so I'd trade up for Green or Wright. I like Green more than Brewer.
at 12: Thornton or Stuckey
What I think will happen: trade up for Noah
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9684/captnoaharkue6.jpg)
Draft Noah.
Holla.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 28, 2007, 01:19:52 PM
The Magic might not re-sign Nelson to a long-term extension. I don't think #21 would get it done but #21 & #30 might.
I like Nelson but I wouldn't give anything more than #30 for him
it sounds like the Sixers really want Green, i'm just not sure that's the best pick for them
Noah is their destiny!
Quote from: King Cole on June 28, 2007, 04:54:29 PM
Noah is their destiny!
Dude, farg Noah. I will never understand why people think he is a lottery pick.
Tony DiLeo (Senior V.P of Basketball Operations) is on DNL right meow. He said they are "trying to move up."
Quote from: NGM on June 28, 2007, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: King Cole on June 28, 2007, 04:54:29 PM
Noah is their destiny!
Dude, farg Noah. I will never understand why people think he is a lottery pick.
I hate Noah. I don't want him. I think the Sixers do badly though.
Yi or Noah....that's what it's looking like :-\
Hahahahahaha. Awful.
What's with all the Noah hate... granted he's not a superstar, but he's going to be a solid PF in the league for years. He's a good defender and actually has a high basketball iq... he'd be a good fit next to the basketball dummy, dalembert.
Quote from: NGM on June 28, 2007, 05:07:06 PM
Tony DiLeo (Senior V.P of Basketball Operations) is on DNL right meow. He said they are "trying to move up."
I found it mildly interesting he wouldn't rule out moving up to the 1 or 2 spot
I have a feeling Noah will wind up having a career similar to Scott Pollard.
Proposed deal:
Celtics get Ray Allen
Seattle gets Szerbiack, West, and the #5 pick.
Ainge is a retard so I'm willing to bet this happens.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 28, 2007, 07:14:06 PM
Proposed deal:
Celtics get Ray Allen
Seattle gets Szerbiack, West, and the #5 pick.
Ainge is a retard so I'm willing to bet this happens.
I would really love to see that happen, but I cannot believe that Ainge is that stupid.
Sal Pal just reported on ESPN that Billy King told him that the Sixers are trying to move up, and could get as high as the Bucks pick at #6.
If Ainge does that deal he should be beaten with the nearest tire iron. I'd love to see the expression on the faces of Boston fans, though. They were expecting Oden or Durant and they end up with... RAY ALLEN!
Hahahahaha!
Quote from: NGM on June 28, 2007, 07:28:39 PM
I would really love to see that happen, but I cannot believe that Ainge is that stupid.
Believe it. :-D
farg Boston.
Celtics get Jesus Shuttlesworth. AHAHAHAHA
Here's Milwaukee. Hopefully no trade..
The Bucks are gonna take the Chinaman whether he likes it or not.
Seattle's gonna have one hell of a team in a few years.
The donger need BRATWURST!
Did the Sixers farg up their pick yet?
(http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key%5Bname%5D,value%5BNOAH%5D&set=key%5Bnumber%5D,value%5B13%5D&set=key%5Bdisplaysize%5D,value%5B220%5D&load=url%5Bhttp://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p889587_customback.chain%5D)
I don't get it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 28, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
I don't get it.
Whoops, hit the wrong jersey. But it's just a matter of time.
It's a jersey with Noah's name on it. Derr.
Damn Bobcats just took the guy I wanted for the Sixers (Brandan Wright). :boom
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 28, 2007, 08:16:50 PM
It's a jersey with Noah's name on it. Derr.
Right, but it was not initially a Sixers jersey.
He's a BULL!
Bulls select Noah. His mom has spectacular cans.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 28, 2007, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 28, 2007, 08:16:50 PM
It's a jersey with Noah's name on it. Derr.
Right, but it was not initially a Sixers jersey.
It was a "throwback" Syracuse Nationals jersey. I clicked the wrong link when I did it the first time.
I really couldn't be happier in this situation. I didn't want them to trade up for Yi or Noah and they're gone. Don't really know who I'd want at 12, Thornton or Thad Young.
Way to jinx it, fingerbanger.
Why is Stephen A. Smith making himself look like a jackass? His angry brotha/Jesse Jackson act is beyond ridiculous.
Sixers are up...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 28, 2007, 08:38:57 PM
Why is Stephen A. Smith making himself look like a jackass? His angry brotha/Jesse Jackson act is beyond ridiculous.
You mean... he's acting like he always acts?
Thaddeus Young.
Well at least he was in the National Honors Society in high school according to Tirico.
I guess Young is alright. Could have went Thornton or Wright.
Hope 21 is Williams and 30 is Davis
eh
Could be MoPete in a few years. Doesn't really solve our PF hole though....
I'm fine with it. No big men should be picked there, and he easily has the most potential.
the most potential for what?
Sixers are 25th in rebounding, have nobody that attacks the glass, and not one person aside from Iggy that can get by a defender on the offensive side (and hes iffy). Thornton was the pick for them (with the most potential), and once again they blow it
I called this pick a while ago. Reese, thornton has no potential, he's 24. If Thad Young was 24 he could have averaged 19 and 7 too against a bunch of teenagers.
Quote from: phillywestbrook36 on June 28, 2007, 09:30:11 PM
I called this pick a while ago. Reese, thornton has no potential, he's 24. If Thad Young was 24 he could have averaged 19 and 7 too.
Yeah dude. 24 is so old. I hate how everyone that has "potential" either needs to be an underclassmen or a high school player. Please. He's got plenty of potential.
Reese, Young has more potential than Thornton. They're each on the elite level for athleticism. Young has a better handle, and seems to be a better shooter. He doesn't foul as much as Thornton does. Young could probably play PF in small sets (like Thornton) because he has some decent post moves. Young is a personal favorite of mine, but I don't see how you could say either one was definitely a better pick.
Philadelphia is up again.
a better pick purely for the fact that the Sixers NEED glass help in the worst way, not another outside shooter that cant get by anyone...thats all
So the 76ers draft Daequan Cook and then trade him to Miami for Jason Smith. Meh.
Quote from: Dillen on June 28, 2007, 09:42:45 PM
So the 76ers draft Daequan Cook and then trade him to Miami for Jason Smith. Meh.
I'm happy with whitey at 21, even though I really wanted Crittenton or Williams at that spot.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 28, 2007, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Dillen on June 28, 2007, 09:42:45 PM
So the 76ers draft Daequan Cook and then trade him to Miami for Jason Smith. Meh.
I'm happy with whitey at 21, even though I really wanted Crittenton or Williams at that spot.
(http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0717/nba_smith_195.jpg)
Petteri Koponen from Finland...ummm...who? I thought I was watching the NHL draft.
Should have went with Davis or McRoberts.
Quote from: phillywestbrook36 on June 28, 2007, 09:30:11 PM
I called this pick a while ago. Reese, thornton has no potential, he's 24. If Thad Young was 24 he could have averaged 19 and 7 too against a bunch of teenagers.
Obviously you've never seen Al Thornton play. Not surprising.
King screwed the pooch in the entire first round. The last pick was el-oh-el funny.
The Sixers weren't going to pay 3 guaranteed contracts this year. It's basically a wasted pick anyway. Still have one more to go. BTW, that Miami trade included a 2009 2nd-rd pick....
So Steven Hunter at the 4? Yea!
Kyrylo Fesenko...awesome
King drafted for the f'ing Flyers
This draft has Larry Brown written all over it.
holy S....now we traded for McRoberts :-D
paging igy
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 28, 2007, 11:13:23 PM
holy S....now we traded for McRoberts :-D
paging igy
what? I missed it. What did we give up? Let me guess cash and a 2020 2nd rounder?
CSN Ron Burke said we traded for the #42 pick, not the #38. Ed?
I think we just went from 2 Europeans to none
jrich for brandon wright???
we drafted byars. solid pick.
Portland takes Derrick Byars for the 76ers. 6'7" SG that helped Vandy beat Florida
I think it's the two Europeans to Portland for McRoberts and Byars and cash
So we traded 30 and 42 for 37 and cash? Why not just draft McRoberts at 30 and trade 38 for cash?
Bobcats just got raped
Koponen for Byars and cash
As long as we have McRoberts so igy's head explodes, I'm good.
Link to Byars article (http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/021707aab.html)
Quote from: MDS on June 28, 2007, 11:21:25 PM
As long as we have McRoberts so igy's head explodes, I'm good.
did we get him though? I can't find it and they didn't report it on tv
ESPN took the McRoberts thing away
so we got the Ukraine guy and Byars? No Mcbob?
I would've preferred Thornton over Young, but Young has more upside and is younger and has a better shot. Overall I really like the draft.
Young, Smith, Byars, and a big euro to develop = win
As of now, we have Young, Smith, Fesenko and Byars
I wanted Thornton because he was strong inside and is relentless, but he's going to be 24 and Young is a freshman in college. It is hard to really argue with what the Sixers did. Young really impressed the Sixers, and Dei Lynam has said all week that they love him, and said today she thinks they will take him.
Dei Lynam knows her shtein.
Rotoworld is killing our draft, but I really like it.
I think the Bucks are in hard spot with Yi. I think the Chinese government might say that he can't play for them. Remember when Orlando drafted Fran Vasquez at 11, and he decided to never come over. What if China refuses to let Yi come and play for the Bucks. BK is in love with Yi, so maybe something with Thad Young + fillers could work, if China forces the Bucks hand..
either way, with Thad Young, Byars, and Carney, we found our future running mate for Iguodala. Jason Smith should be a good roleplayer, and the Ukranian guy is a good prospect. Overall, I give this draft a B+.
Rotoworld likes the J-Rich deal for the Bobcats. Nothing more needs to be said.
Quote from Rotoworld:
QuoteIn the first surprise of the night for RotoWorld, the Sixers took Georgia Tech forward Thaddeus Young with the 12th pick.
This came as a surprise, as it really looked like the Sixers would take Al Thornton here. Then again, Young is as clean as they come, and it could be that Billy Knight wanted to get a good egg in the mix before he finishes out the first round with controversial picks Sean Williams and Glen Davis. Young is not likely to have fantasy value in the upcoming seaseon, especially given the fact he'll likely be playing behind Andre Iguodala.
Byars highlight reel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4R-U65xcM
OMGTHEYMISSPELLEDBILLYKING'SNAMETHEYMUSTBESTOOPID!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 28, 2007, 11:46:10 PM
OMGTHEYMISSPELLEDBILLYKING'SNAMETHEYMUSTBESTOOPID!
Well they mistaked them with Atlanta's gm... that's pretty bad.
Knig is a misspelling.
Knight means that have no idea what the dude's name is.
i just got home and i can't tell what going on.
i'm cool with young. wanted thornton but i guess this dude's like 5 years younger.
what did we do with portland to get byars?
and then we have this ukraine dude? just those 3 guys?
Most mocks had Byars going top 20.
We traded our 30th pick, Koponen... for cash and Portland's 2nd round pick... Byars.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 28, 2007, 11:52:19 PM
i just got home and i can't tell what going on.
i'm cool with young. wanted thornton but i guess this dude's like 5 years younger.
what did we do with portland to get byars?
and then we have this ukraine dude? just those 3 guys?
7'0" PF whitey Jason Smith from Colorado State too.....4 guys. Daequan Cook was drafted at #21 and swapped with a 2009 2nd-rd pick to Miami for Smith
We just traded for Herbert Hill... bye bye Ukranian guy.
Quote from: King Cole on June 28, 2007, 11:48:14 PM
Knig is a misspelling.
Knight means that have no idea what the dude's name is.
Right. None at all. Got it.
Three PFs to go with Shavlik. PLAYOFFS
King is saying in his press conference that the team you see isn't the one that will start the season....more moves to make
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 29, 2007, 12:05:45 AM
7'0" PF whitey Jason Smith from Colorado State too.....4 guys. Daequan Cook was drafted at #21 and swapped with a 2009 2nd-rd pick to Miami for Smith
wait, isn't it 5 guys then? young, smith, byars, and then the ukraine dude and finland dude.
thad young, jason smith, byars, and herbert hill. no foreignors.
Who was it that was saying they didn't want any more F/G hybrid guys, because Iguodala and Carney are around?
Hilarious. Besides the massive white guy, that's all they got, right?
I guess you gotta stick with what you know (http://www.nba.com/sixers/draft/draft_workout_notes_070606.html)
QuoteWednesday afternoon, the Sixers concluded what head coach Maurice Cheeks called a "high level workout." All four of the participants (Derrick Byars, Glen Davis, Jason Smith and Thaddeus Young) are potential first round picks, so the level of competition was high.
kinda strange that they actually got 3 out of the 4 people from the same workout.
must have been a great game
Quote from: phillywestbrook36 on June 29, 2007, 12:19:44 AM
thad young, jason smith, byars, and herbert hill. no foreignors.
This draft has "average" written all over it. I liked the Thaddeus Young pick, I've wanted him since the lottery happened, but it really wasn't a need. Jason Smith is a decent pick I guess, but it would have been nice to get an inside guy instead of a soft PF. Byars at 42 is amazing value, but what the hell are they going to do with him? They now have five 1st round caliber SG/SF on the team with him, Young, Iguodala, Carney and Korver. I didn't see the Herb Hill thing, but that I am very happy with.
i like the young & smith picks...and i like how they traded #30 & 38 for worse picks in order to save some $$$. that shows a real comittment to winning. :yay
This team seems allergic to foreign players. They'll draft them and then promptly get rid of them...no development time overseas or anything...just "give us our damn hat back and get outta here".
I'm not overwhelmed or anything, but I would have preferred Thornton. I don't know much about Young to be honest. And hopefully Smith pans out as someone who can help on the boards.
I was pissed that Big Baby went at 35 and now is in Boston though.
Speaking of Boston...how ignorant is Danny Ainge? Its funny to watch that chowdahead operate up there. I wonder what Simmons will have to say this morning...
Seattle tore it up...
So did Portland. They got 8 new players in a span of 4 hours...
Young is a good slasher and shooter. He's decent on defense and racks up a lot of steals. He's a pretty good rebounder with his athleticism and length. I would have been fine with Thornton or Young, but Young was a personal favorite of mine. It's odd, last year the day of the lottery I wanted Rodney Carney, and this year I wanted Thad Young. I should have picked someone like Brandan Wright.
Some of the NBA trades are so stupid. I don't understand why Miami wouldn't just take Cook in the first place. The 76ers benefited from that trade, so whatever.
Ainge is a farging moron. They tank the entire season only to get a 32 year old gunner SG who makes like $15M a year. :-D
And whats up with GS giving up JRich for Wright? I dont know if I'd like that if I were a Warriors fan.
I'm assuming they wanted to move him because they drafted Belinelli, but they really need to re-sign Pietrus now.
Wright is a perfect fit for their team, however. So is Belinelli. They had a real good draft.
I just checked the EMB 76ers thread. What a mess that was last night. Some of the people there are so farging annoying.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2007, 10:41:54 AM
Seattle tore it up...
for real, durant and green in the same draft is sick. not to mention wally and delonte west.
green getting picked to play alongside durant makes him 10x better than he would be normally.
i still can't find anywhere a detailed analysis of what we did.
we drafted both of those foreign guys, and now we have neither of them. how?
can someone show me a link or something? i'm an idiot.
Analysis in the morning after is real hard to find.
76ers traded Koponen to Portland for Derrick Byars and cash.
76ers traded Fesenko to Utah for Herb Hill and cash.
Who the hell knows what this means. I just hope the Sixers realistically plan on playing Sammy, Young, Carney, Igy and Miller.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 29, 2007, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2007, 10:41:54 AM
Seattle tore it up...
for real, durant and green in the same draft is sick. not to mention wally and delonte west.
green getting picked to play alongside durant makes him 10x better than he would be normally.
And they'll be re-signing Rashard Lewis too.
I think their GM is some 30yr old dude or I might be confusing him with Portland's GM, but either way both of those teams got it done.
Quote from: Dillen on June 29, 2007, 10:58:59 AM
76ers traded Koponen to Portland for Derrick Byars and cash.
76ers traded Fesenko to Utah for Herb Hill and cash.
thanks. thats all i wanted. i'm ok with both of these simply because i don't know anything about either foreign guy.
Quote from: MDS on June 29, 2007, 11:02:51 AM
Who the hell knows what this means. I just hope the Sixers realistically plan on playing Sammy, Young, Carney, Igy and Miller.
I guess Iggy plays the 2, which is moronic since his perimeter game is average. This draft has Larry Brown written all over it, he loves the athletic small forward types.
Now Cheeks just needs to play everyone that needs minutes to prove how far along they are in their development. This means:
No more Willie Green and Kevin Ollie at point over Lou Will
No Willie Green at SG over Young/Carney
No meaningless Korver minutes at SF over Young/Carney
No meaningless Joe Smith minutes at PF over Hunter, Hill and Smith
So pretty much, just trade Green and Ollie for anything you can get. Keep Joe Smith because the young bigs need help, but don't go over 20-25 minutes a night.
Gargano said that the Sixers offered all three picks, Carney, and Hunter to Milwaukee for #6 and Dan Gadzuric's contract
I heard that too, Milwaukee is insane for turning that down. Yi doesn't want to play there, so his trade value is only going to drop from this point on.
Time to make a lowball offer for Yi with our overload of swingman. Nice job Milwuakee, draft a guy whose country won't let him play in your city. Carney + Korver + Hunter for Yi?? ;)
Were the Sixers that high on that General Tsao?
no, they make trade offers like that for guys they think can't play
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070629 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070629)
WAHHHHHHHHH
Press Conference isn't until tomorrow. Yi wants to be traded by Friday. Still a possibility Billy gets his man?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2007, 10:48:17 AM
And whats up with GS giving up JRich for Wright? I dont know if I'd like that if I were a Warriors fan.
I love that deal for GS. Richardson was overrated, and after his injury he couldn't jump like he used to. He is an inconsistent shooter, and they got Belinelli to nail shots
young is a solid pick....the rest of the guys range from not very good to garbage...byers farging sucks...
C- grade
I'm amazed you'd single out Byars when they drafted a white guy.
if you suck then you suck that dont me that im hatin
Anyone who watched Byars play thinks he can play.
Stephen A Smith and players gets heckled at the draft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvJGghOuFlQ
Take a guess at the one player who slapped lil' SAS away.
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 29, 2007, 06:55:10 PM
I'm amazed you'd single out Byars when they drafted a white guy.
the white guy will see more minutes than young this season....and i'm still marveling at how picks 30 & 38 turned into picks 42 & 55.
saving $$$ > drafting best available players :deion
During the press conference today, Young's jersey had no number. He said he's going to let the fans decide what number he'll wear through an online poll
My vote is get rid of Willie Green and let Young keep 33.
ha
I think they said the choices are 5, 21, 30 or 31
21
gotta go with wilbert's old #31. :yay
during the press conference, young also said the he's a great guy & that people love him.
avg 25 & 10 and people will love him
Sixers Summer League plans
-Courtesy of the Philadelphia 76ers
Philadelphia, Pa. - June 30, 2007 - The Philadelphia 76ers will host a four-day summer mini-camp for rookies and free agents from Monday, July 2, through Thursday, July 5, at the Sixers Practice Facility, in preparation for the 2007 NBA Summer League in Las Vegas (July 6-11) and the 2007 Rocky Mountain Revue (July 12-20) in Salt Lake City.
The team will depart for Las Vegas immediately following the practice on Thursday, July 5. Among the players expected to participate in this year's summer league competition are 2007 NBA Draft acquisitions Derrick Byars, Herbert Hill, Jason Smith and Thaddeus Young, along with Louis Amundson, Rodney Carney, Bobby Jones, Shavlik Randolph and Louis Williams.
The Sixers tip-off their five-game schedule in Las Vegas on Friday, July 6, at 4 p.m. (EDT) against San Antonio. All of the Sixers games will be played at the Cox Pavilion on the campus of the University of Nevada Las Vegas. Comcast SportsNet will televise three of the NBA Summer League games: Monday, July 9, vs. Golden State (8 p.m.); Tuesday, July 10, vs. L.A. Lakers (8 p.m.); and Wednesday, July 11, vs. Phoenix (8 p.m.).
Following the game on Wednesday, July 11, the 76ers will travel to Salt Lake City for a six-game slate, opening on Friday, July 13, against Chicago at 4:30 pm. (EDT). All Rocky Mountain Revue games will be played at the Lifetime Activities Center located on the Redwood Campus of Salt Lake Community College.
2007 NBA Summer League Schedule (Cox Pavilion - Las Vegas)
Fri, July 6 4 p.m. vs. San Antonio
Sat, July 7 6 p.m. vs. Detroit
Mon, July 9 8 p.m. vs. Golden State (CSN)
Tue, July 10 8 p.m. vs. L.A. Lakers (CSN)
Wed, July 11 8 p.m. vs. Phoenix (CSN)
2007 Rocky Mountain Revue Schedule (Lifetime Activities Center - Salt Lake City)
Fri, July 13 6:30 p.m. vs. San Antonio
Sat, July 14 9 p.m. vs. Utah
Mon, July 16 4:15 p.m. vs. Chicago
Tue, July 17 6:30 p.m. vs. San Antonio
Wed, July 18 TBD vs. Dallas
Fri, July 20 2 p.m. vs. Atlanta
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS: 2007 Summer League Roster
No. Player Pos. HT WT DOB Yrs. Pro From
4 Derrick Byars G/F 6-7 220 4/25/84 R Vanderbilt
11 Bobby Jones F 6-7 215 1/9/84 1 Washington
14 Jason Smith C/F 7-0 240 3/2/86 R Colorado State
20 Louis Amundson F 6-9 225 12/7/82 1 UNLV
21 Edin Bavcic F 6-10 230 6/5/84 R Bosnia
23 Louis Williams G 6-1 175 10/27/86 2 South Gwinnett HS (Ga.)
25 Rodney Carney F 6-7 205 4/15/84 1 Memphis
30 Thaddeus Young F 6-8 220 6/21/88 R Georgia Tech
35 Herbert Hill F/C 6-10 240 10/1/84 R Providence
42 Shavlik Randolph F 6-10 240 11/24/83 3 Duke
Summer League Rookie Free Agent Invites
No. Player Pos. HT WT DOB From (D-League Experience)
50 Christian Burns C/F 6-9 240 9/4/85 Philadelphia U.
41 John Cox G/F 6-5 210 7/6/81 San Francisco
40 Rashad Jones-Jennings F 6-8 230 8/31/84 Arkansas-Little Rock
5 Gerry McNamara G 6-2 180 8/20/83 Syracuse (Bakersfield Jam: 2006-07)
31 Dustin Salisbery G 6-8 210 10/19/84 Temple
g-mac in the hizzy! :paranoid
If anyone sees how Bavcic does say it here. Supposedly he could be really, really good as early as this year. I wouldn't count on it though.
Is it a bad sign when 2/3 of your regular roster is in the summer league? They're sending the entire bench except Ollie...
i think its a worse sign when youre in the lottery and do nothing in the off season to improve your team....everything we see now is basically the franchise stuck in neutral until the cap relief comes next year
holla at dustin salisbury.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
Is it a bad sign when 2/3 of your regular roster is in the summer league? They're sending the entire bench except Ollie...
That is a great sign. The goal of the Sixers is to suck next year. We need Beasley or Rose on this team next year. I really don't see the difference between winning 40 games and winning 30 games. The season still ends with no championship, so you might as well get a lottery pick in the process to continue to stock up on young talent.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 01, 2007, 01:14:26 PM
i think its a worse sign when youre in the lottery and do nothing in the off season to improve your team....everything we see now is basically the franchise stuck in neutral until the cap relief comes next year
It's called building for the future. Which is why we drafted Thad Young over Thornton. Sorry, quick fixes don't work. See Boston and New York.
building for the future only works if you have great young players...the sixers have none...i have no problem building but they did nothing this offseason with three first rounders that would indicate great hope for the future...i have no problem with the young pick but it certainly doesnt scream awesome future
they will go nowhere witht he young players they have now until they bust out in free agency which hopefully will happen in the next two summers...so in essence yes a quick fix is what this team needs..admittedly it will work in this case because the sixers do have some nice complimentary guys to surround studs with...but until they get the studs the thaddeus youngs dont do anything
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 04, 2007, 05:56:57 PM
building for the future only works if you have great young players...the sixers have none...i have no problem building but they did nothing this offseason with three first rounders that would indicate great hope for the future...i have no problem with the young pick but it certainly doesnt scream awesome future
they will go nowhere witht he young players they have now until they bust out in free agency which hopefully will happen in the next two summers...so in essence yes a quick fix is what this team needs..admittedly it will work in this case because the sixers do have some nice complimentary guys to surround studs with..but until they get the studs the thaddeus youngs dont do anything
Thad Young was a Rivals top 5 pick going into college and had a decent Freshmen year at 15/5. Hollinger system, although extremely stupid, scored him at 3 in the draft.. I think only behind Oden and Durant. Thad Young has all star potential. Iguodala will be an all star this year. Korver is a good 6th man. Jason Smith is athletic as hell, with like a 38 inch verticla and the highest score on the agility test. And we have Andre Miller, a good point guard to help develop our young guys. Carney, although having a medicore season, was only a rookie last year, and he has the athleticism and quickness to be a good player if he just puts it to use. Most importantly, we are easily the worst team in the Atlantic this year, and one of the worst in the league. Boston and New York just jumped ahead of us with their trades, and even Charlotte and Atlanta should be better. We'll have Rose, Mayo, Beasley, Hibbert, etc coming our way. There's our #1 star.
People need to get off Hibbert's nuts. He'll be good in the NBA, but I doubt he'll be a go-to guy. I could think of probably at least 10 players I'd prefer next year, even before the season starts.
Quote from: phillywestbrook36 on July 04, 2007, 06:56:06 PM
Thad Young was a Rivals top 5 pick going into college and had a decent Freshmen year at 15/5. Hollinger system, although extremely stupid, scored him at 3 in the draft.. I think only behind Oden and Durant. Thad Young has all star potential. Iguodala will be an all star this year. Korver is a good 6th man. Jason Smith is athletic as hell, with like a 38 inch verticla and the highest score on the agility test. And we have Andre Miller, a good point guard to help develop our young guys. Carney, although having a medicore season, was only a rookie last year, and he has the athleticism and quickness to be a good player if he just puts it to use. Most importantly, we are easily the worst team in the Atlantic this year, and one of the worst in the league. Boston and New York just jumped ahead of us with their trades, and even Charlotte and Atlanta should be better. We'll have Rose, Mayo, Beasley, Hibbert, etc coming our way. There's our #1 star.
I'd take Rose and Beasley over Mayo considering the Sixers are jam packed at the 2 and the 3. I am a bit worried BK is going to panic and trade away too much for a big man this offseason. His job is on the line and he probably worries about finishing with another poor record. Even if he did get the nod from Snider, that still is a lot of pressure on Snider to turn this team around, and he could chop BK.
OJ Mayo is not a wingman. He's a real good player but I don't like him much, he's a gunner even when his shot isn't working like Arenas. I'd rather have Eric Gordon.
You think Mayo will play point in the NBA? I'm not so sure. He has the scoring ability of a wing player. The gunner thing is why I think he won't play PG. The absolute worst position to have a gunner is at the point. That is why AI was moved to the 2 when he was drafted, and I think Mayo could be as well.
Most importantly, we are easily the worst team in the Atlantic this year, and one of the worst in the league. Boston and New York just jumped ahead of us with their trades, and even Charlotte and Atlanta should be better. We'll have Rose, Mayo, Beasley, Hibbert, etc coming our way. There's our #1 star.
mayo and most of those guys are the same kinda guys teams like the hawks and clippers get and they go round and round never going anywhere with...talented but clueless guys who cant play the game and never learn how because they are thrown onto teams who have no stud veterans...the sixers already have a solid young nucleus that they need to add some proven free agent veterans to in the next couple years...stop worrying about the oj mayos of the world...they arent gonna help at this point
they need to develop what they currently have and add to it with the cap money that is coming free in 08/09
Aaron Mckie is going to be auditioning for a coaches postion this year. He's the perfect type of character to coach.
aaron mckie IS philly...bring em in
Looks like the Sixers are interested in Darko and have a little interest in Malik Allen and Mikki Moore
darko will get chewed up and spit out by the philly fanbase...hed last about three appearances before he was basically toast and needed to be moved
i havent seen a ton of him but what i have seen of mikey moore ive liked...the guy is unbelievably active on the boards can really get up and dunks like a maniac
Darko might actually be a productive player for the Sixers. He was brutalized in Detroit by Larry Brown and again in Orlando by a coach in Brian Hill who should be coaching in rec. leagues, not the NBA.
The guy definitely has talent. Whether a guy like Mo Cheeks could coax that talent out of him is another story.
Regardless, he's looking for $10M per year and he's definitely not worth that kind of dough. Not yet anyway.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 06, 2007, 10:39:47 AMHe was brutalized in Detroit by Larry Brown
Good thing Brown isn't on the Sixers, huh...
I'd take him here. What the hell...give him a shot. He's 7' and has some potential.
Do any of y'all remember that cat they drafted a few years back...some white dude who was hyped because there was footage of him dunking over a car. What was his name?
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 06, 2007, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 06, 2007, 10:39:47 AMHe was brutalized in Detroit by Larry Brown
Good thing Brown isn't on the Sixers, huh...
Ha. True dat.
Another reason why the Sixers are what they are.
The fact that he was given a job after the bullshtein he pulled speaks volumes about that franchise.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 06, 2007, 10:45:15 AMDo any of y'all remember that cat they drafted a few years back...some white dude who was hyped because there was footage of him dunking over a car. What was his name?
Jiri Welsch was the guy they drafted but I don't remember him being a dunker. Are you thinking of Marko Jaric?
Jaric might be the one. Seeing Darko's name reminded me of him for some reason.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 06, 2007, 10:08:42 AM
i havent seen a ton of him but what i have seen of mikey moore ive liked...the guy is unbelievably active on the boards can really get up and dunks like a maniac
and he's black!1!
I wouldn't mind Darko for the mle which is all we could offer him anyway. FYI -- He has the same agent as Dalembert
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2007/scoreboard.jsp
for anybody who wants to watch the Sixer summerleage game online
I've been watching since like 4 minutes left in the 1st. Jason Smith can run for a white guy.
it's really hard to tell who is who though
Yeah, I can't tell who any of the black guys are other than Lou Will, and the occasional chance you see a guy shoot left handed, when it would have to be Thad Young. Amundson and Smith are pretty easy to see. :-D
i watched for about 20 minutes and couldn't even tell what team was witch until i heard rodney carney's name.
Looks like the Sixers are changing the white and black jerseys to resemble the red alternate one (http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/801/801269/nba-live-08-20070703104415010.jpg)
(The EA games usually have all the changes before they're announced)
76ers lost to Detroit 91-89. Lou Will with 32 points on 6-15 shooting, 17-17 FT, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals, 6 turnovers. He can score, but he really isn't a PG.
Carney with another bad day. 3-13 FG, 12 points, no rebounds or steals in 30 minutes.
Thaddeus had a pretty good day, so did Jason Smith and Herb Hill.
no rebounds for carney? holy shtein, he's soft. :boo
He's not soft, he's just stupid. Bad basketball IQ. He takes bad shots and doesn't know when to pass. He drives a lot though and takes it strong. I don't think he is soft.
Ha. David Aldridge made a phunney in today's Sixers column.
QuoteThe Orlando Magic repeated their two-superstar history (Grant Hill, Tracy McGrady) by giving free agent Rashard Lewis $75 million and committing to a max contract for Dwight Howard, locking themselves in through the Obama administration's first term.
Ron Paul!
Dream on.
iverson liable
http://www.nbc4.com/news/13646628/detail.html?dl=mainclick
yes iverson is and always will be a sixer...belee dat
No.
An update:
-Little to no shot at Yi
-Interested in Joe Smith and could offer him "ample playing time," but Houston and Chicago (playoff teams) have expressed interest
-Interested in Darko.
I predict the 9 seed!!111!!
that's some update. maybe you can go back to 2 days ago when i first read it in the paper and suprise me?
Why don't I just inject you with some AIDS and we call it even?
Carney dropped 30 and Lou Will dropped 29 in an OT win over LA. Carney hit clutch 3s.
The NBATV announcers have been drooling over Williams
yeah they have...
and they are analyzing these games like it's the real teams playing and it's a real game, somewhat embarassing
Louis Williams is the black Steve Nash.
louis williams isnt even a point guard...i dont know why the sixers continue to try and hammer the triangle into the circle...get rid of willie green and give williams a shot to be an instant offense guy off the bench
No real shocker here but Joe Smith signs with the Bulls (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/Sixers__0039__Smith_may_be_heading_to_the_Bulls.html)
Good...it prevents Billy from wasting money on his ass.
and doesnt steal minutes from a youngin
good move for the bulls...smith is nice guy to have off the bench for a quality team...hes a waste on a team like the sixers..for both him and them
Roster shakin down like this
Sammy D
Steve Hunter
Thad
Real igy
Miller
Carney
Louie
Instant Korver
Willie Green
Kevin Ollie
Shav
Jason Smith
I smell the 7 seed.
According to the Inquirer, Darko would have signed here if Memphis hadn't offered a 3rd year
Well, there goes the NBA championship, then.
Steven Hunter starting on a team with legitimate playoff hopes is indicative of how truly awful the Eastern Conference is.
Hunter's going to be good for 20/10/5 this year.
Well, maybe once.
(http://m1.2mdn.net/viewad/1403607/07SIX002_Final.jpg)
WTF?
Hott.
i cant believe the eagles didnt draft jason smith to play linebacker
Smith isn't usually a first name, though.
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/a3/fullj.getty-75607914fm142_rookie_photoshoot.jpg)
Iguodala got invited to work out with the national team. There's also rumors that the Sixers are discussing a long-term deal of $14M-$15M/yr
early rumor on the 07-08 schedule is that the Sixers don't have any national appearances this year. The Hawks are the only other team without one...
I'm not surprised. Last year there were like 8 or 9 scheduled, after AI was traded they changed it and there wasn't a single game.
Sparing the rest of America for this perennial 9th seed is quite the good call.
Dalembert = official Canadian eh?
hmm i dont like the move away from the gold color in the jerseys and logo. when they first revealed the new (now old?) black/gold jerseys i thought they were the hottest in the league. they need to keep the black and gold.
salmi got the job to replace mix
(http://cdn.nhl.com/flyers/images/upload/2007/09/204_0458.jpg)
New Flyer Jason Smith meets new 76er Jason Smith
wacky alert!
jason smith hockey guy looks like he wants to be anywhere in the world but taking that picture
except Edmonton probably
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 06, 2007, 03:43:44 PM
(http://cdn.nhl.com/flyers/images/upload/2007/09/204_0458.jpg)
New Flyer Jason Smith meets new 76er Jason Smith
Joni loves farging Reindeer in Edmonton
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20061220/293.lyons.ben.122006.jpg)
Trade with Denver:
Steven Hunter and Bobby Jones for Reggie Evans and Ricky Sanchez.
Quote from: MDS on September 10, 2007, 02:43:23 PM
Trade with Denver:
Steven Hunter and Bobby Jones for Reggie Evans and Ricky Sanchez.
I like it. I wanted Evans when he was on the block in Seattle...dude can bang the boards.
Who the hell is Ricky Sanchez?
Evans loves balls (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reggie+evans+kaman)
Sanchez. (http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/rickysanchez.asp)
That's all I could find of him.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 10, 2007, 03:12:46 PM
Evans loves balls (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reggie+evans+kaman)
needed him in the pile for those loose "balls" at Lambeau yesterday.
Why don't the Sixers think long-term. Evans will help us win a few more games, and add a million or so to the cap next summer, and will take a full year longer then Hunter to come off the books.
Best trade King has made in a long long time.
He finally addresses a serious need that has been way overdue. Now get a scorer
The thing that baffles me is why the hell would Denver trade their only legitimate back-up to Camby who is often injured?
This guy led the NBA in rebounds per 48 minutes last season (19.7).
We signed Calvin Booth. One year at like 1.1 million, with a player option for a second year. I hate Billy King.
i know...why do we do things like this? i hate it when we do this junk.
its simple
we dont know what we are doing
calvin booth used to eat lunch in my dining hall at penn state. i was always amazed at how uncoordinated he was. he couldn't even eat right.
Quote from: bowzer on September 11, 2007, 11:39:37 AM
We signed Calvin Booth. One year at like 1.1 million, with a player option for a second year. I hate Billy King.
I mean, if your going to just throw a million dollars to people for no reason....give it to me for christs sake
Trading Steven Hunter might be the best move Billy King ever made. The magnitude of his suckage can't be measured using traditional methods.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 11, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
Trading Steven Hunter might be the best move Billy King ever made. The magnitude of his suckage can't be measured using traditional methods.
from urban dictionary:1. Suckage
Total state of suck. Where everything in sight is teh sux0r.
Giant robots crushed the casinos and mooshed the brothels and started fires that burned things and left ruin and SUCKAGE
2. Suckage
The amount that something does suck.
When you first encounter Diablo, you truly test your degree of suckage at D1.
3. suckage
For something to suck really bad.
That maths test was pure suckage.
4. suckage
For someone to suck really bad.
That Steven Hunter's suckage is worse than a blowjob from a $3 whore.
$3 whores everywhere are cringing at being compared to that walking pile of excrement.
They're also raising their rates to tree fitty.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 11, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
Trading Steven Hunter might be the best move Billy King ever made. The magnitude of his suckage can't be measured using traditional methods.
Hunter was actually pretty good for the Sixers.
must listen radio: chuck barkley is in the studio with howard today for part of his 5000th wip show
Should put it somewhere more people will see.
Said he's got Mike Schmidt, Ron Jaworski, Billy C., and a whole bunch of others than Eskin has had it out with in the past. Should be pretty fun.
i wasnt really sure where to put it...and a new thread would have been deleted by pg
Random Musings....the catch all.
training camp started yesterday and I don't think anyone cares
go Soul!!
The Sixers are the 5th-most important professional team to me in Philly, behind the Eagles, Phillies, Flyers, and Soul.
thats a shocker
Pro basketball is more about individual players than teams.
I know you're obviously alluding to racial motivations as always, but honestly, I'm just not into the whole way the league's set up. I love watching college basketball when I get a chance... it's a MUCH better game.
Coach Aaron McKie
Temple brains gonna do it that son
Jason Smith played well lastnight, he's faster than I thought he was going to be. Attendance at Sixers games is going to be dreadful this season.
attendance was dreadful last season too.
hopefully mo realizes this is a rebuilding year & give guys like williams, carney, & smith some good minutes instead of playing slugs like willie green, ollie, & booth.
how did they win at Boston last night?
boston is a veteran laden sqaud playing for a title this year....sixers are a bunch of young bucks playing for jobs and playing time...not really that suprising that something like that would take place in the preseason...simply put boston took the night off
Quote76ers waive rookie Derrick Byars
By Marc Narducci
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
In a move that wasn't surprising, the 76ers waived rookie swingman Derrick Byars today. Byars, a rookie from Vanderbilt, had appeared in only one preseason game, scoring just two points in a 91-90 loss to the New Jersey Nets.
He had been suffering from a back injury during training camp. But more difficult was the crowded situation at the wing positions for the Sixers.
Byars was selected by Portland with the 42d pick in the 2007 NBA draft and was acquired on draft night by the Sixers for the rights to Petteri Koponen, who was the 30th overall pick, and cash considerations.
The Sixers' roster stands at 15, the maximum allowed by the NBA.
Quote from: King Cole on September 11, 2007, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 11, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
Trading Steven Hunter might be the best move Billy King ever made. The magnitude of his suckage can't be measured using traditional methods.
Hunter was actually pretty good for the Sixers.
I can't believe I missed this gem.
There is no way you're for real dude. None whatsoever.
Per Rotoworld:
The Sixers got more bad news about Samuel Dalembert recently, as he's back in a walking boot as he tries to overcome a stress fracture in his foot. I put up some sarcastic blurbs regarding Dalembert's injury when it first happened, as he and the Sixers both kept saying that he was going to be fine and there was nothing to worry about. Well, they are clearly worried at this point and the reality is that they may end up having to start rookie Jason Smith at center until Dalembert gets healthy. And when Dalembert will be ready to go is anyone's guess.
Projected starting five: PG Andre Miller, SG Louis Williams, SF Andre Iguodala, PF Reggie Evans, C Samuel Dalembert/Jason Smith
So lets see here around: Miller 14/game, Williams 13/game, Iggy 20/game, Evans 6/game, Smith 8/game
Bench Korver 12/game Carney 8/game
81 points per game if they are lucky. Crazy
i still don't know why Miller is on the team...other than the theory that you need a good point guard to help an offense run and thus help young guys develop...otherwise he's wasting away on this team
Quoteother than the theory that you need a good point guard to help an offense run and thus help young guys develop.
you answered your own question correctly...your promoted to safety captain on the school bus.
hes more on the team because they have no plan b...if they had taken a pt guard last year in the draft then miller probably would have been dealt...but you cant have kevin ollie as your starting one
He's on the team because if he wasn't the Sixers might not win 20 games and Comcast can't have a half-full Wachovia Center every night. It's going to be bad enough with a 3/4 full arena and that's with the raging collection of stiffs that team has as it is.
andre miller isnt attracting fans romey...they had the second worst attendance in the league last year and its only gonna get worse...the only people coming this year are the same people that would come if me or you was playing point
I know he's not a drawing card per se but his presence makes the team at least semi-competitive for this year. If they tumbled off the face of the earth and ended up losing like the Flyers did last year the place would be empty night after night.
Again - attendance is going to be rotten regardless because that's just how it is in Philly. The Sixers have never drawn well in that market and that's why they kept Iverson around as long as they did.
Everyone knew this transition period was coming and that's why they've kept Miller around. If they didn't a terrible situation would have become dire and although Comcast/Spectacor has more money than God, they don't have enough to simply flush a season down the toilet attendance-wise.
I dont think Rome was even talking about Milller bringing in fans because hes such a highlight reel. I think he means strictly from a business perspective, Miller does make them somewhat competitive, and it gives the you and me fans something to go to on a Friday night after happy hour, thus keeps the investors afloat for another year before they sell
they could win 30 or 15 and the attendance is going to be the same....unless you think miller is getting them to the playoffs he will have no bearing on attendance whatsoever
last year their attendance sucked with iverson around for half the year
Exactly, reese. It's strictly a "cover your ass" move at this point.
BTW: Here's a link to the Sixers historic attendance figures in Philly:
http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamatt.htm?tm=phi&lg=n (http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamatt.htm?tm=phi&lg=n)
Notice that even during the Dr. J years attendance at the Spectrum was putrid. The only years they did bang-up business were during shortly before and after the Finals year with Iverson.
What was the attendance capacity in the spectum in the early 80's?
Quote from: Wingspan on October 24, 2007, 10:03:40 AM
What was the attendance capacity in the spectum in the early 80's?
I remember for the Flyers it was 17,077 and then 17,177. The Sixers had to be slightly higher because of the seating configuration.
if i remember correctly basketball was 18,168
hockey for much of the 80's was 17,211 then i wanna say it went up to 17,500 at some point....i have a ton of flyer box scores at home ill look tonight
i hope no one goes. whatever it takes billy king to get fired, the better.
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2007, 01:14:05 PM
i hope no one goes. whatever it takes billy king to get fired, the better.
don't we have such a plethora of gm talent!
Quote from: MDS on October 24, 2007, 01:14:05 PM
i hope no one goes. whatever it takes billy king to get fired, the better.
Racist.
dont expect sammy d to play more than 30 games, jason smith is a baller, thad young is trash.
youve seen neither of them play one second of basketball ever...all youve read is daily news articles that say thad will not be a big part of the rotation and smith will....your translation = one sucks and the other is great
im in on the in boyyyyy