aka Barksdale makes his bones
post all pics, articles, etc here
it's finally here, not a moment too soon.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070726_Frying_pan_to_the_fire.html
(http://students.ou.edu/G/David.M.Gehris-1/brian%20dawkins.jpg)
I'll be there at some point between the 6th and 10th. You all care. I want igy to show so I can give him that hug he's been axing for.
I'm coming at LEAST once, I'll be in plenty of facial hair and wife beaters.
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2007, 10:16:57 PMI want igy to show so I can give him that hug he's been axing for.
funny.
Did Buckhalter blow out his knees yet?
Here's a training camp article (http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070727/COLUMNISTS14/707270382/1002/SPORTS), but the most interesting part of the whole thing pointed to the strength of the NFC East over the years the Eagles have been winning it. Kind of surprising.
QuoteThe NFC East, almost any way you look at it, has been the best division in the NFC -- even as the Eagles were running roughshod through it every year.
Since realignment in 2002, when the Cardinals were exiled to Arizona and the NFC West, the East piled up 164 wins in the NFC -- more than the South (161), the North (145) or the West (144).
Outside the division, the East was 69-51 in the NFC -- the best mark in the conference. Only the South (62-58) had a winning record; the North is 56-64 and the West is 53-67.
The East has had 10 playoff teams since 2002; the South and West each had seven and the North had six (Minnesota was the only wild card).
That's a pretty good argument -- the NFC East has been the strongest division top to bottom. Even when the other NFC East teams have been bad they've rarely been pushovers like the Lions or Cardinals.
does anyone else get annoyed by kevin kolbs jibb?
definitely doesnt pass the look test
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070727_Lets_see_what_weve_got_here.html
QuoteLet's see what we've got here
GM eager to see newcomers and players returning from injury
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
The draft picks all are signed. Some key players are coming off serious injury - most notably, quarterback Donovan McNabb, who tore his right ACL last November - but the Eagles say those players are ready to go.
Even taking into account the fact that training camps tend to start optimistically, as rookies and select veterans head for Lehigh this afternoon for tomorrow's first practice sessions, the braintrust's brows seem remarkably unforrowed.
"No contracts, no controversy, no disputes - you start it out about as clean as you can go," mused team president Joe Banner, whose pronouncements tend toward caution.
General manager Tom Heckert said the injury recoveries of McNabb, tight end L.J. Smith (sports hernia surgery) and defensive end Jevon Kearse (knee) are the biggest potential problem areas, and that the news right now on all three fronts is good. Only Smith will be at all limited when drills begin, Heckert said, and Smith probably will just take a few reps off here and there to be safe.
"Through this offseason, and even up to this week, we feel really confident about all those guys - Donovan and L.J. and Jevon, they look great," Heckert said. "It looks like there are going to be very few things to be pessimistic [about]."
One of the main things Heckert said he will be looking at in the early going is the linebacking corps. Neither weakside starter Takeo Spikes nor strongside starter Chris Gocong has ever played a down in an Eagles game - Spikes came this offseason in a trade with Buffalo, and Gocong spent his rookie season on injured reserve. Also, the Birds apparently are looking to get middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter off the field on passing downs in favor of second-year player Omar Gaither. So getting all that synched up might be training camp's biggest project, aside from returning McNabb to form.
"Gocong and Spikes," Heckert said. "We're anxious to see how Spikes fits in. We think he's a heckuva football player, but it's always different when you're watching a guy on tape . . . the rookies are like that, too - you see all the stuff on tape, but until they're here with you and doing your things, it's kind of, I don't know if you'd say it's a mystery, but we look forward to seeing if this guy is what we thought he was . . . Gocong, he's a starter right now, but [third-round rookie] Stewart Bradley and [former practice-squadder] Tank Daniels, we'll see how those guys do in camp."
The same question applies to wideout Kevin Curtis, a major offseason acquisition as a Rams free agent, who is being penciled in as a starter opposite Reggie Brown.
"Like Spikes, we know he's a good football player, but he hasn't been in our system," Heckert said. "We're anxious to see him. We've been really impressed with [2006 draftees] Jason Avant and Jeremy Bloom. Bloom [on IR as a rookie], we didn't really get to see him out there. In minicamps, he's looked great."
The Eagles drafted Bloom in the fifth round last year from Colorado as a returner; his sporadic football career, which he had abandoned 2 years earlier to pursue an Olympic skiing medal, didn't seem to portend much of a future as a wideout. It seemed the learning curve would be too steep. But what the Birds saw this spring certainly got their attention.
"Last season, even before he was injured, he didn't look like the same guy we'd seen on tape. On tape, he was fast fast. Now, he looks like the same guy we'd seen," Heckert said. "I think he's surprised even a couple of our DBs . . . I think he has a chance to help us there."
Heckert said McNabb, who will report today (as will all the QBs), won't be held out of anything as long as his repaired knee feels OK.
"Right off the bat, I think we're going to let him go and see how he feels," Heckert said.
Unfinished business
Technically, Darwin Walker could still be an Eagle this season - the Bills have the right to return Walker in exchange for a sixth-round draft choice if he hasn't reported by Aug. 5. Realistically, that seems unlikely. Walker hasn't reported in Buffalo because he is unhappy with his contract, which the Eagles weren't inclined to revise last winter; that was a big part of why they traded him. So it's hard to envision Walker getting a new contract from the Birds. Also, the team went out and signed free agents Montae Reagor and Ian Scott, and another defensive tackle, Brodrick Bunkley requested and was given Walker's jersey number, 97.
The most likely outcome is that Walker gets a new deal with the Bills, after all, as the deadline nears. If that doesn't happen, he probably will be moving on to a team that is inclined to do a new contract.
The Eagles still have not resolved the matter of their $2 million accidental overpayment to Brian Westbrook last year. The team declined comment on the matter yesterday. When the mistake came to light in February, Eagles sources and Westbrook's agent, Fletcher Smith, said there was no dispute about whether Westbrook would pay the money, but the fact that it had been invested and couldn't simply be withdrawn without penalty complicated the repayment, as did the fact that Westbrook had paid taxes on it.
Westbrook's profile on the team is higher than it has ever been, and his sometimes prickly relationship with the front office is mended for now; management wants to proceed gingerly. But the longer this goes without being resolved, the greater the chance for unpleasantness.
QB blog
As part of Donovan McNabb's continuing effort to seem more accessible to fans, the Eagles quarterback announced that he will be blogging one or two times a week at yardbarker.com/users/DonovanMcNabb.
McNabb's inaugural entry includes video of his workouts with receivers earlier this month in Arizona.
"I'm interested in hearing what the fans have to say, and I hope that they are interested in what I have to say, as well," McNabb said in a release accompanying the announcement of the blog. McNabb spokesman Rich Burg said the entries would tend to focus on McNabb's life off the field. *
This is a pretty good article and I think it pretty much sums up how everybody feels going into most training camps.
However, I highlighted the Trotter part because I thought that was something they tried to do last year as well with poor results.
QuoteThe Eagles still have not resolved the matter of their $2 million accidental overpayment to Brian Westbrook last year. The team declined comment on the matter yesterday. When the mistake came to light in February, Eagles sources and Westbrook's agent, Fletcher Smith, said there was no dispute about whether Westbrook would pay the money, but the fact that it had been invested and couldn't simply be withdrawn without penalty complicated the repayment, as did the fact that Westbrook had paid taxes on it.
Thats kind of crazy it hasnt been resolved with Banner trying to collect his money
couldn't they just not pay him that amount this year?
that way he doesn't lose the taxes? it's basically like they gave him an advancement on this year's salary, last year.
Quote from: SunMo on July 27, 2007, 04:10:34 PM
couldn't they just not pay him that amount this year?
that way he doesn't lose the taxes? it's basically like they gave him an advancement on this year's salary, last year.
There's probably some strange actuarial/accounting things that have to happen to make sure things are as close to balanced as possible.
And I agree - take it out in equal amounts from his paychecks this year. Sounds simple.
Quote from: SunMo on July 27, 2007, 04:10:34 PM
couldn't they just not pay him that amount this year?
that way he doesn't lose the taxes? it's basically like they gave him an advancement on this year's salary, last year.
I think they would retroactively go over last years cap. And which could lead to a loss of draft pick.
probably right
Damned beancounters. They ruin everything.
except beans
lets hope camp news picks up
Bets on first injury, people. Let's see some entertainment.
Quote from: SunMo on July 27, 2007, 04:59:25 PM
except beans
Nah, they ruin them, too. They just know how many they ruined.
Quote from: General_Failure on July 27, 2007, 05:02:57 PM
Bets on first injury, people. Let's see some entertainment.
What are the odds?
Pretty good?
Quote from: General_Failure on July 27, 2007, 05:02:57 PM
Bets on first injury, people. Let's see some entertainment.
McNabb cleared to practice (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=13281)
Dawkins is in Lititz, here in Lancaster tonight...
farging with the taterskins?
anyone watching Eagles Live from training camp? Huge storm moving in and spads is just a wreck.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 27, 2007, 07:04:30 PM
anyone watching Eagles Live from training camp? Huge storm moving in and spads is just a wreck.
Is he afraid of thunder and lightning?
does eagles live have player interviews?...in other words is there any reason at all to ever watch it
Didn't he just post that Dave Spadaro is on it? What more reason could a you want?
What more reason could a you want?
dave spadaro interviewing rashad barksdale.....duh
put avon barksdale on with dave and maybe then I'll tune in
I heard Dave is going solo because McPherson and Dave combined would just be too much insight for one show to handle.
Quote. Punter Sav Rocca said this training camp was quite different from the ones he experienced when he prepared for an Australian Rules Football League season. "You got put with a police force and trained with them," Rocca said. "You'd work on your mental toughness and not necessarily the techniques of the game. They'd have guys holding a pole in the rain three or four hours after midnight, so they were sleep-deprived."
WTF?
Sounds like SEAL training. :-D
Don't worry, be happy (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070728_Birds_begin_camp_with_few_worries.html)
QuoteBirds begin camp with few worries
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Expectations are high again.
Turbulence is low, at least in terms of football-related matters.
Sure, there are some health-related issues - quarterback Donovan McNabb and tight end L.J. Smith top that list - but you will find them at every training camp in the NFL.
The Eagles obviously believe they are a team built to win and compete for a Super Bowl title. The process of proving it started yesterday, when a group of 39 rookies and selected veterans checked into the dorm rooms at Lehigh University. They will practice for the first time this morning, then again in the afternoon. The remaining veterans are scheduled to report Monday night and, for the first time since the 2004 season, everybody is likely to arrive at camp on schedule.
No contract disputes, no bitterness, no sideshow distractions.
Before coach Andy Reid met with his players last night, he talked about his football team and made it clear that he had no intention of addressing the legal problems confronting his two eldest sons, Garrett and Britt.
"As far as my family goes, I'm not going to answer any questions on that," Reid said inside the media tent at the Eagles' practice fields. "Even if I could, I can't do that, and I'll maintain that throughout the season."
Reid, on the other hand, happily spoke about the dawn of a new season, the 75th in the franchise's history and the ninth for the head coach in Philadelphia.
"Expectations are high," Reid said. "I know it's that way among the fans, but it's even more so with this football team - the coaches and the players - and that's good."
At least for the moment, the list of injuries is minuscule compared to the start of some previous camps. A year ago, for example, the Eagles placed three players (Jeremy Bloom, Jason Avant and Correll Buckhalter) on the physically-unable-to-perform list before the start of camp.
Two years ago, Jerome McDougle was shot in the stomach the night before rookies reported.
"L.J. Smith is the only [injury] of great concern once the veteran players get in," Reid said. "We'll just take it nice and slow with him and see how he does and how he progresses. We'll probably keep him out of contact for the first few days, but he is progressing very well and he has been working out."
Smith, entering the final year of the contract he signed before his rookie season, is recovering from the May 30 surgery to repair a sports hernia.
"He's actually a little bit ahead [of schedule]," Reid said, adding that he will not allow his starting tight end to participate during the team's first three contact practices that begin Wednesday. "It might be a week. He wasn't able to participate in the minicamps, so I don't just want to throw him in there cold and have him do that."
As for McNabb, Reid said his starting quarterback would be ready to practice today, but could be wearing a brace on the surgically repaired right knee that prematurely ended his 2006 season.
"He'll probably start out with a brace on the knee for precautionary measures," Reid said. "I think it's just more of a security blanket for him. It gives him a little more stability on that knee. I think once the season kicks off, he'll probably get rid of that and move on, but we're going to use every precautionary measure that we can as we start. I'm going to take it slow with him."
That should be good news for rookie Kevin Kolb, who is expected to get quite a bit of work during the five practices before the full squad convenes for a Tuesday afternoon workout.
"I just want him to come out and be consistent," Reid said. "I want him to be relaxed, and to continue to become familiar with the offense and the different defenses and blitzes and fire zones he's going to see."
Reid wants Kolb to continue to learn how to become an NFL quarterback, but the coach also knows that this camp is more about McNabb and winning right now.
"I'm not coming into it thinking Donovan is going to get hurt this season," Reid said. "I'm looking at Donovan having a great season. Like I said before, he was on an MVP pace last year. I expect him to pick that up and go right through the season that way and stay healthy the whole season."
Expectations are high. Turbulence is low.
There's a definite correlation.
Extra points. Rookie receiver Dereck Faulkner, from Moorestown High School, checked into his dorm wearing a pair of spray-painted gold boots with two-inch- thick laces. The colors represent his college fraternity at Hampton University. "They mean a lot to me," Faulkner said. "They symbolize hard work, and I've come here to work. That's why I have the boots on." . . . Defensive tackle Montae Reagor said he still had 15 plates in his cheekbones from the surgery he underwent in November to repair a fractured orbital bone in his left eye. Reagor, however, said he had been cleared to participate in contact drills, which will begin Wednesday. . . . Punter Sav Rocca said this training camp was quite different from the ones he experienced when he prepared for an Australian Rules Football League season. "You got put with a police force and trained with them," Rocca said. "You'd work on your mental toughness and not necessarily the techniques of the game. They'd have guys holding a pole in the rain three or four hours after midnight, so they were sleep-deprived." . . . The morning practice today is at 8:45; the afternoon practice is scheduled for 3:30.
with mcnabb claiming to be at 75% what are the odds he opens the season as the starter? i always sort of figured that by week 1 he would be ready but im worried now.
i mean if hes 75% back physically he must be only 23% back mentally :o
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Nasti sporting a Colt Brennan for Heisman tshirt ala Heinekin graphics. very nice. didn't see him sporting that last week at the Rich Miano youth football camp.
a nugget from todays inky....
BETHLEHEM, Pa. – Rookie Stewart Bradley lined up at middle linebacker yesterday and is getting a crash course at that position until the remaining veterans begin practicing Tuesday.
"There are always going to be some linebackers you want to learn how to play a couple of positions," defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said after the Eagles finished their second practice of the first day of training camp at Lehigh University. "We want Stewart to learn the [middle] and [strongside] positions."
Part of the reason Bradley is able to line up at middle linebacker is because veterans Jeremiah Trotter, Omar Gaither and Dedrick Roper haven't reported to camp yet.
"When the veterans come in, [Bradley] will be playing the [strongside] and competing with Chris Gocong for that job," Johnson said. "Bradley is still learning the [strongside] position, and it's going to take a good training camp to get there."
I'm going up tomorrow...hopefully it will not rain and I an get some good pics and notes.
IGY, I'll get a shot of Barksdale for you...
youre my hero j
Phreak, you should take over the camp blogging duties from Josh Wheeling and John Clayton on PE.com...their updates are interesting, but your stuff is better. Hope they don't get forced back inside again tomorrow, and look forward to hearing your take on early camp. Are you going back to Lehigh any other days this week?
Really hoping Big Ed and I can get up to Lehigh next Monday, or else I probably won't make it up this year...stupid job.
No, no...you're MY hero, IGY.
Thanks, Jeff. ;D Now we just need to petition Spads to give me a job or at least an internship there. Being that I'm in school and eligible for them, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Hopefully y'all can make it up there. I can only go 3 days this year so I really hope rain doesn't farg me tomorrow. I know they won't be in pads and only rooks and injured vets are there, but still.
Sorry, Jay. You're not homertastic enough to get a gig with PE.com. Close, but not quite.
;)
which is actually saying alot, because he's pretty homertastic
Thanks! :flipoff
Ryan Moats 4 MVP!
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2007, 09:28:15 AM
a nugget from todays inky....
BETHLEHEM, Pa. – Rookie Stewart Bradley lined up at middle linebacker yesterday and is getting a crash course at that position until the remaining veterans begin practicing Tuesday.
"There are always going to be some linebackers you want to learn how to play a couple of positions," defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said after the Eagles finished their second practice of the first day of training camp at Lehigh University. "We want Stewart to learn the [middle] and [strongside] positions."
Part of the reason Bradley is able to line up at middle linebacker is because veterans Jeremiah Trotter, Omar Gaither and Dedrick Roper haven't reported to camp yet.
"When the veterans come in, [Bradley] will be playing the [strongside] and competing with Chris Gocong for that job," Johnson said. "Bradley is still learning the [strongside] position, and it's going to take a good training camp to get there."
Nothing but a gut feeling at this point... but I think the Eagles got one right this time with Bradley. If/when the Gocong experiment doesn't go as well as planned... I think he steps up and gives the Eagles a solid, stable option at SAM.
Quote from: EagleFeva on July 30, 2007, 07:30:35 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 29, 2007, 09:28:15 AM
a nugget from todays inky....
BETHLEHEM, Pa. – Rookie Stewart Bradley lined up at middle linebacker yesterday and is getting a crash course at that position until the remaining veterans begin practicing Tuesday.
"There are always going to be some linebackers you want to learn how to play a couple of positions," defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said after the Eagles finished their second practice of the first day of training camp at Lehigh University. "We want Stewart to learn the [middle] and [strongside] positions."
Part of the reason Bradley is able to line up at middle linebacker is because veterans Jeremiah Trotter, Omar Gaither and Dedrick Roper haven't reported to camp yet.
"When the veterans come in, [Bradley] will be playing the [strongside] and competing with Chris Gocong for that job," Johnson said. "Bradley is still learning the [strongside] position, and it's going to take a good training camp to get there."
Nothing but a gut feeling at this point... but I think the Eagles got one right this time with Bradley. If/when the Gocong experiment doesn't go as well as planned... I think he steps up and gives the Eagles a solid, stable option at SAM.
Ray Didy said the same thing when Eckel was trying to tell him that Bradley would be as good as the rest of the Eagles LB picks in teh draft. LOL
He's a natural SAM, and basically the best sam available in the draft. Who knows, but its never good when your backup plan is a Rookie, and the starter hasn't played LB since Highschool.
the next andy reid linebacker pick who becomes a player will be the first
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2007, 09:12:13 AM
the next andy reid linebacker pick who becomes a player will be the first
Gaither wasn't a bad pick so far.
Not to be the stupid newbie, but whats the deal with barksdale on here?
barksdale is the son of god.
but not the one who is weak enough to get himself killed
yeah that really wasnt helpful. ;D
That's the best you're gonna get, dude.
Deal.
cool.
QuoteEAGLES UPDATE: One rookie impresses, another struggles
By STEFEN LOVELACE, The News Journal
Posted Monday, July 30, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Wide receiver Dereck Faulkner had the most impressive catch of the day during the Eagles' 7-on-7 workout this morning. Unfortunately, it didn't count.
Faulkner, a rookie out of Hampton, jumped high on the left sideline and hauled in a pass from quarterback Kelly Holcolmb. He planted his right foot down and attempted to drag his left foot, but went out of bounds before getting both feet in.
Wide receiver Jeremy Bloom caught a touchdown from rookie Kevin Kolb. Bloom was in traffic as he was being shadowed by safety Chris Smith, but still got the grab. Smith tackled Bloom in the endzone and lost his shorts in the process. Smith's shorts slid down his knees, but he quickly hiked them back up after the play.
Linebacker Akeem Jordan, a rookie out of James Madison, didn't have a strong showing today in his quest to make the Eagles roster. On two different passing plays, he was beat trying to cover quicker players. Fullbacks normally aren't known for their speed, but Jason Davis burned Jackson on one play.
As expected, Donovan McNabb did not practice today.
For complete Eagles coverage, see The News Journal and
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 30, 2007, 02:59:23 PM
By STEFEN LOVELACE, The News Journal
With a name like that, you'd have to assume the porno career didn't work out.
i don't usually buy into the media trying to stir up shtein, but Sal Pal definitely does that everytime he's on DNL. Today he's trying to turn the fact that the Eagles are using the shotgun in practice into Donovan's not as healthy as he's letting on to because the Eagles don't use shotgun. Never mind the fact that the Eagles have increased their shotgun usage every year.
stop saying things that make sense
shalom my brother
Eagles 2006 Yearbook will be on ESPN2 at 7:30
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Quote from: SunMo on July 30, 2007, 06:44:01 PM
Eagles 2006 Yearbook will be on ESPN2 at 7:30
i had to watch it. i just had to watch it. on my new HDTV no less.
had to....now im pumped and will have to go to the gym to burn it off.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
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Manneans.... Its crazy how much he's become an NFL'er. 3 years ago he had a mullet.
Hah, that stache...
Westbrook brought a hyperbaric chamber to camp then declared that training camp is pointless
Bullshteintin? Or for real? :-D
partial video clip (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/eagles/073007-westbrook.wmv)
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I have no doubt they have benefits, but no freaking way could I ever sleep in one of those. I'd go nuts from claustrophobia he first night.
whatever. hes good.
Yep... as long as he has a year as good or better than last year, he can sleep on a steaming pile of shtein for all I care.
as long as he doesnt sleep in jeremy bloom
"paging pg"
(everybodys favorite) eckel is on wip right now promoting a reid mcnabb beef fest...saying mcnabb feels betrayed by andy and if andy said the grass was green at lehigh donovan would come out in his next interview and say it wasnt
betrayed by what?
Quote from: SunMo on July 31, 2007, 09:13:24 AM
betrayed by what?
Andy called Mcnabb fat and wouldnt let Donovan cut in line at the buffet
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2007, 09:11:26 AM
"paging pg"
(everybodys favorite) eckel is on wip right now promoting a reid mcnabb beef fest...saying mcnabb feels betrayed by andy and if andy said the grass was green at lehigh donovan would come out in his next interview and say it wasnt
And the point is?
betrayed by what?
the drafting of cobb
eckel was also pointing out who andys all time favorite football player is (brett farve)...and what farves claim to fame (never gets injured) vs mcnabbs current claim to fame (cant stay healthy)
he was yeasting it big time
what a stretch...even by eckel's standards
Whatever sells papers and/or gets Eckel more TV and Radio appearances.
i'm surprised he hasn't tried to get in on those Proactive infomercials with Jessica Simpson and Vanessa Williams
dawkins brought one of those chambers as well. i say put the whole team in it.
esp mcnabb.
Eckel should be happy the Phils traded for hi boy Lohse.
And whats with him and Sal Pal reaching like crazy to create controversy?
Sal Pal's insinuation about the shotgun stuff was hilarious.
i dont think ive heard anything about a hyperbaric chamber since 2004 with TO
Will the hyperbaric chamber keep Westbrook from missing any games? No.
Will Westbrook (or any other vet) bitching about the preseason make the preseason go away? No.
What is the farging point of these vets complaining about the preseaon? "Oh no, playing some warm-up games to get in shape for the real season is such a terrible idea! Wah wah wah, I might destroy my fragile body and then not be able to make millions of dollars for being naturally gifted. Wah wah wah. I'm not injury prone, I'm just a bitch."
Extend the preseason. I want to see games in June. farging bitchass, whineyass, entitledass athletes.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 31, 2007, 10:46:08 PM
Will the hyperbaric chamber keep Westbrook from missing any games? No.
Will Westbrook (or any other vet) bitching about the preseason make the preseason go away? No.
What is the farging point of these vets complaining about the preseaon? "Oh no, playing some warm-up games to get in shape for the real season is such a terrible idea! Wah wah wah, I might destroy my fragile body and then not be able to make millions of dollars for being naturally gifted. Wah wah wah. I'm not injury prone, I'm just a bitch."
Extend the preseason. I want to see games in June. farging bitchass, whineyass, entitledass athletes.
You're drunk aren't you?
I think we all know the answer to that question.
Whats funny is I was wrecked when I posted that, but could still somehow tell that you were drunk.
Well done.
actually thats not even a distant relative of funny
what a boring day
kill yourself and it will be over
maybe after i reach 10K posts...i was trying to figure out what i was going to live for after that anyway
Bacon, bro... live for the bacon.
maybe after i reach 10K posts...i was trying to figure out what i was going to live for after that anyway
20K?
ha, like i'm some kind of internet loser
16,839?
What kind of dork has 20,000 posts on a message board?
Christ, get a life you loosers.
LOL you spelled it wrong!
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
actually thats not even a distant relative of funny
I found it much more amusing last night when I posted.
Did anyone happen to go to TC today? I'd like to hear some "reports" on the days action from someone who doesn't work for PE.com
If you all crushed your nads in a desk drawer, that would make my day.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 02, 2007, 03:20:41 AM
If you all crushed your nads in a desk drawer, that would make my day.
Done! Now the drawer is broke.
mcnabb on vick in todays wash post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/01/AR2007080102193.html
"I'm a supporter of Vick," McNabb said Tuesday at Lehigh University. "That's because I'm a good friend of his and also we're guys that obviously compete to win the Super Bowl. We push each other. Now, I don't know exactly what happened in that situation, and I think for all of us that have read over the stuff that was over the Internet, the report, you look at it as kind of like, 'Wow, you've got your so-called friends and family members turning their back on you now to make their situation better.' They're throwing you under the bus so that they can clean their name. That's unfortunate. That goes to show, I always have a saying that I've always lived by: If you can't trust family, who can you trust? It's an unfortunate situation, and I just hope everything works out well for him where he can get back out on the field."
OHHH...let's blow this up and it something it's not.
McNabb's bitchy little quip yesterday about not being a rah-rah guy who will slap his teammates on the helmet, is far more worthy of blowing out of proportion. But honestly, between the NAACP and McNabb and Portis and everyone else who is 'supporting' Vick, I really wonder what the farg goes through people's heads sometimes.
Mcnabb basically said what AI said. Not like Portis who was trying to defend dog fighting.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 02, 2007, 10:00:18 AM
Mcnabb basically said what AI said. Not like Portis who was trying to defend dog fighting.
Exactly. Anyone with any reading comprehension can see that McNabb is just speaking in support of a friend, not in defense of what this guy did.
End of story.
He's a dog fighting supporter. Obviously. This is going to be a big issue this season. Mark my words.
Halftime show?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 02, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
mcnabb on vick in todays wash post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/01/AR2007080102193.html
"I'm a supporter of Vick," McNabb said Tuesday at Lehigh University. "That's because I'm a good friend of his and also we're guys that obviously compete to win the Super Bowl. We push each other. Now, I don't know exactly what happened in that situation, and I think for all of us that have read over the stuff that was over the Internet, the report, you look at it as kind of like, 'Wow, you've got your so-called friends and family members turning their back on you now to make their situation better.' They're throwing you under the bus so that they can clean their name. That's unfortunate. That goes to show, I always have a saying that I've always lived by: If you can't trust family, who can you trust? It's an unfortunate situation, and I just hope everything works out well for him where he can get back out on the field."
IMO only VERY disturbed MF's get into dog fighting. This type of behavior is one of the three signs profilers look for in tracking serial killers. Trade McNabb.
These things give the WIP morning show, Eckel and the likes of Sal Pal reason to stroke their peckers. Now they have something to bitch about and blow out of proportion...again.
I'm so sick of people bitching about McNabb saying he's the leader. I wish that goddamn word was removed from the Delaware Valley's vocabularies. It's become cliche to the point of making me want to vomit.
People act like McNabb brings this up on his own, the reaffirming himself as the leader, but he doesn't. They ask him about it. And he answers.
Salpal was on ESPN last night with the camp report and was trying to say donovan wont be ready for the first game of the season because Andy wouldnt commit to it :-D He really needs to die
As bad as Sal is he's not half as bad as Sean Salisbury. I hate that guy and think he should go the same route as michael irvin. But the thing I dont understand is that Salisbury is wrong all the goddamn time! How the hell hires these people? When he makes a prediction, bet the other way!
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 02, 2007, 01:00:05 PM
As bad as Sal is he's not half as bad as Sean Salisbury. I hate that guy and think he should go the same route as michael irvin. But the thing I dont understand is that Salisbury is wrong all the goddamn time! How the hell hires these people? When he makes a prediction, bet the other way!
QFT
what qualifications does salisbury have anyway?
he overhypes everything week by week and then when he is wrong (which he usually is all the time) never remembers to correct himself and just jumps to another bandwagon.
according to the official site...dawkins injured his achillies but nothing serious it seems.
http://blogs.phillynews.com/philly/eagles/ (http://blogs.phillynews.com/philly/eagles/)
QuotePractice 9 Observations
By Zach Berman
The Eagles just finished their most physical practice of training camp. They practiced for about two and a half hours. Here are some observations, notes and tidbits:
Brian Dawkins didn't practice. Neither did Lito Sheppard, Montae Reagor nor Bill Sampy. Dawkins was sidelined with Achilles tendonitis. The other three players were out with previously reported injuries.
The first fight of training camp happened between offensive guard Max Jean-Gilles and defensive end Trent Cole. They started the tussle during the live team drills.
Speaking of Jean-Gilles, he's been playing well this camp. He was very active today, especially on rushing plays downfield. That's likely because he's slimmer. When I spoke with him yesterday, he said he dropped 22 pounds. Jean-Gilles was a productive college player at Georgia and he's simply huge for a guard. He's still big, but now that he's lighter, he'll be able to pull more. The weight loss is akin to Shawn Andrews' last season.
The loudest ovation of the day came when McNabb scrambled downfield in the live team drills. This was the first time McNabb tucked the ball away and ran downfield.
There were many "sacks" in the morning practice. I put sacks in quotation marks because the quarterback is not allowed to be hit, but the play is whistled over with a sack.
On the play McNabb scrambled, Jeremiah Trotter shouted "sack" from the sideline.
Cornerback Joselio Hanson laid a huge hit on receiver Michael Gasperson as Gasperson went up for the catch. The referees called pass interference on Hanson.
Hanson has been playing out of the dime spot, which is likely where he'll be if he ends up on the team.
Stewart Bradley is taking most of his reps at middle linebacker. We reported on this earlier in the week, but it's a surprise he's doing it with the veterans at camp. He looks athletic out on the field, but he's still learning the position.
Dustin Fox played some tough defense on Hank Baskett in the endzone on a deep pass from McNabb. Credit Fox, although he's been a fringe NFL player throughout his career. Baskett should be able to go up and out-jump Fox for the football. for FF
The Eagles are running the football with Thomas Tapeh more often than they did the last training camp. Remember, Tapeh was a running back at Minnesota and last year was his first season back from a hip injury. Now that he's fully recovered, the Eagles might be thinking of using Tapeh in the running game.
Ryan Moats was used on kickoff returns today. That might be Moats' attempt to make the roster, because Tony Hunt is getting reps over Moats at running back.
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Check back for today's installment of "Meet the Eagles," practice 10 observations and more.
Posted by Zach Berman on August 2, 2007 12:30 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)
Thursday Morning Links
Another big day at Training Camp today. There is hitting in the morning, Takeo Spikes has his first press conference of training camp and we'll see if Lito Sheppard is back on the field.
Practice starts at 8:15 a.m. The second practice is at 2:45 p.m.
When did 5 shave his head?
Ryan Moats has been a waste of time since he came out of his moms box. End him.
Yo kids got a few questions for your training camp vets, first time im going in like 6 years (free of jew camp holla)
1. should i go to both practices, or just one
2. are special teams practices interesting at all
3. average drive to get back to city (hitting phils game at night)
4. how early you need to get there to get a decent spot to see shtein
5. places to eat
great.
1. The morning is the best...usually in the afternoon it is non-contact (10/10/10's or STs sessions). The ST sessions are boring unless you want to watch Bloom and Rocca.
2. No.
3. Dont know, I dont drive to the city but I'd imagine an hour if you leave after the morning session and 2 hours sue to traffic if you leave after the PM sessions
4. Gates open at 0630...you need to be in there to get a good bleacher spot no later than 0730. Maybe even 0715. I usually take the papers with me and sit there and read them until practice starts.
5. Starters in Bethlehem & Copperhead Grill
Quote from: Wingspan on August 02, 2007, 09:44:44 AM
OHHH...let's blow this up and it something it's not.
That's impossible, nobody from the Philadelphia Eagles ever says anything wrong, EVER!
alright thanks. probably will do thursday, they're doing 10/10/10 in the afternoon which beats gettin to see dirk shank some punts and undrafted invites miss blocks. get to see the phils hit around dontrella afterwards, though.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 02, 2007, 11:46:26 AM
Salpal was on ESPN last night with the camp report and was trying to say donovan wont be ready for the first game of the season because Andy wouldnt commit to it :-D He really needs to die
it was the first game of preseason he was talking about
I heard (950) Baskett was carted off this afternoon.....any word?
[vigy]he can't get open in the NFL[/vigy]
Quote from: jroceagles on August 02, 2007, 08:46:04 PM
I heard (950) Baskett was carted off this afternoon.....any word?
I heard the important news that Billy Sampy's going to make a push!
Hank Baskett Mania. Get on the bandwagon.
Sampy will go in there and mix it up and we'll see what happens.
As far as training camp, Starters is where the players usually go to eat. At least that is what it was like last time I went to camp (probably at least 4 years ago). I remember seeing Hank Fraley there chompin' on wings one night. I think Runyan joined him later on.
didn't Sampy just get hurt too?
Yes.
Quote from: jroceagles on August 02, 2007, 08:46:04 PM
I heard (950) Baskett was carted off this afternoon.....any word?
Leg cramps...he's fine.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 03, 2007, 08:08:31 AM
Quote from: jroceagles on August 02, 2007, 08:46:04 PM
I heard (950) Baskett was carted off this afternoon.....any word?
Cramps...turns out he's not pregnant after all.
Excellent news, and I'll preemptively give myself an F.
Give yourself a C-, I chuckled.
Nothing to do with TC but I thought this was interesting:
link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070803_Trotter_and_Spikes__So_happy_together.html)
QuoteBirds No. 1
Forbes magazine has ranked the Eagles first in the NFL in "brand value" at $90 million, the team announced.
Sponsorships, naming rights, local media, tickets and merchandise were considered in the calculations, the Eagles said - all revenues except for those generated through revenue sharing.
"It's a great credit to our organization," Eagles president Joe Banner said in a statement released by the team. "There's a lot of hard work involved. It's a true indication of the passion the city of Philadelphia has, and the great fan support this team receives."
I bolded the bottom part for igy
they certainly know how to run a business...no one can question that...i just wish he didnt have to be such an angry mean pompous ahole while doing it
Shut the farg up and give thanks to the world class organization that we've provided and you have been blessed enough to root for. [/J.Banner]
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 03, 2007, 08:53:02 AM
Shut the farg up and give thanks to the world class organization that we've provided and you have been blessed enough to root for. Because the Eagles would be in Los Angeles if it wasnt for your personal jesus Jeffery Lurie[/J.Banner]
Banner = Levy
ha...nice
wip reported all mornign that it was an hour plus wait on the roads to lehigh this morn and that 20+k was there today...of course these are secondhand reports and may be exagerated...id like to hear from someone who was there...
anyone know if phreak went up today?
That's one drawback that Lehigh has. Getting there is a pain in the ass. I knew the roads and even I was a little late last year.
Was there a backup on the secret passage, too?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
wip reported all mornign that it was an hour plus wait on the roads to lehigh this morn and that 20+k was there today...of course these are secondhand reports and may be exagerated...id like to hear from someone who was there...
anyone know if phreak went up today?
He should be there Monday, I don't think he's there today.
wip camp report from today AM
the kangaroo is "kicking the snot out of the ball"
jim johnson has a chip on his shoulder...trotter said its the angriest hes ever seen him
the skier is impressing big time both in receieving and returning..."has a great first step"
max jean vs ramsey fight of the day
two impressive rookies nick graham and marcus paschal
i never heard of graham before this camp but ive always liked paschal...wonder if hes ahead of gaddis at this point
17, 741 in attendance
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
wip reported all mornign that it was an hour plus wait on the roads to lehigh this morn and that 20+k was there today...of course these are secondhand reports and may be exagerated...id like to hear from someone who was there...
anyone know if phreak went up today?
I just got back from lehigh.
Getting there was fine. I left king of prussia at 6:45am....and pulled into camp at 7:50
really at 7:50 you pulled right into the lot with no lines of traffic?
theres been like 20 people on the radio talking about sitting in lines to get in
If Bloom can actually contribute as a returner that will instantly improve the team.
I wouldnt say no lines. But only for about maybe a 1/4 mile outside the campus. which took about 10-15 minutes.
it only took 10 minutes longer than i thought it would
you werent able to get a bleacher seat at that time were you?
not at field 1, those were just full. I did have my choice of the other field's bleachers (not the field where they were only kicking, the other one, i forget the #) and right at the fence for field 1.
I did have to chose quickly.
thanks....i was gettin all worried and was gonna leave my house at 3:30 tomorrow morn...now i can sleep in till 4
Earlier the better. I could have just gotten lucky with the timing. I think tomorrow is the only saturday of 2-a-days so i would imagine it would be packed
Wing - what was the deal with the Cowboys fan? They made it sound like he got shtein on big time.
he had some liquids thown on him...and he was booed pretty heavily...i didnt see him first hand, he was on the crowded side (with the food vendors and merchandice cattle shoot)
Very nice
Why did a Cowboys fan go in the first place...jesus...football thirsty fans and some dick shows up in a cowboys jersey? I'm surprised none of the players didn't snap and attack the guy.
They do it so they can go back and tell all their little shteinhead fellow fans about how they got to witness first hand how Eagles fans are nothing but savages and animals.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
thanks....i was gettin all worried and was gonna leave my house at 3:30 tomorrow morn...now i can sleep in till 4
Do me a favor if you can, IGY.
When you go up there... see if you can tell what Abiamiri looks like. I haven't heard ANYONE... not even Spadaro... say two words about him. I'd also like to know if Gaddis is looking as good as people are saying he is. If you could do that for me, it'd be cool.
Quote from: mussa on August 03, 2007, 03:13:19 PM
Why did a Cowboys fan go in the first place...jesus...football thirsty fans and some dick shows up in a cowboys jersey? I'm surprised none of the players didn't snap and attack the guy.
feva is exactly right. little prick can go back and tell all the butt pluggers what jerks the eagle fans are, how bad he was treated, eagles fans are iceholes, etc. Security should have never let the tool in. Hope someone does beat the west texas snot out of him.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 03, 2007, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
thanks....i was gettin all worried and was gonna leave my house at 3:30 tomorrow morn...now i can sleep in till 4
Do me a favor if you can, IGY.
When you go up there... see if you can tell what Abiamiri looks like. I haven't heard ANYONE... not even Spadaro... say two words about him. I'd also like to know if Gaddis is looking as good as people are saying he is. If you could do that for me, it'd be cool.
speaking of MIA, Ilaoa? No news is bad news. Haven't heard a peep. Phreak said he looked shakey in pass catching drills. IGY let us know if you have a Nasti sighting. Doesn't look good as of now.
From what I'm hearing on the radio Bloom is standing out at WR.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 03, 2007, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
thanks....i was gettin all worried and was gonna leave my house at 3:30 tomorrow morn...now i can sleep in till 4
Do me a favor if you can, IGY.
When you go up there... see if you can tell what Abiamiri looks like. I haven't heard ANYONE... not even Spadaro... say two words about him. I'd also like to know if Gaddis is looking as good as people are saying he is. If you could do that for me, it'd be cool.
Until this post...i forgot he was even an Eagle. He must be impressing.
ill be up there for sat sun and mon sessions...over the three im hoping to at least peep everyone once...but ill keep an eye on those guys feva (and don)
'preciate ya.
mahalo nui loa.
IGY, I'll keep and eye out for you on Monday. If you happen to check the board at all this weekend, PM me your number.
Feva,
I watched Abiamiri when I was up there on Monday. It was tough to tell much since there was no contact, but the thing that I liked about him was his size. When Spads had me on the show with him I talked about watching Victor in the 2-2 drills and he looks to play with a low center... seems to know how to get the leverage under guys and his lower body looks strong too. Spads mentioned that he might be a guy who can play some at DT as well, like Howard, because he's a bigger end.
I'm going to make sure I'm out the door early as shtein on Monday because these crowd numbers are insane. I do not want to get stuck in traffic and miss anything.
I don't know how many in here are watching the training camp live shows but since I won't make it to camp this year I have been all in it.
Anyway Phreak I caught your Eagles network premier and you acquitted yourself well. I mised Murp somehow but you did a great job.
Just wanted to add this little nugget to the discussion.
On one play in the "live" drill, ones (offense) against twos (defense) the offense ran that nice play where they fake the handoff to the right and flip it out to the left to Westy. Usually this play is worth at least four or five yards just because of Westy's athleticism.
Well not this time.
Trent Cole was on the right side of the D-line and not only did he immediately diagnose the play but got to the outside so quickly Westy had no choice but to try and cut back on him. I am thinking well this DE (couldn't tell it was Cole first time I saw it) is in no man's land and Westy is about to make him look bad. My only hope was that the guy wouldn't injure himself trying to tackle Westy in the open field. Then something happened I did not expect. The DE took Westy down, alone on an island.
Cole has to be the most agile DE the Eagles have had in some time including the Freak.
Dude is amazing.
Guess who?
QuoteJevon Kearse looks great. I heard a fan moan at practice on Friday afternoon that Kearse looks "skinny," but that is a bum rap. Now that the story has taken a life of its own, fans who don't educate themselves just follow the headlines. Kearse looks like he looked last year and the year before.
Art?
From too much hair to none
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 03, 2007, 04:57:34 PM
From what I'm hearing on the radio Bloom is standing out at WR.
That's impossible. He's white.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 04, 2007, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 03, 2007, 04:57:34 PM
From what I'm hearing on the radio Bloom is standing out at WR.
That's impossible. He's white.
That's how he's standing out. Like a sore thumb.
bloom is non existent when it comes to wr
fargin mike gasperon was gettin more reps than him today
however on the returns bloom to me can be special....his hands are charmin and his quickness is uncanny...i cant wait to see him in a game...monday nite crackamore...ill be there drunk
Sorry I missed you there, IGY. I was there yesterday (Saturday) morning. That place is totally nuts anymore.
I'm really wondering about Bloom. Dude has some quick moves, but the WR field is pretty full, and somehow I think the only way he makes the roster is via special teams.
yeah i was looking for you sus...not sure how i missed your big ass but i did
just got back from a really long morning practice
some thoughts
bunkley is an absolute freak of nature...his body is ripped to shreds...he seriously looks better than any linebacker...to be honest i wonder if he isnt to small to play tackle...to see him and patterson next to each other is comedy
abarimani - i wasnt a big fan of his at notre dame and to be honest what ive seen so far this weekend has confirmed what i believe to be true...like phreak said great size but he just doesnt have any explosiveness or quickness at all...reminds me of darwin walker when he would move outside...to me he could be a valuable reserve down the road...comes in an injury situation and a guy like darwin was a few years back who could play a little inside and a little outside but isnt especially good at either...
nate llaoa - sorry don but i cant see this guy making the team...has none of the "quicknessm for a big guy" that some of his college tape showed...at this level i just dont see that speed and in the goal line situations of which they have run many the last two days i dont even see much power from him...i was looking for a little bowling bowl bouncing off people into the end zone and that just wasnt there
stewart bradley - is way lost out there but i think jj loves him as he is constantly on him...much more so than any other player..to me it was jj thinking highly of bradley as opposed to bradley farging up
kevin curtis - the star of todays session...had an amazing end zone catch where he tip toed the back line and smashed into the goal post...the whole team went nuts...after the play as avant was coming back to the sideline he says "that boy is CRAZY"...curtis also caught a beautiful 60 yard td pass from mcnabb
speaking of avant his hands are fabulous...not as good as derrick faulkners tho who over the last two days imo clearly has the best hands on the team
gocong is much more toned up this year...not nearly as doughy...i still dont like the way he moved and hus pursuit is weak...i dont see him running with te's ever or running down any backs...but i hope im wrong
spikes and trotter are absolutely out of their minds...they are gonna be special this year
westbrook wasnt out there this morning...it may have been posted ont he board already as to why but im out of the loop up here so i apologize if im behind...didnt see dawk either...and no lito
darren howard runs with a big knee brace on...it must effect him to because he was terrible out there
cobb is brutal right now...his delivery needs to be worked on imo..he throws to low and needs to come over the top more...a lot of times looks like he side arming it
trent cole is possesed...he ate tra thomas for lunch both days in the one on ones
donovans looks sharp with the throws but is not moving very well imo...id be not shocked but surprised if he plays at all in baltimore
i dont know about chad johnson but phreak may be closer to right than wrong about reggie brown...he looks fantastic and is primed for a breakout season this year if the ball doesnt get spread around to much
tony hunt was underwhelming...had a couple bad fumbles..andy was all in his shtein after todays blunder at the goal line
hank baskett dropped an easy touchdown today and proceeded to do 25 push ups in the end zone after it...crowd loved it
winston justice the good: hes really beefed up this year...much thicker and in a good way
winston justice the bad: kid gets beat a lot
lj smith was out there looking good...seemed fully healed to me...tho hes not taking hits yet...how this guy isnt a star is beyond me
all reports on considine are true...hes definitely bigger this year...just hope he can run with guys
ill post some pics later...
Good stuff, igy.
:yay
some of the wr and you can see the "new" winston justice
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mcnabb to chad johnson
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a special shout out to don ho
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avant givin 5 a pound
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Quote10:21 AM: The 11-on-11 part of practice ends with Kevin Kolb completing a screen pass to Nate Ilaoa, who navigates his way around the defense and takes off down the sidelines. Ilaoa caught a lot of passes out of the backfield in Hawaii, and it looks as though that is how he can be best used in this system. The horn blows and the team moves into some special teams to end practice.
from pe.com
he will make this team!
Probably not. Westbrook, Buckhalter and Hunt looks to be it.
Good stuff IGY. Appreciate it. :yay
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
Probably not. Westbrook, Buckhalter and Hunt looks to be it.
I'm thinkin Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, Tapeh, and either Moats or Ilaoa. That 5th slot has been Reno Mahe the last few years so I think they could keep a 5th guy again, and it'll probably come down to who they think can bring more to the table on special teams.
I'm still trying to get over the positivite tone of IGY's post.
:-D
That and McNabb with no hair. Taking pointers from Spudz, Don?
IGY clearly drank the Eagles Kool Aid they were serving at camp over the weekend. Have no fear, our IGY will be back soon enough.
Also - what's the deal with Spadaro & the goat? Why not just grow some mutton chops to go along with those pitiful looking chin pubes?
Curtis with the butta 60-yd jawn on the fly. That's my dawg.
Quote from: Munson on August 05, 2007, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
Probably not. Westbrook, Buckhalter and Hunt looks to be it.
I'm thinkin Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, Tapeh, and either Moats or Ilaoa. That 5th slot has been Reno Mahe the last few years so I think they could keep a 5th guy again, and it'll probably come down to who they think can bring more to the table on special teams.
That fifth spot is more likely to be Bloom's.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2007, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 05, 2007, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
Probably not. Westbrook, Buckhalter and Hunt looks to be it.
I'm thinkin Westbrook, Buck, Hunt, Tapeh, and either Moats or Ilaoa. That 5th slot has been Reno Mahe the last few years so I think they could keep a 5th guy again, and it'll probably come down to who they think can bring more to the table on special teams.
That fifth spot is more likely to be Bloom's.
I'm starting to think they're going to cut GLew and keep Bloom as the 5th WR/Return man. Spads has been pimpin Bloom all camp as a WR and I havn't heard one mention of Greg Lewis yet from him.
They could alsokeep those top 5 WR's, only 4 RB's, and then use that extra slot on another Dlineman or LB or somethin instead of Moats/Ilaoa.
id be shocked if GREG LEWIS (dont ever call him g lew again nerd) got cut...but if he does it wont be for bloom...it will be for another wr...bloom is in for mahe...end of story...
as for the kool aid shtein i call em as i see em...always have and always will...so romey and pg step off the dills....peacers
REGGIE! BROWN!
Validation.
Yeah, the first week of preseason practices completely overrides two mediocre seasons of actual NFL games...
Go team.
REGGIE! BROWN!
Validation.
word!
I asked Spadaro if he could have one of his cameramen record the practices from a higher vantage point. I suggested maybe the grandstand so we could get a better view of the plays on the field.
He said that he already tried to get permission but that the grandstands were off-limits.
WTF?
:paranoid
maybe stop talking to spadaro you little flag
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2007, 05:05:46 PM
id be shocked if GREG LEWIS (dont ever call him g lew again nerd) got cut...but if he does it wont be for bloom...it will be for another wr...bloom is in for mahe...end of story...
as for the kool aid shtein i call em as i see em...always have and always will...so romey and pg step off the dills....peacers
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GLew.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2007, 07:11:10 PM
maybe stop talking to spadaro you little flag
I didn't talk to him, sweetiekins. I asked him a question on the EMB and he answered it.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 05, 2007, 07:06:04 PM
I asked Spadaro if he could have one of his cameramen record the practices from a higher vantage point. I suggested maybe the grandstand so we could get a better view of the plays on the field.
He said that he already tried to get permission but that the grandstands were off-limits.
WTF?
:paranoid
Because the good view it gives us also gives teams who actually do scout raw practice footage a good vantage point too.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2007, 05:57:02 PM
Yeah, the first week of preseason practices completely overrides two mediocre seasons of actual NFL games...
I did that just for you, by the way.
And his 1-2 years were good considering he was a rookie on a shtein ass team and then he improved last year. And the fact that he's an Eagle who was drafted by the Eagles and is showing progress is reason to get some optimism going.
1200 yds this year.
78-1201-15 TDs!
He beats TO by one in every category.
Okay, I'm calm. I think. Maybe not.
Whats your thoughts on the GOAT Rashad Barksdale, mr. igy?
he farging sucks
hes a downer if ive ever seen a player at a camp
always shrugging his shoulders and walking away after plays...i seen him ignore a coach three different times this weekend...if youre a 6th round pick you should be blowing every single person thats even remotely affiliated with the eagles...that includes towel boys...bird nest camera men....ball boys...rory segrest...the dood in the merchandise tent and the guy in the bleachers cheering kevins curtis' route running
i hate myself for saying this but he does none of it
hes a first cut
Wow. Whoever would have guessed.
And igy unloads a full clip on Barksdale. Wow.
gawd knows i wanna like him..i really do...but again i gotta call em as i see em.
dook is a dog
Practice squadder. He's raw as hell, so I want to see how he develops. Or maybe they stash him as an inactive.
I want to see whats up with CJ Gaddis though. Because if him, Rashad and Ilaoa don't pan out, thats three wasted picks.
Marcus Paschal or Erick Harris are going to push Gaddis as that 4th S.
im pretty sure i didnt see gaddis once this weekend...amd yes he was out there
The early word on him, pre-hitting sessions, was that his head was lost in the playbook. So he's slow at picking up the defense.
I read that Tony Hunt killed Big Mouf Will James today on the goal...that James' helmet took off rolling down the field without his head in it.
but wait isnt gaddis dawkins version 2.0?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 05, 2007, 11:05:32 PM
but wait isnt gaddis dawkins version 2.0?
Think it might be early to lay the smackdown on Gaddis. Coming from a vanilla defense to here has gotta be info overload. Safeties are asked to do a lot in J.J's defense. Jury's still out.
IGY,
Thanks for the Ilaoa update. I figured things weren't looking to bright for him as there has been little talk of him the past week.
Nice pictures. Man you scored some great seats.
I'm feeling not sleepy so I'm just gonna not go to sleep and head up to TC today. Phreak, if you read this, I'll try the Munson shout and see if I can find you up there. Should be a good sleep deprived day.
I'm laughing at the idea of you roaming through a crowd shouting Munson.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2007, 10:03:58 PM
he farging sucks
hes a downer if ive ever seen a player at a camp
always shrugging his shoulders and walking away after plays...i seen him ignore a coach three different times this weekend...if youre a 6th round pick you should be blowing every single person thats even remotely affiliated with the eagles...that includes towel boys...bird nest camera men....ball boys...rory segrest...the dood in the merchandise tent and the guy in the bleachers cheering kevins curtis' route running
i hate myself for saying this but he does none of it
hes a first cut
:'( :'( :'(
Thanks for that report anyway IG's.
tough choice with today's pe.com poll
QuoteWhich Injured Eagle Most Needs To Get Back On The Field To Help In 2007?
LB Dedrick Roper
DT Montae Reagor
DT Ian Scott
S Brian Dawkins
I am confident all will be OK. No rush
I don't know, that Dedrick Roper is an important piece of the puzzle...
Two of those guys wont even be on the starting day roster, and Dawk aint one of those 2
Im guessing Mr Roper and Mr Furley are both cut
Damnit, I had to leave at 9:30 because my work decided they needed a day host and couldn't find anybody else.
From what I did see, the WR's look pretty sharp. Bloom is definately the most agile of the group. Eagles fans will love Kevin Curtis.
I don't know if I saw anyone up there...I was in the beater and the white hat with the hair poofin out the sides. Basically I should have been wearing a seashell necklace.
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MUNSON! MUNSON! MUNSON!!!
I read that Tony Hunt killed Big Mouf Will James today on the goal...that James' helmet took off rolling down the field without his head in it.
they were w=orking hunt yesterday...one series had him run the ball on five striaght plays..the one where he ran over james into the end zone...the biggest collusion tho was hunt going for a 12 yards around midfield and ripping into a safety...i believe gaddis but the hit was so whoa i didnt even look to see who it was...i wsnt to impressed with hunt the first two days but he was in a groove monday...even tho its just a practice it shows that he really is the kind of back who gets better the more carries he gets
barksdale came back strong yesterday...i dont know if he was tired or just out of it this weekend but he was brain dead sat and sun...yesterday he actually looked real good
With Buckhalter sitting out with a knee problem and Tony Hunt getting a lot of reps is it too early for me to be excited about the possibility of Buckhalter finally being let go?
yes
and even if he does get released, it all but guarantees that Ryan Moats and his windmill running technique have made the team
Well farg you, I'm doing it anyway. In fact, I'm beating one out to a picture of Nate Ilaoa right now.
great...now i'm beating one out to a mental picture of you beating one out to a picture of Nate Ilaoa right now
buck looks good imo...much better than last year...problem is him and hunt are the exact same player and we know hunt isnt getting cut
moats is finished
Quote from: SunMo on August 07, 2007, 08:59:46 AM
yes
and even if he does get released, it all but guarantees that Ryan Moats and his fumbling ass have made the team
Buck is on the team until he blows out another knee. The only problem is, we don't know if that will be the next play, next week or next year.
Westbrook
Buck/Hunt
Ilaoa on the PS
I hope Moats didn't bother unpacking.
Moats is kind of like a Joni Pitkannen. All the natural talent is there, but a brain smaller than a deer.
I still think people were only amped on Moats because we were so god-awful bad in 05. When you got Mike Mcmahon at quarterback, your running game is gonna look pretty damn good
Wait, so have we jump-started the Barksdale bandwagon back up?
i don't think that's, possible it's up on blocks, stripped clean
The wheels ain't fell off yet, beyotches.
They might be rusty as hell and the tires may have a flat or two... but they ain't fell off yet.
Kid just needs a little time.
Wait, so have we jump-started the Barksdale bandwagon back up?
its always been on...we just had a little detour there for a minute
feva had to take the wheel and get us back on track...im ridin shotgun
Anyone else from the "old" EMB having a severe case of deja vu right now?
Left turn.
ha...on to St. Louis!
From the Blog on PE
Quote9:42 AM: There's a girl wearing a Clinton Portis taterskins jersey for some odd reason, must not have had the money to get into Dan Snyder's camp.
:-D
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 07, 2007, 11:40:00 AM
Anyone else from the "old" EMB having a severe case of deja vu right now?
Left turn.
Not a severe case rather a nerdy internet type.
The EMB SBE was shipped to Iraq to be used for suicide bomb training.
That is all.
IGY where were you yesterday? We were trying to track you down, man.
I just got back from todays session too. Tony Hunt is a beast. Although his receiving skills need to be polished up a bit. He dropped a few and fumbled one (OG stripped him at the goal line).
CJ Gaddis killed Hunt yesterday though. CJ has come on strong as hell.
I'll write a goddamn book in a minute about the last two days
i was at the 50 yardline in the field 3 big bleachers
also i totally disagree on gaddis...that collision went both ways with neither player having a one sided advantage
what about Considine?
you said he was def bigger, but has he shown anything that leads you to believe he will be any better against the run?
no i didnt but that doesnt mean anything over the course of three traning camp practices...i didnt really see him do anything (good or bad) outside of be bigger...but safties in practice dont exactly get many chances to tackle...most of it is non contact and the small parts of the contact portion seem to stay close to the line of scrimmage...i think in three days one rb got clear into the back field and that was hunt...im sure there were a couple others
i guess by default he should be able to tackle better since hes bigger but id be more concerned with his pursuit and whether hes gonna be able to get to the ball carrier and more so be able to run in coverage...i mean hes noticably bigger...perhaps to much so
regardless of size i just dont think hes a starting safety...perhaps with the improvement at lb and hopefully dl he will be protected and not exposed nearly as often
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
regardless of size i just dont think hes a starting safety...perhaps with the improvement at lb and hopefully dl he will be protected and not exposed nearly as often
my thoughts exactly
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
i was at the 50 yardline in the field 3 big bleachers
also i totally disagree on gaddis...that collision went both ways with neither player having a one sided advantage
hunt got his in there, but i thought gaddis was the guy who got the best shot in. He lowered the pads on him good
1. My first point is going to be about Takeo Spikes. I'm going to say that watching him play LB is so nice. I almost cannot believe we have a "real" playmaking LB. After some of the junk we've seen over the years it is a nice thing to see. Him and Trotter are inseparable and I love it. Spikes' ability to NOT be blocked is what stands out to me. To watch him flow to the ball down the LOS is great. He knows the angles of pursuit and how to keep OL's hands off of him. He made a GREAT play yesterday by running down Ryan Moats from across the field. Moats took a short pass and Sheldon tried to tackle him. Moats shook him off but here come TKO to crush him. Amazing. No hitch in his step, dude is a beast. Me and a friend welcomed him to Philadelphia while on the sidelines yesterday.
2. I really watched Gocong a lot the past two sessions and the good thing about him is he is a big guy who plays downhill. His run defense is much better than his pass coverage right now though. I mean, he can run with the TEs and backs, but he is still raw when it comes to coming out of his break and his drops into coverage. But he doesn't allow himself to get blocked much like Dhani did. Jones would hit the OL at the point of attack and that was it. Gocong takes on the blocker and sheds him and looks to make the play.
3. The linebackers as a whole I am excited about. Not only because Gocong doesn't look like crap or because Spikes is a man-child, but because Trotter is lighter and because Omar Gaither is playing his ass off too. Omar is not only vocal, but he is making plays in the nickel and as a backup MIKE. Today he had a nice pick and he also stripped Tony Hunt at the goal line as Hunt caught he ball. Stewart Bradley is a good sized LB who likes to lower the shoulder on guys. He is also raw when it comes to the coverages, but he (and Gocong and Tank Daniels) work every day after practice with McDermott and Mike Caldwell on the drops and angles.
4. Ian Scott and Montae Reagor arent out there yet but that doesn't worry me much because they are vets and they'll be fine when the season rolls around. And even if they are not, LaJuan Ramsey, who I liked a lot last year, is playing very, very well. He blew up a few plays yesterday and today as well. He has been on the offensive side of the line of scrimmage regularly.
5. Brodrick Bunkley is also impressive. He's lighter and playing with some purpose. He was knifing through the OL today and had a few TFL's. Mike Patterson looks to me that he put on a few pounds, and has been relatively quiet. Which is not bad but I would like to see more from him. Ramsey and Bunkley have been doing most of the damage from that position. Jeremy Clark is picking up valuable snaps too...he might be a PS guy.
6. Lito was out yesterday and today as was Dawk. Will James is playing for Lito with Joselio Hanson now the nickel guy. Hanson has really progressed compared to this time last year. He has been a solid pick-up for them. He no longer needs a huge cushion to play, he will jam guys.
7. Nick Graham is a guy who I think makes the team. He was all over the place yesterday. If they go with 5 corners, Graham has the edge on Barksdale, IMO. He also had a good day today but appeared to be hurt at the end of practice after making a pretty nice pick.
8. AJ Feeley looked bad yesterday and followed today up with another bad session. I don't know what his deal was but it wasn't pretty to watch. Step it up, AJ.
9. Kevin Kolb is pretty good from what little we see of him. He has good mobility and a strong arm. His flaw thusfar has been that he seems to be reluctant to let it rip sometimes. Like he checks it down a bit too much for my taste right now. Let it fly, Kolb. You have to not be afraid to pull the trigger on the long balls. Obviously its because he is young and wil need time to learn the timing. He's also a good dude to shoot the breeze with for a minute. I talked to him briefly today while he was on his way to the WIP tent. I used to live in Texas so I told him I knew all about Stephenville and that we played them when I was a senior. He wasn't on the team then, but I told him that I knew how crazy that town was for their team.
10. Holcomb is Holcomb. Solid but not spectacular. Throws a good deep ball and is a guy who I'd be comfortable with if he had to play.
11. Tony Hunt was worked like crazy these past two days because Buck has been out. Yesterday they fed him the ball time after time and he was blowing dudes up. Him and CJ Gaddis had a beautiful collision in the live drills yesterday. Gaddis lowered the boom on him, but Tony took it and also got his little shot in there too. For everyone who wanted a horse, Hunt appears to be one. Sometimes he runs high like Eddie George, but he'll drop down too. His pass catching needs some work...nothing big, but he had some drops. He also coughed one up after Gaither stripped him at the goal line after a catch.
12. McNabb was out yesterday but playing today. He looks good. He had a little limp towards the end of the day today, but nothing bad. He still took his snaps. He still has the same zip on the ball although he missed a few deep balls because he was front legging them a bit. They came up short.
13. Victor Abiamiri is a big dude. He's built well and is tall. I mentioned last week how it seems he leverages himself well...and he does. He is not a pas rushing demon like Cole, but he can get some pressure. His job I think, is going to be closing off that edge on running plays. That is what the size allows him to do - anchor down and control the edge.
14. Jason Avant was murdered today by Quintin Mikell. I though he was dead for a minute. He still held on to the ball though. He is a fly-paper handed mofo. He catches everything. Mikell lowered the helmet on him and it was pretty loud. Good solid lick and a great job to hold onto the ball.
15. Barksdale is picking his game up a bit too. He's still behind Nick Graham, but you can see some of his skills starting to come through. He had a great INT today. The ball bounced off a receiver, then rolled down the receivers leg and was flipped up into the air. Barksdale picked it and then took it for six.
16. Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis had some drops today. Bad ones too. Curtis was a stud yesterday though. ToastJenkins brought up a good point about how you can tell how polished Curtis is from playing in a Martz offense. His routes are crisp and he knows what the hell he's doing. Today when he had the drops he would do pushups after them and after practice he went to the Juggs machince and caught about 100 balls as punishment for himself. I liked seeing that.
17. Brian Westbrook made a few people look stupid today. Kind of like he did to Tony Parrish in that SF game in 2003 when Parrish and his jock were separated from each other. The first case of him embarrassing someone was Crazy Matt McCoy on 1-1 drills. Westbrook just shook him and got open with ease...turned McCoy around like a top. Then later on the running drills Cole and Howard had him cut off on the outside - or so they thought. Westbrook left them both grasping for air while he motored past them. Cole and Howard were left with grass in their hands and lying on the ground.
18. Better hope Smith makes it through the season, folks. The cupboards are bare behind him. Seriously.
19. Considine has bulked himself up well. He seems to be tackling with more authority and his coverage is also better too. He was running a clinic today on breaking up passes in the backs and TE vs. DBs and LBs drills.
20. Does Jason Davis have a shot at beating out Tapeh? Maybe. But his hands better get better if he wants to beat him out. Davis is a guy who I like and I think Tapeh better be ready to fight for the job. That is not to say Thomas has been bad, because he has not, but Davis is a player, IMO.
21. The light has come on for CJ Gaddis...these last two days he has been making plays. And dishing out some licks too...I liked what I saw from him now versus last week.
22. Ryan Moats is frustrating to watch. Why? Because he can play in the NFL when you look at his speed and moves and all of that stuff. But the damn fumbling...jeez, come on Ryan. Hold onto the ball!! Whats weird is his receiving has improved big time from last year...but yet he still has the dropsies. I love his speed and vision though. Going to be a damn shame if he doesn't work out here because I think he has a future as a decent back in the NFL.
23. MJG is one big dude even after slimming down a tad last year. He's still behind Mr. False Start Scott Young, but he seems to be getting better. I cannot wait to see him in the games.
24. The OL as a whole is still strong and stable. Although the DL is giving them some good battles. No Andrews the last two days because of his ankle, which sucked because I watched to watch Big Shawn murder some folks.
25. Sav Rocca, like TKO, is a physical specimen. That guy KILLS the ball. And his holding isnt too shabby either. Dirk was shank-a-riffic for the most part today although he got some good ones off. But thats his problem...consistency. I really think (and hope) ROcca wins that job.
26. The Freak was flying around a lot today...he made two very nice plays back to back both times for a TFL. He ran Hunt down when Tony tried to go outside and then he ran down a play on the opposite side a few minutes later. He is not as emaciated as people are making him out to be either. Dude's still got game.
27. Matt McCoy is Hannibal Lecter. We all know he has a few screws loose after watching him go nutzo on guys he hit last year. Its funny to watch him with his two different colored eyes, orangeish hair and loner mentality. He is like a caged animal out there...loony. He is hitting some people good too.
28. Marques Murrell is a small DE who is fast. No shot of making the roster but def. guy to watch out for on the PS.
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AJ Feeley is notorious for his reputation as a player that practices like shtein but comes to play on gameday. Apparently, he's living up to it even now. Good for him.
Not much talk on Sheldon Brown...anything?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
i was at the 50 yardline in the field 3 big bleachers
also i totally disagree on gaddis...that collision went both ways with neither player having a one sided advantage
Hah! So was I for a little while. How far up the bleachers were you?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2007, 02:34:10 PM
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Yeah, thats it. It was fun to watch him juke both Howard and Cole...amazing cuts, that guy.
mus,
Sheldon has been okay. Gets beat more that I would like to see at times, but is still physical. But its hard to get a great read because sometimes they just let the guys catch the ball without much challenge. I would hope he realizes that Will James is playing pretty good though...
westbrook is so far and away better than everyone else on this team its not even funny...his effortlessness is incredible...hes truly a man amongst boys out there
MVP?
IN
if he got the rock more on the ground and proved he could be a durable back all year long, id say ride that horse til its dead cause that man has skills. IMO underused in the offense and its almost sickening too me. he needs to get the ball on the ground at least 20 times himself. pass all you want I just want it in his hands at least 20 times a game.
Gotta love Curtis making himself do pushups! How many guys in the NFL do you see doing that...
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 07, 2007, 03:41:11 PM
Gotta love Curtis making himself do pushups! How many guys in the NFL do you see doing that...
at Least 3
Hank Baskett did that on friday. And TO does it after each TD
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 07, 2007, 02:27:55 PM
22. Ryan Moats is frustrating to watch. Why? Because he can play in the NFL when you look at his speed and moves and all of that stuff. But the damn fumbling...jeez, come on Ryan. Hold onto the ball!! Whats weird is his receiving has improved big time from last year...but yet he still has the dropsies. I love his speed and vision though. Going to be a damn shame if he doesn't work out here because I think he has a future as a decent back in the NFL.
Interesting quote from Moats in the paper today:
Quote
Moats said he's trying to mimic the way Tiki Barber carried the ball late in his career, when Barber finally solved his fumbling problems.
"High, you know how Tiki carries it, overexaggerates it," Moats said. But theory obviously is one thing and practice is another.
"You start getting sweaty and sloppy, everything gets slippery. You just have to concentrate on holding it," Moats said.
"I'm just playing ball, having fun. I'm not really competing with anybody. I'm just trying to make Ryan Moats better."
Cutty cut cut.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 07, 2007, 02:34:10 PM
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He looks like he used The Force to throw Parrish to the side. Amazing clip.
And Westbrook usually gets 20 "touches" a game, but I would like to see him get at least 20 carries a game. Sure, he has great moves in the open field on screens and swing passes, but he also has great vision at the line of scrimmage and that should be used more as well. Here is hoping for good health.
I want him getting it 22 times a game. I don't care if it's run or pass, he needs to be in that 20-25 touch a game range. An 18 runs to 4-5 receptions would be a good mix.
I can't wait until Monday. Unfortunately for me it's not on TV, maybe they'll re-air it on NFL Network or something.
Anybody going to that game? I think I'm going to end up with a pair of tickets from a guy that I work with. Going to an eagles game in baltimore is probably the closest comparison to what its like for an opposing fan in philly. Those guys are nuts and its worth the trip just to piss em off!
But they're definitly not the 700 level!
raven fans arent nuts...but its a preseason game anyway when no fans are nuts
and yes ill be in the cribbo
This from the ESPN TKO article in the other thread:
QuoteThird-year WR Sheldon Brown is performing like the man the Eagles expect to be Donovan McNabb's top target this season. Check out what else Jeffri Chadiha observed at Eagles camp.
Unless most other camp observers have missed a major switch.... it shows enough about the quality of some journalists....
Phreak where were you at/what time did you get there during the morning session on Monday?
QuoteBETHLEHEM, Pa. -- Four observations from Philadelphia Eagles training camp, gleaned from Monday's practices:
Donovan McNabb
Quarterback
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2006 Season Stats Cmp Att Yds Pct TD Int
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1. McNabb making progress
The Eagles had no concerns about quarterback Donovan McNabb sitting out Monday's practice. He said his surgically repaired right knee was sore, so head coach Andy Reid didn't debate the topic. The reality is that it's best for Reid to let his star signal-caller rest at certain points of the preseason, regardless of injury. Reid has been known to take a similar approach to other proven veterans during training camp, just to make sure they can stay fresh for the regular season.
McNabb's teammates feel pretty confident about his health. They've watched McNabb plant and throw with no problems and they said he's also looked comfortable cutting when scrambling.
"There's no way I could be a 100 percent right now," McNabb said. "But I feel like I'm in that 80 to 90-percent range. I'm able to do all the things I could do before I got hurt. But I'm also trying to be careful as well. Today I felt sore so I decided to sit this one out."
2. The return of Jevon Kearse
The Eagles coaches also like what they've seen from DE Kearse, who is coming off an ACL injury that ended his 2006 season after two games. Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said Kearse has displayed enough quickness to prove that he can still be a difference-maker but, as is the case with McNabb, the staff closely monitors Kearse's practice reps to ensure he's not overworked. The last thing the Eagles need is for him to suffer a setback in his own recovery.
Kearse remains valuable to the Eagles because he's still a capable pass-rusher who also can create problems even when the quarterback leaves the pocket. His athleticism is especially vital because it allows him to thwart bootleg plays from his left defensive end position. To understand how much that means, just consider that Darren Howard, a talented pass rusher in his own right, struggled after moving from right to left end after Kearse injured his knee. Now that Kearse is back in his old spot with Howard and Trent Cole splitting time on the right side the Eagles should feel confident about their ability to get after the quarterback.
3. Brodrick Bunkley's growth
Another encouraging sign for the defensive line is the maturation of DT Bunkley. He's come into camp in better shape and Johnson said Bunkley has a stronger grasp of his role in the defense. Though the Eagles' woes stopping the run can't solely be attributed to Bunkley's struggles as a rookie -- Philadelphia ranked 26th against the run -- it's fair to say his disappointing first year didn't help much. In fact, it would be an understatement to say Bunkley was a disappointment last season.
He slipped into Johnson's doghouse by displaying poor practice habits after a lengthy training camp holdout and he also didn't understand the defense well enough to get on the field much early in the year. The former Florida State star seemed so lost at times that it seemed as if the team had a made a colossal mistake by selecting him 14th overall in the 2006 draft.
"The thing that really hurt Brodrick is that he missed most of camp last year," Johnson said. "That caused him to get off to a terrible start and he never really had much confidence. So far, he's been as good as can be expected. It's taken him a year to learn the techniques we want him to use but he certainly looks like a different player right now."
4. Spotlight on Reggie Brown
Don't be surprised if this third-year wide receiver enjoys a breakout season. That seems to be the sentiment among his teammates, many of whom say he's become a more polished player during the offseason. Brown always had obvious potential -- he caught 46 passes for 816 yards and eight touchdowns in 2006 -- but now he's clearly performing like the man the Eagles expect to be McNabb's top target this season.
As Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown said, "He's really improved his quickness and his separation. I'm not trying to put Reggie in the same category as Marvin Harrison, but Reggie is running his routes with the same type of smoothness."
Brown's progress is crucial to the Eagles' offense because there will be so many new faces in different positions at receiver. The Eagles will use Kevin Curtis, a former St. Louis Rams backup who signed with Philadelphia during the offseason, as the other starter while second-year veteran Jason Avant has practiced well enough to be the front-runner for the third receiver spot. The fourth receiver spot likely will go to Hank Baskett unless Greg Lewis is able to unseat him.
I dont care what people say about the Freak being Skinny, look at him
(http://media.philly.com/images/20070808_dn_Z1EAGL08S.JPG) At the risk of sounding like Spads, jesus christ man, friggin ripped
Is that a recent camp photo? He looks leaner but that's not always a bad thing.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 08, 2007, 11:51:26 AM
Is that a recent camp photo? He looks leaner but that's not always a bad thing.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20070808_Birds_D_showing_its_depth.html (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20070808_Birds_D_showing_its_depth.html)
its on Philly.com marked as from Camp so i'll assume its yesterday.
i do like the fact that Curtis disciplines himself after dropping passes.
If Reggie Brown could develop into a legit #1 WR, the Eagles will finally be set at the WR position without having to sign a nutcase to do so.
Quote from: Munson on August 08, 2007, 02:25:59 PM
If Reggie Brown could develop into a legit #1 WR, the Eagles will finally be set at the WR position without having to sign a nutcase to do so.
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Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 08, 2007, 11:45:08 AM
I dont care what people say about the Freak being Skinny, look at him
(http://media.philly.com/images/20070808_dn_Z1EAGL08S.JPG) At the risk of sounding like Spads, jesus christ man, friggin ripped
the scary part is him and his agonizing faces when he gets a cramp or some other minor injury. he makes it look like he just lost an arm.
Looks like Andrews might have won the injury race.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=13529
hope its nothing serious :-\
i hate when they say precautionary measures, cuz it always seems to be more than that later
The obviousness of mussa's comment aside, I couldn't agree more.
Think of it this way: No Andrews means Scott Young starts.
I have to believe they'd put MJG in at this point. From what I've read, seen, and been told MJG has been a beast in camps. It would suck balls if Andrews missed any meanignful time, only more with Young replacing him.
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Andrews likes what he sees
EAGLES NOTEBOOK. Guard notices some of himself in second-year lineman Jean-Gilles.
Monday, August 06, 2007
By NICK FIERRO
The Express-Times
BETHLEHEM | Every time relatively slender Eagles guard Shawn Andrews looks at fellow guard Max Jean-Gilles, he sees a former vision of himself.
Andrews believes Jean-Gilles, drafted in the fourth round out of Georgia last year, is following almost the exact career path as he did after entering the league in 2004. He can't help but like what he's seeing.
"I always heard his name thrown around," Andrews said, "and there were always comparisons between myself and Max back in college. ... I see a lot of similarities there. It's kind of like an out-of-body experience seeing him and knowing that we have so much in common."
Like Andrews was heading into his second year, Jean-Gilles, listed at 6-foot-3 and 358 pounds, is still trying to get his body right. Translation: more salads, less of everything else.
But his upside is tremendous.
"When he puts everything together, it's going to be scary," Andrews said. "It's going to be very, very scary. He's going to be a force to be reckoned with, I can guarantee you that."
Andrews, meanwhile, hasn't been lighter than his current 336 pounds since high school.
"The sky's the limit for me now," he said. "All I have to do is polish my technique, get fundamentally sound, and it's on."
Westbrook was allowed to leave camp for personal reasons and it sounds like he won't be back, this is according to Brookover's video blog
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/9038747.html
Quote from: SunMo on August 08, 2007, 04:36:37 PM
Westbrook was allowed to leave camp for personal reasons and it sounds like he won't be back, this is according to Brookover's video blog
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/9038747.html
are you the guy who just called Foreskin saying he left camp and wasnt coming back?
shut up
Quote from: SunMo on August 08, 2007, 04:36:37 PM
Westbrook was allowed to leave camp for personal reasons and it sounds like he won't be back, this is according to Brookover's video blog
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/9038747.html
It's passing time!
Westbrook and Andrews are nonessential pieces of the plan. Let's see more Billy Sampy.
his hyperbaric chamber needed repairs i guess
even his heart is fragile it appears
Probably family issues.
wow, really?
Is it possible it has to do with that overpayment issue? Ive been internet deprived for the better part of the past two weeks, but I don't remember him giving that money back. ???
looks like I was off.... I just saw this on the EMB
Quote
POSTED 5:56 p.m. EDT, August 8, 2007
WESTBROOK IS AT A FUNERAL
A league source tells us that running back Brian Westbrook is absent from Eagles camp because he's at a funeral.
With that said, we're confused as to why coach Andy Reid didn't simply say so on Wednesday, instead of creating the impression that something akin to T.O.'s 2005 ticket home had gone down.
Presumably, Westbrook will return soon.
Its from PFT's rumormill, so take it for what it is worth.
while i think the secrecy that surrounds so many meaningless happenings with the eagles is ridiculous at no point did andy make it seem like it was anything remotely close to the TO situation
Quote from: SunMo on August 08, 2007, 04:46:24 PM
shut up
geez man i was just asking, about 330 someone called into Eskin's show saying that
just heard on wip that lj went down at camp with a groin injury that looked to be serious...anyone see anything about this on the eagle site?
Resign him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2007, 09:45:24 AM
just heard on wip that lj went down at camp with a groin injury that looked to be serious...anyone see anything about this on the eagle site?
The site said that LJ missed practice yesterday with "groin soreness"... doesn't say anything about this morning's practice though.
QuoteAlso missing practice Wednesday were tight end L.J. Smith (groin soreness), safety Marcus Paschal (leg spasms), cornerback Dustin Fox (Achilles), running back Correll Buckhalter (knee), linebacker Dedrick Roper (foot) and defensive tackle Ian Scott (knee).
wip right on top of things as usual
Is Shawn Andrews injury prone yet?
Frontpage of PE
QuoteTight end L.J. Smith reaggravated his sports hernia injury during Thursday morning's workout. Running back Tony Hunt also left practice with an ankle sprain. Catch up on all the latest from Lehigh ...
:-\
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Eagles Notes | A rookie tight end catches Reid's eye
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Andy Reid admitted he doesn't like doing it, but then did it any way.
Asked to name some players who have exceeded his expectations, the head coach listed three names, starting with rookie tight end Brent Celek.
"I hate picking guys out," Reid said. "But obviously you guys have seen the tight-end situation with Celek. It looks like he's done a nice job."
That may not be much of a quote, but it's quite a compliment for Celek, a fifth-round pick out of Cincinnati who has run with the starting offense because of L.J. Smith's delayed return from sports-hernia surgery.
"It's a good feeling, but I can't sit here and dwell on it," Celek said after special-teams practice yesterday. "I know, and I know [Reid] knows, that I need to get a lot better. . . . I have to keep working hard."
Celek has run solid routes and shown good hands during the first two weeks of training camp, but now he wants to see how he measures up in a preseason game. He probably will run with the first-team offense Monday night against the Baltimore Ravens. It seems unlikely that Smith will play.
"I just try to take advantage of every opportunity I get," Celek said. "It always helps when you're going against the best of the best, and that's what happens when you're running with the first and second team."
Celek, best known to Rutgers fans for his 83-yard catch and run for a touchdown that helped end the Scarlet Knights' bid to go unbeaten last fall, said he needs to get more consistent catching the ball.
"I feel like there have been a lot of balls that I have let get away," he said.
He's hoping that doesn't happen Monday night against the Ravens, a game he's already been thinking about.
"This is my dream," he said. "I can't say enough about how happy I am to be here. Now I'm going to get a chance to show that I can play in a game. Practice is practice. That's the time to get better and hone your skills. But the games are what matter. I'm excited to get out there against other people besides our own."
Reid also mentioned rookie defensive end Victor Abiamiri and wide receiver Kevin Curtis as players who have impressed him.
"I think most of the young guys on both sides of the football [have done well]," the coach said. "The young guys look like they're very productive right now."
Sampy's setback
Wide receiver Bill Sampy was highly regarded coming into training camp and figured to push Jeremy Bloom for the jobs of kick and punt returner. Instead, the former Louisiana-Lafayette star is nursing a bruised quadriceps that Reid said is going to take a while to heal.
"This isn't helping him, but there's really nothing he can do about this one," Reid said. "He has a quad contusion and those are tough to come back from. He's a pretty tough kid . . . and I think he'd do anything to get out here, but he just can't."
- Bob Brookover
No need to worry! Scrap Iron was a late round surprise out of Cincinnati, that must mean Celek is the exact same type of player, right?
Seriously though, looks like he's already bumped the Shoboat down a rung. Haven't heard much about Celek from the training camps....
I love how the eagles hit so much in camp, but maybe this why most other teams dont.
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 09, 2007, 11:38:21 AM
I love how the eagles hit so much in camp, but maybe this why most other teams dont.
You may be on to something there. Great deduction!
nice.
Your obviousness aside, i still dont understand though why LJ waited to have that surgery when he did.
id like to know why he was practicing
they havent even played a game yet
hes a veteran of this offense
that is coming off an injury
that usually takes longer to heal than shorter
guy didnt need to be going at full speed until at least another two weeks
that haiku sucked.
:-D
injury stuff to give you warm and fuzzies in the bathing suit area
lj went down in a fetal position for several minutes today...looked bad
andrews will be in a walking boot and on crutches for the near future to rest his surgically repaird ankle
kearse knee is bothering him
i just make myself feel better by saying they weren't going to win the Super Bowl anyway
they could tho if relatively healthy
but add the above in with
dawk nowhere to be seen
mcnabbs injury potential
and it makes it difficult to imagine they can get thru this season with enough players to do it
whats funny is the eagles thing was always to jettison guys who got to and moved passed 30
now almost half their D is past that magical age
btw has darren howard been healthy for more than one day since hes been here
why is the andrews injury news being delivered to us so slowly. all they told us is that he will be on crutches...but ok did the doc give a timetable? what is it? whats the severity?
is this shtein really happening...what a nightmare...
im guessing lj's injury can't be too serious. he went down for a bit, but was able to get up and walk off the field. i aint no doctor, but i dont think he'll miss too much time.
nate ilaoa sucks
goat barksdale was solid. struggled with zone coverage but was dominate in man on man. of course, he was matched up with the likes of jeremy bloom and something gasperspoon, but he didnt let those chumps get by him.
tough day for korn on the kolb, looked pretty terrible. threw a pick, could only complete checkdown routes. just bad.
akeem jordan was unstoppable in the 1-1 drills against the tight ends and running backs. didnt let up a single catch. beast.
rocca and dirk both suck. this will be a problem.
ryan moats looked really good. i know, i know. but he did. i was really surprised. i still think hes a waste of oxygen, but he looked good.
stew bradley, chris cocong and matt mccoy were just putrid. got beat by brent celek, lee vickers and even thomas tapeh in the drills. giather, spikes and trot should be the only 3 linebackers allowed on the field.
aj feely as a nice thick moustache. the guys behind me were givin it to him pretty good for it. he was laughin about it, but man, that thing is jake plummer esque. nice work, gotta respect the stache.
Donovan walked off the field and onto IR during the Dallas game in 05
tough day for korn on the kolb, looked pretty terrible. threw a pick, could only complete checkdown routes. just bad.
brian satari on wip said kolb had his best day of camp and looked great including throwin a long td
im guessing lj's injury can't be too serious. he went down for a bit, but was able to get up and walk off the field. i aint no doctor, but i dont think he'll miss too much time.
the stomach bone is connected to the feet bone?
im thinking MDS petty much provided the worst camp report in the history of earth
like most things in my life, i consider it very mediocre
I just hope Dawkins heads TKO's warning and takes it easy with the tendonitis. Loosing him would be about as bad as loosing mcnabb again. Imo, thats one of the positions where we are way too thin.
nah, they're fine, Sean Considine lifted weights in the off season
Mike Lewis will get cut by the Niners and the Eagles can bring him back for the vet minimum. Problem solved.
Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2007, 02:29:27 PM
nah, they're fine, Sean Considine lifted weights in the off season
Ha! Good call.
donovan darius
MDS was obviously dropping acid today
QuoteEagles | Smith carted off practice field
Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:44:31 -0700
PhillyBurbs.com reports Philadelphia Eagles TE L.J. Smith (hernia) was carted off the practice field Thursday, Aug. 9, after catching a pass in the middle of the field. Eagles head coach Andy Reid said he was not sure how serious the injury was.
Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2007, 02:39:51 PM
MDS was obviously dropping acid today
QuoteEagles | Smith carted off practice field
Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:44:31 -0700
PhillyBurbs.com reports Philadelphia Eagles TE L.J. Smith (hernia) was carted off the practice field Thursday, Aug. 9, after catching a pass in the middle of the field. Eagles head coach Andy Reid said he was not sure how serious the injury was.
i didnt see no cart. i saw him get up and hobble on off. perhaps once he got to sidelines and my focus went back to the field there was a cart, but a cart didnt come onto the field to get him.
sure thing little buddy
not that anybody cares, but i really despise the layout of PE.com!
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 09, 2007, 03:27:20 PM
not that anybody cares, but i really despise the layout of PE.com!
Nobody cares.
that wasnt predictable at all
you're coming along nicely
anybody going to camp tomorrow? Its supposed to be pretty nasty weather wise
I guess the jew missed this too:
link (http://gcobb.com/content/view/404/1/)
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Reid Ties Into Trot And The Defense
Written by Garry Cobb
Thursday, 09 August 2007
Those of you who are familiar with the coaching style of Andy Reid know that he's very slow to criticize his players publicly. That's why I was stunned when he scolded his defense today at practice.
A number of times this morning during a relatively short workout Andy walked over the defensive huddle and started reprimanding them for letting the backup offense move the ball against them. Ryan Moats juked his way to about five yards up the middle. A.J. Feeley connected with Jason Avant on a slant route for about 7 or 8 yards. After each play Reid walked over the defense and let them know he was happy with their performance.
Finally Reid just blew his stack, looked over at the defensive huddle with Jeremiah Trotter standing out front getting ready to make the call, and said, "I guess I need to get Gaither back in here" Yes that's what he said and he knew that all of the reporters were within earshod to hear his statement. Clearly this statement was aimed at middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter. Gaither had made a few plays earlier in the practice and has had an outstanding camp.
In all fairness Trot has had a good camp as well but he just can't do much against the pass any more. Gaither on the other hands has gotten better. He's got a fresh pair of legs and a nose for the football. It's going to be very interesting how they use these guys as the season continues. Stay tuned.
Holy shtein.
that's going to be a problem, teams are just going to throw more on 1st and 2nd down when Trots in there if he can't play the pass
I don't think Trot will be in there for 1st and 2nds after game four. Gaither, from all accounts, has outplayed him in camp and it's not like Trot is going to miraculously get back to his pro-bowl form.
I love that Andy called him out
I care
trot is the only person in camp more out of shape than andy
But Donovan doesn't have abs anymore!
andy really did look fat. i thought he lost weight.
also gcobb had a stupid old time straw hat on.
Quote from: MDS on August 09, 2007, 05:21:59 PM
andy really did look fat. i thought he lost weight.
also gcobb had a stupid old time straw hat on.
The last three pages makes me more furius that we used our highest draft pick on a qb. What are the two perfect perfect risk/benefit positions to pick during the 2nd round: TE and Saftey.
but wait from all the camp reports...trotter was over the field and the best shape of his life. wtf?
you guys mean to tell me that everyone is not doing superb at camp? wtf ive been lied too!
I like how Reid was talking about Gaither in front of anyone though. Supposedly he's been showing more and more "leadership." Now I think leadership is completely overrated, just that outside of Cole it's nice to know the Eagles actually have a really good young defensive player that we know will be around for awhile.
Quote from: Dillen on August 09, 2007, 06:22:12 PMNow I think leadership is completely overrated
It is certainly talked about way too much, as though people know what the farg it is, and who has it. To hear a player called a leader in the lockerroom makes me want to vomit. It's just a way of filling a page, nothing more.
The Eagles were looking relatively healthy going into the season, all the injuries that were reported were passed over as minor, and now it seems like as the days go by there is more cause for concern.
Wonderful.
Reid does his job and calls out a player not performing, wow, you guys amaze me with all the excitement
have you followed this team at all for the past 8 years?
I'm not going to worry about injuries until September. Let's see how they develop over the next few weeks.
im trying to figure out whats more animated....reids sideline antics or his hysterics at post game pressers
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
It is certainly talked about way too much, as though people know what the farg it is, and who has it. To hear a player called a leader in the lockerroom makes me want to vomit. It's just a way of filling a page, nothing more.
"In the locker room" is completely bullshtein, but Gaither is a leader on the field. You could see it on the field last year in the preseason and the games he played. He gets on people and directs them what to do, all that stuff. Dope ass 6th round pick.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 09, 2007, 08:12:04 PM
I'm not going to worry about injuries until September. Let's see how they develop over the next few weeks.
I'm in this camp as well.
I'm in the panic-and-say-something-snarky-about-how-goddamned-injury-prone-this-team's-stars-are-simply to-get-people-riled-up camp.
You ought to be in a concentration camp.
Bacon.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 09, 2007, 10:45:38 PM
I'm in the panic-and-say-something-snarky-about-how-goddamned-injury-prone-this-team's-stars-are-simply to-get-people-riled-up camp.
And this is different because...
No bacon.
Awww skeet.
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 09, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
I just hope Dawkins heads TKO's warning and takes it easy with the tendonitis. Loosing him would be about as bad as loosing mcnabb again. Imo, thats one of the positions where we are way too thin.
If McNabb heads TKO, it will get all the reporters off the injury stories.
Three words too long to be funny.
im waiting for any day the announcement to be made that andrews is out 6-8 weeks
walking boot and crutches?...wtf
something is much more serious than they are leading on
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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 06:33:06 AM
im waiting for any day the announcement to be made that andrews is out 6-8 weeks
walking boot and crutches?...wtf
something is much more serious than they are leading on
That's what I'm saying. You don't just put a guy in a boot and on crutches as a precaution... and then you see him playing 2 weeks later.
The good news on the front is that supposedly there's no structural damage on his ankle.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2007, 10:46:45 PM
You ought to be in a concentration camp.
I
could use a shower.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 10, 2007, 07:07:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 06:33:06 AM
im waiting for any day the announcement to be made that andrews is out 6-8 weeks
walking boot and crutches?...wtf
something is much more serious than they are leading on
That's what I'm saying. You don't just put a guy in a boot and on crutches as a precaution... and then you see him playing 2 weeks later.
The good news on the front is that supposedly there's no structural damage on his ankle.
Westbrook was on crutches last year before the season and that turned out ok
The good news on the front is that supposedly there's no structural damage on his ankle.
thats good news for sure...makes my heart race a little slower...was this in today paper or on the eagles site?...cause i havent anything more than andy say that they are resting him
From Spadaro on PE.com. . .
QuoteAndrews' condition was updated in a statement from head coach Andy Reid, which provided little clarity. Reid said that Andrews will rest his right ankle with the aid of a walking cast and crutches for the next few days and then will be re-evaluated. The good news is that Andrews, who underwent a battery of look-sees from the Eagles' medical department, has no apparent structural damage. We know that because Reid would have indicated that in his statement. As it is, we are left to wonder and to hope that Andrews is out for only a short period of time and is ready for Green Bay on September 9.
So if Andrews is really hurt and MJG doesn't get the starting nod over Scott Young I'm gonna go ahead and kill all of you.
Fair warning.
The good news is that Andrews, who underwent a battery of look-sees from the Eagles' medical department, has no apparent structural damage.
so he might have structural damage it just hasnt been found yet
We know that because Reid would have indicated that in his statement.
yeah because andy is always forthright with the public.....especially when it comes to injury related stuff
As it is, we are left to wonder and to hope that Andrews is out for only a short period of time and is ready for Green Bay on September 9.
so theres no structural damage and that was "good news"...yet we can only hope that hes in for the opener
that blurb was one of the most worthless vague and piss poor attempts at spinning to the positive ive ever seen
i still cant get over the "andy would have told us" comment......WOW
Quote from: rjs246 on August 10, 2007, 08:24:14 AM
So if Andrews is really hurt and MJG doesn't get the starting nod over Scott Young I'm gonna go ahead and kill all of you.
Fair warning.
Lies. You'd be too weak from your concentration camp internment to kill anyone.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 08:24:54 AM
The good news is that Andrews, who underwent a battery of look-sees from the Eagles' medical department, has no apparent structural damage.
so he might have structural damage it just hasnt been found yet
We know that because Reid would have indicated that in his statement.
yeah because andy is always forthright with the public.....especially when it comes to injury related stuff
As it is, we are left to wonder and to hope that Andrews is out for only a short period of time and is ready for Green Bay on September 9.
so theres no structural damage and that was "good news"...yet we can only hope that hes in for the opener
that blurb was one of the most worthless vague and piss poor attempts at spinning to the positive ive ever seen
i still cant get over the "andy would have told us" comment......WOW
Yeah, I kinda agree... that's why I said "supposedly"... considering the source.
(More) good news is that it's August. Nobody wins shtein in August. Andrews is a vet now and really doesn't need camp too much... and we've still got a month before we even get to the opener.
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Daddy, what does 'fourth string' mean??
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 10, 2007, 08:38:21 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 10, 2007, 08:24:14 AM
So if Andrews is really hurt and MJG doesn't get the starting nod over Scott Young I'm gonna go ahead and kill all of you.
Fair warning.
Lies. You'd be too weak from your concentration camp internment to kill anyone.
I didn't say I'd wrestle you all to death. How much energy do you think it takes to toss out a well placed headbutt or 20? Let me tell you, not very much.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 10, 2007, 07:58:37 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2007, 10:46:45 PM
You ought to be in a concentration camp.
I could use a shower.
great line, with bonus points for well used italics
gold star
im just concerned that rest isnt going to do it....and that even if it temporarily helps it the minute he starts ballin again its gonna pop back up...ultimately requiring a second surgery...
if it was a simple sprain that would be one thing...but going to ankle specialists and now on crutches and in a boot screams much more to me...
i just dont know why spadaro would write all that garbage and then in the last line say all we can do is "wonder and hope"...meaning you really dont know shtein about anything douchebag...its one thing to write garbage about how the receivers look at camp or whos gonna win the punter job but dont farg around when it comes to a potential serious injury to arguably the teams best player...shut your hole until you have pertinent information
on WIP they are reporting that Runyan and Scott Young both left the field on a cart this morning
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 10, 2007, 09:57:58 AM
on WIP they are reporting that Runyan and Scott Young both left the field on a cart this morning
I'm happy with Scott Young going down, Runyan is a huge problem with Andrews in a boot.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 10, 2007, 09:57:58 AM
on WIP they are reporting that Runyan and Scott Young both left the field on a cart this morning
Are you farging serious?
As for Andrews I think its just a sprain which
happens to be on the same ankle he had surgery on. They're just taking precautionary steps in case there is something wrong. His ankle has been fine for 3 years
Scott Young left a quarter of a second before runyan did.
So whos gonna play OL on Monday night, considering the starters usually leave after one or 2 series??
Andrews OUT
Runyan OUT
Young OUT
LJs probably out for a little while. And if he tore his "groin" area again i wouldnt be surprised to see the Eagles put his arse on the PUP list until, what is it week 10 or something?
Supposedly Runyan is ok according to another board, the cart was more of a precautionary measure plus the large distance from the field to the tent
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 10, 2007, 10:18:44 AM
So whos gonna play OL on Monday night, considering the starters usually leave after one or 2 series??
Andrews OUT
Runyan OUT
Young OUT
My guess: Justice - MJG - N.Cole - Rodgers - P.McCoy before the "who??" people come in...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 10, 2007, 10:32:40 AM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 10, 2007, 10:18:44 AM
So whos gonna play OL on Monday night, considering the starters usually leave after one or 2 series??
Andrews OUT
Runyan OUT
Young OUT
My guess: Justice - MJG - N.Cole - Rodgers - P.McCoy before the "who??" people come in...
but that line will probably get to play the entire first half and most of the 3rd quarter
Time to sign Eugene Chung then
i feel sick to my stomach over all these injuries...literally
someone make me happy
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Quote from: Wingspan on August 10, 2007, 10:10:41 AM
Scott Young left a quarter of a second before runyan did.
Now this is funny.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
i feel sick to my stomach over all these injuries...literally
someone make me happy
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or
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(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/08-06/0802andrews.jpg)
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 10, 2007, 10:48:00 AM
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Quote10:42 AM: A few commments after practice. First, injuries. The big news of the day was an update on L.J Smith. Head coach Andy Reid said Smith suffered a groin injury that was unrelated to his sports hernia, but was suffered in the same area. The seriousness was not elaborated on, and his condition will be closely looked at. Ironman tackle Jon Runyan left the practice early. The word from Andy Reid is back tightness, which at the moment doesn't sound too serious. Guard Scott Young also left practiceRJS might get his wish. A full injury report will follow soon on the site. Reid also announced this morning would be the last morning of live contact for the rest of training camp, ending a marathon ten-day stretch of morning practices with a hitting period. The afternoon practice will a special teams practice at 2:00 PM today. We'll be back this afternoon with a minute-by-minute update of the goings-on this afternoon.
good news on runyan but i wont be happy until i get some specifics on andrews
Just to reiterate Ant and Steve said Runyan is fine
QuoteHead coach Andy Reid said Smith suffered a groin injury that was unrelated to his sports hernia, but was suffered in the same area.
I find that extremely hard to believe
alls i know is tra thomas has a small ass for a man that size
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
alls i know is tra thomas has a small ass for a man that size
OMG Spadz hacked MDS's login
I find that extremely hard to believe
real talk
remember during mcnabbs abdominal injury there were many times where they listed him with a groin injury...and even the final dallas injury was initially reported to be a groin tear
Oh, that bit about the unrelated injury to LJ is horseshtein. One way or another, it's related. And there's really no question about it.
If anyone expected LJ to play in preseason games, you're officially teh stoopid.
He was a long shot for the regular season opener and now with this latest flare up, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it back at all this year. In fact, considering it's a contract year for him, you can pretty much guarantee he won't unless he's 100% which we know he won't be any time soon.
if he was a long shot for the season opener to begin with....can you explain why he was participating in full contact practices more than a week before the preseason opener
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 10, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
If anyone expected LJ to play in preseason games, you're officially teh stoopid.
He was a long shot for the regular season opener and now with this latest flare up, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it back at all this year. In fact, considering it's a contract year for him, you can pretty much guarantee he won't unless he's 100% which we know he won't be any time soon.
the Eagles seem to dog players who are in contract year and want wayyyy too much money. He will be lucky not to get placed on IR. Whos the 2nd TE for opening day? Lee Vickers??
They'll probably use the injury as an ecxcuse to offer him lower money.
TE's would be Schoebel and Celek.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 10, 2007, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 10, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
If anyone expected LJ to play in preseason games, you're officially teh stoopid.
He was a long shot for the regular season opener and now with this latest flare up, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it back at all this year. In fact, considering it's a contract year for him, you can pretty much guarantee he won't unless he's 100% which we know he won't be any time soon.
the Eagles seem to dog players who are in contract year and want wayyyy too much money. He will be lucky not to get placed on IR. Whos the 2nd TE for opening day? Lee Vickers??
its either Celek or Showboat depending on LJ's status
the Eagles seem to dog players who are in contract year and want wayyyy too much money
ding ding ding
now i dont think they were purposely trying to get him hurt....but shawn andrews is in a WALKING BOOT AND CRUTCHES for a sprained ankle...and lj smith is thrown out there in full contact two a days two months after abdominal surgery
things that make you go hmmmm
If anything, L.J. would be chomping at the bit to get out there. He's the one who needs to play to get paid.
All the conspiracy theories about the extent of the evil in the Eagles' FO are hilarious, though, so let's up the stakes. Wouldn't it be easier if L.J. was killed? Then, NO ONE would blame the FO for not re-signing him. Frankly, I think IGY should hire up some bad-ass bodyguards for his boy before it's too late.
I think its karma, the Eagles always seem to know when to dump players, and those who try and hold the Eagles for ransom always seems something bad happens to them at some point.
its not karma it banners swirly lolipop
If anything, L.J. would be chomping at the bit to get out there. He's the one who needs to play to get paid.
yeah because getting out there way to early and injuring yourself for the year is the perfect way to showcase yourself...i cant think of a better way to impress the rest of the league than to look good at lehigh
Don't know where else to put this and figured it hasn't been mentioned:
Perhaps the greatest announcing team ever has been assembled to cover 3 meaningless, generally boring eagles preseason games: Gus Johnson, Ike Reese and David S. Padaro will be the monumental tripod announcing the games. Seriously, Gus is the best announcer in the business. Ike is boss. And Spads is high comedy at all times for unquestioned and nonstop taintlicking of everything Eagles. Gooood times.
Quote from: MDS on August 10, 2007, 03:17:56 PM
Don't know where else to put this and figured it hasn't been mentioned:
Perhaps the greatest announcing team ever has been assembled to cover 3 meaningless, generally boring eagles preseason games: Gus Johnson, Ike Reese and David S. Padaro will be the monumental tripod announcing the games. Seriously, Gus is the best announcer in the business. Ike is boss. And Spads is high comedy at all times for unquestioned and nonstop taintlicking of everything Eagles. Gooood times.
just have to hit the mute button on the SlingPlayer Monday!
Thoughts from camp today:
CJ Gaddis looked AWFUL. Gasperson was throwing him all over the place in the one on one drills
If Kolb is the future, it better be a hell of a long time from now
I agree with whoever's been mentioning that Bloom looks good in the receiver sets.
Met TKO today... He makes Gaither look like a high school kid.
Maybe this was mentioned already (didnt check), but false start Young left on a cart this morning
I realize Kolb is a rookie who will most likely enter the season inactive but does he really look that bad? Every report I hear/read says he looks awful.
Actually he throws a pretty good ball. It just seems like everytime he gets a rush in his face he starts dancing and looking for his checkdowns.
Its funny but i noticed today that a three backups throw a better ball than mcnabb. Also noticed that (atleast today) McNabb seems to be throwing entirely off his front foot not wanting to put much weight on his bad leg... IMO, we better not see 5 in live action for atleast two weeks.
He still wears that brace....so what do you expect?
Also like how when McNabb comes out he gets a nice cheer from the crowd. Bossman Garcia what.
I wouldn't read anything into how Kolb is playing now. Some quarterbacks are starting for a few years in the NFL before they become decent players; expecting anything out of a rookie QB other than showing up and doing his work is a little silly, especially when there's no way in hell that QB will actually have to play his first season. Maybe he actually does suck balls and always will, but getting worried over how he's performing under his first NFL rush in his first NFL training camp seems way unjustified to me.
i agree that it means little at this point...but ill add that all three days i was there kolb looked hideous
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
i feel sick to my stomach over all these injuries...literally
someone make me happy
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group suicide
Dudes thats one of the piers at waikiki isnt it
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 10, 2007, 09:30:10 PM
Dudes thats one of the piers at waikiki isnt it
you are correct sir! down on the diamond head side of waikiki where they show the sunset on the beach movies.
nice inky article on the 05 draft class...the heckert quote about bad pro bowl players is jokes
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20070811_Class_of_2005__From_losers_to_winners.html
Heckert didn't say that the Pro Bowl players were bad. He said the teams were bad who had a few Pro Bowl players on them.
yeah youre right but its not exactly clear and is followed up by the ridiculous notion that they dont need superstars...perhaps thats why they always get the the edge of a championship but not quite over it
anyway pretty cool how all the 05 guys are so close...whitey and the brothers breakin bread together...good shtein
Quote from: Don Ho on August 11, 2007, 05:20:10 AM
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 10, 2007, 09:30:10 PM
Dudes thats one of the piers at waikiki isnt it
you are correct sir! down on the diamond head side of waikiki where they show the sunset on the beach movies.
I used to live in Manoa Valley. The movies were a goog time too if you got there early enough. Man sometimes i really miss that place!
I talked to a sports physician at my gym yesterday about sports hernia's and groin injuries. Apparently he agreed LJs injury was unrelated to the surgery. He said the surgery is done in the abdomen area and that if there was a set back it would have been in that area. Of course this means nothing but it made me a tad optimistic.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2007, 08:11:00 AM
nice inky article on the 05 draft class...the heckert quote about bad pro bowl players is jokes
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20070811_Class_of_2005__From_losers_to_winners.html
I don't know about going paintballin with Matt McCoy, he seems like he'd be that guy that would take it way too seriously and actually hurt somebody.
It's a shame he's too small to be a full time starter because the guy is pyscho. Keep him around as a situational/special teams guy though.
WIP reported Andrews has a sprained ankle.
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Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 11, 2007, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 11, 2007, 05:20:10 AM
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 10, 2007, 09:30:10 PM
Dudes thats one of the piers at waikiki isnt it
you are correct sir! down on the diamond head side of waikiki where they show the sunset on the beach movies.
I used to live in Manoa Valley. The movies were a goog time too if you got there early enough. Man sometimes i really miss that place!
went to school at punahou at the entrance to Manoa Valley. beautiful place. where did you live?
Quote from: NGM on August 11, 2007, 05:07:39 PM
WIP reported Andrews has a sprained ankle.
shtein, those never heal. that will bug him all year.
they especially don't heal because they leave just enough room for movement that it becomes an issue of pain tolerance. some dudes have really high tolerance, but the pain is still there and it's still limiting them.
they need to rest him until he's fully healed.
I know these things. I did drugs instead of sports.
PE.com has an article up called "Is MJG The Second Coming Of Shawn Andrews?". That right there tells me that Andrews is out until at least November.
Wait a minute - is it an ankle sprain, or a high ankle sprain? The first goes away in a couple of weeks. The second drags on forever...
Nothing to do with Training camp but this is a great article (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070812_A_rocky_start_on_the_road_to_success.html) on Reid and his first year coaching the Eagles.
Quote from: Cerevant on August 12, 2007, 06:53:30 AM
Wait a minute - is it an ankle sprain, or a high ankle sprain? The first goes away in a couple of weeks. The second drags on forever...
The report just said sprained ankle, and then WIP played a clip of Reid saying it was sprained. It could be either.
McNabb Officially Out Monday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2971012)
They want to start him out on grass instead of FieldTurf. No problems with that.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 12, 2007, 08:35:50 AM
Nothing to do with Training camp but this is a great article (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070812_A_rocky_start_on_the_road_to_success.html) on Reid and his first year coaching the Eagles.
Agree, nice article. It gives a good behind the scenes look of that head coach fraternity - interesting how Parcells called Reid even when they were division rival HC's and got on AR to suck it up and keep moving
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
i feel sick to my stomach over all these injuries...literally
someone make me happy
time for a visit from truckrathman.
time for a visit from truckrathman.
POTW
our pal sal ( get it? its a play on words...hehee) said on espn that reid didnt wanna play mcnabb on that astro turf but followed by saying the ravens field was ranked 4rth best last season while the eagles was ranked 26th.
i believe that...
that field always looks terrible. i wouldn't be surprised if they replace the grass with turf like New England did last year
Quote from: Eagaholic on August 12, 2007, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 12, 2007, 08:35:50 AM
Nothing to do with Training camp but this is a great article (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20070812_A_rocky_start_on_the_road_to_success.html) on Reid and his first year coaching the Eagles.
Agree, nice article. It gives a good behind the scenes look of that head coach fraternity - interesting how Parcells called Reid even when they were division rival HC's and got on AR to suck it up and keep moving
I'm surprised Reid spoke so candidly He usually never reveals that sort of personal stuff to the media.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 12, 2007, 10:25:07 PM
our pal sal ( get it? its a play on words...hehee) said on espn that reid didnt wanna play mcnabb on that astro turf but followed by saying the ravens field was ranked 4rth best last season while the eagles was ranked 26th.
26th huh? The Vet must be so proud.
What's wrong with the Linc grass in August/September/October??
There's nothing wrong with the field. And since Army/Navy isn't being played in Philly and Temple plays its last game there on November 17th, the field should be in good shape in December & January.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 12, 2007, 11:24:39 PM
There's nothing wrong with the field. And since Army/Navy isn't being played in Philly and Temple plays wins its last game there on November 17th, the field should be in good shape in December & January.
the field looks like shtein for the first game of the year...the middle of the field looks worn and it only gets worse and the season goes on
Quote from: Don Ho on August 12, 2007, 10:28:39 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 12, 2007, 10:25:07 PM
our pal sal ( get it? its a play on words...hehee) said on espn that reid didnt wanna play mcnabb on that astro turf but followed by saying the ravens field was ranked 4rth best last season while the eagles was ranked 26th.
26th huh? The Vet must be so proud.
It must be about 6 years ago Billick cancelled the preseason game because the Vet turf was so bad. There are some things I miss about the Vet >:D
Quote from: Don Ho on August 11, 2007, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 11, 2007, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 11, 2007, 05:20:10 AM
Quote from: ThirdStreetMafia on August 10, 2007, 09:30:10 PM
Dudes thats one of the piers at waikiki isnt it
you are correct sir! down on the diamond head side of waikiki where they show the sunset on the beach movies.
I used to live in Manoa Valley. The movies were a goog time too if you got there early enough. Man sometimes i really miss that place!
went to school at punahou at the entrance to Manoa Valley. beautiful place. where did you live?
I lived about a 3 minute walk from the UH manoa campus... pretty much between that and the safeway/starbucks/ mcdonalds shopping center thing... cant remember what that plaza is called
Quote from: SunMo on August 12, 2007, 10:27:42 PM
i believe that...
that field always looks terrible. i wouldn't be surprised if they replace the grass with turf like New England did last year
I can guarantee you that as long as banner/lurie are in charge of the team, they will never play on anything other than grass. Both of them said that following the Akers game winner in wildcard weekend last year. I really hope they stick to that too!
yeah!
go eagles!!
go grass!
I just Shamed!
Quote from: SunMo on August 12, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
the field looks like shtein for the first game of the year...the middle of the field looks worn and it only gets worse and the season goes on
It only looks worn because Lurie uses sheep and cows to keep the grass short instead of a landscaping crew.
the golden standard!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 13, 2007, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: SunMo on August 12, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
the field looks like shtein for the first game of the year...the middle of the field looks worn and it only gets worse and the season goes on
It only looks worn because Lurie uses sheep and cows to keep the grass short instead of a landscaping crew.
he's too cheap to get llama's, typical
QuoteCost of parking up $9
The cost of parking for Eagles games at Lincoln Financial Field has been increased from $11 to $20 this season, starting with tonight's exhibition game against the Carolina Panthers.
The parking increase includes all lots in the sports complex, which cover about 22,000 parking spaces.
Though the 82 percent increase is substantial, the Eagles' new price is not out of line with what is being charged in many other NFL cities. The Chicago Bears charge $40 for parking, the New England Patriots $35, the Cincinnati Bengals $31, the Washington taterskins and Green Bay Packers $30, the Dallas Cowboys $23, $38 and $43, and the Baltimore Ravens $25.
Delightful.
i guess the Wachovia will stay the same because that's not controlled by the Eagles
The article said all 22,000 parking spaces. I assume that includes the Wach lots.
i guess the Wachovia will stay the same because that's not controlled by the Eagles
i was wondering that myself...the eagles cant control what goes on in any lot but the linc lot...however im sure it was a coordinated effort by all the lot owners to raise the prices...
i almost hope it goes up cause if it doesnt every douchebag in the world will be trying to take our spots
They'll take any opportunity to rape the general public.
We're only talking about nine friggen dollars, but still, it's the principle of the thing.
it would really irritate me to have to pay $20 to park for every game, especially since i usually drive down by myself
its been ten bucks for like 20 years...which was ridiculously below market level...i cant be mad at this...the part that sucks is that im assuming this is an across the board increase for all sporting events...where its gonna add up is not over an 8 game eagles season but all the phillies flyers and sixer games
free parking on packer ave for the win
the subway costs $2.60. win.
Quote from: MDS on August 17, 2007, 12:40:28 PM
the subway costs $2.60. win.
yeap. and you don't have to worry about pigs pulling you over for driving while drinking
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
its been ten bucks for like 20 years...which was ridiculously below market level...i cant be mad at this...the part that sucks is that im assuming this is an across the board increase for all sporting events...where its gonna add up is not over an 8 game eagles season but all the phillies flyers and sixer games
free parking on packer ave for the win
The Tampa Bay Devil Rays have free parking at Tropicana Field. That's how pathetic they are.
Tropicana Field is the shtein. I got 4th row seats in the LF bleachers, 4 for $60.
Florida sucks.
Bleacher seats for the Devil Rays at Red Sox on a Wednesday night were $70 each.
Massachusetts is to Florida as Heaven is to Hell
you're a poet
not only that...I farg like a champ too
i figured as much
omg
Eddie Drummond > Jeremy Bloom