For the teams whose seasons are over... :)
(I added the schools and positions for the people that aren't familiar with college football. * = junior or 3rd-yr sophomore)
ScoutsNotebook.com, 1/3
01 Raiders = Brady Quinn (Notre Dame QB)
02 Lions = Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma RB)*
03 Buccaneers = Calvin Johnson (Georgia Tech WR)*
04 Browns = Joe Thomas (Wisconsin OT)
05 Cardinals = Gaines Adams (Clemson DE)
06 taterskins = Alan Branch (Michigan DT)*
07 Vikings = Dwayne Jarrett (USC WR)*
08 Texans = Lawrence Timmons (Florida State OLB)*
09 Dolphins = LaRon Landry (LSU S)
10 Falcons = Reggie Nelson (Florida S)*
11 49ers = Patrick Willis (Mississippi MLB)
12 Bills = LaMarr Woodley (Michigan DE/LB)
13 Rams = Justin Blalock (Texas G)
14 Panthers = Rufus Alexander (Oklahoma OLB)
15 Steelers = Leon Hall (Michigan CB)
16 Packers = Marshawn Lynch (California RB)*
17 Jaguars = Daymeion Hughes (California CB)
18 Bengals = Glenn Dorsey (LSU DT)*
19 Titans = Ted Ginn, Jr (Ohio State WR)*
20 Giants = Antonio Pittman (Ohio State RB)*
21 Broncos = Antoine Cason (Arizona CB)*
22 Patriots (from SEA) = Michael Griffin (Texas SS)
23 Cowboys = Ryan Harris (Notre Dame OT)
24 Chiefs = Tank Tyler (NC State DT)
25 Saints = Fred Bennett (South Carolina CB)
26 Jets = Greg Olsen (Miami TE)*
27 EAGLES = Quentin Moses (Georgia DE)
28 Patriots = Dwayne Bowe (LSU WR)
29 Colts = Aaron Ross (Texas CB)
30 Ravens = Levi Brown (Penn State OT)
31 Bears = Ben Grubbs (Auburn G)
32 Chargers = Jeff Samardzija (Notre Dame WR)
Another lineman? No.
Get POZ
they need a safety
laron landry is so ill
yes, but it would take a miracle to get him.
even Reggie Nelson would be ok, but still probably too high.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2007, 08:45:49 AM
laron landry is so ill
Yeah he is the guy that I want them to get more than just about anybody in the draft. I know it is highely unlikely they will get him, but it would be awesome if they did.
they arent getting him and hes still ill
Patrick Willis = Trotter's replacement in '08.
Too bad they have no shot at him. And taking a LB in round 1 is blasphemous to Reid.
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2007, 12:40:41 AM
Another lineman? No.
Wrong. This team needs a DE. LB and S are also needs. RB mid-round.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 05, 2007, 08:26:28 AM
Get POZ
Hell no. At this point his reputation far exceeds his actual ability.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 05, 2007, 09:12:19 AM
Patrick Willis = Trotter's replacement in '08.
Too bad they have no shot at him. And taking a LB in round 1 is blasphemous to Reid.
So they'll pick him up in a year or two when he blows out a knee?
And here I thought mocking the draft is what the taterskins did ;)
Anyone think they'll take on a project QB on the first day?
I think LB, S, and DE are a must. I'll still hold out hope for a RB that weighs more that 215lbs. :paranoid
i dont think you take a project anything on the first day...if they take a qb first day then it should be their definite qb of the future
They should draft Zabransky. I'm on the Zabranksy bandwagon.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2007, 09:15:51 AM
Quote from: MDS on January 05, 2007, 12:40:41 AM
Another lineman? No.
Wrong. This team needs a DE. LB and S are also needs. RB mid-round.
We have drafted 150 DL in the first round. They all suck. Enough.
YOU suck
I know that. But I'm not going to be drafted in the first round, and neither should a lineman.
For the record, Quentin Moses also sucks.
Quote from: Dillen37 on January 05, 2007, 02:49:37 PM
For the record, Quentin Moses also sucks.
But he has 2 first names, and one is biblical
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 05, 2007, 01:49:47 PM
i dont think you take a project anything on the first day...if they take a qb first day then it should be their definite qb of the future
That is kind of what I meant. A guy like Tavaris Jackson from last year's draft. A guy that should
not start in his rookie year, or probably his second, but a guy who has serious physical ability but is rough around the edges. Since I know.....um....dick about college football, are there any guys like that coming out?
So, wait, Mikell and Considine aren't the answer?
The Eagles drafted a project on the first day last year
GOCONG!
Mikell has been looking all right, actually. But I don't think he should be solidifed as the opening day starter next year at SS. The Eagles definitely need to address that position in the draft.
If anything, Mikell, since he is not that big, looks maybe to be Dawkins heir apparent and the Eagles should then address the SS position in the draft.
Boise State baby!
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 05, 2007, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 05, 2007, 08:26:28 AM
Get POZ
Hell no. At this point his reputation far exceeds his actual ability.
While I totally disagree, I do agree that there is no need for him, he is strictly going to be a WLB in the NFL.
Um, no. He doesn't have the speed to be an OLB in the NFL.
He'll be an MLB and pulled on passing downs.
^^^^
what he said
^^^^
what he said he said.
Conner isnt coming out this year is he?
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 06, 2007, 03:59:38 PM
Um, no. He doesn't have the speed to be an OLB in the NFL.
He'll be an MLB and pulled on passing downs.
We will see, even if he is a MLB he will be a good one imo. He has a nose for the ball and can hit like a ton of bricks. He may not have the great measurable 40 time, but he certainly has the speed. The game against Tennessee should have been evidence enough of that.
As far as Connor comin out I have heard rumors that he was.
I'd love to get Conner as MLB
get Phil Yeboah-Kodie!
Quote from: MURP on January 06, 2007, 11:53:38 PM
get Phil Yeboah-Kodie!
Your all-time favorite PSU player.
JaMarcus Russell declared for the draft today and could be the #1 pick by Oakland...
Calvin Johnson entering draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2724240)
NFLDraftPro.com, 1/7
01 Raiders = JaMarcus Russell (LSU QB)*
02 Lions = Brady Quinn (Notre Dame QB)
03 Browns = Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma RB)*
04 Buccaneers = Calvin Johnson (Georgia Tech WR)*
05 Cardinals = Joe Thomas (Wisconsin OT)
06 taterskins = Alan Branch (Michigan DT)*
07 Vikings = Dwayne Jarrett (USC WR)*
08 Texans = Glenn Dorsey (LSU DT)*
09 Dolphins = Gaines Adams (Clemson DE)
10 Falcons = LaRon Landry (LSU S)
11 49ers = Leon Hall (Michigan CB)
12 Bills = Ted Ginn, Jr (Ohio State WR)*
13 Rams = Amobi Okoye (Louisville DT)
14 Panthers = Brian Brohm (Louisville QB)*
15 Steelers = Levi Brown (Penn State OT)
16 Packers = Marshawn Lynch (California RB)*
17 Jaguars = Patrick Willis (Mississippi MLB)
18 Bengals = Quinn Pitcock (Ohio State DT)
19 Titans = Dwayne Bowe (LSU WR)
20 Giants = Tony Ugoh (Arkansas OT)
21 Broncos = Darrelle Revis (Pittsburgh CB)*
22 Patriots (from SEA) = Sidney Rice (South Carolina WR)*
23 Cowboys = DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler (NC State DT)
24 Chiefs = Troy Smith (Ohio State QB)
25 Jets = LaMarr Woodley (Michigan DE/LB)
26 Saints = Daymeion Hughes (California CB)
27 EAGLES = Reggie Nelson (Florida S)* :yay
28 Patriots = Eric Wright (UNLV CB)*
29 Colts = Paul Posluszny (Penn State LB)
30 Ravens = Ryan Kalil (USC C)
31 Bears = Jeff Samardzija (Notre Dame WR)
32 Chargers = Buster Davis (Florida State LB)
This is the new site from Chris Steuber, who used to run DraftHype.com and was a guest over on the Eagles MB last April....
I don't think there's any chance of Nelson falling to us though....
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6336760
27. Eagles H.B. Blades LB Pittsburgh Senior 18th (-9) 18th / 27th
A three-time All Big East linebacker, the Eagles should take Bennie Blades' son if he's still on the board at 27. In his senior season at Pitt, Blades recorded a mind-boggling 147 tackles.
Barry Gardner had 174 tackles in 1997 and then had 175 in 1998. ha and ha.
Barry Gardner also was the only player on that D
which makes it even more ridiculous
michael bush coming out
That's kind of surprising. I thought he would stay one more year. I wonder if Petrino leaving had an effect on his decision? I'd like to see him in Eagle green. Kid is a beast. A more lean version of Jerome Bettis
He's a senior already, but he had the option to take a redshirt year since he only played one quarter.
Don't safeties almost always fall in the draft? I could see one of Landry or Nelson falling to us. Crazy things happen when they get to the combines.
Also, I hope the Birds look at Cincy's former MLB, Odell Thurman and see if he can come in as a future replacement for Trotter. Guy can play and I hope he has straightened himself out.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on January 09, 2007, 01:38:14 PM
Don't safeties almost always fall in the draft? I could see one of Landry or Nelson falling to us. Crazy things happen when they get to the combines.
Also, I hope the Birds look at Cincy's former MLB, Odell Thurman and see if he can come in as a future replacement for Trotter. Guy can play and I hope he has straightened himself out.
Zero shot on Thurman.
He's too much for the Bengals to handle. Do you see Reid taking his shtein? Negative.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on January 09, 2007, 01:38:14 PMDon't safeties almost always fall in the draft?
It depends. Polamalu and Ed Reed fell to the second half of the 1st round, while awesome Hall of Fame superstars like Roy Williams and Sean Taylor went top 10....
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 09, 2007, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on January 09, 2007, 01:38:14 PMDon't safeties almost always fall in the draft?
It depends. Polamalu and Ed Reed fell to the second half of the 1st round, while awesome Hall of Fame superstars like Roy Williams and Sean Taylor went top 10....
Greatest safteys of all time :-D
Landry does seem like he's middle of first material and depending on the Combine might fall to the late first. I just want a good Middle LB for the future along with a FS
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 09, 2007, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on January 09, 2007, 01:38:14 PMDon't safeties almost always fall in the draft?
It depends. Polamalu and Ed Reed fell to the second half of the 1st round, while awesome Hall of Fame superstars like Roy Williams and Sean Taylor went top 10....
That and Michael Huff and Donte Whitner went in the top 10 last year, Whitner was expected to be a late 1st early 2nd.
If they got either Landry or Nelson, it would be a very good draft on that alone.
Up to date underclassmen list...
Jamaal Anderson Arkansas DE Jr.
Jon Beason Miami LB Jr.
Alan Branch Michigan DT Jr.
Michael Bush Louisville RB Jr.
C.J. Gaddis Clemson CB Jr.
Chris Houston Arkansas CB Jr.
Dwayne Jarrett USC WR Jr.
Calvin Johnson Georgia Tech WR Jr.
Charles Johnson Georgia DE Jr.
Rory Johnson Mississippi LB Jr.
Marshawn Lynch California RB Jr.
Robert Meachem Tennessee WR Jr.
Zach Miller Arizona State TE Jr.
Greg Olsen Miami TE Jr.
Darrelle Revis Pittsburgh CB Jr.
Sidney Rice South Carolina WR Soph.
JaMarcus Russell LSU QB Jr.
Luke Smith-Anderson Idaho TE Jr.
Lawrence Timmons Florida St. TE Jr.
Danny Ware Georgia RB Jr.
Eric Wright UNLV DB Jr.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 09, 2007, 08:45:05 PM
If they got either Landry or Nelson, it would be a very good draft on that alone.
kinda like if they got Bunkley it would have been a very good draft on that alone. :paranoid
Adrian Peterson could declare as early as today...
NFL | A. Peterson expected to enter NFL Draft
Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:39:24 -0800
ESPNews reports Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson is expected to announce Thursday, Jan. 11, that he will enter the 2007 NFL Draft.
I have one word: Linebacker
Or is that two?
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 11, 2007, 02:23:18 PM
NFL | A. Peterson expected to enter NFL Draft
Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:39:24 -0800
ESPNews reports Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson is expected to announce Thursday, Jan. 11, that he will enter the 2007 NFL Draft.
He will spend no less than 40% of his time in the NFL on the injury report. 80% if he plays for the Ravens or Patriots.
Notre Dame RB Darius Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2727858)
walker is really really slow and has no football future
ESPN RADIO: Perterson still undecided despite reports to the contrary.
I still think he is entering the draft though.
Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio State WR) declared
Andre Caldwell (Florida WR) goes back for his senior year.
Kipers Draft Board from ESPN Insider..
*1. Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech (6-4, 225) | previous: UR
He's not only a tremendous athlete, but he's also a hard worker and very team oriented.
2. Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin (6-6½, 313) | previous: Same
Huge, quick and athletic with a long wingspan.
3. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame (6-3½, 225) | previous: 1
Poised, smart and at his best in pressure situations. Quinn did throw two interceptions in Sugar Bowl after throwing just one INT in his previous eight games.
*4. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU (6-6, 260) | previous: UR
Big, strong signal caller with a powerful arm. Decision-making improved significantly this season.
*5. Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas (6-5, 270) | previous: UR
Gifted athlete, coming off an exceptional 2006 campaign. A complete player, equally as solid versus the run as he is as a pass rusher.
*6. Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma (6-1½, 218) | previous: UR
Talented RB with an excellent burst to the outside for a back his size. The concern is durability.
*7. Alan Branch, DT, Michigan (6-5½, 328) | previous: UR
Huge and athletic, Branch is a true space-eater along the interior. Once his technique improves, watch out!
*8. Marshawn Lynch, RB, California (5-11, 224) | previous: UR
Complete big back, right on the heels of Adrian Peterson when it comes to who will be the top RB in the draft.
9. Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson (6-4½, 260) | previous: 4
Flashes dominating ability with his athleticism and quickness. Adams leads the Tigers with 10½ sacks and 15½ tackles for loss.
10. Leon Hall, CB, Michigan (5-11, 193) | previous: 3
Tough customer who also shows very good anticipation and awareness in coverage. Hall leads the Wolverines with three interceptions.
11. LaRon Landry, DB, LSU (6-1½, 205) | previous: 6
Four-year starter who has proven to be Mr. Reliable throughout his career. Landry lead LSU with 42 solo tackles.
12. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville (6-1½, 298) | previous: 5
A four-year veteran, and he is only 19 years old. Okoye is quick and explosive and goes all-out on every play. He is not only good at eating up space but also gets good penetration into the backfield. He's second on the Cardinals in both sacks and tackles for loss.
13. Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame (6-4½, 215) | previous: 10
Super hands and concentration with outstanding speed-to-size ratio. He caught a touchdown pass in the final five games of the season.
*14. Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC (6-4, 210) | previous: UR
Has the size and natural pass receiving skills to create mismatches against smaller CB's. Also has better quickness out of his break than people give him credit for.
*15. Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee (6-2½, 210) | previous: UR
Came through with a number of highlight film type "wow" plays this season. If he runs well at the Combine, Meachem could elevate his draft position in the weeks leading up to the draft.
16. Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas (6-5, 308) | previous: 9
Ugoh's stock has been rising all year to the point where he's one of the more intriguing senior prospects in the nation.
*17. Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia (6-2, 280) | previous: UR
Shows natural pass rush skills and his workout numbers should be eye catching.
18. Levi Brown, OT, Penn St. (6-4½, 325) | previous: 15
Steady and reliable at protecting the quarterback's blind side.
*19. Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina (6-3, 200) | previous: Angular wide-out with a nice burst out of his break and above average hands. The key for Rice will be how well he runs at the combine workout.
20. Ryan Kalil, C, USC (6-2½, 292) | previous: 12
His performance during the latter stages of his career has been that of a first- or second-round draft choice.
*21. Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida St. (6-2¼, 233) | previous: UR
Moves right to the top of a very subpar LB'ing corps overall, particularly from the senior class. His production and consistency from game to game are what jumps out at you with Timmons.
22. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska (6-6, 320) | previous: 8
You just don't see many defensive ends carrying 300 pounds who can move as well as Carriker.
23. Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU (6-2, 217) | previous: 13
Big and productive, Bowe runs excellent routes and has the toughness to catch the ball in traffic.
24. Marshal Yanda, OT, Iowa (6-4, 300) | previous: UR
Well coached with outstanding technique, Yanda has been enjoying a steady rise up the draft board. Also will provide a great deal of versatility at the pro level.
24. Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue (6-3¼, 273) | previous: 18
He has become a much more effective pass-rusher this season for the Boilermakers. The key at the next level will be his athleticism and versatility, because I project he would be an ideal outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.
*-denotes underclassman
only 25 picks? and two 24s?
So, there's a 300 pound 19 year old, fourth year senior coming out of Louisville? Jesus I hate people with talent.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 12, 2007, 01:56:34 PM
So, there's a 300 pound 19 year old, fourth year senior coming out of Louisville? Jesus I hate people with talent.
His talent is that he's better than you by a decade and about 175 lbs?
His talent is that he was smart enough (or hard working enough) to get into college at the age of 15 and able to enter the workforce and make money at the age of 19/20. The fact that he's a physical freak is just salt in the wound.
I was a svelte 6'1", 155lbs at age 19. 11 years and 30 lbs later... I'm jealous as hell.
Pick him up :evil
I wonder if he is any relation to Christian Okoye?
Ed?
Just noticed that Kiper gave no love to UGA DE Quentin Moses.
He's more athletic than Charles Johnson (#17)... although I always thought he was a little too light (250 lbs) to cut it in the pros unless someone projects him as a tweener/LB in a 3-4.
Dan Connor is Staying at PSU.
That list is pretty impressive, this should be a solid draft. Moses isn't on the list because he had a terrible year.
Kiper was on ESPN radio this morning and said that Troy Smith is now an early day two pick because of Monday night's debacle. If that is the case I would love to see the Eagles scoop him up, though I doubt they draft a QB if Garcia comes back.
Troy Smith is more Joe Hamilton than Donovan McNabb.
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 12, 2007, 05:13:12 PM
Just noticed that Kiper gave no love to UGA DE Quentin Moses.
He's more athletic than Charles Johnson (#17)... although I always thought he was a little too light (250 lbs) to cut it in the pros unless someone projects him as a tweener/LB in a 3-4.
Moses was a borderline top 10 pick going into the year but has really sucked the big one. Awful year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 13, 2007, 08:41:07 AM
Troy Smith is more Joe Hamilton than Donovan McNabb.
You could be right, but to me he is definatley worth a shot. QB's with his type of accuracy are hard to find. I just can't see why he would drop so far considering that, his line didn't block and his receivers didn't get open. Not to mention the fact that he didn't have a running game either. The best comparison I've heard of Smith was Drew Brees, they are very similar players with the exception of Smith's running ability.
Quote from: Dillen37 on January 13, 2007, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 12, 2007, 05:13:12 PM
Just noticed that Kiper gave no love to UGA DE Quentin Moses.
He's more athletic than Charles Johnson (#17)... although I always thought he was a little too light (250 lbs) to cut it in the pros unless someone projects him as a tweener/LB in a 3-4.
Moses was a borderline top 10 pick going into the year but has really sucked the big one. Awful year.
Yeah, I know he had a crap year... but everyone was swinging from the nuts just a few months ago and now it's just funny to see him not even mentioned at all.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 12, 2007, 04:11:12 PM
I wonder if he is any relation to Christian Okoye?
Ed?
Louisville bio (http://uoflsports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/okoye_amobi00.html)
Doesn't say anything about Christian, but he's from Nigeria, so it's possible...
Okoye is probably like Smith in Nigeria.
I am pretty sure that he is Christian's son though.
*EDIT: His son plays for Tulane.
Quote from: NGM on January 13, 2007, 06:25:44 PM
Okoye is probably like Smith in Nigeria.
I am pretty sure that he is Christian's son though.
*EDIT: His son plays for Tulane.
From that Louisville bio:
QuotePersonal Profile: Son of Augustine and Edna Okoye... born 6/10/87... Psychology major.
Not Christian's son, but that doesn't preclude another relation.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 13, 2007, 12:56:50 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 13, 2007, 08:41:07 AM
Troy Smith is more Joe Hamilton than Donovan McNabb.
You could be right, but to me he is definatley worth a shot. QB's with his type of accuracy are hard to find. I just can't see why he would drop so far considering that, his line didn't block and his receivers didn't get open. Not to mention the fact that he didn't have a running game either. The best comparison I've heard of Smith was Drew Brees, they are very similar players with the exception of Smith's running ability.
yeah I dont get it either. OSU's offensive line was so overmatched Smith never had a chance.
The Eagles moved up from 27 to 26 tonight. woo. :-\
Gooooooooo team.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 13, 2007, 11:50:23 PM
The Eagles moved up from 27 to 26 tonight. woo. :-\
They'll trade up for an OT.
Unless someone falls to them, I think the first pick will be a DB...
I hope Landry has the worst combine ever.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
I hope Landry has the worst combine ever.
I was thinking the same thing... either that or somebody finds a nickel bag in his pocket.
I can easily plant one on him :paranoid
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
I can easily plant one on him :paranoid
I knew you still wore that Al Harris jersey for a reason.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 14, 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
I can easily plant one on him :paranoid
I knew you still wore that Al Harris jersey for a reason.
Yeah, but seriously Die Hard. Do it.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
I can easily plant one on him :paranoid
Do your duty, bro... do your duty.
Or I can send Darrell Crutchfeld or Terrance Carroll to do the deed for me :D
The Chargers clinched #30.
DraftDaddy:
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01. Oakland Raiders - WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
Al Davis wants to take the best available athlete, with a 45 inch vertical leap, Johnson fits that bill.
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02. Detroit Lions - OT Joe Thomas, Wisconsin
Whoever the Lions QB of the future may be, the program needs a premium left tackle.
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03.* Cleveland Browns - QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
Local boy makes good, Quinn to the Browns would make the Dawg Pound go woof.
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04.* Tampa Bay - QB Jamarcus Russell, L.S.U.
Gruden needs to find a quarterback to run his offense and provide that missing spark in the huddle.
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05. Arizona - DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas
The Cardinals' pass rush needs to get better, Anderson is an elite rusher.
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06. Washington taterskins - DE Gaines Adams, Clemson
The taterskins cash in on their only first round pick with another elite rusher in Adams.
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07. Minnesota Vikings - DB Laron Landry Louisiana State
Trade down for WR perhaps, but if not their safety situation looks bleak.
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08. Houston Texans - RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
The Texans get another chance to draft a franchise back, will they take it?
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09. Miami Dolphins - QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
Brennan may opt out of draft, at which point we will opt him out of our mock draft.
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10. Atlanta Falcons - DB Reggie Nelson, Florida
The weakness of the Falcons defense is the deep middle, Nelson has the range to ballhawk.
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11. San Fran 49ers - DE Charles Johnson, Georgia
As the 49ers continue to build their defense, players like Johnson can help them take the next step.
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12. Buffalo Bills - CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh
The Bills will need protection if Nate Clements leaves as a free agent.
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13. St. Louis Rams - DT Alan Branch, Michigan
The Rams, thankfully, can end the Jimmy Kennedy experiment with the addition of Branch.
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14. Carolina Panthers - WR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State
Explosive player can give opposing defenses more to worry about then Steve Smith.
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15. Pittsburgh Steelers - OT Levi Brown, Penn State
Former taterskins great Russ Grimm gets an elite OT for his offense.
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16. Green Bay - RB Marshawn Lynch, California
Green is a great player but has had nine hard years in the league and his production has declined.
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17. Jacksonville Jaguars - LB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State
A nasty defense keeps getting nastier as Timmons upgrades the outside linebacking spot.
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18. Cincinatti Bengals - DT Amobi Okoye, Louisville
Hard working Okoye projects as a poor man's Sam Adams, once he fills out his 19 year old frame.
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19. Tennessee Titans - WR Dwayne Bowe, Louisiana State
Pro-ready Bowe will provide Young with options should Drew Bennett test the waters of free agency.
20. N.Y. Giants - LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State
The Giants nead players who can look into the huddle and hold people accountable when things aren't going right.
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21. Denver Broncos - CB Chris Houston, Arkansas
Broncos need a physical bump and run cornerback, Houston could leap into the first round with a fast time.
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22. Dallas Cowboys - DE Quentin Moses, Georgia
The Boys could take Moses and stand him up at linebacker. Still elite lateral quickness, despite senior campaign.
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23. Kansas City Chiefs - OT Justin Blalock, Texas
The Chiefs are desperate for OT help and aren't going to get it in free agency.
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24. New England Patriots (VIA Sea) - CB Leon Hall, Michigan
Leon Hall is a Ty Law clone and replaces Asante Samuel who will likely find a big pay day elsewhere.
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25. N.Y. Jets - DE Adam Carriker, Nebraska
Workouts could push Carriker higher but there aren't that many 3-4 teams who need to upgrade DE.
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26. Philadelphia Eagles - LB Patrick Willis, Mississippi
Trotter is a honorable warrior but will not be around forever. Willis could be tabbed as heir to the Eagles MLB position.
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XX. Baltimore Ravens - LB Lamarr Woodley, Michigan
Similar to FA DE Adalius Thomas, Woodley is a versatile player who flat out makes plays.
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XX. San Diego Chargers - WR Dwayne Jarrett, Southern Cal
The playoff game will probably leave the Chargers seriously considering upgrade for the WR position.
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XX. Indianapolis Colts, - DT Justin Harrell, Tennessee
Prior to injury was the toughest and best of the senior DT prospects. Watch for a rebound.
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XX. Chicago Bears - WR Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame
Best case for the Shark, could he pursue a two sport dream in Chi town?
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XX. New Orleans Saints - TE Zach Miller, Arizona State
Miller has shades of Todd Heap and makes a scary Saints offense even scarier.
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XX. New England Patriots - RB Brian Leonard, Rutgers
Leonard replaces Dillon as short yardage back, can also play Heath Evans' H-Back role.
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Willis' Profile:
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Strengths:
A very good athlete...Has excellent instincts...Good speed and quickness with the range to go sideline-to-sideline...A big hitter and reliable tackler...Is strong and powerful...Was extremely productive...Versatile and could conceivably play either inside or outside...Good pass rusher on blitzes...Tough guy who will do whatever it takes to get on the field...Hard worker and a leader with top-notch intangibles.
Weaknesses:
Moves well and is adequate in coverage but nothing special and he can still stand to improve in that area...Needs to bulk up and get a little bigger...Plays too high at times...Gets overwhelmed by massive blockers...Has some durability concerns.
Notes:
Won the Butkus award as a senior...17-year-old brother, Detris, drowned in July of 2006...Has overcome a lot in his life to get where he is...Is heavily involved in community service...Is a great person and player who will be an asset to a team both on and off the field...Is simply one of the best linebackers available this year
I've also seen a lot of mocks that have the Birds taking Samardzija, but only if Stallworth isn't resigned. I'll be farging pissed if Donte walks, and probably more so if the Birds try to replace him with a rookie. [igy] Especially a white rookie[/igy]
as of this early date id be real happy with willis...and he be my training camp opening day starter....trotter is done
Patrick Willis would be an outstanding pick. However, we all know that AR and Co are not going to draft a LB in the 1st round.
Maybe they'll draft him, but make him a FB. With hilarious results.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 17, 2007, 12:51:08 PM
Patrick Willis would be an outstanding pick. However, we all know that AR and Co are not going to draft a LB in the 1st round.
Probably true, but if it isn't a LB, it sure as hell better be on a safety. I can't think of anything more of pressing need than a LB or safety spot.
According to this mock, Lamar Woodley would still be on the board, he would be a great pick for this team. A guy that could play SAM that has size and can rush the passer, what a novel idea.
I doubt they'll admit the Gocong mistake just yet.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 17, 2007, 01:05:42 PM
I doubt they'll admit the Gocong mistake just yet.
They could just say they are adding depth.
I doubt they'll admit the Gocong mistake just yet.
yep....hell they started mccoy and gocong has to be better than him right?...therefore gocong starts
would anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PM
I doubt they'll admit the Gocong mistake just yet.
yep....hell they started mccoy and gocong has to be better than him right?...therefore gocong starts
would anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
Not if they keep Stallworth.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PMwould anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
If they keep Stallworth and do something smart about the RB corps (dump Reno and Moats, sign someone like Duckett)...then no, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
No problem that is, except for the fact that the previous drafts were so poor that it was necessary..
Quote from: Diomedes on January 17, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PMwould anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
If they keep Stallworth and do something smart about the RB corps (dump Reno and Moats, sign someone like Duckett)...then no, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
No problem that is, except for the fact that the previous drafts were so poor that it was necessary..
yup
Quote from: NGM on January 17, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PM
I doubt they'll admit the Gocong mistake just yet.
yep....hell they started mccoy and gocong has to be better than him right?...therefore gocong starts
would anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
Not if they keep Stallworth.
If they sign Stallworth and bring in a legit change of pace back, they could draft all defensive players for the next two drafts and I'd be happy.
Could someone tell me what Willis' size is? The weaknesses say he need to bulk up....I'm sick of undersized SAM's and MLB's.
Size is probably his only issue, he is 230.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 17, 2007, 03:48:05 PM
Size is probably his only issue, he is 230.
Blah...230 and not even that good in pass coverage?
I think the MLB in this defense needs to be atleast 245....255 preferably. THe teams bad enough against the run as it is, no use putting another undersized guy out there.
Right, because players like Jonathan Vilma suck hard. Also, players never gain any muscle weight after college.
Watch GAME TAPE MUNSON. The same shtein was said about RayRay coming out of the U
yeah i was just about to bring up ray ray...willis reminds me of a poor mans lewis
lol @ munson looking at a players weight and automatically dismissing him
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 17, 2007, 04:41:30 PM
Watch GAME TAPE MUNSON. The same shtein was said about RayRay coming out of the U
Ray was really small coming out of college, he obviously isn't anymore.
Hey if he has the tools to be a Ray, then I'm all for it....Hell, Gaither is underszied a bit but he has a few physical tools that have allowed him not to get blown up by blockers, shed blocks, and even make some plays. If this Willis guy has those types of abilities that would make his size a non-factor then please draft him. Especially if he can put on muscle weight.
I'm just sick of undersized LB's who are no good against the run (edit) and get blown up by blockers.
linebacker size is way overrated
the biggest linebacker is taking an L vs the smallest lineman no matter how you look at it
you need big d lineman far more than you need big linebackers
in the league today linebackers need to be able to read react with quickness and then have the burst to get to a hole or spot
mike singletary was the definition of that and showed that you didnt need big bulky mlb's anymore
Woodley is a stud. I don't think he'll be there.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
linebacker size is way overrated
the biggest linebacker is taking an L vs the smallest lineman no matter how you look at it
you need big d lineman far more than you need big linebackers
in the league today linebackers need to be able to read react with quickness and then have the burst to get to a hole or spot
mike singletary was the definition of that and showed that you didnt need big bulky mlb's anymore
This is all very true.
Now look at the Eagles DT's.
We need a big MLB.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
linebacker size is way overrated
the biggest linebacker is taking an L vs the smallest lineman no matter how you look at it
you need big d lineman far more than you need big linebackers
in the league today linebackers need to be able to read react with quickness and then have the burst to get to a hole or spot
mike singletary was the definition of that and showed that you didnt need big bulky mlb's anymore
Unfortunately, the Eagles also have small DLs that get destroyed at the point of attack. I wish they could just have one fat guy there in the middle. They have never really had that since Reid and Co have been here. Hollis was the closest thing and he wasn't always as big as he was this year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PM
would anyone have a problem if the eagles drafted all defensive players?
seeing the way they draft defense? yes.
they need a few defensive FA
NFLDraftCountdown.com, 1/18
01 RAIDERS = Russell
02 LIONS = Joe Thomas
03 BROWNS = Quinn
04 BUCCANEERS = Calvin Johnson
05 CARDINALS = Alan Branch
06 taterskinS = Jamaal Anderson
07 VIKINGS = Gaines Adams
08 TEXAS = Peterson
09 DOLPHINS = Amobi Okoye
10 FALCONS = Leon Hall
11 49ERS = Ginn Jr
12 BILLS = Darrelle Revis
13 RAMS = Lawrence Timmons
14 PANTHERS = Landry
15 STEELERS = Marshawn Lynch
16 PACKERS = Dwayne Jarrett
17 JAGUARS = Reggie Nelson
18 BENGALS = Tank Tyler
19 TITANS = Quentin Moses
20 GIANTS = Daymeion Hughes
21 BRONCOS = Adam Carriker
22 COWBOYS = Justin Blalock
23 CHIEFS = Levi Brown
24 PATRIOTS (from SEA) = Marcus McCauley
25 JETS = Jarvis Moss
26 EAGLES = Michael Griffin
27 SAINTS = Poz
28 PATRIOTS = Dwayne Bowe
29 RAVENS = Ben Grubbs
30 CHARGERS = Sidney Rice
31 COLTS = Willis
32 BEARS = Arron Sears
He has Drew Stanton (Michigan State QB) in round 2. uh....no.....
Griffin would make me happy. It'll all come down to the combine I think. Nelson, Landry and Griffin are pretty talented and have been production guys.
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Michael Griffin S 6' 205 Texas
By: Robert Davis
Very few defensive backs have been as productive as Michael Griffin. As a freshman, he had 65 tackles, five for loss, and two sacks. As a sophomore, Griffin was in on 49 tackles, two for loss, a sack, and an interception. None of that was an indication of what he would do as a junior though. Griffin earned 1st Team Big 12 honors after finishing with 124 tackles, four for loss, three interceptions, and four blocked punts. He had another fantastic season as a senior, ending with 116 tackles, four for loss, with one sack and four interceptions.
Michael Griffin is as intelligent and aggressive as any safety in this draft. He quickly diagnoses the play and gets to the action whether it is a run or pass. He flies toward the action, and lays players out as if he were much bigger. In pass coverage, he has the athleticism to cover and ball skills to make plays on the ball. Griffin is also a fantastic special teamer. He possesses the knack for blocking punts, as he has blocked six in his career.
There is not anything physically that stands out about Griffin. His size is only average by NFL standards, and he does not posses great speed. That is about it with Griffin, as he is a complete football player.
In a safety class that is shaping up to be very talented at the top, Griffin has solidified himself amongst the elite. He is arguably the top safety in the draft, stacking up with Landry and Nelson. He will have an impact from the start, and could be a pro bowler someday.
Drew Stanton? In round 2?
Awful.
QuoteHe is arguably the top safety in the draft, stacking up with Landry and Nelson.
No.
I would be very happy if they landed Michael Griffin in the first round. Of course I would rather have Landry, but Griffin would be a nice pick too.
I'd be happy with it too. My #1 target is Patrick Willis, but chances are Griffin wil be the best available defensive player at #26.
Does it really matter who they select? Whoever the lucky player is, he will be "redshirted" until the 2008 season.
It matters, eventually.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6385348
Quote from: SunMo on January 19, 2007, 02:14:30 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6385348
A serviceable pitcher makes no less than $5m/year. A star WR makes no more than $6m-$7m.
What a money-grubbing bastich!
He should have stayed in knowing that the Patriots were probably going to draft him and somehow make him a superstar receiver. That and he'll got lots of trophies. He's not getting that with the Cubs.
Take a flier on him in a later round and retain his rights until he flames out in baseball (which he will).
he sucks
at both sports
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 19, 2007, 06:02:42 PM
he sucks
at both sports
Yeah, we know he sucks at Football he is white. ::)
You obviously haven't watched too much of him over the last two years. I am not saying he would be a good pro WR, because they are pretty much impossible to project. However, he was a stud on the college gridiron.
However, he was a stud on the college gridiron.
so was andre ware
Gino. Toretta.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 19, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
Take a flier on him in a later round and retain his rights until he flames out in baseball (which he will).
You only retain the rights for a year. He won't give up baseball that quickly so it's useless.
Kiper's first mock:
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There are 16 underclassmen among my projections for the first 32 picks of the 2007 NFL draft, including two of the top three. LSU junior quarterback JaMarcuss Russell gets the nod as the first overall pick, and North Carolina State defensive tackle Tank Tyler rounds out my first-round projections as the No. 32 overall selection to Indianapolis.
1. Oakland Raiders: *JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2. Detroit Lions: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: *Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
4. Cleveland Browns: Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
5. Arizona Cardinals: *Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington taterskins: *Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota Vikings: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston Texans: *Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami Dolphins: *Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, Ohio St.
10. Atlanta Falcons: LaRon Landry, S, LSU
11. San Francisco 49ers: *Reggie Nelson, DB, Florida
12. Buffalo Bills: Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
13. St. Louis Rams: *Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
14. Carolina Panthers: Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: *Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida
16. Green Bay Packers: *Marshawn Lynch, RB, California
17. Jacksonville Jaguars: *Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
18. Cincinnati Bengals: Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
19. Tennessee Titans: *Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
20. New York Giants: *Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida St.
21. Denver Broncos: Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
22. Dallas Cowboys: *Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
23. Kansas City Chiefs: Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas
24. New England Patriots (from Seattle): *Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
25. New York Jets: Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
27. New Orleans Saints: Daymeion Hughes, CB, California
28. New England Patriots: *Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio St.
29. Baltimore Ravens: Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue
30. San Diego Chargers: Patrick Willis, LB, Mississippi
31. Chicago Bears: *Greg Olsen, TE, Miami (Fla)
32. Indianapolis Colts: Tank Tyler, DT, NC St.
I like Ross, but according to this mock, the Birds would be passing on his team mate Michael Griffin. This would make me very angry.
Kiper has no idea who anyone will pick. Mike Mayock is the guru.
Quote from: Quasimoto on January 25, 2007, 01:24:47 PM
Kiper has no idea who anyone will pick. Mike Mayock is the guru with a lisp.
Mike Mayock is the guru with the cleft pallet a lisp
you're obsessed with cleft pallets
shay annoy me like crayshee
LOL
Don Banks, CNNSI.com, 1/26
01 Raiders = JaMarcus Russell
02 Lions = Brady Quinn
03 Buccaneers = Calvin Johnson
04 Browns = Joe Thomas
05 Cardinals = Gaines Adams
06 taterskins = Jamaal Anderson
07 Vikings = Ted Ginn Jr.
08 Texans = Adrian Peterson
09 Dolphins = Alan Branch
10 Falcons = Dwayne Jarrett
11 49ers = Reggie Nelson
12 Bills = Leon Hall
13 Rams = Amobi Okoye
14 Panthers = Adam Carriker
15 Steelers = Jarvis Moss
16 Packers = Marshawn Lynch
17 Jaguars = Charles Johnson
18 Bengals = Marcus McCauley
19 Titans = Robert Meachem
20 Giants = LaRon Landry
21 Broncos = Daymeion Hughes
22 Cowboys = Levi Brown
23 Chiefs = Sidney Rice
24 Patriots (from SEA) = Dwayne Bowe
25 Jets = Tank Tyler
26 EAGLES = Lawrence Timmons (Florida State LB)
27 Saints = Darrelle Revis
28 Patriots = Patrick Willis
29 Ravens = Stewart Bradley
30 Chargers = Michael Griffin
31 Colts = Paul Posluszny
32 Bears = Greg Olsen
Noles > Life. :D
The Senior Bowl is on NFL Network today at 4PM if anyone's interested...
Great Blue North Report (1/19 mock) = Paul Posluszny
Draft King (1/25 mock) = Ted Ginn, Jr.
Draft Ace (1/27 mock) = Robert Meachem
Consensus Draft Services (1/28 mock) = Daymeion Hughes
Meacham is a guy that I really think could develop into a stud. Ginn probably will be off the board at that point, but you never know. He seems like he is really going to be a boom or bust pick.
I forgot to watch the Senior Bowl. Did anyone impress? Other than that freak at DT from Louisville
Tony Hunt was very good. Leonard played great as FB/ Short yardage RB. Patrick Willis moved into the top 15 imo.
Sucks. It would be nice to have Willis. But after reading that article that we haven't picked an LB in decades in the 1st round then it was obvious he wouldnt be here regardless
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 29, 2007, 08:54:10 AM
Tony Hunt was very good. Leonard played great as FB/ Short yardage RB. Patrick Willis moved into the top 15 imo.
Leonard blocking for Hunt gives me a decent half a stock.
Tony Hunt=Duce Staley
I would be nice to see the Eagles pick him up if he falls to the third round.
hunt reminds me a lot of eddie george
hes the kind of guy who to be successful in this league is going to need a ton of carries and a great line...he isnt going to make many big plays and needs help from the people around him...if nothing else he would be valuable in short yardage and goal line situations...however on the right team and in the right offense he could be a pro bowl type player
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 29, 2007, 10:02:03 AM
Leonard blocking for Westbrook would give me a football boner.
Me too.
Let's recap:
Backfield of Leonard & Westbrook = boner
Backfield of Leonard & Tony Hunt = semi
Backfield of Tapeh & Buckhalter = kill me
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 29, 2007, 01:50:20 PM
hunt reminds me a lot of eddie george
hes the kind of guy who to be successful in this league is going to need a ton of carries and a great line...he isnt going to make many big plays and needs help from the people around him...if nothing else he would be valuable in short yardage and goal line situations...however on the right team and in the right offense he could be a pro bowl type player
I don't think he does need a great line, PSUs line couldn't run block for shtein this year. Granted it is college but...
Also I don't think he runs quite as high as Eddie did. Either way I think he will be a solid pro nothing more, unless like you said he gets in the right system. Denver would be a great fit for him.
I think Pittsburgh would be a great fit for Hunt
I don't think he does need a great line, PSUs line couldn't run block for shtein this year
nfl defenses > big ten defenses
he isnt going to be running toss sweeps in the nfl...nor will he be running over people like he did in college...on top of that he doesnt have the athletic ability to out run or make people miss in the nfl...but he has greaty vision and can hit a hole as good as any running back ive seen in collegte...which is why imo he will need a very good run blocking line and a coach who is committed to running the ball for him to be succesuful in the league...
imo he could be anywhere from curtis enis to eddie george depending on how the chips fall
Enis had a previously-undiagnosed degenerative knee condition, so if Hunt has one of those... yeah, he's farged.
stock up/down from the senior bowl....
Stock Up
1. Dwayne Bowe, WR, L.S.U.
Put on a show and will go ahead of some more highly-touted underclassmen.
2. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
19-year-old with huge potential made a terrific impression on and off the field.
3. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
Versatile prospect had an outstanding week and looked good inside at tackle.
4. Ryan Kalil, C, USC
Doesn't have great size but is an excellent technician and maybe a 1st rounder.
5. David Irons, CB, Auburn
Man cover guy who may have helped himself more than anyone else this week.
6. Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame
Was really impressive at the weigh-in and he looked quick and athletic all week.
7. Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn
Had a nice week and may have passed Justin Blalock as the top guard prospect.
8. Levi Brown, OT, Penn St.
Worked hard, got better with every practice and he may now be a Top 15 pick.
9. Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami (FL)
Seemingly all over the field this week and made a number of eye-catching plays.
10. James Marten, OT, Boston College
Tough, nasty player who doesn't have the physical tools but gets the job done.
11. Tony Hunt, RB, Penn St.
Was pretty solid, albeit not special, in practice but then stood out in the ame.
12. Stewart Bradley, OLB, Nebraska
Has excellent size and may have emerged as the top SAM linebacker prospect.
13. Ryan McBean, DT, Oklahoma St.
Raw but teams really like this guy and he might be a perfect fit at end in a 3-4.
14. Scott Chandler, TE, Iowa
In a real weak crop of senior tight ends this guy just may be the best out there.
15. Aaron Rouse, S, Virginia Tech
Rare physical specimen who struggled early but was really able to bounce back.
16. Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama
Short yardage guy and pass catcher who cemented himself as the #2 fullback.
17. Brandon Myles, WR, West Virginia
Didn't get a lot of chances in college but was one of the best wideouts in Mobile.
18. Eric Weddle, S, Utah
Versatile gamer and playmaker that coaches love and is always around the ball.
19. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
After a strong senior season he continued his ascent up draft boards this week.
20. Aundrae Allison, WR, East Carolina
Had a very solid week and capped it all off with a touchdown catch in the game.
21. Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware
The Duke transfer had no problem fitting in after being added to the roster late.
22. Tanard Jackson, CB, Syracuse
Was very consistent all week and may now be the top zone cover guy available.
23. Antonio Johnson, DT, Mississippi St.
An athletic big guy who was getting a lot of attention from teams that run a 3-4.
24. Mason Crosby, K, Colorado
Was able to convert from beyond 50 yards and he certainly lived up to the hype.
25. Thomas Clayton, RB, Kansas St.
Late injury replacement who came in and was instantly one of the best in town.
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Stock Down
1. Garrett Wolfe, RB, Northern Illinois
Got hurt early in the week and was not able to show off his return abilities.
2. Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame
His frame looks maxed out and he was then routinely beaten all week long.
3. Chase Pittman, DE, L.S.U.
Did nothing to stand out and looked like just another guy for the most part.
4. LaMarr Woodley, DE, Michigan
Really struggled early on and then had to drop out of the game with an injury.
5. Clark Harris, TE, Rutgers
Looked slow and unathletic before having to leave town due to a toe injury.
6. Chris Leak, QB, Florida
The worst signal caller at the game and nothing more than a backup at best.
7. Josh Gattis, S, Wake Forest
Really struggled in coverage and might be just an in-the-box type in the NFL.
8. Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno St.
After struggling at times as a senior that just continued this week in Mobile.
9. Dan Mozes, C, West Virginia
Highly-decorated college player who lacks the physical tools for the next level.
10. Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas
Had a great opportunity to move way up but he did not take advantage of it.
Bowe looked good in the practices I saw. Forgot to watch the game. Kiper and Mayock both say he's a typical WCO type of guy.
Its good to see Ben Patrick getting some love. He was impressive this year for Delaware.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-mockdraft020807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
26. Philadelphia Eagles – LaRon Landry, safety, LSU. With safety Michael Lewis set to move via free agency, the Eagles will look to find a replacement. Landry could be the one who gets paired with All-Pro defender Brian Dawkins the next few years.
holla
Yahoo's latest Mock Draft. Yes please.
1. Oakland Raiders – JaMarcus Russell, quarterback, LSU.
2. Detroit Lions – Jamaal Anderson, defensive lineman, Arkansas.
(A coin flip at the NFL combine will decide the No. 3 and No. 4 choices between Cleveland and Tampa Bay.)
3/4. Cleveland Browns – Alan Branch, defensive lineman, Michigan.
3/4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Calvin Johnson, wide receiver, Georgia Tech.
5. Arizona Cardinals – Joe Thomas, offensive tackle, Wisconsin.
6. Washington taterskins – Gaines Adams, defensive end, Clemson.
7. Minnesota Vikings – Reggie Nelson, defensive back, Florida.
8. Houston Texans – Marshawn Lynch, running back, California.
9. Miami Dolphins – Brady Quinn, quarterback, Notre Dame..
10. Atlanta Falcons – Ted Ginn Jr., wide receiver/return man, Ohio State.
11. San Francisco 49ers – Amobi Okoye, defensive tackle, Louisville.
12. Buffalo Bills – Aaron Ross, cornerback, Texas.
13. St. Louis Rams – Charles Johnson, defensive end, Georgia.
14. Carolina Panthers – Lawrence Timmons, outside linebacker, Florida State.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers – Leon Hall, cornerback, Michigan.
16. Green Bay Packers – Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma.
17. Jacksonville Jaguars – Adam Carriker, defensive lineman, Nebraska.
18. Cincinnati Bengals – Darrelle Revis, cornerback, Pittsburgh.
19. Tennessee Titans – Robert Meachem, wide receiver, Tennessee.
20. New York Giants – DeMarcus Tyler, defensive tackle, North Carolina State.
21. Denver Broncos – Jarvis Moss, defensive end, Florida.
22. Dallas Cowboys – Brandon Meriweather, safety, Miami.
23. Kansas City Chiefs – Tony Ugoh, offensive tackle, Arkansas.
24. New England Patriots – Jay Moore, defensive end, Nebraska.
25. New York Jets – Zach Miller, tight end, Arizona State.
26. Philadelphia Eagles – LaRon Landry, safety, LSU. With safety Michael Lewis set to move via free agency, the Eagles will look to find a replacement. Landry could be the one who gets paired with All-Pro defender Brian Dawkins the next few years.
27. New Orleans Saints – Anthony Spencer, defensive end/outside linebacker, Purdue.
28. New England Patriots – Daymeion Hughes, CB, California
29. Baltimore Ravens - Justin Blalock, OL, Texas
30. San Diego Chargers - Tanard Jackson, DB, Syracuse
31. Chicago Bears - Ben Olsen, TE, Miami (FL.)
32. Indianapolis Colts Jon Beason, LB, Miami(FL.)
how is it even possible he drops to 26
Quote from: SunMo on February 08, 2007, 04:02:22 PM
how is it even possible he drops to 26
Its not, but it is a long offseason and it gives you squabblers something to go insane about for a half hour.
One of the top safeties will. But it won't be Landry, no way. My guess is Merriweather, who looked real good at the Senior Bowl, or Griffin, who looked great too. I think it'll come to combine work outs.
I'd take Griffin everytime. Dude's a playmaker.
Quote from: NGM on February 08, 2007, 04:07:41 PMIts not, but it is a long offseason and it gives you squabblers something to go insane about for a half hour.
well struck
im a squabbler?
how is it even possible he drops to 26
cant you even let us enjoy ourselves for fargING TWO MINUTES!!
i can't help it, i'm so negative
SunMo is the yin to IGY's yang.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 08, 2007, 03:55:21 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-mockdraft020807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
26. Philadelphia Eagles – LaRon Landry, safety, LSU. With safety Michael Lewis set to move via free agency, the Eagles will look to find a replacement. Landry could be the one who gets paired with All-Pro defender Brian Dawkins the next few years.
holla
Stop it. Stop playing with my emotions.
I'd be perfectly happy with Merriweather or Griffin. Landry would be great
Just some updated mocks.
nfldraftcountdown.com Rd 1 Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html)
Rd 2 Troy Smith QB OSU
footballsfuture.com Rd 1 Lawrence Timmons LB FSU http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nflmockdraft.html (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nflmockdraft.html)
draftking.com Rd 1 Sidney Rice WR South Carolina http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2007/mockdraft.shtml (http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2007/mockdraft.shtml)
condraft.com Michael Griffen S Texas http://condraft.com/ (http://condraft.com/)
huddlegeeks.com Rd 1 Fred Bennet CB South Carolina http://www.huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/mockdraft.htm (http://www.huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/mockdraft.htm)
draftace.com Rd. 1 Rober Meachem WR Tennessee
Rd. 2 Brandon Meriweather S Miami (FL.) (updated January 27 so not that recent)
http://www.draftace.com/draft2007/mockdraftround1.htm (http://www.draftace.com/draft2007/mockdraftround1.htm)
Linky for big database for more crappy mocks: http://www.huddlegeeks.com/Links/nflmocks.htm (http://www.huddlegeeks.com/Links/nflmocks.htm)
Not that I think it'll happen, but let me just say that I will strike down upon Andy with great vengeance and furious anger if he drafts a WR in the 1st round... just weeks after the likely event of sending Stallworth on his way.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 09, 2007, 11:52:22 AM
Not that I think it'll happen, but let me just say that I will strike down upon Andy with great vengeance and furious anger if he drafts a WR in the 1st round... just weeks after the likely event of sending Stallworth on his way.
I don't know if I would mind them taking Meachem (assuming Stallworth walks), he is pretty much a carbon copy of Stallworth. Even down to the same school.
if he drafts a WR in the 1st round... just weeks after the likely event of sending Stallworth on his way
that would be unreal....im still furious over spending good money on patterson...money that could have been used for a long term deal for stallworth...
as for a linebacker...i know no one is gonna reveal exactly what they are gonna do...but ive heard a couple different interviews from heckert where he was emphatic about not taking a linebacker in the first round...combine that with the way they view the postition in general and they just arent taking one no matter how much a lot of us want it
anyone who makes a mock draft where they take a linebacker is just not in tune with this front office
anyone who doesn't predict them to pick a lineman isn't in tune with this FO.
AR has had 8 1st round picks since he's been here, 5 have been lineman (4 defensive)
yeah unless there are just absolutely no DE's there at 26 thats what they take
and you really couldnt blame them
kearse injury combined with age
howard ineptitiude combined with age
juqua gone
it would make sense
Kiper had them taking that DE from Texas
who crowder??...i dont like him too much...hes a second rounder at best to me
yeah him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2007, 12:20:16 PM
who crowder??...i dont like him too much...hes a second rounder at best to me
I would murder.
My memory is foggy, what pick(s) do we get for Fraley, Hicks, Thomas, and Parry? I know Fraley and Parry were traded for late rounders, but I'm not sure on Hicks and Thomas.
Fraley - 6th rounder in 2007?
Hicks - used for picks and to move around in 2006 draft, no pick in 2007
Thomas - same deal as Hicks
Parry - conditional pick - probably no better than a 7th
Sweet
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2007, 12:46:46 PM
Fraley - 6th rounder in 2007?
Parry - conditional pick - probably no better than a 7th
Soooo... they'll end up as our new defensive "playmakers".
They're going to get in the mix there.
i wanna make up a t-shirt
like maybe the "the three amigos" and have gocong mccoy and considine on it....think that would take off?
like asteroids out of the center of the earth
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on February 08, 2007, 04:08:25 PM
One of the top safeties will. But it won't be Landry, no way. My guess is Merriweather, who looked real good at the Senior Bowl, or Griffin, who looked great too. I think it'll come to combine work outs.
I'd take Griffin everytime. Dude's a playmaker.
I would be happy with Merriweather, he is one of those guys that was easy to forget about since he played on a bad Miami team this season. Every game I saw them play though the guy was making plays. Either way the Eagles should be able to end up with a pretty good safety in this draft.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 10, 2007, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on February 08, 2007, 04:08:25 PM
One of the top safeties will. But it won't be Landry, no way. My guess is Merriweather, who looked real good at the Senior Bowl, or Griffin, who looked great too. I think it'll come to combine work outs.
I'd take Griffin everytime. Dude's a playmaker.
I would be happy with Merriweather, he is one of those guys that was easy to forget about since he played on a bad Miami team this season. Every game I saw them play though the guy was making plays. Either way the Eagles should be able to end up with a pretty good safety in this draft.
I'm partial to Griffin, but would gladly take M
eriweather if he was availble.
The Fraley and Parry picks are 2008, not this year. This year we only have our regular picks, minus whatever is given up to New Orleans for Stallworth...
look at easy refusing to acknowledge stallworths eminent departure
very well played
Quote from: NGM on February 10, 2007, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 10, 2007, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on February 08, 2007, 04:08:25 PM
One of the top safeties will. But it won't be Landry, no way. My guess is Merriweather, who looked real good at the Senior Bowl, or Griffin, who looked great too. I think it'll come to combine work outs.
I'd take Griffin everytime. Dude's a playmaker.
I would be happy with Merriweather, he is one of those guys that was easy to forget about since he played on a bad Miami team this season. Every game I saw them play though the guy was making plays. Either way the Eagles should be able to end up with a pretty good safety in this draft.
I'm partial to Griffin, but would gladly take Meriweather if he was availble.
I like Griffin more too, especially with the recent success of Texas DBs in the NFL. If they don't go safety in the first round, I would like to see them go with Weddle(sp?) or Rouse in the second. I know IGY would have a fit if they took Weddle, because he is white and played at Utah. But the only time I saw him play the dude was a baller.
i dont have a problem with white safties
its white OLB that you gotta stay away from
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2007, 04:15:13 PM
i dont have a problem with white safties
its white OLB that you gotta stay away from
I was listening to NFL radio this week and they were talking about the reverse racism that goes on with white DBs and RBs in the NFL and college. They were saying that a lot of these guys can play but are never given a real opportunity much like black QBs of the past.
the nfl would start a transvestite nepalese man if he has the talent...bottom line is if you can play they will find you
look at gocong mccoy and considine on the eagles alone...they are being given a chance and they suck...so you know talented whites are gonna get looked at
as for rb thats a joke...there are tons of black running backs and cornerbacks that dont get a look because they are too slow...so what do you think is going to happen to whitey at that position
i should also add that for the racism to exist would be to imply that the people in the positions of picking these players in the nfl are be black...and the opposite is true...
You might be right, I don't know enough to say that I agree or disagree with the point or not. But I will say this, if Brian Leonard were black don't you think he would be a first round lock?
when is the last time a FB of any color went in the first round
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2007, 04:36:43 PM
when is the last time a FB of any color went in the first round
He is not just a FB, he is the kind of player that will definately be more of a RB in the NFL.
then thats why he isnt going in the first round...the kid cannot play half back in the nfl...if you think hes too small for a fullback and some people do...then id play him like an h back ala chris cooley before id play him at hb
thats the problem with him he doesnt have a real position...he still is gonna go anywhere from middle second to even possibly late first if he has a great spring...and thats not bad for a positionless player...in fact its a credit to his versatility that hes gonna go that high...but you cant expect a player like that to go first round
I know they are defensive players but Kearse and Urlacher were in similar situations and that turned out pretty good.
Leonard has great receiving skills which will help him become useful in the NFL. I dont see him as a halfback but more of a WCO FB who could be decent if he can block. I cant see him going in the first round white or black.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on February 10, 2007, 04:45:20 PM
I know they are defensive players but Kearse and Urlacher were in similar situations and that turned out pretty good.
both are athletic freaks of nature.
It was just something that I thought was an interesting topic because you always hear the "other side" but there is never much mention of the other way. Also Solomon Wilcotts agreed with the point which I found interesting as well.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 10, 2007, 04:36:43 PM
when is the last time a FB of any color went in the first round
1994 William Floyd
PFT.com showing how smurt they are:
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1. Oakland Raiders: JaMarcus Russell, quarterback, LSU.
2. Detroit Lions: Joe Thomas, offensive tackle, Wisconsin.
3. Cleveland Browns: Jamaal Anderson, defensive end, Arkansas.
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Calvin Johnson, wide receiver, Georgia Tech.
5. Arizona Cardinals: Alan Branch, defensive tackle, Michigan.
6. Washington taterskins: Gaines Adams, defensive end, Clemson.
7. Minnesota Vikings: Brady Quinn, quarterback, Notre Dame.
8. Houston Texans: Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma.
9. Miami Dolphins: Ted Ginn, Jr., wide receiver, Ohio State.
10. Atlanta Falcons: LaRon Landry, defensive back, LSU.
11. San Francisco 49ers: Amobi Okoye, defensive tackle, Louisville.
12. Buffalo Bills: Dwayne Bowe, wide receiver, LSU.
13. St. Louis Rams: Reggie Nelson, defensive back, Florida.
14. Carolina Panthers: Robert Meacham, wide receiver, Tennessee.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: Levi Brown, offensive tackle, Penn State.
16. Green Bay Packers: DeMarcus Tyler, defensive tackle, North Carolina State.
17. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jarvis Moss, defensive end, Florida.
18. Cincinnati Bengals: Leon Hall, defensive back, Michigan.
19. Tennessee Titans: Lawrence Timmons, linebacker, Florida State.
20. New York Giants: Craig Davis, wide receiver, LSU.
21. Denver Broncos: Marshawn Lynch, running back, California.
22. Dallas Cowboys: Anthony Gonzalez, wide receiver, Ohio State.
23. Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Willis, linebacker, Mississippi.
24. New England Patriots (from Seattle): Arron Sears, offensive tackle, Tennessee.
25. New York Jets: Ben Grubbs, guard, Auburn.
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Zach Miller, tight end, Arizona State.
27. New Orleans Saints: Eric Wright, cornerback, UNLV.
28. New England Patriots: Aaron Ross, cornerback, Texas.
29. Baltimore Ravens: Anthony Spencer, defensive end, Purdue.
30. San Diego Chargers: Adam Carriker, defensive end, Nebraska.
31. Chicago Bears: Darrelle Revis, defensive back, Pittsburgh.
32. Indianapolis Colts: Joe Staley, offensive tackle, Central Michigan.
Not that at I think any of this mock carries weight, but if the Birds picked a TE I'd go farging ballistic.
especially one named zach
Anyone see Brian Leonard on ESPN today? He is saying he wants to play RB, but he lacks burst.
FB and back up RB is his best bet.
his education is his best bet
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on February 15, 2007, 04:43:01 PM
Anyone see Brian Leonard on ESPN today? He is saying he wants to play RB, but he lacks burst.
FB and back up RB is his best bet.
If the Eagles didn't have about 7 more pressing needs I'd say they should take him.
From ESPN Scouts and Todd mcshay
QuoteWith the combine approaching, and the draft season beginning to heat up, it's time to taken another stab at projecting the first round. My third mock draft contains quite a few changes from the previous edition, including a tumble for Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn. Meanwhile, Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson keeps moving up the board, as underclassmen continue to shake up the draft.
x -- Still to be determined by coin flip
+ -- Underclassman
1. Oakland Raiders (2-14)
Projected pick: +JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn, Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson and Wisconsin OT Joe Thomas are also possibilities, but Raiders owner Al Davis could fall in love with Russell's size and arm.
2. Detroit (3-13)
Projected pick: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
It might not be the sexy pick, but sexy picks haven't gotten GM Matt Millen and the Lions very far. Offensive tackle is the team's most glaring weakness, and Thomas is the only elite offensive lineman in this year's draft.
3t. x-Cleveland (4-12)
Projected pick: +Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
If Thomas is off the board, the Browns will be faced with a tough decision between Peterson, Quinn and Michigan DT Alan Branch. The team might not want to invest more money in another young quarterback, and Branch is a bit of a reach at No. 3 overall, so Peterson makes the most sense at this point. Quite honestly, spending this high a pick on a back with durability questions makes me nervous.
3t. x-Tampa Bay (4-12)
Projected pick: +Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
The Bucs have other more pressing needs, but it won't be easy for GM Bruce Allen and coach Jon Gruden to pass on the draft's most dynamic offensive weapon.
5. Arizona (5-11)
Projected pick: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
As usual, the Cardinals are prime candidates to trade down. Otherwise, they should use their pick on the best available defensive playmaker. Adams, Branch and Jamaal Anderson could all be considered.
6. Washington (5-11)
Projected pick: +Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
Branch might also be considered, but Anderson is a no-brainer for a taterskins defense that set a team record for fewest sacks in a season (19) in 2006. Anderson is the complete package physically, and registered 13.5 sacks as a junior in 2006.
7. Minnesota (6-10)
Projected pick: +Ted Ginn Jr., WR/RS, Ohio State
Quinn and Branch would be better values. Unfortunately, the Vikings' biggest draft priority is to find an upgrade at wide receiver, despite using the No. 7 overall pick on Troy Williamson two years ago. Ginn's world-class speed as a receiver and return specialist will be attractive to coach Brad Childress and his staff.
8. Houston (6-10)
Projected pick: Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
Quinn is the toughest prospect to place on the board right now. He could still be the top overall pick to the Raiders, but it's also feasible he could slip all the way to the Panthers at pick No. 14. David Carr, the 2002 top pick, has clearly fallen out of favor with the Texans, so they would find it tough to pass on Quinn if he's available here.
9. Miami (6-10)
Projected pick: +Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
Branch would be a steal at No. 9 overall. At 6-foot-5, 330 pounds, he can play NT and/or DE in a 3-4 scheme, as well as DE in a 4-3 scheme. That type of versatility should be attractive to the Dolphins.
10. Atlanta (7-9)
Projected pick: LaRon Landry, DS, LSU
Penn State OT Levi Brown is a possibility, especially with new head coach Bobby Petrino looking to get bigger and more physical along the offensive line. However, Landry is rated higher and plays a position of equal need. A four-year starter in the SEC, Landry should be ready to start immediately in the NFL.
11. San Francisco (7-9)
Projected pick: +Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
Jarrett is admittedly a reach at No. 11, but there's a drop-off in overall talent after the top 10 prospects. Jarrett is a proven playmaker with extraordinary hand-eye coordination. He needs to run well to sneak into the top 15. Jarrett would be a fine young weapon for QB Alex Smith.
12. Buffalo (7-9)
Projected pick:: Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
The Bills will be in the market for a top-shelf cornerback if they lose free agent Nate Clements. Hall's stock is dropping because he lacks elite speed, but he makes up for it with instincts, size and athleticism.
13. St. Louis (8-8)
Projected pick: Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
The Rams are looking to improve their size and toughness up front defensively. Okoye is still a bit raw, but his upside is tremendous because he's only 19 years old. Okoye is quick and powerful enough to contribute as a sub-package pass-rusher early in his career, before hopefully emerging as a full-time starter in the future.
14. Carolina (8-8)
Projected pick: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
Florida DS Reggie Nelson is also a possibility, but the Panthers have spent a first- or second-round pick on a defensive back in each of the past three drafts. Brown makes more sense, as he could help solidify an offensive line that was shuffled due to injuries in 2006. If Brown emerges as the starting left tackle, Travelle Wharton could move back inside to his more natural guard position.
15. Pittsburgh (8-8)
Projected pick: +Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida State
Timmons' stock will soar if his combine workout matches the hype. The Steelers may be facing a scheme change defensively under new head coach Mike Tomlin, so Timmons' versatility and rare physical tools could help ease that transition.
Quote16. Green Bay (8-8)
Projected pick: +Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
Brett Favre could help maximize Lynch's explosiveness and versatility if they're working in the same backfield in 2007.
17. Jacksonville (8-8)
Projected pick: +Reggie Nelson, DS, Florida
FS Deon Grant is the only defensive starter not locked up for the 2007 season. If he leaves, Nelson would be a good replacement. Nelson needs to get bigger and stronger, but his speed and ball skills are outstanding.
18. Cincinnati (8-8)
Projected pick: +Darrelle Revis, DC/RS, Pittsburgh
The Bengals will be targeting the top defensive prospect available with this pick and Revis fits the bill. He is a big cornerback who will support the run and show quality instincts and athleticism in coverage. Revis' value is also helped by his potential as a return specialist.
19. Tennessee (8-8)
Projected pick: Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
QB Vince Young needs more weapons to work with on the perimeter, and the Titans would be elated if Bowe slipped to them at No. 19. Bowe averaged 15.2 yards per catch with 12 TDs as a senior. At 6-foot-2 and 222 pounds, Bowe also impressed with his toughness and athleticism at the Senior Bowl.
20. N.Y. Giants (8-8)
Projected pick: Aaron Ross, DC/RS, Texas
The Giants must upgrade their cover-corner situation and Ross has the type of size, speed and agility to quickly emerge as a starter in the NFL. Ross also brings value as a playmaking return specialist.
21. Denver (9-7)
Projected pick: +Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
The Broncos have needs at safety, wide receiver and running back, but none is more pressing than the need for an impact pass-rushing defensive end. With four Day 1 picks, the Broncos are prime candidates to move up in the first round. If they stay at No. 21, Johnson has the quickness and relentlessness to help the cause.
22. Dallas (9-7)
Projected pick: Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
The Cowboys could go with the top defensive back with this pick. Nelson would be ideal. If he's gone, the team could draft a cornerback and move Anthony Henry to free safety. Hughes stood out as the best cover corner at this year's Senior Bowl, but must answer questions regarding his top-end speed.
23. Kansas City (9-7)
Projected pick: +Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
Rice's draft stock could fluctuate greatly depending on his postseason workouts. Assuming he grades out as a late first-round prospect, the Chiefs would welcome his pass-catching services on the perimeter.
24. New England (from Seattle)
Projected pick: +Jarvis Moss, DE/OLB, Florida
The Patriots have not been keen on drafting linebackers on Day 1, but that could change this year. Bill Belichick has a thing for players out of Florida and Moss is a perfect fit as a developmental rush linebacker in the Patriots' 3-4 scheme.
25. N.Y. Jets (10-6)
Projected pick: Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
Cornerback, running back and offensive tackle are also positions of need, but Carriker is an ideal fit as a versatile 290-pound defensive lineman who can play end in a three- or four-man front.
26. Philadelphia (10-6)
Projected pick: Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue
Tennessee WR Robert Meachem is a possibility if the team elects to let Donte Stallworth go, but addressing the defensive front seven is a bigger priority. Spencer was a late bloomer in college, but burst onto the national scene with 26.5 tackles for loss as a senior. :puke
27. New Orleans (10-6)
Projected pick: +Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
The Saints need a youth movement at cornerback and Houston could emerge as a good value late in the first round. He's flying under the radar right now, but the more film I watch of him the more impressed I become with his natural cover skills. Houston did an excellent job of limiting top-flight wideouts such as Jarrett, Meachem and Bowe as a junior this past season.
28. New England (12-4)
Projected pick: Patrick Willis, ILB, Mississippi
Tedy Bruschi and Mike Vrabel are not getting any younger. Willis is instinctive, tough, quick and versatile enough to earn a starting job as a rookie, which would allow Vrabel to move back to his more natural outside linebacker position.
29. Baltimore (13-3)
Projected pick: Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn
Baltimore's offensive line is aging quickly. Grubbs is the premier guard prospect in this year's class and could be ready to start immediately in the NFL. USC OC Ryan Kalil is another NFL-ready interior offensive lineman who should be available. Finally, the Ravens may choose not to re-sign free agent OLB Adalius Thomas in the offseason, so drafting a hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker is another possibility.
30. San Diego (14-2)
Projected pick: +Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
Safety is a possibility here, but the Chargers could get a better value in Meachem, who displays the size, speed and playmaking skills that QB Philip Rivers needs on the perimeter.
31. Chicago (13-3)
Projected pick: Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn State
If the Bears can't re-sign Lance Briggs, Posluszny could become his replacement. Posluszny's stock is dropping due to a sub-par senior season. He returned from a knee injury and made a position change to inside linebacker in a new 3-4 scheme. Do not be surprised, though, if he sneaks back into the bottom of the first round after finishing as the career leader in tackles at "Linebacker U."
32. Indianapolis (12-4)
Projected pick: Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee
The Colts could go in a number of different directions with this pick, including an athletic inside linebacker such as Florida's Brandon Siler. However, Harrell could be a steal late in the first round, if he checks out physically after suffering a season-ending biceps tear as a senior. He's the type of quick and aggressive interior player the Colts will be looking for throughout this year's draft.
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26. Philadelphia (10-6)
Projected pick: Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue
Tennessee WR Robert Meachem is a possibility if the team elects to let Donte Stallworth go, but addressing the defensive front seven is a bigger priority. Spencer was a late bloomer in college, but burst onto the national scene with 26.5 tackles for loss as a senior.
wasn't being a late bloomer Bunkley's description as well?
Lolz @ Spencer over Willis.
If Willis is there, he is the best defensive player available, no question about it. I bet the Eagles would take him then too.
Linebackers are for the gays. Lineman all the way.
Linebackers are for the gays. Lineman that cant play all the way.
At least they haven't drafted a white guy in the first round since McNabb Mamula.
I'm sttill not sure an undersized MLB is going to benefit playing behind two undersized DTs.
I still think you are putting entirely too much emphasis on the listed weight of a prospect.
Would you rather have Jonathan Vilma or Jeremiah Trotter?
If you're talking about Willis, 6'2 240 is plenty big enough. He had an awful defensive line in front of him at Mississippi and was in the SEC and still was awesome.
People put way too much stock into size anyways. Unless he's vastly undersized it doesnt matter, you think a 320 pound G is able to tell the difference of trying to block a 250 pound guy compared to 240?
He's listed at 240, and Munson's whining about him being undersized?
Proof-positive: Munson's an idiot.
I'd even go as far as to say that I wouldn't want the Eagles to draft anyone coming out at MLB any HEAVIER than 250 lbs or so - they usually end up being the Levon Kirkland / Chris Claiborne types and not the Vilma/Pierce/Urlacher/Zach Thomas/Al Wilson type of difference-maker.
He's listed at 240, and Munson's whining about him being undersized?
thats because he has no clue who patrick willis is
DeMeco Ryans came out at 220, and that number was probably generous.
He was... uh... pretty farging good for a rookie.
yup....certain guys just make plays...pretty sure thats why they call them playmakers
Im all for Willis, but pretty sure that i'll hear a OT picked :-X
There are a lot of good things about Willis. He's one of the players that will probably due to not running a 4.5 40 time. He's "arguably" the best LB in the draft but probably wont be considered that after Lawrence Timmons runs a 4.5 time. Willis is such a good person that it seems that Reid would almost have to be interested in him.
Seabiscuit, I highly doubt an OL. The top two OT are Joe Thomas and Levi Brown. They'll be long gone by 26. After them, the drop is huge.
There are a lot of good things about Willis. He's one of the players that will probably due to not running a 4.5 40 time. He's "arguably" the best LB in the draft but probably wont be considered that after Lawrence Timmons runs a 4.5 time.
sounds very much like what everyone was saying about ryans last year
Seabiscuit, I highly doubt an OL
on needs alone no way they take an OL...i think its DL all the way...with a smaller chance of a DB
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 04:00:16 PM
sounds very much like what everyone was saying about ryans last year
Pretty much. Willis is a bit bigger and played better, but they're pretty similar.
I hope the priority is best available talent at DL, LB, DB through the first three picks. Don't care which they take first..just get the best player on the board, then drop that position for the next selection and take the best available of the remaining positions. etc.
Works in NFL2k5...
I watched one regular season game of Willis and also the Senior bowl. I think how outstanding he was during teh regular season was amazing considering what he had in front of him. When you look at what he did with real talent in front of him at the senior bowl, I hope to god/allah/budda that they make him the targeted guy
I'd take Willis in a second but I don't think he'll be there.
as long a hes blck. im in
Pozluzny is the exact same only he is white so that means he is out, right?
as a mlb poz might have a future in the nfl
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2007, 06:30:38 AM
as a mlb poz might have a future in the nfl
Agreed. His best-case scenario is Zach Thomas - basically makes a ton of tackles and is always in the right place, but gets occasionally exposed in pass coverage.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 22, 2007, 08:06:19 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 22, 2007, 06:30:38 AM
as a mlb poz might have a future in the nfl
Agreed. His best-case scenario is Zach Thomas - basically makes a ton of tackles and is always in the right place, but gets occasionally exposed in pass coverage.
That is a pretty good "best case" scenario.
Cleveland won the coin flip with Tampa Bay and will pick 3rd. They finally won something...
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2007, 03:08:58 PM
He's listed at 240, and Munson's whining about him being undersized?
Proof-positive: Munson's an idiot.
I'd even go as far as to say that I wouldn't want the Eagles to draft anyone coming out at MLB any HEAVIER than 250 lbs or so - they usually end up being the Levon Kirkland / Chris Claiborne types and not the Vilma/Pierce/Urlacher/Zach Thomas/Al Wilson type of difference-maker.
EArlier in the thead I'm pretty sure he waas being listed at 230. If he's at 240, that's pretty good. I'm just saying that no matter who our MLB is, he's going to continue to get smacked around by OLinement until this team gets a little bigger at DT. Someone who can eat up a 2nd guy.
Looking to the 3rd/4th round, I'd like the Eagles to get the UD TE Ben Patrick. They love thier 2 TE sets, and Shoeboat was adissapointment until the end of the year. And god knows the Eagles probably won't pay LJ the cash he'll ask for next year.
Well being from Delaware and having the chance to see Patrick this year, he would be a great 3rd round pick. I've seen him listed on every site no later than the 5 overall TE and with his athletic abilty he could step in early.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 24, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
Well being from Delaware and having the chance to see Patrick this year, he would be a great 3rd round pick. I've seen him listed on every site no later than the 5 overall TE and with his athletic abilty he could step in early.
Exactly. He seems like he'd be the perfect fit for this offense. I believe he came into the combine at 6'3, 252. Athletic, fast, pretty big, and hopefully a better blocker then Schobel or LJ (though LJ seemed to really improve his blocking as the year went on...anyone else notice that?)
Quote from: Munson on February 24, 2007, 01:40:07 AM(though LJ seemed to really improve his blocking as the year went on...anyone else notice that?)
Nope.
any other nerds watching the Combine on NFLN?
Just turned it on to check it out. Greg Olsen (Miami TE) just ran a 4.45...
Hopefully that pushes him into the top 25.
leonard ran a faster 40 than marshawn lynch...at least on the first attempt he did
theres a white wr with a huge pony tail at the combine...awful
anyone have any idea who he is
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2007, 04:15:23 PM
anyone have any idea who he is
Mr. Perfect? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rLILgmyKcaM)
ha...worse
he has a bandana and hes rocking it like unfolded aunt jemima style...he looks like hes in one of those real world vs road rules contests on the beach
Me with a ponytail?
Calvin Johnson (6'5" 240) ran a 4.35 today. Insane...
With each new class, we get an increasingly coddled and refined athlete. Dudes who more and more, didn't have to actually do a thing other than play, work out, eat the nutritionist prescribed diet, practice, perform the doctor supervised injury rehab, etc.
Jarrett ran a 4.7 Maybe he falls to the second round and we can get him if Stallworth leaves.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 25, 2007, 06:36:34 PM
With each new class, we get an increasingly coddled and refined athlete. Dudes who more and more, didn't have to actually do a thing other than play, work out, eat the nutritionist prescribed diet, practice, perform the doctor supervised injury rehab, etc.
Which is exactly why I hate today's athletes.
With each new class, we get an increasingly coddled and refined athlete. Dudes who more and more, didn't have to actually do a thing other than play, work out, eat the nutritionist prescribed diet, practice, perform the doctor supervised injury rehab, etc.
possibly the worst non king cole post ever
stop taking life so seriously and get some (or better) snatch
what's your objection?
u luv u sum Dio or sumthing?
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 25, 2007, 06:24:14 PM
Calvin Johnson (6'5" 240) ran a 4.35 today. Insane...
#1 overall?
They'd be stupid not to take Johnson. I'm not even that big a fan of Russell. Calvin is a stud.
How would they be stupid exactly? They cut Brooks, who sucks beyond reason, but still. Walters? Jesus Christ, do they need a QB in the worst way. Just like the Birds not drafting Ricky Williams, you don't build a franchise around a WR. Figure out who's the best QB in the draft and take him. The Raiders don't have a tough decision here. The Lions do. Do you let Johnson go to draft a QB of the future, or trust Kitna for one more year?
because both quinn and russell could easily be busts...its a total crap shoot with qb's
whereas johnson is insane and at worst is going to be a good #1 wr and has a good chance to be the best wr in the nfl
this comment makes sense. But farg, who is gonna throw him the ball? jeff garcia??
Don't matter what Johnson can do if A) the QB outright SUCKS! and B) the OL outright SUCKS! (like in OAK) unless they plan on direct snapping to Johnson on every play. C'mon, I agree that none of the QBs look like a lock, and FA ain't gonna be too helpful, but they need a signal caller in the worst way. Not another prima donna receiver.
What's the story with Gallery? Has he been a complete failure? Jake Grove? Him too?? What's up with that line?
im not saying they should be killed if they take a qb...im more playing devils advocate...altho i persoanlly would take cj as hes the best wr i can ever remember coming out of college
Quote from: Diomedes on February 25, 2007, 08:16:56 PM
What's the story with Gallery? Has he been a complete failure? Jake Grove? Him too?? What's up with that line?
Gallery has been awful, Grove supposedly has been decent.
I don't follow Oakland, so I have to take your word.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 25, 2007, 08:29:57 PM
I don't follow Oakland, so I have to take your word.
I don't either, but I listen to NFL radio quite often.
I don't follow the Eagles Oakland, so I have to take your word.
that too
ha! good one, vigy so funny.
Calvin is ridiculously good. He would make a QB look good, example Reggie Ball. The guy is as IGY said, a Freak who in 3 years could truly be the best WR in the game.
Now if Jarrett falls, thats an Anquan Boldin situation. Bad 40, great player.
Johnson will go #4 to Tampa Bay unless someone trades up for him. The first 3 teams have bigger needs than WR...
Russell, Joe Thomas & Adrian Peterson will go before Johnson.
They shouldn't but they will because of needs.
JC, did anyone else see Peterson timed at 4.43 in the 40. Yikes.
The Raiders have bigger needs than WR, but this team is in a year to year rebuilding process. They can get a QB next year. Calvin Johnson is too special to pass up.
Meecham ran a 4.36 I think. If Stallworth is gone, do you think the Eagles can get him at thier pick?
Would you want them to?
If the Raiders take a QB, they should trade out of the first spot. It's not like they don't have a number of holes to fill.
For the first time in as long as I can remember I am not even remotely excited about this draft.
Maybe last year crushed me. I was thrilled with getting Bunkley and Justice. Thought MJG was a steal. Even the WRs looked like they had a way to contribute to the team.
No.
Meecham doesnt do anything for me. I'd much rather have Stallworth. Same school, Donte is faster, similar injury historys.
Patrick Willis ran a 4.49 and 4.53 second time. Don't count on him being there anymore. :-\
I'm with rjs on this year's draft. I got all excited about last year's, and it's been decidedly anticlimactic since. This year, I'll watch most of it, but I won't bother paying any attention to pre-draft coverage.
Meecham doesnt do anything for me. I'd much rather have Stallworth. Same school, Donte is faster, similar injury historys.
it would be unimaginable for the eagles let stallworth walk and then draft meecham...meecham IS stallworth but unproven....the only positive would be that my feelings over stallworth leaving would turn from anger to hilarity...thats how ridiculous it would be
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 03:02:19 PM
Meecham doesnt do anything for me. I'd much rather have Stallworth. Same school, Donte is faster, similar injury historys.
it would be unimaginable for the eagles let stallworth walk and then draft meecham...meecham IS stallworth but unproven...
and a lot cheaper....... hmmmmmmmmmm sound like something Joe Banner would like ?
Quote from: MURP on February 26, 2007, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 03:02:19 PM
Meecham doesnt do anything for me. I'd much rather have Stallworth. Same school, Donte is faster, similar injury historys.
it would be unimaginable for the eagles let stallworth walk and then draft meecham...meecham IS stallworth but unproven...
and a lot cheaper....... hmmmmmmmmmm sound like something Joe Banner would like ?
Bingo.
I heard on ESPN radio today that Meecham looked really out of shape. I'm beginning to doubt that if he ran a 4.3whatever.
I heard on ESPN radio today that Meecham looked really out of shape. I'm beginning to doubt that if he ran a 4.3whatever.
i saw it live...and i saw him in other drills and he looked pretty damn good to me...he was by far the best and smoothest in the drill where they run the width of the field while getting balls fired at them along the way
Meacham and Bowe looked pretty damn good.
Well then what the hell. Draft him. Yeah it'd be retarded to let a proven guy like Stallworth walk only to draft a player just like him but unproven. But Meachem does have 2-3 inches on Donte if I'm not mistaken....a bigger guy with that kind of speed?
He and Reggie would make a good combination.
Rookies always contribute so much in this offense.
in no way am i saying draft him...just was stating that i watched him run that 40....why the hell would you let stallworth go then draft a wr....thats lunacy
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 04:38:38 PM
in no way am i saying draft him...just was stating that i watched him run that 40....why the hell would you let stallworth go then draft a wr....thats lunacy
Let me put it to you the way the Eagles FO would...
Stallworth=6 years, 40 million, 18 Million SB
Meachem=Not 6 years, 40 million, 18 million SB
I want Stallworth back very badly, but even I wouldn't throw that much cash at a guy who's game is speed when he has chronic hamstring problems. shtein, even if the hamstring wasn't a constant problem, I still wouldn't pay him that much. Rosenhaus is taking advantage of the inflated cap numbers this year...and for once, the Eagles don't have that kinda dough.
They have plenty of money. They could and should consider cutting guys like McDougle & Dhani Jones, among others, to make a significant amount of cap room available.
Don't let the cap situation fool you. They could sign Stallworth easily.
Yes, cutting dhani and Jerome would be good first steps to clearing some room...but then they'd have to get guys like Kearse to restructure, etc....I just don't see them being able to do it. They still have to leave aset amount aside for the draft, and I'd like them to keep guys like J. THomas and Mikell. THe last thing they need is holes behind the holes on defense.
Right. It's much more important to sign Juqua and Mikell for the defense than to have a speed WR in an offense that throws 55 60 65 percent of the time and has a QB known for arm strength and not pinpoint accuracy.
They have PLENTY of cap room to get it all done anyway, if they really wanted to.
yup, they just don't want to
in fact, they had a built in excuse with the cap room rumor that is running wild, but Heckert took that out of the picture, which is weird.
Let me put it to you the way the Eagles FO would...
Stallworth=6 years, 40 million, 18 Million SB
Meachem=Not 6 years, 40 million, 18 million SB
and?!?!
the big money gets you a #1 wr
the lesser money gets you a player who might never start in the nfl
In most years, 10-12 mil in cap space would be more then enough.
In a year where other teams are looking at 25-30 million....10-12 million is looking like peanuts.
There's no way the Eagles will throw out 40 mil plus an 18 million signing bonus. 58 million for Stallworth...how much was TO's total contract worth?
IGY, you honestly believe Meachem doesn't have the size, speed, and talent to start in the NFL at SOME point in his career?? My only question on bringing him here would be is he smart enough to learn the offense. If not, he'd benefit from going somwhere with a much simpiler scheme.
I don't care what Meachem might do at some point in time.
I do care that Stallworth has proven to make a huge difference in the offense.
And that 2-4% glimmer of hope that the Eagles would resign him started walking out the door when the 6-40-18 SB demand became public. So you're either looking at Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett/Jason Avant, or you could possibly have Reggie Brown and Meachem.
Take your pick. Unless the Eagles defy all rules of thier usual MO and spend out the ass and more for a guy, Stallworth won't be here next year.
It doesn't matter if they draft a WR this year or not... it will still be Brown/Baskett/Avant/Lewis in some combination as the 1/2/3/4 unless a miracle happens and they re-sign Stallworth... or more likely, they sign some other B-level filler WR to "get in the mix and compete".
None of this changes that they have plenty of money to retain the services of Stallworth if they so choose. Hell, they could spend every draft pick except 1 (3rd QB) on defense and sign at least a couple of available guys to patch up the D... because the offense has everything it needs.
Probably won't happen, but it should.
Wrong. IF they spend that kind of money on Stallworth, they won't have enough cash to sign guys to defense. Mikell and Thomas would be gone, meaning the Eagles would need 2 rookie safety's, and another rookie DE or two depending on how much faith you want to put in Kearse' knee, and go with Gaither-Trotter-Jones/Gocong at LB.
Maybe they'd still have enough cash left over to keep Will Peterson as the #3 CB, but that's about it. This defense has enough holes, lets not create bottomless pits behind them on the depth chart.
If the Eagles don't resign Stallworth, I'd like them to draft Meachem in the first round. Unless he 's another Moats and is as dumb as arock when it comes to learning an NFL playbook, he'd end up starting ahead of Baskett and Avant. If Baskett can contribute as a rookie, Meachem can.
I don't care if they resign Stallworth or not, if they draft a WR in the first round I will farging destroy something. They need defense, not some douchebag WR in the first round who has 70% chance of being a complete bust.
So both of you, shut the farg up.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 26, 2007, 05:42:18 PM
I don't care if they resign Stallworth or not, if they draft a WR in the first round I will farging destroy something. They need defense, not some douchebag WR in the first round who has 70% chance of being a complete bust.
So both of you, shut the farg up.
It doesn't matter who they get in round 1, because he'll be a spectacular bust.
Patrick Willis = 4.51
Poz = 4.69
ouch
Quote from: rjs246 on February 26, 2007, 05:42:18 PM
I don't care if they resign Stallworth or not, if they draft a WR in the first round I will farging destroy something. They need defense, not some douchebag WR in the first round who has 70% chance of being a complete bust.
So both of you, shut the farg up.
If they signed Stallworth and then drafted a WR in the first round, then I'd destory something. If Stallworth is gone and they draft a WR in the first, I won't be too pissed off.
Poz will probably be there at 26 (no thanks)
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 26, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
Patrick Willis = 4.51
Poz = 4.69
ouch
That's faster than I would have expected Poz to run.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 26, 2007, 05:56:32 PM
Poz will probably be there at 26 (no thanks)
agreed
Shaw PSU - 4.49
Looks like the only chance they'll have at getting some who can contribute to the defense this year will be if they trade up.
I'll take Meachem please.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 06:02:40 PM
Looks like the only chance they'll have at getting some who can contribute to the defense this year will be if they trade up.
I'll take Meachem please.
Meacham isn't going to be a #1 WR IMO. I'd take Jarrett is a second over him. Everyone is down on Jarrett all of a sudden after running a 4.7. He was every bit as good as Calvin Johnson this college season. He is a stud. He has great cuts and uses his body really well. Great hands too. Not to mention is is 6'5.
The last thing the Eagles need is another slower big guy. Without Stallworth, they will need someone with speed.
Not to mention that Jarrett won't be there when the Eagles pick...Meachem most likely will be. I think he's projected to go right before the Eagles pick actually, but throw the Jets a bone or somethin and get him.
He's also listed at 6'3-6'4, 214 pounds, and ran a 4.39.
Unless he shares a brain with Ryan Moats...yes please.
um, i'm the reigning eagles mock draft champion, so lets please keep all the guessing to me.
The Eagles obviously have a boner for Baskett and Avant, so the notion of them spending a 1st round pick on a WR is absurd.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 06:13:44 PM
The last thing the Eagles need is another slower big guy. Without Stallworth, they will need someone with speed.
Not to mention that Jarrett won't be there when the Eagles pick...Meachem most likely will be. I think he's projected to go right before the Eagles pick actually, but throw the Jets a bone or somethin and get him.
He's also listed at 6'3-6'4, 214 pounds, and ran a 4.39.
Unless he shares a brain with Ryan Moats...yes please.
Jarrett isn't "slow" if you've seen him play. He ran a 4.7, but he plays fast. Don't put too much stock into 40 times. Jarrett has burnt plenty of corners deep. Will he burn NFL corners deep? I don't know, but no draft pick is a sure thing. A lot of draft sites are moving Meacham and Bowe over Jarrett now because of the 40 time. If Jarrett drops to 26 I absolutely take him. If not, then I don't take receiver... period. Even if Bowe and Meacham are there. I'd like Bowe more than Meacham though.
Unless Jarrett is there this draft has to be about defense.
Phatty-Please tell us who they'll take. 8)
SD-We were assuming that last year and then out of the blue they traded for Stallworth. A WR in the first round isn't totally out of the question.
Cole-Jarrett will not be there. Draft SITES might be moving him down, but I guarentee NFL scouts aren't shoving him down the list that far. I know he's not SLOW, but again this offense needs somebody fastER then him who can stretch the field. If for some reason the NFL goes dumb and lets him fall to 26, then I'd be all for it. But they won't, and he won't, and Meachem would be an excellent pick at 26. A guy with that kind of size running a 4.39 would be a pretty big deal if someone named Calvin Johnson wasn't involved in this draft.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 06:24:35 PM
Phatty-Please tell us who they'll take. 8)
SD-We were assuming that last year and then out of the blue they traded for Stallworth. A WR in the first round isn't totally out of the question.
Completely different circumstances. They spent a 4th round pick on Stallworth while their two project receivers got their feet wet.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 06:24:35 PM
Cole-Jarrett will not be there. Draft SITES might be moving him down, but I guarentee NFL scouts aren't shoving him down the list that far. I know he's not SLOW, but again this offense needs somebody fastER then him who can stretch the field. If for some reason the NFL goes dumb and lets him fall to 26, then I'd be all for it. But they won't, and he won't, and Meachem would be an excellent pick at 26. A guy with that kind of size running a 4.39 would be a pretty big deal if someone named Calvin Johnson wasn't involved in this draft.
I don't think he'll be there either, but it definitely isn't a lock. You saw how fast Matt Jones and Chad Jackson rose the past couple years. WRs rise and fall all the time.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 05:55:19 PM
If Stallworth is gone and they draft a WR in the first, I won't be too pissed off.
Well, that's because you're an idiot.
Some explanations are easier than others.
so munsin doesnt want to pay stallworth because supposedly it will prevent the eagles from improving the team at other spots...yet he wants to use their first round pick on stallworths position
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
so munsin doesnt want to pay stallworth because supposedly it will prevent the eagles from improving the team at other spots...yet he wants to use their first round pick on stallworths position
It makes sense if you're a mildly-retarded teenager from Delaware.
I'm mildy retarded!!
True, but you live in NY and aren't even close to a teenager.
That said, I guess you'll have to go through Delaware to get to your new home.
is munsin a teenager for real?
that would explain a lot
Quote from: King Cole on February 26, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
Shaw PSU - 4.49
He will be nothing in the NFL. Nothing. I don't care what his 40 time is.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:21:38 PM
is munsin a teenager for real?
that would explain a lot
Yes.
Yes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:21:38 PM
is munsin a teenager for real?
that would explain a lot
wouldn't it?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
so munsin doesnt want to pay stallworth because supposedly it will prevent the eagles from improving the team at other spots...yet he wants to use their first round pick on stallworths position
You read good. [/dur]
Is this that hard of a concept to understand? Paying Stallworth the money he's supposedly asking for will prevent the Eagles from spending much money elsewhere this year, let alone enough money to keep guys like Thomas, Peterson, and Mikell here. If Stallworth leaves, they have money to resign those guys, sign some patch work defensive guys, and draft a guy like Meachem in the first round to start along side Reggie.
If you guys are comfortable with Joselio as the #3 CB behind an oft. injured Lito, and a Sheldon Brown coming off an off year....well I guess that's your choice. If you're comfortable with Trent Cole and Darren Howard being the only two healthy DE's on the roster, again I guess that's your choice. And I guess everyone is comfortable with Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett/Jason Avant starting at WR, instead of once Stallworth is gone trying to replace him with a young, fast, big athlete.
Please. Stop. Posting.
seriously....the number of falsehoods (or possibly they are staight up lies perpetuated to try to prove a completely inaccurate point) contained in each munsin post is staggering
Quote from: rjs246 on February 26, 2007, 09:36:48 PM
Please. Stop. Posting.
Stop reading or stop whining, puss.
Igy, please prove to me that the Eagles will have enough money under the cap to give Stallworth a 6 year, 40 million dollar deal with an 18 million dollar signign bonus, and still sign some of thier other key FA's AND go out and sign some patchwork guys on defense. All this without the appropiated amount put aside for the rooke pool.
You can't.
they do and more
the gm of the team has said so on more than one occasion
every other team in the nfl at one time or another (or multiple times) during the salary cap era has done way more with way less than the eagles have this year
but youre gonna believe what you what and talk yourself into that belief with lies and theres nothing i can do to change your down syndromed brain...so please carry on and annoy someone else...preferably on the emb
$40 million is the total price of the deal and includes the $18 million bonus. But even for arguments' sake, I'll assume the value is $58 million over 6 years total:
2007:
$18,000,000 bonus + $750,000 salary
$3,750,000 cap hit
($18,750,000 actual money to Donte)
2008:
$3,900,000 salary
$6,900,000 cap hit
From here on, salary is only money Donte receives.
2009:
$5,900,000 salary
$8,900,000 cap hit
2010:
$7,900,000 salary
$10,900,000 cap hit
($9,000,000 cap hit if cut)
2011:
$9,900,000 salary
$12,900,000 cap hit
($6,000,000 cap hit if cut)
2012:
$11,900,000 salary
$14,900,000 cap hit
($3,000,000 cap hit if cut)
Will he ever see the last two years of a deal like that without restructuring or being cut? No way. Will he care when he inks a contract that puts over $18 mill in his pocket in the first year? No way.
So, the actual value of such a deal would be more like a 4 year, $36.2 million deal.
And please don't bother falling back on the "but the Eagles aren't going to do that anyway" excuse. You're arguing that they CAN'T AFFORD to re-sign him at his requested rate, and that's just simply false.
You fail to realize that Heckert said this BEFORE Rosenhaus let it be known that Donte wants THAT much cash. I think even you weren't expecting Stallworth to be asking for that kind of top 5 WR in the NFL money.
It's funny...when Heckert or whoever else says something to the press that you like and agree with, they must be telling the truth. But any other time...they're liars. :-D
The only way they'd be able to open up enough space to do all that is by cutting some guys they probably shouldn't be cutting. After Dhani Jones and Jerome McDougle, who else is there that they can cut without a real second thought?
The most they can do is try to trade William Thomas, that'll free up a good amount of room...who else is there? And are you ready to start Justice at LT? Thier only hope is that guys will be willing to restructure...because everything else they will do still won't free up enough to sign Stallworth to that contract AND keep some other guys AND go out and get some new guys.
They're not going te be able to free up enough money. End of story. There's a 95.5% chance that Stallworth will not be here next year. Assuming he's not here, I want Meachem in the 1st round. They'll need someone fast to play opposite Reggie Brown. They can then focus the money they have to bring in some patchwork guys on defense, re-sign thier defensive FA's, and focus the rest of the draft on defense.
FF-The argument is can they afford to sign him AND help the team in other areas? No, they really can't. I want Stallworth here bad, but I'm also worried that whatever, if any, improvements they could have made to the defense (in addition to resigning thier own FA's), will be pretty much impossible giving him that kind of money. So we'll be sitting through another terrible year of defense. The offense would have to play lights out all year (which won't happen, because Reid will be calling the plays), we'd be looking at a Clots or Chiefs like situation where we HOPE we can outscore the other team. Sure, we can hope like hell our defense does what the Colts D did and tighten up for the playoffs...but I don't see that happening.
Hey FF, everyone from Delaware isn't Munsons.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 10:05:28 PMblah blah blaa
seriously...no one reads this. you gotta aspire to brevity. really. even I learned this lesson.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 26, 2007, 10:06:39 PM
Hey FF, everyone from Delaware isn't Munsons.
you're a goddamned idiot too.
seriously...no one reads this
i read it and it hurts my head...hes officially on my ignore list right behind bunkley
whats amazing is ff just showed him you can sign stallworth for little money on the cap this year and still have plenty of money to sign scrubs like thomas and mikell and other fa's if they want...but instead of recognizing that he writes war and peace
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
The argument is can they afford to sign him AND help the team in other areas? No, they really can't.
Wrong. The cap hit for this year would be less than $4 million.
I live in MARYLAND now neighbor :P Make sure you stop off in Elkton on your move :-*
I LOVE elkton. It's the "we're HOME" sign southbound 95. MD holla!@!2
Quote from: Diomedes on February 26, 2007, 10:13:32 PM
I LOVE elkton. It's the "we're HOME" sign southbound 95. MD holla!@!2
Dio, its really a fricking hick town. But if you guys want to stop by your more than welcome. Im about 2 miles from I-95
Of course it's a hick town. But it's the first sign that says I'm in MD, and I love MD.
So it gets love.
elkton used to be the marriage capital of the east coast
First RJS and SunMo and now Dio and the Biscuit, things are getting a little too chummy around here.
On Thread post: draft Lando Griffen.
You and your brother are a little too preoccupied with the draft for my taste. And I've actually attended three of them.
Quote from: NGM on February 26, 2007, 10:17:59 PM
draft Lando
Yes.
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Quote from: Diomedes on February 26, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
You and your brother are a little too preoccupied with the draft for my taste. And I've actually attended three of them.
We have addictive personalities.
the best personality a man can have, if you ask me
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 26, 2007, 10:11:07 PM
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
The argument is can they afford to sign him AND help the team in other areas? No, they really can't.
Wrong. The cap hit for this year would be less than $4 million.
on an 18,000,000 dollar signing bonus?
Wasn't TO's cap number for the first year of his similar contract a little over 7 million on the first year, with a smaller signing bonus?
7.2 million to be exact, on a total salary value for the first year of over 9 million.
The Eagles chose to structure much of TO's bonus as a roster bonus so as to not delay the cap hit.
They did this for two reasons:
1. His volatile personality could cause him to be cut early in the contract, and lumping too much money into a signing bonus would put a ton of cap risk on the team in the future.
2. They had the cap room to do it that way.
1. is not true of Donte, and you better bet that if 2. is more true than you obviously believe, they will milk as much of this year's cap as possible.
That said, the minimum cap hit for any given deal is the bonus money divided by the years plus the minimum yearly salary. In this case, that would be less than $4 million.
You lose.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 26, 2007, 10:33:35 PM
You lose.
You're forgetting the magic of Munson.
You prove him wrong over and over again and yet he keeps posting progressively longer, inaccurate horseshtein.
I never thought I would say it, but this site needs an ignore function.
It came standard issue with your brain. Use it.
QuoteYou fail to realize that Heckert said this BEFORE Rosenhaus let it be known that Donte wants THAT much cash. I think even you weren't expecting Stallworth to be asking for that kind of top 5 WR in the NFL money.
It's funny...when Heckert or whoever else says something to the press that you like and agree with, they must be telling the truth. But any other time...they're liars. laugh
this is why your a moron...
you really think the Eagles were shocked by what Stallworth wants? honestly? are you that dumb.
and, it's easy to assume Heckert is telling the truth about the cap, because he's actually making himself look worse by saying what he said. it would be in his benefit to say, "we'd like to sign him, but we just can't due to our cap situation" instead, he's sticking the FO collective necks out even further by saying they could sign him if they want.
just get off it already.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 26, 2007, 10:33:35 PM
The Eagles chose to structure much of TO's bonus as a roster bonus so as to not delay the cap hit.
They did this for two reasons:
1. His volatile personality could cause him to be cut early in the contract, and lumping too much money into a signing bonus would put a ton of cap risk on the team in the future.
2. They had the cap room to do it that way.
1. is not true of Donte, and you better bet that if 2. is more true than you obviously believe, they will milk as much of this year's cap as possible.
That said, the minimum cap hit for any given deal is the bonus money divided by the years plus the minimum yearly salary. In this case, that would be less than $4 million.
You lose.
You're assuming Drew Rosenhaus is going to be friendly about these negotiations. It's all going to depend on the structure and language of the contract, that will determine how much more money they have to spend on other FA's, including thier own. It's going to take a little bit of coin to keep Thomas, Mikell, and Peterson here...all of which need to stay in order to keep the Eagles defense from being in total freefall in case of injury or just plain suck-ness.
IF Donte's hit is only 4 million, that leaves the Eagles at about...lets say 6 million according to current cap predictions. Now how much of that is set aside for the draft, how much of that is gained or lost when the salaries jump next year? How much can they get back by cutting Dhani and Jerome? I would think that if it was feasable to do all that and sign Stallworth, then they will do it. If not, obviously they know something we don't about what they can and can't do to improve the cap situation and get everything they need done. They KNOW they need Stallworth...if they don't resign him it's because they're some big evil FO, it's because they balanced the need of Stallworth vs. the money it wil ltake to keep him here, and other needs of the team.
Of course we still have no idea what (if any) plans they have for this off season....If it's possible for them to suprise us by throwing money like this at Stallworth, then I guess it's possible for them to sign a guy like Adelius Thomas or trade for someone instead of giving that cash to Stallworth. And of course it's possible they leave a lot of money on the table by signing middle teir defenders and retaining thier other FA's like Juqua Thomas and Mikell
Plan and simple...since this thread IS about the draft...if Stallworth is gone, I want Meachem.
If they keep him...draft all defense for the love of god, because chances are you'll lose one or more key backups on an already hole-filled defense, and we'll again depend on rookies to fill in and contribute.
I'm not looking forward to either situation.SunMo(thoguht it was igy, no caps staring sentences)-
Quoteand, it's easy to assume Heckert is telling the truth about the cap, because he's actually making himself look worse by saying what he said. it would be in his benefit to say, "we'd like to sign him, but we just can't due to our cap situation" instead, he's sticking the FO collective necks out even further by saying they could sign him if they want.
So...You're assuming he's telling the truth about how signing Stallworth would be easy to do by doing such and such with the cap, but it's making him look bad and sticking the FO's neck out even further? And doing that is to his benefit? Why would he say that they could easily get it done, and then NOT get it done? Just to make himself and the FO look bad when it doesn't happen? I'm sure they understand they'd piss off the entire fanbase by doing that.
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Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 10:51:58 PM
Plan and simple...since this thread IS about the draft...if Stallworth is gone, I want Meachem.
Hell no.
They already used this year's 4th rounder on Stallworth. Using any pick above that to "replace" him would be idiotic.
I can't help but think that this argument would be much more interesting if Stallworth had at least 39 catches last year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 26, 2007, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 26, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
Shaw PSU - 4.49
He will be nothing in the NFL. Nothing. I don't care what his 40 time is.
You have to be impressed with him playing DE at 230+ lbs and giving the effort he gave. I only saw 3 or 4 games last year, but he impressed me. It reminded of when Ike Reese had to play DE in a pinch and he held his own. This team needs to really improve LB depth to play special teams. I'll take a football player like that any day of the week.
This team needs to really improve LB depth to play special teams
they have a lot of linebackers and they all are special teamers
Quote from: troyhstewart on February 27, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 26, 2007, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 26, 2007, 06:02:03 PM
Shaw PSU - 4.49
He will be nothing in the NFL. Nothing. I don't care what his 40 time is.
You have to be impressed with him playing DE at 230+ lbs and giving the effort he gave. I only saw 3 or 4 games last year, but he impressed me. It reminded of when Ike Reese had to play DE in a pinch and he held his own. This team needs to really improve LB depth to play special teams. I'll take a football player like that any day of the week.
Ok, his best-case scenario is a white Ike Reese.
Landry ran a 4.35 or a 4.32 today. Can't remember which. Either way he did real good in the 40 times. Just bringing him up because he was talked about as a possible Eagles pick.
They won't trade up for a safety, and they'd have to trade up to get Landry. Dammit.
There were several safeties that showed good athleticism, especially some of the small school guys. I'm very curious to see where Griffin and Merriweather go. A DB is IMO the most likely area to address with the 1st round pick at this time.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 27, 2007, 05:28:49 AM
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2007, 10:51:58 PM
Plan and simple...since this thread IS about the draft...if Stallworth is gone, I want Meachem.
Hell no.
They already used this year's 4th rounder on Stallworth. Using any pick above that to "replace" him would be idiotic.
So assuming Stallworth is gone, you're prepared to go into the season without any ttype of deep threat? Brown has the speed, but will see double teams...Bloom? He'll return kicks, but won't see a lick of the field on offense.
I like Baskett and Avant, and they could possibly prove to be #2's in an offense with a star WR with some speed. But this offense doesn't have that, they have a damn good #2 WR in Reggie Brown. They'll need a guy like Meachem to burn some guys along side Brown, and if the Eagles have the opertunity to get a 6'4 WR that ran a sub 4.4 40 time, then I don't see a reason to pass that up. It's not like any defender they draft at the 26th spot will make a difference, thier track record picking defensive front 7 isn't much better then thier track record at picking WR's. And Meachem > Freddie Mitchell.
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Quote from: Munson on February 27, 2007, 10:07:28 PM
So assuming Stallworth is gone, you're prepared to go into the season without any ttype of deep threat? Brown has the speed, but will see double teams...Bloom? He'll return kicks, but won't see a lick of the field on offense.
If they draft any WR not named Calvin Johnson, they'll still go into this season without any ttype (sic) of deep threat. There is no way in hell a guy like Meachem could learn enough of the offense quickly to make a major impact this season. Besides, no receiver in the draft would be nearly the "deep threat" of Stallworth, who runs 4.4 on a bad day and has the moves to fake DB's out of their jocks. I can't imagine they couldn't find more a sure thing in free agency, and even if they can't, the team's better off using the hell out of Westbrook than looking to the draft for an impact player.
Quote from: Munson on February 27, 2007, 10:07:28 PM
I like Baskett and Avant, and they could possibly prove to be #2's in an offense with a star WR with some speed. But this offense doesn't have that, they have a damn good #2 WR in Reggie Brown. They'll need a guy like Meachem to burn some guys along side Brown, and if the Eagles have the opertunity to get a 6'4 WR that ran a sub 4.4 40 time, then I don't see a reason to pass that up. It's not like any defender they draft at the 26th spot will make a difference, thier track record picking defensive front 7 isn't much better then thier track record at picking WR's. And Meachem > Freddie Mitchell.
Meachem has proven precisely dick. You're talking about him like he's a sure thing slam dunk super awesome #1 deep threat in the history of the NFL. Get this through your extremely dense skull: EVEN IF THEY DRAFT A WR EARLY, HE WILL NOT PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE OFFENSE THIS SEASON. With all the investments they've made on the offensive line and in Donovan and Westbrook and with L.J. in a contract year, the offense should be able to be adequate without Stallworth, as compared to the defense, which needs a TON of help. Defensive players have a much better chance of making an impact of some sort in year one, and the Eagles need help on the defense very badly. Drafting a WR in round one would be idiotic.
And there is absolutely no way to know Meachem > Freddie Mitchell. Assuming that sort of thing is part of the reason you're a dumbass about this.
Brown has the speed, but will see double teams
has the speed to do what?...he certainly isnt a burner
reggie brown does not warrant double teams...which is precisely why you need stallworth...he is that player
baskett is a borderline nfl player much less a number 2 guy...and avant is at best a solid possesion guy
do you purposely say things that are the opposite of true or are you really that dumb
Another reason you don't have to double Reggie is that, even should the pass get by the defender, he can be counted on to drop the pass at a high enough percentage that you might as well not waste the second defender on him.
Maybe the Eagles are planning on running the ball 35 times a game?
Hey, it could happen.
:D
that would be nice...but even with their great offensive line and the gawd westbrook to run the ball you have to have some threat of a passing game...and aj feely throwing to hank baskett and jason avant isnt gonna get it done
William Thomas to Cleveland for Jerevicous and their 2nd round pick. :paranoid
I found this three round mock on DraftDaddy. Needless to say, I would get wood:
Round 1:Quote
26. Philadelphia Eagles – Michael Griffin SS/FS Texas
-Michael Lewis is a free agent and Brian Dawkins is growing long in the tooth. Griffin is a guy who helped his stock at the Senior Bowl and he would be an ideal fit for the Eagles in this spot.
Round 2:Quote
57. Philadelphia Eagles – Brian Leonard HB/FB Rutgers
-Leonard's a 1st round athlete playing a 2nd day position. Leonard's fall stops here as he'd provide an excellent compliment to Westbrook and wound fit right in as a full-back/h-back in Philly's west coast offense. Leonard is too good of a value here and a guy Reid will love.
Round 3:Quote
90. Philadelphia Eagles – Rufus Alexander OLB Oklahoma
-Dhani Jones is below average and Gocong was injured last year. Alexander will compete for a job with both Gaither and Gocong.
that's a pretty damn good scenario if you ask me.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on February 28, 2007, 01:03:24 PM
I found this three round mock on DraftDaddy. Needless to say, I would get wood:
Round 1:
Quote
26. Philadelphia Eagles – Michael Griffin SS/FS Texas
-Michael Lewis is a free agent and Brian Dawkins is growing long in the tooth. Griffin is a guy who helped his stock at the Senior Bowl and he would be an ideal fit for the Eagles in this spot.
Round 2:
Quote
57. Philadelphia Eagles – Brian Leonard HB/FB Rutgers
-Leonard's a 1st round athlete playing a 2nd day position. Leonard's fall stops here as he'd provide an excellent compliment to Westbrook and wound fit right in as a full-back/h-back in Philly's west coast offense. Leonard is too good of a value here and a guy Reid will love.
Round 3:
Quote
90. Philadelphia Eagles – Rufus Alexander OLB Oklahoma
-Dhani Jones is below average and Gocong was injured last year. Alexander will compete for a job with both Gaither and Gocong.
Yep. Wood.
Yeah, that's almost as good as getting Bunkley AND Justice. And Max Jean-Gilles. I'm so excited.
post combine fox sports mock
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6514944
26. Eagles Anthony Spencer DE Purdue Senior NR 26th / NR
Andy Reid and co. like to build their drafts from the inside out. Spencer will fit perfectly in that tradition. The former Purdue star will more than likely play DE at the next level, but could probably be used as a linebacker as well. He ran an impressive 4.7 40-yard-dash, and benched 30 reps of 225 pounds at the Combine.
Him and Gocong will be quite the combo!
the big black NFL network analyst combine dude said Spencer reminded him of Trent Cole.
Is Spencer black?
Murp that guy is annoying as all hell. He is like a Jabba the Hut Stephen A Smith
spencer = not white
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 01, 2007, 08:57:46 PM
Murp that guy is annoying as all hell. He is like a Jabba the Hut Stephen A Smith
haha, yeah he is annoying.
hes black but vanilla...if the eagles took him first round id stab myself
duly noted
I have no idea what igy means by "vanilla" because he's just about the worst black talker in the world...but it isn't like Spencer is Baskett shaded.
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his game is vanilla
you and your moms vanilla
He makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2007, 05:36:26 PM
He makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X
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Recent mock Eagles picks:
3/3 - Great Blue North Report = Lawrence Timmons
3/2 - Scouts Notebook = Aaron Ross
3/2 - NFL Draft Pro = Aaron Ross
3/2 - Draft King = Robert Meachem
3/2 - Draft Notebook = Lawrence Timmons
3/1 - Draft Ace = Kenny Irons
3/1 - Draft Daddy = Brandon Meriweather
3/1 - Pro Football Talk = Brandon Meriweather
2/28 - Huddle Geeks = Fred Bennett
2/27 - CollegeFootballNews.com (Scout.com) = Jarvis Moss
2/24 - Consensus Draft Services = Michael Griffin
im not sure if this is in the list easy just posted but heres nfl.coms pat kirwan
http://nfl.com/draft/story/10038014
26. Philadelphia: Aaron Ross, CB, Texas -- The run on corners has been on during the second half of the first round and the Eagles could use one, as well as a safety and a linebacker.
I compiled the results from the combine into a spreadsheet for anyone that is interested. I have individual pages for each position, although I didn't feel compelled to include punters, kickers or long snappers.;D I was probably inconsistent in how I listed schools from position to position as well.(Florida St, FSU)Type enough of the crap in you get to forgetting how you did it before.
You can download it here(Never used this service, hope it works okay.):
http://savefile.com/files/536590
I use a freeware office suite that didn't like sorting things with the symbols for feet or inches, so the broad jump results are listed in inches. :-\
I read that the Patriots are interested in both Patrick Willis and Brian Leonard. bastiches.
And they have two firsts, which means they could easily "reach" and grab Leonard well ahead of when anyone would consider selecting him.
lol @ taking Leonard in the 1st.
Yahoo Sport's latest mock:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhE_W6ayBASYKi1iSsuzG5JDubYF?slug=jm-mockdraft030707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhE_W6ayBASYKi1iSsuzG5JDubYF?slug=jm-mockdraft030707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Quote26. Philadelphia Eagles – Dwayne Bowe, wide receiver, LSU. The Eagles have not taken an offensive skill-position player in the first round of the draft since 2001 when they selected wide receiver Freddie Mitchell. There should be no fear taking a receiver here as the size, speed and big-play ability of Bowe would offer returning starting quarterback Donovan McNabb an excellent vertical threat to go alongside possession receiver Reggie Brown and tight end L.J. Smith. They have young players at both linebacker and safety who they plan to use as replacements to Chris Gocong and Sean Considine, who departed via free agency.
They now have Willis going at #11 to the Bills.
Quote26. Philadelphia Eagles – Dwayne Bowe, wide receiver, LSU. The Eagles have not taken an offensive skill-position player in the first round of the draft since 2001 when they selected wide receiver Freddie Mitchell. There should be no fear taking a receiver here as the size, speed and big-play ability of Bowe would offer returning starting quarterback Donovan McNabb an excellent vertical threat to go alongside possession receiver Reggie Brown and tight end L.J. Smith. They have young players at both linebacker and safety who they plan to use as replacements to Chris Gocong and Sean Considine, who departed via free agency.
That is incredibly accurate.
We can only wish...
Last seven #26 picks:
Quote2000: Erik Flowers
2001: Jamar Fletcher
2002: Lito Sheppard
2003: Kwame Harris
2004: Chris Perry
2005: Chris Spencer
2006: John McCargo
Puts the eagles FO in a better light, doesn't it?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 13, 2007, 11:23:25 AM
Last seven #26 picks:
Quote2000: Erik Flowers
2001: Jamar Fletcher
2002: Lito Sheppard
2003: Kwame Harris
2004: Chris Perry
2005: Chris Spencer
2006: John McCargo
theres a great kwame harris video in the youtube thread.
I saw that vid matty, crazy part he was a beast in college. I knew his brothers back when he went pro. Things havent exactly worked out in SF as they thought it would.
Sooo recent Draft countdown mock- updated yesturday....
Quote
26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
MICHAEL GRIFFIN S | Texas |
After replacing Donte' Stallworth by signing Kevin Curtis the Eagles are free to address another position in round one and based on value and need Michael Griffin would appear to be the best fit.
Quote57. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Ray McDonald DE | Florida |
Despite all of the picks and money they've invested in the d-line help is still needed up front.
Quote90. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Trent Edwards QB | Stanford |
Donovan McNabb just cannot seem to stay healthy and Jeff Garcia has bolted as a free agent.
And my favortie part about Trent Edwards...
QuoteSuffered from compartment syndrome (a painful condition usually results from trauma that compresses muscles, nerves and blood vessels) as a freshman and spent ten days in the hospital, five in intensive care...Had his senior season ended prematurely when he broke his foot in October
Kiper's latest mock has the Eagles taking USC WR Steve Smith. Awful....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 18, 2007, 02:33:08 PM
Kiper's latest mock has the Eagles taking USC WR Steve Smith. Awful....
In the first?
That is just about the only pick where Tim Crowder is a better option. :-D
yeah, and three of his next four picks were Aaron Ross (NO), Reggie Nelson (NE) and Dwayne Bowe (SD)
PFT's latest mock has the Eagles taking Sidney Rice. It's also the first mock I've seen that doesn't have the Raiders taking Russell (who falls to Cleveland at #3)...
Marshall Faulk threw up a cupcake last night when talking about the Niners' draft plans.
He said Ted Ginn Jr. in the first round, Michael Griffen in the 2nd, and Anthony Spencer in the 3rd. I suppose the Eagles would like to get LaRon Landry in the 5th also, but he just might not be there.
farging ghey.
Faulk is the worst analyst on TV besides Irvin, and you expect that with Irvin
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 21, 2007, 08:22:27 AM
Faulk is the worst analyst on TV besides Irvin, and you expect that with Irvin
The worst part was that it was all scripted and there was no challenge about the players very possibly not being available to fit into Marshall's ridiculous plan.
Anyway, I'm back to not watching anymore draft coverage now.
Carucci's latest from NFL.com
Quote
26. Philadelphia: Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
The 6-0, 193-pound Ross has the size and strength to effectively jam receivers at the line. He also has plenty of speed to hold up well in man-to-man coverage, which should allow him to make an immediate impact.
He had Griffin, Nelson, and Timmons going after this pick, all of whom I would rather the Birds take, but I wouldn't be upset with Ross.
Kirwan's updated mock has us going CB as well.
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26. **Philadelphia: Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas -- The Eagles need a corner and a safety to go a long with a top-flight outside linebacker. They signed Kevin Curtis this week to eliminate the wide receiver need and Houston falls to Philadelphia because the Giants went for a linebacker.
Between the two, I think I'd rather have Ross, who isn't as polished, but has much more athleticism.
there isnt a position id rather have less in round one than a cb....makes no sense whatsoever...they are set at cornerback for the next five years
now safety....thats a different story
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
there isnt a position id rather have less in round one than a cb....makes no sense whatsoever...they are set at cornerback for the next five years
now safety....thats a different story
Why? Sheldon is the answer at safety. Duh.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
there isnt a position id rather have less in round one than a cb
WR?
DE?
K/P?
QB?
FB?
Quote
Former Louisville RB Bush has surgery on leg
NFL.com wire reports
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (March 21, 2007) -- Former Louisville running back Michael Bush underwent surgery March 20 on the leg he broke during the first game of last season.
Bush, who entered the upcoming NFL draft as a junior, had a new rod inserted and was expected to be released from a Louisville hospital on March 21, spokesman Rocco Gasparro said.
Gasparro said Bush sought another medical opinion when his bone didn't heal quickly enough. He's expected to be out another couple of months and won't be able to work out March 26 during Louisville's Pro Day, Gasparro said.
Bush decided to skip his senior season, despite playing in only one game as a junior. In his sophomore year, Bush ran for 1,183 yards and an NCAA-leading 23 touchdowns.
He scored three touchdowns in the first half of the season-opener against Kentucky last year before breaking his leg early in the second half.
The Cardinals went on to finish 12-1, beating Wake Forest in the Orange Bowl.
Ouch. I wonder is he'll even get drafted.....
i'd use a 4th or 5th on that gamble. maybe a 3rd!
WR? - would be retarded because of the stallworth non signing but its still much more of a need than cb
DE? - not a need this year but its going to be a big time need sooner rather than later....so having a young there would be >>>> a young corner
K/P? - doesnt count...but you win
QB? - see DE
FB? - BRIAN LEONARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2007, 02:32:16 PM
WR? - would be retarded because of the stallworth non signing but its still much more of a need than cb
DE? - not a need this year but its going to be a big time need sooner rather than later....so having a young there would be >>>> a young corner
K/P? - doesnt count...but you win
QB? - see DE
FB? - BRIAN LEONARD!!!!!!!
I don't understand how CB isn't a decent need relative to other positions. I know LB and S would be better ways to address the defense right now. I also know you're with me when I say that one safety formerly known as "gawd" is aging and the other is really hoping to someday be average... so having more/better CB's helps. Also, James is on a 1-year deal, Joselio Hanson's a nice reserve at best, Lito's often-injured, and Sheldon has some things to work on. So, if he's the best player on the board, why not a CB?
WR would be retarded because they signed Curtis to a long-term deal and he's the oldest WR on the team.
DE IN THE FIRST ROUND would be odd because they're theoretically 4-deep already.
QB IN THE FIRST ROUND? Come on. Who would be there that would add more value than a CB?
Brian Leonard in the first round? No.
I don't understand how CB isn't a decent need relative to other positions
remember im talking first round...the eagles could use a young cb to groom at the #3 spot...but thats not a position i want in the first round
and youre arguing the others like i said they were top needs...i only said they are more pressing needs than a thrid cb
cb is the only position on the team where the starters are both quality and young...cant say that about any other position...therefore it comes last imo
The problem is that CB is one position where the best players are actually usually high draft picks. Pretty much every #1 CB in the league was a 1st round pick, whereas other positions can be addressed with good scouting in the later rounds. This is mostly due to CB being a position that measurables are very important... and that's where I've said Sheldon isn't quite there... and he was a "reach" as a 2nd rounder.
The problem is that CB is one position where the best players are actually usually high draft picks.
they wouldnt be looking for the 'best' cornerbacks this year...theyd be looking for another rod hood...unless youre suggesting they look for a starting corner to replace sheldon or lito.....and imo theres no need for that this year
But, Sheldon's getting moved to safety, I heard.
Ha.
Maybe this is the year the Eagles finally draft a LB in the first. :-X
I know it won't happen, but I would love for them to draft Lawrence Timmons. If not him I would like to see Griffin or Merriweather.
Is there anyway Dawk can play SS? This years draft seems to be deep at the FS position.
Splitting hairs between FS and SS is more retarded than Radio or Forrest.
A good safety can play both positions. farg... Dawkins could play any of the farging LB positions better than the iceholes we're throwing out there now. Hell, no farging doubt we over-analyze the LB spots too.... "but he's more of a WIL backer". Shut the farg up already and ask if the boy can play some farging football. Christ.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 21, 2007, 09:23:17 PM
Splitting hairs between FS and SS is more retarded than Radio or Forrest.
A good safety can play both positions. farg... Dawkins could play any of the farging LB positions better than the iceholes we're throwing out there now. Hell, no farging doubt we over-analyze the LB spots too.... "but he's more of a WIL backer". Shut the farg up already and ask if the boy can play some farging football. Christ.
Whatever dude. How many little guys play SS or SAM? Typically you want a guy with some size at those positions since they are important in run support.
Dhani has size. Trotter has size. How was our LB corps against the run last year?
Willis ran a 4.37 yesterday. Forget that pipe dream :'(
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 22, 2007, 05:58:32 AM
Dhani has size. Trotter has size. How was our LB corps against the run last year?
I said SAM idiot Trotter is a Mike, anyhow Dhani is small for a SAM. He may be listed as 230 but that is a definate stretch.
Keep on keeping on, buddy. I guess we'll just convert Reagor to SAM and all our problems will be solved.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 22, 2007, 08:42:45 AM
Willis ran a 4.37 yesterday. Forget that pipe dream :'(
TRADE UP FOR HIS ASS.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 21, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
there isnt a position id rather have less in round one than a cb....makes no sense whatsoever...they are set at cornerback for the next five years
now safety....thats a different story
Sheldon and Lito are among the best starting corner duos in the league, but they're not exactly durable--Rod Hood started 14 games in the last 3 years. Unless you trust Will James to start 4-5 games a year (and God knows who to be our nickel back 4-5 games a year), we need to take a CB on day one.
i guess i could live with that we were talking about first round tho
yahoos new mock
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-mockdraft032207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
26. Philadelphia Eagles – LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. They have All-Proquarterback Donovan McNabb coming back off of injury and need to give him a few more weapons. However, there is also another vibe surrounding this choice that the decision-makers feel comfortable with young receivers like Hank Baskett and Jason Avant, so they could turn their attention to talented, all-around running back Brian Leonard.
25. Philadelphia: Miami (Fla.) DL Baraka Atkins
Didnt Atkins get shot?
I like Brian Leonard, but if they want to take him in the first, I sure as hell hope they trade back a few notches, maybe even into the early 2nd.
Everyone here knows how I feel about Leonard. But using a first on him would surpass every stupid draft pick this team has ever made.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 25, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
Everyone here knows how I feel about Leonard. But using a first on him would surpass every stupid draft pick this team has ever made.
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Quote from: rjs246 on March 25, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
Everyone here knows how I feel about Leonard. But using a first on him would surpass every stupid draft pick this team has ever made.
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Besides the Yahoo one that has the Eagles taking Bowe, here's some other mocks that were updated since the Curtis signing:
3/23 Consensus Draft Services = Sidney Rice
3/23 Draft King = Ted Ginn Jr.
3/22 Pat Kirwan (NFL.com) = Marcus McCauley (who isn't a 1st-rounder in any other mock)
3/22 NFL Draft Countdown = Michael Griffin
3/22 NFL Draft Scout = Dwayne Jarrett
3/21 Scouts Notebook = LaMarr Woodley (another one that isn't a 1st-rounder in any other mock)
3/21 NFL Draft Pro (Steuber) = Michael Griffin
3/21 PFT = Sidney Rice
3/19 Huddle Geeks = Sidney Rice
3/18 Draft Ace = Jon Beason
Everyone here knows how I feel about Leonard
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I would be farging pissed if the Birds took a WR in the first, but none of the "first round talent" WRs would make me as mad as them picking Ginn. Of all of them, he is the least NFL ready receiver, which means he wouldn't touch the field this year, given the track record of receivers in this system. He could do punts and kick offs, and that's about it.
i would kill to get ginn at 26
Sinorice Moss......what?
pretty much...the birds again need that kind of player and ginn would be an epic steal at 26
I want Patrick Willis. I want to have his manbabies.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 25, 2007, 04:18:30 PM
Everyone here knows how I feel about Leonard
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:-D
With the compensatory picks in place, here's what the Eagles have:
1st = #26
2nd = #57
3rd = #90
5th = #162
6th = #201
7th = #236
Draftdaddy's updated mock:
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26. Philadelphia Eagles - CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh
The Eagles value CB as a priority position in the draft and need someone to step in at nickel right away.
With Spikes in, LB doesn't seem like as big a need. Revis would be a solid nickel corner, and can play free safety. He's also a pretty good punt returner.
Jamie Dukes, who I think is a douche:
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26. Philadelphia: Reggie Nelson, S, Florida -- Replacing receiver Donte' Stallworth with Kevin Curtis allows Andy Reid to bring another reptile to the secondary. Nelson has the natural instincts of Ed Reed. Eagles safety Michael Lewis fell out of favor last season as Sean Considine took his job. Nelson could be a replacement for Considine and ultimate replacement for Brian Dawkins.
Nelson would be farging sweet.
they have to go safety, there's not really an option
Yes.
I still want to see S, LB and CB as the first three picks, S first.
Quote from: SunMo on March 28, 2007, 09:44:34 AM
they have to go safety, there's not really an option
You just guaranteed they go DT or OL.
they need DE more than anything...who are their starting DE's in two years?...it looks scary...id love to see moss at their spot
that said id love any of the big three (landry will obviously be gone) safties...i think merriweather will be there...the question is will nelson or griffin be around at 26
they also need lb real bad...i fargin love timmons (beason too)
also love meachem and i would think real hard about taking him if hes there tho i dont think he will be
thats my short list and i would be estatic with any of the above...i dont think safety is the only option here by any means
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2007, 10:04:30 AM
they need DE more than anything...who are their starting DE's in two years?...it looks scary...id love to see moss at their spot
that said id love any of the big three (landry will obviously be gone) safties...i think merriweather will be there...the question is will nelson or griffin be around at 26
they also need lb real bad...i fargin love timmons (beason too)
also love meachem and i would think real hard about taking him if hes there tho i dont think he will be
thats my short list and i would be estatic with any of the above...i dont think safety is the only option here by any means
Totally agree... although Meachem at #26 would probably piss me off. Not because I don't like Meachem... they just need to get some top level talent on D.
okoye is gong to be the best D lineman is this year's draft and he's only 20 years old. and he already graduated. dude is a beast and smart.
but he's way long gone by the time we pick.
Whats everyone's impression of Adam Carriker? Apparently he was at the Novacare complex for a pro workout.
you mean adam 'motor that never stops' carriker?
(http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics15/200/GO/GOGILOLZYZZSMMI.20060413174940.JPG)
Don't know much about Carriker, except that he was making every offensive lineman they put in front of him his bitch at the senior bowl and it's practices. Won't make it past 18 I'm thinking.
NFL.com says:
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OVERVIEW
One of the Big 12's most dominant defensive players, Carriker has drawn favorable comparisons to New England Patriots standout Richard Seymour. Both have the explosive burst to penetrate the backfield and the range to chase down ball carriers along the perimeter.
The team's 2004 Lifter of the Year, not only does Carriker have impressive strength and an imposing frame, but has also excelled in the classroom. He is a three-time All-Big 12 Commissioner's Academic Honor Roll member.
Carriker was a standout quarterback and rush end at Kennewick High School in Washington. Even though his team did not win a game his senior year, he still earned second-team All-Big Nine Conference honors on defense and played in the state all-star game. Carriker recorded 15 sacks, five pass break-ups, four forced fumbles and 25 tackles for loss in his only season as a defensive end.
He was a three-year starter at quarterback and served as a team captain three years. He ran track one year and earned All-Conference baseball honors three times as a designated hitter and first baseman. Academically, he was named to the Principal's list.
Carriker attended Big Red Football School in 2001, and also visited Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State before choosing to enroll at Nebraska in 2002, spending the season as a defensive end on the scout team. A high ankle sprain in 2003 would sideline the reserve defensive end for three games. In limited action in nine contests, he made three tackles (2 solos) with a 9-yard sack and three pressures.
His ankle problems continued in 2004, which cost him one game of action. He would go on to play in 10 games, starting four at right defensive end before shifting to left end for the final four games. He produced 36 tackles (19 solos) with three sacks, seven stops behind the line of scrimmage and seven pressures.
Carriker started all year at "Base" (right) defensive end in 2005. He earned first-team All-Big 12 Conference honors and was named the team's Defensive MVP. He ranked seventh on the team with 43 tackles (26 solos), but he led the conference and ranked 15th in the nation with 9½ sacks. His 17 stops for losses were a team-high and placed him fourth in the league. He added 21 pressures with three pass deflections and recovered one fumble.
In 2006, Carriker was named All-Big 12 Conference first-team, Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year, All-American third-team and team Defensive MVP. He started every game at "Base" defensive end, finishing with 52 tackles (24 solos), as he led the team with seven sacks and ranked second with 16 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He picked off a pass and deflected 12 others while also blocking a kick. He was also credited with 12 quarterback pressures.
In 45 games at Nebraska, Carriker started 34 times. He collected 134 tackles (71 solos) with 20½ sacks for minus-156 yards and 41 stops for losses totaling 184 yards. He posted 43 quarterback pressures and recovered one fumble. He also batted away six passes, picked off another and blocked one kick.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist, good bubble and decent thickness in his thighs and calves ... Lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit ... Keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size, allowing him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams ... Has the functional change-of-direction agility to work his way down the line ... Demonstrates a punishing hand punch and excellent overall strength to easily handle multiple blockers, stack and control ... Plants his foot into the ground to anchor at the point of attack and is quite effective at shooting the gaps when working in-line ... Leader by example type, but the staff says he will not only play with pain, but simply refuses to come off the field when hurt ... Has a strong work ethic and is a good program type who does not hesitate to mentor the younger players ... Just adequate coming off the line, but uses his long arm reach and strength to gain advantage out of his stance ... Might be a better fit for tackle due to his lack of edge quickness, but he has the strength and size to destroy interior blockers on contact and bull rush with consistency ... Shows valid instincts and great vision to quickly locate and run to the ball ... Aware of blocking schemes and does a good job of locking out blockers and locating the ball at the X's ... Solid wrap-up tackler whose strength lets him quickly disengage from blocks ... Has the lower-body power in his anchor to neutralize double-team action, consistently stacking while holding ground ... Has enough speed to slip off some blocks and uses his hands well to keep the opponent off his body ... His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed ... Also has the feet to adjust on the move ... Shows good desire and effort in his lateral pursuit (more on short-area play than going long distances) ... Does a nice job of neutralizing the outside run and forcing it back inside ... His long arms let him engulf ball carriers, showing good strike form to wrap, secure and take down ... Presses the corner well and uses his strength to compensate for adequate speed in attempts to pressure the pocket ... Gives a good second effort in attempts to disengage ... Lacks the extra burst to close on the quarterback, but will collide and push blockers back into the pocket ... Has enough functional quickness to pursue from the backside.
Negatives: More of a power-oriented pass rusher than an explosive edge rusher, making him a better candidate to play one-gap as a defensive tackle ... Has a strong hand punch, but needs to recoil and set quicker when engaging blockers ... Also must keep his hands active; he lacks ideal chop-and-rip moves when trying to disengage ... Lacks an array of moves as a pass rusher and is more of a "meat and potatoes" type who prefers to punish the blocker rather than try to avoid ... Might be at maximum growth potential; the added bulk on his frame in 2006 impeded his explosion off the snap.
Compares To: Richard Seymour, New England -- Carriker is more suited to play like Seymour does in the 3-4 alignment -- out on the edge as a run stuffer and inside as a pass rusher. He has outstanding strength and size, but needs to develop better hand usage in his attempts to disengage. He does a good job of splitting double-teams and does a good job of keeping his feet when moving through trash. He won't spend most of his time chasing down quarterbacks; he doesn't have the explosive closing speed. But he is very effective at pushing blockers back into the pocket. With his size/strength combination, using him as anything outside of the way Seymour plays would be wasting his athletic ability.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
you mean adam 'motor that never stops' carriker?
(http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics15/200/GO/GOGILOLZYZZSMMI.20060413174940.JPG)
AGH! Just say no.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 28, 2007, 11:30:20 AM
Quotegood bubble
As much as we make fun of that phrase, I'm still not sure what they mean. Is it his calves, buttocks or something else?
Butt.
My Draft predicitons, 2007.
Expanded to the entire league:
Every team in the league will draft a bunch of large, strong, fast men. Most will be black. There will be wild speculation and judgements made after the draft based on some pre-season workouts. 80% of the draft will wash out, mostly in order of the round that they were drafted in, despite some notable exceptions that will be used endlessly by sportscasters and drunks.
Teams who draft in the first 10 picks will mostly continue to not prosper due to the high risk/reward ratio of the salaries. Teams who draft in the end of the first round will continue do prosper due to the high ability/salary ratio.
I will continued to be bored until August, where I will watch Tivo'd pre-season games numerous times to 'analyze' Eagles draft picks.
I will attempt to alleviate this boredom by attending baseball games, but mostly will just get drunk.
OK, I've just decided how I want the Eagles draft to go (this will change 100x by draft day):
26 - Michael Griffin (S, Texas)
57 - Brandon Siler (LB, Florida)
90 - Fred Bennett (CB, South Carolina)
162 - Kevin Boss (TE, Western Oregon)
201 - Paul Soliai (DT, Utah)
236 - Nate Ilaoa (RB, Hawaii)
Why waste a fifth round draft pick on a tight end this year when they're likely going to have to spend a 1 or a 2 next year when L.J. leaves?
Just curious.
Kevin Boss projects as a starter*.
*when Matt Schobel's the other TE on the roster.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 31, 2007, 04:51:30 PM
Why waste a fifth round draft pick on a tight end this year when they're likely going to have to spend a 1 or a 2 next year when L.J. leaves?
Just curious.
Boss is Schobel's replacement, the dude next year will be LJ's.
TE controversey!!
does anyone read the chris steuber section over on PE? i wish i didn't but every now and then I have to because it makes me so angry. who is this guy and what makes him knowledgable enough to have his own section? he seems like a normal everyday schmuck. for example, he thinks that the bears are going to trade briggs to the skins for the 6th pick, just so they can trade the pick away because accordng to him, the bears have cap issues.
Every draft expert starts out as a schmuck, and most of them stay that way.
The sentiment is that he is in fact a normal everyday schmuck. I believe he does have some kind of affiliation with some Mock Draft site, not that it makes him an expert.
Quote from: PPinDC on April 04, 2007, 12:48:54 PM
I believe he does have some kind of affiliation with some Mock Draft site
Yes, it's the site he created to share his mock drafting genius with the world.
his bio (http://www.nfldraftpro.com/steuber.html)
QuoteChris Steuber is an NFL Draft Analyst and has been covering the NFL Draft since 1999. Steuber founded NFL Draft Pro.com in 2007.
Not only does Chris provide excellent coverage of the draft, but he's known for his accuracy and great knowledge of projecting NFL Draft prospects. Steuber has written for multiple web sites and has appeared on various radio programs giving his analysis on the draft.
Steuber provides all the information on the site 100% free to the public and allows fans to talk about the draft on the sites Fan Forum. Chris makes himself available to fans via email at: csteuber@nfldraftpro.com, as well as the Contact Chris page.
In 2006, Chris covered the NFL Draft for PhiladelphiaEagles.com. For the Eagles, Steuber provided featured articles, analysis, draft projections, and discussed the draft on the .com sites Eagles Live radio program.
Chris will cover the 2007 NFL Draft for PhiladelphiaEagles.com. His coverage begins on March 1, 2007.
Chris Steuber is available for radio, print and television interviews. To set up an interview please e-mail csteuber@nfldraftpro.com.
VARIOUS RADIO PROGRAMS! MULTIPLE WEB SITES! hahahaha
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
you mean adam 'motor that never stops' carriker?
(http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics15/200/GO/GOGILOLZYZZSMMI.20060413174940.JPG)
that creeps me out, looks like he still has all his baby teeth or something.
Steuber was responsible for this gem:
QuoteIs Reggie Brown The Next Chad Johnson?
by Chris Steuber, Drafthype.com
Wednesday, January 4, 2006
After every National Football League season, the talk is usually about predictions on who will win the league's MVP award, or which team improved the most, or even who deserves to win Coach of the Year. But I want to shift my attention to a different direction - comparing rookies to veterans.
I want to recognize one player from the Class of 2005, Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Reggie Brown. What I am about to detail will probably make Philadelphia fans say, "This dude is crazy!" But hear me out before you judge my motive. I am going to compare Brown to Cincinnati Bengals star Chad Johnson.
Yes, Chad Johnson, the man who wears fake gold teeth on game day. The man who routinely comes up with more dance moves than Philadelphia's abandoned son Terrell Owens. That's who I am comparing the Eagles' future receiving star to.
I am not only going to compare the two players as athletes, but I am going to evaluate their up-bringing and the road they took to the National Football League. You will see that they compare in many ways.
Every athlete needs a role model to look up to, and luckily for Brown and Johnson they didn't have to look too far. Both of these athletes had the luxury of having NFL players in their family. Reggie had his cousin Jamie Henderson, who played defensive back for the New York Jets, and Chad had two cousins, Keyshawn Johnson (Dallas Cowboys) and Samari Rolle (Baltimore Ravens), who are currently playing in the NFL.
Brown and Johnson were both outstanding high school players, and starred for their respective teams. However, they both had their obstacles to overcome as they furthered their playing careers.
Johnson struggled academically and started his collegiate football career at Santa Monica (CA) Community College, after spending his freshman year at Langston (OK) University. Johnson did not play football at Langston University.
While at SMCC, Johnson played two years, 1997 and 1999. He sat out the 1998 season to concentrate on academics. After the '99 season, Johnson transferred to Oregon State. He didn't join the team until August 2000, but it didn't take long for him to make an impact, collecting 37 receptions for 807 yards and eight touchdowns in his only season as a Beaver.
Brown didn't follow the same path as Johnson, but he had his own obstacles to overcome. A superstar in the state of Georgia, Brown attended the University of Georgia where a lot of expectations were placed upon him.
After seeing limited playing time his freshman year, Brown was ready to emerge in his sophomore season. During the fourth game of the season, against Arkansas, he suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. He missed the rest of the season.
In 2003, Brown's junior season, he started only six games, but it was in 2004 when the Bulldogs finally got a glimpse of his potential. He hauled in 49 receptions for 662 yards and three touchdowns. Scouts were anxious to see Brown perform in his senior season, as they expected him to continue his progression as a receiver. They weren't disappointed, after he posted 53 receptions for 860 yards and six touchdowns.
Well, let's see, after Johnson's final season at Oregon State he had 37 receptions for 807 yards and eight touchdowns, while Brown had 53 receptions for 860 yards and six touchdowns.
At the NFL Scouting Combine, where scouts and NFL executives meet to pick out the best slab of beef coming from the ranch, Johnson measured in at 6-foot-1 and 192-pounds. Brown measured in at 6-foot-1, 196-pounds.
A receiver's speed is always a concern to scouts, and for these two, their times were almost identical. Johnson ran a less than stellar 4.56 in the 40-yard dash. Brown bettered that mark by a hair, as he managed a 4.55.
It seems like a long time ago, but back in 2001, Johnson was a second round selection of the Bengals. He was the 36th overall pick. Coincidentally, four years later, Brown was also taken in the second round - 35th overall.
During the 2001 season for Cincinnati, Johnson fractured his left clavicle. Being a competitor, he bounced back and played in 12 games for the Bengals. Johnson contributed 28 receptions for 329 yards and one touchdown.
This past season with Philadelphia, Brown played in all 16 games, but didn't see much playing time, being pinned behind T.O. and Greg Lewis. Once T.O. started his whole soap opera, Brown eventually started 12 games. In those games, Brown didn't disappoint, collecting an Eagles single season rookie reception record of 43 for 571 yards and four touchdowns.
Both players overcame obstacles in their rookie seasons. For Johnson, the injury made him stronger, as he hit the weight room harder, giving him an edge on the field. Brown will also learn from the controversy he faced this past season in Philadelphia, and will become a better player for having to go through that experience.
I know you can't tell if one player will end up being like another player just because they have similar stats, stature, and background, but if you're an Eagles fan it gives you something to look forward too.
If you have any comments regarding this article, contact Chris Steuber, NFL Draft Analyst at: csteuber@drafthype.com..
no way two people on the planet both think reggie brown is the next chad johnson
so thats where phreak got his crazy notion
or
this steuber cat IS phreak
Steuber
(http://www.nfldraftpro.com/images/chrissmaller1.jpg)
Well....he looks like a freak.
I think the Eagles WR's are very much like Arizona's, who no one ever rips on. Sure that team did horrible, but no one blamed the passing game.
i was just lurking on tate and came across this dandy
ha
Quote from: phattymatty on April 04, 2007, 12:42:56 PM
does anyone read the chris steuber section over on PE? i wish i didn't but every now and then I have to because it makes me so angry. who is this guy and what makes him knowledgable enough to have his own section? he seems like a normal everyday schmuck. for example, he thinks that the bears are going to trade briggs to the skins for the 6th pick, just so they can trade the pick away because accordng to him, the bears have cap issues.
(matty's response...)
So you think Chicago will trade Briggs for the 6th pick, and then trade that pick away?
I'm starting to think you might secretly be Dan Snyder.
:-D
Quote from: phattymatty on April 04, 2007, 01:25:10 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
you mean adam 'motor that never stops' carriker?
(http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics15/200/GO/GOGILOLZYZZSMMI.20060413174940.JPG)
that creeps me out, looks like he still has all his baby teeth or something.
Maybe it's the fact that he looks like a zombie having a really, really good day.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2007, 02:50:58 PM
I think the Eagles WR's are very much like Arizona's, who no one ever rips on. Sure that team did horrible, but no one blamed the passing game.
i was just lurking on tate and came across this dandy
That makes a ton of sense. Kevin Curtis and Larry Fitzgerald are basically the same player.
Texas CB Aaron Ross (projected late 1st, early 2nd) will visit the Eagles according to the Cincinnati Enquirer
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 04, 2007, 02:19:53 PM
no way two people on the planet both think reggie brown is the next chad johnson
so thats where phreak got his crazy notion
or
this steuber cat IS phreak
Negative, sir.
I do not read Steuber's stuff...I think he stole that junk from me.
Dude was on WIP the other night with GCobb for the overnight show. Ohmygodfargingbrutal.
well, brutal is the best way to describe GCobb's show anyway
G Cobb... from gcobb.com
Yahoo's latest mock is up. Some of you are going to beat it raw when you read this...
Quote26. Philadelphia Eagles – Rutgers running back Brian Leonard. They might have other needs but a combo back like Leonard can be teamed with Brian Westbrook. The pair could play together at times with Westbrook motioning out to the slot and Leonard's presence would give them a more diversified offense to build around the return of quarterback Donovan McNabb.
leonard is fine there IF about nine other players are all off the board
I admit that I haven't seen Leonard play much so I don't know if he's all hype or what but the prospect of the Eagles getting another legitimate weapon to play alongside Westbrook is very appealing to me.
But you're right about the nine players thing... the Eagles could use a playmaker on defense more than offense. I just don't know if a defensive playmaker will be there at 26.
i want all defense thruout the draft but at 26 id even take a playmaking wr over leonard...meachem for example if he were there...
Leonard wouldn't be a good pick in the first round. I know he'd be a very good weapon...but do you really want your first round pick to get 10 touches a game?
Quote from: Dillen on April 05, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Leonard wouldn't be a good pick in the first round. I know he'd be a very good weapon...but do you really want your first round pick to get 10 touches a game?
I'd be ecstatic about a first rounder getting any sort of time or impact at all, considering history.
I'd would love to see Leonard in Eagles green...but even as a Leonard fan, the first round would be a reach. Second round, I'd pull the trigger and not think twice about it...but I doubt he drops that far into the second.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 05, 2007, 08:34:38 AM
Quote from: Dillen on April 05, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Leonard wouldn't be a good pick in the first round. I know he'd be a very good weapon...but do you really want your first round pick to get 10 touches a game?
I'd be ecstatic about a first rounder getting any sort of time or impact at all, considering history.
I'd would love to see Leonard in Eagles green...but even as a Leonard fan, the first round would be a reach. Second round, I'd pull the trigger and not think twice about it...but I doubt he drops that far into the second.
What he said.
McShay still has the Birds taking Michael Griffin from Tay-hass:
Quote26. Philadelphia (10-6)
Projected pick: Michael Griffin, S, Texas
Needs: ILB, S, CB, DE, RB, WR, QB
The Eagles have a more pressing need at inside linebacker but there's simply not a player of value available here. Griffin brings experience and versatility to the table after notching 250 tackles during his last two seasons at Texas.
I have to say that works more for me than Leonard at 26. Now, if the Eagles traded down into the second and picked up a couple extra mid round picks...
griffin is one of the nine players
I really like Griffin, he hits like a freight train, and is pretty good in coverage. With coaching he'll be much better in the coverage department.
I find drafting Brian Leonard in the first round to be absolutely PREPOSTEROUS!
seriously. I must not know something that everyone else does.
Quote from: MURP on April 05, 2007, 10:14:23 AM
I must not know something that everyone else does.
Leonard is a cyborg. A white cyborg, but a cyborg none the less.
I find drafting Brian Leonard in the first round to be absolutely PREPOSTEROUS!
it pretty much is
Quote from: PPinDC on April 05, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: MURP on April 05, 2007, 10:14:23 AM
I must not know something that everyone else does.
Leonard is a cyborg. A white cyborg, but a cyborg none the less.
Is he related to Zdeno Chara?
Drafting Jon Harris in the first round was preposterous. Mixing broccoli and mashed potatoes together is preposterous. Expecting Jessica Alba to perform fellatio on you and then swallow your protein shake is preposterous.
Drafting an early second round talent late in the first round if no one else is there to help you immediately is not.
The Eagles dont run the ball. Drafting Leonard wouldnt change that. This guy isnt Reggie Bush. Taking a backup RB to run out in the flats and catch some passes while your defense needs serious help is preposterous.
We're all basically saying and have been saying the same thing. Leonard would fit perfectly onto this team. Reaching for him in the first round while this team has so many other needs borders on the retarded.
not to mention leonard is a tweener....hes a solid player but if im taking a tweener in round one it isnt gonna be a rb/fb its gonna be demarcus ware
Right. And while a tweener of his kind would be a nice addition, it is clearly not a priority.
They would have gotten with a first a few years back if they had not traded for mcdougle. All i know is I like Leonard but he's not a first rounder.
I got all your tweeners right here.
Draft Leonard! TRADE UP TO GET HIM IN FACT!
Bazoinks!
Love Leonard in the second round, hate him in the first. D must be addressed in the first round.
Griffin in the 1st. Trade Dhani, and 2nd round pic to move up early in the 2nd, grab Leonard. White linebacker in the 3rd. Messy boner Saturday
Quote from: mussa on April 05, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
Trade Dhani, and 2nd round pic to move up early in the 2nd, grab Leonard.
Dhani MIGHT get the Eagles up one spot. Maybe two if they get Seattle's GM good and drunk.
Dhani included might make the Eagles pick worth less.
Turn your friggen speakers down BEFORE clicking on this link! (http://www.brianleonard23.com/)
:o
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 06, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Turn your friggen speakers down BEFORE clicking on this link! (http://www.brianleonard23.com/)
:o
I waited like 10 minutes for a video of him fighting Agent Smith to pop up. No luck.
McShay has the Eagles taking Leonard in the second round in his latest mock:
QuoteRound 2
33. Oakland -- Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn
34. Detroit -- Trent Edwards, QB, Stanford
35. Tampa Bay -- +Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
36. Cleveland -- +Eric Wright, CB, UNLV
37. Chicago (from Washington via N.Y. Jets) -- Steve Smith, WR, USC
38. Arizona -- Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
39. Atlanta (from Houston) -- Justin Blalock, G, Texas
40. Miami -- Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State
41. Minnesota -- +Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
42. San Francisco -- LaMarr Woodley, DE/OLB, Michigan
43. Buffalo -- +Antonio Pittman, RB, Ohio State
44. Atlanta -- Tim Crowder, DE, Texas
45. Carolina -- Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami
46. Pittsburgh -- Arron Sears, G, Tennessee
47. Green Bay -- +Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
48. Jacksonville -- Craig Davis, WR, LSU
49. Cincinnati -- Turk McBride, DT, Tennessee
50. Tennessee -- Ryan Kalil, C, USC
51. N.Y. Giants -- Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas
52. St. Louis -- David Harris, ILB, Michigan
53. Dallas -- Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee
54. Kansas City -- Josh Wilson, CB, Maryland
55. Seattle -- Tank Tyler, DT, N.C. State
56. Denver -- +Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio State
57. Philadelphia -- Brian Leonard, FB/RB, Rutgers
58. New Orleans -- Tanard Jackson, CB, Syracuse
59. New York Jets -- Ikaika Alma-Francis, DE/OLB, Hawaii
60. Miami (from New England) -- Ray McDonald, DE, Florida
61. Baltimore -- Quentin Moses, DE/OLB, Georgia
62. San Diego -- Eric Weddle, S, Utah
63. N.Y. Jets (from Chicago) -- Jason Hill, WR, Washington State
64. Tampa Bay (from Indianapolis) -- Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
That would mean Michael Griffin in the 1st Round and Brian Leonard in the 2nd Round.
Wood times infinity.
for some reason, im leaning towards Merriweather from Miami, they already took the one Miami player who can't play, what are the chances it would happen again?
Wood times infinity
aka a bunkley justice one two combo
Someone forgot to take his haloperidol this morning...
:'(
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0604/gallery.nfldraftslot/content.1.html
If David Harris from Michigan fell to the Eagles in the 2nd, I'd take him over Leonard.
Ron Burke's highly anticipated list of the top 6 DTs and LBs in the draft is out!
http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=48463
Quote from: SunMo on April 13, 2007, 04:21:58 PM
Ron Burke's highly anticipated list of the top 6 DTs and LBs in the draft is out!
http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=48463
He has this guy ahead of Alan Branch:
Quote3. Brandon Mebane, California, 6-1/305
Lack of size will cause him problems, but he plays with strength and balance
Sounds like an Eagle to me!
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 13, 2007, 05:45:14 PM
Alan Branch
QuoteToo inconsistent to be a high first round pick
farging retard. Has he seen some of the players drafted in the first round? You dont find super athletic 6'6" 330 pound DTs, it doesn't matter how he played in college.
Quote from: SunMo on April 13, 2007, 04:21:58 PM
Ron Burke's highly anticipated list of the top 6 DTs and LBs in the draft is out!
http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=48463
I couldn't sleep in anticipation.
Is anyone else going to sign up for the CF mock draft contests? Just posting it here because no one ever checks the contests section.
I saw a guy that has a 2 round mock up for 2008 already. At first I thought this guy probably lives in his mother's basement and has way too much time on his hands (and probably some other stuff). But then I read it.
The '07 mock looks pretty good as far as the Eagles go, but for '08 round 1 he picked - Gosder Cherilus OT from Boston College. For round 2 he had Louis Holmes, DE Arizona. Boston College round one reminds me of Mamula and Louis Holmes sounds eerily like Lester Holmes. Plus, if AR goes DB or LB this year in the first, he'll definately have lineman juice saved up for '08. Weird guy without a life... or prophet?
http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php (http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php)
He also has Philly at # 14 in his .... most recently updated '07 power rankings - largely because they failed to keep Garcia and trade McNabb to Childress for 2 first rounders.
Quote from: Dillen on April 15, 2007, 11:45:13 AM
Is anyone else going to sign up for the CF mock draft contests? Just posting it here because no one ever checks the contests section.
Seriously.
DraftDaddy's 7 round mock.
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26 Philadelphia -- Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue
57 Philadelphia -- Eric Wright, CB, U.N.L.V.
90 Philadelphia -- H.B. Blades, LB, Pittsburgh
162 Philadelphia -- Jared Zabransky, QB, Boise State
201 Philadelphia -- Joel Filani, WR, Texas Tech
236 Philadelphia -- Corey Graham, DB, New Hampshire
I don't like Spencer in the first and no way they go after Eric "I didn't rape her, honest" Wright. I would be okay with them going DE, CB, LB though. I like Blades as an eventual replacement for Trot.
i never heard of him before but thats like the third or fourth diferent mock that has the eagles taking corey graham...kinda weird to see a 6th or 7th rounder being predicted to go to the same team over and over
http://www.hailtaterskins.com/MockDraft.htm
this site has a trillion mocks to rummage thru
i've used that site for years. I also enjoy the skins picks :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2007, 11:14:23 AM
i never heard of him before but thats like the third or fourth diferent mock that has the eagles taking corey graham...kinda weird to see a 6th or 7th rounder being predicted to go to the same team over and over
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OVERVIEW
An electrifying kickoff returner, Graham also provided leadership in the secondary and an athlete whom many regarded as the best playmaker on defense in the Atlantic 10 Conference. Graham was on his way to etching his name in the NCAA kickoff return record books in 2006, but missed the second half of the season after suffering a fractured left fibula against James Madison.
Handling a variety of roles on the football field was nothing new to Graham. At Turner Carroll High School, he compiled 2,700 all-purpose yards, 22 touchdowns, 99 tackles and 1,700 rushing yards in his senior season. He was a three-time all-Catholic selection and earned all-Western and all-state honors in 2003.
Graham enrolled at New Hampshire in 2003, starting his final nine games at right cornerback when injuries depleted the defensive backfield. He produced 47 tackles (23 solos) with two pass deflections and gained 54 yards on three interceptions.
The following season, Graham added kickoff return duties to his resume. Firmly entrenched at right cornerback, he recorded a team-high 110 tackles (75 solos), caused three fumbles and recovered another. He led the Atlantic 10 Conference with 17 pass deflections and intercepted four passes, returning one for a touchdown. He also gained 686 yards with a score on 24 kickoff returns (28.6 avg) in 2004.
Graham earned second-team all-Atlantic 10 honors as a return specialist and cornerback in 2005. He finished second on the team with 104 tackles (73 solos) and had one stop for a loss. He recovered two fumbles and batted down nine passes. He returned one of three interceptions for a touchdown and totaled 778 yards with a score on 31 kickoff returns (25.1 avg). He also added 26 yards on one punt return.
Was a team tri-captain and Buck Buchanan Award candidate (nation's top Division I-AA defender) in 2006. He was having a banner year until suffering a left fibula fracture in the team's sixth game against James Madison. When the injury was slow to heal, he underwent early November surgery to have a crew and plate placed in his leg.
Graham finished his final season with 41 tackles (24 solos) and a forced fumble. He intercepted two passes and broke up three others. On special teams, he gained 323 yards on 10 kickoff returns (32.3 avg), including a score, and returned 11 punts for 102 yards (9.3 avg) and a touchdown.
In 42 games at New Hampshire, Graham started every contest he played in. He registered 302 tackles (195 solos) with a stop for a 1-yard loss. He caused four fumbles and had three fumble recoveries. He deflected 31 passes and gained 185 yards with two touchdowns on 12 interceptions. The Wildcat set school career records with 65 kickoff returns for 1,787 yards (27.5 avg) and three touchdowns. He gained 128 yards with a score on 12 punt returns (10.7 avg).
ANALYSIS
Positives: Productive kickoff returner with natural hands for the interception and the valid foot speed to take any return for the distance (two touchdowns on interceptions, three on kickoffs and one on punts during his career) ... Has adequate change-of-direction agility and is best in man coverage, where he can flip his hips and mirror the receiver throughout the route, but needs to redefine his marginal backpedal technique ... Willingly supports vs. the run, but lacks strength to be consistent (only one tackle behind the line of scrimmage during his career) ... Has very good field smarts and instincts; he was charged with making all the defensive calls ... Also excels in the classroom, garnering conference academic honors ... Reacts quickly once he locates the ball and is very good at diagnosing the plays ... Has the hand/eye coordination to stick his hand in to break up the pass ... Even though he lacks strength, he is more effective playing in press rather than off coverage; he does a good job of keeping his hands active in attempts to re-route ... Much better running with the receivers coming off the line than when being backed off ... Plays the run with good eyes and urgency, which makes him a nice fit for a Cover 2 scheme ... Knows his responsibility in passing situations and has no problems handling the switch-off in the zone ... Has the vision to see the routes develop and shows the quick feet and burst to close in an instant ... Has the deep speed and long acceleration to stay on the hip of the receivers on long patterns ... Adequate in timing his leaps and competing for the jump ball and will not hesitate to stick his hat into the action ... Shows natural ball skills and soft hands to make the interception ... Works hard to push the outside running game back inside, but needs to take better angles to the ball ... Decent open-field tackler who has enough force to strike on contact ... Has room on his frame to add more bulk without having it affect his timed speed ... Loves to mix it up at the line, keeping his hands active to execute a good jam, but his lack of strength can be exposed vs. bigger receivers ... Has the second gear and sudden burst to consistently take the kickoff back for long yardage, and also shows patience waiting for his blocks to develop there ... Has the speed to cover ground quickly deep in the secondary ... Effective at getting his hands underneath the receiver's jersey to impede the route progression of his opponent.
Negatives: Despite weighing 195 pounds, he has a rail-thin frame with marginal muscle mass in the upper body, and thin calves and thighs ... Needs to add at least 10 pounds of muscle and continue to dedicate considerable hours in the training room to improve his marginal strength ... Will support vs. the run, but with little strength and taking poor angles to the ball, he is of little impact ... Adequate in press coverage, but marginal in off coverage; he lacks classic backpedal technique (gets too high in his stance and, despite loose hips, he is very tight in his turning motion and fails to stay in his pedal for long) ... Struggles to come out of his breaks cleanly and is best when running alongside the receiver ... Prefers to shuffle and bail, which makes him look awkward in his turning motions ... Physical tackler, but some of his hits are negated vs. bigger receivers; he lacks the strength to generate pop on contact ... Not a fan of the weight room and just started buying into that program before his senior year ... Tries to compensate for his lack of power by lunging at ball carriers, but this results in several missed tackles ... Liability in run support inside the box; he struggles to get off blocks and is quickly absorbed moving inside.
Compares To: Ricardo Colclough, Pittsburgh ... Like Colclough, Graham is an excellent kickoff returner with blazing speed. He is efficient in man coverage, but has a rail-thin frame that could see him prone to injuries or simply get punished by the bigger receivers at the NFL level. His quickness and return abilities will earn him a roster spot, but unless he can add muscle mass and bulk and totally redefine his marginal backpedal skills, he will struggle for playing time on defense, outside of nickel and dime packages, where his speed and natural hands are evident.
INJURY REPORT
2004: Dislocated the pinky knuckle on his right hand during a July training session.
2005: Suffered a left collarbone fracture in April camp.
2006: Suffered a left fibula fracture vs. James Madison (10/14). When the injury was not healing properly, doctors operated in early November to insert a screw and plate in the leg.
2007: Could not participate in agility tests at the Combine; he did not yet have medical clearance for his leg injury.
AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.38 in the 40-yard dash ... 260-pound bench press ... Bench pressed 225 pounds 10 times ... 415-pound squat ... 275-pound power clean ... 39-inch vertical jump ... 30 3/8-inch arm length ... 9½-inch hands ... Right-handed ... 29/41 Wonderlic score.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Turner Carroll (Buffalo, N.Y.) High School, playing football for head coach Willie Burnett ... Compiled 2,700 all-purpose yards, 22 touchdowns, 99 tackles and 1,700 rushing yards in his senior season ... Three-time all-Catholic selection and earned all-Western and all-state honors in 2003.
PERSONAL
Sociology major ... Son of Carey Graham and Patricia Weatherspoon ... Born on 7/25/85 in Buffalo, N.Y.
NFL Draft Countdown has the birds getting
1. Michael Griffin
2. Charles Johnson-DE from GA
3. Tony Hunt :yay
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 23, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
NFL Draft Countdown has the birds getting
1. Michael Griffin
2. Charles Johnson-DE from GA
3. Tony Hunt :yay
If that happens that will be the 3rd Charles Johnson to play for the eagles.
...and automatically the best!
Tony Hunt in the 3rd is about 10 times as awesome as Brian Leonard in the 1st or 2nd... but he won't be there.
Charles Johnson in the 2nd would be real nice, but I prefer Meriweather over Griffin if he is there.
McShay now has the Eagles taking...
Quote26. Philadelphia (10-6)
Projected pick: Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami-FL
Needs: CB, S, DE, OLB, RB, WR, TE, MLB, PK, DT
• Although the Eagles certainly can use depth at several different positions, it's hard to find a glaring weakness at any starting spot on their depth chart. One thing is certain, the Eagles will not be handcuffed by positions of need in this year's draft.
• Meriweather is a good value here because of his versatility and toughness, so long as the Eagles are comfortable with his character. The team could use Meriweather as insurance at the safety position, as Brian Dawkins is 34 and Sean Considine is still unproven.
• Other possibilities in this scenario could include S Griffin, CB Houston, and OLBs Posluszny and Beason.
Still has them with Leonard in the second and now this guy in the third:
QuoteBrian Robison
DE | (6'3", 259, 4.67) | TEXAS
Scouts Grade: 72
Flags: (D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthy
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Strengths: Shows good initial quickness. Plays with a great motor and is relentless in pursuit. Possesses good upper body strength and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Uses hands to protect legs and stays balanced. Shows good discipline, closes down cutback lanes and rarely gets caught out of position. Possesses outstanding leaping ability, times jumps well and generally does a good job of getting hands into passing windows when doesn't get to the quarterback. Has blocked five kicks and can make an immediate impact on special teams. Has experience lining up at linebacker and is a good fit for defenses that run multiple fronts.
Weaknesses: Is somewhat undersized. Lacks ideal height and possesses just adequate bulk. Gets rag-dolled too frequently when teams run at him. Doesn't have great lower body strength and isn't an effective bull rusher. Lacks ideal range and isn't a sideline-to-sideline player. Shows adequate quickness on a straight-line but looks stiff in the hips and is to slow when changing directions. Though he does a good job of anticipating the snap count, he lacks elite explosiveness and won't beat many offensive tackles with closing burst off the edge. Doesn't have great top-end speed and is going to have problems turning the corner. Has had some problems staying healthy and durability is somewhat of a concern.
Overall: Robison was redshirted in 2002 before appearing in 13 games (three starts) at middle linebacker during the 2003 season registering 38 tackles, four tackles for loss, one forced fumble, and four blocked kicks (tied a school record). In 2004, he started all 12 games at right defensive end and continued to play special teams, finishing the year with 48 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, 18 quarterback hurries, and one interception. Robison started 12 games in 2005 recording 58 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, seven sacks, two fumble recoveries, three forced fumbles, and one blocked kick. He missed much of the Oklahoma State game and all of the Baylor game with a leg injury. In 2006 he appeared in 12 of 13 games, starting nine contests, and finished with 37 tackles, eight tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks, and one blocked field goal.
Robison is a blue-collar player with good versatility. He displays good initial quickness as a pass rusher and he has good value on special teams, primarily blocking kicks. However, while tested extremely well in pre-draft workouts, he is not nearly the athlete on the football field and he also lacks functional strength. In our opinion, Robison is a fringe Day 1 prospect that likely will be drafted higher than he should be due to his exceptional combine showing.
Delightful. :-\
A DE that can't stay healthy? He'll fit right in!
does anyone know of a site that lists a top 250 players regardless of position
if not 250 just an entire drafts worth of players listed out by whos best regardless of position
Not exactly what your looking for IGY (http://www.football.com/cgi-bin/posters/printPost.cgi?category=draftnotes&at=draft1.shtml)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2007, 08:30:37 AM
does anyone know of a site that lists a top 250 players regardless of position
if not 250 just an entire drafts worth of players listed out by whos best regardless of position
I think Scouts Inc. does via ESPN Insider. Gimme a few minutes and I'll check it out. If it's there, I'll post it if the honchos here don't mind.
Part I:
Calvin Johnson WR 6'5" 239 GEORGIA TECH 99 1 1 Expert's Take
JaMarcus Russell QB 6'5" 256 LSU 98 1 2 Expert's Take
Adrian Peterson RB 6'1" 217 OKLAHOMA 98 D 1 3 Expert's Take
Joe Thomas OT 6'6" 311 WISCONSIN 98 D 1 4 Expert's Take
Laron Landry S 6'0" 213 LSU 97 1 5 Expert's Take
Gaines Adams DE 6'4" 258 CLEMSON 97 1 6 Expert's Take
Brady Quinn QB 6'3" 232 NOTRE DAME 97 2 7 Expert's Take
Leon Hall CB 5'11" 193 MICHIGAN 96 1 8 Expert's Take
Levi Brown OT 6'5" 323 PENN STATE 96 D 2 9 Expert's Take
Amobi Okoye DT 6'2" 302 LOUISVILLE 96 A 1 10 Expert's Take
Patrick Willis ILB 6'1" 242 MISSISSIPPI 95 D 1 11 Expert's Take
Darrelle Revis CB 5'11" 204 PITTSBURGH 95 2 12 Expert's Take
Alan Branch DT 6'5" 324 MICHIGAN 95 2 13 Expert's Take
Jamaal Anderson DE 6'5" 288 ARKANSAS 95 2 14 Expert's Take
Greg Olsen TE 6'5" 254 MIAMI (FLA.) 95 D 1 15 Expert's Take
Dwayne Bowe WR 6'2" 221 LSU 95 2 16 Expert's Take
Adam Carriker DE 6'6" 296 NEBRASKA 94 S 3 17 Expert's Take
Ted Ginn Jr. WR 5'11" 178 OHIO STATE 94 BD 3 18 Expert's Take
Marshawn Lynch RB 5'11" 215 CALIFORNIA 94 C 2 19 Expert's Take
Jarvis Moss DE 6'6" 250 FLORIDA 93 CD 4 20 Expert's Take
Joe Staley OT 6'5" 306 CENTRAL MICHIGAN 93 3 21 Expert's Take
Aaron Ross CB 6'0" 193 TEXAS 93 3 22 Expert's Take
Lawrence Timmons OLB 6'0" 234 FLORIDA STATE 93 Y 1 23 Expert's Take
Paul Posluszny OLB 6'1" 238 PENN STATE 92 D 2 24 Expert's Take
Reggie Nelson S 5'11" 198 FLORIDA 92 M 2 25 Expert's Take
Ryan Kalil OC 6'2" 299 USC 92 B 1 26 Expert's Take
Robert Meachem WR 6'2" 214 TENNESSEE 92 4 27 Expert's Take
Michael Griffin S 5'11" 202 TEXAS 91 3 28 Expert's Take
Justin Harrell DT 6'4" 300 TENNESSEE 91 I 3 29 Expert's Take
Ben Grubbs OG 6'2" 311 AUBURN 90 1 30 Expert's Take
Chris Houston CB 5'9" 185 ARKANSAS 90 4 31 Expert's Take
Dwayne Jarrett WR 6'4" 219 USC 90 DS 5 32 Expert's Take
John Beason OLB 6'0" 237 MIAMI (FLA.) 89 D 3 33 Expert's Take
Justin Blalock OG 6'3" 320 TEXAS 89 2 34 Expert's Take
Eric Wright CB 5'10" 192 NEVADA LAS VEGAS 89 CD 5 35 Expert's Take
Anthony Spencer DE 6'2" 261 PURDUE 89 5 36 Expert's Take
Anthony Gonzalez WR 6'0" 193 OHIO STATE 89 6 37 Expert's Take
Brandon Meriweather S 5'10" 195 MIAMI (FLA.) 88 BCD 4 38 Expert's Take
Steve Smith WR 5'11" 197 USC 88 D 7 39 Expert's Take
Ray McDonald DE 6'3" 276 FLORIDA 87 D 6 40 Expert's Take
Marcus McCauley CB 6'0" 203 FRESNO STATE 87 6 41 Expert's Take
Arron Sears OG 6'3" 319 TENNESSEE 86 CS 3 42 Expert's Take
Drew Stanton QB 6'3" 226 MICHIGAN STATE 86 D 3 43 Expert's Take
Sidney Rice WR 6'3" 200 SOUTH CAROLINA 86 D 8 44 Expert's Take
Zach Miller TE 6'4" 256 ARIZONA STATE 86 D 2 45 Expert's Take
Trent Edwards QB 6'4" 231 STANFORD 85 I 4 46 Expert's Take
LaMarr Woodley DE 6'1" 266 MICHIGAN 85 B 7 47 Expert's Take
Kenny Irons RB 5'10" 203 AUBURN 85 BD 3 48 Expert's Take
Tim Crowder DE 6'3" 272 TEXAS 84 8 49 Expert's Take
Brian Leonard FB 6'1" 226 RUTGERS 84 1 50 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Josh Wilson CB 5'9" 189 MARYLAND 84 B 7 51 Expert's Take
Charles Johnson DE 6'2" 270 GEORGIA 83 9 52 Expert's Take
Craig Davis WR 6'1" 207 LSU 83 D 9 53 Expert's Take
David Harris ILB 6'2" 243 MICHIGAN 83 2 54 Expert's Take
Stewart Bradley OLB 6'3" 254 NEBRASKA 83 D 4 55 Expert's Take
Tanard Jackson CB 6'0" 200 SYRACUSE 82 C 8 56 Expert's Take
Antonio Pittman RB 5'10" 207 OHIO STATE 82 4 57 Expert's Take
Turk McBride DT 6'2" 277 TENNESSEE 82 BDM 4 58 Expert's Take
Tony Ugoh OT 6'5" 301 ARKANSAS 82 DS 4 59 Expert's Take
Eric Weddle S 5'11" 203 UTAH 81 5 60 Expert's Take
Quentin Moses DE 6'5" 261 GEORGIA 80 B 10 61 Expert's Take
Tank Tyler DT 6'2" 306 NORTH CAROLINA ST 80 CMS 5 62 Expert's Take
Lorenzo Booker RB 5'10" 191 FLORIDA STATE 79 BD 5 63 Expert's Take
Jonathan Wade CB 5'10" 195 TENNESSEE 79 9 64 Expert's Take
James Marten OT 6'7" 309 BOSTON COLLEGE 79 5 65 Expert's Take
Justin Durant OLB 6'0" 230 HAMPTON 79 5 66 Expert's Take
Jason Hill WR 6'0" 204 WASHINGTON STATE 79 D 10 67 Expert's Take
Victor Abiamiri DE 6'4" 267 NOTRE DAME 79 11 68 Expert's Take
Marshal Yanda OG 6'3" 307 IOWA 78 4 69 Expert's Take
Ikaika Alma-Francis DE 6'5" 280 HAWAII 77 IY 12 70 Expert's Take
Aundrae Allison WR 6'0" 198 EAST CAROLINA 77 M 11 71 Expert's Take
Brandon Jackson RB 5'9" 210 NEBRASKA 77 6 72 Expert's Take
Daymeion Hughes CB 5'10" 190 CALIFORNIA 77 S 10 73 Expert's Take
Samson Satele OC 6'2" 300 HAWAII 77 2 74 Expert's Take
Ben Patrick TE 6'3" 252 DELAWARE 77 3 75 Expert's Take
John Beck QB 6'2" 215 BYU 76 AD 5 76 Expert's Take
Brandon Siler ILB 6'1" 241 FLORIDA 76 3 77 Expert's Take
Doug Free OT 6'6" 324 NORTHERN ILLINOIS 76 6 78 Expert's Take
Stephen Nicholas OLB 6'1" 232 SOUTH FLORIDA 76 B 6 79 Expert's Take
Brandon Mebane DT 6'1" 309 CALIFORNIA 76 M 6 80 Expert's Take
Fred Bennett CB 6'0" 196 SOUTH CAROLINA 76 D 11 81 Expert's Take
Josh Beekman OG 6'1" 313 BOSTON COLLEGE 75 5 82 Expert's Take
Quinn Pitcock DT 6'2" 299 OHIO STATE 75 7 83 Expert's Take
Chris Henry RB 5'11" 230 ARIZONA 75 7 84 Expert's Take
Tim Shaw OLB 6'1" 236 PENN STATE 75 7 85 Expert's Take
Jacoby Jones WR 6'2" 210 LANE 74 12 86 Expert's Take
Michael Bush RB 6'1" 243 LOUISVILLE 74 I 8 87 Expert's Take
Kenny Scott CB 6'0" 179 GEORGIA TECH 74 B 12 88 Expert's Take
Scott Chandler TE 6'7" 270 IOWA 74 B 4 89 Expert's Take
Ryan McBean DT 6'4" 286 OKLAHOMA STATE 74 B 8 90 Expert's Take
Martrez Milner TE 6'3" 252 GEORGIA 73 5 91 Expert's Take
Ryan Harris OT 6'4" 305 NOTRE DAME 73 B 7 92 Expert's Take
Tarell Brown CB 5'10" 190 TEXAS 73 CD 13 93 Expert's Take
Mason Crosby PK 6'1" 212 COLORADO 72 1 94 Expert's Take
Buster Davis ILB 5'9" 239 FLORIDA STATE 72 B 4 95 Expert's Take
Josh Gattis S 6'1" 206 WAKE FOREST 72 6 96 Expert's Take
Quincy Black OLB 6'1" 240 NEW MEXICO 72 B 8 97 Expert's Take
Brian Robison DE 6'3" 259 TEXAS 72 D 13 98 Expert's Take
Kevin Kolb QB 6'3" 218 HOUSTON 71 6 99 Expert's Take
Paul Soliai DT 6'4" 344 UTAH 71 C 9 100 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Tony Hunt RB 6'1" 233 PENN STATE 71 9 101 Expert's Take
David Clowney WR 6'0" 188 VIRGINIA TECH 71 D 13 102 Expert's Take
Sabby Piscitelli S 6'2" 224 OREGON STATE 70 7 103 Expert's Take
Troy Smith QB 6'0" 225 OHIO STATE 70 BC 7 104 Expert's Take
Rory Johnson OLB 6'0" 232 MISSISSIPPI 70 9 105 Expert's Take
Marcus Thomas DT 6'2" 314 FLORIDA 70 CD 10 106 Expert's Take
AJ Davis CB 5'10" 193 NORTH CAROLINA ST 70 BD 14 107 Expert's Take
Andy Alleman OG 6'4" 305 AKRON 69 6 108 Expert's Take
Derek Landri DT 6'2" 288 NOTRE DAME 69 BI 11 109 Expert's Take
Mike Walker WR 6'1" 209 CENTRAL FLORIDA 69 D 14 110 Expert's Take
Anthony Arline CB 6'1" 199 BAYLOR 69 S 15 111 Expert's Take
Matt Spaeth TE 6'7" 270 MINNESOTA 68 D 6 112 Expert's Take
Mario Henderson OT 6'6" 302 FLORIDA STATE 68 8 113 Expert's Take
Jay Moore DE 6'4" 274 NEBRASKA 68 S 14 114 Expert's Take
Leroy Harris OC 6'2" 302 NORTH CAROLINA ST 67 D 3 115 Expert's Take
John Wendling S 6'1" 222 WYOMING 67 8 116 Expert's Take
Michael Okwo OLB 5'11" 232 STANFORD 67 BD 10 117 Expert's Take
Deshawn Wynn RB 5'10" 232 FLORIDA 67 D 10 118 Expert's Take
Laurent Robinson WR 6'2" 199 ILLINOIS STATE 67 15 119 Expert's Take
David Irons CB 5'10" 190 AUBURN 67 DM 16 120 Expert's Take
Allen Barbre OT 6'4" 300 MISSOURI SOUTHERN 66 B 9 121 Expert's Take
Rufus Alexander OLB 6'0" 228 OKLAHOMA 66 B 11 122 Expert's Take
Kareem Brown DT 6'4" 290 MIAMI (FLA.) 66 12 123 Expert's Take
Baraka Atkins DE 6'4" 271 MIAMI (FLA.) 66 M 15 124 Expert's Take
Courtney Taylor WR 6'1" 204 AUBURN 66 D 16 125 Expert's Take
Travarous Bain CB 6'0" 182 HAMPTON 66 B 17 126 Expert's Take
HB Blades ILB 5'10" 236 PITTSBURGH 65 B 5 127 Expert's Take
Brandon Frye OT 6'4" 301 VIRGINIA TECH 65 DY 10 128 Expert's Take
Darius Walker RB 5'10" 206 NOTRE DAME 65 11 129 Expert's Take
Dan Bazuin DE 6'2" 266 CENTRAL MICHIGAN 65 16 130 Expert's Take
Johnnie Lee Higgins WR 5'11" 186 UTEP 65 17 131 Expert's Take
Doug Datish OC 6'4" 302 OHIO STATE 64 4 132 Expert's Take
Mansfield Wrotto OG 6'3" 317 GEORGIA TECH 64 7 133 Expert's Take
Michael Allan TE 6'6" 255 WHITWORTH 64 7 134 Expert's Take
Aaron Rouse S 6'4" 223 VIRGINIA TECH 64 9 135 Expert's Take
Dwayne Wright RB 5'11" 228 FRESNO STATE 64 DS 12 136 Expert's Take
C.J. Gaddis CB 5'11" 203 CLEMSON 64 18 137 Expert's Take
Zak Deossie OLB 6'4" 250 BROWN 63 D 12 138 Expert's Take
Paul Williams WR 6'1" 205 FRESNO STATE 63 DMU 18 139 Expert's Take
Adam Koets OT 6'5" 298 OREGON STATE 62 11 140 Expert's Take
PFW's 1-227, regardless of position.
(http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Player+Rankings/2007/RegofPos.htm)
USA Today's Top 400 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics/nfl_draft_07/flash.htm)
Part II:
Ryan Smith CB 5'10" 174 FLORIDA 62 B 19 141 Expert's Take
Gerald Alexander S 6'0" 210 BOISE STATE 61 10 142 Expert's Take
Usama Young CB 5'11" 194 KENT 61 20 143 Expert's Take
Anthony Waters ILB 6'2" 245 CLEMSON 60 I 6 144 Expert's Take
Julius Wilson OT 6'4" 327 ALABAMA BIRMINGHAM 60 DMS 12 145 Expert's Take
Keith Jackson DT 6'0" 305 ARKANSAS 60 13 146 Expert's Take
Tony Taylor OLB 6'0" 236 GEORGIA 60 DS 13 147 Expert's Take
Kolby Smith RB 5'11" 220 LOUISVILLE 60 D 13 148 Expert's Take
Chris Davis WR 5'10" 181 FLORIDA STATE 60 B 19 149 Expert's Take
Daniel Sepulveda PT 6'2" 229 BAYLOR 59 D 1 150 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Dan Mozes OC 6'2" 293 WEST VIRGINIA 59 B 5 151 Expert's Take
Nate Harris ILB 6'0" 230 LOUISVILLE 59 CDM 7 152 Expert's Take
Isaiah Stanback QB 6'2" 216 WASHINGTON 59 I 8 153 Expert's Take
Kevin Boss TE 6'6" 252 WESTERN OREGON 59 8 154 Expert's Take
Michael Johnson S 6'2" 205 ARIZONA 59 11 155 Expert's Take
Antwan Barnes OLB 6'0" 240 FLORIDA INTL 59 14 156 Expert's Take
Courtney Brown CB 6'1" 196 CAL POLY 59 S 21 157 Expert's Take
Manuel Ramirez OG 6'3" 326 TEXAS TECH 58 8 158 Expert's Take
Eric Frampton S 5'11" 204 WASHINGTON STATE 58 S 12 159 Expert's Take
Chase Johnson OT 6'8" 330 WYOMING 58 S 13 160 Expert's Take
Jay Alford DT 6'3" 304 PENN STATE 58 B 14 161 Expert's Take
Earl Everett OLB 6'2" 238 FLORIDA 58 M 15 162 Expert's Take
Chansi Stuckey WR 5'10" 197 CLEMSON 58 BD 20 163 Expert's Take
Adam Podlesh PT 5'11" 202 MARYLAND 57 2 164 Expert's Take
Dane Uperesa OT 6'4" 309 HAWAII 57 14 165 Expert's Take
Garrett Wolfe RB 5'7" 186 NORTHERN ILLINOIS 57 BD 14 166 Expert's Take
Deandre Jackson CB 5'11" 193 IOWA STATE 57 I 22 167 Expert's Take
Jon Abbate ILB 5'9" 231 WAKE FOREST 56 8 168 Expert's Take
Chris Leak QB 5'11" 209 FLORIDA 56 B 9 169 Expert's Take
Clark Harris TE 6'5" 261 RUTGERS 56 9 170 Expert's Take
Marvin White S 6'1" 199 TCU 56 M 13 171 Expert's Take
Xavier Jackson DE 6'2" 278 MISSOURI 56 C 17 172 Expert's Take
Rhema McKnight WR 6'1" 211 NOTRE DAME 55 D 21 173 Expert's Take
Desmond Bishop ILB 6'1" 239 CALIFORNIA 54 S 9 174 Expert's Take
Jermon Bushrod OT 6'4" 315 TOWSON 54 15 175 Expert's Take
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 5'9" 198 MARSHALL 54 15 176 Expert's Take
Tim Mixon CB 5'8" 184 CALIFORNIA 54 I 23 177 Expert's Take
Enoka Lucas OC 6'2" 303 OREGON 53 6 178 Expert's Take
Dan Santucci OG 6'3" 301 NOTRE DAME 53 9 179 Expert's Take
Kevin Payne S 6'0" 220 LOUISIANA MONROE 53 S 14 180 Expert's Take
Juwan Simpson OLB 6'2" 225 ALABAMA 53 BC 16 181 Expert's Take
Justin Medlock PK 5'11" 201 UCLA 52 C 2 182 Expert's Take
Ola Dagunduro DT 6'1" 295 NEBRASKA 52 15 183 Expert's Take
Mike Otto OT 6'5" 308 PURDUE 52 16 184 Expert's Take
Steve Breaston WR 6'0" 193 MICHIGAN 52 22 185 Expert's Take
David Jones CB 5'11" 190 WINGATE 52 24 186 Expert's Take
Dante Rosario TE 6'3" 244 OREGON 51 B 10 187 Expert's Take
Dashon Goldson S 6'2" 205 WASHINGTON 51 S 15 188 Expert's Take
Ken Darby RB 5'10" 211 ALABAMA 51 DM 16 189 Expert's Take
Chase Pittman DE 6'4" 270 LSU 51 S 18 190 Expert's Take
Dallas Baker WR 6'3" 208 FLORIDA 51 D 23 191 Expert's Take
Tyler Palko QB 6'1" 215 PITTSBURGH 50 B 10 192 Expert's Take
Prescott Burgess OLB 6'3" 240 MICHIGAN 50 17 193 Expert's Take
Jacob Ford DE 6'3" 249 CENTRAL ARKANSAS 50 B 19 194 Expert's Take
Jared Zabransky QB 6'1" 204 BOISE STATE 49 B 11 195 Expert's Take
Jeremy Clark DT 6'2" 309 ALABAMA 49 16 196 Expert's Take
Chris Denman OT 6'6" 315 FRESNO STATE 49 17 197 Expert's Take
Joel Filani WR 6'2" 211 TEXAS TECH 49 S 24 198 Expert's Take
Scott Stephenson OC 6'3" 297 IOWA STATE 48 7 199 Expert's Take
Cameron Stephenson OG 6'3" 306 RUTGERS 48 10 200 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Tyrone Moss RB 5'9" 231 MIAMI (FLA.) 48 CD 17 201 Expert's Take
Corey Graham CB 5'11" 195 NEW HAMPSHIRE 48 25 202 Expert's Take
James Jones WR 6'0" 207 SAN JOSE STATE 48 M 25 203 Expert's Take
Part III:
Yamon Figurs RS 5'11" 178 KANSAS STATE 47 B 1 204 Expert's Take
Le'Ron McClain FB 6'0" 256 ALABAMA 47 2 205 Expert's Take
Kelvin Smith ILB 6'2" 240 SYRACUSE 47 10 206 Expert's Take
Derek Schouman TE 6'2" 247 BOISE STATE 47 11 207 Expert's Take
Daren Stone S 6'3" 218 MAINE 47 S 16 208 Expert's Take
Kamichael Hall OLB 6'0" 228 GEORGIA TECH 47 B 18 209 Expert's Take
Victor Degrate DE 6'2" 249 OKLAHOMA STATE 47 B 20 210 Expert's Take
Brandon Harrison S 6'1" 227 STANFORD 46 S 17 211 Expert's Take
Brent Curvey DT 5'11" 296 IOWA STATE 46 B 17 212 Expert's Take
Corey Hilliard OT 6'5" 308 OKLAHOMA STATE 46 18 213 Expert's Take
Ryne Robinson WR 5'9" 179 MIAMI (OHIO) 46 B 26 214 Expert's Take
Tim Duckworth OG 6'3" 306 AUBURN 45 DMS 11 215 Expert's Take
Selvin Young RB 5'11" 207 TEXAS 45 D 18 216 Expert's Take
C.J. Wilson CB 6'1" 195 BAYLOR 45 S 26 217 Expert's Take
Kody Bliss PT 5'10" 179 AUBURN 44 3 218 Expert's Take
Jordan Palmer QB 6'5" 231 UTEP 44 D 12 219 Expert's Take
Jonny Harline TE 6'3" 248 BYU 44 B 12 220 Expert's Take
Matt Toeaina DT 6'2" 307 OREGON 44 18 221 Expert's Take
Justin Hickman OLB 6'1" 254 UCLA 44 Y 19 222 Expert's Take
Noland Burchette DE 6'1" 259 VIRGINIA TECH 44 D 21 223 Expert's Take
Herbert Taylor OT 6'3" 296 TCU 43 B 19 224 Expert's Take
Syvelle Newton WR 6'0" 218 SOUTH CAROLINA 43 S 27 225 Expert's Take
Uche Nwaneri OG 6'3" 325 PURDUE 42 C 12 226 Expert's Take
Alonzo Coleman RB 5'9" 207 HAMPTON 42 BM 19 227 Expert's Take
Edgar Jones DE 6'2" 262 42 22 228 Expert's Take
Reggie Lewis CB 5'10" 204 FLORIDA 42 Y 27 229 Expert's Take
Cory Anderson FB 6'2" 247 TENNESSEE 41 3 230 Expert's Take
Drew Mormino OC 6'3" 299 CENTRAL MICHIGAN 41 8 231 Expert's Take
Joe Newton TE 6'7" 257 OREGON STATE 41 D 13 232 Expert's Take
Kelly Talavou DT 6'1" 307 UTAH 41 S 19 233 Expert's Take
David Ball WR 6'0" 193 NEW HAMPSHIRE 41 S 28 234 Expert's Take
Brandon Sharp S 5'10" 194 LOUISVILLE 40 B 18 235 Expert's Take
Walter Thomas DT 6'3" 359 40 20 236 Expert's Take
Gabe Hall OT 6'3" 313 TEXAS TECH 40 20 237 Expert's Take
Michael Coe CB 6'0" 190 ALABAMA STATE 40 28 238 Expert's Take
Jemalle Cornelius WR 5'10" 184 FLORIDA 40 B 29 239 Expert's Take
Zach Diles ILB 6'2" 233 KANSAS STATE 39 11 240 Expert's Take
Mike Jones OG 6'5" 309 IOWA 39 BS 13 241 Expert's Take
Jeff Rowe QB 6'5" 226 NEVADA 39 13 242 Expert's Take
Dallas Sartz OLB 6'4" 235 USC 39 DO 20 243 Expert's Take
Jon Cornish RB 5'11" 206 KANSAS 39 20 244 Expert's Take
Stephon Heyer OT 6'6" 334 MARYLAND 39 D 21 245 Expert's Take
Joe Cohen DE 6'2" 313 FLORIDA 39 23 246 Expert's Take
Brandon Myles WR 6'0" 183 WEST VIRGINIA 39 30 247 Expert's Take
Jason Snelling FB 5'11" 230 VIRGINIA 38 D 4 248 Expert's Take
Anthony Pudewell TE 6'4" 250 NEVADA 38 D 15 249 Expert's Take
Craig Dahl S 6'1" 216 NORTH DAKOTA STATE 38 19 250 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Antonio Johnson DT 6'3" 310 MISSISSIPPI STATE 38 MY 21 251 Expert's Take
Elliot Vallejo OT 6'7" 327 CAL DAVIS 38 S 22 252 Expert's Take
Brandon Fields PT 6'4" 239 MICHIGAN STATE 37 4 253 Expert's Take
Antwan Applewhite DE 6'2" 250 SAN DIEGO STATE 37 24 254 Expert's Take
John Talley CB 5'11" 191 DUKE 37 D 29 255 Expert's Take
Legedu Naanee WR 6'2" 225 BOISE STATE 37 31 256 Expert's Take
Nick Folk PK 6'1" 225 ARIZONA 36 3 257 Expert's Take
Jackie Battle FB 6'1" 245 HOUSTON 36 5 258 Expert's Take
Lyle Sendlein OC 6'3" 298 TEXAS 36 9 259 Expert's Take
Tala Esera OG 6'3" 312 HAWAII 36 14 260 Expert's Take
Matt Moore QB 6'3" 191 OREGON STATE 36 D 14 261 Expert's Take
Ramonce Taylor RB 5'10" 195 TEXAS 36 CM 21 262 Expert's Take
David Patterson DT 6'2" 285 OHIO STATE 36 B 22 263 Expert's Take
Kendrick Shackleford OT 6'4" 322 GEORGIA 36 23 264 Expert's Take
CJ Ah You DE 6'3" 274 OKLAHOMA 36 ACD 25 265 Expert's Take
D'Juan Woods WR 6'0" 208 OKLAHOMA STATE 36 32 266 Expert's Take
Gijon Robinson TE 6'0" 261 MISSOURI WESTERN 35 14 267 Expert's Take
Andrew Carnahan OT 6'7" 306 ARIZONA STATE 35 BI 24 268 Expert's Take
Nick Leeson LS 6'1" 255 VIRGINIA TECH 34 B 1 269 Expert's Take
Matt Clark PK 6'0" 181 AUBURN 34 Y 4 270 Expert's Take
Nedu Ndukwe S 6'1" 206 NOTRE DAME 34 20 271 Expert's Take
Ronnie McGill RB 5'10" 213 NORTH CAROLINA 34 D 22 272 Expert's Take
Bo Smith CB 5'10" 193 WEBER STATE 34 CDM 30 273 Expert's Take
Dustin Fry OC 6'2" 314 CLEMSON 33 10 274 Expert's Take
Sam Olajubutu OLB 5'8" 227 ARKANSAS 33 BD 21 275 Expert's Take
Joe Anoai DT 6'2" 277 GEORGIA TECH 33 BD 23 276 Expert's Take
Matt Trannon WR 6'6" 216 MICHIGAN STATE 33 DMS 33 277 Expert's Take
Brendan Carney PT 6'3" 203 SYRACUSE 32 5 278 Expert's Take
Marvin Mitchell ILB 6'3" 249 TENNESSEE 32 CDS 12 279 Expert's Take
Nathan Bennett OG 6'4" 316 CLEMSON 32 MS 15 280 Expert's Take
Zac Taylor QB 6'2" 216 NEBRASKA 32 15 281 Expert's Take
Brent Celek TE 6'3" 248 CINCINNATI 32 B 16 282 Expert's Take
Thomas Clayton RB 5'10" 218 KANSAS STATE 32 CU 23 283 Expert's Take
Dan Parrish OT 6'6" 340 FLORIDA A&M 32 25 284 Expert's Take
Mkristo Bruce DE 6'5" 268 WASHINGTON STATE 32 MS 26 285 Expert's Take
Trumaine McBride CB 5'9" 185 MISSISSIPPI 32 31 286 Expert's Take
Mike Mason WR 5'11" 190 TENNESSEE STATE 32 34 287 Expert's Take
Tully Janszen LS 6'2" 256 TEXAS 31 BD 2 288 Expert's Take
Syndric Steptoe RS 5'8" 194 ARIZONA 31 BS 2 289 Expert's Take
Jesse Ainsworth PK 6'2" 218 ARIZONA STATE 31 5 290 Expert's Take
Deon Anderson FB 5'10" 243 CONNECTICUT 31 C 6 291 Expert's Take
Kyle Young OC 6'5" 350 FRESNO STATE 31 MS 11 292 Expert's Take
Zach Latimer ILB 6'1" 237 OKLAHOMA 31 S 13 293 Expert's Take
Kasey Studdard OG 6'2" 303 TEXAS 31 16 294 Expert's Take
James Pickney QB 6'2" 208 EAST CAROLINA 31 16 295 Expert's Take
Samuel Smith TE 6'2" 242 FLORIDA INTL 31 CD 17 296 Expert's Take
JD Nelson S 5'11" 207 OREGON 31 S 21 297 Expert's Take
Cliff Ryan DT 6'2" 310 MICHIGAN STATE 31 24 298 Expert's Take
Clifton Dawson RB 5'9" 206 HARVARD 31 B 24 299 Expert's Take
Renardo Foster OT 6'6" 324 LOUISVILLE 31 26 300 Expert's Take
NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE FLAG POS RANK OVR RANK COMMENT
Jay Richardson DE 6'5" 279 OHIO STATE 31 S 27 301 Expert's Take
Brandon McDonald CB 5'10" 181 MEMPHIS 31 B 32 302 Expert's Take
Jordan Kent WR 6'4" 217 OREGON 31 35 303 Expert's Take
Romey, that looks russian
thank you kind sirs
that dude Steubner was on DNL last night.
he's just a guy, that's all. he really brought no insight whatsoever.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
it almost made me angry that he was getting looked to as an expert, which he clearly is not.
Romey, that looks russian
Round 1
Calvin Johnson WR 6'5" 239 GEORGIA TECH
JaMarcus Russell QB 6'5" 256 LSU
Adrian Peterson RB 6'1" 217 OKLAHOMA
Joe Thomas OT 6'6" 311 WISCONSIN
Laron Landry S 6'0" 213 LSU
Gaines Adams DE 6'4" 258 CLEMSON
Brady Quinn QB 6'3" 232 NOTRE DAME
Leon Hall CB 5'11" 193 MICHIGAN
Levi Brown OT 6'5" 323 PENN STATE
Amobi Okoye DT 6'2" 302 LOUISVILLE
Patrick Willis ILB 6'1" 242 MISSISSIPPI
Darrelle Revis CB 5'11" 204 PITTSBURGH
Alan Branch DT 6'5" 324 MICHIGAN
Jamaal Anderson DE 6'5" 288 ARKANSAS
Greg Olsen TE 6'5" 254 MIAMI (FLA.)
Dwayne Bowe WR 6'2" 221 LSU
Adam Carriker DE 6'6" 296 NEBRASKA
Ted Ginn Jr. WR 5'11" 178 OHIO STATE
Marshawn Lynch RB 5'11" 215 CALIFORNIA
Jarvis Moss DE 6'6" 250 FLORIDA
Joe Staley OT 6'5" 306 CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Aaron Ross CB 6'0" 193 TEXAS
Lawrence Timmons OLB 6'0" 234 FLORIDA STATE
Paul Posluszny OLB 6'1" 238 PENN STATE
Reggie Nelson S 5'11" 198 FLORIDA
Ryan Kalil OC 6'2" 299 USC
Robert Meachem WR 6'2" 214 TENNESSEE
Michael Griffin S 5'11" 202 TEXAS
Justin Harrell DT 6'4" 300 TENNESSEE
Ben Grubbs OG 6'2" 311 AUBURN
Chris Houston CB 5'9" 185 ARKANSAS
Dwayne Jarrett WR 6'4" 219 USC
Round 2
John Beason OLB 6'0" 237 MIAMI (FLA.)
Justin Blalock OG 6'3" 320 TEXAS
Eric Wright CB 5'10" 192 NEVADA LAS VEGAS
Anthony Spencer DE 6'2" 261 PURDUE
Anthony Gonzalez WR 6'0" 193 OHIO STATE
Brandon Meriweth S 5'10" 195 MIAMI (FLA.)
Steve Smith WR 5'11" 197 USC
Ray McDonald DE 6'3" 276 FLORIDA
Marcus McCauley CB 6'0" 203 FRESNO STATE
Arron Sears OG 6'3" 319 TENNESSEE
Drew Stanton QB 6'3" 226 MICHIGAN STATE
Sidney Rice WR 6'3" 200 SOUTH CAROLINA
Zach Miller TE 6'4" 256 ARIZONA STATE
Trent Edwards QB 6'4" 231 STANFORD
LaMarr Woodley DE 6'1" 266 MICHIGAN
Kenny Irons RB 5'10" 203 AUBURN
Tim Crowder DE 6'3" 272 TEXAS
Brian Leonard FB 6'1" 226 RUTGERS
Josh Wilson CB 5'9" 189 MARYLAND
Charles Johnson DE 6'2" 270 GEORGIA
Craig Davis WR 6'1" 207 LSU
David Harris ILB 6'2" 243 MICHIGAN
Stewart Bradley OLB 6'3" 254 NEBRASKA
Tanard Jackson CB 6'0" 200 SYRACUSE
Antonio Pittman RB 5'10" 207 OHIO STATE
Turk McBride DT 6'2" 277 TENNESSEE
Tony Ugoh OT 6'5" 301 ARKANSAS
Eric Weddle S 5'11" 203 UTAH
Quentin Moses DE 6'5" 261 GEORGIA
Tank Tyler DT 6'2" 306 NORTH CAROLINA ST
Lorenzo Booker RB 5'10" 191 FLORIDA STATE
Jonathan Wade CB 5'10" 195 TENNESSEE
Round 3
James Marten OT 6'7" 309 BOSTON COLLEGE
Justin Durant OLB 6'0" 230 HAMPTON
Jason Hill WR 6'0" 204 WASHINGTON STATE
Victor Abiamiri DE 6'4" 267 NOTRE DAME
Marshal Yanda OG 6'3" 307 IOWA
Ikaika Alma-Fran DE 6'5" 280 HAWAII
Aundrae Allison WR 6'0" 198 EAST CAROLINA
Brandon Jackson RB 5'9" 210 NEBRASKA
Daymeion Hughes CB 5'10" 190 CALIFORNIA
Samson Satele OC 6'2" 300 HAWAII
Ben Patrick TE 6'3" 252 DELAWARE
John Beck QB 6'2" 215 BYU
Brandon Siler ILB 6'1" 241 FLORIDA
Doug Free OT 6'6" 324 NORTHERN ILLINOIS
Stephen Nicholas OLB 6'1" 232 SOUTH FLORIDA
Brandon Mebane DT 6'1" 309 CALIFORNIA
Fred Bennett CB 6'0" 196 SOUTH CAROLINA
Josh Beekman OG 6'1" 313 BOSTON COLLEGE
Quinn Pitcock DT 6'2" 299 OHIO STATE
Chris Henry RB 5'11" 230 ARIZONA
Tim Shaw OLB 6'1" 236 PENN STATE
Jacoby Jones WR 6'2" 210 LANE
Michael Bush RB 6'1" 243 LOUISVILLE
Kenny Scott CB 6'0" 179 GEORGIA TECH
Scott Chandler TE 6'7" 270 IOWA
Ryan McBean DT 6'4" 286 OKLAHOMA STATE
Martrez Milner TE 6'3" 252 GEORGIA
Ryan Harris OT 6'4" 305 NOTRE DAME
Tarell Brown CB 5'10" 190 TEXAS
Mason Crosby PK 6'1" 212 COLORADO
Buster Davis ILB 5'9" 239 FLORIDA STATE
Josh Gattis S 6'1" 206 WAKE FOREST
Round 4
Quincy Black OLB 6'1" 240 NEW MEXICO
Brian Robison DE 6'3" 259 TEXAS
Kevin Kolb QB 6'3" 218 HOUSTON
Paul Soliai DT 6'4" 344 UTAH
Tony Hunt RB 6'1" 233 PENN STATE
David Clowney WR 6'0" 188 VIRGINIA TECH
Sabby Piscitelli S 6'2" 224 OREGON STATE
Troy Smith QB 6'0" 225 OHIO STATE
Rory Johnson OLB 6'0" 232 MISSISSIPPI
Marcus Thomas DT 6'2" 314 FLORIDA
AJ Davis CB 5'10" 193 NORTH CAROLINA ST
Andy Alleman OG 6'4" 305 AKRON
Derek Landri DT 6'2" 288 NOTRE DAME
Mike Walker WR 6'1" 209 CENTRAL FLORIDA
Anthony Arline CB 6'1" 199 BAYLOR
Matt Spaeth TE 6'7" 270 MINNESOTA
Mario Henderson OT 6'6" 302 FLORIDA STATE
Jay Moore DE 6'4" 274 NEBRASKA
Leroy Harris OC 6'2" 302 NORTH CAROLINA ST
John Wendling S 6'1" 222 WYOMING
Michael Okwo OLB 5'11" 232 STANFORD
Deshawn Wynn RB 5'10" 232 FLORIDA
Laurent Robinson WR 6'2" 199 ILLINOIS STATE
David Irons CB 5'10" 190 AUBURN
Allen Barbre OT 6'4" 300 MISSOURI SOUTHERN
Rufus Alexander OLB 6'0" 228 OKLAHOMA
Kareem Brown DT 6'4" 290 MIAMI (FLA.)
Baraka Atkins DE 6'4" 271 MIAMI (FLA.)
Courtney Taylor WR 6'1" 204 AUBURN
Travarous Bain CB 6'0" 182 HAMPTON
HB Blades ILB 5'10" 236 PITTSBURGH
Brandon Frye OT 6'4" 301 VIRGINIA TECH
Round 5
Darius Walker RB 5'10" 206 NOTRE DAME
Dan Bazuin DE 6'2" 266 CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Johnnie Higgins WR 5'11" 186 UTEP
Doug Datish OC 6'4" 302 OHIO STATE
Mansfield Wrotto OG 6'3" 317 GEORGIA TECH
Michael Allan TE 6'6" 255 WHITWORTH
Aaron Rouse S 6'4" 223 VIRGINIA TECH
Dwayne Wright RB 5'11" 228 FRESNO STATE
C.J. Gaddis CB 5'11" 203 CLEMSON
Zak Deossie OLB 6'4" 250 BROWN
Paul Williams WR 6'1" 205 FRESNO STATE
Adam Koets OT 6'5" 298 OREGON STATE
Ryan Smith CB 5'10" 174 FLORIDA
Gerald Alexander S 6'0" 210 BOISE STATE
Usama Young CB 5'11" 194 KENT
Anthony Waters ILB 6'2" 245 CLEMSON
Julius Wilson OT 6'4" 327 ALABAMA BIRMINGHAM
Keith Jackson DT 6'0" 305 ARKANSAS
Tony Taylor OLB 6'0" 236 GEORGIA
Kolby Smith RB 5'11" 220 LOUISVILLE
Chris Davis WR 5'10" 181 FLORIDA STATE
Daniel Sepulveda PT 6'2" 229 BAYLOR
Dan Mozes OC 6'2" 293 WEST VIRGINIA
Nate Harris ILB 6'0" 230 LOUISVILLE
Isaiah Stanback QB 6'2" 216 WASHINGTON
Kevin Boss TE 6'6" 252 WESTERN OREGON
Michael Johnson S 6'2" 205 ARIZONA
Antwan Barnes OLB 6'0" 240 FLORIDA INTL
Courtney Brown CB 6'1" 196 CAL POLY
Manuel Ramirez OG 6'3" 326 TEXAS TECH
Eric Frampton S 5'11" 204 WASHINGTON STATE
Chase Johnson OT 6'8" 330 WYOMING
Round 6
Jay Alford DT 6'3" 304 PENN STATE
Earl Everett OLB 6'2" 238 FLORIDA
Chansi Stuckey WR 5'10" 197 CLEMSON
Adam Podlesh PT 5'11" 202 MARYLAND
Dane Uperesa OT 6'4" 309 HAWAII
Garrett Wolfe RB 5'7" 186 NORTHERN ILLINOIS
Deandre Jackson CB 5'11" 193 IOWA STATE
Jon Abbate ILB 5'9" 231 WAKE FOREST
Chris Leak QB 5'11" 209 FLORIDA
Clark Harris TE 6'5" 261 RUTGERS
Marvin White S 6'1" 199 TCU
Xavier Jackson DE 6'2" 278 MISSOURI
Rhema McKnight WR 6'1" 211 NOTRE DAME
Desmond Bishop ILB 6'1" 239 CALIFORNIA
Jermon Bushrod OT 6'4" 315 TOWSON
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 5'9" 198 MARSHALL
Tim Mixon CB 5'8" 184 CALIFORNIA
Enoka Lucas OC 6'2" 303 OREGON
Dan Santucci OG 6'3" 301 NOTRE DAME
Kevin Payne S 6'0" 220 LOUISIANA MONROE
Juwan Simpson OLB 6'2" 225 ALABAMA
Justin Medlock PK 5'11" 201 UCLA
Ola Dagunduro DT 6'1" 295 NEBRASKA
Mike Otto OT 6'5" 308 PURDUE
Steve Breaston WR 6'0" 193 MICHIGAN
David Jones CB 5'11" 190 WINGATE
Dante Rosario TE 6'3" 244 OREGON
Dashon Goldson S 6'2" 205 WASHINGTON
Ken Darby RB 5'10" 211 ALABAMA
Chase Pittman DE 6'4" 270 LSU
Dallas Baker WR 6'3" 208 FLORIDA
Tyler Palko QB 6'1" 215 PITTSBURGH
Round 7
Prescott Burgess OLB 6'3" 240 MICHIGAN
Jacob Ford DE 6'3" 249 CENTRAL ARKANSAS
Jared Zabransky QB 6'1" 204 BOISE STATE
Jeremy Clark DT 6'2" 309 ALABAMA
Chris Denman OT 6'6" 315 FRESNO STATE
Joel Filani WR 6'2" 211 TEXAS TECH
Scott Stephenson OC 6'3" 297 IOWA STATE
Camn Stephenson OG 6'3" 306 RUTGERS
Tyrone Moss RB 5'9" 231 MIAMI (FLA.)
Corey Graham CB 5'11" 195 NEW HAMPSHIRE
James Jones WR 6'0" 207 SAN JOSE STATE
Yamon Figurs RS 5'11" 178 KANSAS STATE
Le'Ron McClain FB 6'0" 256 ALABAMA
Kelvin Smith ILB 6'2" 240 SYRACUSE
Derek Schouman TE 6'2" 247 BOISE STATE
Daren Stone S 6'3" 218 MAINE
Kamichael Hall OLB 6'0" 228 GEORGIA TECH
Victor Degrate DE 6'2" 249 OKLAHOMA STATE
Brandon Harrison S 6'1" 227 STANFORD
Brent Curvey DT 5'11" 296 IOWA STATE
Corey Hilliard OT 6'5" 308 OKLAHOMA STATE
Ryne Robinson WR 5'9" 179 MIAMI (OHIO)
Tim Duckworth OG 6'3" 306 AUBURN
Selvin Young RB 5'11" 207 TEXAS
C.J. Wilson CB 6'1" 195 BAYLOR
Kody Bliss PT 5'10" 179 AUBURN
Jordan Palmer QB 6'5" 231 UTEP
Jonny Harline TE 6'3" 248 BYU
Matt Toeaina DT 6'2" 307 OREGON
Justin Hickman OLB 6'1" 254 UCLA
Noland Burchette DE 6'1" 259 VIRGINIA TECH
Undrafted
Herbert Taylor OT 6'3" 296 TCU
Syvelle Newton WR 6'0" 218 SOUTH CAROLINA
Uche Nwaneri OG 6'3" 325 PURDUE
Alonzo Coleman RB 5'9" 207 HAMPTON
Edgar Jones DE 6'2" 262
Reggie Lewis CB 5'10" 204 FLORIDA
Cory Anderson FB 6'2" 247 TENNESSEE
Drew Mormino OC 6'3" 299 CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Joe Newton TE 6'7" 257 OREGON STATE
Kelly Talavou DT 6'1" 307 UTAH
David Ball WR 6'0" 193 NEW HAMPSHIRE
Brandon Sharp S 5'10" 194 LOUISVILLE
Walter Thomas DT 6'3" 359
Gabe Hall OT 6'3" 313 TEXAS TECH
Michael Coe CB 6'0" 190 ALABAMA STATE
Jemalle Cornelius WR 5'10" 184 FLORIDA
Zach Diles ILB 6'2" 233 KANSAS STATE
Mike Jones OG 6'5" 309 IOWA
Jeff Rowe QB 6'5" 226 NEVADA
Dallas Sartz OLB 6'4" 235 USC
Jon Cornish RB 5'11" 206 KANSAS
Stephon Heyer OT 6'6" 334 MARYLAND
Joe Cohen DE 6'2" 313 FLORIDA
Brandon Myles WR 6'0" 183 WEST VIRGINIA
Jason Snelling FB 5'11" 230 VIRGINIA
Anthony Pudewell TE 6'4" 250 NEVADA
Craig Dahl S 6'1" 216 NORTH DAKOTA STATE
Antonio Johnson DT 6'3" 310 MISSISSIPPI STATE
Elliot Vallejo OT 6'7" 327 CAL DAVIS
Brandon Fields PT 6'4" 239 MICHIGAN STATE
Antwan Applewhite DE 6'2" 250 SAN DIEGO STATE
John Talley CB 5'11" 191 DUKE
Legedu Naanee WR 6'2" 225 BOISE STATE
Nick Folk PK 6'1" 225 ARIZONA
Jackie Battle FB 6'1" 245 HOUSTON
Lyle Sendlein OC 6'3" 298 TEXAS
Tala Esera OG 6'3" 312 HAWAII
Matt Moore QB 6'3" 191 OREGON STATE
Ramonce Taylor RB 5'10" 195 TEXAS
David Patterson DT 6'2" 285 OHIO STATE
Ken Shackleford OT 6'4" 322 GEORGIA
CJ Ah You DE 6'3" 274 OKLAHOMA
D'Juan Woods WR 6'0" 208 OKLAHOMA STATE
Gijon Robinson TE 6'0" 261 MISSOURI WESTERN
Andrew Carnahan OT 6'7" 306 ARIZONA STATE
Nick Leeson LS 6'1" 255 VIRGINIA TECH
Matt Clark PK 6'0" 181 AUBURN
Nedu Ndukwe S 6'1" 206 NOTRE DAME
Ronnie McGill RB 5'10" 213 NORTH CAROLINA
Bo Smith CB 5'10" 193 WEBER STATE
Dustin Fry OC 6'2" 314 CLEMSON
Sam Olajubutu OLB 5'8" 227 ARKANSAS
Joe Anoai DT 6'2" 277 GEORGIA TECH
Matt Trannon WR 6'6" 216 MICHIGAN STATE
Brendan Carney PT 6'3" 203 SYRACUSE
Marvin Mitchell ILB 6'3" 249 TENNESSEE
Nathan Bennett OG 6'4" 316 CLEMSON
Zac Taylor QB 6'2" 216 NEBRASKA
Brent Celek TE 6'3" 248 CINCINNATI
Thomas Clayton RB 5'10" 218 KANSAS STATE
Dan Parrish OT 6'6" 340 FLORIDA A&M
Mkristo Bruce DE 6'5" 268 WASHINGTON STATE
Trumaine McBride CB 5'9" 185 MISSISSIPPI
Mike Mason WR 5'11" 190 TENNESSEE STATE
Tully Janszen LS 6'2" 256 TEXAS
Syndric Steptoe RS 5'8" 194 ARIZONA
Jesse Ainsworth PK 6'2" 218 ARIZONA STATE
Deon Anderson FB 5'10" 243 CONNECTICUT
Kyle Young OC 6'5" 350 FRESNO STATE
Zach Latimer ILB 6'1" 237 OKLAHOMA
Kasey Studdard OG 6'2" 303 TEXAS
James Pickney QB 6'2" 208 EAST CAROLINA
Samuel Smith TE 6'2" 242 FLORIDA INTL
JD Nelson S 5'11" 207 OREGON
Cliff Ryan DT 6'2" 310 MICHIGAN STATE
Clifton Dawson RB 5'9" 206 HARVARD
Renardo Foster OT 6'6" 324 LOUISVILLE
Jay Richardson DE 6'5" 279 OHIO STATE
Brandon McDonald CB 5'10" 181 MEMPHIS
Jordan Kent WR 6'4" 217 OREGON
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2007, 09:30:53 AM
that dude Steubner was on DNL last night.
he's just a guy, that's all. he really brought no insight whatsoever.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
it almost made me angry that he was getting looked to as an expert, which he clearly is not.
he makes me mad.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 23, 2007, 10:58:37 PM
• Other possibilities in this scenario could include S Griffin, CB Houston, and OLBs Posluszny and Beason.
I want no parts of Paul Posluszny on the Eagles.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
or that theyve drafted exactly two penn state players since 1980 and NONE since brandon short
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
Romey, that looks russian
Round 1, etc.
Wow Iggs, get back to work.
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2007, 09:30:53 AM
that dude Steubner was on DNL last night.
he's just a guy, that's all. he really brought no insight whatsoever.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
it almost made me angry that he was getting looked to as an expert, which he clearly is not.
ha has no idea what he's talking about. none what so ever. i don't even think he watches tape, he hears some things from espn and just spits them out. he backs nothing up. i read his board about once a week, just to get angry i guess, and he literally just makes shtein up. says things like, "i think he'll add 20 pounds of muscle by draft time", or
the funny thing is that he's doing a 7-round mock draft on PE sometime this week. I can't wait to make fun of him. any mock after the first 3 rounds if just retarded. especially from that clown.
almost worse than him is the people who go on that draft board and legitimately ask him serious questions
matty hates him so much he responded to my post about him twice...i love it
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2007, 09:30:53 AM
that dude Steubner was on DNL last night.
he's just a guy, that's all. he really brought no insight whatsoever.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
it almost made me angry that he was getting looked to as an expert, which he clearly is not.
this guy is a douche.
SunMo's not that bad. Give him a break.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 24, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 24, 2007, 09:30:53 AM
that dude Steubner was on DNL last night.
he's just a guy, that's all. he really brought no insight whatsoever.
he claimed that the Giants might take Pozlusny because they "love" penn state players, they proved that by drafting Brandon Short in 2000. of course, it doesn't matter they have a new GM, they took Brandon Short, they must love Penn State players.
it almost made me angry that he was getting looked to as an expert, which he clearly is not.
ha has no idea what he's talking about. none what so ever. i don't even think he watches tape, he hears some things from espn and just spits them out. he backs nothing up. i read his board about once a week, just to get angry i guess, and he literally just makes shtein up. says things like, "i think he'll add 20 pounds of muscle by draft time", or
the funny thing is that he's doing a 7-round mock draft on PE sometime this week. I can't wait to make fun of him. any mock after the first 3 rounds if just retarded. especially from that clown.
Chris Steuber is to nfl draft knowledge as Yakov Smirnoff is to comedy.
nice article on all time draft busts....eagle are tied with arizona for the most
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-worstfirstroundpicks042407&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
The Jets should high up also. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2007, 04:02:03 PM
nice article on all time draft busts....eagle are tied with arizona for the most
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-worstfirstroundpicks042407&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
QuoteAnd you can't mention him without the zinger from former Eagles coach Buddy Ryan, who said Allen was a good player to have around "if you want someone to stand around and kill the grass."
BRING BACK BUDDY! Hey, at least the press conferences were fun while the team was not winning Super Bowls.
when he gets cut this summer and subsequently retires jerome mcdougle would like to put in an application for the number 15 spot thus making the eagles number 1 all by themselves
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 24, 2007, 04:15:10 PM
when he gets cut this summer and subsequently retires jerome mcdougle would like to put in an application for the number 15 spot thus making the eagles number #1 all by themselves
Also, Bunkley's working on ousting Bernard Williams, but that would net no change in the total.
Quote27. Rae Carruth, WR, Carolina Panthers (1997)
Even among the likes of Aaron Gibson and Todd Kelly, it's hard to argue this one. Say what you want about what the Panthers could have known about Carruth as a person, it's simply a disaster of a pick when a player puts out a hit on his girlfriend and unborn child and then participates in her shooting. Rae Carruth the player started out promising and then tailed off with injuries and a lack of production. Rae Carruth the human being is serving at least 18 years in prison and will always be remembered as one of the league's nightmares. In turn, that blight will be linked the Panthers forever.
Cutting-edge journalism there.
Eric Snow's brother is on there
other then jerome brown, percy snow is the best defensive player in tecmo bowl.
awesome.
QuoteI'm always annoyed when some newspaper has a columnist watch the entire NFL Draft and then file a sarcastic report about how boring it is. You know what? farg you. The Draft is an oasis in the middle of the seven excruciating months that is the NFL offseason. Millions of people like it and enjoy it. So suck my balls, Michael Wilbon:
I hate the NFL draft. I realize that saying anything against the draft amounts to blasphemy, but somebody's got to do it. The NFL draft is the most overrated, overhyped, obsessively overcovered non-event in sports. It's a nuisance, made-for-TV-by-TV event for people who couldn't tell a left tackle from a right guard, or zone from man-to-man coverage to save their mamas' lives.
Well, aren't you just so proud of yourself. Pardon the shtein outta me for getting excited about new players coming to my team. Sorry for being a fan. Cockknocker. The NFL Draft rules. You can cheer for your picks, ridicule zesty picks ("With the #3 pick, the Cleveland Browns select Brady Quinn!"), and, most importantly, get drunk. Here's how I anticipate my weekend playing out.
7:00AM – Awake. Get up to dress and feed The Girl. Let the Mrs. sleep an extra hour or two.
9:00AM – Wake up the Mrs. Have this conversation:
-"You know what today is?"
-"What?"
-(I say nothing)
-"Oh farg, not that draft thing again."
11:00AM – Find out the Raiders have signed JaMarcus Russell and paid him a $30 million signing bonus. They'll still take the full 15 minutes anyway, in hopes that ESPN will talk about the Raiders during that time span. They will not.
12:00PM – The Draft starts. Time for dynamic shots of the draftees! There's Joe Thomas in a three-point stance! There's JaMarcus Russell doing his throwing motion without the ball! There's Gaines Adams giving the camera a murderous stare and saying, "Gaines Adams. Clemson. Bitch."! That's called a montage! Oooh, it takes a montage!!
12:05PM – Berman: "Annnnnnnnddddd welcome! To the 2007 National Football League Annual Selection Meeting, also known as... THE NFL DRAFT!" Berman laughs at his own "joke". Everyone laughs with him. Start drinking immediately.
12:10PM – Berman introduces the rest of crew with an overlong, rehearsed spiel for each. Each crew member will laugh at said spiel. Except Kiper. Kiper will smirk and think to himself, "Hey look! Another joke about my hair! Never heard that one! Fat farg."
12:10PM – Time for reports straight from the outside war rooms! There's Ed Werder in Dallas! There's SalPal in Philly! There's Michele Tafoya... somewhere! Cut to Suzy Kolber presiding over a "roundtable" of current NFL player/draftniks! Do I see Corey Chavous and Jon Jansen? You bet!
12:14PM – Before the Raiders pick, all of the draft information graphics will be introduced onto my TV screen. The graphics will occupy 85% of the screen. The telecast will cut to commercial just before any important NEW information is displayed. farg.
12:15PM – The Raiders take Russell. The ESPN crew talks about the Cowboys for 12 minutes.
12:28PM – Stuart Scott interviews Russell while simultaneously massaging his balls. Russell is baffled by the challenge of trying to make eye contact with Scott. Scott gets in his trademark "athlete fist bump", giving him the approval from athletes that he so desperately craves.
12:29PM – The crew discusses trade possibilities at the 2 spot that will not come to fruition.
12:30PM – The Lions are ready to pick! Will it be Calvin Johnson? Will it be Brady Quinn? It doesn't matter, because that fargface Berman has already ruined the surprise by announcing that Joe Thomas is the pick! Hey Chris, farg you seven times over!
12:35PM – Bagel
12:45PM – The Browns take Quinn. America has a good laugh. ESPN does a 10-minute, in-depth profile of how sweet a guy Quinn is. They interview his mom, his sister, AJ Hawk, a dying 8-year-old ND fan with an oxygen tube, his Dad, and Charlie Weis. Childhood pictures will play a prominent role. By the end of the telecast, he'll be an honorary Manning brother.
12:59PM – The Bucs are ready to pick...
1:00PM – Psych! The Bucs trade the pick to the Skins for the Skins' entire 2008 and 2009 drafts. On Jimmy Johnson's trade chart, this actually is an "equal" trade. In reality, it is farging suicide. The Skins get a fresh 15 minutes on the clock. farg me.
1:27PM – Waiting for the Vikings to pick...
1:59PM – Still waiting...
2:06PM – Jesus farging Christ.
2:37PM – The Vikings select Jamaal Anderson. The ESPN crew will not discuss this until five more picks are made and I am on the shteinter.
3:12PM – Somehow, seven picks are made within the span of half an hour. I have no clue how. Eat some hummus.
3:41PM – Is it time for a stilted video conference with Jon Gruden? farg yeah!
4:23PM – The Giants take Ted Ginn. Eli Manning gets now gets an even speedier receiver to overthrow.
4:24PM – Kiper doesn't like the pick. "I don't like the pick, Boom. You got a young, developing quarterback. But he's already got that big target in Burress. What about your defense? What about replacing Tiki Barber? Let me give you a detailed outline of how the next thirty years will play out for the Giants because of this slapdick pick."
5:00PM – Masturbate.
5:01PM - Make 22 oz. rum and coke with lime. I put a shteinload of lime in there. It's tremendous. Add some Lay's potato chips in there and it's like I've masturbated all over again.
5:02PM – Mrs Drew: "Okay, enough. Turn it off." I turn it off.
6:00PM – Cuba Libre numero dos.
7:30PM – Baby asleep. Turn that shtein right back on. Scour to see who the Vikes took in Round 2. ESPN will deliberately withhold the information from me. ESPNews is even worse, and I think Cindy Brunson is dying from severe anorexia. You can see the bitch's sternum, people. And I don't even have hi-def.
7:31PM – Flip to the Simpsons. It's an episode from somewhere beyond season 6. That will not do. Flip back.
8:00PM – Jaws is talking in "I'm on TV!" voice.
8:01PM – Dinner. Who likes pad thai? I do! I do!
8:57PM – Flip back to the Draft. Trey Wingo is talking about shtein with Sean Salisbury and Mark Schlereth. Salisbury keeps looking down at his own cock. And that signals an end to my day.
11:00AM – Day 2 is here. Suzy Kolber is your new host! Berman is too busy playing golf with Eddie DeBartolo and eating children.
11:23AM – Time to ignore all the current selections in order to A) Talk about the Cowboys, B) Replay scenes from the previous day, C) Talk to Jerry Jones, D) Replay the draftee montage!
12:07PM – In between talking about the Cowboys, the crew stops to quickly rattle off the past seven draft picks, then goes right back to talking about the Cowboys. They'll do this repeatedly for the rest of the day. Time for eggs.
6:00PM – And the Draft is over. Was it exhausting? Frustrating? Annoying? Oh yeah. Would I watch it if it were on every week? farg and yes. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Wilbon.
that was majestic
Whoever wrote that > Cormac McCarthy.
Ed Werder in Dallas makes me want to kill kittens on draft day... and I'm not saying that as in the euphemism for jacking off either. I seriously want to start running over cats with my car or going all Cho Seung-Hui at the SPCA.
Quote12:35PM – Bagel
It's that time already?
I'm always annoyed when some newspaper has a columnist watch the entire NFL Draft and then file a sarcastic report about how boring it is. You know what? farg you. The Draft is an oasis in the middle of the seven excruciating months that is the NFL offseason. Millions of people like it and enjoy it. So suck my balls, Michael Wilbon:
I hate the NFL draft. I realize that saying anything against the draft amounts to blasphemy, but somebody's got to do it. The NFL draft is the most overrated, overhyped, obsessively overcovered non-event in sports. It's a nuisance, made-for-TV-by-TV event for people who couldn't tell a left tackle from a right guard, or zone from man-to-man coverage to save their mamas' lives.
Well, aren't you just so proud of yourself. Pardon the shtein outta me for getting excited about new players coming to my team. Sorry for being a fan. Cockknocker. The NFL Draft rules. You can cheer for your picks, ridicule zesty picks ("With the #3 pick, the Cleveland Browns select Brady Quinn!"), and, most importantly, get drunk.
piece should have ended right hear...nicely done
the rest of it is shtein that every single one of us joked about in the 90's
team use their full allotment of 15 minutes when they pick even tho they knew who they wanted??...no farging way!?!?!
mel kiper hair jokes are played?....no shtein they were played in 1994
the on site reporters are worthless...brilliant
the missed vikings pick was funny WHEN IT HAPPENED...the joke about it was worn out by midnight of that saturday...i remember wanting to punch people that night for wearing it into the ground
video conferencing with coaches is mind numbing??...you dont say dope...theyve only been doing it for ten years
whoever this is should be gutted for being an unoriginal thinks he funny douchebag for writing another cliche ridden draft day timeline
the draft is what it is and its been what it is since it started
rant over
interesting article on the ravens and their success at drafting...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/24/AR2007042402416.html
Top 10 draft busts of all time on NFLN now. So far:
#10 (tie) - Andre Ware & David Klingler
#9 - Heath Shuler
#8 - Lawrence Phillips
#7 - Art Schlichter
chris steuber's long awaited mock.
http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html (http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html)
might be the worst i've seen. especially the pats taking bush in round 1.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 26, 2007, 10:20:32 AM
chris steuber's long awaited mock.
http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html (http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html)
might be the worst i've seen. especially the pats taking bush in round 1.
Christ... did he get an earring?
(http://www.nfldraftpro.com/images/chrissmall.jpg)
What a flamer.
Quote from: phattymatty on April 26, 2007, 10:20:32 AM
chris steuber's long awaited mock.
http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html (http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html)
might be the worst i've seen. especially the pats taking bush in round 1.
I like that you can vote on it. I gave him an A, solely to convince him it is his calling, so that he will continue to haunt Matty's wet dreams.
he's so dreamy.
I only got to pick 6, and I'm angry. If the skins end up with Landry, that's bad news for the Eagles.
is that stueber cat an eagle fan or does he just do his thing on the emb
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2007, 10:40:14 AM
is that stueber cat an eagle fan or does he just do his thing on the emb
He's an objective journalist, just like Theismann.
F
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History of Jets draft day blunders (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98)
I have a feeling the Raiders are going to select Calvin Johnson in the first and then take Trent Edwards in the second.
I have a feeling your opinion is as useful as Chris Steuber.
don't hate the playa
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2007, 01:28:56 PM
History of Jets draft day blunders (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98)
Regarding the Jets picking Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino...
"Obviously the Jets know something that the people up here don't."
:-D
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2007, 02:34:23 PM
I have a feeling your opinion is as useful as Chris Steuber.
Noted.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 26, 2007, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2007, 01:28:56 PM
History of Jets draft day blunders (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98)
Regarding the Jets picking Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino...
"Obviously the Jets know something that the people up here don't."
:-D
SD_E is a reposter of IGY, and you are a reposter of me.
copycats (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19583.20)
Well, aren't you just the cat's meow.
I don't want to see any more of that reposting! Casey might whine! Who the farg is Casey?
Johnny "Lam" Jones says, 'hi'.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 26, 2007, 03:16:26 PM
Johnny "Lam" Jones says, 'hi'.
I thought Orlando Jones' portrayal of him in The Replacements was excellent.
Some amusing stuff here:
Mocking the draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2848328)
QuoteWith the No. 4 selection, I mock ... Wisconsin offensive tackle Joe Thomas.
Thomas, expected to be chosen no later than the fifth overall pick, is stiffing the draft so he can go fishing with his father on Lake Michigan. Goodell himself reportedly e-mailed the Badgers star with a personal request to attend the NFL festivities, but Thomas said no. Fine. How heartwarming. Except that the NFL Network is going to have an on-board boat cam to record the moment Thomas receives the call. Sellout.
Funny on several levels
QuoteWith the No. 20 selection, I mock ... the value chart.
The value chart puts a point total on each pick of the draft. For instance, the No. 1 overall pick is 3,000 points. The 255th and last pick of the draft is worth 0.45 points. I have no idea what egghead came up with the chart, or why Mike Ditka didn't consult it in 1999.
That egghead was Jimmy Johnson
Quote from: phattymatty on April 26, 2007, 10:29:16 AM
he's so dreamy.
i told that nerd steuber that his picture on his website looks better than the one on the EMB, and now he changed it. ha, what a farghead.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 25, 2007, 08:48:09 PM
Top 10 draft busts of all time on NFLN now. So far:
#10 (tie) - Andre Ware & David Klingler
#9 - Heath Shuler
#8 - Lawrence Phillips
#7 - Art Schlichter
They just did their top 10 draft steals. From what I remember:
#4 Deacon Jones - 14th round
#3 Terrell Davis - 6th round
#2 Joe Montanta - 3rd round
#1 Tom Brady - 6th round
i friendly formatted draft countdowns top 255 if anyone wants to print it out...notice tony hunt is their 90th ranked player which just so happens to be the eagles pick
ROUND 1
1. Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
2. Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
3. Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
4. Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin
5. JaMarcus Russell QB L.S.U.
6 LaRon Landry S L.S.U.
7. Patrick Willis ILB Ole Miss
8. Gaines Adams DE Clemson
9. Alan Branch DT Michigan
10. Amobi Okoye DT Louisville
11. Levi Brown OT Penn St.
12. Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas
13. Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
14. Leon Hall CB Michigan
15. Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL)
16. Adam Carriker DE Nebraska
17. Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida St.
18. Ted Ginn, Jr. WR Ohio St.
19. Paul Posluszny OLB Penn St.
20. Michael Griffin S Texas
21. Dwayne Bowe WR L.S.U.
22. B Meriweather S Miami (FL)
23. Aaron Ross CB Texas
24. Joe Staley OT Central Michigan
25. Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
26. Justin Blalock OG Texas
27. Jon Beason OLB Miami (FL)
28. Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
29. Reggie Nelson S Florida
30. Marshawn Lynch RB California
31. Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
32. Chris Houston CB Arkansas
ROUND 2
33. Ryan Kalil C USC
34. Ben Grubbs OG Auburn
35. Jarvis Moss DE Florida
36. David Harris ILB Michigan
37. Anthony Spencer DE Purdue
38. Brian Leonard FB Rutgers
39. Sidney Rice WR South Carolina
40. Eric Wright CB UNLV
41. Eric Weddle S Utah
42. Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St.
43. Trent Edwards QB Stanford
44. Arron Sears OT Tennessee
45. Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St.
46. Zach Miller TE Arizona St.
47. Drew Stanton QB Michigan St.
48. Tim Crowder DE Texas
49. Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame
50. Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas
51. Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse
52. Craig Davis WR L.S.U.
53. Ben Patrick TE Delaware
54. Justin Durant OLB Hampton
55. Quentin Moses DE Georgia
56. Michael Bush RB Louisville
57. Charles Johnson DE Georgia
58. Antonio Pittman RB Ohio St.
59. LaMarr Woodley DE Michigan
60. Kenny Irons RB Auburn
61. DeMarcus Tyler DT North Carolina St.
62. Jason Hill WR Washington St.
63. Daymeion Hughes CB California
64. Ike Alama-Francis DE Hawaii
ROUND 3
65. Steve Smith WR USC
66. Turk McBride DT Tennessee
67. John Beck QB B.Y.U.
68. Aundrae Allison WR East Carolina
69. Ray McDonald DT Florida
70. Samson Satele C Hawaii
71. Josh Wilson CB Maryland
72. James Marten OT Boston College
73. Buster Davis ILB Florida St.
74. Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame
75. Lorenzo Booker RBB Florida St.
76. Josh Beekman OG Boston College
77. Mason Crosby K Colorado
78. Stewart Bradley OLB Nebraska
79. Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
80. Doug Free OT Northern Illinois
81. Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio St.
82. Brian Robison DE Texas
83. Brandon Siler ILB Florida
84. Marshall Yanda OG Iowa
85. Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
86. Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan
87. Ryan McBean DT Oklahoma St.
88. Jacoby Jones WR Lane
89. Andy Alleman OG Akron
90. Tony Hunt RB Penn St.
91. Michael Coe CB Alabama St.
92. Aaron Rouse S Virginia Tech
93. Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska
94. Kevin Kolb QB Houston
95. Sabby Piscitelli S Oregon St.
96. Usama Young CB Kent St.
ROUND 4
97. Quincy Black OLB New Mexico
98. Jay Moore DE Nebraska
99. Paul Soliai DT Utah
100. Chris Henry RB Arizona
101. Scott Chandler TE Iowa
102. Daniel Sepulveda P Baylor
103. Anthony Waters ILB Clemson
104. John Wendling S Wyoming
105. Johnnie Lee Higgins WR U.T.E.P.
106. Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota
107. Tarell Brown CB Texas
108. Tim Shaw OLB Penn St.
109. Baraka Atkins DE Miami (FL)
110. Marcus Thomas DT Florida
111. David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
112. Leroy Harris C North Carolina St.
113. Martrez Milner TE Georgia
114. Brandon Mebane DT California
115. Stephen Nicholas OLB South Florida
116. Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech
117. Josh Gattis S Wake Forest
118. Rufus Alexander OLB Oklahoma
119. David Irons CB Auburn
120. Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
121. Kolby Smith RB Louisville
122. Paul Williams WR Fresno St.
123. Courtney Taylor WR Auburn
124. Zak DeOssie ILB Brown
125. Doug Datish C Ohio St.
126. Dwayne Wright RB Fresno St.
127. Dallas Baker WR Florida
ROUND 5
128. H.B. Blades ILB Pittsburgh
129. Rhema McKnight WR Notre Dame
130. Michael Okwo OLB Stanford
131. Laurent Robinson WR Illinois St.
132. Darius Walker RB Notre Dame
133. Gerald Alexander S Boise St.
134. Le'Ron McClain FB Alabama
135. Mario Henderson OT Florida St.
136. Chansi Stuckey WR Clemson
137. Allen Barbre OT Missouri Southern St.
138. DeAndre Jackson CB Iowa St.
139. Yamon Figurs WR Kansas St.
140. Uche Nwaneri OG Purdue
141. Adam Koets OT Oregon St.
152. Anthony Arline CB Baylor
143. Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi St.
144. Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss
145. Jermon Bushrod OT Towson
146. A.J. Davis CB North Carolina St.
147. Earl Everett OLB Florida
148. Kareem Brown DT Miami (FL)
149. C.J. Gaddis CB Clemson
150. Antwan Barnes OLB Florida International
151. Michael Johnson S Arizona
152. Mike Walker WR Central Florida
153. Clifton Ryan DT Michigan St.
154. DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
155. Julius Wilson OT U.A.B.
156. Nate Harris ILB Louisville
157. Travarous Bain CB Hampton
158. Joe Newton TE Oregon St.
ROUND 6
159. Dan Mozes C West Virginia
160. Dallas Sartz OLB USC
161. Adam Podlesh P Maryland
162. Garrett Wolfe RB Northern Illinois
163. David Jones CB Wingate
164. Steve Breaston WR Michigan
165. Tyler Palko QB Pittsburgh
166. Chris Denman OT Fresno St.
167. Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon
168. Marvin White S T.C.U.
169. Ryan Smith CB Florida
170. Chris Davis WR Florida St.
171. Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech
172. Michael Allan TE Whitworth
173. Tony Taylor OLB Georgia
174. Victor DeGrate DE Oklahoma St.
175. Dan Santucci OG Notre Dame
176. Daren Stone S Maine
177. Xzavie Jackson DE Missouri
178. Tim Mixon CB California
179. Jacob Bender OT Nicholls St.
180. Kevin Payne S Louisiana-Monroe
181. Mansfield Wrotto OG Georgia Tech
182. Juwan Simpson OLB Alabama
183. Kelvin Smith ILB Syracuse
184. Kenneth Darby RB Alabama
185. Chase Pittman DE L.S.U.
186. KaMichael Hall OLB Georgia Tech
187. C.J. Wilson CB Baylor
188. Desmond Bishop ILB California
189. Chris Leak QB Florida
ROUND 7
190. Cam Stephenson OG Rutgers
191. Eric Frampton S Washington St.
192. Clark Harris TE Rutgers
193. Jared Zabransky QB Boise St.
194. Chase Johnson OT Wyoming
195. Marvin Mitchell ILB Tennessee
196. Brandon McDonald CB Memphis
197. Derek Landri DT Notre Dame
198. Jesse Daniels S L.S.U.
199. Jordan Palmer QB U.T.E.P.
200. Legedu Naanee WR Boise St.
201. Tim Duckworth OG Auburn
202. Prescott Burgess OLB Michigan
203. James Jones WR San Jose St.
204. C.J. Ah You DE Oklahoma
205. Tala Esera OG Hawaii
206. Jemalle Cornelius WR Florida
207. Jon Abbate ILB Wake Forest
208. Scott Stephenson C Iowa St.
209. Isaiah Stanback QB Washington
210. Brandon Myles WR West Virginia
211. Ramonce Taylor RB Texas College
212. Jacob Ford DE Central Arkansas
213. Selvin Young RB Texas
214. Derek Landri DT Notre Dame
215. Ramzee Robinson CB Alabama
216. Cody Boyd TE Washington St.
217. Ryne Robinson WR Miami (OH)
218. Chinedum Ndukwe S Notre Dame
219. Corey Graham CB New Hampshire
220. Cory Anderson FB Tennessee
221. Melvin Bullitt S Texas A&M
FREE AGENTS
222. Elliot Vallejo OT Cal-Davis
223. Greg Peterson DE North Carolina Central
224. Jeff Rowe QB Nevada
225. Enoka Lucas C Oregon
226. Jay Alford DT Penn St.
227. William Gay CB Louisville
228. Mike Jones OG Iowa
229. Jackie Battle FB Houston
230. Dustin Fry C Clemson
231. Mkristo Bruce DE Washington St.
232. Courtney Brown CB Cal Poly
233. Nick Roach OLB Northwestern
234. Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma St.
235. Dante Rosario TE Oregon
236. Toby Korrodi QB Central Missouri
237. Joel Filani WR Texas Tech
238. Matt Toeaina DT Oregon
239. Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
240. Justin Hickman DE U.C.L.A.
241. Jerard Rabb WR Boise St.
242. Gijon Robinson TE Missouri Western
243. Joe Cohen DT Florida
244. Dane Uperesa OT Hawaii
245. Bo Smith CB Weber St.
246. Patrick Ghee S Wake Forest
247. Syndric Steptoe WR Arizona
248. Craig Dahl S North Dakota St.
249. Mike Otto OT Purdue
250. David Patterson DT Ohio St.
251. Chad Nkang OLB Elon
252. David Ball WR New Hampshire
253. Deon Anderson FB Connecticut
254. Nick Leeson LS Virginia Tech
255. Walter Thomas DT NW Mississippi C.C.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
204. C.J. Ah You DE Oklahoma
I want this guy based on his name alone.
That dude Walter Thomas is a run-stuffing pig. No shot they get him, but it would be nice to see a 370lb fatbody in the DT rotation. He'd be a 2-gap player by default.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
That dude Walter Thomas is a run-stuffing pig. No shot they get him, but it would be nice to see a 370lb fatbody in the DT rotation. He'd be a 2-gap player by default.
Switch Max Jean-Gilles to defensive tackle.
Done.
antonio logan-el undrafted free agent!!!
I'd have no problem with that. Hell, I still wish they had Keyonta Marshall.
I used to like watching Gilbert Brown play. I loved his gravedigga celebration.
i was looking at different teams number one picks over the last ten years....take a look at how sick the ravens and colts drafts are....no wonder they won superbowls
2006 - Haloti Ngata DT Oregon
2005 - Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
2003 - Terrell Suggs DE Arizona State
2003 - Kyle Boller QB California
2002 - Edward Reed DB Miami (FL)
2001 - Todd Heap TE Arizona State
2000 - Jamal Lewis RB Tennessee
2000 - Travis Taylor WR Florida
1999 - Chris McAlister DB Arizona
1998 - Duane Starks DB Miami (FL)
1997 - Peter Boulware DE Florida State
1996 - Jonathan Ogden T UCLA
1996 - Ray Lewis LB
2006 - Joseph Addai RB Louisiana State
2005 - Marlin Jackson DB Michigan
2003 - Dallas Clark TE Iowa
2002 - Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse
2001 - Reggie Wayne WR Miami (FL)
2000 - Rob Morris LB Brigham Young
1999 - Edgerrin James RB Miami (FL)
1998 - Peyton Manning QB Tennessee
1997 - Tarik Glenn T California
1996 - Marvin Harrison
eagles
2006 - Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State
2005 - Mike Patterson DT USC
2004 - Shawn Andrews T Arkansas
2003 - Jerome McDougle DE Miami (FL)
2002 - Lito Sheppard DB Florida
2001 - Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA
2000 - Corey Simon DT Florida State
1999 - Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse
1998 - Tra Thomas T Florida State
1997 - Jon Harris DE Virginia
1996 - Jermane Mayberry G
Post the Raiders...it should be a good laugh
all you need to know about the raiders is that they took a kicker in the first round
2006 - Michael Huff DB Texas
2005 - Fabian Washington DB Nebraska
2004 - Robert Gallery T Iowa
2003 - Nnamdi Asomugha DB California
2003 - Tyler Brayton DE Colorado
2002 - Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL)
2002 - Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern
2001 - Derrick Gibson DB Florida State
2000 - Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State
1999 - Matt Stinchcomb T Georgia
1998 - Charles Woodson DB Michigan
1998 - Mo Collins T Florida
1997 - Darrell Russell DT USC
1996 - Rickey Dudley TE Ohio State
I remember when they took Asomugha I was like "WTF"...he's turned out to be pretty good.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2007, 01:09:33 PM
all you need to know about the raiders is that they took a kicker in the first round
and he was probably their best first round pick, outside of Woodson
its just unreal...i think we all underrate how horrific it is because its another team...but seriously how mad would you be if you eagles ever picked a kicker in the first round
homicidal
Honestly
NYT: Glen "Big Baby" Davis could be drafted by an NFL team? (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/sports/football/27davis.html?_r=1&ref=football&oref=slogin)
I can't wait for the Raiders first selection tomorrow. My Raiders buddy told me that if they take Brady Quinn he's leaving the party at 12:16.
And he's a Notre Dame fanatic saying that. :-D
Houston traded the #10 pick to Denver for the Denver's 1st and 2nd...
Clayton said it isn't official yet and won't happen today, but could happen tomorrow.
QuoteRUMORS FLY OF QUINN TO RAIDERS
PFT:
There are rumors right now in media circles that the Raiders are closing in on a deal with (drum roll, please) Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, who would then be named the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network tipped us off to the rumor -- however, Schefter thinks that the rumor is not true. Mark Maske of the Washington Post acknowledges the rumor in a Friday afternoon chat, but he says he's not reporting that the deal is done.
We heard earlier in the week that the Raiders had made an initial offer to Quinn. We have since heard that, while hard numbers were not presented to Quinn's agent, Tom Condon, there was enough discussion about parameters and terms to give him a sufficient idea as to the ballpark amount of the deal.
not sure why any team would trade up to a spot like that on friday....wouldnt you rather wait to see if the guy you want is there
i think denver wants jaamal anderson
They want Willis
yeah to replace wilson but i wouldnt be 100% certain hes gonna be there....maybe thats why it hasnt been officially announced yet....they wanna wait and see whos at that spot....which is the intelligent thing to do anyway
Brady Quinn to the Raiders would be beyond excellent.
That would literally give me hours of ball-busting fun before the Eagles picked.
You're convinced he won't be a good QB? I'm not so sure.
I have no idea.
I just know that my psychotic Raider fan friend will go ballistic if they pick Quinn and that's good enough for me.
Oh...ha, good enough.
I'd guess they're at least negotiating with both quarterbacks to play one's demands against the other's.
The Quinn talk might just be to get Russell to come down on his demands.
Or....
Quinn's annoying campaign to be selected #1 overall has payed off
I was under the impression that Quinn would rather be in Cleveland with less money than be in Oakland...
You'll shoot your eye out, Chris
QuoteI probably won't sleep at all, it's like being a kid at Christmas! I will be on WIP tomorrow morning with Rhea Hughes from 8 a.m. - 10 a.m., so I may pull an all-nighter?
Why does he insist on ending every sentance with a ?
Chris Steuber will be on Rhea Hughes tomorrow? Get me a video? I could post it on YouTube?
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Chris Steuber loves you?
shame on wip...they seriously cant find a better draft "expert" than some message board poster
i mean eckel whos credibility is non existent since he picked jamarcus russel to go 9th would still be a better guy than stoober
pretty interesting list on the how the top 100 draft picks this year were rated coming out of high school...
http://recruiting.scout.com/2/640413.html
The most interesting part is in which position they were ranked... ie: Michael Bush was the #1 QB.
Brohm was the # 1 the following year.
cbs 2008 rankings
1. Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville: If he had entered this year's draft, which he considered, he might've even been the top overall pick.
2. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas: He's as good Adrian Peterson, this year's top back, if not better. McFadden has the explosive speed, plus power.
3. Sam Baker, T, USC: He will be the next in a long line of great offensive lineman from USC. He's a massive man at 6-6, 310 pounds.
4. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU: He's a power player who will see a lot of double-teams this year. Ben Grubbs, this year's top guard, said Dorsey was his toughest opponent.
5. Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC: You can never have enough good pass rushers in a draft, and this guy tops them all. He really brings it off the edge.
6. DeSean Jackson, WR, California: This junior can fly. Every time he touches the ball, the opposition has to fear the big play. He's a heck of a return man as well.
7. Jake Long, T, Michigan: He's just behind Baker on the list of top tackles. He's the key to the Michigan running game.
8. Calais Campbell, DE, Miami: This junior can be a special pass rusher. He has great size and speed. At 6-8, 265 pounds, he's huge.
9. Kenny Phillips, S, Miami: At 6-2, 205 pounds, this junior is a good tackler and has great speed. He could be the next great safety in the league.
10. Chad Henne, QB, Michigan: Don't think he's another John Navarre. I tend to think he's closer to Tom Brady than Navarre.
11. Barry Richardson, T, Clemson: At 6-7, 330 pounds, he's a huge man who is a good athlete for his size. He graduated high school in three years, so he has the smarts, too.
13. Dan Connor, LB, Penn State: The scouts think he's a much better prospect than Paul Posluszny, who went in the second round Saturday. Connor is much more active.
14. Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia: At 5-10, 195 pounds, this junior doesn't have great size but has big-play speed.
15. Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida: He had two sacks of Troy Smith in the national championship game, which served notice that Harvey will be a force in 2007. He might see more doubles with all his line mates leaving for the NFL.
16. Frank Okam, DT, Texas: At 6-5, 320 pounds, he is a power player in the middle of the Longhorns line. He does need to be more consistent.
17. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona: He enters 2007 as the class of the corner group. At 6-0, 195 pounds, he has good size and speed.
18. James Davis, RB, Clemson: He will split carries with sophomore C.J. Spiller, so Davis' numbers might not be as good as they can be. But he has feature-back skills.
19. Paul Oliver, CB, Georgia: He is a smooth cover player who did a great job on Calvin Johnson last year. In a week corner class, Oliver might be a top-15 pick.
20. James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State: At 6-3, 245 pounds, he plays the game with a nasty streak. He had 111 tackles last season and runs well for a man his size.
21. Early Doucet, WR, LSU: Some scouts say he's better than Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis, two LSU teammates who went in the first round Saturday.
23. Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU: He has a lot of raw ability and needs to show more of it in 2007. At 6-5, 290 pounds, he has great size.
24. Jared Gaither, T, Maryland: This 6-9, 330-pound junior was bothered by a back injury last season, but when healthy he's a dominant player.
25. Bruce Davis, DE-OLB, UCLA: He's a speed rusher from the defensive end spot, but might have to move to linebacker on the next level because he's only 245 pounds. He plays with a tenacious style.
26. Kenny Iwebema, DE, Iowa: His season was cut short in 2006 because of shoulder surgery. But when he's on the field, he's a force off the edge.
27. Keith Rivers, LB, USC: Said he was told he'd be a second-round pick if he had entered this year's draft. With another season, he's into the top 32.
28. Chris Long, DE, Virginia: The son of former NFL great Howie Long had a breakout season in 2006. He has a ways to go to get to his father's level, but he's coming.
29. Justin King, CB, Penn State: He's a top-end corner, but this junior was arrested last week for his part in an off-campus fight. With all the concerns about character, he better use 2007 to clear that up.
30. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas: At 6-5, 218 pounds, he is a big receiver who has made a lot of big plays the past two years. He doesn't have burning speed, but he has enough to separate.
31. Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas: He gets overshadowed by playing with McFadden, but Jones has big-play speed. On any other team, he's a star.
32. Brian Cushing, LB, USC: He played defensive end last year, but he will move to linebacker in the NFL. He would be an ideal 3-4 outside linebacker. He's a tough guy.
In the mix: John David Booty, QB, USC; Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee; Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky; Tommy Blake, DE, TCU; Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech; Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin; Ryan Clady, T, Boise State; Mike Hart, RB, Michigan; Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii; Mario Urrutia, WR, Louisville; Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State; Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri; Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC; Ali Highsmith, LB, LSU; Randy Phillips, CB, Miami; Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee; Nate Longshore, QB, California; Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame.
Not a single TE in the top 32 in sight. Delightful.
Schobel & Celek what?!?
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 02, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
Schobel & Celek what?!?
AKA a Polish Law Firm who specialize in guilty verdicts.
No excuse for McFadden not to be #1. Better prospect than Reggie Bush.
McFadden is a fun RB to watch. Everyone should check out some Arkansas games this season.
Make me!
GET CAMPBELL!