McNabb blew it, and should now play it smart and succumb to his injury. Time to play for next year.
Agreed. Post season is now squarely impossible. Time to think ahead.
Sorry, don't mean to be a negadelphian, but that loss ranks up there with THE WORST in Eagles history.
Donovan -- get your farging surgery and we'll see ya next season.
McMahon -- Congrats, you're our new starter.
Start Cole at RDE
Rest of the seasons toast, lets get a decent draft pick and move on.
Well, 4-12 would likely get us a top 5 pick in the draft. :boom
Yup. At 0-3 in the division it's pretty much a done deal now. The defense absolutely blew it tonight. Cut Sheppard.
I beat you to it.
MERGE!
I hate McMahon.
I started the same thread -- Mods please merge -- gracious.
You guys are crazy it ain't over yet.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 15, 2005, 12:20:48 AM
Cut Sheppard.
I guess you're no longer his official sponsor?
wow...mcnabb is SO dumb.
The defense?!?
They played well. McNabb didn't know his read or the play and threw the game away. Ridiculous.
So what are the needs for next year? This is an absolute heartbreaker. I'm having a hard time holding back some emotion here.
4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
GET KIWANUKA
This one is on Reid. By "this one" I mean, this farged season.
It has nothing to do with McNabb or the Eagles.
It is just destiny for the Dallas Cowboys to prevail.
Like I said, sorry.
That was the worst pick ever. Worst play by McNabb ever BY FAR. He should be benched for sucking, even if he was healthy. Since he's certainly not healthy, he should just be benched.
yea why not. mcnabb is probably done for the year.
i agree with Dio, they are farging chewing up Dallas on the ground he just has to throw the ball.
I hate being negative but this season is over. There is no way we can make up this ground. Plus with an emotional loss like this, especially how well they played most of the game, it's going to be tough to come back for.
Quote from: Claudius8110 on November 15, 2005, 12:22:32 AM
It has nothing to do with McNabb or the Eagles.
It is just destiny for the Dallas Cowboys to prevail.
Like I said, sorry.
Get out of here, corksucker.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 12:22:12 AM
4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
I expected big things from our squad during the preseason. On paper, we had all the ingredients to make it work. Now, it will take a miracle to turn this thing around. I'll bet some dude down in Georgia with the initials TO is laughing his arse off right now......
Put that in your Pipe and Smoke It Farging Eagles. You deserve to lose like that........Roy Williams took out T.O. last year and ended your season this year. C-ya
when they had to kick a FG after the shovel pass didn't work, i had a weird feeling. they could've ended it right there.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:06 AM
Put that in your Pipe and Smoke It Farging Eagles. You deserve to lose like that........Roy Williams took out T.O. last year and ended your season this year. C-ya
Eat shtein, hope your kids die of cancer.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:06 AM
Put that in your Pipe and Smoke It Farging Eagles. You deserve to lose like that........Roy Williams took out T.O. last year and ended your season this year. C-ya
Enjoy watching the postseason with us on TV. Your team sucks.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:23:38 AM
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
You're crazy dude, NO ONE in the NFC East is getting a Wild Card berth. The only way we get in is to win the division.
McNabb sucks. This team will never win with him. It took me until now to finally say it, but I'm on that bandwagon now.
Let's start McMahon for the rest of the season please. I hope McNabb is out for the year.
Oh, and yes te season is over. I've completely given up on it.
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Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 12:22:12 AM
4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
McNabb's hurt. Regardless of wins and losses, the season is over at that point.
We seriously need a merge.
GF can you start banning this farging tool? I mean seriously, they're like cockroaches.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:06 AM
Put that in your Pipe and Smoke It Farging Eagles. You deserve to lose like that........Roy Williams took out T.O. last year and ended your season this year. C-ya
Yeah your right we did deserve to lose that game, and your quote about T.O. just makes me enjoy watching Crackboy laying on the vet turf motionless.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 12:25:20 AM
McNabb sucks. This team will never win with him. It took me until now to finally say it, but I'm on that bandwagon now.
Let's start McMahon for the rest of the season please. I hope McNabb is out for the year.
Oh, and yes te season is over. I've completely given up on it.
Holy crap is this what it has come to?
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
Or some pretty strong drugs.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:06 AM
Put that in your Pipe and Smoke It Farging Eagles. You deserve to lose like that........Roy Williams took out T.O. last year and ended your season this year. C-ya
Go farg yourself flag. I wish you lived near me so I could break your farging nose.
The McNabb choke will cause people to forget the horrible job the defense did in letting the Cowboys go right into the endzone with 4 minutes left. Lito is brutal.
Quote from: TexasEagle on November 15, 2005, 12:25:49 AM
GF can you start banning this farging tool? I mean seriously, they're like cockroaches.
As long as they were here before tonight they can post stupid shtein within reason.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 15, 2005, 12:27:33 AM
The McNabb choke will cause people to forget the horrible job the defense did in letting the Cowboys go right into the endzone with 4 minutes left. Lito is brutal.
True, but Jim Johnson putting Lito on an island against Terry Glenn and blitzing 7-8 guys... not smart, either.
Hey, who is in 1st in the NFC East now? The Dallas Cowboys, the best franchise to ever grace the NFL. Philly eats SHAT! Roy Williams is an Eagle Slayer!
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 15, 2005, 12:27:33 AM
The McNabb choke will cause people to forget the horrible job the defense did in letting the Cowboys go right into the endzone with 4 minutes left. Lito is brutal.
Yeah, but they still could have won until McNabb gift wrapped the come back to Cowboys. That D score was suckage, but they didn't lose the game then.
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
Or some pretty strong drugs.
No one from the NFC North is getting a WC
Doubt anyone from the west is
1 team from the south probably will
Why can't we get one?
If Reggie Brown makes that catch we win.
TO would've made it. Again, nice job Andy. TO is laughing right now and deservingly so.
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Quote from: QB Eagles on November 15, 2005, 12:27:33 AM
The McNabb choke will cause people to forget the horrible job the defense did in letting the Cowboys go right into the endzone with 4 minutes left. Lito is brutal.
Yeah, but they still could have won until McNabb gift wrapped the come back to Cowboys. That D score was suckage, but they didn't lose the game then.
Yep stick a fork in ya...you're done for this season..barring a miracle.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 12:27:39 AM
As long as they were here before tonight they can post stupid shtein within reason.
I'd kill for an ignore button right now...
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
Or some pretty strong drugs.
No one from the NFC North is getting a WC
Doubt anyone from the west is
1 team from the south probably will
Why can't we get one?
Because the Eagles are teh suck and in last place. :P
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:29:10 AM
Why can't we get one?
I agree with you that the NFC East might get one. If you think the Eagles might, you're nuts.
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
Or some pretty strong drugs.
No one from the NFC North is getting a WC
Doubt anyone from the west is
1 team from the south probably will
Why can't we get one?
Because the team can't play a whole game.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on November 15, 2005, 12:20:40 AM
Well, 4-12 would likely get us a top 5 pick in the draft. :boom
Not sure about that. There are currently 8 teams with a 1-8 or 2-7 record right now...
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 12:28:18 AM
True, but Jim Johnson putting Lito on an island against Terry Glenn and blitzing 7-8 guys... not smart, either.
I will never understand that call ??? I mean why ??? You've got time and a compressed field working against them.
Hey S.D. Eagle, just like your worthless team, you couldn't break your way out of a wet paper bag. T.O. wouldn't have made that catch, Roy would have already taken him out of the game again. Don't worry guys, there is still tickets available to come watch us win the Super Bowl. :-D
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:29:10 AM
Why can't we get one?
Because right now they can't beat anyone in the division, they're in last place in said division... oh, and the three other teams in the division all have better records in the division thus having all the time breakers. That answer your question?
A Dallas team may one day make it back to the superbowl, but it shore won't be this one.
I still think they have a shot at at least a w/c birth, Now next week, that is for the season imo. :paranoid
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:37 AM
Don't worry guys, there is still tickets available to come watch us win the Super Bowl. :-D
Your team has about as good a chance at going to the Super Bowl as the Eagles do of the playoffs. Ie: None.
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As long as they were here before tonight they can post stupid shtein within reason.
I'd kill for an ignore button right now...
I've been here all season....
Look, this was a TEAM loss.
The defense, after dominating for most of the game, ole'd the Cowboys to that first score.
McNabb threw a horrible pass (bad read, bad route, whatever, bad pass), I don't think that a McNabb that is 100% does that. Even if he does, how many time have we actually seen him do THAT, to lose a game that we've won.
I agree with Dio and Sun, the Eagles should have been passing anyway. Run three times, punt if you have to, make the Cowboys drive the field to win. Especially the way that Gordon and Westbrook were 1-2 punching tonight.
Even after that, the Eagles had their chance to win. Reggie holds on to the ball, the Eagles win. McNabb doesn't throw that pass, the Eagles win. Lito covers the guy, the Eagles win.
A hard, hard loss to accept.
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4-5 with three games needed to overtake Dallas. Yeah, it's over.
Withthe giants losing to minn, and the skins losing to the bucs we can still get a WC birth, geesh I thought we could handle this a little better.
Delusions of grandeur
Or some pretty strong drugs.
No one from the NFC North is getting a WC
Doubt anyone from the west is
1 team from the south probably will
Why can't we get one?
Because we flat out blow. Have you been sleeping this season? NO TEAM comes back after a loss like that -- none. Seasons over, start looking at the draft and who will be available in free agency. Most likely the Giants are going to blow us out next week. :boo
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:37 AM
Hey S.D. Eagle, just like your worthless team, you couldn't break your way out of a wet paper bag. T.O. wouldn't have made that catch, Roy would have already taken him out of the game again. Don't worry guys, there is still tickets available to come watch us win the Super Bowl. :-D
I hope you see your own child murdered. By TO.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:22 AM
Not sure about that. There are currently 8 teams with a 1-8 or 2-7 record right now...
Yeah but they will probably win a few more games this year while the Eagles, well...
so....are there any streaks that haven't been broken yet this year?
winning after 2 losses....over
leading by 10+ points....over
leading at halftime....over
hosting the NFC championship...over
playoffs...over
This loss is for the best. The goal is to win the Superbowl and we have no shot at doing so. It's better to just get the high draft pick and load up next season.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 12:29:52 AM
If Reggie Brown makes that catch we win.
TO would've made it. Again, nice job Andy. TO is laughing right now and deservingly so.
Dude, the ball was knocked out of his hands. It was a great play by the Dallas DB. It was not a drop, despite what Madden said.
The team's busy creating new streaks based on incompetence.
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on November 15, 2005, 12:35:02 AM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 12:29:52 AM
If Reggie Brown makes that catch we win.
TO would've made it. Again, nice job Andy. TO is laughing right now and deservingly so.
Dude, the ball was knocked out of his hands. It was a great play by the Dallas DB. It was not a drop, despite what Madden said.
No it wasn't. If he secured it initially then it would've been a catch. He didn't have complete possession and it got knocked away. He's not a #1 receiver.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 12:32:14 AM
A Dallas team may one day make it back to the superbowl, but it shore won't be this one.
Not the way they played. I posted, I believe it was in the prediction thread, that they need to be consistent to be "back" in my book. Everything I read said they were dominated almost from start to finish, and won it on a bad throw from DM. You don't win a ton of games, let alone Super Bowls that way.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:37 AM
Hey S.D. Eagle, just like your worthless team, you couldn't break your way out of a wet paper bag. T.O. wouldn't have made that catch, Roy would have already taken him out of the game again. Don't worry guys, there is still tickets available to come watch us win the Super Bowl. :-D
For once your lazy team gets off their ass and plays us well. We've owned your sorry asses and ended your season the past five years dick!
I want the world to implode, is that asking too much?
And I'm glad that all the Cowboys fans here are purchasing their tickets to the SB after beating this Eagles team. What an accomplishment this year. ::)
I have to disagree with that. I know I am over here talking shat right now, but every team can come back after a loss like this. We got beat in this exact way not once, but twice this year already and we have come back to post a 6-3 record and now in 1st place for the NFC East. The Skins and Giants both have holes and lost to teams they were expected to beat. Another week like that out of them and a win next week by ya'll and your right back in it, at least for a Wild Card. I would think there is no way that McNabb sits and gets fixed until ya'll are really out of it either.
Quote from: Eaglez on November 15, 2005, 12:22:10 AM
The defense?!?
They played well. McNabb didn't know his read or the play and threw the game away. Ridiculous.
So what are the needs for next year? This is an absolute heartbreaker. I'm having a hard time holding back some emotion here.
I can agree with that, to some degree...
But, the offense has been LIKE AN OPEN BOOK across the boards this year...
No. I'll stop. He threw it to that a-hole from Dallas...who was so glad, "To win the game IN PHILLY..."
A-hole. I hate them. I hate them all... :boom
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:32:36 AM
I still think they have a shot at at least a w/c birth, Now next week, that is for the season imo. :paranoid
You're delusional.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:36:43 AM
I have to disagree with that. I know I am over here talking shat right now, but every team can come back after a loss like this. We got beat in this exact way not once, but twice this year already and we have come back to post a 6-3 record and now in 1st place for the NFC East. The Skins and Giants both have holes and lost to teams they were expected to beat. Another week like that out of them and a win next week by ya'll and your right back in it, at least for a Wild Card. I would think there is no way that McNabb sits and gets fixed until ya'll are really out of it either.
You are tied for first, you are not in first.
You do still have a shot at a Wild Card, see my last post above.
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I still think they have a shot at at least a w/c birth, Now next week, that is for the season imo. :paranoid
You're delusional.
maybe so, but I can still dream.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:38:04 AM
You do still have a shot at a Wild Card, see my last post above.
I don't know why you're being nice all of the sudden. Maybe because it's more cruel to give the people that will take it some false hope. Either way, you're wrong. This team needs to win this game and next week, and they failed.
No wild card. No playoffs. No Super Bowl.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:31:37 AM
Hey S.D. Eagle, just like your worthless team, you couldn't break your way out of a wet paper bag. T.O. wouldn't have made that catch, Roy would have already taken him out of the game again. Don't worry guys, there is still tickets available to come watch us win the Super Bowl. :-D
Please tell me you live somewhere in California.
actually we are in first because we beat the Giants so we hold the tie breaker. But I still think, after seeing how you were able to run the ball tonight that you have a chance to make it as a Wild Card. However, next weeks game just became a playoff game for ya. The taterskins have a very hard schedule left as do we in Cowboy land.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:38:04 AM
You do still have a shot at a Wild Card, see my last post above.
I'm sorry, but I was not talking to you.
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As long as they were here before tonight they can post stupid shtein within reason.
I'd kill for an ignore button right now...
I've been here all season....
Entirely not the point. I don't go to other message boards and avoid places like the EMB just to avoid the troll infestations that have come this year. I just don't care to deal with it (win or lose) and would rather put all you guys that come here just to talk smack and start shtein (although you've been pretty cool, Cowboys06) on ignore and make what little time I have to spend on here this season enjoyable. The last few years there'd be maybe 5 at the most. This year they're coming out of the woodwork... it's annoying.
Quote from: TexasEagle on November 15, 2005, 12:40:00 AMThe last few years there'd be maybe 5 at the most. These years they're coming out of the woodwork... it's annoying.
It sucks to be famous. All the groupies we get. It's a real bitch, you know?
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 12:34:33 AM
This loss is for the best. The goal is to win the Superbowl and we have no shot at doing so. It's better to just get the high draft pick and load up next season.
Agreed. It was clear that this just wasn't going to be the year. A win today would have just delayed the inevitable. It sucks that we won't have the excitement of the playoffs and all, but this team just had too many issues. They'll get healthy and make some changes for next year and be right back on top of the division.
No Jack Arse SD Feagle, I don't live in California, but if I did I would meet where ever. Our team is the better team this year, get used to it, live with it, accept it or die of a heart attack - what do I care. As far as giving you false hope about making the play offs, no that is not what I am doing, I am just being realistic about it. I know why ya'll are down, because we were too when we lost the same way to Washington and Seattle, but we battled back and have a respectable record at this time. Still 7 games to play.
The worst game the Cowboys played all year,on your turf,in a must win game and our non covering safety makes a play and wins it.
(http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v194/dmxinsd/eagles_suck.jpg)
the season was on life support before this game, and now the plug was pulled. anybody who thinks differently is just kidding themselves.
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If Reggie Brown makes that catch we win.
TO would've made it. Again, nice job Andy. TO is laughing right now and deservingly so.
Dude, the ball was knocked out of his hands. It was a great play by the Dallas DB. It was not a drop, despite what Madden said.
No it wasn't. If he secured it initially then it would've been a catch. He didn't have complete possession and it got knocked away. He's not a #1 receiver.
I agree to a point. In a critical moment like that Reggie needed to man up, take his game to another level, and haul that catch in. Just like I've heard countless times, if the ball hits you in the hands, you catch it, plain and simple. I hope he uses this game as a rookie learning experience and hopefully makes the catch in the future.
Yeah Roy can't cover, but he sure can kill the Eagles!
Quote from: Boyzguru on November 15, 2005, 12:42:48 AM
The worst game the Cowboys played all year,on your turf,in a must win game and our non covering safety makes a play and wins it.
(http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v194/dmxinsd/eagles_suck.jpg)
what play did he make flag? he caught a ball thrown right at him, yeah, he really stepped up. fall into a bucket of AIDS.
I guarantee the Eagles will win a Super Bowl in the next 50 years.
Quote from: lambert10 on November 15, 2005, 12:42:23 AM
No Jack Arse SD Feagle, I don't live in California, but if I did I would meet where ever. Our team is the better team this year, get used to it, live with it, accept it or die of a heart attack - what do I care. As far as giving you false hope about making the play offs, no that is not what I am doing, I am just being realistic about it. I know why ya'll are down, because we were too when we lost the same way to Washington and Seattle, but we battled back and have a respectable record at this time. Still 7 games to play.
Do me a favor -- imitate Parcell's brother for me. Thanks.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 12:45:25 AM
I guarantee the Eagles will win a Super Bowl in the next 50 years.
if you would've said that the day after they won their last one, you'd be getting nervous about your prediction.
I blame the ghost of Parcells brother for fixing the game. I think the NFL should look into the tampering.
Nope, I will not imitate PArcell's Brother, but your teams season just did!
Quote from: Boyzguru on November 15, 2005, 12:42:48 AM
The worst game the Cowboys played all year,on your turf,in a must win game and our non covering safety makes a play and wins it.
(http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v194/dmxinsd/eagles_suck.jpg)
That's because Donovan handed out a copy of the playbook/laminated card before the game began...
in fact, I bet he even put an asterisk next to the favorite plays.
:boom
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
i think that everything will be evened out if the cowboys plane crashes on their way back to dallas and they all die. that is the only thing that can make me happy.
Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
No one's jumping ship. We've all just realized that there are too many leaky holes and it's time to head back to port for some repairs.
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Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
Ok, most of us have realized that. :P
Yeah, the best this team can technically do is 11-5. That's a major improvement from last season.
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Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
What did you guys drink/smoke tonight? Please let me know, because I'd love to have some.
Why are you idiots arguing with Cowboys fans? Do you know how pathetic you look? Either ignore em and don't let them get to you our take this choke job like men.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 01:01:43 AM
Why are you idiots arguing with Cowboys fans? Do you know how pathetic you look? Either ignore em and don't let them get to you our take this choke job like men.
Take it like Men? Weren't you just saying McNabb ain't the man to win it for us?
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Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
There is optimism, and unrealistic optimism. You shouldn't be optimistic without a reason or else you will be left disappointed. There is no reason to be. McNabb got blown up and is done. This team has no pass rush, no receivers, and is 4-5. It's OVA.
Optimism with Mike McFarginMahon potentially finishing up the year is a clear sign of drug abuse.
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Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 01:01:43 AM
Why are you idiots arguing with Cowboys fans? Do you know how pathetic you look? Either ignore em and don't let them get to you our take this choke job like men.
Take it like Men? Weren't you just saying McNabb ain't the man to win it for us?
I'll decide if I wanna stick with that comment after tonight. I was furious and I spoke on anger. He chokes in big games though, I'm not going to den that.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
There is optimism, and unrealistic optimism. You shouldn't be optimistic without a reason or else you will be left disappointed. There is no reason to be. McNabb got blown up and is done. This team has no pass rush, no receivers, and is 4-5. It's OVA.
My reason is this, The team is the defending NFC champs, has been through tough times i.e. injuries and bad play before and pulled it together. Even if McMahon does come in to play who knows what they can do? THey is still hope in this divison and Conference the way it is.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:04 AM
Optimism with Mike McFarginMahon potentially finishing up the year is a clear sign of drug abuse.
There is one thing you can be optimistic for:
A good draft pick.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 01:07:47 AM
Even if McMahon does come in to play who knows what they can do?
We know they can't play 60 consecutive minutes.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:04 AM
Optimism with Mike McFarginMahon potentially finishing up the year is a clear sign of drug abuse.
Well Mikey can run better than Donnie...and as long as he can avoid the devastating 4th quarter picks and the numbskullian 2 minute farg-ups, he might just be able to do something worthwhile.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:04 AM
Optimism with Mike McFarginMahon potentially finishing up the year is a clear sign of drug abuse.
What was said when AJ came in a couple of years ago?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 01:08:51 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 01:06:04 AM
Optimism with Mike McFarginMahon potentially finishing up the year is a clear sign of drug abuse.
What was said when AJ came in a couple of years ago?
PUT IN BLAKE!!!
Bench McNabb!
All hail McMahon!
Mikey will take us to the promised land!
Cut McNabb!
Oh, I wish I could sleep and not have to read all these posts. Curses to my Eagles-induced insomnia. :boom
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 01:07:47 AM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 01:04:41 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
There is optimism, and unrealistic optimism. You shouldn't be optimistic without a reason or else you will be left disappointed. There is no reason to be. McNabb got blown up and is done. This team has no pass rush, no receivers, and is 4-5. It's OVA.
My reason is this, The team is the defending NFC champs, has been through tough times i.e. injuries and bad play before and pulled it together. Even if McMahon does come in to play who knows what they can do? THey is still hope in this divison and Conference the way it is.
This team isn't the same. Look at what this team has done uncharacteristically:
They are getting torched on defense, and letting people into the end zone, instead of holding them to field goals. Also they lost 3 games in a row and lost 3 prime time games in a row. When was the last time that happened? It's just not the same NFC Champs team. Even on paper this team isn't good enough to complete. Especially without HFA.
fun time at the chinese place on diamond just a few minutes ago:
there is two guys sitting there, both in jerseys. we just look at each other, shake our heads and put our heads back down. they end up telling me they went to the game and left with 3 minutes to go (obvious bandwagon fans). later in the chinese place, two black people start hitting each other and scream curses back and forth. then i tell this dude who stopped watching in the third what happened. he wasnt surpirsed. good times.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 15, 2005, 12:58:56 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: qwert246 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:17 AM
4-5 with 7 games to go.
Can't believe how many fans are jumping ship.
AFARGINMEN
What did you guys drink/smoke tonight? Please let me know, because I'd love to have some.
The Eagles aren't even my farging team. Go ahead and jump ship.
You want to root for a losing season go right ahead.
I'll be in the general section if you guys need me the rest of the season.
Quote from: hbionic on November 15, 2005, 01:41:56 AM
I'll be in the general section if you guys need me the rest of the season.
and by general section you mean surfing though your giant selection of gay porn?
You mean the Asian Porn is gay? Glad I never found it... :paranoid
This team is making me turn gay! :P
Quote from: Phanatic on November 15, 2005, 02:16:29 AM
You mean the Asian Porn is gay? Glad I never found it... :paranoid
The Asian Porn isn't gay dude. If it was then it would be called Gaysian Porn. And it's not. So it's not. Gay that is. Shut up!
MDS...you know...you have to try to be at least a little humorous in your posts when trying to bash me. The way you try to say I'm gay is gay.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 15, 2005, 02:18:38 AM
This team is making me turn gay! :P
If a 30 year old Mexican guy shows up at your front door dressed like a girl scout don't open the damn door. It's Chuggie and he's going to try and sell you his Caramel Delight. Whatever you do, don't order any.
This team is driving me to drink... so there's that!! :boom
Quote from: Phanatic on November 15, 2005, 02:22:12 AM
This team is driving me to drink... so there's that!! :boom
Yeah, like you don't drink when they're winning. :-D
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 15, 2005, 02:21:38 AM
If a 30 year old Mexican guy shows up at your front door dressed like a girl scout don't open the damn door. It's Chuggie and he's going to try and sell you his Caramel Delight. Whatever you do, don't order any.
farg you! I'm 29!
And he'll give you his version of Montezuma's revenge if you ignore his advances. Just hose off your roof when he eventually leaves.
Quote from: hbionic on November 15, 2005, 02:26:19 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 15, 2005, 02:21:38 AM
If a 30 year old Mexican guy shows up at your front door dressed like a girl scout don't open the damn door. It's Chuggie and he's going to try and sell you his Caramel Delight. Whatever you do, don't order any.
farg you! I'm 29!
True, but by the time you tongue bathe enough ball sacks to earn money for a plane ticket to Hawaii you'll be 30.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 02:27:22 AM
And he'll give you his version of Montezuma's revenge if you ignore his advances. Just hose off your roof when he eventually leaves.
:-D
Looks like the SB loser curse and the Madden curse are real after all. They can't be defeated.
You sure you haven't just been wearing the wrong jersey all year? Think hard now.
I wonder how this loss will feel after everyone wakes up.
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year. Like everyone finally realizes, this season is over and I hope we just lose out for a better draft pick. The last thing we want is to go 9-7, miss the playoffs and get the 17th pick in the draft. Let's get that top 10 pick, go for the best DE in the draft, sign a WR or two, go after a DT, LBs, and an O-lineman and get ready for next year.
Oh yea, and if McNabb plays next week Andy is a moron. He probably will too. Andy doesn't have the balls to bench McNabb and McNabb is too stubborn to sit even if he's hurting the team. I hope the MRI shows something bad so he doesn't have a choice. Put him on IR and let's roll with McMahon, and GO GIANTS.
West,
We ain't going 9-7. I seriously think we will finish 6-10. We have enough draft picks where we could easily deal up into the top 8, maybe 5. I can't believe we're actually talking draft after the ninth game. :-D :-D ;D :) ??? :( >:( :boom
We'll beat the Packers here, and probably the Giants here. The Giants suck on the road. The Seahawks could very well lose here. As brutal as the Eagles are, they lost by choking and have an easy schedule. Still I just hope we finish 4-12. That will get us a top 5 pick, but my hunch is they start winning meaningless games and finish 8-8/9-7 and miss the playoffs. Just the way things are going this year. The worst of all worlds.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:12:38 AM
We'll beat the Packers here, and probably the Giants here. The Giants suck on the road. The Seahawks could very well lose here. As brutal as the Eagles are, they lost by choking and have an easy schedule. Still I just hope we finish 4-12. That will get us a top 5 pick, but my hunch is they start winning meaningless games and finish 8-8/9-7 and miss the playoffs. Just the way things are going this year. The worst of all worlds.
I have the same fear, we go on this useless 4,5 game win streak and get stuck with the 18th pick.
Man, I am still so pissed off about tonight.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 15, 2005, 03:15:49 AM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:12:38 AM
We'll beat the Packers here, and probably the Giants here. The Giants suck on the road. The Seahawks could very well lose here. As brutal as the Eagles are, they lost by choking and have an easy schedule. Still I just hope we finish 4-12. That will get us a top 5 pick, but my hunch is they start winning meaningless games and finish 8-8/9-7 and miss the playoffs. Just the way things are going this year. The worst of all worlds.
I have the same fear, we go on this useless 4,5 game win streak and get stuck with the 18th pick.
Man, I am still so pissed off about tonight.
Even if we make the playoffs it's useless. I don't want to hear that dumb cliche either about if you make it you have a shot. Blah blah blah, the Eagles will be playing on the road either with an extremely beat up mentally and physically QB or with no Mcnabb at all. A coach who doesn't have a clue, no WRs, a defense that gets no pass rush. This team if it make the playoffs will lose in the first round to a team like the panthers who are extremely hungry.
I do think though if we played the Seahawks in the first round we'd probably beat them despite being as brutal as we are because the Seahawks are overrated and never win playoff games. Still, if you have no shot at winning a Superbowl it's all for nothing. Even if by the grace of the luckiest of luck we actually MADE a Superbowl which is next to impossible, we'd get SMOKED by the Steelers, Colts, Pats or Chargers.
You think we'd get smoked by the Chargers?
Yes. Despite being lucky last time, we wouldn't hold LT for 7 yards again, we will either have no McNabb or a McNabb that can barely move after that shot tonight, and being on a neutral field. No TO, going against a great run defense, and no one to throw the ball too. We wouldn't beat the Chargers again.
NO WAY
NOOO HOOOOOOOOOOW
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 03:30:23 AM
You think we'd get smoked by the Chargers?
Right now I could use a good smoke.
the season is over. even if they give a false sense of hope and by some miracle get a wild card spot or something, it's not like their even going to sniff the superbowl. bench mcnabb and sit his ass in front of film. obviously he's becoming mentally retarded because of this injury.
and what the farg is lito sheppard think he's doing. bench him. as a matter of fact, mr big balls reid should bench every piece of shtein on that team that isn't performing as expected. the seasons basically lost anyway. make a point for next year. take your team back fat ass. your the one getting canned if you keep putting teams like this on the field jerk wad.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I wonder how this loss will feel after everyone wakes up.
It feels the same as it did last night.
zesty.
I had dreams about McNabb throwing that pick over and over. What a shteinhead.
i only read the first 2 pages...but did anyone say why the FARG werent they running the ball at that time?
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I wonder how this loss will feel after everyone wakes up.
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year. Like everyone finally realizes, this season is over and I hope we just lose out for a better draft pick. The last thing we want is to go 9-7, miss the playoffs and get the 17th pick in the draft. Let's get that top 10 pick, go for the best DE in the draft, sign a WR or two, go after a DT, LBs, and an O-lineman and get ready for next year.
Oh yea, and if McNabb plays next week Andy is a moron. He probably will too. Andy doesn't have the balls to bench McNabb and McNabb is too stubborn to sit even if he's hurting the team. I hope the MRI shows something bad so he doesn't have a choice. Put him on IR and let's roll with McMahon, and GO GIANTS.
you are a farging idiot
You really are an idiot. Amazing. You really think a higher draft pick is the answer to our woes? A 50/50 crap shoot in the middle of the first round, at best? Please.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year ... GO GIANTS.
Why don't you go the whole hog and say "How 'Bout Them Cowboys" you TO-loving bandwagoner?
The next morning, I am even more pissed at McNabb. How Aaron Brooks of him it was to throw that shtein...
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 08:32:56 AM
The next morning, I am even more pissed at McNabb. How Aaron Brooks of him it was to throw that shtein...
I haven't been to bed yet. My seething rage at Andy Reid and Jimmy Johnson is keeping me awake.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I wonder how this loss will feel after everyone wakes up.
same as it did last night
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AMI'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year.
another bandwagon fan falls off the cart, see ya!
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AMI hope the MRI shows something bad
nice, you probably wanted feeley to start a few years ago too
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AMand GO GIANTS.
and don't come back
i am sad. that was one of the worst loses for me.
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on November 15, 2005, 08:41:53 AM
i am sad. that was one of the worst loses for me.
i agree, i feel the same way I felt after the NFCCG vs. Tampa, and that's saying something.
im not there sun, but this has been the worst regular season that i have been apart of. tampa and the panthers destroyed me for the month, this game has me down but not out.
its easy for me because i can place all the blame on reid and mcnabb and some on jj.
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 08:37:29 AM
I haven't been to bed yet. My seething rage at Andy Reid and Jimmy Johnson is keeping me awake.
It is ridiculous to blame the coaching. In general, it was a well-called game. A coach has to be able to trust his players to execute "surprise" plays to throw the other team off.
It's much less personal to blame the coaches, but you should be blaming the players... namely McNabb.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:01:11 AM
[It is ridiculous to blame the coaching. In general, it was a well-called game. A coach has to be able to trust his players to execute "surprise" plays to throw the other team off.
It's much less personal to blame the coaches, but you should be blaming the players... namely McNabb.
i wouldn't say it ridiculous to blame the coaching. they definitley deserve blame for the loss.
if Andy calls a better play at the goal line, and they score a TD instead of a FG, they win the game running away. if JJ doesn't leave Litoast alone on Terry Glenn and at least force the Cowboys to use more clock if they score a TD the game is different. and if Andy Reid stayed with the farging running game that had been working, instead of trying to be clever and throw the ball, they probably win the game.
i blame mcnabb for telegraphing his throw to williams.
i blame reid for shying away from the run.
i blame jj for leaving lito 1 on 1 against glenn. i blame jj for playing prevent. i blame jj for a zone blitz that left all the LBs in zone and most of the DBs blizting....61 yards to price and then a TD to barber a few plays later.
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
i agree with you, and Donovan deserves a majority of the blame. but why are they throwing at that point in the game. you can't overlook what a terrible decision that was. Andy and JJ did call good games, yes. But only for 55 minutes, then they shtein the bed at the end.
the JJ blitz leaving Lito 1 on 1 can't be underestimated. you have to make them drive the field and earn a TD in that situation. the absolute worst possible thing you can do is give up a quick score.
I had no problem with the playcalling on the INT. The Cowboys were expecting the run...they had timeouts. I'd rather go for the first down than run it three times straight up the gut, punt, and then have Bledsoe lead a comeback.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 15, 2005, 03:10:05 AM
West,
We ain't going 9-7. I seriously think we will finish 6-10. We have enough draft picks where we could easily deal up into the top 8, maybe 5. I can't believe we're actually talking draft after the ninth game. :-D :-D ;D :) ??? :( >:( :boom
im actually hoping for 6-10, at least a top 15 DP. As for what we need, wow alot. Runyan is gone and although he got flagged 3x last nite its scary to think someone else taking his place. DTs on this team B L O W. Need a replacement LB for the Sim/Adams combo. A real #1 WR would help. Oh and a GM who has an eye for talent, cause ARs drafts havent been exactly GREAT
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:12:36 AM
I had no problem with the playcalling on the INT. The Cowboys were expecting the run...they had timeouts. I'd rather go for the first down than run it three times straight up the gut, punt, and then have Bledsoe lead a comeback.
There is nothing defensible in the call to throw into the flat when you're that close the endzone, down by 6, with the clock ticking. That is simply unnacceptable. If you must throw the ball, do it down the middle, or well downfield. Christ.
the play call was bad, there's no defending it. it wasn't like the Eagles were averaging less than 2 yards per carry or anything, they were running all over the Cowboys. they only got 1 yard on the 1st play, and it's like Andy panicked and went to the pass. you at least run the ball again, make them use another timeout and think about a pass on 3rd down, and even then, a safe pass like a screen.
Well, you have to hope your QB will know the situation and exercise more caution in these instances. McNabb didn't have to make that throw (in fact, I'm reading that it was he who misread the play, not Reggie Brown).
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:18:07 AM
(in fact, I'm reading that it was he who misread the play, not Reggie Brown).
absolutely, Reggie Brown saw that Williams had come to the line of scrimmage and he went deep with single coverage. McNabb didn't see Williams come up and thought the route was supposed to stay a hitch.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 12:25:20 AM
McNabb sucks. This team will never win with him. It took me until now to finally say it, but I'm on that bandwagon now.
Let's start McMahon for the rest of the season please. I hope McNabb is out for the year.
Oh, and yes te season is over. I've completely given up on it.
McNabb sucks?
The Eagles aren't yet mathematically eliminated so I think they should start McNabb until they are.
Yes, it was a well called game for the most part, but the coaches tanked and choked in the last four minutes. We all know Lito has sucked this season, so don't put him on a fargin' island with Dallas coming back. And Dio is dead right on the throwing the ball into the flat call.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:18:05 AM
the play call was bad, there's no defending it. it wasn't like the Eagles were averaging less than 2 yards per carry or anything, they were running all over the Cowboys. they only got 1 yard on the 1st play, and it's like Andy panicked and went to the pass. you at least run the ball again, make them use another timeout and think about a pass on 3rd down, and even then, a safe pass like a screen.
What happened prior doesn't matter.
The Cowboys were going to sell out on the run. This is what teams do when they're behind and they need a stop. the chances of picking up a first running were slim.
In fact, if Reid had run the ball 3 straight times (which he did the previous drive), punted, and then the Cowboys score and win the game, everyone would be blasting him for being too conservative and not "playing to win".
If Reggie Brown makes that catch, all the Cowboy fans are yelling at Parcells for doing just this...playing not to lose.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:18:07 AM
(in fact, I'm reading that it was he who misread the play, not Reggie Brown).
absolutely, Reggie Brown saw that Williams had come to the line of scrimmage and he went deep with single coverage. McNabb didn't see Williams come up and thought the route was supposed to stay a hitch.
At the end of the day, don't put your players in a position where a miscommunication could cost you a touchdown,
which is exactly what happened. It was second-and-7 - not even third fargin' down, we were running the ball well. Farg me,
run the goddamn football.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:23:33 AM
The Cowboys were going to sell out on the run.
So run the ball on second down, use some time off the clock, possibly hit 'em with a play action on third down.
LOL - this dumping on Reid's playcalling is getting so old. It wasn't supposed to be thrown to the flat - it was a fly pattern. McNabb missed the read and blew it. And since when is there only one place to throw the ball? The Eagles do send more than one receiver out don't they? McNabb misread the play and then missed seeing Williams sitting there on it. That's on him.
And I'm sorry, there is little chance the Eagles would have gotten a first down if they had run three straight times there. Dallas had everyone up to stop the run. You all would have been screaming "why'd we just run the ball three straight times", if they hadn't gotten the first by running the ball.
Some blamed Reid earlier for not having the "balls" to go for the TD instead of a FG. Now you blame him for having the "balls" to try to win the game by throwing to get a first down rather than just handing Dallas the ball back with plenty of time?
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 09:23:45 AM
At the end of the day, don't put your players in a position where a miscommunication could cost you a touchdown, which is exactly what happened. It was second-and-7 - not even third fargin' down, we were running the ball well. Farg me, run the goddamn football.
that's basically what i've been saying all morning.
Quote from: PhillyFan on November 15, 2005, 09:26:47 AM
LOL - this dumping on Reid's playcalling is getting so old. It wasn't supposed to be thrown to the flat - it was a fly pattern. McNabb missed the read and blew it. And since when is there only one place to throw the ball? The Eagles do send more than one receiver out don't they? McNabb misread the play and then missed seeing Williams sitting there on it. That's on him.
yes, we know. that's been acknowledged over and over. but the pass play should've never been called in the 1st place.
QuoteAnd I'm sorry, there is little chance the Eagles would have gotten a first down if they had run three straight times there.
glad to see you can see into the future like that.
QuoteSome blamed Reid earlier for not having the "balls" to go for the TD instead of a FG. Now you blame him for having the "balls" to try to win the game by throwing to get a first down rather than just handing Dallas the ball back with plenty of time?
totally different situations. on 4th down, the FG was the correct play. my beef is the playcall on 3rd down, you have to run a better play than one that send Westbrook into the middle of a goal line defense. it was nothing to do with balls.
and as far as the end of game strategy. you need to run the ball at least on 1st and 2nd down. even if you give them the ball back after 3 plays, it's better them to have to drive down the field with 1 or no timeouts instead of even leaving the
chance of something bad happening on a pass.
in that situation, 2 or 3 things that can happen on a pass are bad, it's either caught (good), incomplete (bad, clock stops), or intercepted (terrible). run the ball, drip the clock, and play the defense that had them bottled up all game.
It was bad play calling, they didn't stretch the field enough, blah, blah, blah. Its all true, but it comes down to one thing. The way this team is built and run, it all begins and ends with McNabb. Midway thru the 4th quarter, when you saw McNabb gimping back to the huddle, you had to get that sick feeling. He cannot effectively deliver the ball (with any consistency) when he is hurting. You either adjust to that and run, or you pull him and put McMahon in.
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT. Nothing galled me more than watching the friggin Jones clan whooping it up in their box at the stadium after the INT return.
We're 4-5, would have to run the table to get into the playoffs. If I was Reid, I'd be FORCEFUL and tell McNabb he's going on IR and lean on the running game and the defense that's given up what, 142 yards rushing the last two weeks.
I'd also make a change at CB--Sheppard isn't getting the job done. If you have to shake him up by putting Hood or Ware into that spot, then do it. He gets caught TOO OFTEN looking into the backfield, which he did YET AGAIN, and tries to depend on closing speed to catch up to the reciever.
Luckily, I had to go to work right after the game, but I've had plenty of time to stew over it.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
the play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
the play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?
Part of my point. If there's a risk where either the QB or WR could misread the play, in that situation it was a disastrous call.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.
On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:39:04 AMthe play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?
I'm no football genius, but on that particular play, I think not. The reciever's job when he saw the safety come up was to get down field so IF the QB threw the ball, it would be over the safetie's play, and the WR has just a 1 on 1 coverage.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.
On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.
yeah, because of a bad blitz call by JJ, i'm willing to bet that they would've gone back to playing the way they played all game.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.
On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.
Yeah, and in the previous 56 minutes they'd scored seven points and punted eight times.
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
the play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?
Part of my point. If there's a risk where either the QB or WR could misread the play, in that situation it was a disastrous call.
well thats not my point at all.
it wasnt a disasterous call. it was disasterous execution. christ, how many people have gone on about vermiel and gruden the past few weeks for "going for the win"...this is the same thing.
someone grossly misread the play, either the WR or the QB, and the truth is as fans, we will never know who actually misread the play so badly, hell it could have been both. but we will never know, despite all the armchair caoches we seem to have.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.
On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.
yeah, because of a bad blitz call by JJ, i'm willing to bet that they would've gone back to playing the way they played all game.
oh so now you can see into tthe future
I am so farging tired of this team ripping my heart out of my chest and pissing on it.
McNabb has proven one thing to me: He could'nt win a game in college that mattered, and he can't win a game now when it matters. farging bum.
I am sick to my stomach over this. I am tired of this shtein.
Lito makes a great play, and gets burned big time. He's a bum, too. farging bums, all of 'em.
Way to go iceholes.
actually, it's pretty obvious that McNabb misread the play. so many of the routes in the WCO are read-based routes. the safety jumped up into the play, thus the read was for Reggie Brown to go deep. McNabb didn't see Williams and threw the anticipated hitch route.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.
On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.
yeah, because of a bad blitz call by JJ, i'm willing to bet that they would've gone back to playing the way they played all game.
oh so now you can see into tthe future
no, i said i was willing to bet that they would do that. do you understand what that means? it means that I belive, in my opinion, that's what would've happened. i made no guarentees or concrete statments.
i based my opinon on how they played for 55 minutes, not based on one score given up on a bad defensive call.
I don't believe the miscommunication is that much an issue.
Even if Brown and McNabb were on the same wavelength, the pass would've still been intercepted. McNabb appeared to be throwing an out...the ball never made it to the sidelines.
When passing the football, the QB's #1 priority is to look out for the safety.
McNabb didn't and we lost.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:51:46 AM
actually, it's pretty obvious that McNabb misread the play. so many of the routes in the WCO are read-based routes. the safety jumped up into the play, thus the read was for Reggie Brown to go deep. McNabb didn't see Williams and threw the anticipated hitch route.
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.
I think Reid, especially, called a very good game. Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.
The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss. That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.
the play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?
Part of my point. If there's a risk where either the QB or WR could misread the play, in that situation it was a disastrous call.
well thats not my point at all.
it wasnt a disasterous call. it was disasterous execution.
It was disastrous both.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:53:58 AM
I don't believe the miscommunication is that much an issue.
Even if Brown and McNabb were on the same wavelength, the pass would've still been intercepted.
I disagree. If they "were on the same wavelength," McNabb would have lobbed the ball down-field, over Williams' reach, into one on one coverage.
the eagles had the game in the bag, but they played like it was already over in the 3rd. they had way too many 3 and outs and look what happened. bad play calling imo and the urgency to keep the cowboys out of it was none. run up the fargin score. lito shepard is bait. of all the times in the game, u put dawkins in the box and leave lito one on one with glenn. great call JJ! McNabb farged up again. I don't want to ear excuses about oh it was the receiver...McNabb farged up and lost the Skins game for us and now this week with the cowpukes...and we kicked the shtein out of the cowboys. as far as i am concerned this season is over. we have a lame kicker in Akers and the special teams, we have no receivers, we have sketchy play calling on both sides of the ball, and we have a unpredictable QB with a field vision of none for a QB. Im so pissed off at the team. lack of consistency...i have no faith in them after last night. i am just disgusted :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke
I would like to state for the record that I won't be able to stop myself from watching each and every last game this team plays this season and cheering as mightily as always. That's why the fact that the season's toast really hurts.
I hate to love 'em, and I love to hate 'em. Fargin' Eagles.
Shades of Aeneas Williams, Ronde Barber, et al.
I, for one, am tired of defending McNabb's idiotic play when the chips are down. What's even more nauseating is defending him in situations where a stupid play on his part steals defeat for the Eagles from the jaws of victory.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:49:54 AM
someone grossly misread the play, either the WR or the QB, and the truth is as fans, we will never know who actually misread the play so badly, hell it could have been both. but we will never know, despite all the armchair caoches we seem to have.
From Spew:
Lamar Gordon gained 3 yards on first down. Then the Eagles called a passing play and Brown, seeing press coverage by the Dallas defense, did what he was supposed to do and ran a go route.
However, for some reason, McNabb wasn't on the same page as Brown. McNabb threw a pass designed for a hitch route -- with a 6-yard depth -- and the only player in the vicinity of the throw was Dallas safety Roy Williams, who made the catch and raced down the left sideline for a touchdown as Lincoln Financial Field fell silent.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 15, 2005, 10:12:52 AM
Shades of Aeneas Williams, Ronde Barber, et al.
I, for one, am tired of defending McNabb's idiotic play when the chips are down. What's even more nauseating is defending him in situations where a stupid play on his part steals defeat for the Eagles from the jaws of victory.
still have to blame the coaches for some of this. The prevent D failed for the 1st TD, then Reid calls a low percentage pass to a rookie who dropped 2 catchable balls earlier in the game. Oh and Lito BLOWS, and Michael Lewis should tackle instead of always trying to strip the ball. The D did play one heck of a 57 minute game though.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:55:45 AM
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
stop it, you're wrong. it is obvious what happened, maybe not for you, but for people who understand what's going on.
Laying it off on the coaches shoulders is a cop out.
The players are responsible for what happens between the sidelines, not the coaches.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 15, 2005, 10:23:32 AM
Laying it off on the coaches shoulders is a cop out.
The players are responsible for what happens between the sidelines, not the coaches.
why does it have to one or the other?
i think it was a total collapse between JJ, Lito, Donovan, and Reid
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 10:23:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:55:45 AM
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
stop it, you're wrong. it is obvious what happened, maybe not for you, but for people who understand what's going on.
i am not wrong. and at the same time neither are you...
it's opinion and speculation, unless you were on the sideline hearing the playcall.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 10:23:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:55:45 AM
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
stop it, you're wrong. it is obvious what happened, maybe not for you, but for people who understand what's going on.
i am not wrong. and at the same time neither are you...
it's opinion and speculation, unless you were on the sideline hearing the playcall.
i don't need to hear the playcall, i saw the play and understand what happened. something, by the way, that has been confirmed by the coach. Reggie Brown ran the right route, so that leaves only one other person to farg up the play. Whoever could that be???
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 10:27:29 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 10:23:21 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:55:45 AM
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
stop it, you're wrong. it is obvious what happened, maybe not for you, but for people who understand what's going on.
i am not wrong. and at the same time neither are you...
it's opinion and speculation, unless you were on the sideline hearing the playcall.
i don't need to hear the playcall, i saw the play and understand what happened. something, by the way, that has been confirmed by the coach. Reggie Brown ran the right route, so that leaves only one other person to farg up the play. Whoever could that be???
yeah...and reid has always just openly given any information at his press conferences.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 10:31:10 AM
yeah...and reid has always just openly given any information at his press conferences.
what are you talking about? he said that Reggie Brown ran the right route. if they both farged up, he wouldn't have said that. stop with your losing arugement, you are starting to sound silly.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 10:27:29 AMi don't need to hear the playcall, i saw the play and understand what happened. something, by the way, that has been confirmed by the coach. Reggie Brown ran the right route, so that leaves only one other person to farg up the play. Whoever could that be???
Parry?
Seriously, you're wasting your time. It's clear the INT is on McNabb for failing to read the play, and before that on Reid for calling a pass [to the flat no less!!] on 2nd down.
Wingnut is obstinate in his opinion, regardless how mistaken it is, so just let him have it. Let's move on to bickering about something new.
Reggie Brown stank.
QuoteReid for calling a pass [to the flat no less!!]
Reid didn't call a pass into the flat; only McNabb thought about throwing it there.
He may've been dialing up the long ball to Brown.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:34:34 AM
Reggie Brown stank.
that's for sure, how many drops did he have? i'm not even talking about that last play, that was a tough catch and the defender made a nice play.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:37:05 AM
QuoteReid for calling a pass [to the flat no less!!]
Reid didn't call a pass into the flat; only McNabb thought about throwing it there.
He may've been dialing up the long ball to Brown.
I'm not going to bicker with you about whether the hitch was called or not. Point is, passing at all was a bad call, and a bad read.
Passing is a bad call if you're playing not to lose.
But Reid has demonstrated throughout his tenure that he's an aggressive playcaller.
This is a call Jimmy Johnson -- the perpetually tan one -- would make. He puts the ball into his players' hands and expects them to deliver.
Unfortunately, ours didn't.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:37:05 AM
QuoteReid for calling a pass [to the flat no less!!]
Reid didn't call a pass into the flat; only McNabb thought about throwing it there.
He may've been dialing up the long ball to Brown.
I'm not going to bicker with you about whether the hitch was called or not. Point is, passing at all was a bad call, and a bad read.
Passing wasn't a bad option there, Dio. If the play had worked, everyone would be praising Reid for his daring play calling.
Since it didn't work, everyone is hammering him for taking a risk.
Bottom line... it blew up in their faces. So, they move on and concentrate on the Vadges and hope like hell that the season can still be salvaged.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 15, 2005, 10:57:53 AM
Passing wasn't a bad option there, Dio. If the play had worked, everyone would be praising Reid for his daring play calling.
Since it didn't work, everyone is hammering him for taking a risk.
Bottom line... it blew up in their faces. So, they move on and concentrate on the Vadges and hope like hell that the season can still be salvaged.
i know, for me, as soon as Donovan gave that half-ass playfake, i started to say, "What the f..." and then finished that statement after RW trotted into the endzone.
i think you run the ball on 2nd down and see how many yards you need for 3rd down before you decide either way.
my opinon on the 2nd down play may have been different if they were not able to run the ball all game, but they were, they were chewing Dallas up. the 1st down play to Gordon wasn't even to the side where they had the most success, the right side. i would've let Westbrook go off-tackle on the right side on 2nd down and see what that got you.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 15, 2005, 10:57:53 AMPassing wasn't a bad option there, Dio.
We disagree. I'm moving on.
Somebody farging kill me now.
I'm not even going to trip on the dumbass decision to throw the ball nor am I going to trip on the fact that Donovan McNabb made a horrendous play.
I'm going to trip on:
1. The defense allowing the Cowboys to waltz down the motherfarging field in 40 goddamn seconds.
2. Jose Cortez farging blows. Good field position, icehole. Thanks.
3. The fact that the Birds had 1st and goal in the 4th quarter and could not punch it in the end-zone killed us!! It was 17-7. A TD there and you are at 24-7.
Great game by the Birds up until the 4:00 mark in the 4th quarter.
I am angry.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 10:34:34 AM
Wingnut
:-D :-D
ooooo...thats a good one!
and it's BOLDED....double sweet!
:-D :-D
i forget, do they do the day after PC late or not at all after a Monday night game?
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:48:07 AM
Passing is a bad call if you're playing not to lose.
But Reid has demonstrated throughout his tenure that he's an aggressive playcaller.
This is a call Jimmy Johnson -- the perpetually tan one -- would make. He puts the ball into his players' hands and expects them to deliver.
Unfortunately, ours didn't.
Our running game was working, why didn't Andy put the ball in their hands. They might have delivered.
Well, that pretty much puts the finishing touches on what could very well be the worst coaching performance of any head coach in the history of the NFL. Andy Reid, for some inexplicable reason, having shown so much talent over the last five years, has suddenly performed with about as much talent as a blind Pop Warner Head Coach. What Reid has done this year is inexcusable, and if there was such a thing as Head Coaching Laws and Police, you'd see Reid sentenced to life in prison for the coaching catastrophe that he's exhibited this year. He makes Steve Spurriers failed stint with the Fun & Gun in Washington look like a Bill Bellichick sidekick.
Quote from: hydrocodone on November 15, 2005, 11:54:54 AMHe makes Steve Spurriers failed stint with the Fun & Gun in Washington look like a Bill Bellichick sidekick.
Hyperbole much?
I thought that this was one of Reid's better-coached games during the season. People are looking at one pass play on 2nd & 7 late in the game, and putting it all on Reid. Ridiculous. He makes mistakes, but he showed me yesterday that he was able to adjust to the personnel, and he called plays pretty well.
It was a total team loss. Except for McNabb and Lito, who deserve a little extra blame.
Quote from: hydrocodone on November 15, 2005, 11:54:54 AM
Well, that pretty much puts the finishing touches on what could very well be the worst coaching performance of any head coach in the history of the NFL. Andy Reid, for some inexplicable reason, having shown so much talent over the last five years, has suddenly performed with about as much talent as a blind Pop Warner Head Coach. What Reid has done this year is inexcusable, and if there was such a thing as Head Coaching Laws and Police, you'd see Reid sentenced to life in prison for the coaching catastrophe that he's exhibited this year. He makes Steve Spurriers failed stint with the Fun & Gun in Washington look like a Bill Bellichick sidekick.
Total gayness...what a loser!
ANDY REID DESERVES TO BE FIRED FOR HIS PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR. He gets no free passes, cuz he never won the Super Bowl, so what's happened up to now doesn't count. His blunders this year are of epic proportion, and are rivaled only by the likes of Steve Spurrier, Mike Shula, and a few select no-names that never did anything for their team. Reid is a pathetic coach, who couldn't game-plan his way out of a wet paper bag.
Quote from: hydrocodone on November 15, 2005, 12:01:38 PM
ANDY REID DESERVES TO BE FIRED FOR HIS PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR.
Go to hell, man.
Quote from: hydrocodone on November 15, 2005, 12:01:38 PM
ANDY REID DESERVES TO BE FIRED FOR HIS PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR. He gets no free passes, cuz he never won the Super Bowl, so what's happened up to now doesn't count. His blunders this year are of epic proportion, and are rivaled only by the likes of Steve Spurrier, Mike Shula, and a few select no-names that never did anything for their team. Reid is a pathetic coach, who couldn't game-plan his way out of a wet paper bag.
Please find a new team for which to root. Thanks a bunch.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 12:13:32 PM
Please find a new team for which to root. Thanks a bunch.
Yeah, what he said.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 15, 2005, 11:59:20 AM
Quote from: hydrocodone on November 15, 2005, 11:54:54 AM
Well, that pretty much puts the finishing touches on what could very well be the worst coaching performance of any head coach in the history of the NFL. Andy Reid, for some inexplicable reason, having shown so much talent over the last five years, has suddenly performed with about as much talent as a blind Pop Warner Head Coach. What Reid has done this year is inexcusable, and if there was such a thing as Head Coaching Laws and Police, you'd see Reid sentenced to life in prison for the coaching catastrophe that he's exhibited this year. He makes Steve Spurriers failed stint with the Fun & Gun in Washington look like a Bill Bellichick sidekick.
Total gayness...what a loser!
I totally agree. Reid is a total loser, who needs to learn how to coach his team instead of relying on his instincts and pathetic chances that he likes to take. What a loser!
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:48:07 AM
Passing is a bad call if you're playing not to lose.
But Reid has demonstrated throughout his tenure that he's an aggressive playcaller.
This is a call Jimmy Johnson -- the perpetually tan one -- would make. He puts the ball into his players' hands and expects them to deliver.
Unfortunately, ours didn't.
Our running game was working, why didn't Andy put the ball in their hands. They might have delivered.
Doesn't matter.
The Cowboys are selling out to stop the run. It is difficult to run against that
The taterskins did the exact same thing yesterday...they were running at will vs. the Bucs, then Gibbs ran 3 straight plays when they were up by a TD...they didn't get the first...Chris Simms then leads a game-winning TD...Gibbs is subsequently questioned for his "conservative" playcalling.
Should've ran a screen pass there.
I was calling for the screen forever last night. Especially in a situation when the Cowboys were selling out to stop the run and get the ball back.
Screen pass there = huge gain = game over.
Farg.
Quote from: Eaglez on November 15, 2005, 12:23:25 AM
I hate being negative but this season is over. There is no way we can make up this ground. Plus with an emotional loss like this, especially how well they played most of the game, it's going to be tough to come back for.
Dude, that's not being negative, that's just being realistic.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:06 PM
Should've ran a screen pass there.
I was calling for the screen forever last night. Especially in a situation when the Cowboys were selling out to stop the run and get the ball back.
Screen pass there = huge gain = game over.
Farg.
they ran one screen pass, for a good gain if I remember correctly and then never again.
Westbrook should be a screen monster, it's the perfect play for him.
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:48:07 AM
Passing is a bad call if you're playing not to lose.
But Reid has demonstrated throughout his tenure that he's an aggressive playcaller.
This is a call Jimmy Johnson -- the perpetually tan one -- would make. He puts the ball into his players' hands and expects them to deliver.
Unfortunately, ours didn't.
Our running game was working, why didn't Andy put the ball in their hands. They might have delivered.
Doesn't matter.
The Cowboys are selling out to stop the run. It is difficult to run against that
The taterskins did the exact same thing yesterday...they were running at will vs. the Bucs, then Gibbs ran 3 straight plays when they were up by a TD...they didn't get the first...Chris Simms then leads a game-winning TD...Gibbs is subsequently questioned for his "conservative" playcalling.
Correct. In case you didn't notice, Andy Reid called for a pass, which was intercepted and ran back for a game-winning touchdown. I guess BOTH Reid and Gibbs are dumb arses? Oh no wait, only Gibbs is because he was being too conservative, whereas Andy had "balls". ::) I'm going round in circles now. I'm done with this.
I've noticed on more than one occasion that Andrews fails to get out in front and hit someone when he's blocking for the screen. Westbrook usually just has to run right by him.
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 10:48:07 AM
Passing is a bad call if you're playing not to lose.
But Reid has demonstrated throughout his tenure that he's an aggressive playcaller.
This is a call Jimmy Johnson -- the perpetually tan one -- would make. He puts the ball into his players' hands and expects them to deliver.
Unfortunately, ours didn't.
Our running game was working, why didn't Andy put the ball in their hands. They might have delivered.
Doesn't matter.
The Cowboys are selling out to stop the run. It is difficult to run against that
The taterskins did the exact same thing yesterday...they were running at will vs. the Bucs, then Gibbs ran 3 straight plays when they were up by a TD...they didn't get the first...Chris Simms then leads a game-winning TD...Gibbs is subsequently questioned for his "conservative" playcalling.
Correct. In case you didn't notice, Andy Reid called for a pass, which was intercepted and ran back for a game-winning touchdown. I guess BOTH Reid and Gibbs are dumb arses? Oh no wait, only Gibbs is because he was being too conservative, whereas Andy had "balls". ::) I'm going round in circles now. I'm done with this.
The difference being, of course, that Gibbs has Three Super Bowl trophies to Andy Reids uh, eh, ummmm, how many? Oh, that's right, ZERO!
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 08:30:57 AM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year ... GO GIANTS.
Why don't you go the whole hog and say "How 'Bout Them Cowboys" you TO-loving bandwagoner?
I want what's best for this team. The best thing right now for the team is a better draft pick, and for McNabb to have surgery now so he can be 100% ready to go next year. Do I want the team to win a Superbowl still? Of course, but it's not going to happen. This team doubtfully will make the playoffs, and if it does it has no chance of going to the Superbowl, which is the ultimate goal.
Losing out and just putting an end to this season is just the best thing right now. Have a ball going all out for the team. A playoff berth is meaningless to me now. Been there, done that. I want a Superbowl.
If you will be satisfied with finishing 7-9 and ending on a high note or finishing 9-7 and losing in the first round of the playoffs then fine. Don't complain though when we are unable to draft the best pass rusher in the draft and we continue to have no pass rush next year.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 08:30:57 AM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year ... GO GIANTS.
Why don't you go the whole hog and say "How 'Bout Them Cowboys" you TO-loving bandwagoner?
I want what's best for this team.
Which would be a bandwagon douche like yourself to go root for the Giants. :yay
Why haven't these two idiots been banned or something?
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 15, 2005, 04:24:31 PM
Why haven't these two idiots been banned or something?
I might agree with you on WEST, but MURP is dead on. Besides, it is always better to allow someone to play themselves outwith their own words, its more fun too.
Nah, i meant hydro and alvin.
Quote from: MURP on November 15, 2005, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:33:08 PM
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Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 03:02:21 AM
I'm not going to be rooting for this team the rest of the year ... GO GIANTS.
Why don't you go the whole hog and say "How 'Bout Them Cowboys" you TO-loving bandwagoner?
I want what's best for this team.
Which would be a bandwagon douche like yourself to go route for the Giants. :yay
The Giants beating us on sunday is the best thing for this team. It may take a while for you to see things my way, but if we miss the playoffs 4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PMThe Giants beating us on sunday is the best thing for this team. It may take a while for you to see things my way, but if we miss the playoffs 4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
You're wrong. I myself have a few tickets left for this year, and I wanna see a good game and a good effort ... by the whole team. I didn't see that last night, I saw some guys laying it all out and a few going braindead. That is not satisfying. This is my team, and I wanna see them win. Hypothetically, if they tanked or fell apart, and grab a top 5 pick, and draft a Ryan Leaf, how does that help me as a paying fan? Worse yet, they draft the next Joe Montana, and I get run over buy a bus in the offseason.
This is about today. Its about entertainment and distraction in an all too short lifetime. It is about loyalty. It is about effort. It is about winning. It is about unity and community. If you don't get it, you just don't get it. But if you really want them to lose so bad that you would root against them, just to put a high round draft pick in the hands of the current owner/caretaker, go right ahead. I prefer to try and get something worth watching now out of a team that I make such an emotional investment in. You may have a deal that promises you tomorrow, in that case I see your point. I don't have that deal, so I'll take a nice wildcard run and hope for a miracle. That would make me happier than watching players like Dawk and Trotter waste their few remainig years of play tring to move up in the draft. I'm silly like that.
I will never be able to bring myself to root against the Eagles winning. Having said that, come April, 4-12 would be a whole lot more helpful than 8-8.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
which means you dont care if the Eagles get swept by the Skins and Giants this year. unreal.
i was at the last game of the 1999 season vs the rams. i willingly walked up and bought tickets to that game. i wanted to see them win.
i would never root for them to lose. rooting for a higher draft position is for farging losers.
I want to see them win too. I want a parade down broad street. It isn't happening this year though, so in the grand scheme if things the rest of this season is meaningless. If there was no championship, then the games would all be played for nothing. This season the games are being played for nothing. I'm looking at the bigger picture. I want this team to be the best it can possibly be next year to make a Superbowl run. Unfortunately, sacrificing this year will help that cause. Sorta like the Spurs getting Tim Duncan. They tanked the season, got Duncan and since then had 3 parades.
If sacrificing a lost season for the greater good will put us in a similiar position to the Spurs, you'd do it in a heartbeat. It's just nothing in life is certain, but I want my team to be in the absolute best shape it can be for next season. Maybe if we finish with a terrible record we got a shot at a good pass rusher like Mario Williams in the draft.
Sure you can say you want to be entertained by going to the games this year, but once the season ends, and this team is out of the playoffs and once again without a championship, what will it matter? You've probably been to plenty of games there, but the one thing we all are missing is a parade. That is what I want.
If they could salvage the remainder and finish 9-7, i would be happy.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 15, 2005, 04:54:53 PM
I will never be able to bring myself to root against the Eagles winning. Having said that, come April, 4-12 would be a whole lot more helpful than 8-8.
I agree with everything you said here, to root for anyone else to the NFC East is abhorrent but I also understand what WestisGod means. At some point in the season if your team is that bad you need to look for the future. That being said the Eagles are good enough to be comptetive in every game and if that isn't good enough for someone then they shouldn't watch.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:58:03 PM
I want to see them win too. I want a parade down broad street. It isn't happening this year though, so in the grand scheme if things the rest of this season is meaningless. If there was no championship, then the games would all be played for nothing. This season the games are being played for nothing. I'm looking at the bigger picture. I want this team to be the best it can possibly be next year to make a Superbowl run. Unfortunately, sacrificing this year will help that cause. Sorta like the Spurs getting Tim Duncan. They tanked the season, got Duncan and since then had 3 parades.
If sacrificing a lost season for the greater good will put us in a similiar position to the Spurs, you'd do it in a heartbeat. It's just nothing in life is certain, but I want my team to be in the absolute best shape it can be for next season. Maybe if we finish with a terrible record we got a shot at a good pass rusher like Mario Williams in the draft.
Sure you can say you want to be entertained by going to the games this year, but once the season ends, and this team is out of the playoffs and once again without a championship, what will it matter? You've probably been to plenty of games there, but the one thing we all are missing is a parade. That is what I want.
and you are a no good bandwagon loser.
sports are more than winning championships. its the competition. and it's about the people that you are with when you take part in it. i want a superbowl as much as anyone. but i never want to see them lose.
Quote from: MURP on November 15, 2005, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
which means you dont care if the Eagles get swept by the Skins and Giants this year. unreal.
Look at what you've sunk to. When we miss the playoffs, and all the good players in the draft get eaten up and you say "Well at least we didn't get swept by the Giants and the taterskins!" Meanwhile one of those teams are laughing at us because they are IN the playoffs and we aren't. Is your ego that fragile? Do you need to go boast on their forums or something? Who frickin cares if they sweep us? What does it matter? We've swept them many times and what has it done for us? Nothing. In the end they get the last laugh because we didn't win a championship. I know they are rivalries and we all hate those teams and enjoy beating them, but I care about a championship first and foremost.
If we got swept by the Giants, Skins, and Cowboys, but still won a Superbowl that year, would you even care? No, because we get the last laugh. This year they will be getting a last laugh. All avoiding a sweep would do is to preserve your fragile ego.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:58:03 PM
I want to see them win too. I want a parade down broad street. It isn't happening this year though, so in the grand scheme if things the rest of this season is meaningless. If there was no championship, then the games would all be played for nothing. This season the games are being played for nothing. I'm looking at the bigger picture. I want this team to be the best it can possibly be next year to make a Superbowl run. Unfortunately, sacrificing this year will help that cause. Sorta like the Spurs getting Tim Duncan. They tanked the season, got Duncan and since then had 3 parades.
If sacrificing a lost season for the greater good will put us in a similiar position to the Spurs, you'd do it in a heartbeat. It's just nothing in life is certain, but I want my team to be in the absolute best shape it can be for next season. Maybe if we finish with a terrible record we got a shot at a good pass rusher like Mario Williams in the draft.
Sure you can say you want to be entertained by going to the games this year, but once the season ends, and this team is out of the playoffs and once again without a championship, what will it matter? You've probably been to plenty of games there, but the one thing we all are missing is a parade. That is what I want.
and you are a no good bandwagon loser.
sports are more than winning championships. its the competition. and it's about the people that you are with when you take part in it. i want a superbowl as much as anyone. but i never want to see them lose.
It's different for us because WE'VE NEVER WON A SUPERBOWL. I'm sick of just winning regular season games. I want a damn Superbowl, and IMO losing this year will help that cause. It's not about being competitive anymore. We've already done that. I'm sick of just being competitive.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: MURP on November 15, 2005, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
which means you dont care if the Eagles get swept by the Skins and Giants this year. unreal.
Look at what you've sunk to. When we miss the playoffs, and all the good players in the draft get eaten up and you say "Well at least we didn't get swept by the Giants and the taterskins!" Meanwhile one of those teams are laughing at us because they are IN the playoffs are we aren't. Is your ego that fragile? Do you need to go boast on their forums or something? Who frickin cares if they sweep us? What does it matter? We've swept them many times and what has it done for us? Nothing. In the end they get the last laugh because we didn't win a championship. I know they are rivalries and we all hate those teams and enjoy beating them, but I care about a championship first and foremost.
If we got swept by the Giants, Skins, and Cowboys, but still won a Superbowl that year, would you even care? No, because we get the last laugh. This year they will be getting a last laugh. All avoiding a sweep would do is to preserve your fragile ego.
um...it really has nothing to do with my ego.
i dont go around flexing interent muscles. and other teams laugh at the eagles? who cares?
i am a fan of the eagles. thats it. i dont give a shtein about message boards, and i certianly don't waste my time going to other teams message boards. on sunday, they play the giants. i want them to beat the giants. then comes next week.
oh...and don't saw WE...because there isnt a member of that team who wants to lose. loser.
In the immortal words of Herm Edwards, "You play to win the [farging] game"
...and in the immortal words of Jim Mora, "PLAYOFFS?!?!"
I wasn't even directing that post toward you first of all. Unless you couldn't see, I did quote someone's post and respond to it, and that person wasn't you.
Secondly, you don't have to agree with me if you don't want to. If you want to finish 7-9, fine. It will spare your pride, but you'll regret it later on.
If we ended up drafting someone who turned into the next Dwight Freeney simply because the team fell apart and ended up 4-12, then next season you'd be a happy man. The title of this thread is "Seaon over" time to think about winning a Superbowl next year.
WEST, this is not the NBA. There is no Jordan or James hanging in the balance. Even if there was, it is no guarantee of a championship. It is not about bragging, it is about satisfaction. Say we get smoked, and somehow draft Matt Leinart, what the heck are we gonna do, sit him on the bench for a year or two behind McNabb, and then go back on a 4 year plan? All the while watching mediocrity. You wanna tailgate and mail in your season ticket money to watch dreck? If we draft 2 thru 5, Reid takes a lineman anyway. No way we get a hi round RB or WR. If we draft well, or draft poorly, it doesn't matter where we pick.
I get the theory, its just the reality of it should be more ditasteful to a fan with his head and heart in the game.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:10:38 PM
It's different for us because WE'VE NEVER WON A SUPERBOWL. I'm sick of just winning regular season games. I want a damn Superbowl, and IMO losing this year will help that cause. It's not about being competitive anymore. We've already done that. I'm sick of just being competitive.
then stop watching.
i cant wait for the uncompetitive superbowls of the future!
you play hard ever farging game. you play to win every farging game. you think there is any player on that roster that cares about some rookie who's not even on a team yet? those guys will come take their jobs away. why they hell would they want a better draft position?
like i said, rooting for draft postition is for farging losers who think they know it all. and don't have the balls to face the present. yeah, this season sucks so far. but i am not going to stop rooting this team on.
you can go ahead and stop rooting for them to win. they wont care. and i certianly wont care.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 05:21:12 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:10:38 PM
It's different for us because WE'VE NEVER WON A SUPERBOWL. I'm sick of just winning regular season games. I want a damn Superbowl, and IMO losing this year will help that cause. It's not about being competitive anymore. We've already done that. I'm sick of just being competitive.
then stop watching.
i cant wait for the uncompetitive superbowls of the future!
you play hard ever farging game. you play to win every farging game. you think there is any player on that roster that cares about some rookie who's not even on a team yet? those guys will come take their jobs away. why they hell would they want a better draft position?
like i said, rooting for draft postition is for farging losers who think they know it all. and don't have the balls to face the present. yeah, this season sucks so far. but i am not going to stop rooting this team on.
you can go ahead and stop rooting for them to win. they wont care. and i certianly wont care.
Ahhh... the classic "Then stop watching them" line. It's none of your business if I continue to watch them or not, but just to let you know I will continue to watch them every game. Am I going to stand up and say "DAMMIT, THE EAGLES WON THE GAME, farg!" No I'm not, but if the Eagles lose am I going to be angry? No, I'm going to say "Oh well, this was the best thing." So when I said before I'm going to be rooting against them, then I guess it was a poor choice of words on my part. Am I going to root for them to win, and stand up scream and go crazy? Yes, but will I care all that much if we lost? Nope.
As long as I'm an Eagles fan I never want to see them lose games, so I'll never physically root against them, but it will be in the back of my mind this year that it probably is for the greater good. Then when we lose another game it won't bother me all that much at all because I'll have next year to look forward to.
Cheering for a better draft pick?
Sounds major.
Count me in!
::)
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: MURP on November 15, 2005, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
which means you dont care if the Eagles get swept by the Skins and Giants this year. unreal.
Look at what you've sunk to. When we miss the playoffs, and all the good players in the draft get eaten up and you say "Well at least we didn't get swept by the Giants and the taterskins!" Meanwhile one of those teams are laughing at us because they are IN the playoffs and we aren't. Is your ego that fragile? Do you need to go boast on their forums or something? Who frickin cares if they sweep us? What does it matter? We've swept them many times and what has it done for us? Nothing. In the end they get the last laugh because we didn't win a championship. I know they are rivalries and we all hate those teams and enjoy beating them, but I care about a championship first and foremost.
If we got swept by the Giants, Skins, and Cowboys, but still won a Superbowl that year, would you even care? No, because we get the last laugh. This year they will be getting a last laugh. All avoiding a sweep would do is to preserve your fragile ego.
I didn't realize that there are only ?what 15? good players available in the draft. What round was Owens taken in? What round was Westbrook taken in? Both of them are, or were at one point, GOD in your dumbass eyes.
Yea, no shtein. According to your logic why even keep a first round pick at all? Why not just trade it away every year if you can get equally good players in later rounds?
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:57:07 PM
Yea, no shtein. According to your logic why even keep a first round pick at all? Why not just trade it away every year if you can get equally good players in later rounds?
Considering the Eagles luck with first round picks lately, that might not be such a bad idea.
:-\
Their luck in the first round has been pretty good IMO. Freddie, notwithstanding of course. Simon was a good player. Patterson is a good player. McNabb. Lito... ok, I'm not a Lito fan right now, but he's a good corner when he plays with his head on stright. Andrews and McDougle have had injuries, I know and that's unlucky, but I think their first rounders have been pretty productive for the most part.
Andrews will turn out fine, he's just not a very good lead blocker. And by will I mean hope, because I spent a lot of money on a jersey with his name on it.
You are comparing the Spurs drafing Tim Duncan to the Eagles? Hilarious.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 05:48:43 PM
As long as I'm an Eagles fan I never want to see them lose games
but you root for the Giants now. Forget that fast?
First round picks...
Donovan - Absolutely
Simon - Qualified No
Bitchell - No Way
Sheppard - Yes
McDougle - Bust
Andrews - Jury still out
Patterson - Incomplete grade
Donovan is the only guy on that list that I would absolutely take again with a first round pick.
To be fair about it, Simon was a good player before he got fat, happy and soft. Sheppard is a good player having a terrible year this year but he still made the Pro Bowl and that isn't bad. Mitchell is a complete waste of a draft pick as was McDougle and the jury is still out on Andrews & Paterson.
Andy has definitely had a checkered past when it comes to first round picks. He's been far more successful in other rounds but so have many, many other teams. In fact, a lot of teams miss big on first rounders, so complaining about the Eagles sordid history is kinda silly.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Andrews will turn out fine, he's just not a very good lead blocker. And by will I mean hope, because I spent a lot of money on a jersey with his name on it.
Should have bought a Trotter jersey when they were selling for minor duccats!
:-D
NEVER.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 07:44:14 PM
NEVER.
Come on, G_F. Do it. You know you want to. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Jeremiah-Trotter-Signed-Eagles-Reebok-Jersey_W0QQitemZ8722729944QQcategoryZ27277QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
:evil
I'd buy a Simoneau jersey before a 54.
Shockingly, none are being offered currently on ebay. (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=mark+simoneau+jersey)
:paranoid
I thought for shore there'd be a Falcons one up there.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 07:59:54 PM
I thought for shore there'd be a Falcons one up there.
I can't say I'm
sure what you mean. Could you please clarify?
No.
OK then.
Fine.
Only women try to end a discussion by saying "fine." If I go over to grouphup I'm going to find some little blurb someone (you) wrote about being a board mod and making everyone think you're a dude, aren't I?
She needs to try a lot harder if she's attempting to fool anybody into believing she's a guy.
It's pretty evident when she's got her visitor isn't it?
Damn... this thread veered off-track. One minute we're talking about Mark Simoneau and the next we're talking about menstrual cycles.
Then again...
:paranoid
WEST_IS_GOD, based on your logic you think it is better for the team that the roster is full of players who quit at the first sign of adversity. I, on the other hand, think it would be better if the roster was full of players who played hard until the end of the season and had a bit of personal and professional pride than losers who quit and play for a higher draft pick. Now, take your sorry arse off the bandwagon and go root for the Vagiants.
Lets see. The Last time the Eagles went to the SB, their previous draft pick was Shawn Andrews at #16 and he didnt play all year. The Year before that was McDougle at #15 who was hurt most of the time also. Those draft picks had about zero effect on the Eagles making it to the SB. All the high draft picks for the 23 or so years before that didnt get them to the SB. This whole point about a single high draft pick being the saving grace of the Eagles is just preposterous.
Preposterous!
YES!!
Mathias Kiwanuka
Mario Williams
Marcus McNeil
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Rod Wright
Haloti Ngata (probably a #2)
My wish list so far.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2005, 09:37:28 AM
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Quite a friggin' name. Hopefully he plays a position that can crack some skulls.
Quote from: Eaglez on November 16, 2005, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2005, 09:37:28 AM
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Quite a friggin' name. Hopefully he plays a position that can crack some skulls.
Offensive Tackle from UVA. :yay
He's a LT.
If they let Runyan walk or when Rosenhaus starts in on Banner about paying Tra more he could come in handy.
Andrews must stay at RG.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 16, 2005, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: Eaglez on November 16, 2005, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 16, 2005, 09:37:28 AM
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Quite a friggin' name. Hopefully he plays a position that can crack some skulls.
Offensive Tackle from UVA.
He's a top four pick. No chance we get him.
If we go 4-12 there is. :paranoid
Punter.
Holder - seems to be a premium on this team.
Quote from: Reidme on November 15, 2005, 04:50:15 PM
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 04:33:57 PMThe Giants beating us on sunday is the best thing for this team. It may take a while for you to see things my way, but if we miss the playoffs 4-12 is no worse than 7-9. If you're out, you're out.
You're wrong. I myself have a few tickets left for this year, and I wanna see a good game and a good effort ... by the whole team. I didn't see that last night, I saw some guys laying it all out and a few going braindead. That is not satisfying. This is my team, and I wanna see them win. Hypothetically, if they tanked or fell apart, and grab a top 5 pick, and draft a Ryan Leaf, how does that help me as a paying fan? Worse yet, they draft the next Joe Montana, and I get run over buy a bus in the offseason.
This is about today. Its about entertainment and distraction in an all too short lifetime. It is about loyalty. It is about effort. It is about winning. It is about unity and community. If you don't get it, you just don't get it. But if you really want them to lose so bad that you would root against them, just to put a high round draft pick in the hands of the current owner/caretaker, go right ahead. I prefer to try and get something worth watching now out of a team that I make such an emotional investment in. You may have a deal that promises you tomorrow, in that case I see your point. I don't have that deal, so I'll take a nice wildcard run and hope for a miracle. That would make me happier than watching players like Dawk and Trotter waste their few remainig years of play tring to move up in the draft. I'm silly like that.
Besides, high-round draft picks are no more likely to be talented and useful to a team than later draft picks. It has been shown again and again. They do however, always use more cap.
After my anger of the loss wore off I decided I'm not giving up. Eagles will still win the SB.
Your dealer must love you man.
I'd rather wait to draft some O-linemen later on in the draft. I don't think our O-line is in that bad of shape and they are all pretty much returning next year. I think they showed they could move a decent front 7 in the run game last week, they just need to get in the appropriate rhythm out there. Are there any big play DE's or pass rushing OLB's in this draft? I haven't been keeping up with collegiate talent.
I'd probably go with an OLB just because I'm willing to give McDougle another chance. It was really unfortunate what happened to him this offseason. It was simply shtein luck.