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Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, November 15, 2005, 12:19:25 AM

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Wingspan

Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.

On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.

yeah, because of a bad blitz call by JJ, i'm willing to bet that they would've gone back to playing the way they played all game.

oh so now you can see into tthe future
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Syracuse

I am so farging tired of this team ripping my heart out of my chest and pissing on it.
McNabb has proven one thing to me: He could'nt win a game in college that mattered, and he can't win a game now when it matters. farging bum.
I am sick to my stomach over this. I am tired of this shtein.
Lito makes a great play, and gets burned big time. He's a bum, too. farging bums, all of 'em.
Way to go iceholes.
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SunMo

actually, it's pretty obvious that McNabb misread the play.  so many of the routes in the WCO are read-based routes.  the safety jumped up into the play, thus the read was for Reggie Brown to go deep.  McNabb didn't see Williams and threw the anticipated hitch route.
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SunMo

Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on November 15, 2005, 09:33:55 AM
I have to say that I, too am filled with disappointment. After supporting McNabb and Reid to the hilt, I just thought it was stupid to not run the ball when we had what, 172 yards of rushing offense, and we could have made the Cowboys use all of their timeouts. Even if we would have wound up punting, the Cowboys would have had to go 80, maybe 85 yards with NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.

On their previous scoring drive, the Cowboys drove 70 yards in under a minute.

yeah, because of a bad blitz call by JJ, i'm willing to bet that they would've gone back to playing the way they played all game.

oh so now you can see into tthe future

no, i said i was willing to bet that they would do that.  do you understand what that means?  it means that I belive, in my opinion, that's what would've happened.  i made no guarentees or concrete statments. 

i based my opinon on how they played for 55 minutes, not based on one score given up on a bad defensive call.
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Larry

I don't believe the miscommunication is that much an issue.

Even if Brown and McNabb were on the same wavelength, the pass would've still been intercepted.   McNabb appeared to be throwing an out...the ball never made it to the sidelines.

When passing the football, the QB's #1 priority is to look out for the safety.
McNabb didn't and we lost.
More Mahe please.

Wingspan

Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 15, 2005, 09:51:46 AM
actually, it's pretty obvious that McNabb misread the play.  so many of the routes in the WCO are read-based routes.  the safety jumped up into the play, thus the read was for Reggie Brown to go deep.  McNabb didn't see Williams and threw the anticipated hitch route.

not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.
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henchmanUK

Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 15, 2005, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 15, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
If McNabb didn't make a zesty decision by throwing right to Roy Williams and if Lito actually could cover anyone 1-on-1 this year, then you'd praise the coaches for being brilliant.

I think Reid, especially, called a very good game.  Johnson got us burned by blitzing at the wrong time, but he also got the big play on a blitz too.

The bottom line is that if McNabb doesn't throw that ridiculously ill-advised pass, we're complaining after a win instead of searching for answers after a loss.  That play was AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL.

the play was awful...but could it have been the WR that misread the play as well?

Part of my point. If there's a risk where either the QB or WR could misread the play, in that situation it was a disastrous call.

well thats not my point at all.

it wasnt a disasterous call. it was disasterous execution.

It was disastrous both.
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Diomedes

Quote from: Larry on November 15, 2005, 09:53:58 AM
I don't believe the miscommunication is that much an issue.
Even if Brown and McNabb were on the same wavelength, the pass would've still been intercepted.

I disagree.  If they "were on the same wavelength," McNabb would have lobbed the ball down-field, over Williams' reach, into one on one coverage.
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mussa

the eagles had the game in the bag, but they played like it was already over in the 3rd. they had way too many 3 and outs and look what happened.  bad play calling imo and the urgency to keep the cowboys out of it was none.  run up the fargin score.  lito shepard is bait.  of all the times in the game, u put dawkins in the box and leave lito one on one with glenn.  great call JJ!  McNabb farged up again.  I don't want to ear excuses about oh it was the receiver...McNabb farged up and lost the Skins game for us and now this week with the cowpukes...and we kicked the shtein out of the cowboys.  as far as i am concerned this season is over.  we have a lame kicker in Akers and the special teams, we have no receivers, we have sketchy play calling on both sides of the ball, and we have a unpredictable QB with a field vision of none for a QB.  Im so pissed off at the team.  lack of consistency...i have no faith in them after last night.  i am just disgusted :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke
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PoopyfaceMcGee

I would like to state for the record that I won't be able to stop myself from watching each and every last game this team plays this season and cheering as mightily as always.  That's why the fact that the season's toast really hurts.

I hate to love 'em, and I love to hate 'em.  Fargin' Eagles.

Rome

Shades of Aeneas Williams, Ronde Barber, et al.

I, for one, am tired of defending McNabb's idiotic play when the chips are down.  What's even more nauseating is defending him in situations where a stupid play on his part steals defeat for the Eagles from the jaws of victory.


Larry

Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:49:54 AM
someone grossly misread the play, either the WR or the QB, and the truth is as fans, we will never know who actually misread the play so badly, hell it could have been both. but we will never know, despite all the armchair caoches we seem to have.

From Spew:

Lamar Gordon gained 3 yards on first down. Then the Eagles called a passing play and Brown, seeing press coverage by the Dallas defense, did what he was supposed to do and ran a go route.

However, for some reason, McNabb wasn't on the same page as Brown. McNabb threw a pass designed for a hitch route -- with a 6-yard depth -- and the only player in the vicinity of the throw was Dallas safety Roy Williams, who made the catch and raced down the left sideline for a touchdown as Lincoln Financial Field fell silent.
More Mahe please.

phillywin2k5

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 15, 2005, 10:12:52 AM
Shades of Aeneas Williams, Ronde Barber, et al.

I, for one, am tired of defending McNabb's idiotic play when the chips are down.  What's even more nauseating is defending him in situations where a stupid play on his part steals defeat for the Eagles from the jaws of victory.


still have to blame the coaches for some of this. The prevent D failed for the 1st TD, then Reid calls a low percentage pass to a rookie who dropped 2 catchable balls earlier in the game.  Oh and Lito BLOWS, and Michael Lewis should tackle instead of always trying to strip the ball. The D did play one heck of a 57 minute game though.
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SunMo

Quote from: Wingspan on November 15, 2005, 09:55:45 AM
not really. it is not obvious. if brown runs a hitch, or a comeback, he would have been settled right in front of both of those defenders...so again...someone misread the play. but we will never know who it actually was.

stop it, you're wrong.  it is obvious what happened, maybe not for you, but for people who understand what's going on.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Rome

Laying it off on the coaches shoulders is a cop out.

The players are responsible for what happens between the sidelines, not the coaches.