I heard on WIP that Michael Irvin did an interview with TO, and asked TO that if the Eagles had Favre instead of McNabb, would the Eagles be 7-0. TO supposedly agreed to that, by saying something like "That's pretty accurate."
I don't know if I necessarily agree with it. In fact I don't at all, but now's not the time for TO to bring down the QB if this story is true. Either way, the people that want him gone are still idiots and this comment doesn't change that.
Just wanted to let you TO-haters know that before you post(yet again) to get rid of this guy.
He also supposedly called the Eagles classless. Atta boy TO!! Tell those Eagles how it is. Andy thinks he has control of you and there is nothing he can do about it. His little world is crumbling down! This is what you get Andy for being cheap!
Are you just being gay and posting this BS to start shtein?
It was on Sportcenter. I caught the tail end of it, but heard summaries on WIP. If you don't believe me turn on the radio or Sportscenter. It'll be back on eventually.
I'm glad TO ripped the team though. I'm tired of the way they do business. I posted my rant in the Westbrook thread.
They led off SC with it. He did praise McNabb for leading the comeback vs Denver though...
The funny thing is, I think half the team agrees with TO now. It's just that TO is the only one with the balls to say it. Good for TO. I'm tired of players backing down to the Eagles. TO doesn't back down.
He said the Eagles were "classless" for not celebrating his 100th TD reception.... ::)
They were classless for not celebrating it. He's not asking to throw a party, but at least do something to acknowledge him.
Man I love the Eagles to death, but this year they have really got under my skin, and I'm not going to stand for it. I'm glad TO is saying this stuff. This is the most animosity I've felt toward this team in more than 5 years. I've disagreed with just about everyhting they've done this offseason/season and just about every way they've handled everything.
Wow...why the farg would he open his mouth now. What a dumb farg. Just cut him and start preparing for the draft next year. After tonight...i'm just totally mind boggled. Get rid of him. RJS is right...he's a cancer and he's gonna tear the team apart. Farg TO.
...and end up like the Vikings. History is there to teach you lessons. You don't get rid of stars just because they are outspoken and are out of control sometimes. You think Moss was a poison? How about those Vikings now. This Eagles team would be so awful on offense without TO, it's not even worth thinking about.
If you are ready to give up on the season, then I'm going to have to question your fanship, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I know deep down you don't want them to tank the season, and you are just speaking out of anger. It happens to the best of us.
It also doesn't help that the likes of Trotter, Westbrook also are on TO's side. They don't go public with it, but you can bet that they do inside the locker room.
Since we're in another "bash TO" mode, I guess I'll throw in some comments from "Mr. NC" today.....TO will not be back, he's "a d**k....a cancer.....one of the worst people I've ever met"... :paranoid
:-D
He said he's one of the worst people he ever met? That's f'n hilarious. I'm guessing he took a shot at him and his bald head. As for him not being back, like I said before, I don't care if he's back or not as long as they get a legit 1,000 yard receiver. If they don't we can start thinking about who we'll take with the #5 pick in the draft.
bla bla ive heard it all before. let it go. who cares. im sick of this.
It never even occurred to me that they should celebrate his 100th td. At first I thought what a self centered ahole. Than I remembered 1979. Many of you may not recall in 1979 when the Eagles stopped the game against Cleveland at The Vet when Harold Carmichael broke the consecutive games with a catch record held by Danny Abramowitz. It was a huge production where they gave him a huge trophy and a bunch of accolades. If I recall they stopped the game for almost ten minutes. I am sure 61 & 64 remember this game.
Something to think about.
:-o
He said, and i quote, "I am not going to risk my future, my career for the Eagles." Wow...with the shtein he spewed tonight, i wouldn't be surprised if AR would suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. And i would not be the slightest bit pissed off about it.
Why now? Why in the middle of the season? Just play out the year and get it over with and then leave. What a fleshpop.
I wonder if the reason he all of a sudden decided to practice was because maybe AR already disclosed to the team that McNabb was going to sit out the week. And now TO wants to see how he can play with Detmer or Mike Mac throwing him the ball while at the same time throwing it in McNabb's face that he's willing to play injured for someone else but not him . It's possible.
Hey Waco...he essentially said the same thing a few weeks ago on his radio show. They asked him then if he would've played in the SB knowing then what he knows now and he said no.
Watching and listening to people complain about this guy now is more entertaining than listening to TO. Everytime he opens his mouth at least one person goes into the "OMG! Get rid of him now! He's a cancer!" rant.
Guess what? We've got 9 games left. This season ain't over. And I will not root for a quitter and if the Eagles packed it in then they'd be quitters in my eyes.
Guess what, guys?
TO IS A LOUDMOUTH MORON!!
There. Keep telling yourself that for the next time he says something stupid and you know its going to happen because he says stupid shtein all the time. If you didn't know that before he signed here then you know now.
Why even listen to what he says anymore? Who cares?
He's playing this Sunday. Thats all I care about.
Also...
Irvin orginally said that the Eagles would be 7-0 with Favre on Monday's SC and MNC. Then he was on Patrick's radio show and Patrick asked him again and he said that the Eagles would be 7-0 and on fire with Favre.
So the ESPN interviewer was piggybacking Irvins comments. Irvin didn't interview him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 03:31:43 AM
Hey Waco...he essentially said the same thing a few weeks ago on his radio show. They asked him then if he would've played in the SB knowing then what he knows now and he said no.
Watching and listening to people complain about this guy now is more entertaining than listening to TO. Everytime he opens his mouth at least one person goes into the "OMG! Get rid of him now! He's a cancer!" rant.
Guess what? We've got 9 games left. This season ain't over. And I will not root for a quitter and if the Eagles packed it in then they'd be quitters in my eyes.
Guess what, guys?
TO IS A LOUDMOUTH MORON!!
There. Keep telling yourself that for the next time he says something stupid and you know its going to happen because he says stupid shtein all the time. If you didn't know that before he signed here then you know now.
Why even listen to what he says anymore? Who cares?
He's playing this Sunday. Thats all I care about.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Every time he opens his mouth, the sensitive nancy boys come out and say "OH MY GOD, JUST CUT HIM I'M TIRED OF HIM!". It's pathetic how weak-minded people are, and some of the people who talk like that are farging adults. If you can't deal with a bunch of idiot comments from TO, and it truly bothers you THAT much, then there is something seriously wrong with you. Those people need some emotion control sessions or something. Just deal with it, or realize that football isn't for you and stop watching and following it.
Weak-minded? You have no clue. I'm just tired of him trying to create controversy. He's a moron. He's a hell of a player on the field but he sucks off the field.
If he would just shtein his farging mouth and play, then fine. However, he continues to spew this shtein and he hurts the team chemistry. It helps them to lose games. So now go ahead and tell me again that i'm weak-minded. Farg that shtein!
Quote from: Don Ho on November 04, 2005, 02:20:05 AM
It never even occurred to me that they should celebrate his 100th td. At first I thought what a self centered ahole. Than I remembered 1979. Many of you may not recall in 1979 when the Eagles stopped the game against Cleveland at The Vet when Harold Carmichael broke the consecutive games with a catch record held by Danny Abramowitz. It was a huge production where they gave him a huge trophy and a bunch of accolades. If I recall they stopped the game for almost ten minutes. I am sure 61 & 64 remember this game.
Something to think about.
Something else to think about--I can't believe you would compare Carmichael, one of the classiest players the Eagles ever had to Owens. That Owens is pouting because he didn't get attention for his 100th receiving TD is pathetic.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 12:39:50 AM
...and end up like the Vikings. History is there to teach you lessons. You don't get rid of stars just because they are outspoken and are out of control sometimes. You think Moss was a poison? How about those Vikings now. This Eagles team would be so awful on offense without TO, it's not even worth thinking about.
If you are ready to give up on the season, then I'm going to have to question your fanship, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I know deep down you don't want them to tank the season, and you are just speaking out of anger. It happens to the best of us.
It also doesn't help that the likes of Trotter, Westbrook also are on TO's side. They don't go public with it, but you can bet that they do inside the locker room.
Yeah, our offense would suck without Owens--that's why they went 57-33 BEFORE he became an Eagle and went to three straight NFCCGs--and went to another one when he was injured. And before you declare me an apologist, the facts are there to see.
As far as Trotter defending him, what else do you think Trotter would do? He had his own issues with the FO.
As far as Westbrook goes, if yesterday's reports are accurate from Eskin, and Westbrook turned down the "more lucerative offer" that they made to him, he can leave. You saw how many offers he got when he was an RFA--and don't say that no one wanted to give up a 1st rounder and then sign Westbrook to a big deal--that happens every year when teams draft unproven players. The Bucs and Cards could have offered the Eagles 2nd and 3rd round draft picks, because THEY EACH had multiple third round picks--the Bucs in the McCardell trade and the Cards when they traded the Duane Starks to NE.
As far as comparing this situation to the Vikings, that's going way overboard--how MANY MORE GAMES has Reid won than Tice? What about the Vikings coaching staff as a whole, compared to the Eagles? What about the front offices? The Eagles didn't throw away money on a 5-8 CB; then sign an over the hill S in Sharper.
This is getting ridiculous--the Birds have 9 games to go, but it seems the "Eagles management hate patrol" is out in full force.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2213282
PHILADELPHIA -- Terrell Owens thinks the Eagles could be undefeated at this point in the season -- if they had Brett Favre at quarterback.
In an exclusive interview with ESPN.com contributor Graham Bensinger, the outspoken wide receiver also said injuries to Donovan McNabb have slowed the Eagles (4-3) this season.
"If Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better," Owens said Thursday night.
ESPN analyst Michael Irvin recently said the Eagles would be undefeated if Favre was the starting quarterback.
Asked for his thoughts on Irvin's comment, Owens said: "That's a good assessment, I would agree with that, just with what [Favre] brings to the table.
"A number of commentators will say he's a warrior, he's played with injuries. I feel like him being knowledgable about the quarterback position, I feel like we'd probably be in a better situation."
Owens returned to practice Thursday after suffering a sprained ankle in last Sunday's loss to Denver. He's listed as questionable for Philadelphia's game, but told ESPN.com, "I would say I'm closer to playing than not."
McNabb has been bothered by injuries all season. He's been hampered by a sports hernia since Week 1, and is also suffereing from a bruised chest and shin. McNabb missed his second straight practice Thursday with a rib injury and was downgraded to questionable.
Owens also hard harsh things to say about the Eagles for not publically recognizing his 100th career touchdown catch Oct. 23 at home against the Chargers.
"That right there just shows you the type of class and integrity that they claim not to be," said Owens, who became the sixth receiver in NFL history to reach the milestone. "They claim to be first class and the best organization. It's an embarrassment. It just shows a lack of class they have. My publicist talked to the head PR guy and they made an excuse they didn't recognize that was coming up. But that was a blatant lie. Had it been somebody else they probably would have popped fireworks around the stadium."
Owens, who is unhappy with his contract, said he wants to remain in Philadelphia but doesn't think that will happen.
"I just want to be happy," he said. "If it's here then I would love to be here, if not you got to move on. ... If there's a situation where they have a change of heart and come to their senses and pay me what I'm worth, then I'd be more than happy to be here.
"At this time I'm being honest with myself just trying to look toward the future and I just don't see myself really being here. It's not because I don't want to be here but I just don't foresee them doing the necessary things to keep me here."
Bensinger's full interview with Owens will be available next week on ESPN.com.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 04, 2005, 02:20:05 AM
It never even occurred to me that they should celebrate his 100th td. At first I thought what a self centered ahole. Than I remembered 1979. Many of you may not recall in 1979 when the Eagles stopped the game against Cleveland at The Vet when Harold Carmichael broke the consecutive games with a catch record held by Danny Abramowitz. It was a huge production where they gave him a huge trophy and a bunch of accolades. If I recall they stopped the game for almost ten minutes. I am sure 61 & 64 remember this game.
Something to think about.
carmicheal=life long eagle up to that point, broke his record as an eagle all the way.
terrell owens=mercenary that everyone will forget in 5 years.
carmicheal > terrell owens
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Paging rjs...
Let me guess...
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i'll be the first to say it, burn him, light him on fire and throw more gas on him when the flames start to die down.
He's clearly being detrimental to the team at this point.
Saying that the Eagles would be 7-0 with Favre in there is ridiculous beyond belief but the complaining about the 100th touchdown is worse.
He's an attentionwhoring imbecile who is tearing the team apart limb from limb and if Andy had any sense, he'd suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. Personally, I wish someone would Stingley his ass once and for all.
:)
i would not be opposed to AR growing a set and sending TO home for the rest of the season. let him sit there and fantasize about being signed to huge numbers next year after bashing two of his QB's in the media. good luck finding another QB who will want to work with ya TO.
Exactly, T.
If you have a cancer growing in your body, you excise it, you don't let it grow to the point where it becomes lethal.
He's gotta go, period.
farve can get pressure on the qb, stop the run, and play pass coverage? no wonder Madden loves him so much.
Yep! That's it! Good ol' boy Brett would have made all the difference in the Dallas & Denver games. Pathetic! Isn't there anyone on this board that has the right connections to get some guy in the locker room that could give TO syringe full of about 100cc of lockjaw.
i'll give romey $100 to take a baseball bat to his knee, will that work for you 3x?
No, not really. I've been rooting for the Eagles to long for that. At this point I'm willing to sell my soul to the devil. I still want him on the field, I just don't want to have to listen to his mouth. I'd gladly pay the hundred for the lockjaw shot.
TO should be keyshawned....greggie, reggie, & billy all the way!
why is this guy on the team??...as much as i depsise TO i have no sympathy for andy at all...he shtein his bed now hes gotta sleep in it....dook should have been kicked off the team in the summer...its embarrassing to the organization at this point...when you give up everything you stand for as a person team and organization this is what happens
yup...andy sold his soul for what he thought would get the team over the hump to a super bowl win. it didn't work.
i'd honestly suffer through lewis/brown/mcmullen/mccants for the rest of this season to get TO off the team.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 03, 2005, 11:56:33 PM
He also supposedly called the Eagles classless. Atta boy TO!! Tell those Eagles how it is. Andy thinks he has control of you and there is nothing he can do about it. His little world is crumbling down! This is what you get Andy for being cheap!
Do me a favor... When T.O. is playing for someone else next year, can you please start rooting for that team?
Thanks in advance.
Normally I would be one to say 'I told you so and welcome to the party' but I'm exhausted from all of this. I wish he would just go away. Biggest mistake this regime ever made.
stop with the "cheap" comment. it's just so stupid to mention cheap when talking about billion dollar business.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 03, 2005, 11:56:33 PM
He also supposedly called the Eagles classless. Atta boy TO!! Tell those Eagles how it is. Andy thinks he has control of you and there is nothing he can do about it. His little world is crumbling down! This is what you get Andy for being cheap!
Do me a favor... When T.O. is playing for someone else next year, can you please start rooting for that team?
Thanks in advance.
LOL! As if he's been cheering for the Eagles
this season.
:-D
make no mistake about it, TO is a great athlete, but i truly can't wait until he's wearing some else's colors, but for god sake get him out of eagles green right now!
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 08:26:55 AM
Normally I would be one to say 'I told you so and welcome to the party' but I'm exhausted from all of this. I wish he would just go away. Biggest mistake this regime ever made.
I don't know about that. Switching from Kelly Green to Midnight Green gives the T.O. move a run for its money.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 04:03:15 AM
Weak-minded? You have no clue. I'm just tired of him trying to create controversy. He's a moron. He's a hell of a player on the field but he sucks off the field.
If he would just shtein his farging mouth and play, then fine. However, he continues to spew this shtein and he hurts the team chemistry. It helps them to lose games. So now go ahead and tell me again that i'm weak-minded. Farg that shtein!
Guess what?
TO isn't the only one hurting the team chemsitry. If TO had his lips glued shut then Brian Westbrook would still be piping up about not getting paid and not getting touches. And David Akers, had he not gotten hurt, would still be saying "pay me".
And Trotter says on his show that the Eagles FO needs to pay people.
So if you got your wish and TO shut up, then there are other people right behind him in line to bitch.
And the dude is playing. I couldn't care less what the farging moron says when he's at his house. Show up. Play hard. That's all I care about.
And TO is playing and playing well.
If I didn't feel a sense of deja vu washing over me I'd recount the numerous other sports franchises who've had to deal with big mouth idiots. But I've already done that.
TO = loud mouth who plays all out
Would you prefer a loudmouth who loafs?
do you think TO is playing as hard as he did last season?
Impossible to tell.
He's making plays.
TO> Greg, Billy, Reggie & Darnerian.
If he wasn't playing hard would he have gone over the middle against SF & OAK and gotten smoked like he did?
Jay, come on.
He's a cancer who has clearly worn out his welcome in Philly. I can understand him running his mouth off in the off-season when he was looking for more dough. But he's throwing his quarterback and teammates under the bus during the season now.
Production or not, he's destroying what little chemistry the team has left because of his own selfish interests.
You simply cannot have that under any circumstances. Frankly, I'm surprised someone on his team hasn't knocked him the farg out by now.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 04, 2005, 08:37:36 AM
Frankly, I'm surprised someone on his team hasn't knocked him the farg out by now.
re-sign hugh.
Every team needs a bad ass to keep the sheep in line and to my knowledge, the Eagles don't have one.
Too bad. He could use a punch in the mouth.
I'm going to put my Eagles gear in the closet until they get rid of TO.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 04, 2005, 08:37:36 AM
Jay, come on.
He's a cancer who has clearly worn out his welcome in Philly. I can understand him running his mouth off in the off-season when he was looking for more dough. But he's throwing his quarterback and teammates under the bus during the season now.
Production or not, he's destroying what little chemistry the team has left because of his own selfish interests.
You simply cannot have that under any circumstances. Frankly, I'm surprised someone on his team hasn't knocked him the farg out by now.
He's a distraction, yes. But what are you going to do? Allow me to paint two scenarios for you;
1. Things stay as is and Owens continues to pop off now and then but still goes out and helps the team win ballgames.
2. They suspend him as many of you want. Then the Eagles will be in for a fight with the NFLPA. And then the team will be bombarded with even more questions. More than they are now. And then they have this little problem of replacing him in the line-up.
I don't care...there are 9 games left and this team is not dead. You send TO home you are sending the season right down the shteinter.
Damn, I hate to sound like a TO apologist but so what if the guy says what he said? Words are words. Do any of the other players give two shteins about if TO thinks the Eagles brass are a bunch of classless dopes? No.
And he clearly said that they'd be better if Donny Mac was healthy and said that their performance lives and dies with #5.
What is wrong with that?
I don't care about the Favre comment. He pulled the same shtein in SF. That is why I fail to see why everyone continues to get all up in arms about this guy. Is this seriously news?
I won't go that far.
I think my T.O. jersey has seen the light of day for the last time, though. Well, until I burn the farging thing after he's cut, anyway.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 08:45:02 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 04, 2005, 08:37:36 AM
Jay, come on.
He's a cancer who has clearly worn out his welcome in Philly. I can understand him running his mouth off in the off-season when he was looking for more dough. But he's throwing his quarterback and teammates under the bus during the season now.
Production or not, he's destroying what little chemistry the team has left because of his own selfish interests.
You simply cannot have that under any circumstances. Frankly, I'm surprised someone on his team hasn't knocked him the farg out by now.
He's a distraction, yes. But what are you going to do? Allow me to paint two scenarios for you;
1. Things stay as is and Owens continues to pop off now and then but still goes out and helps the team win ballgames.
2. They suspend him as many of you want. Then the Eagles will be in for a fight with the NFLPA. And then the team will be bombarded with even more questions. More than they are now. And then they have this little problem of replacing him in the line-up.
I don't care...there are 9 games left and this team is not dead. You send TO home you are sending the season right down the shteinter.
Damn, I hate to sound like a TO apologist but so what if the guy says what he said? Words are words. Do any of the other players give two shteins about if TO thinks the Eagles brass are a bunch of classless dopes? No.
And he clearly said that they'd be better if Donny Mac was healthy and said that their performance lives and dies with #5.
What is wrong with that?
I don't care about the Favre comment. He pulled the same shtein in SF. That is why I fail to see why everyone continues to get all up in arms about this guy. Is this seriously news?
Alright, don't suspend him. Let him continue to spew his bullshtein all season until the team gets torn to shreds.
If I were Andy, his ass would be sitting on the bench for the rest of the season. I'd run the ball 50 goddamn times against the Skins and make T.O. watch every second of it from the sidelines.
Then I'd line up the next week and do the same thing.
Win or lose, this season's toast anyway. You don't really expect them to win the Super Bowl at this point, do you? You might as well make a point of showing that the team comes first and that no player is bigger than the whole.
How on Earth can anyone see his presense on this team as a positive? I am dead serious when I say that this team has a better chance to win each weekend without him than it does with him.
QuoteAlright, don't suspend him. Let him continue to spew his bullshtein all season until the team gets torn to shreds.
If I were Andy, his ass would be sitting on the bench for the rest of the season. I'd run the ball 50 goddamn times against the Skins and make T.O. watch every second of it from the sidelines.
Then I'd line up the next week and do the same thing.
Win or lose, this season's toast anyway. You don't really expect them to win the Super Bowl at this point, do you? You might as well make a point of showing that the team comes first and that no player is bigger than the whole.
As opposed to suspending him and having him go on ESPN and spew even more vile BS? Because you know good gosh darn well it'll happen. And even though he isn't in the locker room it'll have a profound effect on this team.
"Donovan, what do you think of TO saying_________"
"Andy, why did you send TO home?"
"Greg, Reggie, Billy can you guys make up for the loss of TO?"
Dawkins and Trotter, the two big time emotional leaders on this team like TO. They have his back. Trotter and Dawk both say TO helps this team.
Send him home and watch the team crumble.
And I am not giving up on this team. I forget, were all Super Bowl winners dominant from start to finish in every year? Negative, bro.
9 games left.
I never thought I'd see the day when it would get to this point. A bad stretch of games and people have written 'em off. I'm shocked.
The Eagles aren't finished because of T.O.'s antics. They're finished because their running game is non-existent, their quarterback is playing at about 50% and their defense is in tatters.
And yeah, I'd sit his farging punk ass because sometimes, addition through subtraction is a good thing.
How anyone can be apologizing for his inexcusable behavior is what's shocking to me.
PS: I haven't written them off. I'm still going to watch every second of every game. I'm still going to hope that they'll pull a rabbit out of a hat and make the playoffs. I'm still hoping that they'll win the Super Bowl but the realist (or cynic - feel free to use whichever term you prefer) won't allow me to truly believe that. They're done, dude. Done.
How on Earth can anyone see his presense on this team as a positive? I am dead serious when I say that this team has a better chance to win each weekend without him than it does with him.
i agree....but beyond that its the principal of it...what kind of precedence does this set...that if youre a star player you can blast your qb coach and organization as much as you want and get away with it cause youre the best wr on the team...when you do stuff like that it eats away at team morale and creates a counter productive atmosphere in the locker room...how many players are saying to themselves well if TO can do whatever he wants then im not going to give 100%...
there are things we dont see as well that i ive been saying all along will come out at years end...things like TO in practice not listening to coaches not giving 100% sleeping or coming late to meetings...things of that nature will all come out after the season...and again you will hear how much this fiasco has hurt the team...
for god sakes you have a player on the team that is continously shteinting all over his coaches and qb and yet he gets to stay????...i dont see how you can go along with that simply because hes the best wr on the team...in 25 years there will be no TO or andy or donovan but there will be a philadelphia eagles and nothing is above the philadelphia eagles...not the owner not the coach and certainly not some bitch ass wr....
And none of those problems can be fixed in the final 9 games? Especially in an extremely flawed NFC?
I'm not apologizing for him. I do not like the Favre comment or the petty bitching about the 100th TD. But the 100th TD shtein has zero effect on the team. And the Favre comment is consistent with TO's MO. He did it in SF and he'll continue to do it wherever he is next year.
I do not thin they are done at all.
TO at WR is a good thing for this team.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 09:01:59 AM
...[Being reasonable, making tons of sense]...
I couldn't have put it better myself. Disagreeing with what you said is nothing but wishful thinking.
OK, the T.O. apologists are starting to remind me of Karl Rove supporters.
They are certainly not going to morph into a Super Bowl team with McNabb injured, T.O. talking trash, and Westbrook's vagina all sore because the Eagles fail to reach his continually-increasing contract demands. Those are easily the 3 best players on the offense.
Oh, and in other news... the defense has developed a habit of giving up 30+/game.
Oh, and by the way... the special teams is now using a castoff punter, doesn't have a kick returner, and is hoping to get a Pro Bowl kicker back that was anything but stellar this year even before the injury.
Nevermind that the coach is apparently trying to kill the injured franchise QB by first not making him take care of his long-term health by getting surgery, then by setting team records for pass attempts, instead of adapting by mixing in Westbrook and Gordon more often in the running game.
Look, I do not want Andy Reid fired. I do not think the team is more likely to win without Terrell Owens. I do want Brian Westbrook to get paid and continue making plays for the Eagles. All that said, it's Andy's job to get this ship righted, and shutting Owens up one way or another would be a good start. Andy has absolutely lost control of this team, and that is not something that happens during a Super Bowl winning season.
I love this team, and I want them to win the Super Bowl more than almost anything else I've wanted in my whole life... and that's why I can say with confidence that this is absolutely not going to be the season that happens.
Like Tony Bruno is saying...
TO is a great football player. he is delusional, all that matters to him is self importance. He's not a criminal, he's just a self absorbed guy who has no grasp on reality.
He says to sit back and stop spewing the vitriol Philadelphia and realize that TO is a great football player.
He's delusional and when he goes out and plays, he plays. What matters between games does not matter.
Reid is dooming this team by not running the ball. The defense need sto get fixed and McNabb needs to get healthy. Those are more pressing concerns than TO's chirping.
What happens between games does not matter.
i can only assume that tony bruno has never played organized sports...or been in the military or any setting where a pecking order is needed for success
morganti just brought up a funny and very true point...hes like for god sakes he called his last quarterback gay in public...where do you go from there???
My post was correct. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.
I don't care what the Eagles do with TO, as long as they don't cut him.
Bench him, suspend him, dock his pay, make him team farging ambassador...I don't care. Just don't give him what he obviously wants.
This team needs to draw the line and make an example of this prick. Enough is enough.
Thats my whole point...TO's been a lightning rod for years.
It simply amazes me at the reaction of some when he says dumb shtein. The guys been saying stupid and inflammatory comments since April.
8 months, guys.
And the TC blowup was 100 times worse than this.
Merrill Reese on Bruno now...
The Eagles have to let the other stuff go in one ear and out the other. He is the best receiver in football.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 09:15:34 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 09:01:59 AM
...[Being reasonable, making tons of sense]...
I couldn't have put it better myself. Disagreeing with what you said is nothing but wishful thinking.
Yep.
I want his head on a stick.
Make an example of him?
What will that do? Other than hurt the on field performance?
Hey..let's suspend him for saying stupid shtein. That's the ticket!
Did Keyshawn get another job? Yep.
Making an example of guys in the NFL serves no purpose. Why? Because when the season is over and they hit the market they get another job.
Randy Moss & Ricky Williams quit on their squads and they still have jobs.
He is the best receiver in football.
his job is not to be the best wr in football...his job is to help the team win...verbally raping the qb of your team is not helping them win...period
get him out...regroup rally around the fact that everyone will be burying you..prove you can win without TO...run the ball..kick the ball...tackle the other guy...go 9-7...gte the wild card and see what happens
lolol...brian mitchell in on destroying TO...saying hes not a team player...that hes doing all this talking and no one on the eagles will stand up to him...he says id 'put my hands on him'...that TO doesnt realize that his success comes from his teammates...i tell you what ill take brian mitchells word over two nerds like tony bruno and merril reese
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 09:33:45 AM
Making an example of guys in the NFL serves no purpose. Why? Because when the season is over and they hit the market they get another job.
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
This bullshtein has to stop, or you can just throw the CBA out the window. What does a contract mean if a player can whine themselves into free agency after a year?
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 09:33:45 AM
Making an example of guys in the NFL serves no purpose. Why? Because when the season is over and they hit the market they get another job.
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
This bullshtein has to stop, or you can just throw the CBA out the window. What does a contract mean if a player can whine themselves into free agency after a year?
They only own his ass if they pay him $7.5M in March.
He ain't getting that 7.5 mil. He'll be a FA and he'll have a job with another team.
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
well they do...sort of...if they pay him that roster bonus in march...but why are you going to waste money on a guy you dont want...especially that much money
that would be mighty petty of the eagles to pay him just so he cant play anywhere else...wash your hands of him and let him be someone elses problem....
This thread is moving too quickly for me to join in the fun, and I've got meetings all day. :(
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 09:40:48 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 09:33:45 AM
Making an example of guys in the NFL serves no purpose. Why? Because when the season is over and they hit the market they get another job.
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
This bullshtein has to stop, or you can just throw the CBA out the window. What does a contract mean if a player can whine themselves into free agency after a year?
They only own his ass if they pay him $7.5M in March.
He ain't getting that 7.5 mil. He'll be a FA and he'll have a job with another team.
Shame. Let him go to the Favrahhs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 09:41:26 AM
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
well they do...sort of...if they pay him that roster bonus in march...but why are you going to waste money on a guy you dont want...especially that much money
Well my friend, that's what that little letter Joey B sent him during training camp was all about. Sure...give him the roster bonus in the spring. Then take it back, bit by bit, every time the farger opens his farging mouth. Bleed the bastich to death.
wow spads is even ripping the team and andy for not dealing with TO...he is really tearing into TO...never heard him like this..."joe banner can call me into his office and fire me for all i care im done with this guy"...WOW!
and i wish everyone could have heard brian mitchell...he summed up this whole thing better than anyone ever could
now hugh is getting in that ass
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 09:39:20 AM
See, that's where you are wrong. The Eagles own his ass for the next 5 years. End his farging career if he won't play ball.
This bullshtein has to stop, or you can just throw the CBA out the window. What does a contract mean if a player can whine themselves into free agency after a year?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 12:42:50 AM
Since we're in another "bash TO" mode, I guess I'll throw in some comments from "Mr. NC" today.....TO will not be back, he's "a d**k....a cancer.....one of the worst people I've ever met"...
As I have said from the second TO opened his mouth this off-season. TO is gone after this year. Done. And good farging riddance.
Speaking of Spuds...
QuoteA Selfish Act Tests Team's Strength
November 4, 2005
His words are biting and selfish and have me steaming. Boiling over. Disgusted.
Terrell Owens went on ESPN on Thursday night and blasted the Eagles organization, pointed fingers at the team's 4-3 start and basically, once again, put himself ahead of the other 52 players in the locker room.
Awful.
Only a few days after head coach Andy Reid stood in front of the team and gave a "We are one" speech, Owens goes off and separates himself from the pack.
Just a few days before the start of an ultra-critical NFC East stretch of games, Owens has put himself apart from the team. He has, apparently given no thought to how destructive his words could be to a team struggling at 4-3. Then again, maybe he understands perfectly.
There is always, it seems, a method to his badness. It's all about him.
In case you missed it -- and I did, because Owens' television appearances these days, limited to ESPN, lack any kind of entertainment punch -- Owens spoke to the Worldwide Leader In Sports on Thursday and, well, here is what he said, followed by my reaction.
I trust you will feel something after reading on ...
When asked if the Eagles would be 7-0 if Brett Favre were the quarterback, Owens said: "That's a good assessment. I'd agree with that. A number of commentators will say he's a warrior, he's played with injuries. I feel like him being knowledgeable about the quarterback position, I feel like we'd probably be in a better situation."
Then Owens added: "If Donovan (McNabb) wasn't hurt our record would probably be better."
My reaction: How dare Owens show such a lack of respect for his quarterback, the one whom he begged to play with last year, the one who helped Owens have one of his finest seasons, the one who looks for Owens 15 times a game and who never gets in Owens' face when he drops a pass, which, by the way, happens.
What can Owens possibly gain from such remarks? How does it benefit McNabb, who, yes, is not at the top of his game but who has played through a multitude of injuries this season -- hey, throughout his career.
Typical, I guess. Blame somebody else, even the hand that feeds you.
Owens was asked about not having in-stadium recognition when he scored his 100th career receiving touchdown against the Chargers. He railed on the Eagles organization for that one.
"They claim to be first-class and the best organization. I just felt it was like an embarrassment. It just shows the lack of class that they had."
My reaction: When Owens scored his 100th career touchdown against the Raiders a couple of weeks earlier, there were repeated mentions of the feat, video board recognition and plenty of hoopla.
And in that same Chargers game, McNabb was not recognized for completing his 35th pass of the game, a franchise record.
Poor, T.O. He wants every eye on him every step of the way. Does he understand the impact he has with the words he speaks, with the show-off actions he takes?
What an ego.
Owens was also asked about next year. Will he be an Eagle?
"I just want to be happy. If it's here then I would love to be here, if not you got to move on ... If there's a situation where they have a change of heart and come to their senses and pay me what I'm worth, then I'd be more than happy to be here.
"At this time I'm being honest with myself just trying to look toward the future and I just don't see myself really being here. It's not because I don't want to be here but I just don't foresee them doing the necessary things to keep me here."
My reaction: I wouldn't pay the guy another dime. He is in the second year of a seven-year contract and he's already being fairly compensated for his value to the team.
I guess Owens doesn't understand that "value to the team" takes into account more than catches and touchdowns. Does he understand that his "value to the team" lowers every time he opens his mouth?
I bought into last year. Owens made it easy to be a fan of his. He was cordial with the media and the organization. He was great on the field. He was terrific with the fans. Was it all fake? Was it all an act?
Is the only way to make him happy to keep throwing money at him? Geez, isn't that what is wrong with America? Greed? Selfishness?
Finally, Owens was asked about the Eagles fans. "I love the Philly fans. I know I've lost some but there are a lot of fans that understand where I'm coming from and they enjoy what I do on the football field," he said. "I still feel that overall there are more people that love me than hate me."
My reaction: I wouldn't be too sure that more people "love me than hate me."
Eagles fans uncharacteristically poured their hearts out to Owens last season. They allowed themselves to love the guy. They serenaded him.
And then Owens dragged fans' emotions into his gutter after the Super Bowl.
Love him? How could you? You respect his talents as a football player, but what else is there to love? A guy who tries to rip apart a team -- and by team I'm talking about players, coaches, the organization, the fans -- by constantly putting himself first?
I don't think so.
So what do the Eagles do? Andy Reid can't be happy. He's now got to deal with another T.O. sideshow two days before this game in Washington. Reid will be asked over and over again at his Friday afternoon press conference about Owens' statements and about how the team will address those statements.
I suspect Reid will look to keep his reactions "in house."
That's fine. But something must be done. Owens is trying to take money out of the pockets of the other 52 players in the locker room. That can't sit well with his teammates.
So I call on the leaders in the locker room to take a stand. Enough is enough. Owens has been the headliner all week once again -- is there any coincidence that this is happening with two nationally-televised games ahead? -- with his injury situation and now this.
It's really nauseating. Owens thinks he can -- actually, he appears to have this ultimate goal -- rip the team apart. Does he want to win a Super Bowl? It doesn't seem that way to me. Seems to me he wants to prove he can be all-powerful and tear the Eagles apart.
That can't happen. The team has to rise above Owens and his selfishness. What to do about Owens? I have my thoughts. I'm holding back, believe me. He's not an Eagle, that's for sure. He clearly doesn't want what is good for the team, only for himself.
I'd love to be able to dismiss what Owens says, because his words are so irrelevant. This time, though, he's really ticked me off. We'll find out today how ticked off everyone else in that locker room is as they have to deal with another Owens blather fest during the weekend that kicks off a defining part of this Eagles season.
Wow.
:-\
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 09:46:16 AM
wow spads is even ripping the team and andy for not dealing with TO...he is really tearing into TO...never heard him like this..."joe banner can call me into his office and fire me for all i care im done with this guy"...WOW!
HOLY SHTEIN! :o Way to go Spadz!
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 09:43:29 AM
This thread is moving too quickly for me to join in the fun, and I've got meetings all day. :(
:-D I feel you Dio!!
My two cents:
T.O. is the best (IMO) WR in the game today, we all knew he was a loud mouth attention whore when he signed with us. We all cheered and sang his song last year when he was tearing up the league, the guy was practically a God after the superbowl. Well we are now seeing some of the downside of T.O. the whiner, the complainer. We knew it was there, that he had it in him. so what do we do, cut ties with the Best WR in the game? It's what comes with T.O. I don't agree with his comments, but thats what you get out of T.O., he does not think before he opens his big Mouth. We made our Bed, now we have to live with him and his antics.
do it banner. do it.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 09:43:29 AM
This thread is moving too quickly for me to join in the fun, and I've got meetings all day. :(
We made our Bed, now we have to live with him and his antics.
Actually, we don't.
The Eagles can and should show him the door.
If comments like the ones he made aren't considered "conduct detrimental to the franchise" then I don't know what would be.
Please please please send TO home. Get him out of uniform, out of the locker room, and off the field. Please, get rid of him.
I'm begging.
T.O. is the best (IMO) WR in the game today, we all knew he was a loud mouth attention whore when he signed with us
no deion sanders and michael irvin were loudmouthed attention whores...but they were also great teammates and helped their teams win...TO is way above and beyond a loud mouthed attention whore and is not helping his team win
Solution? Bench TO. Cut Spach and Parry. Sign a real FB. Re-sign The Chad. Start running the ball and working the short passing game. That's the 'rjs runs the team' plan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 09:55:17 AM
T.O. is the best (IMO) WR in the game today, we all knew he was a loud mouth attention whore when he signed with us
no deion sanders and michael irvin were loudmouthed attention whores...but they were also great teammates and helped their teams win...TO is way above and beyond a loud mouthed attention whore and is not helping his team win
Agreement boner.
Solution?
get TO out...regroup rally around the fact that everyone will be burying you..prove you can win without TO...run the ball..kick the ball...tackle the other guy...go 9-7...get the wild card and see what happens
It won't be long before TO starts clamoring for McMahon: "You gimme big Mike at QB, and I'll put up 2000 yards receiving." :-D
maybe Spuds knows something is going to happen and that's why he's getting brave now.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 10:02:45 AM
maybe Spuds knows something is going to happen and that's why he's getting brave now.
i was thinking the same thing...this is totally out of character for him.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 09:55:23 AM
Solution? Bench TO. Cut Spach and Parry. Sign a real FB. Re-sign The Chad. Start running the ball and working the short passing game. That's the 'rjs runs the team' plan.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Quote from: Syracuse on November 04, 2005, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 09:55:23 AM
Solution? Bench TO. Cut Spach and Parry. Sign a real FB. Re-sign The Chad. Start running the ball and working the short passing game. That's the 'rjs runs the team' plan.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I know it's boring, but enough is enough. Spach and Parry are straight stealing money from this team and if and when we ever start running, we're going to need a real FB.
Quote from: mhunt on November 04, 2005, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 10:02:45 AM
maybe Spuds knows something is going to happen and that's why he's getting brave now.
i was thinking the same thing...this is totally out of character for him.
A very smart person gave me this idea:
Put T.O. and Dave in a room together. Lock door.
My addition:
To make it a little more fun, give Dave some brass knuckles and light body armor.
why does to want to get in on the favre ball licking all of a sudden? madden takes up all the room, does to think that he can start finding some new space on his left nut to tickle?
For the record, before I go to sleep for the "night"...
If they do decide to suspend him, I will still back the team. But I think that not having him will cost the team. I do not agree with what he said about Favre being here.
My whole point was that this is nothing new for TO. We all knew what this guy was about before he came here.
Maybe the offense would get better. I don't necessarily think so, but I could be wrong. It will be much harder to score and the days of everyone hatin on the dink and dunk will return because that is what the Birds will be.
I would not be shocked to see him suspended when I wake up about 6pm.
It's actually not out of character for him at all.
He's the organization's front-man. He's always pushing the party line, so to speak, so why would this occasion be any different.
T.O.'s fricken done, guys. No way they let him get away with this. They can't. They just can't.
By the way... count me as a fan of T.O.'s undeniable talent. I'm truly sorry that it's ended up this way. I was as happy as anyone when the Eagles acquired T.O. We all took him at his word and assumed he was happy to be there and that the San Francisco situation was an aberration. I was wrong. We were all wrong. So be it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 10:09:22 AM
I would not be shocked to see him suspended when I wake up about 6pm.
You want us to wake you if they cut him?
;)
just wake him at 2pm anyway. tell him trotter broke his leg and they resigned levon kirkland.
They won't cut him. It would penalize him more to suspend him for the rest of the season, even if they had to pay him.
agreed.
suspend him...then trade him for a 5th round pick in the offseason. ;D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 04, 2005, 10:11:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 10:09:22 AM
I would not be shocked to see him suspended when I wake up about 6pm.
You want us to wake you if they cut him?
;)
:-D Yeah, just like when Trotter signed. If TO's suspended, call me.
I don't want him cut, then he gets to go somewhere, else. Bench him suspend him whatever, don't let this guy go somewhere that hurts us down the road.
like ff said...under no circumstances is he being cut
Quote from: MDS on November 04, 2005, 10:13:24 AM
just wake him at 2pm anyway. tell him trotter broke his leg and they resigned levon kirkland.
:-D
Maybe Herm will give us Barry Gardner back.
I still like the Spadaro (with weapons/armor) & Owens locked room fight. A cage match on PPV would be cool too.
Today could be a huge day for the Eagles organization. Andy could turn this all around, IMO.
1. Suspend T.O. for the Washington game. Say a decision will be made next week on the Cowboys game.
2. Get Westbrook inked TODAY. The deadline is coming, and he is now unquestionably the best player on the offense, maybe on the whole team (with McNabb's injury and T.O.'s suspension).
Easy. This would lead to a fired-up TEAM, and a win in Washington.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 10:21:18 AM
Today could be a huge day for the Eagles organization. Andy could turn this all around, IMO.
1. Suspend T.O. for the Washington game. Say a decision will be made next week on the Cowboys game.
2. Get Westbrook inked TODAY. The deadline is coming, and he is now unquestionably the best player on the offense, maybe on the whole team (with McNabb's injury and T.O.'s suspension).
Easy. This would lead to a fired-up TEAM, and a win in Washington.
I agree. Won't happen, but we could dream...
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 10:21:18 AM
Today could be a huge day for the Eagles organization. Andy could turn this all around, IMO.
1. Suspend T.O. for the Washington game. Say a decision will be made next week on the Cowboys game.
2. Get Westbrook inked TODAY. The deadline is coming, and he is now unquestionably the best player on the offense, maybe on the whole team (with McNabb's injury and T.O.'s suspension).
Easy. This would lead to a fired-up TEAM, and a win in Washington.
i'm with you, but don't think either one will happen. especially Westbrook. i have been pro-Westbrook this whole time. but if he turned down this latest offer than I am done with him.
I think with Owens sealing his fate, Westbrook's demands will increase significantly.
Why do I have nightmares of either Jesse Jackson or Jimmy Carter getting involved? :paranoid
Quote from: Larry on November 04, 2005, 10:25:38 AM
I think with Owens sealing his fate, Westbrook's demands will increase significantly.
I think Westbrook's demands simply increase as a percentage higher than the Eagles' most recent offer.
Like Billy Wagner, he's claiming he wants to stay in Philly, but he really wants to get on the open market.
i'm with you, but don't think either one will happen. especially Westbrook. i have been pro-Westbrook this whole time. but if he turned down this latest offer than I am done with him
why tho?
if they had offered this in the summer hes signed right now...they gambled and now he has a right to gamble on free agency in the off season...they took their time in offering him what he wanted now he can take his own time in signing it...or not signing it
Incorrect. He wanted to test the open market all along. He is making them absolutely overpay if they want to lock him up before he gets on the open market. At this point, though, overpaying slightly would look like a good idea... unless they honestly want to go after Alexander or Edge, which I doubt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 10:28:15 AM
i'm with you, but don't think either one will happen. especially Westbrook. i have been pro-Westbrook this whole time. but if he turned down this latest offer than I am done with him
why tho?
if they had offered this in the summer hes signed right now...they gambled and now he has a right to gamble on free agency in the off season...they took their time in offering him what he wanted now he can take his own time in signing it...or not signing it
i'm saying I'm done with him if the recent report that he now wants more than Lamont Jordan money is true. Because the whole time, all you heard was that he wanted Lamont Jordan money. So, if they offered it, and now he wants more, to me that signals that he's no longer interested in being on the team like he claims and is blinded by the possibility that if they offered him that much, he can more on the open market. Call me gullible, but I believed that he really wanted to stay here and if they offered what he wanted, he would stay.
Incorrect. He wanted to test the open market all along
i disagree with that...but only westbrook knows for sure...
Spew goes off about TO. (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=38790)
question:
QuoteBTW here is the question. If you can criticise Owens for his bad attitude, why can't you criticize McNabb for his bad play????
Dave's surprisingly good response:
QuoteI thank you for your response. Here is mine: This is only a Donovan issue because T.O. has made it one. I have said many times that Donovan is struggling. Everybody acknowledges that. He's trying to fight through it in a professional manner, as always.
Owens, on the hand, in the midst of this very tenuous time, chooses to go on TV and call a teammate out, call an organization out, make more headlines for himself. Why?
What has happened in this case, in my opinion, is that Owens sold out a teammate. Is McNabb not playing well? He went 0 for 12, dummy. Of course he's not playing well. Who is playing well? Why isn't the defense being dragged down, or the special teams or ...
So, the point is, there is a right to fight through adversity and there is a wrong way to fight through adversity. Get it? See my viewpoint. If you care about the team, you handle it the right way. I can't tolerate any Eagle who doesn't care about the team.
spew is going to go down in flames.
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 11:23:17 AM
Spew goes off about TO. (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=38790)
Already posted, bro.
;)
how long until Spew is fired.
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 11:33:28 AM
how long until Spew is fired.
That all depends on whether or not his opinion actually is that of the Eagles organization.
Ever get the feeling that something big is going to happen, and you have to keep refreshing the MB so you don't miss a second of it?
This is starting to feel like a bombshell is about to go off...a big one.
Koy starting?
Quote from: Larry on November 04, 2005, 11:52:35 AM
Koy starting?
Koy starting. T.O. cut. Westbrook told to go farg a darg. Dawkins promises to kill someone.
I can see a lineup of Koy, Moats and Greg Lewis starting a dynasty. yes!!!
i love how the title of this thread is a question. like there was some interpretation of TO's remarks needed.
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 11:54:45 AM
I can see a lineup of Koy, Moats and Greg Lewis starting a dynasty. yes!!!
The new triplets. Believe!
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 11:33:28 AM
how long until Spew is fired.
Fair fargs. He's going down in a blaze of glory. ALL HAIL SPADZ
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 11:33:28 AM
how long until Spew is fired.
That all depends on whether or not his opinion actually is that of the Eagles organization.
If Lurie/Reid/Banner are voicing their opinions through Spew-puppet and not acting on them (see: cutting TO) they should all be flogged.
Cutting T.O. is stupid, because it would be giving him what he wants.
can we all agree that from here on out cut=off the team
TO is a total douchebag just like all of his fans. :-D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/greenhabit/todouche.jpg%5Bimg%5D)
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:08:19 PM
TO is a total douchebag just like all Canadians. :paranoid
I agree. Great post.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:08:19 PM
TO is a total douchebag just like all of his fans. :-D
You're still my bitch though, aren't you canuck?
(http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16898.msg337720#msg337720)
LOL...you know what I could care less what you say about Canada and stuff like that. Take a look at your team and it's a total fuc king mess.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:26:43 PM
LOL...you know what I could care less what you say about Canada and stuff like that. Take a look at your team and it's a total fuc king mess.
such a naughty canadian fag with your dirty mouth
i see we ate all our gay pills this morning
come on don't fight the good karma brought on by being at the top of the shi t pile as far as fans are concerned. You guys deserve this. You know what is really funny is most of the fans in Philly agreed with TO and said..yeah...that Garcia guy was a total crap QB.... :-D
...he just needs a change of scenery...AGAIN..ha ha. :P
i don't know why you're laughing so much. it's not like the Broncos will win a playoff game this year, again.
Garcia is and was a total crap QB.
atleast i can say i saw a couple superbowl wins. We have a much better shot this year of doing something than you guys do. You don't run the ball...your quarterback is toast, your best player wants out...your coach looks like if he eats one more bite he's going to burst...need i go on?
What the heLL do you have? farg even our shtein Blue Jays beat the Phillies in the ninties to win a World series. Now what the hell is that about? It's called Karma.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:40:07 PM
atleast i can say i saw a couple superbowl wins. We have a much better shot this year of doing something than you guys do. You don't run the ball...your quarterback is toast, your best player wants out...your coach looks like if he eats one more bite he's going to burst...need i go on?
What the heLL do you have? farg even our shtein Blue Jays beat the Phillies in the ninties to win a World series. Now what the hell is that about? It's called Karma.
It's so easy to talk trash after your team wins, eh? Shouldn't you be trolling a new opponent today?
Back on topic: Andy Reid is addressing the media in 3 minutes.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:40:07 PM
atleast i can say i saw a couple superbowl wins. We have a much better shot this year of doing something than you guys do. You don't run the ball...your quarterback is toast, your best player wants out...your coach looks like if he eats one more bite he's going to burst...need i go on?
What the heLL do you have? farg even our shtein Blue Jays beat the Phillies in the ninties to win a World series. Now what the hell is that about? It's called Karma.
A)What is karmatic about any of that? Because we accurately state Canada sucks?
2)The Eagles' best player is not Terrell Owens.
C)TO_is_GOD is a raging idiot.
atleast i can say i saw a couple superbowl wins
yeah but you had to do it by bandwagoning a team and even worse you did it from canada
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 12:36:32 PM
Garcia is and was a total crap QB.
I didn't say he wasn't, but did Owens have to tell that to everyone on the planet? Does he have to go on to ESPN to tell everyone that he hates playing for the best team in the NFC? He's an icehole! The only player worse is Moss and thats only because Moss has a fetish for running over parking ticket ladies. ;D
I've seen quite a few Super Bowl wins too; probably about 25 or so.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 12:42:19 PM
Back on topic: Andy Reid is addressing the media in 3 minutes.
Oh boy. This should be interesting...
He's late. I'm watching. Will update.
Some homo just tested the mike. It works.
There's like no one from the media there yet. Spadaro says that Donovan practiced today.
Breaking News: Spadaro disciple Chris McPherson and new punter Reggie Hodges look very much alike!
Uh excuse me, you are our little Byatch. You have nothing to stop us, like an 8 month old little baby girl. The only thing that would stop Mexico from running over your sorry butt is us., and we protect you from big bad russia too. Your freedoms are from us, and our protection and status as the strongest country on Earth. Let me know when your in our country next time for an operation and I'll stop by and say hello.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:40:07 PM
atleast i can say i saw a couple superbowl wins. We have a much better shot this year of doing something than you guys do. You don't run the ball...your quarterback is toast, your best player wants out...your coach looks like if he eats one more bite he's going to burst...need i go on?
What the heLL do you have? farg even our shtein Blue Jays beat the Phillies in the ninties to win a World series. Now what the hell is that about? It's called Karma.
Where were you the past four years when your team wasn't doing anything? Yeah, that's what i thought.
Dave's drinking some sort of tea-colored beverage out of a plastic bottle. I think it's tea.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
Uh excuse me, you are our little Byatch. You have nothing to stop us, like an 8 month old little baby girl. The only thing that would stop Mexico from running over your sorry butt is us., and we protect you from big bad russia too. Your freedoms are from us, and our protection and status as the strongest country on Earth. Let me know when your in our country next time for an operation and I'll stop by and say hello.
an operation????? huh?
Our health care system is better then yours, try and keep up.
Will you all please shut up? I'm trying to get updates on Dave Spadaro's skin tone and taste in beverage.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 12:56:20 PM
Will you all please shut up? I'm trying to get updates on Dave Spadaro's skin tone and taste in beverage.
:flipoff
Hahaha...i love it when a US and Canadian citizen get into it over why Canada even exists or how they even exist. It's hilarious...true, but hilarious.
If someone can watch on CSN or something, please do, and post updates. The web version is starting to go flaky.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
Uh excuse me, you are our little Byatch. You have nothing to stop us, like an 8 month old little baby girl. The only thing that would stop Mexico from running over your sorry butt is us., and we protect you from big bad russia too. Your freedoms are from us, and our protection and status as the strongest country on Earth. Let me know when your in our country next time for an operation and I'll stop by and say hello.
Who the farg are YOU? Are you the boarder patrol? LOL. You make it sound like I live in a third world country. The only operation that I'll be doing in the US is a big drunk going to a game in Denver this year.
The media's starting to fill in the room now. Exciting.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 12:08:19 PM
TO is a total douchebag just like all of his fans. :-D
says the man who probably wore a Romanowski jersey for 6 years. Get bent.
Hey.. look at me.. I'm from Canada 'eh.. and I just randomly picked a football team that won SuperBowls to route for.... front running bandwagon hoser.
Take off, you knob.
Sod Off Hoser!
Stay on topic folks, or I'll use my new Mod powers to delete your post. Updates on the press conference?
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 01:03:13 PM
Stay on topic folks, or I'll use my new Mod powers to delete your post. Updates on the press conference?
farg you ...this coming from a guy that made fun of House getting seriously hurt in a car crash...loser.
The camera guy is checking out some blonde chick who keeps flipping her hair. We are also getting a good view of the video cameras brought by the press.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 01:02:53 PM
[I've been a fan for 25 years douchebag....
prove it ya fleshy headed mutant...
but let me guess... you're a Yankees and Lakers fan too, right ?
I've been a fan for 25 years douchebag
sure you have
anyway if anything drastic had happened with TO...ie suspension told to go home kicked off the team ect...it would have already been out there...this will be the same old garbage from andy...unless he read spads column today where upon he may announce the date and time of To's public castration
QuoteWho the farg are YOU? Are you the boarder patrol? LOL. You make it sound like I live in a third world country. The only operation that I'll be doing in the US is a big drunk going to a game in Denver this year.
Border Patrol? :-D The only reason we have one up there is cause you fargs might be letting terrorists sneak into your country. It is the largest non-guarded border in the world, and there is a reason for that, YOU DON'T SCARE ANYONE!! I went to Canada once for the falls, Holy Schnikes your taxes are high, the couple people I talked to went to the US side for health care and you gas was off the charts. Your ketchup tastes bad, there is nothing I desire in Canada. Unlike you who desires an American Football team, so if everything is so picture perfect up der root for one of your own damn teams. And as much of a tool T.O. is he might play this week, unlike your hero Elway and the Baltimore Colts. Wah wah wah, I'm not playing for you trade me to Denver wah wah.
Big Update: I had to switch to the audio only version, and I can no longer give visual updates of the crowd.
That blond chick was cute, though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:05:22 PManyway if anything drastic had happened with TO...ie suspension told to go home kicked off the team ect...it would have already been out there
How so? How would we already know? You saying they'd just issue a release, say he's been suspended, and not make Reid available?
Quotefarg you ...this coming from a guy that made fun of House getting seriously hurt in a car crash...loser.
Oh my, you could get banned for this kind of language over on the Broncofreaks, does your mod know your using a potty mouth?
Are you guys really arguing about this? Who cares. The Broncos won. This dude is a lumber jacking canadian troll. The end. Jesus.
Maybe the delay is either A) he suspended TO and they got in a fight or B) Westbrook is putting his John Hancock on a contract
Which one do you hope for more???
Jesus has nothing to do with Canada.
Update: There are no fag-ass Canadians at Reid's presser.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:09:29 PM
Maybe the delay is either A) he suspended TO and they got in a fight or B) Westbrook is putting his John Hancock on a contract
Which one do you hope for more???
the latter
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:09:29 PM
Maybe the delay is either A) he suspended TO and they got in a fight or B) Westbrook is putting his John Hancock on a contract
Which one do you hope for more???
Yeah, I'm gona have to go with both.
he's probably late because the team threw a surprise party to celebrate TO's 100th TD.
I think Andy could beat T.O. in a no-holds-barred street fight. T.O.'s in good shape, but he doesn't have the anger/killer instinct that Reid is capable of. Hell, Reid almost made Trotter piss himself a few years ago.
Fight T.O. now, Andy! I demand it!
Maybe Westbrook is having trouble removing the pen he needs to sign his contract with from TO's eyesocket?
More likely he's sitting on the can.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on November 04, 2005, 01:11:48 PM
Maybe Westbrook is having trouble removing the pen he needs to sign his contract with from TO's eyesocket?
There! You've summed up my hopes nicely.
Maybe you'll gunshots ring out in the NC auditorium and TO will stagger out and drop the ground all bloody and then AR will walk out with a 44 magnum in his hand and blow the smoke from the barrel. How cool would that be?!
How so? How would we already know? You saying they'd just issue a release, say he's been suspended, and not make Reid available?
because TO would have already been told to leave and would have been spotted in the parking lot by one of the 10,000 media members that are on the novacare grounds...and you best believe he would have seeked out a microphone by now...called michael irvin or his agent...i just cant believe something that big could have happened and it not be reported out there somewhere
Finally!!
Kearse practiced
Donovan practiced, but started out stiff
Rayburn practiced, did well
Akers practiced, did well
As an afterthought, he mentioned that T.O. practiced.
Reid saying he'll take care of it "in house". Blah blah blah.
IGY wins.
"Do you regret bringing T.O. here?"
"I wouldn't say that."
So glad I stayed late after work for that. :win
TO is gonna be sent home later and you can tell that AR has been yelling today.
It's obvious Andy either hasn't paid much attention to this recent T.O. stuff, or he simply hasn't decided how best to deal with it. He's being even more non-committal than usual in his responses.
I don't know - when Eskin asked if he would suspend TO, he said something like "We'll see" - I would have expected more of a denial there...
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:22:03 PM
TO is gonna be sent home later and you can tell that AR has been yelling today.
He yells during practice. Ever go to training camp?
By the way, why are you so sure that T.O. will be sent home?
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
grow a set, reid...send that a-hole TO packing.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:22:03 PM
TO is gonna be sent home later
Um, says who? You? Because Reid never said anything of the sort.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:22:03 PM
TO is gonna be sent home later and you can tell that AR has been yelling today.
He yells during practice. Ever go to training camp?
By the way, why are you so sure that T.O. will be sent home?
No...he isn't that bad after a friday practice. I bet he got into a shouting match with TO. How could you not send him home after the shtein he did.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:22:03 PM
TO is gonna be sent home later
Um, says who? You? Because Reid never said anything of the sort.
You finally decide to make an appearance to question my opinion? Whatever. I think he will and that's enough.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:14:50 PMbecause TO would have already been told to leave and would have been spotted in the parking lot by one of the 10,000 media members that are on the novacare grounds...and you best believe he would have seeked out a microphone by now...called michael irvin or his agent...i just cant believe something that big could have happened and it not be reported out there somewhere
Of course you're right.
Quote from: mhunt on November 04, 2005, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Ah, so he should be a mind reader as well as a time traveller. Got it.
For every player on the team willing to speak out against T.O., there are 3-4 who would rather keep their mouths shut about him or take his side. Speaking out against him publicly makes them no better than him.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 01:22:03 PM
TO is gonna be sent home later
Um, says who? You? Because Reid never said anything of the sort.
I know it's fun to belittle the waco kid, but you've got more important things to worry about... (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16944.new#new)
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 04, 2005, 01:30:22 PM
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Ah, so he should be a mind reader as well as a time traveller. Got it.
he should know the emotional state of his team...part of his job is motivation, no?
He knows. He might not have heard about Akers' specific comments yet, but he knows how the players feel about T.O.
Anyone catch the BS apology from TO? I just missed it, and only got Spads paraphrase...
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 01:34:44 PM
Anyone catch the BS apology from TO? I just missed it, and only got Spads paraphrase...
I heard it was obviously prepared and probably written by someone else.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:31:27 PM
For every player on the team willing to speak out against T.O., there are 3-4 who would rather keep their mouths shut about him or take his side. Speaking out against him publicly makes them no better than him.
That's nice and all, but I'd respect Donovan a lot better--and I reckon so would many others, including his teamates--if he punched TO in the mouth. If he can't do it physically, here't to hoping that he'll tell a microphone: "The Eagles are my team, not his. He's here at my will. If he doesn't shut up, he'll be gone. Or he'll be my third read on every play. Got it?"
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:35:28 PM
I heard it was obviously prepared and probably written by someone else.
Are you saying that TO is illiterate?! Because that's what I'm saying.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Ah, so he should be a mind reader as well as a time traveller. Got it.
he should know the emotional state of his team...part of his job is motivation, no?
Maybe he knows, but he's keeping it to himself??? Andy kind of does this occasionally. Or maybe he's too busy building his time machine.
and to think we are only 7 games into the season. ha.
if i was mcnabb i would be steaming right now...TO has molested him now on multiple occasions and the team has done absolutely nothing about it...disgraceful
From Comcast Sportsnet (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_0p.asp?ID=18619):
QuoteAsked whether Owens would be suspended for his remarks, Reid didn't say no.
"We'll see how things go," Reid said. "I'm still in the middle of addressing the issue. That's the way I'll keep it. Right now, that's between TO and myself."
As expected, Reid didn't offer his opinion on Owens' comments.
"I take care of those things in house. I don't take it out in the public," he said. "That's the way I'll handle this. It will be in house business. I will address the player and the people that I need to talk to."
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 01:37:36 PM
Asked whether Owens would be suspended for his remarks, Reid didn't say no.
That's what I meant about him being even more non-committal than usual.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Ah, so he should be a mind reader as well as a time traveller. Got it.
he should know the emotional state of his team...part of his job is motivation, no?
Maybe he knows, but he's keeping it to himself??? Andy kind of does this occasionally. Or maybe he's too busy building his time machine.
Quotei dont know anything about what those guys are thinking
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:37:30 PM
if i was mcnabb i would be steaming right now...TO has molested him now on multiple occasions and the team has done absolutely nothing about it...disgraceful
It's embarrassing to root for the Eagles as long as they keep TO around. We are the laughingstock of the NFL.
TO came in and apologized. His apology coming from him reading a notecard. Awesome.
I don't think IGY's quote was correct.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 04, 2005, 01:39:34 PM
TO came in and apologized. His apology coming from him reading a notecard. Awesome.
???
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:39:47 PM
I don't think IGY's quote was correct.
Which one? [shorebird] I are confused.[/shorebird]
i wish i'd fall down the steps and go into a coma until next season.
TO just read an apology at the NovaCare Center in the conference room aired by CSN, following Andy's News Conference (without much conviction):
"I'll make this short and sweet. I'm going to read a statement regarding last night's interview with Graham Binsinger (sp?):
"I've had an opportunity to talk with the Eagles organization and I have learned that the team does not recognize individual achievements. It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates, therefore I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments toward them. Thank you."
The reporters shouted a few questions to him as he left the podium, which he didn't acknowledge.
If I were McNabb I would have gone on a shooting spree by now. The guy has a ton of injuries, a coach who wont run at all, a teamate always talking shtein for no reason, and a city of icehole fans. ha.
From what I could gather from Spads after the statement, TO came in and said two sentences, then left. Something like "I understand that the team does not recognized individual achievements and I'm sorry because what I said offended the team"
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 01:42:44 PM
If I were McNabb I would have gone on a shooting spree by now. The guy has a ton of injuries, a coach who wont run at all, a teamate always talking shtein for no reason, and a city of icehole fans. ha.
One of these days, he's going to snap. It's inevitable.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on November 04, 2005, 01:42:02 PM"I've had an opportunity to talk with the Eagles organization and I have learned that the team does not recognize individual achievements. It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates, therefore I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments toward them. Thank you."
Jesus Christ, this guy brings new dimensions to petulance.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:26:46 PM
when told that david akers said on wip this morning that TO was definitely affecting the locker room andy said "i dont know anything about what those guys are thinking"
that doesn't surprise me.
ps- he should know...he's the damn coach.
Ah, so he should be a mind reader as well as a time traveller. Got it.
he should know the emotional state of his team...part of his job is motivation, no?
Maybe he knows, but he's keeping it to himself??? Andy kind of does this occasionally. Or maybe he's too busy building his time machine.
Quotei dont know anything about what those guys are thinking
QuoteI'm happy with our wide receivers. I need to put them in a better position to make plays. (or words to that effect)
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 01:42:44 PM
If I were McNabb I would have gone on a shooting spree by now. The guy has a ton of injuries, a coach who wont run at all, a teamate always talking shtein for no reason, and a city of icehole fans. ha.
Tell me about it. Target practice would have started weeks ago.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:37:30 PM
if i was mcnabb i would be steaming right now...TO has molested him now on multiple occasions and the team has done absolutely nothing about it...disgraceful
At least not publically. I doubt this is just ignored internally, as obviously evidenced by the comments today.
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
They just read it on ESPN radio.
Donovan is going to kill him. It's a mater of time.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
HA!
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on November 04, 2005, 01:42:02 PM
TO just read an apology at the NovaCare Center in the conference room aired by CSN, following Andy's News Conference (without much conviction):
"I'll make this short and sweet. I'm going to read a statement regarding last night's interview with Graham Binsinger (sp?):
"I've had an opportunity to talk with the Eagles organization and I have learned that the team does not recognize individual achievements. It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates, therefore I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments toward them. Thank you."
The reporters shouted a few questions to him as he left the podium, which he didn't acknowledge.
:o I can't believe TO did that, the birds have him by his short hairs.
It's always the quiet ones. McNabb will probably flip his wig at the end of the season.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
Post of the Year nominee.
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 01:42:44 PM
If I were McNabb I would have gone on a shooting spree by now. The guy has a ton of injuries, a coach who wont run at all, a teamate always talking shtein for no reason, and a city of icehole fans. ha.
And I'll tell you what, he should. He should take TO out. Annhiliate him publicly. He has the court of public opinion, and overwhelmning moral authority. He's got to do something about this. How can he lead the team in the face of mutiny like this?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 01:47:01 PM
:o I can't believe TO did that, the birds have him by his short hairs.
Joe Banner: "Come in and sit down TO. Yes, now let's talk about conduct detremental to the team...you remember that memo I sent you a couple months ago? I thought so..."
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
Post of the Year nominee.
Hear hear.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
Post of the Year nominee.
Cute, but hardly worth of that ignomy.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 01:49:13 PM
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Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:46:33 PM
all we would have had were a bunch of players with bullet holes in their feet
Post of the Year nominee.
Cute, but hardly worth of that ignomy.
you're letting your hatred of me cloud your judgement
Nope. It was clever, but not that clever. You're right though, I do hate you. You're a prick.
Conversation with a co-worker (most of my team is in the Bay Area in CA):
QuoteFF - in other news, T.O. has worn out his welcome in another city
other guy - you mean his sale of his house / front-yard workout area in Jersey?
FF - last night, he told ESPN that he thought the Eagles would be undefeated with Brett Favre at QB
FF - among other things
other guy - ooohhh ... so he's moved on from peyton manning then ...
FF - apparently
other guy - not our problem anymore ... although when Niners get blown out on Sundays, there's always a longing
other guy - just like webber, or gilbert arenas, for the warriors.
FF - we have Webber too
FF - argh
other guy - at least david bell's done well for you ... last i remember. is he still on the phillies?
I need to stab someone NOW.
They need to clarify this suspension thing quickly or the season is in the tank.
mcnabb should call TO gay.
Reid will probably end up suspending him. The fact that he didn't deny such an uncommon action indicates he is considering about it....he may be going thru the union first before setting things in motion.
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 01:47:01 PM
:o I can't believe TO did that, the birds have him by his short hairs.
Joe Banner: "Come in and sit down TO. Yes, now let's talk about conduct detremental to the team...you remember that memo I sent you a couple months ago? I thought so..."
It probably went more like:
TO, let's talk about Gleek the Space Monkey. The new show featured classic D.C. Comics characters like Batman, Wonder Woman, and the Flash, so you could imagine how happy I was when I discovered that Target was selling some of their characters as action figures. There were two sizes, 4 inch and 10 inch figures, and, of course, I wanted to purchase them both. Finding the Flash, Superman, and Aquaman was easy, but finding the other characters has been a considerable challenge.
When I finally found the 10-inch Wonder Woman, she came as a set with Batman. I guess that's because, on the TV series, they're dating, but what am I supposed to do with two 10-inch Batmans?
If that weren't enough, I can't find any 10-inch figures for three other characters, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter.
I had better luck with the 4-inch figures, but I found that they don't stand up very well on their own. I finally had to glue them down to keep them from falling. That's simply outrageous.
*getting angry*
Bottom line, TO: the new Justice League action figures should be easier to find and collect, and the 4-inch figures should stand up without glue!
TO: IL B SUR 2 HOLA!
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 01:51:10 PM
You're right though, I do hate you. You're a prick.
i'm doing my job then.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 01:51:10 PM
You're right though, I do hate you. You're a prick.
i'm doing my job then.
So you ARE getting my mom's checks. She'll be glad to hear it.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 04, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 01:47:01 PM
:o I can't believe TO did that, the birds have him by his short hairs.
Joe Banner: "Come in and sit down TO. Yes, now let's talk about conduct detremental to the team...you remember that memo I sent you a couple months ago? I thought so..."
It probably went more like:
TO, let's talk about Gleek the Space Monkey. The new show featured classic D.C. Comics characters like Batman, Wonder Woman, and the Flash, so you could imagine how happy I was when I discovered that Target was selling some of their characters as action figures. There were two sizes, 4 inch and 10 inch figures, and, of course, I wanted to purchase them both. Finding the Flash, Superman, and Aquaman was easy, but finding the other characters has been a considerable challenge.
When I finally found the 10-inch Wonder Woman, she came as a set with Batman. I guess that's because, on the TV series, they're dating, but what am I supposed to do with two 10-inch Batmans?
If that weren't enough, I can't find any 10-inch figures for three other characters, Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter.
I had better luck with the 4-inch figures, but I found that they don't stand up very well on their own. I finally had to glue them down to keep them from falling. That's simply outrageous.
*getting angry*
Bottom line, TO: the new Justice League action figures should be easier to find and collect, and the 4-inch figures should stand up without glue!
TO: IL B SUR 2 HOLA!
You've been hanging out with stillupfront, haven't you?
you're letting your hatred of me cloud your judgement
i love you but worm burner jokes are so 2002...still it deserves praise and i wish i coudl ahve said it
the eagles front office and andy are a complete friggin joke right now...why are they giving this guy a microphone in their house...so he can give a half hearted farg everyone apology that he doesnt believe one word of...could TO play this franchise any more...for christ sakes jettison this mother farger once and for all
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 01:54:37 PM
So you ARE getting my mom's checks. She'll be glad to hear it.
He must be double-dipping. I thought
Butchers Bill would be the billpayer there.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 01:56:22 PM
you're letting your hatred of me cloud your judgement
i love you but worm burner jokes are so 2002...still it deserves praise and i wish i coudl ahve said it
but i was too busy blindly defending them back then, i'm trying to make up for lost time
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 01:56:52 PMHe must be double-dipping. I thought Butchers Bill would be the billpayer there.
The payroll isn't short.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 04, 2005, 04:03:15 AM
Weak-minded? You have no clue. I'm just tired of him trying to create controversy. He's a moron. He's a hell of a player on the field but he sucks off the field.
If he would just shtein his farging mouth and play, then fine. However, he continues to spew this shtein and he hurts the team chemistry. It helps them to lose games. So now go ahead and tell me again that i'm weak-minded. Farg that shtein!
Guess what?
TO isn't the only one hurting the team chemsitry. If TO had his lips glued shut then Brian Westbrook would still be piping up about not getting paid and not getting touches. And David Akers, had he not gotten hurt, would still be saying "pay me".
And Trotter says on his show that the Eagles FO needs to pay people.
So if you got your wish and TO shut up, then there are other people right behind him in line to bitch.
And the dude is playing. I couldn't care less what the farging moron says when he's at his house. Show up. Play hard. That's all I care about.
And TO is playing and playing well.
If I didn't feel a sense of deja vu washing over me I'd recount the numerous other sports franchises who've had to deal with big mouth idiots. But I've already done that.
TO = loud mouth who plays all out
Would you prefer a loudmouth who loafs?
there is a big difference in complaining about a contract and throwing your team under a bus.
terrell owens is a whiney childish peice of shtein that is hurting this team. farg owens
Quote"...the team does not recognize individual achievements..."
:sly Since when?
but i was too busy blindly defending them back then, i'm trying to make up for lost time
come on...grab a funny hat...join us in the aught fives and get in on the no leadership lack of mental toughness donovan bashing
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 02:18:46 PM
Quote"...the team does not recognize individual achievements..."
:sly Since when?
They DON'T announce (over the PA system) individual achievements AT games. They DO however, put them up on the big screens, which they did after his 100th TD.
I wasted ten minutes of my life reading this thread. I hate you all for being retarded in so many different directions.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 08:45:02 AM
2. They suspend him as many of you want. Then the Eagles will be in for a fight with the NFLPA. And then the team will be bombarded with even more questions. More than they are now. And then they have this little problem of replacing him in the line-up.
the NFLPA wont do anything, they have no power to, they couldnt make gruden play keyshawn. suspend the dick with pay and there are no NFLPA issues.
the NFLPA wont do anything, they have no power to
not only that but other than pg...michael irvin and phreak i dont think there is anyone on the planet who would want their name attached to defending TO
Ha!
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 02:22:21 PM
...suspend the meatcicle with pay and there are no NFLPA issues.
Ahh, but that's the catch. I want the bastich suspended
without[/i] pay...
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 02:24:22 PM
the NFLPA wont do anything, they have no power to
not only that but other than pg...michael irvin and phreak i dont think there is anyone on the planet who would want their name attached to defending TO
Find me a post I EVER made DEFENDING HIS OFF FIELD ANTICS.
GO ahead. do it.
I have said 8 MILLION times that he's a complete and utter dipshtein, but he can also make plays that this team lacks without him and what they NEED on the field.
Christ, some of you are so farging stupid. You keep saying I "defend TO" yet you never farging read what I write.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:31:42 PM
I have said 8 MILLION times that he's a complete and utter dipshtein, but he can also make plays that this team lacks without him and what they NEED on the field.
I think that's an exaggeration, dude.
but by continually saying you want him on the field defends his off the field shtein in a roundabout way.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:31:42 PM
I have said 8 MILLION times that he's a complete and utter dipshtein, but he can also make plays that this team lacks without him and what they NEED on the field.
I think that's an exaggeration, dude.
Since the shtein in the offseason, I have ALWAYS agreed that he was a complete icehole. But that he brings to the field something that no other WR has brought to the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
IF YOU DEFEND HIM BEING ON THE TEAM YOU DEFEND HIM!!
It burns when I pee
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 02:33:33 PM
but by continually saying you want him on the field defends his off the field shtein in a roundabout way.
Yep.
:-o
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:37:51 PM
:-o
excellent response to my point. when all else fails, use a smiley.
:-D
:boom
:boo
It wasn't to you Sun, it was to IGY...and his posts don't deserve any more than that.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:33:52 PM
But that he brings to the field something that no other WR has brought to the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
yeah, a dallas jersey.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:31:42 PM
I have said 8 MILLION times that he's a complete and utter dipshtein, but he can also make plays that this team lacks without him and what they NEED on the field.
I think that's an exaggeration, dude.
Since the shtein in the offseason, I have ALWAYS agreed that he was a complete icehole. But that he brings to the field something that no other WR has brought to the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
I agree with PG, as I'm sure most do about him being the most gifted/productive WR the Eagles have had since at least Mike Quick...however, I'm now in the camp that believes he also takes away more from the team than any player on the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
The Eagles are in a position right now where Reid is trying to circle the wagons and bring everyone together to focus on playing better
as a team to save the season; and, this toolbag is being quoted on ESPN as agreeing with Eagles fans' most hated ex-Cowboy, that the Eagles would be 7-0 if they had an ancient Brett Favre QB'ing the team. That's clearly not helping.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:33:52 PM
But that he brings to the field something that no other WR has brought to the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
yeah, a dallas jersey.
:-D
I'm glad to see that more and more of you are starting to see the light about TO. I found my way over to this board in the first place because I couldn't believe the lack of intelligence in other places. The fact that TO garnered so much support around here completely blew my mind. Welcome back to reality.
I agree with PG, as I'm sure most do about him being the most gifted/productive WR the Eagles have had
i said this earlier in the thread but ill say it again...his job is not to be the best wr the eagles have ever had his job is to help the eagles win...and the way he has acted since the spring is not helping this team win
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 02:47:19 PM
I agree with PG, as I'm sure most do about him being the most gifted/productive WR the Eagles have had
i said this earlier in the thread but ill say it again...his job is not to be the best wr the eagles have ever had his job is to help the eagles win...and the way he has acted since the spring is not helping this team win
you must hold the record for highest avatar turnaround in one day.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 02:33:52 PM
But that he brings to the field something that no other WR has brought to the Eagles for as long as I can remember.
yeah, a dallas jersey.
A close second in the "post of the day" competition.
you must hold the record for highest avatar turnaround in one day
i got like four or five of them on a loop for taterskin week...they switch every hour or something
wicked.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 02:47:19 PM
I agree with PG, as I'm sure most do about him being the most gifted/productive WR the Eagles have had
i said this earlier in the thread but ill say it again...his job is not to be the best wr the eagles have ever had his job is to help the eagles win...and the way he has acted since the spring is not helping this team win
100% Agreed.
More Spadaro innuendo: This T.O. Mess Is 'A Developing Story' (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=38838)
QuoteWhat we don't know is what happens with Owens. Reid certainly left open a lot of possibilities in his press conference. Owens issued his statment, saying "I have learned that the team does not recognize individual achievements. It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates.
"Therefore, I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments towards them."
Is that enough for the Eagles?
Hang in there. You'll know when I know.
You toolbags are exhausting the shtein out of me.....
wasnt there a stretch from like week 3-5 when to didnt do any interviews and things were kinda normal?
Guys don't worry he is sorry now ::)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2213944 :-D
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 03:39:14 PM
Guys don't worry he is sorry now ::)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2213944 :-D
Thanks for the update. ::)
lololol
god help murp...hes a better man than me
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
for as much as i dislike those players. i dont know if i ever remember either of them basically calling out their teammates and going on how they'd rather have a different QB.
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 03:39:14 PM
Guys don't worry he is sorry now ::)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2213944 :-D
We're sorry to, that this ahole is on our team.
I can't take anymore of this shtein!
(http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/01/68/62/image_662681.jpg)
Supposedly Jaworski is telling people that TO is going to be suspended for the season? ???
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 03:56:02 PM
Supposedly Jaworski is telling people that TO is going to be suspended for the season? ???
One can only hope he's right.
A quick PR job would be to stuff TO in the trash and get Westy signed. Lurie luvs him sum good PR.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 03:56:02 PM
Supposedly Jaworski is telling people that TO is going to be suspended for the season?
Kick ass.
Howard was saying that they were deciding right now to suspend him or not. He also said negotiations between the team and Westbrook continued today. He said you will probably see the resolution of both issues in the next 24 hours. Meaning, they will either sign Westbrook in 24 hours or its the end of it until the offseason.
hot shtein i hope jaws is right.
ME-O ME-O ME-O ME-O
ME-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ME-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 03:59:06 PM
Howard was saying that they were deciding right now to suspend him or not. He also said negotiations between the team and Westbrook continued today. He said you will probably see the resolution of both issues in the next 24 hours. Meaning, they will either sign Westbrook in 24 hours or its the end of it until the offseason.
i just hope they don't get the two confused.
omg, McMullen might break the vaunted 5 catch season this year!
A quick PR job would be to stuff TO in the trash and get Westy signed
yes
friggin wip has been out all day for me and its burnin me up
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 04:00:39 PMi just hope they don't get the two confused.
Westbrook sent home for season, Owens gets paid.
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 04:01:19 PM
omg, McMullen might break the vaunted 5 catch season this year!
all right...let's stay realistic here.
pick up greggie & reggie in all your fantasy leagues!
can anyone explain what the meeting is deciding...i have to think that hes gone but they are just going over the legal/nflpa ramafications at this point
because if what TO has done so far doesnt warrant him gone forever then outside of him giving andy a hot karl i dont know what would
Andy might like a hot carl.
[Andy Reid]First the injuries...ahem...Terrell Owens has been placed on IR with a buck shot to the chest.....Time's yours. [/Andy Reid]
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
Now why is it that I am talking shtein? I just came to see how you fans withyour blinders on are taking the latest, but certainly not last, outburst from TO
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:07:17 PM
Now why is it that I am talking shtein? I just came to see how you fans withyour blinders on are taking the latest, but certainly not last, outburst from TO
Because you are talking shtein in a 15 page thread of people trashing TO?
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 03:56:02 PM
Supposedly Jaworski is telling people that TO is going to be suspended for the season? ???
on the Giants board they are saying Jaws is on WFAN and he said that the Eagles are
looking into suspending him for the whole year.
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
Now why is it that I am talking shtein? I just came to see how you fans withyour blinders on are taking the latest, but certainly not last, outburst from TO
Because you posted something we've all been talking about for pages already.
Hence the sarcastic nature of "Nice update".
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
Now why is it that I am talking shtein? I just came to see how you fans withyour blinders on are taking the latest, but certainly not last, outburst from TO
So says the tard with blinders
id be surprised if they didnt suspend him for atleast some amount of time after this latest nonsense on ESPN. I mean, how many strikes does someone get? It's not like he wasnt warned multiple times. The Eagles would look like a bunch of pushovers if they let TO talk ish on DMAC anymore.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:01:23 PM
A quick PR job would be to stuff TO in the trash and get Westy signed
yes
friggin wip has been out all day for me and its burnin me up
Yeah, what's up with WIP on the net? I've been trying the last three hours to get in :boom
I find it hard to believe that Jaws wouldn't share this scoop with his main employer, ESPN. ESPNEWS just did a live "update" on the Owens situation, and there was no mention of this. Hmmmm.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 04:08:42 PM
on the Giants board they are saying Jaws is on WFAN and he said that the Eagles are looking into suspending him for the whole year.
That makes sense - especially if they want to suspend without pay, they want to make sure everything is kosher with the NFLPA.
We have to believe that TO got an ultimatum earlier this year, and he just blew it. ESPN makes a good point (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2213944) that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 04, 2005, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:01:23 PM
A quick PR job would be to stuff TO in the trash and get Westy signed
yes
friggin wip has been out all day for me and its burnin me up
Yeah, what's up with WIP on the net? I've been trying the last three hours to get in :boom
Its for the good of society.
andy better grow a set and do the right thing
I don't think the Eagles forced him to apologize. Either Rosenhaus or his PR bitch realized he was going to be in some deep shtein, and they wrote him a statement to read in an attempt to stop the ugly train in its tracks.
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology.
interesting point.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 04, 2005, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:01:23 PM
A quick PR job would be to stuff TO in the trash and get Westy signed
yes
friggin wip has been out all day for me and its burnin me up
Yeah, what's up with WIP on the net? I've been trying the last three hours to get in :boom
Its for the good of society.
good point!
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology.
interesting point.
Again, I don't think the Eagles organization made him do anything... yet.
that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology
thats why i asked earlier what the hell were they thinking giving him a microphone
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:16:40 PM
that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology
thats why i asked earlier what the hell were they thinking giving him a microphone
He would have gotten a microphone by now one way or another.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 04, 2005, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on November 04, 2005, 04:11:15 PM
that they might have blown their chance by allowing/forcing him to make an apology.
interesting point.
Again, I don't think the Eagles organization made him do anything... yet.
It just doesn't come across as TO damage control - the language is all wrong. No contrition, no remorse...just stating the facts.
He would have gotten a microphone by now one way or another
of course...but no way am i letting him use the nova care facilities to put on some kind of impromptu statement
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:19:23 PM
He would have gotten a microphone by now one way or another
of course...but no way am i letting him use the nova care facilities to put on some kind of impromptu statement
That's smart. Then, T.O. can not only apologize elsewhere easily, but say that he tried to apologize in the NovaCare facility, but the Eagles wouldn't let him. That would be even worse if they're trying to "build a case" against him with the NFLPA to go for a season-long suspension.
Think, people. THINK.
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
hes a better man than me
As are most.
And sorry, any Raider fan who worships Randy Moss and Warren Sapp has no right coming on here and talking any shtein. But hey, I get it...you defend away.
Now why is it that I am talking shtein? I just came to see how you fans withyour blinders on are taking the latest, but certainly not last, outburst from TO
So says the tard with blinders
WOW Such a show of intelligence
If his 'apology' in any way keeps them from suspending him I am going to be farging pissed off.
That's smart. Then, T.O. can not only apologize elsewhere easily, but say that he tried to apologize in the NovaCare facility, but the Eagles wouldn't let him. That would be even worse if they're trying to "build a case" against him with the NFLPA to go for a season-long suspension.
Think, people. THINK.
are you serious???
nflpa: you guys are in big trouble now..we heard you wouldnt let TO speak the other day
eagles: no way in hell are we giving that lunatic any air time in OUR facility after hes verbally assasinated OUR organization for the past six months
nflpa: ummm ok....suspend a way
If the Eagles don't let him apologize on their stage, then the NFLPA will say that they had it out for T.O. and were looking for an excuse to suspend him. Remember that the NFLPA is on the PLAYER'S side, not the team's.
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
WOW Such a show of intelligence
:-D Being the guy that jumped into 16 pages of TO-hatred by stating that we all have "blinders", gives you absolutely no basis to question anyone else's intelligence.
If the Eagles don't let him apologize on their stage, then the NFLPA will say that they had it out for T.O. and were looking for an excuse to suspend him. Remember that the NFLPA is on the PLAYER'S side, not the team's.
there isnt a reason on earth that can prevent the nflpa from stopping TO from being suspended right now...and if there were not letting him apologize on the nova care complex podium wouldnt be in the top 1000
keyshawn got aced for a whole lot less than what TO has done
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
WOW Such a show of intelligence
Wow, why are you here again? Didn't the Eagles already dispose of your team this year?
Shoo.
F the NFLPA. Sometimes you have to stand up to a union. Anyone think the rest of the team will strike if we ignore the union?
Quote from: stillupfront on November 04, 2005, 04:36:03 PM
F the NFLPA. Sometimes you have to stand up to a union. Anyone think the rest of the team will strike if we ignore the union?
Ask Septa.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:36:31 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on November 04, 2005, 04:36:03 PM
F the NFLPA. Sometimes you have to stand up to a union. Anyone think the rest of the team will strike if we ignore the union?
Ask Septa.
Ask them what? Do you see DMac walking the line for TO Sunday night?
LOL...I meant ask Septa workers how they'd feel...considering they are currently on strike making city traffic OODLES and OODLES of fun to drive in! :crazy
suburbs :yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:35:16 PM
If the Eagles don't let him apologize on their stage, then the NFLPA will say that they had it out for T.O. and were looking for an excuse to suspend him. Remember that the NFLPA is on the PLAYER'S side, not the team's.
there isnt a reason on earth that can prevent the nflpa from stopping TO from being suspended right now...and if there were not letting him apologize on the nova care complex podium wouldnt be in the top 1000
keyshawn got aced for a whole lot less than what TO has done
Keyshawn was benched
with pay. The Eagles could do that easily. They'd rather bench him without pay, I'd bet.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
LOL...I meant ask Septa workers how they'd feel...considering they are currently on strike making city traffic OODLES and OODLES of fun to drive in! :crazy
Now that makes sense. As an aside, I have a meeting in CC Monday. How much extra time do I need.
Quote from: stillupfront on November 04, 2005, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
LOL...I meant ask Septa workers how they'd feel...considering they are currently on strike making city traffic OODLES and OODLES of fun to drive in! :crazy
Now that makes sense. As an aside, I have a meeting in CC Monday. How much extra time do I need.
You driving in or taking Amrak? If you take Amtrak, you'll get a cab right there and they'll get you where you need.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 04:35:16 PM
If the Eagles don't let him apologize on their stage, then the NFLPA will say that they had it out for T.O. and were looking for an excuse to suspend him. Remember that the NFLPA is on the PLAYER'S side, not the team's.
there isnt a reason on earth that can prevent the nflpa from stopping TO from being suspended right now...and if there were not letting him apologize on the nova care complex podium wouldnt be in the top 1000
keyshawn got aced for a whole lot less than what TO has done
I'm no labor expert but I'd have to think that his apology is inconsequential. He was already served formal notice that if his actions proved detrimental to the team, he could face disciplinary action, leading up to suspension. While I can't see his recent actions being anything but detrimental, I imagine they could be up to interpretation.
In the few times I read the CBA, I don't recollect anything about an apology forestalling any disciplinary action.
TO's apology was classic. He made little subtle face expressions when he did it, that just made it ooze sarcasm.
TO is out of control.
I hope to god that we've seen the last of his dumb ass. Gives me wood just thinking about a TO-less team.
Quote from: stillupfront on November 04, 2005, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
LOL...I meant ask Septa workers how they'd feel...considering they are currently on strike making city traffic OODLES and OODLES of fun to drive in! :crazy
Now that makes sense. As an aside, I have a meeting in CC Monday. How much extra time do I need.
Where are you coming from/going to specifically?
Regional Rail is easy coming in but if you're going back at peak times, get to the station early.
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
Hey, maybe all you Romes could take the commuter advice discussion elsewhere?
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:46:33 PM
Quote from: stillupfront on November 04, 2005, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:40:07 PM
LOL...I meant ask Septa workers how they'd feel...considering they are currently on strike making city traffic OODLES and OODLES of fun to drive in! :crazy
Now that makes sense. As an aside, I have a meeting in CC Monday. How much extra time do I need.
Where are you coming from/going to specifically?
The Jersey Shore. I usually drive in when I make the trip. Just wondering how farged up traffic will be.
Regional Rail is easy coming in but if you're going back at peak times, get to the station early.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PMDo you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
What? Is that English? You're making as much sense as
Chuggie.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PM
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
I think it made him paranoid of signing delusional narcissists that are having a hard time coming to grips with their sexuality.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 04, 2005, 04:48:25 PM
Hey, maybe all you Romes could take the commuter advice discussion elsewhere?
No, the Public Transportation forum is locked.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PM
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
Dude. For the love of christ stop asking this farging question. The answer is completely farging obvious to anyone with half a brain cell. TO is the problem. Not the fact that he's a number one receiver. Are you farging retarded?
The weekly Miami radio show is in 10 minutes. Fun...
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PM
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
I think it made him paranoid of signing delusional narcissists that are having a hard time coming to grips with their sexuality.
Exactly
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PM
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
Dude. For the love of christ stop asking this farging question. The answer is completely farging obvious to anyone with half a brain cell. TO is the problem. Not the fact that he's a number one receiver. Are you farging retarded?
Nevermind, you misunderstood the question. I've never asked that one before by the way.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:52:30 PM
Nevermind, you misunderstood the question. I've never asked that one before by the way.
I'm not going to pull a MURP and dig up all of the times you've asked us if we think this will discourage Reid from getting a number one receiver in the future, but you've asked it plenty in the past 24 hours.
If anything this experience will convince Reid that he NEEDS a number one receiver. The offense was finally exactly what he envisioned last year. He just knows now that a dipshtein cancerfarg like TO is not going to work with this team. There are plenty of #1 receivers who aren't utter assfargs. Stop.
TO is starting to infect message boards all over. He's infecting the entire city.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 04:54:50 PM
There are plenty of #1 receivers who aren't utter assfargs.
Marvin Harrison and.....
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:52:30 PM
Nevermind, you misunderstood the question. I've never asked that one before by the way.
I'm not going to pull a MURP
my search rates are half price on fridays after 4:50 pm.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 04:54:50 PM
There are plenty of #1 receivers who aren't utter assfargs.
Marvin Harrison and.....
OH really?
Harrison is FAR from an angel. He's actually one of the bigger iceholes at WR.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:56:02 PM
TO is starting to infect message boards all over. He's infecting the entire city.
I wish he'd infect you. With ass herpes. On your face.
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 04:47:23 PM
Do you people think TO made Andy paranoid about ever getting another star WR again, or do you think TO is his own and it has nothing to do with future acquisitions?
I think it made him paranoid of signing delusional narcissists that are having a hard time coming to grips with their sexuality.
(http://www.van46.com/photos/chris_tucker_1a.jpg)
:paranoid
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 04:54:50 PM
There are plenty of #1 receivers who aren't utter assfargs.
Marvin Harrison and.....
OH really?
Harrison is FAR from an angel. He's actually one of the bigger iceholes at WR.
oh yeah, i must have missed all those Marvin harrison quotes on ESPN, and I must have missed all those times he yelled at coaches on the sidelines
Nah, but apparently you missed the fact that he likes to physcially attack autograph seekers.
And yes, he has bitched to the media on a FEW occasions about not getting the ball enough.
and I am NOT saying he's on the level of TO or Moss...but don't make him out to be faultless...the guy is FAR from it.
i would put Chad Johnson in assfag category....
i say Marvin Harrison isn't because you never see him do the things that Moss, Owens, Johnson do. you never see the dumb celebrations like Joe Horn.
but PG knows more than I do about Marvin Harrison, he's apparantly a real icehole.
Chad Johnson, is weird and probably imbalanced, but he's not a cancer like TO.
Javon Walker held out and wanted a new contract, but he reported and wanted to play and would be a great #1.
Harrison doesn't tear his team or teammates apart when they lose in the playoffs every year.
The list of number 1 receivers that I would rather have is pretty farging long and the only name I would likely leave off is Moss. And honestly, at this point, I would rather have (a healthy) Moss than any form of TO.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
and I am NOT saying he's on the level of TO or Moss...but don't make him out to be faultless...the guy is FAR from it.
ok, let's agree that as far as #1 receivers go, he's probably the best behaved of the bunch. of the superstar #1's anyway.
my original point of only posting his name is that almost all #1 recievers are assRomes.
well, it's after 5. are they going to suspend him or what................
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 05:03:20 PM
well, it's after 5. are they going to suspend him or what................
Yo, seriously.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 04, 2005, 05:02:51 PMalmost all #1 recievers are assRomes.
Especially Terry Glenn
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 05:03:20 PM
well, it's after 5. are they going to suspend him or what................
I'm not hanging out after work like
hench did. or was that
bobby. whatever. one of the limey bastich losers who slums here.
He called into his radio show as "Javier", saying he's in the witness protection program now. :sly
He says he's sorry he did the interview...
lol, what the hell are you talking about.
He says it's ESPN's fault. ::)
He says McNabb hasn't talked to him since the interview, but Dawk approached him.... :evil
Says Dawk was pissed off until TO showed him the full transcript of the ESPN interview, then Dawk wasn't mad anymore. He's claiming that ESPN is out to destroy the Eagles and spun the interview a certain way, says the media is pitting him vs Donovan... :sly
TO said ESPN took bits and pieces of the interview to make him look bad. It was taken out of context.
See? We all love TO again.
Show's over.
(Get Tory Holt)
Says he respects Dawk
Says Andy wanted him to issue an apology....."I had no problem with that"
"Do you expect to get suspended?"
"If I am, it would be a sad situation and they will do the best they can to win the game and I will be behind them 100% .... If I am, I am..."
Dump TO and bring Thrash back
:-D
TO ripped Sean Salisbury. He always randomly brings up people that slight him and rips them in random interviews.
Sean Salisbury is a bigger douche that TO. And you thought it wasnt possible. ha.
Regrets the timing of the interview and how the media portrayed it....says he knew the interviewer from his SF days....claims he didn't know the interview was shown on ESPN until he got to NovaCare today....
Quote from: MURP on November 04, 2005, 05:18:25 PM
Sean Salisbury is a bigger douche that TO. And you thought it wasnt possible. ha.
And Merrill Hoge tops them all. Dare you believe?
Guys. Seriously. The circus has closed. Move along. Go outside. Show's over, dude.
Oh man, if I could mace Hoge and TO at the same time I would be a happy man. And I'm not talking about that pansy-ass aerosol can mace, I'm talking about a lead spiked ball and chain to the dome. Word.
Says if he's cleared to play, he will.....he's close to 100%, but MRI showed a little swelling....
Says the only person that can shut him down is "in his prime" Deion... (forgetting about DeAngelo Hall, apparently ::) )
TO does have one thing going for him right now personality-wise. TO has a good way of making people forgive him, because he just has that calm, soothing, reassuring tone in his voice. On top of that he has one of those winning smiles that brights up a room.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 04, 2005, 05:21:13 PM
Oh man, if I could mace Hoge and TO at the same time I would be a happy man. And I'm not talking about that pansy-ass aerosol can mace, I'm talking about a lead spiked ball and chain to the dome. Word.
:yay;D :D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :yay :yay
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 05:21:48 PM
TO does have one thing going for him right now personality-wise. TO has a good way of making people forgive him, because he just has that calm, soothing, reassuring tone in his voice. On top of that he has one of those winning smiles that brights up a room.
You're a fag.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 05:21:13 PM
Says the only person that can shut him down is "in his prime" Deion... (forgetting about DeAngelo Hall, apparently ::) )
As much as I hate TO right now, Hall was holding and pulling PIs all day long on him to shut him down. It was the only way he could, and he got away with it. Or did you forget those?
On McNabb's INT vs Denver when driving for the tie: "We made a turnover. We cant do that as an offensive unit."
Javier has left the building.
That last quote did it.
I'm logging in to NFL.com right now to order my TO jersey.
You all are so fast to try, judge, and execute without hearing both sides.
What a douche.
Douche-hater.
TO had 7 catches for 112 yards against Hall. Which would equate to 112 catches and 1792 yards over a season. ha.
It's settled. I'm wearing my T.O. jersey to dinner tonight.
If by "wearing to dinner", I mean leaving it in my drawer under my Freddie, Simon, and Duce jerserys.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 05:21:48 PM
TO does have one thing going for him right now personality-wise. TO has a good way of making people forgive him, because he just has that calm, soothing, reassuring tone in his voice. On top of that he has one of those winning smiles that brights up a room.
Sounds like you can shed a little light on this subject http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=17022.0
u fag
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Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 05:21:48 PM
TO does have one thing going for him right now personality-wise. TO has a good way of making people forgive him, because he just has that calm, soothing, reassuring tone in his voice. On top of that he has one of those winning smiles that brights up a room.
That post just made me want to vomit.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 05:21:48 PM
TO does have one thing going for him right now personality-wise. TO has a good way of making people forgive him, because he just has that calm, soothing, reassuring tone in his voice. On top of that he has one of those winning smiles that brights up a room.
That post just made me want to vomit.
You're lucky it only made you
want to. I have quite a mess to clean up here. The dogs are helping.
FWIW, Hollis on DNL said hearing T.O.'s soundbites made him want to "sock him in the chops".
I'm sure he heard the out-of-context version. That makes for better TV. I'm dying to get my hand on this "complete transcript" that completely vindicates T.O., though. I'll believe it when I see it.
I haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone else suggested that Andy maybe do to TO what Gruden did to MeShawn a few years back?
If we're gonna suck -- so be it -- but I'd rather suck with some dignity than have this moron kick us while we're down.
A few things: (from Daily News Dead)
The apology was issued by TO's publicist or someone in the TO camp, not the Eagles. The Eagles demanded he make one, but it was written by the TO camp.
TO did not read a very large part of the apology that apologized to McNabb.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Nah, but apparently you missed the fact that he likes to physcially attack autograph seekers.
the money grubbing ebay whores deserve it.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Nah, but apparently you missed the fact that he likes to physcially attack autograph seekers.
the money grubbing ebay whores deserve it.
They were kids.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Nah, but apparently you missed the fact that he likes to physcially attack autograph seekers.
the money grubbing ebay whores deserve it.
They were kids.
the money grubbing ebay whoring kids deserve it.
Chris Mortensen was on 790 to discuss the ESPN/TO thing and he defended TO after reading the full transcript, saying ESPN took it out of context on purpose.... :sly
Mortonson will be canned. How dare he expose the money-grubbing yellow journalism of his employers.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 04, 2005, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Nah, but apparently you missed the fact that he likes to physcially attack autograph seekers.
the money grubbing ebay whores deserve it.
They were kids.
You must be the only person that actually believed that story.
I know he was sued, but did Honolulu police ever charge Harrison? Or the other two people? I mean after all he just attacked these poor kids, right? Allegedly put one in a choke hold? Of course, he's never done anything like this, and it's completely out of character for him, but that doesn't matter.
::) ::)
If I remember the kids had lots of emotional di$tre$$
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 06:25:24 PM
Chris Mortensen was on 790 to discuss the ESPN/TO thing and he defended TO after reading the full transcript, saying ESPN took it out of context on purpose.... :sly
Wow. What a crazy day!
I woke up to hear TO's radio show and see the apology on DNL.
Now I hear that ESPN purposely edited the whole thing to mak eit controversial?!?!?!?
If this is true, and I don't think Mort would be putting his neck out there like that, then I think that TO is right that the media is out to get him.
I want to see the full transcript though. And if ESPN catches heat, I hope they do, then I'd like to see them do a retraction and apologize publicly.
The dude doing the interview was that 18 year old kid. I remember seeing him on Real Sports about 4 years ago and he's a taterskins fan.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 06:25:24 PM
Chris Mortensen was on 790 to discuss the ESPN/TO thing and he defended TO after reading the full transcript, saying ESPN took it out of context on purpose.... :sly
Wow. What a crazy day!
I woke up to hear TO's radio show and see the apology on DNL.
Now I hear that ESPN purposely edited the whole thing to mak eit controversial?!?!?!?
If this is true, and I don't think Mort would be putting his neck out there like that, then I think that TO is right that the media is out to get him.
I want to see the full transcript though. And if ESPN catches heat, I hope they do, then I'd like to see them do a retraction and apologize publicly.
The dude doing the interview was that 18 year old kid. I remember seeing him on Real Sports about 4 years ago and he's a taterskins fan.
burn him
Yeah, I'd burn him. Him & Art burning together would be a sweet way to kick off the weekend.
Seriously though...
1. I like how Dawk confronted TO
2. I like how Dawk realized, after reading the interview transcript, recognized that they took it out of context.
3. I liked what TO said on his show
4. What Mort said should NOT be glossed over. He put ESPN out there in a bad spot.
If Dawkins can realize that it wasn't a huge deal, then I hope some of you guys can. Like I said this morning, I had a beef with the Favre comments. But since this news came out now about ESPN editing it, I want to see what really was said and how it went down.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 04, 2005, 02:24:22 PM
the NFLPA wont do anything, they have no power to
not only that but other than pg...michael irvin and phreak i dont think there is anyone on the planet who would want their name attached to defending TO
I just think this team is much better with him than without him, bro. And I am not writing the season off after 7 games so I think in order to win, they need 81 out there in order to do so.
burn to. start wilbur.
I wanted TO gone--whether by cut or suspension, I really don't care--long before today's melodrama, and my position hasn't changed because of it. He needs to be off the team, out of Eagles green, as soon as farging possible.
Here's some of the interview transcript from last night (it says this was edited too before the Q&A starts (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=to/unplugged)
Some bits and pieces:
QuoteGB: Enjoying the season?
TO: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, our record (4-3) really doesn't indicate the caliber (of) team that we are. But, we're maybe just a few plays here and there from really being like 6-1, something like that. But, you know, we really got our butts whooped down in Dallas. So, I think that's the only real whooping that we took. So, at this stage, we're 4-3, about to go into (a stretch of) divisional play -- the taterskins, the Giants and the Cowboys. We've got those guys coming up, so we're still in the hunt.
QuoteGB: If the Eagles win and you don't rack up the numbers statistically, are you satisfied?
TO: Yeah, I mean, that's the name of the game. Honestly, it's wins and losses when it all boils down to it. And, that's how I look at it. I always said that, even when I was in San Francisco. I just said as long as we're winning, I don't have a problem with it. But if we're not winning and I'm not getting the ball enough, that's when I have a problem. Because it doesn't matter statistically. I feel like with me being a big part of any offense, then the numbers are going to come. ... I think at some point during the course of the game, I will have an impact -- whether it's blocking or whether it's catching the football.
QuoteGB: What do you need from your team, or your teammates, to enable you to achieve success?
TO: Well, obviously, in my situation the quarterback is a big part of my success. I think it goes hand-in-hand. Obviously, a quarterback that has the weapons like Donovan has with this team -- with me, LJ (Smith) and Brian Westbrook -- obviously that helps him to be a better quarterback. ...
QuoteGB: What's your relationship like with your teammates?
TO: We have fun. Every day, it's interesting. ... (In the training room), we have a lot of fun doing just different games in there. Even with rehab, there are a lot of games that we play that are competitive, but it coincides with our rehab. And (it's) the same with a lot of guys on the team. We have a lot of guys sitting back in the lounge that play Halo. Me and (Greg) Lewis and Hank Fraley, we play dominos. So, a lot of guys do different things.
QuoteGB: What do you make of the Eagles' 4-3 start this season?
TO: I think a lot of the injuries have played a big part in some of our losses. I just feel that if Donovan wasn't hurt as he was, our record probably would indicate we were better.
GB: Donovan has obviously had trouble throwing, especially deep. He didn't complete any of his first 12 passes vs. Denver. How has that affected the team?
TO: Well, obviously I think our wins and losses are really predicated on how he plays. I just feel like, you know, everybody can point fingers at our defense, but it doesn't matter. Even when we were 28 (points) down, I still had in the back of my mind that we could come back -- had our offense gotten in sync. I just honestly feel with playmakers like myself, LJ (Smith), and obviously Brian Westbrook, that we could have gotten back in the game. And that we did. You know, like I said, it's hard to win ballgames when you have turnovers, and we had a turnover right when we were about to go into probably tie the game. That killed our momentum, and it killed our drive.
QuoteGB: How do you feel about your relationship with Philadelphia fans?
TO: I love the Philly fans. I know I've lost some, but I think there are a lot of fans out there who understand where I'm coming from and they enjoy what I do on the football field.
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
WOW Such a show of intelligence
:-D Being the guy that jumped into 16 pages of TO-hatred by stating that we all have "blinders", gives you absolutely no basis to question anyone else's intelligence.
Well bright one... Why don't you qoute me where I say that you "all" have blinders. My basis for questioning ones lack of intelligence starts with you for both your idiotic statements I have responded to. ;)
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
WOW Such a show of intelligence
:-D Being the guy that jumped into 16 pages of TO-hatred by stating that we all have "blinders", gives you absolutely no basis to question anyone else's intelligence.
Well bright one... Why don't you qoute me where I say that you "all" have blinders. My basis for questioning ones lack of intelligence starts with you for both your idiotic statements I have responded to. ;)
Let me look up what "qoute" means & I'll get back to you. Just cut your losses & silently slink away like the rest of your fans.
You've embarassed yourself enough & are only making it worse.
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 04, 2005, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
WOW Such a show of intelligence
:-D Being the guy that jumped into 16 pages of TO-hatred by stating that we all have "blinders", gives you absolutely no basis to question anyone else's intelligence.
Well bright one... Why don't you qoute me where I say that you "all" have blinders. My basis for questioning ones lack of intelligence starts with you for both your idiotic statements I have responded to. ;)
Let me look up what "qoute" means & I'll get back to you. Just cut your losses & silently slink away like the rest of your fans.
You've embarassed yourself enough & are only making it worse.
LOL! embarassed myself enough because I didn't proof read my post? Making what worse? TO has made it bad enough for your fans.
Please tell me you are an exception to the rule on this board. I had gained alot of respect the week after the game with the Raiders.
Quote from: TO is GOD on November 04, 2005, 12:19:04 AM
The funny thing is, I think half the team agrees with TO now. It's just that TO is the only one with the balls to say it. Good for TO. I'm tired of players backing down to the Eagles. TO doesn't back down.
Monkeyboy...Here is some of your 16 pages of TO hatred
You idiot, that guy doesn't count.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 06:25:24 PM
Chris Mortensen was on 790 to discuss the ESPN/TO thing and he defended TO after reading the full transcript, saying ESPN took it out of context on purpose.... :sly
is this for real?
has ed ever lied?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 04, 2005, 09:20:04 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 04, 2005, 06:25:24 PM
Chris Mortensen was on 790 to discuss the ESPN/TO thing and he defended TO after reading the full transcript, saying ESPN took it out of context on purpose.... :sly
is this for real?
I saw that someone said Mort was on 680 in Atlanta saying the same thing too....
Well, ESPN has a whole bash fest for TO on their front page...so I am wondering why their "superman" Mortensen is not on there saying this as well?
Mort looking for a job elsewhere? Got a book to plug? Billionare uncle died and left his estate to Mort?
is there any relation to mort and spads both pulling the anti-bosses routine on the same day? Um....
oh yeah...it only sounded bad because of editing...TO is a hero again.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
Uh excuse me, you are our little Byatch. You have nothing to stop us, like an 8 month old little baby girl. The only thing that would stop Mexico from running over your sorry butt is us., and we protect you from big bad russia too. Your freedoms are from us, and our protection and status as the strongest country on Earth. Let me know when your in our country next time for an operation and I'll stop by and say hello.
Can I ask you what the farg you are protecting us from? Last I checked we didn't have any major enemies in the world? Russia is going to invade us why? Our Vodka recipes?
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 04, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
Uh excuse me, you are our little Byatch. You have nothing to stop us, like an 8 month old little baby girl. The only thing that would stop Mexico from running over your sorry butt is us., and we protect you from big bad russia too. Your freedoms are from us, and our protection and status as the strongest country on Earth. Let me know when your in our country next time for an operation and I'll stop by and say hello.
Can I ask you what the farg you are protecting us from? Last I checked we didn't have any major enemies in the world? Russia is going to invade us why? Our Vodka recipes?
Canadian Bacon.
Quote from: CanuckBroncofan on November 04, 2005, 10:38:12 PMRussia is going to invade us why? Our Vodka recipes?
Certainly not for your whisky recipes. Now go away.
23 pages of this horseshtein.
You people are pathetic.
:-D
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 08:47:08 PM
LOL! embarassed myself enough because I didn't proof read my post? Making what worse? TO has made it bad enough for your fans.
Please tell me you are an exception to the rule on this board. I had gained alot of respect the week after the game with the Raiders.
:-D No, not because of proofreading. It's because you spent part of your Friday evening sorting through 16 pages of Eagles talk to find the one opinion on TO that we value the least, in order to justify your original nonhumorous post.
Ooh, cool...You have message board respect. :o Did our admin send you a cool leather jacket? CF should issue message board respect points so we know what retards not to agitate.
Quote from: Beermonkey on November 05, 2005, 12:01:16 AM
Quote from: varayder on November 04, 2005, 08:47:08 PM
LOL! embarassed myself enough because I didn't proof read my post? Making what worse? TO has made it bad enough for your fans.
Please tell me you are an exception to the rule on this board. I had gained alot of respect the week after the game with the Raiders.
:-D No, not because of proofreading. It's because you spent part of your Friday evening sorting through 16 pages of Eagles talk to find the one opinion on TO that we value the least, in order to justify your original nonhumorous post.
Ooh, cool...You have message board respect. :o Did our admin send you a cool leather jacket? CF should issue message board respect points so we know what retards not to agitate.
So says a turdburglaring drunk monkey
can someone post the edited part where TO didnt rip the organization for the 100 td catch celebrations that wasnt
please also post the part where it was edited to make it look like TO said that the eagles would be 7-0 with farve because of the way he is knowledgeable about the qb position and a warrior they would be in a better position
i know it was a while back but while youre at it post the edited interview where TO said he wouldnt talk to any press this year...
or the start of yesterdays interview where he said he doesnt talk to the press this year cause they edit and twist his words yet then proceeds to give a 20 minute interview
where espn is possibly at fault is that they primarily played only the negative parts of the interview...but thats what makes news...but to say TO didnt say any of this stuff is as ridiculous as his phony apology
He mixed it in with a lot of other good "team player" stuff.
What if I told you McNabb was going to throw 2 INT's Sunday night... would you be happy?
What if I then told you he was going to throw 7 TD's? That's more like it, right?
T.O. said some stupid shtein. No doubt.
But looking at other pieces of the interview, you can't justify suspending him (especially without pay) for it.
Kind of sort of "full" transcript (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=to/unplugged)
One thing is obvious: Graham Bensinger is smarter than T.O. (I know, that's not saying much). He totally tricked him into answering pretty much every possible controversial question.
For his non-stop behavior, I'd suspend him for the season, without pay. For all the shtein going back to the spring. As has been said numerous times before, he's destroying team unity, and he can't be bigger than the team. When a dog gets out of control, you grab it by the neck, shove its head to the floor and firmly say, "NO!". This dog is getting out of control, and needs his choke collar on.
^^^^^
exactly
is this what it comes to with this guy...breaking down the transcript line by line to see if he should be suspended or not...this is way bigger than thursdays interview...the guy has for 6 months shtein all over your qb and organization but now we are trying to pick out the positive parts of a individual interview so we can say its not worthy of suspension
TO is smarter than you think and he says exactly what he wants to say...which is why he takes shots at donovan and the front office and mixes that in with 'positive' comments...its why he gives a joke of an apology in the nova care complex almost literally laughing and saying farg off eagles...and then goes on lebatards show and acts all contrite...in the immortal words of lauren hill TO is playing andy like a game of chess right now and its really pathetic...to the point where i almost feel sorry for him...and im a self admitted andy 'hater'
Andy isn't getting played, IGY. He has no choice but to play T.O. right now. Whether or not he's a pain in the ass is irrelevent at this point. The other 52 guys on the team might hate his farging guts, but they all know they are a better team right now with him on the field.
I wish it wasn't so and I have to believe Andy feels the same way, but the fact is, the Eagles are better with T.O., so he tolerates this nonsense and moves on.
Make no mistake about it, though. T.O. is done after this season. The Eagles will have the opportunity to address the wideout position and a change will be made then. You can bet your last nickel on that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 08:34:54 AM
TO is smarter than you think
I don't think he's smart at all. Matter of fact, I think he'd dumb as a friggen' rock. If he was smart he'd STFU and play, 'cause his ability and stats would make Andy look like the bad guy if he didn't pay him after the season.
If he was smart, he wouldn't have hired that dumbass agent who screwed up his paperwork and made a mess of his free agency. If he was smart he never would have signed his current contract in the first place after
Andy told him it was a bad contract!! If he was smart, he wouldn't be manipulated in an interview to sound like an ignorant icehole.
Everytime he opens his mouth the media jump all over everything he says, sticking it to the Eagles every chance those fargers get.
You guys should really check out Spadaro's forum on the EMB.
Good God, he is ripping T.O. a new a-hole in just about every thread now.
Something's gonna break here soon. No way does he rip him like this if not. No way.
:-D
intelligence and narcissism are two different things....and i think hes both
Andy isn't getting played, IGY. He has no choice but to play T.O. right now. Whether or not he's a pain in the ass is irrelevent at this point. The other 52 guys on the team might hate his farging guts, but they all know they are a better team right now with him on the field.
I wish it wasn't so and I have to believe Andy feels the same way, but the fact is, the Eagles are better with T.O., so he tolerates this nonsense and moves on.
TO has been a difference maker in exactly one game this year...kansas city
they are 4-3 with him...they arent going anywhere with mcnabbs hernia anyway so where exactly is TO going to get them...9-7 instead of 8-8??...gimme a break...at some point you have to have some self respect and pride in your yourself and your organization and right now the eagles are showing to have none...TO owns this team right now and everything that surrounds it and is making everyone else look silly especially donovan who is getting zero support from anyone...tho i will say he needs to stand up for himself and show some anger indignation fury ect...but donovan is another thread
whether you believe andy is right or not many players already have lost respect for him with the way he deals with contract situations...what are they thinking now watching this supposed no nonsense take no shtein coach get freight trained by a superstar player...i can guarantee you this would not be going on in dallas or new england right now...and im sick and tired of seeing my team go out like a bunch of bitches and being the laughing stock of the league...enough is enough...
You guys should really check out Spadaro's forum on the EMB
i would if i could
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2005, 09:58:28 AM
intelligence and narcissism are two different things....and i think hes both
TO owns this team right now and everything that surrounds it and is making everyone else look silly especially donovan who is getting zero support from anyone...tho i will say he needs to stand up for himself and show some anger indignation fury ect...but donovan is another thread
TO own nothing but the media, he owns nothing on this team or he would've gotten his contract.
I heard Dmac getting plenty of support on ESPN radio, namely Dan Patrick on his show. He disagreed with TO and Irving, saying TO's comments about Favre playing hurt, and what he brings to the qb position sounded like he was describing McNabb. I've heard no one agreeing with Irving besides TO.
And you say he needs to stand up for himself? How do you know he's not already done it? What does he need to do, call a press conference and bash TO so you and everyone else can hear it with your own ears? Yeah, that would really make everything better.
Quote from: mhunt on November 04, 2005, 10:28:35 PM
oh yeah...it only sounded bad because of editing...TO is a hero again.
Ah, yes...there is no middle ground. You either think he's a hero and a God or he needs to be burned. ::)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: mhunt on November 04, 2005, 10:28:35 PM
oh yeah...it only sounded bad because of editing...TO is a hero again.
Ah, yes...there is no middle ground. You either think he's a hero and a God or he needs to be burned. ::)
A fan who is bi-polar in his view of players? :-D
I really don't give a rat's ass what he says, as long as we beat the friggen' taterskins.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 05, 2005, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: mhunt on November 04, 2005, 10:28:35 PM
oh yeah...it only sounded bad because of editing...TO is a hero again.
Ah, yes...there is no middle ground. You either think he's a hero and a God or he needs to be burned. ::)
actually, i think he's an a-hole...and here's what i think of his lame excuse about how the interview was edited, as if those words never came out of his mouth................. ::) ::)
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 05, 2005, 09:50:31 AM
You guys should really check out Spadaro's forum on the EMB.
Good God, he is ripping T.O. a new a-hole in just about every thread now.
Something's gonna break here soon. No way does he rip him like this if not. No way.
:-D
spadaro is the eagles' PR guy right? if so, TO flat out called him a liar about the 100th td thing. that's why spads is going off.
Spadaro is having a large case of PMS this month.
I find it quite funny.
Quote from: mhunt on November 05, 2005, 10:56:21 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 05, 2005, 09:50:31 AM
You guys should really check out Spadaro's forum on the EMB.
Good God, he is ripping T.O. a new a-hole in just about every thread now.
Something's gonna break here soon. No way does he rip him like this if not. No way.
:-D
spadaro is the eagles' PR guy right? if so, TO flat out called him a liar about the 100th td thing. that's why spads is going off.
Spads is not their PR guy, Derek Boyko is. Spads works for Tim McDermott under the Marketing & Communications Dept.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 04, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
Yeah, I'd burn him. Him & Art burning together would be a sweet way to kick off the weekend.
Seriously though...
1. I like how Dawk confronted TO
2. I like how Dawk realized, after reading the interview transcript, recognized that they took it out of context.
3. I liked what TO said on his show
4. What Mort said should NOT be glossed over. He put ESPN out there in a bad spot.
If Dawkins can realize that it wasn't a huge deal, then I hope some of you guys can. Like I said this morning, I had a beef with the Favre comments. But since this news came out now about ESPN editing it, I want to see what really was said and how it went down.
How you "like" it now?
You know what I like?
The Raiders losing again....in a completely PATHETIC fashion.
Eat shtein.
Why the farg are you here?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 05:31:10 PM
You know what I like?
The Raiders losing again....in a completely PATHETIC fashion.
Eat shtein.
Why the farg are you here?
To laugh at you!! :-D :-D :-D :-D
Laugh at what?
The eagles beat the raiders.
Raiders lost again today.
What else could you laugh at other than your zesty team?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 05:32:59 PM
Laugh at what?
The eagles beat the raiders.
Raiders lost again today.
What else could you laugh at other than your zesty team?
Two letters baby... can you guess what they are?
TO
Hey, if TO being suspended makes up for your team blowing ass, you've got issues. But whatever floats your boat. :-D
Quote from: varayder on November 06, 2005, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 05:31:10 PM
You know what I like?
The Raiders losing again....in a completely PATHETIC fashion.
Eat shtein.
Why the farg are you here?
To laugh at you!! :-D :-D :-D :-D
Dude, go check the standings before you laugh. Your team is pathetic. Your QB sucks and your WR's are potheads.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 06, 2005, 05:35:03 PM
Quote from: varayder on November 06, 2005, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 06, 2005, 05:31:10 PM
You know what I like?
The Raiders losing again....in a completely PATHETIC fashion.
Eat shtein.
Why the farg are you here?
To laugh at you!! :-D :-D :-D :-D
Dude, go check the standings before you laugh. Your team is pathetic. Your QB sucks and your WR's are potheads.
Are........????
I am Raiders fan not a Beagles fan :-D
Quit hijackin the thread icehole.
HA and HA. (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051106_OAK@KC)
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