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Title: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
Fill in the blank

Losses:
NL East champ:
Mikael Franco XBHs:
Amaro fire date:
Cole Hamels trade date:
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on April 05, 2015, 12:17:02 PM
109
Nats
32
None
July 25

Had to edit my win total. I figured those who have been negative were overblowing it a little but I just looked at the opening day roster.... All of this with arguably no important injuries... Holy shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2015, 12:50:37 PM
Losses: 174,776,598,771,394,659,403

NL East Champ: Who cares?

MFXBH: Minus gazillionty (plus or minus)

ROOB:  January 17th, 2063

Hamels: No, really... who cares?  When they trade him they've going to get royally farged up the ass because the buffoon in charge of trading him is less adept at trading than Jack was when he had his magic beans.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Rome has cracked open the bottle early today!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 05, 2015, 01:24:22 PM
Losses:  97
NL East champ:  Nats
Mikael Franco XBHs:  23
Amaro fire date:  Not soon enough:  Oct. 5 - day after the last game.
Cole Hamels trade date:  July 31.  Amaro will send $$$ and get back a low-end prospect in A-ball and declare himself the smartest man in the world.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2015, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Rome has cracked open the bottle early today!

I'm salty today.  No doubt about it.  But this assface starting a Phillies thread, when all he does is piss and moan about how much they suck day after day after day, is just disgusting.  It would be like IGY starting an "I Love Hair Metal" thread or rjs starting an "I Love People" thread.

No, sir... cannot have it for six months.  I'm trolling this shtein until someone deletes it or me.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
wait the person who starts threads is a thing

arent you an adult?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be

are you really going to brag if they win 65 instead of 55?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 05, 2015, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 05, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
Fill in the blank

Losses:
NL East champ: duh
Mikael Franco XBHs: zero
Amaro fire date: 1/16
Cole Hamels trade date: august
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 05, 2015, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 05, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
wait the person who starts threads is a thing

arent you an adult?

You know, it's entirely possible that if you submit a decent array of posts from this forum, you might be eligible for a refund from Temple for your bachelor's degree.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2015, 10:05:49 PM
i dont see what stupid message posts has to do with a grown man with a wife, children and important, valuable things complaining about who starts a thread on a message board about a terrible baseball team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 05, 2015, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.

double or nothing the 100

o/u 78.5

me: under
you: over
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 10:10:12 PM
Hmmmm let me think on it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 11:12:47 AM
After contemplating...no bet. I'll take the Sixers hundo and use it when I go to Vegas  ;D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 06, 2015, 03:08:10 PM
Play ball!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 06, 2015, 03:11:25 PM
It took two whole batters for the Phillies to start losing...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
Maybe I should be happy I didn't burn a day off to watch the game?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2015, 04:26:04 PM
Picking up bucholtz and starting him today was too easy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 04:35:05 PM
Hamels is being generous today. Good to see him upping that trade value.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 04:35:52 PM
Jesus Christ are they playing in a wind tunnel or is he just throwing up meatballs?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 06, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Definitely the winds fault for only blowing when the Red Sox  bat
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 06, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Over/under for Hamels' DL stint:  May 1
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 06, 2015, 03:08:10 PM
Play ball!

Please don't.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 04:35:05 PM
Hamels is being generous today. Good to see him upping that trade value.

Atta boy Smuggy, keep the guy and dangle him out there as long as you can.  Only suspense this season will be what kind of dog scrappings they get for Heidi.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
Buchholtz is just sick today.  Granted it's the worst lineup in baseball but he is throwing some sick stuff.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Pedroia is so farging good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Galvez is so farging bad.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
HA!  What a farging circus.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 06:17:54 PM
First time since 1998 they were shutout on opening day.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2015, 06:20:55 PM
straight garbage
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 06, 2015, 06:52:55 PM
I expect the other 161 to be similar. Only with worse Phillies starting pitching. Swell team, Rube.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 06, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
I hope they get slaughtered every game now.  That lineup was hideous and Hamels pitched like he had an early dinner date.

At least the draft is coming up in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 06, 2015, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 06:17:54 PM
First time since 1998 they were shutout on opening day.

Let's compare the starting lineups:











1998 Phils (75-87)   2015 Phils (Not enough - Too Much)
Doug Glanville, CF   Ben Revere, LF
Gregg Jefferies, 1B   Odubel Herrera, CF
Scott Rolen, 3B   Chase Utley, 2B
Mike Lieberthal, C   Ryan Howard, 1B
Rico Brogna, 1B   Carlos Ruiz, C
Mark Lewis, 2B    Grady Sizemore, RF
Bobby Abreu, RF   Cody Asche, 3B
Desi Relaford, SS   Freddy Galvis, SS
Curt Schilling, P    Cole Hamels, P

I think the 98 team beats the current scrubs four out of every seven.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 09:03:11 PM
Mark Lewis...forgot about him
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 06, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
Yep, Unfortunatey remember every player on that roster except Lewis.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 06, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
the phillies have 1.5 major leaguers right now

the 98 team had at least 3

plus the 98 team had schilling who would have smoked nikki h2h anytime they faced off
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 07, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 07, 2015, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 07, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
80

In the next two seasons... maybe.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 08, 2015, 02:31:22 PM
joe savery retired
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2015, 07:38:42 PM
galvis with the full face cover tonight

he still cant hit
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 08, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
Win #1 on their way to the world series

.500
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 08, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
1 down
79 to go
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:49 PM
Email me the MLB TV stuff!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 12:32:44 PM
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2015/04/three-more-reasons-why-jonathan-papelbon-is-awesome-and-or-a-huge-jerk.html

Quote"Gonna see some shtein explode this year, brother. farg off, Salisbury. Go back to your dick-sucking hole... farg... you're standing in my face."
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 09, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 12:32:44 PM
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2015/04/three-more-reasons-why-jonathan-papelbon-is-awesome-and-or-a-huge-jerk.html

Quote"Gonna see some shtein explode this year, brother. farg off, Salisbury. Go back to your dick-sucking hole... farg... you're standing in my face."

Still a huge jerk, but I don' t think saying the shtein he said to the Herald is bad either. If that's how he feels, I appreciate him admitting it instead of pretending that we don't already know. He's a piece of shtein for having the attitude, not for speaking the truth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 09, 2015, 03:56:24 PM
well maybe if one of his teammates showed him where to get good fried chicken for the clubhouse he'd feel like a phillie.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
QuoteAfter getting Hanley Ramirez to fly out a cold miserable night knocked down Hanley Ramirez's sure-fire, go-ahead grand slam to end the eighth inning, Papelbon gave the Red Sox dugout his trademarked crotch grab. Not tonight, boys

HA!  Get that clown out of here. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2015, 08:00:36 PM
david buchanan
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 09, 2015, 08:04:46 PM
The game was supposed to be on "regional coverage" on MLB.  Instead they have Padres/Giants.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2015, 08:21:29 PM
for some reason thats what they label their games....its very misleading

there is a main game (pads/giants) and a game that you get if you live in the home market of teams in the main game (phils/sox).
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 09, 2015, 08:24:33 PM
Right behind the Phillies dugout, probably on camera every time there's a lefty up to bat. Nice seats.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
Find Amaro and shtein on him

Give TMac the finger

Hold up a sign - you have time to make one - that says "lil guy luvs igy" and the number 80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 09, 2015, 08:58:17 PM
Maybe I missed it or just forgot but what's with the throwback caps
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why

so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 09, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why

so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right

That's pretty cool then and I agree do the whole uniform or don't do anything at all.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why

so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right

Not only that but if you do a throwback uni you have to have batting helmets and shoes match too

When the Phils do the baby blues and have the current batting helmets and cleats it's awful
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous.  I usually love throwback stuff.  These are awful.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:22:00 PM
HA!  Victorino's face on that last swing.  I miss that coconut head.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 09, 2015, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous.  I usually love throwback stuff.  These are awful.

I don't think they're that bad but matched up with their current uni's they look hideous
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:35:24 PM
exactly...they look ridiculous on the current uni's but would be amazing on the original johnsons
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.

I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie.  You?

Like J said,  show the TV booth the finger.  Matt Stairs useless dribble and T Mac's "This isn't over" shtein are quite annoying.  Matt Stairs got all worked up insisting that it was regular yellow tape on Papi's bat.  Ben Davis and Mac think it's tennis racket tape.  I know, riveting shtein.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: SD on April 09, 2015, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous.  I usually love throwback stuff.  These are awful.

I don't think they're that bad but matched up with their current uni's they look hideous

Agreed.  After I posted that they showed a shot of the hat on the field by itself and it wasn't half bad.  As IGY said, you're going to go throwback go all in.  Guess on a Wednesday night in horrible baseball weather and a 3/4 empty stadium didn't justify it.

farging Hawaiian! :boom
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 09, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.

I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie.  You?

That cat looks like Todd. I met Munson once...pretty sure that's not him. Are there people with yellow face masks on a few rows back or am I seeing shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
im black
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
Todd and Munson at a game together?!

Mattheau and Lemon?!

Dogs and cats?!

Mass hysteria
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2015, 10:05:06 PM
im not at the game....its too damn cold and this team sucks ass
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
i believe choke and GRIT are a combined 2-23 now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 09, 2015, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
i believe choke and GRIT are a combined 2-23 now

80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 11:37:03 PM
No...2-23 not 80.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 10, 2015, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 11:37:03 PM
No...2-23 not 80.

80 is probably the team's combined WAR.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-bA9FYB8HY
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 10, 2015, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.

I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie.  You?

Like J said,  show the TV booth the finger.  Matt Stairs useless dribble and T Mac's "This isn't over" shtein are quite annoying.  Matt Stairs got all worked up insisting that it was regular yellow tape on Papi's bat.  Ben Davis and Mac think it's tennis racket tape.  I know, riveting shtein.

haha nah I had an eagles poof ball black and old school green hat, coat, and black hoodie underneath.

(https://scontent-1.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11073546_871213246581_3859685005545593667_n.jpg?oh=6f76fe10f1ecba50e45bb9d7fc0f78f7&oe=55B0D9B7)

Really hope my buddy can get these tickets again this summer when the weather's nicer...awesome seats.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 10, 2015, 02:59:47 PM
 :yay
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
Wow!  Sweet.  Holy crap, the crowd or more like lack there of.  Know the weather sucked, week night, etc. but you'd think with BoSox in town it would draw more than that.  David Buchanan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 10, 2015, 05:41:54 PM
Yeah stadium was half full, if that, and I'd say at least 40% of the people there were Sox fans. A ton of loud cheers when Beogarts' hit dropped in.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 07:11:17 PM
that didn't take long......btwn jerome williams spring numbers and the putrid lineup rhino is running out there tonight this should be a drubbing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
my apologies to mr Williams.....send it in Jerome!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 07:59:12 PM
Bring it home for Jerome!

Btw nice AB, Grit
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 10, 2015, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 07:59:12 PM
Bring it home for Jerome!

No.   Just no.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 08:25:53 PM
lol I knew you'd enjoy that

Seeing a lead off double stranded on second makes me feel all nostalgic - I missed seeing that!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 08:31:42 PM
Can't even lay down a farging bunt.  No power + no small ball + no brains is always a recipe for disaster.  Geez, I was expecting so much more from this group.

Sizemore looks like Spaz out there fielding balls.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 10, 2015, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 07:59:12 PM
Bring it home for Jerome!

No.   Just no.

:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
A D V A N C E

farging tards.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 08:37:26 PM
Grit .077
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 08:39:31 PM
GRIT needs to be taken out back and shot
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 10, 2015, 08:43:23 PM
Seriously.  Put him out of his misery.

Yea, beautiful shot Murph & T Mac of a 3/4 empty stadium.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 08:48:11 PM
id rather have it empty than it be 60% red sox fans

holy shtein at the amount of mets fans when they come on a weekend in may
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
you cant hit em in then walk and hbp em in

by any means necessary
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 09:14:39 PM
Nice little rally there

Any bets that Papsmear blows it?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
I could care less about paps...I wanna see giles do something clean here...hes been scuffling hard
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 09:20:35 PM
so much for that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 10, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
giles velocity is so down....his fastball cant top 94-95
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 09:24:58 PM
Yeah he's still not full blast- kinda wish they would've let him chill for a week after that little back tweak he had or whatever

Nice to see that ho Harper go down looking
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 09:52:40 PM
Nice win. Real nice job by Papsmear too

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 10, 2015, 10:23:10 PM
Nattitude
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2015, 10:35:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 09:52:40 PM
Nice win. Real nice job by Papsmear too

nice! nice! it was nice!

78 to go
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 10:43:43 PM
Nice post.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2015, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 10:43:43 PM
Nice post.

80
79

78

78!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 10:45:37 PM
Count em down for me buddy!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 10, 2015, 10:51:22 PM
yo man cole going tomorrow....thats a win

then the mets...they aint good....then the nats again, pshhh.....then miami and atlanta at home PUHlease.

here we go lets do this!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 10:53:44 PM
Right on buddy!

Your boy Cesar done good tonight too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
Pete Mackanin is a dumb farg
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
Freddy Galvis is a dumber farg. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:03:35 PM
Utley is awful at the plate right now

That pitch he swung and missed on was a hanging spinner and he missed
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
Home Run Heidi

That's his new name

Keep it in the yard, clown
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 08:16:21 PM
Schmitty saying Grit will be all right and not to worry and he misses that perfect ball, more like late on it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
Jesus Grit, c'mon.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:30:50 PM
Nice sac bunts this evening, boys. Splendid execution

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
Helluva play by Blanco and Choke there. Nice dig.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Heidi get the farg out of there as fast as you can.  shtein demand a trade to the Alaska Single A league, just get out of there. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:27:14 PM
To bad Schmitty can't be the everyday color guy in the booth.  He calls and tells it like it is.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 11, 2015, 09:31:54 PM
Howard with a deep drive off the top of the left field wall, double that drives in Utley.

It's 2008 again! :crazy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:32:24 PM
farging choke dog.  He thought that mutha was out.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
Holy shtein!  2008 is right. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
Nats doing their best to challenge the bums for boneheads of the week.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:41:27 PM
horrible at bat Blanco.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Who the farg does Frenchy think he is?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 11, 2015, 10:05:47 PM
Come on, Hernandez...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 10:07:06 PM
They really are horrible.  Lead off double by grandpa and the three goons all k.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 10:08:39 PM
Agreed on Schmitty being good in the booth

And they should have hunted Revere (hi lil guy!) but bc he failed earlier Sandberg didn't keep it on

Then three straight k's

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 11, 2015, 10:20:17 PM
Hell just froze over!  Revere?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 10:24:34 PM
farging Benny The Hose!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 11, 2015, 10:33:28 PM
Nattitude!!!1!!!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 11, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
The Nats are still the Phillies' bitches.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 10:38:32 PM
Great job by Ruiz to tag and get into scoring position and Odie was due to get his first hit.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2015, 10:42:13 PM
it was a nice little win but holy shtein j and donho kill me now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 10:59:25 PM
You ain't stealing my joy, you grinchy sob!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 11, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
77!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 11, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
The Braves and Bums, #1 and #2 in the NL East. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 11, 2015, 11:54:19 PM
80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 12:00:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 11, 2015, 11:54:19 PM
80
:)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 01:46:57 AM
scherzer
de grom
harvey

guess:
no hitters
hits
runs
wins
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 12, 2015, 05:24:30 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 11, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
The Braves and Bums, #1 and #2 in the NL East. Enjoy it while it lasts.

David Buchanan!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 12, 2015, 07:37:01 AM
I'm saying it right now... the Phillies will win 85 games and Ryne Sandberg will win Manager of the Year.

Who's with me?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 11:20:00 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150412_Sibling_battle__Phillies_co-owner_Middleton_in_business_dispute_with_sister.html

money fight!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 02:10:36 PM
I am falling in love with OD
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
Yep he's flashed ever since he got here and Schmidt loves him too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
for the greatest team ever, the nationals do suck at hitting
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 02:22:29 PM
They're pretty zesty on defense too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 02:22:29 PM
They're pretty zesty on defense too

who is winning the nl east this year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 02:32:22 PM
man i love choke

even for an awful team thats going to lose 100 games....he takes the cake
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 03:12:29 PM
Awful ABs from Choke...put the bat on the ball, man

He had really good ABs last night but total opposite today
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
3 at bats with RISP

3 awful k's for choke

i know hes not blocking anybody and it doesnt matter....but this whole thing is incredibly sad
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 12, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
At this point Choke would strike out roughly half the time in tee-ball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 03:50:31 PM
if choke didnt already set the golden sombrero record he has to be damn close
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
Golden Sombrero day for Mr Choke

Good to see Ruf yank one. Another great job by the Nats pen lolol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
and choke got pulled from the game....sandberg doing something that coddling geezer manuel never did
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 04:45:56 PM
Looks like a 3-3 start unless they can rally back

Go take 2/3 from the shteinbag Mets now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
Ohhhh so close to tying that. I forgot what a bum Storen is.

Grit missed a walk off three run homer by a half inch on his bat.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
so theyre basically 4-2
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
so theyre basically 4-2

lol

also lol at being a phillie fan and making fun of an offense....especially one missing their two best hitters and their leadoff man
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
So a persons favorite team sucking means they cannot make any snide comments about other teams?

It's all good. Don't get salty about your Nats, man. Havinc a bad Natitude will get you nowhere
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 12, 2015, 07:10:24 PM
lol at being a phillie fan?

you're a farging disgrace.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 12, 2015, 07:11:12 PM
youre basically that fat dude in the stands telling andy reid to lose weight

so no, you cant.

dont throw stones from a glass house....especially when your house sucks donkey dick
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
So a persons favorite team sucking means they cannot make any snide comments about other teams?

yeah thats pretty much how it works

if the nats don't win the world series flame away....making fun of the team that is going to win the division in april is super small time
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Not sure if trolling or exhibiting flawed logic...gonna go with trolling.

Otherwise you'd never be able to make any disparaging remark about any team. And its not even an opinion - its a fact that they play zesty defense and their offense has sucked.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 12, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 11:20:00 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150412_Sibling_battle__Phillies_co-owner_Middleton_in_business_dispute_with_sister.html

money fight!

SELL SELL SELL!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 12, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
so theyre basically 4-2

5-1, you forgot

(http://imgix.scout.com/114/1148540.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
Phillies pitching prospect Zach Eflin started his season on a strong note on Sunday as he made his first start for double-A Reading. The righthander pitched six shutout innings against the Portland Sea Dogs, Boston's double-A affiliate. Eflin allowed four hits and struck out two. He walked one.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 12, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
I'm still fuming when I see the Red Sox prospects and the Dodgers prospects bums "wished for" in some kind of Hamels deal.  Here's to hoping Red Sox are in the thick of things come late July.  Doyers will no doubt be.  Dodgers are loaded with young talent.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 13, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
Phillies pitching prospect Zach Eflin started his season on a strong note on Sunday as he made his first start for double-A Reading. The righthander pitched six shutout innings against the Portland Sea Dogs, Boston's double-A affiliate. Eflin allowed four hits and struck out two. He walked one.

lost cause jesse biddle also pitched well....nola did not.

roman quinn i think had a good week in reading, too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 13, 2015, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Not sure if trolling or exhibiting flawed logic...gonna go with trolling.


c'mon now jay, you know damn well you read the havas handbook for fan etiquette.  ::)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 13, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
yeah he did.....right before he burned it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2015, 12:49:04 PM
I would never burn any literature from you, man!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Nice offense today!

I am listening at work...sat down just in time to see Mr. Untouchable GRIT botch a tailor made double play.

It cost them a run too.

2-0 might as well be 13-0
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 13, 2015, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 13, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Nice offense today!

yea...real departure from the norm
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 14, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
What the hell is Harvey gonna do to this lineup?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 14, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
igy's hero

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCk_VIPVIAEO-WR.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2015, 07:08:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
What the hell is Harvey gonna do to this lineup?

unless his pitch count is down i dont see him going the distance...not there yet

but 7ip, 1-2h, 0 runs, 10+k's
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:14:22 PM
Crowd is going nuts for Harvey.  Guys a God at Citi Field.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
2 up, 2K.  this will be real ugly.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2015, 07:16:29 PM
lol utely into utley's corner

farg you harvey you bitch

on q....keith just said "here's ryan howard, off to another terrible start." god damnit this is the best broadcast in baseball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:16:59 PM
Gritty little stroke did it!  HA!  :-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:18:48 PM
StubHub!  How appropriate to describe Grit's stroke.

Should be an asterick after you K choke.  Looked like a third grader up there.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:21:31 PM
Ah the from the mastery of Harvey to the, well, the shtein of Buchanan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 07:52:54 PM
This poor kid is just awful.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 08:14:46 PM
Buchanans new name is Batting Practice Buchanan - what a farging jugs machine this guy is

And the Mets crew is fantastic. Darling ripping Collins for initiating the delay was fantastic. Think a Phils broadcast will ever rip a Phillies manager? Ha!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Asche goes yard.

4-3

Need another quick inning from BP Buchanan

Love how the SNY crew highlighted how similar Utley and Asche's swings are
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
David Buchanan with a double?  WTF?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 14, 2015, 08:40:14 PM
Groupon is offering tickets for $8.50. (http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-philadelphia-phillies)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 14, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
David Buchanan with a double?  WTF?

Batting average now significantly more than Choke, Utley, Herrera, Sizemore, and Revere combined.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 14, 2015, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 14, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
David Buchanan with a double?  WTF?

Batting average now significantly more than Choke, Utley, Herrera, Sizemore, and Revere combined.

Switch:  Let Howard pitch, let Buchanan play first.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:47:50 PM
shocking.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 08:49:44 PM
Choke got lucky - bad call by Marquez

Freddy Galvis is a brain dead retard too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 14, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
Pretty sure that inning was only dramatic for Mets fans. Not very electric when you already know the ending.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:57:45 PM
Safe? Missed the plate?  Who cares?

farging Ben with the arm!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 09:02:10 PM
ok offense....let's get some runs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 09:02:10 PM
ok offense....let's get some runs

haha
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
Hahafunnyhaha
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 09:39:18 PM
Ballgame.

Unless someone gets lucky and hits a three run homer
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2015, 09:39:35 PM
why are you playing lead cheerleader like its 2004 on the emb

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 09:44:52 PM
AAA you farging goofball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 09:51:00 PM
Don't you worry about me cheering, pal!

Grit busting out nicely tonight- and then Choke follows it up with a check swing joke

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 14, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
Not sure if you have the CSN feed or what, but TMac called McGowan "Marcum" three times in a span of 10 minutes.  He loves those ex-Mets
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 14, 2015, 09:56:17 PM
why on earth would anyone watch the best broadcast in baseball over the worst

i dont care if you only have csn, easy. i dont!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 10:00:00 PM
No shot I'd choose TMac over the best booth in the bigs

And I think that was a bad call on Ruf - gotta see it from the side
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
Well sonofabitch.... That homer to Murphy is the decider.

6-5 loss...Revere with a poor AB ahead of Francoeur and was lambasted by Darling and Hernandez

Galvis overmatched and ODB looked bad too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 14, 2015, 10:28:28 PM
SNY is blacked out.  What else am I gonna watch?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 14, 2015, 11:27:31 PM
Did Sandberg give any insight as to why the brain dead SS decided to try and bunt with Buchanan on 3rd and 1 out?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2015, 06:48:29 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 14, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
Not sure if you have the CSN feed or what, but TMac called McGowan "Marcum" three times in a span of 10 minutes.  He loves those ex-Mets

I doubt it's a mets thing....they played together for like five years on the blue jays both coming up together as big prospects....I used to get them mixed up all the time and sometimes still have to stop and think "which one is that again"....some sort of illiteration in their names doesnt help either
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2015, 08:17:06 PM
went from asche to classy is on farging fire
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
definitely should keep hitting him 7th so jeff francore and the corpse of choke can get more at bats
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
at least hes playing him tonight against a lefty
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
lol the Phillies have the worst offense in baseball and GRIT is bunting in the 5th inning with risp
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 08:27:08 PM
can we all stop it and just admit rough sucks
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 08:31:54 PM
If Sandberg called for that Utley bunt he should be shoved in front of the 7 train.

It Utley bunted on his own he too should be shoved in front of the train
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 08:33:43 PM
individual moments from meaningless games involving washed up fossils definitely matter
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 08:46:55 PM
Maddening to watch them squander so many scoring opportunities tonight. Jesus Christ get the goddamn ball out of the infield
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 15, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
gonna be even more maddening this weekend when you have even odds on the phils against fister zimm scherzer and stras
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
is it also maddening to watch a baby not be able to shtein in the toilet
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
Nice wasted 2 on and no out

Gritty Mfunholeouchable strikes out and then the French dood goes 6-4-3

funholes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 15, 2015, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
Nice wasted 2 on and no out

Gritty Mfunholeouchable strikes out and then the French dood goes 6-4-3

funholes

I'm beginning to think the Phillies might not be very good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 09:26:55 PM
even though they have no talent and a roster full of has beens and questionable young talent, they still should be able to execute and win games and win the world series

come on qb
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Two runner on again - how will they spoil it this time?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 15, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
the farg are you talking to....nobody gives a shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 15, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Two runner on again - how will they spoil it this time?

The only spoiling tonight is gonna be the end of this Magic-Nets game.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
2-16 with RISP tonight and 3-27 for the series.

Nice job
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 15, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Had it on for all of five minutes.  Then went with NHL playoffs with a skosh of NBA.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 16, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
2-16 with RISP tonight and 3-27 for the series.

Nice job

they are who we thought they were
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 16, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
I would rather listen to a Rick Santorum campaign rally speech than watch these shteinheads.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 16, 2015, 03:59:27 PM
choke is batting 7th tonight....first time in 9 years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 16, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
best 7 hitter in the league  :sly


Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 16, 2015, 04:39:06 PM
LOL @ trying to hide him at 7th.

Nice try but he's still as useful as a whale stranded on a beach.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
game 1
nats -1.5/-128

i got em at even
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2015, 06:52:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 16, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
I would rather listen to a Rick Santorum campaign rally speech than watch these shteinheads.

Can Santorum execute the basic bunt? 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
Heidi: one pitch one run
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Home Run Heidi is at it again.

For fargs sake, ACE, keep it in the yard.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
The inability to LAY DOWN A GODDAMN BUNT is comical
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:43:07 PM
Saved by Brycie's zesty defense. Nice catch, buddy!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
The inability to LAY DOWN A GODDAMN BUNT is comical

yet the manager is still making it a big part of his offensive strategy this year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:55:50 PM
Huh look at that...another stellar defensive play by Washington.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 07:58:26 PM
unbelievably stupid walking choke there
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:09:28 PM
Speaking of Choke -- after Tarasco and Brycie said something to the ump about Hamels balking he should've called time and let him know to chill out with the illegal move. He'll be should've seen it on his own and said something

And Heidi should know better too. Nice play, ACE
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 08:17:41 PM
you care whether they win or not more than anyone in the world but you definitely care more about them winning than either Heidi or choke....Heidi is waiting to get traded and choke is counting the days till he can retire in his clearwater mansion...you honestly think they are going to take the time to talk about a heidis move to home
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 08:17:53 PM
nm
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:22:42 PM
They should care.

HOME RUN HEIDI

CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP

HOME RUN HEIDI

CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 16, 2015, 08:28:28 PM
If there's a record for most solo home runs given up to start the season Cole had to break it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:32:58 PM
Ballgame

farg off Hamels you farging soft batch clown
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
sorry j tonight was your one chance to salvage a game this weekend
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
Nah they will win the next three!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2015, 08:44:08 PM
Mets' Matt Harvey keeps Chase Utley and Phillies in check (//http://)

QuoteMore importantly, by plunking Chase Utley square in the back — and then staring him down — Harvey sent a message to his teammates and opponents alike that the Mets mean business these days.

New low?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
Meh...not even newsworthy in my opinion.

Hey hey hey! More RISP fail by the Phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
Somebody on the Mets should have been brained after that, though.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
Agreed.

Duda or Wright should have gotten it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 16, 2015, 09:06:09 PM
buchanen hit two mets before that....the mets responded with a non head shot and both teams moved on....it played out exactly as the unwritten rules call for

stop being homer cry babies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 16, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2015, 08:44:08 PM
Mets' Matt Harvey keeps Chase Utley and Phillies in check (//http://)

QuoteMore importantly, by plunking Chase Utley square in the back — and then staring him down — Harvey sent a message to his teammates and opponents alike that the Mets mean business these days.

New low?

yeah, for the Mets.  Setting the tone againt the train wreck known as the Phils that you're one bad ass team to be reckoned with is straight up pathetic.  Staring down a broken down dude batting .140, I'm scared. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
when did j get this bad....was he always like this and no one noticed?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
J isn't anything but a fan. I know they're zesty but I'm still going to root. We go through this same conversation every year.

And Buchanan didn't hit them on purpose. His control was shtein.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
Not so annoyed by hitting Utley, but the posing afterwards by Harvey needs to be answered.

Of course, since the Phils won't be in most of the games, it probably doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 16, 2015, 10:57:59 PM
i dont really see what harvey did that could be described as a "stare down" or "posing."

what do you want him to do? bow down the shrine of GRIT?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 17, 2015, 05:42:28 AM
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2185672.1429075433!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/469725592.jpg?enlarged)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 07:39:41 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 16, 2015, 10:57:59 PM
what do you want him to do? bow down the shrine of GRIT?

in short yes

And lol at "Buchanan didn't do it on purpose"....that's not how it works
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Oh really? So every hit batter is on purpose?

Buchanan was not trying to hit those guys. Even Darling and Hernandez said that he was wild and they weren't on purpose. So lolol all you want but a guy who is struggling to stay in the bigs isn't going to bean guys on purpose. And I am not saying that to be a homer. Anyone, well anyone but you and anti-Phillie lil guy, can see that.

And lil guy gets proven wrong again...Harvey did stare Utley down like he was some kinda badass.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 17, 2015, 10:30:16 AM
Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose. He's a lousy pitcher. Sometimes balls get away from a pitcher.

And Harvey definitely stared Utley down. Who cares. The Phils are lousy. If these two teams were vying for a playoff spot the drama would be great.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
it doesn't farging matter....you hit two guys on the other team within two innings one of your guys is getting plugged...its just how it is

probably one percent of every batter ever hit in the major leagues was intentional...and 90% of all those came after someone getting unintentionally hit

and lol at getting upset about Harvey...that's just pure jealousy....if the Phillies had a guy like that who stared a met down youd be jerking your junk all over your keyboard
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
the roster stinks, the ace is in full pouty diva mode, the front office sucks, the future looks crappy and fans want to complain about utley being thrown at ?

c'mon jay, this is so far down the ladder it's not even funny.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:39:35 AM
yeah mets are probably my most hated team in all of sports and I cant even get upset....Phillies deserve whatever they get
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 17, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
probably one percent of every batter ever hit in the major leagues was intentional...and 90% of all those came after someone getting unintentionally hit

Yup. In fact I would say that batters intentionally get hit more often than the pitchers intentionally target them. [Utley perhaps most of all.] You can kill a guy or at least farg up his career if you hit him in the right way, that's not something that pitchers are doing very frequently except for express retribution.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 17, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
You can kill a guy or at least farg up his career if you hit him in the right way

and to this point is why I mentioned Harvey did it the right way....he didn't go at utleys head or anything....shtein he didn't even go towards the elbow or hands....square in the back a little stare down and everyone moved on....it was a textbook mlb beanball episode on both sides
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 12:00:30 PM
ben davis made that very point that harvey did it right.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
He threw at him right, yes...in the middle of the back.

My response was to mds saying that Harvey didnt stare him down. Utley handled it right he ran down to first and even made the comment afterwards that it was nothing.

The stare down was like he wanted a fight. Or like he was marking his territory or something. If he wants that then the next ball to one of their stars should be off their back. Give them what they want.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 12:27:40 PM
no what you said was that buchanen didn't do it on purpose therefore Harvey was out of line in retaliating



Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.

I agree that Harvey hit him the right way by not going at his head or hands.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on April 17, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how much you people can talk about the Phillies. Why even expend the energy discussing this joke of a team. There has a to be a Phillies message board somewhere. Right? Somewhere else, other than here. Right?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 17, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
I thought there should have been retribution, if for no other reason than it would have brought a modicum of entertainment to a team that is currently devoid of that element.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 17, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how much you people can talk about the Phillies. Why even expend the energy discussing this joke of a team. There has a to be a Phillies message board somewhere. Right? Somewhere else, other than here. Right?

i might be wrong but i think there may be some non phillies threads on this MB.   
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 12:51:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.

omg no one even argued that point....what you don't understand is that it doesn't matter....you don't know how baseball works...he farging hit two mets in like an inning and a half....it DOESNT MATTER if it was intentional or not a phillie is probably gonna get plunked
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 17, 2015, 12:53:40 PM
The plunk/staredown was the completion of the transaction started when the Phillies slop pitcher lost control. Utley's a big boy, I think he's the active MLB leader in HPB. He doesn't need people protecting him. When Buchanan faces the Mets again, he'll probably hit one of them anyway because he sucks.

Harvey is a professional, Utley is a professional, the only thing about this I expect to continue is the Phillies starting pitcher being unable to hit the side of a barn.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
did anyone see that e:60 on Harvey....maybe he has mellowed a little but im kinda surprised he didn't go at GRIT's dome piece....dook is farging wired and maybe not all there...they showed some acc tournament game that he threw against Clemson where he woulnt come out even when the manager came to the mound....he ended up throwing a complete game with like 180 pitches or something absolutely ridiculous for college much less the pros
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 01:22:42 PM
was it the same game wear a phillie was hit before utley that wasnt actually hit ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 12:51:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.

omg no one even argued that point....what you don't understand is that it doesn't matter....you don't know how baseball works...he farging hit two mets in like an inning and a half....it DOESNT MATTER if it was intentional or not a phillie is probably gonna get plunked

I don't know how baseball works? Yeah ok.

AND I AM OK WITH A PHILLIE GETTING PLUNKED BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT WORKS - MY POINT WAS THE STAREDOWN LIKE HE WANTED A FIGHT

And I believe you "lol'd" when I said Buchanan didnt mean to hit them. Probably called me a homer too. I forget.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
I lol'ed at that because you are clueless to how it works not cause you were being a homer (even tho you were)....and that its completely irrelevant as to whether it was intentional...also hilarious is the notion that you somehow knew it was unintentional but the mets who are major league players and ten feet away from it actually happening didn't know what was going on

your problem seems to not understand the unwritten rules of the game....of which many and maybe even this one are laughable...but that doesn't change the fact that they are what they are
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
You can tell when a guy is wild and doesn't mean to hit players. Even the Mets booth agreed that he wasn't going after them.

I played baseball for a long time and have watched it even longer. I know the unwritten rules as good as anyone. One thing in this world I know a shtein ton about is baseball (I am talking real baseball...not that WAR, VORP, Keith Law/lil guy bullshtein)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
guys are still gonna go after a batter on the other team regardless.

hell i had a coach have his pitcher nail my player at the 12yr old level years back. my pitcher couldnt find the strikezone to save his life that game and hit two kids. the other coach told his son, the pitcher, to nail him. everyone in both dugouts heard him. well a cracked rib later i wasnt happy and he tried to deny it. i wanted curb stomp the fat farg but held back my anger. keep in mind this other coach was the president of our league.


and he was out as president three weeks later after being caught cheating in the district tourney.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 17, 2015, 02:57:11 PM
my buddy just sent me this pic out of the blue. i lol'd.



(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIZZ9UHonLJ3anhQgwMsaBB8I2wYns1g8hgLrBE2RDG1FzDhm7fZbPFxch)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 03:30:28 PM
Lenny eating licorice and has the Jim Carrey Dumb & Dumber haircut...lololol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 07:26:05 PM
Bitchass Brycie's goes for a 3r homer in the first

Yay
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
O Dub with another triple and they actually scored
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
nats were - 240 tonight
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
This is depressing to watch.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 17, 2015, 09:06:30 PM
NHL Playoffs are entertaining.  Phillies aren't.  And baseball's my favorite sport.

It's going to be a long summer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 09:15:26 PM
I just hope they get the number one pick and theres an epic prospect at the top of the draft next summer...I don't care where in the system it is they need something in the organization to create some hope/excitement
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 17, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
They have to rid themselves of the hideous contracts and the dickface GM first.  Then hope Mark Zuckerberg or some other billionaire buys the fossils out who've driven this franchise into the rocks again.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
They have to rid themselves of the hideous contracts and the dickface GM first.

one has nothing to do with the other but there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the deals...heidi definitely and hopefully GRIT get traded this year...lee has a buyout next year

and this will be paplebons last year

they are stuck with choke and chooch for another year

Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
Then hope Mark Zuckerberg or some other billionaire buys the fossils out who've driven this franchise into the rocks again.

they have needed new owners for a million years....the current state of the franchise has nothing to do with the owners...it has to do with horrible scouting terrible contracts and just a general lack of knowledge in how to do a rebuild...they needed new owners in 2008 and they need them now but their current situation mostly has to do with all their good players getting old at the same time
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 17, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.

but anyway this year, you look at:

-asche: i think he's going to be a decent hitter. but franco is going to be the 3B and he needs to get going in LF yesterday. lets find out if he can hit enough and develop the required power to play that position. 

-galvis: maybe. probably not. i dont see him working out here long term...they have too many better powerless bats. when things get real in 2017 or 2018 they are really not going to have lineup space for a .260 hitter who cant walk. he could become a decent utility guy/gypsy going from team to team to patch up SS here or 2B there for a half a season or so.

-od h: way too early but he's fun to watch so far. should start working in some 2B work with what quinn is doing in reading.

-giles: i fear he peaked last year. an arm blowout waiting to happen.

-franco: once he passes his service time threshold they need to call him up and let him go. we get it. he can hit minor league pitching. hes sucked in ST and in his cup of coffee last year. slow starter? sure. theres been at least 2 hall of famers that i think of (mays and sandberg) that blew in their first stretch of ML at bats. but hes not really gaining anything by playing in AAA anymore.

-jp: he's the only top level prospect they have. you god damn well hope he's jimmy II.

-quinn: co-worker of mine compared him to coco crisp. he can farging fly and has decent power. good arm. its only a week but his start at reading has given me a semi.

-the reading pitching staff: no cy young winners in there but some real decent chances to produce middle of the rotation starters. nola maybe can elevate to a 2. still missing that cy young-level horse. with harvey and fernandez in the division, they need to be able to have someone who can stand tall.

if youre going to concern yourself with the performances of sizemore, francore, utley, ruiz, howard, buchanan, etc. you are misguided and just wrong. it doesnt matter.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 18, 2015, 06:00:25 AM
I care as much about them as I did when they were winning.  I don't watch as many games because why bother?  I'm basically boycotting them until Amaro is fired, but honestly, there's nothing remotely interesting about them now.  As least the dreadful teams in the late 90's had Rolen and Schilling to look forward to watching play.  This team is just totally bereft of talent and any sort of exciting guys.  Hell, they don't even have any scrappy beer leaguers to cheer for.

Like I said on the first page... straight garbage.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 17, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.

like yasmany
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2015, 10:16:49 AM
I'm not boycotting, at least not consciously, but there's just little of entertainment value with this team right now.  I'm much more entertained by the NHL and NBA playoffs, and would rather use my limited down time with that right now.

Once summer hits, where I have more time and fewer options, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 10:42:00 AM
I really like watching them lose when im getting free money from j

nationals -190 today
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
It'll even up the next two days.  :-X
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 17, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.

like yasmany

yes. exactly, actually. essentially between 2016 and 2019 they can really start going to crazy with cubans. they arent going to be good enough to spend money on FA, and their in house guys arent going to cost anything. its this perfect middle area to splurge on cubans and hope 1 is yasiel puig.

just because MAG sucks or tomas blows shouldnt deter them. but it will.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
It isn't so much MAG or Tomas, but their coaching sucks and their scouting blows.  And RAJ swallows.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 11:49:31 AM
i know j is in because he was good in texas 5 years ago and thats his perfect storm.....but how about a choke for hamilton trade?

obviously they couldnt do it straight up. phils either need prospects or cash help coming back. but both are on the market and this is a perfect "Your problem for my problem" deal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
farg that bible thumping pos...id rather have choke for five more years than bring that jesus freak anywhere near the phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 12:03:19 PM
pretty sure he thumps more lines than bibles these days
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
theres one more year of choke....we are near the end....no reason to bring that farg face in
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 12:08:32 PM
1 it opens up a spot for franco
2 the phillies dont have a corner of on their roster or anywhere close to their roster
3 it would be interesting....much more so than continuing to hit choke's corpse 7th
4 its a made up trade i made up. i made it up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 12:16:32 PM
I bet theres not three guys in the league id want less than josh Hamilton...also hidden by the hideous person he is is the fact that he just aint any good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
NO on Hamilton.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 01:38:33 PM
been 48 innings played on this roadie and the Phillies have led for 2 of them
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Desmond lolol

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2015, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Desmond lolol

He seems to have forgotten how to play second base.  Goes well with Zimmerman forgetting how to throw from third.

Or with the entire Phillies team forgetting how to play baseball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
And Bryce Harper forgetting how to be a male
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
I've got a full blown man crush on Herrera...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Desmond plays SS and Zimmerman 1b
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Desmond plays SS and Zimmerman 1b

Zimmerman used to play 3B before he forgot how to throw.

As for Desmond... whoops.  I messed that one like he does a double play.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
Doooooobie!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
j

desmond or galvis
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
Building a team to win now or acquiring a guy for a playoff push and you take Desmond. Even with the defensive miscues you take his offense and replace him late in the game if necessary.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2015, 07:50:36 PM
jimmy the s brought this up today

phils made ender inciarte their rule 5 pick in 2012....he was returned to arizona so the phillies could sign ezequiel carrera. inciarte had a great rookie season last year and is off to a good start this year.

remember in 2005 i think it was they picked victorino in rule 5, then offered him back to los doyer....only los doyer didnt want him back.

but they held onto another rule 5 pick for the entire season in 2009 i think, so they wouldnt lose him. his name was michael martinez.

the phillies!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 08:19:58 PM
Yeah I was just reading that.

farging Mike Mike sucks.

Dave Hollins was a rule fiver too

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 18, 2015, 09:06:24 PM
Garland them with timeless lilies!
Although they are a bunch of dillies
Who give honest men the willies-
We still love them for their sillies-
Hail, The Phillies.

- James Michener
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 09:56:11 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/the-tightrope-of-baseballs-walk-year/2015/04/18/4b070e0a-e506-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html

Quote"Yeah, you should. You got the hammer," said Manuel, who grew up in baseball's pay-'em-peanuts era that lasted for almost a century. "Just make sure you use it. If you take some horsebleep deal and stay here, I'll never talk to you."

Manuel was dead serious, remembers Werth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2015, 07:12:01 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
theres one more year of choke....we are near the end....no reason to bring that farg face in

one billion percent agree.  not so much because he's a hypocritical weak willed bitch ass christian (although that's a biggie), though.  they need to get rid of hideous contracts, not replace them with those that are equally bad or in hamilton's case, worse.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2015, 04:04:30 PM
j send me 65 bucks please....40 + fbb loot....I especially need that to pay the winner
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
On the way mañana!

I envisioned Grit going hard to tie it. Then realized he's the worst hitter in the majors right now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2015, 04:31:19 PM
paypal stillupfront's mom
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
I'm still +35 consider I jacked a bill from you :)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
On the way mañana!

I envisioned Grit going hard to tie it. Then realized he's the worst hitter in the majors right now.

second worst....behind one of his teammates...at least he has 8 rbi

combined they are 11 for 80

lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 19, 2015, 08:07:23 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
I'm still +35 consider I jacked a bill from you :)

fix was in

sixers got to 18 then lost like 15 in a row to end the season....total con job against me
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 08:15:44 PM
Hinkie Magic baby!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 04:41:01 PM
Chooch batting clean up tonight

love this team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 06:07:39 PM
Serious question: if a random member of this message board had been installed as Phillies GM back in 2011, would this team be in any worse condition than it is now?

Maybe they wouldn't be any better, and maybe they'd have Brett Myers signed to a 7 year contract, but I'm not sure they'd really be any worse.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 21, 2015, 07:05:09 PM
Whatever happened to the Vorp guy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 06:07:39 PM
Serious question: if a random member of this message board had been installed as Phillies GM back in 2011, would this team be in any worse condition than it is now?

Maybe they wouldn't be any better, and maybe they'd have Brett Myers signed to a 7 year contract, but I'm not sure they'd really be any worse.

I don't know I spent much of the offseason screaming at people who wanted to hang on and that it had to be blown up....seems like there were a lot of RAJ's on the board then

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
last year as much as i knew they would fail i could understand the homerism and even i bought in when the playoffs started...but this year can we please not act like they have a chance of winning the world series.....they are a buch of inury riddled senior citizens whose window has shut.....so stop discussing what they can or cant do to win it all next year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 21, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
Yeah, none of the rest of us saw the demise coming, igs... just you.

Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Utley had almost no pop in the last two months - a total of 3 HR since Aug. 1, and Howard's numbers remained nearly stagnant from last year, even though he missed more time.  More troubling is that Howard's slugging was below .500 for the first time in his career.  Without monstrous power, Howard sucks the life completely out of the lineup.  His injury could be a blessing in disguise, only if it spurs His Smugness to actually look for a bat during the offseason (I can't say I'm optimistic of Amaro spending money on a bat - they'll cry luxury tax).

Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
One thing:  The proverbial window is definitely closing - how quickly will depend on the front office's actions this winter.  Without some aggressive moves, it could already be closed.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Zn1xjQvhGuU/TAOa9T58lDI/AAAAAAAAAEk/tR9pVQa32XE/s400/gorilla_beating_chest.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 21, 2015, 08:45:24 PM
lol right? IGY will perpetually claim something that eventually has to happen.

Reminds me of the GOP over the last 6 years with Obama. Eventually something will go wrong, and they'll start shouting that they've  been saying it all along.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 21, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
Yeah, none of the rest of us saw the demise coming, igs... just you.

Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Utley had almost no pop in the last two months - a total of 3 HR since Aug. 1, and Howard's numbers remained nearly stagnant from last year, even though he missed more time.  More troubling is that Howard's slugging was below .500 for the first time in his career.  Without monstrous power, Howard sucks the life completely out of the lineup.  His injury could be a blessing in disguise, only if it spurs His Smugness to actually look for a bat during the offseason (I can't say I'm optimistic of Amaro spending money on a bat - they'll cry luxury tax).

Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
One thing:  The proverbial window is definitely closing - how quickly will depend on the front office's actions this winter.  Without some aggressive moves, it could already be closed.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Zn1xjQvhGuU/TAOa9T58lDI/AAAAAAAAAEk/tR9pVQa32XE/s400/gorilla_beating_chest.gif)

ignorance
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:56:46 PM
Most Philly fans have a negative slant always... look at the results, it's justified. Phreak has soaked up enough Texas sun to be unabashedly positive sometimes but the closest most of us get to excitement is cautious optimism. igy chooses to cover everything in Philly sports with an extra layer of bleakness. I can't blame him too much, it makes winning that much more of a sweet surprise and the teams usually find a way to shtein all over positive things that happen anyway.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 08:58:56 PM
im an admitted hater but knowing the phillies window was closed and that they should have started to blow it up didnt take bleakness it took eyes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2015, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/409a839ece0f3807d23861fc6e744568/tumblr_n6zdmspPiE1skh0gdo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 21, 2015, 09:59:34 PM
Stanton's dinger tonight was a moon shot.  Holy shtein.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2015, 10:02:56 PM
Yes it was...as soon as I saw the location and him start to extend his arms I cringed

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 21, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
ben revere's little league triple was the best
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 21, 2015, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb

God forbid someone boos him. Oh he's fiery and gritty and said farg one time.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2015, 03:08:43 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb

Like you said last week, it's time to take him out back and put him down. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 22, 2015, 06:55:34 AM
The two walks is much more amazing than the atrocious BA...couldn't believe that when I looked up his numbers...his on base is .154...WOW
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 22, 2015, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVZfaPDYFQkkFMOwO8F3P5NZn8zXZbm9uKmZ9a7lkHha2cV7f-erJXfyk)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 22, 2015, 05:57:24 PM
Choke barely clearing CF shrubs last night gives me hope. 

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 07:31:55 PM
I'm watching this slop.   Muted, of course.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 07:34:47 PM
Yeah, I'm done now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 07:53:43 PM
You missed an Asche homer!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 08:12:15 PM
You also missed an owl on TV! No not a Temple Owl - a real one.

And I learned the reason they turn their heads so far is because their eyes don't move. Never knew that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 22, 2015, 09:04:47 PM
lol at balking the go ahead run in.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 09:32:03 PM
Another blistering demonstration of offensive firepower from these mongrels tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:33:43 PM
Utley is a farging train wreck. He just dropped the ball!

And finally a smattering of boos for The Teflon Gritmeister
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 22, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
#phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
Herrera makes a mistake now. Drops the ball and bases clear

farging ridiculous

Outta the inning if Utley catches the simple toss from Galvis for the force
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2015, 09:37:53 PM
holy crap, they suck

80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
They literally are an abomination.  As in the worst farging collection of horseflies on a steaming pile of shtein I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 09:48:54 PM
Six runs allowed, two earned.

I mean just no.  NO.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on April 22, 2015, 09:50:04 PM
i went to a game in dc over the weekend and only recognized a few names in the lineup. i also thought they lost 5-3 instead of won 5-3 so i may have been a bit drunk.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2015, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
They literally are an abomination.  As in the worst farging collection of horseflies on a steaming pile of shtein I've ever seen.

dude they gonna win 80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 22, 2015, 09:58:35 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:33:43 PM
Utley is a farging train wreck. He just dropped the ball!

And finally a smattering of boos for The Teflon Gritmeister

I laugh at all the people who named their kids Chase
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 22, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
Big talk from someone who was named after Mike Maddux.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on April 22, 2015, 10:09:47 PM
i know two awful people from high school that named their kid chase.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 22, 2015, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
Herrera makes a mistake now. Drops the ball and bases clear

farging ridiculous

Outta the inning if Utley catches the simple toss from Galvis for the force

Would've been a 1-2-3 inning if a-hole home plate ump called the 0-2 strike on Ichiro

farg it, here's that Odubel play again
http://m.marlins.mlb.com/mia/video/v84681283/miaphi-three-runs-score-on-herreras-miscue
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 22, 2015, 11:52:17 PM
marlolon byrd is hitting .115

ben lively with 6 shutout innings tonight

lets hear it for the legend roooooooooooooooob
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2015, 07:51:17 AM
Half the phils lineup is hitting under .200
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2015, 10:21:08 AM
the phillies are of course awful in every sense of the word, but the lineup they are going with today goes well beyond the point of abomination

herrera-revere-asche-francore-rough-hernandez-rupp-blanco-mcgowan

why not just forfeit and save time?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on April 23, 2015, 10:25:04 AM
this is the team with the 8th biggest payroll in baseball at $143M

at least the 90's early 2000's teams had shtein payroll and you knew what you were getting. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 23, 2015, 12:49:52 PM
I said that a few pages back.   At least we had Rolen playing every night and Schilling once a week. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 23, 2015, 02:07:32 PM
yeah but CBP alone makes it worth the trip to a game.


wait, no it doesn't.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 23, 2015, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.

lets just keep referring back to these gems all year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 23, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
The starting lineup today had a combined average of .219.

Two. Nineteen.

ROOB.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 23, 2015, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
The starting lineup today had a combined average of .219.

Two. Nineteen.

ROOB.

add in Dustin McGowen starting and you get free money
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 23, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
It's not that bad.  It's worse. 80? 

Just showed a bunch of kids in the crowd whooping it up.  Probably the one time in their life they wished they were back in school.  Algebra pop quiz > CBP shtein Show
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 24, 2015, 04:13:48 PM
QuoteThe announced crowd of 17,097 that came to see the two worst teams in the NL East on a chilly day was the smallest in the 11-year history of Citizens Bank Park.

17K my ass.  More like 10,000 showed up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 25, 2015, 05:24:53 AM
QuoteIn fact, Papelbon wants out. He thinks he can help a contending team win a championship, and said he will be disappointed if the Phillies are unable to move him this season.

"Yeah, I will be," Papelbon said in an interview with CSNPhilly.com Phillies Insider Jim Salisbury. "If we continue to lose.

Papsmear, look in the mirror and repeat "I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough and doggone it, people don't like me".

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/949ea77e6dcf3659094291939e763f15/tumblr_n865vdE7P91rdzuduo1_540.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 08:18:01 PM
Omg

That play by Galvis!!


Damn he hurt himself though

What a play!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
Galvis is ok...whew

Helluva scoop by Choke on that too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2015, 09:53:22 PM
sevy gonzo called up and starting on tuesday
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 25, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
Galvis is ok...whew

yeah if galvis was hurt the season would turn into a disaster
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 10:16:20 PM
Has nothing to do with the season and you know that. He's playing well and it's important for him to keep building on this and to have as many ABs as he can
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 25, 2015, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 25, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
Galvis is ok...whew

yeah if galvis was hurt the season would turn into a disaster

lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Totally what I was saying. He made a great play and is hitting well. God forbid he stays healthy and continues to grow as a major leaguer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 25, 2015, 10:44:24 PM
Freddy Galvis has been the best player on the team thus far this season.

Think about that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 10:16:20 PM
Has nothing to do with the season and you know that. He's playing well and it's important for him to keep building on this and to have as many ABs as he can

hes a utility guy....best case scenario

asche and franco are the guys to watch. franco more so. asche probably wont hit enough to justify his zesty defense and lack of speed.

and i guess odb, too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2015, 12:31:42 AM
He may fizzle out but he's exceeded what I thought he'd be with the bat so far. I had him pegged for a .235-.245 hitter with a great glove. But his approach has been much better this year and I'd like to see him log 500-600 ABs

Franco needs to come up in a couple weeks and play.

I wonder how much Dom is gonna play too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 26, 2015, 05:55:38 AM
I don't want to see any Dom, he makes me angry. He was the one guy Rube tried to develop during the World Series window, and he is farging terrible. Nothing is being salvaged there, he sucks.

Galvis is hot right now. In fact he's having a significantly better season than Jimmy so far. But notice that Ed hasn't even posted a MOCK yet. That's because there is some reason to doubt the sustainability of what we're seeing, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
Ain't no mocking Jimmy!

But yeah he's struggling....
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 01:27:38 PM
is it possible for a washed up old fart to suck, or are they just "struggling"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 26, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
In the field for today's game:

(http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/project-home/Abbot-and-Costello-Field-Image.JPG)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 26, 2015, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 26, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
In the field for today's game:

(http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/project-home/Abbot-and-Costello-Field-Image.JPG)

Well at least they made an improvement in right field.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 04:20:14 PM
giles needs to stop walking people
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:37:09 PM
he has a 0.00 era
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
and a 1.80 whip
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
you do whip?

that wasnt on the back of the baseball card when you were 12
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 04:40:41 PM
yeah but its in our fantasy league
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
so are complete games, of which are there maybe 2 per week
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
so are complete games, of which are there maybe 2 per week

can turn the tide of an entire matchup if you can pull one
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:45:51 PM
one random good performance isnt saving my worthless team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
yeah what the hell is wrong with you this year....i saw your record not knowing whose team it was and thought it was jon's brother or someone not doing their lineup....but you actually try
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
no clue

i havent been as into it this year....maybe because my bigger league is weekly and therefore zone out on the daily side. but all in all the players that i elected to draft arent good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 05:25:21 PM
werent you super bullish about your staff
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 26, 2015, 05:27:41 PM
yea theyre still great

but wins and losses are totally random and my bullpen dudes blow up and inflate the era....well except for cole hamels lack of wins. i knew that was coming.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2015, 05:42:38 PM
Lil ain't full IN and won't be until you remove pesky stats like RBI and add VORP and BABIP. Until then? Cursory glances at the lineup.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 26, 2015, 08:41:47 PM
Freddy Galvis already has 4 games this season of 3 hits or more. Dee Gordon is the only player in baseball with more.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2015, 08:59:26 PM
A totally different player at the plate.

Him, Revere and Odub are having good ABs.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 27, 2015, 07:57:25 AM
Quite the imposing lineup of slap-hitters. Too bad there's no one on the team capable of driving them in.  But hey, Mr. May is back, so yayyyyyyy!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 27, 2015, 09:10:07 AM
hittin' season will soon be here.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
Utley with two long drives that Jay hauls in. Dude is covering serious ground out there.

Junkballer Lackey is getting a lot of grounders. Someone get a farging big hit
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2015, 10:36:32 PM
Revere saved Mackanin and Asche from being put in the clown suit

Nice W if Papsmear can save it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 08:00:18 AM
Kenny G stepped his game up last night....no walks...now just need to deal paps so we can see him in the closer role
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:12:15 AM
His velocity is still way down though.

But yeah deal Papsmear ASAP....I don't want him as the all time saves leader! Send him to Washington or Toronto
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 28, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top

no doubt and that was a nice audition for him in st louis last night.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 28, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
He didn't look like a weeping twat when shtein went sideways either. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on April 28, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
Sev and Chooch will be the first battery from Panama in MLB history when they start tonight

HOF was activated from the DL and will stay with the Pigs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
He didn't look like a weeping twat when shtein went sideways either.

Gonna miss that look.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 06:44:04 PM
Savino Bratton is starting tonight?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: smeags on April 28, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top

no doubt and that was a nice audition for him in st louis last night.

That is huge.  As stated earlier, watch a lot of Doyers games (sorry bionic).  Damn are they loaded with some incredible prospects.  Sickening.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 06:46:06 PM
Sure is.  Gonzalez vs. Wacha
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top

i push the dodgers for seager or the sox for swihart

cards dont have a monster prospect like that now that tavares is dead
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 07:43:47 PM
Tavares' corpse could hit better than HOF?

Get Seager and Guerrero from the Dodgers
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2015, 07:45:13 PM
seager is probably unattainable....hamels isnt roy halladay

and the dodgers just cleared out hanley so seager could take over at SS. i dont want to upset your delicate sensibilities kiddo but jimmy isnt a long term solution there.

anyway guerrero wouldnt a bad piece. but id demand pederson or seager. need 1.

aaaaaaaaand bucholz getting shelled tonight. boston's rotation is in shambles. i trust roob to use this to his advantage.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:09:43 PM
Amaro use something to his advantage? Ha.

Boston is gonna have to come off Swihart in any deal
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:21:12 PM
Ugly Utley AB...again
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
Kid got rocked a bit in the first.  Hope he can settle down.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 08:34:55 PM
What say you?

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/Phillies%20Vote.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on April 28, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins

I love Jimmy but he ain't getting the nod over Ashburn
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 28, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
Klein
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins/Roberts is a serious toss up.  I'd go Rollins, though.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins

I love Jimmy but he ain't getting the nod over Ashburn

By far over Whitey.

A double for Odubel !!!

And Utley....stop the presses...GOT A HIT
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 08:58:14 PM
Holy shtein, manufacturing!

Correct Geo, kid is getting slapped around.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:05:02 PM
And the thumping continues...Severino (iPhone tried to auto correct that to we drink lolol) is getting hit around. Getting too much of the plate. Come on, kid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 28, 2015, 09:05:18 PM
Really there's Schmidt and Carlton and then there's everybody else.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha

Hit the showers kiddo
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
One omission on the choice list:  Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
One omission on the choice list:  Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)

because the only people who have heard of him are extreme baseball nerds and geezers

id go: carlton, schmidt, rollins, roberts

robby was a hall of famer and all but his era was totally irrelevant. they won 1 measly pennant and were swept by the yankees. utley has a definite argument as one of the faces of 1 of only 2 good eras of baseball in the history of this wretched team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha

Hit the showers kiddo

Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha

(http://home.online.no/~mrroboto/pacmania/the-emulators/atari2600-pacman.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on April 28, 2015, 09:41:30 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
One omission on the choice list:  Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)

No love for Big Ed Delahanty? One of the all-time BA champions, plus he took a drunk dive over the Falls.

Let's face it, anything before 1920 wasn't baseball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
LA is going in on Dom Brown for apparently taking the allowed 72hrs before reporting to Lehigh since his assignment there after the rehab...even though he was there

@FranzkeLA: LA - "He should be thrilled. Through arbitration he gets a $2M dollar raise, for basically having one good month in his career"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:57:28 PM
Something strange has been going on with that situation.  It wouldn't surprise me if Von Brown never played for the Phils again.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
Diekman walked the pitcher and it hurt him

Says a lot that's he's relegated to pitching the 5th of a 7-4 game
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
I know this team blows and it is what it is but good lord Jake Diekman is just awful.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
why are you watching this garbage
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 28, 2015, 10:24:35 PM
I often ask myself that same question.  it's mostly back ground music in my office, only 4:20 PM here.  Come June 1 when they're 20 games out I'll probably stop.  Plus it's the first go around in the schedule so it's cool (and depressing) seeing who's who and who's got what. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
Why not watch? Flipping around to this and NBA and other shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 28, 2015, 10:36:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
Why not watch? Flipping around to this and NBA and other shtein

because they are a boring awful team playing a bunch of worthless geezers
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 10:56:15 PM
They're showing some fight tonight

Galvis with another fantastic game and Odub has some good ABs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 29, 2015, 10:40:09 AM
asche starting some LF work with the franco countdown clock ticking

this either means the end of ben revere or that his noodle arm moves to RF which would be hysterical
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on April 29, 2015, 11:20:16 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha

Hit the showers kiddo

Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha

(http://home.online.no/~mrroboto/pacmania/the-emulators/atari2600-pacman.gif)

I know this shouldn't surprise anyone but I actually laughed out loud when I saw this.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
lol that is pretty good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 29, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
Geo always come through.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 29, 2015, 09:08:21 PM
pretty good broadcast going on over espn

its a bit cards heavy since the phillies suck.....but they arent back of the baseball card stat worshiping so thats welcome
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2015, 09:27:02 PM
Dumb farging idiot Revere...and Sandberg too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on April 29, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
Would Ryan Howard still have a respectable batting average if not for the shift?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 02:03:00 PM
Good start today

Francoeur is useless and Buchanan is a farging batting practice pitcher
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on April 30, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
I admire the fact that this team somehow still finds a way to irritate you.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 30, 2015, 02:22:03 PM
jay still wont come to grips with the fact that the 08 run is over.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
I know 08 is over!

O'Double with an RBI...he's a helluva find by Amaro. Shocking.

EL - I hate bad baseball. Major leaguers shouldn't be stupid or not fundamentally sound and when that happens I drives me bonkers. Being not good is one thing but when they make stupid mistakes or the manager is a half-wit it makes me crazy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on April 30, 2015, 02:29:09 PM
considering this team, its a testament to your character jay that you arent in a straightjacket.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on April 30, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
EL - I hate bad baseball. Major leaguers shouldn't be stupid or not fundamentally sound and when that happens I drives me bonkers. Being not good is one thing but when they make stupid mistakes or the manager is a half-wit it makes me crazy.

so you want a bad team thats smart, fundamentally sound with a smart manager

seems possible
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on April 30, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
Relax J, Dickface and his 10.00 ERA is in. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 03:50:48 PM
Is it "let your kid who should be working at dominos pizza pitch day"?

Buchanan should never make another start
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on April 30, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
when i see phreak posting in the phillies thread...

(http://gifsoup.com/view/650523/you-can-act-like-a-man-o.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
Hahah nice
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 02, 2015, 07:48:59 AM
Remember when the Phillies were fun

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/9782246/v20050575/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 02, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
Three things:

The catch was great.

The PBP commentary by Harry Kalas was even better.

Sal Fasano's mustache = epic.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2015, 03:48:04 PM
Tee ball pitcher David Buchanan has been sent down.

Finally
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 02, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
What other tee ball pitcher is replacing him?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 02, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
Looks like Chad Billingsley.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2015, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 02, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
What other tee ball pitcher is replacing him?

None

They're dipping into the Babe Ruth league and bringing up Billingsley
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
Turned on the game just in time to see Prado teeing off on Heidi

Three run shot
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 02, 2015, 06:15:51 PM
6 runs on 10 hits for Heidi

Nice job
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 02, 2015, 07:21:42 PM
LOL at that little bitch. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 01:44:23 AM
yea this was the game that ended their playoff hopes

nice job
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 01:48:17 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2015, 01:44:23 AM
yea this was the game that ended their playoff hopes

lol

fans are fascinating creatures
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 03, 2015, 07:30:12 AM
Fewest runs scored in MLB to this point.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 09:32:26 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 03, 2015, 07:30:12 AM
Fewest runs scored in MLB to this point.

80 tho
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be

fraud
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 11:27:42 AM
blah blah blah...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
is this how you act when the cowboys beat the eagles?

because when the eagles beat the cowboys im certain you are rubbing it in
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 04:59:19 PM
So you're rooting against the Phillies? You like to rub it in?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 04:59:19 PM
So you're rooting against the Phillies?

i am
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 04:59:19 PM
So you're rooting against the Phillies? You like to rub it in?

today i was because i had cosart going in my big league

mostly im indifferent

but i do like to rub it in to you in the same you gloat to one of your clients who is a cowboys fan when mel kiper jr gives the eagles a higher grade in their draft than the cowboys got
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
i know the baseball draft isnt what other drafts are but why would you not root for the phils to get the number one pick next summer....for one its the only way they are getting any attention or interest and two its the best thing for the team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
i know the baseball draft isnt what other drafts are but why would you not root for the phils to get the number one pick next summer....for one its the only way they are getting any attention or interest and two its the best thing for the team

but 80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Meh...they'll lose enough to get a high pick but that ain't gonna stop me from rooting for them. Don't get how you can't understand that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
oh i understand it....its insanity...but sure

but you cant make wild, stupid predictions and not expect to get called out on it. nobody else does that here. nobody.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Kinda like that wild over Sixers win bet eh?

Season ain't over son.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 11:14:46 PM
that was a toss up going into the season...if we had bet on 25 or 30 it would be wild

if we bet on the phillies o/u 60 it wouldnt be wild....but you said 80 wait youre trolling STOP
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 11:44:15 PM
80 truly is the epitomy of homerism
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2015, 11:52:57 PM
this blake swihart looks like hes 12

does not have a middle of the order body to me
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
Utley is hitting .108

It's a gritty buck oh eight though!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 04, 2015, 10:54:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
Utley is hitting .108

It's a gritty buck oh eight though!

That was going into tonight's game.  After an 0-for-4, he's down to .103.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on May 04, 2015, 11:09:02 PM
Phillies farged up my streak for the cash tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2015, 11:51:04 PM
So is the .100 average now the Utley line?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 05, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
phils got that dub
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 05, 2015, 12:14:19 AM
Indeed.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip

hes learning
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 06:32:12 PM
Phillies finally busting out the sabrmetrics... but only to make excuses for Grit.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip

hes learning

everyone knows how terrible he is this year (an amazing .103).....but hes hitting .215 since last april 15th i think....555 ab's or something like that...its weird how many people act shocked about him right now like it came out of nowhere
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip

.082....league average is .293....holy shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 07:01:23 PM
zolecki says phils favored to get this guy...

Jhailyn Ortiz | Rank: 1
Hometown: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Position: OF
Age: 16
DOB: 11/18/1998
Bats: R T
hrows: R
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 260 lb.

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 65 | Run: 35 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50
Two words come to mind when Ortiz's name is mentioned: raw power.

Ortiz has the most raw power in the entire class, the type of power scouts have not seen from a player his age in years. The teenager puts on a show during batting practice and more importantly, he has shown the ability to hit for power in games. His home runs are legendary, and his line drives into the gaps are just as impressive.

Some scouts have concerns about his overall athleticism and wonder if his large frame will eventually force him to switch positions from the outfield (left field) to first base. Others believe he has the tools to stay in the outfield and he will only get better on defense and as an overall hitter once he signs and is placed into a team's academy. One thing is certain, the type of power Ortiz has does not come around very often and the team that signs him is getting a player that can not only hit home runs, but can hit them into the upper deck.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 07:15:45 PM
choke jr?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on May 05, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
6'2 260? Jesus christ. Dude's either built like Dwayne Johnson or is a tub of lard.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on May 05, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
And it's not like he's a grown ass man either. He's 16.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 10:36:20 PM
Another solid outing for the Fightins.

And there's this:

QuoteSandberg said it was "a pretty good possibility" Utley's break "from the mental side" will continue through Wednesday's final game of the series. Sandberg said Utley has "hit the ball very hard, right on the nose," but hasn't had any luck.

1) Utley's slump isn't mental.
2) He HAS hit the ball significantly less hard than in past seasons.
3) If it's luck (and partially it is -- he's not THAT bad), what's the point of holding him out?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip

.082....league average is .293....holy shtein

Is there a funnier/sadder stat than Utley leading this team in RBIs right now?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 05, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
phils didnt get that dub tonight
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 05, 2015, 11:07:32 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/5jw8IiyyLzfQk/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 06, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 05, 2015, 11:07:32 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/5jw8IiyyLzfQk/giphy.gif)

one of the greatest cartoons ever and very fitting for this team.  :yay :yay
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2015, 09:52:25 AM
elias: only four players in the last 50 years hit .115 or lower in their first 100 plate appearances and finished the season above .200

grit is at .103 thru 99 pa
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 06, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
oh and if anyone cares.....

kevin kouzmanoff - 2007, royce clayton - 2001, don wert - 1969, mike epstein, 1968
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 06, 2015, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 06, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
oh and if anyone cares.....

kevin kouzmanoff - 2007, royce clayton - 2001, don wert - 1969, mike epstein, 1968

chase utley - 2015 .... right jay ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 06, 2015, 10:30:09 AM
Sure why not?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 06, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
why cant they win 80?

why cant the eagles win the super bowl?

why wont hinkies plan work?

everything's coming up philly!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 08, 2015, 05:56:57 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
.082....league average is .293....holy shtein

Is there a funnier/sadder stat than Utley leading this team in RBIs right now?

QuoteUtley, 36, has not doubled in 87 at-bats. He had 10 through the same number of at-bats last season, when he was an all-star for the sixth time. He is hitless in 15 at-bats since his home run Friday in Miami. Despite his struggles, Utley's 14 RBIs still led the Phillies going into Tuesday.

It's so sad it's funny.  Unreal. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 08, 2015, 07:44:40 PM
utley down to .102!

how lowwwwwwwwwwwwwww will it go?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 08, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
oooo baby its now at .101

we're getting under the utley line tonight folks
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 08, 2015, 10:18:34 PM
Ends the night at .099.  That's gritty.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 08, 2015, 11:57:46 PM
beat harvey.........................80!!!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 09, 2015, 03:52:57 AM
Did it hurt to see them win tonight?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 10, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
billingsly is the hindenberg
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 10, 2015, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 10, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
billingsly is the hindenberg

Fits right in with this team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 10, 2015, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 10, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
billingsly is the hindenberg

:-D  LOL!  "The horror!" sure does sum it up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 11, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
in lieu of talking about this worthless used tampon of a team (80?!?) im just gonna post youtube videos from when they were good

first up is one of my favorite, albeit random comebacks from the glory days. i remember joe torre's corpse leaving his pitcher out to dry in the 8th too long...but this was classic phillies. big hits from AAAA players like francisco and valdez. werth doing werth thing. they just owned this POS dodgers team and that shook donkey jon broxton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4MJKdHIbAk
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on May 11, 2015, 07:44:47 PM
Wait...why is Wheels in the booth
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
Wheels is in what booth?

Odub needs to sit for a bit. 2-23 with 14k's...yuck

And I've seen about enough of Asche. Franco come on down
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:15:15 PM
Diekman has lost it as well.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 11, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
yea the AAA player needs to "sit for a bit"

what does that even mean
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
Don't play stupid.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on May 11, 2015, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
Wheels is in what booth?

Odub needs to sit for a bit. 2-23 with 14k's...yuck

And I've seen about enough of Asche. Franco come on down

Not sure how many CSN broadcasts you've seen but Ben Davis sounds like Wheels

Dubz hit his first career HR in the 9th

and Asche was shipped to LV after the game to learn LF.  Maik comes up this weekend after the 40-day cutoff that delays free agency another year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 11:53:28 PM
I never thought he sounded like Wheels. He has t said no doubles or middle in yet I don't think.

Good to see Asche go down - maybe he'll learn how to hit while he's there too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2015, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
Don't play stupid.

im not....just trying to get you to stop regurgitating whatever you heard harold reynolds or wheeler say on tv in the early 90s. there is absolutely no evidence to suggest "sitting for a few days" does anything to break someone out of a slump.

also herrera isnt really even in a slump. hes not a major league player (yet). hes going to look really bad at various points. sorry its cutting into your 80 win juggernaut.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 12, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Sitting someone allows someone else who isn't totally sucking to take their place.  Also - taking a couple of days off gives everyone a breather. From them ,from you, from the situation... everything.  I don't know if it's statistically quantifiable, but it's true in the real world.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Yeah what Rome said.

Young buck struggling like that? Sit for a couple games and hit the cage.

But I forgot your baseball intellect is way higher than us plebes. Can't figure out why you're not a GM or at least a manager.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
But I forgot your baseball intellect is way higher than us plebes. Can't figure out why you're not a GM or at least a manager.

thats very accurate. i would make a great gm but for a variety of reasons it was never my career path.

Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Sitting someone allows someone else who isn't totally sucking to take their place.  Also - taking a couple of days off gives everyone a breather. From them ,from you, from the situation... everything.  I don't know if it's statistically quantifiable, but it's true in the real world.

i dont know what that means.

plenty of players simply hit through a slump. "taking a few days" is cliche nonsense you heard when you were a kid or something and you just bring it up because you think its right. it doesnt mean anything. kind of like this conversation.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 11:26:56 AM
you both are right

big picture taking a few days off isn't going to magically make someone a better hitter....but rest in any sport can help a player both physically and mentally....that's just a fact

but this example on its own is rather laughable....the season is just over a month old...it comical to think that a 23 year old on a zesty team with no pressure on him needs time off....basically whats happened is hes not that good to begin with and theres a book beginning to form on how to pitch him since hes a rookie....he needs to make adjustments now....and that is done by getting major league at bats....not taking a day off or in the batting cage

completely sending him down (which they cant do) makes way more sense than some pine time
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 12, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
is this really going to turn into a 5page debate over cody asche being sent to the minors ?

this is the sad state of this team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
not talking about cody asche....i think maybe you need some time away from the game playa
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 11:26:56 AM
you both are right

big picture taking a few days off isn't going to magically make someone a better hitter....but rest in any sport can help a player both physically and mentally....that's just a fact


i can deal with this....im really just challenging j because he is a parrot baseball fan who repeats what wheeler said in 1995 during the glory days of his youth in pville (what up tex!)

Quote from: smeags on May 12, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
is this really going to turn into a 5page debate over cody asche being sent to the minors ?

this is the sad state of this team.

asche was sent to the minors to learn a new position because he wasnt good enough at the position they taught him how to play. also hes not going to be good enough for the new position hes learning but really does it matter?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 11:46:27 AM
theres two things to talk about regarding the Phillies this season

1. the status/fate of their younger players/prospects - good or bad
2. veterans getting traded

that's it...that's the list

if you cant handle either of those topics then just don't pay attention to them at all
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
I do not and have not listened to Chris Wheeler when it comes to anything that has to do with baseball strategy or philosophies.

That's akin to me listening to you.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on May 12, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
They have the #1 pick in the 2016 draft right now, so that's a 3rd thing to keep an eye on
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 01:34:40 PM
don't get me wrong id rather have the 1 than the 2 but until I hear that there is a darryl strawberry or bryce harper at the top of the draft baseball drafts don't mean much and tracking draft position is futile
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 12, 2015, 03:32:17 PM
pretty sure predicting who will and wont be available in june 2016 is not exactly a smart thing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 12, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
A Met or a Nat.  LOL
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:20:37 PM
If Harper was available is want them to pass. Colossal douchebag and his parents are too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 12, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
For real? I would trade the entire lineup for Bryce Harper without even thinking about it. For that matter, maybe the whole team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Yep I don't like him and haven't since him and his parents had him drop outta high school
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 12, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
I don't particularly like him either, but I do like that he's good at baseball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 12, 2015, 09:15:34 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 12, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
They have the #1 pick in the 2016 draft right now, so that's a 3rd thing to keep an eye on

Watch a Luis Garcia tossing slow pitch softball out there tonight and you'll find a lot to talk about.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 12, 2015, 09:25:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:20:37 PM
If Harper was available is want them to pass. Colossal douchebag and his parents are too

Culture
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on May 12, 2015, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 01:34:40 PM
don't get me wrong id rather have the 1 than the 2 but until I hear that there is a darryl strawberry or bryce harper at the top of the draft baseball drafts don't mean much and tracking draft position is futile
Phils wind up taking someone at #1 who turns into an above average everyday player and someone drafted after him is better - literally every single draft. I really wonder if the #1 pick has ever been the best (or at least arguably) best player of his draft class. I don't agree the baseball draft doesn't mean much but tracking draft position being pointless, I'm with you 100%
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Yep I don't like him and haven't since him and his parents had him drop outta high school

there is, a 1000% chance you would worship the ground he walked on if he was a phillie

mcnabb is one of the all time pieces of shtein and you have done everything but swallow his load....brett myers is a wife beating hillbilly retard. you love him.

dont be hating on the nl mvp
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:30:28 AM
No shot. I'm on record for hating that dickhead and his idiot parents since they pulled that stunt. If he were a Phillie he'd still be a jerkoff to me.

Lolol at mcnabb being an all time piece of shtein. Bedtime for you, pal
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:34:35 AM
bryce harper in phillies jersey instagramming a train disaster with a caption linking it to terrorism
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:40:51 AM
I'd be inconsolable
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 13, 2015, 06:37:13 AM
Believe it or not, since the draft started in 1965, the Phils have had the #1 pick only once.  Pat Burrell in 1998.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 07:37:47 AM
pretty sure I wasn't specifically talking about Bryce Harper but a transcendent overall number one pick who turned into a player

and i despise him but you are a moron if you wouldnt want him on the phils
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
Well I'm a moron then. Do not want. farg that goofball farg
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 08:19:33 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
farg that goofball farg

Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
mcnabb
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 09:03:10 AM
Oh...I didn't know that because McNabb was a corny sob that it means I have to like all corny people?

I know you love Washington and Harper...but its gonna be ok.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
harper isnt goofy....hes just a fleshpop...hes a yeah brah guy in the lenny dykstra mold

the bedwetter was triple goofy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 09:50:44 AM
And most of all an overly self entitled jerkoff

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 09:57:07 AM
harper can eat a fleshpop. mainly because he isnt a phillie.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
hed be an absolute legend in most peoples eyes including j's if he were on the 93 phils
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Harper's what's missing from the current Phillies. I'm not saying he'd make them any better, but at least there'd be a young talented player to watch.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 10:08:52 AM
relax, franco to the rescue.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:22:50 AM
Quote from: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Harper's what's missing from the current Phillies. I'm not saying he'd make them any better, but at least there'd be a young talented player to watch.

hed also add in some attitude....the phillies are milquetoast boring on top of being absolutely wretched.

yea sure hes a fleshpop, but hes 1. not a criminal and 2. awesome. he also plays hard and doesnt give a farg, two things that would make him godly in philly.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 10:23:55 AM
who would want a young ultra talented player when you can win 80 with slop
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.   
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.

less good players, more jeff francour
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 10:38:28 AM
dont worry rome, he's not on the team and never will be so relax those liver spots of yours.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.

Culture
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.

Culture

of losing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.

Why is this hard to understand?

Since he appeared on SI as a 16yr old and his parents pulled that GED stunt I've hated him. So try to paint it anyway you'd like but you're wrong
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.

Why is this hard to understand?


because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 13, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.

less good players, more jeff francour

The Phillies need good players who aren't iceholes just like :CF needs posters who aren't you.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.

Why is this hard to understand?


because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization

Incorrect.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index. 

By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.

less good players, more jeff francour

The Phillies need good players who aren't iceholes just like :CF needs posters who aren't you.

:paranoid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.

Why is this hard to understand?


because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization

Incorrect.

you worshiped brett myers....cheered for dykstra....cheered for billy wagner....are essentially the only person who likes mcnabb.....and there are literally 100000 other examples of you being an unconscionable homer.....but yet you would put your foot down for bryce harper. ok.

i dont blee dat
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
there just isnt a chance in hell that if harper were drafted by the phils j would be making every excuse in the book right now as to why hes not a hatable guy...not sure why you are even continuing this
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 13, 2015, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
not sure why you are even continuing this

really ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on May 13, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
harper is a douche but why is anyone mad at him for getting his GED?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: smeags on May 13, 2015, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
not sure why you are even continuing this

really ?

yea come on...have you been here?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
there just isnt a chance in hell that if harper were drafted by the phils j would be making every excuse in the book right now as to why hes not a hatable guy...not sure why you are even continuing this

Read what I posted again...I don't like the dude. Phillie or not he'd be a dude bro jerkoff who needs to fail in baseball so bile has to get a job with his GED
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
I read it...I don't for a second believe you....I believe you believe it but theres not a chance you would ever hate a good philly athlete
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
Well good thing he will never be a Phillie!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 13, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Bowa on Maikel Franco:

Quote from: Larry BowaYou've got a guy in Triple A that might be as good a third baseman as I've seen — I know in this organization.

Ummmm, Larry...

(http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000086/86276e_med.jpeg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 13, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
Well good thing he will never be a Phillie!

yea, good thing the phillies dont have any good players
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2015, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 13, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Bowa on Maikel Franco:

Quote from: Larry BowaYou've got a guy in Triple A that might be as good a third baseman as I've seen — I know in this organization.

Ummmm, Larry...


Don't lie Geo, you were thnking David Bell.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2015, 09:16:14 PM
Grit at it again.  Sure, he'll work his way out of this.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 13, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
Damn, what a throw by frenchy.  farg Papelbon but that was a sweet play to win it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 13, 2015, 10:43:51 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on May 13, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
Damn, what a throw by frenchy.  farg Papelbon but that was a sweet play to win it.

Yeah, that was a nice play to end the game.  I'd be excited if it actually meant something.

Though it may mean something if some team takes the 'smear off the Phils' hands...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 14, 2015, 04:56:13 PM
Christ, I had Galvis dead to rights a month ago.  Guy gets 3 more hits today.  .353

And than we have Grit.  0-4 today.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 14, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
yeah I was just thinking, it's not too soon to move him at this point.  there's no way dude keeps anything close to this up much longer, so get as much as you can now and sell.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 14, 2015, 06:49:27 PM
Knowing Rube he probably gave him a list of 20 teams he could trade-block in his contract.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 14, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait

he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 14, 2015, 09:07:21 PM
Hurry up and trade him

Can't wait to see which future UPS delivery driver Amaro will get in return.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 14, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
i know you only pay attention to grady sizemore's BA but the returns hes got for jimmy, rubber toe, byrd, etc. have been very well received

and he isnt scouting potential players they could get for harang....in fact he may just go for a PTBNL and they scout from a list for a few weeks, then pick. also hes aaron harang and they arent getting a pile of poop for him because hes aaron harang.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 12:19:43 AM
Oh please show me the way oh wise one. Please enlighten us!

Like you're the only one who pays attention to the minors? Keep ridin for your homie RAJ
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 12:40:06 AM
its nothing to brag about, believe me, bur ive never gotten the sense you care at all about the future or the minors....youre always a here and now guy. win today. hit a homer, jeff francore! go team!

anyway, i will most certainly continue to educate you because you arent doing well in mds' baseball class

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:02:07 AM
That's because the teacher sucks!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 01:10:03 AM
twitter is your teacher
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:16:13 AM
Incorrect.

I know baseball just fine on my own
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
you disqualified yourself when you actually admitted youd rather have odubel herrera on the phils than bryce harper
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:26:59 AM
You find where I said that. Didn't happen.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:29:31 AM
I mean you act like you don't hate good players. So what if I despise that dickhead?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 01:30:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:26:59 AM
You find where I said that. Didn't happen.

would you trade odie for harps straight up?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:49:26 AM
Of course. I hate the icehole but I'm not stupid

I hate Papelbon and he's on the team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 15, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 14, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait

he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang

Cheap veteran arm with playoff experience who's pitching very well. Not saying they're getting a teams top prospect but he's definitely worth a good prospect. Trade him, Hamels, Pap, get the #1 pick in the draft and suddenly there's prospects.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: SD on May 15, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 14, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait

he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang

Cheap veteran arm with playoff experience who's pitching very well. Not saying they're getting a teams top prospect but he's definitely worth a good prospect. Trade him, Hamels, Pap, get the #1 pick in the draft and suddenly there's prospects.

he can get you: a. a future middle reliever; b. a future kyle kendrick clone; c. a 1-tool position player. hes aaron harang. nobody cares that hes put 2 decent months together. there is 10 years of data on him and it all points to the indisputable fact that hes aaron harang.

pap cant get them a ton, but if they agree to eat his contract they can get something. hes really been good and a squad like the astros could use a back end dude.

hamels has been and will always be the guy. its him or nothing.

id love for them to get the 1 (sorry, tex) but they wouldnt get to use that pick until june 2016 and that player wouldnt become a viable prospect until 2018 or 2019. strap on your strap on and strap in....its a long climb to the top.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
for harang to have any real value you need a contending team to have a pitcher go down and get desperate
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 10:16:33 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
for harang to have any real value you need a contending team to have a pitcher go down and get desperate

hes basically what moyer was back in 2007....an improvement over whoever the last guy in the rotation is for that team. the phillies at that point were trotting out scott matheison every 5th day so getting someone like harang would be a nice little deal.

a team can convince itself that hamels will make a difference and win them some games and be a horse in the playoffs. harang wouldnt even be guaranteed to pitch a playoff game if the team he is traded to makes it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
sunny got us free fabulous tenth row tickets to phils nats next saturday

if my math is correct heidi goes which means they actually have a small chance to win and now hopefully also get to see mikey franky
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 02:28:48 PM
Grit dropped to sixth

South jerz contigent gonna riot
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
quiet tex....stop reading your twitter talking points. people have been killing utley. stick to houston sports radio please.

grady sizemore batting 3rd. holy crap. franco 5th.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
farg you and your Twitter talking points! How ya like that?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
alls i know is if you listened to the pulse of the city you would hear people begging utley to retire

or you could regurgitate something you heard in 2012. your call, lone star.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 03:57:18 PM
they want him to retire because they love him so much and cant stand seeing him like this.....which I get actually....but its not like they are saying retire you pos....he will get less boos this year than choke got in 2007
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 15, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
In the fans' defense, in 2007 it actually mattered if a player struck out.

Also, there were fans at the stadium to boo.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
the ones there now somehow summon the energy to boo choke...altho in one of the mets games this year I did hear some grit boo's for the first time in his career
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
choke is getting booed harder that grit because of his contract and his propensity for striking out all the time

his black skin and field negro physique certainly contribute to the perceived hatred, but it really has more to do with his ineffectiveness relative to his salary

utley has been and will always be more popular because he is a good looking firmly shaped american white male who hustles all the time.

i dont expect a knee jerk bleeding heart or some dude from texas who cries whenever one of his hero athletes gets booed to understand this, but thats the truth
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
why were gawd and choke getting booed in mvp years?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Because...well, we know why.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
why were gawd and choke getting booed in mvp years?

i dont really remember that happening, but pat burrell was definitely booed and he is literally the most handsome man ever

the choke stuff started in 12 i think...right when his contract kicked in, his production dropped and the team started sucking royally.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Because...well, we know why.

because it didnt happen
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
one million percent happened
just because you choose to have your head in the sand doesn't mean it didn't occur
no one watches this stuff closer than me

and lol at using burrell as an example...he got booed cause he sucked
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think

lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial

choke would literally hit two homers and five rbi on friday then strikeout three times on Saturday and get booed
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think

lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial

there are frustration boos for any and all things....baseball is the sport where it's the most obvious because when someone strikes out 1000% of the focus is on them. i dont recall venomous choke hatred until 12.

his production really started slipping in 10 and 11 but even then it wasnt bad. in fact when his extension was announced, i think in 09, everyone was happy. the national media killed it but the phillies army defended it. 07-11 was really a south jersey love affair on the squad.

i love you for being a knee jerk bleeding heart but you go crazy for this kind of stuff and it really wasnt that bad. j is 1000% about a hero of his getting booed...same as mcnabb same as anyone.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
jimmy I can even understand after he ripped the city (before he did that I don't get it)....that falls into the Schmidt kind of booing...of course they never said Schmidt was shiftless or lazy...but choke was nothing other than the ultimate upstanding citizen who carried the phillie torch as well as anyone ever has and said all the right things
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think

lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial

there are frustration boos for any and all things

never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
jimmy I can even understand after he ripped the city (before he did that I don't get it)....that falls into the Schmidt kind of booing...of course they never said Schmidt was shiftless or lazy...but choke was nothing other than the ultimate upstanding citizen who carried the phillie torch as well as anyone ever has and said all the right things

he strikes out 150+ times a year...almost unequivocally on its own thats going to frustrate people

i never doubted that his color had something to do with it. hes a big black man. theres going to be negative attention because of that. but the hate really had more to do with the contract than anything. when you go 5/125 and your production craters youre going to get killed. even if your body is letting you down and even if you are a class act.

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career

hes more popular and more beloved. nobody is doubting that. the most beloved eagle almost ever is b dawk who is crispy as hell. come on.

and choke's fielding improved in the sense that he went from awful to not as awful. he was never good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
grit was never good either....they both worked equally as hard to get better and both did...one was worshipped for it and the other was booooooooed

and stop using straw man arguments like pat burrell and dawk.....this is about double standards not about equal opportunity booing...we know the city boo's its athletes...this is not breaking news
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
post-12 everyone has definitely been harder on choke. sure. its been a little unfair, but his 5/125 is what it is.

between 07-11 there were some stuff here and there....big deal....more or less the players were walking on water and everything was lovey dovey. 

but omg the hustling gritty white is more beloved that the slugging negro. alert the aclu!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 15, 2015, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career

I do recall the stare down Heidi gave him in the 2009? NLCS at Dodger Stadium when McGritty booted a ball, may have been two actually.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 15, 2015, 07:31:16 PM
Franco grounds out to third first at bat.  He sucks.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think

lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial

choke would literally hit two homers and five rbi on friday then strikeout three times on Saturday and get booed

Yep.

And then on WIP fans would call in and lament that he struck out against a lefty who ate him up with sliders away. He was routinely ripped and booed.

Jimmy had a phenomenal run of years and he would catch boos for striking out or because he didn't walk. And the Voice of The People's airwaves would be lit with kenzo mouthbreathers ripping him because he had the audacity to pencil himself into the lead off spot and not be Juan Pierre of 2003.

farg outta here with the "they never got booed shtein"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 07:55:44 PM
im fighting with a drama queen bleeding heart and the most anti-philly homer athlete cock slobberer in recorder history

no point
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
lolol you can try to soften it all you want but...and it's ok to admit this...you're wrong.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 09:47:55 PM
Come on, guys:  Chase doesn't suck... he's just unlucky! (http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/chase-utley-has-had-worst-luck-all-baseball)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
lolol you can try to soften it all you want but...and it's ok to admit this...you're wrong.

yea, im not

lifes been pretty good for choke and jimmy.....and grit. they arent victims. they are highly paid adult men who play a childs game. stop hero worshiping them.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
No one is hero worshipping.

Igy and I are stating facts on this one. You couldn't be more wrong on this one if you tried. Your disdain and contempt for people being fans is funny
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
The drop-off was dramatic for Utley and Howard... maybe more like a bunch of athletes from the 1980s and before... well, before the steroids era.  Rollins has slowed down a bit, but much more gradual than the other two.  They basically fell off a cliff, especially Howard.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
The drop-off was dramatic for Utley and Howard... maybe more like a bunch of athletes from the 1980s and before... well, before the steroids era.  Rollins has slowed down a bit, but much more gradual than the other two.  They basically fell off a cliff, especially Howard.

yea but howard got booed so  :-[ it makes me sad we should cheer him  ;D go phillies

they all got old fast but apparently theyve all been public enemies since 2007
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 10:13:04 PM
Three in a row!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 10:18:00 PM
All-Star Freddy would not be denied. 

Nice save by Garcia.  First two-inning save since... 2009 I think T-Mac said.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 15, 2015, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 10:18:00 PM
All-Star Freddy would not be denied. 

Nice save by Garcia.  First two-inning save since... 2009 I think T-Mac said.

ryan madson

who actually is pitching this year for the first time since 2011
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 10:38:09 PM
Wonder if his wife is bitching about living in KC?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 16, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117794383&sid=t534

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 16, 2015, 10:51:16 PM
The Diamondbacks just intentionally walked Utley.   :-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:58 AM
@MLBNetworkRadio: Luhnow on Hamels: I've talked to Ruben...When it comes to big names on the market, we're at least going to see what the asking price is

It'll never happen...but Carlos Correa please
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:00:43 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 12:05:30 PM
this will end well
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:58 AM
@MLBNetworkRadio: Luhnow on Hamels: I've talked to Ruben...When it comes to big names on the market, we're at least going to see what the asking price is

It'll never happen...but Carlos Correa please

oh no...houston feelin houston.

focus on the pitching from the astros system. i know the astros are your squad and all but theres this jp crawford guy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 12:50:15 PM
1000% if anyone but roob was gm

50/50 with roob as gm
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?

Havas is right...50/50 with Amaro calling the shots.

And mds...since you're a connoisseur of minor league baseball I'd expect you to know how good Correa has been. Stop homering it up for JP Crawford.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 17, 2015, 01:34:49 PM
I'm still waiting for Philly luck to rear its ugly head and Hamels' UCL snap.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 01:38:38 PM
im still waiting for them to be sold
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
todays giveaway


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Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 04:40:29 PM
fiiiiive in a row

Lil guy mad as hell right now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?

Havas is right...50/50 with Amaro calling the shots.

And mds...since you're a connoisseur of minor league baseball I'd expect you to know how good Correa has been. Stop homering it up for JP Crawford.

i never said he wasnt good....just that you have one of the best prospects in baseball in your own system

if you can pull off a trade for hamels with houston, id look more at their pitching and especially getting santana back. a corner OF who can hit in the middle of the order is precisely what this team needs.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
Amaro would try to get Singleton back watch
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 17, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
o'sullivan getting jacked in the throat by a toss-back might be the most entertaining thing i've seen all year from these losers.

and five in a row is pretty much the worst thing that can happen.  any sign of a pulse further delays the inevitable.   fire ruben or gtfo.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
Amaro would try to get Singleton back watch

whatever they do, amaro will be wrong but it won't matter because the phillies will still win 80 because they are my most favoritest team leggooooo sports
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:16:59 PM
Stick in the mud.

lil guy is the guy who'd win the lotto and bitch about taxes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 05:23:26 PM
they won 5 in a row! its awesome! im with you! goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 17, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 17, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
o'sullivan getting jacked in the throat by a toss-back might be the most entertaining thing i've seen all year from these losers.

and five in a row is pretty much the worst thing that can happen.  any sign of a pulse further delays the inevitable.   fire ruben or gtfo.

i want them to win two games the rest of the year cause ill be there...saturday in washington and june 13th at the mets
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
Billingsley to the DL with a shoulder strain - Hector Neris will make the start
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 17, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
Between the payout the Dodgers gave him to go away and the money Ruben gave him to sign, Billingsley will make the princely sum of ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS per start (presuming he doesn't throw another pitch this year).

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 17, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
cliff lee hasnt thrown a pitch since last july and hes making 25 mil this year

in fact hes not even with the team....hes getting paid to rock out in arkansas

thats more amazing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 18, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
What a scumbag

http://thebiglead.com/2015/05/17/awful-phillies-fan-rips-ball-away-from-old-lady/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 18, 2015, 08:27:42 AM
total cockface.

of course this will make the rounds on all the major media outlets and once again hand the crown as worst fans, right back to philly.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 18, 2015, 12:07:47 PM
Did that ever belong to someone else?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 18, 2015, 12:58:37 PM
If she wanted it, she should have fought harder.  Weak ass *white* bitch.

* edited for clarity *
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 18, 2015, 01:14:32 PM
typical philly fan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 18, 2015, 10:37:21 PM
Oh dear lord is Matt Stairs homerism sickening.  Grit batting "What you say?  Home run here?" I could go on but I won't.

More bums fans in Denver tonight than Rockies fans.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 18, 2015, 11:35:56 PM
sandberg is insanely awful....such a horrible manager but the perfect man for the job
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 18, 2015, 11:59:17 PM
SIX IN A ROW...AH AH AH

that sound you heard was lil guy firing his Bill James Bible through his tv set
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 12:09:43 AM
i dont understand what that means

im mad that they won...the win defies some kind of advanced metric mindset...so i threw my non existent sabr book at a tv? you drunk tex
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 12:11:36 AM
it means you hate the Phillies and sit around reading fairy tale baseball stat books

No drinking on a Monday night
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 12:11:36 AM
it means you hate the Phillies and sit around reading fairy tale baseball stat books

thats it, you got me
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 19, 2015, 06:17:56 AM
The Phils are impersonating an actual major league team!  Fun to see.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 19, 2015, 07:09:14 AM
But leave it to pap smear to almost choke it away.  Rockies may be worse than the bums. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 19, 2015, 07:23:43 AM
If nothing else Hamels is pitching like a legit major league starter now albeit against laughable competition.  Hopefully some dopey team comes along and unloads a dumptruck full of beans for Roob to scoop up for him.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2015, 08:26:47 AM
paps has been fantastic too....some contender is going to need a closer/late inning bullpen help and over pay for him

dont tell j about all these trades tho...hes not ready to give up on this season
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 19, 2015, 09:11:34 AM
80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 19, 2015, 09:19:20 AM
hittin season.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
after tonight they're next 3 starters are

sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS

80!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 19, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?

hopefully hamels goes as well. then release howard and utley. time to move on from that run ... finally. even for you. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
after tonight they're next 3 starters are

sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS

80!

heidi goes saturday
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: smeags on May 19, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?

hopefully hamels goes as well. then release howard and utley. time to move on from that run ... finally. even for you.

QuoteRyan Howard last 25 games: .287/.347/.598, 12 extra-base hits, 17 RBIs.

Slugging 77 points higher this season than collective AL DHs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 10:27:20 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
after tonight they're next 3 starters are

sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS

80!

they're
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 10:37:35 AM
as in there going to win all 3 of those games because their the best team in baseball
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 19, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
roob sees light at the end of the tunnel.  no one tell him it's an oncoming locomotive.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 19, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
 :-D

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
Gonna hit the seven in a row tonight boys!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:20:48 PM
motherfarging Maikel Francoooooooooooooooooooo

throwing him a first pitch heater is a gift

legooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:41:14 PM
farging DeFratus...2 out hanging slider.

That and Ruiz hitting into the DP and them not scoring in the 1st is a killer
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 19, 2015, 11:47:03 PM
farging Chooch.  And farg you Giles.

Franco, Herrera, Galvis there is hope for 2017.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 19, 2015, 11:51:59 PM
Sorry, meant De Fratus.  farg um' all actually.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 19, 2015, 11:52:58 PM
Season over!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 19, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
feels like game 5 of the 2011 nlds all over again

crushed
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:56:06 PM
Skip Baymds chiming in...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 20, 2015, 06:35:35 AM
Was watching the hockey game, and tuned in just in time to see DeFratus give up the home run.

The Fightin' Phils.  In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 20, 2015, 10:22:57 PM
LA is losing his mind that Severino has been lifted after 64 pitches.

He's on a roll...talking about how he got yelled at in the minors as a pitching coach for leaving Matt Beech in through the 7th when he'd have over 100 pitches.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 21, 2015, 05:15:18 AM
LA in TV booth when?  Stairs is horrible.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 21, 2015, 07:28:50 AM
Stark was on with Miss yesterday and said teams are starting to take an interest in Howard. MOVE HIM for the love of God. I can see Amaro holding onto him because he thinks he's back his 2008 form.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2015, 07:31:57 AM
This exactly. Thanks for the memories, Choje & Grit.  Now gtfo. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 07:28:50 AM
Stark was on with Miss yesterday and said teams are starting to take an interest in Howard. MOVE HIM for the love of God. I can see Amaro holding onto him because he thinks he's back his 2008 form.

unless im missing something tampa and anaheim are the only 2 teams he makes any kind of sense for. seattle and bodymore are big maybes. i cant see an NL team making a move for him.

id love for them to move him, of course, but im not sure if itll even work.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:03:07 AM
if he keeps hitting like this it will work itself out just fine.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 10:12:57 AM
you mean if they eat a ton of his salary it will work out fine
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
of course, pretty sure the team knows that and accepted it already. his performance, or lack thereof, has been the holdup.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 10:36:14 AM
salary is a major issue...its not about the fact that the phils have to eat some...its how much are they willing to do....and thus far thats been a sticking point

they could have traded him before this hot streak if they had hit the magic number on money
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:48:08 AM
im not so sure on that with the way he was playing before the streak. i mean what teams were trying to get him ?

either way it still ties to his performance. the better he plays the more another team will be willing to pay him out of their own pockets. there's some real interest now. they need to listen, take the best they can get, pay what the have to pay and move him.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:00:07 AM
Stark said they could probably get a B level prospect and maybe have to eat less money, he didn't say how much though. Amaro thinks they're going on a run though so he'll hold onto everyone.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.

I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
Quote from: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:48:08 AM
im not so sure on that with the way he was playing before the streak. i mean what teams were trying to get him ?

either way it still ties to his performance. the better he plays the more another team will be willing to pay him out of their own pockets. there's some real interest now. they need to listen, take the best they can get, pay what the have to pay and move him.

both factor in but its way more about the contract.....he could be playing horribly but if he didnt cost any money or minimal money a team will always take a flyer on someone with his pedigree
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.

I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.

stop. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2015, 12:42:50 PM
These little spurts make it bearable.  I just want the rebuild to start already.  I can deal with the losing if there's winning somewhere in the future. 

None of this matters if Amaro is still in charge, though.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.

I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.

thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 01:24:24 PM
stop. please. no farging WC run. blow it up !

cut the '08 cord and move on.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2015, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
of course, pretty sure the team knows that and accepted it already. his performance, or lack thereof, has been the holdup.

its nice, but its roughly a month.....he needs to be around this level in jewlie

anything they get for revere, choke or pap is gravy to me. they do it, great. they dont, whatever. i accepted those as lost causes years ago. its all about the hamels deal and it always has been.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
they need to move harang stat before that old farger comes back down to earth
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
agreed on getting what they can get for those guys. especially howard, thats why i say move him now if there's legit interest. i dont trust that he wont be back to being a strikeout mchine. if stark is right about a B level prospect, take it. he's only in the way at this point. move them all.

hamels is the key when it comes to having any realisitic return.

again though, smug.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on May 21, 2015, 02:32:03 PM
I think they can get a good prospect for pap if they eat some $.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.

I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.

thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure

I can have it both ways

I'm 100% for trading Harang/Hamels/Grit/Howard/Paps/Chooch/Revere and whoever else might be worth a damn. But they're probably not moving any of those players till the deadline because they'll get max value at that point unless someone comes along with an offer they can't refuse or another team suffers a major injury. If any of those players are worth shtein now by all means get rid of them, I just don't think a team is suddenly going to ante up because of a 2 week spurt. So it's win/win, if they can make it interesting and contend for a WC (I don't have my hopes up, I'm not J, I'm a realist, but lets play optimist here) then great. If not they hold a fire sale. I still don't see Reuben holding a fire sale. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
they need to move harang stat before that old farger comes back down to earth

Pretty sure he's on PEDs

But yeah move that farger asap, Stark said the teams he's talked to said he's their most tradeable commodity even over Hamels.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 21, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:57:04 PMBut yeah move that farger asap, Stark said the teams he's talked to said he's their most tradeable commodity even over Hamels.

that makes sense....they cant get a ton for him because hes aaron harang, but essentially every contending team could use him except for the nats. everyone always needs pitching.

the only way theyre going to expedite the rebuild process and start a path toward Contention: 2017 is hitting on a hamels deal.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 21, 2015, 03:14:05 PM
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Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 21, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
Agreed...

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Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 21, 2015, 05:58:11 PM
Nice crash landing today.  Looking like the bums we expected.  Jerome Williams needs to retire.  Maybe his goal is to be on every staff in the big leagues before he retires.  Hell, I swear he's pitched for half.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 21, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.

Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard.  They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob.  Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.

I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.

thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure

I can have it both ways

I'm 100% for trading Harang/Hamels/Grit/Howard/Paps/Chooch/Revere and whoever else might be worth a damn. But they're probably not moving any of those players till the deadline because they'll get max value at that point unless someone comes along with an offer they can't refuse or another team suffers a major injury. If any of those players are worth shtein now by all means get rid of them, I just don't think a team is suddenly going to ante up because of a 2 week spurt. So it's win/win, if they can make it interesting and contend for a WC (I don't have my hopes up, I'm not J, I'm a realist, but lets play optimist here) then great. If not they hold a fire sale. I still don't see Reuben holding a fire sale.

oh right its one or the other....I misunderstood you and thought you wanted them to be contending at the trade deadline but still trade everyone
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 21, 2015, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 21, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.

Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.

Yep.  Loved the little 7 out of 8 streak, great to see them win but good lord, we could pick 25 random people off this board and take 7 of 8 from the Dbacks and Rockies.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 22, 2015, 09:01:49 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on May 21, 2015, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 21, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.

Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.

Yep.  Loved the little 7 out of 8 streak, great to see them win but good lord, we could pick 25 random people off this board and take 7 of 8 from the Dbacks and Rockies.

i'm playing 1B !
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2015, 02:25:33 PM
P matty - a little out there, a little shady, but that makes a good pitcher. you know the moment wont get to him because he'll probably be on something during it
C romey - only way to keep matty focused out there
1B igy - i like a big target at first
2B sb - obvs
SS sunmo - the undisputed leader
3B rjs - good reaction time
LF smeags - meathead masher position
CF mds - covers ground, has big penis
RF sd - strong arm from beating women.
DH j - multitasking not one of his strong suits, will provide expert cheerleading on the bench when on defense

Coaches
geo - smart man, knows how to fill out a lineup card, too old to play
donho - cooky bench coach who might or might not know where he is, too old to play

Bat Boy
munson - can go to trailer park and come back with tons of dip and chew
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 22, 2015, 04:39:40 PM
Hamels vetoed a trade Toronto
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 22, 2015, 05:23:45 PM
Any word on what the return would've been?

And I play 1B, son.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on May 22, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
Yeah I'm definitely a defensive bench OFer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 22, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: SD on May 22, 2015, 04:39:40 PM
Hamels vetoed a trade Toronto

if i read it correctly there was no official "trade," but merely some informal talks that were shut down because hamels didnt want to go there. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 23, 2015, 02:44:16 AM
Todd, that lineup is farging hilarious! 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 23, 2015, 08:32:11 AM
Don Ho and I are "too old to play," but Romey's behind the plate... he's older than both of us!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 23, 2015, 09:31:46 AM
I stopped playing softball in 2011 when my knee finally gave out.

The closest I get to playing now is wiffleball tournaments in the driveway. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 23, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
And ftr I still smash the ball because I use electrical tape on the bat.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/jerome99rip/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsflbubxge.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 23, 2015, 10:19:55 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 23, 2015, 08:32:11 AM
Don Ho and I are "too old to play," but Romey's behind the plate... he's older than both of us!

henry blanco played until he was 42

mike matheny was  a manager at 41

some guys just still have it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 23, 2015, 05:33:39 PM
Choke is on fire
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 23, 2015, 05:34:36 PM
franco's oppo shot was terrific

if he's gonna show that he's gonna be a keeper
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 24, 2015, 10:37:00 AM
greatest game ever
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 24, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
With his 0-4 today,Dom Brown is hitting .243 for Lehigh Valley and has not homered in his last 140 at bats
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 25, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2015/05/24/ryne-sandberg-upset-with-the-nationals-batting-practice-music-and-times/?postshare=5291432497979657 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2015/05/24/ryne-sandberg-upset-with-the-nationals-batting-practice-music-and-times/?postshare=5291432497979657)

OK, now you're reaching Ryan. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 25, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Saw that on Facebook the other day.  Just exhibiting a loser attitude.  Think they're tweaking you during batting practice - take it out on the other team.  Don't bitch about it to the press.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 26, 2015, 10:42:34 AM
all you fans do is bitch and complain. you dont know the game.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on May 26, 2015, 12:22:32 PM
Didn't realize that Ryu had gone out for the season in LA. Wouldn't mind Hamels bringing back Corey Seager.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 26, 2015, 01:14:03 PM
RAJ is too stupid for words...he's ripping fans for 'not understanding the game'...takes WS turns it into a last place team and signs god awful contracts. There's nothing close to a cornerstone player in the minors. Very hard to understand. It's funny the sox/cards/Giants of the world had good teams and kept competitive.

http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/05/26/philadelphia-phillies-ruben-amaro-rips-fans
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 26, 2015, 01:21:31 PM
was he doing a joe banner impersonation there ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2015, 05:14:15 PM
amaro's not wrong...the fans are morons, as is all of talk radio and most of the media when it comes to baseball....but as someone who sucks and is a fleshpop he should complain about the fans
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 26, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Amaro is a smug, dismissive, arrogant douchebag of epic proportions.   The major league team is terrible, old, and completely disgusting to watch while the minor league "talent" is mediocre at best.  He's taken a World Series winner with a nearly unlimited payroll and turned it into a cellar-dwelling laughingstock, yet he has the audacity to attack the fans for expressing displeasure? 

We know all of this.  This is not news.  This team and its ownership are a farging joke and it's going to take a whole lot more than the firing of this jerkoff to get it back to relevance.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 26, 2015, 05:14:15 PM
amaro's not wrong...the fans are morons, as is all of talk radio and most of the media when it comes to baseball....but as someone who sucks and is a fleshpop he should complain about the fans

You accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?

It's asanine to say that about your fan base no matter what team you're a coach/gm of, but it's especially idiotic when your team might lose 100 games. Miss interviewed him, he first apologized for his choice of words, then he made a ton of excuses for why he held onto players for too long, even though Miss asked him 2 years ago if he was making a mistake holding onto players for too long. He admitted the direction he took the team in was wrong but said they now have s new approach.

No lie anyone who posts in this thread could have done a better job than he did over the past 5 seasons. He doesn't see trends, doesn't know talent, can't draft, and waited way too long to hit the oversees market.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 26, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PMYou accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?

im in a very small % of highly educated fans....i know this and i dont really care what the gm says. if the team was good it would be a 2 second deal and everyone would go back to the game at hand. since the team stinks, it will be a week long deal because nobody cares about how jerome williams is going to do tonight.

Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
No lie anyone who posts in this thread could have done a better job than he did over the past 5 seasons.

not anyone
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 26, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 26, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PMYou accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?

im in a very small % of highly educated fans....i know this and i dont really care what the gm says.

Lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 26, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
It takes a high baseball IQ to run a team, but it takes a significantly lower baseball IQ to figure out that Amaro can't run a team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 26, 2015, 06:49:08 PM
A corpse with a rusty ice-pick sticking out of its ear hole could figure that out.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 26, 2015, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 26, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
It takes a high baseball IQ to run a team, but it takes a significantly lower baseball IQ to figure out that Amaro can't run a team.

See Jerome Williams
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 26, 2015, 09:32:02 PM
Nice comeback by bums.  4 in the 8th but Giles melts like a stick of butter on Waikiki Beach in August.  Walk, double, men on 2 & 3, no outs.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on May 26, 2015, 10:30:28 PM
Mets little bitches this season. 

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 26, 2015, 10:34:27 PM
It's all good Rube has a plan
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 26, 2015, 11:25:28 PM
My Plan for the Phillies
By Reuben Amaro Jr.

1. Trade Cliff Lee for Mike Trout or some minor league guy who is super good like that.
1. Trade Cole Hamels for Mike Trout or some minor league guy who is super good like that.
2. Dom Brown -- this is his year, baby!!
3. Other teams undervalue old guys... find some experienced 40-something guys to lead us! Late 30s at youngest.
4. When in doubt sign a slap hitting Hispanic no one's ever heard of. He could be the next me!!
5. Finalize list of drugs I can put in other GMs' food to make them more receptive to the Howard contract.
6. When agents and GMs and other scary people start using confusing numbers again, ask Pat what to do! -- VERY IMPORTANT
7.  Just go get a whole bunch of really good players. <note to self: fill in details later>
8. If Howard and Utley heat up, DON'T TRADE ANYBODY, we might win W.S. AGAIN !!!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2015, 12:06:02 AM
franco with a big RBI hit and a terrific defensive play

the other 494304 plays in the game mean dick
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
todays game is extra sickening seeing syndegard....the mets got him and d'arnaud for ra farging dicky and now have THREE young arms at the big league level better than any pitcher/prospect at any level for the phillies (other than heidi) and that doesnt even include zach wheeler
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2015, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
todays game is extra sickening seeing syndegard....the mets got him and d'arnaud for ra farging dicky and now have THREE young arms at the big league level better than any pitcher/prospect at any level for the phillies (other than heidi) and that doesnt even include zach wheeler

tommy joseph has a concussion
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 27, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
syndergard is a beast
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on May 27, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
you dont understand the process. all you fans do is bitch and complain.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on May 27, 2015, 08:25:09 PM
It's hard when you have to draft at the end of the first round every year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 27, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
matt adams out 3-4 months....probably the season

makes a ton of sense to send choke home

here's what they got: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/index.jsp?c_id=stl#list=stl

grichuck is the ML ready one but they have no chance at him for just choke. none of their position players fit, so youre probably looking at a young arm that would be 2-3 years away.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phillycrew on May 28, 2015, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 27, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
matt adams out 3-4 months....probably the season

makes a ton of sense to send choke home

here's what they got: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/index.jsp?c_id=stl#list=stl

grichuck is the ML ready one but they have no chance at him for just choke. none of their position players fit, so youre probably looking at a young arm that would be 2-3 years away.
Do it.  Eat some salary and get a young arm.  I have really enjoyed Howard and what he has done for the franchise but the rebuild has to begin.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 28, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: phillycrew on May 28, 2015, 10:24:56 AM
but the rebuild had to begin three years ago
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on May 29, 2015, 07:15:50 AM
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/off-mic/&id=305408101

Nothing we haven't all said here but it's refreshing to see a quasi-journalist put it down on the record for once.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 29, 2015, 02:31:28 PM
not that any of it matters, but they DFA'd sizemore and kept francore and andres farging blanco.

sizemore was playing essentially every day and was even hitting 3rd last week. now hes out of a job. what a dumb organization.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Whatevs.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 29, 2015, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Whatevs.

80?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2015, 12:17:51 AM
JP to reading

a good month before i anticipated. hes 20 and he should be up in about a year. hold tight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 30, 2015, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2015, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 29, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Whatevs.

80?

Minus 10
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 30, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2015, 02:31:28 PM
not that any of it matters, but they DFA'd sizemore and kept francore and andres farging blanco.

sizemore was playing essentially every day and was even hitting 3rd last week. now hes out of a job. what a dumb organization.

Ashe was also brought back up.  Apparently he's going to be the new left fielder.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2015, 10:25:32 AM
it doesnt matter who its for....theres such a disconnect in reality in this organization. asche stinks anyway.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 30, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
who has a better "plan"

hinkie magic or raj
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
thats not even a fair question
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on May 30, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
who has a better "plan"

hinkie magic or raj

Hinkie by default, because RAJ has no plan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on May 30, 2015, 01:59:31 PM
https://youtu.be/WdNsltQXTVU
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on May 30, 2015, 06:29:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on May 31, 2015, 07:08:33 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 30, 2015, 06:29:13 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 01, 2015, 04:23:09 AM
Swept at home to that POS known as the Rockies with one of the worst staffs in the NL.  These numbnuts muster up 4 farging runs, one of which was unearned, in the series.  Special.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2015, 04:38:14 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 01, 2015, 04:23:09 AM
Swept at home to that POS known as the Rockies with one of the worst staffs in the NL.  These numbnuts muster up 4 farging runs, one of which was unearned, in the series.  Special.

80?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
this is great....from the inky today

Of course, Amaro is also the same guy who thinks teams tend to "over-covet" prospects, and has called prospect ranks "a bunch of crap" (I suspect mostly because the Phillies appear near the bottom of the list).

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:20:48 PM
motherfarging Maikel Francoooooooooooooooooooo

throwing him a first pitch heater is a gift

legooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 01, 2015, 02:40:19 PM
is that .194 maikel franco?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 01, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
cant throw that dude a first pitch heater
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 01, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Oh look at lil guy trying to be funny....except he was bowing at the Franco alter while back
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 02, 2015, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:03:35 PM
Utley is awful at the plate right now

That pitch he swung and missed on was a hanging spinner and he missed

i cant copy the "80 wins, pal" post every time. gotta change it up, you know
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 03, 2015, 11:45:26 PM
Franco.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 04, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
?-crawford-?-?-franco-?-?-?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 04, 2015, 08:07:02 AM
Middle in fastballs probably need to stay clear of Franco's bat.   For their own sake. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 04, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
turning point of the season.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 04, 2015, 08:37:35 PM
Nice to see Harang's stock plummet.  He looks like dog shtein tonight.  Some great defense has kept this from really getting ugly.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 04, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
He was due for a bad outing but yeah they should sell high
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 04, 2015, 08:51:01 PM
nobodys stock rises or falls based on 1 outing you fossil

theres nothing to sell high...its june 4....theres no market for anyone, specifically bottom of the rotation geezers like aaron harang
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 04, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
Let's be honest he ain't pitching better than he did up to this point so there's nowhere to go but down. Stark said a lot of teams have interest.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 04, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
teams have interest but nobody is pulling the trigger yet....its june 4....hes aaron harang. 2 good months isnt convicing anyone otherwise. stop obsessing over this worthless trade of a worthless player.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 04, 2015, 09:09:10 PM
Ok rube
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 04, 2015, 10:07:41 PM
The internet GM said no markets exist in June!

I told him he was wrong too...but him admitting it is not happening. Teams definitely wouldn't trade for him if the GM drummed up a faux market...you know...but nevermind teams just wait until July 28th to begin talks!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 04, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
Diekman sent down

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 04, 2015, 10:20:14 PM
name me the last time a low-end SP was started in late may/early june

teams arent sure if theyre in or out....if they need pitching or not....theres 45 games between now and the week before the deadline. nobody knows shtein yet. youre literally making things up because you hate roob.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 05, 2015, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: MDS on June 04, 2015, 10:20:14 PM
name me the last time a low-end SP was started in late may/early june

how bout yesterday asshat ? BOOM.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 06, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Aaron Harang is 6'7

Never knew this
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 06, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: SD on June 06, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Aaron Harang is 6'7

Never knew this

Wide?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 06, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
freddie g on a sweet 0-29 clip
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 06, 2015, 06:20:14 PM
holy shtein baumgarner threw 98 pitches and 78 were strikes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 06, 2015, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 06, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: SD on June 06, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Aaron Harang is 6'7

Never knew this

Wide?

:-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
if milwaukee can pull out a win today and the phillies lose then phils move into a tie for worst record in baseball
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 07, 2015, 06:00:00 PM
Quote from: Rome on June 04, 2015, 08:07:02 AM
Middle in fastballs probably need to stay clear of Franco's bat.   For their own sake.

They ain't listening.

That shot to dead center was a rocket.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 07, 2015, 07:10:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
if milwaukee can pull out a win today and the phillies lose then phils move into a tie for worst record in baseball

0-for-2 today, igy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 07:16:56 PM
oh well....a man can dream
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
cody asche has 6 rbis

its june 7
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
franco has six hr
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 09:15:36 PM
jp crawford games - 9
jp crawford walks - 8
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
when does the jp crawford/franco combo start making mlb power moves

2018?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 09:25:36 PM
crawford will be up by sept 2016....its 2017 if hes a ROY type player, 2018 if not

obviously the bigs are different level but hes adapted to AA like its nothing. franco is someone who struggled at first when he got to a new level.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
2018 will be francos third full season and crawfords second....cant see them making real moves in the league as a duo before that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 09:37:14 PM
it depends who the gm is

godforbid if its still roob i see him getting desperate in 17. if they bring in someone new they will be hinkie magic patient and might wait until 19 or 20.

its way far out but carlos gomez is a 17 FA and alex cobb is an 18 FA. after 16 phillies have more money than god.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
pipe dream but hopefully they will be sold by then or at worst JSM has full control
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 09:56:11 PM
they arent being sold....either middleton takes control or things stay in the shady way they are now

the good thing is something has to give. that fossil gillick is done after this year and roob's contract is up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 09:58:31 PM
i want comcast to buy them so bad
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
i just want them to hire a president from the outside....who will then hire a gm from the outside and get rid of all the old farts in the scouting department and in the front office like charlie, dallas green, gillick
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 10:03:30 PM
yeah thats goes without saying and by definition new ownership will accomplish that....but comcast would put them on a level with the big boys...of course you still gotta hire the right people to steer the ship but it would be a good starting point to have roberts coin behind them...and its a philly company
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
the current owners arent afraid to spend money...i dont get why that narrative still exists

spending is not an issue for this team. spending smartly certainly is.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 10:13:05 PM
not sure where in my post i said they dont spend money....you are trying to hit 2006 talking points

what im saying is spending money is one thing....having yankees red sox money is another
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
i dont understand your point.

whats the difference between being really rich and spending 200 mil and being incredibly rich and spending 200 mil?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 10:18:03 PM
a lot....when you are big boy rich you can make mistakes and eat them....you also can spend even when you dont have attendance to back it up...you also can eat luxury tax
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 07, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
yea i just dont see how its a big deal
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
trust me its significant....and i didnt even mention the investment in your scouting system...especially internationally
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 08, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
phils drafted some black dude from georgia named cornelius

IN
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 08, 2015, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 08, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
phils drafted some black dude from georgia named cornelius

IN

SS Cornelius Randolph from Griffin HS
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 08, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
Third baseman of the future, you heard it here.  Oh, and T Mac said so.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2015, 08:36:54 PM
LF they said a little bit ago
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 08, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
Hope this kid can hit.  farging shtein show loads the bases and el zilch-O.  What a sloppy mess.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 08, 2015, 10:06:37 PM
Hamels lost to the Reds
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 08, 2015, 10:11:00 PM
He was distracted by the U.S. Women's World Cup match.  Give the guy a break, bro.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 08, 2015, 10:25:10 PM
love how they specifically said corny is playing lf...not corner of....not "we'll see".....not "somewhere in the infield"

the exact position they moved asche to a month ago. that 280 obp aint holding up?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 08, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Ke'Bryan Hayes, son of Charlie, went with pick #32 to Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 08, 2015, 11:37:24 PM
Phils pick Arizona 2B Scott Kingery at #48 in the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 09, 2015, 09:19:59 AM
Future starts now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 09, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round.  The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.

Smuggest guys in the room.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 09, 2015, 09:53:45 AM
you don't understand the process.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
two words: anthony hewitt
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 09, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 09, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round.  The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.

Smuggest guys in the room.

thats one piece of information....others had him as the highest ranked HS bat

its a high risk/high reward move. most draft picks dont pan out anyway, HS kids less so. the other option was to take a nola-type college pitcher that could project in a mid rotation starter. they went with the high upside player that could project into a middle of the order bat, but will probably wind up being larry greene.

if either him or jhaylin ortiz hit then they've done it right.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports.  Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 09, 2015, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
two words: anthony hewitt

Exactly what I thought when they were talking about him
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 09, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports.  Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.

he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director

the scapegoated marty wolevor picked JP and Nola with his last 2 firsts, and he was the idiot that pushed all those high-upside athletes that all failed. your first point was right....the whole thing is a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 09, 2015, 11:46:51 AM
at least they'll be picking in the top 2 or 3 next year.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 12:39:12 PM
they better farging be picking at one next year

guaranteed its going to be the worst draft of the last 25 years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 09, 2015, 01:32:41 PM
so many brutal draft picks. yeah, it's crapshoot, i get that. ,funny though how certain teams seem to keep hittting while the phils' picks flop.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 09, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: smeags on June 09, 2015, 01:32:41 PM
so many brutal draft picks. yeah, it's crapshoot, i get that. ,funny though how certain teams seem to keep hittting while the phils' picks flop.

they were flopping because of the approach. the phillies were taking athletes first and baseball players second. its a high risk/high reward way of doing things. last year they took almost all college players, which was a kneejerk reaction to the previous failures. this year they are simply going "best bat available."

corny is a pure ballplayer. whether he can hit or not is anyone's guess but he's not the same type of player they went after when they drafted hewitt and greene.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 12:39:12 PM
guaranteed its going to be the worst draft of the last 25 years

was just reading that apparently this is not the case and the top of the draft next year is loaded with upwards of 3-5 potentially elite prospects
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 09, 2015, 03:31:48 PM
thats good. now hopefully they go on another nice long losing streak.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 09, 2015, 03:53:39 PM
Was listening to Stark a few weeks ago he said this is considered a bad draft but next years is shaping up nice so who knows
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2015, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports.  Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.

I just wish the draft had more rounds.  900 isn't enough.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 09, 2015, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 09, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round.  The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.

Smuggest guys in the room.

thats one piece of information....others had him as the highest ranked HS bat

its a high risk/high reward move. most draft picks dont pan out anyway, HS kids less so. the other option was to take a nola-type college pitcher that could project in a mid rotation starter. they went with the high upside player that could project into a middle of the order bat, but will probably wind up being larry greene.

if either him or jhaylin ortiz hit then they've done it right.

I read the same thing about his bat.  Highly rated out of high school.  High school picks always scare me.  Yes the kid is an athlete but so is Dom Brown.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 09, 2015, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 09, 2015, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports.  Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.

I just wish the draft had more rounds.  900 isn't enough.

hahaha  legit.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2015, 05:59:07 PM
Only 40 rounds this year.

And, yeah... Amaro has nothing to do with the draft...

Phils draft Andrew Amaro (for the 2nd time) in the 35th round. (http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/now-ruben-amaro-jr-drafting-family-members-again)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
Drafted TMac and Morandidni's kids too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.

Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2015, 09:47:17 PM
pretty sure almarez and his scouts told roob about cornelius....not sure they yelled across the war room "yo roob theres this kid we drafted a couple years ago that we think is worth another shot" when amaro was still on the board
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2015, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
Drafted TMac and Morandidni's kids too

also the LV managers son
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 11, 2015, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.

Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director

are you trolling.....i know you are smarter than this
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 11, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
jonathan villar sent back down a few days ago

he has 0 future in houston with correa and altuve at middle infield. hes been underwhelming in the bigs, but is just 24 and hasnt had an enormous amount of at bats. i cant imagine his price tag is enormous. they have at least a season and a half of meaningless games coming up (err...80, j) where he can play at 2b/ss. does this make too much sense?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 13, 2015, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
Drafted TMac and Morandidni's kids too

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 14, 2015, 07:50:32 AM
Ruff down Brown up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 14, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Phillies pitchers pitch two 9-inning shutouts in the series, and get swept.

Beautiful lineup you got there, Rube.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 14, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
they dont have 1 major leaguer that isnt a pitcher
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on June 14, 2015, 08:12:57 PM
Franco but that may be it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 14, 2015, 08:36:24 PM
he might be one but you cant say for sure yet....im hopeful though

their OF logjam is hysterical. not enough at bats to go around for revere, brown, herrera, francore, ruf, asche and bogusevic! so much talent, so little space.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 16, 2015, 07:35:37 PM
Jerome Williams with the Gabby Douglas split.  Ouch!  2/3 of an inning, 4 hits, 4 runs, 2 wild pitches in a row.  he needs to find a new line of work.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 16, 2015, 07:36:37 PM
Sorry, 6 runs in 2/3.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
Williams' injury looked almost as painful as his pitching.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 16, 2015, 08:06:53 PM
dont worry guys, chad billingsly is making a rehab start tonight and should be in line to take his place
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 08:33:14 PM
This might be the worst stretch of Phillies baseball I've ever not watched.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on June 16, 2015, 08:34:00 PM
Any chance Nola comes up to replace him?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Can't imagine them starting his FA clock.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 16, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
They should bring Biddle up so we have something more to laugh at
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 16, 2015, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 08:33:14 PM
This might be the worst stretch of Phillies baseball I've ever not watched.

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Diomedes on June 16, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
I just checked the score.

LOL
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 16, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Can't imagine them starting his FA clock.

hell be up later in the year....i cant see them doing it until he has a good month or so in AAA. theyll run dustin mcgowan out there if they have to.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 10:16:40 PM
Giving up 1 hit in 2 innings of work (I'll ignore the walks)... Jeff Francoeur was their best pitcher tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
Best part was one of Ben Davis' keys to the game was Williams "going deep" in the game.  Then Williams blows up for six runs... and then his groin blows up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
The Orioles went deep... 8 times.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 16, 2015, 10:24:29 PM
id say a teams starting pitcher throwing a lot of innings is a key to every game ever played
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 16, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 16, 2015, 10:51:52 PM
Gritly getting fired up

https://twitter.com/mat1419/status/610999402614927360
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 11:07:22 PM
The defeat sealed the Phillies' first winless road trip of at least eight games since an 0-9 run in August 1883, their inaugural season.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 16, 2015, 11:23:31 PM
Fire Amaro and Sandberg
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
The Orioles went deep... 8 times.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 17, 2015, 04:59:55 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 16, 2015, 11:23:31 PM
Fire Amaro and Sandberg

SELL this farging team!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 18, 2015, 05:37:50 AM
(http://media.philly.com/images/PHLN18S2.JPG)

"Son. you're farged"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 18, 2015, 09:50:48 AM
don't worry everyone, ruben announced that cliff lee will be able to start throwing a baseball again in a month. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
aumont starting tomorrow because hamels a hamstring thing

80?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 18, 2015, 12:18:00 PM
Phillies starters are 0-14 with 5.89 ERA since May 24. No other rotation has fewer than 5 wins in that span.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 18, 2015, 12:56:07 PM
jerome williams
aaron harang
kevin correa
sean o'sullivan
phillippe aumont
adam morgan

this phillies starters since hamels last pitched
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 19, 2015, 02:52:13 PM
stark put out a ten names to watch at the deadline list...two phils heidi and paps made it

his predictions for them was heidi to the Rangers minutes before the deadline and paps to Toronto before July 4
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 19, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
can i get my meatcicle hard about schwarber please
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 20, 2015, 03:06:39 PM
To the surprise of no one but Amaro Aumont has been confirmed zesty

DFA'd
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 20, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
pretty sure roob knew

its a bad team and a bad organization that needed a spot start and all they had was a bad pitcher.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 21, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
another brutal weekend for the backend of the jays bullpen, specifically cecil

daniel norris. hi.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 22, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
I say Maikel you say Franco
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 22, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
I say eight you say oh
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 22, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
I say farg you say off!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 22, 2015, 10:34:14 PM
http://www.khou.com/story/sports/2015/06/22/source-phillies-hamels-would-block-trade-to-astros/29139973/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 23, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
thats bs....hes just trying to force a trade to somewhere he wants to go

if its the astros or the phillies, hell take the astros
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on June 23, 2015, 01:01:37 AM
Yeah why the farg would he block a trade there. They're like this year's 07 Phillies...on the brink.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on June 23, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
Every single one of us (minus Phreak) would nix a relocation to Houston if we had the choice. Why would you ever expect Cole Hamels to want to move/live/work in that god awful place?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:05:23 AM
what, you don't think inbred texas would be a good fit for cali cool ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 23, 2015, 11:17:06 AM
To be fair to Jay he's from Phoenixville, so it's not like Houston is a step down.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 23, 2015, 03:24:07 PM
Hahaha Phoenixville has actually turned yuppie and hipster.

And Houston has some nice areas. He's rich enough to hire a driver so he doesn't have to farg with this insane traffic.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 23, 2015, 03:37:08 PM
the 2 names bandied about for the rangers/hamels deal were alonso and mazara.

if that happens, i will personally mutilate roob.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 23, 2015, 03:41:05 PM
Do it.

Havas will come visit you in prison and I will send money to your commissary account
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 23, 2015, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.

Have you ever seen Coatesville?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 23, 2015, 10:42:10 PM
phils had a high level scout looking at chi chi gonzalez tonight

hes aaron nola but with worse control, but still well above average overall (nola doesnt walk ANYONE).....low k's....low 90s....pitches to contact....strong breaking stuff....projects as a mid rotation guy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on June 23, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
They're really really awful but Franco has been fun to watch.  Maybe he and Crawford are very dim cracks of light for the future.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 23, 2015, 11:58:28 PM
Jesus Christ!  Franco!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 24, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.

I told my wife yesterday that the Phils could lose the rest of their games this year and I wouldn't care if they swept the Yankees.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 02:40:39 AM
Hamels vs. Nova today.  Who in the hell is Nova?

C'mon Heidi, make one of your last games as a Bum your best.  Pitch like you should have in October 2009 you little bitch.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2015, 06:35:56 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 24, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.

I told my wife yesterday that the Phils could lose the rest of their games this year and I wouldn't care

you should be rooting for them to lose the rest of their games (even the Yankees)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 24, 2015, 06:56:04 AM
They'll lose a minimum of 6 out of 10 the rest of the way but beating the Yankees in New York is glorious.  farg those iceholes.

I clicked on Philly.com this morning to check the box score and thought they had forgot to update the front page.  Saw the score, saw the Franco five RBI detail and just chuckled.   Dude is on fire right now.  Let's hope he's not Dom Brown Part Deux.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 08:30:16 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 23, 2015, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.

Have you ever seen Coatesville?

yes, it's west camden.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 24, 2015, 06:56:04 AM
  Saw the score, saw the Franco five RBI detail and just chuckled.   Dude is on fire right now.  Let's hope he's not Dom Brown Part Deux.

what, a guy that got an attitude after a two month run in anotherwise bust career ?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 24, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
utley to the DL with a phantom injury.

thank god.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 24, 2015, 02:21:18 PM
someone needs to cut his foot off so that his option doesnt vest
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 24, 2015, 04:33:14 PM
Way to not close out the sweep, Cole! 

Woohoo!!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 24, 2015, 07:54:04 PM
http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/132634634/sources-phillies-to-hire-andy-macphail

There it is

I'm underwhelmed
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 24, 2015, 11:33:07 PM
hes fine as a president....lets see who hires as a gm. if he keeps roob or hires some old fart by all means destroy the hire. but a gillick/monty type old school baseball man running the team isn't the worst thing. the phillies just need to have someone "in charge" and as "the face" because the ownership group refuses to come into the spotlight.

MEANWHILE:
QuoteAaron Nola for Lehigh tonight: 7 2/3, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 25, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
name "phail"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 25, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/3a2eo8/who_is_kodeyashi/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 25, 2015, 01:02:33 PM
mcphail likes this dude

http://yscouts.com/interviews/matt-klentak-assistant-general-manager/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
corny randy 3-3 in his gcl debut
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 25, 2015, 10:32:52 PM
clearwater was five games out with five games to play in the fsl and ended up winning the first half title
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 26, 2015, 03:35:47 PM
bye bye ryno
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on June 26, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
smart man
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 26, 2015, 03:45:05 PM
yep, he keeps giving the PC responses but it comes down to - guys, this team blows, im outta here.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2015, 04:54:14 PM
He's not in their long term plans anyway.  Now if only his boss would follow him out the door...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 26, 2015, 06:10:15 PM
going tonight....i think sitting right behind in the dugout

might see an ugly jew on tv as scherzer throws another no no
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on June 26, 2015, 08:32:11 PM
12 outs away from a perfecto and it's 5-0 Nats. cmon history
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on June 26, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
fargin Freddy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 26, 2015, 09:31:05 PM
Damon that's shocking that Sandberg resigned.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 26, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
was rooting big time for scherez. once he lost it, i went back to your phils

dom brown is garbage....an embarassing human being

chilled with murph for a second. hes a person.

the dugout was dead, if thats any kind of shock. looked like nobody gave a flying farg of a farg. we were parraell to it, right in front of the camera well.

the greenie bag one of the rookie's was carrying was massive. how many farging uppers do they need.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 26, 2015, 10:19:34 PM
I'd be higher than matty if I had to watch that bullshtein night after night.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 26, 2015, 11:37:56 PM
I've been on vacation since nine days ago.  Haven't watched a single inning of Phillies baseball, even when staying in Philly with family.

It's been bliss.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 27, 2015, 12:43:00 AM
It farging ruins my summer when they suck. I haven't watched a goddamn game in almost a month
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good

thats how i feel about basketball....find the sixers unwatchable but can still enjoy phils game here and there

sounds like you just like basketball more than baseball
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 01:23:28 AM
Quote from: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good

thats how i feel about basketball....find the sixers unwatchable but can still enjoy phils game here and there

sounds like you just like basketball more than baseball

well you are super white....so i get that

but in general basketball is better than baseball...most people who dont like basketball can still watch a game that doesnt involve their team....whereas most baseball fans wont even watch their own team if they arent good much less a random game
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:36:24 AM
its 135 and theres just too many bland generalities there for me to deal with right now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 01:43:12 AM
when you wake up youll still be amazingly white and love minor league baseball more than nba basketball
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on June 27, 2015, 07:02:48 AM
I watched women's world cup and the NHL Draft last night instead of these dipshteins.

Rome for the lose.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 27, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
I don't care if my team sucks...just give me a reason to watch...a young cornerstone player. Franco's nice but he's not what I'm talking about.

Used to rank it - as far as teams closest to winning

Birds
Sixers
Phils/flyers






Especially after the nhl draft last night the Flyers are a solid 3rd while the Phils are way down here
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
I don't care if my team sucks...just give me a reason to watch...a young cornerstone player. Franco's nice but he's not what I'm talking about.

totally agree....its tough for baseball tho because they have so many starting positions and it isnt a sport like football where players can become good in five minutes

Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
Birds
Sixers
Phils/flyers

Especially after the nhl draft last night the Flyers are a solid 3rd while the Phils are way down here

i think the nfl team will always be #1 in any city because again its so easy to go from bad to good

id go (with a 1-10 ranking)

eagles - a clear number one because of the the sport they play...need a qb soooooo bad and if they had one they would be a 8 or 9...as is they are a 6.5

flyers - the crop of D prospects is ridiculous....love what hexy is doing...he is basically hinkie magic but is taking guys who will play soon...i think they could be cup contenders in the next 2-4 years....id give them a 5....i think they are 50/50 to become real players in a few years

sixers - the assets are ridiculous but the plan is falling apart to the point of having to start over and they play in a sport that takes forever to win in...2020 is a best case scenario and the odds of failing are huge...2

phillies - they are the sixers without any real assets...a lot of that has to do with baseball...its a sport where arron nola can look amazing in the minors but odds are he ends up being kyle kendrick....cant get excited about most baseball prospects until they actually come up and perform for a couple years...unless you have some trancendant guys and like you said sd even their best hopes arent that exciting...they are PHILLIE top prospects not game changing MLB top prospects....they have a disgraceful ownership situation and a terrible front office....they are going to be bad for a really long time and they are in a sport where hope is not strong....they really need the top pick next year...0
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 27, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
jp is the #2 prospect in baseball

you are calling nola "kendrick" based on absolutely no facts and just pure paranoia....hes projected to be well above that by everyone.

but the other stuff is fairly accurate, so hooray!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
five years ago dom brown was a five tool superstar

nola is ahead of his age but has very little upside or talent....could he be greg maddux...sure....but at best if he makes it hes probably a #3 guy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
five years ago dom brown was a five tool superstar

nola is ahead of his age but has very little upside or talent....could he be greg maddux...sure....but at best if he makes it hes probably a #3 guy

youre a rankings whore. im a real world guy. i dont care where baseball america had nola. i dont care if his grainy minor league vids show up on baseball tonight. i looked at video, numbers, read reports. dude aint kyle kendrick. but yes, he isnt a kershaw-level guy. OMG!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:14:43 PM
youre a rankings whore. im a real world guy.

lol....do you just make stuff up as you go along?.......you are all about advanced stats....that is the opposite of real world

and ftr i have no idea where he was ranked...i just know if he even has a successful career it will be as a middle of the rotation guy...at best
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 27, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
Todd is in the small % of fans who knows what he's talking about. Just ask him.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:20:35 PM
stats are part of every fiber of baseball...they are baseball.

in every other sport they can be misleading. but in baseball, not so much.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 27, 2015, 10:09:52 PM
Real World Todd all up in this bitch!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2015, 10:46:56 AM
Tommy Joseph has been moved to first
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 28, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
hes not a good enough hitter to be anything special at 1b

only question is what was worse:
1. lee trade to seattle
2. pence trades
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 28, 2015, 02:59:51 PM
go phils!

https://vine.co/#/v/eJgrqjXIpnO
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 28, 2015, 06:46:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 28, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
hes not a good enough hitter to be anything special at 1b

only question is what was worse:
1. lee trade to seattle
2. pence trades

:boom :boom :boom
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2015, 08:46:42 AM
im confident amaro will get a king's ransome for hamels.  :paranoid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2015, 09:53:41 AM
hold on to your dicks, john middleton is going to speak at the mcphail presser today

i believe this is his first public comments about the team in all these years as owner
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail?  i thought that one was pretty much given
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on June 29, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail?  i thought that one was pretty much given

It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled McPHail
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on June 29, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
Quote from: SD on June 29, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail?  i thought that one was pretty much given

It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled McPHail

yeah it's a perfect name phail for this town.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Quote from: SD on June 29, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail?  i thought that one was pretty much given

It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled McPHail

damn, good point.

my bad everyone
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 10:30:36 AM
maik maik has 24 rbi this month....pretty damn impressive
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
J.P. Crawford has reached base 41 straight games. 132 BB, 130 K in minor-league career, .396 OBP
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
on sportscenter jerry crasnick saying that mcphail will can roob at the end of the season then most likely hire matt klentak who worked for him in baltimore...then let klentak hire his own manager and the two leading guys right now are bud black and ron gardenhire

he did also mention jj picollo as a plan B to klentak
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2015, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
J.P. Crawford has reached base 41 straight games. 132 BB, 130 K in minor-league career, .396 OBP

its minor league stats, but the fact that hes walking more (or even to) his strikeouts is pretty insane.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
it's comforting when the guy you just hired as your team president says, "I'm a little surprised that you hired me"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on June 29, 2015, 03:10:48 PM
It's also comforting that Middleton said his mandate to win and they won't restrict him financially

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 29, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
most comforting is the embrace of analytics (sorry, sloths) and the fact that they went outside the organization for this position

mcphail is going to hire his own gm, someone who wasnt born at 1 citizens bank way. the 2 of them are going to clean out all of the old trash on the field and in the front office. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on June 29, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Joe BlNton is pitching for the Royals and looks like he lost 100 pounds
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on June 30, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Quote"Kendrick has 64 wins. You know how many wins (Milwaukee's Matt) Garza has? Sixty-seven."

old quote from roob i came across. man oh man.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on June 30, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 30, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Quote"Kendrick has 64 wins. You know how many wins (Milwaukee's Matt) Garza has? Sixty-seven."

old quote from roob i came across. man oh man.

Amarmetrics
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 30, 2015, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: Dillen on June 29, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Joe BlNton is pitching for the Royals and looks like he lost 100 pounds

Saw a pic of him in our local paper and he looks like a completely different person.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 30, 2015, 10:03:24 PM
This team is so farging bad that the highlights tonight are the shots of the Turkey Hill concession serving ice cream in the little Phillies helmets.  The toppings look tasty!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on June 30, 2015, 10:17:48 PM
Just heard a commercial on mlb.com with Sarge when he was on the Blue Jays broadcast team.  Damn I miss that mush mouth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 30, 2015, 10:23:26 PM
Choooooooooooooooooooooooooch

Rings hollow...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 01, 2015, 06:22:01 AM
That was a tough Chooch cheer to get out.  Out of practice.  His first homer in forever.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 01, 2015, 08:17:47 AM
(http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/images/Chase-Utley-WAR.focus-none.width-800.png)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 01, 2015, 10:06:34 AM
you are referencing WAR, nerd. same type of formula as VORP. dork.

anyway, the phillies new gm might be the new gm of the angels right about now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 01, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
i looked at nothing but the line until after i posted it...whether its something called war or rbi i dont care......the arc is awesome....pray he doesnt get the at bats this year to vest
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 02, 2015, 10:39:54 PM
phils 27
crew 33
rockies 34
chisox 34
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 05, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
fightins traded for the #1 international signing spot.....this is good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 05, 2015, 03:35:52 PM
yea it lets them sign jhalyn and that catcher...plus they can still go big the next few years.

zo makes sense of it

http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2015/07/05/trade-phillies-add-cash-for-international-signings/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 06, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Papelbon is an All Star.

I guess someone had to be.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
Now trade him before the game.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 06, 2015, 08:59:51 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 06, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Papelbon is an All Star.

I guess someone had to be.

hes had a great season....the phillies suck of course, but the dudes been great

im thinking hamels will make it as an injury replacement
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2015, 11:13:16 PM
Listening to Vin tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 07, 2015, 02:34:30 PM
O'Sullivan (LV) and Correia (DFA) are outta here
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 08, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2015, 11:13:16 PM
Listening to Vin tonight.

Same here.  He is poetry. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 08, 2015, 11:49:43 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on July 08, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2015, 11:13:16 PM
Listening to Vin tonight.

Same here.  He is poetry.

I've done it for all three LA games.  I may just not listen to T-Mac any more this year.  All the other announcers the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 11, 2015, 08:13:51 AM
9 earned runs off Hamels. Trade value is soaring.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 11, 2015, 09:06:14 AM
I tried last night but I just can't watch that slop anymore.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
I turned it off during the 4th inning implosion.  Just not worth the time.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 12:25:44 PM
I pretty much didn't watch a game in June

Watched every July game until last night when Pence's grand slam cleared the wall.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 12:25:44 PM
I pretty much didn't watch a game in June

Watched every July game until last night when Pence's grand slam cleared the wall.

That was about when I turned my TV off.  Not worth losing sleep over.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Yeah this is the worst I have seen them since 1997-1998.

Franco has hit a skid and I am interested to see if he adjusts to the adjustments made against him. That is about the only thing worth watching right now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 11, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Yeah this is the worst I have seen them since 1997-1998.

I think this team is even worse.

The Phillies have been terrible most of my life. I'm mentally conditioned to think of them as a loser team and that any period of winning is a temporary aberration. And yet, this current team is still more disgusting than anything I remember. The only consolation to this vile play is that the long-awaited explosion of the front office appears to be imminent.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 11, 2015, 10:42:19 PM
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/p403x403/11709699_1147125728636127_3564742818089756344_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 11, 2015, 11:34:31 PM
was at the pub tonight with oh's nats on every tv cept the one we were watching...which was espn and zach eflin getting lit the farg up in the pan am games
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 12, 2015, 02:06:30 AM
if its any consolation, tom windle has been good out of the pen since they moved him there
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 12, 2015, 09:53:48 PM
For anyone keeping track, 51-20 after the break would get them to 80 wins.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
Jerome Williams is coming back so they have a shot!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 12, 2015, 10:29:46 PM
their second half will be better than you think
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 12, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
Get home from errands:
1.  >Click<
2.  Barbara Billingsley gives up a 3-run-homer
3.  >Click<
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 12, 2015, 10:47:40 PM
so 22 wins instead of 20?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 13, 2015, 11:30:02 AM
franchise worst is 111 loses. they could break that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 13, 2015, 12:31:34 PM
From James Michener:

Garland them with timeless lilies!
Although they are a bunch of dillies
Who give honest men the willies-
We still love them for their sillies-
Hail, The Phillies.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
Yo Havas check your boy lil guy...he's arguing with me that I don't hate Amaro and that I wasn't against his hiring. Set him straight for me!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 13, 2015, 08:54:27 PM
Papelbon is now publicly demanding a trade.  Can't understand why the Phillies haven't found a trading partner for him.  He's been such a colossal dickface, I'd purposely make him play out the deal now.  farg that bitch.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 13, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
Yo Havas check your boy lil guy...he's arguing with me that I don't hate Amaro and that I wasn't against his hiring. Set him straight for me!

I honestly cant remember what you said about his hiring but you definitely have hated him for a long while
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
i dont care about that....he only "hates" roob because hes smug

j never questioned anything he ever did. its all a show.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 09:50:10 PM
You're grasping at straws that don't even exist

Amaro is the worst and I never wanted him hired.

Ill hang up and listen, Chief
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 10:01:56 PM
you cant even give me 3 things you didnt like that he did...you hating just to hate

fraud with a capital h for houston j!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Trading Lee
Papelbon
Not getting enough in return for people who he has traded

I mean how could you possibly think I've ever supported him. Has he made some good moves yeah but that doesn't mean I like him or wanted him hired.

You're like foxnews...ignore the truth for your agenda!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 10:44:22 PM
you were not against papelbon....theres no way
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Go dig it up, sunshine.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 11:17:25 PM
you had them winning the world series last year and winning 80 games this year....theres nothing to look up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 11:21:08 PM
The fun begins here....zero support from me on Papelbon

http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21319.375

any other hot takezzzz from you, Tijuana Todd?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 11:30:21 PM
you hated the move so much you had them winning the world series that year and each of the next 2 years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 11:39:00 PM
welcome to being a fan...something you quite haven't grasped.

Keep on keepin on, salty
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 13, 2015, 11:43:26 PM
so on 1 hand amaro is the worst....but on the other hand the phillies are my favoriest most bestest team and theyre going to win!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 13, 2015, 11:52:56 PM
Amaro has made so many idiotic moves, it really is pointless to select them individually.  He should have been fired after 2012, but the impotent clueless fargs who own the team refused to "let a good thing" go.  Bums in seats were more important than re-tooling a roster that was teetering on the edge of oblivion.  Hell, Boston did it.  The Cardinals do it every farging year.  But not the Phillies because they suck and always will.  farg this team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 14, 2015, 06:40:41 PM
Papelbon has been playing really well, and he actively and loudly wants out. He's a piece of shtein, but he's one of the only movable genuine assets on the team.

In retrospect, that signing might actually have been the best thing Amaro would have realistically done with that money.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 15, 2015, 09:48:27 AM
Supposedly Jayson Stark is now saying that there is "less than a 50/50 chance" that Hamels is traded.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 15, 2015, 10:21:10 AM
1. I am glad Papsmear didn't get into the game last night. Hopefully he will whine about it.

2. Not too shocking on Hamels and I think what that means is for the deadline. They will probably deal him in the off-season when the new regime is in place.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 15, 2015, 10:35:55 AM
My biggest fear is that Hamels is going to come down with some arm injury that will torpedo his value.

Then again, with Amaro in charge of the trade, that may not matter anyways.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 15, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
injury isn't s big factor if they trade him this offseason....I mean unless you are scared he's gonna get hurt in the two months from the deadline to the end of the season

just in general his  value automatically takes a big hit after this deadline...injury or not

in fact if they don't trade him this month j hope he gets hurt or run over by a bus...it's just what this pos organization would deserve
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 15, 2015, 11:14:09 AM
his value is especially high now because of the strong FA class next year...every team that wants an arm will be able to get one. even a guy like james shields will be available.

so if he doesnt go now, theyre better off holding off until the 2016 deadline. by then the hamels-nola 1-2 punch will be in full effect  so they might not even choose to do it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 15, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
Barry Larkin:  Jimmy Rollins "absolutely" a hall of famer. (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/barry-larkin-jimmy-rollins-absolutely-hall-famer)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 17, 2015, 10:56:08 AM
nola time tuesday
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 17, 2015, 08:59:34 PM
Eric Kratz signed a minor league deal with Bums.  Go Team Go!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 18, 2015, 02:09:47 AM
Papsmear getting booed tonight was beautiful.  Colossal douche.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 19, 2015, 02:16:39 AM
phillies 31
fish 38
rocktober 39
brew crew 40
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 19, 2015, 02:37:56 PM
Heidi with two stellar outings in his last two starts
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 19, 2015, 04:56:16 PM
Frenchie loves him some Marlins...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 19, 2015, 06:14:56 PM
busta buss just tweeted that there are questions all over baseball about heidis health

just wonderful
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 19, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
GMs leaking false info to drive the market down

Heard the same thing about Cueto today too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 19, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
not when out of nowhere where you absolutely implode like heidi has...shtein last night I was even saying to my boy I wonder if the little bitch is hurt...after today i don't know how anyone wouldn't have some level of concern
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 19, 2015, 06:54:43 PM
Hmmm... I wonder where I heard that before?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 19, 2015, 07:17:22 PM
going to see jp crawford tuesday and wednesday

anyone know how to find probables for minor league teams
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 19, 2015, 07:58:15 PM
hamels isnt hurt....unless you consider his Hoyda to be part of his body. hes just mentally weak. same as it ever was. if he gets traded to a place he wants to go, im sure hell pitch fine.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 21, 2015, 07:17:21 PM
Nola gave up a leadoff double then made the next three look like chumps.   All they need is 23 more players with his sort of talent and they've really got something.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 21, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
aaron nola pitched well but since 1 stupid fluky thing happened and the phillies scored 0 runs, he got the loss so he sucks

getting the win wouldve been better
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 22, 2015, 06:45:47 AM
That lineup last night was disgusting.  No more so than usual, but really... good luck with that slop for the next 3 years, kid.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2015, 09:02:40 AM
waaaaaah

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/rays-tales-2008-memories-of-philadelphia/2237867
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on July 22, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
Jesus. So much butthurt.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 22, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
I like how, no matter which sport is written about, when discussing the fans everyone mentions how inhospitable Philly fans are. Every article mentions things thrown at the buses or the people shooting the finger at the players on the bus.

This ain't STL or Kansas City - no welcoming parties for visitors.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 22, 2015, 12:22:23 PM
farg Tampa. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 22, 2015, 12:48:21 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 22, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
Every article mentions things thrown at the buses or the people shooting the finger at the players on the bus.


:paranoid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 22, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
LOL...please just fold the team

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13301497/jonathan-papelbon-wishes-not-traded-philadelphia-phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 23, 2015, 01:28:47 PM
astros get kazmir, a huge gut punch to j's orbit of houston and philly. astros were never really a realistic spot for hamels anyway. he didnt want to go there.

tick tock gillick
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2015, 06:29:15 PM
Heidi is about to throw a no-no is his last appearance as a Phillie.

Perfect.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 25, 2015, 06:49:33 PM
Cole farging Hamels

and Herrera....holy shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 25, 2015, 06:50:10 PM
Literally shaking my farging head right now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 25, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
Crazy that Stark was saying this was going to be the biggest start of Hamels' career for the team, even including the WS, and he goes out and throws a no-no.

I'm officially done calling this guy a Hoyda. Thanks for 2008 and thanks for today, Hamels.

Don't farg this up, Rube.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on July 25, 2015, 07:09:05 PM
+1.  Awesome cole
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 25, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
if this gets them urias or seager or schwarber, etc. then i will lick his dick

otherwise, cool shtein boss. what a way to go out.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 25, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
So what's this for Chooch, no-hitter number 4?

Adderall: don't try to call a game without it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 25, 2015, 09:27:45 PM
So wait I thought Hamels was hurt?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 25, 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 25, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
I'm officially done calling this guy a Hoyda. Thanks for 2008 and thanks for today, Hamels.

Yep. 

All I could think about was a 94 degree day at Wrigley and Doc Halladay red as a tomato, melting like a candle on the sun.  Hamels sucked it up in that god awful heat and did his shtein.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2015, 03:05:08 AM
Quote from: MDS on July 25, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
if this gets them urias or seager or schwarber

is this a joke?

seager  sucks btw
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
the consensus best prospect in baseball sucks

well you heard it. noted baseball expert and scout and all around intelligent human being, a message board poster named "ice grillin you," has spoken, so therefore factual information has been revealed.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2015, 10:53:05 AM
lol I was drunk and was thinking kyle seager

still im pretty sure Corey seager will not be good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
kyle seager is actually pretty good, too. hes 9th among 3B in OPS and 6th in WAR. hitting .274 and on pace to hit 20+ homers. hes not mike trout, but hes a good player.

i have no idea if his brother is going to be good or not, you never know in baseball, but the consensus best prospect is the consensus best prospect. please stick to summer league hoops.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2015, 11:01:17 AM
he's ok but he's not a prospect which is why I flipped out at the notion of getting him for Heidi
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 11:05:50 AM
when i said urias did you think i meant juan uribe?

anyway the national reporters are now saying texas is in the lead. i doubt theyd get gallo back, so it probably be their catcher and chi chi to start.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2015, 11:18:19 AM
roughned
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 26, 2015, 01:01:54 PM
I just can't wait to find out how Amaro fargs this up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 26, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
I wouldn't trust Amaro to pump gas into my car.  The first thing McFail should have done was to fire his ass.  The fact that he didn't or didn't have the power to can him says all that needs to be said about the Phillies.  We're back to having to wait a decade or more for them to contend again.  That's fine.  2008 wasn't that long ago.  I guess I'll have to be content with that until I'm eligible for medicare (15 years to go).
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
amaro isnt making any decisions

its gillick
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 26, 2015, 02:00:35 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 26, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
I wouldn't trust Amaro to pump gas into my car.  The first thing McFail should have done was to fire his ass.  The fact that he didn't or didn't have the power to can him says all that needs to be said about the Phillies.  We're back to having to wait a decade or more for them to contend again.  That's fine.  2008 wasn't that long ago.  I guess I'll have to be content with that until I'm eligible for medicare (15 years to go).

I figure at the Phils' rate of success, I'll be retired by the time they win another championship.

At the Eagles' rate of success, I'll be dead.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 26, 2015, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2015, 11:05:50 AMthe national reporters are now saying texas is in the lead. i doubt theyd get gallo back, so it probably be their catcher and chi chi to start.

I think Nomar Mazara has to be part of any package coming back
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 26, 2015, 03:23:28 PM
What the hell is going on out there?!

Asche and his xbh's and now a HOF double?!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 26, 2015, 03:58:27 PM
Jesus now a HOF TRIPLE?!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 04:42:05 PM
nola bitch
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 26, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
I was at the movies for his opener but watched every pitch today and I can't tell if he's Greg Maddox or Jason hammel....the movement on his pitches is sick but his stuff isn't good...that doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 26, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
that doesnt make any sense
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 26, 2015, 07:11:34 PM
He's not Randy Johnson but he's not Randy Jackson either.

IGYism
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on July 26, 2015, 09:06:37 PM
He has good movement and good location. He's 22.

End of story.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 27, 2015, 08:06:31 AM
If by end of story you mean let's argue incessantly over nothing for 20 pages, then end of story it is.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 27, 2015, 08:19:03 AM
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
amaro isnt making any decisions

its gillick

gotta agree. i dont see a way amaro has any say in anyting at this point.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 27, 2015, 11:50:22 PM
its not an opinion. its a fact.

gillick has been making the calls for a year now
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 28, 2015, 07:11:55 AM
i agree gillick will be making all the most important decisions leading up to this deadline most likely along with mcphail...with mcpahil in waiting roob on his way out and this being a time that is crucial to the future of the ranchise no way amaro is involved...anything pre mcphail hiring in on roobs resume tho
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 28, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
accordingto the latest from zolecki the giants are now one of the teams right in the mix for heidi
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 28, 2015, 10:25:21 AM
im not sure they have the prospects to get it done. their selling point is taking on the contract, which to me, is unessential. i gotta trust middleton that doesnt care about that.

texas is still in the lead. gotta come away with (1 of) mazara, gallo or odor. add that in with alfaro and its not a horrible pull.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 28, 2015, 11:48:12 AM
Pap to the Nats is picking up steam again
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 28, 2015, 12:47:02 PM
Perfect landing spot for a turd.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 28, 2015, 04:29:11 PM
reaction from our resident nats fan on that news ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 28, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
Sounds like they're giving up a pitcher from Harrisburg in return.  Obviously won't be Giolito
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 28, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
nats deal is basically done, it seems

gotta think its voth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 06:01:57 PM
Havas gonna be pissed!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 28, 2015, 06:22:52 PM
prospect is a pos but they were never getting anything for paplebon....it's always been about getting rid of him
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 28, 2015, 06:24:59 PM
Getting rid of him and his mouth is far more important than getting anything in return.  Its too bad Washington is the landing spot because, well, we'll have to see and hear him more than we would if he was sent to farging Seattle, but still... good riddance, icehole.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 28, 2015, 06:25:55 PM
the guy they got back is a longshot to be a ML pitcher...if everything works out hes an average, nondescript starter.

about what you could expect for papelbon. fun part here is rooting against the nats in the playoffs, even more ammo now.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 28, 2015, 07:49:42 PM
Paps + Harper = Igy + Todd
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 28, 2015, 08:10:17 PM
Phils back to bein' the Phils.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 28, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
Nice start by Giles.  It's like Paps never left.  Work it to 3-2 and put the leadoff man on.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 28, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
80!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 28, 2015, 09:44:22 PM
nice to see them playing well but they really need that 1
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 10:05:36 PM
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 10:05:36 PM
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?

they are the worst team in baseball....but im supposed to be just 80ing and shtein
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on July 29, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
just read papelbon is the all time phillies saves leader? that blows my mind.

my steve bedrosian starting lineup figure is probably worth nothing.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: hbionic on July 29, 2015, 02:10:35 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 29, 2015, 03:29:47 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on July 29, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
just read papelbon is the all time phillies saves leader? that blows my mind.

my steve bedrosian starting lineup figure is probably worth nothing.

Trade you my Scott Rolen?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 10:05:36 PM
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?

they are the worst team in baseball....but im supposed to be just 80ing and shtein

atta boy...back into your Marcus Hayes mode
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 29, 2015, 03:07:22 PM
Hayes wrote an all-time hatchet piece on Ryno the other day

So bitter and pissed off that their industry is crumbling to pieces. 

😥
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 05:01:46 PM
so if i can infer from tweets....sorry rome....the astros have a decent offer on the table, but hamels does not want to go there.

the question will be come friday: does he accept the astros trade or stay on the POS team?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 29, 2015, 06:13:25 PM
How about instead of reading baseless rumors on Twitter, you make a few phone calls to people inside the organizations that * may * have an interest in him?

Too much?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
The Astros fans here want him bad...

Gotta get McCullers in return no?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 29, 2015, 09:09:14 PM
Roob's on it:

(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/134/134-307Fr.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
rangers deal "close"

gallo!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 29, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
Trade Papsmear - check

Trade Cole Hamels - close

Shoot Jerome Williams - closer than you think
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 09:56:18 PM
all the beat guys got the same text from, probably, roob.

im hoping for 2 of: chi chi, gallo, mazara, alfaro and odor. bracing for 1, expecting 0.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 09:58:32 PM
Salisbury said he doesn't think Gallo or Mazara but yes on Alfaro
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:00:07 PM
@JSalisburyCSN: Pitcher Jerad Eickhoff pulled from Rangers Triple A game. Could be coming to Phillies in Hamels deal
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
"a catcher with serious ankle injuries"

how my rangers fan buddy described alfaro. cool.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
eickhoff is garbage...alfaro is maybe an ok catcher....id rather just hold on to him
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:06:53 PM
I have a feeling the Phillies are gonna get raped

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:11:17 PM
Nick Williams taken outta Frisco's game

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
Rangers beat writer

@Sullivan_Ranger: Jerad Eickhoff and C Jorge Alfaro are in deal from Texas
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 29, 2015, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
"a catcher with serious ankle injuries"

how my rangers fan buddy described alfaro. cool.

Just great.  shtein show continues
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
nick williams is the big part of the deal.

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=608384#/career/R/hitting/2015/ALL

hes black!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
@jonmorosi: To recap: #Rangers to acquire Cole Hamels for OF Nick Williams, C Jorge Alfaro, RHP Jerad Eickhoff, and at least 1 more player. @FOXSports
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:25:20 PM
@ToddZolecki: Sources: RHP Alec Asher is also in the Hamels deal. Can confirm OF Nick Williams is in the trade, too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
lol diekman in the deal

see ya
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:30:08 PM
No Chi Chi

But the Phils are sending cash money too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2015, 10:30:59 PM
Jorge Alfaro, C: Just turned 22 this month, right-handed hitter with plus power potential but issues with plate discipline and consistency, hitting .253/.314/.432 in Double-A, currently on disabled list with significant ankle injury and may miss the rest of the season. Excellent defensive tools but still an unrefined player. Injury clouds value but would still be a trade target if medicals are OK.

Alec Asher, RHP: Age 23, 4.14 ERA with 68/30 K/BB in 78 innings between Double-A and Triple-A this year, originally a fourth round pick in 2012 from junior college in Florida, solid fastball but secondary pitches are average, has a shot at being a fourth starter or perhaps a more dominant reliever.

Nick Williams, OF: Age 21, second round pick in 2012 from a Texas high school, lefty hitter with good tools and greatly improved strike zone judgment, hitting .294/.357/.457 in Double-A this year. Has made a lot of progress refining his hitting skills over the last six months, projects as a regular.

Jerad Eickhoff, RHP: poop
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:33:35 PM
williams is the only piece i like

alfaro has positional value, thats it. he seems like a marginal improvement over knapp.

the 2 pitchers are total trash.

fwiw rosenthal said theres more players involved, but im sure none of them are good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:35:59 PM
matt harrison is in the deal

matt harrison has made 2, 4, and 3 starts the past 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
Matt Harrison?! For what? Why?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on July 29, 2015, 10:37:17 PM
Williams and Alfaro are good pieces. I thought thePhils would have got more, but it could have been worse. It's like a C+
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:37:57 PM
harrson is owed 13 mil in 16 and 17

what the farg...the only way this makes sense is if theyre taking on all of hamels' contract and its a salary dump
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2015, 10:39:47 PM
Did the Phils unload Rube in this trade too?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:43:12 PM
If they're taking Harrsion AND giving money and not getting Mazara or Gallo, which we know they aren't, it reeks.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:45:36 PM
@Evan_P_Grant: FInal deal and its a doozy: Matt Harrison, Alec Asher, Jerad Eickhoff, Nick Williams, Jorge Alfaro & Jake Thompson for Hamels+Diekman+Cash.

There it is
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
basically they couldnt get mazara or gallo so they settled for every other AA/AAA player with a slim chance of becoming a ML player. and also matt harrison.

i wouldve just held on to hamels. eat 2016 and spend some cash in 2017, try to win. but for a boob like roobin and a fossil like gillick, this is what you get.

oh wait jake thompson, their top pitching prospect. now were talking.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2015, 10:48:57 PM
Best part of the deal was Diekman.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
So apparently Jake Thompson is the Rangers best pitching prospect?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 29, 2015, 10:50:36 PM
If you take Gallo out of the list since he's in the majors, the Phils got Texas' #3, #4, #5, #16 and #28 prospects
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 10:51:22 PM
@BNightengale: The Houston #Astros had put together a strong package #Phillies Cole Hamels, but he exercised his no-trade rights, and ends up w #Rangers.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
hamels is a moron....dallas and houston are the same place. except 1 has a good baseball team and the other doesnt.

mid season 2016. maybe.
SP: Nola, Thompson, Morgan, Harrison (?), Kyle Kendrick (probably)
Closer: Ken K
1B: ?
2B: Cesar
SS: JP
3B: Franco
OF: Williams, Herrera, Asche, Altherr
C: Alfaro

there might be enough there to go buy up some FAs in 2017 and try to become competitive again. remember, that year they will have around 150 mil to spend. the big thing theyre gonna need is a frontline pitcher (duh).
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
I'm basically okay with it, they got multiple guys who might one day be part of a winning Phillie team. Hamels was never going to be again. Did they get a star? No but that was pretty much what we expected. There's going to be some boring-ass baseball for a while.

It's not exciting, but restocking the farm and maybe getting some mediocre guys into spots currently occupied by zesty guys is a start. Meh.

Will be interesting to see how the money shakes out.

It'll be up to the next GM to fix this mess up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 29, 2015, 10:59:26 PM
I can't wait to see the latest incarnation of Omar Daal pitch for the Phils.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on July 29, 2015, 11:03:45 PM
All 5 minor leaguers are at AAA and AA btw.....no Lakewood or Clearwater filler here
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 29, 2015, 11:06:38 PM
the farm system now is actually in really good shape. it doesnt have an other worldly prospect, like corey seager or kris bryant, but jp is pretty close.

you have a lot of guys with decent chances to 1 day become major leaguers. hit on a few of them, buy up some FAs starting in 17 and we might have something going here. especially when the new gm comes in.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 29, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
Which one has Tommy John first and will the catcher be the second coming of  Lou Marson??
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on July 29, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 11:06:38 PM
the farm system now is actually in really good shape. it doesnt have an other worldly prospect, like corey seager or kris bryant, but jp is pretty close.

you have a lot of guys with decent chances to 1 day become major leaguers. hit on a few of them, buy up some FAs starting in 17 and we might have something going here. especially when the new gm comes in.

That's how I see it. They are well positioned to become a regular team again instead of an unmitigated disaster with no future. It's up to the next administration to take them to the next step of being competitive. Or to straggle along and turn this into a lost decade, whatever. I think ownership is willing to spend, so a competent front office should be able to get them back to being a playoff caliber team before decade end. Baby steps.

All of these prospects could bomb out and Hamels could be great for another five years, but at some point they had to pull the trigger on a deal like this. Especially since they waited too long to trade Lee.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 12:25:18 AM
they are paying some portion of hamels' deal and took on that dreadful harrison contract in order to get back the haul

they havent been cheap for almost a decade now. they arent cheap.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 30, 2015, 12:46:50 AM
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Phillies sending $9.5M to #Rangers in Hamels deal and assuming Harrison's remaining obligation, which amounts to about $34M.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
I've been critical of Heidi over the years but I have to say when I woke up this morning and saw that he'd been dealt, I felt a twinge of regret.   2008 seems so far away right now.  Whatever, though.  They got a decent return but legit #1 aces are so hard to come by, I have a feeling this is a trade they're (and more importantly we're) going to regret for a long time.   Maybe not as much as the Schilling trade, but close.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 07:01:43 AM
Quote from: Dillen on July 29, 2015, 10:37:17 PM
Williams and Alfaro are good pieces. I thought thePhils would have got more, but it could have been worse. It's like a C+

basically what jim bowden said but he gave it a B

rangers held onto their top two prospects got a number one starter for the next three years and got paid....gave them an A

Phillies got a couple guys who might make the majors at some point...said alfaro should be a 20 hr catcher
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 07:05:19 AM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
I've been critical of Heidi over the years but I have to say when I woke up this morning and saw that he'd been dealt, I felt a twinge of regret.   2008 seems so far away right now.  Whatever, though.  They got a decent return but legit #1 aces are so hard to come by, I have a feeling this is a trade they're (and more importantly we're) going to regret for a long time.   Maybe not as much as the Schilling trade, but close.

they have/had no chance of winning before Heidi is old and declining....there is zero chance they ever regret trading him

the downside here is obviously all on what they got back being garbage...whereas there is 0 percent downside in moving Heidi
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on July 30, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
The blowback about Hamels was always dumb.  Good luck in Texas.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLKLYlUUMAI3JMy.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:56:29 AM
You don't think they regret trading Sandberg or Rolen or Schilling or Lee or any other of the innumerable trades that they received sacks of magic beans back in return?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:56:29 AM
You don't think they regret trading Sandberg or Rolen or Schilling or Lee or any other of the innumerable trades that they received sacks of magic beans back in return?

schilling no....basically the same situation as heidi cept schilling wanted out bad...guy in his early 30's on a phillies team that was at least five years away from winning....this was basically the baseball verison of the barkley trade

rolen no....but its not comparable....he wanted out and they were going to lose him for nothing....if he wasnt a little bitch they def would have kept him....plus they went on to win a world series after dealing him...how could you regret getting rid of a bitchmade middle american and winning a ws

sandberg 100% they regret...but again its not comparable to heidi's situation in the least...he was a 21 year old prospect

lee they also def regret...but also not comparable to heidi....they were a world series favorite....you think if they were even in the wild card race right now much less a ws contender that heidi would have been dealt?

theres a difference between looking back and being sickened at the return you got for a particular guy and regretting actually trading the guy away...heidi may fall into the bad return column like lee or schilling but not the sandberg column where you cant believe you traded the guy away
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 30, 2015, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 30, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
The blowback about Hamels was always dumb.  Good luck in Texas.

this
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 09:14:39 AM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-the-prospects-in-the-hamels-trade/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on July 30, 2015, 09:32:37 AM
that article is exactly why baseball is so horrible.

BABIP, FV, 70 raw power. what the farg is any of that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
babip is avg. of balls in play...essentially it eliminates strikeouts and homers because everything else, to a certain extent, is luck

FV i have no idea

70 raw power is scout speak. scouts grade players on a 20-80 scale, for whatever reason. so 70 is a pretty god damn good.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
dont pay attention to most of that.....listen to the scouts

except the 70 raw power stuff....these are simple skill set rankings....its just a way of grading a players power speed etc....really no different than grading a football player on his individual attributes....the annoying thing is because they are baseball nerds they cant do a 1-10, 10-100 or even a letter grade...they have to do 20-80 to make themselves seem smarter

the babip future value and all that is worthless

what is most important is what all the scouts say and there is a lot of that in there

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on July 30, 2015, 11:12:40 AM
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2015/07/phillies_trade_cole_hamels_to_texas_rangers_scouti.html

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/phillies/Who-did-the-Phillies-acquire-for-Cole-Hamels.html
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 11:14:57 AM
They got reamed.  Just admit it.  You'll feel better.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
first off, its going to take 3 years to figure out any of that

second, they werent getting urias, schwarber, seager, gallo, etc. teams dont trade those guys anymore.

third, they had to trade hamels. had to. they have 0 chance to win a title for the next 3-4 years and keeping an expensive arm on the wrong side of 30 makes no sense. they got what they could for him and what they got is 5 players that could all wind up being pieces at the ML level. or they could all suck. i dont know, and neither do you.

their farm system now has a bunch of different potential ML options thatll be ready over the next 2 years. this could all come together in 2017 or 2018, or it could not. point is, there is some light and some hope now. there is a foundation brewing. and there is money to spend.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on July 30, 2015, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
first off, its going to take 3 years to figure out any of that

second, they werent getting urias, schwarber, seager, gallo, etc. teams dont trade those guys anymore.

third, they had to trade hamels. had to. they have 0 chance to win a title for the next 3-4 years and keeping an expensive arm on the wrong side of 30 makes no sense. they got what they could for him and what they got is 5 players that could all wind up being pieces at the ML level. or they could all suck. i dont know, and neither do you.

their farm system now has a bunch of different potential ML options thatll be ready over the next 2 years. this could all come together in 2017 or 2018, or it could not. point is, there is some light and some hope now. there is a foundation brewing. and there is money to spend.

Agree with this, I think they got the best offer they could. He's worth less next year because of all the arms that will be on the free agent market. I wish they could have dealt with Houston but oh well.

The catcher if he can stay healthy should be a major league player
You have Franco at 3rd
Crawford at SS
Galvis is fine at 2nd until they find someone better
Maybe Nick Williams turns into a decent major league outfielder
Nola will probably be a 2/3 type starter
Giles is a good closer

So you have some pieces, maybe add some free agents in a few years to solidify the offense. Howard will be off the books by then. So it's a rebuilding plan but at least there's a glimmer of hope
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Reamed.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 11:34:33 AM
currently they have 65 mil on the books for 2016--14.5 of that is buyouts for utley and lee
25 for howard, 13 for harrison, 8.5 for chooch. 4.6 for MAG. thats it.

in 2017, its down to 24 mil. 10 of which is howard's buyout. the rest is harrison.

in 2018, they have 2 mil on the books. 2 mil. thats just harrison's buyout.

their payroll can easily be around the 150-200 mil range. they are going to be able to go farging nuts, especially on short term contracts that wont hurt them when the nola's, franco's, jp's become arbitration eligible and start making some money in 2019, 2020 area. this is a lot of money to spend!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 30, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
so when can they put dom brown in the delaware with cement cleats ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
not sure if there will be mutual interest, but jason heyward is a free agent. hes 25.

phils have loads of money to spend...he will likely still be a pretty good player in 2-3 years when theyre really ready (maybe)....possibly frees up corny randy as a trade chip to get a pitcher in a few years. just an idea.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 30, 2015, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: smeags on July 30, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
so when can they put dom brown in the delaware with cement cleats ?

LOL!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 30, 2015, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
not sure if there will be mutual interest, but jason heyward is a free agent. hes 25.

phils have loads of money to spend...he will likely still be a pretty good player in 2-3 years when theyre really ready (maybe)....possibly frees up corny randy as a trade chip to get a pitcher in a few years. just an idea.

lololol at being ready in 2 years

that is legit hilarious
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
He's right about the money, though. They won't have anyone ready to cash in for half a decade.

They could spend a fortune once the dregs are gone, but I think that would be a huge mistake.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
He's right about the money, though. They won't have anyone ready to cash in for half a decade.

They could spend a fortune once the dregs are gone, but I think that would be a huge mistake.

1) im right about everything

2) it depends on how they spend it. short term (1-3 year) contracts for whatever sum of money will not be a "huge mistake." now theyre likely not going to get anybody amazing, but they could pick up a few decent pieces here and there that could, combined with the young players, turn this thing around quicker than youd think. i dont mean theyd win the series, id mean you wouldnt have .350 baseball to watch.

heyward is the exception, since hes so young. they could make a long term investment in him, knowing that the first year or two of the deal might not result in anything tangible. you couldnt take that risk on grienke, cueto or justin upton. those FA signings are for teams ready to win right that second.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
1.  No.

2.  Didn't read.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 30, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
i can always rely on you, friend
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
I'm at a baseball game.  I promise to read it later.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2015, 09:10:45 PM
Von Brown finally hit a homer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 09:48:31 PM
Daytona Beach has a minor league baseball team that has won, like, 40 league titles in the last 20 years.  They used to be the Cubs high A team and now they're the Reds high A team.  This version is farging dull and boring so I'm home.

Good:  Dollar beer night.

Bad:  Only had three before it started pouring.   Again.

I don't know a single player on the team now that the Cubs have moved on and the mascot literally looks like something Stephen King would dream up to scare the farg outta you.

But dollar beers.

The end.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2015, 09:55:04 PM
I still hit the Fort Myers Miracle on occasion.  Used to do it more often, but life is just busier in general, and even A-level baseball has gotten a bit more expensive, especially when it takes a 45 minute drive to get there.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
That's who they were playing tonight.

Fort Myers had guys on 1st and 2nd with none out.  They bunted to move them over to 2nd and third.  Daytona walked the bases full.  Two straight K's later, Daytona gets out of the inning.   I swear Brad Pitt in Moneyball was screaming in my farging ears watching that.  Talk about loser baseball.  I hate that shtein.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 30, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
Nice job by Giles there to come back strong.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
Nice job by Giles there to come back strong.

He was throwing gas tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 30, 2015, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
That's who they were playing tonight.

Fort Myers had guys on 1st and 2nd with none out.  They bunted to move them over to 2nd and third.  Daytona walked the bases full.  Two straight K's later, Daytona gets out of the inning.   I swear Brad Pitt in Moneyball was screaming in my farging ears watching that.  Talk about loser baseball.  I hate that shtein.

Sounds like Ryne Sandberg ball.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 06:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
1.  No.

2.  Didn't read.

I could go find 50 posts where the little guy is telling everyone to settle in because this is gonna take a long time....now they might be ready in two years

you can probably go back and find a few posts that are overly optimistic too...in other words he's totally skitzo on this and is just throwing shtein against a wall to see if it sticks depending on the day...two years is new for even him tho
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2015, 07:31:31 AM
TBF he's been saying that since they lost in 2009, so really, it will be 8 years in 2 years.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 31, 2015, 09:00:51 AM
any word on where these guys are going from the hamels trade ? going to see reading play in trenton in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 31, 2015, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 06:54:59 AMyou can probably go back and find a few posts that are overly optimistic too...in other words he's totally skitzo on this

in a way, maybe

its less throwing shtein against a well and more my opinions changing -- 2 years ago we didnt know what we now know about franco, jp and nola or the guys they got in the hamels trade. i never actually said theyll definitely be good in 2-3 years. i said its a possibility, a scenario based on percentages. and it is.

Quote from: Rome on July 31, 2015, 07:31:31 AM
TBF he's been saying that since they lost in 2009, so really, it will be 8 years in 2 years.

incorrect. i was calm after the losses in 09 and 10. i knew theyd be back. after 11 is when i bailed. and look at that, i was right on it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 31, 2015, 10:07:18 AM
yeah, you were the only one who got it right. kudos tiger.

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShbA0wjCFuXk_YMuz1zCLhqnvMm1NAJyqmjvHfsKWn0TcL7ItqXE7PM78)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Quote from: smeags on July 31, 2015, 09:00:51 AM
any word on where these guys are going from the hamels trade ? going to see reading play in trenton in a couple weeks.

not the hamels trade but pivetta starts for reading tomorrow nite
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
So who else goes today?

Revere?
Francoeur?
Harang?
Choke and $60m?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 31, 2015, 12:55:05 PM
wont be surprised to hear revere or francoeur's name
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Munson on July 31, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
Revere to the Jays
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on July 31, 2015, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: Munson on July 31, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
Revere to the Jays

for two pitchers
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 31, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
2 relief pitchers...both with "live" arms that can throw 95 plus but "need to figure it out"

anything for a guy who sucks is a good thing, i guess. 1 was ranked 9th in toronto's system. so, not a bad return for someone who they were just going to nontender anyway.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2015, 04:20:26 PM
If they can throw 95+, there's always a chance.

I guess this means it's Von Brown in RF the rest of the season.   :paranoid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on July 31, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
Playoffs?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2015, 04:40:59 PM
Someone posted this on the PSF board.  Gave me a chuckle.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLQ8CvtW8AAWq3g.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2015, 07:04:58 PM
Sounds like the guys the got for Revere are both power guys with 95+ fastballs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on July 31, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
Oh yeah?

Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
2 relief pitchers...both with "live" arms that can throw 95 plus but "need to figure it out"

anything for a guy who sucks is a good thing, i guess. 1 was ranked 9th in toronto's system. so, not a bad return for someone who they were just going to nontender anyway.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2015, 04:20:26 PM
If they can throw 95+, there's always a chance.

I guess this means it's Von Brown in RF the rest of the season.   :paranoid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2015, 08:26:43 PM
Si si Pedro
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 31, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
Oh yeah?

lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 08:59:23 PM
HOF on another one of those HOF type runs
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2015, 08:59:57 PM
Von Brown goes deep again.  Deepest part of the park.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on July 31, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
Pat the Bat Night!

The Braves look horrid so far this series.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2015, 10:19:52 PM
Hinojosa has some giddyup on his fastball

Get rid of the jersey number tho, vato...awful
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on July 31, 2015, 11:06:21 PM
your jersey number OCD thing is almost as weird as vuk's wife

almost
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on July 31, 2015, 11:30:32 PM
I don't deny its weird. But I've been like that since I was a kid.

All these dopes wearing 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s are stupid.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 01, 2015, 12:00:28 AM
its a jersey number, its of no concern to anything

id rather you finger vuk's wife (after rome is done)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2015, 12:28:40 AM
Jersey numbers are serious bidness

Don't you watch Ballers?!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
good start stud
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
Michael Jack, Stairs and T Mac had him as the second coming leading up to that first donger.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
five minutes into his career and he can't get lefties out
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 07:27:39 PM
rare great at bat by choke
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
GRIT does not make that play
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 08:14:16 PM
Franco out of control there.  Lucky he scored, more like lucky the throw sucked.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Choke has the most RBI in the NL since June 18th

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
That kid sat right back down like nothing happened after he almost reached over the railing.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 08:30:52 PM
speaking of the kid he has settled down real nice
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
Holy shtein!  ODH crushed that thing.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 08:42:56 PM
New and improved Choke. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2015, 09:20:47 PM
What's their magic number?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 09:21:54 PM
80
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 01, 2015, 09:58:04 PM
94 - lik in Hinojosa

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 01, 2015, 10:44:28 PM
Think the Phillies finish better than the Marlins.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 01, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on August 01, 2015, 10:44:28 PM
Think the Phillies finish better than the Marlins.

lil guy is hoping for this because you should try and win
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2015, 12:34:05 AM
i definitely want them to get the 1, but the fact that they are playing well is perhaps a sign that they have some talent on the roster....which means they might turn this around before 2021.

i dont know.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2015, 12:45:02 AM
QuoteMaikel Franco: .284/.343/.489 — 31 XBH

Kris Bryant: .245/.353/.437 — 34 XBH

Joc Pederson: .225/.348/.459 — 39 XBH

whats up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 02, 2015, 12:54:20 AM
two of them have real in the middle of a pennant race at bats

ill let you decide which two that is
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
they also have 2 months of at bats over franco

ill let you decide who those are
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 02, 2015, 01:05:55 AM
QuoteRyan Howard has more XBH this season than Abreu, Ortiz, Adam Jones, Braun, Pederson, Peralta, Brantley, Encarnacion, Cano, Prince Fielder

August waiver trade plz
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 02, 2015, 08:45:30 AM
His biggest problem is his walks are down this year.  His power numbers are back up but his OBP is zesty.   If he was sitting around .340 with his OBP I think they'd be able to move him by eating lots of his salary.  As is, not so sure.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 02, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
They're not going to compete for a playoff spot for at least as long as his contract runs.  No one is going to give anything in return for him and even if they did get someone to take him off their hands, they'd have to pay almost all of the money left on his deal.

They're stuck with him, end of story.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 02, 2015, 09:56:05 AM
they also have no other option to play 1B, i think thats the biggest thing (dont say rough)

if there was someone pushing choke out the door, like hernandez is with utley, youd probably see him gone. but since he has no real value on the trade market and you have no real option for even next year, youre basically just stuck with him.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 02, 2015, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 02, 2015, 09:56:05 AM
they also have no other option to play 1B, i think thats the biggest thing (dont say rough)

if there was someone pushing choke out the door, like hernandez is with utley, youd probably see him gone. but since he has no real value on the trade market and you have no real option for even next year, youre basically just stuck with him.

What, you don't want to see more of this?

(http://media.giphy.com/media/xO4CUR0ixve1O/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 04, 2015, 08:11:17 PM
Amazing standing ovation for Jimmy tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 04, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
interesting note:

nick williams playing CF tonight, not LF.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Another interesting note

Maik Maik!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 04, 2015, 10:43:23 PM
be real

you have no idea who nick williams is or why its significant that in his 1st game hes in center
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2015, 10:56:35 PM
I know exactly who he is - from Galveston btw - and what's it mean for Odouuuuble?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 04, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.

sorry to burst your bubble but they arent winning the world series in 2016
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 04, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
Oh how you've crushed me.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 05, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.


neither do you.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 05, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
How a team as horrible as this one was in the first half can go 13-3 afterward is beyond me.

Also - the Rollins/Ryno story was a great read.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 05, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
signifigant change to the team brought some enthusiasm - in particular, ryno leaving.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 05, 2015, 12:08:42 PM
You have to be their mommies and daddies now.   Too many years of everyone gets a trophy upbringings for this generation of athletes. 

Expecting grown men to play like professionals on the field and act the same way off of it really is too much to expect. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 05, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: smeags on August 05, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.


neither do you.

yea, i didnt mean j specifically (though j had galvis in the HOF earlier this year). i meant you as in everyone. apologies, apologies all around.



Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2015, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448

But playoff race ABs?!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 05, 2015, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 05, 2015, 12:08:42 PM
You have to be their mommies and daddies now.   Too many years of everyone gets a trophy upbringings for this generation of athletes. 

Expecting grown men to play like professionals on the field and act the same way off of it really is too much to expect. 

i hear you but that didnt seem to be the issue for the phils under sandberg. i just dont think he's a good manager. add that to a bad roster for a hof player to work with ?

its a nice lil run, with some guys that could possibly the future. still the worst team in baseball.

and of course, bacon.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 05, 2015, 01:37:49 PM
He was a terrible manager.  No doubt about it.  Doesn't make the overpaid babies any less responsible for their hideous play any more than Mackanin deserves credit for them being 13-3 since the break.  Good bosses make the job more enjoyable, though.  We all can attest to that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 05, 2015, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2015, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448 duffy .309/.346/.465

But playoff race ABs?!

gallo is in AAA and was in the bigs for like a week before they noticed the giant hole in his swing. duffy wasnt ranked high on some prospect list by a bunch of nerds and his AA highlights werent on baseball tonight so i guess he sucks? college fans are rankings whores.

franco is also protected by odubel herrera and ryan howard, where as the other 3 hit around all-stars and established MLers.

but since the 23 year old dominican is totally aware of what the playoffs are and not just thrilled to be in the bigs and nervous about staying there, his performance should be discounted. and for the record, right now, duffy is the ROY.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 05, 2015, 03:01:45 PM
franco's play so far has been encouraging. its refreshing seeing someone on the field that has some type of upside instead some of the crap this team has put out there.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on August 05, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.

time to confuse you more, then: he wasn't canned
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.

Two month bender?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 05, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
idea:

-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.

who says no.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 05, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
idea:

-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.

who says no.

Pretty sure Jimmy Rollins says no.  He'll still think he can start.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
Bring Jimmy back!

Oh btw

@ryanlawrence21: In his first two games since joining Reading after Hamels trade, Nick Williams is 5-for-8  with 2 HR, 3 RBI, 4 runs scored, a stolen base.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 05, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.

time to confuse you more, then: he wasn't canned

he quit? i realize i could google it but
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 05, 2015, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 05, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
idea:

-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.

who says no.

Pretty sure Jimmy Rollins says no.  He'll still think he can start.

yea, im not sure anyone is going to give him a job outright next year. hes also 22/23 among SSs in WAR. cant imagine hed get anything more than a "if you earn it." thats why it makes a ton of sense of the legend to come home for a swan song.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 06, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
They just rid themselves of Papelbon & Revere and are this close to doing the same with Utley and you want to bring back Rollins?

For farg's sake what is wrong with you?  Just let Galvis keep the seat warm for Crawford, or better yet, just bring him up.  But God forbid he starts his farging "clock" too early.  Can't have that!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
jimmy is an all time legend on a level even GRIT cant dream of getting to...DONT YOU fargING EVER AGAIN MENTION SOMEONE LIKE JONTHAN PAPLEBON OR BEN REVERE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS THE g-o-d

jimmy come home baby!!

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 06, 2015, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 06, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
They just rid themselves of Papelbon & Revere and are this close to doing the same with Utley and you want to bring back Rollins?

For farg's sake what is wrong with you?  Just let Galvis keep the seat warm for Crawford, or better yet, just bring him up.  But God forbid he starts his farging "clock" too early.  Can't have that!

bringing back jimmy on a 1-year deal to end his career would do absolutely nothing negative to them. and like igy said, to compare the legend to those POS' is horrible. you suck.

galvis "keeping the seat warm" accomplishes nothing. so you call up jp when he's ready (it has nothing to do with his clock, though service time threshold is an essential part of the business, im sorry if that's too complicated for you), then galvis sits on the bench? oh great, 2-3 months of freddy galvis. that was important.

its not going to happen, i made the whole thing up. but to me it makes sense.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 10:02:57 AM
kevin garnett did it for more than one year and he never won shtein there....then hes gonna move into the organization

sounds good to me
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 06, 2015, 10:05:01 AM
Zzzzzz...  Get on with the rebuild and leave the fossils buried where they belong.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 06, 2015, 10:53:32 AM
that really doesnt make any sense. bringing back jimmy would not impede the rebuild at all, in fact it would help JP to be around the legend. maybe something can wear off on him.

galvis id reckon could net them a bullpen arm or a some organizational pitching depth. with jp 2-3 months in AAA away from being ready, galvis has no actual future here. so why not get something for him, bring back the legend and let him ride off into the sunset? i promise it wont get in the way of you getting shteinfaced at the bar watching ufc.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
jimmy is an all time legend on a level even GRIT cant dream of getting to...DONT YOU fargING EVER AGAIN MENTION SOMEONE LIKE JONTHAN PAPLEBON OR BEN REVERE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS THE g-o-d

jimmy come home baby!!

Amen.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
A five spot against Greinke eh? Sheesh
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 06, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
dom brown with a 3 run jack

its finally happening for him!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
phillies raping grienke...ridiculous
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 06, 2015, 02:43:18 PM
... and still losing.  :-D
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 06, 2015, 07:24:13 PM
Gee, and I really thought Dave Buchanan was turning the corner.

He sucks every which way but loose.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 06, 2015, 07:25:39 PM
J, loving your boy #94.  He's throwing like he's pissed off.  Like it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2015, 07:29:42 PM
Yeah man and they just sent him down - hopefully he gets back in Sept

Nasty stuff
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 06, 2015, 07:43:14 PM
The Phillies put up 6 on Zach Greinke and managed to find a way to lose.

That takes talent, my friends.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
6 runs against zach grienke count the same as six runs vs any other pitcher....just sayin

they also count less than 7 runs vs David Buchanan
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 06, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
the phillies swept the cubs a few weeks ago. the cubs are still a lot better than the phillies.

the phillies hit zach grienke a bit. zach grineke is still a really good pitcher.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 06, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
Greinke gave up the exact same number of earned runs today as he gave up in his last NINE starts combined. 

You get to a guy like him like that, you typically expect a win on most days.





Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 06, 2015, 11:48:32 PM
Not with David Buchanan pitching.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 07, 2015, 06:18:03 AM
pretty much
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2015, 12:09:40 AM
HOF and Choke with homers

McClure tossed for arguing with the ump over his lousy inconsistent zone he gave to Nola
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 08, 2015, 02:10:36 AM
Up 4-3 top 12.   All 4 runs on dongs by HOF, Choke, Asche and Rupp.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
tied with the marlins for worst record

uh oh
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 08, 2015, 08:37:48 AM
They had the #1 pick locked.  Nice job, iceholes.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 08, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
And I was so looking forward to them screwing that up too.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 08, 2015, 09:10:19 PM
Hell of a job by Herrera using his legs to get the second run.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 08, 2015, 11:35:26 PM
get a bat and an arm in the offeseason and make a playoff push?

sign up sheet:
1. j
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 08, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
Give me proper credit, bitch - I'm 1-10 on that list. Lonely bus driver here.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 02:32:11 AM
white doods homer fightin Phils same kids who need eric rowe to be all world

please continue....
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 AM
English por favor
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 03:05:13 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 AM
English por favor

you more than anyone is fluent in homerish
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 03:31:34 AM
I speak bits and pieces of it
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 03:36:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 03:31:34 AM
I speak bits and pieces of it

lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 09, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
next year:

hernandez-herrera-cespedes-howard-franco-montero-galvis/jp-asche/williams

zimmerman-chen-nola-morgan-1 of 1000 in-house options

90 wins. playoffs.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 09, 2015, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 02:32:11 AM
white doods homer fightin Phils same kids who need eric rowe to be all world

please continue....

I'm holding out for G. J. Kinne's HOF induction.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 12:44:26 PM
speaking of....I had to laugh at the big article yesterday about the amazing camp he is having
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 04:16:40 PM
love watching these two guys at the top of the order
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 04:41:43 PM
there's a jeromes furniture ad on the wall behind home plate
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 05:34:30 PM
Odub with another bomb
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
wow odie turned on that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 09, 2015, 07:16:16 PM
16-5 since the break. 

(http://media.giphy.com/media/101tbk7XII0toY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 09, 2015, 07:17:57 PM
utley making a case to get traded, too

could pick up another organization depth arm
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 09, 2015, 07:22:18 PM
Chase hooked a little Phillies fan up with an autograph.  Of course the kid's name was also Chase.

GRIT
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
80?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 09, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
It's been nice watching this team play decent baseball again for the last three weeks.  They're still awful but it's made waiting for the Eagles to start up again a little more bearable.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 09, 2015, 08:10:14 PM
Bums (presently) > training camp fodder
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 09, 2015, 09:28:17 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
80?

35-15 the rest of the way will do it.  Still a tall order.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 10, 2015, 10:12:57 AM
def nice watching the young bucks on this run. gives us something to possibly look forward to for the future.

now please make a move with Utley. like lil guy said, even for just some more pitching depth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 10:28:10 AM
thats all you would get for him....somewhere around the same return they got for papelbon, maybe a little less. im assuming the phillies will eat the rest of utley's salary this year to get back someone that might be able to be a ML pitcher. thats basically all youre looking for here.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
they are getting complete garbage for GRIT

might as well keep him at this point
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 10:32:41 AM
hes not going to retire after this year, so you cant even keep him for nostalgia purposes. on top of that, the only reason hes playing is to showcase him for a trade. theyd prefer to go with galvis/hernandez every day until the end of the season.

like i said, organization depth arm. youre looking for a guy who, if everything shakes out right, could be a dependable ML pitcher, but odds are is going to be david buchanan. but, if you have like 10 of those guys in your organization, you gotta figure 1 or 2 are going to reach their full potential. so, you know, organizational depth.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
I don't care about trading him but you are not getting a guy who will ever spend even five minutes in the bigs

that's if anyone even wants him

hes hitting like 160
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2015, 10:57:52 AM
Some team like the Cubs or Angels will take him for his GRIT
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 10, 2015, 11:21:17 AM
something is better than nothing in this case. no reason to keep utley the rest of the season just to see him walk. take what you can get.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 10, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
Get rid of Chase but get Jimmy back.

Science.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 11:42:12 AM
GRIT is no gawd
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 10, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
neither is jimmy.   
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 12:17:56 PM
yeah he pretty much is....in fact he's probably the greatest Phillie ever
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 10, 2015, 01:02:13 PM
He's no Sal Fasano.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 01:08:42 PM
lol....they made t shirts for that farging guy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on August 10, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
The Phils bought ex-Brave Tyler Pastornicky from the Rangers
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2015, 04:25:49 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 12:17:56 PM
yeah he pretty much is....in fact he's probably the greatest Phillie ever

Yep.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 10, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.t7%2fPo9CBGXMOXc8V2OrCFQ&pid=15.1&P=0)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
jimmy is black though, and j saw him play. therefore...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
Schmidt was a better player but not a better Phillie
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2015, 05:32:26 PM
How much of a salty hater has lil guy become?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 10, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
Schmidt was a better player but not a better Phillie

Was at a bbq yesterday and the Mike Schmidt was a jerk stories came out. Everybody has one.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on August 10, 2015, 07:00:13 PM
Chase is leading off and playing 1B, with Odubel in the 3 spot
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2015, 05:32:26 PM
How much of a salty hater has lil guy become?

yea the guy in the hall of fame and unquestioned great 3B ever is def. not as good as jimmy rollins....who is super awesome because you watched him play!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 10, 2015, 07:08:10 PM
I mean Rollins is my favorite Phillie who I've watched but he's not in the convo with Schmidt or Carlton.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 07:37:01 PM
exactly

rollins can be your favorite player...if thats your thing...but he aint on michael jack's level
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 10, 2015, 08:10:15 PM
Schmidt is the greatest Phillie ever.  Jimmy Rollins is in the top 5 but he's not higher than Carlton or Robin Roberts either.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 10, 2015, 11:18:00 PM
id actually put him ahead of robby simply because jimmy won a title

its not roberts' fault they never won anything, but still. this wretched franchise has won 2 titles in like 130 years of existence.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 10, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
JRolls 2007 was one for the ages and his triple in that last game against Washington to get them into the playoffs was beautiful but Steve Carlton's 1972 season where he went 27-10 pitching for a junior high team that barely won 60 games was remarkable.

Jimmy's game 4 NLCS hit off Braxton will always be a top 5 Phillies moment for me.  Oh, and the HR he hit at Milwaukee in 2008 in game 4 was like "OK, get the farg out of here Brewers.  We're done and moving on".  That was awesome too.

shtein, maybe Jimmy is God.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 10, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Franco launched one tonight at AZ. 

Aaron Harrang is awful.  He is officially the goofiest dude in MLB.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 10, 2015, 11:59:25 PM
Nice spoonful of reality tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 11, 2015, 12:04:52 AM
farg me for staying up for this

At least I saw the Franco blast
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 05:54:46 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 10, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
JRolls 2007 was one for the ages and his triple in that last game against Washington to get them into the playoffs was beautiful but Steve Carlton's 1972 season where he went 27-10 pitching for a junior high team that barely won 60 games was remarkable.

Jimmy's game 4 NLCS hit off Braxton will always be a top 5 Phillies moment for me.  Oh, and the HR he hit at Milwaukee in 2008 in game 4 was like "OK, get the farg out of here Brewers.  We're done and moving on".  That was awesome too.

shtein, maybe Jimmy is God.

plus he was the ultimate mets troll and single handedly willed the team to overtake them...it's just not a comparison for best Phillie btwn him and Schmitty and I love MJ
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 11, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 10, 2015, 08:10:15 PM
Schmidt is the greatest Phillie ever.  Jimmy Rollins is in the top 5 but he's not higher than Carlton or Robin Roberts either.

this. its not even close. igy just hates white people.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2015, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 05:54:46 AM
single handedly willed the team to overtake them.

the mets werent some juggernaut...they won 1 nl east title with that group. then they gagged for 2 straight seasons. i dont think jimmy had a ton to do with tom glavine getting ripped up by the marlins on the last day of the season.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 11:54:03 AM
mets are irrelevant.....jimmy had everything to do with changing the culture of the phillies and making them believe they could win....something a schmidt GRIT or choke was incapable of doing because of their personalities...the 80 phillies needed a pete rose for this same reason
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
how did he change the culture of the phillies

they pretty much had the same core from like 05-12 and won 1 world series in that span. jimmy pretty much arrived in 2001.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 11, 2015, 12:15:19 PM
He talked shtein in the press and backed it up. 

That's what's important, dude.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:17:23 PM
he got them to believe they could win and they did....he was the unquestioned leader of that team and they dont win without him

everthing changed when he said we are the team to beat in the spring of 07....then went out and won the mvp behind that and finally got them in the playoffs which then obviously turned into a ws title a year later

not sure why this needs explanation if you followed the team at all back then
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 11, 2015, 12:25:40 PM
No one is denigrating Rollins.  Pretty sure he's fairly popular here.  MJS though is one of the best players of all time, hit .381 with 2 HRs in the World Series, and was a lifer.  I give Rollins as much credit as anyone for this core's success but he just isn't the same caliber player Schmidt was.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:28:52 PM
again...schmidt better player but rollins better phillie
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 11, 2015, 12:31:26 PM
lol
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:43:15 PM
thats like saying lindros was a better flyer than rick tocchet or the bedwetter was a better eagle than jaws
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2015, 12:43:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:17:23 PM
he got them to believe they could win and they did....he was the unquestioned leader of that team and they dont win without him

everthing changed when he said we are the team to beat in the spring of 07....then went out and won the mvp behind that and finally got them in the playoffs which then obviously turned into a ws title a year later

not sure why this needs explanation if you followed the team at all back then

everything changed so much so the phillies needed a historic mets collapse to even make the playoffs. jimmy did have a great personal season, though. sure.

the thing about those glory years is they didnt really have a "leader." jimmy had swagger and flair, utley had intensity, victorino brought spark and energy, hamels brought the menstrual cycle. it was all there.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 11, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Destilupfrontating is my new favorite word.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:49:45 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 11, 2015, 12:43:43 PM
the thing about those glory years is they didnt really have a "leader."


bwahahaha....you either trolling or you didnt watch those teams...were you in texas then?

if you think schmidt was a better phillie then fine..thats a valid take...but to say jimmy wasnt the leader of the phils then is outrageous
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2015, 12:54:38 PM
sees what happening here is some good old fashioned revisionist history.

look, you are a bleeding heart liberal. and a contrarian. you personally like jimmy more than utley. you have a preferred race and like going against whatever the consensus popular thing is. this is established, even beyond this particular situation.

so now youve built it up into your mind that jimmy, who was essentially the same person from the moment he arrived -- confident, slick, full of swagger -- was the one to personally push the phillies over the top. this is not true. he was A reason. he was one of the big reasons. but it wasnt just jimmy. it was everyone. they were a pretty good team, allbeit one that simply didnt perform well enough in the playoffs after 2008. jimmy included.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
you dont think he was the team leader but im a contrarian?....you are just making up stuff to make it up...im stating all facts

jimmy wasnt the only one on the field to do it (obviously but he was the single solitary reason why the clubhouse was able to win

no jimmy no title....and other than heidi (and possibly lidge) hes the only player on the team you can say that about
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 11, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
if anyone wonders why so many people have stopped posting here, this is why.


Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 11, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
cut him some slack rome, he already went from single handedly, to maybe hamels and lidge were just as important.

progress !



Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on August 11, 2015, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 11, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
if anyone wonders why so many people have stopped posting here, this is why.


Trust me. No one wonders. In fact, Dio more or less nailed it. 

Quote from: Diomedes on August 08, 2015, 09:03:29 PM
He's not a fan.  He's a mental ward candidate.  [...]

His schtick online is to be as invidious as possible, and his principal need is attention attention attention.  Never been wrong, everything is the best or the worst, everyone else is an idiot, or a homer, or MA, or whatever. 

Haven't we been down this road.  Doesn't the guy just eat it up that we are talking about him?

What's amazing is IGY's stamina for this. He's a bottomless well, and there is no fulfilling whatever need he has that drives this behavior. Long after others have given up he is still here arguing every point to its bitter nonsensical end. It's really something to behold.

Actually the other amazing thing is that despite the unchanging endlessness of his online persona, he is a pretty quiet and agreeable dude in person. Clearly this is where he vents all of his pent up weirdness.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 11, 2015, 03:44:01 PM
I admire his fortitude
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on August 11, 2015, 03:45:14 PM
It's pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 11, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
the internet is fun. even fat kids can seem cool.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on August 11, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
Well there goes the only reason to watch the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 11, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
Hopefully Hellickson takes one in the back

Or Goldschmidt
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 11, 2015, 10:19:25 PM
Buchanan is horrible. Carry on
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 11, 2015, 11:45:12 PM
franco's going to be fine

not sure buchanan is good at pitching
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 11, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
I went to put my daughter to bed, and it's 1-0 Phils.

I come back out, and it's 11-1 D-Backs.

David.  Buchanan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 12, 2015, 02:54:39 AM
Not that this train wreck was going anywhere but it was pretty cool to watch.  Last two nights really brought it to a crash landing.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 12, 2015, 08:21:30 AM
we all knew the little run the team went on was not going to go for too long. still saw some good things out there. obviously this team needs arms. other than the likes of Buchanan.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 12, 2015, 11:40:56 AM
phils are back to being the worst team in baseball, which is a good thing

you idiots realize they need to lose
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 12, 2015, 11:54:12 AM
thankfully we have our resident mensa heeb to point these things out to us.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: rjs246 on August 12, 2015, 12:15:47 PM
I actually enjoy following this team much more now that they've dumped so much of their aging crap. Watching young, barely professional players lose is way more enjoyable than watching old, barely professional players lose.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 12, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
That's the point I was making earlier in the thread.  They have some talent out there who aren't thisclose to filing retirement papers.  It's not the best talent ever but at least it's marginally promising.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 12, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
yes and we better see someone on the dbacks get plunked today.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 13, 2015, 11:40:14 PM
Apparently the Giants made an offer for Utley.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 14, 2015, 02:05:20 AM
Gritty by the bay
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 14, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
#7 system in baseball according to mlb.com

tops in the nl east

top 3 pick coming next june, too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2015, 12:58:56 AM
Heard on the radio he's gonna choose between the Angels and Cubbies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 15, 2015, 03:53:41 PM
Twenty-five years ago today.  25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CBguleFR3w
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2015, 10:07:10 PM
I remember it from the cut in on ESPN

Lived in Kansas at the time

Solid footage of Carmelo Martinez, Jose DeJesus, Sil Campusano and Rod Booker
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 15, 2015, 11:58:24 PM
white peoples
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 16, 2015, 01:22:42 AM
the nationals are 6-12 since acquiring papelbon

1:
phi 46 80
mia 46
col 47
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 16, 2015, 01:24:04 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2015, 11:58:24 PM
white peoples

Ok?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 18, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
mike mike go night night for the season
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 18, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
Swell, one of the only reasons to watch this ship wreck.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 18, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
is hinkie magic wearing off on amaro?

phils need to get that 1....give all starts to jerome williams please
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on August 19, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
Rosenthal said that Utley may be traded today
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on August 19, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
Sounds like the Dodgers.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
how awesome would it be if it was for jimmy

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 19, 2015, 03:42:18 PM
I'm sure he'd be thrilled at the prospect of going from a 1st place team to the worst in MLB. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2015, 03:51:45 PM
2 minor leaguers coming back

i cant imagine its much considering los doyers are paying 1/3rd of his salary and hes a 6 week bench bat rental
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 04:42:29 PM
stat i just saw

GRIT and jimmy had 60 or more extra base hits and 15 or more sb each in three different seasons

every other ss/2b duo in history of league has a combined one
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 19, 2015, 04:44:12 PM
Now both back in cali. Be cool to see them win another ring together.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 19, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
yeah, no it wouldn't.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 19, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
No, love ya Bionic but farg the Doyers.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
Ah well thanks for 2008 Grit

South Jerz women losing their shtein tonight?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 19, 2015, 07:03:33 PM
Todd!  It's Temple University Night at CBP.  The entire Owl football team is there.  Do it!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 19, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
Oh, and for our resident nerds its also Star Wars Night at the bank.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 19, 2015, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane

almost as obnoxious as the rollins fluffing from others...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 19, 2015, 07:43:39 PM
Now you've done it!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
darnell sweeney 1 of the players coming back

-hes black
-hes a switch hitter
-hell turn 25 next season
-10hr power, 30sb potential

not a bad get back for a fossil rental like utley. between altherr, williams, herrera and this dude, they very likely will wind up with at least 2 quality ML players.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 19, 2015, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane

almost as obnoxious as the rollins fluffing from others...

thats pretty much just me

the entire phillies planet was in tears today...for jimmy it was like 25% good riddance and 75% they have to rebuild

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2015, 09:50:29 PM
For Jimmy it was...

"You're on the WIP morning show! Go ahead Retardo from Downingtown..."

"Is t it great that J-Stroll is gone, Ang? He can go pop up and not run grounders out in LA. Perfect place for him, Ang!"

Anyways...Altherr looked good tonight. When he was up before he showed no signs of being any good. Definitely picked his game up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 19, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
I had more of a reaction when Rollins was traded.  Maybe because he was my favorite modern Phil, maybe because he was the first of the core to go.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2015, 11:26:18 PM
Sweeney will be on the ML roster and Eickhoff is starting Friday
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 19, 2015, 11:27:44 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2015, 09:50:29 PM
For Jimmy it was...

"You're on the WIP morning show! Go ahead Retardo from Downingtown..."

"Is t it great that J-Stroll is gone, Ang? He can go pop up and not run grounders out in LA. Perfect place for him, Ang!"

Anyways...Altherr looked good tonight. When he was up before he showed no signs of being any good. Definitely picked his game up

that never happened
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
Oh really? You're denying that people celebrated Jimmy leaving?!

Did you completely forget the rip jobs that people gave Jimmy on a routine basis?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 05:59:59 AM
it certainly wasn't the majority but a solid minority of people loved it when he went and the rest were apathetic...the media and a select number of fans were distraught...unlike yesterday where pretty much everyone was acting like  their mother died including media members who GRIT gave no copy too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 06:48:42 AM
Marcus Hayes nails it...

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150820_Chase_Utley_was_the_man.html

And you jackasses are ridiculous.  This isn't news, however.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 07:02:24 AM
as usual you completely miss the point.....this isnt about GRIT being super GRITty its about him getting more love than jimmy and choke combined....GRIT was incredible
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
use your words.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 20, 2015, 08:01:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
use your words.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 07:02:24 AM
Utley is white
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:07:28 AM
http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/144245554/darnell-sweeney-john-richy-have-potential
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
Getting their 13th ranked prospect for a six week rental is absurd especially after the waiver deadline.

I don't know who's making the deals for them but someone deserves an attaboy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 20, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 20, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
Quote from: SD on August 20, 2015, 08:01:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
use your words.

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 07:02:24 AM
Utley is white

Ding ding ding
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
Getting their 13th ranked prospect for a six week rental is absurd especially after the waiver deadline.

I don't know who's making the deals for them but someone deserves an attaboy.

13th is pretty low for a "prospect" that will turn 25 before next year....but i would have taken a bag of fat burgers for GRIT so i agree the return is solid....to me th best part of the deal is getting the dodgers 13th best prospect and having him not even be able to crack the phillies top ten....shows how far the fightins system has come

Quote from: SD on August 20, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them

choke and chooch are obvious...dont know the other
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 09:34:26 AM
thats a little misleading because young guys are "under contract" they just dont have their salaries determined yet

but the answer is matt harrison
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
Oh really? You're denying that people celebrated Jimmy leaving?!

Did you completely forget the rip jobs that people gave Jimmy on a routine basis?

i didnt see any celebration of jimmy leaving...at the most there was some "it's time." but yes, again, the gritty good looking hustling white dude is more beloved than the black dude who took at bats off and thought he was barry bonds at points. amazing. i cant believe it. lets whine about it some more.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG

i totally forgot he existed, even though ive seen tweets that hes been pitching for the gulf coast team.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 10:21:08 AM
Bacon
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 20, 2015, 11:10:05 AM
Bacon and grits
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 20, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG

MAG isn't a Phillie though
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 02:28:12 PM
He's not on the 40.

ARGUE WITH THAT!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
he will be after he dominates in clearwater next spring
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 20, 2015, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: SD on August 20, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them

Choke
Chooch
Lee?


Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 20, 2015, 06:10:02 PM
Howard, Ruiz, and the pitcher they got back for Hamels with the bad back.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 07:40:02 PM
Jerome Williams has to truly be the worst starter in the majors

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
It takes a superhuman effort to be as comically awful as this team has been, and the Jerome Williamses of the world are a perfect fit it your intention in signing him is to toss a warm body out there as a sixth guy in a five guy rotation.

The thing he's never been good.  Ever.  He's been to varying degrees mediocre to outright awful from the moment he started pitching in the Major Leagues.  He wasn't supposed to be anything more than a stop-gap and that's exactly what he's been.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
except this is Jerome Williams 20th start of the season
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
lol 1.2 and 8 now

and this I don't think is even his worst start this year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 08:21:40 PM
williams: -0.3 war, 1.58 whip, 5.47 era
shane greene: -1.7 war, 1.55 whip, 6.88 era
buchanan: -1.5 war, 1.57 whip, 9.00 era
guthrie: -1.5 war, 1.57 whip, 5.65 era

buchanan only has 10 starts, compared to the 20+ for the other dudes. but that 9 flat era is something special. also williams stats dont include tonight.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
except this is Jerome Williams 20th start of the season

They picked him up off the scrap heap in Texas last year and he proceeded to not be the worst pitcher in the universe.

So, of course, naturally Roob decides that the best course of action is to sign him to the most lucrative contract of his farging career despite the fact that he's sucked every other place he's ever been.

It's the Phillies way, bro.  Embrace it. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 08:29:19 PM
complaining about jerome williams making 2.5 mil on a 1 year deal for a team that knew it was losing 100 games is really a stretch

but i still like you
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
I actually like him...i mean if you are going to suck it's sorta neat to be able to legit say you might have the single worst SP in mlb on your team....there's a lot of pitchers in the league
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 20, 2015, 08:39:42 PM
im not even sure if hes the worst....jeremy guthrie is having a special season and hes doing it for a very good team

williams would have been DFAed if not for the phillies being horrible
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 20, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
The Phillies knew they were going to be horrible so they signed this bag of dicks to ensure it.  Yes, I understand that.  No, I don't care what they paid him.  I just thought it was comical that they paid him the highest salary of his career when every other major league team would have undoubtedly given him the veteran minimum, if that.  They also gave Aaron Harang a small fortune, and of course, he hasn't earned a dime of it either, but at least he had past seasons where he was a really good pitcher.  Not anytime recently, obviously, but still...

This team sucks.  It was going to suck whether they signed them or not.  And although I don't care about their payroll per se, I just find it amusing that this team continued signing these losers to some fairly lusty and generous deals when every other team said, uhhhh, pass.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 07:39:01 AM
eickhoff getting the start tonight....gonna be a lot of debuts in the next couple of years...exciting even when its not a great prospect....anything better than the garbage of the last two years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 21, 2015, 08:04:41 AM
so true. even a glimmer of hope is better than the quicksand of shtein that team had become.

next, give lee his payout after the season and bye bye to him. after that, does howard get released ? what else is there to do with him ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
its the marlins but this bum is actually pitching ok
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:17:56 PM
mowing them the farg down
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 21, 2015, 08:19:01 PM
Great play by Rupp!  Yes, the guy er, ah, "sprinting" home was moving slower than molasses but it was a great tag.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:23:33 PM
is odie the new jimmy?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 21, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
Yep!  The dude is awesome.  I love his attitude, confident almost like "I'm getting a farging hit of it kills me"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
yeah his personality is pretty much jimmy cept he can't speak English and jimmy is from the west coast Baltimore
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:35:22 PM
god the Marlins suck
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:39:01 PM
this is a joke

at least the fightins are still tryin
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 21, 2015, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
yeah his personality is pretty much jimmy cept he can't speak English and jimmy is from the west coast Baltimore

LOL
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2015, 12:48:22 AM
Seems like Eickhoff did well?

How was his stuff?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 04:28:34 AM
He pitched very well, got lucky on a few such as when Ozuna ripped one just foul down the first base line that would have plated two and the double by Ozuna and the relay home that got the slug out at the plate on Rupp's nice tag. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2015, 06:02:47 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2015, 12:48:22 AM
Seems like Eickhoff did well?

How was his stuff?

horrendous to me....looked liked batting practice
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 22, 2015, 06:04:29 AM
Eickhoff pitched ok.  His stuff isn't great, though.  He's got middle/back of the rotation stuff, but he looked like a battler, and after watching the likes of Williams & Buchanon all year, mediocrity's a welcome sight.   I have to say he was doing it against the Marlins, though, and yes, they are definitely worse than the Phillies, records not withstanding.

That stadium looks and sounds like a garish tomb.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2015, 06:14:06 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 22, 2015, 06:04:29 AM
but he looked like a battler

dare i say he was GRITty?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 22, 2015, 06:31:51 AM
He threw strikes, didn't walk a ton of people and didn't give up a run.

Mock.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2015, 06:39:01 AM
i know easy and romey you are no easy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 22, 2015, 06:49:58 AM
The most surprising thing about that game was watching Howard rip the ball for three doubles.  He looked like 2006 vintage Choke Dog last night.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 22, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
they have a ton of internal backend options....eickhoff is 1 of them

like i said before theyre likely going to have to go outside the system to top off the rotation, but they should be able to easily afford that. but the good thing is they are deep with quasi-ML pitching, so in the case of injury or ineffectiveness in 2017/18, they wont have to go to a gas can arm or sean o'sullivan or something.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
sweeney!!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
LOL at Dee Gordon asking $5K for Sweeney's HR ball
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
Sweeney and Altherr doing the damn thang
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
yes the bums are 9,000 games out but I can't stand the Marlins.  Goes back to Dan Uggla and his bullshtein plus the phony fan base.  Announced crowd of 22K?  yea right, and J and I just got called up.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 22, 2015, 09:48:30 PM
not a good night....colorado and cincy both gonna lose
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2015, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
yes the bums are 9,000 games out but I can't stand the Marlins.  Goes back to Dan Uggla and his bullshtein plus the phony fan base.  Announced crowd of 22K?  yea right, and J and I just got called up.

Cody Ross can farg himself too
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 22, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
Can't win these must-lose games.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 23, 2015, 08:11:36 AM
Sweeney's dinger was a bomb pop.  Loved the cold shoulder treatment and his reaction to it too.  The team still sucks but it's actually gotten fun to watch some youngsters out there getting their feet wet.  Too bad this shtein didn't start happening two years ago.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 23, 2015, 03:26:25 PM
thats sweeneys third walk today
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 23, 2015, 05:21:58 PM
good game, bad win
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2015, 07:33:46 AM
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205963857628012

Daily News goodbye from Grit
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 24, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Howard just went deep on deGrom.  Teams have one week before the playoff deadline... anyone in the AL need a DH?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
hes not movable until next deadline
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2015, 07:59:31 PM
Play spoiler against Los Mets
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 24, 2015, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 24, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
hes not movable until next deadline

I know, but a guy can dream.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on August 24, 2015, 09:13:30 PM
bandbox special tonight. 9 HRs through 5 innings

EDIT: now 10, a new CBP record
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 24, 2015, 07:59:31 PM
Play spoiler against Los Mets

draft pick >>> wins
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 24, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
History was made tonight

Combined home runs in a national league game...11...ties the record
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 24, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
florida and colorado lost, gotta give the phils credit for laying down
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on August 24, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: SD on August 24, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
History was made tonight

Combined home runs in a national league game...11...ties the record

First time since the 23-22 game
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 25, 2015, 10:18:46 AM
red sox are letting don orsillo go, for some reason

phils would be wise to jump on that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 25, 2015, 10:23:45 AM
hire a lifelong red sox fan from boston to announce for the phillies.....yeah terrible idea

just move franzke up....this is so easy

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 25, 2015, 10:35:09 AM
if they were going to go with franzke they wouldve done it already
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 25, 2015, 10:48:26 AM
if they were going with anyone new they would have done it already...theres a time for everything

the point is IF they are ready for a pbp addition to the tv booth then franzke is the answer....not a red sox lifer
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on August 25, 2015, 11:24:02 AM
yeah franzke is a no brainer.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 25, 2015, 07:45:09 PM
Jerome Williams you clown.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 25, 2015, 09:51:10 PM
Ha - Bowa gets thrown out for going ballistic after Robles quick-pitches Ruf.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 25, 2015, 09:52:27 PM
Needed to do that last night.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
https://vine.co/v/ej65nTHFrBz

Haha was he telling the pitcher he was gonna get hit?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 25, 2015, 10:43:14 PM
huge loss tonight....marlins and rockies won

i wish they would play the mets every night - guaranteed L and the best broadcast in the game
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on August 26, 2015, 12:44:46 AM
The quotes coming out of this quick-pitch debacle are great. Travis d'Arnaud sounds like he wants to be back with the Phillies. He threw his pitcher under the bus.

Quote"I just know the guy's head was down," d'Arnaud said. "I think the rule is you can't throw it until at least they're looking at him. So I was telling him to wait. He threw it. You never know what could happen in that situation when you're looking down and something like that happens."

As for Bowa and the Phillies' reaction, d'Arnaud added: "It's just a coach who's trying to protect his players. You've got a competitive organization. They're not called the Fightin' Phils for no reason. They back each other up. That's all I saw was he's just trying to fight for his players."

D'Arnaud had actually apologized to the Phillies an inning earlier, when he appeared to flip his bat after drawing a bases-loaded walk that tied the score. D'Arnaud said he had too much pine tar and the bat stuck in his hand before it went flying.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 09:38:03 AM
Bowa losing it towards Murphy cracked me up

Yankees got pissy at Gomez last night too. Too bad McCann wasn't behind the plate.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on August 26, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
I think it was sunny who posted the greatest Bowa video ever a few years ago. It was when he was with the Cubs and he kept calling the guy a funhole from the dugout and was making funhole hang gesters. I can't find it anywhere but if anyone can find that gem please post it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
lolol I remember that

I'll see if I can dig it up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on August 26, 2015, 11:51:23 AM
it was when he was on the padres and i can't find it on youtube anymore
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2015, 03:43:02 PM
That's right the Cubs one is Lee Elia

Dead spin search may pull up the Bowa one
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 26, 2015, 03:44:38 PM
i love cranky old white dudes

if it was the other way around bowa would be besides himself....but since its this way hes screaming about the unwritten rules.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on August 27, 2015, 07:18:29 AM
phils - 50 (on the way to 80)
marlins - 51
rocks - 51
reds - 52
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 27, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13517750/philadelphia-phillies-future-looks-bright-lead-them

The goldmine quote is...interesting

As is the info about PHIL
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 27, 2015, 12:55:27 PM
just about to link that...good story

cherington would be a disaster. farg that guy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on August 27, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
One good thing about the Phillies being in total rebuild mode is in a couple of years when the young talent hits the Majors and the team is good again, it will be the Phillies reaming pieces of shtein like Aaron Harang out of 5-run leads.

Can't come soon enough.

Ugh...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on August 28, 2015, 01:13:06 AM
Harrang makes Jerome Williams look like a Cy Young Candiidate.  He is pure awful. 

The way Mets Nation owned CBP this week was infuriating.  It was a farging home series for the Mets.  In the words of Todd "farging South Jersey"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
Alec Asher called up to start Sunday
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
All he does is hit for extra bases...Altherrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 28, 2015, 10:07:35 PM
Nola pitched well tonight. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 28, 2015, 11:15:27 PM
granted theyre against 2 awful teams, but 2 dominating starts for nola

he looks like a solid mid rotation guy thus far. maybe can creep up if he learns "how to win." see j i used a stupid baseball cliche!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 29, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
Von Brown is a tall and slender athlete with long legs, but he looks like he's running in mud when going around the bases.  Just seems like he should be faster.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on August 31, 2015, 11:25:50 PM
phils 52
rockies 52 (4 more games to play than US)
marlins 53
redlegs 53
bravos 54
brewers 55
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on September 01, 2015, 05:00:02 AM
OMG the Phillies might lose out on the next Matt Bush!

That first draft pick has what, like a 50% chance to be a good player on the team that drafted him when he finally comes up to the bigs four years from now, assuming he's not a high school kid who decides to go to college or declines to sign, in a team sport in which one player makes a marginal difference even if he's a Hall of Fame player. If the Phillies slip down to the second or third picks, those odds might go down to.... 49%.

Yeah... tanking in baseball...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on September 01, 2015, 05:06:21 AM
By the way the only time in the last 25 years that a #1 overall pick went on to win the World Series on the team that drafted him was Pat the Bat.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 01, 2015, 05:54:13 AM
no matter the chances of a player making it having your team have the number one overall pick in any sport is an awesome thing...plus I want jason  groom bad

let's do this!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 01, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
to a certain extent qb is right....baseball drafting is the ultimate crapshoot....but consider:

2007   David Price
2008   Tim Beckham
2009   Stephen Strasburg
2010   Bryce Harper
2011   Gerrit Cole
2012   Carlos Correa   
2013   Mark Appel   
2014   Brady Aiken
2015   Dansby Swanson   

so since 07, theres really been 1 real misfire and beckham has had drug and injury problems his entire career. so you never know about that.

the phils dont have a 100% chance to find a great player with the 1, but they certainly have a better chance than if they had the 2
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 01, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
it doesnt matter if theres a 1% chance of the pick making it

having the number one overall pick is a great thing...even if its only for psychological purposes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2015, 11:12:55 AM
Normally I would agree with l'il guy here, but this is the Phillies we're talking about.

They couldn't find water if they fell out of a boat.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 01, 2015, 11:57:17 AM
that argument makes no sense....in the past 3 years theyve drafted franco, nola and crawford. 15 years ago that dweeb ed wade drafted the core that won you the only title your booze riddled mind can remember.

now the phillies might (or will) get unlucky and draft the BPA who will turn out to be a drug addict flameout. but thats really because of bad luck more than anything.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
They're in last place because the guys they drafted to replace Howard, Utley, Rollins, Chooch & the entire pitching staff never panned out.

From 1995-2004 they were probably the best in baseball at drafting.  After that and until very recently it's been a total disaster.

You realize that, right?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 01, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
so for half of the last 20 years they were the best in baseball at drafting and lately they have been good...but theres zero chance the brand new gm they just hired can hit on the first overall pick next year because the phillies?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2015, 01:49:20 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 01, 2015, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
They're in last place because the guys they drafted to replace Howard, Utley, Rollins, Chooch & the entire pitching staff never panned out.

From 1995-2004 they were probably the best in baseball at drafting.  After that and until very recently it's been a total disaster.

You realize that, right?

sure, but theres a difference between misfiring with an athlete at pick 27 and misfiring with a cant miss prospect at 1. if the phillies miss on their top pick in 16 it wont be because of them, it will be because the kid stinks.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2015, 03:01:27 PM
Lead paint chips?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 01, 2015, 03:03:27 PM
you coming to a tailgate this year big guy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 01, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
I'm a broke ass gubmint stooge.

So probably not.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 02, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
nola getting sodomized
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 02, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom

Just saw the clip.  Phillies gonna Phillie.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 02, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom

I'm still laughing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 02, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 02, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
nola getting sodomized

There was one shot of him where it honestly looked like he was going to puke.  Almost as if he just got off the world's gnarliest roller coaster after eating at the all you can eat mexican buffet.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 02, 2015, 11:15:07 PM
27-1 to get to 80

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 02, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom

He's being evaluated for a concussion. Wonder if MLB uses the same protocol as the NFL.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 02, 2015, 11:40:48 PM
probably gonna be his last moment as a phillie

good way to go out
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 03, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
asche to classy + HOF = 634 AB, .203 BA, 26 2B, 3 3B, 12 HR, 49 RBI, .653 OPS

those were for the most part the phillies corner outfielders this year
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
fenway is more of a cesspool than the phillies organizaton
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:04:08 PM
you fall in love with altherr yet
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
words cant describe how overrated the phillie "prospects" are....me and a fellow realist were talking about this yesterday at the cask and flagon....i love philly fans not on message boards
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
Fellow realist eh?

Betcha that was a fun conversation.

Like the two Chinese dudes in Major League "they're zesty!"
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:17:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
words cant describe how overrated the phillie "prospects" are....me and a fellow realist were talking about this yesterday at the cask and flagon....i love philly fans not on message boards

yea franco sucks
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
he seems promising....him and crawford thats it thats the list...and out of those two only one has a chance

so we are down to one possible stud

listen to people like you guys and they have a literal pipeline of mickey mantles on the way
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2015, 09:27:39 PM
This is gonna be good...
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
havas is drunk....theres nothing i can do here but this

the phillies have options. tons of options. prospects are percentages. kris bryant is like a 95%....rube amaro's nephew is like a 0. the phillies have a lot of guys that, over the next 2-3 years, have a minimum 30-40% chance of hitting. not every card is going to hit. but you have to figure, with all these options, 1 or 2 will.

thats why they now have a top 10 system in baseball. do they have a future mvp candidate? probably not. but remember. they have 200 mil to spend. they dont need to produce 8 stud position players. they already have a semblance of a base. in the 17 or 18 offseason they can start spending money and adding big time pieces.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:35:43 PM
TONS!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:40:40 PM
look at the current teams

the royals have some very nice players, but no prospects espn jizzed over like bryant. the cardinals produce solid player after solid player. the giants produced 2 flat out studs and filled in around them. the yankees lone home grown player of note is brett gardner. the dodgers spent wildly and drafted well. the blue jays blew up their farm system. the nats mixed in FA signings, trades and home grown talent and got very lucky that a once in a generation talent was there for them. the cubs drafted insanely well.

theres a ton of different ways to build up in baseball...this isnt the nba where you need to have a super star other worldly player.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:42:44 PM
list the phillie prospects that are going to be above average major leagues in three years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:46:42 PM
i cant predict which ones will hit and which ones wont, but between

altherr-sweeney-herrera-hernandez-galvis-knapp-williams-cousins-kingery-alfaro-tocci and a few others guys that im forgetting...

youd hope to have a 2B, C and 1-2 OFs (maybe 1 is a platoon). with your 3B and SS taken care of, that leaves looking toward FA for an outfield spot and a 1B. thats a pretty good deal.

next year youll know more about altherr and sweeney. by summer you should see williams and maybe alfaro. knapp has been destroying the ball at AA but he might not have a position. OPTIONS!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:50:26 PM
ok so dont get specific but how many legit major league starters come out of the TONS! o fun
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 09:54:37 PM
lets say 4? a catcher, a 2B, and 2 OFs. then they spend that comcast money on a big corner OF bat and a 1B (though maybe alfaro isnt a catcher, so he moves to first and they spend on a catcher).

pitching is a different beast....they have plenty of depth. thompson and nola and maybe efflin are good ML talent. but they dont have anybody next-level. thatll need to come outside the organization (matt harvey 2019!).
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 05, 2015, 09:58:51 PM
I agree with drunk havas and disagree. I agree the Phillies don't have a plethora of stud talent in the minors . Franco/Crawford have a chance to be good, think Nola falls into a 2/3 pitcher if everything goes right, Giles is nice as a closer, but then you have a bunch of maybes. I mean, there's guys that have a chance to make the majors but they're maybe middle of the pack prospect wise after all the trades.

Where I disagree with him is that a bunch of phillies fans have overhyped their prospects. Most fans I interact with agree with everything I've said above. Sure you get the homer Todd/Jay types who think Nick Williams is the next Willie Mays but by and large they're realist.

The best thing they've done is clear salary because there's not enough minor league talent to fill their needs so they're going to have to add talent via free agency if they plan on contending in the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:02:12 PM
ive never said nick williams is willie mays....j doesnt know who williams is. hes a straight forward ML dude.

i said they have a bunch of options. a bunch of "maybes." they need 3 or 4 of the maybes to hit. the odds are high that that will happen. im not the one who ranked the phils 7th in mlb in farm systems. alls i can do is point to that, point to that potential and tell you neanderthals to be patient and get ready for 2017. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
Lolol I know who he is. Nice try, buddy
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 05, 2015, 10:05:29 PM
Aside from Crawford/Franco/Nola/Giles who are their 3 of 4 maybes you think make it? They'll be lucky if 2 of their current minor leaguers make significant major league contributions. Hopefully they get the #1 pick this season and that player turns out. Pitching staff is going to have to be built through free agency because their minor league arms are barren
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: SD on September 05, 2015, 09:58:51 PM
Where I disagree with him is that a bunch of phillies fans have overhyped their prospects. Most fans I interact with agree with everything I've said above. Sure you get the homer Todd/Jay types who think Nick Williams is the next Willie Mays but by and large they're realist.

in person phillie fans dont seem to be super homers for the most part...at least not ones from philly....there is a tangible difference....thats why i said i was so happy to talk to this guy up here...internet heads seem to be out of their minds

in general i agree with the clearing salary and even the trades i have liked a lot...they have done as best they could under not friendly circumstances....but just because they did the best they could doesnt mean they loaded up the farm with ridiculous talent
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
you guys are really confused about what it takes to have a good team

you dont need 8 all stars and 5 aces.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:15:40 PM
pretty sure no one was talking about what it takes to have a good team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:18:07 PM
months ago you were whining at me that the phillies didnt have a prospect espn was jizzing its pants about, like bryant or pederson

thats all you want
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
yeah i do.....thats why i want the number 1 pick next year....i want that magic guy

also im open to crawford being the truth....m just not on board with this total magical rebuild in the last 5 minutes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
well its not going to take 5 minutes....16 isnt going to be great, but yea, theyve gone from a 20-25 farm system to a 5-10 in the past year. its a fact.

i want them to lose out more than anyone too. but you dont need a trout/harper level dude to win in mlb.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
the difference is you think their system actually is top ten...i think its better but mostly a fraud
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Dillen on September 05, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
It's not fraud, it's depth. Depth doesn't appear to be much when that's all you have (like they do now) but it's the key to sustaining a system. You get another top-end guy in the system to pair with JP it'll look much better.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
the difference is you think their system actually is top ten...i think its better but mostly a fraud

i dont know other teams systems and who their prospects are....the big boys rank them top 10. i know the phils system well and see a ton of depth. i see what theyre doing at the ML levels with altherr and herrera. i see what theyre doing at AA with williams, thompson and knapp.

those things lead me to believe this thing might be pretty good in 17 or 18
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:48:02 PM
im far from an expert on most other teams but i do see the write ups btwn phillie prospects and other teams and the current group of phils seems lackluster to me compared to most

this doesnt count low and high A tho....you can always get out of nowhere guys from clearwater or lakewood
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
what write ups
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
everyone ever
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 05, 2015, 11:19:28 PM
omg well thats it

better focus on oct 2016 when embiid begins his hof career
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 06, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
I agree with Todd on this:

- Record-wise, this year is probably the bottom-out point, though next year could be at the same level.
- "Future-prospect-wise," last year was probably the bottom out point.  They still had Rollins-Utley-Howard all on the payroll and on the roster, and there was much less in the pipe.

Basically, it's starting back on the up-swing, but it's got an extremely long way to go.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
I love what they've done in terms of purging the roster of dead wood.  They got some decent young talent in return.  They have billions about to come in from Comcast, so it's not unrealistic to see them contending in two or three years if everything goes right.    I still think it's a colossal mistake keeping Ruben at the helm, though.   I would have fired his smug ass as my first order of business.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2015, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 06, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
I agree with Todd on this:

- Record-wise, this year is probably the bottom-out point, though next year could be at the same level.
- "Future-prospect-wise," last year was probably the bottom out point.  They still had Rollins-Utley-Howard all on the payroll and on the roster, and there was much less in the pipe.

Basically, it's starting back on the up-swing, but it's got an extremely long way to go.

"extremely long" is probably too conservative. most of their prospects are in AA or already up. by 2017 id project a pretty competitive team. i wouldnt say "great" in 2017, just simply competitive.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
they will not be over .500 before 2020
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility

minimum three more seasons of garbage tho
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 06, 2015, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility

minimum three more seasons of garbage tho

As long as there's steady improvement year to year I can live with that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2015, 12:13:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility

minimum three more seasons of garbage tho

youre just wrong about that, by any measure

they can buy a competitive team this offseason if they wanted to. by 2017 theyll have some youngins and 150 mil in salary space to spend. you really, really dont understand baseball.

even if you dont think anybody in their system is going to hit, which would be based on nothing more than that special igy brand of fear and paranoia, then just look at the salary space. its a ton of money!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 01:09:29 PM
They could buy an entire team of high priced free agents and not even blink twice.   Suggesting they can't be competitive for another five years is nonsense.   2016 is out and probably 2017 as well but 2018 is entirely in play simply because the talent they have in the system will be ready and the money they'll have to spend will be astronomical.

That's why it's so important to pick the right general manager to direct the rebuild and farging Ruben ain't the guy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 01:28:55 PM
2018 is in play but 2019 is nonsense

got it

also how did it go for the Red Sox and buying a team
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 02:01:12 PM
How did it go?

(http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/Soxring2013.jpg)

Pretty well, I'd say.


Also - you said 2020.  That's five years out.  They're going to have a nearly unlimited amount of money to spend in 2017.  It's not even remotely far-fetched to think that they're going balls-deep to contend in that year.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 02:10:10 PM
no for whatever reason probably homerism you chose to only read 2020
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
they will not be over .500 before 2020

I read what you posted.  You hedged most likely because even you don't believe the bullshtein you routinely post here.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2015, 04:16:46 PM
the yankees bought their current team and theyre going to make the playoffs....the pirates have drafted and well and built from the ground up and they havent made the nlcs yet.

2017 is a logical and realistic target year from them to be competitive and give us a baseball summer. that doesnt mean 2017 is going to be a juggernaut world series contender. just a decent team that can hang in a 2nd wc race at the least. theres really no debating that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
Nope.  2019 at the earliest.  Probably 2020!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
they will not be over .500 before 2020

I read what you posted.  You hedged most likely because even you don't believe the bullshtein you routinely post here.

yeah 2019 is so out of this world preposterously impossible that you said 2018

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 06, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
So the Phillies, huh?

Swept again.  Jack Mehoff pitched, well, he threw baseballs towards the catcher for a while and most of them went back the other way faster than they were thrown.

So go draft picks from here on out?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 06, 2015, 08:19:56 PM
its been go draft picks for 3 years

next year id like to see them play well, but still finish inside the top 11 so they can keep that pick if they sign a type A free agent heading into 17.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 07, 2015, 07:16:21 PM
Not sure what's more pathetic, Aaron Harang on the mound, the Braves in general or the crowd at CBP tonight?  Guess I fall in that category for watching BUT I am on outta here.  On the way to surf.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 07, 2015, 07:23:25 PM
actually a huge series with atl 1 game ahead of the phils for the #1 pick

harang williams buchanan would be nice to see
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 07, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
the young pitching has been gamechanging the last week or so
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 07, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
Smallest crowd in CBP history tonight - announced at 15k

Eskin says actual count was 9300.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 08, 2015, 12:22:00 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
the young pitching has been gamechanging the last week or so

the only go to follow is nola...stop being a troll. who omg i guess had a bad start omg omg omg

the 2 guys they got from texas are org depth
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 08, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
number one overall matters

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-nl-east-phillies-marlins-braves-race-for-top-draft-pick/?ex_cid=story-twitter
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
Ding dong the witch is dead

SMUG IS OUT
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on September 10, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
3pm press conference, Proefrock is the interim GM

http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/148481818
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 10, 2015, 12:52:10 PM
Good riddance. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 10, 2015, 01:02:05 PM
Later smug, I'll remember you the same way I remember Jason Babin and Papelbon.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 10, 2015, 01:41:04 PM
By choking a bitch?

IN.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on September 10, 2015, 02:35:07 PM
brett myers would approve
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
obviously for the best, but he made some nice moves this year and did everything he could to get them to win 09-11

would be nice though to get someone in here who thinks RBIs are stupid
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 10, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
He was handed a Ferrari and now it's not worth the price of a busted chainsaw.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2015, 06:17:19 PM
he was handed a ferrari that was going to turn into a ford pinto and thats exactly what happened

he just extended the length in which it would be a pinto
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 10, 2015, 06:47:05 PM
that's simply untrue.   whatever, though.  he's gone and we can only hope whoever they decide to select as a replacement makes wiser choices.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
Who are the candidates?

Please be someone legit.

As for Sir hungry hungry hipposalot saying someone who hates rbis? lol yeah ok
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2015, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 10, 2015, 06:47:05 PM
that's simply untrue.   whatever, though.  he's gone and we can only hope whoever they decide to select as a replacement makes wiser choices.

its 100% true. nobody is good forever, except for maybe the cardinals. even if they drafted well, there wouldve been a down period where the new players replaced choke, jimmy, chase, etc. and i can only imagine your reaction if they got rid of those guys before shtein went bad.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
Who are the candidates?

Please be someone legit.

As for Sir hungry hungry hipposalot saying someone who hates rbis? lol yeah ok

no lists yet, but its probably going to be a young nerd who will treat your heroes (other grown men) as commodities not as greek gods
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
Bullet point two in The MDS Troll Manifesto;

The hero line
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 10, 2015, 08:31:12 PM
The Yankees are still good 6 years after winning the World Series.  So are the Cardinals.   The Dodgers reloaded and are in the hunt again.

It can be done especially with a monster payroll.  They should have cut bait after 2012 but they doubled down on aging fossils.

And here we are.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 10, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
the yankees are 1 for their last 4 in trying to buy a decent team...its not sustainable.

the dodgers payroll is north of 300 mil. theyre in a class of their own.

the phillies bought lee, flexed their muscles for halladay and bough a closer. so they spent fairly wildly. it didnt work because their core was old...so if they move on from that....theres those young players again maybe needing some time to figure it out.

again. there was always going to be a comedown from 08-11. amaro simply extended it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 10:06:20 PM
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/phillies/?wss=/philly/sports/phillies&id=326531561

Middleton continues to be vocal - good
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 11, 2015, 05:46:50 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/20150911_Ruben_Amaro_s_vision_was_shortsighted.html

QuoteYesterday, the organization finally announced its judgment, and on all counts it agreed. What we have witnessed over the last four years has been a spectacular failure, and an avoidable one. There is a certain strain of revisionism going around that suggests the Phillies were victims of their own success, that their five straight division titles and best-in-history rotation pushed expectations to a point that exceeded reality, that nothing beyond luck could have prevented what we've seen.

This is a silly notion, the opiate of the mediocre, of minds that take comfort in regression to the mean. It is a loser's mentality.


Look around baseball, and this is what you see: The Cardinals, who have had one losing season since 1999. The Angels, who have not had back-to-back losing seasons since 1992-94. The Yankees, who are closing in on their 23rd consecutive season with a winning record. The Rays, who finished above .500 in six straight seasons despite a minuscule payroll, and who have not come close to resembling the embarrassment that their opponent in the 2008 World Series became. The Red Sox, who had a 16-year stretch from 1998-2013 that featured 15 winning records and three world titles. They do not view defeat as inevitable: With a month left in their second straight losing season, they made a change.

Boom.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on September 11, 2015, 08:29:26 AM
pinto bacon
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 11, 2015, 10:48:29 AM
I'm glad he's gone, but in the interest of fairness and objectivity, Rube did as good of a job as anyone could have expected to keep the Phils in a position to win multiple championships between 2009-2012. You can't really blame the GM because a 102 win team didn't  get beyond the WC round. 

Problem is that nearly every move he's made since that run ended has been one bad decision after another.  I think it pretty much started with the Papelbon signing and then went straight downhill from there.

Either way, this is the smartest decision the team made in the last 3 or 4 years.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2015, 07:59:27 PM
2011 will sting for awhile.  Doc, Lee, Heidi, Lee Harvey.  No excuse.

Lee game 2, 4-0 lead.  yak.

Oswalt pitched like a bitch in game 4 and if I recall "thought" he pitched pretty good, go back to your tractor.

Doc had a great game 5 in that duel with Carpenter but he was lucky as hell the bums bats won game 1 as he was tossing BP that game. 

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 11, 2015, 10:56:32 PM

T Mac not in booth tonight.  You realize how bad Stairs and Murphey are.  I could handle T Mac and Schmitty.

There are two Chicago clowns dressed as the Ditka Da Bears characters from SNL sittign behind home plate.  I have visions of disembowling them with a gaff, yet once again I should be disembowled for watching this shtein show.  More about watching the Cubs and it's raining here.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2015/09/13/149164330/jp-crawford-tags-runner-out-on-incredible-play?partnerId=as_mlb_20150913_52387226&adbid=643210408065527808&adbpl=tw&adbpr=241544156
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 13, 2015, 09:05:25 PM
Crawford went yard too. He's like a Rollins/Grit hybrid type player. Plays with attitude and grit.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2015, 09:12:52 PM
i cant believe hes still only 20

i had tickets for the game but it got rained out fri and i couldnt go last night
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2015, 09:17:48 PM
altherr with a 2B and a 3B today, too. i really like him.

between him, franco, jp and williams, they have a potential core. the issue is pitching. the 2016 draft has no outrageous stud, but the top is lining up to be pitching heavy.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 13, 2015, 09:48:38 PM
The good thing about pitching is you don't have to develop it you can just sign two studs and have Nola as your #3 and be halfway decent. This upcoming free agent pitching market is absurd and the Phils have plenty of money. No reason it shouldn't happen this offseason.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2015, 09:59:07 PM
1) nobody wants to sign with this pos team...hey david price do you want to wait 2 years for jp crawford to develop? no? why not!

2) you cant sign pitching on the FA market until youre right there. FA arms are at and around 30, which is when they start trending downhill. so its a 5-7 yeas deal with the backhalf likely being a wash. think cliff lee. its a 5 year deal and he gave them half of it. so when youre a true contender you can do it, knowing youre getting the stud at his peak when youre good. the phillies, david price or not, cant win next year and at best can be competitive in 2017. so now youre asking david price or zach grineke to basically waste 2 years of their primes.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 13, 2015, 10:06:34 PM
You're paying them exorbitant sums of money to waste two years of their primes.   I don't want them to waste money on big money free agents this winter anyway, but it's not as if Middleton won't break the bank to sign a Price or Greinke or both.  And it's not as if they wouldn't take the highest bid either.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2015, 10:08:43 PM
grienke is a 100 years old and i dont think hes gonna opt out anyway....regardless lil guy is right they are nowhere near close enough to winning to give out some awful jon lester type deal to anyone much less two people
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2015, 10:09:06 PM
the worst thing they can do is overpay for price or grienke by 10-15 mil....i mean even if they sign these guys their lineup isnt close. i dont even know why this is a discussion.

middleton will pay big money but the phillies arent ready to spend it yet. the FA classes are shaping up to be good in 19, 20, 21. thats about when, logically, they will turn into a contender if this thing works out.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 13, 2015, 10:15:53 PM
As I said, I hope they don't.  There's no need for it.  I'm just saying that money is no object with this team especially after they clear the remaining dead money off the books.

And BTW... Greinke has 3/$71M left on that option.  That's chicken feed compared to what he could earn on the open market.  Figure at least $140M over 6 years.  Someone will be dumb enough to fork it over.  No doubt about it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 13, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
i thought grienke was older than he is but what i was saying is that he reworks the deal with the dodgers ie doesnt opt out and hit the market

either way hes not ever willingly coming to the phillies
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 13, 2015, 10:28:31 PM
kuechler - 2019
cobb - 2018
gray - 2020
cole - 2020
carlos martinez - 2020
jose fernandez - 2019
harvey - 2019
degrom - 2020
syndergaard - 2021
ty ross - 2018

obviously not all of these guys are going to be FAs...or still be elite-level when they reach free agency....but these are the names to track over the next couple of years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:38:44 PM
After Papsmear talked shtein before the game they hooked him up with a blown save
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 14, 2015, 11:05:51 PM
really nice result

pap blew the save, farg him, but phils still got the loss. need them all. atlanta right there.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 15, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
phils bat andres blanco 4th and lose
braves beat the hottest team in baseball

2 up in the loss column

this should make up for the eagles
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 16, 2015, 07:13:24 AM
the reading machine won against last night....playing the o's farm team...15 minutes from my house
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 16, 2015, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
phils bat andres blanco 4th and lose
braves beat the hottest team in baseball

2 up in the loss column

this should make up for the eagles

WTF last night?  Braves had 20 hits.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 16, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Ethan Martin couldn't get out of the third fightins down 5-1
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2015, 10:24:43 PM
Asher rocked again

Sweeney down to a buck 72

Altherr down to .239

42 strikeouts in a three gamer is worst ever by the Phils
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 17, 2015, 12:04:54 AM
dont put altherr in the same breath as those 2 losers
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 17, 2015, 07:40:54 PM
jake thompson is again on fire with a no hitter thru 4 and nick williams has gone deep

4-0 reading
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 17, 2015, 08:16:24 PM
nick dub with an rbi single now chases the SP

bases loaded no out

5-0 in the 6th

looks like I might see a phillie title tomorrow nite!!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on September 17, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
going to reading tomorrow? i can prob get you free passes to als diamond cabaret after, some 50 year old porn star is dancing. should be hilarious.

i may be in rdg sat night.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 17, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
lol....no tonight tomorrow and sat if necessary are in bowie....I actually bought tickets for last Friday in reading but it farging got rained out and couldn't go sat

jp Crawford is now 10-20 with 6bb and zero k;s in the postseason.....this cat
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 18, 2015, 12:24:25 AM
look at this johnny come lately
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2015, 05:51:15 AM
been doin this shtein since you was suckin your mommas tit newb
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 18, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
3 months ago you were lukewarm at best on even jp

but you do you cuz
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2015, 11:58:25 AM
never lukewarm on jp....hes about the only one that i have any real confidence in right now...other than franco but hes not a prospect anymore
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on September 18, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 17, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
going to reading tomorrow? i can prob get you free passes to als diamond cabaret after, some 50 year old porn star is dancing. should be hilarious.

i may be in rdg sat night.

what, no peanut bar ?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 18, 2015, 09:10:45 PM
pos ben lively is a pos
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 19, 2015, 12:31:29 AM
huge loss tonight

a sweep should about clinch the 1
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 19, 2015, 03:06:55 AM
60?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
so im off to try this again....if you can find  line on it I suggest putting your house on bowie tonight
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 19, 2015, 08:02:42 PM
nick Williams and cam Perkins almost just came to blows
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 19, 2015, 10:02:45 PM
Clutch loss.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 19, 2015, 10:40:24 PM
it really is....mackanin has to be in on it

he brought in farging jerome williams in a 1 run game for no reason....hes been a starter all year but 2 weeks into his bullpen life hes the set up guy. suuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

macphail magic
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 20, 2015, 07:39:24 AM
These jerks are still playing?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 20, 2015, 08:36:04 AM
Partial Larry Bowa funhole video around the .20 mark



http://youtu.be/HyHK6TFZ3eY
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 22, 2015, 04:28:49 PM
mackanin back for 2016
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on September 22, 2015, 05:48:14 PM
80 it is!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 22, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
its a fine move

obviously they arent going anywhere...and mackanin has shown he will be a subordinate goodie goodie and do what the front office wants. he'll get on board with the new gm/macphail and play the young bucks. cant ask for much more.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 22, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
So he benched Odub for whining the other day.

You couldn't play for him, mds...you'd be released
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 23, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
so how awesome would it be if the phils actually hired (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/07/ipt/1215138895.jpg) as their gm
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 23, 2015, 07:44:31 PM
the wip crowd im sure will be very welcoming of an asian woman
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 23, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
If they win I don't give a farg

I want SDs thoughts on this
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 23, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
he would become a mets fan
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 23, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
lol

I can hear the WIP callers already...led by Innes
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on September 23, 2015, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
he would become a mets fan

Would be a tough choice
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 24, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
so how awesome would it be if the phils actually hired (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/07/ipt/1215138895.jpg) as their gm

Is that Laurie's new wifey?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 24, 2015, 09:42:47 AM
look who's still a giant icehole....gee i wonder why they paid him to go away

http://deadspin.com/oh-hey-jonathan-papelbons-still-a-dick-1732771202
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on September 24, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
Lol ... Go Johnny go
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 24, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
How big of a douchebag does one need to be when Bryce Harper is involved and is the one I sympathize with?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 24, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
hi

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPtFRmFVAAAmgAL.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: smeags on September 25, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 25, 2015, 08:04:41 PM
Best moment of the year?

Eickhoff has made bitchmade ho look like a punk

Eliminate the Nats this weekend!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 25, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Altherr with the inside the park salami.  One of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen.  Nice job by Mr. 7/$126M backing that shtein up, though.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 25, 2015, 08:20:35 PM
Altherr gets up in that ass again
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on September 25, 2015, 09:32:15 PM
I just caught the highlight of the itpgs online.  The Nats are out-Phillie-ing the Phillies.  NATITUDE!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 25, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
big twitter moment for j

congrats bro
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on September 26, 2015, 12:32:10 AM
The minute I walked into the stadium this dude hit an inside the park home run. Then he hit another HR later. Also his at bat music is the price is right theme song which is badass. But I've never heard of him.

At one point I looked up and didn't recognize 5 of the 9 guys in the lineup.

Fun game though.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2015, 01:37:36 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 25, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
big twitter moment for j

congrats bro

I don't get it. What are you talking about
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on September 26, 2015, 06:19:03 AM
Ruf's dinger was a bomb.  Nice win overall.  Sweep those fargs out of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 26, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
I can't get enough of watching this play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6viyW2sGdNk
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on September 26, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 26, 2015, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.

Total misplay, but between the dive and the fact that he never touched the ball, the scorer will rarely call that an error.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 26, 2015, 02:03:51 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.

yea when it misses the glove, they dont call an error. typical all inside the park homers are via a brutal fielding play, so this is another.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2015, 01:37:36 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 25, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
big twitter moment for j

congrats bro


I don't get it. What are you talking about

gotta show all them dc boys who's boss, bo
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2015, 02:31:04 PM
Yes. Ok. Good post, pal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on September 27, 2015, 04:35:14 PM
It's been a while, but the last two innings for the Phils:

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 27, 2015, 04:40:30 PM
only up 4 on the braves for the #1...shut up
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2015, 10:11:31 PM
@JClarkCSN: Phillies starters have given up 2 ER or less in 10 straight starts. First time theyve done that in 26 years..
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 29, 2015, 11:48:26 PM
magic number is at 2 to lockup the #1...biggest philly sports accomplishment since _____

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on September 30, 2015, 06:11:06 AM
since sproles punt return
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 09:21:35 PM
A little beanballin

Cespedes hit and leaves with hand injury (uhh ohhhh)

Odubel just wore one in the back
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
Up and in to Rupp!!

He's a country strong shtein kicker so I'm pretty sure he'd win a fight

Benches to the top steps and warning track area

Robles and Collins ejected
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:18:00 PM
j did you want them to win today
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Indifferent really. I wanted to see some fights.

If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:29:05 PM
I have this game on VHS somewhere. My grandpop used to tape them and mail them to me because I was living in Kansas.

I was a huge Pat Combs fan and of course Ricky Jordan and Kruk.

Late in the game there's the brawl between Combs and Doc - I read the inky archived article tonight and lol at the fine amount. Combs was fined $200.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1IqpFFW-k
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
One from 1989

Roger McDowell and Gregggggggg going at it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=B1PNt5iktGE
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Indifferent really. I wanted to see some fights.

If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?

yes

i thought the game was in a rain delay but i think its just the worst game ever? twitter killing it.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
Yeah it's pretty awful.

Like watching spring training.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on October 01, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
J, that was awesome!  Thanks!  Dutch was going off on Coke Gooden.  Who was that who tossed Strawberry to the ground?  Good stuff J!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 10:22:55 AM
holy shtein i just looked at the streak column in the standings and the reds have lost 11 in a row....impressive tank job
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?

yes

im not very good at math but i think the magic number is three isnt it?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SunMo on October 01, 2015, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?

yes

im not very good at math but i think the magic number is three isnt it?

this is correct...

you aren't very good at math
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 10:54:17 AM
if the phils lose today and the reds win wont it be 3 with 3 to play?

or is it not a coin flip that determines the pick....in other words if they finish with the same record the phils get the pick?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
just looked it up....it goes by the previous seasons record which would give a tie breaker to the fightins.....

math correct
knowledge of the rule incorrect
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 01, 2015, 12:35:26 PM
so its 1 more loss or 1 more braves win? i knew they had the breaker.

whens the last time a philly team had the 1? 1998 for the phillies?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 01:11:31 PM
braves is one...but reds are the team to be concerend about...that number is 2...altho neither team is passing them
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 01, 2015, 01:16:56 PM
i totally havent been paying attention to the reds....good god what an impressive tank job

phils winning right now - reds playing @ pitt which needs to hold off chicago for homefield

crap.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 01:21:11 PM
i was worried when i thought it was a coin flip....no way the phils blow this owing the tb

to have a chance reds would essentially have to finish the season on a 15 game losing streak....that would be amazing
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 01, 2015, 01:25:56 PM
its going to be down to 1 after today

according to espn the phils are starting: williams, harang and buchanan to close the season

they know what's up. also because of rain these games can just get canceled. that might be enough in itself.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 01, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
Even when losing is winning Philly teams find a way to blow it.

Four straight now and it looks like the Reds are going to lose again today.

Just unreal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
reds 0-3
phils 1-2

or

reds 1-2
phils 0-3


neither of those scenarios are happening...be easy dook
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 01, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
I agree it's unlikely but if it were to happen would anyone here be surprised?  Of course then the Phillies would get the 2nd (or even 3rd) pick and probably end up with the only bust in the top 5. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
no i would not be the least bit suprised if all of the above happened
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 03:57:11 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 01, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
J, that was awesome!  Thanks!  Dutch was going off on Coke Gooden.  Who was that who tossed Strawberry to the ground?  Good stuff J!

Yeah man and it was awesome to see that old Fox29 opening and then hear Harry...I'll watch the whole 2hr clip this weekend

I couldn't see them back then unless they played the Cubs or Braves. So I would be in the boxscores every morning and buying USAToday's Baseball Weekly to keep up with everything. SO my pops started recording games and every week I'd get a UPS package with 3 or 4 tapes.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2015, 06:52:39 PM
Eickhoff with another gem
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 12:41:25 AM
settle down...this game was a farce. and he was an organizational depth throw in in the trade. vance worley had a ton of gems in 2011.

hes likely a low end starter, but hes certainly earned himself a good look to be in the rotation of one of the worst teams in baseball next year. hip hip hooray.

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 02:12:28 AM
Ok buddy, whatever you say.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:13:36 AM
The Mets weren't playing out the string.  They have HFA on the line and still pulled a collective hammy during the series.

Irrelevant, though.  The Phillies need to lose out to ensure the #1 pick.  That's the headline.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on October 02, 2015, 08:35:29 AM
So who again is the can't-miss Bryce Harper Jr. stud the Phils need to pick at #1 who definitely won't be around at #2?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:49:05 AM
there isnt one but again thats not the point....its awesome anytime your team can have a number one overall pick...even if its just a fan thing its still important

since 1950 philadelphia as a city has had four overall number one picks....the cleveland cavaliers have had three in the last five years
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 09:01:16 AM
Exactly right.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on October 02, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
meh. just seems like it'll make it worse when the #2 pick becomes a hall of famer and the phillies #1 pick spends most of his life in reading.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 10:25:48 AM
they could also pick second and the first overall could go on to be a hall of famer....at least with the one you controlled your own destiny....no one ever picks first and says afterwards man i wished we would have picked second so we didnt farg up the first pick....you just get killed for making a bad pick whether its at 1 or 17

i know the scenario is not the same but im sick of seeing the reemer vs kane erkel vs wall thing...as of now there isnt a gap like their was in those two scenarios but either way i dont wanna five years from now see the number one overall pick for the reds becoming a stud while the phillies second pick is trash and sitting there saying man if only they didnt choke away that pick to reds that year

also if hes worthy as the number one overall i want jason groome really bad...would be cool to get a local kid number one overall....plus he has the most upside of any of the guys at the top right now...also baseball is a different animal in that they play a whole season of their sport before the draft takes place....theres so much development to still take place...so its possible btwn now and next june that a guy emerges as a dominant prospect...maybe not bryce harperish but a far and away consensus number one overall...and if that happens you obviously want the one
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
yea i fundamentally dont see how it doesnt matter

its not as big as the nba or nfl where you can definitely get that HOF dude, but on what planet is winning a game this weekend going to accomplish anything?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
http://www.si.com/cauldron/2015/09/30/jeremy-affeldt-san-francisco-giant-retiring-three-time-world-champion

QuoteThe City of "Brotherly Love"

Hang on, I know what you're thinking: Jeremy, do you have any idea how dangerous it is to insult the entire city of Philadelphia?! And yes, I know. I know all too well.

So first, let me be clear. Philly is a great sports town, with passionate fans and a palpable energy. The problem, though, is that the city, more than any other I've played in, seems to condone and almost revel in its fans crossing the line. Nowhere else in this country—again, based on my experience as a 14-year major leaguer and the conversations I've had with other players—is the opposition treated in such a repeatedly vile and borderline threatening manner.

We are out here to play a game, and even though we are paid handsomely to do so, professional athletes should not be subject to vulgarity, personal attacks or epithets. Sadly, in Philadelphia, this kind of fan conduct is far too typical. The irony is, while Phillies fans succeed in making many players dread traveling there, they also (not surprisingly) impact the decision-making process of those same players in free agency.

Sure, it's great to play for a rabid fan base, but after experiencing firsthand how powerful that fervor can be when it is channeling extreme negativity, it really makes you think twice about where all that collective anger comes from, and whether you want to subject yourself and your family to that all the time.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 02, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
I'm sure he's not the only player to feel that way at the end of his career.  And I doubt he'll be the last. 
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
http://www.si.com/cauldron/2015/09/30/jeremy-affeldt-san-francisco-giant-retiring-three-time-world-champion

QuoteThe City of "Brotherly Love"

Hang on, I know what you're thinking: Jeremy, do you have any idea how dangerous it is to insult the entire city of Philadelphia?! And yes, I know. I know all too well.

So first, let me be clear. Philly is a great sports town, with passionate fans and a palpable energy. The problem, though, is that the city, more than any other I've played in, seems to condone and almost revel in its fans crossing the line. Nowhere else in this country—again, based on my experience as a 14-year major leaguer and the conversations I've had with other players—is the opposition treated in such a repeatedly vile and borderline threatening manner.

We are out here to play a game, and even though we are paid handsomely to do so, professional athletes should not be subject to vulgarity, personal attacks or epithets. Sadly, in Philadelphia, this kind of fan conduct is far too typical. The irony is, while Phillies fans succeed in making many players dread traveling there, they also (not surprisingly) impact the decision-making process of those same players in free agency.

Sure, it's great to play for a rabid fan base, but after experiencing firsthand how powerful that fervor can be when it is channeling extreme negativity, it really makes you think twice about where all that collective anger comes from, and whether you want to subject yourself and your family to that all the time.

he deserves a nice "farg you, pal" as a retirement gift
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on October 02, 2015, 06:36:47 PM
Swell, first we get Chip the racist control freak and now this. 

farg him.  Did you hear the booing in Pittsburgh last night?  Wasn't just at Scobee.  Lot of it at Tomlin.  Oh but they're just passionate.  We're passionate psychopaths or so I'm told.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: QB Eagles on October 02, 2015, 07:07:55 PM
It seems like half of the actual sports fan violence (as opposed to half of the yelling at relief pitchers and calling them Romes) occurs in SF these days. Didn't Giants fans stab a Dodger fan to death not that long ago?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 02, 2015, 07:10:08 PM
Affeldt should wear a Raiders (or Vikings...) jersey to the 9ers stadium and then re-write his stuff
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?

Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on October 02, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:49:05 AM
since 1950 philadelphia as a city has had four overall number one picks....the cleveland cavaliers have had three in the last five years

That is shocking.  4 franchises and only 4 number one overall picks among them in over 60 years.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?

i think he has the third lowest  post season era of any pitcher ever
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 07:49:32 PM
the phillies last won a playoff series like 100 mass shootings ago
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?

i think he has the third lowest  post season era of any pitcher ever

And yet I still don't care.  Imagine that.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
Also - http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2015/10/02/affeldt-wrong-about-phillys-impact-on-free-agents/
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?

i think he has the third lowest  post season era of any pitcher ever

And yet I still don't care.  Imagine that.

you care about something positive having to do with a non philly player....I can't imagine that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:30:07 PM
The comments he made about free agents being reluctant to sign in Philly because of the fans are patently false and easily refuted, hence the link I posted.

As for what you posted, I have no idea what the farg you're saying.  It's clear you been hitting the bottle already, though.  So yay for you, I guess.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
I love the fact that philly fans are looked at as being the worst in sports...I revel in that shtein

that's why I posted it...it's a badge of honor...you thinking I was posting  it to rip philly fans  and then attacking the messenger by trying to make him seem he was a terrible player just shows how much  of a massive homer you are
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 02, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
red legs lose

the collapse is happening
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on October 03, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
I love the fact that philly fans are looked at as being the worst in sports...I revel in that shtein

that's why I posted it...it's a badge of honor...you thinking I was posting  it to rip philly fans  and then attacking the messenger by trying to make him seem he was a terrible player just shows how much  of a massive homer you are

Same. I don't understand why anyone cares and it is a badge of honor. Sure it annoys me when it's something minor and the national media blows it up but overall I wouldn't change our reputation for nothing.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 03, 2015, 08:59:13 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
red legs lose

the collapse is happening

It certainly seems that way.  Unreal.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: phattymatty on October 03, 2015, 11:55:16 AM
THROW SOME BATTERIES AT SANTA CLAUS GUYS.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 03, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on October 03, 2015, 11:55:16 AM
THROW SOME BATTERIES AT SANTA CLAUS GUYS.

Only if it's J.D. Drew wearing the costume.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
Losing 4-0 and now winning 5-4

Come on and lose
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:12:57 PM
hinkie called giles, told him what to do

gotta love this. farg you cinci you worthless city.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
cincy truly is a dump...had a great roadie there a few years ago but the downtown is pathetic
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 03, 2015, 07:27:29 PM
Clutch loss.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
now train wreck Asher....no way a team is going harang Asher b2b and not getting swept
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2015, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen

standing ovations for jimmy when he returned >
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on October 03, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen

LOL!
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:41:13 PM
decent point....but if you're going to go there then maybe jp's ridiculous tag out at 2nd from last month trumps that

also, yes asher sucks. you cant complain about getting 1 usable arm out of the 2 throw ins they got from texas. the trade was really about thompson, williams and alfaro.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2015, 10:11:41 PM
1
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2015, 10:24:57 PM
Ok now who is the pick?
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 03, 2015, 11:46:11 PM
groooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 03, 2015, 11:51:22 PM
unless bryce harper jr magically pops up, it needs to be the BAA

best arm available
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Rome on October 04, 2015, 07:10:34 AM
I absolutely thought they were gonna blow it yesterday.  I don't think I've ever cheered for a Philly team to lose before, so yesterday was a special one.   Plus I made bank on Baylor/TTU yesterday and FSU won a nail-biter.

Excellent day all around sports-wise.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 12:35:47 PM
Jesse Biddle is having Tommy John surgery
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on October 04, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
first pick will either be University of Florida lefty A.J. Puk or Oklahoma pitcher Alec Hansen. They're both 6'7 and throw heat. All the tools to be an ace.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2015, 12:59:34 PM
right now puk is in the lead
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
Riley pint and groooooooooome better than either one
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 04, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
Ichiro pitched the bottom of the 8th.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: Don Ho on October 04, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
That was pretty cool
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
Mizerock and Nichols let go from the staff - everyone else offered contracts to come back

Attendance was 1.8m - lowest since 2002
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: SD on October 04, 2015, 06:40:40 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2015, 12:59:34 PM
right now puk is in the lead

Which is why I listed him first
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
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Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: BigEd76 on October 07, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
Riley pint and groooooooooome better than either one

Don't think they're taking a HS pitcher #1, especially when many of the top-5/10 HS pitchers taken recently have struggled (plus they might be able to save $1M-$2M by taking a college kid then use that for higher bonuses elsewhere in the top 10). Think they go Puk and fast-track him like Nola for mid/late 2017.  If he gets his control problems straightened out, he could be legit Randy Johnson dominant (and hopefully not a lefty Aumont)
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
i think making baseball draft predictions 8 months out is pretty silly
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: ice grillin you on October 07, 2015, 04:50:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 07, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
i think making baseball draft predictions 8 months out is pretty silly

yeah they have a whole season to still play....so much can change....and it doesn't matter if a middle schooler is the clear cut number one prospect that's who the Phillies are taking
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
correct

phils take the BPA...if it turns out to be a bat, so be it. if hes 16, whatever. if hes 22, ehh, but fine. no decisions are even close to being made right now. this isnt andrew luck or lebron.
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2015, 08:08:47 PM
Maybe they can find another Castonzo or Greene??
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: MDS on October 07, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
come on youre smarter than that
Title: Re: Holy Crap, They Suck: Phillies 2015
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 07, 2015, 11:55:27 PM
Sometimes.

Joe Savery then?

Brien Taylor? A Coke head like Tampa seems to always draft? The Padres dude Bush who flamed out?