Fill in the blank
Losses:
NL East champ:
Mikael Franco XBHs:
Amaro fire date:
Cole Hamels trade date:
109
Nats
32
None
July 25
Had to edit my win total. I figured those who have been negative were overblowing it a little but I just looked at the opening day roster.... All of this with arguably no important injuries... Holy shtein
Losses: 174,776,598,771,394,659,403
NL East Champ: Who cares?
MFXBH: Minus gazillionty (plus or minus)
ROOB: January 17th, 2063
Hamels: No, really... who cares? When they trade him they've going to get royally farged up the ass because the buffoon in charge of trading him is less adept at trading than Jack was when he had his magic beans.
Rome has cracked open the bottle early today!
Losses: 97
NL East champ: Nats
Mikael Franco XBHs: 23
Amaro fire date: Not soon enough: Oct. 5 - day after the last game.
Cole Hamels trade date: July 31. Amaro will send $$$ and get back a low-end prospect in A-ball and declare himself the smartest man in the world.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Rome has cracked open the bottle early today!
I'm salty today. No doubt about it. But this assface starting a Phillies thread, when all he does is piss and moan about how much they suck day after day after day, is just disgusting. It would be like IGY starting an "I Love Hair Metal" thread or rjs starting an "I Love People" thread.
No, sir... cannot have it for six months. I'm trolling this shtein until someone deletes it or me.
wait the person who starts threads is a thing
arent you an adult?
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be
are you really going to brag if they win 65 instead of 55?
80 wins, pal.
Quote from: MDS on April 05, 2015, 12:11:46 PM
Fill in the blank
Losses:
NL East champ: duh
Mikael Franco XBHs: zero
Amaro fire date: 1/16
Cole Hamels trade date: august
Quote from: MDS on April 05, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
wait the person who starts threads is a thing
arent you an adult?
You know, it's entirely possible that if you submit a decent array of posts from this forum, you might be eligible for a refund from Temple for your bachelor's degree.
i dont see what stupid message posts has to do with a grown man with a wife, children and important, valuable things complaining about who starts a thread on a message board about a terrible baseball team
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
double or nothing the 100
o/u 78.5
me: under
you: over
Hmmmm let me think on it
After contemplating...no bet. I'll take the Sixers hundo and use it when I go to Vegas ;D
Play ball!
It took two whole batters for the Phillies to start losing...
Maybe I should be happy I didn't burn a day off to watch the game?
Picking up bucholtz and starting him today was too easy
Hamels is being generous today. Good to see him upping that trade value.
Jesus Christ are they playing in a wind tunnel or is he just throwing up meatballs?
Definitely the winds fault for only blowing when the Red Sox bat
Over/under for Hamels' DL stint: May 1
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 04:35:05 PM
Hamels is being generous today. Good to see him upping that trade value.
Atta boy Smuggy, keep the guy and dangle him out there as long as you can. Only suspense this season will be what kind of dog scrappings they get for Heidi.
Buchholtz is just sick today. Granted it's the worst lineup in baseball but he is throwing some sick stuff.
Pedroia is so farging good.
Galvez is so farging bad.
HA! What a farging circus.
First time since 1998 they were shutout on opening day.
straight garbage
I expect the other 161 to be similar. Only with worse Phillies starting pitching. Swell team, Rube.
I hope they get slaughtered every game now. That lineup was hideous and Hamels pitched like he had an early dinner date.
At least the draft is coming up in a few weeks.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 06, 2015, 06:17:54 PM
First time since 1998 they were shutout on opening day.
Let's compare the starting lineups:
| 1998 Phils (75-87) | | 2015 Phils (Not enough - Too Much) |
| Doug Glanville, CF | | Ben Revere, LF |
| Gregg Jefferies, 1B | | Odubel Herrera, CF |
| Scott Rolen, 3B | | Chase Utley, 2B |
| Mike Lieberthal, C | | Ryan Howard, 1B |
| Rico Brogna, 1B | | Carlos Ruiz, C |
| Mark Lewis, 2B | | Grady Sizemore, RF |
| Bobby Abreu, RF | | Cody Asche, 3B |
| Desi Relaford, SS | | Freddy Galvis, SS |
| Curt Schilling, P | | Cole Hamels, P |
I think the 98 team beats the current scrubs four out of every seven.
Mark Lewis...forgot about him
Yep, Unfortunatey remember every player on that roster except Lewis.
the phillies have 1.5 major leaguers right now
the 98 team had at least 3
plus the 98 team had schilling who would have smoked nikki h2h anytime they faced off
80
joe savery retired
galvis with the full face cover tonight
he still cant hit
Win #1 on their way to the world series
.500
1 down
79 to go
Email me the MLB TV stuff!
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2015/04/three-more-reasons-why-jonathan-papelbon-is-awesome-and-or-a-huge-jerk.html
Quote"Gonna see some shtein explode this year, brother. farg off, Salisbury. Go back to your dick-sucking hole... farg... you're standing in my face."
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 09, 2015, 12:32:44 PM
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2015/04/three-more-reasons-why-jonathan-papelbon-is-awesome-and-or-a-huge-jerk.html
Quote"Gonna see some shtein explode this year, brother. farg off, Salisbury. Go back to your dick-sucking hole... farg... you're standing in my face."
Still a huge jerk, but I don' t think saying the shtein he said to the Herald is bad either. If that's how he feels, I appreciate him admitting it instead of pretending that we don't already know. He's a piece of shtein for having the attitude, not for speaking the truth.
well maybe if one of his teammates showed him where to get good fried chicken for the clubhouse he'd feel like a phillie.
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.
QuoteAfter getting Hanley Ramirez to fly out a cold miserable night knocked down Hanley Ramirez's sure-fire, go-ahead grand slam to end the eighth inning, Papelbon gave the Red Sox dugout his trademarked crotch grab. Not tonight, boys
HA! Get that clown out of here.
david buchanan
The game was supposed to be on "regional coverage" on MLB. Instead they have Padres/Giants.
for some reason thats what they label their games....its very misleading
there is a main game (pads/giants) and a game that you get if you live in the home market of teams in the main game (phils/sox).
Right behind the Phillies dugout, probably on camera every time there's a lefty up to bat. Nice seats.
Find Amaro and shtein on him
Give TMac the finger
Hold up a sign - you have time to make one - that says "lil guy luvs igy" and the number 80
Maybe I missed it or just forgot but what's with the throwback caps
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why
so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why
so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right
That's pretty cool then and I agree do the whole uniform or don't do anything at all.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 09, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
i havent heard this but sox and phils played in the 1915 ws....im sure thats why
so dumb to do hats but not uniforms....if you are gonna do it do it right
Not only that but if you do a throwback uni you have to have batting helmets and shoes match too
When the Phils do the baby blues and have the current batting helmets and cleats it's awful
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous. I usually love throwback stuff. These are awful.
HA! Victorino's face on that last swing. I miss that coconut head.
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous. I usually love throwback stuff. These are awful.
I don't think they're that bad but matched up with their current uni's they look hideous
exactly...they look ridiculous on the current uni's but would be amazing on the original johnsons
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.
I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie. You?
Like J said, show the TV booth the finger. Matt Stairs useless dribble and T Mac's "This isn't over" shtein are quite annoying. Matt Stairs got all worked up insisting that it was regular yellow tape on Papi's bat. Ben Davis and Mac think it's tennis racket tape. I know, riveting shtein.
Quote from: SD on April 09, 2015, 09:34:18 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
No matter WTF they're pulling out of their ass to celebrate the caps are hideous. I usually love throwback stuff. These are awful.
I don't think they're that bad but matched up with their current uni's they look hideous
Agreed. After I posted that they showed a shot of the hat on the field by itself and it wasn't half bad. As IGY said, you're going to go throwback go all in. Guess on a Wednesday night in horrible baseball weather and a 3/4 empty stadium didn't justify it.
farging Hawaiian! :boom
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.
I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie. You?
That cat looks like Todd. I met Munson once...pretty sure that's not him. Are there people with yellow face masks on a few rows back or am I seeing shtein
im black
Todd and Munson at a game together?!
Mattheau and Lemon?!
Dogs and cats?!
Mass hysteria
im not at the game....its too damn cold and this team sucks ass
i believe choke and GRIT are a combined 2-23 now
No...2-23 not 80.
Ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-bA9FYB8HY
Quote from: Don Ho on April 09, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: Munson on April 09, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Got front row tickets for free tonight. Not sure what line we're on (assuming it's one of the lines and not in the OF). Look for the goon with the beard and the old school eagles black and green knit poof ball hat.
I keep seeing a beard with a green hoodie. You?
Like J said, show the TV booth the finger. Matt Stairs useless dribble and T Mac's "This isn't over" shtein are quite annoying. Matt Stairs got all worked up insisting that it was regular yellow tape on Papi's bat. Ben Davis and Mac think it's tennis racket tape. I know, riveting shtein.
haha nah I had an eagles poof ball black and old school green hat, coat, and black hoodie underneath.
(https://scontent-1.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11073546_871213246581_3859685005545593667_n.jpg?oh=6f76fe10f1ecba50e45bb9d7fc0f78f7&oe=55B0D9B7)
Really hope my buddy can get these tickets again this summer when the weather's nicer...awesome seats.
:yay
Wow! Sweet. Holy crap, the crowd or more like lack there of. Know the weather sucked, week night, etc. but you'd think with BoSox in town it would draw more than that. David Buchanan.
Yeah stadium was half full, if that, and I'd say at least 40% of the people there were Sox fans. A ton of loud cheers when Beogarts' hit dropped in.
that didn't take long......btwn jerome williams spring numbers and the putrid lineup rhino is running out there tonight this should be a drubbing
my apologies to mr Williams.....send it in Jerome!
Bring it home for Jerome!
Btw nice AB, Grit
lol I knew you'd enjoy that
Seeing a lead off double stranded on second makes me feel all nostalgic - I missed seeing that!
Can't even lay down a farging bunt. No power + no small ball + no brains is always a recipe for disaster. Geez, I was expecting so much more from this group.
Sizemore looks like Spaz out there fielding balls.
A D V A N C E
farging tards.
Grit .077
GRIT needs to be taken out back and shot
Seriously. Put him out of his misery.
Yea, beautiful shot Murph & T Mac of a 3/4 empty stadium.
id rather have it empty than it be 60% red sox fans
holy shtein at the amount of mets fans when they come on a weekend in may
you cant hit em in then walk and hbp em in
by any means necessary
Nice little rally there
Any bets that Papsmear blows it?
I could care less about paps...I wanna see giles do something clean here...hes been scuffling hard
so much for that
giles velocity is so down....his fastball cant top 94-95
Yeah he's still not full blast- kinda wish they would've let him chill for a week after that little back tweak he had or whatever
Nice to see that ho Harper go down looking
Nice win. Real nice job by Papsmear too
Nattitude
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 10, 2015, 09:52:40 PM
Nice win. Real nice job by Papsmear too
nice! nice! it was nice!
78 to go
Nice post.
Count em down for me buddy!
yo man cole going tomorrow....thats a win
then the mets...they aint good....then the nats again, pshhh.....then miami and atlanta at home PUHlease.
here we go lets do this!
Right on buddy!
Your boy Cesar done good tonight too
Pete Mackanin is a dumb farg
Freddy Galvis is a dumber farg.
Utley is awful at the plate right now
That pitch he swung and missed on was a hanging spinner and he missed
Home Run Heidi
That's his new name
Keep it in the yard, clown
Schmitty saying Grit will be all right and not to worry and he misses that perfect ball, more like late on it.
Jesus Grit, c'mon.
Nice sac bunts this evening, boys. Splendid execution
Helluva play by Blanco and Choke there. Nice dig.
Heidi get the farg out of there as fast as you can. shtein demand a trade to the Alaska Single A league, just get out of there.
To bad Schmitty can't be the everyday color guy in the booth. He calls and tells it like it is.
Howard with a deep drive off the top of the left field wall, double that drives in Utley.
It's 2008 again! :crazy
farging choke dog. He thought that mutha was out.
Holy shtein! 2008 is right.
Nats doing their best to challenge the bums for boneheads of the week.
horrible at bat Blanco.
Who the farg does Frenchy think he is?
Come on, Hernandez...
They really are horrible. Lead off double by grandpa and the three goons all k.
Agreed on Schmitty being good in the booth
And they should have hunted Revere (hi lil guy!) but bc he failed earlier Sandberg didn't keep it on
Then three straight k's
Hell just froze over! Revere?
farging Benny The Hose!
Nattitude!!!1!!!!
The Nats are still the Phillies' bitches.
Great job by Ruiz to tag and get into scoring position and Odie was due to get his first hit.
it was a nice little win but holy shtein j and donho kill me now
You ain't stealing my joy, you grinchy sob!
77!
The Braves and Bums, #1 and #2 in the NL East. Enjoy it while it lasts.
80
scherzer
de grom
harvey
guess:
no hitters
hits
runs
wins
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 11, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
The Braves and Bums, #1 and #2 in the NL East. Enjoy it while it lasts.
David Buchanan!
I'm saying it right now... the Phillies will win 85 games and Ryne Sandberg will win Manager of the Year.
Who's with me?
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150412_Sibling_battle__Phillies_co-owner_Middleton_in_business_dispute_with_sister.html
money fight!
I am falling in love with OD
Yep he's flashed ever since he got here and Schmidt loves him too
for the greatest team ever, the nationals do suck at hitting
They're pretty zesty on defense too
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 02:22:29 PM
They're pretty zesty on defense too
who is winning the nl east this year
man i love choke
even for an awful team thats going to lose 100 games....he takes the cake
Awful ABs from Choke...put the bat on the ball, man
He had really good ABs last night but total opposite today
3 at bats with RISP
3 awful k's for choke
i know hes not blocking anybody and it doesnt matter....but this whole thing is incredibly sad
At this point Choke would strike out roughly half the time in tee-ball.
if choke didnt already set the golden sombrero record he has to be damn close
Golden Sombrero day for Mr Choke
Good to see Ruf yank one. Another great job by the Nats pen lolol
and choke got pulled from the game....sandberg doing something that coddling geezer manuel never did
Looks like a 3-3 start unless they can rally back
Go take 2/3 from the shteinbag Mets now
Ohhhh so close to tying that. I forgot what a bum Storen is.
Grit missed a walk off three run homer by a half inch on his bat.
so theyre basically 4-2
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
so theyre basically 4-2
lol
also lol at being a phillie fan and making fun of an offense....especially one missing their two best hitters and their leadoff man
So a persons favorite team sucking means they cannot make any snide comments about other teams?
It's all good. Don't get salty about your Nats, man. Havinc a bad Natitude will get you nowhere
lol at being a phillie fan?
you're a farging disgrace.
youre basically that fat dude in the stands telling andy reid to lose weight
so no, you cant.
dont throw stones from a glass house....especially when your house sucks donkey dick
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
So a persons favorite team sucking means they cannot make any snide comments about other teams?
yeah thats pretty much how it works
if the nats don't win the world series flame away....making fun of the team that is going to win the division in april is super small time
Not sure if trolling or exhibiting flawed logic...gonna go with trolling.
Otherwise you'd never be able to make any disparaging remark about any team. And its not even an opinion - its a fact that they play zesty defense and their offense has sucked.
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 11:20:00 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150412_Sibling_battle__Phillies_co-owner_Middleton_in_business_dispute_with_sister.html
money fight!
SELL SELL SELL!
Quote from: MDS on April 12, 2015, 06:59:37 PM
so theyre basically 4-2
5-1, you forgot
(http://imgix.scout.com/114/1148540.jpg)
Phillies pitching prospect Zach Eflin started his season on a strong note on Sunday as he made his first start for double-A Reading. The righthander pitched six shutout innings against the Portland Sea Dogs, Boston's double-A affiliate. Eflin allowed four hits and struck out two. He walked one.
I'm still fuming when I see the Red Sox prospects and the Dodgers prospects bums "wished for" in some kind of Hamels deal. Here's to hoping Red Sox are in the thick of things come late July. Doyers will no doubt be. Dodgers are loaded with young talent.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 12, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
Phillies pitching prospect Zach Eflin started his season on a strong note on Sunday as he made his first start for double-A Reading. The righthander pitched six shutout innings against the Portland Sea Dogs, Boston's double-A affiliate. Eflin allowed four hits and struck out two. He walked one.
lost cause jesse biddle also pitched well....nola did not.
roman quinn i think had a good week in reading, too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 12, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Not sure if trolling or exhibiting flawed logic...gonna go with trolling.
c'mon now jay, you know damn well you read the havas handbook for fan etiquette. ::)
yeah he did.....right before he burned it
I would never burn any literature from you, man!
Nice offense today!
I am listening at work...sat down just in time to see Mr. Untouchable GRIT botch a tailor made double play.
It cost them a run too.
2-0 might as well be 13-0
What the hell is Harvey gonna do to this lineup?
igy's hero
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCk_VIPVIAEO-WR.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 14, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
What the hell is Harvey gonna do to this lineup?
unless his pitch count is down i dont see him going the distance...not there yet
but 7ip, 1-2h, 0 runs, 10+k's
Crowd is going nuts for Harvey. Guys a God at Citi Field.
2 up, 2K. this will be real ugly.
lol utely into utley's corner
farg you harvey you bitch
on q....keith just said "here's ryan howard, off to another terrible start." god damnit this is the best broadcast in baseball.
Gritty little stroke did it! HA! :-D
StubHub! How appropriate to describe Grit's stroke.
Should be an asterick after you K choke. Looked like a third grader up there.
Ah the from the mastery of Harvey to the, well, the shtein of Buchanan.
This poor kid is just awful.
Buchanans new name is Batting Practice Buchanan - what a farging jugs machine this guy is
And the Mets crew is fantastic. Darling ripping Collins for initiating the delay was fantastic. Think a Phils broadcast will ever rip a Phillies manager? Ha!
Asche goes yard.
4-3
Need another quick inning from BP Buchanan
Love how the SNY crew highlighted how similar Utley and Asche's swings are
David Buchanan with a double? WTF?
Groupon is offering tickets for $8.50. (http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-philadelphia-phillies)
Quote from: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
David Buchanan with a double? WTF?
Batting average now significantly more than Choke, Utley, Herrera, Sizemore, and Revere combined.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 14, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on April 14, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
David Buchanan with a double? WTF?
Batting average now significantly more than Choke, Utley, Herrera, Sizemore, and Revere combined.
Switch: Let Howard pitch, let Buchanan play first.
shocking.
Choke got lucky - bad call by Marquez
Freddy Galvis is a brain dead retard too
Pretty sure that inning was only dramatic for Mets fans. Not very electric when you already know the ending.
Safe? Missed the plate? Who cares?
farging Ben with the arm!
ok offense....let's get some runs
Hahafunnyhaha
Ballgame.
Unless someone gets lucky and hits a three run homer
why are you playing lead cheerleader like its 2004 on the emb
AAA you farging goofball.
Don't you worry about me cheering, pal!
Grit busting out nicely tonight- and then Choke follows it up with a check swing joke
Not sure if you have the CSN feed or what, but TMac called McGowan "Marcum" three times in a span of 10 minutes. He loves those ex-Mets
why on earth would anyone watch the best broadcast in baseball over the worst
i dont care if you only have csn, easy. i dont!
No shot I'd choose TMac over the best booth in the bigs
And I think that was a bad call on Ruf - gotta see it from the side
Well sonofabitch.... That homer to Murphy is the decider.
6-5 loss...Revere with a poor AB ahead of Francoeur and was lambasted by Darling and Hernandez
Galvis overmatched and ODB looked bad too
SNY is blacked out. What else am I gonna watch?
Did Sandberg give any insight as to why the brain dead SS decided to try and bunt with Buchanan on 3rd and 1 out?
Quote from: BigEd76 on April 14, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
Not sure if you have the CSN feed or what, but TMac called McGowan "Marcum" three times in a span of 10 minutes. He loves those ex-Mets
I doubt it's a mets thing....they played together for like five years on the blue jays both coming up together as big prospects....I used to get them mixed up all the time and sometimes still have to stop and think "which one is that again"....some sort of illiteration in their names doesnt help either
went from asche to classy is on farging fire
definitely should keep hitting him 7th so jeff francore and the corpse of choke can get more at bats
at least hes playing him tonight against a lefty
lol the Phillies have the worst offense in baseball and GRIT is bunting in the 5th inning with risp
can we all stop it and just admit rough sucks
If Sandberg called for that Utley bunt he should be shoved in front of the 7 train.
It Utley bunted on his own he too should be shoved in front of the train
individual moments from meaningless games involving washed up fossils definitely matter
Maddening to watch them squander so many scoring opportunities tonight. Jesus Christ get the goddamn ball out of the infield
gonna be even more maddening this weekend when you have even odds on the phils against fister zimm scherzer and stras
is it also maddening to watch a baby not be able to shtein in the toilet
Nice wasted 2 on and no out
Gritty Mfunholeouchable strikes out and then the French dood goes 6-4-3
funholes
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
Nice wasted 2 on and no out
Gritty Mfunholeouchable strikes out and then the French dood goes 6-4-3
funholes
I'm beginning to think the Phillies might not be very good.
even though they have no talent and a roster full of has beens and questionable young talent, they still should be able to execute and win games and win the world series
come on qb
Two runner on again - how will they spoil it this time?
the farg are you talking to....nobody gives a shtein
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Two runner on again - how will they spoil it this time?
The only spoiling tonight is gonna be the end of this Magic-Nets game.
2-16 with RISP tonight and 3-27 for the series.
Nice job
Had it on for all of five minutes. Then went with NHL playoffs with a skosh of NBA.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 15, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
2-16 with RISP tonight and 3-27 for the series.
Nice job
they are who we thought they were
I would rather listen to a Rick Santorum campaign rally speech than watch these shteinheads.
choke is batting 7th tonight....first time in 9 years
best 7 hitter in the league :sly
LOL @ trying to hide him at 7th.
Nice try but he's still as useful as a whale stranded on a beach.
game 1
nats -1.5/-128
i got em at even
Quote from: Rome on April 16, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
I would rather listen to a Rick Santorum campaign rally speech than watch these shteinheads.
Can Santorum execute the basic bunt?
Heidi: one pitch one run
Home Run Heidi is at it again.
For fargs sake, ACE, keep it in the yard.
The inability to LAY DOWN A GODDAMN BUNT is comical
Saved by Brycie's zesty defense. Nice catch, buddy!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 16, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
The inability to LAY DOWN A GODDAMN BUNT is comical
yet the manager is still making it a big part of his offensive strategy this year
Huh look at that...another stellar defensive play by Washington.
unbelievably stupid walking choke there
Speaking of Choke -- after Tarasco and Brycie said something to the ump about Hamels balking he should've called time and let him know to chill out with the illegal move. He'll be should've seen it on his own and said something
And Heidi should know better too. Nice play, ACE
you care whether they win or not more than anyone in the world but you definitely care more about them winning than either Heidi or choke....Heidi is waiting to get traded and choke is counting the days till he can retire in his clearwater mansion...you honestly think they are going to take the time to talk about a heidis move to home
nm
They should care.
HOME RUN HEIDI
CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
HOME RUN HEIDI
CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
If there's a record for most solo home runs given up to start the season Cole had to break it
Ballgame
farg off Hamels you farging soft batch clown
sorry j tonight was your one chance to salvage a game this weekend
Nah they will win the next three!
Mets' Matt Harvey keeps Chase Utley and Phillies in check (//http://)
QuoteMore importantly, by plunking Chase Utley square in the back — and then staring him down — Harvey sent a message to his teammates and opponents alike that the Mets mean business these days.
New low?
Meh...not even newsworthy in my opinion.
Hey hey hey! More RISP fail by the Phillies
Somebody on the Mets should have been brained after that, though.
Agreed.
Duda or Wright should have gotten it
buchanen hit two mets before that....the mets responded with a non head shot and both teams moved on....it played out exactly as the unwritten rules call for
stop being homer cry babies
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 16, 2015, 08:44:08 PM
Mets' Matt Harvey keeps Chase Utley and Phillies in check (//http://)
QuoteMore importantly, by plunking Chase Utley square in the back — and then staring him down — Harvey sent a message to his teammates and opponents alike that the Mets mean business these days.
New low?
yeah, for the Mets. Setting the tone againt the train wreck known as the Phils that you're one bad ass team to be reckoned with is straight up pathetic. Staring down a broken down dude batting .140, I'm scared.
when did j get this bad....was he always like this and no one noticed?
J isn't anything but a fan. I know they're zesty but I'm still going to root. We go through this same conversation every year.
And Buchanan didn't hit them on purpose. His control was shtein.
Not so annoyed by hitting Utley, but the posing afterwards by Harvey needs to be answered.
Of course, since the Phils won't be in most of the games, it probably doesn't matter anyway.
i dont really see what harvey did that could be described as a "stare down" or "posing."
what do you want him to do? bow down the shrine of GRIT?
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Quote from: MDS on April 16, 2015, 10:57:59 PM
what do you want him to do? bow down the shrine of GRIT?
in short yes
And lol at "Buchanan didn't do it on purpose"....that's not how it works
Oh really? So every hit batter is on purpose?
Buchanan was not trying to hit those guys. Even Darling and Hernandez said that he was wild and they weren't on purpose. So lolol all you want but a guy who is struggling to stay in the bigs isn't going to bean guys on purpose. And I am not saying that to be a homer. Anyone, well anyone but you and anti-Phillie lil guy, can see that.
And lil guy gets proven wrong again...Harvey did stare Utley down like he was some kinda badass.
Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose. He's a lousy pitcher. Sometimes balls get away from a pitcher.
And Harvey definitely stared Utley down. Who cares. The Phils are lousy. If these two teams were vying for a playoff spot the drama would be great.
it doesn't farging matter....you hit two guys on the other team within two innings one of your guys is getting plugged...its just how it is
probably one percent of every batter ever hit in the major leagues was intentional...and 90% of all those came after someone getting unintentionally hit
and lol at getting upset about Harvey...that's just pure jealousy....if the Phillies had a guy like that who stared a met down youd be jerking your junk all over your keyboard
the roster stinks, the ace is in full pouty diva mode, the front office sucks, the future looks crappy and fans want to complain about utley being thrown at ?
c'mon jay, this is so far down the ladder it's not even funny.
yeah mets are probably my most hated team in all of sports and I cant even get upset....Phillies deserve whatever they get
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
probably one percent of every batter ever hit in the major leagues was intentional...and 90% of all those came after someone getting unintentionally hit
Yup. In fact I would say that batters intentionally get hit more often than the pitchers intentionally target them. [Utley perhaps most of all.] You can kill a guy or at least farg up his career if you hit him in the right way, that's not something that pitchers are doing very frequently except for express retribution.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 17, 2015, 11:45:47 AM
You can kill a guy or at least farg up his career if you hit him in the right way
and to this point is why I mentioned Harvey did it the right way....he didn't go at utleys head or anything....shtein he didn't even go towards the elbow or hands....square in the back a little stare down and everyone moved on....it was a textbook mlb beanball episode on both sides
ben davis made that very point that harvey did it right.
He threw at him right, yes...in the middle of the back.
My response was to mds saying that Harvey didnt stare him down. Utley handled it right he ran down to first and even made the comment afterwards that it was nothing.
The stare down was like he wanted a fight. Or like he was marking his territory or something. If he wants that then the next ball to one of their stars should be off their back. Give them what they want.
no what you said was that buchanen didn't do it on purpose therefore Harvey was out of line in retaliating
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.
I agree that Harvey hit him the right way by not going at his head or hands.
It never ceases to amaze me how much you people can talk about the Phillies. Why even expend the energy discussing this joke of a team. There has a to be a Phillies message board somewhere. Right? Somewhere else, other than here. Right?
I thought there should have been retribution, if for no other reason than it would have brought a modicum of entertainment to a team that is currently devoid of that element.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 17, 2015, 12:34:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how much you people can talk about the Phillies. Why even expend the energy discussing this joke of a team. There has a to be a Phillies message board somewhere. Right? Somewhere else, other than here. Right?
i might be wrong but i think there may be some non phillies threads on this MB.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.
omg no one even argued that point....what you don't understand is that it doesn't matter....you don't know how baseball works...he farging hit two mets in like an inning and a half....it DOESNT MATTER if it was intentional or not a phillie is probably gonna get plunked
The plunk/staredown was the completion of the transaction started when the Phillies slop pitcher lost control. Utley's a big boy, I think he's the active MLB leader in HPB. He doesn't need people protecting him. When Buchanan faces the Mets again, he'll probably hit one of them anyway because he sucks.
Harvey is a professional, Utley is a professional, the only thing about this I expect to continue is the Phillies starting pitcher being unable to hit the side of a barn.
did anyone see that e:60 on Harvey....maybe he has mellowed a little but im kinda surprised he didn't go at GRIT's dome piece....dook is farging wired and maybe not all there...they showed some acc tournament game that he threw against Clemson where he woulnt come out even when the manager came to the mound....he ended up throwing a complete game with like 180 pitches or something absolutely ridiculous for college much less the pros
was it the same game wear a phillie was hit before utley that wasnt actually hit ?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 17, 2015, 12:51:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 17, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
I said and maintain that Buchanan didn't hit those guys on purpose.
omg no one even argued that point....what you don't understand is that it doesn't matter....you don't know how baseball works...he farging hit two mets in like an inning and a half....it DOESNT MATTER if it was intentional or not a phillie is probably gonna get plunked
I don't know how baseball works? Yeah ok.
AND I AM OK WITH A PHILLIE GETTING PLUNKED BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT WORKS - MY POINT WAS THE STAREDOWN LIKE HE WANTED A FIGHT
And I believe you "lol'd" when I said Buchanan didnt mean to hit them. Probably called me a homer too. I forget.
I lol'ed at that because you are clueless to how it works not cause you were being a homer (even tho you were)....and that its completely irrelevant as to whether it was intentional...also hilarious is the notion that you somehow knew it was unintentional but the mets who are major league players and ten feet away from it actually happening didn't know what was going on
your problem seems to not understand the unwritten rules of the game....of which many and maybe even this one are laughable...but that doesn't change the fact that they are what they are
You can tell when a guy is wild and doesn't mean to hit players. Even the Mets booth agreed that he wasn't going after them.
I played baseball for a long time and have watched it even longer. I know the unwritten rules as good as anyone. One thing in this world I know a shtein ton about is baseball (I am talking real baseball...not that WAR, VORP, Keith Law/lil guy bullshtein)
guys are still gonna go after a batter on the other team regardless.
hell i had a coach have his pitcher nail my player at the 12yr old level years back. my pitcher couldnt find the strikezone to save his life that game and hit two kids. the other coach told his son, the pitcher, to nail him. everyone in both dugouts heard him. well a cracked rib later i wasnt happy and he tried to deny it. i wanted curb stomp the fat farg but held back my anger. keep in mind this other coach was the president of our league.
and he was out as president three weeks later after being caught cheating in the district tourney.
my buddy just sent me this pic out of the blue. i lol'd.
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Lenny eating licorice and has the Jim Carrey Dumb & Dumber haircut...lololol
Bitchass Brycie's goes for a 3r homer in the first
Yay
O Dub with another triple and they actually scored
nats were - 240 tonight
This is depressing to watch.
NHL Playoffs are entertaining. Phillies aren't. And baseball's my favorite sport.
It's going to be a long summer.
I just hope they get the number one pick and theres an epic prospect at the top of the draft next summer...I don't care where in the system it is they need something in the organization to create some hope/excitement
They have to rid themselves of the hideous contracts and the dickface GM first. Then hope Mark Zuckerberg or some other billionaire buys the fossils out who've driven this franchise into the rocks again.
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
They have to rid themselves of the hideous contracts and the dickface GM first.
one has nothing to do with the other but there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the deals...heidi definitely and hopefully GRIT get traded this year...lee has a buyout next year
and this will be paplebons last year
they are stuck with choke and chooch for another year
Quote from: Rome on April 17, 2015, 09:20:37 PM
Then hope Mark Zuckerberg or some other billionaire buys the fossils out who've driven this franchise into the rocks again.
they have needed new owners for a million years....the current state of the franchise has nothing to do with the owners...it has to do with horrible scouting terrible contracts and just a general lack of knowledge in how to do a rebuild...they needed new owners in 2008 and they need them now but their current situation mostly has to do with all their good players getting old at the same time
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.
but anyway this year, you look at:
-asche: i think he's going to be a decent hitter. but franco is going to be the 3B and he needs to get going in LF yesterday. lets find out if he can hit enough and develop the required power to play that position.
-galvis: maybe. probably not. i dont see him working out here long term...they have too many better powerless bats. when things get real in 2017 or 2018 they are really not going to have lineup space for a .260 hitter who cant walk. he could become a decent utility guy/gypsy going from team to team to patch up SS here or 2B there for a half a season or so.
-od h: way too early but he's fun to watch so far. should start working in some 2B work with what quinn is doing in reading.
-giles: i fear he peaked last year. an arm blowout waiting to happen.
-franco: once he passes his service time threshold they need to call him up and let him go. we get it. he can hit minor league pitching. hes sucked in ST and in his cup of coffee last year. slow starter? sure. theres been at least 2 hall of famers that i think of (mays and sandberg) that blew in their first stretch of ML at bats. but hes not really gaining anything by playing in AAA anymore.
-jp: he's the only top level prospect they have. you god damn well hope he's jimmy II.
-quinn: co-worker of mine compared him to coco crisp. he can farging fly and has decent power. good arm. its only a week but his start at reading has given me a semi.
-the reading pitching staff: no cy young winners in there but some real decent chances to produce middle of the rotation starters. nola maybe can elevate to a 2. still missing that cy young-level horse. with harvey and fernandez in the division, they need to be able to have someone who can stand tall.
if youre going to concern yourself with the performances of sizemore, francore, utley, ruiz, howard, buchanan, etc. you are misguided and just wrong. it doesnt matter.
I care as much about them as I did when they were winning. I don't watch as many games because why bother? I'm basically boycotting them until Amaro is fired, but honestly, there's nothing remotely interesting about them now. As least the dreadful teams in the late 90's had Rolen and Schilling to look forward to watching play. This team is just totally bereft of talent and any sort of exciting guys. Hell, they don't even have any scrappy beer leaguers to cheer for.
Like I said on the first page... straight garbage.
Quote from: MDS on April 17, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.
like yasmany
I'm not boycotting, at least not consciously, but there's just little of entertainment value with this team right now. I'm much more entertained by the NHL and NBA playoffs, and would rather use my limited down time with that right now.
Once summer hits, where I have more time and fewer options, we'll see what happens.
I really like watching them lose when im getting free money from j
nationals -190 today
It'll even up the next two days. :-X
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: MDS on April 17, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
the money, to me, isnt really important. they arent good enough to warrant spending money on important free agents and wont be for 2-3 years...by that time they wont be paying anyone. the only thing it helps is if there's some awesome cuban out there they can buy.
like yasmany
yes. exactly, actually. essentially between 2016 and 2019 they can really start going to crazy with cubans. they arent going to be good enough to spend money on FA, and their in house guys arent going to cost anything. its this perfect middle area to splurge on cubans and hope 1 is yasiel puig.
just because MAG sucks or tomas blows shouldnt deter them. but it will.
It isn't so much MAG or Tomas, but their coaching sucks and their scouting blows. And RAJ swallows.
i know j is in because he was good in texas 5 years ago and thats his perfect storm.....but how about a choke for hamilton trade?
obviously they couldnt do it straight up. phils either need prospects or cash help coming back. but both are on the market and this is a perfect "Your problem for my problem" deal.
farg that bible thumping pos...id rather have choke for five more years than bring that jesus freak anywhere near the phillies
pretty sure he thumps more lines than bibles these days
theres one more year of choke....we are near the end....no reason to bring that farg face in
1 it opens up a spot for franco
2 the phillies dont have a corner of on their roster or anywhere close to their roster
3 it would be interesting....much more so than continuing to hit choke's corpse 7th
4 its a made up trade i made up. i made it up.
I bet theres not three guys in the league id want less than josh Hamilton...also hidden by the hideous person he is is the fact that he just aint any good
NO on Hamilton.
been 48 innings played on this roadie and the Phillies have led for 2 of them
Desmond lolol
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
Desmond lolol
He seems to have forgotten how to play second base. Goes well with Zimmerman forgetting how to throw from third.
Or with the entire Phillies team forgetting how to play baseball.
And Bryce Harper forgetting how to be a male
I've got a full blown man crush on Herrera...
Desmond plays SS and Zimmerman 1b
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Desmond plays SS and Zimmerman 1b
Zimmerman used to play 3B before he forgot how to throw.
As for Desmond... whoops. I messed that one like he does a double play.
Doooooobie!
j
desmond or galvis
Building a team to win now or acquiring a guy for a playoff push and you take Desmond. Even with the defensive miscues you take his offense and replace him late in the game if necessary.
jimmy the s brought this up today
phils made ender inciarte their rule 5 pick in 2012....he was returned to arizona so the phillies could sign ezequiel carrera. inciarte had a great rookie season last year and is off to a good start this year.
remember in 2005 i think it was they picked victorino in rule 5, then offered him back to los doyer....only los doyer didnt want him back.
but they held onto another rule 5 pick for the entire season in 2009 i think, so they wouldnt lose him. his name was michael martinez.
the phillies!
Yeah I was just reading that.
farging Mike Mike sucks.
Dave Hollins was a rule fiver too
Garland them with timeless lilies!
Although they are a bunch of dillies
Who give honest men the willies-
We still love them for their sillies-
Hail, The Phillies.
- James Michener
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/the-tightrope-of-baseballs-walk-year/2015/04/18/4b070e0a-e506-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html
Quote"Yeah, you should. You got the hammer," said Manuel, who grew up in baseball's pay-'em-peanuts era that lasted for almost a century. "Just make sure you use it. If you take some horsebleep deal and stay here, I'll never talk to you."
Manuel was dead serious, remembers Werth.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
theres one more year of choke....we are near the end....no reason to bring that farg face in
one billion percent agree. not so much because he's a hypocritical weak willed bitch ass christian (although that's a biggie), though. they need to get rid of hideous contracts, not replace them with those that are equally bad or in hamilton's case, worse.
j send me 65 bucks please....40 + fbb loot....I especially need that to pay the winner
On the way mañana!
I envisioned Grit going hard to tie it. Then realized he's the worst hitter in the majors right now.
paypal stillupfront's mom
I'm still +35 consider I jacked a bill from you :)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
On the way mañana!
I envisioned Grit going hard to tie it. Then realized he's the worst hitter in the majors right now.
second worst....behind one of his teammates...at least he has 8 rbi
combined they are 11 for 80
lol
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 19, 2015, 04:33:24 PM
I'm still +35 consider I jacked a bill from you :)
fix was in
sixers got to 18 then lost like 15 in a row to end the season....total con job against me
Hinkie Magic baby!
Chooch batting clean up tonight
love this team
Serious question: if a random member of this message board had been installed as Phillies GM back in 2011, would this team be in any worse condition than it is now?
Maybe they wouldn't be any better, and maybe they'd have Brett Myers signed to a 7 year contract, but I'm not sure they'd really be any worse.
Whatever happened to the Vorp guy
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 06:07:39 PM
Serious question: if a random member of this message board had been installed as Phillies GM back in 2011, would this team be in any worse condition than it is now?
Maybe they wouldn't be any better, and maybe they'd have Brett Myers signed to a 7 year contract, but I'm not sure they'd really be any worse.
I don't know I spent much of the offseason screaming at people who wanted to hang on and that it had to be blown up....seems like there were a lot of RAJ's on the board then
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
last year as much as i knew they would fail i could understand the homerism and even i bought in when the playoffs started...but this year can we please not act like they have a chance of winning the world series.....they are a buch of inury riddled senior citizens whose window has shut.....so stop discussing what they can or cant do to win it all next year
Yeah, none of the rest of us saw the demise coming, igs... just you.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Utley had almost no pop in the last two months - a total of 3 HR since Aug. 1, and Howard's numbers remained nearly stagnant from last year, even though he missed more time. More troubling is that Howard's slugging was below .500 for the first time in his career. Without monstrous power, Howard sucks the life completely out of the lineup. His injury could be a blessing in disguise, only if it spurs His Smugness to actually look for a bat during the offseason (I can't say I'm optimistic of Amaro spending money on a bat - they'll cry luxury tax).
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
One thing: The proverbial window is definitely closing - how quickly will depend on the front office's actions this winter. Without some aggressive moves, it could already be closed.
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Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it
lol right? IGY will perpetually claim something that eventually has to happen.
Reminds me of the GOP over the last 6 years with Obama. Eventually something will go wrong, and they'll start shouting that they've been saying it all along.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 21, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
Yeah, none of the rest of us saw the demise coming, igs... just you.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Utley had almost no pop in the last two months - a total of 3 HR since Aug. 1, and Howard's numbers remained nearly stagnant from last year, even though he missed more time. More troubling is that Howard's slugging was below .500 for the first time in his career. Without monstrous power, Howard sucks the life completely out of the lineup. His injury could be a blessing in disguise, only if it spurs His Smugness to actually look for a bat during the offseason (I can't say I'm optimistic of Amaro spending money on a bat - they'll cry luxury tax).
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 08, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
One thing: The proverbial window is definitely closing - how quickly will depend on the front office's actions this winter. Without some aggressive moves, it could already be closed.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Zn1xjQvhGuU/TAOa9T58lDI/AAAAAAAAAEk/tR9pVQa32XE/s400/gorilla_beating_chest.gif)
ignorance
Most Philly fans have a negative slant always... look at the results, it's justified. Phreak has soaked up enough Texas sun to be unabashedly positive sometimes but the closest most of us get to excitement is cautious optimism. igy chooses to cover everything in Philly sports with an extra layer of bleakness. I can't blame him too much, it makes winning that much more of a sweet surprise and the teams usually find a way to shtein all over positive things that happen anyway.
im an admitted hater but knowing the phillies window was closed and that they should have started to blow it up didnt take bleakness it took eyes
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it
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Stanton's dinger tonight was a moon shot. Holy shtein.
Yes it was...as soon as I saw the location and him start to extend his arms I cringed
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb
ben revere's little league triple was the best
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb
God forbid someone boos him. Oh he's fiery and gritty and said farg one time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
GRIT now 5-46 .109 2bb
Like you said last week, it's time to take him out back and put him down.
The two walks is much more amazing than the atrocious BA...couldn't believe that when I looked up his numbers...his on base is .154...WOW
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 21, 2015, 08:40:54 PM
Do you really get credit for calling a crash when you're a perma-bear though?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it
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Choke barely clearing CF shrubs last night gives me hope.
I'm watching this slop. Muted, of course.
Yeah, I'm done now.
You missed an Asche homer!
You also missed an owl on TV! No not a Temple Owl - a real one.
And I learned the reason they turn their heads so far is because their eyes don't move. Never knew that.
lol at balking the go ahead run in.
Another blistering demonstration of offensive firepower from these mongrels tonight.
Utley is a farging train wreck. He just dropped the ball!
And finally a smattering of boos for The Teflon Gritmeister
#phillies
Herrera makes a mistake now. Drops the ball and bases clear
farging ridiculous
Outta the inning if Utley catches the simple toss from Galvis for the force
holy crap, they suck
80
They literally are an abomination. As in the worst farging collection of horseflies on a steaming pile of shtein I've ever seen.
Six runs allowed, two earned.
I mean just no. NO.
i went to a game in dc over the weekend and only recognized a few names in the lineup. i also thought they lost 5-3 instead of won 5-3 so i may have been a bit drunk.
Quote from: Rome on April 22, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
They literally are an abomination. As in the worst farging collection of horseflies on a steaming pile of shtein I've ever seen.
dude they gonna win 80
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:33:43 PM
Utley is a farging train wreck. He just dropped the ball!
And finally a smattering of boos for The Teflon Gritmeister
I laugh at all the people who named their kids Chase
Big talk from someone who was named after Mike Maddux.
i know two awful people from high school that named their kid chase.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 22, 2015, 09:37:27 PM
Herrera makes a mistake now. Drops the ball and bases clear
farging ridiculous
Outta the inning if Utley catches the simple toss from Galvis for the force
Would've been a 1-2-3 inning if a-hole home plate ump called the 0-2 strike on Ichiro
farg it, here's that Odubel play again
http://m.marlins.mlb.com/mia/video/v84681283/miaphi-three-runs-score-on-herreras-miscue
marlolon byrd is hitting .115
ben lively with 6 shutout innings tonight
lets hear it for the legend roooooooooooooooob
Half the phils lineup is hitting under .200
the phillies are of course awful in every sense of the word, but the lineup they are going with today goes well beyond the point of abomination
herrera-revere-asche-francore-rough-hernandez-rupp-blanco-mcgowan
why not just forfeit and save time?
this is the team with the 8th biggest payroll in baseball at $143M
at least the 90's early 2000's teams had shtein payroll and you knew what you were getting.
I said that a few pages back. At least we had Rolen playing every night and Schilling once a week.
yeah but CBP alone makes it worth the trip to a game.
wait, no it doesn't.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 08:44:33 PM
80 wins, pal.
lets just keep referring back to these gems all year
The starting lineup today had a combined average of .219.
Two. Nineteen.
ROOB.
Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
The starting lineup today had a combined average of .219.
Two. Nineteen.
ROOB.
add in Dustin McGowen starting and you get free money
It's not that bad. It's worse. 80?
Just showed a bunch of kids in the crowd whooping it up. Probably the one time in their life they wished they were back in school. Algebra pop quiz > CBP shtein Show
QuoteThe announced crowd of 17,097 that came to see the two worst teams in the NL East on a chilly day was the smallest in the 11-year history of Citizens Bank Park.
17K my ass. More like 10,000 showed up.
QuoteIn fact, Papelbon wants out. He thinks he can help a contending team win a championship, and said he will be disappointed if the Phillies are unable to move him this season.
"Yeah, I will be," Papelbon said in an interview with CSNPhilly.com Phillies Insider Jim Salisbury. "If we continue to lose.
Papsmear, look in the mirror and repeat "I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough and doggone it, people don't like me".
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Omg
That play by Galvis!!
Damn he hurt himself though
What a play!!
Galvis is ok...whew
Helluva scoop by Choke on that too.
sevy gonzo called up and starting on tuesday
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
Galvis is ok...whew
yeah if galvis was hurt the season would turn into a disaster
Has nothing to do with the season and you know that. He's playing well and it's important for him to keep building on this and to have as many ABs as he can
Totally what I was saying. He made a great play and is hitting well. God forbid he stays healthy and continues to grow as a major leaguer.
Freddy Galvis has been the best player on the team thus far this season.
Think about that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 25, 2015, 10:16:20 PM
Has nothing to do with the season and you know that. He's playing well and it's important for him to keep building on this and to have as many ABs as he can
hes a utility guy....best case scenario
asche and franco are the guys to watch. franco more so. asche probably wont hit enough to justify his zesty defense and lack of speed.
and i guess odb, too.
He may fizzle out but he's exceeded what I thought he'd be with the bat so far. I had him pegged for a .235-.245 hitter with a great glove. But his approach has been much better this year and I'd like to see him log 500-600 ABs
Franco needs to come up in a couple weeks and play.
I wonder how much Dom is gonna play too
I don't want to see any Dom, he makes me angry. He was the one guy Rube tried to develop during the World Series window, and he is farging terrible. Nothing is being salvaged there, he sucks.
Galvis is hot right now. In fact he's having a significantly better season than Jimmy so far. But notice that Ed hasn't even posted a MOCK yet. That's because there is some reason to doubt the sustainability of what we're seeing, to put it mildly.
Ain't no mocking Jimmy!
But yeah he's struggling....
is it possible for a washed up old fart to suck, or are they just "struggling"
In the field for today's game:
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 26, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
In the field for today's game:
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Well at least they made an improvement in right field.
giles needs to stop walking people
he has a 0.00 era
and a 1.80 whip
you do whip?
that wasnt on the back of the baseball card when you were 12
yeah but its in our fantasy league
so are complete games, of which are there maybe 2 per week
Quote from: MDS on April 26, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
so are complete games, of which are there maybe 2 per week
can turn the tide of an entire matchup if you can pull one
one random good performance isnt saving my worthless team
yeah what the hell is wrong with you this year....i saw your record not knowing whose team it was and thought it was jon's brother or someone not doing their lineup....but you actually try
no clue
i havent been as into it this year....maybe because my bigger league is weekly and therefore zone out on the daily side. but all in all the players that i elected to draft arent good.
werent you super bullish about your staff
yea theyre still great
but wins and losses are totally random and my bullpen dudes blow up and inflate the era....well except for cole hamels lack of wins. i knew that was coming.
Lil ain't full IN and won't be until you remove pesky stats like RBI and add VORP and BABIP. Until then? Cursory glances at the lineup.
Freddy Galvis already has 4 games this season of 3 hits or more. Dee Gordon is the only player in baseball with more.
A totally different player at the plate.
Him, Revere and Odub are having good ABs.
Quite the imposing lineup of slap-hitters. Too bad there's no one on the team capable of driving them in. But hey, Mr. May is back, so yayyyyyyy!
hittin' season will soon be here.
Utley with two long drives that Jay hauls in. Dude is covering serious ground out there.
Junkballer Lackey is getting a lot of grounders. Someone get a farging big hit
Revere saved Mackanin and Asche from being put in the clown suit
Nice W if Papsmear can save it
Kenny G stepped his game up last night....no walks...now just need to deal paps so we can see him in the closer role
His velocity is still way down though.
But yeah deal Papsmear ASAP....I don't want him as the all time saves leader! Send him to Washington or Toronto
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top
no doubt and that was a nice audition for him in st louis last night.
He didn't look like a weeping twat when shtein went sideways either.
Sev and Chooch will be the first battery from Panama in MLB history when they start tonight
HOF was activated from the DL and will stay with the Pigs
Quote from: Rome on April 28, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
He didn't look like a weeping twat when shtein went sideways either.
Gonna miss that look.
Savino Bratton is starting tonight?
Quote from: smeags on April 28, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top
no doubt and that was a nice audition for him in st louis last night.
That is huge. As stated earlier, watch a lot of Doyers games (sorry bionic). Damn are they loaded with some incredible prospects. Sickening.
Sure is. Gonzalez vs. Wacha
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
best phillies news in a long time are the wainwright and mcarthy injuries....heidi stock rising to the top
i push the dodgers for seager or the sox for swihart
cards dont have a monster prospect like that now that tavares is dead
Tavares' corpse could hit better than HOF?
Get Seager and Guerrero from the Dodgers
seager is probably unattainable....hamels isnt roy halladay
and the dodgers just cleared out hanley so seager could take over at SS. i dont want to upset your delicate sensibilities kiddo but jimmy isnt a long term solution there.
anyway guerrero wouldnt a bad piece. but id demand pederson or seager. need 1.
aaaaaaaaand bucholz getting shelled tonight. boston's rotation is in shambles. i trust roob to use this to his advantage.
Amaro use something to his advantage? Ha.
Boston is gonna have to come off Swihart in any deal
Ugly Utley AB...again
Kid got rocked a bit in the first. Hope he can settle down.
What say you?
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Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins
I love Jimmy but he ain't getting the nod over Ashburn
Klein
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins/Roberts is a serious toss up. I'd go Rollins, though.
Quote from: SD on April 28, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Roberts
Schmidt
Carlton
Rollins
I love Jimmy but he ain't getting the nod over Ashburn
By far over Whitey.
A double for Odubel !!!
And Utley....stop the presses...GOT A HIT
Holy shtein, manufacturing!
Correct Geo, kid is getting slapped around.
And the thumping continues...Severino (iPhone tried to auto correct that to we drink lolol) is getting hit around. Getting too much of the plate. Come on, kid
Really there's Schmidt and Carlton and then there's everybody else.
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha
Hit the showers kiddo
One omission on the choice list: Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
One omission on the choice list: Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)
because the only people who have heard of him are extreme baseball nerds and geezers
id go: carlton, schmidt, rollins, roberts
robby was a hall of famer and all but his era was totally irrelevant. they won 1 measly pennant and were swept by the yankees. utley has a definite argument as one of the faces of 1 of only 2 good eras of baseball in the history of this wretched team.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha
Hit the showers kiddo
Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
One omission on the choice list: Grover Cleveland Alexander (How do you forget 373 wins?)
No love for Big Ed Delahanty? One of the all-time BA champions, plus he took a drunk dive over the Falls.
Let's face it, anything before 1920 wasn't baseball.
LA is going in on Dom Brown for apparently taking the allowed 72hrs before reporting to Lehigh since his assignment there after the rehab...even though he was there
@FranzkeLA: LA - "He should be thrilled. Through arbitration he gets a $2M dollar raise, for basically having one good month in his career"
Something strange has been going on with that situation. It wouldn't surprise me if Von Brown never played for the Phils again.
Diekman walked the pitcher and it hurt him
Says a lot that's he's relegated to pitching the 5th of a 7-4 game
I know this team blows and it is what it is but good lord Jake Diekman is just awful.
why are you watching this garbage
I often ask myself that same question. it's mostly back ground music in my office, only 4:20 PM here. Come June 1 when they're 20 games out I'll probably stop. Plus it's the first go around in the schedule so it's cool (and depressing) seeing who's who and who's got what.
Why not watch? Flipping around to this and NBA and other shtein
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
Why not watch? Flipping around to this and NBA and other shtein
because they are a boring awful team playing a bunch of worthless geezers
They're showing some fight tonight
Galvis with another fantastic game and Odub has some good ABs
asche starting some LF work with the franco countdown clock ticking
this either means the end of ben revere or that his noodle arm moves to RF which would be hysterical
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 28, 2015, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Well he just gave up a RBI single to Wacha
Hit the showers kiddo
Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha Wacha
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I know this shouldn't surprise anyone but I actually laughed out loud when I saw this.
lol that is pretty good
Geo always come through.
pretty good broadcast going on over espn
its a bit cards heavy since the phillies suck.....but they arent back of the baseball card stat worshiping so thats welcome
Dumb farging idiot Revere...and Sandberg too
Would Ryan Howard still have a respectable batting average if not for the shift?
Good start today
Francoeur is useless and Buchanan is a farging batting practice pitcher
I admire the fact that this team somehow still finds a way to irritate you.
jay still wont come to grips with the fact that the 08 run is over.
I know 08 is over!
O'Double with an RBI...he's a helluva find by Amaro. Shocking.
EL - I hate bad baseball. Major leaguers shouldn't be stupid or not fundamentally sound and when that happens I drives me bonkers. Being not good is one thing but when they make stupid mistakes or the manager is a half-wit it makes me crazy.
considering this team, its a testament to your character jay that you arent in a straightjacket.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 30, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
EL - I hate bad baseball. Major leaguers shouldn't be stupid or not fundamentally sound and when that happens I drives me bonkers. Being not good is one thing but when they make stupid mistakes or the manager is a half-wit it makes me crazy.
so you want a bad team thats smart, fundamentally sound with a smart manager
seems possible
Relax J, Dickface and his 10.00 ERA is in.
Is it "let your kid who should be working at dominos pizza pitch day"?
Buchanan should never make another start
when i see phreak posting in the phillies thread...
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Hahah nice
Remember when the Phillies were fun
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/9782246/v20050575/
Three things:
The catch was great.
The PBP commentary by Harry Kalas was even better.
Sal Fasano's mustache = epic.
Tee ball pitcher David Buchanan has been sent down.
Finally
What other tee ball pitcher is replacing him?
Looks like Chad Billingsley.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 02, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
What other tee ball pitcher is replacing him?
None
They're dipping into the Babe Ruth league and bringing up Billingsley
Turned on the game just in time to see Prado teeing off on Heidi
Three run shot
6 runs on 10 hits for Heidi
Nice job
LOL at that little bitch.
yea this was the game that ended their playoff hopes
nice job
Quote from: MDS on May 03, 2015, 01:44:23 AM
yea this was the game that ended their playoff hopes
lol
fans are fascinating creatures
Fewest runs scored in MLB to this point.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 05, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
I like that he started it in such a loud and look at me way so he can enjoy it when the Phils aren't as bad as he thinks they'll be
fraud
blah blah blah...
is this how you act when the cowboys beat the eagles?
because when the eagles beat the cowboys im certain you are rubbing it in
So you're rooting against the Phillies? You like to rub it in?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2015, 04:59:19 PM
So you're rooting against the Phillies? You like to rub it in?
today i was because i had cosart going in my big league
mostly im indifferent
but i do like to rub it in to you in the same you gloat to one of your clients who is a cowboys fan when mel kiper jr gives the eagles a higher grade in their draft than the cowboys got
i know the baseball draft isnt what other drafts are but why would you not root for the phils to get the number one pick next summer....for one its the only way they are getting any attention or interest and two its the best thing for the team
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2015, 05:33:01 PM
i know the baseball draft isnt what other drafts are but why would you not root for the phils to get the number one pick next summer....for one its the only way they are getting any attention or interest and two its the best thing for the team
but 80
Meh...they'll lose enough to get a high pick but that ain't gonna stop me from rooting for them. Don't get how you can't understand that
oh i understand it....its insanity...but sure
but you cant make wild, stupid predictions and not expect to get called out on it. nobody else does that here. nobody.
Kinda like that wild over Sixers win bet eh?
Season ain't over son.
that was a toss up going into the season...if we had bet on 25 or 30 it would be wild
if we bet on the phillies o/u 60 it wouldnt be wild....but you said 80 wait youre trolling STOP
80 truly is the epitomy of homerism
this blake swihart looks like hes 12
does not have a middle of the order body to me
Utley is hitting .108
It's a gritty buck oh eight though!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
Utley is hitting .108
It's a gritty buck oh eight though!
That was going into tonight's game. After an 0-for-4, he's down to .103.
Phillies farged up my streak for the cash tonight.
So is the .100 average now the Utley line?
phils got that dub
Indeed.
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip
hes learning
Phillies finally busting out the sabrmetrics... but only to make excuses for Grit.
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip
hes learning
everyone knows how terrible he is this year (an amazing .103).....but hes hitting .215 since last april 15th i think....555 ab's or something like that...its weird how many people act shocked about him right now like it came out of nowhere
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip
.082....league average is .293....holy shtein
zolecki says phils favored to get this guy...
Jhailyn Ortiz | Rank: 1
Hometown: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Position: OF
Age: 16
DOB: 11/18/1998
Bats: R T
hrows: R
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 260 lb.
Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 65 | Run: 35 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50
Two words come to mind when Ortiz's name is mentioned: raw power.
Ortiz has the most raw power in the entire class, the type of power scouts have not seen from a player his age in years. The teenager puts on a show during batting practice and more importantly, he has shown the ability to hit for power in games. His home runs are legendary, and his line drives into the gaps are just as impressive.
Some scouts have concerns about his overall athleticism and wonder if his large frame will eventually force him to switch positions from the outfield (left field) to first base. Others believe he has the tools to stay in the outfield and he will only get better on defense and as an overall hitter once he signs and is placed into a team's academy. One thing is certain, the type of power Ortiz has does not come around very often and the team that signs him is getting a player that can not only hit home runs, but can hit them into the upper deck.
choke jr?
6'2 260? Jesus christ. Dude's either built like Dwayne Johnson or is a tub of lard.
And it's not like he's a grown ass man either. He's 16.
Another solid outing for the Fightins.
And there's this:
QuoteSandberg said it was "a pretty good possibility" Utley's break "from the mental side" will continue through Wednesday's final game of the series. Sandberg said Utley has "hit the ball very hard, right on the nose," but hasn't had any luck.
1) Utley's slump isn't mental.
2) He HAS hit the ball significantly less hard than in past seasons.
3) If it's luck (and partially it is -- he's not THAT bad), what's the point of holding him out?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 05, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
roob mentioned utley's babip today on wip
.082....league average is .293....holy shtein
Is there a funnier/sadder stat than Utley leading this team in RBIs right now?
phils didnt get that dub tonight
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 05, 2015, 11:07:32 PM
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one of the greatest cartoons ever and very fitting for this team. :yay :yay
elias: only four players in the last 50 years hit .115 or lower in their first 100 plate appearances and finished the season above .200
grit is at .103 thru 99 pa
oh and if anyone cares.....
kevin kouzmanoff - 2007, royce clayton - 2001, don wert - 1969, mike epstein, 1968
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 06, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
oh and if anyone cares.....
kevin kouzmanoff - 2007, royce clayton - 2001, don wert - 1969, mike epstein, 1968
chase utley - 2015 .... right jay ?
Sure why not?
why cant they win 80?
why cant the eagles win the super bowl?
why wont hinkies plan work?
everything's coming up philly!
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 05, 2015, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 05, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
.082....league average is .293....holy shtein
Is there a funnier/sadder stat than Utley leading this team in RBIs right now?
QuoteUtley, 36, has not doubled in 87 at-bats. He had 10 through the same number of at-bats last season, when he was an all-star for the sixth time. He is hitless in 15 at-bats since his home run Friday in Miami. Despite his struggles, Utley's 14 RBIs still led the Phillies going into Tuesday.
It's so sad it's funny. Unreal.
utley down to .102!
how lowwwwwwwwwwwwwww will it go?
oooo baby its now at .101
we're getting under the utley line tonight folks
Ends the night at .099. That's gritty.
beat harvey.........................80!!!!
Did it hurt to see them win tonight?
billingsly is the hindenberg
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 10, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
billingsly is the hindenberg
Fits right in with this team.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 10, 2015, 03:16:29 PM
billingsly is the hindenberg
:-D LOL! "The horror!" sure does sum it up.
in lieu of talking about this worthless used tampon of a team (80?!?) im just gonna post youtube videos from when they were good
first up is one of my favorite, albeit random comebacks from the glory days. i remember joe torre's corpse leaving his pitcher out to dry in the 8th too long...but this was classic phillies. big hits from AAAA players like francisco and valdez. werth doing werth thing. they just owned this POS dodgers team and that shook donkey jon broxton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4MJKdHIbAk
Wait...why is Wheels in the booth
Wheels is in what booth?
Odub needs to sit for a bit. 2-23 with 14k's...yuck
And I've seen about enough of Asche. Franco come on down
Diekman has lost it as well.
yea the AAA player needs to "sit for a bit"
what does that even mean
Don't play stupid.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
Wheels is in what booth?
Odub needs to sit for a bit. 2-23 with 14k's...yuck
And I've seen about enough of Asche. Franco come on down
Not sure how many CSN broadcasts you've seen but Ben Davis sounds like Wheels
Dubz hit his first career HR in the 9th
and Asche was shipped to LV after the game to learn LF. Maik comes up this weekend after the 40-day cutoff that delays free agency another year
I never thought he sounded like Wheels. He has t said no doubles or middle in yet I don't think.
Good to see Asche go down - maybe he'll learn how to hit while he's there too.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
Don't play stupid.
im not....just trying to get you to stop regurgitating whatever you heard harold reynolds or wheeler say on tv in the early 90s. there is absolutely no evidence to suggest "sitting for a few days" does anything to break someone out of a slump.
also herrera isnt really even in a slump. hes not a major league player (yet). hes going to look really bad at various points. sorry its cutting into your 80 win juggernaut.
Sitting someone allows someone else who isn't totally sucking to take their place. Also - taking a couple of days off gives everyone a breather. From them ,from you, from the situation... everything. I don't know if it's statistically quantifiable, but it's true in the real world.
Yeah what Rome said.
Young buck struggling like that? Sit for a couple games and hit the cage.
But I forgot your baseball intellect is way higher than us plebes. Can't figure out why you're not a GM or at least a manager.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
But I forgot your baseball intellect is way higher than us plebes. Can't figure out why you're not a GM or at least a manager.
thats very accurate. i would make a great gm but for a variety of reasons it was never my career path.
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Sitting someone allows someone else who isn't totally sucking to take their place. Also - taking a couple of days off gives everyone a breather. From them ,from you, from the situation... everything. I don't know if it's statistically quantifiable, but it's true in the real world.
i dont know what that means.
plenty of players simply hit through a slump. "taking a few days" is cliche nonsense you heard when you were a kid or something and you just bring it up because you think its right. it doesnt mean anything. kind of like this conversation.
you both are right
big picture taking a few days off isn't going to magically make someone a better hitter....but rest in any sport can help a player both physically and mentally....that's just a fact
but this example on its own is rather laughable....the season is just over a month old...it comical to think that a 23 year old on a zesty team with no pressure on him needs time off....basically whats happened is hes not that good to begin with and theres a book beginning to form on how to pitch him since hes a rookie....he needs to make adjustments now....and that is done by getting major league at bats....not taking a day off or in the batting cage
completely sending him down (which they cant do) makes way more sense than some pine time
is this really going to turn into a 5page debate over cody asche being sent to the minors ?
this is the sad state of this team.
not talking about cody asche....i think maybe you need some time away from the game playa
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 11:26:56 AM
you both are right
big picture taking a few days off isn't going to magically make someone a better hitter....but rest in any sport can help a player both physically and mentally....that's just a fact
i can deal with this....im really just challenging j because he is a parrot baseball fan who repeats what wheeler said in 1995 during the glory days of his youth in pville (what up tex!)
Quote from: smeags on May 12, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
is this really going to turn into a 5page debate over cody asche being sent to the minors ?
this is the sad state of this team.
asche was sent to the minors to learn a new position because he wasnt good enough at the position they taught him how to play. also hes not going to be good enough for the new position hes learning but really does it matter?
theres two things to talk about regarding the Phillies this season
1. the status/fate of their younger players/prospects - good or bad
2. veterans getting traded
that's it...that's the list
if you cant handle either of those topics then just don't pay attention to them at all
I do not and have not listened to Chris Wheeler when it comes to anything that has to do with baseball strategy or philosophies.
That's akin to me listening to you.
They have the #1 pick in the 2016 draft right now, so that's a 3rd thing to keep an eye on
don't get me wrong id rather have the 1 than the 2 but until I hear that there is a darryl strawberry or bryce harper at the top of the draft baseball drafts don't mean much and tracking draft position is futile
pretty sure predicting who will and wont be available in june 2016 is not exactly a smart thing
A Met or a Nat. LOL
If Harper was available is want them to pass. Colossal douchebag and his parents are too
For real? I would trade the entire lineup for Bryce Harper without even thinking about it. For that matter, maybe the whole team.
Yep I don't like him and haven't since him and his parents had him drop outta high school
I don't particularly like him either, but I do like that he's good at baseball.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 12, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
They have the #1 pick in the 2016 draft right now, so that's a 3rd thing to keep an eye on
Watch a Luis Garcia tossing slow pitch softball out there tonight and you'll find a lot to talk about.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:20:37 PM
If Harper was available is want them to pass. Colossal douchebag and his parents are too
Culture
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 12, 2015, 01:34:40 PM
don't get me wrong id rather have the 1 than the 2 but until I hear that there is a darryl strawberry or bryce harper at the top of the draft baseball drafts don't mean much and tracking draft position is futile
Phils wind up taking someone at #1 who turns into an above average everyday player and someone drafted after him is better - literally every single draft. I really wonder if the #1 pick has ever been the best (or at least arguably) best player of his draft class. I don't agree the baseball draft doesn't mean much but tracking draft position being pointless, I'm with you 100%
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 12, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Yep I don't like him and haven't since him and his parents had him drop outta high school
there is, a 1000% chance you would worship the ground he walked on if he was a phillie
mcnabb is one of the all time pieces of shtein and you have done everything but swallow his load....brett myers is a wife beating hillbilly retard. you love him.
dont be hating on the nl mvp
No shot. I'm on record for hating that dickhead and his idiot parents since they pulled that stunt. If he were a Phillie he'd still be a jerkoff to me.
Lolol at mcnabb being an all time piece of shtein. Bedtime for you, pal
bryce harper in phillies jersey instagramming a train disaster with a caption linking it to terrorism
I'd be inconsolable
Believe it or not, since the draft started in 1965, the Phils have had the #1 pick only once. Pat Burrell in 1998.
pretty sure I wasn't specifically talking about Bryce Harper but a transcendent overall number one pick who turned into a player
and i despise him but you are a moron if you wouldnt want him on the phils
Well I'm a moron then. Do not want. farg that goofball farg
Oh...I didn't know that because McNabb was a corny sob that it means I have to like all corny people?
I know you love Washington and Harper...but its gonna be ok.
harper isnt goofy....hes just a fleshpop...hes a yeah brah guy in the lenny dykstra mold
the bedwetter was triple goofy
And most of all an overly self entitled jerkoff
harper can eat a fleshpop. mainly because he isnt a phillie.
hed be an absolute legend in most peoples eyes including j's if he were on the 93 phils
Harper's what's missing from the current Phillies. I'm not saying he'd make them any better, but at least there'd be a young talented player to watch.
relax, franco to the rescue.
Quote from: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Harper's what's missing from the current Phillies. I'm not saying he'd make them any better, but at least there'd be a young talented player to watch.
hed also add in some attitude....the phillies are milquetoast boring on top of being absolutely wretched.
yea sure hes a fleshpop, but hes 1. not a criminal and 2. awesome. he also plays hard and doesnt give a farg, two things that would make him godly in philly.
who would want a young ultra talented player when you can win 80 with slop
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
less good players, more jeff francour
dont worry rome, he's not on the team and never will be so relax those liver spots of yours.
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
Culture
Quote from: SD on May 13, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
Culture
of losing
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.
Why is this hard to understand?
Since he appeared on SI as a 16yr old and his parents pulled that GED stunt I've hated him. So try to paint it anyway you'd like but you're wrong
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.
Why is this hard to understand?
because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
less good players, more jeff francour
The Phillies need good players who aren't iceholes just like :CF needs posters who aren't you.
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.
Why is this hard to understand?
because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization
Incorrect.
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 13, 2015, 10:27:45 AM
He's Papelbon-like on the jerkoff index.
By all means, let's get more guys like that on the squad.
less good players, more jeff francour
The Phillies need good players who aren't iceholes just like :CF needs posters who aren't you.
:paranoid
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 13, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
If Harper were on the Phillies, at any point in time, I would still dislike him.
Why is this hard to understand?
because you are the biggest homer in the history of western civilization
Incorrect.
you worshiped brett myers....cheered for dykstra....cheered for billy wagner....are essentially the only person who likes mcnabb.....and there are literally 100000 other examples of you being an unconscionable homer.....but yet you would put your foot down for bryce harper. ok.
i dont blee dat
there just isnt a chance in hell that if harper were drafted by the phils j would be making every excuse in the book right now as to why hes not a hatable guy...not sure why you are even continuing this
harper is a douche but why is anyone mad at him for getting his GED?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 13, 2015, 03:00:18 PM
there just isnt a chance in hell that if harper were drafted by the phils j would be making every excuse in the book right now as to why hes not a hatable guy...not sure why you are even continuing this
Read what I posted again...I don't like the dude. Phillie or not he'd be a dude bro jerkoff who needs to fail in baseball so bile has to get a job with his GED
I read it...I don't for a second believe you....I believe you believe it but theres not a chance you would ever hate a good philly athlete
Well good thing he will never be a Phillie!
Bowa on Maikel Franco:
Quote from: Larry BowaYou've got a guy in Triple A that might be as good a third baseman as I've seen — I know in this organization.
Ummmm, Larry...
(http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000086/86276e_med.jpeg)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 13, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
Well good thing he will never be a Phillie!
yea, good thing the phillies dont have any good players
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 13, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Bowa on Maikel Franco:
Quote from: Larry BowaYou've got a guy in Triple A that might be as good a third baseman as I've seen — I know in this organization.
Ummmm, Larry...
Don't lie Geo, you were thnking David Bell.
Grit at it again. Sure, he'll work his way out of this.
Damn, what a throw by frenchy. farg Papelbon but that was a sweet play to win it.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 13, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
Damn, what a throw by frenchy. farg Papelbon but that was a sweet play to win it.
Yeah, that was a nice play to end the game. I'd be excited if it actually meant something.
Though it may mean something if some team takes the 'smear off the Phils' hands...
Christ, I had Galvis dead to rights a month ago. Guy gets 3 more hits today. .353
And than we have Grit. 0-4 today.
Harang is going to be great trade bait
yeah I was just thinking, it's not too soon to move him at this point. there's no way dude keeps anything close to this up much longer, so get as much as you can now and sell.
Knowing Rube he probably gave him a list of 20 teams he could trade-block in his contract.
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait
he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang
Hurry up and trade him
Can't wait to see which future UPS delivery driver Amaro will get in return.
i know you only pay attention to grady sizemore's BA but the returns hes got for jimmy, rubber toe, byrd, etc. have been very well received
and he isnt scouting potential players they could get for harang....in fact he may just go for a PTBNL and they scout from a list for a few weeks, then pick. also hes aaron harang and they arent getting a pile of poop for him because hes aaron harang.
Oh please show me the way oh wise one. Please enlighten us!
Like you're the only one who pays attention to the minors? Keep ridin for your homie RAJ
its nothing to brag about, believe me, bur ive never gotten the sense you care at all about the future or the minors....youre always a here and now guy. win today. hit a homer, jeff francore! go team!
anyway, i will most certainly continue to educate you because you arent doing well in mds' baseball class
That's because the teacher sucks!
twitter is your teacher
Incorrect.
I know baseball just fine on my own
you disqualified yourself when you actually admitted youd rather have odubel herrera on the phils than bryce harper
You find where I said that. Didn't happen.
I mean you act like you don't hate good players. So what if I despise that dickhead?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 01:26:59 AM
You find where I said that. Didn't happen.
would you trade odie for harps straight up?
Of course. I hate the icehole but I'm not stupid
I hate Papelbon and he's on the team
Quote from: MDS on May 14, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait
he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang
Cheap veteran arm with playoff experience who's pitching very well. Not saying they're getting a teams top prospect but he's definitely worth a good prospect. Trade him, Hamels, Pap, get the #1 pick in the draft and suddenly there's prospects.
Quote from: SD on May 15, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
Quote from: MDS on May 14, 2015, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: SD on May 14, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Harang is going to be great trade bait
he might go for higher than anticipated....but hes aaron harang
Cheap veteran arm with playoff experience who's pitching very well. Not saying they're getting a teams top prospect but he's definitely worth a good prospect. Trade him, Hamels, Pap, get the #1 pick in the draft and suddenly there's prospects.
he can get you: a. a future middle reliever; b. a future kyle kendrick clone; c. a 1-tool position player. hes aaron harang. nobody cares that hes put 2 decent months together. there is 10 years of data on him and it all points to the indisputable fact that hes aaron harang.
pap cant get them a ton, but if they agree to eat his contract they can get something. hes really been good and a squad like the astros could use a back end dude.
hamels has been and will always be the guy. its him or nothing.
id love for them to get the 1 (sorry, tex) but they wouldnt get to use that pick until june 2016 and that player wouldnt become a viable prospect until 2018 or 2019. strap on your strap on and strap in....its a long climb to the top.
for harang to have any real value you need a contending team to have a pitcher go down and get desperate
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
for harang to have any real value you need a contending team to have a pitcher go down and get desperate
hes basically what moyer was back in 2007....an improvement over whoever the last guy in the rotation is for that team. the phillies at that point were trotting out scott matheison every 5th day so getting someone like harang would be a nice little deal.
a team can convince itself that hamels will make a difference and win them some games and be a horse in the playoffs. harang wouldnt even be guaranteed to pitch a playoff game if the team he is traded to makes it.
sunny got us free fabulous tenth row tickets to phils nats next saturday
if my math is correct heidi goes which means they actually have a small chance to win and now hopefully also get to see mikey franky
Grit dropped to sixth
South jerz contigent gonna riot
quiet tex....stop reading your twitter talking points. people have been killing utley. stick to houston sports radio please.
grady sizemore batting 3rd. holy crap. franco 5th.
farg you and your Twitter talking points! How ya like that?
alls i know is if you listened to the pulse of the city you would hear people begging utley to retire
or you could regurgitate something you heard in 2012. your call, lone star.
they want him to retire because they love him so much and cant stand seeing him like this.....which I get actually....but its not like they are saying retire you pos....he will get less boos this year than choke got in 2007
In the fans' defense, in 2007 it actually mattered if a player struck out.
Also, there were fans at the stadium to boo.
the ones there now somehow summon the energy to boo choke...altho in one of the mets games this year I did hear some grit boo's for the first time in his career
choke is getting booed harder that grit because of his contract and his propensity for striking out all the time
his black skin and field negro physique certainly contribute to the perceived hatred, but it really has more to do with his ineffectiveness relative to his salary
utley has been and will always be more popular because he is a good looking firmly shaped american white male who hustles all the time.
i dont expect a knee jerk bleeding heart or some dude from texas who cries whenever one of his hero athletes gets booed to understand this, but thats the truth
why were gawd and choke getting booed in mvp years?
Because...well, we know why.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
why were gawd and choke getting booed in mvp years?
i dont really remember that happening, but pat burrell was definitely booed and he is literally the most handsome man ever
the choke stuff started in 12 i think...right when his contract kicked in, his production dropped and the team started sucking royally.
one million percent happened
just because you choose to have your head in the sand doesn't mean it didn't occur
no one watches this stuff closer than me
and lol at using burrell as an example...he got booed cause he sucked
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think
lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial
choke would literally hit two homers and five rbi on friday then strikeout three times on Saturday and get booed
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think
lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial
there are frustration boos for any and all things....baseball is the sport where it's the most obvious because when someone strikes out 1000% of the focus is on them. i dont recall venomous choke hatred until 12.
his production really started slipping in 10 and 11 but even then it wasnt bad. in fact when his extension was announced, i think in 09, everyone was happy. the national media killed it but the phillies army defended it. 07-11 was really a south jersey love affair on the squad.
i love you for being a knee jerk bleeding heart but you go crazy for this kind of stuff and it really wasnt that bad. j is 1000% about a hero of his getting booed...same as mcnabb same as anyone.
jimmy I can even understand after he ripped the city (before he did that I don't get it)....that falls into the Schmidt kind of booing...of course they never said Schmidt was shiftless or lazy...but choke was nothing other than the ultimate upstanding citizen who carried the phillie torch as well as anyone ever has and said all the right things
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think
lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial
there are frustration boos for any and all things
never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:49:51 PM
jimmy I can even understand after he ripped the city (before he did that I don't get it)....that falls into the Schmidt kind of booing...of course they never said Schmidt was shiftless or lazy...but choke was nothing other than the ultimate upstanding citizen who carried the phillie torch as well as anyone ever has and said all the right things
he strikes out 150+ times a year...almost unequivocally on its own thats going to frustrate people
i never doubted that his color had something to do with it. hes a big black man. theres going to be negative attention because of that. but the hate really had more to do with the contract than anything. when you go 5/125 and your production craters youre going to get killed. even if your body is letting you down and even if you are a class act.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career
hes more popular and more beloved. nobody is doubting that. the most beloved eagle almost ever is b dawk who is crispy as hell. come on.
and choke's fielding improved in the sense that he went from awful to not as awful. he was never good.
grit was never good either....they both worked equally as hard to get better and both did...one was worshipped for it and the other was booooooooed
and stop using straw man arguments like pat burrell and dawk.....this is about double standards not about equal opportunity booing...we know the city boo's its athletes...this is not breaking news
post-12 everyone has definitely been harder on choke. sure. its been a little unfair, but his 5/125 is what it is.
between 07-11 there were some stuff here and there....big deal....more or less the players were walking on water and everything was lovey dovey.
but omg the hustling gritty white is more beloved that the slugging negro. alert the aclu!
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
never heard a frustration boo when grit was having steve sax type meltdowns.....but I did hear boo's when choke would throw them into left field....even tho he improved his fielding ten fold over his career
I do recall the stare down Heidi gave him in the 2009? NLCS at Dodger Stadium when McGritty booted a ball, may have been two actually.
Franco grounds out to third first at bat. He sucks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on May 15, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
the choke stuff started in 12 i think
lol...holy shtein....did you even watch the Phillies in the aughts....I was at numerous games when it happened...this is smeags level denial
choke would literally hit two homers and five rbi on friday then strikeout three times on Saturday and get booed
Yep.
And then on WIP fans would call in and lament that he struck out against a lefty who ate him up with sliders away. He was routinely ripped and booed.
Jimmy had a phenomenal run of years and he would catch boos for striking out or because he didn't walk. And the Voice of The People's airwaves would be lit with kenzo mouthbreathers ripping him because he had the audacity to pencil himself into the lead off spot and not be Juan Pierre of 2003.
farg outta here with the "they never got booed shtein"
im fighting with a drama queen bleeding heart and the most anti-philly homer athlete cock slobberer in recorder history
no point
lolol you can try to soften it all you want but...and it's ok to admit this...you're wrong.
Come on, guys: Chase doesn't suck... he's just unlucky! (http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/chase-utley-has-had-worst-luck-all-baseball)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 15, 2015, 09:45:31 PM
lolol you can try to soften it all you want but...and it's ok to admit this...you're wrong.
yea, im not
lifes been pretty good for choke and jimmy.....and grit. they arent victims. they are highly paid adult men who play a childs game. stop hero worshiping them.
No one is hero worshipping.
Igy and I are stating facts on this one. You couldn't be more wrong on this one if you tried. Your disdain and contempt for people being fans is funny
The drop-off was dramatic for Utley and Howard... maybe more like a bunch of athletes from the 1980s and before... well, before the steroids era. Rollins has slowed down a bit, but much more gradual than the other two. They basically fell off a cliff, especially Howard.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
The drop-off was dramatic for Utley and Howard... maybe more like a bunch of athletes from the 1980s and before... well, before the steroids era. Rollins has slowed down a bit, but much more gradual than the other two. They basically fell off a cliff, especially Howard.
yea but howard got booed so :-[ it makes me sad we should cheer him ;D go phillies
they all got old fast but apparently theyve all been public enemies since 2007
Three in a row!
All-Star Freddy would not be denied.
Nice save by Garcia. First two-inning save since... 2009 I think T-Mac said.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 15, 2015, 10:18:00 PM
All-Star Freddy would not be denied.
Nice save by Garcia. First two-inning save since... 2009 I think T-Mac said.
ryan madson
who actually is pitching this year for the first time since 2011
Wonder if his wife is bitching about living in KC?
http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117794383&sid=t534
The Diamondbacks just intentionally walked Utley. :-D
@MLBNetworkRadio: Luhnow on Hamels: I've talked to Ruben...When it comes to big names on the market, we're at least going to see what the asking price is
It'll never happen...but Carlos Correa please
Lol
this will end well
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:58 AM
@MLBNetworkRadio: Luhnow on Hamels: I've talked to Ruben...When it comes to big names on the market, we're at least going to see what the asking price is
It'll never happen...but Carlos Correa please
oh no...houston feelin houston.
focus on the pitching from the astros system. i know the astros are your squad and all but theres this jp crawford guy
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?
1000% if anyone but roob was gm
50/50 with roob as gm
Quote from: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?
Havas is right...50/50 with Amaro calling the shots.
And mds...since you're a connoisseur of minor league baseball I'd expect you to know how good Correa has been. Stop homering it up for JP Crawford.
I'm still waiting for Philly luck to rear its ugly head and Hamels' UCL snap.
im still waiting for them to be sold
todays giveaway
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFONCDiWAAAL81R.jpg)
fiiiiive in a row
Lil guy mad as hell right now
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Dillen on May 17, 2015, 12:48:26 PM
Does everyone think Hamels definitely will be traded this year? Odds?
Havas is right...50/50 with Amaro calling the shots.
And mds...since you're a connoisseur of minor league baseball I'd expect you to know how good Correa has been. Stop homering it up for JP Crawford.
i never said he wasnt good....just that you have one of the best prospects in baseball in your own system
if you can pull off a trade for hamels with houston, id look more at their pitching and especially getting santana back. a corner OF who can hit in the middle of the order is precisely what this team needs.
Amaro would try to get Singleton back watch
o'sullivan getting jacked in the throat by a toss-back might be the most entertaining thing i've seen all year from these losers.
and five in a row is pretty much the worst thing that can happen. any sign of a pulse further delays the inevitable. fire ruben or gtfo.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 17, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
Amaro would try to get Singleton back watch
whatever they do, amaro will be wrong but it won't matter because the phillies will still win 80 because they are my most favoritest team leggooooo sports
Stick in the mud.
lil guy is the guy who'd win the lotto and bitch about taxes
they won 5 in a row! its awesome! im with you! goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo phillies
Quote from: Rome on May 17, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
o'sullivan getting jacked in the throat by a toss-back might be the most entertaining thing i've seen all year from these losers.
and five in a row is pretty much the worst thing that can happen. any sign of a pulse further delays the inevitable. fire ruben or gtfo.
i want them to win two games the rest of the year cause ill be there...saturday in washington and june 13th at the mets
Billingsley to the DL with a shoulder strain - Hector Neris will make the start
Between the payout the Dodgers gave him to go away and the money Ruben gave him to sign, Billingsley will make the princely sum of ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS per start (presuming he doesn't throw another pitch this year).
cliff lee hasnt thrown a pitch since last july and hes making 25 mil this year
in fact hes not even with the team....hes getting paid to rock out in arkansas
thats more amazing
What a scumbag
http://thebiglead.com/2015/05/17/awful-phillies-fan-rips-ball-away-from-old-lady/
total cockface.
of course this will make the rounds on all the major media outlets and once again hand the crown as worst fans, right back to philly.
Did that ever belong to someone else?
If she wanted it, she should have fought harder. Weak ass *white* bitch.
* edited for clarity *
typical philly fan.
Oh dear lord is Matt Stairs homerism sickening. Grit batting "What you say? Home run here?" I could go on but I won't.
More bums fans in Denver tonight than Rockies fans.
sandberg is insanely awful....such a horrible manager but the perfect man for the job
SIX IN A ROW...AH AH AH
that sound you heard was lil guy firing his Bill James Bible through his tv set
i dont understand what that means
im mad that they won...the win defies some kind of advanced metric mindset...so i threw my non existent sabr book at a tv? you drunk tex
it means you hate the Phillies and sit around reading fairy tale baseball stat books
No drinking on a Monday night
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 12:11:36 AM
it means you hate the Phillies and sit around reading fairy tale baseball stat books
thats it, you got me
The Phils are impersonating an actual major league team! Fun to see.
But leave it to pap smear to almost choke it away. Rockies may be worse than the bums.
If nothing else Hamels is pitching like a legit major league starter now albeit against laughable competition. Hopefully some dopey team comes along and unloads a dumptruck full of beans for Roob to scoop up for him.
paps has been fantastic too....some contender is going to need a closer/late inning bullpen help and over pay for him
dont tell j about all these trades tho...hes not ready to give up on this season
80
hittin season.
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?
after tonight they're next 3 starters are
sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS
80!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?
hopefully hamels goes as well. then release howard and utley. time to move on from that run ... finally. even for you.
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
after tonight they're next 3 starters are
sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS
80!
heidi goes saturday
Quote from: smeags on May 19, 2015, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I hope Papsmear keeps doing his thing because Havas is right - someone will overpay for him. Maybe Baltimore or Washington?
hopefully hamels goes as well. then release howard and utley. time to move on from that run ... finally. even for you.
QuoteRyan Howard last 25 games: .287/.347/.598, 12 extra-base hits, 17 RBIs.
Slugging 77 points higher this season than collective AL DHs
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
after tonight they're next 3 starters are
sev gonzalez-j williams-SOS
80!
they're
as in there going to win all 3 of those games because their the best team in baseball
roob sees light at the end of the tunnel. no one tell him it's an oncoming locomotive.
:-D
Gonna hit the seven in a row tonight boys!
motherfarging Maikel Francoooooooooooooooooooo
throwing him a first pitch heater is a gift
legooooooooooooo
farging DeFratus...2 out hanging slider.
That and Ruiz hitting into the DP and them not scoring in the 1st is a killer
farging Chooch. And farg you Giles.
Franco, Herrera, Galvis there is hope for 2017.
Sorry, meant De Fratus. farg um' all actually.
Season over!
feels like game 5 of the 2011 nlds all over again
crushed
Skip Baymds chiming in...
Was watching the hockey game, and tuned in just in time to see DeFratus give up the home run.
The Fightin' Phils. In a nutshell.
LA is losing his mind that Severino has been lifted after 64 pitches.
He's on a roll...talking about how he got yelled at in the minors as a pitching coach for leaving Matt Beech in through the 7th when he'd have over 100 pitches.
LA in TV booth when? Stairs is horrible.
Stark was on with Miss yesterday and said teams are starting to take an interest in Howard. MOVE HIM for the love of God. I can see Amaro holding onto him because he thinks he's back his 2008 form.
This exactly. Thanks for the memories, Choje & Grit. Now gtfo.
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 07:28:50 AM
Stark was on with Miss yesterday and said teams are starting to take an interest in Howard. MOVE HIM for the love of God. I can see Amaro holding onto him because he thinks he's back his 2008 form.
unless im missing something tampa and anaheim are the only 2 teams he makes any kind of sense for. seattle and bodymore are big maybes. i cant see an NL team making a move for him.
id love for them to move him, of course, but im not sure if itll even work.
if he keeps hitting like this it will work itself out just fine.
you mean if they eat a ton of his salary it will work out fine
of course, pretty sure the team knows that and accepted it already. his performance, or lack thereof, has been the holdup.
salary is a major issue...its not about the fact that the phils have to eat some...its how much are they willing to do....and thus far thats been a sticking point
they could have traded him before this hot streak if they had hit the magic number on money
im not so sure on that with the way he was playing before the streak. i mean what teams were trying to get him ?
either way it still ties to his performance. the better he plays the more another team will be willing to pay him out of their own pockets. there's some real interest now. they need to listen, take the best they can get, pay what the have to pay and move him.
Stark said they could probably get a B level prospect and maybe have to eat less money, he didn't say how much though. Amaro thinks they're going on a run though so he'll hold onto everyone.
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
Quote from: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:48:08 AM
im not so sure on that with the way he was playing before the streak. i mean what teams were trying to get him ?
either way it still ties to his performance. the better he plays the more another team will be willing to pay him out of their own pockets. there's some real interest now. they need to listen, take the best they can get, pay what the have to pay and move him.
both factor in but its way more about the contract.....he could be playing horribly but if he didnt cost any money or minimal money a team will always take a flyer on someone with his pedigree
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
stop.
These little spurts make it bearable. I just want the rebuild to start already. I can deal with the losing if there's winning somewhere in the future.
None of this matters if Amaro is still in charge, though.
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure
stop. please. no farging WC run. blow it up !
cut the '08 cord and move on.
Quote from: smeags on May 21, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
of course, pretty sure the team knows that and accepted it already. his performance, or lack thereof, has been the holdup.
its nice, but its roughly a month.....he needs to be around this level in jewlie
anything they get for revere, choke or pap is gravy to me. they do it, great. they dont, whatever. i accepted those as lost causes years ago. its all about the hamels deal and it always has been.
they need to move harang stat before that old farger comes back down to earth
agreed on getting what they can get for those guys. especially howard, thats why i say move him now if there's legit interest. i dont trust that he wont be back to being a strikeout mchine. if stark is right about a B level prospect, take it. he's only in the way at this point. move them all.
hamels is the key when it comes to having any realisitic return.
again though, smug.
I think they can get a good prospect for pap if they eat some $.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure
I can have it both ways
I'm 100% for trading Harang/Hamels/Grit/Howard/Paps/Chooch/Revere and whoever else might be worth a damn. But they're probably not moving any of those players till the deadline because they'll get max value at that point unless someone comes along with an offer they can't refuse or another team suffers a major injury. If any of those players are worth shtein now by all means get rid of them, I just don't think a team is suddenly going to ante up because of a 2 week spurt. So it's win/win, if they can make it interesting and contend for a WC (I don't have my hopes up, I'm not J, I'm a realist, but lets play optimist here) then great. If not they hold a fire sale. I still don't see Reuben holding a fire sale.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
they need to move harang stat before that old farger comes back down to earth
Pretty sure he's on PEDs
But yeah move that farger asap, Stark said the teams he's talked to said he's their most tradeable commodity even over Hamels.
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:57:04 PMBut yeah move that farger asap, Stark said the teams he's talked to said he's their most tradeable commodity even over Hamels.
that makes sense....they cant get a ton for him because hes aaron harang, but essentially every contending team could use him except for the nats. everyone always needs pitching.
the only way theyre going to expedite the rebuild process and start a path toward Contention: 2017 is hitting on a hamels deal.
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Agreed...
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Nice crash landing today. Looking like the bums we expected. Jerome Williams needs to retire. Maybe his goal is to be on every staff in the big leagues before he retires. Hell, I swear he's pitched for half.
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.
Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 21, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: SD on May 21, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: Rome on May 21, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
The absolute worst thing they need is to challenge for a wildcard. They need to fail spectacularly enough to purge everyone over 30 and rid themselves of Roob. Nothing else is acceptable to me nor should it be to anyone who isn't a completely hopeless homer.
I'd be happy as shtein if they contended for a wildcard, that means they're at least interesting. If the old folks keep this up they suddenly become valuable and are maybe tradeable in the offseason. Of course, I'm also 100% for getting rid of them all at any point but if they're not going to trade them at least they can make the season interesting...which I don't think they will anyway.
thing is you cant have both...if they contend for a wc which is laughable but lets just say they do then they aren't going to trade anyone....you either jay it up and think they can contend or you blow it up....generally the value of any player much less older players decreases greatly in the offseason....you can maximize their value at the trade deadline...going into another offseason with all these guys would be a massive failure
I can have it both ways
I'm 100% for trading Harang/Hamels/Grit/Howard/Paps/Chooch/Revere and whoever else might be worth a damn. But they're probably not moving any of those players till the deadline because they'll get max value at that point unless someone comes along with an offer they can't refuse or another team suffers a major injury. If any of those players are worth shtein now by all means get rid of them, I just don't think a team is suddenly going to ante up because of a 2 week spurt. So it's win/win, if they can make it interesting and contend for a WC (I don't have my hopes up, I'm not J, I'm a realist, but lets play optimist here) then great. If not they hold a fire sale. I still don't see Reuben holding a fire sale.
oh right its one or the other....I misunderstood you and thought you wanted them to be contending at the trade deadline but still trade everyone
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 21, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.
Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.
Yep. Loved the little 7 out of 8 streak, great to see them win but good lord, we could pick 25 random people off this board and take 7 of 8 from the Dbacks and Rockies.
Quote from: Don Ho on May 21, 2015, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 21, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
They have the worst run differential in baseball. They clearly have the worst offense. At the end of the season, they will be a bottom 5 team in the standings, and they still have a decent shot at having the worst record overall.
Wild card is as obtainable as the World Series for this group. A six-game winning streak in May against other loser teams doesn't mean they're a decent team now.
Yep. Loved the little 7 out of 8 streak, great to see them win but good lord, we could pick 25 random people off this board and take 7 of 8 from the Dbacks and Rockies.
i'm playing 1B !
P matty - a little out there, a little shady, but that makes a good pitcher. you know the moment wont get to him because he'll probably be on something during it
C romey - only way to keep matty focused out there
1B igy - i like a big target at first
2B sb - obvs
SS sunmo - the undisputed leader
3B rjs - good reaction time
LF smeags - meathead masher position
CF mds - covers ground, has big penis
RF sd - strong arm from beating women.
DH j - multitasking not one of his strong suits, will provide expert cheerleading on the bench when on defense
Coaches
geo - smart man, knows how to fill out a lineup card, too old to play
donho - cooky bench coach who might or might not know where he is, too old to play
Bat Boy
munson - can go to trailer park and come back with tons of dip and chew
Hamels vetoed a trade Toronto
Any word on what the return would've been?
And I play 1B, son.
Yeah I'm definitely a defensive bench OFer.
Quote from: SD on May 22, 2015, 04:39:40 PM
Hamels vetoed a trade Toronto
if i read it correctly there was no official "trade," but merely some informal talks that were shut down because hamels didnt want to go there.
Todd, that lineup is farging hilarious!
Don Ho and I are "too old to play," but Romey's behind the plate... he's older than both of us!
I stopped playing softball in 2011 when my knee finally gave out.
The closest I get to playing now is wiffleball tournaments in the driveway.
And ftr I still smash the ball because I use electrical tape on the bat.
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on May 23, 2015, 08:32:11 AM
Don Ho and I are "too old to play," but Romey's behind the plate... he's older than both of us!
henry blanco played until he was 42
mike matheny was a manager at 41
some guys just still have it
Choke is on fire
franco's oppo shot was terrific
if he's gonna show that he's gonna be a keeper
greatest game ever
With his 0-4 today,Dom Brown is hitting .243 for Lehigh Valley and has not homered in his last 140 at bats
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2015/05/24/ryne-sandberg-upset-with-the-nationals-batting-practice-music-and-times/?postshare=5291432497979657 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2015/05/24/ryne-sandberg-upset-with-the-nationals-batting-practice-music-and-times/?postshare=5291432497979657)
OK, now you're reaching Ryan.
Saw that on Facebook the other day. Just exhibiting a loser attitude. Think they're tweaking you during batting practice - take it out on the other team. Don't bitch about it to the press.
all you fans do is bitch and complain. you dont know the game.
Didn't realize that Ryu had gone out for the season in LA. Wouldn't mind Hamels bringing back Corey Seager.
RAJ is too stupid for words...he's ripping fans for 'not understanding the game'...takes WS turns it into a last place team and signs god awful contracts. There's nothing close to a cornerstone player in the minors. Very hard to understand. It's funny the sox/cards/Giants of the world had good teams and kept competitive.
http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/05/26/philadelphia-phillies-ruben-amaro-rips-fans
was he doing a joe banner impersonation there ?
amaro's not wrong...the fans are morons, as is all of talk radio and most of the media when it comes to baseball....but as someone who sucks and is a fleshpop he should complain about the fans
Amaro is a smug, dismissive, arrogant douchebag of epic proportions. The major league team is terrible, old, and completely disgusting to watch while the minor league "talent" is mediocre at best. He's taken a World Series winner with a nearly unlimited payroll and turned it into a cellar-dwelling laughingstock, yet he has the audacity to attack the fans for expressing displeasure?
We know all of this. This is not news. This team and its ownership are a farging joke and it's going to take a whole lot more than the firing of this jerkoff to get it back to relevance.
Quote from: MDS on May 26, 2015, 05:14:15 PM
amaro's not wrong...the fans are morons, as is all of talk radio and most of the media when it comes to baseball....but as someone who sucks and is a fleshpop he should complain about the fans
You accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?
It's asanine to say that about your fan base no matter what team you're a coach/gm of, but it's especially idiotic when your team might lose 100 games. Miss interviewed him, he first apologized for his choice of words, then he made a ton of excuses for why he held onto players for too long, even though Miss asked him 2 years ago if he was making a mistake holding onto players for too long. He admitted the direction he took the team in was wrong but said they now have s new approach.
No lie anyone who posts in this thread could have done a better job than he did over the past 5 seasons. He doesn't see trends, doesn't know talent, can't draft, and waited way too long to hit the oversees market.
Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PMYou accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?
im in a very small % of highly educated fans....i know this and i dont really care what the gm says. if the team was good it would be a 2 second deal and everyone would go back to the game at hand. since the team stinks, it will be a week long deal because nobody cares about how jerome williams is going to do tonight.
Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
No lie anyone who posts in this thread could have done a better job than he did over the past 5 seasons.
not anyone
Quote from: MDS on May 26, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: SD on May 26, 2015, 05:56:18 PMYou accept that you're a moron when it comes to baseball or are you in the "he's not talking about ME" category?
im in a very small % of highly educated fans....i know this and i dont really care what the gm says.
Lol
It takes a high baseball IQ to run a team, but it takes a significantly lower baseball IQ to figure out that Amaro can't run a team.
A corpse with a rusty ice-pick sticking out of its ear hole could figure that out.
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 26, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
It takes a high baseball IQ to run a team, but it takes a significantly lower baseball IQ to figure out that Amaro can't run a team.
See Jerome Williams
Nice comeback by bums. 4 in the 8th but Giles melts like a stick of butter on Waikiki Beach in August. Walk, double, men on 2 & 3, no outs.
Mets little bitches this season.
It's all good Rube has a plan
My Plan for the Phillies
By Reuben Amaro Jr.
1. Trade Cliff Lee for Mike Trout or some minor league guy who is super good like that.
1. Trade Cole Hamels for Mike Trout or some minor league guy who is super good like that.
2. Dom Brown -- this is his year, baby!!
3. Other teams undervalue old guys... find some experienced 40-something guys to lead us! Late 30s at youngest.
4. When in doubt sign a slap hitting Hispanic no one's ever heard of. He could be the next me!!
5. Finalize list of drugs I can put in other GMs' food to make them more receptive to the Howard contract.
6. When agents and GMs and other scary people start using confusing numbers again, ask Pat what to do! -- VERY IMPORTANT
7. Just go get a whole bunch of really good players. <note to self: fill in details later>
8. If Howard and Utley heat up, DON'T TRADE ANYBODY, we might win W.S. AGAIN !!!!
franco with a big RBI hit and a terrific defensive play
the other 494304 plays in the game mean dick
todays game is extra sickening seeing syndegard....the mets got him and d'arnaud for ra farging dicky and now have THREE young arms at the big league level better than any pitcher/prospect at any level for the phillies (other than heidi) and that doesnt even include zach wheeler
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
todays game is extra sickening seeing syndegard....the mets got him and d'arnaud for ra farging dicky and now have THREE young arms at the big league level better than any pitcher/prospect at any level for the phillies (other than heidi) and that doesnt even include zach wheeler
tommy joseph has a concussion
syndergard is a beast
you dont understand the process. all you fans do is bitch and complain.
It's hard when you have to draft at the end of the first round every year
matt adams out 3-4 months....probably the season
makes a ton of sense to send choke home
here's what they got: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/index.jsp?c_id=stl#list=stl
grichuck is the ML ready one but they have no chance at him for just choke. none of their position players fit, so youre probably looking at a young arm that would be 2-3 years away.
Quote from: MDS on May 27, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
matt adams out 3-4 months....probably the season
makes a ton of sense to send choke home
here's what they got: http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/index.jsp?c_id=stl#list=stl
grichuck is the ML ready one but they have no chance at him for just choke. none of their position players fit, so youre probably looking at a young arm that would be 2-3 years away.
Do it. Eat some salary and get a young arm. I have really enjoyed Howard and what he has done for the franchise but the rebuild has to begin.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/off-mic/&id=305408101
Nothing we haven't all said here but it's refreshing to see a quasi-journalist put it down on the record for once.
not that any of it matters, but they DFA'd sizemore and kept francore and andres farging blanco.
sizemore was playing essentially every day and was even hitting 3rd last week. now hes out of a job. what a dumb organization.
Whatevs.
JP to reading
a good month before i anticipated. hes 20 and he should be up in about a year. hold tight.
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2015, 02:31:28 PM
not that any of it matters, but they DFA'd sizemore and kept francore and andres farging blanco.
sizemore was playing essentially every day and was even hitting 3rd last week. now hes out of a job. what a dumb organization.
Ashe was also brought back up. Apparently he's going to be the new left fielder.
it doesnt matter who its for....theres such a disconnect in reality in this organization. asche stinks anyway.
who has a better "plan"
hinkie magic or raj
thats not even a fair question
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
who has a better "plan"
hinkie magic or raj
Hinkie by default, because RAJ has no plan.
https://youtu.be/WdNsltQXTVU
Swept at home to that POS known as the Rockies with one of the worst staffs in the NL. These numbnuts muster up 4 farging runs, one of which was unearned, in the series. Special.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 01, 2015, 04:23:09 AM
Swept at home to that POS known as the Rockies with one of the worst staffs in the NL. These numbnuts muster up 4 farging runs, one of which was unearned, in the series. Special.
80?
this is great....from the inky today
Of course, Amaro is also the same guy who thinks teams tend to "over-covet" prospects, and has called prospect ranks "a bunch of crap" (I suspect mostly because the Phillies appear near the bottom of the list).
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on May 19, 2015, 11:20:48 PM
motherfarging Maikel Francoooooooooooooooooooo
throwing him a first pitch heater is a gift
legooooooooooooo
is that .194 maikel franco?
cant throw that dude a first pitch heater
Oh look at lil guy trying to be funny....except he was bowing at the Franco alter while back
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 11, 2015, 08:03:35 PM
Utley is awful at the plate right now
That pitch he swung and missed on was a hanging spinner and he missed
i cant copy the "80 wins, pal" post every time. gotta change it up, you know
Franco.
?-crawford-?-?-franco-?-?-?
Middle in fastballs probably need to stay clear of Franco's bat. For their own sake.
turning point of the season.
Nice to see Harang's stock plummet. He looks like dog shtein tonight. Some great defense has kept this from really getting ugly.
He was due for a bad outing but yeah they should sell high
nobodys stock rises or falls based on 1 outing you fossil
theres nothing to sell high...its june 4....theres no market for anyone, specifically bottom of the rotation geezers like aaron harang
Let's be honest he ain't pitching better than he did up to this point so there's nowhere to go but down. Stark said a lot of teams have interest.
teams have interest but nobody is pulling the trigger yet....its june 4....hes aaron harang. 2 good months isnt convicing anyone otherwise. stop obsessing over this worthless trade of a worthless player.
Ok rube
The internet GM said no markets exist in June!
I told him he was wrong too...but him admitting it is not happening. Teams definitely wouldn't trade for him if the GM drummed up a faux market...you know...but nevermind teams just wait until July 28th to begin talks!
Diekman sent down
name me the last time a low-end SP was started in late may/early june
teams arent sure if theyre in or out....if they need pitching or not....theres 45 games between now and the week before the deadline. nobody knows shtein yet. youre literally making things up because you hate roob.
Quote from: MDS on June 04, 2015, 10:20:14 PM
name me the last time a low-end SP was started in late may/early june
how bout yesterday asshat ? BOOM.
Aaron Harang is 6'7
Never knew this
freddie g on a sweet 0-29 clip
holy shtein baumgarner threw 98 pitches and 78 were strikes
if milwaukee can pull out a win today and the phillies lose then phils move into a tie for worst record in baseball
Quote from: Rome on June 04, 2015, 08:07:02 AM
Middle in fastballs probably need to stay clear of Franco's bat. For their own sake.
They ain't listening.
That shot to dead center was a rocket.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 07, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
if milwaukee can pull out a win today and the phillies lose then phils move into a tie for worst record in baseball
0-for-2 today, igy.
oh well....a man can dream
cody asche has 6 rbis
its june 7
franco has six hr
jp crawford games - 9
jp crawford walks - 8
when does the jp crawford/franco combo start making mlb power moves
2018?
crawford will be up by sept 2016....its 2017 if hes a ROY type player, 2018 if not
obviously the bigs are different level but hes adapted to AA like its nothing. franco is someone who struggled at first when he got to a new level.
2018 will be francos third full season and crawfords second....cant see them making real moves in the league as a duo before that
it depends who the gm is
godforbid if its still roob i see him getting desperate in 17. if they bring in someone new they will be hinkie magic patient and might wait until 19 or 20.
its way far out but carlos gomez is a 17 FA and alex cobb is an 18 FA. after 16 phillies have more money than god.
pipe dream but hopefully they will be sold by then or at worst JSM has full control
they arent being sold....either middleton takes control or things stay in the shady way they are now
the good thing is something has to give. that fossil gillick is done after this year and roob's contract is up.
i want comcast to buy them so bad
i just want them to hire a president from the outside....who will then hire a gm from the outside and get rid of all the old farts in the scouting department and in the front office like charlie, dallas green, gillick
yeah thats goes without saying and by definition new ownership will accomplish that....but comcast would put them on a level with the big boys...of course you still gotta hire the right people to steer the ship but it would be a good starting point to have roberts coin behind them...and its a philly company
the current owners arent afraid to spend money...i dont get why that narrative still exists
spending is not an issue for this team. spending smartly certainly is.
not sure where in my post i said they dont spend money....you are trying to hit 2006 talking points
what im saying is spending money is one thing....having yankees red sox money is another
i dont understand your point.
whats the difference between being really rich and spending 200 mil and being incredibly rich and spending 200 mil?
a lot....when you are big boy rich you can make mistakes and eat them....you also can spend even when you dont have attendance to back it up...you also can eat luxury tax
yea i just dont see how its a big deal
trust me its significant....and i didnt even mention the investment in your scouting system...especially internationally
phils drafted some black dude from georgia named cornelius
IN
Quote from: MDS on June 08, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
phils drafted some black dude from georgia named cornelius
IN
SS Cornelius Randolph from Griffin HS
Third baseman of the future, you heard it here. Oh, and T Mac said so.
LF they said a little bit ago
Hope this kid can hit. farging shtein show loads the bases and el zilch-O. What a sloppy mess.
Hamels lost to the Reds
He was distracted by the U.S. Women's World Cup match. Give the guy a break, bro.
love how they specifically said corny is playing lf...not corner of....not "we'll see".....not "somewhere in the infield"
the exact position they moved asche to a month ago. that 280 obp aint holding up?
Ke'Bryan Hayes, son of Charlie, went with pick #32 to Pittsburgh.
Phils pick Arizona 2B Scott Kingery at #48 in the 2nd round.
Future starts now
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round. The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.
Smuggest guys in the room.
you don't understand the process.
two words: anthony hewitt
Quote from: Rome on June 09, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round. The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.
Smuggest guys in the room.
thats one piece of information....others had him as the highest ranked HS bat
its a high risk/high reward move. most draft picks dont pan out anyway, HS kids less so. the other option was to take a nola-type college pitcher that could project in a mid rotation starter. they went with the high upside player that could project into a middle of the order bat, but will probably wind up being larry greene.
if either him or jhaylin ortiz hit then they've done it right.
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports. Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
two words: anthony hewitt
Exactly what I thought when they were talking about him
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports. Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.
he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director
the scapegoated marty wolevor picked JP and Nola with his last 2 firsts, and he was the idiot that pushed all those high-upside athletes that all failed. your first point was right....the whole thing is a crapshoot.
at least they'll be picking in the top 2 or 3 next year.
they better farging be picking at one next year
guaranteed its going to be the worst draft of the last 25 years
so many brutal draft picks. yeah, it's crapshoot, i get that. ,funny though how certain teams seem to keep hittting while the phils' picks flop.
Quote from: smeags on June 09, 2015, 01:32:41 PM
so many brutal draft picks. yeah, it's crapshoot, i get that. ,funny though how certain teams seem to keep hittting while the phils' picks flop.
they were flopping because of the approach. the phillies were taking athletes first and baseball players second. its a high risk/high reward way of doing things. last year they took almost all college players, which was a kneejerk reaction to the previous failures. this year they are simply going "best bat available."
corny is a pure ballplayer. whether he can hit or not is anyone's guess but he's not the same type of player they went after when they drafted hewitt and greene.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2015, 12:39:12 PM
guaranteed its going to be the worst draft of the last 25 years
was just reading that apparently this is not the case and the top of the draft next year is loaded with upwards of 3-5 potentially elite prospects
thats good. now hopefully they go on another nice long losing streak.
Was listening to Stark a few weeks ago he said this is considered a bad draft but next years is shaping up nice so who knows
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports. Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.
I just wish the draft had more rounds. 900 isn't enough.
Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: Rome on June 09, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
So Randolph was projected to go between 20 & 30 in the first round. The Phillies took him 10th and plan to move him from SS to the outfield.
Smuggest guys in the room.
thats one piece of information....others had him as the highest ranked HS bat
its a high risk/high reward move. most draft picks dont pan out anyway, HS kids less so. the other option was to take a nola-type college pitcher that could project in a mid rotation starter. they went with the high upside player that could project into a middle of the order bat, but will probably wind up being larry greene.
if either him or jhaylin ortiz hit then they've done it right.
I read the same thing about his bat. Highly rated out of high school. High school picks always scare me. Yes the kid is an athlete but so is Dom Brown.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 09, 2015, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 09, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Baseball drafts are much more of a crapshoot than the other sports. Of course, I have no faith in RAJ anyway.
I just wish the draft had more rounds. 900 isn't enough.
hahaha legit.
Only 40 rounds this year.
And, yeah... Amaro has nothing to do with the draft...
Phils draft Andrew Amaro (for the 2nd time) in the 35th round. (http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/700-level/now-ruben-amaro-jr-drafting-family-members-again)
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.
Drafted TMac and Morandidni's kids too
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.
Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director
pretty sure almarez and his scouts told roob about cornelius....not sure they yelled across the war room "yo roob theres this kid we drafted a couple years ago that we think is worth another shot" when amaro was still on the board
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:22 PM
Drafted TMac and Morandidni's kids too
also the LV managers son
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
hes the first gm to ever draft a family member. oh mi god.
Quote from: MDS on June 09, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
he had nothing to do with the pick....it was johnny almaraz, the scouting director
are you trolling.....i know you are smarter than this
jonathan villar sent back down a few days ago
he has 0 future in houston with correa and altuve at middle infield. hes been underwhelming in the bigs, but is just 24 and hasnt had an enormous amount of at bats. i cant imagine his price tag is enormous. they have at least a season and a half of meaningless games coming up (err...80, j) where he can play at 2b/ss. does this make too much sense?
Ruff down Brown up
Phillies pitchers pitch two 9-inning shutouts in the series, and get swept.
Beautiful lineup you got there, Rube.
they dont have 1 major leaguer that isnt a pitcher
Franco but that may be it.
he might be one but you cant say for sure yet....im hopeful though
their OF logjam is hysterical. not enough at bats to go around for revere, brown, herrera, francore, ruf, asche and bogusevic! so much talent, so little space.
Jerome Williams with the Gabby Douglas split. Ouch! 2/3 of an inning, 4 hits, 4 runs, 2 wild pitches in a row. he needs to find a new line of work.
Sorry, 6 runs in 2/3.
Williams' injury looked almost as painful as his pitching.
dont worry guys, chad billingsly is making a rehab start tonight and should be in line to take his place
This might be the worst stretch of Phillies baseball I've ever not watched.
Any chance Nola comes up to replace him?
Can't imagine them starting his FA clock.
They should bring Biddle up so we have something more to laugh at
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 08:33:14 PM
This might be the worst stretch of Phillies baseball I've ever not watched.
LMFAO!
I just checked the score.
LOL
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 16, 2015, 08:57:57 PM
Can't imagine them starting his FA clock.
hell be up later in the year....i cant see them doing it until he has a good month or so in AAA. theyll run dustin mcgowan out there if they have to.
Giving up 1 hit in 2 innings of work (I'll ignore the walks)... Jeff Francoeur was their best pitcher tonight.
Best part was one of Ben Davis' keys to the game was Williams "going deep" in the game. Then Williams blows up for six runs... and then his groin blows up.
The Orioles went deep... 8 times.
id say a teams starting pitcher throwing a lot of innings is a key to every game ever played
Gritly getting fired up
https://twitter.com/mat1419/status/610999402614927360
The defeat sealed the Phillies' first winless road trip of at least eight games since an 0-9 run in August 1883, their inaugural season.
Fire Amaro and Sandberg
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 16, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
The Orioles went deep... 8 times.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/gashousegorillas.gif)
(http://media.philly.com/images/PHLN18S2.JPG)
"Son. you're farged"
don't worry everyone, ruben announced that cliff lee will be able to start throwing a baseball again in a month.
aumont starting tomorrow because hamels a hamstring thing
80?
Phillies starters are 0-14 with 5.89 ERA since May 24. No other rotation has fewer than 5 wins in that span.
jerome williams
aaron harang
kevin correa
sean o'sullivan
phillippe aumont
adam morgan
this phillies starters since hamels last pitched
stark put out a ten names to watch at the deadline list...two phils heidi and paps made it
his predictions for them was heidi to the Rangers minutes before the deadline and paps to Toronto before July 4
can i get my meatcicle hard about schwarber please
To the surprise of no one but Amaro Aumont has been confirmed zesty
DFA'd
pretty sure roob knew
its a bad team and a bad organization that needed a spot start and all they had was a bad pitcher.
another brutal weekend for the backend of the jays bullpen, specifically cecil
daniel norris. hi.
I say Maikel you say Franco
I say eight you say oh
I say farg you say off!
http://www.khou.com/story/sports/2015/06/22/source-phillies-hamels-would-block-trade-to-astros/29139973/
thats bs....hes just trying to force a trade to somewhere he wants to go
if its the astros or the phillies, hell take the astros
Yeah why the farg would he block a trade there. They're like this year's 07 Phillies...on the brink.
Every single one of us (minus Phreak) would nix a relocation to Houston if we had the choice. Why would you ever expect Cole Hamels to want to move/live/work in that god awful place?
what, you don't think inbred texas would be a good fit for cali cool ?
To be fair to Jay he's from Phoenixville, so it's not like Houston is a step down.
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.
Hahaha Phoenixville has actually turned yuppie and hipster.
And Houston has some nice areas. He's rich enough to hire a driver so he doesn't have to farg with this insane traffic.
the 2 names bandied about for the rangers/hamels deal were alonso and mazara.
if that happens, i will personally mutilate roob.
Do it.
Havas will come visit you in prison and I will send money to your commissary account
Quote from: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.
Have you ever seen Coatesville?
phils had a high level scout looking at chi chi gonzalez tonight
hes aaron nola but with worse control, but still well above average overall (nola doesnt walk ANYONE).....low k's....low 90s....pitches to contact....strong breaking stuff....projects as a mid rotation guy.
They're really really awful but Franco has been fun to watch. Maybe he and Crawford are very dim cracks of light for the future.
Jesus Christ! Franco!
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.
Quote from: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.
I told my wife yesterday that the Phils could lose the rest of their games this year and I wouldn't care if they swept the Yankees.
Hamels vs. Nova today. Who in the hell is Nova?
C'mon Heidi, make one of your last games as a Bum your best. Pitch like you should have in October 2009 you little bitch.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 24, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on June 24, 2015, 12:06:59 AM
I know they suck serious ass but beating up on these cockfaces is just outright beautiful.
I told my wife yesterday that the Phils could lose the rest of their games this year and I wouldn't care
you should be rooting for them to lose the rest of their games (even the Yankees)
They'll lose a minimum of 6 out of 10 the rest of the way but beating the Yankees in New York is glorious. farg those iceholes.
I clicked on Philly.com this morning to check the box score and thought they had forgot to update the front page. Saw the score, saw the Franco five RBI detail and just chuckled. Dude is on fire right now. Let's hope he's not Dom Brown Part Deux.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 23, 2015, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: smeags on June 23, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
true statement, it's the kensington of chester county.
Have you ever seen Coatesville?
yes, it's west camden.
Quote from: Rome on June 24, 2015, 06:56:04 AM
Saw the score, saw the Franco five RBI detail and just chuckled. Dude is on fire right now. Let's hope he's not Dom Brown Part Deux.
what, a guy that got an attitude after a two month run in anotherwise bust career ?
utley to the DL with a phantom injury.
thank god.
someone needs to cut his foot off so that his option doesnt vest
Way to not close out the sweep, Cole!
Woohoo!!
http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/132634634/sources-phillies-to-hire-andy-macphail
There it is
I'm underwhelmed
hes fine as a president....lets see who hires as a gm. if he keeps roob or hires some old fart by all means destroy the hire. but a gillick/monty type old school baseball man running the team isn't the worst thing. the phillies just need to have someone "in charge" and as "the face" because the ownership group refuses to come into the spotlight.
MEANWHILE:
QuoteAaron Nola for Lehigh tonight: 7 2/3, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
name "phail"
http://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/3a2eo8/who_is_kodeyashi/
mcphail likes this dude
http://yscouts.com/interviews/matt-klentak-assistant-general-manager/
corny randy 3-3 in his gcl debut
clearwater was five games out with five games to play in the fsl and ended up winning the first half title
bye bye ryno
smart man
yep, he keeps giving the PC responses but it comes down to - guys, this team blows, im outta here.
He's not in their long term plans anyway. Now if only his boss would follow him out the door...
going tonight....i think sitting right behind in the dugout
might see an ugly jew on tv as scherzer throws another no no
12 outs away from a perfecto and it's 5-0 Nats. cmon history
fargin Freddy
Damon that's shocking that Sandberg resigned.
was rooting big time for scherez. once he lost it, i went back to your phils
dom brown is garbage....an embarassing human being
chilled with murph for a second. hes a person.
the dugout was dead, if thats any kind of shock. looked like nobody gave a flying farg of a farg. we were parraell to it, right in front of the camera well.
the greenie bag one of the rookie's was carrying was massive. how many farging uppers do they need.
I'd be higher than matty if I had to watch that bullshtein night after night.
I've been on vacation since nine days ago. Haven't watched a single inning of Phillies baseball, even when staying in Philly with family.
It's been bliss.
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good
It farging ruins my summer when they suck. I haven't watched a goddamn game in almost a month
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good
thats how i feel about basketball....find the sixers unwatchable but can still enjoy phils game here and there
sounds like you just like basketball more than baseball
Quote from: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:19:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 26, 2015, 11:43:50 PM
theres nothing worse than your baseball team sucking....not just because the season is so long and there is nothing else on but because the sport isnt nearly good enough to watch if they arent good
thats how i feel about basketball....find the sixers unwatchable but can still enjoy phils game here and there
sounds like you just like basketball more than baseball
well you are super white....so i get that
but in general basketball is better than baseball...most people who dont like basketball can still watch a game that doesnt involve their team....whereas most baseball fans wont even watch their own team if they arent good much less a random game
its 135 and theres just too many bland generalities there for me to deal with right now
when you wake up youll still be amazingly white and love minor league baseball more than nba basketball
I watched women's world cup and the NHL Draft last night instead of these dipshteins.
Rome for the lose.
I don't care if my team sucks...just give me a reason to watch...a young cornerstone player. Franco's nice but he's not what I'm talking about.
Used to rank it - as far as teams closest to winning
Birds
Sixers
Phils/flyers
Especially after the nhl draft last night the Flyers are a solid 3rd while the Phils are way down here
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
I don't care if my team sucks...just give me a reason to watch...a young cornerstone player. Franco's nice but he's not what I'm talking about.
totally agree....its tough for baseball tho because they have so many starting positions and it isnt a sport like football where players can become good in five minutes
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
Birds
Sixers
Phils/flyers
Especially after the nhl draft last night the Flyers are a solid 3rd while the Phils are way down here
i think the nfl team will always be #1 in any city because again its so easy to go from bad to good
id go (with a 1-10 ranking)
eagles - a clear number one because of the the sport they play...need a qb soooooo bad and if they had one they would be a 8 or 9...as is they are a
6.5 flyers - the crop of D prospects is ridiculous....love what hexy is doing...he is basically hinkie magic but is taking guys who will play soon...i think they could be cup contenders in the next 2-4 years....id give them a
5....i think they are 50/50 to become real players in a few years
sixers - the assets are ridiculous but the plan is falling apart to the point of having to start over and they play in a sport that takes forever to win in...2020 is a best case scenario and the odds of failing are huge...
2phillies - they are the sixers without any real assets...a lot of that has to do with baseball...its a sport where arron nola can look amazing in the minors but odds are he ends up being kyle kendrick....cant get excited about most baseball prospects until they actually come up and perform for a couple years...unless you have some trancendant guys and like you said sd even their best hopes arent that exciting...they are PHILLIE top prospects not game changing MLB top prospects....they have a disgraceful ownership situation and a terrible front office....they are going to be bad for a really long time and they are in a sport where hope is not strong....they really need the top pick next year...
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jp is the #2 prospect in baseball
you are calling nola "kendrick" based on absolutely no facts and just pure paranoia....hes projected to be well above that by everyone.
but the other stuff is fairly accurate, so hooray!
five years ago dom brown was a five tool superstar
nola is ahead of his age but has very little upside or talent....could he be greg maddux...sure....but at best if he makes it hes probably a #3 guy
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 27, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
five years ago dom brown was a five tool superstar
nola is ahead of his age but has very little upside or talent....could he be greg maddux...sure....but at best if he makes it hes probably a #3 guy
youre a rankings whore. im a real world guy. i dont care where baseball america had nola. i dont care if his grainy minor league vids show up on baseball tonight. i looked at video, numbers, read reports. dude aint kyle kendrick. but yes, he isnt a kershaw-level guy. OMG!
Quote from: MDS on June 27, 2015, 01:14:43 PM
youre a rankings whore. im a real world guy.
lol....do you just make stuff up as you go along?.......you are all about advanced stats....that is the opposite of real world
and ftr i have no idea where he was ranked...i just know if he even has a successful career it will be as a middle of the rotation guy...at best
Todd is in the small % of fans who knows what he's talking about. Just ask him.
stats are part of every fiber of baseball...they are baseball.
in every other sport they can be misleading. but in baseball, not so much.
Real World Todd all up in this bitch!
Tommy Joseph has been moved to first
hes not a good enough hitter to be anything special at 1b
only question is what was worse:
1. lee trade to seattle
2. pence trades
go phils!
https://vine.co/#/v/eJgrqjXIpnO
Quote from: MDS on June 28, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
hes not a good enough hitter to be anything special at 1b
only question is what was worse:
1. lee trade to seattle
2. pence trades
:boom :boom :boom
im confident amaro will get a king's ransome for hamels. :paranoid
hold on to your dicks, john middleton is going to speak at the mcphail presser today
i believe this is his first public comments about the team in all these years as owner
nobody is going to use mcfail? i thought that one was pretty much given
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail? i thought that one was pretty much given
It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled Mc
PHail
Quote from: SD on June 29, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail? i thought that one was pretty much given
It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled McPHail
yeah it's a perfect name phail for this town.
Quote from: SD on June 29, 2015, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on June 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
nobody is going to use mcfail? i thought that one was pretty much given
It's actually a hell of a lot funnier and ironic that it's spelled McPHail
damn, good point.
my bad everyone
maik maik has 24 rbi this month....pretty damn impressive
J.P. Crawford has reached base 41 straight games. 132 BB, 130 K in minor-league career, .396 OBP
on sportscenter jerry crasnick saying that mcphail will can roob at the end of the season then most likely hire matt klentak who worked for him in baltimore...then let klentak hire his own manager and the two leading guys right now are bud black and ron gardenhire
he did also mention jj picollo as a plan B to klentak
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 29, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
J.P. Crawford has reached base 41 straight games. 132 BB, 130 K in minor-league career, .396 OBP
its minor league stats, but the fact that hes walking more (or even to) his strikeouts is pretty insane.
it's comforting when the guy you just hired as your team president says, "I'm a little surprised that you hired me"
It's also comforting that Middleton said his mandate to win and they won't restrict him financially
most comforting is the embrace of analytics (sorry, sloths) and the fact that they went outside the organization for this position
mcphail is going to hire his own gm, someone who wasnt born at 1 citizens bank way. the 2 of them are going to clean out all of the old trash on the field and in the front office.
Joe BlNton is pitching for the Royals and looks like he lost 100 pounds
Quote"Kendrick has 64 wins. You know how many wins (Milwaukee's Matt) Garza has? Sixty-seven."
old quote from roob i came across. man oh man.
Quote from: MDS on June 30, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Quote"Kendrick has 64 wins. You know how many wins (Milwaukee's Matt) Garza has? Sixty-seven."
old quote from roob i came across. man oh man.
Amarmetrics
Quote from: Dillen on June 29, 2015, 08:27:04 PM
Joe BlNton is pitching for the Royals and looks like he lost 100 pounds
Saw a pic of him in our local paper and he looks like a completely different person.
This team is so farging bad that the highlights tonight are the shots of the Turkey Hill concession serving ice cream in the little Phillies helmets. The toppings look tasty!
Just heard a commercial on mlb.com with Sarge when he was on the Blue Jays broadcast team. Damn I miss that mush mouth.
Choooooooooooooooooooooooooch
Rings hollow...
That was a tough Chooch cheer to get out. Out of practice. His first homer in forever.
(http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/images/Chase-Utley-WAR.focus-none.width-800.png)
you are referencing WAR, nerd. same type of formula as VORP. dork.
anyway, the phillies new gm might be the new gm of the angels right about now.
i looked at nothing but the line until after i posted it...whether its something called war or rbi i dont care......the arc is awesome....pray he doesnt get the at bats this year to vest
phils 27
crew 33
rockies 34
chisox 34
fightins traded for the #1 international signing spot.....this is good
yea it lets them sign jhalyn and that catcher...plus they can still go big the next few years.
zo makes sense of it
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2015/07/05/trade-phillies-add-cash-for-international-signings/
Papelbon is an All Star.
I guess someone had to be.
Now trade him before the game.
Quote from: Rome on July 06, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Papelbon is an All Star.
I guess someone had to be.
hes had a great season....the phillies suck of course, but the dudes been great
im thinking hamels will make it as an injury replacement
Listening to Vin tonight.
O'Sullivan (LV) and Correia (DFA) are outta here
Quote from: Don Ho on July 08, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 06, 2015, 11:13:16 PM
Listening to Vin tonight.
Same here. He is poetry.
I've done it for all three LA games. I may just not listen to T-Mac any more this year. All the other announcers the rest of the way.
9 earned runs off Hamels. Trade value is soaring.
I tried last night but I just can't watch that slop anymore.
I turned it off during the 4th inning implosion. Just not worth the time.
I pretty much didn't watch a game in June
Watched every July game until last night when Pence's grand slam cleared the wall.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 12:25:44 PM
I pretty much didn't watch a game in June
Watched every July game until last night when Pence's grand slam cleared the wall.
That was about when I turned my TV off. Not worth losing sleep over.
Yeah this is the worst I have seen them since 1997-1998.
Franco has hit a skid and I am interested to see if he adjusts to the adjustments made against him. That is about the only thing worth watching right now.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 11, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Yeah this is the worst I have seen them since 1997-1998.
I think this team is even worse.
The Phillies have been terrible most of my life. I'm mentally conditioned to think of them as a loser team and that any period of winning is a temporary aberration. And yet, this current team is still more disgusting than anything I remember. The only consolation to this vile play is that the long-awaited explosion of the front office appears to be imminent.
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was at the pub tonight with oh's nats on every tv cept the one we were watching...which was espn and zach eflin getting lit the farg up in the pan am games
if its any consolation, tom windle has been good out of the pen since they moved him there
For anyone keeping track, 51-20 after the break would get them to 80 wins.
Jerome Williams is coming back so they have a shot!
their second half will be better than you think
Get home from errands:
1. >Click<
2. Barbara Billingsley gives up a 3-run-homer
3. >Click<
so 22 wins instead of 20?
franchise worst is 111 loses. they could break that.
From James Michener:
Garland them with timeless lilies!
Although they are a bunch of dillies
Who give honest men the willies-
We still love them for their sillies-
Hail, The Phillies.
Yo Havas check your boy lil guy...he's arguing with me that I don't hate Amaro and that I wasn't against his hiring. Set him straight for me!
Papelbon is now publicly demanding a trade. Can't understand why the Phillies haven't found a trading partner for him. He's been such a colossal dickface, I'd purposely make him play out the deal now. farg that bitch.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
Yo Havas check your boy lil guy...he's arguing with me that I don't hate Amaro and that I wasn't against his hiring. Set him straight for me!
I honestly cant remember what you said about his hiring but you definitely have hated him for a long while
i dont care about that....he only "hates" roob because hes smug
j never questioned anything he ever did. its all a show.
You're grasping at straws that don't even exist
Amaro is the worst and I never wanted him hired.
Ill hang up and listen, Chief
you cant even give me 3 things you didnt like that he did...you hating just to hate
fraud with a capital h for houston j!
Trading Lee
Papelbon
Not getting enough in return for people who he has traded
I mean how could you possibly think I've ever supported him. Has he made some good moves yeah but that doesn't mean I like him or wanted him hired.
You're like foxnews...ignore the truth for your agenda!
you were not against papelbon....theres no way
Go dig it up, sunshine.
you had them winning the world series last year and winning 80 games this year....theres nothing to look up
The fun begins here....zero support from me on Papelbon
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=21319.375
any other hot takezzzz from you, Tijuana Todd?
you hated the move so much you had them winning the world series that year and each of the next 2 years
welcome to being a fan...something you quite haven't grasped.
Keep on keepin on, salty
so on 1 hand amaro is the worst....but on the other hand the phillies are my favoriest most bestest team and theyre going to win!
Amaro has made so many idiotic moves, it really is pointless to select them individually. He should have been fired after 2012, but the impotent clueless fargs who own the team refused to "let a good thing" go. Bums in seats were more important than re-tooling a roster that was teetering on the edge of oblivion. Hell, Boston did it. The Cardinals do it every farging year. But not the Phillies because they suck and always will. farg this team.
Papelbon has been playing really well, and he actively and loudly wants out. He's a piece of shtein, but he's one of the only movable genuine assets on the team.
In retrospect, that signing might actually have been the best thing Amaro would have realistically done with that money.
Supposedly Jayson Stark is now saying that there is "less than a 50/50 chance" that Hamels is traded.
1. I am glad Papsmear didn't get into the game last night. Hopefully he will whine about it.
2. Not too shocking on Hamels and I think what that means is for the deadline. They will probably deal him in the off-season when the new regime is in place.
My biggest fear is that Hamels is going to come down with some arm injury that will torpedo his value.
Then again, with Amaro in charge of the trade, that may not matter anyways.
injury isn't s big factor if they trade him this offseason....I mean unless you are scared he's gonna get hurt in the two months from the deadline to the end of the season
just in general his value automatically takes a big hit after this deadline...injury or not
in fact if they don't trade him this month j hope he gets hurt or run over by a bus...it's just what this pos organization would deserve
his value is especially high now because of the strong FA class next year...every team that wants an arm will be able to get one. even a guy like james shields will be available.
so if he doesnt go now, theyre better off holding off until the 2016 deadline. by then the hamels-nola 1-2 punch will be in full effect so they might not even choose to do it.
Barry Larkin: Jimmy Rollins "absolutely" a hall of famer. (http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/barry-larkin-jimmy-rollins-absolutely-hall-famer)
nola time tuesday
Eric Kratz signed a minor league deal with Bums. Go Team Go!
Papsmear getting booed tonight was beautiful. Colossal douche.
phillies 31
fish 38
rocktober 39
brew crew 40
Heidi with two stellar outings in his last two starts
Frenchie loves him some Marlins...
busta buss just tweeted that there are questions all over baseball about heidis health
just wonderful
GMs leaking false info to drive the market down
Heard the same thing about Cueto today too
not when out of nowhere where you absolutely implode like heidi has...shtein last night I was even saying to my boy I wonder if the little bitch is hurt...after today i don't know how anyone wouldn't have some level of concern
Hmmm... I wonder where I heard that before?
going to see jp crawford tuesday and wednesday
anyone know how to find probables for minor league teams
hamels isnt hurt....unless you consider his Hoyda to be part of his body. hes just mentally weak. same as it ever was. if he gets traded to a place he wants to go, im sure hell pitch fine.
Nola gave up a leadoff double then made the next three look like chumps. All they need is 23 more players with his sort of talent and they've really got something.
aaron nola pitched well but since 1 stupid fluky thing happened and the phillies scored 0 runs, he got the loss so he sucks
getting the win wouldve been better
That lineup last night was disgusting. No more so than usual, but really... good luck with that slop for the next 3 years, kid.
waaaaaah
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/rays-tales-2008-memories-of-philadelphia/2237867
Jesus. So much butthurt.
I like how, no matter which sport is written about, when discussing the fans everyone mentions how inhospitable Philly fans are. Every article mentions things thrown at the buses or the people shooting the finger at the players on the bus.
This ain't STL or Kansas City - no welcoming parties for visitors.
farg Tampa.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 22, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
Every article mentions things thrown at the buses or the people shooting the finger at the players on the bus.
:paranoid
LOL...please just fold the team
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13301497/jonathan-papelbon-wishes-not-traded-philadelphia-phillies
astros get kazmir, a huge gut punch to j's orbit of houston and philly. astros were never really a realistic spot for hamels anyway. he didnt want to go there.
tick tock gillick
Heidi is about to throw a no-no is his last appearance as a Phillie.
Perfect.
Cole farging Hamels
and Herrera....holy shtein
Literally shaking my farging head right now.
Crazy that Stark was saying this was going to be the biggest start of Hamels' career for the team, even including the WS, and he goes out and throws a no-no.
I'm officially done calling this guy a Hoyda. Thanks for 2008 and thanks for today, Hamels.
Don't farg this up, Rube.
+1. Awesome cole
if this gets them urias or seager or schwarber, etc. then i will lick his dick
otherwise, cool shtein boss. what a way to go out.
So what's this for Chooch, no-hitter number 4?
Adderall: don't try to call a game without it.
So wait I thought Hamels was hurt?
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 25, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
I'm officially done calling this guy a Hoyda. Thanks for 2008 and thanks for today, Hamels.
Yep.
All I could think about was a 94 degree day at Wrigley and Doc Halladay red as a tomato, melting like a candle on the sun. Hamels sucked it up in that god awful heat and did his shtein.
Quote from: MDS on July 25, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
if this gets them urias or seager or schwarber
is this a joke?
seager sucks btw
the consensus best prospect in baseball sucks
well you heard it. noted baseball expert and scout and all around intelligent human being, a message board poster named "ice grillin you," has spoken, so therefore factual information has been revealed.
lol I was drunk and was thinking kyle seager
still im pretty sure Corey seager will not be good
kyle seager is actually pretty good, too. hes 9th among 3B in OPS and 6th in WAR. hitting .274 and on pace to hit 20+ homers. hes not mike trout, but hes a good player.
i have no idea if his brother is going to be good or not, you never know in baseball, but the consensus best prospect is the consensus best prospect. please stick to summer league hoops.
he's ok but he's not a prospect which is why I flipped out at the notion of getting him for Heidi
when i said urias did you think i meant juan uribe?
anyway the national reporters are now saying texas is in the lead. i doubt theyd get gallo back, so it probably be their catcher and chi chi to start.
roughned
I just can't wait to find out how Amaro fargs this up.
I wouldn't trust Amaro to pump gas into my car. The first thing McFail should have done was to fire his ass. The fact that he didn't or didn't have the power to can him says all that needs to be said about the Phillies. We're back to having to wait a decade or more for them to contend again. That's fine. 2008 wasn't that long ago. I guess I'll have to be content with that until I'm eligible for medicare (15 years to go).
amaro isnt making any decisions
its gillick
Quote from: Rome on July 26, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
I wouldn't trust Amaro to pump gas into my car. The first thing McFail should have done was to fire his ass. The fact that he didn't or didn't have the power to can him says all that needs to be said about the Phillies. We're back to having to wait a decade or more for them to contend again. That's fine. 2008 wasn't that long ago. I guess I'll have to be content with that until I'm eligible for medicare (15 years to go).
I figure at the Phils' rate of success, I'll be retired by the time they win another championship.
At the Eagles' rate of success, I'll be dead.
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2015, 11:05:50 AMthe national reporters are now saying texas is in the lead. i doubt theyd get gallo back, so it probably be their catcher and chi chi to start.
I think Nomar Mazara has to be part of any package coming back
What the hell is going on out there?!
Asche and his xbh's and now a HOF double?!
Jesus now a HOF TRIPLE?!
nola bitch
I was at the movies for his opener but watched every pitch today and I can't tell if he's Greg Maddox or Jason hammel....the movement on his pitches is sick but his stuff isn't good...that doesn't make sense
that doesnt make any sense
He's not Randy Johnson but he's not Randy Jackson either.
IGYism
He has good movement and good location. He's 22.
End of story.
If by end of story you mean let's argue incessantly over nothing for 20 pages, then end of story it is.
Quote from: MDS on July 26, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
amaro isnt making any decisions
its gillick
gotta agree. i dont see a way amaro has any say in anyting at this point.
its not an opinion. its a fact.
gillick has been making the calls for a year now
i agree gillick will be making all the most important decisions leading up to this deadline most likely along with mcphail...with mcpahil in waiting roob on his way out and this being a time that is crucial to the future of the ranchise no way amaro is involved...anything pre mcphail hiring in on roobs resume tho
accordingto the latest from zolecki the giants are now one of the teams right in the mix for heidi
im not sure they have the prospects to get it done. their selling point is taking on the contract, which to me, is unessential. i gotta trust middleton that doesnt care about that.
texas is still in the lead. gotta come away with (1 of) mazara, gallo or odor. add that in with alfaro and its not a horrible pull.
Pap to the Nats is picking up steam again
Perfect landing spot for a turd.
reaction from our resident nats fan on that news ?
Sounds like they're giving up a pitcher from Harrisburg in return. Obviously won't be Giolito
nats deal is basically done, it seems
gotta think its voth.
Havas gonna be pissed!
prospect is a pos but they were never getting anything for paplebon....it's always been about getting rid of him
Getting rid of him and his mouth is far more important than getting anything in return. Its too bad Washington is the landing spot because, well, we'll have to see and hear him more than we would if he was sent to farging Seattle, but still... good riddance, icehole.
the guy they got back is a longshot to be a ML pitcher...if everything works out hes an average, nondescript starter.
about what you could expect for papelbon. fun part here is rooting against the nats in the playoffs, even more ammo now.
Paps + Harper = Igy + Todd
Phils back to bein' the Phils.
Nice start by Giles. It's like Paps never left. Work it to 3-2 and put the leadoff man on.
80!
nice to see them playing well but they really need that 1
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 10:05:36 PM
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?
they are the worst team in baseball....but im supposed to be just 80ing and shtein
just read papelbon is the all time phillies saves leader? that blows my mind.
my steve bedrosian starting lineup figure is probably worth nothing.
:-D
Quote from: phattymatty on July 29, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
just read papelbon is the all time phillies saves leader? that blows my mind.
my steve bedrosian starting lineup figure is probably worth nothing.
Trade you my Scott Rolen?
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 12:17:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 28, 2015, 10:05:36 PM
Mds with a compliment? Wtf is going on around here?
they are the worst team in baseball....but im supposed to be just 80ing and shtein
atta boy...back into your Marcus Hayes mode
Hayes wrote an all-time hatchet piece on Ryno the other day
So bitter and pissed off that their industry is crumbling to pieces.
😥
so if i can infer from tweets....sorry rome....the astros have a decent offer on the table, but hamels does not want to go there.
the question will be come friday: does he accept the astros trade or stay on the POS team?
How about instead of reading baseless rumors on Twitter, you make a few phone calls to people inside the organizations that * may * have an interest in him?
Too much?
The Astros fans here want him bad...
Gotta get McCullers in return no?
Roob's on it:
(http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/134/134-307Fr.jpg)
rangers deal "close"
gallo!
Trade Papsmear - check
Trade Cole Hamels - close
Shoot Jerome Williams - closer than you think
all the beat guys got the same text from, probably, roob.
im hoping for 2 of: chi chi, gallo, mazara, alfaro and odor. bracing for 1, expecting 0.
Salisbury said he doesn't think Gallo or Mazara but yes on Alfaro
@JSalisburyCSN: Pitcher Jerad Eickhoff pulled from Rangers Triple A game. Could be coming to Phillies in Hamels deal
"a catcher with serious ankle injuries"
how my rangers fan buddy described alfaro. cool.
eickhoff is garbage...alfaro is maybe an ok catcher....id rather just hold on to him
I have a feeling the Phillies are gonna get raped
Nick Williams taken outta Frisco's game
Rangers beat writer
@Sullivan_Ranger: Jerad Eickhoff and C Jorge Alfaro are in deal from Texas
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
"a catcher with serious ankle injuries"
how my rangers fan buddy described alfaro. cool.
Just great. shtein show continues
nick williams is the big part of the deal.
http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=608384#/career/R/hitting/2015/ALL
hes black!
@jonmorosi: To recap: #Rangers to acquire Cole Hamels for OF Nick Williams, C Jorge Alfaro, RHP Jerad Eickhoff, and at least 1 more player. @FOXSports
@ToddZolecki: Sources: RHP Alec Asher is also in the Hamels deal. Can confirm OF Nick Williams is in the trade, too.
lol diekman in the deal
see ya
No Chi Chi
But the Phils are sending cash money too
Jorge Alfaro, C: Just turned 22 this month, right-handed hitter with plus power potential but issues with plate discipline and consistency, hitting .253/.314/.432 in Double-A, currently on disabled list with significant ankle injury and may miss the rest of the season. Excellent defensive tools but still an unrefined player. Injury clouds value but would still be a trade target if medicals are OK.
Alec Asher, RHP: Age 23, 4.14 ERA with 68/30 K/BB in 78 innings between Double-A and Triple-A this year, originally a fourth round pick in 2012 from junior college in Florida, solid fastball but secondary pitches are average, has a shot at being a fourth starter or perhaps a more dominant reliever.
Nick Williams, OF: Age 21, second round pick in 2012 from a Texas high school, lefty hitter with good tools and greatly improved strike zone judgment, hitting .294/.357/.457 in Double-A this year. Has made a lot of progress refining his hitting skills over the last six months, projects as a regular.
Jerad Eickhoff, RHP: poop
williams is the only piece i like
alfaro has positional value, thats it. he seems like a marginal improvement over knapp.
the 2 pitchers are total trash.
fwiw rosenthal said theres more players involved, but im sure none of them are good.
matt harrison is in the deal
matt harrison has made 2, 4, and 3 starts the past 3 seasons.
Matt Harrison?! For what? Why?
Williams and Alfaro are good pieces. I thought thePhils would have got more, but it could have been worse. It's like a C+
harrson is owed 13 mil in 16 and 17
what the farg...the only way this makes sense is if theyre taking on all of hamels' contract and its a salary dump
Did the Phils unload Rube in this trade too?
If they're taking Harrsion AND giving money and not getting Mazara or Gallo, which we know they aren't, it reeks.
@Evan_P_Grant: FInal deal and its a doozy: Matt Harrison, Alec Asher, Jerad Eickhoff, Nick Williams, Jorge Alfaro & Jake Thompson for Hamels+Diekman+Cash.
There it is
basically they couldnt get mazara or gallo so they settled for every other AA/AAA player with a slim chance of becoming a ML player. and also matt harrison.
i wouldve just held on to hamels. eat 2016 and spend some cash in 2017, try to win. but for a boob like roobin and a fossil like gillick, this is what you get.
oh wait jake thompson, their top pitching prospect. now were talking.
Best part of the deal was Diekman.
So apparently Jake Thompson is the Rangers best pitching prospect?
If you take Gallo out of the list since he's in the majors, the Phils got Texas' #3, #4, #5, #16 and #28 prospects
@BNightengale: The Houston #Astros had put together a strong package #Phillies Cole Hamels, but he exercised his no-trade rights, and ends up w #Rangers.
hamels is a moron....dallas and houston are the same place. except 1 has a good baseball team and the other doesnt.
mid season 2016. maybe.
SP: Nola, Thompson, Morgan, Harrison (?), Kyle Kendrick (probably)
Closer: Ken K
1B: ?
2B: Cesar
SS: JP
3B: Franco
OF: Williams, Herrera, Asche, Altherr
C: Alfaro
there might be enough there to go buy up some FAs in 2017 and try to become competitive again. remember, that year they will have around 150 mil to spend. the big thing theyre gonna need is a frontline pitcher (duh).
I'm basically okay with it, they got multiple guys who might one day be part of a winning Phillie team. Hamels was never going to be again. Did they get a star? No but that was pretty much what we expected. There's going to be some boring-ass baseball for a while.
It's not exciting, but restocking the farm and maybe getting some mediocre guys into spots currently occupied by zesty guys is a start. Meh.
Will be interesting to see how the money shakes out.
It'll be up to the next GM to fix this mess up.
I can't wait to see the latest incarnation of Omar Daal pitch for the Phils.
All 5 minor leaguers are at AAA and AA btw.....no Lakewood or Clearwater filler here
the farm system now is actually in really good shape. it doesnt have an other worldly prospect, like corey seager or kris bryant, but jp is pretty close.
you have a lot of guys with decent chances to 1 day become major leaguers. hit on a few of them, buy up some FAs starting in 17 and we might have something going here. especially when the new gm comes in.
Which one has Tommy John first and will the catcher be the second coming of Lou Marson??
Quote from: MDS on July 29, 2015, 11:06:38 PM
the farm system now is actually in really good shape. it doesnt have an other worldly prospect, like corey seager or kris bryant, but jp is pretty close.
you have a lot of guys with decent chances to 1 day become major leaguers. hit on a few of them, buy up some FAs starting in 17 and we might have something going here. especially when the new gm comes in.
That's how I see it. They are well positioned to become a regular team again instead of an unmitigated disaster with no future. It's up to the next administration to take them to the next step of being competitive. Or to straggle along and turn this into a lost decade, whatever. I think ownership is willing to spend, so a competent front office should be able to get them back to being a playoff caliber team before decade end. Baby steps.
All of these prospects could bomb out and Hamels could be great for another five years, but at some point they had to pull the trigger on a deal like this. Especially since they waited too long to trade Lee.
they are paying some portion of hamels' deal and took on that dreadful harrison contract in order to get back the haul
they havent been cheap for almost a decade now. they arent cheap.
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Phillies sending $9.5M to #Rangers in Hamels deal and assuming Harrison's remaining obligation, which amounts to about $34M.
I've been critical of Heidi over the years but I have to say when I woke up this morning and saw that he'd been dealt, I felt a twinge of regret. 2008 seems so far away right now. Whatever, though. They got a decent return but legit #1 aces are so hard to come by, I have a feeling this is a trade they're (and more importantly we're) going to regret for a long time. Maybe not as much as the Schilling trade, but close.
Quote from: Dillen on July 29, 2015, 10:37:17 PM
Williams and Alfaro are good pieces. I thought thePhils would have got more, but it could have been worse. It's like a C+
basically what jim bowden said but he gave it a B
rangers held onto their top two prospects got a number one starter for the next three years and got paid....gave them an A
Phillies got a couple guys who might make the majors at some point...said alfaro should be a 20 hr catcher
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
I've been critical of Heidi over the years but I have to say when I woke up this morning and saw that he'd been dealt, I felt a twinge of regret. 2008 seems so far away right now. Whatever, though. They got a decent return but legit #1 aces are so hard to come by, I have a feeling this is a trade they're (and more importantly we're) going to regret for a long time. Maybe not as much as the Schilling trade, but close.
they have/had no chance of winning before Heidi is old and declining....there is zero chance they ever regret trading him
the downside here is obviously all on what they got back being garbage...whereas there is 0 percent downside in moving Heidi
The blowback about Hamels was always dumb. Good luck in Texas.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLKLYlUUMAI3JMy.jpg:small)
You don't think they regret trading Sandberg or Rolen or Schilling or Lee or any other of the innumerable trades that they received sacks of magic beans back in return?
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:56:29 AM
You don't think they regret trading Sandberg or Rolen or Schilling or Lee or any other of the innumerable trades that they received sacks of magic beans back in return?
schilling no....basically the same situation as heidi cept schilling wanted out bad...guy in his early 30's on a phillies team that was at least five years away from winning....this was basically the baseball verison of the barkley trade
rolen no....but its not comparable....he wanted out and they were going to lose him for nothing....if he wasnt a little bitch they def would have kept him....plus they went on to win a world series after dealing him...how could you regret getting rid of a bitchmade middle american and winning a ws
sandberg 100% they regret...but again its not comparable to heidi's situation in the least...he was a 21 year old prospect
lee they also def regret...but also not comparable to heidi....they were a world series favorite....you think if they were even in the wild card race right now much less a ws contender that heidi would have been dealt?
theres a difference between looking back and being sickened at the return you got for a particular guy and regretting actually trading the guy away...heidi may fall into the bad return column like lee or schilling but not the sandberg column where you cant believe you traded the guy away
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on July 30, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
The blowback about Hamels was always dumb. Good luck in Texas.
this
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-the-prospects-in-the-hamels-trade/
that article is exactly why baseball is so horrible.
BABIP, FV, 70 raw power. what the farg is any of that.
babip is avg. of balls in play...essentially it eliminates strikeouts and homers because everything else, to a certain extent, is luck
FV i have no idea
70 raw power is scout speak. scouts grade players on a 20-80 scale, for whatever reason. so 70 is a pretty god damn good.
dont pay attention to most of that.....listen to the scouts
except the 70 raw power stuff....these are simple skill set rankings....its just a way of grading a players power speed etc....really no different than grading a football player on his individual attributes....the annoying thing is because they are baseball nerds they cant do a 1-10, 10-100 or even a letter grade...they have to do 20-80 to make themselves seem smarter
the babip future value and all that is worthless
what is most important is what all the scouts say and there is a lot of that in there
http://www.nj.com/phillies/index.ssf/2015/07/phillies_trade_cole_hamels_to_texas_rangers_scouti.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/phillies/Who-did-the-Phillies-acquire-for-Cole-Hamels.html
They got reamed. Just admit it. You'll feel better.
first off, its going to take 3 years to figure out any of that
second, they werent getting urias, schwarber, seager, gallo, etc. teams dont trade those guys anymore.
third, they had to trade hamels. had to. they have 0 chance to win a title for the next 3-4 years and keeping an expensive arm on the wrong side of 30 makes no sense. they got what they could for him and what they got is 5 players that could all wind up being pieces at the ML level. or they could all suck. i dont know, and neither do you.
their farm system now has a bunch of different potential ML options thatll be ready over the next 2 years. this could all come together in 2017 or 2018, or it could not. point is, there is some light and some hope now. there is a foundation brewing. and there is money to spend.
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
first off, its going to take 3 years to figure out any of that
second, they werent getting urias, schwarber, seager, gallo, etc. teams dont trade those guys anymore.
third, they had to trade hamels. had to. they have 0 chance to win a title for the next 3-4 years and keeping an expensive arm on the wrong side of 30 makes no sense. they got what they could for him and what they got is 5 players that could all wind up being pieces at the ML level. or they could all suck. i dont know, and neither do you.
their farm system now has a bunch of different potential ML options thatll be ready over the next 2 years. this could all come together in 2017 or 2018, or it could not. point is, there is some light and some hope now. there is a foundation brewing. and there is money to spend.
Agree with this, I think they got the best offer they could. He's worth less next year because of all the arms that will be on the free agent market. I wish they could have dealt with Houston but oh well.
The catcher if he can stay healthy should be a major league player
You have Franco at 3rd
Crawford at SS
Galvis is fine at 2nd until they find someone better
Maybe Nick Williams turns into a decent major league outfielder
Nola will probably be a 2/3 type starter
Giles is a good closer
So you have some pieces, maybe add some free agents in a few years to solidify the offense. Howard will be off the books by then. So it's a rebuilding plan but at least there's a glimmer of hope
Reamed.
currently they have 65 mil on the books for 2016--14.5 of that is buyouts for utley and lee
25 for howard, 13 for harrison, 8.5 for chooch. 4.6 for MAG. thats it.
in 2017, its down to 24 mil. 10 of which is howard's buyout. the rest is harrison.
in 2018, they have 2 mil on the books. 2 mil. thats just harrison's buyout.
their payroll can easily be around the 150-200 mil range. they are going to be able to go farging nuts, especially on short term contracts that wont hurt them when the nola's, franco's, jp's become arbitration eligible and start making some money in 2019, 2020 area. this is a lot of money to spend!
so when can they put dom brown in the delaware with cement cleats ?
not sure if there will be mutual interest, but jason heyward is a free agent. hes 25.
phils have loads of money to spend...he will likely still be a pretty good player in 2-3 years when theyre really ready (maybe)....possibly frees up corny randy as a trade chip to get a pitcher in a few years. just an idea.
Quote from: smeags on July 30, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
so when can they put dom brown in the delaware with cement cleats ?
LOL!!
Quote from: MDS on July 30, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
not sure if there will be mutual interest, but jason heyward is a free agent. hes 25.
phils have loads of money to spend...he will likely still be a pretty good player in 2-3 years when theyre really ready (maybe)....possibly frees up corny randy as a trade chip to get a pitcher in a few years. just an idea.
lololol at being ready in 2 years
that is legit hilarious
He's right about the money, though. They won't have anyone ready to cash in for half a decade.
They could spend a fortune once the dregs are gone, but I think that would be a huge mistake.
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
He's right about the money, though. They won't have anyone ready to cash in for half a decade.
They could spend a fortune once the dregs are gone, but I think that would be a huge mistake.
1) im right about everything
2) it depends on how they spend it. short term (1-3 year) contracts for whatever sum of money will not be a "huge mistake." now theyre likely not going to get anybody amazing, but they could pick up a few decent pieces here and there that could, combined with the young players, turn this thing around quicker than youd think. i dont mean theyd win the series, id mean you wouldnt have .350 baseball to watch.
heyward is the exception, since hes so young. they could make a long term investment in him, knowing that the first year or two of the deal might not result in anything tangible. you couldnt take that risk on grienke, cueto or justin upton. those FA signings are for teams ready to win right that second.
1. No.
2. Didn't read.
i can always rely on you, friend
I'm at a baseball game. I promise to read it later.
Von Brown finally hit a homer.
Daytona Beach has a minor league baseball team that has won, like, 40 league titles in the last 20 years. They used to be the Cubs high A team and now they're the Reds high A team. This version is farging dull and boring so I'm home.
Good: Dollar beer night.
Bad: Only had three before it started pouring. Again.
I don't know a single player on the team now that the Cubs have moved on and the mascot literally looks like something Stephen King would dream up to scare the farg outta you.
But dollar beers.
The end.
I still hit the Fort Myers Miracle on occasion. Used to do it more often, but life is just busier in general, and even A-level baseball has gotten a bit more expensive, especially when it takes a 45 minute drive to get there.
That's who they were playing tonight.
Fort Myers had guys on 1st and 2nd with none out. They bunted to move them over to 2nd and third. Daytona walked the bases full. Two straight K's later, Daytona gets out of the inning. I swear Brad Pitt in Moneyball was screaming in my farging ears watching that. Talk about loser baseball. I hate that shtein.
Nice job by Giles there to come back strong.
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
Nice job by Giles there to come back strong.
He was throwing gas tonight.
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
That's who they were playing tonight.
Fort Myers had guys on 1st and 2nd with none out. They bunted to move them over to 2nd and third. Daytona walked the bases full. Two straight K's later, Daytona gets out of the inning. I swear Brad Pitt in Moneyball was screaming in my farging ears watching that. Talk about loser baseball. I hate that shtein.
Sounds like Ryne Sandberg ball.
Quote from: Rome on July 30, 2015, 07:29:31 PM
1. No.
2. Didn't read.
I could go find 50 posts where the little guy is telling everyone to settle in because this is gonna take a long time....now they might be ready in two years
you can probably go back and find a few posts that are overly optimistic too...in other words he's totally skitzo on this and is just throwing shtein against a wall to see if it sticks depending on the day...two years is new for even him tho
TBF he's been saying that since they lost in 2009, so really, it will be 8 years in 2 years.
any word on where these guys are going from the hamels trade ? going to see reading play in trenton in a couple weeks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2015, 06:54:59 AMyou can probably go back and find a few posts that are overly optimistic too...in other words he's totally skitzo on this
in a way, maybe
its less throwing shtein against a well and more my opinions changing -- 2 years ago we didnt know what we now know about franco, jp and nola or the guys they got in the hamels trade. i never actually said theyll definitely be good in 2-3 years. i said its a possibility, a scenario based on percentages. and it is.
Quote from: Rome on July 31, 2015, 07:31:31 AM
TBF he's been saying that since they lost in 2009, so really, it will be 8 years in 2 years.
incorrect. i was calm after the losses in 09 and 10. i knew theyd be back. after 11 is when i bailed. and look at that, i was right on it.
yeah, you were the only one who got it right. kudos tiger.
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Quote from: smeags on July 31, 2015, 09:00:51 AM
any word on where these guys are going from the hamels trade ? going to see reading play in trenton in a couple weeks.
not the hamels trade but pivetta starts for reading tomorrow nite
So who else goes today?
Revere?
Francoeur?
Harang?
Choke and $60m?
wont be surprised to hear revere or francoeur's name
Revere to the Jays
2 relief pitchers...both with "live" arms that can throw 95 plus but "need to figure it out"
anything for a guy who sucks is a good thing, i guess. 1 was ranked 9th in toronto's system. so, not a bad return for someone who they were just going to nontender anyway.
If they can throw 95+, there's always a chance.
I guess this means it's Von Brown in RF the rest of the season. :paranoid
Playoffs?
Someone posted this on the PSF board. Gave me a chuckle.
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Sounds like the guys the got for Revere are both power guys with 95+ fastballs
Oh yeah?
Quote from: MDS on July 31, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
2 relief pitchers...both with "live" arms that can throw 95 plus but "need to figure it out"
anything for a guy who sucks is a good thing, i guess. 1 was ranked 9th in toronto's system. so, not a bad return for someone who they were just going to nontender anyway.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 31, 2015, 04:20:26 PM
If they can throw 95+, there's always a chance.
I guess this means it's Von Brown in RF the rest of the season. :paranoid
Si si Pedro
HOF on another one of those HOF type runs
Von Brown goes deep again. Deepest part of the park.
Pat the Bat Night!
The Braves look horrid so far this series.
Hinojosa has some giddyup on his fastball
Get rid of the jersey number tho, vato...awful
your jersey number OCD thing is almost as weird as vuk's wife
almost
I don't deny its weird. But I've been like that since I was a kid.
All these dopes wearing 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s are stupid.
its a jersey number, its of no concern to anything
id rather you finger vuk's wife (after rome is done)
Jersey numbers are serious bidness
Don't you watch Ballers?!
good start stud
Michael Jack, Stairs and T Mac had him as the second coming leading up to that first donger.
five minutes into his career and he can't get lefties out
rare great at bat by choke
GRIT does not make that play
Franco out of control there. Lucky he scored, more like lucky the throw sucked.
Choke has the most RBI in the NL since June 18th
That kid sat right back down like nothing happened after he almost reached over the railing.
speaking of the kid he has settled down real nice
Holy shtein! ODH crushed that thing.
New and improved Choke.
What's their magic number?
80
94 - lik in Hinojosa
Think the Phillies finish better than the Marlins.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on August 01, 2015, 10:44:28 PM
Think the Phillies finish better than the Marlins.
lil guy is hoping for this because you should try and win
i definitely want them to get the 1, but the fact that they are playing well is perhaps a sign that they have some talent on the roster....which means they might turn this around before 2021.
i dont know.
QuoteMaikel Franco: .284/.343/.489 — 31 XBH
Kris Bryant: .245/.353/.437 — 34 XBH
Joc Pederson: .225/.348/.459 — 39 XBH
whats up
two of them have real in the middle of a pennant race at bats
ill let you decide which two that is
they also have 2 months of at bats over franco
ill let you decide who those are
QuoteRyan Howard has more XBH this season than Abreu, Ortiz, Adam Jones, Braun, Pederson, Peralta, Brantley, Encarnacion, Cano, Prince Fielder
August waiver trade plz
His biggest problem is his walks are down this year. His power numbers are back up but his OBP is zesty. If he was sitting around .340 with his OBP I think they'd be able to move him by eating lots of his salary. As is, not so sure.
They're not going to compete for a playoff spot for at least as long as his contract runs. No one is going to give anything in return for him and even if they did get someone to take him off their hands, they'd have to pay almost all of the money left on his deal.
They're stuck with him, end of story.
they also have no other option to play 1B, i think thats the biggest thing (dont say rough)
if there was someone pushing choke out the door, like hernandez is with utley, youd probably see him gone. but since he has no real value on the trade market and you have no real option for even next year, youre basically just stuck with him.
Quote from: MDS on August 02, 2015, 09:56:05 AM
they also have no other option to play 1B, i think thats the biggest thing (dont say rough)
if there was someone pushing choke out the door, like hernandez is with utley, youd probably see him gone. but since he has no real value on the trade market and you have no real option for even next year, youre basically just stuck with him.
What, you don't want to see more of this?
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Amazing standing ovation for Jimmy tonight.
interesting note:
nick williams playing CF tonight, not LF.
Another interesting note
Maik Maik!
be real
you have no idea who nick williams is or why its significant that in his 1st game hes in center
I know exactly who he is - from Galveston btw - and what's it mean for Odouuuuble?
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.
sorry to burst your bubble but they arent winning the world series in 2016
Oh how you've crushed me.
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.
neither do you.
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448
How a team as horrible as this one was in the first half can go 13-3 afterward is beyond me.
Also - the Rollins/Ryno story was a great read.
signifigant change to the team brought some enthusiasm - in particular, ryno leaving.
You have to be their mommies and daddies now. Too many years of everyone gets a trophy upbringings for this generation of athletes.
Expecting grown men to play like professionals on the field and act the same way off of it really is too much to expect.
Quote from: smeags on August 05, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
Quote from: MDS on August 04, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
its positional depth. you have no idea if either guy is even a ML player.
neither do you.
yea, i didnt mean j specifically (though j had galvis in the HOF earlier this year). i meant you as in everyone. apologies, apologies all around.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448
But playoff race ABs?!
Quote from: Rome on August 05, 2015, 12:08:42 PM
You have to be their mommies and daddies now. Too many years of everyone gets a trophy upbringings for this generation of athletes.
Expecting grown men to play like professionals on the field and act the same way off of it really is too much to expect.
i hear you but that didnt seem to be the issue for the phils under sandberg. i just dont think he's a good manager. add that to a bad roster for a hof player to work with ?
its a nice lil run, with some guys that could possibly the future. still the worst team in baseball.
and of course, bacon.
He was a terrible manager. No doubt about it. Doesn't make the overpaid babies any less responsible for their hideous play any more than Mackanin deserves credit for them being 13-3 since the break. Good bosses make the job more enjoyable, though. We all can attest to that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 05, 2015, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 05, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
franco .282/.339/.491
bryant .246/.355/.434
joc .222/.349/.452
gallo .218/.306/.448 duffy .309/.346/.465
But playoff race ABs?!
gallo is in AAA and was in the bigs for like a week before they noticed the giant hole in his swing. duffy wasnt ranked high on some prospect list by a bunch of nerds and his AA highlights werent on baseball tonight so i guess he sucks? college fans are rankings whores.
franco is also protected by odubel herrera and ryan howard, where as the other 3 hit around all-stars and established MLers.
but since the 23 year old dominican is totally aware of what the playoffs are and not just thrilled to be in the bigs and nervous about staying there, his performance should be discounted. and for the record, right now, duffy is the ROY.
franco's play so far has been encouraging. its refreshing seeing someone on the field that has some type of upside instead some of the crap this team has put out there.
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.
time to confuse you more, then: he wasn't canned
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.
Two month bender?
idea:
-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.
who says no.
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
idea:
-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.
who says no.
Pretty sure Jimmy Rollins says no. He'll still think he can start.
Bring Jimmy back!
Oh btw
@ryanlawrence21: In his first two games since joining Reading after Hamels trade, Nick Williams is 5-for-8 with 2 HR, 3 RBI, 4 runs scored, a stolen base.
Quote from: QB Eagles on August 05, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 05, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
i just saw the name pete mackanin for the first time ever this afternoon. had no idea sandberg was canned.
time to confuse you more, then: he wasn't canned
he quit? i realize i could google it but
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 05, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: MDS on August 05, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
idea:
-trade galvis in the offseason for an arm, either a ready to go reliever or a AA/AAA starter. hes a ml-level player who actually could be a good bench bat/mediocre-level starter somewhere.
-sign jimmy for a farewell go-round. he starts until jp is ready, then sits back by mid-summer and fargs around. jimmy rollins day in september where he gets his number retired and jerked off on the field, all that shtein.
who says no.
Pretty sure Jimmy Rollins says no. He'll still think he can start.
yea, im not sure anyone is going to give him a job outright next year. hes also 22/23 among SSs in WAR. cant imagine hed get anything more than a "if you earn it." thats why it makes a ton of sense of the legend to come home for a swan song.
They just rid themselves of Papelbon & Revere and are this close to doing the same with Utley and you want to bring back Rollins?
For farg's sake what is wrong with you? Just let Galvis keep the seat warm for Crawford, or better yet, just bring him up. But God forbid he starts his farging "clock" too early. Can't have that!
jimmy is an all time legend on a level even GRIT cant dream of getting to...DONT YOU fargING EVER AGAIN MENTION SOMEONE LIKE JONTHAN PAPLEBON OR BEN REVERE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS THE g-o-d
jimmy come home baby!!
Quote from: Rome on August 06, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
They just rid themselves of Papelbon & Revere and are this close to doing the same with Utley and you want to bring back Rollins?
For farg's sake what is wrong with you? Just let Galvis keep the seat warm for Crawford, or better yet, just bring him up. But God forbid he starts his farging "clock" too early. Can't have that!
bringing back jimmy on a 1-year deal to end his career would do absolutely nothing negative to them. and like igy said, to compare the legend to those POS' is horrible. you suck.
galvis "keeping the seat warm" accomplishes nothing. so you call up jp when he's ready (it has nothing to do with his clock, though service time threshold is an essential part of the business, im sorry if that's too complicated for you), then galvis sits on the bench? oh great, 2-3 months of freddy galvis. that was important.
its not going to happen, i made the whole thing up. but to me it makes sense.
kevin garnett did it for more than one year and he never won shtein there....then hes gonna move into the organization
sounds good to me
Zzzzzz... Get on with the rebuild and leave the fossils buried where they belong.
that really doesnt make any sense. bringing back jimmy would not impede the rebuild at all, in fact it would help JP to be around the legend. maybe something can wear off on him.
galvis id reckon could net them a bullpen arm or a some organizational pitching depth. with jp 2-3 months in AAA away from being ready, galvis has no actual future here. so why not get something for him, bring back the legend and let him ride off into the sunset? i promise it wont get in the way of you getting shteinfaced at the bar watching ufc.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 06, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
jimmy is an all time legend on a level even GRIT cant dream of getting to...DONT YOU fargING EVER AGAIN MENTION SOMEONE LIKE JONTHAN PAPLEBON OR BEN REVERE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS THE g-o-d
jimmy come home baby!!
Amen.
A five spot against Greinke eh? Sheesh
dom brown with a 3 run jack
its finally happening for him!
phillies raping grienke...ridiculous
... and still losing. :-D
Gee, and I really thought Dave Buchanan was turning the corner.
He sucks every which way but loose.
J, loving your boy #94. He's throwing like he's pissed off. Like it.
Yeah man and they just sent him down - hopefully he gets back in Sept
Nasty stuff
The Phillies put up 6 on Zach Greinke and managed to find a way to lose.
That takes talent, my friends.
6 runs against zach grienke count the same as six runs vs any other pitcher....just sayin
they also count less than 7 runs vs David Buchanan
the phillies swept the cubs a few weeks ago. the cubs are still a lot better than the phillies.
the phillies hit zach grienke a bit. zach grineke is still a really good pitcher.
Greinke gave up the exact same number of earned runs today as he gave up in his last NINE starts combined.
You get to a guy like him like that, you typically expect a win on most days.
Not with David Buchanan pitching.
pretty much
HOF and Choke with homers
McClure tossed for arguing with the ump over his lousy inconsistent zone he gave to Nola
Up 4-3 top 12. All 4 runs on dongs by HOF, Choke, Asche and Rupp.
tied with the marlins for worst record
uh oh
They had the #1 pick locked. Nice job, iceholes.
And I was so looking forward to them screwing that up too.
Hell of a job by Herrera using his legs to get the second run.
get a bat and an arm in the offeseason and make a playoff push?
sign up sheet:
1. j
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Give me proper credit, bitch - I'm 1-10 on that list. Lonely bus driver here.
white doods homer fightin Phils same kids who need eric rowe to be all world
please continue....
English por favor
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 AM
English por favor
you more than anyone is fluent in homerish
I speak bits and pieces of it
next year:
hernandez-herrera-cespedes-howard-franco-montero-galvis/jp-asche/williams
zimmerman-chen-nola-morgan-1 of 1000 in-house options
90 wins. playoffs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2015, 02:32:11 AM
white doods homer fightin Phils same kids who need eric rowe to be all world
please continue....
I'm holding out for G. J. Kinne's HOF induction.
speaking of....I had to laugh at the big article yesterday about the amazing camp he is having
love watching these two guys at the top of the order
there's a jeromes furniture ad on the wall behind home plate
Odub with another bomb
wow odie turned on that
16-5 since the break.
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utley making a case to get traded, too
could pick up another organization depth arm
Chase hooked a little Phillies fan up with an autograph. Of course the kid's name was also Chase.
GRIT
80?
It's been nice watching this team play decent baseball again for the last three weeks. They're still awful but it's made waiting for the Eagles to start up again a little more bearable.
Bums (presently) > training camp fodder
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
80?
35-15 the rest of the way will do it. Still a tall order.
def nice watching the young bucks on this run. gives us something to possibly look forward to for the future.
now please make a move with Utley. like lil guy said, even for just some more pitching depth.
thats all you would get for him....somewhere around the same return they got for papelbon, maybe a little less. im assuming the phillies will eat the rest of utley's salary this year to get back someone that might be able to be a ML pitcher. thats basically all youre looking for here.
they are getting complete garbage for GRIT
might as well keep him at this point
hes not going to retire after this year, so you cant even keep him for nostalgia purposes. on top of that, the only reason hes playing is to showcase him for a trade. theyd prefer to go with galvis/hernandez every day until the end of the season.
like i said, organization depth arm. youre looking for a guy who, if everything shakes out right, could be a dependable ML pitcher, but odds are is going to be david buchanan. but, if you have like 10 of those guys in your organization, you gotta figure 1 or 2 are going to reach their full potential. so, you know, organizational depth.
I don't care about trading him but you are not getting a guy who will ever spend even five minutes in the bigs
that's if anyone even wants him
hes hitting like 160
Some team like the Cubs or Angels will take him for his GRIT
something is better than nothing in this case. no reason to keep utley the rest of the season just to see him walk. take what you can get.
Get rid of Chase but get Jimmy back.
Science.
GRIT is no gawd
neither is jimmy.
yeah he pretty much is....in fact he's probably the greatest Phillie ever
He's no Sal Fasano.
lol....they made t shirts for that farging guy
The Phils bought ex-Brave Tyler Pastornicky from the Rangers
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 12:17:56 PM
yeah he pretty much is....in fact he's probably the greatest Phillie ever
Yep.
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jimmy is black though, and j saw him play. therefore...
Schmidt was a better player but not a better Phillie
How much of a salty hater has lil guy become?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 10, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
Schmidt was a better player but not a better Phillie
Was at a bbq yesterday and the Mike Schmidt was a jerk stories came out. Everybody has one.
Chase is leading off and playing 1B, with Odubel in the 3 spot
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 10, 2015, 05:32:26 PM
How much of a salty hater has lil guy become?
yea the guy in the hall of fame and unquestioned great 3B ever is def. not as good as jimmy rollins....who is super awesome because you watched him play!
I mean Rollins is my favorite Phillie who I've watched but he's not in the convo with Schmidt or Carlton.
exactly
rollins can be your favorite player...if thats your thing...but he aint on michael jack's level
Schmidt is the greatest Phillie ever. Jimmy Rollins is in the top 5 but he's not higher than Carlton or Robin Roberts either.
id actually put him ahead of robby simply because jimmy won a title
its not roberts' fault they never won anything, but still. this wretched franchise has won 2 titles in like 130 years of existence.
JRolls 2007 was one for the ages and his triple in that last game against Washington to get them into the playoffs was beautiful but Steve Carlton's 1972 season where he went 27-10 pitching for a junior high team that barely won 60 games was remarkable.
Jimmy's game 4 NLCS hit off Braxton will always be a top 5 Phillies moment for me. Oh, and the HR he hit at Milwaukee in 2008 in game 4 was like "OK, get the farg out of here Brewers. We're done and moving on". That was awesome too.
shtein, maybe Jimmy is God.
Franco launched one tonight at AZ.
Aaron Harrang is awful. He is officially the goofiest dude in MLB.
Nice spoonful of reality tonight.
farg me for staying up for this
At least I saw the Franco blast
Quote from: Don Ho on August 10, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
JRolls 2007 was one for the ages and his triple in that last game against Washington to get them into the playoffs was beautiful but Steve Carlton's 1972 season where he went 27-10 pitching for a junior high team that barely won 60 games was remarkable.
Jimmy's game 4 NLCS hit off Braxton will always be a top 5 Phillies moment for me. Oh, and the HR he hit at Milwaukee in 2008 in game 4 was like "OK, get the farg out of here Brewers. We're done and moving on". That was awesome too.
shtein, maybe Jimmy is God.
plus he was the ultimate mets troll and single handedly willed the team to overtake them...it's just not a comparison for best Phillie btwn him and Schmitty and I love MJ
Quote from: Rome on August 10, 2015, 08:10:15 PM
Schmidt is the greatest Phillie ever. Jimmy Rollins is in the top 5 but he's not higher than Carlton or Robin Roberts either.
this. its not even close. igy just hates white people.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 05:54:46 AM
single handedly willed the team to overtake them.
the mets werent some juggernaut...they won 1 nl east title with that group. then they gagged for 2 straight seasons. i dont think jimmy had a ton to do with tom glavine getting ripped up by the marlins on the last day of the season.
mets are irrelevant.....jimmy had everything to do with changing the culture of the phillies and making them believe they could win....something a schmidt GRIT or choke was incapable of doing because of their personalities...the 80 phillies needed a pete rose for this same reason
how did he change the culture of the phillies
they pretty much had the same core from like 05-12 and won 1 world series in that span. jimmy pretty much arrived in 2001.
He talked shtein in the press and backed it up.
That's what's important, dude.
he got them to believe they could win and they did....he was the unquestioned leader of that team and they dont win without him
everthing changed when he said we are the team to beat in the spring of 07....then went out and won the mvp behind that and finally got them in the playoffs which then obviously turned into a ws title a year later
not sure why this needs explanation if you followed the team at all back then
No one is denigrating Rollins. Pretty sure he's fairly popular here. MJS though is one of the best players of all time, hit .381 with 2 HRs in the World Series, and was a lifer. I give Rollins as much credit as anyone for this core's success but he just isn't the same caliber player Schmidt was.
again...schmidt better player but rollins better phillie
lol
thats like saying lindros was a better flyer than rick tocchet or the bedwetter was a better eagle than jaws
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2015, 12:17:23 PM
he got them to believe they could win and they did....he was the unquestioned leader of that team and they dont win without him
everthing changed when he said we are the team to beat in the spring of 07....then went out and won the mvp behind that and finally got them in the playoffs which then obviously turned into a ws title a year later
not sure why this needs explanation if you followed the team at all back then
everything changed so much so the phillies needed a historic mets collapse to even make the playoffs. jimmy did have a great personal season, though. sure.
the thing about those glory years is they didnt really have a "leader." jimmy had swagger and flair, utley had intensity, victorino brought spark and energy, hamels brought the menstrual cycle. it was all there.
Destilupfrontating is my new favorite word.
Quote from: MDS on August 11, 2015, 12:43:43 PM
the thing about those glory years is they didnt really have a "leader."
bwahahaha....you either trolling or you didnt watch those teams...were you in texas then?
if you think schmidt was a better phillie then fine..thats a valid take...but to say jimmy wasnt the leader of the phils then is outrageous
sees what happening here is some good old fashioned revisionist history.
look, you are a bleeding heart liberal. and a contrarian. you personally like jimmy more than utley. you have a preferred race and like going against whatever the consensus popular thing is. this is established, even beyond this particular situation.
so now youve built it up into your mind that jimmy, who was essentially the same person from the moment he arrived -- confident, slick, full of swagger -- was the one to personally push the phillies over the top. this is not true. he was A reason. he was one of the big reasons. but it wasnt just jimmy. it was everyone. they were a pretty good team, allbeit one that simply didnt perform well enough in the playoffs after 2008. jimmy included.
you dont think he was the team leader but im a contrarian?....you are just making up stuff to make it up...im stating all facts
jimmy wasnt the only one on the field to do it (obviously but he was the single solitary reason why the clubhouse was able to win
no jimmy no title....and other than heidi (and possibly lidge) hes the only player on the team you can say that about
if anyone wonders why so many people have stopped posting here, this is why.
cut him some slack rome, he already went from single handedly, to maybe hamels and lidge were just as important.
progress !
Quote from: Rome on August 11, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
if anyone wonders why so many people have stopped posting here, this is why.
Trust me. No one wonders. In fact, Dio more or less nailed it.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 08, 2015, 09:03:29 PM
He's not a fan. He's a mental ward candidate. [...]
His schtick online is to be as invidious as possible, and his principal need is attention attention attention. Never been wrong, everything is the best or the worst, everyone else is an idiot, or a homer, or MA, or whatever.
Haven't we been down this road. Doesn't the guy just eat it up that we are talking about him?
What's amazing is IGY's stamina for this. He's a bottomless well, and there is no fulfilling whatever need he has that drives this behavior. Long after others have given up he is still here arguing every point to its bitter nonsensical end. It's really something to behold.
Actually the other amazing thing is that despite the unchanging endlessness of his online persona, he is a pretty quiet and agreeable dude in person. Clearly this is where he vents all of his pent up weirdness.
I admire his fortitude
It's pretty impressive.
the internet is fun. even fat kids can seem cool.
Well there goes the only reason to watch the rest of the year.
Hopefully Hellickson takes one in the back
Or Goldschmidt
Buchanan is horrible. Carry on
franco's going to be fine
not sure buchanan is good at pitching
I went to put my daughter to bed, and it's 1-0 Phils.
I come back out, and it's 11-1 D-Backs.
David. Buchanan.
Not that this train wreck was going anywhere but it was pretty cool to watch. Last two nights really brought it to a crash landing.
we all knew the little run the team went on was not going to go for too long. still saw some good things out there. obviously this team needs arms. other than the likes of Buchanan.
phils are back to being the worst team in baseball, which is a good thing
you idiots realize they need to lose
thankfully we have our resident mensa heeb to point these things out to us.
I actually enjoy following this team much more now that they've dumped so much of their aging crap. Watching young, barely professional players lose is way more enjoyable than watching old, barely professional players lose.
That's the point I was making earlier in the thread. They have some talent out there who aren't thisclose to filing retirement papers. It's not the best talent ever but at least it's marginally promising.
yes and we better see someone on the dbacks get plunked today.
Apparently the Giants made an offer for Utley.
Gritty by the bay
#7 system in baseball according to mlb.com
tops in the nl east
top 3 pick coming next june, too
Heard on the radio he's gonna choose between the Angels and Cubbies
Twenty-five years ago today. 25.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CBguleFR3w
I remember it from the cut in on ESPN
Lived in Kansas at the time
Solid footage of Carmelo Martinez, Jose DeJesus, Sil Campusano and Rod Booker
white peoples
the nationals are 6-12 since acquiring papelbon
1:
phi 46 80
mia 46
col 47
mike mike go night night for the season
Swell, one of the only reasons to watch this ship wreck.
is hinkie magic wearing off on amaro?
phils need to get that 1....give all starts to jerome williams please
Rosenthal said that Utley may be traded today
Sounds like the Dodgers.
how awesome would it be if it was for jimmy
I'm sure he'd be thrilled at the prospect of going from a 1st place team to the worst in MLB.
2 minor leaguers coming back
i cant imagine its much considering los doyers are paying 1/3rd of his salary and hes a 6 week bench bat rental
stat i just saw
GRIT and jimmy had 60 or more extra base hits and 15 or more sb each in three different seasons
every other ss/2b duo in history of league has a combined one
Now both back in cali. Be cool to see them win another ring together.
yeah, no it wouldn't.
No, love ya Bionic but farg the Doyers.
Ah well thanks for 2008 Grit
South Jerz women losing their shtein tonight?
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane
Todd! It's Temple University Night at CBP. The entire Owl football team is there. Do it!
Oh, and for our resident nerds its also Star Wars Night at the bank.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane
almost as obnoxious as the rollins fluffing from others...
Now you've done it!
darnell sweeney 1 of the players coming back
-hes black
-hes a switch hitter
-hell turn 25 next season
-10hr power, 30sb potential
not a bad get back for a fossil rental like utley. between altherr, williams, herrera and this dude, they very likely will wind up with at least 2 quality ML players.
Quote from: Rome on August 19, 2015, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 19, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
the fawning over him on Twitter both male and female is insane
almost as obnoxious as the rollins fluffing from others...
thats pretty much just me
the entire phillies planet was in tears today...for jimmy it was like 25% good riddance and 75% they have to rebuild
For Jimmy it was...
"You're on the WIP morning show! Go ahead Retardo from Downingtown..."
"Is t it great that J-Stroll is gone, Ang? He can go pop up and not run grounders out in LA. Perfect place for him, Ang!"
Anyways...Altherr looked good tonight. When he was up before he showed no signs of being any good. Definitely picked his game up
I had more of a reaction when Rollins was traded. Maybe because he was my favorite modern Phil, maybe because he was the first of the core to go.
Sweeney will be on the ML roster and Eickhoff is starting Friday
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 19, 2015, 09:50:29 PM
For Jimmy it was...
"You're on the WIP morning show! Go ahead Retardo from Downingtown..."
"Is t it great that J-Stroll is gone, Ang? He can go pop up and not run grounders out in LA. Perfect place for him, Ang!"
Anyways...Altherr looked good tonight. When he was up before he showed no signs of being any good. Definitely picked his game up
that never happened
Oh really? You're denying that people celebrated Jimmy leaving?!
Did you completely forget the rip jobs that people gave Jimmy on a routine basis?
it certainly wasn't the majority but a solid minority of people loved it when he went and the rest were apathetic...the media and a select number of fans were distraught...unlike yesterday where pretty much everyone was acting like their mother died including media members who GRIT gave no copy too
Marcus Hayes nails it...
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20150820_Chase_Utley_was_the_man.html
And you jackasses are ridiculous. This isn't news, however.
as usual you completely miss the point.....this isnt about GRIT being super GRITty its about him getting more love than jimmy and choke combined....GRIT was incredible
use your words.
http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/144245554/darnell-sweeney-john-richy-have-potential
Getting their 13th ranked prospect for a six week rental is absurd especially after the waiver deadline.
I don't know who's making the deals for them but someone deserves an attaboy.
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them
Quote from: Rome on August 20, 2015, 08:14:46 AM
Getting their 13th ranked prospect for a six week rental is absurd especially after the waiver deadline.
I don't know who's making the deals for them but someone deserves an attaboy.
13th is pretty low for a "prospect" that will turn 25 before next year....but i would have taken a bag of fat burgers for GRIT so i agree the return is solid....to me th best part of the deal is getting the dodgers 13th best prospect and having him not even be able to crack the phillies top ten....shows how far the fightins system has come
Quote from: SD on August 20, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them
choke and chooch are obvious...dont know the other
thats a little misleading because young guys are "under contract" they just dont have their salaries determined yet
but the answer is matt harrison
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
Oh really? You're denying that people celebrated Jimmy leaving?!
Did you completely forget the rip jobs that people gave Jimmy on a routine basis?
i didnt see any celebration of jimmy leaving...at the most there was some "it's time." but yes, again, the gritty good looking hustling white dude is more beloved than the black dude who took at bats off and thought he was barry bonds at points. amazing. i cant believe it. lets whine about it some more.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG
i totally forgot he existed, even though ive seen tweets that hes been pitching for the gulf coast team.
Bacon
Bacon and grits
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
i guess its also misleading because it wrong since i just looked it up and found another in MAG
MAG isn't a Phillie though
He's not on the 40.
ARGUE WITH THAT!
he will be after he dominates in clearwater next spring
Quote from: SD on August 20, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
There are only 3 Phillies under contract next season...without looking can you name them
Choke
Chooch
Lee?
Howard, Ruiz, and the pitcher they got back for Hamels with the bad back.
Jerome Williams has to truly be the worst starter in the majors
It takes a superhuman effort to be as comically awful as this team has been, and the Jerome Williamses of the world are a perfect fit it your intention in signing him is to toss a warm body out there as a sixth guy in a five guy rotation.
The thing he's never been good. Ever. He's been to varying degrees mediocre to outright awful from the moment he started pitching in the Major Leagues. He wasn't supposed to be anything more than a stop-gap and that's exactly what he's been.
except this is Jerome Williams 20th start of the season
lol 1.2 and 8 now
and this I don't think is even his worst start this year
williams: -0.3 war, 1.58 whip, 5.47 era
shane greene: -1.7 war, 1.55 whip, 6.88 era
buchanan: -1.5 war, 1.57 whip, 9.00 era
guthrie: -1.5 war, 1.57 whip, 5.65 era
buchanan only has 10 starts, compared to the 20+ for the other dudes. but that 9 flat era is something special. also williams stats dont include tonight.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 20, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
except this is Jerome Williams 20th start of the season
They picked him up off the scrap heap in Texas last year and he proceeded to not be the worst pitcher in the universe.
So, of course, naturally Roob decides that the best course of action is to sign him to the most lucrative contract of his farging career despite the fact that he's sucked every other place he's ever been.
It's the Phillies way, bro. Embrace it.
complaining about jerome williams making 2.5 mil on a 1 year deal for a team that knew it was losing 100 games is really a stretch
but i still like you
I actually like him...i mean if you are going to suck it's sorta neat to be able to legit say you might have the single worst SP in mlb on your team....there's a lot of pitchers in the league
im not even sure if hes the worst....jeremy guthrie is having a special season and hes doing it for a very good team
williams would have been DFAed if not for the phillies being horrible
The Phillies knew they were going to be horrible so they signed this bag of dicks to ensure it. Yes, I understand that. No, I don't care what they paid him. I just thought it was comical that they paid him the highest salary of his career when every other major league team would have undoubtedly given him the veteran minimum, if that. They also gave Aaron Harang a small fortune, and of course, he hasn't earned a dime of it either, but at least he had past seasons where he was a really good pitcher. Not anytime recently, obviously, but still...
This team sucks. It was going to suck whether they signed them or not. And although I don't care about their payroll per se, I just find it amusing that this team continued signing these losers to some fairly lusty and generous deals when every other team said, uhhhh, pass.
eickhoff getting the start tonight....gonna be a lot of debuts in the next couple of years...exciting even when its not a great prospect....anything better than the garbage of the last two years
so true. even a glimmer of hope is better than the quicksand of shtein that team had become.
next, give lee his payout after the season and bye bye to him. after that, does howard get released ? what else is there to do with him ?
its the marlins but this bum is actually pitching ok
mowing them the farg down
Great play by Rupp! Yes, the guy er, ah, "sprinting" home was moving slower than molasses but it was a great tag.
is odie the new jimmy?
Yep! The dude is awesome. I love his attitude, confident almost like "I'm getting a farging hit of it kills me"
yeah his personality is pretty much jimmy cept he can't speak English and jimmy is from the west coast Baltimore
god the Marlins suck
this is a joke
at least the fightins are still tryin
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
yeah his personality is pretty much jimmy cept he can't speak English and jimmy is from the west coast Baltimore
LOL
Seems like Eickhoff did well?
How was his stuff?
He pitched very well, got lucky on a few such as when Ozuna ripped one just foul down the first base line that would have plated two and the double by Ozuna and the relay home that got the slug out at the plate on Rupp's nice tag.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2015, 12:48:22 AM
Seems like Eickhoff did well?
How was his stuff?
horrendous to me....looked liked batting practice
Eickhoff pitched ok. His stuff isn't great, though. He's got middle/back of the rotation stuff, but he looked like a battler, and after watching the likes of Williams & Buchanon all year, mediocrity's a welcome sight. I have to say he was doing it against the Marlins, though, and yes, they are definitely worse than the Phillies, records not withstanding.
That stadium looks and sounds like a garish tomb.
Quote from: Rome on August 22, 2015, 06:04:29 AM
but he looked like a battler
dare i say he was GRITty?
He threw strikes, didn't walk a ton of people and didn't give up a run.
Mock.
i know easy and romey you are no easy
The most surprising thing about that game was watching Howard rip the ball for three doubles. He looked like 2006 vintage Choke Dog last night.
they have a ton of internal backend options....eickhoff is 1 of them
like i said before theyre likely going to have to go outside the system to top off the rotation, but they should be able to easily afford that. but the good thing is they are deep with quasi-ML pitching, so in the case of injury or ineffectiveness in 2017/18, they wont have to go to a gas can arm or sean o'sullivan or something.
sweeney!!!
LOL at Dee Gordon asking $5K for Sweeney's HR ball
Sweeney and Altherr doing the damn thang
yes the bums are 9,000 games out but I can't stand the Marlins. Goes back to Dan Uggla and his bullshtein plus the phony fan base. Announced crowd of 22K? yea right, and J and I just got called up.
not a good night....colorado and cincy both gonna lose
Quote from: Don Ho on August 22, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
yes the bums are 9,000 games out but I can't stand the Marlins. Goes back to Dan Uggla and his bullshtein plus the phony fan base. Announced crowd of 22K? yea right, and J and I just got called up.
Cody Ross can farg himself too
Can't win these must-lose games.
LOL
Sweeney's dinger was a bomb pop. Loved the cold shoulder treatment and his reaction to it too. The team still sucks but it's actually gotten fun to watch some youngsters out there getting their feet wet. Too bad this shtein didn't start happening two years ago.
thats sweeneys third walk today
good game, bad win
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205963857628012
Daily News goodbye from Grit
Howard just went deep on deGrom. Teams have one week before the playoff deadline... anyone in the AL need a DH?
hes not movable until next deadline
Play spoiler against Los Mets
Quote from: MDS on August 24, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
hes not movable until next deadline
I know, but a guy can dream.
bandbox special tonight. 9 HRs through 5 innings
EDIT: now 10, a new CBP record
History was made tonight
Combined home runs in a national league game...11...ties the record
florida and colorado lost, gotta give the phils credit for laying down
Quote from: SD on August 24, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
History was made tonight
Combined home runs in a national league game...11...ties the record
First time since the 23-22 game
red sox are letting don orsillo go, for some reason
phils would be wise to jump on that
hire a lifelong red sox fan from boston to announce for the phillies.....yeah terrible idea
just move franzke up....this is so easy
if they were going to go with franzke they wouldve done it already
if they were going with anyone new they would have done it already...theres a time for everything
the point is IF they are ready for a pbp addition to the tv booth then franzke is the answer....not a red sox lifer
yeah franzke is a no brainer.
Jerome Williams you clown.
Ha - Bowa gets thrown out for going ballistic after Robles quick-pitches Ruf.
Needed to do that last night.
https://vine.co/v/ej65nTHFrBz
Haha was he telling the pitcher he was gonna get hit?
huge loss tonight....marlins and rockies won
i wish they would play the mets every night - guaranteed L and the best broadcast in the game
The quotes coming out of this quick-pitch debacle are great. Travis d'Arnaud sounds like he wants to be back with the Phillies. He threw his pitcher under the bus.
Quote"I just know the guy's head was down," d'Arnaud said. "I think the rule is you can't throw it until at least they're looking at him. So I was telling him to wait. He threw it. You never know what could happen in that situation when you're looking down and something like that happens."
As for Bowa and the Phillies' reaction, d'Arnaud added: "It's just a coach who's trying to protect his players. You've got a competitive organization. They're not called the Fightin' Phils for no reason. They back each other up. That's all I saw was he's just trying to fight for his players."
D'Arnaud had actually apologized to the Phillies an inning earlier, when he appeared to flip his bat after drawing a bases-loaded walk that tied the score. D'Arnaud said he had too much pine tar and the bat stuck in his hand before it went flying.
Bowa losing it towards Murphy cracked me up
Yankees got pissy at Gomez last night too. Too bad McCann wasn't behind the plate.
I think it was sunny who posted the greatest Bowa video ever a few years ago. It was when he was with the Cubs and he kept calling the guy a funhole from the dugout and was making funhole hang gesters. I can't find it anywhere but if anyone can find that gem please post it.
lolol I remember that
I'll see if I can dig it up
it was when he was on the padres and i can't find it on youtube anymore
That's right the Cubs one is Lee Elia
Dead spin search may pull up the Bowa one
i love cranky old white dudes
if it was the other way around bowa would be besides himself....but since its this way hes screaming about the unwritten rules.
phils - 50 (on the way to 80)
marlins - 51
rocks - 51
reds - 52
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13517750/philadelphia-phillies-future-looks-bright-lead-them
The goldmine quote is...interesting
As is the info about PHIL
just about to link that...good story
cherington would be a disaster. farg that guy.
One good thing about the Phillies being in total rebuild mode is in a couple of years when the young talent hits the Majors and the team is good again, it will be the Phillies reaming pieces of shtein like Aaron Harang out of 5-run leads.
Can't come soon enough.
Ugh...
Harrang makes Jerome Williams look like a Cy Young Candiidate. He is pure awful.
The way Mets Nation owned CBP this week was infuriating. It was a farging home series for the Mets. In the words of Todd "farging South Jersey"
Alec Asher called up to start Sunday
All he does is hit for extra bases...Altherrrrrrrr
Nola pitched well tonight.
granted theyre against 2 awful teams, but 2 dominating starts for nola
he looks like a solid mid rotation guy thus far. maybe can creep up if he learns "how to win." see j i used a stupid baseball cliche!
Von Brown is a tall and slender athlete with long legs, but he looks like he's running in mud when going around the bases. Just seems like he should be faster.
phils 52
rockies 52 (4 more games to play than US)
marlins 53
redlegs 53
bravos 54
brewers 55
OMG the Phillies might lose out on the next Matt Bush!
That first draft pick has what, like a 50% chance to be a good player on the team that drafted him when he finally comes up to the bigs four years from now, assuming he's not a high school kid who decides to go to college or declines to sign, in a team sport in which one player makes a marginal difference even if he's a Hall of Fame player. If the Phillies slip down to the second or third picks, those odds might go down to.... 49%.
Yeah... tanking in baseball...
By the way the only time in the last 25 years that a #1 overall pick went on to win the World Series on the team that drafted him was Pat the Bat.
no matter the chances of a player making it having your team have the number one overall pick in any sport is an awesome thing...plus I want jason groom bad
let's do this!!
to a certain extent qb is right....baseball drafting is the ultimate crapshoot....but consider:
2007 David Price
2008 Tim Beckham
2009 Stephen Strasburg
2010 Bryce Harper
2011 Gerrit Cole
2012 Carlos Correa
2013 Mark Appel
2014 Brady Aiken
2015 Dansby Swanson
so since 07, theres really been 1 real misfire and beckham has had drug and injury problems his entire career. so you never know about that.
the phils dont have a 100% chance to find a great player with the 1, but they certainly have a better chance than if they had the 2
it doesnt matter if theres a 1% chance of the pick making it
having the number one overall pick is a great thing...even if its only for psychological purposes
Normally I would agree with l'il guy here, but this is the Phillies we're talking about.
They couldn't find water if they fell out of a boat.
that argument makes no sense....in the past 3 years theyve drafted franco, nola and crawford. 15 years ago that dweeb ed wade drafted the core that won you the only title your booze riddled mind can remember.
now the phillies might (or will) get unlucky and draft the BPA who will turn out to be a drug addict flameout. but thats really because of bad luck more than anything.
They're in last place because the guys they drafted to replace Howard, Utley, Rollins, Chooch & the entire pitching staff never panned out.
From 1995-2004 they were probably the best in baseball at drafting. After that and until very recently it's been a total disaster.
You realize that, right?
so for half of the last 20 years they were the best in baseball at drafting and lately they have been good...but theres zero chance the brand new gm they just hired can hit on the first overall pick next year because the phillies?
Yes
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
They're in last place because the guys they drafted to replace Howard, Utley, Rollins, Chooch & the entire pitching staff never panned out.
From 1995-2004 they were probably the best in baseball at drafting. After that and until very recently it's been a total disaster.
You realize that, right?
sure, but theres a difference between misfiring with an athlete at pick 27 and misfiring with a cant miss prospect at 1. if the phillies miss on their top pick in 16 it wont be because of them, it will be because the kid stinks.
Lead paint chips?
you coming to a tailgate this year big guy
I'm a broke ass gubmint stooge.
So probably not.
nola getting sodomized
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom
Just saw the clip. Phillies gonna Phillie.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom
I'm still laughing
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 02, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
nola getting sodomized
There was one shot of him where it honestly looked like he was going to puke. Almost as if he just got off the world's gnarliest roller coaster after eating at the all you can eat mexican buffet.
27-1 to get to 80
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 02, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
HOF with the Philliest play ever...good job Dom
He's being evaluated for a concussion. Wonder if MLB uses the same protocol as the NFL.
probably gonna be his last moment as a phillie
good way to go out
asche to classy + HOF = 634 AB, .203 BA, 26 2B, 3 3B, 12 HR, 49 RBI, .653 OPS
those were for the most part the phillies corner outfielders this year
fenway is more of a cesspool than the phillies organizaton
you fall in love with altherr yet
words cant describe how overrated the phillie "prospects" are....me and a fellow realist were talking about this yesterday at the cask and flagon....i love philly fans not on message boards
Fellow realist eh?
Betcha that was a fun conversation.
Like the two Chinese dudes in Major League "they're zesty!"
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
words cant describe how overrated the phillie "prospects" are....me and a fellow realist were talking about this yesterday at the cask and flagon....i love philly fans not on message boards
yea franco sucks
he seems promising....him and crawford thats it thats the list...and out of those two only one has a chance
so we are down to one possible stud
listen to people like you guys and they have a literal pipeline of mickey mantles on the way
This is gonna be good...
havas is drunk....theres nothing i can do here but this
the phillies have options. tons of options. prospects are percentages. kris bryant is like a 95%....rube amaro's nephew is like a 0. the phillies have a lot of guys that, over the next 2-3 years, have a minimum 30-40% chance of hitting. not every card is going to hit. but you have to figure, with all these options, 1 or 2 will.
thats why they now have a top 10 system in baseball. do they have a future mvp candidate? probably not. but remember. they have 200 mil to spend. they dont need to produce 8 stud position players. they already have a semblance of a base. in the 17 or 18 offseason they can start spending money and adding big time pieces.
TONS!!
look at the current teams
the royals have some very nice players, but no prospects espn jizzed over like bryant. the cardinals produce solid player after solid player. the giants produced 2 flat out studs and filled in around them. the yankees lone home grown player of note is brett gardner. the dodgers spent wildly and drafted well. the blue jays blew up their farm system. the nats mixed in FA signings, trades and home grown talent and got very lucky that a once in a generation talent was there for them. the cubs drafted insanely well.
theres a ton of different ways to build up in baseball...this isnt the nba where you need to have a super star other worldly player.
list the phillie prospects that are going to be above average major leagues in three years
i cant predict which ones will hit and which ones wont, but between
altherr-sweeney-herrera-hernandez-galvis-knapp-williams-cousins-kingery-alfaro-tocci and a few others guys that im forgetting...
youd hope to have a 2B, C and 1-2 OFs (maybe 1 is a platoon). with your 3B and SS taken care of, that leaves looking toward FA for an outfield spot and a 1B. thats a pretty good deal.
next year youll know more about altherr and sweeney. by summer you should see williams and maybe alfaro. knapp has been destroying the ball at AA but he might not have a position. OPTIONS!
ok so dont get specific but how many legit major league starters come out of the TONS! o fun
lets say 4? a catcher, a 2B, and 2 OFs. then they spend that comcast money on a big corner OF bat and a 1B (though maybe alfaro isnt a catcher, so he moves to first and they spend on a catcher).
pitching is a different beast....they have plenty of depth. thompson and nola and maybe efflin are good ML talent. but they dont have anybody next-level. thatll need to come outside the organization (matt harvey 2019!).
I agree with drunk havas and disagree. I agree the Phillies don't have a plethora of stud talent in the minors . Franco/Crawford have a chance to be good, think Nola falls into a 2/3 pitcher if everything goes right, Giles is nice as a closer, but then you have a bunch of maybes. I mean, there's guys that have a chance to make the majors but they're maybe middle of the pack prospect wise after all the trades.
Where I disagree with him is that a bunch of phillies fans have overhyped their prospects. Most fans I interact with agree with everything I've said above. Sure you get the homer Todd/Jay types who think Nick Williams is the next Willie Mays but by and large they're realist.
The best thing they've done is clear salary because there's not enough minor league talent to fill their needs so they're going to have to add talent via free agency if they plan on contending in the next 5 years.
ive never said nick williams is willie mays....j doesnt know who williams is. hes a straight forward ML dude.
i said they have a bunch of options. a bunch of "maybes." they need 3 or 4 of the maybes to hit. the odds are high that that will happen. im not the one who ranked the phils 7th in mlb in farm systems. alls i can do is point to that, point to that potential and tell you neanderthals to be patient and get ready for 2017.
Lolol I know who he is. Nice try, buddy
Aside from Crawford/Franco/Nola/Giles who are their 3 of 4 maybes you think make it? They'll be lucky if 2 of their current minor leaguers make significant major league contributions. Hopefully they get the #1 pick this season and that player turns out. Pitching staff is going to have to be built through free agency because their minor league arms are barren
Quote from: SD on September 05, 2015, 09:58:51 PM
Where I disagree with him is that a bunch of phillies fans have overhyped their prospects. Most fans I interact with agree with everything I've said above. Sure you get the homer Todd/Jay types who think Nick Williams is the next Willie Mays but by and large they're realist.
in person phillie fans dont seem to be super homers for the most part...at least not ones from philly....there is a tangible difference....thats why i said i was so happy to talk to this guy up here...internet heads seem to be out of their minds
in general i agree with the clearing salary and even the trades i have liked a lot...they have done as best they could under not friendly circumstances....but just because they did the best they could doesnt mean they loaded up the farm with ridiculous talent
you guys are really confused about what it takes to have a good team
you dont need 8 all stars and 5 aces.
pretty sure no one was talking about what it takes to have a good team
months ago you were whining at me that the phillies didnt have a prospect espn was jizzing its pants about, like bryant or pederson
thats all you want
yeah i do.....thats why i want the number 1 pick next year....i want that magic guy
also im open to crawford being the truth....m just not on board with this total magical rebuild in the last 5 minutes
well its not going to take 5 minutes....16 isnt going to be great, but yea, theyve gone from a 20-25 farm system to a 5-10 in the past year. its a fact.
i want them to lose out more than anyone too. but you dont need a trout/harper level dude to win in mlb.
the difference is you think their system actually is top ten...i think its better but mostly a fraud
It's not fraud, it's depth. Depth doesn't appear to be much when that's all you have (like they do now) but it's the key to sustaining a system. You get another top-end guy in the system to pair with JP it'll look much better.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 05, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
the difference is you think their system actually is top ten...i think its better but mostly a fraud
i dont know other teams systems and who their prospects are....the big boys rank them top 10. i know the phils system well and see a ton of depth. i see what theyre doing at the ML levels with altherr and herrera. i see what theyre doing at AA with williams, thompson and knapp.
those things lead me to believe this thing might be pretty good in 17 or 18
im far from an expert on most other teams but i do see the write ups btwn phillie prospects and other teams and the current group of phils seems lackluster to me compared to most
this doesnt count low and high A tho....you can always get out of nowhere guys from clearwater or lakewood
what write ups
everyone ever
omg well thats it
better focus on oct 2016 when embiid begins his hof career
I agree with Todd on this:
- Record-wise, this year is probably the bottom-out point, though next year could be at the same level.
- "Future-prospect-wise," last year was probably the bottom out point. They still had Rollins-Utley-Howard all on the payroll and on the roster, and there was much less in the pipe.
Basically, it's starting back on the up-swing, but it's got an extremely long way to go.
I love what they've done in terms of purging the roster of dead wood. They got some decent young talent in return. They have billions about to come in from Comcast, so it's not unrealistic to see them contending in two or three years if everything goes right. I still think it's a colossal mistake keeping Ruben at the helm, though. I would have fired his smug ass as my first order of business.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 06, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
I agree with Todd on this:
- Record-wise, this year is probably the bottom-out point, though next year could be at the same level.
- "Future-prospect-wise," last year was probably the bottom out point. They still had Rollins-Utley-Howard all on the payroll and on the roster, and there was much less in the pipe.
Basically, it's starting back on the up-swing, but it's got an extremely long way to go.
"extremely long" is probably too conservative. most of their prospects are in AA or already up. by 2017 id project a pretty competitive team. i wouldnt say "great" in 2017, just simply competitive.
they will not be over .500 before 2020
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility
minimum three more seasons of garbage tho
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility
minimum three more seasons of garbage tho
As long as there's steady improvement year to year I can live with that
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
actually I take that back 2019 is a possibility
minimum three more seasons of garbage tho
youre just wrong about that, by any measure
they can buy a competitive team this offseason if they wanted to. by 2017 theyll have some youngins and 150 mil in salary space to spend. you really, really dont understand baseball.
even if you dont think anybody in their system is going to hit, which would be based on nothing more than that special igy brand of fear and paranoia, then just look at the salary space. its a ton of money!
They could buy an entire team of high priced free agents and not even blink twice. Suggesting they can't be competitive for another five years is nonsense. 2016 is out and probably 2017 as well but 2018 is entirely in play simply because the talent they have in the system will be ready and the money they'll have to spend will be astronomical.
That's why it's so important to pick the right general manager to direct the rebuild and farging Ruben ain't the guy.
2018 is in play but 2019 is nonsense
got it
also how did it go for the Red Sox and buying a team
How did it go?
(http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/Soxring2013.jpg)
Pretty well, I'd say.
Also - you said 2020. That's five years out. They're going to have a nearly unlimited amount of money to spend in 2017. It's not even remotely far-fetched to think that they're going balls-deep to contend in that year.
no for whatever reason probably homerism you chose to only read 2020
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
they will not be over .500 before 2020
I read what you posted. You hedged most likely because even you don't believe the bullshtein you routinely post here.
the yankees bought their current team and theyre going to make the playoffs....the pirates have drafted and well and built from the ground up and they havent made the nlcs yet.
2017 is a logical and realistic target year from them to be competitive and give us a baseball summer. that doesnt mean 2017 is going to be a juggernaut world series contender. just a decent team that can hang in a 2nd wc race at the least. theres really no debating that.
Nope. 2019 at the earliest. Probably 2020!
Quote from: Rome on September 06, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 06, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
they will not be over .500 before 2020
I read what you posted. You hedged most likely because even you don't believe the bullshtein you routinely post here.
yeah 2019 is so out of this world preposterously impossible that you said 2018
So the Phillies, huh?
Swept again. Jack Mehoff pitched, well, he threw baseballs towards the catcher for a while and most of them went back the other way faster than they were thrown.
So go draft picks from here on out?
its been go draft picks for 3 years
next year id like to see them play well, but still finish inside the top 11 so they can keep that pick if they sign a type A free agent heading into 17.
Not sure what's more pathetic, Aaron Harang on the mound, the Braves in general or the crowd at CBP tonight? Guess I fall in that category for watching BUT I am on outta here. On the way to surf.
actually a huge series with atl 1 game ahead of the phils for the #1 pick
harang williams buchanan would be nice to see
the young pitching has been gamechanging the last week or so
Smallest crowd in CBP history tonight - announced at 15k
Eskin says actual count was 9300.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 07, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
the young pitching has been gamechanging the last week or so
the only go to follow is nola...stop being a troll. who omg i guess had a bad start omg omg omg
the 2 guys they got from texas are org depth
number one overall matters
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-nl-east-phillies-marlins-braves-race-for-top-draft-pick/?ex_cid=story-twitter
Ding dong the witch is dead
SMUG IS OUT
3pm press conference, Proefrock is the interim GM
http://m.phillies.mlb.com/news/article/148481818
Good riddance.
Later smug, I'll remember you the same way I remember Jason Babin and Papelbon.
By choking a bitch?
IN.
brett myers would approve
obviously for the best, but he made some nice moves this year and did everything he could to get them to win 09-11
would be nice though to get someone in here who thinks RBIs are stupid
He was handed a Ferrari and now it's not worth the price of a busted chainsaw.
he was handed a ferrari that was going to turn into a ford pinto and thats exactly what happened
he just extended the length in which it would be a pinto
that's simply untrue. whatever, though. he's gone and we can only hope whoever they decide to select as a replacement makes wiser choices.
Who are the candidates?
Please be someone legit.
As for Sir hungry hungry hipposalot saying someone who hates rbis? lol yeah ok
Quote from: Rome on September 10, 2015, 06:47:05 PM
that's simply untrue. whatever, though. he's gone and we can only hope whoever they decide to select as a replacement makes wiser choices.
its 100% true. nobody is good forever, except for maybe the cardinals. even if they drafted well, there wouldve been a down period where the new players replaced choke, jimmy, chase, etc. and i can only imagine your reaction if they got rid of those guys before shtein went bad.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 10, 2015, 07:07:29 PM
Who are the candidates?
Please be someone legit.
As for Sir hungry hungry hipposalot saying someone who hates rbis? lol yeah ok
no lists yet, but its probably going to be a young nerd who will treat your heroes (other grown men) as commodities not as greek gods
Bullet point two in The MDS Troll Manifesto;
The hero line
The Yankees are still good 6 years after winning the World Series. So are the Cardinals. The Dodgers reloaded and are in the hunt again.
It can be done especially with a monster payroll. They should have cut bait after 2012 but they doubled down on aging fossils.
And here we are.
the yankees are 1 for their last 4 in trying to buy a decent team...its not sustainable.
the dodgers payroll is north of 300 mil. theyre in a class of their own.
the phillies bought lee, flexed their muscles for halladay and bough a closer. so they spent fairly wildly. it didnt work because their core was old...so if they move on from that....theres those young players again maybe needing some time to figure it out.
again. there was always going to be a comedown from 08-11. amaro simply extended it.
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/phillies/?wss=/philly/sports/phillies&id=326531561
Middleton continues to be vocal - good
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/20150911_Ruben_Amaro_s_vision_was_shortsighted.html
QuoteYesterday, the organization finally announced its judgment, and on all counts it agreed. What we have witnessed over the last four years has been a spectacular failure, and an avoidable one. There is a certain strain of revisionism going around that suggests the Phillies were victims of their own success, that their five straight division titles and best-in-history rotation pushed expectations to a point that exceeded reality, that nothing beyond luck could have prevented what we've seen.
This is a silly notion, the opiate of the mediocre, of minds that take comfort in regression to the mean. It is a loser's mentality.
Look around baseball, and this is what you see: The Cardinals, who have had one losing season since 1999. The Angels, who have not had back-to-back losing seasons since 1992-94. The Yankees, who are closing in on their 23rd consecutive season with a winning record. The Rays, who finished above .500 in six straight seasons despite a minuscule payroll, and who have not come close to resembling the embarrassment that their opponent in the 2008 World Series became. The Red Sox, who had a 16-year stretch from 1998-2013 that featured 15 winning records and three world titles. They do not view defeat as inevitable: With a month left in their second straight losing season, they made a change.
Boom.
pinto bacon
I'm glad he's gone, but in the interest of fairness and objectivity, Rube did as good of a job as anyone could have expected to keep the Phils in a position to win multiple championships between 2009-2012. You can't really blame the GM because a 102 win team didn't get beyond the WC round.
Problem is that nearly every move he's made since that run ended has been one bad decision after another. I think it pretty much started with the Papelbon signing and then went straight downhill from there.
Either way, this is the smartest decision the team made in the last 3 or 4 years.
2011 will sting for awhile. Doc, Lee, Heidi, Lee Harvey. No excuse.
Lee game 2, 4-0 lead. yak.
Oswalt pitched like a bitch in game 4 and if I recall "thought" he pitched pretty good, go back to your tractor.
Doc had a great game 5 in that duel with Carpenter but he was lucky as hell the bums bats won game 1 as he was tossing BP that game.
T Mac not in booth tonight. You realize how bad Stairs and Murphey are. I could handle T Mac and Schmitty.
There are two Chicago clowns dressed as the Ditka Da Bears characters from SNL sittign behind home plate. I have visions of disembowling them with a gaff, yet once again I should be disembowled for watching this shtein show. More about watching the Cubs and it's raining here.
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2015/09/13/149164330/jp-crawford-tags-runner-out-on-incredible-play?partnerId=as_mlb_20150913_52387226&adbid=643210408065527808&adbpl=tw&adbpr=241544156
Crawford went yard too. He's like a Rollins/Grit hybrid type player. Plays with attitude and grit.
i cant believe hes still only 20
i had tickets for the game but it got rained out fri and i couldnt go last night
altherr with a 2B and a 3B today, too. i really like him.
between him, franco, jp and williams, they have a potential core. the issue is pitching. the 2016 draft has no outrageous stud, but the top is lining up to be pitching heavy.
The good thing about pitching is you don't have to develop it you can just sign two studs and have Nola as your #3 and be halfway decent. This upcoming free agent pitching market is absurd and the Phils have plenty of money. No reason it shouldn't happen this offseason.
1) nobody wants to sign with this pos team...hey david price do you want to wait 2 years for jp crawford to develop? no? why not!
2) you cant sign pitching on the FA market until youre right there. FA arms are at and around 30, which is when they start trending downhill. so its a 5-7 yeas deal with the backhalf likely being a wash. think cliff lee. its a 5 year deal and he gave them half of it. so when youre a true contender you can do it, knowing youre getting the stud at his peak when youre good. the phillies, david price or not, cant win next year and at best can be competitive in 2017. so now youre asking david price or zach grineke to basically waste 2 years of their primes.
You're paying them exorbitant sums of money to waste two years of their primes. I don't want them to waste money on big money free agents this winter anyway, but it's not as if Middleton won't break the bank to sign a Price or Greinke or both. And it's not as if they wouldn't take the highest bid either.
grienke is a 100 years old and i dont think hes gonna opt out anyway....regardless lil guy is right they are nowhere near close enough to winning to give out some awful jon lester type deal to anyone much less two people
the worst thing they can do is overpay for price or grienke by 10-15 mil....i mean even if they sign these guys their lineup isnt close. i dont even know why this is a discussion.
middleton will pay big money but the phillies arent ready to spend it yet. the FA classes are shaping up to be good in 19, 20, 21. thats about when, logically, they will turn into a contender if this thing works out.
As I said, I hope they don't. There's no need for it. I'm just saying that money is no object with this team especially after they clear the remaining dead money off the books.
And BTW... Greinke has 3/$71M left on that option. That's chicken feed compared to what he could earn on the open market. Figure at least $140M over 6 years. Someone will be dumb enough to fork it over. No doubt about it.
i thought grienke was older than he is but what i was saying is that he reworks the deal with the dodgers ie doesnt opt out and hit the market
either way hes not ever willingly coming to the phillies
kuechler - 2019
cobb - 2018
gray - 2020
cole - 2020
carlos martinez - 2020
jose fernandez - 2019
harvey - 2019
degrom - 2020
syndergaard - 2021
ty ross - 2018
obviously not all of these guys are going to be FAs...or still be elite-level when they reach free agency....but these are the names to track over the next couple of years
After Papsmear talked shtein before the game they hooked him up with a blown save
really nice result
pap blew the save, farg him, but phils still got the loss. need them all. atlanta right there.
phils bat andres blanco 4th and lose
braves beat the hottest team in baseball
2 up in the loss column
this should make up for the eagles
the reading machine won against last night....playing the o's farm team...15 minutes from my house
Quote from: MDS on September 15, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
phils bat andres blanco 4th and lose
braves beat the hottest team in baseball
2 up in the loss column
this should make up for the eagles
WTF last night? Braves had 20 hits.
Ethan Martin couldn't get out of the third fightins down 5-1
Asher rocked again
Sweeney down to a buck 72
Altherr down to .239
42 strikeouts in a three gamer is worst ever by the Phils
dont put altherr in the same breath as those 2 losers
jake thompson is again on fire with a no hitter thru 4 and nick williams has gone deep
4-0 reading
nick dub with an rbi single now chases the SP
bases loaded no out
5-0 in the 6th
looks like I might see a phillie title tomorrow nite!!
going to reading tomorrow? i can prob get you free passes to als diamond cabaret after, some 50 year old porn star is dancing. should be hilarious.
i may be in rdg sat night.
lol....no tonight tomorrow and sat if necessary are in bowie....I actually bought tickets for last Friday in reading but it farging got rained out and couldn't go sat
jp Crawford is now 10-20 with 6bb and zero k;s in the postseason.....this cat
look at this johnny come lately
been doin this shtein since you was suckin your mommas tit newb
3 months ago you were lukewarm at best on even jp
but you do you cuz
never lukewarm on jp....hes about the only one that i have any real confidence in right now...other than franco but hes not a prospect anymore
Quote from: phattymatty on September 17, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
going to reading tomorrow? i can prob get you free passes to als diamond cabaret after, some 50 year old porn star is dancing. should be hilarious.
i may be in rdg sat night.
what, no peanut bar ?
pos ben lively is a pos
huge loss tonight
a sweep should about clinch the 1
60?
so im off to try this again....if you can find line on it I suggest putting your house on bowie tonight
nick Williams and cam Perkins almost just came to blows
Clutch loss.
it really is....mackanin has to be in on it
he brought in farging jerome williams in a 1 run game for no reason....hes been a starter all year but 2 weeks into his bullpen life hes the set up guy. suuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
macphail magic
These jerks are still playing?
Partial Larry Bowa funhole video around the .20 mark
http://youtu.be/HyHK6TFZ3eY
mackanin back for 2016
80 it is!
its a fine move
obviously they arent going anywhere...and mackanin has shown he will be a subordinate goodie goodie and do what the front office wants. he'll get on board with the new gm/macphail and play the young bucks. cant ask for much more.
So he benched Odub for whining the other day.
You couldn't play for him, mds...you'd be released
so how awesome would it be if the phils actually hired (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/07/ipt/1215138895.jpg) as their gm
the wip crowd im sure will be very welcoming of an asian woman
If they win I don't give a farg
I want SDs thoughts on this
he would become a mets fan
lol
I can hear the WIP callers already...led by Innes
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
so how awesome would it be if the phils actually hired (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/07/ipt/1215138895.jpg) as their gm
Is that Laurie's new wifey?
look who's still a giant icehole....gee i wonder why they paid him to go away
http://deadspin.com/oh-hey-jonathan-papelbons-still-a-dick-1732771202
Lol ... Go Johnny go
How big of a douchebag does one need to be when Bryce Harper is involved and is the one I sympathize with?
hi
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPtFRmFVAAAmgAL.jpg:small)
Nice
Best moment of the year?
Eickhoff has made bitchmade ho look like a punk
Eliminate the Nats this weekend!
Altherr with the inside the park salami. One of the worst defensive plays I've ever seen. Nice job by Mr. 7/$126M backing that shtein up, though.
Altherr gets up in that ass again
I just caught the highlight of the itpgs online. The Nats are out-Phillie-ing the Phillies. NATITUDE!
big twitter moment for j
congrats bro
The minute I walked into the stadium this dude hit an inside the park home run. Then he hit another HR later. Also his at bat music is the price is right theme song which is badass. But I've never heard of him.
At one point I looked up and didn't recognize 5 of the 9 guys in the lineup.
Fun game though.
Quote from: MDS on September 25, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
big twitter moment for j
congrats bro
I don't get it. What are you talking about
Ruf's dinger was a bomb. Nice win overall. Sweep those fargs out of the playoffs.
I can't get enough of watching this play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6viyW2sGdNk
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.
Total misplay, but between the dive and the fact that he never touched the ball, the scorer will rarely call that an error.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 26, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
Looks like a single and an error to me, but they typically don't call that on a dive.
yea when it misses the glove, they dont call an error. typical all inside the park homers are via a brutal fielding play, so this is another.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 26, 2015, 01:37:36 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 25, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
big twitter moment for j
congrats bro
I don't get it. What are you talking about
gotta show all them dc boys who's boss, bo
Yes. Ok. Good post, pal.
It's been a while, but the last two innings for the Phils:
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only up 4 on the braves for the #1...shut up
@JClarkCSN: Phillies starters have given up 2 ER or less in 10 straight starts. First time theyve done that in 26 years..
magic number is at 2 to lockup the #1...biggest philly sports accomplishment since _____
since sproles punt return
A little beanballin
Cespedes hit and leaves with hand injury (uhh ohhhh)
Odubel just wore one in the back
Up and in to Rupp!!
He's a country strong shtein kicker so I'm pretty sure he'd win a fight
Benches to the top steps and warning track area
Robles and Collins ejected
j did you want them to win today
Indifferent really. I wanted to see some fights.
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?
I have this game on VHS somewhere. My grandpop used to tape them and mail them to me because I was living in Kansas.
I was a huge Pat Combs fan and of course Ricky Jordan and Kruk.
Late in the game there's the brawl between Combs and Doc - I read the inky archived article tonight and lol at the fine amount. Combs was fined $200.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1IqpFFW-k
One from 1989
Roger McDowell and Gregggggggg going at it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=B1PNt5iktGE
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Indifferent really. I wanted to see some fights.
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?
yes
i thought the game was in a rain delay but i think its just the worst game ever? twitter killing it.
Yeah it's pretty awful.
Like watching spring training.
J, that was awesome! Thanks! Dutch was going off on Coke Gooden. Who was that who tossed Strawberry to the ground? Good stuff J!
holy shtein i just looked at the streak column in the standings and the reds have lost 11 in a row....impressive tank job
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?
yes
im not very good at math but i think the magic number is three isnt it?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 01, 2015, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2015, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
If they lose one more and Cincy wins they clinch the 1st pick right?
yes
im not very good at math but i think the magic number is three isnt it?
this is correct...
you aren't very good at math
if the phils lose today and the reds win wont it be 3 with 3 to play?
or is it not a coin flip that determines the pick....in other words if they finish with the same record the phils get the pick?
just looked it up....it goes by the previous seasons record which would give a tie breaker to the fightins.....
math correct
knowledge of the rule incorrect
so its 1 more loss or 1 more braves win? i knew they had the breaker.
whens the last time a philly team had the 1? 1998 for the phillies?
braves is one...but reds are the team to be concerend about...that number is 2...altho neither team is passing them
i totally havent been paying attention to the reds....good god what an impressive tank job
phils winning right now - reds playing @ pitt which needs to hold off chicago for homefield
crap.
i was worried when i thought it was a coin flip....no way the phils blow this owing the tb
to have a chance reds would essentially have to finish the season on a 15 game losing streak....that would be amazing
its going to be down to 1 after today
according to espn the phils are starting: williams, harang and buchanan to close the season
they know what's up. also because of rain these games can just get canceled. that might be enough in itself.
Even when losing is winning Philly teams find a way to blow it.
Four straight now and it looks like the Reds are going to lose again today.
Just unreal.
reds 0-3
phils 1-2
or
reds 1-2
phils 0-3
neither of those scenarios are happening...be easy dook
I agree it's unlikely but if it were to happen would anyone here be surprised? Of course then the Phillies would get the 2nd (or even 3rd) pick and probably end up with the only bust in the top 5.
no i would not be the least bit suprised if all of the above happened
Quote from: Don Ho on October 01, 2015, 04:28:50 AM
J, that was awesome! Thanks! Dutch was going off on Coke Gooden. Who was that who tossed Strawberry to the ground? Good stuff J!
Yeah man and it was awesome to see that old Fox29 opening and then hear Harry...I'll watch the whole 2hr clip this weekend
I couldn't see them back then unless they played the Cubs or Braves. So I would be in the boxscores every morning and buying USAToday's Baseball Weekly to keep up with everything. SO my pops started recording games and every week I'd get a UPS package with 3 or 4 tapes.
Eickhoff with another gem
settle down...this game was a farce. and he was an organizational depth throw in in the trade. vance worley had a ton of gems in 2011.
hes likely a low end starter, but hes certainly earned himself a good look to be in the rotation of one of the worst teams in baseball next year. hip hip hooray.
Ok buddy, whatever you say.
The Mets weren't playing out the string. They have HFA on the line and still pulled a collective hammy during the series.
Irrelevant, though. The Phillies need to lose out to ensure the #1 pick. That's the headline.
So who again is the can't-miss Bryce Harper Jr. stud the Phils need to pick at #1 who definitely won't be around at #2?
there isnt one but again thats not the point....its awesome anytime your team can have a number one overall pick...even if its just a fan thing its still important
since 1950 philadelphia as a city has had four overall number one picks....the cleveland cavaliers have had three in the last five years
Exactly right.
meh. just seems like it'll make it worse when the #2 pick becomes a hall of famer and the phillies #1 pick spends most of his life in reading.
they could also pick second and the first overall could go on to be a hall of famer....at least with the one you controlled your own destiny....no one ever picks first and says afterwards man i wished we would have picked second so we didnt farg up the first pick....you just get killed for making a bad pick whether its at 1 or 17
i know the scenario is not the same but im sick of seeing the reemer vs kane erkel vs wall thing...as of now there isnt a gap like their was in those two scenarios but either way i dont wanna five years from now see the number one overall pick for the reds becoming a stud while the phillies second pick is trash and sitting there saying man if only they didnt choke away that pick to reds that year
also if hes worthy as the number one overall i want jason groome really bad...would be cool to get a local kid number one overall....plus he has the most upside of any of the guys at the top right now...also baseball is a different animal in that they play a whole season of their sport before the draft takes place....theres so much development to still take place...so its possible btwn now and next june that a guy emerges as a dominant prospect...maybe not bryce harperish but a far and away consensus number one overall...and if that happens you obviously want the one
yea i fundamentally dont see how it doesnt matter
its not as big as the nba or nfl where you can definitely get that HOF dude, but on what planet is winning a game this weekend going to accomplish anything?
http://www.si.com/cauldron/2015/09/30/jeremy-affeldt-san-francisco-giant-retiring-three-time-world-champion
QuoteThe City of "Brotherly Love"
Hang on, I know what you're thinking: Jeremy, do you have any idea how dangerous it is to insult the entire city of Philadelphia?! And yes, I know. I know all too well.
So first, let me be clear. Philly is a great sports town, with passionate fans and a palpable energy. The problem, though, is that the city, more than any other I've played in, seems to condone and almost revel in its fans crossing the line. Nowhere else in this country—again, based on my experience as a 14-year major leaguer and the conversations I've had with other players—is the opposition treated in such a repeatedly vile and borderline threatening manner.
We are out here to play a game, and even though we are paid handsomely to do so, professional athletes should not be subject to vulgarity, personal attacks or epithets. Sadly, in Philadelphia, this kind of fan conduct is far too typical. The irony is, while Phillies fans succeed in making many players dread traveling there, they also (not surprisingly) impact the decision-making process of those same players in free agency.
Sure, it's great to play for a rabid fan base, but after experiencing firsthand how powerful that fervor can be when it is channeling extreme negativity, it really makes you think twice about where all that collective anger comes from, and whether you want to subject yourself and your family to that all the time.
I'm sure he's not the only player to feel that way at the end of his career. And I doubt he'll be the last.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
http://www.si.com/cauldron/2015/09/30/jeremy-affeldt-san-francisco-giant-retiring-three-time-world-champion
QuoteThe City of "Brotherly Love"
Hang on, I know what you're thinking: Jeremy, do you have any idea how dangerous it is to insult the entire city of Philadelphia?! And yes, I know. I know all too well.
So first, let me be clear. Philly is a great sports town, with passionate fans and a palpable energy. The problem, though, is that the city, more than any other I've played in, seems to condone and almost revel in its fans crossing the line. Nowhere else in this country—again, based on my experience as a 14-year major leaguer and the conversations I've had with other players—is the opposition treated in such a repeatedly vile and borderline threatening manner.
We are out here to play a game, and even though we are paid handsomely to do so, professional athletes should not be subject to vulgarity, personal attacks or epithets. Sadly, in Philadelphia, this kind of fan conduct is far too typical. The irony is, while Phillies fans succeed in making many players dread traveling there, they also (not surprisingly) impact the decision-making process of those same players in free agency.
Sure, it's great to play for a rabid fan base, but after experiencing firsthand how powerful that fervor can be when it is channeling extreme negativity, it really makes you think twice about where all that collective anger comes from, and whether you want to subject yourself and your family to that all the time.
he deserves a nice "farg you, pal" as a retirement gift
Swell, first we get Chip the racist control freak and now this.
farg him. Did you hear the booing in Pittsburgh last night? Wasn't just at Scobee. Lot of it at Tomlin. Oh but they're just passionate. We're passionate psychopaths or so I'm told.
It seems like half of the actual sports fan violence (as opposed to half of the yelling at relief pitchers and calling them Romes) occurs in SF these days. Didn't Giants fans stab a Dodger fan to death not that long ago?
Affeldt should wear a Raiders (or Vikings...) jersey to the 9ers stadium and then re-write his stuff
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:49:05 AM
since 1950 philadelphia as a city has had four overall number one picks....the cleveland cavaliers have had three in the last five years
That is shocking. 4 franchises and only 4 number one overall picks among them in over 60 years.
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?
i think he has the third lowest post season era of any pitcher ever
the phillies last won a playoff series like 100 mass shootings ago
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?
i think he has the third lowest post season era of any pitcher ever
And yet I still don't care. Imagine that.
Also - http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2015/10/02/affeldt-wrong-about-phillys-impact-on-free-agents/
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Rome on October 02, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
The definition of a no-name second-rate journeyman hack criticizes Philly fans and we're supposed to give a farg why exactly?
i think he has the third lowest post season era of any pitcher ever
And yet I still don't care. Imagine that.
you care about something positive having to do with a non philly player....I can't imagine that
The comments he made about free agents being reluctant to sign in Philly because of the fans are patently false and easily refuted, hence the link I posted.
As for what you posted, I have no idea what the farg you're saying. It's clear you been hitting the bottle already, though. So yay for you, I guess.
I love the fact that philly fans are looked at as being the worst in sports...I revel in that shtein
that's why I posted it...it's a badge of honor...you thinking I was posting it to rip philly fans and then attacking the messenger by trying to make him seem he was a terrible player just shows how much of a massive homer you are
red legs lose
the collapse is happening
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 02, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
I love the fact that philly fans are looked at as being the worst in sports...I revel in that shtein
that's why I posted it...it's a badge of honor...you thinking I was posting it to rip philly fans and then attacking the messenger by trying to make him seem he was a terrible player just shows how much of a massive homer you are
Same. I don't understand why anyone cares and it is a badge of honor. Sure it annoys me when it's something minor and the national media blows it up but overall I wouldn't change our reputation for nothing.
Quote from: MDS on October 02, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
red legs lose
the collapse is happening
It certainly seems that way. Unreal.
THROW SOME BATTERIES AT SANTA CLAUS GUYS.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 03, 2015, 11:55:16 AM
THROW SOME BATTERIES AT SANTA CLAUS GUYS.
Only if it's J.D. Drew wearing the costume.
Losing 4-0 and now winning 5-4
Come on and lose
hinkie called giles, told him what to do
gotta love this. farg you cinci you worthless city.
cincy truly is a dump...had a great roadie there a few years ago but the downtown is pathetic
Clutch loss.
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen
now train wreck Asher....no way a team is going harang Asher b2b and not getting swept
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen
standing ovations for jimmy when he returned >
Quote from: MDS on October 03, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
1 more loss or 1 more redlegs win and the biggest phillies moment since chase utley's near homer in game 5 of the 2011 nlds will happen
LOL!
decent point....but if you're going to go there then maybe jp's ridiculous tag out at 2nd from last month trumps that
also, yes asher sucks. you cant complain about getting 1 usable arm out of the 2 throw ins they got from texas. the trade was really about thompson, williams and alfaro.
1
Ok now who is the pick?
groooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
unless bryce harper jr magically pops up, it needs to be the BAA
best arm available
I absolutely thought they were gonna blow it yesterday. I don't think I've ever cheered for a Philly team to lose before, so yesterday was a special one. Plus I made bank on Baylor/TTU yesterday and FSU won a nail-biter.
Excellent day all around sports-wise.
Jesse Biddle is having Tommy John surgery
first pick will either be University of Florida lefty A.J. Puk or Oklahoma pitcher Alec Hansen. They're both 6'7 and throw heat. All the tools to be an ace.
right now puk is in the lead
Riley pint and groooooooooome better than either one
Ichiro pitched the bottom of the 8th.
That was pretty cool
Mizerock and Nichols let go from the staff - everyone else offered contracts to come back
Attendance was 1.8m - lowest since 2002
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2015, 12:59:34 PM
right now puk is in the lead
Which is why I listed him first
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Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
Riley pint and groooooooooome better than either one
Don't think they're taking a HS pitcher #1, especially when many of the top-5/10 HS pitchers taken recently have struggled (plus they might be able to save $1M-$2M by taking a college kid then use that for higher bonuses elsewhere in the top 10). Think they go Puk and fast-track him like Nola for mid/late 2017. If he gets his control problems straightened out, he could be legit Randy Johnson dominant (and hopefully not a lefty Aumont)
i think making baseball draft predictions 8 months out is pretty silly
Quote from: MDS on October 07, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
i think making baseball draft predictions 8 months out is pretty silly
yeah they have a whole season to still play....so much can change....and it doesn't matter if a middle schooler is the clear cut number one prospect that's who the Phillies are taking
correct
phils take the BPA...if it turns out to be a bat, so be it. if hes 16, whatever. if hes 22, ehh, but fine. no decisions are even close to being made right now. this isnt andrew luck or lebron.
Maybe they can find another Castonzo or Greene??
come on youre smarter than that
Sometimes.
Joe Savery then?
Brien Taylor? A Coke head like Tampa seems to always draft? The Padres dude Bush who flamed out?