oh how i miss him, lol
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I'll be in Berwick hopefully watching this trainwreck at Ron Powlus' bar.
I think this one will be ugly. Hopefully for the skins but I honestly don't know yet.
Early line has the Eagles favored at 6.5, which seems high to me.
in the first video Vick is ashamed to even have to walk with him. ha.
I'm not comfortable with 6.5 either, but when was the last time Donovan showed up for a big game? I'm not ready to say the Eagles win yet, but I'm not too worried either.
Cannot wait for this game! The season starts sunday night!
And hopefully Killa welcomes McNabb back with alittle blindside lovin
If 5 decides hes gonna run like back in the day and pull out all the stops contain will be tough. if he wants to pout and stay in the pocket the eagles can get after him and create havoc. farging andy get the run game going - long possessions and keep 5 off the field like St Louis did the second half
He can't really run like "back in the day" so I'm kind of hoping he tries... with hilarious results.
True but even a few runs can gash the team. wonder ifn cap'n andy will put a spy on him. You have two believe this is the biggest thing for 5 and wilma this year. and the skins are desperate to win on several fronts
I am more or less convinced that his gutless ass will be injured and on the sidelines by the midpoint of the second quarter.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 27, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
I'll be in Berwick hopefully watching this trainwreck at Ron Powlus' bar.
My god, why will you be in Berwick? It either has to do with nuclear power, potato chips or animal husbandry.
My dad's home town, yo.
And animal husbandry.
Whatever happens, I don't see him leading the taterskins to a win. If they do win, the story will something like 'a return to form for Vick,' not 'McNabb makes a point.'
Quote from: Diomedes on September 27, 2010, 02:56:37 PM
Whatever happens, I don't see him leading the taterskins to a win. If they do win, the story will something like 'a return to form for Vick,' not 'McNabb makes a point.'
Depends on how Vick plays. If he plays as well as he has and they still lose thanks to the D, no one is going to claim he returns to form. And as bad as the Skins D is Vick should on paper at least have similar results.
I think the d played by the skins was a fluke against the rams and they completely mis-gameplanned for bradford and his abilities. they thought they were going to roll right in there and beat up a bad o-line and a rookie qb by playing a soft zone coverage.
problem was they underestimated bradfords ability to run accurate quick slants off and on the blitz too. I think this game with the eagles will be played entirely different from a defensive standpoint and the skins d-line, haynesworth on mcglynn especially, will be all over vick causing him to come back to earth.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 27, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
I'll be in Berwick.
lolololololololololololololololololololol
I didn't even know that Powlus had a bar up there now. When I lived in [gulp]Danville[/gulp] I'd occassionally stop in Orlando's....Bo Orlando I think was the owner's name. Some dude who played OL for the Bengals back in the 80's or something. Whatever.
Bo Orlando was a safety for the Oilers.
Orlando's Nightclub?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on September 27, 2010, 08:29:25 PM
Bo Orlando was a safety for the Oilers.
That might have been it. Thought I remembered seeing a Bengals jersey with his name hanging up in the joint. Haven't been in the place for about 10 years. Berwick sucks. That's the real point.
How loud will the boos be?
almost as loud as the sound of you furiously beating your dick when your hero appears on the screen.
LOL.
Truth be told, McNabb should be greeted with nothing but cheers because the bottom line is that the dude was the franchise QB for the most successful decade in team history and made some amazing plays, had some amazing games and gave fans plenty to cheer about. Sure, he didn't deliver a championship but neither has any other Eagles QB in the Super Bowl era. I'm glad the Eagles are going in another direction now but that still doesn't change the fact that he did a lot for the Eagles during his 11 years in Philly.
Of course, I have no doubt that we'll see the ugly side of Eagles fans when he comes out on the field. Too bad.
Wrong. The cheers should outweigh the boos, but that GQ interview alone deserves some hearty boos.
farg that assclown.
If players were booed and cheered based on comments they make in interviews, there'd be exactly 0 players getting cheered.
Fine. Boos it is, then. Or sodomy.
He should get a standing O.
And then boo him the rest of the game.
if by standing ovation you mean 70,000 people throwing batteries at him then i accept your premise.
Wrong answer.
Ingrate!
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ready... aim... FIRE!
Cheers during intros
Boos during game
Won't happen that way, but it should.
What I'd like to hear is dead silence when he comes out. That would be nice.
they should bring out carl winslow dressed up in a mcnabb jersey before player intros
consider it a practice run
I'd love to see the crowd laugh at him.
Nelson-style, or continuous laughter?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2010, 10:15:11 PM
Cheers during intros
Boos during game
Won't happen that way, but it should.
Yeah, SHOULD be that way, but unfortunately, you know there will be far too many dumb fargs out there to show the appreciation they should.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2010, 10:15:11 PM
Cheers during intros
Boos during game
Won't happen that way, but it should.
Yeah, SHOULD be that way, but unfortunately, you know there will be far too many dumb fargs out there to show the appreciation they should.
Absolutely, and sadly, correct.
He'll be ripped and booed louder than when 81 came back wearing a Dallas jersey.
I'm sure Cataldi and his minions are foaming at the mouth this week.
When you guys bone, who's the bottom?
for god sakes a week ago mcnabb was still bitching about philly saying it "will always be like that" and how he went thru 11 years of hell
mcnabb has at best held a grudge against eagle fans and at worst despised them...why would you ever show your like for someone who dislikes you...no one does that
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i don't see where the skins have the offense introduced where the crowd could focus on mcnabb good or bad. probably have the whole team come out where there'll be boos and cheers. not sure why anyone would be surprised by any boos, this isn't dawk coming back. this is a guy who didn't leave on the best of terms playing for a divsion rival for the 1st damn time.
if they thought hed get all cheers he would definitely be introduced
in general volume wise boos tend to show up more than cheers so i suspect it will sound worse than it really is...also in this case i suspect theres going to be a lot of people who like mcnabb more than they dislike him but wont cheer for him leading to the boos being more prevalent...
im guessing anti vs pro mcnabb crowd is in the 50/50 range...but that on sunday the anti mcnabb people will be much more front and center
No one cares.
someones salty they wont be there
all i know is it will be the first game ive gone in early for in more than five years
But you're picturing Wilma McNabb, right?
Seriously, as an Eagles fan, Donovan hates you. The only reasons he might give you a reprieve are that you don't root for all the Philly teams and you're black. Although, that could work against you, because cheering for the Eagles in and of itself is a black-on-black crime against him. So, you're pretty much back to square one that he hates you. The question is this... Why do you love him so much?
This has nothing to do with the thread, but EagleFeva I was wondering what is going on in your profile pic. I never saw that video before.
No...I'm picturing your mom.
And I don't "love him so much". I just don't see the need to rip him at every single turn...and I choose not to act as if he shot my first born like a lot of you do whenever he says something. I couldn't care less what he says. I just would like to see him shown some appreciation for being the biggest part of the best decade of Eagles football any of us have ever seen. Crazy, right?
Sorry, but the facts are that Andy is certainly the biggest part.
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Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:10:49 AM
No...I'm picturing your mom.
And I don't "love him so much". I just don't see the need to rip him at every single turn...and I choose not to act as if he shot my first born like a lot of you do whenever he says something. I couldn't care less what he says. I just would like to see him shown some appreciation for being the biggest part of the best decade of Eagles football any of us have ever seen. Crazy, right?
well we aren't burning his jersey at the tailgate so there. happy ? 8)
It's hard to give him credit for that because
a.) he failed so reliably whenever it counted most
b.) he's soft, which is perhaps just a restatement of a.)
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
Quote from: joneszilla on September 28, 2010, 10:08:47 AM
This has nothing to do with the thread, but EagleFeva I was wondering what is going on in your profile pic. I never saw that video before.
Just some girl getting thrown on her face. I thought it was hilarious a while back. Actually been thinking about changing it.
is it bad that it gets me aroused?
Quote from: Diomedes on September 28, 2010, 10:13:13 AM
It's hard to give him credit for that because
a.) he failed so reliably whenever it counted most
b.) he's soft, which is perhaps just a restatement of a.)
Then you'll have a hard time giving credit to every Eagle who played after 1960 because they're all guilty of "a".
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:20:42 AM
Quote from: joneszilla on September 28, 2010, 10:08:47 AM
This has nothing to do with the thread, but EagleFeva I was wondering what is going on in your profile pic. I never saw that video before.
Just some girl getting thrown on her face. I thought it was hilarious a while back. Actually been thinking about changing it.
The guy kind of looks like Junior Seau, I just didn't know why he was tossing her. it is funny though.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:25:45 AMThen you'll have a hard time giving credit to every Eagle who played after 1960 because they're all guilty of "a".
I think it's fair to restrict the discussion to quarterbacks. And I give the major ones more credit than McNabb, because they didn't shtein the bed every time it counted.
Was he the best Eagles qb by the numbers, yes. But it's not about numbers, it's about championships and, given much better chances at one than any of the other qbs since '60, he dissolved into a puddle of vomit.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
They can. That's up to you. They don't for me because I never liked Donovan because I thought he was a nice guy. I don't know the dude. I couldn't care less about that. shtein... I'm not a nice guy half the time. I like him because he was a helluva QB for the team that's on my mind more than anything for the past decade. It's also why I have absolutely no issues rooting for Vick. I don't give a shtein what these guys say, do, think, farg, kill or anything else as long as they help the Eagles win. That's what Vick's doing now...and that's what Donovan's done for more than a decade. I appreciate that. What I don't get is the need to act like a scorned girlfriend every time he says something that's not kissing peoples asses? Honestly...who gives a farg?
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
They can. That's up to you. They don't for me because I never liked Donovan because I thought he was a nice guy. I don't know the dude. I couldn't care less about that. shtein... I'm not a nice guy half the time. I like him because he was a helluva QB for the team that's on my mind more than anything for the past decade. It's also why I have absolutely no issues rooting for Vick. I don't give a shtein what these guys say, do, think, farg, kill or anything else as long as they help the Eagles win. That's what Vick's doing now...and that's what Donovan's done for more than a decade. I appreciate that. What I don't get is the need to act like a scorned girlfriend every time he says something that's not kissing peoples asses? Honestly...who gives a farg?
Right, but Donovan is a taterskin now and will most certainly never win the big one and even more certainly not for the Eagles. In Philadelphia, we boo the skins QB. All day long.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 28, 2010, 10:36:45 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:25:45 AMThen you'll have a hard time giving credit to every Eagle who played after 1960 because they're all guilty of "a".
I think it's fair to restrict the discussion to quarterbacks. And I give the major ones more credit than McNabb, because they didn't shtein the bed every time it counted.
Was he the best Eagles qb by the numbers, yes. But it's not about numbers, it's about championships and, given much better chances at one than any of the other qbs since '60, he dissolved into a puddle of vomit.
Why restrict it to QB's? They're certainly not the only factors in if a team wins a title or not. All these players have had hands in it. Coaches as well. There have been PLENTY of Eagles who've come up small in big spots. Respected ones too. People don't seem to remember that Westbrook had something like 19 y rushing in the SB. Dawkins was one of TWO Eagles to mistine their jumps and get beat out by Mushin Muhammad in the NFCCG. 18 other Eagles got dragged into the end zone in that same game. Teams win. Teams lose.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
They can. That's up to you. They don't for me because I never liked Donovan because I thought he was a nice guy. I don't know the dude. I couldn't care less about that. shtein... I'm not a nice guy half the time. I like him because he was a helluva QB for the team that's on my mind more than anything for the past decade. It's also why I have absolutely no issues rooting for Vick. I don't give a shtein what these guys say, do, think, farg, kill or anything else as long as they help the Eagles win. That's what Vick's doing now...and that's what Donovan's done for more than a decade. I appreciate that. What I don't get is the need to act like a scorned girlfriend every time he says something that's not kissing peoples asses? Honestly...who gives a farg?
Right, but Donovan is a taterskin now and will most certainly never win the big one and even more certainly not for the Eagles. In Philadelphia, we boo the skins QB. All day long.
You and I both know that if he was coming back in a Chargers uniform or something, we'd be having close to the same conversation. The jersey damn sure ain't "irrelevant", but it's not the real reason for the boos either.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on September 28, 2010, 10:13:13 AM
It's hard to give him credit for that because
a.) he failed so reliably whenever it counted most
b.) he's soft, which is perhaps just a restatement of a.)
Then you'll have a hard time giving credit to every Eagle who played after 1960 because they're all guilty of "a".
1-6 in championship games.....no qb ever much less an eagle qb has gotten so close and failed so miserably in big games than donovan
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
They can. That's up to you. They don't for me because I never liked Donovan because I thought he was a nice guy. I don't know the dude. I couldn't care less about that. shtein... I'm not a nice guy half the time. I like him because he was a helluva QB for the team that's on my mind more than anything for the past decade. It's also why I have absolutely no issues rooting for Vick. I don't give a shtein what these guys say, do, think, farg, kill or anything else as long as they help the Eagles win. That's what Vick's doing now...and that's what Donovan's done for more than a decade. I appreciate that. What I don't get is the need to act like a scorned girlfriend every time he says something that's not kissing peoples asses? Honestly...who gives a farg?
Right, but Donovan is a taterskin now and will most certainly never win the big one and even more certainly not for the Eagles. In Philadelphia, we boo the skins QB. All day long.
thats not at all why he will be booed....jason cambell was never booed...not any more than every other player that comes out of the visiting tunnel...to say mcnabb will be booed the same as every other taterskin is just not true
the fact is when you combine the choking aspect with him not liking his own fans to him being a douchebag in general the guy is just not very likeable...thats why there is going to be a lot of boos
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
you can give him credit for being the best qb in eagle history and still hate his farging guts...i dont know why those two things each cant stand on their own
They can. That's up to you. They don't for me because I never liked Donovan because I thought he was a nice guy. I don't know the dude. I couldn't care less about that. shtein... I'm not a nice guy half the time. I like him because he was a helluva QB for the team that's on my mind more than anything for the past decade. It's also why I have absolutely no issues rooting for Vick. I don't give a shtein what these guys say, do, think, farg, kill or anything else as long as they help the Eagles win. That's what Vick's doing now...and that's what Donovan's done for more than a decade. I appreciate that. What I don't get is the need to act like a scorned girlfriend every time he says something that's not kissing peoples asses? Honestly...who gives a farg?
I do find it funny that for a board full of tough guys most everyone here cares oh so much about how players say something and what they say. As long as the players on the team are not raping or killing people (dogs don't count) who the hell cares how they are off the field. Fans have this obsession with trying to prove scientifically why a certain player fails where another succeeds. It must be because of personality or how they sit on the bench or how they act in pre game.
Remember these guys are dumb as bricks. They say stupid things all the time even when they try to say the right things. When Vick talks now its funny to see him think before he speaks. Its extremely rehearsed. But who cares?
its amazing to me how people cant understand why fans might wanna like the people they root for...or how certain players are more likeable than others
i cant imagine just blindly watching sports like that and looking at and feeling about every player exactly the same just because they have a certain jersey on
an honest self analysis produces the realization that my interest in football the game and in the individual athletes who play it is in no way objectively more real or valuable than my wife's interest in celebrity gossip.
it's all just bullshtein entertainment
right...but even tho i feel the exact opposite i can understand not caring about pro athletes and see why people are apathetic about them
but on the flip side why cant people understand that dawkins is more likeable than mcnabb...and in general people root for not just teams but the players on them
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 11:27:58 AM
its amazing to me how people cant understand why fans might wanna like the people they root for...or how certain players are more likeable than others
i cant imagine just blindly watching sports like that and looking at and feeling about every player exactly the same just because they have a certain jersey on
Well, the simplest shtein seems to amaze you so I'm not surprised.
And I do like the guys I root for. I jut like them because of what they can do for my team. Not because of what they say or don't say.
and what did he do for your team?
won a bunch a games against a zesty division for years. played brilliant at times, awful at others. was 1-4 in NFCCG, 1-3 when he was the favorite. and he played like shtein in the superbowl
He did win a lot of games he should have!
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2010, 11:41:25 AM
and what did he do for your team?
won a bunch a games against a zesty division for years. played brilliant at times, awful at others. was 1-4 in NFCCG, 1-3 when he was the favorite. and he played like shtein in the superbowl
Simply put, he led the team that gave me a whole lot more good Sundays than bad. Do I wish they'd won a SB in that time? Damn straight! But I'm not gonna act like all those good years of football didn't happen when I think about the guy. I'm also not gonna act as if he was the only person who had a hand in those failures.
As frustrating as those playoff/SB losses were... It could have been worse. Go ask a Lions, Browns or even a Skins fan if they would trade their team's last decade for yours.
feva is on point here.
What did he do? Well do you think that they would have been close to those championship games or super bowl without him? Perhaps they should have drafted Ricky? Or better yet - Akili Smith or Cade McCown?! Or maybe they should have traded the icehole in 2003 after he failed to beat Carolina and had his ribs cracked? Or definitely after the super bowl loss. Probably would have been better off with a journeyman like Jeff Garcia.
What did he do? Ridiculous question.
Yeah he's such a soft batch punk. Ooooh he said mean things about the fans! Grow a set. Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans front runners and was lambasted. We all talk shtein - Philly fans more often than many - but when it's thrown back it's like all he broke loose.
11 years of being relevant in the NFL. 11 years of watching good footbal.
Did we see a championship? Nope. And it farging sucks but to ignore what mcnabb did because of what he said or perceived slights is farging retarded.
11 years of close but no cigar.
you think that's success, i think it's not good enough.
It WAS success for the first 5-6 years.
It's the last 5 or 6 years that flipped it into epic failure.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
It WAS success for the first 5-6 years.
It's the last 5 or 6 years that flipped it into epic failure.
so is it ok to like mcfluffy based on the first 5-6 years ?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
Well do you think that they would have been close to those championship games or super bowl without him?
this a joke?....have you seen the list of qb's that have made championships and superbowls?....nfl is mad watered down now...you dont need a great qb to get to superbowls...or even win them
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans front runners and was lambasted. We all talk shtein - Philly fans more often than many - but when it's thrown back it's like all he broke loose.
wow ive officially heard it all now...putting donovan in the same breath as one of the biggest MEN in philly sports history...youve said some crazy things thru all this but this is one you cant ever come back from...jimmy rollins got killed for what he said...but he took it like a man didnt hold it against the fans...i dont think its possible to have two guys on more opposite ends of the respect meter
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
11 years of being relevant in the NFL. 11 years of watching good footbal.
yay for good football!
Quote from: smeags on September 28, 2010, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
It WAS success for the first 5-6 years.
It's the last 5 or 6 years that flipped it into epic failure.
so is it ok to like mcfluffy based on the first 5-6 years ?
Uh, I guess. If somehow you are able to select-all, delete the last 5 years from your memory.
I mean the dude was my favorite player for years, but you can only choke on it so many times in big situations before you wear out your welcome. His propensity for deflecting blame and whining didn't really help the situation.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
I mean the dude was my favorite player for years, but you can only choke on it so many times in big situations before you wear out your welcome. His propensity for deflecting blame and whining didn't really help the situation.
get out of my head.
No.
one of my all time favorite sports moments was being at fed ex when donovan ankled mark carrier...i think after that game he was my favorite athlete in the city
but that was a lot of chokes and a few thousand pouty and passive aggressive fits ago
but i guess because donovan is better than brad geobel we should all love him forever
If you don't have undying admiration for 5, you're a fleshpop. Do I have that right, Feva/Phreak?
IGY, you're so lovable. I mean that. I wanna take a bubble bath with you.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 28, 2010, 12:28:14 PM
IGY, you're so lovable. I mean that. I wanna take a bubble bath with you.
1st sensible post in this thread.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
If you don't have undying admiration for 5, you're a fleshpop. Do I have that right, Feva/Phreak?
Not in the least... other than the part about you being a fleshpop.
well you could say that in every post.
I try to.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
If you don't have undying admiration for 5, you're a fleshpop. Do I have that right, Feva/Phreak?
WTF I don't get mentioned in that love fest?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
feva is on point here.
What did he do? Well do you think that they would have been close to those championship games or super bowl without him? Perhaps they should have drafted Ricky? Or better yet - Akili Smith or Cade McCown?! Or maybe they should have traded the icehole in 2003 after he failed to beat Carolina and had his ribs cracked? Or definitely after the super bowl loss. Probably would have been better off with a journeyman like Jeff Garcia.
What did he do? Ridiculous question.
Yeah he's such a soft batch punk. Ooooh he said mean things about the fans! Grow a set. Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans front runners and was lambasted. We all talk shtein - Philly fans more often than many - but when it's thrown back it's like all he broke loose.
11 years of being relevant in the NFL. 11 years of watching good footbal.
Did we see a championship? Nope. And it farging sucks but to ignore what mcnabb did because of what he said or perceived slights is farging retarded.
Well the big difference between JRoll and Donnie Poonanny is jewelry. I think there are a lot of people like myself when it comes to McNabb, used to be big supporters but got tired of his excuses and lack of play in big spots. With him it seemed to get worse as he got older in both regards.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 28, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
If you don't have undying admiration for 5, you're a fleshpop. Do I have that right, Feva/Phreak?
WTF I don't get mentioned in that love fest?
You don't rate. The difference is that I respect many of their other opinions. You - not so much.
Quote from: SunMo on September 28, 2010, 11:41:25 AM
and what did he do for your team?
won a bunch a games against a zesty division for years. played brilliant at times, awful at others. was 1-4 in NFCCG, 1-3 when he was the favorite. and he played like shtein in the superbowl
I don't know what the Vegas numbers and all that were, but in no circumstances should the Eagles have been favored against either the Rams or the Cardinals. Both were 'miracle' type runs and both teams were overall better than the Eagles. 1-2 in games favored.
they weren't favored against the rams, they were favored against the Bucs, Panthers, Falcons, and Cardinals.
and who cares if you think they should have been or not against the Cardinals, forgetting Vegas making them a favorite, everyone and their mother expect the Eagles to go in there and win.
Of all the NFCC games they lost, the Cardinals one was the most winnable and the one in which Donovan was most personally responsible for the loss. The offense should have put up 50+ in that game easily. The Bucs and Panthers games were much more total team losses, especially the Bucs game in which both offense and defense just got straight-up dominated all game. Then again, Donovan did throw THREE picks to RICKY MANNING JUNIOR against the Panthers, so maybe he's pretty accountable for that one too.
I certainly thought they had the chance at the time, which was no doubt my homerism kicking in....but looking back on that game, do you really think the Eagles were the better team?
They were a 9-6-1 team that had no business being in the playoffs, let alone the NFCCG. They just happened to get hot at the right time late in the season and sneak into the playoffs.
Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier in one of the last games of the year. They were definitely favored, as they should have been.
Quote from: Munson on September 28, 2010, 03:09:30 PM
I certainly thought they had the chance at the time, which was no doubt my homerism kicking in....but looking back on that game, do you really think the Eagles were the better team?
They were a 9-6-1 team that had no business being in the playoffs, let alone the NFCCG. They just happened to get hot at the right time late in the season and sneak into the playoffs.
The cardinals were a much better team at 9-7.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 03:08:21 PM
Of all the NFCC games they lost, the Cardinals one was the most winnable and the one in which Donovan was most personally responsible for the loss. The offense should have put up 50+ in that game easily. The Bucs and Panthers games were much more total team losses, especially the Bucs game in which both offense and defense just got straight-up dominated all game. Then again, Donovan did throw THREE picks to RICKY MANNING JUNIOR against the Panthers, so maybe he's pretty accountable for that one too.
two things.
1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable, and also the one that, had they won, would have almost certainly led to a SB victory over that joke of a team Oakland. But come on...The Bucs, at home, in under 40 degree whether in which they had never won, and a team that the Eagles had just beat up on the year before in the playoffs, with an aggressive D and a statue-target at QB in Brad Johnson....THAT was the year.
2. McNabb also took a cheap shot in that game. He choked no doubt, but to put the blame mostly on him is wrong. His best RB was hurt and his #1 WR was JameS Thrash. Also, the Panthers secondary raped the Eagles WR's so bad that it helped lead to a rules change/illegal contact penalty added the next year.
Quote from: Munson on September 28, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable
I think I stopped reading right there. No. The Bucs got hot at the right time and the Eagles were in their way. In fact the Bucs of 2002 were exactly what the Eagles of 2008 should have been.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 03:12:21 PM
Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier in one of the last games of the year. They were definitely favored, as they should have been.
It was on thanksgiving which was like 7 weeks prior, and I definitely remember all the talking heads talking about how much a different team the Cardinals had become in that time. Which is true.
Warner and Fitz and the rest of that team were on another level by the time the NFCCG rolled around. That was their high water mark. The Eagles was the week 17 demolishing of Dallas.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 03:12:21 PM
Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier
exactly...even i thought they were going to beat the cardinals
eagles had the better team but not the better qb....which is kind of the whole point here
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 28, 2010, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Munson on September 28, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable
I think I stopped reading right there. No. The Bucs got hot at the right time and the Eagles were in their way. In fact the Bucs of 2002 were exactly what the Eagles of 2008 should have been.
False. The Bucs had the best D, but the Eagles had the 2nd best D (at least in PA) and many considered the Eagles O that year better than the Bucs. It was the Bucs, at home, last game at the Vet, in cold weather which the Bucs had never won in. That was the year. Period.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 28, 2010, 03:12:21 PM
Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier
exactly...even i thought they were going to beat the cardinals
eagles had the better team but not the better qb....which is kind of the whole point here
Cards also had the better WR's and the better coach.
Being 0/3 in those elements when you're a pass-first team is not good.
Besides 9-7 is so much better than 9-6-1 it's not even funny.
im sure theres a youtube video out there that proves munsons right
If only there were a youtube video that proved you were dead.
lolz@ the bucs game was the most winnable.
Quote from: MDS on September 28, 2010, 03:38:39 PM
im sure theres a youtube video out there that proves munsons right
everyone else in the world being wrong is proof thats hes right
Yes IGY, you = the rest of the world
going into each of those NFC Champ games I had 0 confidence in the Rams game, thought no way they would lose to the Bucs, very little confidence against the Panthers without Westbrook, and though they would beat the Cardinals but was still scared about Fitz.
they all crushed me but the one that hurt the most was the Bucs one. its also the one i think McNabb lost mostly by himself.
Really? It was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure a lot of people were extremely confident that the Eagles were going to beat the Bucs.
^^^^^Spot on
McNabb, and to a lesser extent Reid, choked hard as farg in that Bucs game. That was their year, not only to win the NFC but the SB, and they blew it.
I also thought they could/would beat the Cards, but if you took non-Eagles fans and asked them, it was probably a 50/50 split on who was favored in that game. And in hindsight I don't know how anyone could say the Eagles were the better team and got beat by the lessor team. The Cardinals were better, period.
I can't wait to see McNabb smile after Samuel picks him off.
personally i am hoping he has a reason to display his leadership skills on the sidelines as his team is getting trounced.
They should farg with him and trade for Ronde Barber
and Ricky Manning Jr.
freddie mitchell is still looking for work.
i can't believe you guys are still arguing over that dipshtein.
i will say that i haven't looked forward to a regular season game as much as this one in many moons. i hope they completely destroy the taterskins and send mcdickhead to the morgue.
the end.
QuoteDonovan McNabb said on his local radio show that he expects to be cheered by Philadelphia fans when he returns with the Washington taterskins to face the team Sunday he played on for 11 seasons.
McNabb, who was famously booed by Eagles fans on draft day, holds no illusions about how the notoriously hostile Eagles fans will treat him once the game starts, saying he expects a warm reception to only last "until the whistle blows and the game starts."
On his weekly radio show on Washington's ESPN-980, McNabb said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News, "Honestly, I think I will be more cheered. No matter what the situation is, right now I'm with a different team and it's a rival and it wasn't my choice. We had a successful 11 years. We had a lot of exciting plays and obviously some down times, but there were more exciting things in 11 years."
He added that he hopes fans will acknowledge that he never asked to be traded and it was the team that chose to trade him to the rival taterskins.
Although the topic has been a constant conversation piece since the moment Week 3 ended, McNabb says he's focusing on preparing for the game and hasn't given thought to what his emotions might be like for the return.
"Everyone else that I've talked to has and rightly so. I've been on the other side of the tide with other guys who have come in, Brian Dawkins, Troy Vincent and the list goes on, Jeremiah Trotter ...
"I think in this situation, I'll be open-minded at what happens ... Everyone wants to know how I feel, my emotions. I really can't answer that. Right now, it's just focusing on playing against the Philadelphia Eagles. I would have an answer for you during the game about my emotions and how I felt during the game. I'm all in here in Washington and looking forward to turning things around."
i hope trent cole tears mcnabbs acl
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2010, 05:38:04 PM
i can't believe you guys are still arguing over that dipshtein.
i will say that i haven't looked forward to a regular season game as much as this one in many moons. i hope they completely destroy the taterskins and send mcdickhead to the morgue.
the end.
POTY finalist
Quote from: Rome on September 28, 2010, 05:38:04 PM
i can't believe you guys are still arguing over that dipshtein.
i haven't looked forward to a regular season game as much as this one in many moons.
hmmm
re: the Jimmy Rollins comment
I was talking about when he called Phillies fans front runners. Everyone got all butt hurt about it. The notorious tough Philly fans took it on the chin and cried. Dish it and take it. Hell, I was one who agreed with him and thought the treatment he got was asinine. But all was forgotten eventually
McNabb says stuff and is ripped and kicked in the ass on the way out of town.
everyone knows what you are talking about...and no one cried....they went off on jimmy....jimmy took it like the man he is and in the end is beloved by the fans...same as schmidt and jaws...two players that got destroyed for years by fans and now are loved....some people can take it and get it and some dont
the bedwetter clearly doesnt
I, for one, think we should all give the Donnie the mad credit he deserves for not being the one who initiated his trade to another team, as he requested today. High fives all around!
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3120/foxmap2week4.png)
Suck it, Jacksonville.
Glenn Beck just looked at that map and peed with excitement.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs230.snc1/7732_1240016320987_1246659021_30715154_246825_n.jpg)
Having lived in Cali for 2 years now I can honestly LOL at the perception that it is a highly liberal, non-religious oriented state. You want liberals, go to the Bay Area. But the rest of the state loves them some Jesus and hates gays just as good as Texas.
and including delaware (munson) and west of montco on there is laughable
farg once you get into bucks its starts getting fishy
Gotta love Todd's narrow view of the world. Learned from the finest (fattest)
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2010, 09:21:11 PM
Having lived in Cali for 2 years now I can honestly LOL at the perception that it is a highly liberal, non-religious oriented state. You want liberals, go to the Bay Area. But the rest of the state loves them some Jesus and hates gays just as good as Texas.
That's true in every blue state. Hell, look at PA. That's a red state, with Pitt and Philly carrying the day.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 28, 2010, 09:21:11 PM
Having lived in Cali for 2 years now I can honestly LOL at the perception that it is a highly liberal, non-religious oriented state. You want liberals, go to the Bay Area. But the rest of the state loves them some Jesus and hates gays just as good as Texas.
LA loves them some Xenu.
I have no doubt that McNabb is a closet Republican.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 29, 2010, 07:33:14 AM
I have no doubt that McNabb is a closet Republican.
because it supports your theory that hes dumb as a rock?
More like he's a selfish idiot. Can't you see him, a black man from Chicago, pulling the lever for McCain over Obama? I sure can.
Plus, it will help him get caked off by Danny Snyder.
i think hed vote for mccain to show he isnt a running quarterback
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 29, 2010, 07:52:10 AM
i think hed vote for mccain to show he isnt a running quarterback
I laughed.
Scouts Inc says McNabb is way better than Vick. (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/19164/scouts-mcnabb-vick-tale-of-the-tape) Let's debate this shtein.
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Arm strength: Edge: McNabb.
stopped reading then puked
vick probably has the strongest arm in the history of the league
QuoteHe can make any throw asked of him and excel in poor weather conditions.
I agree. McNabb does an excellent job of throwing with his whole body, and he certainly has a gun. But, Vick reminds me of Randall Cunningham (in this way among others) in that he can basically flick his wrist and throw the ball 50 yards. His natural velocity is off the charts impressive.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 29, 2010, 07:33:14 AM
I have no doubt that McNabb is a closet Republican.
Why would this be a surprise? Most NFL players vote Republican.
McNabb is great at 20+ yard throws. Anything under that gets sketchy. I really haven't seen any difference in Vick so far. Years past he was hit or miss short or deep. There really is not enough evidence for the case. At the end of the year we will now what kind of QB Vick is.
Quote from: smeags on September 29, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
QuoteHe can make any throw asked of him and excel in poor weather conditions.
they probably arent counting humidity as a poor weather condition
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Sam Donnellon: Debate on McNabb has simply relocated
By Sam Donnellon
Philadelphia Daily News
Daily News Sports Columnist
ST. LOUIS - We may all die of natural causes without a definitive answer, the way husbands and wives argue their realities until death do they part. Was Donovan McNabb a great quarterback inside of flawed systems or a flawed quarterback inside of great systems?
This was the year we were supposed to find out once and for all about our soon-to-be-34-year-old prodigal son. Or at least get some big hints.
New taterskins coach Mike Shanahan wasn't allergic to running the ball the way Andy Reid was, won a couple of Super Bowls thanks as much to Terrell Davis as John Elway.
That was the party line.
Shanahan would balance the run game with the pass game and thus improve the Donovan game.
That was the game plan. Anyway that's what we were told. That's why Shanahan stockpiled big-name running backs in the offseason, sprinkled some prospects onto his practice squads. That's why he traded for McNabb. He would show us the folly of Reid's stubborn ways. He would help establish the greatness of 5, once and for all.
So here comes Donovan for the much anticipated homecoming this week, and what do you think is all the talk in Washington? Red-zone woes, Shanahan's abandonment or lack of patience with the run, struggles on third down.
And Donovan. The man. The myth.
McNabb passed for 236 yards Sunday, eclipsing John Hadl for 19th place on the NFL's all-time passing list. Despite two straight losses - both via second-half comebacks - he has passed for 833 yards this season, has completed more than 60 percent of his throws.
But his team is 1-2 and in both losses he had the ball in his hands late with a chance to reverse its fate. And as he said Sunday, "When you put yourself in a position where you can change the outcome, you have to do that."
After an opening-night shocker over the Cowboys, Washington has lost the second half two Sundays in a row, and the games, too. St. Louis only overcame a 16-14 deficit, but Houston scored the game's last 16 points to shock the 'Skins in overtime 2 weeks ago, in Washington.
Seems the taterskins couldn't run the ball effectively against the Texans, could not salt away time and the victory. McNabb threw for 426 yards. The taterskins rushed for 18 yards.
Sound familiar?
McNabb has thrown the ball 102 times already this season. He has two touchdown passes. The taterskins failed to score a touchdown in three trips to the red zone vs. St. Louis, although McNabb did connect with Santana Moss for a 21-yard score. It's a brief and incomplete comparison, but Michael Vick has been inside the 20 eight times this season, and the Eagles have seven touchdowns. He has six touchdown passes.
Of McNabb's passing yardage, another 56 came on a beautiful pass to Moss on the first play of the second half that set up the taterskins with a first down at the 8-yard line.
It resulted in - you guessed it - a field goal.
Three straight runs netted 5 yards.
The taterskins were 1-for-10 on third down, continuing a seasonlong pattern. Red zone, third down, "It's just being on the same page," McNabb said. "There were a lot of miscues. No excuse. If it was a holding here, whatever it might have been . . .
"We just have to understand what happened and come out next week ready to make a change."
McNabb completed five of six passes for 49 yards during a final meaningless drive that ended on the Rams' 30 as the clock expired. It followed a much more meaningful drive that ended with McNabb throwing a pick under pressure, breaking a streak of 145 attempts without one.
It was a bad throw at a bad time, a panic play really, and it led to a field goal that iced the game for the Rams. Fair or not, it conjured up all the negative karma of his last few years in Philly, the dispersal of blame afterwards, the debate over whether he was a great quarterback in a flawed system, or the opposite.
As he comes our way for the first time in a different uniform this Sunday, the debate lives, and so do all the defenses. More weapons are needed. More balance to those games within the game.
Burgundy, Midnight Green, it really doesn't matter. After a dozen years of it, we're married to the guy, and to the debate.
Til death do us part.
Didn't know that stat about the Eagles redzone efficiency, pretty awesome.
Also, the one time Vick didn't get a TD, he should have. He could have strolled into the end zone but instead attempted to squeeze a pass in to DeSean.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 29, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
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Arm strength: Edge: McNabb.
stopped reading then puked
vick probably has the strongest arm in the history of the league
I've never seen Vick even put any effort, or have to, in his deep balls. Its really effortless.
Quote"Andy spent 11 years developing Donovan," said Ravens coach John Harbaugh, a former Eagles assistant. "He knows the guy better than he knows his own wife. That should come in handy."
...and certainly better than he knows his kids.
just be nice to donny see we all look better in trent dilfer's eyes because that's what's important.
QuoteHe added that he hopes fans will acknowledge that he never asked to be traded and it was the team that chose to trade him to the rival taterskins.
I don't want to think thats true.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 29, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
I agree. McNabb does an excellent job of throwing with his whole body, and he certainly has a gun. But, Vick reminds me of Randall Cunningham (in this way among others) in that he can basically flick his wrist and throw the ball 50 yards. His natural velocity is off the charts impressive.
When did Cunningham ever "flick" a pass. He had the longest throwing motion ever. On of the raps on him was his poor release. Randall took a full wind up whether he was throwing a short out, or chucking one downfield.
Vick has the qualities you speak of, but Randall did not.
Im not being a fleshpop, but you're off on that comparison.
yeah i don't remember randall having anything close to a quick release. in fact his mechanics were an issue when rhodes went with the WCO but he did look like he wasn't even putting much effort into his throws when he went long.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 29, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
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Arm strength: Edge: McNabb.
stopped reading then puked
vick probably has the strongest arm in the history of the league
Yep. Vick can throw the ball 50+ yards off his back foot just flicking the ball. His arm is the strongest I've ever seen. Columnist must be a dog lover.
Poise: Edge McNabb
Have to question that one too. How does this guy define poise? Donavan was hardly a rock in close hard fought contests. In those games I was looking for someone like Westbrook, or the D to carry the day, not Donny.
Vick circa 2006 was clearly inferior to McNabb circa 2006 as an overall QB. Vick was one of the most inaccurate QBs around. He was great at running and throwing the ball extremely hard at no one. Vick was probably the most overrated player in the league before he got caught electrocuting dogs... amazing physical talent, but lazy and prone to sloppy execution.
Vick has been better so far this season, but he played shtein teams and there is a lot a season left. Has he actually gotten serious about his life and career, and matured as a QB? The story of who is better in 2010 has yet to be written.
Quote from: Wilbert on September 29, 2010, 06:20:59 PM
Poise: Edge McNabb
Have to question that one too. How does this guy define poise? Donavan was hardly a rock in close hard fought contests. In those games I was looking for someone like Westbrook, or the D to carry the day, not Donny.
You have to respect the way he bounced back and played after Rush Limbaugh's hurtful comments. Most guys would fall apart mentally after an ordeal like that.
I wish I could drown & electrocute all of you.
Quote from: Wilbert on September 29, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 29, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
I agree. McNabb does an excellent job of throwing with his whole body, and he certainly has a gun. But, Vick reminds me of Randall Cunningham (in this way among others) in that he can basically flick his wrist and throw the ball 50 yards. His natural velocity is off the charts impressive.
When did Cunningham ever "flick" a pass. He had the longest throwing motion ever. On of the raps on him was his poor release. Randall took a full wind up whether he was throwing a short out, or chucking one downfield.
Vick has the qualities you speak of, but Randall did not.
Im not being a fleshpop, but you're off on that comparison.
i think what ff means is that both throw the ball in such an effortless manner
Relatively, compared to McNabb or Favre or someone like that, yes.
Memory lane (or jacking material for Phreak) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/476683-an-ode-to-number-5-the-5-greatest-games-by-donovan-mcnabb-in-an-eagles-uniform#page/1)
http://www.phillygameday.com/2010/09/espn-in-chaos-after-video-of-fans-booing-mcnabb-goes-missing/
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
Memory lane (or jacking material for Phreak) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/476683-an-ode-to-number-5-the-5-greatest-games-by-donovan-mcnabb-in-an-eagles-uniform#page/1)
4 regular season games a game against an uninterested and possibly hungover mike vick
what a legacy
Not as funny as it could have been. The Onion should have done it.
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
Memory lane (or jacking material for Phreak) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/476683-an-ode-to-number-5-the-5-greatest-games-by-donovan-mcnabb-in-an-eagles-uniform#page/1)
4 regular season games a game against an uninterested and possibly hungover mike vick
what a legacy
Pretty sure if you did the best 5 games of any QB's career they would include regular season games. I think it was best games in terms of stats, of what the game meant at the time, and not the best games in terms of far they went in the playoffs. Otherwise it would be the 4 games that led to NFC Champ games and the one where they won.
Its funny most of those games were early in his career. I remember thinking at the time he was going to be a clutch QB....boy was I wrong.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 30, 2010, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
Memory lane (or jacking material for Phreak) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/476683-an-ode-to-number-5-the-5-greatest-games-by-donovan-mcnabb-in-an-eagles-uniform#page/1)
4 regular season games a game against an uninterested and possibly hungover mike vick
what a legacy
Pretty sure if you did the best 5 games of any QB's career they would include regular season games. I think it was best games in terms of stats, of what the game meant at the time, and not the best games in terms of far they went in the playoffs. Otherwise it would be the 4 games that led to NFC Champ games and the one where they won.
so even though when you think of the best mcnabb games you think of the regular season, we now get to remember games that led to games that they lost and the one game that they won that led to another game that they lost.
but he threw for a bunch of yards against the cardinals so hes the greatest qb in eagles history
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 30, 2010, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
Memory lane (or jacking material for Phreak) (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/476683-an-ode-to-number-5-the-5-greatest-games-by-donovan-mcnabb-in-an-eagles-uniform#page/1)
4 regular season games a game against an uninterested and possibly hungover mike vick
what a legacy
Pretty sure if you did the best 5 games of any QB's career they would include regular season games. I think it was best games in terms of stats, of what the game meant at the time, and not the best games in terms of far they went in the playoffs. Otherwise it would be the 4 games that led to NFC Champ games and the one where they won.
I'm still a McNabb fan but I couldn't disagree with you any more. First off, I can think of quite a few playoff games for Elway, Montana, Young, Favre and Aikman that were off the charts awesome. Even if you were to exclude the Super Bowl, each one of those QB's has at least 3 great playoff games.
As for McNabb, he was horrible in each of his playoff losses, but he doesn't really have many truly noteworthy playoff performances even in the post season games he's won and there aren't really any playoff games that come to mind where he undoubtedly made plays at the end of the game to win it other than the Green Bay 4th and 26 game....he gets a lot of credit for coming up big at the end of regulation and OT and it's basically his best playoff performance imo.
He's had a couple other decent games, but nothing that he did in those games really "wows" anyone. When you look back at the stats from each of his playoff wins, you notice a lot of pedestrian numbers. Granted, you can give him credit for not throwing a bunch of picks, but at the same time there isn't a single post season performance of his that I would rank in the top 20 of best playoff performances by a QB.
other than 4th and 26, which was more of a defensive meltdown than some kind of heroics from mcnabb, i cant think of anything memorable he did in the playoffs.
and its not like he didnt have the chances.
but wait! andy's play calling sucked! and the receivers weren't good! and the defense blew the game! of course!
he was great in that Packers game, including 4th and 26, remember the spin out of KGB's sack attempt and the Pinkston td throw? he was really good that game.
I <3 Pinkston
the jan 2010 dallas game was a wonderful performance
Quote from: SunMo on September 30, 2010, 05:45:49 PM
he was great in that Packers game, including 4th and 26, remember the spin out of KGB's sack attempt and the Pinkston td throw? he was really good that game.
so good that he needed a lucky fluky play to just get it into OT and a typical favre late game crumble mush brain interception to win it
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
the jan 2010 dallas game was a wonderful performance
actually this was one of the few if not the only really big game where he was great. though its possible he didnt even know a playoff berth was on the line until after.
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
the jan 2010 dallas game was a wonderful performance
actually this was one of the few if not the only really big game where he was great. though its possible he didnt even know a playoff berth was on the line until after.
Wha?
Don't try and understand him.
Why do people say "try and understand?" Obviously, you mean, "try to understand." Simp.
No, I meant "and."
You don't mean half of what you say, you just like to say lots of it.
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 30, 2010, 05:45:49 PM
he was great in that Packers game, including 4th and 26, remember the spin out of KGB's sack attempt and the Pinkston td throw? he was really good that game.
so good that he needed a lucky fluky play to just get it into OT and a typical favre late game crumble mush brain interception to win it
he was good, the defense was terrible, i think the packers had 4000 yards on the ground and chewed up the clock. but you're right, don't credit him for anything, ever.
lol seriously. Everything McNabb has ever done good has been due to the other parts of team, or not good enough. Everything bad that he's done has been completely 100% his fault and no onus needs to lay with the surrounding cast or the coach at all. Okay.
Finally, he gets it.
So, he plays a team game or something? Odd.
McNabb started the AIDS epidemic. But in his defense, he thought it would be a hilarious joke.
And it was! But like all McNabb's jokes, he pushed it until well after it stopped being funny.
Quote from: SunMo on September 30, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 30, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 30, 2010, 05:45:49 PM
he was great in that Packers game, including 4th and 26, remember the spin out of KGB's sack attempt and the Pinkston td throw? he was really good that game.
so good that he needed a lucky fluky play to just get it into OT and a typical favre late game crumble mush brain interception to win it
he was good, the defense was terrible, i think the packers had 4000 yards on the ground and chewed up the clock. but you're right, don't credit him for anything, ever.
i will be forever bitter over his
1 2 3 4 5 disgusting playoff losses and general embarrassingly unfunny personality
he can rot in hell with his fat attention whore mother
the fact that his personality is easily way worse than his big game choking really shows how annoying of a human being he really is
so does the fact that hes arguably the best qb of all time for a franchise thats been around for almost 80 years yet isnt liked that much
Philly fans are really being villainized more than anyone else this week. It's much more annoying than usual.
I don't care about the national media pushing their stereotypical and old Philly fans suck storyline. I've gotten so used to it that I'm numb at this point.
The thing that bothers me right now is the myth that is being perpetuated about McNabb's treatment in Philly for 11 years. McNabb was treated very well and was well liked by the vast majority of Eagles fans until the last 2-3 years, and there are valid reasons for why people disliked him on a personal and professional level that are conveniently being overlooked. He was booed and he was criticized, but no more than he would have been in any other city with actual fans. He was hardly spat on and ruthlessly treated here.
Whatever, poor Donovan. I can't believe he was treated so badly. It's a wonder he didn't hang himself. Give me a farging break.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
Philly fans are really being villainized more than anyone else this week. It's much more annoying than usual.
this is an actual quote from vonnie holiday today in the waspo:
"It has to mean a lot," said taterskins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday, who has been in the NFL one year longer than McNabb. "You talk about a guy who did so much for an organization. He was the face of that franchise for 11 years. . . . As much criticism as he received throughout his tenure there, year in and year out, when you turn the TV on and it's playoff time, the Philadelphia Eagles, they were in the talk. Donovan McNabb and what he's done there, he's respected around this league." who the flying farg is vonnie holliday??
mcnabb was in philly for over 1400 days...how many of those days was vonnie in philly for?
like vonnie holliday is farging daniel okrent and philly is the emerald chessboard
i generally dont care what people say about philly and its fans...in fact i most often embrace it...but when this farging douche bag doesnt know the first thing about mcnabbs career in the city spouts off because he has a mic in his face the week of this game it makes me sick
but even more than that it disgusts me that people around the country actually think donovan was treated badly here...he was godlike for the first half of his career...and liked a lot for all but possibly the last couple years of his career...and even at the height of dislike it wasnt like he was run out of town...the vast majority just knew it was time for a change
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 30, 2010, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 30, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
Philly fans are really being villainized more than anyone else this week. It's much more annoying than usual.
but even more than that it disgusts me that people around the country actually think donovan was treated badly here...he was godlike for the first half of his career...and liked a lot for all but possibly the last couple years of his career...and even at the height of dislike it wasnt like he was run out of town...the vast majority just knew it was time for a change
This is exactly what I'm saying. It's the one thing that is really bothering me this week.
Haven't read most of this thread but honestly, I just read that Cataldi is setting up some big thing to boo the crap out of McNabb and really? I mean, REALLY?
:boom
Did Donovan farg Cataldi's mom or something? Let it go.
It's literally the only time his name ever gets mentioned/remembered anymore, so he's trying to capitalize on it by doing it again. Douche bag in every sense of the word.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 30, 2010, 11:18:20 PM
Haven't read most of this thread but honestly, I just read that Cataldi is setting up some big thing to boo the crap out of McNabb and really? I mean, REALLY?
:boom
I read something on the Phils MB about how he "fired" Shoulderpad Shaun from The Dirty Thirty because he wouldn't go along with whatever this clown was setting up.
What the hell is he going to do?
What a putz.
haha how great is cataldi
pretty much a gawd
No
"I don't like Donovan McNabb, because I always felt he was a phony," Cataldi told CBSPhilly.com. "He's always been passive-aggressive, which doesn't resonate well with the fans of this city. That's my problem with him. He never connected to the fans in this town. They only wanted one thing from McNabb, a championship. Look at those great Flyers teams of the 1970s. They won championships and never had to buy another dinner in this town again. With all that talent, McNabb never delivered."
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 01, 2010, 03:55:30 PM
"I don't like Donovan McNabb, because I always felt he was a phony," Cataldi told CBSPhilly.com. "He's always been passive-aggressive, which doesn't resonate well with the fans of this city. That's my problem with him. He never connected to the fans in this town. They only wanted one thing from McNabb, a championship. Look at those great Flyers teams of the 1970s. They won championships and never had to buy another dinner in this town again. With all that talent, McNabb never delivered."
Nail.
Head.
farg you Phreak.
P.S. Even Sam and Wilma are bitch-made. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20101001_McNabb_s_parents_won_t_be_at_Eagles-taterskins_game.html)
how in the world is wilma mcnabb turning down a chance to have the spotlight on her
Cataldi isn't even from Philadelphia.
shut the farg up, you transplanted nothing.
IGY, you have issues with people not from Philly, yet you love this douche.
Cataldi is a bombastic douche, yes.
But is he wrong about McNabb being phony, passive-aggressive, or not winning a championship?
Is he any less honest than Cataldi? They both so fake they should come in a box from China marked Sorny.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
IGY, you have issues with people not from Philly, yet you love this douche.
SAY WHA!?
Quote from: General_Failure on October 01, 2010, 04:12:42 PM
Is he any less honest than Cataldi? They both so fake they should come in a box from China marked Sorny.
damn pg HATES cataldi
He's a fake. He's even worse than McNabb because he tries to pass himself off as everything Philadelphia. He's nothing like Philadelphia. NOTHING.
He's not fat?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 01, 2010, 04:22:23 PM
He's a fake. He's even worse than McNabb because he tries to pass himself off as everything Philadelphia. He's nothing like Philadelphia. NOTHING.
true
but hes a trouble maker and calls things out when they need to be done
sometimes it backfires and you get a mcnabb being booed at the draft situation, but overall its generally necessary and in the least entertaining
Speaking of icehole radio hosts... Freddie Mitchell on with Eskin at 4:40.
Strahan says that McNabb is bad about tipping snap counts/plays. I sure hope so.
Quote"Dirty 30" reunite to welcome McNabb home
Posted by Mike Florio on October 1, 2010 3:29 PM ET
In 1999, WIP host Angelo Cataldi recruited a group of Eagles fans who took a bus trip to New York with the goal of welcoming to the franchise running back Ricky Williams, the player that they wanted the team to take with the second pick in the draft. When they instead picked quarterback Donovan McNabb, the so-called "Dirty 30" made their displeasure known.
Loudly.
Eleven years later, McNabb is returning. And Cataldi is rounding the "Dirty 30" up again. Though Cataldi says that the intent in 1999 wasn't to boo McNabb but to cheer Williams, Cataldi acknowledges that, this time, the goal is to boo McNabb.
"I don't like Donovan McNabb, because I always felt he was a phony," Cataldi told CBSPhilly.com. "He's always been passive-aggressive, which doesn't resonate well with the fans of this city. That's my problem with him. He never connected to the fans in this town. They only wanted one thing from McNabb, a championship. Look at those great Flyers teams of the 1970s. They won championships and never had to buy another dinner in this town again. With all that talent, McNabb never delivered."
But Cataldi regrets that the "Dirty 30" booed McNabb when the group first convened.
"We didn't intend to do anything wrong, we really didn't," Cataldi said. "We weren't driving a 100 miles both ways to boo the newest Eagle. Now as I wind down my radio career, [I'm going to be remembered as the guy who got 30 big fat puking drunks together to boo McNabb -- not as an articulate journalist who contributed something."
The group plans to march down Pattison Avenue in Philly and convene at the steps of the Spectrum. And once the fans assemble in Lincoln Financial Field, we think that a lot more than the "Dirty 30" will be booing McNabb.
what a bunch of farging Hoydas still following the clownmaster - who would like to be remembered as "an articulate journalist who contributed something." - 0 for 3 right there, tool.
Freddie is firing off
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 01, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
Strahan says that McNabb is bad about tipping snap counts/plays. I sure hope so.
could be because he never changes the snap count. Although I have to say I did notice him change cadence to try and get an off sides a couple of weeks ago, probably for the first time in his career.
FredEx in a nutshell: Donovan sucks because he never got far enough in his progressions to throw me the ball.
Well, we found someone who is a bigger clown than McNabb OR Cataldi.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 01, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
FredEx in a nutshell: Donovan sucks because he never got far enough in his progressions to throw me the ball.
Well, we found someone who is a bigger clown than McNabb OR Cataldi.
found?
i am tempted to go over and toss food scraps & eggs at the dirty 30 like we used to do the to visiting buses.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 01, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
FredEx in a nutshell: Donovan sucks because he never got far enough in his progressions to throw me the ball.
That's because the last time a pass was completed to Mitchell, McNabb had to run around behind the LOS for 14 farging seconds to wait for Freddie to get open.
i wish dick cheney would take freddie mitchell duck hunting.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 01, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 01, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
FredEx in a nutshell: Donovan sucks because he never got far enough in his progressions to throw me the ball.
That's because the last time a pass was completed to Mitchell, McNabb had to run around behind the LOS for 14 farging seconds to wait for Freddie to get open.
Freddie talked about that. Said he was open after 3 seconds.
Everything Cataldi says about McNabb is true, and yet I still feel that going to the game with intent to boo is dumb. Like, Dallas air guitar dumb.
Quote from: smeags on October 01, 2010, 05:14:58 PM
i wish dick cheney would take freddie mitchell duck hunting.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7396/mcnabbeagleskin.jpg)
holy shtein
<-------------
Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
lol at the logo
Barkley said he was going to the game and wearing a McNabb taterskins jersey.
The opinions are split more than I thought between the boo/won't boo groups. A lot of national people are saying he will be cheered and thanked for his years as the Eagles QB. ahahahaha, yeah right. What are they thinking?
this shtein is getting bumped on every page...
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7396/mcnabbeagleskin.jpg)
They've been playing cuts of callers throughout the week on 97.5 on NFLN and its embarrassing to listen to.
Good god, we have some idiot fans.
Mike Miss has been parading the haters all week. I like him but his hatred and obsession with McNabb is on CF levels.
Dude was teh best QB in franchise history, he didn't with the SB like every other player in Eagles history, now he's not on the team. Why does it matter what he says in interviews again?
4:15 can't get here soon enough.
Sabol does a pretty good job summing up the relationship between McNabb and Eagles fans (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-gameday/09000d5d81b0124a/Sabol-s-Shot-Not-always-sunny-in-Philadelphia)
Unfortunately it starts off with Cataldi's idiots booing the draft pick.
ESPN has already shown that clip at least three times this morning alone.
Oh, and they managed to coax a few meatheads in the parking lot into booing on cue with Sal Pisshole leading them on.
* SWELLS WITH PRIDE *
lol at Sal Pisshole
Game comes on at 1:15 in Cali. I'll let you know how it turns out.
taterskins announced that they will introduce the offense individually.
OMGDRAMA
Inactives:
Kafka
Harbor
Austin Howard
Teo
Joique Bell
Trevard Lindley
Antwan Barnes
Trent Williams inactive for the Skins
Stephon Heyer gets to try to block Killa all day...
Standing O for 5....
Nice. :yay
Where'd they show it?
They havent yet.
Read it from the beat guys on twitter
And they said it on FOX
Yeah they just showed Vick and McNabb hugging.
I put WYSP on my ipod but too late for the intro.
Glad he got the ovation he deserved. Now I hope he gets buried in the grass by Cole.
go farg yourself national media.
There were like 4 blocks in the back on that punt return :boom
Yeah, they missed some calls there.
And a solid farging start by Mikell
fargbags
Unreal.
QUINTIN MIKELL YOU fargING SUCK
horsecollar AND gets trucked
See how awesome McNabb is when he doesn't have to throw the ball.
Mikell just got trucked. Jesus/
Quote from: Munson on October 03, 2010, 04:19:06 PM
There were like 4 blocks in the back on that punt return :boom
You could hear me screaming across the ocean? Bullshtein non flags there.
typical mcnabb drive there
Wonderful start.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
taterskins came to hit today
Jorrick Calvin take a farging knee
I 'm going back to the phils game.
Eagles getting trucked left and right.
Stellar start.
I am getting pissed.
Andy Reid
Reid to McNabb: See, I can run the ball
yo j how bout my boy kolb now sucka
can't find the game - isn't it on FOX? I just see this team in green and white running the ball.
Looks obvious already. Reid seems to be, once again for all our pleasure, over thinking this game. Instead of just doing what's worked in the last couple weeks, he's going to go in a different direction to show his smarts.
not a worm burner but there he is being 5
Hey defense and Mcjerkoffdermott....STOP THE RUN
ITS CLINTON fargING PORTIS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Someone buy that man a Butterfinger!
LOL, Donnie misses wide open TE for probable td
Hey a stop! A tackle for loss! OMG
farging iceholes on defense need to step the farg up
wtf, has Asante become the tackling coach?
Embarrassing.
Seriously?
Defense again.
CLINTON 86YEAR OLD PORTIS
Yup, it's 2010 and the Eagles still can't tackle, stop the run, or play special teams.
Did Asante lead the tackling drills all week?
farging defense is horrible. farging arm tackles, horrible angles. This is going to be a blow out or a shoot out.
lmao... look at Sims trying to get off blocks. It's bad.
Fire Sean McDermott
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 04:34:45 PM
farging defense is horrible. farging arm tackles, horrible angles. This is going to be a blow out or a shoot out.
I'm thinking blow out...sigh.
eagles getting smoked early
great play by stewart bradley
another win for the eagles homers
McDermott needs to go. This is inexcusable.
MUTHERfargIN AWFUL!!!!
Lesson Reid is learning from this game: Never go run-heavy again.
Well, we'll see how much Vick "has learned/matured/etc" cause they are going to be throwing the ball from this point on. Excellent farging gameplan all around here.
This shtein happens way too often.
Fire people. Get the iceholes OUT
Typical novice opinion to blame McDermott. How about getting some real players in there? I don't know... like finally investing in a LB?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
This shtein happens way too often.
Fire people. Get the iceholes OUT
lol
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Typical novice opinion to blame McDermott. How about getting some real players in there? I don't know... like finally investing in a LB?
Oh yeah, McDermott's hands are totally clean here. farg outta here with that shtein. He sucks
Oh, he's out there tackling and can't get off blocks or cover down field?
Yeah... that's completely on McDermott.
Riley Cooper has a concussion and will not return
They only have 3 WRs left
Wow Shady
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
Riley Cooper has a concussion and will not return
They only have 3 WRs left
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tbbBo5gDRlg/SwVvL9rtm3I/AAAAAAAAAsI/ewsQJC6OtCw/s1600/norm-47151755bc9c8-Jaws%2B(1975).jpeg)
COOOOOPER!
So Shady is pretty good huh
Go for it.
Short yardage
Add that to the list of shtein these fargin jerks have not fixed yet
If they don't go for it here I hope they lose.
Go for it
Great call. They get it 100% sure of it.
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Typical novice opinion to blame McDermott. How about getting some real players in there? I don't know... like finally investing in a LB?
Hey, you farging dipshtein - have you watched every game this season? His defensive gamplans have been horrible. His adjustments haven't been much better. His blitzes are predictable and - wait. Got sucked in again. I make myself and everyone else worse off by acknowledging your presence. As you were.
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 04:45:07 PM
If they don't go for it here I hope they lose.
Point made.
at least they didn't get hosed by the ref this week with the spot
total PI
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Typical novice opinion to blame McDermott. How about getting some real players in there? I don't know... like finally investing in a LB?
Hey, you farging dipshtein - have you watched every game this season? His defensive gamplans have been horrible. His adjustments haven't been much better. His blitzes are predictable and - wait. Got sucked in again. I make myself and everyone else worse off by acknowledging your presence. As you were.
Listen little man, you couldn't name one thing specific he's done wrong in the games. You are just spouting out BS to back up your bias. I beg you to try and dispute my claim as you will only fall short(as per usual).
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 04:47:50 PM
total PI
Agreed. Don't know how they missed that, he was being tackled before the ball arrived.
Missed calls on the PR earlier and a total blown PI call on Celek
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Come on , Birds.
Punch this shtein in
Shady has some farging moves
Time for the Kevin Kolb show.
yay, penalty, vick hurt
Oh my.
HOLDING
and Vick is hurt
OH my god
Seriously?
May have broke his collar bone.
lol Eagles get the penalty, and Vick is hurt
Looks like he just got the wind knocked out of him though. Landed chest/throat first on the ball.
This is about as interesting as it could get.
also looked like it could have been a TD without mjg holding
Kevin Kolb woooooooooooooooooooo
what, they didn't boo kolb??!!
QB controversy over.
Bullshtein call on the hold.
I cant believe this
The game could not have started worse.
Penalties, no tackling, wide open taterskins, penalties, Vick hurt
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Those bets about how many times Kolb will be shown should be paying off now.
So the consensus is 6-10 again?
Plllease just let it be the wind knocked out of him
Nice kick Akers! He belted that thing.
Quote from: Munson on October 03, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
Plllease just let it be the wind knocked out of him
I thought I saw him clutching his arm in pain when he was laying on the ground. Is his wind in his arm?
I think it's his ribs.
Going to the locker room.
He broke something. Ribs or collrbone
Can somebody please take out deangelo hall's face. farging twat.
He's done.
Yeah, he's definitely farged up. He's walking gingerly as shtein. Let's find out if Kolb can run the team, I guess.
A tackle!!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 04:53:15 PM
I cant believe this
The game could not have started worse.
Penalties, no tackling, wide open taterskins, penalties, Vick hurt
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nothing new. Typical birds performance of late in big games
Announced as a rib injury and his retunr is questionable
CLINTON PORTIS IS KILLING THESE BUMS
Seemed like the ribs. at first I thought he was clenching his arm too but then he used the same arm to try and pull his shoulder pads away from this throat like he couldn't breath.
I love watching the taterskins running backs cut back.
WORMBURNERZ!
McNabb completes one to his favorite receiver, the Linc grass.
Have these bums woken up finally??
Go defense.
Nice defense, jerkoffs.
The answer is NO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
Kurt Coleman blew it.
farg THESE fargING funholeS
WTF was that? Why is some icehole named Anthony Armstrong wide open?
Nice to see how bad the birds want it.
About to be 21-3
UNREAL
unprepared and untalented
Somebody kill Kurt Coleman.
Gee, and I thought the Lions and Jags were really good.
I haven't heard Joselio Hanson's name in three weeks.
HOW IS THAT NOT A PENALTY?!?!
Why are all these iceholes trying to tackle up high?
lol, donnie still thinks he can run
minor victory
17-3
why are these guys playing so zesty? I think I may have a goddamn stroke watching this shtein
Only a fg but the birds are just getting their ass handed to them. Not worried though as I have complete confidence that this coaching staff will make the right adjustments.
Mike Vick - ribs - questionable
Riley Cooper - concussion - out
Jorrick Calvin - shoulder - questionable
The Skins are knocking these iceholes out
Body bag game if this keeps up.
I think it's gonna be Kolb's team again, at least for a while. So now Kolb gets to make his real debut:
1) Down 14 points
2) Against McNabb
3) In high winds
4) Having been undermined by the coach
5) Having the locker room behind another QB as the starter
This worked out well.
That was a good play. Wonder if AR drew it up that way.
kolb looking sharp
Great farging start
Come on!
Great throw there. Put everything he had into that one :-D
lol Mike Bell
Why is Mike Bell on this team?
nice job Smitty!
Nice play Fullback of the Week!
Michael Jack!
peters was way overdue to have a penalty negating a 1st down
Shady looks real good this year.
Does anyone have better jukes in the NFL than McCoy right now?
Was wondering if Peters was playing...
At least Shady came to play.
(http://spartyon.fantake.com/files/2010/09/Barry-Sanders-alternate.jpg)
A guy that claims to have sources on another board says x-rays are negative and Vick will return.
big 3rd down here, need a td
At least Shady's come to play...
Kolb's style seems to be to hold onto the ball a while, run backwards in fear, and throw it to someone around the line of scrimmage.
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 05:20:07 PM
A guy that claims to have sources on another board says x-rays are negative and Vick will return.
I hope that's right, both for the Eagles and for my fantasy team. I pulled a Reid and just dumped Kolb for Vick two weeks ago.
Shady's knee just blew up. Nice.
Seriously?
The Eagles are making the Phillies look like they had 0 injuries this year.
That ain't nothing, looked a little winded.
Finally get something going and Shady gets hurt. Typical.
Seriously... can this get any worse?
Bell in the goalline offense just fills me with hope.
At least Bell managed to fall forward for positive yards. That's really all you can ask of him at this point.
Wasn't close at all. No TD.
all farging game long they have been about 1 inch short of a 1st down/or td. where the hell is duce staley
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 05:27:55 PM
Wasn't close at all. No TD.
Yep. Looked like he was about a foot or so short. With Vick, I think Reid goes for it. With Kolb, I'm guessing FG.
Ok, shotgun, qb up the middle. They won't expect it.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 05:29:03 PM
all farging game long they have been about 1 inch short of a 1st down/or td. where the hell is duce staley
All 300 pounds of him are in street clothes on the sideline.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 05:29:03 PM
all farging game long they have been about 1 inch short of a 1st down/or td. where the hell is duce staley
Somewhere with a dinner buffet, I'm guessing.
farg it. Schmitt up the middle.
could be play of the game coming up here
eagles cheerleaders should have little pink patches over their cooters for breast cancer awareness
wow, andy didn't burn a TO to decide what to do there.
LOL, He just took one before I could hit post. It's not like he only had a 2 minute booth review to decide.
I'm OK with burning timeouts on 4th down with 23 seconds left in the half.
What the farg is this horseshtein?
Un.
farging.
Real.
Uh?
Jesus farg how horrible is Reid's time management.
Troy Boy is saying it was the Refs fault
Does this shtein happen to any other team?
This is out right pathetic. farg these cork sucker refs. Fatty should be killing these iceholes.
Poor Kolb still doesn't have a TD under his watch this year. Guy must have touchdown blue balls after that motherfarging horseshtein.
All referee fault there.
Unfargingrealllllll
I have never seen such farging shtein. ever.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 05:36:12 PM
Does this shtein happen to any other team?
According to ES, it happens to the taterskins every single play.
Oh lets hear mr. Ref suck ass on FOX defend these pricks. Good for Buck calling these fools out.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
All referee fault there.
Unfargingrealllllll
you trying to tell me this happens to belichick?
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 05:36:12 PM
Does this shtein happen to any other team?
The birds of the late 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's. Why should the 10's be any different.
farg blaming the refs. They just had a farging 10 minute booth review. Decide what the farg you want to run if you don't get it and line the farg up and run the farging play!
I'm farging TIRED of this bullshtein!!!
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
All referee fault there.
Unfargingrealllllll
you trying to tell me this happens to belichick?
In that exact same situation, yeah, I think it would. The refs blew it on that one.
My prediction was looking pretty good until Kolb took 8 minutes for one friggin' drive. Dammit, Kolb!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
All referee fault there.
Unfargingrealllllll
you trying to tell me this happens to belichick?
In that exact same situation, yeah, I think it would. The refs blew it on that one.
farg that. All it took was Andy to think: "If we don't get this, then we're doing _______...."
Instead, he got caught with his pants down... Again.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 03, 2010, 05:40:42 PM
farg blaming the refs. They just had a farging 10 minute booth review. Decide what the farg you want to run if you don't get it and line the farg up and run the farging play!
I'm farging TIRED of this bullshtein!
So are we Feva, so are we.
Was the spot of the ball moved as a result of the review?
No, they decided to move it because making Andy look stupid is funny.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 03, 2010, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 05:37:20 PM
All referee fault there.
Unfargingrealllllll
you trying to tell me this happens to belichick?
In that exact same situation, yeah, I think it would. The refs blew it on that one.
farg that. All it took was Andy to think: "If we don't get this, then we're doing _______...."
Instead, he got caught with his pants down... Again.
exactly, Jimmy Johnson said as much
I think Reid had a play ready but then the refs moved the ball and probably botched the QB draw or whatever he had planned.
I think the refs probably gave them three points there. Reid would have called something completely stupid, like a flea flicker, and got nothing.
farg YOU ERNIE SIMS
Referees embarrassing.
Now THAT bullshtein is on the refs!
What's up with the Mexican referee? Those goddamn illegals TOOK ER JERBS!
That could be the back breaker. 3 and out was huge. More bullshtein.
Refs only slightly worse than the run defense.
Good to see McNabb has that same devil may care attitude towards timeouts.
Quote from: Munson on October 03, 2010, 05:57:17 PM
What's up with the Mexican referee? Those goddamn illegals TOOK ER JERBS!
He looks like Jim Kelley.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 03, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
Good to see McNabb has that same devil may care attitude towards timeouts.
.
Fatty's legacy.
He sounds like Carlos Ruiz when he's making the call.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 03, 2010, 05:58:13 PM
Good to see McNabb has that same devil may care attitude towards timeouts.
Reid wasn't the only one conducting those famous 2-minute offenses.
Another to add to the death list is Mikel. Would you like it gift wrapped?
How much $$$ do you think they have on Washington?
DRotY?
Nate Allen! Hell yeah!
Nate Allen gets it.
Why you running to the sidelines nate? TAKE IT TO DA HOUSSSSSE
Allen=Ball hawk
BALLHAWK
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
Kolb's style seems to be to hold onto the ball a while, run backwards in fear, and throw it to someone around the line of scrimmage.
Definitely the style.
Kolb can't plant his feet. He is always going backwards.
kolb looks bad
So now we get to see what it's like when the opposition shuts down Desean and Maclin.
As someone posted earlier, seems like Kolb drops back, gives up after his 1st read, then backs up 3 steps before throwing it at the feet of whatever receiver is closest to the LOS
His POS arm and poor decision making almost just got him picked off.
Kolb's just not seeing the field.
Need screens and Shady to win this game.
A+ for Allen, Akers and Rocca.
F - for the rest.
Schefter says speculation is Vick may have a hairline fracture of his collar bone.
Rocca has been really good this year.
Get off the farging field defense.
More worm burners.
Ha. Samuel.
When Joe Buck calls you out you got issues.
Asante is awful. But we knew that
Hey look!
NO FLAG! WOW.
That probably was PI and they don't call it. Hah
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 06:08:07 PM
Schefter says speculation is Vick may have a hairline fracture of his collar bone.
Was it his right side? This can't be good.
Mike Bell is a goddamn abortion
farg HIM
The taterskins came to play today. The Eagles came to pat them on the asses
The right side was the one he seemed to be favoring more.
Why challenge? Skins will get the ball back soon anyway.
Alberto Riveron needs to farging break his farging neck
Jason Peters too
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:16:39 PM
Alberto Riveron needs to farging break his farging neck
Jason Peters too
Who's the kid they snatched of someone's practice squad at RB? WOuldn't mind seeing him active over Bell next week. Bell gives this team nothing.
smitty player of the game
Schmitt!!!
YEah
Owen Schmitt = legend
How can we give Peters back? There's got to be some kind of stipulation in the contract like "if you suck we have the right to............."
Ha. I like this kid.
Lets gooooooooooooooo Kolb!!!!!!!!
Lets farging score here
Gotta make a play
Michael Jack.
If only the Eagles would start Kolb, Schmitt, and Cooper and run the offense around those guys, they'd definitely win for sure.
Celek is a manbeast
Yeah! Celek!!
Move the chains, Captain Checkdown.
haha, Captain Checkdown.
Teflon Don, Checkdown Kevin.
Fumble. Game over.
Oh farg me
COME ON MCCOY
Thats a fumble
shtein.
this game is farged
Sweet Shady.
Good work by Peters too who stares at that and doesn't try to get it.
Yeah, pretty much the game at this point.
The other CF must love this development. Not only is Kolb in there, but he's getting all the other white guys involved.
Def Skins ball after that.
farging iceholes
This referee is awful and slow
Watch the defense get WALKED down the goddamn field by Old Man Portis
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:25:15 PM
This referee is awful and slow
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Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:25:15 PM
This referee is awful and slow
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LOLLOLOLOLOL awesome
ERNIE SIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMS
farging bullet ass motherfarger
Ugly punt but the damn bounce goes their way.
COME ON KEVIN FRANCHISE!!!!!
need a quick td. how about using jackson - is maclin alive?
Pretty sure Buck and Aikman are going to refuse to do any more Eagles games this year, after the two turds they've gotten to call.
There is just no vertical offense with Kolb in.
Do Andy and Marty know that they are losing 17-6?
Do they know its almost the 4th quarter?
DO they know the down and distance?
fargKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The line has blocked pretty well today. Kolb just refuses to plant his feet and throw.
So do they go out and get a QB in free agency next year or draft one early?
I can make a sandwich in the time it take Kolb to get the ball and then throw it. Just awful. I guess they were hoping that by this point he would be more adjusted, or the line more solid, or he's just going to be that way in his career. But he needs to be more decisive. Throw it, run with it, or throw it away. Christ.
They have to call some quick throws downfield. Don't give Kolb time to do any thinking, just plant and throw deep, covered or not. If it gets picked, it gets picked, but they can't win this game without even attempting big plays.
They are terrified of having Kolb sit in the pocket. Calling all runs and screens.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 03, 2010, 06:31:48 PM
The line has blocked pretty well today. Kolb just refuses to plant his feet and throw.
While I wouldn't say they've blocked well, they certainly have given him the 3 seconds he needs to drop back, make the quick decision that we were all told he was great at making, plant, and throw. Instead he's been afraid to get hit and has McNabb's happy feet but about 39 times worse.
Of course they had to show that. farg fox.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
Do Andy and Marty know that they are losing 17-6?
Do they know its almost the 4th quarter?
DO they know the down and distance?
fargKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
1. No
2. No
3. Hahaha
Yeah because Shoulderpad shteinhead wis who i need to see right now.
farg this game
lol joe buck "that's what you get"
Once again making the retarded assumption that the 30 idiots there booing him represented the fanbase as a whole when it came to their opinion of drafting McNabb.
Does Kevin Kolb know who DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin are?
THROW THE GODDAMN BALL DOWN THE GODDAMN FIELD YOU farg
Asante just got concussed
or another stinger
like when he did it to Barber last year
Does Samuel release he has arms when he tackles?
Hey DeSean, do you want to get injured too? Everyone else of consequence on this team is.
so happy to see that Hoyda samuel get hit in the head because he didn't try to wrap up.
That pass was McNabbulous.
Whew!!
Now...
PLAY
SOME
fargING
OFFENSE
ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHOLES
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Hey DeSean, do you want to get injured too? Everyone else of consequence on this team is.
probably because he hasn't been of consequence today
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Hey DeSean, do you want to get injured too? Everyone else of consequence on this team is.
probably because he hasn't been of consequence today
To be fair, neither has Samuel.
Props to Aikman for calling that shtein out. Almost as if to tell Buck to STFU in a way.
farg, there was your shot kolb
Kolb.
KOLB.
farg YOU BITCH
Jesus Christ Kolb.
Good run, jerkoff
Well, that about the best shot you can expect to get today, and you missed it by a mile. Nice first down run by him at least....
Impressive run......Sage Rosenfels approves.
lol jags over indy 28-21 in 4th
HOLDING
again again again
WTF
Apparently only the Eagles hold.
Someone tell Kolb he doesn't need six pump fakes.
Why when the Eagles run the ball is it RIGHT UP THE ASS OF THE OL????
They're a terrible offensive line. They only chance they have at giving a QB time is to hold and hope they don't get caught.
This is comical.
This whole game has just been painful to watch.......someone end it.
WTF was that
I feel like I want to puke
is kolb ever getting past is 1st read? he looks really nervous
Go for it, why the farg not
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2010, 06:44:50 PM
They're a terrible offensive line. They only chance they have at giving a QB time is to hold and hope they don't get caught.
I agree but they've had time today. Kolb just refuses to plant his feet and throw.
Maclin was wide open
Way to get it done, Kolb
If this is what we're going to get from Kolb, this team is farged for the future. With Vick, they might finish with a winning record, and maybe sneak into the playoffs, but no chance whatsoever with Kolb.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:45:27 PM
I feel like I want to puke
You want to puke in the 4th quarter? I'm not the only one making the connection here, am I?
kolb has a bright bright future
Clutch Stew. Clutch.
chrissakes bradley, make a play
Farg! That was an easy farging pick!
Dropped INT + that first down should be game.
The funny thing is all this is that McNabb is playing pretty much like shtein today too, but his zesty is worlds and worlds better than Kolb's.
Good work determining that refs.
getting hosed all day by the refs on top of things
Quick Poll:
Will Kolb complete a pass over 25 yards?
I can't believe the Eagles organization actually sold me on the idea that Kevin Kolb is a pro-caliber QB.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:52:27 PM
Quick Poll:
Will Kolb complete a pass over 25 yards?
for today or season
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 06:52:27 PM
Quick Poll:
Will Kolb complete a pass over 25 yards?
On a screen, maybe.
McNabb has played like ass most of the game and they can't do anything against a horrible Washington D.
How many Holding penalties will be called?
Quote from: GeneralZOD on October 03, 2010, 06:52:59 PM
I can't believe the Eagles organization actually sold me on the idea that Kevin Kolb is a pro-caliber QB.
I didn't believe anything the Eagles said about him (I thought he sucked almost from day 1) until I saw him play against NO and KC last year. That's when I thought he might have a future. But from what I've seen this year, he's looking like the 2nd coming of Bobby Hoying more than anything else.
Oh swell , now teams are going to game plan for Owen Schmit.
Need to score before the 4 minute mark.
Kevin Kolb go DOWN THE fargING FIELD
lol at this fcking playcalling
Shady and Schmitt...
It's been the shteint show all day!
nice penalty, stops the clock too. Hope reid doesn't realize he has all 3 TOs until; 1:30 left
Why are the taterskins giving the Eagles 6 yards every play, knowing Kolb won't go down the field?
sweet. am i a fool to hope?
TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Finally
it took 45 throws to get there
McCoy's going to set the record for most passes caught in a game by a RB.
TD CELEK! Okay. Back in this biatch.
Tom farging Selleck!
Of course it was a TD. Kolb didn't have to throw it more than 5 yards.
Nice botched 2pter
dink and dunk alll the way down the field and then when they need to dink it they farg it up
that was a huge suckage, had a feeling they had almost no hope (unless they gave it to schmitt)
Horrible play on that two pointer.
This is short of a miracle they're still in it.
Shovel pass would have been a nice call there.
Onside kick to Schmitt.
All 3 timeouts and the 2min warning
STEP UP YO GAME DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nice start
Stop these motherfargers!
keep them in bounds!
D needs to farging step up here. 3 and out bitches.
Ha. They called a timeout. Fail.
There's one timeout.
Please stop the run
Please
come on defenseeeeeeee
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hahahah Jaguars.
There's two.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 03, 2010, 07:03:41 PM
keep them in bounds!
Why would you want to keep the skins in bounds? That keeps the clock moving. Your bass ackwards.
McNabbs 4th qtr suckatude vs Eagles zesty defense. Who wins?
Ha McNabb went out of bounds.
Beautiful
Nice D.
Backbreaker.
Atleast he ran out
Ha ha farging ha.
No timeouts now. 3:41 to go. This is laughable.
Miracle time
was still time up til then
Now that one was the backbreaker.
This goddamn defense farging sucks
farg these funholes
Looks like the D just gave up. Farg them.
Game. We can't stop some guy named Torian KNOWING they are going to run. McDermott is so good.
When was the jury out on this defense? They suck.
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 03, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
Game. We can't stop some guy named Torian KNOWING they are going to run. McDermott is so good.
Yep
They know whats fixin to go down and they still cannot stop the goddamn run
farg this gutless ass defense
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 07:07:06 PM
No timeouts now. 3:41 to go. This is laughable.
Nothing wrong with when the timeouts were used. The Skins would have taken a full 40 seconds off on each of those plays.
Torian is the new James Mungro
I hate Joe Buck
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 03, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
Torian is the new James Mungro
There's a new James Mungro every week.
Shady :yay (except for the fumble)
Schmitt :yay :yay
Kolb :boo Someone tell him he can pass more than 5 yards down field!
Defense :-\
Refs :boom
2:00 warning and its 3rd down
If they run..and get stopped, which is a miracle, then the Eagles should have about 1:10 right?
Unless they get stupid and punt it to Pimp and he goes to the house
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 03, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
Game. We can't stop some guy named Torian KNOWING they are going to run. McDermott is so good.
Oh no no! It's got nothing to do with McDermott! It's the players fault. Dropping ALL your DE's into coverage on third and long? Playing your highly drafted DE at DT? Or playing Trevor Laws over Bunkley or Patterson on passing situations? Obviously on the players.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 07:10:29 PM
2:00 warning and its 3rd down
If they run..and get stopped, which is a miracle, then the Eagles should have about 1:10 right?
Unless they get stupid and punt it to Pimp and he goes to the house
Yeah maybe 1:15.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 03, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
Game. We can't stop some guy named Torian KNOWING they are going to run. McDermott is so good.
Oh no no! It's got nothing to do with McDermott! It's the players fault. Dropping ALL your DE's into coverage on third and long? Playing your highly drafted DE at DT? Or playing Trevor Laws over Bunkley or Patterson on passing situations? Obviously on the players.
No wonder none of them bought into this system...courtesy of Sheldon's comments on his way out the door
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 03, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on October 03, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
Game. We can't stop some guy named Torian KNOWING they are going to run. McDermott is so good.
Oh no no! It's got nothing to do with McDermott! It's the players fault. Dropping ALL your DE's into coverage on third and long? Playing your highly drafted DE at DT? Or playing Trevor Laws over Bunkley or Patterson on passing situations? Obviously on the players.
Yep, dropping your DE into coverage on 3rd and 4 and having no one fill his slot is brilliant.
So how many more chances does Kolb get before everyone decides that he does not have "it"? Have we seen enough yet, or are we still hoping that he shows "it" in his 6th game?
Here we go.
Whaddya got, Kolb.
Well wit a little over a minute left, Kolb can complete about 3-5 passes for about 12-15 yards. Go team.
lololololol
Work the sidelines!!!!
Throw to the middle of the field genius. Nice work.
I think I heard the secret call signal "first down first down!"on that one.
Krappy throw
hey hey...a hold on the red team!
I was hoping the hold was against the center, he hasn't had one yet
Krappy throw
DSEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN WAS WIDE OPENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
I suspect that the Eagles will not win this game.
Kolb throwing checkdowns with 20 seconds left.
Another KRAPPY throw
farg you Kob
Why is Kolb throwing down the middle with 20 seconds left on the clock?
Seriously?
This guy is a bum
Did pimp quit on that?
lol
:-D
Hook and farging ladder?! Lmao!
Holy shtein Avant had that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Avant!! Come On!
christ - best hands on the team and Avant can't hold on
Holy shtein that hit Avant in the hands....that would have been epic.
And Kolb still woulda sucked.
Avant had that!!!
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 07:17:18 PM
I suspect that the Eagles will not win this game.
Nor many this year.
nice catch jason.
That makes this one sting even more. He had that farging ball
Yes, he should have caught that.
That would have been an epic theft of a game. Damnit Avant.
Kolb just has poor down field vision.
farging jerkoffs
I hate this defense with a passion
They should have put in Carmichael for the hail mary.
Bottom line is Reid was schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan knew the D would b expecting the pass so he grounded it out. Embarrassing effort early by the D. I'm fine with what I saw from Kolb.
coulda woulda shoulda. but that would have been the funniest farging ending to a game I ever saw if Avant held on.
taterskins are so bad too. Oh well.
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:24:28 PM
Bottom line is Reid was schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan new the D would b expecting the pass so he grounded it out. Embarrassing effort early by the D. I'm fine with what I saw from Kolb.
Dig those checkdowns and poor throws, eh?
How are you fine with what you saw from Kolb? Jesus christ :-D
So you must have really been impressed with McNabb's 8 completions.
Dare I say it????????????
FREDDIE MITCHELL WOULD'VE CAUGHT THAT GOT-DAMN BALL.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:24:28 PM
Bottom line is Reid was schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan new the D would b expecting the pass so he grounded it out. Embarrassing effort early by the D. I'm fine with what I saw from Kolb.
Dig those checkdowns and poor throws, eh?
Not his fault McCoy fumbled and Peters gets flag after flag. His passes were on point. Desean Jackson and Maclin were farging absent but he moved the ball. He had to enter the game from behind, not sure how you could hate on the guy.l
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:24:28 PM
Bottom line is Reid was schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan new the D would b expecting the pass so he grounded it out. Embarrassing effort early by the D. I'm fine with what I saw from Kolb.
Dig those checkdowns and poor throws, eh?
Not his fault McCoy fumbled and Peters gets flag after flag. His passes were on point. Desean Jackson and Maclin were farging absent but he moved the ball. He had to enter the game from behind, not sure how you could hate on the guy.l
Man, he missed Celek by throwing behind and had Pimp WIDE open and missed him. They were rolling coverage to Jackson. Maclin was wide open a few times, as pointed out by Aikman, and he continuously checked it down.
Aikman was harping on him not getting it down the field.
He would not go beyond his checks. And when he did he was off. They dropped two picks too
Too many check down passes, that being said he did move the football.
Not blaming the refs for their calls, but they are ruining the NFL this year. It seems like they destroy the flow of the game.
Kolb sucked, but how many mistakes were there today? Not getting short yardage, holds, delay of game, fumble, etc. Also the refs sure farged us in the ass real good a few times.
Overall terrible performance by everyone on the field. The taterskins sucked, the Eagles sucked, the refs sucked, and Buck sucked.
Christ Kolb is hide your eyes awful.
At least the defense sucks......
Kolb looked sharp? WTF game were you watching.
He looked sharp on one or two throws. He looked jumpy, inaccurate, indecisive, and scared overall.
Vick's time off will be pretty interesting. Kolb has an extended tryout until Vick is ready to play again. If he doesn't improve, his career is over. If he plays well, maybe somebody will think about a last minute trade for him, or maybe he goes in the offseason.
Kolb was fine, he moved the ball. Again, if Shady doesn't fumble and they put points on the board there the Eagles have a chance to win. It's reallyl not his fault Reid was absolutely schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan knew Reid would come out defending the pass thinking Donovan would be airing the ball out, instead he grounds it out and Reid (typcial) doesn't adjust. The Skins D wasn't even that good, it's just they knew what Reid was doing. Kolb was fine, the haters keep looking at the end of the game but don't look at his drives when Shady fumbled and Peters was called holding.
I suppose the silver lining is that next week we get Kolb who played with the one's all week, and has had the gameplan built around him. Then it's no more excuses if he sucks it up. Fine by me, it was inevitable and in a way I'm glad it's going to take place. It may suck, I'm pretty sure it will, but it's something that has to get done so the team can plan what's next. Get on with it.
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
Kolb was fine, he moved the ball. Again, if Shady doesn't fumble and they put points on the board there the Eagles have a chance to win. It's reallyl not his fault Reid was absolutely schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan knew Reid would come out defending the pass thinking Donovan would be airing the ball out, instead he grounds it out and Reid (typcial) doesn't adjust. The Skins D wasn't even that good, it's just they knew what Reid was doing. Kolb was fine, the haters keep looking at the end of the game but don't look at his drives when Shady fumbled and Peters was called holding.
That would be McDermott getting schooled by Shanahan.
And he moved the ball because he looked like Trent Edwards out there - checking it down before even looking at his deeper options.
I watched him throw behind Celek, miss jackson and miss Maclin. And listened to Aikman talk about numerous other instances where he failed to get the ball down the field.
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
Kolb was fine, he moved the ball. Again, if Shady doesn't fumble and they put points on the board there the Eagles have a chance to win. It's reallyl not his fault Reid was absolutely schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan knew Reid would come out defending the pass thinking Donovan would be airing the ball out, instead he grounds it out and Reid (typcial) doesn't adjust. The Skins D wasn't even that good, it's just they knew what Reid was doing. Kolb was fine, the haters keep looking at the end of the game but don't look at his drives when Shady fumbled and Peters was called holding.
As long as we're looking at the "what ifs", might as well look at the two dropped INT's and the missed wide open receivers down the field.
That what if game can be played both ways, and overall he looked below average. As PPDC just said, hopefully having the game plan built around him/his talent makes a difference next week, but he has yet to show any glimmer of hope that he has "it".
I think it's obvious Kolb didn't wow anyone, but it was what you could have expected. The team looked flat coming out, shook up when Vick got hurt, and then Kolb came in cold. With Reid's historically awesome penchant for change his gameplan mid-game, you can see how it was doomed to be lackluster. Get over. Next week the excuses will be removed, and if Kolb sucks it up, so be it. This entire team played like balls today. Kolb wasn't in the top five in terms of who deserved blame for the loss.
I would hope no one blames Kolb for the loss. There were a million other things that went wrong and they played like smelly muddy ass as a team.
But I don't know how anyone can say they liked what they saw from Kolb today. LeSean McCoy had 12 catches....that says a lot about Kolb's decision making/down field vision today.
McNabb sucked and pulled all his old tricks trying to give the game away. The ridiculous mistake at the end of the 1st half and Kevin Kaptain Checkdown Kolbsy made the Eagles worse than a neutered house pet.
Oh well. IGY and I got PAID. Go Phillies.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever been so glad to not be at a game. AIDS to all of you.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
Quote from: SD on October 03, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
Kolb was fine, he moved the ball. Again, if Shady doesn't fumble and they put points on the board there the Eagles have a chance to win. It's reallyl not his fault Reid was absolutely schooled by Shannahan. Shannahan knew Reid would come out defending the pass thinking Donovan would be airing the ball out, instead he grounds it out and Reid (typcial) doesn't adjust. The Skins D wasn't even that good, it's just they knew what Reid was doing. Kolb was fine, the haters keep looking at the end of the game but don't look at his drives when Shady fumbled and Peters was called holding.
That would be McDermott getting schooled by Shanahan.
And he moved the ball because he looked like Trent Edwards out there - checking it down before even looking at his deeper options.
I watched him throw behind Celek, miss jackson and miss Maclin. And listened to Aikman talk about numerous other instances where he failed to get the ball down the field.
He still played better than your boy McNabb. That is not saying much though. Again he checked down way too much, at the same time he made an unbelievable throw to Celek in the endzone. They had a great drive at the end of the half that didn't get a chance to get six. Not sure who to blame on that.
I got a feeling Vick will be out for a while.
Now back to your regularly scheduled rebuilding year and extended audition of Kevin Kolb.
So its good he played better than my boy. Congrats to him for the better stats. :yay
Not just talking about stats, but whatever. It was an awful game to watch period.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 03, 2010, 08:07:50 PM
So its good he played better than my boy. Congrats to him for the better stats. :yay
The skins had 0 points in the 2nd half. McNabb had how many completions? He got a near-game-icing 1st down but ran out of bounds to gift the Eagles a clock stoppage. He threw out of bounds and at people's feet.
Kolb was infuriating but not awful considering the situation.
Hold up. I'm not complimenting McNabb and my feelings towards the slop that Kolb showed have zero to do with McNabb. Lets not make the two tied in together.
I thought Kolb looked indecisive in his reads and was generally zesty
Kolb had a lot going against him here:
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 03, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
I think it's gonna be Kolb's team again, at least for a while. So now Kolb gets to make his real debut:
1) Down 14 points
2) Against McNabb
3) In high winds
4) Having been undermined by the coach
5) Having the locker room behind another QB as the starter
This worked out well.
Also, it's a safe bet he didn't have a ton of first team practice this week.
All that being said, he was not impressive at all. He will get eaten alive if he plays like that against better teams. On the other hand, 1) We still haven't seen enough to truly evaluate his potential, especially considering the situation he was placed in today, and 2) He didn't cost the Birds the game. He came in when they were 14 points down, and would have won if Avant didn't suddenly have butterfingers. It was a total team loss.
Wind actually explains a lot. Except Reid being fat and stupid.
Tra Thomas just took a little sideswipe at McNabb on the PE.com post-game show. :-D
Talked about how 5 wasn't a leader who would get people fired up. Then he seemed to realize that maybe he shouldn't be talking about that and started smiling.
Wow that is kind of weird. Thomas was never an outspoken player.
McNabb was a complete non-factor in this game, in fact if the Skins go in this game with Jason Campbell the outcome is the same. The problem with this game was Reid and the fact that he should have been fired 5 years ago.
So yeah, one QB threw TD passes when needed.
The other threw, well, lots of 5 yard passes in the middle of the field in a 2 minute drill and then an INT to seal the game.
I don't care what McNabb did or didn't do. He won. And he DID throw the passes he needed to make.
You Kolb guzzlers can go cry yourselves to sleep.
And Andy Reid, go farg yourself. If you can find your dick, you fat waste of breath.
He made first half throws, if Mcnabb made throws he needed to make it wouldn't have been a game. 69 rating he was awesome.
Yeah, McNabb threw those TD's (a.k.a. the one TD he threw) in the 1st quarter, just when his team really needed it.
What the farg game were you watching? He played like ASS and the Eagles gifted the game to the skins. But I agree on Reid whole-heartedly.
Like overthrowing Armstrong wide open down the sideline or almost getting a pick to Bradley?
He sucked. Oh, and he also took a shot at the Eagles after the game in their locker room. Said something like "everyone is entitled to make a mistake, but you guys made a mistake on me" or something like that.
Blame Kolb for the missed passes, tentative play, and unnecessary checkdowns, but the INT at the end that bounced off of Avant's mitts? C'mon.
McNabb has slop to throw to other than Moss (who can't even carry DJax's jock) and Cooley.
Kolb has arguably the best WRs/TE team in the NFL and he couldn't do a God Damned thing.
McNabb's 2nd half completions were for 5 and 8 yards. Let's discuss how neat he is.
Let's discuss how neat Kolb's numbers in that offense would be
Quote from: King Cole on October 03, 2010, 08:46:50 PM
Like overthrowing Armstrong wide open down the sideline or almost getting a pick to Bradley?
He sucked. Oh, and he also took a shot at the Eagles after the game in their locker room. Said something like "everyone is entitled to make a mistake, but you guys made a mistake on me" or something like that.
Yeah, I saw that too. McNabb is a str8-up-bitch. He'll give nothin but propers when he's being interviewed, but he'll be quick to take that jab at da Birdz when he has the chance...
FF, he was playing with the lead. That team actually uses the run in instances like that. Did he NEED to pass the ball long?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2010, 09:08:17 PM
FF, he was playing with the lead. That team actually uses the run in instances like that. Did he NEED to pass the ball long?
Yeah, putting the game out of reach of your opponent is useless.
PG, I get the Kolb hate, he's shown nothing special yet, but I think we can agree while signs don't point to him achieving shtein in his career, that it's still way to early to make the final judgment. The dude is just North of 10 quarters played in his ENTIRE career.
I think if McNabb was throwing deep balls in the 4th quarter up 17-6 in a game being dominated by the Eagles defense, we'd be killing Reid for not running the ball.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
McNabb has slop to throw to other than Moss (who can't even carry DJax's jock) and Cooley.
Kolb has arguably the best WRs/TE team in the NFL and he couldn't do a God Damned thing.
This.
So McNabb has junk? Won't disagree but wtf does that have to do with missing wide open guys? And as much as I like the Eagles skill players they aren't worth a shtein if the line isn't playing well. And it wasn't like Pimp and Maclin were wide open all game.
Not all game but pretty sure Troy and Buck pointed out at LEAST 3 plays where they were pretty wide open.
And again the oline wasn't great but Kolb had time to throw. Ample time in a few instances. And he either wasn't reading the defense or just couldn't make himself pull the trigger. And when he did throw, he looked pretty average...accurate and awesome on a few throws, horrible and off target on others. Didn't we just get rid of a guy like that
Quote from: Munson on October 03, 2010, 09:43:08 PM
Not all game but pretty sure Troy and Buck pointed out at LEAST 3 plays where they were pretty wide open.
And again the oline wasn't great but Kolb had time to throw. Ample time in a few instances. And he either wasn't reading the defense or just couldn't make himself pull the trigger. And when he did throw, he looked pretty average...accurate and awesome on a few throws, horrible and off target on others. Didn't we just get rid of a guy like that
:-D true
The o line despite jason peters and his bone head penalties actually played pretty well.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 03, 2010, 10:28:42 PM
The o line despite jason peters and his bone head penalties actually played pretty well.
One thing to remember is that the Eagles were playing against the worst defense in the NFL today, and a team that just got beat by the Rams.
In summary, the O-line is good enough to take on the worst defense, but the Lions D-line is too much for them.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
So yeah, one QB threw TD passes when needed.
The other threw, well, lots of 5 yard passes in the middle of the field in a 2 minute drill and then an INT to seal the game.
We should also blame Kolb for Shady's fumble, Mr. "I haven't dropped a pass in training camp" drop, and Peters holding penalties too.
lol at your Kolb hate and your "I already said I hope I'm wrong but...". Lets be honest, unless he wins a SB you'll never give the guy credit regardless of what he does.
Quote from: SD on October 04, 2010, 02:06:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
So yeah, one QB threw TD passes when needed.
The other threw, well, lots of 5 yard passes in the middle of the field in a 2 minute drill and then an INT to seal the game.
We should also blame Kolb for Shady's fumble, Mr. "I haven't dropped a pass in training camp" drop, and Peters holding penalties too.
lol at your Kolb hate and your "I already said I hope I'm wrong but...". Lets be honest, unless he wins a SB you'll never give the guy credit regardless of what he does.
Sounds familiar.
All of the people talking about Kolb's horrible play today are not saying he's the reason that they lost. They all seem to be rational enough to realize that the team as a whole played like shtein, including Kolb.
I'm searching and searching and failing to see a post from anyone that said Kolb was the reason why they lost, or that McNabb is super great/did better than Kolb.
theres a lot of complaining going on for what always was and what will end up being an 8-8 team
8-8 was looking good on The morning of September 12. Now it 's a pipe dream.
McNabb wasn't the reason the skins won. Kolb wasn't the reason the Eagles lost. The game sucked, but not as much as most of you bitches.
I was busy for the first half of this game, doing some very cool errands. Framing a friend's house. So at five we quit, I got in the car and found the taterskins Nation channel, just in time to listen to the last four minutes of the first half.
If it's not clear to people that Andy Reid is the biggest problem with this team, I don't know what to say. That sequence at the end of the first half was textbook AR FAIL. Absolutely embarrassing. If Reid were Japanese, he would have killed himself at halftime in shame.
On the other hand, there's a very real possibility that the delay of game penalty allowed the Eagles to score 3 points instead of 0. But that's another indication of Reid's poor decision-making.
Reid deprived himself of the opportunity to choose. You aren't helping matters if you limit your own options.
As I said before, the fact he had to call a timeout after the officials took five minutes reviewing the previous play, is proof he was lost, didn't have a clue. You could see it in his face. He just doesn't get it, he's been coaching way too long to pull stupid crap like that.
It's atrocious. I hope he gets murdered for it by the press and talking heads all week long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DDQ4Y9ZIwI&feature=player_embedded
Awww, look how Donovan is still hurt
I still think we robbed them blind
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20101004_Sam_Donnellon__For_McNabb_and_Reid__some_things_never_change.html)
QuoteIn the final minutes of yesterday's 17-12 taterskins victory, McNabb showed his penchant for both heroics and boneheadedness - all in the same play. Faced with a third-and-4 from his 22-yard line with just under 4 minutes remaining, he scrambled away from a blitz, rambled 18 yards - and then ran out of bounds rather than slide.
QuoteWhich takes us to Reid, who now seems so exposed without his favorite alibi around. He called three timeouts with more than 5 minutes left in the opening-game loss to Green Bay, then answered, "It's what we do" when quizzed about it afterward. Yesterday, on a fourth down near the goal line just before the half, he incurred a delay-of-game penalty after realizing that his team was 18 inches farther from the goal line than he originally thought.
Instead of scoring a touchdown, the Eagles settled for a field goal. In a defensive game in which the Eagles had the better offensive statistics, it was the difference.
QuoteReid was a big reason his team lost. McNabb was hardly the reason his team won. He was up 7-0 before he even attempted a pass. He was up 14-0 after three throws, one an awful overthrow of tight end Fred Davis, wide-open down a sideline, the other a laser that hit Cooley in stride down the middle of the field.
I asked taterskins coach Mike Shanahan if the early playcalling was to help McNabb get comfortable.
"Not really," he said. "We had a game plan. We understand the type of defense we were going against. You get into a throwing game, especially here, in this environment with the crowd, usually you're in for a long day. So you have to establish the run and kind of build some play action off it."
Frank Gore's numbers next week: 32 carries for for 176 yards and 2 TD, sounds about right.
Quote from: SunMo on October 04, 2010, 08:54:10 AM
Frank Gore's numbers next week: 32 carries for for 176 yards and 2 TD, sounds about right.
Would be even more hilarious if Westbrook shredded the Eagles, right?
not for my fantasy team, no.
it was nice to see djax and donny hugging and chatting it up before the game. especially since they hate each other.
lady in front of me got all chocked up when she saw desean run towards mcnabb like it was his long lost father.
Thats funny to read because one of the beat guys via twitter tried to say that they did not really say much and only shook hands real quick.
eh, nm... i didnt realize i was quoting something 5 days old.
http://delcotimes.com/articles/2010/10/06/sports/doc4cabf7e466897495063766.txt
QuoteNFL explains replay, ball spotting issue from Eagles loss
Published: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
Eagles head coach Andy Reid got an explanation from the NFL for the controversial delay of game penalty he believes cost him a touchdown with 23 seconds left in the first half of the loss to the Washington taterskins.
This is just a hunch but he probably didn't like it.
Reid decided to kick a field goal rather than sneak quarterback Kevin Kolb in what would become a 17-12 defeat to the Skins. Reid felt the ball was spotted further away from the goal line than before a replay review. Obviously he wasn't comfortable Kolb could put the ball in the end zone.
Additionally Reid was dumbfounded to learn the play clock was running out before he could decide if another player could get the yard — all of that after a lengthy review and a timeout.
The NFL issued this report explaining the ruling:
"The instant replay review was to determine if the ball broke the plane of the goal line. Replay confirmed the ruling on the field, so the original spot — just inside the one yard-line — stood. In terms of the delay of game and the mechanics of re-starting play after a timeout, the referee blows his whistle, makes a physical and verbal signal to the bench area, and then gives the signal for the play clock to begin. This is what took place in Sunday's game."
An NFL spokesman insisted the ball didn't move from where it was spotted before the review.
Reid felt the spot moved from about the one-inch line to the one-yard line. He also said he "goofed."
— BOB GROTZ
the spot wasn't changed ?
The spot was definitely changed. The NFL's full of shtein, but the egg is still on Reid's face.
egg?
Sorry, I meant "semen."