Week 4: Lil Donny Comes Home

[Drunkmasterflex]

feva is on point here.

What did he do? Well do you think that they would have been close to those championship games or super bowl without him? Perhaps they should have drafted Ricky? Or better yet - Akili Smith or Cade McCown?! Or maybe they should have traded the icehole in 2003 after he failed to beat Carolina and had his ribs cracked? Or definitely after the super bowl loss. Probably would have been better off with a journeyman like Jeff Garcia.

What did he do? Ridiculous question.

Yeah he's such a soft batch punk. Ooooh he said mean things about the fans! Grow a set. Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans front runners and was lambasted. We all talk shtein - Philly fans more often than many - but when it's thrown back it's like all he broke loose.

11 years of being relevant in the NFL. 11 years of watching good footbal.

Did we see a championship? Nope. And it farging sucks but to ignore what mcnabb did because of what he said or perceived slights is farging retarded.

Well the big difference between JRoll and Donnie Poonanny is jewelry.  I think there are a lot of people like myself when it comes to McNabb, used to be big supporters but got tired of his excuses and lack of play in big spots.  With him it seemed to get worse as he got older in both regards. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If you don't have undying admiration for 5, you're a fleshpop.  Do I have that right, Feva/Phreak?

WTF I don't get mentioned in that love fest?

You don't rate.  The difference is that I respect many of their other opinions.  You - not so much.

[Munson]

and what did he do for your team?

won a bunch a games against a zesty division for years.  played brilliant at times, awful at others.  was 1-4 in NFCCG, 1-3 when he was the favorite.  and he played like shtein in the superbowl

I don't know what the Vegas numbers and all that were, but in no circumstances should the Eagles have been favored against either the Rams or the Cardinals. Both were 'miracle' type runs and both teams were overall better than the Eagles. 1-2 in games favored.

[SunMo]

they weren't favored against the rams, they were favored against the Bucs, Panthers, Falcons, and Cardinals.

and who cares if you think they should have been or not against the Cardinals, forgetting Vegas making them a favorite, everyone and their mother expect the Eagles to go in there and win.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Of all the NFCC games they lost, the Cardinals one was the most winnable and the one in which Donovan was most personally responsible for the loss.  The offense should have put up 50+ in that game easily.  The Bucs and Panthers games were much more total team losses, especially the Bucs game in which both offense and defense just got straight-up dominated all game.  Then again, Donovan did throw THREE picks to RICKY MANNING JUNIOR against the Panthers, so maybe he's pretty accountable for that one too.

[Munson]

I certainly thought they had the chance at the time, which was no doubt my homerism kicking in....but looking back on that game, do you really think the Eagles were the better team?

They were a 9-6-1 team that had no business being in the playoffs, let alone the NFCCG. They just happened to get hot at the right time late in the season and sneak into the playoffs.

[rjs246]

Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier in one of the last games of the year. They were definitely favored, as they should have been.

[charlie]

I certainly thought they had the chance at the time, which was no doubt my homerism kicking in....but looking back on that game, do you really think the Eagles were the better team?

They were a 9-6-1 team that had no business being in the playoffs, let alone the NFCCG. They just happened to get hot at the right time late in the season and sneak into the playoffs.

The cardinals were a much better team at 9-7.

[Munson]

Of all the NFCC games they lost, the Cardinals one was the most winnable and the one in which Donovan was most personally responsible for the loss.  The offense should have put up 50+ in that game easily.  The Bucs and Panthers games were much more total team losses, especially the Bucs game in which both offense and defense just got straight-up dominated all game.  Then again, Donovan did throw THREE picks to RICKY MANNING JUNIOR against the Panthers, so maybe he's pretty accountable for that one too.

two things.

1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable, and also the one that, had they won, would have almost certainly led to a SB victory over that joke of a team Oakland. But come on...The Bucs, at home, in under 40 degree whether in which they had never won, and a team that the Eagles had just beat up on the year before in the playoffs, with an aggressive D and a statue-target at QB in Brad Johnson....THAT was the year.

2. McNabb also took a cheap shot in that game. He choked no doubt, but to put the blame mostly on him is wrong. His best RB was hurt and his #1 WR was JameS Thrash. Also, the Panthers secondary raped the Eagles WR's so bad that it helped lead to a rules change/illegal contact penalty added the next year.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable

I think I stopped reading right there.  No.  The Bucs got hot at the right time and the Eagles were in their way.  In fact the Bucs of 2002 were exactly what the Eagles of 2008 should have been.

[Munson]

Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier in one of the last games of the year. They were definitely favored, as they should have been.

It was on thanksgiving which was like 7 weeks prior, and I definitely remember all the talking heads talking about how much a different team the Cardinals had become in that time. Which is true.

Warner and Fitz and the rest of that team were on another level by the time the NFCCG rolled around. That was their high water mark. The Eagles was the week 17 demolishing of Dallas.

[ice grillin you]

Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier

exactly...even i thought they were going to beat the cardinals

eagles had the better team but not the better qb....which is kind of the whole point here

[Munson]

1. I think everyone agrees that the Bucs game was probably the most winnable

I think I stopped reading right there.  No.  The Bucs got hot at the right time and the Eagles were in their way.  In fact the Bucs of 2002 were exactly what the Eagles of 2008 should have been.

False. The Bucs had the best D, but the Eagles had the 2nd best D (at least in PA) and many considered the Eagles O that year better than the Bucs. It was the Bucs, at home, last game at the Vet, in cold weather which the Bucs had never won in. That was the year. Period.

[Munson]

Plus they had just SMOKED the Cardinals like 5 weeks earlier

exactly...even i thought they were going to beat the cardinals

eagles had the better team but not the better qb....which is kind of the whole point here

Cards also had the better WR's and the better coach.


Being 0/3 in those elements when you're a pass-first team is not good.

[charlie]

Besides 9-7 is so much better than 9-6-1 it's not even funny.