top 25
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188
Rutgers getting disrespected. How can you finish the season at 12, and be projected to opene the year at 21?
Bull. shtein.
i think it was herbie last night on sportscenter who had them at #5
Thats because he forgot to vote for us in the Top 25 after the Syracuse game.
Either way, cool seeing RU with USC, Michigan, Florida and LSU.
I find it funny that the Big Ten looked so zesty in their bowl games and yet has 4 teams in the top 14.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 10, 2007, 02:40:19 PM
Rutgers getting disrespected. How can you finish the season at 12, and be projected to opene the year at 21?
Bull. shtein.
QuoteWhy not: The loss of senior running back Brian Leonard can't be understated. He was a bruising blocker, a fabulous receiver out of the backfield and formed a great running tandem with Rice. The Scarlet Knights also must replace five starters on defense.
Granted, but a FB/RB shouldnt drop you to 21 when you finish the year at 12 in the AP.
Especially w/ a Top 20 recruiting class coming in.
rutgers just signed Barry Zito
Im sorry, FF. Did you change your name again?
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 11, 2007, 09:20:49 AM
I find it funny that the Big Ten looked so zesty in their bowl games and yet has 4 teams in the top 14.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 10, 2007, 02:40:19 PM
Rutgers getting disrespected. How can you finish the season at 12, and be projected to opene the year at 21?
Bull. shtein.
QuoteWhy not: The loss of senior running back Brian Leonard can't be understated. He was a bruising blocker, a fabulous receiver out of the backfield and formed a great running tandem with Rice. The Scarlet Knights also must replace five starters on defense.
Well you know that OSU and Michigan always will start the season in the top 15 no matter what. Wisconsin and PSU both beat good teams in there bowl games so they may deserve a little of the preseason hype. Michigan I don't know what to think of them.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 11, 2007, 11:15:57 AM
Im sorry, FF. Did you change your name again?
Ha. Well played. Although, you should have worked something in there about the WVU booster's inside info.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on January 11, 2007, 12:41:11 PM
Well you know that OSU and Michigan always will start the season in the top 15 no matter what. Wisconsin and PSU both beat good teams in there bowl games so they may deserve a little of the preseason hype. Michigan I don't know what to think of them.
Michigan will be a very good team. They could be great if they don't lose too many underclassmen to the draft. Chad Henne will easily be the best QB in the Big Ten next year... unfortunately.
Oh, here's a little something I found. The OSU band is making a change to the script "Ohio" they do during their pregame next year to better represent their performance against Florida:
(http://www.hewroteshewrote.com/NewScriptOhio.jpg)
ha
(http://www.bceaglesfootball.com/images/nd1.gif)
That's so true. I laughed thrice.
If not FOR THAT ILLEGAL SHove last year they'd be national champs rofl rofl lol baha
people who like notre dame for no other reason than they are irish are the worst
Yeah, I know, man. It's like all those mountain lions that root for PSU. Ridiculous.
LOLAIDS
i saw a moose yesterday. just hangin around in the middle of the city eating something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuo8Hr48OBY
that was disturbing.
but for comedic purposes, after the guy says, "Mother nature", a bear should've attacked him from behind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--EtkNwHctw&NR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--EtkNwHctw&NR)
i think its to old for youtube but does anyone remember seeing on the news years back the video of some guy in alaska getting a mudhole stomped in his ass from a giant moose...the moose's legs were moving in an amazing fast fashion onto the guys face...like big jackhammers
A møøse once bit my sister
tim tebow and his girl....
(http://f7.yahoofs.com/users/CXcCHv8bmw7v/__sr_/2a70.jpg?tkn=phwjVrFBczfiSToF&saveas=tebowsgf)
Look at the funbags on that hosehound!
Quoteim actually that girl in the photo and i am neither his sister nor his girlfriend! i met him out one night and took a picture with him (like any other girl at UF would)
and besides what EVERYONE is looking at, i am actually a very intellectual girl that is going to med school... please dont assume things and judge my character based on that picture!thanks!
and plus... i already have a boyfriend and NONE of this is helping our relationship out. so please STOP!
yeah ok :-D
If she was serious about being a doctor, she would have done one of the following:
-not gotten implants at all
-gotten better implants
-gotten previously-installed implants removed/reduced
How easy is it to leave comments there?
go for it (http://journorock.blogspot.com/2007/01/tim-tebows-girlfriend.html)
Some of the responses to her are mildly funny.
Looks like last year's #1 high school recruit Mitch Mustain is leaving Arkansas for Tulsa...
SI's new top 25 taking into account underclassmen who declared
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/01/16/early07.rankings/index.html
Running back Keeley Dorsey dies after workout (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6380412)
Colt Brennan pulled out of the draft and will return to Hawaii
Not sure why considering his last performance in the Hawaii Bowl. What more could he have done?
Must have been scared that Russell and Quinn would be drafted ahead of him.
Not sure why considering his last performance in the Hawaii Bowl. What more could he have done
i agree....no reason he shouldnt come out
Maybe he found out the skins were planning to draft him.
His draft stock wasn't that high because of concerns over Hawaii's system, Timmy Chang, etc. If he puts up similar numbers next year, he'll challenge Brohm for a top 10 spot. With Russell and Quinn in this year's draft, he would have fallen to the 2nd round if he stayed in...
His draft stock wasn't that high because of concerns over Hawaii's system, Timmy Chang, etc. If he puts up similar numbers next year, he'll challenge Brohm for a top 10 spot.
that makes no sense whatsoever
Just like Chang, many view him as being a product of June Jones' run-and-gun system that puts up huge numbers every week against awful WAC defenses while playing on turf, and he doesn't have the ideal build for a QB (he's less than 195 pounds). He's had two great years and most considered him a 2nd-rd pick, possible 3rd, as of now because of the depth of QBs in this draft. If he has another awesome year and maybe adds about 10-15 pounds of muscle, he could be a legit prospect looking at a top 10 selection. As of now, Louisville's Brian Brohm is the only other QB expected to go top 10 next year, but as we saw with LSU's JaMarcus Russell this season, you can go from being a 2nd round pick to #1 overall quickly...
so two years in a suspect system makes you a 2-3 rounder but a third year makes you a potential top 10 pick
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 18, 2007, 01:19:26 PM
so two years in a suspect system makes you a 2-3 rounder but a third year makes you a potential top 10 pick
It doesn't hurt that he goes to school somewhere kind of nice.
this is great
http://maryland.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=48534
(http://www.dlm-tv.de/gallerie/promo/portraint/jasmine.jpg)
from Philly.com
QuoteRecruiting tool
One of the odder sights you'll see as you drive down I-95 South into Miami is a giant billboard on the right side of the highway. It says simply: RUTGERS FOOTBALL.
The state university of New Jersey, coached by former University of Miami defensive coordinator Greg Schiano,is obviously making a strong pitch for some of the nation's best high school football talent in South Florida.
Still, that billboard really seemed out of place in South Florida rather than in South Jersey.
I was looking for a quote from a Temple football coach for my upcoming story, and was told some of them were recruiting in Canada. And had blackberrys. Woohoo tuition money.
Quote from: MDS on January 31, 2007, 07:40:51 PM
Woohoo tuition money.
This never ceases to piss me off.
To be in division one, your entire athletic program must be self supporting. Generally this means that a school's football or basketball program (or both) carry the rest. 100% ticket sales and donations. No tuition dollars, no state dollars. Period.
It pisses you off that everyone doesn't know the ins and outs of college football finances?
What annoys me is that when people complain about what college sports teams spend, it is all about tuition/state dollars. But when college sports teams get big TV deals, raise ticket prices, etc., it is "lining their pockets". (Whose pockets? It is a non-profit organization.)
While I'm on this rant...here's some more education...
- Student-athlete scholarships are funded by donations, etc. but are paid to the University just as if the student was paying out of pocket. - more tuition dollars
- When a college sports team does well, there is inevitably an increase in enrollment the following year - more tuition dollars.
- Penn State (one of the most successful sports schools in PA) has had the lowest per-student state subsidy in the state for a number of years - popular (sports) schools have to do more with less
-- #1 DT Marvin Austin chose North Carolina over Florida State
-- Noel Devine originally committed to West Virginia then said he won't sign today. Apparently Deion is trying to get him to sign with Florida State
i saw austin in high school last year...dook is a monster
for three years now maryland people have been talking about austin and arrelious benn both from dc...they got neither of them...in fact werent even in the final three for either of them....love it
Is Devine related to Deion?
"father figure", I guess. He has no parents and 2 kids
Butch Davis is earning his money getting a guy like that.
Butch Davis will be gone before Austin reaches his junior season.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 07, 2007, 03:29:18 PM
Butch Davis will be gone before Austin reaches his junior season.
Oh, I get it. He chose UNC over your boy Bobby B at FSU. Wah wah wah.
Exactly. Imagine how he'll feel when Davis does his usual carpet-bagger routine and heads for greener pastures in three years.
Chapel Hill is a nice place. Much nicer than Tallahassee, for instance.
usc got the #1 # 2 # 14 rb's
# 1 wr
# 1 de
# 1 lb
# 3 g
# 3 dt
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2007, 03:55:43 PM
Chapel Hill is a nice place. Much nicer than Tallahassee, for instance.
Right - plus there's all the majesty and history of UNC football too!
Go them.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 07, 2007, 04:09:26 PM
usc got the #1 # 2 # 14 rb's
# 1 wr
# 1 de
# 1 lb
# 3 g
# 3 dt
Par for the course for Pete Carroll. Dook's a recruiting genius. Well, that and he's got the best of everything out there including weather, broads, food, movie stars, swimming pools... the usual.
More on the Devine thing...
QuoteDevine will not sign with West Virginia
West Virginia commitment Noel Devine, a five-star prospect, will not sign a letter of intent after all.
"Noel isn't going to sign today," said James Iandoli, Devine's high school coach. "He had a long conversation with Deion Sanders last night and Deion told him to wait. I don't know if that means he'll visit Florida State this weekend or not but it doesn't appear that that's what this is about. Deion wants him to go to prep school and take his time and visit more schools then."
Sanders has served as a mentor to Devine in recent years. Visit WVSports.com for more from West Virginia's Signing Day.
:deion
:-D
My WVU booster buddy says that they're going to put a hit out on :deion.
That said, he's given me misleading information in the past.
Lets Go Mets.
looks like mitch mustain is gonna transfer to usc
they are a friggin machine
USC is the skins of college football in the off-season, except they actually translate to wins during the season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 08, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
looks like mitch mustain is gonna transfer to usc
they are a friggin machine
Wow.
Phil's boy Matt gettin ready for the Lou...
(http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/02/simmsblunt.jpg)
yo die hard whatever happend with the kid who committed to rutgers from south florida that banged the 13 year old girl....did they end up taking him....i cant find anything on that
You mean Deshaun Stevenson?
Seriously, I hadnt heard that. I know we picked up 4 kids from So. Fla. Remember his name?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2007, 03:28:02 PM
yo die hard whatever happend with the kid who committed to rutgers from south florida that banged the 13 year old girl....did they end up taking him....i cant find anything on that
Schiano gave him a high 5 and asked for dating tips.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2007, 03:59:07 PM
Schiano gave him a high 5 and asked for dating tips. to smell his fingers.
you gotta learn to take it to the next level.
after some investigating i found out his name is antwain easterling...actually he never verballed to rutgers...i thought he had...he did have rutgers and nc as his final two until near the end when he ended up at southern miss due to his legal troubles
Quote from: SunMo on February 09, 2007, 04:01:46 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2007, 03:59:07 PM
Schiano gave him a high 5 and asked for dating tips. to smell his fingers penis.
you gotta learn to take it to the next level.
Like that?
no, too much
mine was perfect...don't fight it, just learn it
picture #10 is motorboat
http://southcarolina.rivals.com/photofeature.asp?sid=1017&fid=16868
The dude to the left paid a lot for those tits so the dude to the right could play with them.
(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2007/0421/20070421__20070422_B14_SP22CSUFBC~p1.JPG)
video of a child being run over at Colorado State's game (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/video/12835305/index.html)
id love to see the eagles take a shot at this guy if he comes out...hes got ridiculous potential......
Once-promising Maryland offensive tackle Jared Gaither has been declared academically ineligible for the 2007 season, sources close to the situation said Wednesday.
Gaither, a rising junior from White Plains, Md., was held out of spring drills to concentrate on academics, but didn't meet requirements to play this coming season. He met with Terrapins coach Ralph Friedgen on Tuesday to decide his future and is scheduled to meet with him again later this week.
Gaither has two options: enter the NFL's supplemental draft (he attended Hargrave Military Academy in Virginia in 2004 and two years with the Terps, making him eligible to turn professional) or return to Maryland this fall and attempt to become eligible for the 2008 season.
Sources said they believed Gaither was leaning toward returning to school this fall.
An NFL scout, who was attending former Georgia cornerback Paul Oliver's workout in Athens, Ga., on Wednesday, said Gaither would be the most desirable player available if he enters the supplemental draft. Gaither didn't allow a sack in 11 games as a freshman at Maryland in 2005.
Do you honestly expect the Eagles to take a shot at a guy who flunked out of college, especially an offensive lineman?
The fact he's an offensive lineman is the only reason I'd think the Eagles might go for him.
That said, IGY's hard-on for Maryland football is hilarious.
Reid has demonstrated that he'll risk taking the occasional moron at certain positions (Moats @ RB, Mitchell @ WR, ) but linemen aren't usually chosen if they're stupid.
Do you honestly expect the Eagles to take a shot at a guy who flunked out of college, especially an offensive lineman?
i dont know......do i?
all i know is the kid has crazy upside....he was a man amongst boys even as a true freshmen
That said, IGY's hard-on for Maryland football is hilarious
so hilarious that ill give you 100 dollars for every post you find me having a hard on for the maryland football program....now stop being the douchebag that mussa so accurately described you as
Ha! You assumed I mean the University of... and I did not.
so youre stupid if you didnt graduate college?...bunkley is about the dumbest human on the planet and reid loves him
shtein reid isnt exactly a mensa member making some of the dumbest decisions youll ever see
Come on, IGY... how hard is it to pass college courses of the type that most football players take? Remember the poll about easy majors??
You'd have to be pretty thick not to at least be able to maintain a 2.0 and stay in school.
If you go to college and fail out, then yes, you're stupid. You might be a really super guy and a great friend and a wonderful delicate flower of a human being, but you're still an idiot.
youre arguing against yourself romey....if its so easy to graduate as an athlete then it shouldnt matter if one gets a degree or not because many of the kids graduating are dumb regardless of whether they dropped out of school or not
it certainly doesnt mean hes dumb and no football person would look at it that way
now if he got thrown out of school then i would agree with you that it would limit peoples interest
theres a far greater chance the eagles wouldnt wanna use one of their precious draft picks on a true sophomore vs not taking gaither because he left school and they think hes dumb because of that
If you go to college and fail out, then yes, you're stupid
youd be amazed at how many ultra succesful people failed out of college
schools not for everyone...some people are disinterested and fail out...some people are lazy and fail out...some people are alcoholics and fail out...not everyone who fails out tho is dumb...just like everyone who graduates isnt smart
i should also add that he didnt fail out of school he just didnt have good enough grades or take enough classes to play football...hes welcome back to school if he chooses
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2007, 08:26:31 PM
If you go to college and fail out, then yes, you're stupid
youd be amazed at how many ultra succesful people failed out of college
schools not for everyone...some people are disinterested and fail out...some people are lazy and fail out...some people are alcoholics and fail out...not everyone who fails out tho is dumb...just like everyone who graduates isnt smart
I'm not at all shocked by people who fail out and are successful. And I won't disagree with anything you've said here. But the truth is that I was lazy, alcoholic and largely disinterested and still graduated with an OK GPA. The smallest bit of effort will get you through easily and if you're *trying* to graduate and don't, than you're an idiot. If you are told you won't be able to play ball unless you get better grades and you actually try to get better grades and can't you are perhaps the dumbest human being alive. School isn't for everyone. It's just for people with enough energy to get out of bed in the morning... three days a week.
i think youre confusing dumb with lazy...but i would say that not everyone who fails out is lazy either...some people just dont want to be in college...so they dont try
especially as in this guys case he doesnt have to be there...he can go pro if he wishes...that makes it even more difficult to succeed if theres no incentive to do well AND you dont want anything to do with school
for all i know this guy could be the dumbest human thats ever lived...but he also could be a very intelligent guy who wants nothing to do with college
If he doesn't want anything to do with educating himself then you'll never convince me that he's anything other than a dimwit.
There are MANY people that DROPPED OUT of college or NEVER WENT that are successful.
They are NOT MANY people that FAILED OUT of college and are successful.
Your mom went to college.
;p; napeolaeon dyunomyte!
owned?
lol yah toats
There are MANY people that DROPPED OUT of college or NEVER WENT that are successful.
They are NOT MANY people that FAILED OUT of college and are successful
first of all nowhere did anyone even remotely argue otherwise so i have no idea what youre even talking about
secondly i wont even begin to ask a money grubber such as your self what successful means...it will just make me sick and angry
last my only point is that just because you fail out of college doesnt mean youre dumb...and to automatically think that shows more ignorance than all the college dropouts combined
You[re arguing that for all intents and purposes, some people choose to fail out of college. If that isn't dumb, I don't know what is.
his choice to drop out might have been dumb...that remains to be seen...but it doesnt make him a dumb person
smart people do stupid things all the time
The line between dropping out and failing out is actually fairly clear. I don't understand the anger.
dropping out --> choosing to leave --> not necessarily a dumbass
failing out --> unable to pass classes --> complete and utter moron
I graduated college in 1993. It cost roughly $15,000 room and board.
I just checked my alma mater... $28,000 per year. :o
If one of my children "chooses" to fail out, they aren't just dumb. They're dead. I will hunt them down and kill them, like a father could do in the Roman Empire. I'll claim the right of pater familias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paterfamilias).
failing out --> unable to pass classes --> complete and utter moron
youre far dumber than most people ive known
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 20, 2007, 09:21:21 PM
I graduated college in 1993. It cost roughly $15,000 room and board.
I just checked my alma mater... $28,000 per year.
If one of my children "chooses" to fail out, they aren't just dumb. They're dead. I will hunt them down and kill them, like a father could do in the Roman Empire. I'll claim the right of pater familias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paterfamilias).
Post of the day.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 20, 2007, 09:23:04 PM
failing out --> unable to pass classes --> complete and utter moron
youre far dumber than most people ive known
That's quite a burn from a guy who barely knows me and yet has personally asked for help in purchasing and setting up his new TV and wireless router.
You might want to face the fact that disagreeing with so many of my opinions is tainting your view of the truth here.
This sucks for Stoopsy (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2933008)
i want to do unspeakable things to urban meyers daughter (in five years)
http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Nikki_Meyer
Good god she is perfect. How old?
last i heard she was 17 she may be 18 not
ha
http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Urban_Meyer
ESPN says Temple is the 2nd worst D-IA team. Win!
From rivals.com so take for WIW, but would be pretty cool...
Delany: Big Ten will look at expansion, title game
Jim Delany guaranteed a much more interesting trip to Chicago for next week's Big Ten football kickoff when the commissioner told The Des Moines Register Wednesday that the Big Ten is again considering expansion. Rutgers and Syracuse are mentioned as potential targets, although Delany himself isn't specifically quoted as identifying those schools, so it's unclear whether those names represent the Big Ten commissioner's personal lead candidates.
The move would increase the reach of the Big Ten Network, underlining Delany's commitment to the league's fledgling broadcast arm:
"It changes to some extent how you think about it," Delany said of expansion. "The broader (the network) is distributed, the more value (expansion) has. We have eight states. With expansion, you could have nine."
Would expansion lead to a two-division split and a big-money conference title game?
Delany said he could live with such a scenario, but thought it had a negative impact on teams that lose in the title game. Big Ten Network president Mark Silverman, on the other hand, practically sounded like he was cheerleading for a title game:
"Any television executive would do whatever they could to be able to air a game like the Big Ten championship," said Mark Silverman, Big Ten Network president. "It would be worth a considerable amount of value.
"Fans would take to something of that nature if it were in the best interest of the conference."
It's hard to tell what to make of this right now.
Yes, expansion would be great for the Big Ten Network and, yes, a Big Ten title game would probably be the most profitable in college sports.
Michigan and Ohio State have traditionally been against expansion, and that's usually enough to kill any proposal in a league that revolves around football, but attitudes have shifted of late. Michigan coach Lloyd Carr and Ohio State coach Jim Tressel have both expressed some support for a 12th member and/or a conference title game in recent years.
Given the criticism he's received over the inability to get the Big Ten Network on most Midwest cable systems, it's hard not to cynically wonder whether Delany is essentially creating a distraction on the eve of the league's biggest media gathering.
Motivations aside, Rutgers has to be the No. 1 target if television is truly driving expansion. Rutgers is a public institution with an excellent academic profile, was one of the best feel-good stories in college sports last season under Greg Schiano, would give the Big Ten a boost in the New York and Philadelphia media markets, and has long-time ties to Penn State.
If this is about television ratings, the other schools historically suggested - Syracuse, West Virginia, Missouri, Iowa State, etc. - simply don't bring as much to the table as Rutgers.
There will be a ton more written and reported on this story out of Chicago next Tuesday and Wednesday, after which we'll have a better idea of how serious Delany and his member schools really are about adding a 12th member.
makes sense as schiano wont have to change conferences when he becomes joe pa's successor
Everything would be simpler if there were 8 generic conferences, 14-16 teams per conference. There's too many rivalries to do something that drastic though...
no real reason for this post...im bored at work today and was looking at barry sanders college numbers
knew he was great but god damn
as a junior he had....
2,628 rushing yards
3,249 total yards
39 td
:o :o
this video is from another planet...it has to be...watch his feet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nh1qQPXQY4
That dude was probably my favorite player to watch ever. He is one guy that really got me into watching football. I remember his rookie season a thanksgiving day game against Cleveland, he was an absolute beast.
Ha! Barry made IGY use smilies.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2007, 01:40:26 PM
no real reason for this post...im bored at work today and was looking at barry sanders college numbers
knew he was great but god damn
as a junior he had....
2,628 rushing yards
3,249 total yards
39 td
:o :o
this video is from another planet...it has to be...watch his feet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nh1qQPXQY4
Barry Sanders = GOD
I loved watching him. Even though his aloofness was a little disappointing to me, he IMO, was the best ever at RB. I think my favorite clip is when he was running against the Bucs and he had the DB doing 360's during his cuts. He kept cutting in and out and the DB looks like he is getting dizzy. Might have been John Lynch in his rookie year, but I'm not sure. He invented the dead-leg shake.
It was also cool watching BDawk take him down in Dawk's rookie year with a beyoootiful open field tackle.
this shtein is funny
dook is from west philly too
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=3750
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2007, 01:21:50 PM
this shtein is funny
dook is from west philly too
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=3750
QuoteWhat is your favorite TV show?
the wire
I think IGY is this guys brother
Your favorite Disney Films?
**** disney
Temple down 14-0 to Navy. I opted out of the game. We're saving the yearly win for those wankers from State College.
Michigan lost to Appalachian State 34-32. Game winning field goal blocked.
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
Michigan lost to Appalachian State 34-32. Game winning field goal blocked.
Bwahahaha. Hilarious.
Appalachian State is no joke. They've won I-AA championships and stuff... but still. I love this.
That game was awesome. Glad to see App State farg up Michigan and Lloyd in the Big House
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 01, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
Appalachian State is no joke. They've won I-AA championships and stuff... but still. I love this.
I know. Tons of people are farging idiots like last year when Oklahoma lost "to a team of walk ons" in the Fiesta Bowl, so they'll claim that Michigan lost to a "lowly 1AA team" but Appalachian State wouldn't be even near the worst teams in 1A.
Dexter Jackson is a farging burner for App State.
Notre Dame is good
DeSean Jackson is absolutely ridiculous. Right after they show a bar that says he's scored 5 TDs on 26 career punt returns, he scores again. He made 3 guys miss while going completely sideways then just ran the entire field with ease. Ridiculous.
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 09:09:08 PM
DeSean Jackson is absolutely ridiculous. Right after they show a bar that says he's scored 5 TDs on 26 career punt returns, he scores again. He made 3 guys miss while going completely sideways then just ran the entire field with ease. Ridiculous.
just saw that.
this cal/tenn game is turning out to be a good one.
How many points will CB put up vs Colorado State today, 80?
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 09:26:19 PM
How many points will CB put up vs Colorado State today, 80?
Northern Colorado.
I have heard the spread is 60. They might pull him by mid third if things are going well (see App. St./Mich). Northern Colorado is no Appalachian State.
holy shtein is Cal loaded! #4 Best a true freshman.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 01, 2007, 09:31:47 PM
Northern Colorado.
I have heard the spread is 60. They might pull him by mid third if things are going well (see App. St./Mich). Northern Colorado is no Appalachian State.
Ha, I knew it was Northern Colorado. It's just that there are so many irrelevant teams in Colorado I get them mixed up.
I picked Hawaii to score the most points out of any team this week. I think they can still top Louisville's 73. Brennan with Bess, Rivers, GriceMullen, etc...shtein.
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 01, 2007, 09:31:47 PM
Northern Colorado.
I have heard the spread is 60. They might pull him by mid third if things are going well (see App. St./Mich). Northern Colorado is no Appalachian State.
Ha, I knew it was Northern Colorado. It's just that there are so many irrelevant teams in Colorado I get them mixed up.
I picked Hawaii to score the most points out of any team this week. I think they can still top Louisville's 73. Brennan with Bess, Rivers, GriceMullen, etc...shtein.
wow, you know your stuff. Those wrs are something else. River's gets better every year. He took a year off in 05 and got his head on straight and has been stellar ever since.
Actually heading to the game in about 15 minutes.
I don't know why but I've kind of followed Hawaii a bit the past couple of years, pretty hard considering they only had like two games last year on at Midnight on TBS. Brennan amazes the hell out of me, people say how he's a "product of the system" but Timmy Chang never came close to setting the passer rating record. He has pinpoint accuracy.
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 09:54:43 PM
I don't know why but I've kind of followed Hawaii a bit the past couple of years, pretty hard considering they only had like two games last year on at Midnight on TBS. Brennan amazes the hell out of me, people say how he's a "product of the system" but Timmy Chang never came close to setting the passer rating record. He has pinpoint accuracy.
63-7. June pulled Colt at halftime. Hawaii never punted . They were scoring at will. It was pretty ugly. Brennen looked sharp. I didn't see a bad pass all night.
Only reason the crowd hung around was to see 70. Close but no cigar.
Play a real team and get some credit, Donny.
Quote from: MDS on September 02, 2007, 02:14:49 PM
Play a real team and get some credit, Donny.
wait till they play Coastal Carolina in three weeks!
fans are not happy about the schedule. athletic director has been crucified for this. Rumor was earlier in the year that espn was really working up a Hawaii/Louisville matchup for week 1. Obviously didn't pan out.
Hawaii opens at Florida next year.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 02, 2007, 03:21:34 PM
Hawaii opens at Florida next year.
Florida does like to warm up against softees.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 02, 2007, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 02, 2007, 02:14:49 PM
Play a real team and get some credit, Donny.
wait till they play Coastal Carolina in three weeks!
fans are not happy about the schedule. athletic director has been crucified for this. Rumor was earlier in the year that espn was really working up a Hawaii/Louisville matchup for week 1. Obviously didn't pan out.
Hawaii opens at Florida next year.
its the same thing i kill st. blows fans on. they play nobody and are in a conference nobody gives a shtein about. if you guys want national respect and some attention, you gotta go to the big boys. hell you might lose, but at least give it a go. if appalachain state can beat michigan, surely hawaii can give someone a game.
FSU @ Clemson later tonight. James Davis and CJ Spiller = teh awsum.
LOL at the Temple student waxing philosophical on college football.
LOL at the douchenozzle who will get on the Temple bandwagon when we beat Penn State this year.
Douchenozzle?
D-
You're trying too hard, little buddy.
I don't think I've ever tried hard at anything.
I know noone here give a shtein about University of Delaware but i'll put this here anyway. Omar Cuff for UD had 244 yards rushing thursday. He ended up with 6 rushing TD's and one recieving TD. Not bad for a converted DB.
One of my friends goes to UD. He hates it.
Quote from: Dillen on September 03, 2007, 05:55:02 PM
One of my friends goes to UD. He hates it.
U don't have friends Dillen, why lie? :P
What is he not a fan of there? If your 21 the bars are pretty decent.
I'm not even sure if he drinks. I don't really know him that well, although he is an Eagles fan.
He doesn't like it just because it's so far from all his friends. Most of his better friends went/go to SUNY schools like Buffalo. He's considering transferring (I think) but is never going to be 100% sure that he wants to because UD is the best school for whatever field he's trying to get into.
Quote from: Dillen on September 03, 2007, 06:21:41 PM
I'm not even sure if he drinks. I don't really know him that well, although he is an Eagles fan.
He doesn't like it just because it's so far from all his friends. Most of his better friends went/go to SUNY schools like Buffalo. He's considering transferring (I think) but is never going to be 100% sure that he wants to because UD is the best school for whatever field he's trying to get into.
He might be there for Medical Technology. They are top 3 apparently in the country, my brother is in the major there. If you don't drink, then yes it would suck.
I'm pretty sure college would suck anywhere if you didn't drink. Whats up with that?
Noel Devine=Football Boner (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GkvhIDsCJck)
Desean Jackson is God (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nqawci9OSE0)
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 04, 2007, 08:10:35 AM
Noel Devine=Football Boner (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GkvhIDsCJck)
Desean Jackson is God (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nqawci9OSE0)
agreed on jackson. guy is amazing.
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Dropped out of the top 25. From #5 to out of the muthafarging top 25. :boo
saturday night is heaven on espn
penn state - notre dame at 6
lsu - vat tech at 9
Yeah, I'm sure that Notre Dame - Penn State game is going to be a real good one.
if youre a penn state fan its gonna be
plus its going to be a lot closer than you think
weis vs paterno assures that
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 05, 2007, 07:53:33 AM
Dropped out of the top 25. From #5 to out of the muthafarging top 25. :yay
Fixed.
Quote from: MDS on September 02, 2007, 02:14:49 PM
Play a real team and get some credit, Donny.
Hawaii AD came out this morning saying that UH was ready to travel to Ann Arbor and open at Michigan this past Saturday. Carr shot it down and scheduled App. St. Dumb farg.
Also said he tried to get App. State to open here. They were here back in 03 and the coachng staff said the trip killed them. Took several weeks to get back on track.
Warriors have back to back road games. Travel to LA Tech tonight for Saturday game. Will then spend the week in Houston preparing for game at UNLV the following week.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 05, 2007, 10:48:11 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 05, 2007, 07:53:33 AM
Dropped out of the top 25. From #5 to out of the muthafarging top 25. :yay
Fixed.
My dumb ass seriously looked at this for a good 30-40 seconds trying to figure out what you changed... :-D :paranoid
Don't sweat it. Regardless, the one given is that my alma mater will choke on it hard when they face the Wolverines.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
Don't sweat it. Regardless, the one given is that my alma mater will choke on it hard when they face the Wolverines.
I'm thinking your
junior high school alma mater could take Michigan out.
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 06, 2007, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 06, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
Don't sweat it. Regardless, the one given is that my alma mater will choke on it hard when they face the Wolverines.
I'm thinking your high school alma mater could take Michigan out.
Doubtful, but they'd still have a better chance than PSU. Plus, Lloyd Carr would just have to bitch and moan until more time got put on the clock.
this Louisville/Middle Tennessee St. game is pretty crazy on ESPN2
louisville-west virginia could end up being 80-70....brohm vs a crappy secondary and slaton/white vs an atrocious run D
Michigan sucks :P
Watched Noel Devine play for WVU, he's just sick. Had 2 touchdowns, and 76 yards on 5 carries. The first guy who hits him never brings him down, its almost like he has oil on him.
39-7 Oregon
I'm hoping to see a few more TDs by Oregon, the more embarrassing for Michigan the better.
Oregon had 4th and inches but got stood up on the goaline. Damnit.
Boise State's winning streak is over after losing at Washington 24-10
Nice to see Miami get roughed up at Oklahoma
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2007, 06:59:04 PM
Boise State's winning streak is over after losing at Washington 24-10
Nice to see Miami get roughed up at Oklahoma
Roughed up isnt even close to what happened to them
^^^^
ha
its funny when easy copies and pastes ap wire headlines to message boards
Hawaii had a massive sphincter test tonight. 45-44 OT win at La Tech.
Colt 530 yards passing - 5 td's.
Anyone see the UNLV/Wisconsin game? That one was close. Hawaii at UNLV next week.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 08, 2007, 06:30:27 PM
Oregon had 4th and inches but got stood up on the goaline. Damnit.
I swear to God the Oregon coach eased up on them. They had the ball on the one-inch line on fourth down so the quarterback lines up in the shotgun and hands the ball off to the tailback at the four yard line?
No farging way.
Either he let up or he's Andy Reid's long lost twin brother.
Hart guaranteed victory next week vs. ND. That was dumb
not really...Notre Dame sucks
Temple lost 42-7 to Buffalo. The bandwagon is empty, join on up when times are high!
did Al Golden hang himself yet?
Maybe. But in reality, they played a pretty decent Navy team real well and hung in the game until the very end. But yesterday they were never in a game they were favored in, against a team that was predicted to finish last in the conference. Couldn't tackle, offense looked just pathetic, everything was horrid. But we'll still beat Penn State.
Quote from: SunMo on September 09, 2007, 11:55:52 AM
not really...Notre Dame sucks
Michigan isn't much better
Michigan opens as a 10-pt favorite vs Notre Dame
Biggest lines of the week: Utah State getting 47 at Oklahoma, and MTSU getting 41.5 at LSU
Florida International is getting 33 at Miami. Last year's matchup turned out well (http://youtube.com/watch?v=FNypDGoC_8M)....
Bye, bye Lloyd Carr... hello Les Miles.
Lloyd Carr will just whine and moan to the Michigan AD for 2 more seconds until he finds a way to save his job.
Still, I thought it was funny when he got interviewed before half-time, and he seriously didn't seem to care that his team was losing 32-7 and Henne was injured.
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 10, 2007, 01:20:45 PM
Still, I thought it was funny when he got interviewed before half-time, and he seriously didn't seem to care that his team was losing 32-7 and Henne was injured.
I thought that was funny too. He was smiling like he had a 40 point lead, when asked if he knew what was wrong with Henne he said " Sure i do" and walked away almost laughing. What a douche
Getting fired is too good for that smug son of a bitch.
PS: The Ohio State fans sang the Michigan fight song again at the pub on Saturday. Hahaha! There's a brawl brewing for sure at that place. Can't wait.
Henne is out for Michigan vs. ND - Ryan Mallet is in.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 10, 2007, 02:28:36 PM
PS: The Ohio State fans sang the Michigan fight song again at the pub on Saturday. Hahaha! There's a brawl brewing for sure at that place. Can't wait.
Hail! To those motherfargers!
Hail! To those big corksoakers!
Hail! Hail! To Michigan,
The cesspool of the West!
Hail! To those fornicators!
Hail! To those masturbators!
Hail! Hail! To Michigan,
The cesspool of the West!
S-T-A-T-E... farg YOU!
i had no idea that ridiculous kid Devine went to WVU. as if they needed another awesome RB. kid had 5 carries for over 130 last night.
He's friggin rediculous, that double cut move he made(basically jumping to the right twice) in the 4th quarter and then taking the facemask, and not fazing him was amazing.
citadel just tied it up at 21 with wisc
Temple hung around with UConn, down 5 in their last drive with under a minute to go....Then on 4th and 6 inside the 15 they try a double reverse pass that gets tipped in the end zone and caught by an Owl, who looked to get 1 foot in. Replays showed that he probably caught it, but since it's Temple-UConn, there were 2 or 3 cameras at the game and no solid angle of the play to overturn it. Temple falls 22-17, but that's 2 valiant efforts and 1 egg. I'll take it.
Notre Dame might not win until they play Navy. They suck really bad.
Nice stop-the-bleeding game for Michigan. It makes them less of a joke to host the Nitts next week.
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
i will say tho that is psu somehow wins next week i see them going undeafeated
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
None in my mind. As always I'll hope this year is different but I doubt it is.
November 10
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
Jesus I wish I could make fun of you for this... sadly, this looks like a guaranteed L.
If there is a year PSU is going to beat Michigan this would be the one. I think as far as match ups go, it favors PSU. That being said I certainly am worried about this game. People can say what they will about Michigan, but they still have a ton of talent.
PSU needs to play Bowman more. The guy just seems like a game changer out there. Every time he touches the field, he makes big plays, and thats saying a lot considering how good the D is.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 15, 2007, 11:14:19 PM
PSU needs to play Bowman more. The guy just seems like a game changer out there. Every time he touches the field, he makes big plays, and thats saying a lot considering how good the D is.
I couldn't agree more, he reminds me of a young Arrington.
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 15, 2007, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
None in my mind. As always I'll hope this year is different but I doubt it is.
Exactly.
1. It's in their house.
2. Anthony Morelli easily sucks more than Michigan's backup QB.
3. Michigan coming off a feel-good pasting of Notre Dame. PSU coming off a relatively shaky victory against all-powerful Buffalo.
It's a stone cold mortal lock that Michigan wins this one, unfortunately. I might feel differently if they even threw Clark out there at QB... but probably not.
Good ESPN article about why Delaware won't play Delaware State in football
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2007, 05:49:30 PM
Good ESPN article about why Delaware won't play Delaware State in football
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
wow. is that shtein for real? amazing. I almost went to the University of Delaware but ended up at UNH - almost as snowy white as Newark.
I think I'll play NCAA07 tonight and be Delaware State and kick the shtein out of the blue hens.
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2007, 05:49:30 PM
Good ESPN article about why Delaware won't play Delaware State in football
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Translation: We're afraid Delaware State will beat our ass.
UD and Del State arent on NCAA for 360 Don. Its 100percent true, and its not the students that dont want to play Del State, nearly everyone in the state wants the 2 teams to play, but as they said, the old whiteys on the board wont allow it. Its really sad, but its definitely gonna change in the next 5 years, there has been too much outcry since 2000. Now a national story might push it into the forefront.
Quote from: Quasimoto on September 20, 2007, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2007, 05:49:30 PM
Good ESPN article about why Delaware won't play Delaware State in football
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Translation: We're afraid Delaware State will beat our ass.
maybe last year, but UD is stacked this year. Del State and Lavan have really made strides and seem to be making the program a legit threat. The problem is for years Del State just never had good recruits. The AD at Del. State wants to make them a D 1 school, playing UD would be a huge opportunity.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 20, 2007, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: Quasimoto on September 20, 2007, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: SunMo on September 20, 2007, 05:49:30 PM
Good ESPN article about why Delaware won't play Delaware State in football
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Translation: We're afraid Delaware State will beat our ass.
maybe last year, but UD is stacked this year. Del State and Lavan have really made strides and seem to be making the program a legit threat. The problem is for years Del State just never had good recruits. The AD at Del. State wants to make them a D 1 school, playing UD would be a huge opportunity.
There is no maybe. It may have to do with racism but if these two teams played I have a feeling Del. State would be so jacked up they would straight merk them.
Munson goes to UD
Jamaal Jackson went to Del State
Shocking.
Shooting at Del. State (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/NEWS/70921009) ::)
2 more Criminoles (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3030360)
Syracuse is working Louisville at home, Louisville defense is terrible
Temple had a great 2nd quarter, went into halftime tied at 21 with Bowling Green, and proceeded to give up 2 touchdowns to the BG defense on their first two offensive drives, 35-21
Syracuse is a 37-point underdog too. It'd be the biggest upset ever! since Appalachian State
Nebraska is losing at home to Ball State
Hawaii is a 57-point favorite vs Coastal Carolina
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
Can you get me the next powerball numbers?
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 24, 2007, 08:53:17 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
is there any question at all that mich will beat penn st next week
Can you get me the next powerball numbers?
He was not the only one that was sure of it.
Frankly, the 5 point loss was not as bad as I thought it'd be.
Yeah, I know you, SD and others felt the same... he was just the 1st to say it that I saw.
I wanted to feel confident about it too... but, damn... App St was only 3 weeks ago.
mich might have been upset by app st but penn st had beaten buffalo and FIU and not in convincing fashion
btw app st lost to wofford this weekend by 11
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 24, 2007, 09:44:58 AM
Yeah, I know you, SD and others felt the same... he was just the 1st to say it that I saw.
I wanted to feel confident about it too... but, damn... App St was only 3 weeks ago.
Even years when PSU was clearly the better team (there were some, not many) Michigan still owns them. Once they turned it on against ND is was obvious they had gotten their confidence level up enough to beat PSU. And as igy mentioned, PSU was overrated going in and Morelli sucks.
BTW, I'd say the Penn State win over FIU was quite convincing.
Hawaii didn't cover the 57. They won by 56. Losers.
tomorrow is one of the best lineups for college football i've seen in a long time.
Oklahoma-Texas, Tenn-Georgia, VT-Clemson, Ohio State-Purdue, Rutgers-Cinn, Mizzou-Nebraska
Oh, and lock of the week, Wisconsin +2.5 over Illinois. I don't know how that's even possible.
how do you not mention the best game of the day
lsu-fla
overall the day would have been much better had fla tex and okie not all lost last week
oh yeah i thought i wrote that one first.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 05, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Oh, and lock of the week, Wisconsin +2.5 over Illinois. I don't know how that's even possible.
good call Vegas Vic
Quote from: SunMo on October 06, 2007, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on October 05, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Oh, and lock of the week, Wisconsin +2.5 over Illinois. I don't know how that's even possible.
good call Vegas Vic
Ha! I was just coming to post the same thing.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 05, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Oh, and lock of the week, Wisconsin +2.5 over Illinois. I don't know how that's even possible.
this is why i haven't bet on college ball all year so far.
i can't believe you nerds thing of me that much.
temple won a game. champions of the woooooooooooooooooorld.
Quote from: MDS on October 06, 2007, 08:08:51 PM
temple won a game. champions of the woooooooooooooooooorld.
Wow. What school is THAT bad? May as well blow it up.
north illinois. baha.
holy shtein...stanford scored with 49 seconds left, if they make the extra point they will be up a point
LSU comes back from down 10 in the 4th to beat Florida 28-24.
but they didn't cover...that's all i care about, fargers
on college gameday the LSU fans are chanting "Teabag Teebow!"
it's awesome
Rutgers lost to Cincinnati again.
Die-hard is not having a good couple weeks
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 07, 2007, 12:01:44 AM
LSU comes back from down 10 in the 4th to beat Florida 28-24.
I was watching that game and when LSU was still down and was on a 4th down, the power went out. It sucked.
Just saw Stanford won against USC. Wow.
ha...f'ing South Florida is #2 in the AP poll and the first BCS rankings
(Ohio State is #1 in both)
South Florida would KILL Ohio State right now.
Boston College is overrated also, but they will go undefeated if they can win at VT next week. They won't, however, win at VT next week.
Back in the top 25... :paranoid
That won't last if Mike Hart misses any serious amount of time.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
ha...f'ing South Florida is #2 in the AP poll and the first BCS rankings
Good for them. JoePa started collecting social security before USF had a football team.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 15, 2007, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
ha...f'ing South Florida is #2 in the AP poll and the first BCS rankings
Good for them. JoePa started collecting social security before USF had a football team.
WAY before...
Anyone see Nevada vs Boise State last night? I saw the overtimes. 4OT, Boise State wins 69-67.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 15, 2007, 10:12:25 AM
That won't last if Mike Hart misses any serious amount of time.
Why do you say that? It's not like he's a big part of the offense or anything.
Please don't insult me by thinking that I'm actually serious...
Oh my God! You toats can't be serious! You're an idiot! I-D-I-O-T!
Insulted?
Yes.
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temple penn state upset of the century less than a month away get set go
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 14, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
ha...f'ing South Florida is #2 in the AP poll and the first BCS rankings
Not after Thursday night...
Why, are they playing Cincinnati or something?
No, if that was the case, we would lose.
stop talking about rutgers you dolts, temple is the talk of the town
John Chaney looks like an owl. Hoo Hoo motherfargers.
Die-Hard, the prophet!
pretty sure hes never picked against rutgers
That was a fun game to watch last night.
Little known fact-- the Eagles sent over reps to help Rutgers with their Punt Return game, and the results were spectacular.
David Wright was at the game :yay
I'm not a Rutgers fan by any means but I'll cheer for any team that beats a team from Tampa any day of the week.
It's just too bad the Scarlet Knights (gayest name in athletics, btw) didn't cripple a few Bulls last night. That would have been super.
i didnt know the bulls were from tampa...that isnt considered south florida is it?...i always assumed they were from somewhere around miami
speaking of wright did anyone see his sideline interview last night with erin andrews...wright was talking about how big of a vt fan he is that vt football is his first love...then he says but im also a big big east fan so i im rooting for rutgers tonight
his mind was spinning because of how gross he thought Erin Andrews was
yucky girls
I heart Erin Andrews.
And yes, USF is from Tampa. They play in Raymond James Stadium just like the Bucs. The funny thing is the Buccaneers don't even paint over their logos or anything. Everything is exactly the same as a Buccaneers game right down to the stillupfronty pirate ship cannons being shot off after touchdowns.
S-A-D.
Haha - nice edit.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 19, 2007, 10:08:26 AM
i didnt know the bulls were from tampa...that isnt considered south florida is it?...i always assumed they were from somewhere around miami
speaking of wright did anyone see his sideline interview last night with erin andrews...wright was talking about how big of a vt fan he is that vt football is his first love...then he says but im also a big big east fan so i im rooting for rutgers tonight
All I know is that the University of South Florida is three hours north of me. Not sure how they got the name.
Because the University of West Florida was already taken. It's located in Pensacola, Geo.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
Because the University of West Florida was already taken. It's located in Pensacola, Geo.
Figures. Never mind being accruate.
At least they saved Florida Gulf Coast Univeristy for Ft. Myers. Sure as heck beats University of Southwest Florida.
I watched one minute of it and saw Strahan on the sidelines.
QuoteThe funny thing is the Buccaneers don't even paint over their logos or anything.
They paint the entire 50-yard logo white, so you see a giant ghost flag logo behind a tiny USF bulls logo. It looks so stupid
temple-penn state tickets given out to the students tonight at some abortion fest called cherry and white night. i will not be attending this thing, so let's hope the students dont gobble up all the tickets and i can get one on monday.
There will be more Penn State fans at the game than Temple fans.
no shtein. they're getting themselves ready for a trip down to san antonio for the alamo bowl.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 19, 2007, 06:24:13 PM
There will be more Penn State fans at the game than Temple fans.
There's such a thing as Temple fans?
ha...Temple is halfway to bowl-eligible
First time in 17 years that they've won 3 in a row :-D
First time in 40 years that they've won 3 conference games in a row
Other notes:
-- Minnesota lost at home to North Dakota State
-- Time to feel old......John Elway's son Jack committed to Arizona State yesterday :-\
WOOO SON U ALL BE HATIN
easy stop posting stuff that is on the espn news ticker 40 times an hour
nm
Adam DiMichele out of the season. farg Temple wins 3 in a row and this happens.
The final 40 seconds of the Auburn/LSU game were crazy. If that pass isn't caught, fans would be calling for Les Miles' head today...
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SNL clip about Notre Dame football (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lM9AZV90Wc4)
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 21, 2007, 12:25:51 PM
SNL clip about Notre Dame football (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lM9AZV90Wc4)
Hahaha. I'd like to see a ND/Temple match-up this year.
Temple would win if DiMichele was playing. Kid is pretty damn good.
Quote from: MDS on October 21, 2007, 03:24:27 PM
Temple would win if DiMichele was playing. Kid is pretty damn good.
no
Notre Dame is a farging brutal. And can I seriously enjoy Temple winning 3 games in a row? I don't care that they were over Northern Illinois, Akron and Miami of Ohio, TEMPLE WON 3 GAMES. IN A ROW.
how on earth does someone let you write for them
its called talent?
The question still stands.
this ga-fla game is off the hook right now
sec football is so farging good
lol
mark richt at halftime
"i told them if they didnt get a penalty for celebrating after the first touchdown...i was gonna be mad at them"
gotta love that
did you see what the team did to make sure they got one
yeah, it was awesome, i've never seen an entire team run on the field before for anything other than a game winner
Oregon beat USC at home. Oregon was 5, USC was 9. so, by all accounts (ranking, game at home) Oregon was supposed to beat them, they were a 3 point favorite.
For whatever reason their fans rushed the field when the game was over...oh yeah, they live in Oregon, it was the highlight of 96% of their lives
From Division III : 15 laterals to win the game (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/10/28/trinity.lateralapalooza.ap/index.html)
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 28, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
From Division III : 15 laterals to win the game (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/10/28/trinity.lateralapalooza.ap/index.html)
Watch this.
It's one of the most amazing things I have ever seen.
Hahaha that's awesome. The video on that link doesn't work anymore so herehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=_eeEy060qrA (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_eeEy060qrA)
The announcers at the end are going nuts.
those announcers butchered that call from the start. There is a reason those players are Div. III and the announcers are Div III also
Holy smoke that was funny. Amazing as well.
About 5 VaTech jerseys came up missing today before the game. So GaTech gave them some old practice jerseys or something and the players took a sharpie and wrote their names on the back and blacked out the "Georgia Tech" name across the front.
OMG!
Navy beat Notre Dame ending a 43-year losing streak & Florida State beat Boston College yesterday.
:paranoid
Kansas put up 76 on Nebraska yesterday. I'm guessing Callahan is finished after this season...
OMG THE EAGLES SHULD SINE HIMZZz!
farg Ohio State
and Michigan.
prexactly
Final game at the Orange Bowl:
Virginia 48
Miami 0
ha
Wa-hoo-wa?
OSU fell to #7 in the AP poll. ha! BCS standings aren't out yet.
AP also has Kansas still at #4 which I don't agree with. The Big 12 is a damn good conference and I don't think a team accidently goes 10-0 there. Are they #1? Probably not but any team from a major conference that hasn't been beaten yet deserves to be ranked higher than 4th.
BCS standings:
1 LSU
2 Oregon
3 Kansas
4 Oklahoma
5 Missouri
6 West Virginia
7 Ohio State
8 Arizona State
9 Georgia
10 Virginia Tech
3rd is higher than 4th.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2007, 07:43:45 PM
OSU fell to #7 in the AP poll. ha! BCS standings aren't out yet.
AP also has Kansas still at #4 which I don't agree with. The Big 12 is a damn good conference and I don't think a team accidently goes 10-0 there. Are they #1? Probably not but any team from a major conference that hasn't been beaten yet deserves to be ranked higher than 4th.
Kansas is at 3 because of their schedule. They don't have a "signature" win yet. If they win out, they've got a great chance to jump Oregon though. They'll end up with victories over Missouri and probably Oklahoma while Oregon really doesn't have anyone left to play that'll boost their rating.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 10, 2007, 07:06:13 PM
and Michigan.
Love you too, snookems...
whose getting their outback bowl tickets? we are penn state!
Actually, PSU is probably not going to a bowl that good.
Ohio State is still likely to get the Big Ten championship and automatic BCS bid.
As no team is likely to get an at-large BCS bid, the better bowls are, in order:
Capital One - Illinois/Michigan
Outback - Michigan/Illinois
Insight - PSU/Wisconsin
Alamo - Wisconsin/PSU
Champs Sports - Purdue?
Motor City - Iowa?
osu-mich winner still wins the big 10 outright, correct?
none of those secondary bowls are automatic tie ins tho...so penn state because of their fans ability to gobble up tickets better than most could have a worse record than say illinois but go to a better bowl
kudos to psu nation for continually supporting a second/third tier big ten school.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 12, 2007, 02:51:37 PM
osu-mich winner still wins the big 10 outright, correct?
Yes.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 12, 2007, 02:52:49 PM
none of those secondary bowls are automatic tie ins tho...so penn state because of their fans ability to gobble up tickets better than most could have a worse record than say illinois but go to a better bowl
That is absolutely correct, but Penn State was just in the Outback last year, so assuming that the loser of the OSU/Michigan game doesn't get a BCS bid, they are likely to end up in the Capital One. Then, Illinois is likely to get the Outback, since it's rare for a team to go to the same bowl two years in a row. Plus, I'd think that if Florida gets the SEC bid for it, a matchup against their spurned ex-coach Ron Zook could get some media play. Also, the Illinois team is exciting with young talent and a mobile erratic QB, and their fan base is actually pretty big.
Unless the Big Ten gets one of the at-large BCS bids, Penn State will be playing a bowl game in December.
colt brennen gets clocked.
we were sitting right by where this happened. whole stadium saw this coming and you could definitely hear it. dude had no idea what planet he was on when he walked off.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kc2RqGAh5NQ
get utah's head coach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZx5i7LMKu0
i guess they don't have much to get excited about in Utah
i love that guy! the fact he didn't clear his throat once during the post game pc made me even happier.
Completely unsurprising that Oregon is laughing-stock bad without Dixon under center. Sucks that he got hurt last night. He's fun to watch.
Ryan Leafs brother is utter garbage and it was sad to watch him attempt to play QB
that was painful watching Oregon without Dixon. about as painful it'll be for Hawaii tonight if Colt doesn't play.
Seriously, intjecting something relating to Hawaii in every post is nearly as lame as calling you out for it from my phone.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 16, 2007, 04:01:31 PM
Seriously, intjecting something relating to Hawaii in every post is nearly as lame as calling you out for it from my phone.
dude, subject matter is college football. Texas, Florida, Ohio, California, West Virginia, Pennsylvannia, yes even Hawaii. Does it really matter? You inject what you like, I'll inject what I like. Just change the name of this thread to "Big 10 Football" and I'll stay out.
oh by the way Fred, the Navy QB is from Hawaii.
oh and Jordon Dizon Colorado OLB, Butkus finalist, Hawaii.
New AP top 5:
1 LSU
2 Kansas
3 Missouri
4 West Virginia
5 Ohio State
UD and DSU will be meeting for first time in the history of the schools if I remember correctly, in the D1 subdivision playoffs. I'm pretty sure it will be shown on ESPN. They just did a piece on Outside The Lines on the two schools not playing and DSU thinking it's racially motivated. Meh, big news here anyway. Lot of people in the state are excited about this game.
Quote from: Munson on November 18, 2007, 07:37:30 PM
UD and DSU will be meeting for first time in the history of the schools if I remember correctly, in the D1 subdivision playoffs. I'm pretty sure it will be shown on ESPN. They just did a piece on Outside The Lines on the two schools not playing and DSU thinking it's racially motivated. Meh, big news here anyway. Lot of people in the state are excited about this game.
I'm definitely trying to get tickets, its been a long time in the making.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 18, 2007, 09:23:47 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 18, 2007, 07:37:30 PM
UD and DSU will be meeting for first time in the history of the schools if I remember correctly, in the D1 subdivision playoffs. I'm pretty sure it will be shown on ESPN. They just did a piece on Outside The Lines on the two schools not playing and DSU thinking it's racially motivated. Meh, big news here anyway. Lot of people in the state are excited about this game.
I'm definitely trying to get tickets, its been a long time in the making.
If I was a UD student I'd so be there. But my high school (Concord)'s playing in the playoffs this friday night, and I still know a lot of the kids on the team so I'll get my share of live football for the weekend. We're playing the team that we've beat 2 out of the laast 3 years in the championship in the second round :boom
I'll be flippin to ESPN when it's on though to check the score. Omar Cuff has a good chance to go pro.
is the game at DU? This is going to be cool.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 19, 2007, 04:20:25 AM
is the game at DU? This is going to be cool.
You mean UD? lol yeah I think it is at University of Delaware. Their stadium has 22,000 capacity, where as Del State's is more like a big high school stadium. Del State's actually where they hold the two high school division championship games. Which makes no sense because its down in Dover and the champions are pretty much always from upstate anymore.
As expected, Lloyd Carr announces retirement (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Al.BxtKFpeQobQyHDYuE.K85nYcB?slug=ap-michigan-carr&prov=ap&type=lgns)
go the school with all the black peoples
LaSalle dropped football again
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 19, 2007, 11:01:40 AM
As expected, Lloyd Carr announces retirement (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Al.BxtKFpeQobQyHDYuE.K85nYcB?slug=ap-michigan-carr&prov=ap&type=lgns)
(http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/les.jpg)
+ (http://www.blipsy.com/graphics/layouts/university_of_michigan_wolverines_thumb.jpg)
= Feva happy mofo
Why would he downgrade his job? LSU's program is in much better shape than Michigan's.
Plus he would have to live in Michigan and be associated with Michigan and no one wants that.
he went to michigan and played under his idol bo schembeckler
game
set
match
Doesn't he know that people in the midwest are fat?
i don't like the way he wears his hat
reason #42 why college football in the south is the best
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7467808
because the coaches are drama queens?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
reason #42 why college football in the south is the best
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7467808
I'd say it's reason #1 why Nick Saban should be put to death.
if you cant appreciate the awesomeness in this quote then you should be put to death
"Changes in history usually occur after some kind of catastrophic event," Saban said during the opening remarks of his weekly news conference. "It may be 9-11, which sort of changed the spirit of America relative to catastrophic events. Pearl Harbor kind of got us ready for World War II, or whatever, and that was a catastrophic event."
I should be put to death for a lot of reasons but thinking Saban's a clueless, egotistical assbag isn't one of them, sweetheart.
being an egomaniacal assbag and dropping money quotes are not mutually exclusive....see buddy ryan
but thats besides the fact...only in the south could they compare a football loss to pearl harbor....and that pumpkin is awesome
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 20, 2007, 11:52:48 AM
Why would he downgrade his job? LSU's program is in much better shape than Michigan's.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
he went to michigan and played under his idol bo schembeckler
game
set
match
^^^
This is why. He's made it no secret that UM is his dream job. He was already asked about the job yesterday and while he declined to address it, he didn't say "no".
In College Football, not saying "no" = Where do I sign?
Not saying 'no' always means yes. In every situation. Sometimes even 'no' means yes. Especially with regards to the butt.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2007, 03:15:23 PM
if you cant appreciate the awesomeness in this quote then you should be put to death
"Changes in history usually occur after some kind of catastrophic event," Saban said during the opening remarks of his weekly news conference. "It may be 9-11, which sort of changed the spirit of America relative to catastrophic events. Pearl Harbor kind of got us ready for World War II, or whatever, and that was a catastrophic event."
farging germans bombing pearl harbor really was catastrophic.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 20, 2007, 05:11:05 PM
Not saying 'no' always means yes. In every situation. Sometimes even 'no' means yes. Especially with regards to the butt.
That would suffice as an excellent credo for any young man looking for direction.
yea saban really exemplified everything he was talking about when he bailed on lsu for miami, then bailed on them for bama. farging prick.
The colorado/nebraska game was pretty good.
65-51...wow
Delaware destroyed Delaware State. Smug whitey wins again.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 23, 2007, 04:20:07 PM
The colorado/nebraska game was pretty good.
damm! 35-24 Nebraska when I turned it on. Has Dan Hawkins turned this thing around or did the huskers just cash it in the past few weeks?
Ganz threw picks on consecutive drives in the 3rd quarter.
thank god you have a Blackberry so you were able to update us with that
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 23, 2007, 04:26:03 PM
Delaware destroyed Delaware State. Smug whitey wins again.
is this Delaware QB that good? My dad just called and said Flacco is expected to be drafted.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 23, 2007, 04:40:27 PM
Ganz threw picks on consecutive drives in the 3rd quarter.
yeah, saw the first two. Nebraska gives up 76 against Kansas, puts up 73 on K State and today they let Colorado score 65! Callahan might as well stay in Denver for the rest of the year.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 23, 2007, 04:26:03 PM
65-51...wow
Delaware destroyed Delaware State. Smug whitey wins again.
DelState was D2 for a while, I'd say give them a few more years in the subdivision and they MIGHT be able to compete...but if anyone really thought DelState was on UD's level right now they were crazy and just trying to make UD look racist.
From what I've heard/seen, Flacco could be drafted. But the real star of the team is Omar Cuff...scored 7 TD's in week one, and has had a great season. He'll probably get drafted in the later rounds, if not get picked up as an UDFA somewhere for special teams.
well, DelState was in the playoffs, so i guess they had to be somewhat competitive
Go UCONN
Another likely BCS championship game participant goes down... Arkansas beats LSU in Baton Rouge 50-48 in 3OT.
once again the sec cbs game is a classic
cfb>>>>>>>>>nfl
it was a good game, but that last drive by arkansas in regulation was horrendous. worse than the eagles in the superbowl.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3125379
Callahan got the hook at Husker Heaven.
Quote from: MDS on November 24, 2007, 02:26:50 AM
it was a good game, but that last drive by arkansas in regulation was horrendous. worse than the eagles in the superbowl.
I disagree.
P.S. Did McFadden win the Heisman yesterday? I think so.
They needed 20-25 yards to get in fg range and ran 4 plays in 40 seconds.
Oh, it was awful, but certainly NOT worse than the Eagles.
perhaps. i mean, their qb didnt puke.
temple finished the mac season 4-4 and 4-8 overall. next year they should be in the running for the mac title game, the year after they should be in it. we will be a good. at the mac level.
Another instant classic SEC game in Kentucky today.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 24, 2007, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: MDS on November 24, 2007, 02:26:50 AM
it was a good game, but that last drive by arkansas in regulation was horrendous. worse than the eagles in the superbowl.
I disagree.
P.S. Did McFadden win the Heisman yesterday? I think so.
Teebow looked good today.
Mizzou looking good right now as well.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l81/ATXHogan/tebowsgf.jpg)
tits
ahhhhhwwrriiigghhttt tetsbow!
(http://www.withleather.com//ul/959-TebowsPiece678.jpg)
holy farg that right tit is bigger than me
New BCS rankings: Missouri #1, West Virginia #2
There's rumors floating that Kirk Ferentz has been offered the Michigan job
Missouri will lose to Oklahoma. WVU/OSU title game.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 25, 2007, 08:22:28 PM
Missouri will lose to Oklahoma. WVU/OSU title game.
that's what were afraid of. have to agree with you there, OU to beat Missouri.
the rainbows should be in the national championship.
Mike Sherman is the new head coach at Texas A&M
Chan Gailey fired by Georgia Tech
Duke and Southern Miss also fired their head coaches
Mike Sherman doesn't strike me as having enough inner motivation to be successful on a collegiate level.
Duke changing head coaches is hilarious. What does it matter?
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 26, 2007, 01:15:34 PM
Mike Sherman doesn't strike me as having enough inner motivation to be successful on a collegiate level.
Duke changing head coaches is hilarious. What does it matter?
the Sherman hiring is strange. this is like Callihan part II.
Quote from: MDS on November 26, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
the rainbows should be in the national championship.
yes, with such impressive victories over Northern Colorado, Charleston Southern, Utah State (sorry Kevin Curtis fans) and Idaho, that should be just enough to put them there.
hey, Tim Brando loves him sum Rainbow Warriors.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 26, 2007, 07:54:54 PM
the Sherman hiring is strange. this is like Callihan part II.
sherman actually had true NFL success, unlike Callahan. i think he's a decent coach.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 20, 2007, 07:55:12 AM
(http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/les.jpg) + (http://www.blipsy.com/graphics/layouts/university_of_michigan_wolverines_thumb.jpg)
Michigan gets permission to talk to Miles after the SEC Championship (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3132538) :yay
you better hope that Michigan doesn't ever have to go into OT next year.
Herbstreit says Miles to Michigan is a done deal and should be announced in a few days
UPDATE: Kirk is wrong. Miles is staying at LSU (http://blog.mlive.com/jim_carty/2007/12/miles_staying_at_lsu.html)
Delaware is playiing against UNI 5 minutes left with a 5 point lead right now. Delaware about to get the ball. Its actually on MASN
Edit: some big plays by Cuff and Flacco today Cuff the rb has 38 td's on the year so far
U of D ended up winning against #1 seed and undefeated University of Northern Iowa. 39-27
what a great farging day of college football...how much better is it than the pros...its not even remotely close
The day is not even over.
#1 Missouri....DEAD
#2 West Virginia....DEAD
Hawaii's undefeated season...DYING
f'ing Ohio State is headed to the championship after being off for 2 weeks
Hawaii comes back from a 21-0 first quarter deficit to take a 35-28 lead with :40 left. Brennan with an awesome final game on the island
wow....Washington right down the field and inside the 5 with :12 left. Crazy....
2nd down...pass is complete to the receiver for a TD but he fumbles it coming down and knocks it off himself, right to a DB for the game-saving INT :o
Undefeated season and a BCS game
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 02, 2007, 03:11:28 AM
Hawaii comes back from a 21-0 first quarter deficit to take a 35-28 lead with :40 left. Brennan with an awesome final game on the island
wow....Washington right down the field and inside the 5 with :12 left. Crazy....
2nd down...pass is complete to the receiver for a TD but he fumbles it coming down and knocks it off himself, right to a DB for the game-saving INT :o
Undefeated season and a BCS game
can't believe you stayed up to watch the game. thanks for the recap of that last play. we were there and no one could figure out what happened. we all thought it was a td and overtime (if Willingham decided not to go for two). next thing you know the ball pops up in the air and a Hawaii player is running it back the other way. place was going nuts so we weren't watching the replay. just got home so hopefully espnnews shows it. huge UW contingent showed up. place was rockin'.
So, let the debate begin...
OSU to play _____? in the National Championship game.
Probably LSU since no one else seemed to want it
Quote from: Don Ho on December 02, 2007, 05:49:20 AM
can't believe you stayed up to watch the game.
I was planning on it until they lost 3 fumbles in the first quarter. I watched the first drive of the 2nd quarter then turned it off.
I got back from a party in East Norriton and figured "what the hell" since it was the 3rd quarter...
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 01, 2007, 09:18:52 PM
what a great farging day of college football...how much better is it than the pros...its not even remotely close
how true. except for the birds game which i had a hard time getting excited about, today's games sucked royal shtein. yesterday's college games were awesome. that's what it's all about.
to bad they played that VT/BC game in Jacksonville to a stadium that looked empty. It was actually a pretty good game.
oh my. Missouri got hosed.
waiting for joe pa to die?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3145205
lol @ michigan
That's crazy. Who would have thought someone would stay at RUTGERS rather than go to Michigan? I guess Die-Hard gets a notch over fellow Mets fan Feva here.
I'd love if Schiano would come to Penn State whenever Joe is ready to quit/die, but I think they'd be more likely to make the rather large mistake of promoting from within.
Navy's head coach Paul Johnson is headed to Georgia Tech
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 07, 2007, 01:00:39 PM
Navy's head coach Paul Johnson is headed to Georgia Tech
will he run the same kind of offense?
Tim Tebow won the Heisman.
Love the acceptance speech.
the heisman is about as relevant as horse racing
just went down the list with my wife on some of the great heisman winners over the past 15 years:
Ty Detmer
Gino Torreta
Charlie Ward
Rashaan Salaam
Danny Wuerffuel
Ricky Williams
Ron Dayne
Chris Weinke
Eric Crouch
Jason White
And may we never forget Andre Ware.
gordie lockbaum
i think you meant joe dudek.
Just an update, University of Delaware will be playing Appalachian State tongiht at 8pm on Espn2 in the championship game. Shoud be an interesting game. App state is clearly the better team, but they lost Corey Lynch the all american safety, and cornerback Justin Woezeah. That's huge losses to that D and clearly something Flacco can target.
WV's Rich Rodriguez is being mentioned for the Michigan job
Delaware is being fed a Cockmeat sandwich tonight 21-0
wow, Rodriguez left WV for the Michigan job
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3157227
Ha, another coach not good enough to beat OSU
Keep guzzlin' on the haterade, son...
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 16, 2007, 02:49:27 PM
wow, Rodriguez left WV for the Michigan job
I told you all he was as good as gone!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534
FSU Criminoles at it again.
things like that were cool when they were winning championships...now its just sad and pathetic
Oh and it was never cool.
Nothing quite like the real class educational institutions like Florida State and Penn State, eh kids?
not every school can be a football factory like temple
Jason McKie, Raheem Brock, Dan Klecko...the list just goes on.
Quote from: MDS on December 18, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
Jason McKie, Raheem Brock, Dan Klecko...the list stops right there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 18, 2007, 02:21:48 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534
FSU Criminoles at it again.
The Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl? Those 20 kids should be the only ones forced to play that game.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 18, 2007, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 18, 2007, 02:21:48 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534
FSU Criminoles at it again.
The Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl? Those 20 kids should be the only ones forced to play that game.
I pray that my company never, ever has a meeting at a Gaylord Hotel site.
ESPN and Under Armour felt that we needed a second high school all-star game and put it opposite the other one on NBC
Pryor's first drive....95 yards for a TD. It's going to suck so bad for Penn State fans when he goes to Ohio State or Michigan...
watched that this morning. funny. wtf? what was there, 75 people in attendance?
freddie, junes gone! junes gone! :'(
apparently SMU is offering $5M over 4 years and pretty much free reign to run the program. pretty ironic as Craig James is one of the biggest Hawaii bashers out there.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Jan/05/br/br8654291370.html
That really sucks. They're going to be irrelevant for awhile again. Brennan, Bess, Rivers, Hawthorne all gone. Isn't Graunke a senior too?
It makes sense for SMU though. They've been terrible the entire decade.
SMU is worse than the Arizona Cardinals. They've had one winning season since 1986 (6-5 in 1997).
Remember SMU and the "Death Penalty" following the Dickerson/James era? The Mustangs have never recovered.
Graunke wil be a senior.
June Jones takes the SMU job
Ohio State sucks again. LSU by 14
Is there a bigger fraud in college sports than Big Ten Football?
Besides Temple Football?
'Football' should be in quotes, Sarge.
ACC football's pretty pathetic too.
And lol at Temple.
I hate Ohio State more than any other team, but by the end of it I really just wanted them to make it close.
it really should have been closer...they outgained lsu but had that dropped touchdown where they ended up getting no points and then some of the dumbest penalties ever...they still woudlnt have won and lsu is clearly a better team but it should have been a better game
If this season doesn't validate the need for a playoff in college football then nothing will.
Everyone acknowledges the 'need'. No one wants to deal with the sponsorship uproar when the 'bowls' become obsolete.
They wouldn't have to be obsolete. They could simply incorporate the four major bowls into the national championship playoff.
It's doable but you're right about there being too much resistance from the powers that be to let it happen.
I wasn't really talking about the 4 major bowls. I'm talking about the Bob's Big Boy Banana Bowl presented by the Discovery Channel. The rinky dink bowls that represent marketing and decent chunks of change for many many businesses.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 08, 2008, 10:02:57 AM
I wasn't really talking about the 4 major bowls. I'm talking about the Bob's Big Boy Banana Bowl presented by the Discovery Channel. The rinky dink bowls that represent marketing and decent chunks of change for many many businesses.
I don't understand why any of them would go away or have any less interest than they do now. The playoff system could encompass as many or as few teams as are viable to keep the rest of the bowl system in place.
True. The problem is that the only thing people would care about or watch would be the playoffs. Plus, it's a rather massive change in structure. These companies have something in place that works and would fight change. Guaranteed.
Would there still be a month off between the end of the season and the main bowls that are part of the playoff? Will college kids be able to afford tickets to two or three major bowl games + travel?
im not sure how a playoff would effect non playoff bowls anymore than a championship game effects the non chanpionship game bowls now
anyway theres no need for a playoff...they need to implement a plus one system...you dont need to take it any further than that
all they champions from the d1 conferences plus a few wild card teams in a 16 team, 4 week tourney. winnar.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 08, 2008, 09:57:58 AM
They wouldn't have to be obsolete. They could simply incorporate the four major bowls into the national championship playoff.
It's doable but you're right about there being too much resistance from the powers that be to let it happen.
Yep. I got pulled into a meeting before I could finish typing this up but I think this would eb be a good way to implement a playoff into college football.
Let's say the top 16 teams get in. That's 8 games one weekend, followed by 4 the next weekend, then 2 games and then the Nat'l Champ. Game. Even if you include a bye week between the semi-final and NCG, that's still only going to take 5 weeks to complete which would still end the season right about now. So it's not going to have the players going into late January or anything.
All the NCAA and Bowl Committee or whatever the hell it is need to do is make each game in the playoffs a different bowl game. So maybe during the first week of the playoffs you've got some of the "ghetto" bowl games that no one cares about. Obviously, the further you get into the playoffs, the more recognizable the bowl games become.
Example:
Round 1:
1 vs 16 - Outback Bowl
2 vs 15 - GMAC Bowl
3 vs 14 - Insight.com Bowl
4 vs 13 - Tidy Bowl
5 vs 12 - General Mills Cereal Bowl
6 vs 11 - Cheech and Chong Smoka Bowl
7 vs 10 - Pottery Bowl
8 vs 9 - Toilet Bowl
Round 2:
1 vs 8 - Capitol One Bowl
2 vs 7 - Cotton Bowl
3 vs 6 - Fiesta Bowl
4 vs 5 - Liberty Bowl
Round 3:
1 vs 4 - Orange Bowl
2 vs 3 - Suger Bowl
NCS:
1 vs 2 - Rose Bowl
Obviously the bowl names would be different based on sponsorships from year to year and the NCG could still be hosted by one of the major bowls each year but I think the format and concept is pretty sound. Not to mention that all of the other lame ass bowls out there can still be played by teams ranked 17th and beyond. And I think the sponsors would go nuts over this. Just using the example that went with, don't you think that Outback wouldn't love the idea of sponsoring a game being played by the top ranked team in the country like an LSU, OSU or USC? Or do you think they'd rather have a game between the 15th and 23rd ranked teams...or who ever the hell it is they get to play?
And it doesn't have to be 16 teams that get it. 12 or 8 would work too. Either way, it's not going to diminish the regular season because that 1 or 2 losses could still knock you out of the hunt. I just think that out of all the teams in the country, if you're able to finish the season ranked in the top 16 then you should at least be given the opportunity to play for a national title.
there will never ever be a 16 team playoff in college football...no point in even discussing it...nor should there be as it would really hurt the regular season which is perfect right now and what makes cfb the worlds best sport
i personally like it just how it is...but i could live with the plus one johnson..anything more than that is unessecary imo...and while i strongly disagree with them i definitely understand the arguments for a playoff
i don't think the plus one deal really makes a difference. if it were in place this year, who does the ohio state-lsu winner play next? georgia? usc? just one more way for people to argue. some sort of mini-tournament is the only thing that could make it definitive.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 12:41:41 PM
there will never ever be a 16 team playoff in college football...no point in even discussing it...nor should there be as it would really hurt the regular season which is perfect right now and what makes cfb the worlds best sport
Like I said, it doesn't have to be a 16 team playoff. I just think that the top 16 teams in the country deserve a shot at it. It could be a twelve team system or even an 8 team playoff. Any one of those 3 would be fine with me. And I'll admit that a 12 or 8 team playoff places much more emphasis on the regular season than a 16 team playoff would. A 16 team system is just my personal preference.
nothing will ever be definitive...the winner of the ncaa nasketball tournament is more often than not not the best team in the country
i dont think you even need a plus one format but if you did you would have had lsu usc...georgia was not a factor this year...everyone knew usc and lsu were the two best teams and the winner of that game this weekend would have been as close to a clear cut best team as you could get
imo the only time a plus one format would even be needed is if you had three undefeated bcs teams
the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 12:52:34 PM
the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they
How do you figure? The conference championship determines who goes to the BCS bowls, why couldn't it determine who goes to the playoffs? Use the current format to determine the 8 teams in the 4 majors, and have it count as the first round of the playoffs.
The current system is only good for blow-hards like you who care more about talking shtein than watching football. Using your logic, the NFL should skip the whole playoff thing and just put NE and Dallas in the Super Bowl, and screw everyone else.
I'd argue the skins are obviously more deserving than Dallas in that scenario. They've been through so much this year.
It would just be crazy if the game was held on February 1st!
Quote from: Cerevant on January 08, 2008, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 12:52:34 PM
the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they
How do you figure? The conference championship determines who goes to the BCS bowls, why couldn't it determine who goes to the playoffs? Use the current format to determine the 8 teams in the 4 majors, and have it count as the first round of the playoffs.
The current system is only good for blow-hards like you who care more about talking shtein than watching football. Using your logic, the NFL should skip the whole playoff thing and just put NE and Dallas in the Super Bowl, and screw everyone else.
#1 - the conference championships do not strictly determine who goes to bsc bowls now...for example kansas and oklahoma made it this year so did georgia and lsu...georgia didnt even make its conference championship game...you cant say you want a playoff to determine the best team then have automatic bids...rutgers could have easily won the big east this year but they had no business being in a national playoff...this is the kind of garbage that would happen with a playoff...its not like colllege backetball where you have a 20-25 teams that could win it all...in football theres really only two or three a year...maybe a fourth in the odd year...id rather the full body of a regular season determine who goes rather than some automatic bids...the one change i would like to see is more of a human element in who goes to the championship game...id be fine with a select group of sportwriters or even a selection committe ala cbb to determine it...that way you could factor in things like injuries in the case of a usc this year
#2 - i watch more college football than anyone i know and certainly more than anyone in this discussion...so to say id rather talk about it than watch is pretty assinine...the reason i want it to stay as is is precisely because i watch college football from noon to midnight almost every saturday where you have unbelievable edge of your seat games every single weekend...what other sport can you say that in...not college basketball...not the nba or nhl...and as good as the nfl regular season is it doesnt come close to being as meaningful as cfb...i dont want any of that taken away...like i said i respect the arguments of having a tournament because people need to have everythign wrapped up in a neat nice bow or they arent happy...but the ironic thing is that a tournament wouldnt anymore determine a true champion than what we have now..it would just let simpletons
think they have a more definitive champion
An issue with using conference champions only: what happens if Notre Dame is actually good for once and has a shot at a title?
Make them join a conference.
The BCS has 2 at large bids.
an automatic bid tourney would also fail because with conferences being so big now no one plays balenced schedules...you have to take every teams entire body work...and compare them because its not all equal...thats why i like the current system of analyzing who the two best teams are and having a superbowl btwn them...i just wish people would determine it rather than a computer
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2008, 03:30:51 PM
An issue with using conference champions only: what happens if Notre Dame is actually good for once and has a shot at a title?
Not to mention that not every conference has a bonafide conf champ game.
there are 11 conferences and more often than not the best teams in those conferences win them. add in 5 at large bids selected basketball style and its all good. it wouldnt take away from the regular season because winning your conference would be the only way to guarantee a spot in the tourney. it would make teams schedule better ooc games because they cant just count on winning their conference to make it.
Well since we're revamping the entire postseason, we might as well make the BigTen (East/West) and Pac-10 (North/South) split up into divisions and play a title game. Now you have the following:
ACC (title game)
BigTen (title game)
BigXII (title game)
C-USA (title game)
MAC (title game)
Pac-10 (title game)
SEC (title game)
Big East (champ only)
MWC (champ only)
Sun Belt (champ only)
WAC (champ only)
Notre Dame/Navy
That gives you 12 teams. Looks OK, but then you get Kansas and Georgia complaining that they don't have a shot at the title but Florida Atlantic and Central Michigan do. You also get complaints about how the bracket should be set up. Do you go by the AP rankings, which are already judgmental? Do you make it geographic, like the Pac-10 champ vs the WAC champ and the BigXII champ vs the Mountain West champ?
you have a committee seed them 1-16, who knows where the games are played. maybe done doubleheader style near the top seeds location, but how many people are gonna sit there from noon till eight and watch football? excuse me, stay sober.
basically im trying to get the little guys like the mac, wac, sun belt, etc. chances to play the big boys. teams like temple never get the chance to play lsu and texas in a winnable setting. so this is that chance. copying the basketall tourney essentially.
Quote from: MDS on January 08, 2008, 04:26:54 PM
teams like temple never get the chance to play lsu and texas in a winnable setting.
winnable setting. ha.
there are 11 conferences and more often than not the best teams in those conferences win them. add in 5 at large bids selected basketball style and its all good. it wouldnt take away from the regular season because winning your conference would be the only way to guarantee a spot in the tourney. it would make teams schedule better ooc games because they cant just count on winning their conference to make it.
youre assuming that every year every conference has a team that is deserving of the title...which is never the case...all youre doing is making a watered down tournament that would cheapen the regular season...teams would now know they can lose three games and still make the "playoffs"...thats awful...this year was the first time a two loss team has won a title and you wanna make a playoffs with three and four loss teams....why
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 04:42:56 PM
.thats awful...this year was the first time a two loss team has won a title and you wanna make a playoffs with three and four loss teams....why
because i want to see Georgia and Michigan and USC and Kansas have a chance to play on after winning their bowl games
precisely.
basically its the "8 team" tournament idea compounded to include all the winners of all the conferences so it has that basketall tournament style feel of the little guys going up against the big guys. boise state beating oklahoma was one of the best games/moments in college ball history because you never see big program vs. nothing program in a big time game. now we'll see it every year, and on the year that a western michigan or florida atlantic beats lsu or something, itll be great to watch.
I wanna see the top of Jessica Alba's head bobbing up and down on my meatcicle but that ain't gonna happen either.
well no shtein, we'd be lucky to get a plus one format. everyone makes a ginormous amount of money off those bowl games and going to a playoff format will ruin that.
you cant have a playoff game between lsu and michigan as the sugar bowl. you cant have 3th place big 10 and 3rd place pac 10 in the rose bowl either (though this would be a good way for psu to finally win the rose bowl).
so yea, it stays.
michigan lost to appalachian state
kansas was a fraud
georgia didnt even win their league division
usc lost to stanford at home
that being said id be open to a plus one game if you wanted to include a usc but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team
lsu did nothing this year that showed they werent best team...having boston college and brigham young in a playoff would do nothing to change that
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 05:06:25 PM
but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team
so you don't want computers picking the number 1, but you don't want ohio state, who was ranked #1 by both of the human polls, number 1 either. it has to go one of those ways.
Georgia looked the best of any of those teams down the stretch although USC looked phenomenal in the Rose Bowl.
I would have liked to have seen LSU, OSU, and the other two in a final four, but again, how would that even work? There's just too much money involved to change things entirely and anything else than a full legitimate playoff makes an abbreviated playoff seem like a sham.
File under: Reasons why people get their farging smug asses beaten in stadiums.
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Looks like DonHo's team lost another WR to the draft (Ryan Grice-Mullen). Back to mediocrity for Hawaii...
Quote from: phattymatty on January 08, 2008, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 05:06:25 PM
but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team
so you don't want computers picking the number 1, but you don't want ohio state, who was ranked #1 by both of the human polls, number 1 either. it has to go one of those ways.
im just throwing out another option...i have no current problem with the system as is and was fine with ohio state in the final...as i would have been with usc...my point is that a playoff will not make a more definitive winner than the current system...and it will make the superlative regular season worse...i dont wanna see 13 weeks weakened so teams like boston college and kansas can participate in a playoff...like i said before do we really wanna see a four loss team in a national playoff...what does that achieve exactly?
How does a playoff weaken the regular season? The way things are now, if a team loses one game they are basically done for the season.
Quote from: Cerevant on January 09, 2008, 08:38:35 AM
How does a playoff weaken the regular season? The way things are now, if a team loses one game they are basically done for the season.
Good point.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 06:36:36 AM
my point is that a playoff will not make a more definitive winner than the current system.
you can have opinions on everything else, but i can't possibly see how you think this...it's assinine. having the 4 or 8 top teams in the country play for title is infinitely better than having 2 teams play for based on a regular season
because if you go four or eight then you go ten or 12 and whose to say 14 shouldnt be in
what you want is the best two teams in the final...a playoff certainly doesnt do that...and if you think it does then youre saying you know who are the best two teams before the playoff starts anyway so why not try and make sure those two teams are picked for the championship
to me cfb has the ultimate playoff already...its called the regular season
Quote from: Cerevant on January 09, 2008, 08:38:35 AM
How does a playoff weaken the regular season? The way things are now, if a team loses one game they are basically done for the season.
youre making my point...the fact that you cant lose two three or four games (this year aside) and still make the final is exactly what makes every regular season game so great...you have like 25 do or die games a year...for example how degraded would ohio state michigan become if both teams knew regardless of the outcome of the game they were going to a playoff anyway...a playoff would take away from so many regular season and conf championship games
God help me, I'm starting to agree with IGY on this.
the regular season is a playoff is such bullshtein...as proved by LSU and Ohio State, as proved when Miami beat FSU in 2000 and didn't make the championship game, as proved over and over and over and over
and stop with "if you let 8 in, then 9 and 10 will complain" so what? in the NCAA, 65, 66, and 67 complain when they don't make it in, i guess they shouldn't have a tournament either? it's much easier to say farg off to #9 then it is to #3...why didn't Georgia get to play in the championship game? just because they didn't win the SEC? Oklahoma got to play, and win it when they didn't win the Big 12 years ago. anyone who tries to justify anything other than a playoff can't.
65 doesn't complain in the NCAA - they get a play-in game!
66 doesn't though.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 09:35:38 AM
the regular season is a playoff is such bullshtein...as proved by LSU and Ohio State, as proved when Miami beat FSU in 2000 and didn't make the championship game, as proved over and over and over and over
and stop with "if you let 8 in, then 9 and 10 will complain" so what? in the NCAA, 65, 66, and 67 complain when they don't make it in, i guess they shouldn't have a tournament either? it's much easier to say farg off to #9 then it is to #3...why didn't Georgia get to play in the championship game? just because they didn't win the SEC? Oklahoma got to play, and win it when they didn't win the Big 12 years ago. anyone who tries to justify anything other than a playoff can't.
cant compare basketball and football...apples and oranges...if youre talking cfb playoff theres max four teams a year that derserve to be in it...theres 30 plus in basketball
forget the conference...georgia didnt win its sec DIVISION...they have no argument...theres no one in the country that thinks georgia is better than lsu...a college football playoff would be disasterous....the better option if you think the wrong teams get in the championship game every year is to have a better selection system as to who those teams are...a cbb type committee that selects the two teams for example
i dont know how you can watch this past cfb regular season and not see how great it was and not see how if you institute a 16 team playoff how it would make much of what is so great right now obsolete...the entire sec season was a college football playoff..except it was in unreal cfb atmoshpheres...not in artifical neutral site dome games with corporate crowds
Given the current BCS rules, excluding a championship game, the 4 major bowls would have been:
Rose: Ohio State vs. USC
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. WVU
Orange: VT vs. Georgia
Sugar: LSU vs. Hawaii
The only argument would be about last spot (Georgia), because no other conference winner was even in the top 15. If you really want to be anal, give it to BYU...same difference.
Add 2 games matching up the winners of these 4 bowl games. Have the winners of those two games meet in the NCG. How would this destroy the fabric of the universe?
it wouldnt destroy anything but it would weaken the regular season all because you want a bunch of teams that have no business playing for the national championship in a phony playoff
what it would weaken...
it would have made that pitt wva game meaningless
it pretty much makes a mockery of the sec...where is tenn in your mix...they won their sec division and blew out georgia
the main thing is that 99% of cfb seasons there are not more than three deserving teams of being in the champ game....generally there are only two...the playoff argument holds weight this year more than usual because of the craziness of the regular season but im not willing to hurt the regular season and conference championship games because of a random odd year
again what it comes down to is making sure you have the two best possible teams in the final...a playoff doesnt do this...i fail to see how the positives of a playoff outweigh its negatives...in fact im not sure what the positives of a football playoff would be...its not basketball
since when do the 2 best teams in any sport ever play in the final game? rarely if ever
it's about putting the best teams, proven by a regular season, together at the end and letting them play it out to determine a champion. who gives a farg about the 2 best teams...the best team doesn't always win
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 10:48:50 AM
it wouldnt destroy anything but it would weaken the regular season all because you want a bunch of teams that have no business playing for the national championship in a phony playoff
The scenario I describe above has one team that is not a conference champ. I went with the current rules, but there is no reason that could not be remedied.
Quoteit pretty much makes a mockery of the sec...where is tenn in your mix...they won their sec division and blew out georgia
Don't blame me, blame the poll voters who allow the recency effect to bias their bowl votes. This is a pro-computer argument, btw...
Quoteagain what it comes down to is making sure you have the two best possible teams in the final...a playoff doesnt do this...i fail to see how the positives of a playoff outweigh its negatives...in fact im not sure what the positives of a football playoff would be...its not basketball
Because there is no objective way to choose two teams. If the pick were that obvious, there would be no debate.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
since when do the 2 best teams in any sport ever play in the final game? rarely if ever
I may be wrong, but I think the last time it happened in any sport (other than CFB) was the 1998 NBA Finals with Chicago and Utah.
Is the argument that there shouldn't be a playoff in any football league? Does it make sense to say that Green Bay and Indy have no legitimate claim to play for the NFL championship?
Edit: I'll concede that other sports are fundamentally different
Quote from: Cerevant on January 09, 2008, 11:08:52 AM
Because there is no objective way to choose two teams. If the pick were that obvious, there would be no debate.
Exactly. If year in and year out the Nat Champ Game was being played by the only 2 unbeaten teams in the country then there wouldn't be as much room for debate. But when you've got 2 loss teams playing in a title game instead of other 1 loss or 0 loss teams then I think it's a flawed system.
so because the two best teams rarely play each other in other sports means we should make the last sport that innacurate as well?
makes sense
and even if you think that most years the best college team doesnt win at least it has a regular season that is off the hook...so instead you wanna institute a playoff that will water down the regular season and still not have the best team win
again where do the positives outweigh the negaitves?
The scenario I describe above has one team that is not a conference champ. I went with the current rules, but there is no reason that could not be remedied.
conference champ is about the worst way to determine how good a team is in cfb...again this is not cbb where you have dozens of teams that can win it all...football is not nearly as tightly knit...you have a clear two or three teams a year that deserve a title shot...this year being an exception...now if we start having years liek this all the time rather than once every 100 years then perhaps a plus game would be necessary...but a full scale playoff never will be
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on January 09, 2008, 11:08:52 AM
Because there is no objective way to choose two teams. If the pick were that obvious, there would be no debate.
Exactly. If year in and year out the Nat Champ Game was being played by the only 2 unbeaten teams in the country then there wouldn't be as much room for debate. But when you've got 2 loss teams playing in a title game instead of other 1 loss or 0 loss teams then I think it's a flawed system.
then you have a problem with the bcs system not the fact that there isnt a playoff
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 11:19:06 AM
and even if you think that most years the best college team doesnt win at least it has a regular season that is off the hook...so instead you wanna institute a playoff that will water down the regular season and still not have the best team win
again where do the positives outweigh the negaitves?
That's the thing.....a playoff system is not going to water down the regular season or make the games any less significant because 1 or 2 losses could still knock you out of the race.
i dont undertsand how you could possibly think that having a playoff wouldnt water down the regular season
baseball is the only sport where expanding the playoffs has improved the quality of the regular season...and even at that its only done so in the last two weeks
college football is the onyl sport on the planet where a week 1 game can be gigantic and the only sport where every game is potentially an elimination game
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on January 09, 2008, 11:08:52 AM
Because there is no objective way to choose two teams. If the pick were that obvious, there would be no debate.
Exactly. If year in and year out the Nat Champ Game was being played by the only 2 unbeaten teams in the country then there wouldn't be as much room for debate. But when you've got 2 loss teams playing in a title game instead of other 1 loss or 0 loss teams then I think it's a flawed system.
then you have a problem with the bcs system not the fact that there isnt a playoff
Yes, I have a problem with the BCS. And yes, I have a problem with them not having a playoff. I don't care how the rankings are determined, be it by a computer or coaches voting or media voting or simply drawing names from a hat. It still doesn't change the fact that unless the regular season final standings only have 2 teams finishing with better records than everyone else, then it's not fair to those other top teams that they don't have a shot to play for the national title. But that rarely happens in college football.
Just take the top 6 or 8 or 10 or 12 or however many teams you want and put them in a playoff and let them duke it out for the title. Last team standing wins.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
since when do the 2 best teams in any sport ever play in the final game? rarely if ever
it's about putting the best teams, proven by a regular season, together at the end and letting them play it out to determine a champion. who gives a farg about the 2 best teams...the best team doesn't always win
correct.
Its all about
profit for the NCAA and they will ultimately IMO go to a playoff. Just like NCAA men's basketball tournament, champions of all the conferences (all 11 of them) should earn an automatic bid to the field, even the lousy conferences.
No one would argue that the winner of the Mid-American Conference is one of the top 16 teams in the country. There are multiple benefits of including champs of low-level leagues. First and foremost is to maintain the integrity and relevancy of the regular season. There should be a significant reward for an exceptional season.
Whats wrong with a No. 1 playing a No. 16? There is your big reward for a great regular season. Earning a top-three seeding would present a school a near breeze into the second round. If you drop to a sixth-seed, you would be dealing with the likes of a Florida (this year). It brings true Cinderella into the college football mix for the first time. If that teams pulls off an improbable win, they deserve it
For even lower-rated conferences like the Sun Belts and the MACs, that would not only set off celebrations on small campuses but it would encourage investment in the sport at all levels. Now, you have a reason for teams in those leagues to really care. This would improve quality throughout the country. What you would have gone is the days of an unbeaten Auburn in the 2004 season not getting a chance at the title or the 2003 season where nearly everyone thought USC was the best team but got left out anyway.
yeah because having alabama birmingham in a ncaa football playoff but not a tenn georgia florida usc michigan miami florida state ect who didnt win their conefernce would be more fair than it is now
not to mention that the 7th best team in the better bcs conf is better than every mac or sun belt team every single year
and thinking those lower level teams would ever be able to compete is a pipe dream...there arent enough good football players to go around..again its not basketball and shouldnt be treated as such...hell there arent even enough good players to make all the bcs conferences good...the big east for example is a joke compared to the sec pac 10 or big 12
well just have to agree to disagree...college football is definitely my favorite sport and its specifically because of a 13 week regular season that is essentially 13 weeks of playoffs...i hope that never changes...its the best sport out there and if it aint broke why fix it is the way i look at it
it's not a 13 week playoff, the sooner you realize that, the better off you are
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 11:30:48 AM
college football is the onyl sport on the planet where a week 1 game can be gigantic and the only sport where every game is potentially an elimination game
How would that be any different with a playoff? This year was kind of freaky because almost every team in the top 10 had 2 losses. But here's the top 10 from last year at the end of the reg season:
1. OSU 12-0
2. Florida 12-1
3. Michigan 12-1
4. LSU 10-2
5. USC 10-2
6. Louisville 11-1
7. Wisconsin 11-1
8. Boise St 12-0
9. Auburn 10-2
10. Oklahoma 11-2
Why is there 2 unbeaten teams and only 1 is playing for the national championship? Why was there 1 unbeaten team this year and it didn't even get a chance to play for the title? And don't give me the "they play in a weak conference" crap either. You play the games on your schedule.
Why was Florida given the nod to play for the title last year over Michigan? Did they not have identical records?
Bottom line is that having a playoff isn't going to water down the reg season or make the games any less significant. The teams in the top 10 will all typically have identical records. So again, unless you have 2 teams finishing every season with better records than everyone else, there is no fair way to determine which 2 get to play for the title unless they all have to go through each other.
all you have to do is look at LSU...they got to play for the title after they lost their last regular season game of the year...yeah, that screams playoffs to me
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 11:42:07 AM
it's not a 13 week playoff, the sooner you realize that, the better off you are
numerous playoff type games every week say (http://chat2.globalpinoy.com/images/emoticons/wave.gif)
a small but perfect example this year was the pitt west virginia game...where the train wreck scenario was in full effect...west virginia had a win and in scenario and gagged it...it was amazing televison...and theres games like that every week
now imagine in a playoff scenario where you have west virginia in the backyard brawl sitting pat white and steve slaton and the rest fo their starters because they know they are in some sort of playoff because they had the big east won.......what a disagrace that would be...the minute you had any team clinching a playoff spot you have week 17 in the nfl all over the place......cant think of anything worse than that in cfb
win and in scenarios...yeah, that never happens in the NFL
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 11:51:54 AM
win and in scenarios...yeah, that never happens in the NFL
The final 3 or 4 weeks of the season were playoff type games for the Browns, Racists, Titans, Saints and Vikings. The final month was totally watered down with ACTION!!
actually win and in and lose and out scenarios rarely happen in the nfl...usually its depends on what six other teams have to do
and then when it deos happen sometimes you get have teams sitting starters and essentially throwing games...even in games that mean something to other teams....that skins dallas game this year was a travesty
not hating on the nfl system its good for that particular league...but it would make college football far worse
anyway im done...im not gonna change your minds and youre not gonna change mine
i will say tho that its a nice debate albeit a useless one since a playoff isnt going to happen in our lifetimes that plus the fact i was able to change ff's mind on the issue = i win
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
not hating on the nfl system its good for that particular league...but it would make college football far worse
There's logic for you - take a league with 4 times as many teams and decide the outcome of the season based on fewer games. Brilliant!
more teams but less teams that can win it all
less games to decide it all means each of those games is much more important and better to watch
logic clearly isnt your strong suit when it comes to cfb
Adding conference championship games has strengthened the BCS. Wouldn't adding playoff games for the top teams do the same?
you could also do something like having the higher seed = home field in playoff game. so like the pitt/wva game, wva had the 2 locked up then they lost, so now they have to go on the road to face oklahoma instead of hosting hawaii or something. big difference.
Yeah, but in IGY's eyes, it ruined the season. Now teams who make the conference championship game might have a meaningless game at the end of the season.
they will be the equivilant of conference tournaments for big time teams in basketball. basically playing for higher seeding. my idea was the 16 team but even with an 8 team playoff, losing 1 game late in the season could knock you out.
the regular season wouldnt mean as much, but it still would mean a heck of a lot.
Quote from: MDS on January 09, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
you could also do something like having the higher seed = home field in playoff game. so like the pitt/wva game, wva had the 2 locked up then they lost, so now they have to go on the road to face oklahoma instead of hosting hawaii or something. big difference.
This makes less sense than anything posted in the last 5 pages of this thread. Letting teams play "playoff" games at their home field is exactly what the sponsors won't tolerate.
the sponsors, college and conference presidents wont tolerate any kind of playoff because they got $10 million + payouts on big time bowl games and they want to keep it that way. so what the hell difference does it make.
Quote from: MDS on January 09, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
you could also do something like having the higher seed = home field in playoff game. so like the pitt/wva game, wva had the 2 locked up then they lost, so now they have to go on the road to face oklahoma instead of hosting hawaii or something. big difference.
Obviously no fan base can afford to travel week after week to neutral-site games, and they wouldn't have to with a playoff
The competitive value of home-field advantage would also help maintain the importance of the regular season because the higher the seed, the more home games. You do it for the first 3 rounds. How would USC fare if it didn't get a Big Ten opponent in Pasadena each January, but rather had to go to Ann Arbor or Columbus for a change?
QuoteLetting teams play "playoff" games at their home field is exactly what the sponsors won't tolerate.
actually it might work the opposite
College football is leaving millions on the table by staging top games in far-off cities. Big schools such as Ohio State earn about $5 million per home game-and that is just direct revenue. The 14 hugely profitable home games from the first three rounds would create a huge revenue stream. Its a win-win if you agree with the structure
It makes a huge difference, if you can market current bowl games as part of an overall playoff.
Not that it matters, because the current system is working and here to stay. The only team that had a viable argument for making the championship but didn't was Hawaii, and the selection process proved their undefeated season was an aberration.
The only year the system "fails" is when there are 3 or 4 very strong undefeated teams. Otherwise, teams know they're at the mercy of the polls if they lose any games, so like IGY said, every game is a playoff game.
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
Not that it matters, because the current system is working and here to stay. The only team that had a viable argument for making the championship but didn't was Hawaii, and the selection process proved their undefeated season was an aberration.
Georgia, USC, Florida...
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
Georgia, USC, Florida...
UGA - lost to South Carolina at home and got crushed by Tennessee on the road
USC - lost to Stanford at home and also Oregon
Florida - 3 losses? Zero viable argument there. Plus, they had a nice exclamation point by losing to Michigan in their bowl game.
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.
exactly...there were numerous playoff games during the regular season where teams had to do what they had to do to survive...some did and some didnt...
it was one amazing free for all and was much more interesting than some flip a coin made up playoff tournament where only some of the teams are in it and not others
the playoff is currently already in place and in what is the best regular season in sports
the one place i do havea gripe as it stands now is that i think all the conferences should have a championship game...i think its unfair that the sec for example has to play a champinship game while ohio state gets to sit back and chill while people knock each other out
i will add the other legitimate gripe is when you had three undeafeated bcs teams in a season...would be hard to do but it could happen...and in that case i can see an argument for a plus one johnson in the years it does...but theres no really good argument for a playoff
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
Georgia, USC, Florida...
UGA - lost to South Carolina at home and got crushed by Tennessee on the road
USC - lost to Stanford at home and also Oregon
Florida - 3 losses? Zero viable argument there. Plus, they had a nice exclamation point by losing to Michigan in their bowl game.
LSU - lost at home to Arkansas in their last regular season game, lost at Kentucky
Ohio St - lost at home to Illinois who got ROLLED by USC
you were saying?
so because Ohio State plays in a weaker conference they get to play in the National Championship game...sweet system
Overall, a byproduct of the BCS has been a devaluing of competitiveness in college football. There is no longer an incentive to play games against other big-time opponents. It's not just intra-regional games that are all but gone but most non-conference games of any significance. Teams just load up on scrubs to grab the home gate and maybe play one local rival.
Amazingly, the BCS rewards them for this.
also, USC was clearly better than Ohio State, but because of injuries to their quarterback and others, they lost 2 regular season games ( or playoff games, LOL!) and don't get to play for the national championship with a fully healthy, much more talented team...that totally seems fair.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
LSU - lost at home to Arkansas in their last regular season game, lost at Kentucky
Ohio St - lost at home to Illinois who got ROLLED by USC
you were saying?
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.
You were saying?
USC's the first football team in history to have injuries hurt their chances to win a championship, then?
yeah, injuries in the middle of the season should ruin your national championship...that's an awesome way to run sports
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
LSU - lost at home to Arkansas in their last regular season game, lost at Kentucky
Ohio St - lost at home to Illinois who got ROLLED by USC
you were saying?
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.
You were saying?
lucky to an extent...that's all it is, there were 3 or 4 teams that had the same credentials and OSU and LSU were the luck of the draw...tremendous way to run the biggest collegiate sports program in the country
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
so because Ohio State plays in a weaker conference they get to play in the National Championship game...sweet system
Funny thing about that Mo, is that's the exact reason why teams like Boise St and Hawaii don't play for a title after going undefeated.
usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?
sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it
lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant
in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else
and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
worst thing ive ever seen
lol @ florida atlantic and central michigan being in a cfb playoff...you really are one of the dumbest people alive...and the special about your idiocy is that it isnt limited to any one sport...its covers all...
it one thing to be like sun and sarge and simply want what you think is the best team in the country to be champion but you sir are a moron
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 01:43:19 PM
usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?
sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it
lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant
in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else
and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?
of course not...but you know what my point is...my point is a team shouldn't be eliminated in October because they have a bad loss while another team gets to lose their last game at home and still play for the national title...there's no consistency
if you include more teams, you have less restrictions and you actually play it out on the field, less controversy
Quote from: MDS on January 09, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
the sponsors, college and conference presidents wont tolerate any kind of playoff because they got $10 million + payouts on big time bowl games and they want to keep it that way. so what the hell difference does it make.
I gave the example earlier, the sponsors can still sponsor the individual playoff games the same way they do with bowls now. If anything, playoff games will carry more significance than most of the bowls out there. Because realistically, if it ain't the national championship game, it ain't shtein and I don't even see the point in playing it.
But I'll use my earlier example again for s&g's:
Let's say that the first round of the playoffs features #1 USC vs #10 Tennessee. A bowl sponsor like Outback or GMAC or whoever can still sponsor that particular game. And do you really think that Outback wouldn't prefer to sponsor that game instead of the actual Outback Bowl which will feature #15 vs #23 or something like that? Which game do you think is going to draw more ratings and revenue? #1 vs #10 or #15 vs #23? Gee, I wonder. If anything, I think some of the major sponsors will stand to make even more money off of the playoff system.
And all of the other corporate whores out there who like putting up money to sponsor some meaningless bowl game between Army and Temple can still do so. They'll still have the entire pool of teams to pick from with the exception of the top 8 or 10 teams (which would never accept an invite to any of those bowls anyway)....or however many teams they give playoff spots to.
Quoteworst thing ive ever seen
lol @ florida atlantic and central michigan being in a cfb playoff...you really are one of the dumbest people alive...and the special about your idiocy is that it isnt limited to any one sport...its covers all...
it one thing to be like sun and sarge and simply want what you think is the best team in the country to be champion but you sir are a moron
you really are a farging idiot. The format jackass...the format
Quoteand what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?
This might be the farging dumbest thing I ever read. Get off your throne youngbuck, you got alot to learn
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
I'm picking BYU.
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 01:43:19 PM
usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?
sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it
lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant
in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else
and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?
of course not...but you know what my point is...my point is a team shouldn't be eliminated in October because they have a bad loss while another team gets to lose their last game at home and still play for the national title...there's no consistency
ohio state lost at home to a bcs team...usc lost at home to a 40 pt underdog...if they dont gag in that game they arent left out...a one loss usc easily makes the championship game over a one loss ohio state...
again ohio state had less losses than usc going into the bowls...you can say you think usc is a better team than ohio state and id agree...you cant say they had a better resume to be in the title game
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
I'm picking BYU.
clearly you didnt see central michigan play this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
I'm picking BYU.
clearly you didnt see central michigan play this year
Actually I did. But BYU is powered by Jesus.
we could argue the merits of Illinois as BCS caliber team for another couple hours...but you make a good point
but we both come to the same conclusion...the 2 best teams didn't play for the title....where we differ is that you're fine with the system that allows that and i want it to be changed
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 02:06:58 PM
but we both come to the same conclusion...the 2 best teams didn't play for the title....where we differ is that you're fine with the system that allows that and i want it to be changed
I think they call that check mate. Or, in igy talk, domino muthafarga.
Arguably, the 2 best teams don't play in the Super Bowl every year either. How do we fix that?
i don't care about it if it's fought out in a playoff...that's been my whole point
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:58:27 PM
you really are a farging idiot. The format jackass...the format
OMFG!...you mean a bracket format with 16 teams in it...where the hell did you come up with that ground breaking idea...im suprised no one else has mentioned anything like that yet...i think something like that would probably work in cbb
haha
What's a bracket?
Something you wear on your wrist I think.
CBB should be a best of 5 format. Not because I think the current format is unfair. I just want them to play until July.
Well, get used to it, because FOX is going to make a playoff a reality.
They already took the first step by creating a championship game separate from the bowls.
Notice how the championship is a week away from the bowls? Next they will tag two of the BCS bowls as a playoff, and the winners will play in the NCG.
After that they will add a week and include all four bowl games.
Don't believe me?
Quote"If you poll football fans, they overwhelmingly say they want (a playoff system)," Fox Sports chief Ed Goren said...
Sure, Fox talks all nice nice about the BCS, but they know that a playoff is where the money is.
fox had zero control over the formation of the bcs and has zero control over a playoff system...a playoff system will happen when the presidents want it to happen
fyi the international bowl is a week after the other bowls too
You guys have spent 10 pages arguing over something that isn't likely to happen any time soon.
I love you all.
your miserable attitude is not refreshing
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
fox had zero control over the formation of the bcs and has zero control over a playoff system...a playoff system will happen when the presidents want it to happen
The bowl alliance didn't include the Rose Bowl. And the BCS didn't have a separate championship game. Things change.
And what makes things change? Television networks walking into the NCAA offices with buckets of cash. If they had control, it would have already have happened. But now that it is established, what is to stop them from taking that first step - making it 4 teams instead of 2? No more time is involved. It would automatically increase the draw and the ratings for all three games.
I predict that if there isn't at least a 4 team playoff by the end of the current deal (2010), Fox will not renew.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:58:27 PM
you really are a farging idiot. The format jackass...the format
OMFG!...you mean a bracket format with 16 teams in it...where the hell did you come up with that ground breaking idea...im suprised no one else has mentioned anything like that yet...i think something like that would probably work in cbb
the format of the seeds and a playoff bracket...yes, "Has to fight tooth and nail" Havas. Next.
Wait!! Cancel the game......2 starters are hurt. Genius
The Giants won a Super Bowl with Jeff Hostetler. That is incredibly accurate.
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings. The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l)
yea if you dont want this than you are just a moron. people like igy like ties, split-national champions and meaningless bowl games.
well...people that dont agree and raise question to IGY's know-it all facts (never opinions), as he so boldly states every single day are morons, illogical, idiots, and clueless.
Im getting a bodyguard
You guys are gonna make Baby Feva cry if you don't stop yelling at each other.
Good lookin' out...
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2008, 05:06:25 PM
michigan lost to appalachian state
kansas hawaii was a fraud
georgia didnt even win their league division
usc lost to stanford at home
that being said id be open to a plus one game if you wanted to include a usc but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team
lsu did nothing this year that showed they werent best team...having boston college and brigham young in a playoff would do nothing to change that
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
Looks like DonHo's team lost another WR to the draft (Ryan Grice-Mullen). Back to mediocrity for Hawaii...
you want to talk about a program that's farged right now? One week ago they're playing, mind you getting the shtein kicked out of them, in the biggest game in school/state history, coach quits 5 days later, AD is fired yesterday, all 4 starting WR's are gone - two graduating and two declaring and QB is graduating. To make things worse a red shirt freshman DB collapsed dead at a workout in Arizona earlier today.
Get this. John L Smith, yes the John L Smith from Michigan State has applied for the Hawaii job.
worlds are colliding!
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080109/COLUMNISTS06/801090410/1142/COLUMNISTS06&template=UHsports
Xavier Lee is tired of sitting on the bench (and getting suspended) at Florida State and entered the draft
ha...Hawaii's new head coach is McMackin
Kevin Gilbride was/is interested in the job. He was highly recommended by Jones. Norm Chow was rumored but he's making $2 mil as the Titans offensive coordinator. All signs point to McMackin getting the job.
What about McLovin?
Anything related to West Virginia players under Rich Rodriguez is now missing from the school (http://wvgazette.com/section/Sports/WVU/2008011432) :paranoid
rr is a POS and michigan is going to regret hiring him in the long run...mark it down
on a more serious note how do they expect to keep track of all noel devines children now
as much as he'll suck at michigan, there is still no chance they start losing to penn state on a regular basis
still bitter about not getting into main campus huh?
bitter? i have no clue why temple accepted me. and who would want to go live in the middle of nowhere for 4 years with a bunch of hicks?
Quote from: MDS on January 15, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
bitter? i have no clue why temple accepted me. and who would want to go live in the middle of nowhere for 4 years with a bunch of hicks?
Everyone that's ever spent a weekend in state college.
As much as I loathed Penn State growing up I have to agree with rjs. That's a fun farging place to hang out if you're college age and can legally drink.
It's not as much fun as Bloomsburg but it's close.
;)
I had a few buddies that went to Bloomsburg. They came to PSU to party often, because they said the pool of chicks started to intermingle and wear thin too much. Also, they occasionally wanted to drink instead of just smoke.
Your buddies are full of ish. I went to Bloom for a year after I got off active duty back in 1998 and that school had something like a 6:1 girl:guy ratio. It was rediculous. There was trim running around all over the place there. Still is too. My mom lives in the next town over from Bloom and I still see it walking around town. I feel like Wooderson from Dazed and Confused every time I go back because no matter how old I get, they stay the saaaaaame age.
They were probably just too high to notice. But basically, I think they were saying the girls they hung out with all knew each other, so they couldn't play around too much amongst them. They liked coming to PSU for the seemingly endless supply of both chicks and beer.
They brought their own MJ, not that I would ever partake in such a thing.
penn state is an AWESOME place to visit but i would have slashed my throat had i had to go there for four years
the reason a lot of people love it is because when youre leaving some hell hole like frackville nanticoke souderton or tamaqua then state college feels like a burgeoning metropolis and a cool place
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2008, 02:09:43 PM
penn state is an AWESOME place to visit but i would have slashed my throat had i had to go there for four years because there's no roscoe's chicken and waffle
I loved it and I didn't come from the backwoods.
Girls + beer + drugs + communications degree = guaranteed fun.
My only regret was that I was the only one of my friends to graduate in four years. Should have stayed longer.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 15, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
My only regret was that I was the only one of my friends to graduate in four years.
Your friends are both really smart and really stupid.
So, back to college football... Who will lose to Temple in the national championship game next year?
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 15, 2008, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 15, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
My only regret was that I was the only one of my friends to graduate in four years.
Your friends are both really smart and really stupid.
Evil geniuses.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 15, 2008, 01:34:14 PM
I had a few buddies that went to Bloomsburg. They came to PSU to party often, because they said the pool of chicks started to intermingle and wear thin too much. Also, they occasionally wanted to drink instead of just smoke.
T_Sec went to Bloomsburg.
i was getting a tour of the bloomsburg campus from some football players when OJ went free. people were screaming out of their windows.
I love black people.
i love pissing off racists so i cheered loudly
you were racist to think he did it?
Not guilty = not guilty. Let the man live his life, Souderton Cracker.
calm down herschel
Buy some of this, it'll do the trick.
(http://www.ebris.com/pix/kedem.jpg)
Quote from: SunMo on January 15, 2008, 05:02:52 PM
you were racist to think he did it?
no you were racist for wanting him to be guilty for killing a white women
Saying or thinking any negative about someone of a different race is racist. Even if they happened to murder a couple of people.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2008, 05:09:47 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 15, 2008, 05:02:52 PM
you were racist to think he did it?
no you were racist for wanting him to be guilty for killing a white women
oh, that makes sense.
i really wanted him to be guilty so he wouldn't make anymore Naked Gun movies
I wanted him to be guilty so I could take part in this conversation. I'm a seer.
i meant to say people not 'you'...but still the point stands
black people were happy because after 400 years of being illegal convicted of crimes...they finally stole one their way
white people only cared because a black guy got away with killing a white woman...if it was black on black crime they couldnt have cared less
I couldn't have cared less either way.
Most celebrities deserve to die screaming.
Quotewhite people only cared because a black guy got away with killing a white woman
you cant be serious with this statement.
the fact that he was rich and famous was what made it a spectacle...nothing else. the fact he was stone cold guilty makes it worse. black people with a chip on their shoulder are the only ones that believe that statement above, so speak for yourself..but anyway
Where does Slaton fall in the draft?
Only on :CF can a discussion go from Noel Devine's kids, to Souderton being a hole to OJ killing his old lady.
I love this place.
Just wait until OJ finds the real killer and proves his innocence.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
i meant to say people not 'you'...but still the point stands
black people were happy because after 400 years of being illegal convicted of crimes...they finally stole one their way
white people only cared because a black guy got away with killing a white woman...if it was black on black crime they couldnt have cared less
fact
Oh please. Whenever a hot woman is killed I get upset. I don't care what color she is. and I don't care if the dude who killed her is black, white, or German. Lousy krauts.
nicole simpson hot?...she was a coked out skank whore
long blonde hair doesnt not automatically = hot
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 16, 2008, 08:31:04 AM
nicole simpson hot?...she was a coked out skank whore
When I was 15 I thought she was hot.
And since when is a coked out skank whore NOT attractive?
after you come
That's universal, my friend.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 16, 2008, 09:13:17 AM
And since when is a coked out skank whore NOT attractive?
Word.
See Reid, Tara...