College Football 2007

[MDS]

all they champions from the d1 conferences plus a few wild card teams in a 16 team, 4 week tourney. winnar.

[Sgt PSN]

They wouldn't have to be obsolete.  They could simply incorporate the four major bowls into the national championship playoff.

It's doable but you're right about there being too much resistance from the powers that be to let it happen.

Yep.  I got pulled into a meeting before I could finish typing this up but I think this would eb be a good way to implement a playoff into college football.

Let's say the top 16 teams get in.  That's 8 games one weekend, followed by 4 the next weekend, then 2 games and then the Nat'l Champ. Game.  Even if you include a bye week between the semi-final and NCG, that's still only going to take 5 weeks to complete which would still end the season right about now.  So it's not going to have the players going into late January or anything.

All the NCAA and Bowl Committee or whatever the hell it is need to do is make each game in the playoffs a different bowl game.  So maybe during the first week of the playoffs you've got some of the "ghetto" bowl games that no one cares about.  Obviously, the further you get into the playoffs, the more recognizable the bowl games become. 

Example:

Round 1:

1 vs 16 - Outback Bowl
2 vs 15 - GMAC Bowl
3 vs 14 - Insight.com Bowl
4 vs 13 - Tidy Bowl
5 vs 12 - General Mills Cereal Bowl
6 vs 11 - Cheech and Chong Smoka Bowl
7 vs 10 - Pottery Bowl
8 vs 9 - Toilet Bowl

Round 2:

1 vs 8 - Capitol One Bowl
2 vs 7 - Cotton Bowl
3 vs 6 - Fiesta Bowl
4 vs 5 - Liberty Bowl

Round 3:

1 vs 4 - Orange Bowl
2 vs 3 - Suger Bowl

NCS:

1 vs 2 - Rose Bowl

Obviously the bowl names would be different based on sponsorships from year to year and the NCG could still be hosted by one of the major bowls each year but I think the format and concept is pretty sound.  Not to mention that all of the other lame ass bowls out there can still be played by teams ranked 17th and beyond.  And I think the sponsors would go nuts over this.  Just using the example that went with, don't you think that Outback wouldn't love the idea of sponsoring a game being played by the top ranked team in the country like an LSU, OSU or USC?  Or do you think they'd rather have a game between the 15th and 23rd ranked teams...or who ever the hell it is they get to play? 

And it doesn't have to be 16 teams that get it.  12 or 8 would work too.  Either way, it's not going to diminish the regular season because that 1 or 2 losses could still knock you out of the hunt.  I just think that out of all the teams in the country, if you're able to finish the season ranked in the top 16 then you should at least be given the opportunity to play for a national title. 

[ice grillin you]

there will never ever be a 16 team playoff in college football...no point in even discussing it...nor should there be as it would really hurt the regular season which is perfect right now and what makes cfb the worlds best sport


i personally like it just how it is...but i could live with the plus one johnson..anything more than that is unessecary imo...and while i strongly disagree with them i definitely understand the arguments for a playoff

[phattymatty]

i don't think the plus one deal really makes a difference.  if it were in place this year, who does the ohio state-lsu winner play next?  georgia? usc?  just one more way for people to argue.  some sort of mini-tournament is the only thing that could make it definitive.

[Sgt PSN]

there will never ever be a 16 team playoff in college football...no point in even discussing it...nor should there be as it would really hurt the regular season which is perfect right now and what makes cfb the worlds best sport

Like I said, it doesn't have to be a 16 team playoff.  I just think that the top 16 teams in the country deserve a shot at it.  It could be a twelve team system or even an 8 team playoff.  Any one of those 3 would be fine with me.  And I'll admit that a 12 or 8 team playoff places much more emphasis on the regular season than a 16 team playoff would.  A 16 team system is just my personal preference. 

[ice grillin you]

nothing will ever be definitive...the winner of the ncaa nasketball tournament is more often than not not the best team in the country

i dont think you even need a plus one format but if you did you would have had lsu usc...georgia was not a factor this year...everyone knew usc and lsu were the two best teams and the winner of that game this weekend would have been as close to a  clear cut best team as you could get

imo the only time a plus one format would even be needed is if you had three undefeated bcs teams

the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they

[Cerevant]

the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they

How do you figure?  The conference championship determines who goes to the BCS bowls, why couldn't it determine who goes to the playoffs?  Use the current format to determine the 8 teams in the 4 majors, and have it count as the first round of the playoffs.

The current system is only good for blow-hards like you who care more about talking shtein than watching football.  Using your logic, the NFL should skip the whole playoff thing and just put NE and Dallas in the Super Bowl, and screw everyone else.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'd argue the skins are obviously more deserving than Dallas in that scenario.  They've been through so much this year.

It would just be crazy if the game was held on February 1st!

[ice grillin you]

the college football regular season is to damn good to go messing with...plus once you have a tournament it makes the conference championship games obsolete and cfb is not going to let that happen....nor should they

How do you figure?  The conference championship determines who goes to the BCS bowls, why couldn't it determine who goes to the playoffs?  Use the current format to determine the 8 teams in the 4 majors, and have it count as the first round of the playoffs.

The current system is only good for blow-hards like you who care more about talking shtein than watching football.  Using your logic, the NFL should skip the whole playoff thing and just put NE and Dallas in the Super Bowl, and screw everyone else.

#1 - the conference championships do not strictly determine who goes to bsc bowls now...for example kansas and oklahoma made it this year so did georgia and lsu...georgia didnt even make its conference championship game...you cant say you want a playoff to determine the best team then have automatic bids...rutgers could have easily won the big east this year but they had no business being in a national playoff...this is the kind of garbage that would happen with a playoff...its not like colllege backetball where you have a 20-25 teams that could win it all...in football theres really only two or three a year...maybe a fourth in the odd year...id rather the full body of a regular season determine who goes rather than some automatic bids...the one change i would like to see is more of a human element in who goes to the championship game...id be fine with a select group of sportwriters or even a selection committe ala cbb to determine it...that way you could factor in things like injuries in the case of a usc this year

#2 - i watch more college football than anyone i know and certainly more than anyone in this discussion...so to say id rather talk about it than watch is pretty assinine...the reason i want it to stay as is is precisely because i watch college football from noon to midnight almost every saturday where you have unbelievable edge of your seat games every single weekend...what other sport can you say that in...not college basketball...not the nba or nhl...and as good as the nfl regular season is it doesnt come close to being as meaningful as cfb...i dont want any of that taken away...like i said i respect the arguments of having a tournament because people need to have everythign wrapped up in a neat nice bow or they arent happy...but the ironic thing is that a tournament wouldnt anymore determine a true champion than what we have now..it would just let simpletons think they have a more definitive champion

[BigEd76]

An issue with using conference champions only:  what happens if Notre Dame is actually good for once and has a shot at a title?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Make them join a conference.

[Cerevant]

The BCS has 2 at large bids.

[ice grillin you]

an automatic bid tourney would also fail because with conferences being so big now no one plays balenced schedules...you have to take every teams entire body work...and compare them because its not all equal...thats why i like the current system of analyzing who the two best teams are and having a superbowl btwn them...i just wish people would determine it rather than a computer

[Sgt PSN]

An issue with using conference champions only:  what happens if Notre Dame is actually good for once and has a shot at a title?

Not to mention that not every conference has a bonafide conf champ game.

[MDS]

there are 11 conferences and more often than not the best teams in those conferences win them. add in 5 at large bids selected basketball style and its all good. it wouldnt take away from the regular season because winning your conference would be the only way to guarantee a spot in the tourney. it would make teams schedule better ooc games because they cant just count on winning their conference to make it.