College Football 2007

[BigEd76]

Well since we're revamping the entire postseason, we might as well make the BigTen (East/West) and Pac-10 (North/South) split up into divisions and play a title game.  Now you have the following:

ACC (title game)
BigTen (title game)
BigXII (title game)
C-USA (title game)
MAC (title game)
Pac-10 (title game)
SEC (title game)

Big East (champ only)
MWC (champ only)
Sun Belt (champ only)
WAC (champ only)

Notre Dame/Navy

That gives you 12 teams.  Looks OK, but then you get Kansas and Georgia complaining that they don't have a shot at the title but Florida Atlantic and Central Michigan do.  You also get complaints about how the bracket should be set up.  Do you go by the AP rankings, which are already judgmental?  Do you make it geographic, like the Pac-10 champ vs the WAC champ and the BigXII champ vs the Mountain West champ?

[MDS]

you have a committee seed them 1-16, who knows where the games are played. maybe done doubleheader style near the top seeds location, but how many people are gonna sit there from noon till eight and watch football? excuse me, stay sober.

basically im trying to get the little guys like the mac, wac, sun belt, etc. chances to play the big boys. teams like temple never get the chance to play lsu and texas in a winnable setting. so this is that chance. copying the basketall tourney essentially.

[phattymatty]

teams like temple never get the chance to play lsu and texas in a winnable setting.

winnable setting.  ha. 

[ice grillin you]

there are 11 conferences and more often than not the best teams in those conferences win them. add in 5 at large bids selected basketball style and its all good. it wouldnt take away from the regular season because winning your conference would be the only way to guarantee a spot in the tourney. it would make teams schedule better ooc games because they cant just count on winning their conference to make it.

youre assuming that every year every conference has a team that is deserving of the title...which is never the case...all youre doing is making a watered down tournament that would cheapen the regular season...teams would now know they can lose three games and still make the "playoffs"...thats awful...this year was the first time a two loss team has won a title and you wanna make a playoffs with three and four loss teams....why

[SunMo]

.thats awful...this year was the first time a two loss team has won a title and you wanna make a playoffs with three and four loss teams....why

because i want to see Georgia and Michigan and USC and Kansas have a chance to play on after winning their bowl games

[MDS]

precisely.

basically its the "8 team" tournament idea compounded to include all the winners of all the conferences so it has that basketall tournament style feel of the little guys going up against the big guys. boise state beating oklahoma was one of the best games/moments in college ball history because you never see big program vs. nothing program in a big time game. now we'll see it every year, and on the year that a western michigan or florida atlantic beats lsu or something, itll be great to watch.

[Rome]

I wanna see the top of Jessica Alba's head bobbing up and down on my meatcicle but that ain't gonna happen either.

[MDS]

well no shtein, we'd be lucky to get a plus one format. everyone makes a ginormous amount of money off those bowl games and going to a playoff format will ruin that.

you cant have a playoff game between lsu and michigan as the sugar bowl. you cant have 3th place big 10 and 3rd place pac 10 in the rose bowl either (though this would be a good way for psu to finally win the rose bowl).

so yea, it stays.

[ice grillin you]

michigan lost to appalachian state

kansas was a fraud

georgia didnt even win their league division

usc lost to stanford at home

that being said id be open to a plus one game if you wanted to include a usc but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team

lsu did nothing this year that showed they werent best team...having boston college and brigham young in a playoff would do nothing to change that

[phattymatty]

but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team

so you don't want computers picking the number 1, but you don't want ohio state, who was ranked #1 by both of the human polls, number 1 either.  it has to go one of those ways.

[Rome]

Georgia looked the best of any of those teams down the stretch although USC looked phenomenal in the Rose Bowl.

I would have liked to have seen LSU, OSU, and the other two in a final four, but again, how would that even work?   There's just too much money involved to change things entirely and anything else than a full legitimate playoff makes an abbreviated playoff seem like a sham.

[Rome]

File under: Reasons why people get their farging smug asses beaten in stadiums.

[BigEd76]

Looks like DonHo's team lost another WR to the draft (Ryan Grice-Mullen).  Back to mediocrity for Hawaii...

[ice grillin you]

but the better option is the have a more fair selection process for the championship game where you dont have an ohio state there when they probably werent the second best team

so you don't want computers picking the number 1, but you don't want ohio state, who was ranked #1 by both of the human polls, number 1 either.  it has to go one of those ways.

im just throwing out another option...i have no current problem with the system as is and was fine with ohio state in the final...as i would have been with usc...my point is that a playoff will not make a more definitive winner than the current system...and it will make the superlative regular season worse...i dont wanna see 13 weeks weakened so teams like boston college and kansas can participate in a playoff...like i said before do we really wanna see a four loss team in a national playoff...what does that achieve exactly?

[Cerevant]

How does a playoff weaken the regular season?  The way things are now, if a team loses one game they are basically done for the season.