College Football 2007

Started by ice grillin you, January 10, 2007, 01:19:37 PM

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reese125

Overall, a byproduct of the BCS has been a devaluing of competitiveness in college football. There is no longer an incentive to play games against other big-time opponents. It's not just intra-regional games that are all but gone but most non-conference games of any significance. Teams just load up on scrubs to grab the home gate and maybe play one local rival.

Amazingly, the BCS rewards them for this.

SunMo

also, USC was clearly better than Ohio State, but because of injuries to their quarterback and others, they lost 2 regular season games ( or playoff games, LOL!) and don't get to play for the national championship with a fully healthy, much more talented team...that totally seems fair.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
LSU - lost at home to Arkansas in their last regular season game, lost at Kentucky
Ohio St - lost at home to Illinois who got ROLLED by USC

you were saying?

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.

You were saying?

PoopyfaceMcGee

USC's the first football team in history to have injuries hurt their chances to win a championship, then?

SunMo

yeah, injuries in the middle of the season should ruin your national championship...that's an awesome way to run sports
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SunMo

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
LSU - lost at home to Arkansas in their last regular season game, lost at Kentucky
Ohio St - lost at home to Illinois who got ROLLED by USC

you were saying?

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 09, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
LSU and OSU got lucky to an extent, sure, but other teams all had their chances to be there and blew it.

You were saying?

lucky to an extent...that's all it is, there were 3 or 4 teams that had the same credentials and OSU and LSU were the luck of the draw...tremendous way to run the biggest collegiate sports program in the country
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reese125

I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings.  The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?


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Sgt PSN

Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
so because Ohio State plays in a weaker conference they get to play in the National Championship game...sweet system

Funny thing about that Mo, is that's the exact reason why teams like Boise St and Hawaii don't play for a title after going undefeated. 

ice grillin you

usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?

sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it

lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant

in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else

and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings.  The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?


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worst thing ive ever seen

lol @ florida atlantic and central michigan being in a cfb playoff...you really are one of the dumbest people alive...and the special about your idiocy is that it isnt limited to any one sport...its covers all...

it one thing to be like sun and sarge and simply want what you think is the best team in the country to be champion but you sir are a moron
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SunMo

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 01:43:19 PM
usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?

sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it

lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant

in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else

and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?

of course not...but you know what my point is...my point is a team shouldn't be eliminated in October because they have a bad loss while another team gets to lose their last game at home and still play for the national title...there's no consistency

if you include more teams, you have less restrictions and you actually play it out on the field, less controversy
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: MDS on January 09, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
the sponsors, college and conference presidents wont tolerate any kind of playoff because they got $10 million + payouts on big time bowl games and they want to keep it that way. so what the hell difference does it make.

I gave the example earlier, the sponsors can still sponsor the individual playoff games the same way they do with bowls now.  If anything, playoff games will carry more significance than most of the bowls out there.  Because realistically, if it ain't the national championship game, it ain't shtein and I don't even see the point in playing it.  

But I'll use my earlier example again for s&g's:

Let's say that the first round of the playoffs features #1 USC vs #10 Tennessee.  A bowl sponsor like Outback or GMAC or whoever can still sponsor that particular game.  And do you really think that Outback wouldn't prefer to sponsor that game instead of the actual Outback Bowl which will feature #15 vs #23 or something like that?  Which game do you think is going to draw more ratings and revenue?  #1 vs #10 or #15 vs #23?  Gee, I wonder.  If anything, I think some of the major sponsors will stand to make even more money off of the playoff system.  

And all of the other corporate whores out there who like putting up money to sponsor some meaningless bowl game between Army and Temple can still do so.  They'll still have the entire pool of teams to pick from with the exception of the top 8 or 10 teams (which would never accept an invite to any of those bowls anyway)....or however many teams they give playoff spots to.  


reese125

Quoteworst thing ive ever seen

lol @ florida atlantic and central michigan being in a cfb playoff...you really are one of the dumbest people alive...and the special about your idiocy is that it isnt limited to any one sport...its covers all...

it one thing to be like sun and sarge and simply want what you think is the best team in the country to be champion but you sir are a moron

you really are a farging idiot. The format jackass...the format

Quoteand what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?

This might be the farging dumbest thing I ever read. Get off your throne youngbuck, you got alot to learn

Sgt PSN

Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings.  The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?


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I'm picking BYU. 

ice grillin you

Quote from: SunMo on January 09, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 09, 2008, 01:43:19 PM
usc a team whos unreal recruiting classes make them go three deep at almost every position had injuires cause them to lose to a 40 pt underdog at home?

sorry that loss takes any argument usc might have and smashes it

lsu had more injuries than usc better losses and much better wins...injuries are no excuse...beat stanford and all of this is irrelevant

in fact they lost the stanford game because booty wouldnt come out of the game and carroll wouldnt stop throwing he ball when he had the bad digit...they can blame themselves no one else

and what happens if you have a playoff system and a team loses its best player in the first round...do you suspend the playoffs until people get healthy again?

of course not...but you know what my point is...my point is a team shouldn't be eliminated in October because they have a bad loss while another team gets to lose their last game at home and still play for the national title...there's no consistency

ohio state lost at home to a bcs team...usc lost at home to a 40 pt underdog...if they dont gag in that game they arent left out...a one loss usc easily makes the championship game over a one loss ohio state...

again ohio state had less losses than usc going into the bowls...you can say you think usc is a better team than ohio state and id agree...you cant say they had a better resume to be in the title game
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 09, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: reese125 on January 09, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I would of loved to see something like this (this is based off of final rankings.  The college football playoffs would have a chance to rival the NFL playoffs (Super Bowl included) as the biggest sporting event in the country. How could you not want this?


http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2085111377&size=l

I'm picking BYU. 


clearly you didnt see central michigan play this year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous