Quote from: Beermonkey on October 29, 2006, 02:10:31 PM
FYI - Eagles signed Will Peterson
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6116338
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A little defensive help appears to be on the way for the recently struggling Philadelphia Eagles.
FOXSports.com has learned that Philly has agreed in principle to a contract with former Giants starting cornerback Will Peterson.
Peterson is scheduled to fly to Philadelphia Monday to take a physical in order to finalize the deal, which is contingent on Peterson's passing the physical.
Injuries and a sour relationship with Giants head coach Tom Coughlin ended Peterson's tenure in New York in the middle of what was supposed to be the third-round draft pick's prime. Peterson played five seasons for the Giants, but two of the final three were hampered by injury. He was finally cut in May of 2006 after injuring his back in Week 3 and missing the remainder of the 2005 season.
During his five seasons in New York, Peterson started 39 games and had five interceptions and 199 tackles.
Who gets cut??
Interesting move.
Giants fans hated him.
Dexter Wynn will get cut.
Can he return punts or kicks?
Can he catch?
No and no.
Jints fans used to bitch about him and Will Allen dropping INTs all the time. Mostly Allen, but Will Pete was not known for his hands either.
And he's had back injuries.
Ah. Injuries. That's all you had to say.
However, if he is healthy, this could be a very good pickup. He was a starter and that alone makes him better than Dexter Wynn.
It'll be nice to have Peterson on the team as they turn in a stellar 7-9 campaign.
He's next year's nickel. So much for drafting a DB early next year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 29, 2006, 02:30:48 PM
It'll be nice to have Peterson on the team as they turn in a stellar 7-9 campaign.
That must have been a typo. Surely you mean 4-12
Yes but Wynn has done a fine job on kickoff returns this year, and at least with him in there was was a sliver of hope that he'd break one. We'll now have to deal with Reno Mahe returning both punts and kicks for the rest of the year, and know that we have a .0001% chance of having a big special teams play for a TD.
:boom
With the blocking out there, you were expecting any kind of TD from them?
STs blocking sucks.
Quote from: Munson on October 29, 2006, 02:32:07 PM
Yes but Wynn has done a fine job on kickoff returns this year, and at least with him in there was was a sliver of hope that he'd break one. We'll now have to deal with Reno Mahe returning both punts and kicks for the rest of the year, and know that we have a .0001% chance of having a big special teams play for a TD.
:boom
The chance of muffing a kick is way higher than returning one for a TD, especially with Wynn.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 29, 2006, 02:30:13 PM
However, if he is healthy, this could be a very good pickup.
He sucks... seriously. Maybe he'll be ok as a nickle but he sucked on the Giants.
He did not suck.
If you say so... they got rid of the "Wills" for a reason, otherwise he'd still be on the team.
They dumped him due to injury. Allen was the suckier of the two. Either way he's the dime back.
And this team has bigger problems.
"we'll see"
Reid's response
Will Peterson... the 2006 Philadelphia Eagles defensive savior.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2006, 04:14:04 PM
Will Peterson... the 2006 Philadelphia Eagles defensive savior.
Superbowl!!
QuoteEagles Notes | Birds planning to bolster pass coverage
By Bob Brookover and Marc Narducci
Inquirer Staff Writers
At least one change will be made on the Eagles' roster today after their listless 13-6 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, which sent them into the bye week with a three-game losing streak and a 4-4 record.
A league source confirmed last night that the Eagles plan to sign former New York Giants cornerback Will Peterson if he passes a physical today at the NovaCare Complex.
The move comes at a curious time because cornerback Rod Hood, a mainstay as the team's nickel cornerback for the last three seasons, returned from a foot injury yesterday. The Eagles' biggest problem on defense the last two weeks has been stopping the run, not the passing game.
"I guess they threw for a lot of yards today and I guess they threw for a lot of yards last week, so maybe we do need another corner," cornerback Sheldon Brown said, noting his own sarcastic tone afterward. "They're always looking for good football players. We have a great cornerback in Rod Hood who's [an unrestricted free agent] after the year. We don't know what's going to happen with that situation. If they feel we need better corners, then we have to do that."
The Eagles surrendered just 85 passing yards to Tampa Bay last week and just 76 passing yards to the Jaguars yesterday. Both teams, however, played with backup quarterbacks and relied heavily on the run. Before the game against Tampa Bay, the Eagles had struggled in defending the pass.
Hood figured to help the pass defense after missing four straight games with heel spurs and a strained right heel. The fourth-year veteran returned yesterday, but he did not play a single defensive down as Joselio Hanson continued to be the cover man when the Eagles used three cornerbacks.
Brown said he thinks the Eagles' coaches were just being cautious with Hood.
"It was their call," Hood said. "I didn't expect it. I thought I was going to play a little bit. They call the shots."
Hood said he is not worried about the addition of Peterson.
"Whatever they do is what they do," he said. "It doesn't bother me. I'm going to keep doing my thing, and if they want me to play, I'll play. If they don't, then I won't... . I did play on special teams. I was on punt and punt return. It was a little weird I didn't play. I'm just waiting for them to call my number. I was ready."
Peterson, 27, was the Giants' third-round pick in 2001 and spent five seasons with the team. His 2005 season ended after just two games because of a back injury and the Giants released him in May. Peterson had five interceptions and started 37 games in New York.
Yo Sheldon...shut the farg up. Another example of this team thinking their shtein don't stink. Just like when all the secondary pals were pissed because Mike Lewis was benched.
SHUT UP AND PLAY FOOTBALL.
Christ this team is full of whiney little bitches.
Don't knock on "Happy Scrappy Hero Pup".
You're bound to encounter the wrath of PG. WRATH!
hes right tho...they will sign will peterson but most likely not rod hood
Exactly. Hood is gone anyway at the end of the year and the Eagles have just found their contingency plan.
Or they could be bringing in Will Peterson to destroy Hood's market value and possibly try and retain him for a lower price. Stating that, "well, you only played in X amount of games, you had a nagging injury all year, and you split time with Will Peterson, do you really think you can command that much dough?"
We'll see, though. Rod Hood should be playing. I was surprised on how much I saw Hanson on the field yesterday.
Or they could be bringing in Will Peterson to destroy Hood's market value and possibly try and retain him for a lower price. Stating that, "well, you only played in X amount of games, you had a nagging injury all year, and you split time with Will Peterson, do you really think you can command that much dough?"
yeah that will trick all those nfl gm's
stop it
gm's are gonna watch film of him play and make a determination as to whether he can play in the league or not...and if they believe he is starter material they will sign in and give him proper money
also do you really believe andy/banner would make the team worse just to try to get hood at a cheaper price in the offseason....as much as i dislike him that it the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever said
I didn't say 'make the team' worse, just that it is a possibility.
Don't be surprised if it is pulled out in contract negotiations though, it's all about bargaining power.
Did I say that it would happen? No, but to completely dismiss that they will weigh playing time, statistical outcomes, and others tangibles against one another is short-sighted.
Do you honestly think a GM in the NFL is going to offer starter money to Rod Hood if he plays sparsely between now and the end of the year? Or if he splits time with Will Peterson? I would hope you would conclude no. If a GM offers starter money to Rod Hood based off limited performance and appearances then that GM probably won't be in the league very long.
You don't throw money at someone who barely plays and give them a boatload in guarantees. The only franchise that makes a concerted effort to do that is the taterskins, and we've all seen how well that's worked out for them.
Now, that all being said, Rod Hood probably won't split time with Will Peterson, he'll probably outright win his job back at the 3rd CB position and hence his market value will increase when he starts to make big plays. However, be a little business savvy, IGY. After all, that is what the NFL is (it's actually a cartel but that's another story for another day).
Quote from: Eaglez on October 30, 2006, 01:16:18 PMDo you honestly think a GM in the NFL is going to offer starter money to Rod Hood if he plays sparsely between now and the end of the year? Or if he splits time with Will Peterson? I would hope you would conclude no. If a GM offers starter money to Rod Hood based off limited performance and appearances then that GM probably won't be in the league very long.
With all due respect, you're out to lunch. Good CBs are hard to come by, and Hood has already proven he's good. He's about to get PAID, whether or not he sees much game time over the next 8 games.
And the Eagles sure as hell aren't gonna be the team paying.
I didn't say 'make the team' worse, just that it is a possibility
you suggested that reid would play will peterson and sit hood...that would make the team worse...its a ludicrous accusation (and im a reid/banner hater) anyway i dont even know why im entertaining it
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2006, 08:12:50 AM
Christ this team is full of whiney little bitches.
kinda like this board....you know who you are!
Hood could miss the rest of the season and he'd still be in demand when FA starts. There is tape on him out there and some GM is going to make him a rich man.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2006, 10:15:19 AM
that it the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever said
I think my time-space continuum button just broke.
Quote from: dis12 on October 30, 2006, 03:24:06 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2006, 08:12:50 AM
Christ this team is full of whiney little bitches.
kinda like this board....you know who you are!
I'm telling my mommy on you!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2006, 04:01:19 PM
Hood could miss the rest of the season and he'd still be in demand when FA starts. There is tape on him out there and some GM is going to make him a rich man.
Doubtful the $ for him will get too outta control...so the Eagles will
attempt to keep him. Unless the market for Corners is hot, and the Birds go on the cheap.
I think the team will want Hood to come back and look good this season. That way they can let him walk and hopefully sign a good contract elsewhere so they can get a comp pick. These days $4-5 million per year with 30% signing bonus should get a 4th rounder (Dan Snyder would do it).
BTW, long time lurker, first time poster (so be gentle). You all have a great board going here.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 31, 2006, 02:08:47 AM
I think the team will want Hood to come back and look good this season. That way they can let him walk and hopefully sign a good contract elsewhere so they can get a comp pick. These days $4-5 million per year with 30% signing bonus should get a 4th rounder (Dan Snyder would do it).
BTW, long time lurker, first time poster (so be gentle). You all have a great board going here.
Welcome aboard. You picked a helluva time to engage. As you can sense we are all very pissed off so don't take anything personally, except from rjs. He means what he says.
Unless the market for Corners is hot, and the Birds go on the cheap.
the market for corners is always hot....to the point of overpaying
since Woodson and Law signed right away and all...
You're comparing old disgruntled players with injury histories and outrageous contract demands to Rod Hood? Come on, Ed.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 31, 2006, 02:08:47 AM
I think the team will want Hood to come back and look good this season. That way they can let him walk and hopefully sign a good contract elsewhere so they can get a comp pick. These days $4-5 million per year with 30% signing bonus should get a 4th rounder (Dan Snyder would do it).
BTW, long time lurker, first time poster (so be gentle). You all have a great board going here.
Hola. Anyone who registers as an Eagles fan after 3 straight losses is good people
Word...
Hood just turned 25 years old not even a month ago and he's still in his prime. He's got a ton of football left where as Law and Woodson are damn near at the end of their careers. He's just the type of guy that GM's looking for a DB will be looking for.
I don't know why people really try to convince themselves that Hood is coming back next year. He's gone. Every year, corners are among the most sought after FA's. It's not even a question that someone is going to offer him starter's money. When that happens... the Eagles are going to let him walk.
If this Will Peterson signing doesn't wake you up to that fact... I don't know what will.
The Eagles didn't actually sign Peterson yet.
I know that...
Then his immenent signing should wake everyone up.
I think it's far from immenent (sic).
i dont think signing peterson would have anything to do with hood unless its because hoods heel is no good
hood is gone and i dont see peterson as his replacement
i really dont understand the peterson thing at all
Like Hood is an awesome untapped gem of a CB or something. He's OK but nothing great, and he's going into a free agent market that will include Nate Clements, Asante Samuel and Nick Harper, so he's no better than the 4th CB on the market if us homers rate him that high. Clements and Samuel will probably get deals right away. The rest of the CB market? meh...
BTW Feva....Woodson, despite a couple of injuries, turned 30 a few weeks ago, so don't start that old crap... :P
Nate Clements is one of the most overrated players in the entire league.
all harris got like 20 million with 6 million guaranteed
hood is gonna get caked off....and not by the eagles
Would you say he'll be stackin cheddar like fat Andy stacks flapjacks?
Hood>Clements
Would you say he'll be stackin cheddar like fat Andy stacks flapjacks?
on the strength
He's signed it's offishul.
Oh and his name is William James now.
Quote from: King Cole on October 31, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
He's signed it's offishul.
Oh and his name is William James now.
WTF is up with name changing. Maybe I'll go with DIS99.
Maybe athletes should be seen and not heard or regarded outside of their given arenas.
it would be better if he just changed his name to Tre Peterson
I like the signing. There, I said it.
I dig.
Of course you do.
Two first names = gold standard.
He should have just changed his name to Toast to fit in with the other DBs.
I would have liked it if the deal was more than a year. They actually think a guy with no back can come in here and help this team turn it around. Its almost laughable when you think about it.
Why not sign him to a longer deal - I dunno, maybe 2 years? I mean, if he comes with the possibility that he take over for Hood next year, why not.....ah, forget it, it's not worth it.
James will be a pretty good addition to the secondary. Hanson has played well, but he still is a big liability by himself. If anything, The CB formerly known as William Peterson is a good coverage corner who, permitting, won't make big mistakes deep. I at least have more confidence in James than I do Hanson from the outset. We'll see if James is completely healed from that back problem very soon.
And, I don't get why everyone is blowing their wad over Hood. Yeah, he's all right, but the fact of the matter is where ever he ends up someone is going to over pay for him for really only three reasons (1) he's young (meaning 'upside') and (2) he's a cornerback and (3) he played pretty well for half a season when the Eagles were in the shteinter.
Not something to get your titties in a bunch over.
My titties are bunched, goddammit.
maybe they try moving him to safety.
Anyone who didn't know Rod Hood was gone when Lito and Sheldon were signed long term go on and punch yourself in the head. Him and his agent saw what bums like Brian Williams got on the open market and were drooling from the jump. Get through this season without a major injury and he's gonna get paid like crazy.
I also wish Will Peterson, the name change is gay (maybe I'll get suspended for saying gay like the ESPN announecr), and his explanation for it is even more gay, would've signed longer than 1yr. But he probably wanted it that way so if he plays well he's on the market and will get looks too. He's a prostitute and the Eagles are his pimp right now.
But I like the signing. Him with no arms is better than Dexter Wynn.
I
And, I don't get why everyone is blowing their wad over Hood. Yeah, he's all right, but the fact of the matter is where ever he ends up someone is going to over pay for him for really only three reasons (1) he's young (meaning 'upside') and (2) he's a cornerback and (3) he played pretty well for half a season when the Eagles were in the shteinter.
who blew their wad?...no one is upset that hood is leaving...we were merely saying that he is in fact going to leave and is going to get his duncan hines
New name, same stink.
We now have a discarded first name and a discarded last name, so we can start building a whole new player: Tra Peterson.
Can he play both CB and OT? In.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 06:25:43 AM
And, I don't get why everyone is blowing their wad over Hood. Yeah, he's all right, but the fact of the matter is where ever he ends up someone is going to over pay for him for really only three reasons (1) he's young (meaning 'upside') and (2) he's a cornerback and (3) he played pretty well for half a season when the Eagles were in the shteinter.
who blew their wad?...no one is upset that hood is leaving...we were merely saying that he is in fact going to leave and is going to get his duncan hines
we can always "tag" him for a year.
Yeah, the Eagles are good at using the tag and having no hard feelings.
So, you want the Eagles to set aside top 10 or top 5 corner money for Hood? :sly
The Gold standard has moved from knee injuries to spinal injuries. yes!
Out of respect for our new signee, the title of this topic should be changed*.
*to 'Eagles sign suck-ass CB who's changing his name like the loser he is'
Oh, and did anyone note that Dexter Wynn was released to make this signing happen?
Yay for a healthy dose of Reno through season end!
Spads always finds a way to make me ill
QuoteThe addition of William James is one of those signings that, in different circumstances, would make you stand up and say, "YES! The Eagles just gave themselves a boost that shows how smart this front office really is."
I believe that is how much adding James can mean to this defense. It's a reason I'm still so high on this team, on this organization, on the vision here and on the confidence I have that the second half of the year will be so much better than the first half.
I realize there are many issues to solve here. I realize adding James, a starting-quality cornerback when he is healthy -- and the Eagles are convinced he is healthy -- doesn't mean the Eagles will stop the run more effectively on defense, or control the line of scrimmage and the ball offensively, or make field position-changing plays on special teams.
But it is such a smart move. Peterson, having recovered from severe back problems, gives the Eagles four starting-caliber cornerbacks. And when you are lining up against teams capable of spreading you out with quality receivers -- teams like Washington, Carolina, Indianapolis and Dallas -- you need all the cover people you can find.
So instead of using Joselio Hanson -- and this is no slap at Hanson, who has played well -- the Eagles can use the talents and versatlity of James, who is a good-to-very good cornerback when he is on his game.
With James, Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown and Roderick Hood, the Eagles have as good a foursome as you will find anywhere.
It works.
Going out and getting James is a credit to Andy Reid and Tom Heckert and Joe Banner and Jeffrey Lurie. I like the vision. I like thinking outside the box like this.
Now, the Eagles released Dexter Wynn, a good guy and a promising player. Wynn was waived in the preseason and then came back during the regular season and he showed a spark and a new tempo for a couple of weeks. That juice faded, though, and Wynn was inactive on Sunday against Jacksonville.
So the Eagles have some answers to provide in the return game, too. Is Reno Mahe the answer as a kickoff return man? Certainly, the Eagles have to get something going. They don't have a "pure" return man on the roster, and it could be that Hood goes back to the kickoff job. He is expected to be very close to, if not at, 100 percent for November 12 against Washington.
Mahe is a capable punt returner. If the Eagles really need a boost in the punt game, they can put Brian Westbrook or Sheppard back to break a game open.
More on that next week when John Harbaugh sifts through his options and the players available to him on the game-day roster.
Hey, color me optimistic. I know the Eagles are 4-4 and have some ground to cover. The focus, as Andy Reid says over and over, is to beat Washington. When he is asked whether the Eagles are a "playoff team," he bristles.
"We need a win first," says Reid.
James helps the Eagles win. It's a no-risk signing that could pay big, big dividends in the immediate future. I like it a lot, and it shows me again the way the Eagles think. They're always thinking, always looking for ways to improve. The Eagles don't hit home runs every time, but, well, I like the whole setup here. I think James is going to add to the mix as the team prepares for the taterskins.
Reid should be shteincanned for keeping Mahe on the roster alone.
Mahe wouldn't make an Arena League team.
Going out and getting James is a credit to Andy Reid and Tom Heckert and Joe Banner and Jeffrey Lurie. I like the vision. I like thinking outside the box like this.
James helps the Eagles win. It's a no-risk signing that could pay big, big dividends in the immediate future
if its a no risk signing.....and they got a guy who is a starting nfl cornerback who is going to help immediately then why is it such a visionary outside the box signing....
and since when is signing someone with half a back no risk?
ill doesnt begin to describe how that piece makes me feel
I wish I could care enough to get upset over what a PR flunkie has to say about the Eagles.
Quote from: MURP on November 01, 2006, 02:03:23 PM
Spads always finds a way to make me ill
QuoteThe addition of James is one of those signings that, in different circumstances, would make you stand up and say, "YES! The Eagles just gave themselves a boost that shows how smart this front office really is."
I believe that is how much adding James can mean to this defense. It's a reason I'm still so high on this team, on this organization, on the vision here and on the confidence I have that the second half of the year will be so much better than the first half.
Did we sign Erasmus James?
I really like signings that can pay big, big dividends in the immediate future of guys that don't even know the defensive scheme. It's really neat. We should get some more.
New Name... New Attitude. Hall. Of. Fame.
This is one of those signings that the guy will show just enough to get another deal with a team after the season and move on to have a Pro Bowl career.
shawn barber.
Um guys, I doubt he'll even see the field this year.
I said... Hall. Of. Fame.
Yeah, but you're black, so you only get 3/5 of a vote.
Yeah, but he can probably dance and ball a lot better than you. Honky.
Not to mention that I have a built-in ability to intimidate any white person I see into voting him in.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 01, 2006, 09:12:46 PM
Not to mention that I have a built-in ability to intimidate any white person I see into voting him in.
:-D Feva's been banging out he jokes lately :yay
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 01, 2006, 01:02:12 PM
Oh, and did anyone note that Dexter Wynn was released to make this signing happen?
Yay for a healthy dose of Reno through season end!
I noted that in another thread, if not earlier in this one.
I'm hella excited to have Reno as our main return man. Never know when he'll take one to the house. :crazy
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 01, 2006, 09:12:46 PM
Not to mention that I have a built-in ability to intimidate any white person I see into voting him in crossing to the other side of the street.
Quote from: Munson on November 01, 2006, 11:45:41 PM
I'm hella excited to have Reno as our main return man. Never know when he'll take one to the house. :crazy
Whose house? RUN'S HOUSE.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 01, 2006, 01:02:12 PM
Oh, and did anyone note that Dexter Wynn was released to make this signing happen?
Yay for a healthy dose of Reno through season end!
QuoteDexter Wynn-DB- Texans Nov. 2 - 9:48 am et
Texans signed CB Dexter Wynn and waived CB Derrick Johnson.
Johnson had barely played after signing from San Francisco early in the year. Wynn, an ex-Eagle, will challenge David Anderson to return punts
Reno is sure-handed... That is all.