the random musings not worthy of new thread thread

[Diomedes]

Dio, I was saying I wouldn't be opposed, not that it should happen.

But it affected a lot of people in more ways than OKC did. And killed thousands more, not to minimize OKC at all, but thems the facts.

I didn't need the media coverage to make 9/11 affect me more deeply.

Yeah yeah, I get all that.  I was living and working there when it happened.  Everyone was affected, blah blah.  I don't think that means every one needs a pile of nuked steel on a concrete pedestal to remember and honor those killed.  I detect a weirdness to the proliferation of these things. 

I also don't buy the "everyone was affected," thing as much as others.  Everyone wants to be affected, everyone wants to say they knew someone, or knew someone who knew someone, but the fact of the matter is that Millersville, MD has better things to do with it's money and political will than build a memorial to 9/11.

And now I've said enough on the subject.  I'm going to go start a neighborhood committee to put up our own memorial at the playground.  I have a connect for some beams through my stolen car fence.

[paco]

the 9/11 memorial that my company built is finished and we are going to the dedication on Saturday at Liberty State Park.

it was a stressful farging job, but we got it done and I think it looks good.

There are some pictures here

Damn, thats bad ass man.

[Sgt PSN]

Dio, I was saying I wouldn't be opposed, not that it should happen.

But it affected a lot of people in more ways than OKC did. And killed thousands more, not to minimize OKC at all, but thems the facts.

I didn't need the media coverage to make 9/11 affect me more deeply.

Yeah yeah, I get all that.  I was living and working there when it happened.  Everyone was affected, blah blah.  I don't think that means every one needs a pile of nuked steel on a concrete pedestal to remember and honor those killed.  I detect a weirdness to the proliferation of these things. 

I also don't buy the "everyone was affected," thing as much as others.  Everyone wants to be affected, everyone wants to say they knew someone, or knew someone who knew someone, but the fact of the matter is that Millersville, MD has better things to do with it's money and political will than build a memorial to 9/11.

And now I've said enough on the subject.  I'm going to go start a neighborhood committee to put up our own memorial at the playground.  I have a connect for some beams through my stolen car fence.

Most people are too brain whipped to say ^^this^^ or are afraid to it because god forbid you say anything even remotely negative about 9/11, but Dio is 100% correct.  I would argue that the attacks on Pearl Harbor were just as devestating, perhaps even more so than 9/11.  The body count was about half of 9/11 but the people who died in that attack were soldiers and sailors from all over the country.  I can't say for certain, but I'd be willing to bet that at least one person from each of the 48 states died during that attack.  I don't know if the same can be said for the WTC. 

The bottom line here is that this country is absolutely obsessed with memorials.  Road side memorials for peolpe who die in auto accidents, putting those stupid "In Memory Of ....." decals on the back window of a vehicle.  It's one of the most self absorbed "look at me" things that a person can do now.  You know someone who died.  Big farging deal.  I know a lot of people who died, but I'm not tattooing my body, decaling my car or constructing some god awful shrine on public property to "honor" someone who in the grand scheme of things, had very little impact on the world we live in. 

Farg memorials.  And while we're at it, farg scholorships and charities that are started because Joe Schmoe died tragically.  There's probably already a very good scholorship or charity out there that does the same exact thing, so just donate to that one instead.  Farging tools. 

[General_Failure]

You know what's really awesome? Memorial tattoos that turn out hideous.

[ice grillin you]

9/11 was a terrible thing and was the biggest event of two thousand one....thats about as far as ill go

america needs to get over itself

[Sgt PSN]

Marines are farging terrible with the memorial tattoos.  I couldn't even begin to count how many I've met over the years who have tattoos with the name or even face of a friend of theirs that died in combat.  And I use the term "friend" loosely because in most cases, this was someone who they've known less than a year.  But they're 19 years old, so 1 year is still a pretty significant chunk of their life I suppose.  By the time they turn 25 they'll barely remember anything specific about the guy. 

[SunMo]

When you say "concrete wall," you mean, formed and poured, not block work, right?  How long is it?  How tall?  What kind/how big of a footer did you lay under it? 
those plates must have been difficult to handle.  And with only a sixteenth tolerance, it must have been tricky getting them all to line up properly.  How wide is the vertical gap between each panel?

You can't just throw something like that together...there were some damn good builders working that job.

Well done.

The wall is approximately 55' high by 200' long and yeah a poured block wall, but we didn't do that just the stainless portion, so I don't know what type of footer they used.

The plates were extremely difficult to handle, we fabricated custom suction cup rigs to use with our overhead crane to move them in the shop.

as far as the alignment, it was difficult, but we had each sheet laser cut to the exact 8' x 4' dimensions so the spacing is pretty consistent, there was more an issue of in and out alignment, but we shimmed every piece as necessary as we put the vertical sections together.

[phattymatty]

so the national cathedral had some damage from the earthquake the other week and they brought in this huge crane to fix it, which i could see from my roof.

that farger blew over in the storm two days ago. pretty scary.

http://ow.ly/i/gVbt/original

[hbionic]

Wow. That fell perfectly. Looks like no damage to anything.

Poor design on those things. shtein's not supposed to blow over.

[Sgt PSN]

Pretty much everyone from Yuma to San Diego is currently without power, along with parts of northern Mexico and southern Orange County.  Apparently some sort of transmission line failed that triggered a bunch of power failures in the entire region. 

[Diomedes]

terrorism, obviously

[shorebird]

Theres one thing different from 911 and Vietnam,  WWI, WWII, or Pear Harbor. They were civilians going about thier everyday lives, not soldiers. And it was an attack on American soil.

Big difference.

[PhillyPhreak54]

That memorial that Sunny's company built is goddamn impressive

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Theres one thing different from 911 and Vietnam,  WWI, WWII, or Pear Harbor. They were civilians going about thier everyday lives, not soldiers. And it was an attack on American soil.

Big difference.

Hawaii was a U.S. Territory at the time - FYI

[General_Failure]

Anyway, miltary bases count as that nation's soil, no matter where they are.