Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[mpmcgraw]

Bush got us into a two country war, destroyed our economy, and stepped all over our basic liberties and fundamental American beliefs.

Obama has...?

[General_Failure]

Is there some quota I'm unaware of where every message board has to have one guy constantly going apeshtein?

[Sgt PSN]

munson's post was actually pretty good (exceptional if you go by munson standards) but yeah, the seasonal unemployment thing is a really bad explanation for the current condition of the job market.  in fact, if it wasn't for that stroke of genius, i'd be convinced that munson copied that entire thing from somewhere else.  actually, i still think that's the case and he just threw his .02 in there to make it his own. 

seasonal unemployment.  ha! 

[Munson]

Sarge, I did not cite seasonal unemployment as the reason why unemployment is so high. I cited it as being the reason why the amount of people losing their jobs went up in September after being down in the 3 months prior. It seems that college kids leaving their jobs to go back to school and thus adding to the amount of people technically counted as unemployed in the month of September would contribute, no? Or do you have a hard time understanding common sense? No, obviously seasonal does not explain the zesty employment situation overall...But after decreasing numbers of lost jobs all summer, only to see an increase in September, can be at least in part due to the seasonal effect.

Seasonal in the winter adds to the unemployment number due mostly just to the increase of people who decide to look for jobs. A person who sits idle for 4 weeks without bothering to look for a job is no longer counted as unemployed. But once you get to the end of October/start of November you see an increase of people looking for retail seasonal employment, and those people then get counted into the unemployment number. The fact is this year retailers are not hiring as many seasonal workers for the Christmas holiday because the lower sales don't allow for it.

[Munson]

Seasonal unemployment? Man, I don't think of you like others here, but damn. When unemployment is the highest it's ever been in forever, thats the best you can come up with? Seasonal unemnployment?

Now obviously this chart is from a biased site

Exactly. You say that you have provided the numbers  but I have too say no, I don't agree with them. What fargin numbers are you talkking about, the ones on your pay stub?? Ha! Over 15 million Americans out of work beg too differ. A unemployment rate of 10.3 says different. And I say again for like the 10th time, were are the 4.3 million jobs?? No one has an answer because they aren't there. And you think because you're having a hard time navigating around your neighborhood that there is the money being spent on the infastructure. Christ man, open your eyes, that money is long gone.

damn, Munron ftw

HAhahaha! For the win. My ass shteintin in your face. No one here can admit how it really is. Our president sucks ass, and it's only been a year. If he keeps going the way he's going now, he'll be worse than Bush ever was, but none of you Obama nut hanging liberal corksuckers would ever admit it, even if the economy is falling apart around your ignorant I love Obama asses.

Shorebird, now you're sounding a fear mongering Fox talking head. Yes, I provided the numbers for you, I'll state them again: The economy in the 3rd quarter (July, August, September) grew for the first time in over a year, and at a rate that is considered to be normal and wanted (2.7%). http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm
The early estimations for the 4th quarter (October, November, December) have it growing at a 2.5% rate.

Yes, unemployment is lagging behind the growth, and I believe as Obama pointed out a long time ago that was to be expected. Why are you acting as if he promised it would definitely get better right away and it got worse with no warning from your leader? Do you really think McCain or anyone else would ahve somehow magically fixed everything right away? What would your solution be? So far we've seen growth in an economy that was deflating for almost a year, and sooner or later the unemployment number will stop lagging behind and jobs will start opening up. That is of course if hte economy continues to stabilize and recover. We're at a point where it could swing either way, but Keynesian theory says a goverment spending money to stimulate the economy is how you make up for the decreased private investments and individual spending. And that's what the government is doing at the moment.


And I'm not just talking about my hometown, nimrod. Everywhere I drive there seems to be construction lately....Wilmington, Newark, Exton, West Chester, Morgantown, Reading, Jersey, etc....The Delaware portion of the 95 corridor has been under steady work for the last month and a half now. So I see it but that doesn't mean shtein and it must only be localized...but you DON'T see it, and that must mean it's not happening anywhere and all the money is gone....okay. That makes sense.

[ice grillin you]

i'd be convinced that munson copied that entire thing from somewhere else.   

ha...ya think?

pretty much 99% of every munson more than a couple sentance post in this thread was copied and pasted or at best plagerized from somewhere else he hangs out...

there were a few back in the day that he tried to pass off as his own that were just ridiculous...liek they easily could ahve come out of the wall street journal

i guess now like you say he includes one of his own moronic thoughts in with the rest to try and make it look more legit

[shorebird]

Job summit today

Stimulus

Obama earlier this year pushed through Congress a $787 billion economic stimulus package that his administration said would hold unemployment below 8 percent.

An analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the stimulus generated between 600,000 and 1.6 million jobs and lowered the nation's unemployment rate by between 0.3 and 0.9 percentage points, even as that rate rose into double digits.

"You're in a position of a doctor that prescribed aspirin and says 'this will bring down your fever' and instead of 105 you have 101, but you still have a fever," said Alan Blinder, a Princeton University economist and former Federal Reserve vice chairman who will be among the 130 participants in today's forum.

[Tomahawk]

Wars are expensive and adding another 30,000 soldiers is only going to add to the cost, even moreso since in 18 months we'll commit to at least another 6 months. Our national debt is already ridiculously huge so where is this money to fund the war coming from?

[ice grillin you]

same place the iraq war money came from

money isnt the issue right now lives are

[Sgt PSN]

Sarge, I did not cite seasonal unemployment as the reason why unemployment is so high. I cited it as being the reason why the amount of people losing their jobs went up in September after being down in the 3 months prior. It seems that college kids leaving their jobs to go back to school and thus adding to the amount of people technically counted as unemployed in the month of September would contribute, no? Or do you have a hard time understanding common sense? No, obviously seasonal does not explain the zesty employment situation overall...But after decreasing numbers of lost jobs all summer, only to see an increase in September, can be at least in part due to the seasonal effect.

Seasonal in the winter adds to the unemployment number due mostly just to the increase of people who decide to look for jobs. A person who sits idle for 4 weeks without bothering to look for a job is no longer counted as unemployed. But once you get to the end of October/start of November you see an increase of people looking for retail seasonal employment, and those people then get counted into the unemployment number. The fact is this year retailers are not hiring as many seasonal workers for the Christmas holiday because the lower sales don't allow for it.

surely all of the shopping mall santas balance everything out.  they have to.  i mean, it's freaking santa claus

[Munson]

i'd be convinced that munson copied that entire thing from somewhere else.   

ha...ya think?

pretty much 99% of every munson more than a couple sentance post in this thread was copied and pasted or at best plagerized from somewhere else he hangs out...

there were a few back in the day that he tried to pass off as his own that were just ridiculous...liek they easily could ahve come out of the wall street journal

i guess now like you say he includes one of his own moronic thoughts in with the rest to try and make it look more legit

If that were true all you'd have to do is plug a few sentences into google and where I copied it from should come up.


Oh wait, it won't because...oh, I didn't copy it. I just make your pea sized leftist only brain look as tiny as it really is.

[Munson]

Sarge, I did not cite seasonal unemployment as the reason why unemployment is so high. I cited it as being the reason why the amount of people losing their jobs went up in September after being down in the 3 months prior. It seems that college kids leaving their jobs to go back to school and thus adding to the amount of people technically counted as unemployed in the month of September would contribute, no? Or do you have a hard time understanding common sense? No, obviously seasonal does not explain the zesty employment situation overall...But after decreasing numbers of lost jobs all summer, only to see an increase in September, can be at least in part due to the seasonal effect.

Seasonal in the winter adds to the unemployment number due mostly just to the increase of people who decide to look for jobs. A person who sits idle for 4 weeks without bothering to look for a job is no longer counted as unemployed. But once you get to the end of October/start of November you see an increase of people looking for retail seasonal employment, and those people then get counted into the unemployment number. The fact is this year retailers are not hiring as many seasonal workers for the Christmas holiday because the lower sales don't allow for it.

surely all of the shopping mall santas balance everything out.  they have to.  i mean, it's freaking santa claus

At least they're legit santa's these days. I remember when I was younger and they had the fake beard and fake whtie hair....the dudes I see these days are actually old white men with a grizzly adams jaun.

[Munson]

Seasonal unemployment? Man, I don't think of you like others here, but damn. When unemployment is the highest it's ever been in forever, thats the best you can come up with? Seasonal unemnployment?

Now obviously this chart is from a biased site

Exactly. You say that you have provided the numbers  but I have too say no, I don't agree with them. What fargin numbers are you talkking about, the ones on your pay stub?? Ha! Over 15 million Americans out of work beg too differ. A unemployment rate of 10.3 says different. And I say again for like the 10th time, were are the 4.3 million jobs?? No one has an answer because they aren't there. And you think because you're having a hard time navigating around your neighborhood that there is the money being spent on the infastructure. Christ man, open your eyes, that money is long gone.

damn, Munron ftw

HAhahaha! For the win. My ass shteintin in your face. No one here can admit how it really is. Our president sucks ass, and it's only been a year. If he keeps going the way he's going now, he'll be worse than Bush ever was, but none of you Obama nut hanging liberal corksuckers would ever admit it, even if the economy is falling apart around your ignorant I love Obama asses.

Shorebird, now you're sounding a fear mongering Fox talking head. Yes, I provided the numbers for you, I'll state them again: The economy in the 3rd quarter (July, August, September) grew for the first time in over a year, and at a rate that is considered to be normal and wanted (2.7%). http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm
The early estimations for the 4th quarter (October, November, December) have it growing at a 2.5% rate.

Yes, unemployment is lagging behind the growth, and I believe as Obama pointed out a long time ago that was to be expected. Why are you acting as if he promised it would definitely get better right away and it got worse with no warning from your leader? Do you really think McCain or anyone else would ahve somehow magically fixed everything right away? What would your solution be? So far we've seen growth in an economy that was deflating for almost a year, and sooner or later the unemployment number will stop lagging behind and jobs will start opening up. That is of course if hte economy continues to stabilize and recover. We're at a point where it could swing either way, but Keynesian theory says a goverment spending money to stimulate the economy is how you make up for the decreased private investments and individual spending. And that's what the government is doing at the moment.


And I'm not just talking about my hometown, nimrod. Everywhere I drive there seems to be construction lately....Wilmington, Newark, Exton, West Chester, Morgantown, Reading, Jersey, etc....The Delaware portion of the 95 corridor has been under steady work for the last month and a half now. So I see it but that doesn't mean shtein and it must only be localized...but you DON'T see it, and that must mean it's not happening anywhere and all the money is gone....okay. That makes sense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/business/economy/05jobs.html?_r=2&hp




Also, according to the article, The Bureau of Labor Statistics has stated the number of jobs lost in September did NOT go up from August like what was first reported.

11,000, while not an accurate number as of yet most likely as we're only 4 days into December, is the lowest amount of people to lose their jobs since the first official month of the recession, January of 08.




Damn you Obama Administration!

[phillymic2000]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/aide_crasher_confession_H3KDTbOhqGxAzmiomqV2MO

Desiree Rogers claimed in an interview with the trade magazine BizBash at the Creative Coalition's annual meeting in June that she had added extra tables and benches at every event to accommodate uninvited guests.

"Lots of people just come anyways," she said. "They won't take no for an answer. Finally, I just said, 'All right, come on in. It's no use kicking you out.' "

how were the Secret Service agents suspended and this numbnut still has her job?

and where is the outcry on the global warming e-mails? its all hyped up bullshiit

[mpmcgraw]

Yes, its a conspiracy.

It wasn't just a few numbnuts talking informally about sucking at their jobs.  We can obviously just throw out all other evidence supporting global warming.

How could we possibly be effecting our enviroment right?  It's ridiculous!  Those polar ice caps melting and those drowning polar bears are just big made up lies by the left wing media!  In fact there are TOO MANY polar bears.  If anything we should be shooting them with high powered rifles from helicopters, not trying to save them!