Sheldon Brown wants to be traded

Started by SD_Eagle5, April 20, 2009, 01:49:51 PM

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ice grillin you

sheldon has easily outplayed his deal...have you seen the market?...and im not talking about what samuel is being paid but like sb said look at a guy sitting next to him in the locker room in joselio hanson...or a daylon mcutceon...

no one is saying sheldon is champ bailey and should be compensated as such...but to say he hasnt outplayed his deal is just not true

and forget how good or not good you think sheldon is....look at the bigger and more important picture...the team...who is going to replace sheldon...the cupboard is completely bare...its not like with lito where you had sheldon and joselio to move up...now its joselio and iggywanoo or move demps over or whatever other plan f you have in mind...thats an incredibly large drop off for a team that should be trying to win now
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

cj2112

I'm surprised that there's even a discussion about this.  Sheldon should shut the farg up because he's going to lose to the front office on this one.  Has he even been paying attention since he's been here?  Banner and Reid stuck it to TO and to Lito, both Pro Bowl players with better skills and reputation around the league.  Sheldon hasn't even sniffed the Pro Bowl, even in 2004 when only the whole freaking team went.  

If he actually makes a statement about either the cap situation or Reid or Banner personally, he's digging his own grave.  

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:19:54 PM
It's easy to take a side after the situations play out.  I still think Lito has a solid argument that he got a raw deal.  Westbrook has been so great for this team, that's it's hard to side against him.  The team would be worse without Sheldon Brown, and he has been a solid and occasionally great Eagle.  But even when he signed the last deal, his agent is on record as to why.

My sticking point on this is that Sheldon has not exceeded the expectations of that last deal.  He's played a lot of games, and he's done well, but he's not significantly better than anyone thought he'd be.  So, for him to sit out and DEMAND a new contract seems a bit too much.  Still, I think the players have a right to try to get paid, as long as they live up to their existing contract in the mean time.  Like Jason Peters, only the exact opposite.
so its appropriate that Joselio the Dong Hanson is getting paid more than him? 

joselio makes more money than sheldon because he gets paid by the inch.  

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:25:39 PM
If Brown wanted to revisit his deal after three years, he should have signed a three-year deal, or at least had his agent set up an "out" if certain performance escalators are hit.

thats not how the nfl works....the team trys to get a long term deal to spread shtein out  and make it back end heavy and the player tries to get guaranteed money...the team evaulautes contracts every year and if they dont like the way its going they just cut the player...the only leverage a player has when he doesnt liek the way things are headed is to renegotiate...the fundemental lack of understanding on how the business works is staggering around here...this isnt like you or me closing on a mortgage and then deciding in five years we dont like our house payment...this is pro sports and more specifically pro football...its not the same as the real world
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 12:16:16 PM
when the eagles are a trillion dollars under the cap and were two minutes away from the superbowl they should take care of a top player on their team who is underpaid and at a position of no depth...otherwise you have to question their committment to winning...to spin this into some kind of moral stance is idiotic...this is about football and winning a title

i've been doing that for about 3 years now.  

Tomahawk

I wouldn't say he's digging his own grave. I agree Reid & Co. will kick him to the curb, but as far as Sheldon's concerned that's a good thing

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
sheldon has easily outplayed his deal...have you seen the market?...and im not talking about what samuel is being paid but like sb said look at a guy sitting next to him in the locker room in joselio hanson...or a daylon mcutceon...

no one is saying sheldon is champ bailey and should be compensated as such...but to say he hasnt outplayed his deal is just not true

Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:25:39 PM
Do you guys think the Eagles are the only team that doesn't re-up everyone to the current market rate every time they ask?

The fact is that if he were on the open market, he WOULD be getting a pay raise.  But he's not.  Instead of playing out his rookie deal and then getting caked, he went for the easy out of the "interim" deal.  Maybe he planned to do it all along, maybe not.  But just because the new deals guys are getting make his look smaller doesn't mean he's OUTPERFORMED the deal he signed.  He hasn't.  They expected him to be a solid starter, and that's exactly what he is.  But again, he has a right to ASK.  If Banner and company wouldn't even entertain it or hear him out, THAT is the farging problem.

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
look at the bigger and more important picture...the team...who is going to replace sheldon...the cupboard is completely bare...its not like with lito where you had sheldon and joselio to move up...now its joselio and iggywanoo or move demps over or whatever other plan f you have in mind...thats an incredibly large drop off for a team that should be trying to win now

I have a problem with this too.  As a fan, I would like this to go away any way possible so Sheldon can line up this season.  If he holds out or gets traded, the Eagles are worse off.  The situation just sucks.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
Les Bowen is on the radio now saying that Sheldon has been asking to sit down through back channels and Banner wouldn't even meet with him.  That's why Sheldon finally decided to come out public.

THAT is the problem. That is ALWAYS the problem. Give your farging players an ounce of respect.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
Les Bowen is on the radio now saying that Sheldon has been asking to sit down through back channels and Banner wouldn't even meet with him.  That's why Sheldon finally decided to come out public.

THAT is the problem. That is ALWAYS the problem. Give your farging players an ounce of respect.

I would love for someone to disagree with this.

General_Failure

Quote from: cj2112 on April 21, 2009, 12:27:32 PM
Sheldon should shut the farg up because he's going to lose to the front office on this one.  Has he even been paying attention since he's been here?  Banner and Reid stuck it to TO and to Lito, both Pro Bowl players with better skills and reputation around the league.

Both of them eventually got what they wanted. There is no losing for players in these situations. Someone else is always willing to pay them, the only question is when.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 21, 2009, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 12:16:16 PM
when the eagles are a trillion dollars under the cap and were two minutes away from the superbowl they should take care of a top player on their team who is underpaid and at a position of no depth...otherwise you have to question their committment to winning...to spin this into some kind of moral stance is idiotic...this is about football and winning a title

i've been doing that for about 3 years now.  

Winning is not, and has never been their goal. Their goal is making money. Making the playoffs on the cheap means you buy more crap, watch more games, and sometimes buy more increasingly expensive tickets.

The man. The myth. The legend.

ice grillin you

Quote from: cj2112 on April 21, 2009, 12:27:32 PM
I'm surprised that there's even a discussion about this.  Sheldon should shut the farg up because he's going to lose to the front office on this one.  Has he even been paying attention since he's been here?  Banner and Reid stuck it to TO and to Lito, both Pro Bowl players with better skills and reputation around the league.  Sheldon hasn't even sniffed the Pro Bowl, even in 2004 when only the whole freaking team went.   


lolol @ banner sticking it to TO and lito...both got caked off after leaving the eagles

and yes sheldon is payin attention...he saw his buddy lito get out for more money and he saw peters just roll into the locker room after doing the same thing in buffalo...im not saying he will win this battle but everything he sees around him says he will

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
Les Bowen is on the radio now saying that Sheldon has been asking to sit down through back channels and Banner wouldn't even meet with him.  That's why Sheldon finally decided to come out public.

THAT is the problem. That is ALWAYS the problem. Give your farging players an ounce of respect.


forget banner meeting with him...sheldon couldnt even get banners evil assistant to meet with him...the birds are the worst people person organization ive ever seen...banners napolean/revenge of the nerds complex is sickening
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

the eagles are the wal-mart of the nfl.   

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 12:38:45 PM
both got caked off after leaving the eagles

pretty sure Lito would not have agreed to this contract with the Eagles - less than $5m a season is not getting caked off to a starting CB (for evidence, ask Sheldon Brown)

General_Failure

At this point, I hope Sheldon gets traded, gets a new contract, and maybe has a shot or two to win a superbowl. Westbrook and Sheldon for Boldin and a 3rd!

The man. The myth. The legend.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
Les Bowen is on the radio now saying that Sheldon has been asking to sit down through back channels and Banner wouldn't even meet with him.  That's why Sheldon finally decided to come out public.

THAT is the problem. That is ALWAYS the problem. Give your farging players an ounce of respect.

I would love for someone to disagree with this.

I disagree