Sheldon Brown wants to be traded

[ice grillin you]

the team wouldnt not honor those deals would they romey?...a contract is a contract...i mean why did the organization sign those deals way back when?

[ice grillin you]

i think i figured it out...when a rich white guy does it hes a cap genius...when a young black kid does it hes an ignorant selfish prick

[Rome]

That's exactly my point.  The Eagles point to a contract they likely have no intent in honoring and expect the player to take it and shut the farg up.

It's bullshtein, plain and simple.

[Sgt PSN]

in summation, neither players or teams ever let an nfl contract run it's course.  and it only took 6 pages of posts before bringing it up.  you guys are awesome.  

[ice grillin you]

it would never have to be brought up again if it wasnt for the army of people who come out and murder players for "not honoring a contract" and calling them dumbasses for signing a deal five farging years ago...which is a lifetime in nfl contract land...yet not holding the teams to the same standard

if people just looked at all nfl contracts as non binding and then looked at each individual renogotiation case on its own merits then made an educated decision about whos they think is right and who is wrong it would be a much better world and theyd find out that sometimes the player is being irrational and sometimes the team is...but the whole you MUST honor a signed contract or youre a douchbag view as if this is the real world and not pro football is so ignorant it makes me wanna hurt something

[phillymic2000]

How are the eagles not honoring his deal? are you saying what you say/type is not relevant? you did post it.

question: when the eagles cut reggie brown this summer are you gonna go to bat for him like youre going after sheldon in this case

Instead of puff puff pass, igy likes to duck duck come up with a racist response. paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalease answer my question. Did the Eagles tell him that or is that your weak ass attempt to make scrappy look like the victim?

[phillymic2000]

i think i figured it out...when a rich white guy does it hes a cap genius...when a young black kid does it hes an ignorant selfish prick

just like Jesse and Al, you are the first to pull out the race card  redunkulous

[Rome]

I didn't reference racism at all, yet for some reason you completely ignored my post outlining why Brown is right and the Eagles are wrong.

Shocking.

Facts are like kryptonite to some of you motherfargers.

[MDS]

im not running through six pages of ff front office suckling and igy and peanut gallary crying foul but suffice to say the smug, arrogant, elitist iceholes in the front office who have never won a superbowl and never will can go suck my ass hair.

[QB Eagles]

 

why do you hold sheldon brown to a standard that he must honor the entire length of his deal but you dont hold the team to that same expectation

Because that's what the CBA says? The players union could negotiate for totally guaranteed contracts if they would like. Of course the salaries under such contracts would likely be much, much less, but the owners would certainly be open to it if the union was willing to make such concessions. The players have decided that they want bigger, longer, non-guaranteed contracts (or to be more accurate, the union has decided that on their behalf). Of course a significant fraction of their salary actually IS guaranteed: the signing bonus.

Personally I don't think 100% guaranteed contracts would make sense in the NFL. The economics of the league work better when teams don't pay players who are cut; it saves the teams cash and raises the salary pool for all the players who ARE playing. The lack of a guarantee is extra incentive for players with long-term deals to remain competitive, too. There are a lot more guys on a football team than in other professional sports with guaranteed contracts, and the odds of serious injury are much higher too. Teams would be saddled down with salaries for twice as many guys as they have playing on the team. Splitting the money in the labor pool for each team 100 ways will have the primary short-term effect of shifting money from productive players to deadweight players. The long-term effect of guaranteed contracts will be that the vast majority of the league will be signing only 1 year contracts.

I don't really care what happens in this particular dispute as long as the end result is the one less damaging to the team I root for. But enough bitching about the lack of guaranteed contracts. I think the era of labor peace and relative parity has been good for the fans and for the sport, and it's made both the teams and players much, much more wealthy than their predecessors were. They farg with a winning formula at their own peril... and that goes for either the owners or the players.

[phillymic2000]

I didn't reference racism at all, yet for some reason you completely ignored my post outlining why Brown is right and the Eagles are wrong.

Shocking.

Facts are like kryptonite to some of you motherfargers.

i wasn't talking to you. shocking!

[Rome]

Yeah, I know.  You'd rather get into an argument with IGY over racism than actually discuss the topic at hand.  Not so shocking at all.

[reese125]

people in here are hysterical--never play both sides of the coin and always ready to blame management no matter what

the farging guy has 3 years left on his deal and has the potential to earn another 15 million--you have to set a precedent for your team. should every player that has 3 years left just come a knocking and ask for a raise pubicly because they feel they outperformed their contract...cmon now.

Im still trying to figure out why everyone is so enamored with Sheldon Brown. You cant live without all those int's, blazing speed and great hands.... or maybe its the stellar championship game performance he had?

Brown is a nice tackler and really good against a teams #2 and #3 receivers, but has consistently gotten crushed on the switch. Hes only worth the 5 million a year he has earned the past 2 years....so unless you think hes a shut down corner hes getting paid just fine and in the wrong for coming out like that...but keep blaming the FO

[Phanatic]

I don't care who's wrong between management and player really. farg em both. All I know is that this shtein brings the team down into the gutter and means we won't lose another NFC championship this year cause we won't even make the dance.  Yay team! Go Gints!

[Eagaholic]

an expanded article on the Eagle's quote

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090421_Birds_tell_Brown__No_trade__no_raise.html