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Title: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 18, 2009, 10:51:53 AM
So far they've replaced the offensive tackles with Pro Bowl caliber OTs who are both under 30 years old, added the best available FB in free agency, added a promising young safety (Jones) plus depth at S and a strong ST player (Baker), and they still have 10 picks in the draft next weekend. If they come out of day 1 with a starting caliber RB and a TE, this offseason has got to be an A because they'll have completely rebuilt the OL with young talent and added weapons in the running game.

I'm usually trashing this FO but they've had a terrific offseason. :yay
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: DH on April 18, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
I cant say I disagree, but get ready to be slammed for starting a new thread on this when there was a perfectly good offseason thread waiting to hear your input.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 18, 2009, 11:00:54 AM
Sorry, I'm new here and I'm not too bright. ;D
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: rjs246 on April 18, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
I'm just happy that they let that bum Dawkins walk.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 18, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Let's see what they do Saturday before we start humping the f/o's leg. Letting Dawk go was just idiotic. Replacing two 35 year old Tackles with Pro Bowl caliber guys that are 27 is a good start. So far they get a B-.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 18, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 18, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Let's see what they do Saturday before we start humping the f/o's leg. Letting Dawk go was just idiotic. Replacing two 35 year old Tackles with Pro Bowl caliber guys that are 27 is a good start. So far they get a B-.

I hate to say it, but Dawkins had clearly lost a step and couldn't cover anyone.

I love the guy but his career was in steep decline and it was time to get younger.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mussa on April 18, 2009, 11:44:05 AM
its pretty damn hard to overlook the Dawkins thing and then no real attempt at acquiring a WR has also put a sour taste in my mouth. They have made some good moves, no doubt about it. I think if they can pull off some good moves next weekend and get some guys that look good, then I can get somewhat excited. When it comes down to it Andy Reid just makes me want to slaughter small children
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mussa on April 18, 2009, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 18, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 18, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Let's see what they do Saturday before we start humping the f/o's leg. Letting Dawk go was just idiotic. Replacing two 35 year old Tackles with Pro Bowl caliber guys that are 27 is a good start. So far they get a B-.

I hate to say it, but Dawkins had clearly lost a step and couldn't cover anyone.

I love the guy but his career was in steep decline and it was time to get younger.

you get one thing and only one thing straight mr. brian darth dawkins is still the man. he should be an eagle still. don't let the anger go. cherish the anger. release that anger onto banner/lurie/reid face. kill them. kill them dead. if you do that we will accept you into this internet message board. now go do it
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: MDS on April 18, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
phreak?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SunMo on April 18, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
(http://www.fredposner.com/uploaded_images/Mr-Wolf-756280.jpg)

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Feva on April 18, 2009, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 18, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
(http://www.fredposner.com/uploaded_images/Mr-Wolf-756280.jpg)

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.

Yep.. I thought the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: hbionic on April 18, 2009, 01:09:45 PM
I'm a bit appalled that your first thoughts would be to start sucking each others dicks.

Romes.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SunMo on April 18, 2009, 01:20:12 PM
i think our definition of 'appalled' is a bit different from yours
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: hbionic on April 18, 2009, 01:24:27 PM
Appalled. As in, "I was very appalled to hear that my girlfriend got her period this month". Appalled.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Eagaholic on April 18, 2009, 01:24:55 PM
Chuggies definition of appalled means - I'd like to watch please
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 18, 2009, 01:44:16 PM
my .02 on dawkins since i wasn't around when he signed with denver:

has he slowed down?  yes.  am i pissed he's gone?  yes.  i look at it like this.....seeing as the front office did not sign a long term replacement for him, they easily could have brought him back and signed jones at the same time.  now you've got some depth at safety, dawkins' leadership and the ability to reduce his role on the field which would probably allow him to be a little more rested and fresh at the end of the year. 

but i will say that on paper so far, the front office has done a pretty good job this year and has found some creative ways to fill some glaring holes on this team.  i hate seeing guys like tre and runyan go but they somehow managed to replace both of them with younger, talented players. 

the one thing that i'm still not happy about though is them letting buck go.  despite all the knee problems he had, dude kept coming back, kept fighting and over the last couple years has been rediculously productive whenever he's on the field.  and if reid had any sense what so ever, he would have used him a lot more during the regular season to give westbrook a break and then maybe, the running game would have been a little more productive in the playoffs. 

now if they can find a way to get boldin/edwards/ocho cinco, then i might be inclined to use the gold standard mantra minus the sarcasm. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
buck was an awesome story but not an awesome running back...he can and will be easily replaced if the eagles do the right thing and get a knowshon or shady
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on April 18, 2009, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
buck was an awesome story but not an awesome running back...he can and will be easily replaced if the eagles do the right thing and get a knowshon or shady

troof, I would love either of those guys.  The guy I would most like to see wear green, that won't ever happen is Rey Maualuga.  The defense could use a guy with that type of killer instinct. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 18, 2009, 01:50:27 PM
The guy I would most like to see wear green, that won't ever happen is Rey Maualuga.  The defense could use a guy with that type of killer instinct. 

X1million
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 18, 2009, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
buck was an awesome story but not an awesome running back...he can and will be easily replaced if the eagles do the right thing and get a knowshon or shady

oh, i know he can be replaced.  this is really more of a fan based rant rather than football based becasue as a guy who's had a couple of torn acl's, i can honestly say that i'm overly impressed with his ability and determination to keep coming back the way he did.  this will sound extremely corny and probably even very "es-ish", but i found him to be somewhat inspiring.  and this is a guy that when the eagles drafted him, i wasn't a big fan of at all.  he's a tough sob though and i will miss watching his 3-5 carries every week.  
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
no doubt...i love the guy too...probably my favorite eagle other than pimp...but i gotta be realistic and say they definitely can improve his position by a lot...and even tho i like him much better hes not a guy you have to keep like dawk (obviously)
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 18, 2009, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
no doubt...i love the guy too...probably my favorite eagle other than pimp...but i gotta be realistic and say they definitely can improve his position by a lot...and even tho i like him much better hes not a guy you have to keep like dawk (obviously)

agreedx10
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Eagaholic on April 18, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
I'm a definitely a Buck fan. Once he got his pop back the last couple of years he looked great and averaged about 5 YPC. I don't know that they will necessarily be able to replace his running ability although he did have other liabilities like his health and that he couldn't block worth shtein, which is big in their offense. 

I wish him well in Denver.  My favorite pic is here, he looks like an ork in ballet slippers

(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/09000d5d8029d65c_gallery_600.jpg)

Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 18, 2009, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 18, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
(http://www.fredposner.com/uploaded_images/Mr-Wolf-756280.jpg)

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.
why am i always the last to learn its not time yet..farg
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 18, 2009, 02:55:06 PM
because youre too busy suckling on wangs and not listening?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 18, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
RE: Dawkins. I'd have liked the team to re-sign him for another season or two, but I think he's the kind of guy they'll miss in the locker room more than they're going to miss him on the field. He can still play up in the box but Dawk was toast in coverage for the last few seasons and I have a feeling his career in Denver is going to greatly resemble Vincent in Buffalo or Taylor in Seattle.

RE: Buckhalter. I have really mixed feelings about this one. Buck looked great whenever he played but it was obvious the Eagles did not trust him with more than 70 or so carries per season. I have no idea why that is - maybe his injury history scared them off. I fully expect the Eagles to draft a RB early (Moreno or DBrown would be my hope) and maybe with more overall talent at RB they'll run the rock more? The one year they had the 3-headed monster going the Eagles were actually in the Top 10 in rushing attempts. With a monster OL, credible FB and another RB I hope they go back to a more balanced attack.

My two cents.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 18, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: MDS on April 18, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
phreak?

Regardless of the good moves of Peters and Andrews, the way the Dawkins thing was handled was piss poor. The off-season is not over and they still have the draft to screw up. You'd think that since they signed Andrews and traded for Peters keeps them from drafting 3-4 project OL, but we shall see.

Also, it should be noted that while I like the Peters and Andrews moves; both have question marks. Will Peters be motivated and will Andrews be healthy?

Thanks for waiting for me to tell you how to feel, Todd.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Magical_Retard on April 19, 2009, 01:03:38 AM
The only improvement they have made so far IMO is get younger at the tackle position with the potential that the new guys will be better.

So that brings the offense back to the level that it was at when they lost to the Cardinals. They need a #2 RB badly.

Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: rjs246 on April 19, 2009, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 19, 2009, 01:03:38 AM
So that brings the offense back to the level that it was at when they lost to the Cardinals. They need a #2 RB badly.

It's very possible that this is the season Westbrook hit the wall. He's oldish and he's been hurt a million times. They need a dude who can contribute IMMEDIATELY because I trust Westbrook to hold up about as much as I trust IGY's taste in movies.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2009, 11:21:24 AM
I really want Moreno, i'm not a fan of how upright he runs, but the guy would be a good fit in this offense
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Feva on April 19, 2009, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 19, 2009, 01:03:38 AM
The only improvement they have made so far IMO is get younger at the tackle position with the potential that the new guys will be better.

So that brings the offense back to the level that it was at when they lost to the Cardinals. They need a #2 RB badly.



Exactly.  They're younger along the O-line and that's well and good... but the way I see it, they've done a damn good job of replacing the holes they created by letting Tra, Runyan, Buck and Dawkins walk.  I like the Jones and Weaver signings which should provide stability at those positions at the very least.

Great, now we're back to the 9-7, 10-6 level the team was at last year.  What's next?  Where are the playmakers that are going to help this team to the 12-4 level it needs to be a legit SB contender?  When I see that, then I can give them props for a great offseason.


Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 19, 2009, 11:21:24 AM
I really want Moreno, i'm not a fan of how upright he runs, but the guy would be a good fit in this offense

Agreed.  He's one of those RB's who get every yard out of his runs, always falling forward and rarely does the 1st guy bring him down.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 19, 2009, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on April 19, 2009, 01:03:38 AM
The only improvement they have made so far IMO is get younger at the tackle position with the potential that the new guys will be better.

So that brings the offense back to the level that it was at when they lost to the Cardinals. They need a #2 RB badly.

I disagree. The OL really played poorly for a lot of last year and I think Peters/Andrews will be an upgrade at tackle. Getting Shawn Andrews back helps too. They also added a FB who can block, catch and run the ball a little. There's at least better depth at safety and for all we know Sean Jones could be an upgrade over Dawkins. As of right now I think this team is better than the one that lost the NFCCG and that's pre-draft.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
until andrews knee doesnt explode again and peters doesnt give up a million sacks again and both play better than tra and runyan the offensive line is certainly not better
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 19, 2009, 04:31:54 PM
Runyan and Tra were finished so replacing them was a must. The f/o couldn't have done a better job of replacing them. They signed the top OT on the market and traded for the top OT available in a trade. Whether they perform up to their capability is a different story but they were the two best options out there.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2009, 04:39:44 PM
right but we have no idea if they are better than tra and hairy back
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 19, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
That's irrelevant now, they were fa's and are well past their prime. There was option A: Re-signing 35 year old Tra to a 3 year deal, and re-signing 35 year old Runyan who's having surgery. Or option B: get two guys who are younger and sign them to long term deals. Maybe they're better, maybe they're not, but they needed replacement tackles and got the best that was available. I never thought Tra or Runyan were particulary good at sealing the edge on running plays. I know this is a pass happy offense and in pass protection they were both fine players.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 19, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
how good the offensive line is going to be is certainly not irrelevant
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 19, 2009, 05:28:25 PM
Well than you tell me how you would have handled the situation
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 19, 2009, 05:42:48 PM
IGY is just a ray of sunshine and basket o' puppies.

Can you believe how miserable he'd be if Peters were a white guy?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mikey418 on April 19, 2009, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
how good the offensive line is going to be is certainly not irrelevant

Do you know football or are you just talking out your arse again?  The line play goes a long way to determine who wins or loses.  A O-line that gives the QB time to make plays and opens holes for the RB to make plays is the team that wins is usually the team that wins.  The team that can't protect or run the ball usually loses...
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Magical_Retard on April 19, 2009, 08:03:20 PM
Umm they did not need to create two holes/needs.

Runyan and Thomas played hurt but still anchored a good offensive line...doing what it does most...pass block. Yeah they were not opening up huge running lanes but Buck seemed to always find positive yardage when he got his weekly 2 carries. Westbrook was hurt plus Reid did not call running plays like he always ignores it. Trying to paint the offensive line as a weakness is the FO myth. Yeah they are old and Runyan is coming off of surgery so it makes sense to get younger but it was not the BIGGEST weakness of offense.

They could have re signed Tra while signing Stacy to replace Runyan. You can still have 2 first round draft picks to maybe select two skill positions or trade for a WR. It seems more like they are intent on being set at the position for the next 4-6 seasons rather than loading up for this coming season. Which would be fine cept McNabb is 33 not 23.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 19, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
You'd have to replace Tra within the next season or two, they didn't 'create' two holes because both players were f/a's.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2009, 08:09:51 PM
I actually just sat through the entire Banner/Spadaro interview on PE.Com.  It's my way of doing penance for cheering for the Magic vs. the Sixers.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Rome on April 19, 2009, 08:17:37 PM
LOL - double punishment!

:-D
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 19, 2009, 08:24:40 PM
The Magic did not win that game, did they?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 19, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
You'd have to replace Tra within the next season or two, they didn't 'create' two holes because both players were f/a's.

true as that may be, trading for peters and not offering tra a 2 or 3 year deal falls right in line with this front office refusing to mortage the future on the present.  when this was a young team 7 years ago, i could buy into that philosophy.  but now, after years of coming close, i could give a damn about the next 5, 10 or even 20 years.  i want to see them win and i want to see them win now. 

which would you prefer:

the current situation with peters and andrews as bookend tackles. 

or

signing andrews, resigning tra and then trading those same draft picks they used on peters for boldin/edwards/ocho? 

moves like that just emphasize the writing that's been on the wall for the last couple of years and that is that the eagles organization is not interested in winning championships.  they are not interested in giving mcnabb the best possible tools to be successful.  they are only interested in putting a team on the field that will get into the playoffs more often than not and hope that they make a run ala the 2007 giants. 

and don't get me wrong, because i like the peters trade.  but that's only because they had already decided against bringing back tra so this was the next best thing. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 20, 2009, 06:22:43 AM
They could still get Boldin/Ocho/Edwards if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: phillymic2000 on April 20, 2009, 07:14:12 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2009, 06:22:43 AM
They could still get Boldin/Ocho/Edwards if they wanted to.

Clayton on ESPN Radio Saturday said the only reason the Browns have not traded edwards was because the Gints have not commited a #2 and a #5. Geesh if that is all it takes and Boldin is too pricey, pull the trigger fat boy.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 09:56:33 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2009, 06:22:43 AM
They could still get Boldin/Ocho/Edwards if they wanted to.

but you know they won't. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mikey418 on April 20, 2009, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 19, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
You'd have to replace Tra within the next season or two, they didn't 'create' two holes because both players were f/a's.

true as that may be, trading for peters and not offering tra a 2 or 3 year deal falls right in line with this front office refusing to mortage the future on the present.  when this was a young team 7 years ago, i could buy into that philosophy.  but now, after years of coming close, i could give a damn about the next 5, 10 or even 20 years.  i want to see them win and i want to see them win now. 

which would you prefer:

the current situation with peters and andrews as bookend tackles. 

or

signing andrews, resigning tra and then trading those same draft picks they used on peters for boldin/edwards/ocho? 

moves like that just emphasize the writing that's been on the wall for the last couple of years and that is that the eagles organization is not interested in winning championships.  they are not interested in giving mcnabb the best possible tools to be successful.  they are only interested in putting a team on the field that will get into the playoffs more often than not and hope that they make a run ala the 2007 giants. 

and don't get me wrong, because i like the peters trade.  but that's only because they had already decided against bringing back tra so this was the next best thing. 

Sarge, you don't think the team is young now?  Look at the roster - only McNabb & Westy are left from those  4 straight NFC Champ games.  The team had to get younger and has.  I personally like what FO have done.  They have rebuilt the team and stayed very competitive.  The team is young and good with the only age questions creeping in at RB and QB - which QB was addressed in their eyes with Kolb and RB will be in this years draft. 

Draft picks are hit and miss - and Peters is already a hit.  They have a top 10 QB, quality receivers, the best OLine on paper, a dangerous RB (when healthy).  Should mention that the defense is top 10 quality too...
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
If anyone has ESPN insider:

Rumors: Strong chance Boldin flies to Philly
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 20, 2009, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
If anyone has ESPN insider:

Rumors: Strong chance Boldin flies to Philly

lol
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 12:09:52 PM
gargano said emphatically today thay they are flat out not interested in boldin...he said if and when he becomes available they would have an interest in the original reggie brown
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 20, 2009, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
If anyone has ESPN insider:

Rumors: Strong chance Boldin flies to Philly

lol

Agreed, but if anyone has insider, can you post what the farg they are babbling about?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mussa on April 20, 2009, 12:13:12 PM
More rumors on ESPN Eagles still have strong interest in Boldin...
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
Agreed, but if anyone has insider, can you post what the farg they are babbling about?

Eagles still in the mix for Boldin?

Anquan Boldin | Cardinals | Interested: Jaguars? Titans? Ravens? Cowboys? Jets? Giants? Eagles?

After a trade on Friday involving one of their first round picks in exchange for a Pro Bowler, the Philadelphia Eagles are not necessarily out of the running to use the other first-rounder to return another Pro Bowler, according to the Phladelphia Inquirer.

In specific terms, this means that there's still a chance that the Eagles will be the team to acquire Anquan Boldin. Last week, the Arizona Cardinals began listening to offers for Boldin, and multiple sources have cited the Eagles as one of the likely destinations along with the New York Jets, New York Giants and Baltimore Ravens. Several other teams could also be interested, although they have not specifically confirmed this interest, and these include the Dallas Cowboys, Tennessee Titans and Jacksonville Jaguars.

In exchange for Peters, the Eagles gave up the No. 21 overall selection, as well as their fourth round pick. Hypothetically, if they traded away their remaining first round pick (No. 28 overall) and their third round pick - the supposed asking price for Boldin - this would leave them with just one pick in the draft's first four rounds, and they would not select another player until No. 141 overall. On the other hand, they do have four picks in the fifth round, two in the sixth and one in the seventh.

Regarding trading away his remaining first round pick, Eagles president Joe Banner told the Inquirer, "There are teams that start the year with only one first round draft pick and they've traded them. If we made another trade with a first round draft pick, we'd just be in the same position as them. I think we'll do whatever we evaluate to be the best move with any of the available players . . . Some of the evaluation is about the quality of what we have at certain positions."




lolol
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 20, 2009, 12:33:55 PM
translation: 0 chance
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
i think you're being generous by giving it that much. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SunMo on April 20, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
espn insider is about as useful as the condom in Todd's wallet
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 12:44:03 PM
especially since they give you basically the same info in a different article

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4080203
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: hbionic on April 20, 2009, 12:44:40 PM
Quote from: mussa on April 20, 2009, 12:13:12 PM
More rumors on ESPN Eagles still have strong interest in Boldin...

I think they should change that to, "Eagles fans still have strong interest in Boldin..."
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
sheldon brown wants out
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on April 20, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
sheldon brown wants out

I thought it was worthy of it's own thread so....
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 20, 2009, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 20, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
espn insider is about as useful as the condom in Todd's wallet

And it's even worse for those who actually pay for that slop. There's a poster on the EMB who reports the posts when people post the "insider" info. And he just doesn't report it, he writes a long ass whiny note about how its copyright infringement and how he pays for it.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 07:36:46 PM
espn insider is basically free with a subscription to espn the mag.  or maybe it's the other way around. 

either way, i had both and one point a couple years ago and found that the "insider info" was very anti-climactic.  especially when they'll usually publish the story for all to see within a few hours. 

so you're basically paying to read someone's speculation a few hours before everyone else. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Diomedes on April 20, 2009, 07:53:36 PM
 
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 07:36:46 PMso you're basically paying to read someone's speculation a few hours before everyone else.

meanwhile PFT is free
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 07:55:58 PM
espn insider is decent but not for the rumor mill section...thats a complete waste of time that tries to tease people into getting subscriptions to it
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 08:05:09 PM
i've never read a single article from espn insider that made me think "wow, that was a great read and there is absolutely no where else i could have gotten that information" after reading it. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on April 20, 2009, 09:19:52 PM
the nfl draft stuff is awesome....as are the scouting reports on all sports...theres tons of good stats...the actual articles is not why youd read insider
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 20, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
that's probably why i didn't dig it then.  i dont get over involved in the draft.  don't read scouting reports either. 

but even if i did, i'm sure i could find that info for free on other websites. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Eagaholic on April 23, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
more great off season stuff:

QuoteSource: Eagles Shopping Shawn Andrews
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:18 p.m. EDT

OK, now this is getting weird.

Less than two months after signing the brother of guard Shawn Andrews to a big-money free-agent deal and less than a week after trading for his college roommate at Arkansas (Jason Peters) and signing Peters to a big-money deal, the Philadelphia Eagles are dangling Shawn Andrews.

A league source tells us that the Eagles have contacted at least one team about moving the enigmatic Pro Bowl guard.

Shawn Andrews missed most if not all of training camp last year, due to clinical depression.  Then, he suffered a back injury in the second week of the season and never returned.

The thinking was that the arrival of Stacy Andrews and Jason Peters would have helped get Shawn Andrews rejuvenated.  Recently, it has been speculated that Shawn Andrews now isn't happy with his own contract, in light of the monster deals paid to his brother and his friend.

Andrews is signed through 2015 at base salaries of $750,000 (2009), $2 million (2010), $2.5 million (2011), $2.75 million (2012), $3.75 million (2013), $5.25 million (2014), and $6.25 million (2015).

AddThis

I know it's PFT and  "league source" and all but it wouldn't surprise. After all, he has earned it by being on IR for two of his what, 5 seasons? And sat out last year because he was a headcase. I think that merits a large raise. He also gets 'value added' for getting rushed to the hospital with a bizarre neck injury that turned out to be nothing serious at all but may have cost a playoff game against the Saints.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on April 23, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
This just in:  Barack Obama elected to be the next President of the United States!
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Eagaholic on April 23, 2009, 01:46:17 PM
who?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 23, 2009, 01:47:41 PM
Barry.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Feva on April 23, 2009, 01:52:48 PM
O.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: mussa on April 23, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Who would want the big kid? With his issues, are we going to get anything out of it. I'd rather him figure it out on the sideline than ship him for nothing and then have him figure it out elsewhere

christ
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
I'm even more impressed with this offseason after a very solid draft. In one offseason the Eagles have:

1. Replaced both starting tackles with young, talented players who could be even better at this point in their careers
2. Added depth at S and talent to the special teams via free agency (Jones, Baker) and the draft (Macho)
3. Signed the best free agent FB
4. Drafted the consensus #2 wideout and an excellent return man at 19
5. Drafted one of the top 3-5 RBs in the draft and a guy who fits their system perfectly in the late 2nd
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round
7. They're already loaded with draft picks for 2010

This is all just on paper and they need to gel and show it on the field, but I don't see any way this offseason is less than an A.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: reese125 on April 27, 2009, 03:19:01 PM
no knock on the kid, but I wouldnt declare "steal" of anyone that didnt play all of last season in college--especially now since he might still need surgery on his ACL, will be most likely be put on legit IR for his first year

but I agree the Eagles moves have been surprising on paper so far
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round

Please let this be a typo.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: reese125 on April 27, 2009, 03:22:39 PM
Ill give him the benefit of the doubt and attribute that to the d and e being very close together
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: BigEd76 on April 27, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
or he meant "stealed"

and remember Ikegwuonu was considered a steal this time last year (yes I know the injury situations are slightly different)
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round

Please let this be a typo.

It's a typo. I'm actually a copyeditor.  :-D
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: General_Failure on April 27, 2009, 03:34:29 PM
I assumed you meant stol'd.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2009, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round

Please let this be a typo.

It's a typo. I'm actually a copyeditor.  :-D

Maybe you can help our resident aspiring journalist, MDS.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SunMo on April 27, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
ingram said on the radio that he's ready to roll
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2009, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round

Please let this be a typo.

It's a typo. I'm actually a copyeditor.  :-D

Maybe you can help our resident aspiring journalist, MDS.

Who's that? I used to work for a healthcare trade magazine out in the suburbs and now I'm a copywriter for an architecture firm in the city. If someone here is really looking to get into journalism I'd be happy to try to help a fellow Eagles fan.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Sgt PSN on April 27, 2009, 04:12:04 PM
mds doesn't really want to be a journalist, just a sports reporter. 
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2009, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 27, 2009, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 27, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kenzinger on April 27, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
6. Absolutely stold Cornelius Ingram in the 5th round

Please let this be a typo.

It's a typo. I'm actually a copyeditor.  :-D

Maybe you can help our resident aspiring journalist, MDS.

Who's that? I used to work for a healthcare trade magazine out in the suburbs and now I'm a copywriter for an architecture firm in the city. If someone here is really looking to get into journalism I'd be happy to try to help a fellow Eagles fan.

MDS...he's a soon to be journo who posts here. We all break his balls about his blog posts about Temple. He's a good dude.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: hunt on April 27, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
if there's one thing the media needs, it's more jews.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on May 02, 2009, 07:32:44 AM
pretty big news here...especially as far as mini camps go




http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/20090502_Eagles_-_Shawn_Andrews__not_brother_Stacy_gets_look_at_tackle_for_Eagles.html

THE JERSEY of the Eagles' right tackle this season probably will feature "ANDREWS" written across a wide pair of shoulders.
But it might not be the Andrews we expected.

Coach Andy Reid made it clear yesterday that Shawn Andrews is not just a minicamp fill-in for his brother, Stacy, the right tackle the Birds signed in free agency.

"I'm going to give Shawn an opportunity at the right tackle spot," Reid said after the first workout for the 2009 season. "I know Stacy can go inside and compete with Nick [Cole, at right guard]."
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Diomedes on May 02, 2009, 07:36:55 AM
this guy Reid really ticks me off
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Feva on May 02, 2009, 08:16:02 AM
Stacy's still getting his knee together.  It's nothing.

McGlynn filled in for Herremans at LG too.  He's still recovering from a knee scope.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on May 02, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
pretty sure the head coach didnt go on record saying he was giving mike mcglynn a shot at the starting anything much less moving him out to right tackle...unless you think andy is straight lying here that and this are nowhere near the same thing

Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Rome on May 02, 2009, 09:37:29 AM
Is anyone else consumed with blinding rage whenever Reid uses the term "compete"?

Jesus Christ he really needs to spontaneously combust.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Feva on May 02, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 02, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
pretty sure the head coach didnt go on record saying he was giving mike mcglynn a shot at the starting anything much less moving him out to right tackle...unless you think andy is straight lying here that and this are nowhere near the same thing



I get that... but in the end, as always, the money might have something to say about that... in 2 ways.

First, they caked Stacy off pretty good to come and play RT.  You gotta think they'll at least give him a shot there once he's healthy.  Second, with Shawn maybe not happy with his deal, they'll either have to bump him up or they'd be practically inviting a contract dispute since tackles generally make a lot more than guards.


Reid may be serious about the movet... but we'll see once Stacy gets out there.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on May 02, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
If the plan all along was to move Shawn to RT, why sign Stacey in the first place. Cole did fine at RG. I think Reid's just experimenting here considering he doesn't have Stacey yet. If anything, they should try Cole out at LG to 'compete' with Herremans.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Eagaholic on May 02, 2009, 10:59:57 AM
I think Stacy is listed as 6' 7", if I I had a choice I'd rather not have to throw around him at the guard position.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: Rome on May 02, 2009, 11:05:14 AM
Reid's placating the big idiot's infantile mind.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 02, 2009, 11:30:48 AM
Shawn probably just needs to know he can do what his big brother can do.  Inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on May 02, 2009, 12:25:57 PM
It's a sibling rivalry for their parents attention. Whoever lives the longest wins!
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on May 02, 2009, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on May 02, 2009, 10:59:57 AM
I think Stacy is listed as 6' 7", if I I had a choice I'd rather not have to throw around him at the guard position.

completely agree...its why i never thought and dont think herremans should be there...his center of gravity is way to high and he cant bull rush at all cause he is never low enough...and he gets stood up a lot bt DT's
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: BigEd76 on May 02, 2009, 02:08:31 PM
Shawn says he likes the RT spot better because they get paid more than guards.  yay contracts...
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: BobbyT on May 02, 2009, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 02, 2009, 02:08:31 PM
Shawn says he likes the RT spot better because they get paid more than guards.  yay contracts...

CONSPIRACY- all rigged with the brother to get more $

Humpty Dumpty was pushed - he didn't fall

Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 03, 2009, 12:50:18 AM
I read on the EMB that Spads said on Eagles Live that Shawn Andrews pulled aside the reporter (Les Bowe was the chode, I think) who speculated that he was not happy with his contract and told him to not make stuff up about him again.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 03, 2009, 06:53:39 AM
Which means Les will probably keep doing it.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: General_Failure on May 03, 2009, 09:00:04 AM
Which means next time Les will end up between two large slices of bread, speared by a giant toothpick with an olive on it.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on May 03, 2009, 09:46:21 AM
with gravy on top
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: MDS on May 03, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
sounds like the DN could use a good honest sports reporter...
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: General_Failure on May 03, 2009, 10:29:58 PM
Honesty doesn't sell papers. Bird cages and recently declawed cats sell newspapers.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyGirl on May 03, 2009, 11:19:57 PM
Les Bowen knows hockey. He should have stayed on that beat.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: QB Eagles on May 03, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
Bowen's brand is so damaged that we are all unquestionably believing an anonymous EMB poster quoting Spadaro over him. Think about that for a second.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: ice grillin you on May 04, 2009, 07:58:27 AM
ive come around a lot on bowen...i used to be like pg and think he should have stayed with the flyers....but now hes just as good as he was when he did the flyers beat...his takes on football are really good
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: BigEd76 on May 04, 2009, 01:15:23 PM
did anyone mention Zordich was back in town as an assistant?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on May 04, 2009, 01:18:40 PM
he still sporting the mullet?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to the FO - it's been a great offseason
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 04, 2009, 01:22:52 PM
Thats MDS' boy...he'll be happy to know this news.