new at Forman Mills. ha
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He's signing autographs at the Forman Mills on Grant and the Blvd. tonight between 7-8:30. I'd go if ithere was a guarantee that his fiancee would be there.
Nothing that guy does can possibly make him look masculine but I don't give a shtein if he keeps winning.
"A fighter fights"
Wow. That's one creative marketing team.
lame
That's a wack ass T-shirt.
They had the news stations at Foreman Mills to do the loathsome "man on the street" interviews. I hate when the local news does these things because it always has the awkward Eagles cheers and the know-nothing broadcasters. But the coverage on CSN made me laugh. They showed th crowd and then a walrus type lady missing a tooth saying something about "watch out McNabb". Idiot.
According to this assclown, McNabb is as good as gone. (http://www.benmaller.com/nfl_rumors_notes)
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
QuoteWould Eagles coach Andy Reid, a pal of Vikings coach Brad Childress, who was Donovan McNabb's offensive coordinator in Philadelphia, then be willing to trade McNabb, 30, to the Vikings, who need a blockbuster playmaker to retain their season-ticket base? Or would the Vikings try to sign the unrestricted free agent Jeff Garcia, 36, who runs the same West Coast offense as Childress, allowing Tarvaris Jackson more time to develop?
You know, I'm all for freedom of speech, but certain people should just be kidnapped and taken to the nearest commercial incinerator for no other reason than for being stupid beyond all comprehension.
They showed th crowd and then a walrus type lady missing a tooth saying something about "watch out McNabb
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Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 10, 2007, 09:04:26 AMYou know, I'm all for freedom of speech, but certain people should just be kidnapped and taken to the nearest commercial incinerator for no other reason than for being stupid beyond all comprehension.
I can get on board with that plan so long as you're the first to burn.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 10, 2007, 09:05:51 AM
I can get on board with that plan so long as you're the first to burn.
What's your problem, icehole?
lol
Hey, let the guy enjoy his time in the spot light - probably won't come again.
ha... I almost forgot to post something about Jeff Garcia being the current "Gary Barbera car dealership" guy in their ads. Garcia has been on their full page ad in the back of the metro the past few weeks. I havnt been able to find a photo online yet....
even better, just found the video. Not as good as Eastern motors.... http://www.ehgmedia.com/barb/gbtv.wmv
Of that 30 second commercial... about 26 seconds of it is pure garbage.
Quote from: MURP on January 10, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
even better, just found the video. Not as good as Eastern motors.... http://www.ehgmedia.com/barb/gbtv.wmv
Someone posted it on the YouTube thread a few days ago, actually.
I wish I could make up stuff and get paid for it. Does that even constitute a rumor? Rumors usually have a shred of truth to them. The McNabb to the Vikings blurb is a complete fabrication.
I have a shirt press and would love to design my own Garthia shirt. Anyone got any ideas. If someone has a really great one I'll print 'em up and send 'em out no cost.
Quote from: MURP on January 10, 2007, 10:21:31 AM
ha... I almost forgot to post something about Jeff Garcia being the current "Gary Barbera car dealership" guy in their ads. Garcia has been on their full page ad in the back of the metro the past few weeks. I havnt been able to find a photo online yet....
I noticed that when I was back home for Christmas. Gary Barbera even had Garcia on signs along the Schuylkill Expressway -- not billboards, but the adopt-a-highway signs!
Given the other scrubs on the Eagles who pimp for Gary Barbera, I'm guessing they got him signed up for real cheap at the beginning of the season and are now exploiting the hell out of their deal with him.
I dont know how long this has been in effect, but now the Eagles Extra Points™ Credit Card's first gift reward is an autographed Jeff Garcia mini helmet.
ha.
I signed up for a card back in 2004 and got the litograph signed by Reid, with Dawk/Trot/Michael Lewis, Donovan, and Westy all on it.
i got almost 35,000 pts on mine
there isnt anything that really peaks my interest in the rewards catalog except the authentic jersey but because i cant stand their current jerseys i dont want that
I got pregame sideline passes this season with mine. For the Titans game. I don't think I'll do that one again.
Maybe I'll save up for a year of preferred parking...
Oh, and FWIW...Garcia will be at Foreman Mills in Turnersville tonight (Thursday). I think it's from 7:00 to 8:30.
i know this sounds TATERish, but he's made some public appearances this week, when they've already had a short week to prepare anyway, is it really necessary to be out signing autographs right now?
if its ok with andy it should be ok with you
i'll wait for Joe Banner to inform me of how i should feel, thank you.
Rumor has it that Garcia will not be with EAGLES next season. May wind up in TAMPA BAY
I have a confirmed rumor that you are an assmonkey.
Yeah, I heard that too Die-Hard.
So...how 'bout those Garcia T-shirts. 0-1 with them....
Hey they said "a fighter fights"... they didn't say anything about a fighter winning.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 14, 2007, 01:56:08 PMel
Hey they said "a fighter fights"... they didn't say anything about a fighter winning
Someone shoudl tell Reid that.
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Adopt a highway signs are appropriate for an adopt a team QB. Discarded refuse picked up by discarded refuse.
Nope.
Quote from: Die-Hard on January 14, 2007, 12:13:30 PM
I have a confirmed rumor that you are an assmonkey.
I GUESS ALL THE SH?? I HEARD ABOUT THE PHILLY FANS IS TRUE
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I GUESS ALL THE SH?? I HEARD ABOUT THE PHILLY FANS IS TRUE
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i love how dude didn't want to turn and face the guy, he settled for the backhand fist pound, that's quality
Quote from: SunMo on January 29, 2007, 02:21:54 PM
i love how dude didn't want to turn and face the guy, he settled for the backhand fist pound, that's quality
nm
Quote from: SunMo on January 29, 2007, 02:21:54 PM
i love how dude didn't want to turn and face the guy, he settled for the backhand fist pound, that's quality
I want to know what he did to start that. Everyone is either reaching to pound him or smiling in approval.
My sources tell me that he compard McNabb to Lindros.
Minnesota may no longer be an option. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=rotowire-effarciainnesotaoong&prov=rotowire&type=lgns)
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 18, 2007, 04:27:30 PM
Minnesota may no longer be an option. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=rotowire-effarciainnesotaoong&prov=rotowire&type=lgns)
According to NFL radio this week it sounds like it will be between Philly and Tampa Bay.
Tampon Gay? Seriously. Well if Garcia is indeed honest about put winning over a starting job, it seems like he's gonna be back. And thus, a media created QB controversy will commence.
I don't know how serious the Eagles would be in bringing him back though. They may end up keeping Detmer on the roster to hold for Akers which means that the 3rd qb spot would be between Feeley and Garcia.....unless the Eagles opt to keep 4 qb's on the roster, which I doubt. The Eagles may also be content to start the season with Feeley if need be, should McNabb not be ready to go on opening day.
So either the Eagles get someone who can actually hold the ball on FG/PAT (from within the ranks) for Akers or Garcia may end up being the odd man out.
did someone just post a "story" from rotowire.com
Rotowire took it from a blog on the St. Paul Pioneer Press website, which took it from John Clayton on ESPN.com...
is that a yes?
They had a phone interview with Garcia on Mikey & Mikey this morning. He sounded like he really wants to be an Eagle next season. He gave several reasons why ne wants to stay in Philly and seemed much more sincere than the normal blah, blah, blah, I want to stay with this team that you normally hear.
He said niether he nor his agent have had any contact with the Eagles. He's a little concerned.
So, all things considered, I just gave up. I am no longer waiting for the next Tuesday/Wednesday PR about the Garcia/Stallworth signings.
Chicago Tribune interview with Jerry Angelo:
QuoteOn signing free-agent QB Jeff Garcia:
"I don't really see the win in that, I just see that as running up and down the starting line. I'm not one to mistake activity for achievement. I have a lot of respect for Garcia and what he did, but we like Brian Griese."
its probably here or Tampa
i think its pretty much agreed upon that no one gives a shtein whether that third degree burn scarred male lovechild of fergie and bart simpson resigns or not
i cant wait till people stop talking about him
then you should probably stay out of the thread that has his name on it
i was hoping it was gonna be more posts about philly fans beating people up
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 23, 2007, 01:47:03 PM
i was hoping it was gonna be more posts about philly fans beating people up
That's an unfair stereotype & very far from reality. We are all caring nurterers.
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WTF? :-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 23, 2007, 03:09:55 PM
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WTF? :-D
Yeah, I know it's gay. I was found it on some other message board & was experimenting with changing my avatar. I've been just too lazy to change it to something else, plus I don't have a clear enough picture of you to put there.
if jeffy resigns here, it could be fun. Andy and the FO will say 1000 times that Donovan is the starter. Even Jeff will. But then WIP and the writers will keep trying to make this into a story, some player, perhaps Runyan, will say something that could possibly be spun into thinking that the players would rather have Garcia than McNabb. Then the media will hammer home this annoying topic to endless porportions to Reid and the players, in which case Andy will finally snap and decapatate Howard Eskin. This, in the end, will make this entire tireless process worth it.
Here is were we find out exactly how much faith Reid has in Feeley, because you can't go into training camp guaranteeing that Dmac will be ready.
That would be a qb controversy, Garcia and Feeley.
And don't say it couldn't happen. Who would have thought Garcia would have taken us to the playoffs last year?
It couldn't happen!!
Quote from: Diomedes on February 23, 2007, 09:14:49 PM
It couldn't happen!!
Ahhhhh! Yeah! Like it could never happen that the Eagles would be 2006 NFC East Champions!! I can't count high enough to know how many times I heard that! But then again, those double digits give me problems.
If this this town/media/fans start arguing about who the backup QB should be and create some sort of controversey about it then I'd say that we've reached levels of stupidity that were previously unfathomable.
banner told garcia that if he hits the open market his days with the eagles are over...yet banner has not made an offer to garcia
Jeff Garcia to Denver?
QuoteWith it looking more likely that Jeff Garcia will not return to the Eagles next season, two league sources said tonight that the Denver Broncos could pursue the veteran quarterback's services when the free-agent market opens Friday.
Steve Baker, the agent for Garcia, said Friday that if the two sides had not struck a deal before the free-agent period opened that the Eagles did not expect to re-sign his client. With veteran Jake Plummer expected to be released by the Broncos, they are in the market for a backup to second-year quarterback Jay Cutler, who took over as the starter during the final five games of his rookie season.
Garcia, who performed brilliantly after taking over for the injured Donovan McNabb during the 2006 season, had hoped to either rejoin the Eagles as McNabb's backup or go somewhere else and start for a team that is considered a postseason contender. If, as expected, the Eagles decide against bringing back Garcia, A.J. Feeley will be elevated to the backup role after spending last season as the third quarterback.
Baker said Friday that Garcia will have plenty of options to sign with other teams as either a starter or a backup once the free-agent market opens. It just doesn't appear likely any more that the Eagles are going to be one of those options.
Feeley given contract extension; Garcia unlikely to be re-signed (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65263)
QuoteFeeley Signs Contract Extension
February 25, 2007
By DAVE SPADARO
A.J. Feeley has signed a three-year contract extension through the 2010 season, the Eagles have announced. Feeley, reaquired prior to the 2006 regular season, will apparently settle into the position of the No. 2 quarterback for this team in 2007.
Jeff Garcia will likely enter free agency as an unrestricted free agent and the Eagles will likely look to the draft for a third quarterback.
Feeley saw his most extensive action in 2006 in the regular season finale when he completed 22 of 33 passes for 321 yards and three touchdowns in the victory over Atlanta.
Entering the final year of a two-year contract he signed after his release from the Chargers last summer, Feeley wanted some clarity on his situation with the Eagles.
He got it.
"A.J. Feeley has been very productive as a starting quarterback in Philadelphia," said general manager Tom Heckert. "He's won some games at crucial times for this franchise and he gives us a great amount of confidence as a back-up to Donovan McNabb. A.J.'s proven to be very comfortable in this offensive scheme and we look forward to having him in the fold for the next several years."
never saw it coming
Stunning.
MORE MONEY FOR STALLWORTH!
this pretty much means garcia is gone.
Quote from: mussa on February 25, 2007, 01:56:51 PM
this pretty much means garcia is gone.
You can read! Congrats!
He was great when he stepped in this season. That said, he's 36, and losing him is no huge loss.
Thanks Jeff for the great season. See ya.....
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 25, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
MORE MONEY FOR STALLWORTH!
Exactly.
Where the farg was A.J. Feeley gonna go that we had to extend him now?
He was a free agent after this upcoming season and maybe they extended him and moved money around to free up more cap room.
I like it. I think Garcia shot his wad. Feeley looks good everytime he comes into a game, and with McNabb having been hurt the last two seasons and coming off knee surgery, the backup qb is a very important position for this team.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 24, 2007, 01:23:14 PM
If this this town/media/fans start arguing about who the backup QB should be and create some sort of controversy about it then I'd say that we've reached levels of stupidity that were previously unfathomable.
If McNabb can't start the season it wouldn't be a controversy about the backup.
But still, McNabb has played one full season in the past three. Anyone who can't see how important the backup position is to this team better look harder at the depth chart. Every year that he's been here, I've commented on how I want Feeley as the #2, and every year I'm ridiculed for wanting to debate the backup position. Well, the last two years it's been one of the most important positions on this team, even it it sounds umfathomably stupid.
Feeley said on his conference call that he was promised the #2 spot in 2007 when he signed last summer. Eskin got one right for once....
I'll miss seeing Carmela on Monday Night Live
Angelo's take on Monday = barf
dont listen to it crum
simple
I haven't listened to WIP in years. I'm just saying, whatever that moron says, will be crap.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 25, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
Feeley said on his conference call that he was promised the #2 spot in 2007 when he signed last summer. Eskin got one right for once....
I like it, now if they can get McNabb to re-structure and re-sign Stallworth. Damn this is some good shtein im smokin >:D
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 25, 2007, 01:10:01 PM
Feeley given contract extension; Garcia unlikely to be re-signed (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=65263)
Quote
"A.J. Feeley has been very productive as a starting quarterback in Philadelphia," said general manager Tom Heckert. "He's won some games at crucial times for this franchise and he gives us a great amount of confidence as a back-up to Donovan McNabb. A.J.'s proven to be very comfortable in this offensive scheme and we look forward to having him in the fold for the next several years."
It doesn't make a differencw to me if the #2 is Feeley or Garcia but doesn't this statement seem a little odd to anyone but me? Couldn't exactly the same statement have been made about Garcia?
Note to Jeffy, when you sign with Denver, make sure you get a promise to be the #2 the next year also. Because we all know that all NFL teams always keep thier promises.
Here's Mike Fierro's take on it: http://www.nj.com/columns/expresstimes/fierro/index.ssf?
The thing is, Garcia and his agent wouldn't give the Eagles the same committment that they asked them for, so the Eagles gave Feeley 7.2M, with a 2M SB, according to Adam Schefter on NFL.com. The pros for Feeley is that he's younger, got a stronger arm at this point in his career, and seems to play well within the Eagles' system. I discount his Miami experience, simply because Dave Wannstadt never wanted him and yo-yoed him and Jay Fiedler in and out of the lineup. When they played the Jets' scrubs last year, Garcia couldn't do anything against them, yet Feeley came in with no practice time and led the team on 3 scoring drives. In 2002, when he was still on the Eagles practice squad, the Bears had wanted to sign him on to their 53 man squad--but he refused to go, saying he was comfortable in the Eagles system.
IMHO, Garcia wrote his own ticket out of town when he went on national TV and said it was his intention to test the FA waters before he and the team ever got around to discussing any kind of extension--then he multiplied that by saying in another interview "they won't be able to take advantage of me this year like they did last year". So I don't know how they took advantage of him. That mystified me--there were only two teams that offered him a contract in '06--the Eagles and the Texans. I think he got caught up in his own hype machine when he believed all of the media reports that said several teams might be interested in him as a starter--well, Minny, Chicago, Tampa Bay--3 places that he was rumored to go to--have now said they're not interested. But I do know that it takes two to tango--if they had wanted a deal done with the Eagles, Baker, who called the Eagles "tough to negotiate with, but they're fair and honest with you", could have made an offer and the Eagles could have negotiated with them.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on February 26, 2007, 02:45:39 AM
"tough to negotiate with, but they're fair and honest with you"
translation:
"They make their offer based on their advanced mathematical algorithm, and if you don't like it, Joe Banner belittles you verbally until you either take the offer or cut off negotiations."
They make their offer based on their advanced mathematical algorithm, and if you don't like it, Joe Banner belittles you verbally until you either take the offer or cut off negotiations
yup
more translation:
"fair" = The offer is on the low side of a remotely-acceptable range of the player's worth.
"honest" = They give the offer in black and white and make it quite clear that it's a take it or leave it scenario.
Does anyone really think they were going to re-sign Garcia after the way he played down the stretch last year?
I mean, come on. 2007 was Feeley's gig all along because he's a nice, safe, unthreatening security blanky for Donovan.
I didn't think they would re-sign him, nor did I want them to.
If he were 31 or 32, maybe.
However, my analysis of the "negotiating" tactics of the FO still stands.
Does anyone really think they were going to re-sign Garcia after the way he played down the stretch last year?
absolutely not...they clearly didnt even make an offer to him because they didnt want garcias shadow cast over donovan...pretty sure donovan told the team he didnt want garcia back as well
i could care less about garcia resigning....he can burn in hell for all i care...i just dont like the way the team conducts business
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:00:40 AM
i could care less about garcia resigning....he can burn in hell for all i care...i just dont like the way the team conducts business
well, it's hard to argue with all those superbowls
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on February 25, 2007, 11:11:03 PM
now if they can get McNabb to re-structure and re-sign Stallworth. Damn this is some good shtein im smokin >:D
we must get our smoke from the same place.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:00:40 AM
Does anyone really think they were going to re-sign Garcia after the way he played down the stretch last year?
absolutely not...they clearly didnt even make an offer to him because they didnt want garcias shadow cast over donovan...pretty sure donovan told the team he didnt want garcia back as well
i could care less about garcia resigning....he can burn in hell for all i care...i just dont like the way the team conducts business
Adam Shefter also reported that Garcia wanted to stay in the Philly area because he could get "married" to his longtime "partner" in NJ!
As expected, WIP was in a rage this morning. "5000 PEOPLE SHOW UP AT FRANKLIN MILLS AND THE EAGLES DON'T MAKE AN OFFER?!?!?!11111"
Why cant Al Qaida attack Wip headquarters :evil
With AJ signing a new contract, it would be cool if Garcia was brought back. Then we could have controversies at the #1, 2 and 3 QB positions
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 26, 2007, 11:30:09 AM
Why cant Al Qaida attack Wip headquarters :evil
Because WIP is the media poster child of our decadent western culture :puke :puke
WIP = Al Jazeera
Sure Feeley can, on paper, do it all, blah blah. But Garcia, dishrag arm and all, showed something last year that this team sorely lacked - situational leadership.
And there are enough cracks in the "well-oiled-efficient-machine" facade to render their coldly calculated personnel manipulations and detached press positionings meaningless. If talent acquisition and game-day management were practiced better, maybe, but right now, no sale.
It comes down to how likely it is that McNabb will be ready-to-go come training camp. If he stumbles into the season I sure hope there's someone on this team who can not only play, but also fire-them up when the game-moment calls for it. One thing seems certain - we'll now only have one hope instead of two.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:00:40 AM
Does anyone really think they were going to re-sign Garcia after the way he played down the stretch last year?
absolutely not...they clearly didnt even make an offer to him because they didnt want garcias shadow cast over donovan...pretty sure donovan told the team he didnt want garcia back as well
Exactly who is it clear to about your reasoning as to why they didn't make Garcia an offer? The practical, realistic people might think the Eagles feel that Garcia is too old, shot his wad and wouldn't be worth the money that other teams would offer. And your
" pretty sure donovan told the team he didnt want garcia back as well"?? Were do you dream this shtein up? You the team gives a shtein what he thinks after they went with him and signed TO?
mcnabb has shown how petty he can be and imo he didnt like the fact that in two months garcia became a hero in a city that mcnabb hasnt been able to warm up to in eight years (not that mcnabb has ever tried)...its clear that had garcia come back it would have gotten ugly...the first time mcnabb made a mistake or had a bad game the calls for garcia would have been overwhelming...but dont get me wrong i think thats a valid reason for not having him back..he isnt a good enough player where you would keep him and be willing to put up with the qb controversy that he would bring...
the fact that the eagles literally didnt even make an offer to garcia proves all this imo
It's Hockey Tradeline time, i came across this on TSN
QuoteThe Canadian Press
2/26/2007 11:12:31 PM
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Former CFL star Jeff Garcia is disappointed he never got a contract offer from the Philadelphia Eagles after leading them to five straight wins and a playoff victory following Donovan McNabb's season-ending knee injury.
"I was surprised I wasn't offered a contract. There was never anything to negotiate over," Garcia said Monday in an interview with Comcast SportsNet. "We never know what it would've amounted to. It wasn't about the money. It was about being in a great situation."
The Eagles agreed to a three-year contract extension with backup quarterback A.J. Feeley on Sunday, eliminating the chance Garcia would return to Philadelphia. Garcia, who turned 37 on Saturday, will become a free agent Friday.
"We just wanted to have a reasonable opportunity to be respected, to be appreciated for what took place last year," Garcia said. "Are there other reasons why I wasn't offered a contract? We'll never know."
Related Info
Eagles sign QB Feeley to three-year deal
A three-time Pro Bowl quarterback in San Francisco, Garcia revived his career in Philadelphia. He completed 61.7 per cent of his passes for 1,309 yards, 10 touchdowns and two interceptions.
The Eagles were 5-5 and seemingly out of the playoff picture when McNabb tore a knee ligament on Nov. 19. But with Garcia leading the way, they captured their fifth NFC East title in six years and advanced to the second round of the playoffs.
Garcia played under a one-year contract after miserable one-year stints in Cleveland and Detroit. His hard-nosed, gritty style quickly made him a fan favourite in Philadelphia
Tampa Bay has a 1PM press conference. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 27, 2007, 06:29:47 AM
mcnabb has shown how petty he can be and imo he didnt like the fact that in two months garcia became a hero in a city that mcnabb hasnt been able to warm up to in eight years (not that mcnabb has ever tried)...its clear that had garcia come back it would have gotten ugly...the first time mcnabb made a mistake or had a bad game the calls for garcia would have been overwhelming...but dont get me wrong i think thats a valid reason for not having him back..he isnt a good enough player where you would keep him and be willing to put up with the qb controversy that he would bring...
the fact that the eagles literally didnt even make an offer to garcia proves all this imo
im sure the eagles didnt make the offer to avoid any controversy but also because they will not pay a backup the kind of money garcia deserves. i doubt mcnabb cares if he comes back or not.....cause he knows he is the starter no matter what.
its more the money then what mcnabb might or might not feel.
Supposedly Garcia got the same deal Simms did....2 yrs, $10M+ w/incentives
SEASON OVER
...and minutes later, Tampa Bay traded for Plummer, so they now have 5 QBs :-D
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 27, 2007, 08:47:54 AM
It's Hockey Tradeline time, i came across this on TSN
QuoteThe Canadian Press
2/26/2007 11:12:31 PM
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Former CFL star Jeff Garcia is disappointed he never got a contract offer from the Philadelphia Eagles after leading them to five straight wins and a playoff victory following Donovan McNabb's season-ending knee injury.
"I was surprised I wasn't offered a contract. There was never anything to negotiate over," Garcia said Monday in an interview with Comcast SportsNet. "We never know what it would've amounted to. It wasn't about the money. It was about being in a great situation."
The Eagles agreed to a three-year contract extension with backup quarterback A.J. Feeley on Sunday, eliminating the chance Garcia would return to Philadelphia. Garcia, who turned 37 on Saturday, will become a free agent Friday.
"We just wanted to have a reasonable opportunity to be respected, to be appreciated for what took place last year," Garcia said. "Are there other reasons why I wasn't offered a contract? We'll never know."
Related Info
Eagles sign QB Feeley to three-year deal
A three-time Pro Bowl quarterback in San Francisco, Garcia revived his career in Philadelphia. He completed 61.7 per cent of his passes for 1,309 yards, 10 touchdowns and two interceptions.
The Eagles were 5-5 and seemingly out of the playoff picture when McNabb tore a knee ligament on Nov. 19. But with Garcia leading the way, they captured their fifth NFC East title in six years and advanced to the second round of the playoffs.
Garcia played under a one-year contract after miserable one-year stints in Cleveland and Detroit. His hard-nosed, gritty style quickly made him a fan favourite in Philadelphia
If I'm remembering right, per Heckert, they told the Garcia camp to make a proposal before free agency. Garcia instead waited for the Eagles to make a move, wanting to check out FA first. The FO said screw it and just locked up Feeley instead. I think Feeley was a FA too and they didn't want to risk loosing both or else having to pay alot more than they would with a pre-FA deal.
I think Feeley was a FA too
NO
Well, shoots that theory to hell
iirc, it was a two year deal when Feeley signed, so he wasn't a FA.
Quote from: Eagaholic on March 03, 2007, 01:39:08 PM
If I'm remembering right, per Heckert, they told the Garcia camp to make a proposal before free agency. Garcia instead waited for the Eagles to make a move, wanting to check out FA first. The FO said screw it and just locked up Feeley instead. I think Feeley was a FA too and they didn't want to risk loosing both or else having to pay alot more than they would with a pre-FA deal.
I was in favor of the Eagles letting Garcia go. No worries about him not coming back. BUT, if the eagles told him to make an offer, that's kinda slimy negotiation rules. The employer should make the first move, and it was apparent (again, if true) that the Eagles either wanted him checp or not at all. By putting the first play in Garcia's hands, they basically guarenteed to get him cheap if he were to stay.
Not to say I wouldn't (and haven't) have done the same thing, but that surprises me a little.
It's like they almost had to tell him to make a proposal though. Dude went out and said he felt that he was taken advantage of by playing for what he played for last year. Which is hilarious considering he looked like death warmed over in Cleveland and Detroit.
Then the guy has the balls to ask the Raiders to not draft a QB. Listen up, Garcia...you're 37 years old. Telling a franchise to not draft a QB is ridiculous. What is funny is that he then signs with Tampa Bay who already has Chris Simms and then trades for Plummer.
Even though there are rumors that the Bucs will now trade Plummers rights to Oakland. And then we have the fact that Plummer is supposedly retiring. Either way Garcia has to fight for a job again with someone else. He'll probably win but we'll see exactly how much he has left.
Going with Feeley was the right move, IMO.
Okay--I don't see it posted on here, so you guys can now debate this from Joe Banner:
http://www.nbc10.com/news/11159966/detail.html
Eagles President Joe Banner spoke with NBC 10 Friday night about why Garcia would not be back with the team.
"Jeff was anxious to explore free agency, as he said many times in many interviews, including going on Jay Leno and saying it. So, that's what he wanted to do," Banner said. "Whatever version of the story may be out there now, he was pretty clear and pretty public about that, and he's getting the chance to do that now.
"That was really the key factor, and I don't fault them because I would have done the exact same thing in his shoes, but that was kind of a decision that left us having to make some decisions to protect ourselves in the long-run at that position," Banner added.
translation: banner didnt like garcia gettin all uppity on leno so he cut all ties with him
what is banner talking about protecting themselves at that position??...the back up qb spot?...the same way they protected themselves with mike macmahon?...you already have a solid nfl back up on your roster in feely who isnt going anywhere and yet you have to protect yourself against a 37 year old back up hitting free agency??
as for garcia he is so phony its not even funny...hes a good pr guy but who else was sickened at his tb presser yesterday when he says something to the effect of its so great to sign with a team in a city and a state that thrive on football...basically the same shtein almost verbatim that he said about philly
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 10:16:15 AM
when he says something to the effect of its so great to sign with a team in a city and a state that thrive on football...
Tampon's such a great football city that a 32 year-old QB would rather retire than play there.
exactly
to be fair that 32 yr old QB sucks donkey balls.
Phreak, I agree with letting Garcia go. I actually like that they didn't re-sign him. I'm just saying to someone "Make me an offer to stay" is basically the same thing as saying "Stay cheap, or good luck." Which I thought was a little unprofessional, even though I think I would have done the same thing.
Bashing Banner for not signing the guy is just rediculous. Garcia put himself in this exact position by publicly stating he wanted to test the waters. Careful what you wish for there, Jeffy. You might just end up in Oakland or Tampa Bay instead of a city that likes to win.
Bashing Banner for not signing = dumbass.
banner unprofessional?
no way
Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 04, 2007, 11:20:45 AM
to be fair that 32 yr old QB sucks donkey balls.
Yeah, but he doesn't know that...
Quote from: JackStraw on February 26, 2007, 04:48:58 PM
Sure Feeley can, on paper, do it all, blah blah. But Garcia, dishrag arm and all, showed something last year that this team sorely lacked - situational leadership.
And there are enough cracks in the "well-oiled-efficient-machine" facade to render their coldly calculated personnel manipulations and detached press positionings meaningless. If talent acquisition and game-day management were practiced better, maybe, but right now, no sale.
It comes down to how likely it is that McNabb will be ready-to-go come training camp. If he stumbles into the season I sure hope there's someone on this team who can not only play, but also fire-them up when the game-moment calls for it. One thing seems certain - we'll now only have one hope instead of two.
very nice. correct me if im wrong but money wasnt an issue w/ garcia. he just wanted the chance to compete to start. whatever it is, in the end, gaylord fokker is in the circle of trust and will start no matter what