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You guys are a bunch of jerks.
You guys are a bunch of jerks
While I really don't give a rat's ass how people decide to slowly commit suicide, dumb bitches like this woman just need to STFU....
i can't read that article, work blocks Yahoo.
but i have always been against banning smoking in public. i don't smoke, but i hate the whiners who complain about it in public. there are totally non-smoking resturants, go to them. if you go to a bar or a place that allows smoking, you know what you are getting into. stop whining.
I hate 'em too.
It's Italy...why was she not buried during the 15-minute suspension?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 14, 2005, 01:56:46 PM
i can't read that article, work blocks Yahoo.
but i have always been against banning smoking in public. i don't smoke, but i hate the whiners who complain about it in public. there are totally non-smoking resturants, go to them. if you go to a bar or a place that allows smoking, you know what you are getting into. stop whining.
i smoke.
but i am actually in favor of the bans.
the bans benefit the workers in these places more than anyone else. i would hate if i was a non smoker waiting tables while some ignorant chain smoking prick blew smoke in my face because they could.
that being said...the woman at this play should have just kept her damn mouth shut.
I'm now a social smoker only and I cannot farging stand non-smokers. If we want to farging kill ourselves one drag at a time, we should be able to. Banning smoking at bars is what really pisses me off. Beer and butts go together like astroglide and butts. Or beer and pretzels. Or pretzels and astroglide. You know?
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 02:08:40 PM
I'm now a social smoker only and I cannot farging stand non-smokers. If we want to farging kill ourselves one drag at a time, we should be able to. Banning smoking at bars is what really pisses me off. Beer and butts go together like astroglide and butts. Or beer and pretzels. Or pretzels and astroglide. You know?
No pretzels and butts? That seems like something that would be near the top of your list, rjs... Color me disappointed.
Non-smokers don't care about the pollution that their SUV tailpipes force down my lungs, but they care an awful lot about the smoke from my cigarette that gets down theirs.
Non-smokers think the higher cost of medicine for smokers shouldn't be borne by non-smokers, but they're fine with everyone paying for their obesity related medical costs, their alcoholism, etc.
Non-smokers whine and cry about the employees in smoky workplaces, but don't make half so much noise about miners, toll-booth clerks, airport runway workers, or auto mechanics.
My biggest problem is that I don't want dumbass, self-righteous twits telling me that I can't do something that has no bearing on their life. Eat shtein douchebox. Wear a seatbelt if you're so terrified of the way you drive. Me not wearing a seatbelt has nothing to do with anyone else and if I die because of it, that's my fault. Don't write me a ticket for it, assbag.
I'd have to agree with Dio that my biggest pet peeve is fat-assed people that are overly rude to smokers or activists for anti-smoking. Hey... guess what, you diabetes-infested gluttons, you're killing yourself faster than smokers, and you're even more disgusting to the average person.
It's highly annoying that it's PC to rag on smokers, but calling someone a fat piece of shtein is taboo.
BTW, I probably smoke 8-10 cigarettes (not packs) a month at this point. I don't know if that can even be called a "social" smoker, but I suppose that's the best term for it.
I guess I'm the only nonsmoker here, so I'll be quiet... :paranoid
I quit smoking more than three years ago. Still hate non-smokers. Probably always will. Smug sons of bitches.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 14, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
I guess I'm the only nonsmoker here, so I'll be quiet... :paranoid
If you're a fat-ass who preaches to smokers, then keep your trap shut. Otherwise, feel free to share an opinion from the "other side" of the argument. Keep in mind that we know smoking smells like crap, especially to non-smokers.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 02:49:15 PM
My biggest problem is that I don't want dumbass, self-righteous twits telling me that I can't do something that has no bearing on their life.
i think we're kindered spirits.
I have a cigar or two a month, but other than that, I don't smoke. I hate the cigarette smokers who get all indignant at cigar smoke. I've been to bars where I can't have a cigar when everyone else has a cig lit up, and I think that's bullshtein.
Quote from: Zanshin on November 14, 2005, 03:20:18 PM
I have a cigar or two a month, but other than that, I don't smoke. I hate the cigarette smokers who get all indignant at cigar smoke. I've been to bars where I can't have a cigar when everyone else has a cig lit up, and I think that's bullshtein.
It's predictable irony though, isn't it? People suck.
Predictible...yet still retarded. Fairly par for the course.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 14, 2005, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 02:49:15 PM
My biggest problem is that I don't want dumbass, self-righteous twits telling me that I can't do something that has no bearing on their life.
i think we're kindered spirits.
Anyone who disagrees with me is an icehole. Not to say that agreeing with me makes you any less of an icehole, but disagreement guarantees it.
Ya know what, you wanna smoke and kill yourself...i say Thank God! Die you miserable smoking bitches. But, if you are the kind of loser that smokes around my 8 month old kid, i will stab you in the farging eye with a letter opener and twist it out to show you and then i'll shove it down your throat. It's far too disrespectful to smoke around a child.
Nuke children. Stop bringing your kids to expensive restaurants and sitting them next to me on my flights and generally ruining everyone else's good time becuase you're too cheap or lazy to get a sitter.
For strictly selfish reasons I really wish smoking was banned in AC casinos. I figure to save 20-30K per year if my wife can't smoke in the casino. She couldn't tolerate gambling, drinking and no smoking.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:19:25 PM
Ya know what, you wanna smoke and kill yourself...i say Thank God! Die you miserable smoking bitches. But, if you are the kind of loser that smokes around my 8 month old kid, i will stab you in the farging eye with a letter opener and twist it out to show you and then i'll shove it down your throat. It's far too disrespectful to smoke around a child.
Farg you and your precious spawn. Your balloon-head kid is sucking more crap into his lungs from the pollution his pappy makes than he is from smokers. And you know what, if you're the kind of loser that thinks I have to change my life because your runt might be around, I will stab you in the farging meatcicle, twist it, and then shove it down your kid's throat. YOUR life changes because you had a kid, not MINE. Keep your kid away from me and my cigarette, you zesty parent.
while we are at it can we ban miserable screaming 8 month old children from any retail establishments? it's really a detriment to peoples mental health, when you cant go down an aisle because of some farging stroller in the way, and someone pushing it just assuming we will all make way for the queen.
and i am with rjs in the restaurant thing...i went to a hibachi place friday night, and a couple had a 2 year old at the grille, who would not stop crying. get on the grill, bitch!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:19:25 PM
Ya know what, you wanna smoke and kill yourself...i say Thank God! Die you miserable smoking bitches. But, if you are the kind of loser that smokes around my 8 month old kid, i will stab you in the farging eye with a letter opener and twist it out to show you and then i'll shove it down your throat. It's far too disrespectful to smoke around a child.
how about you be a good parent and not take your kid to a resturant that allows smoking.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:21:01 PM
Nuke children. Stop bringing your kids to expensive restaurants and sitting them next to me on my flights and generally ruining everyone else's good time becuase you're too cheap or lazy to get a sitter.
And then all I would hear is, "your ignoring your child, be a better parent". So :flipoff.
I do go crazy when parents let their kids go unattended at resturants, and in public places. Watch your freakin kids people I got my own to worry about.
I smell thread of the year.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 14, 2005, 04:25:37 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:19:25 PM
Ya know what, you wanna smoke and kill yourself...i say Thank God! Die you miserable smoking bitches. But, if you are the kind of loser that smokes around my 8 month old kid, i will stab you in the farging eye with a letter opener and twist it out to show you and then i'll shove it down your throat. It's far too disrespectful to smoke around a child.
Farg you and your precious spawn. Your balloon-head kid is sucking more crap into his lungs from the pollution his pappy makes than he is from smokers. And you know what, if you're the kind of loser that thinks I have to change my life because your runt might be around, I will stab you in the farging meatcicle, twist it, and then shove it down your kid's throat. YOUR life changes because you had a kid, not MINE. Keep your kid away from me and my cigarette, you zesty parent.
Hey Fag, that's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about losers that light up at parks and places where kids are supposed to hang out. I don't take my kid to your farging yuppie hangouts. You are one farged up pathetic loser.
You farging smokers are worthless human beings if you think like Dio.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 14, 2005, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:19:25 PM
Ya know what, you wanna smoke and kill yourself...i say Thank God! Die you miserable smoking bitches. But, if you are the kind of loser that smokes around my 8 month old kid, i will stab you in the farging eye with a letter opener and twist it out to show you and then i'll shove it down your throat. It's far too disrespectful to smoke around a child.
how about you be a good parent and not take your kid to a resturant that allows smoking.
I gotta disagree, a lot of resturants have smoking sections. I can't take my kids their cause people are smoking? I could really care less if people want to smoke, I love cigars and smoke them on a regular basis. i do not smoke them around my kids or anyone who does not like them, or has an issue with it. As much as I don't like people pushing their views on me, I do think other people have the right to not want the smoke around them, that would be me pushing my views on them.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:31:17 PM
Hey Fag, that's not what i'm talking about. I'm talking about losers that light up at parks and places where kids are supposed to hang out. I don't take my kid to your farging yuppie hangouts. You are one farged up pathetic loser.
parks? are you farging kidding me? how much harm is it doing for someone to smoke in a farging park? stop being a queer and start being a good parent. i feel bad for your kids.
yeah, i see lot of grown people light up on a friggin swing set and hanging from monkey bars puffin'.
and if you do, their smoking habit is not the habit is dangerous to your kids.
outside, on a park bench...the smokers can smoke..keep your children at bay.
Are you kidding me icehole? I'm not supposed to take my kid to a park now because you might wanna light up? Farg You! My kid is obviously already worth more in his 8 months than you are for your entire life. Farging losers.
Smoking OUTSIDE in an open air park is somehow affecting your kids? Christ, they're gonna grow up to be germophobic shut-ins. Afraid of everything.
Dio is right. Other people's lives don't revolve around your farging kids.
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:32:20 PM
I gotta disagree, a lot of resturants have smoking sections. I can't take my kids their cause people are smoking? I could really care less if people want to smoke, I love cigars and smoke them on a regular basis. i do not smoke them around my kids or anyone who does not like them, or has an issue with it. As much as I don't like people pushing their views on me, I do think other people have the right to not want the smoke around them, that would be me pushing my views on them.
i have kids too, and any chain resturaunt: Outback, Olive Garden, etc... only allows smoking at the bar and there is usually a good divide and you being there 2 hours (max) is not going to affect them.
but if you are taking kids to a pub-type place, where the smoking section is more integrated in the place, that's on you as a parent. part of being a parent means being responsible enough to do the right things for your kids, not what you want all the time.
and if you smoke in a legal smoking section, you're not pushing your views on anybody. if someone sits in a smoking section and complains about the smoke, they ought to be shot.
I would just like to reiterate that people who think everyone else should cater their behavior to your whims as a parent should be thrown into the sun.
No, the US Government needs to step up and only allow smoking at bars. There should never be a smoking section in a restaraunt. Smoking fools should be eating instead of puffing away. Smokers are a joke.
When i go to a farging bar, i expect to be bombarded by your disgusting smoke, but i know that and don't bitch about it. So you people shouldn't bitch when you go somewhere that doesn't allow your disgraceful habit.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:31:17 PMI'm talking about losers that light up at parks and places where kids are supposed to hang out.
See, that's just it. You fools whine about smoking
outside. And anywhere else you define as a "place where kids are supposed" to be.
You gonna chase down the delivery truck that's spewing 300,000 cigarettes worth of smoke as it pulls away from the light next to the park? No. You're not, you Hoyda.
You gonna start driving an electric powered car to the park, so you're kid doesn't huff pollution from your own car? No. You're not. Because you don't farging care about your kid.
You gonna pay to tear out the wall-to-wall by DuPont at the Day Care, so your kid doesn't have to inhale the chemicals it emits? Nope.
You don't actually care about air quality, or what your kid is breathing. What you want to do is show how much better you are, how much more intelligent and escpieally how much more moral you are. Because you don't smoke tobacco.
Dick.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:39:16 PM
I would just like to reiterate that people who think everyone else should cater their behavior to your whims as a parent should be thrown into the sun.
It kinda sounds like thats what the smokers want, the world to revolve around them.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:39:48 PM
No, the US Government needs to step up and only allow smoking at bars. There should never be a smoking section in a restaraunt. Smoking fools should be eating instead of puffing away. Smokers are a joke.
When i go to a farging bar, i expect to be bombarded by your disgusting smoke, but i know that and don't bitch about it. So you people shouldn't bitch when you go somewhere that doesn't allow your disgraceful habit.
raping 6 year olds is a disgraceful habit.
smoking is for the cool kids.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 14, 2005, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:31:17 PMI'm talking about losers that light up at parks and places where kids are supposed to hang out.
See, that's just it. You fools whine about smoking outside. And anywhere else you define as a "place where kids are supposed" to be.
You gonna chase down the delivery truck that's spewing 300,000 cigarettes worth of smoke as it pulls away from the light next to the park? No. You're not, you Hoyda.
You gonna start driving an electric powered car to the park, so you're kid doesn't huff pollution from your own car? No. You're not. Because you don't farging care about your kid.
You gonna pay to tear out the wall-to-wall by DuPont at the Day Care, so your kid doesn't have to inhale the chemicals it emits? Nope.
You don't actually care about air quality, or what your kid is breathing. What you want to do is show how much better you are, how much more intelligent and escpieally how much more moral you are. Because you don't smoke tobacco.
meatcicle.
Eat it bitch! Go kill yourself. My kid is a bigger man than you.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 14, 2005, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:39:48 PM
No, the US Government needs to step up and only allow smoking at bars. There should never be a smoking section in a restaraunt. Smoking fools should be eating instead of puffing away. Smokers are a joke.
When i go to a farging bar, i expect to be bombarded by your disgusting smoke, but i know that and don't bitch about it. So you people shouldn't bitch when you go somewhere that doesn't allow your disgraceful habit.
raping 6 year olds is a disgraceful habit.
smoking is for the cool kids.
Well, whatever floats your boat...i never said y'all couldn't smoke.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:39:16 PM
I would just like to reiterate that people who think everyone else should cater their behavior to your whims as a parent should be thrown into the sun.
It kinda sounds like thats what the smokers want, the world to revolve around them.
Wrong. Smokers just want to be left alone. What on earth makes you think that they want you to change anything about yourself so that they can smoke? They don't. They just want to have the freedom to smoke a butt without being harrassed by holier than thou dipshteins with nothing better to do with their worthless lives.
QuoteEat it bitch! Go kill yourself. My kid is a bigger man than you.
Wow, great arguement. :-D
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:42:23 PM
Eat it bitch! Go kill yourself. My kid is a bigger man than you.
What a well thought out and reasonable retort.
How odd for a grandstanding parent to lose focus of the facts or issues and resort to 'my child is a demigod and you are all not worthy! Not worthy, I say!'
Pathetic.
On another thread I visit, this exact topic reached about 35 pages, included epic arguments, and made a lot of people hate each other.
I can't wait :evil
I usually go for "first available", because the seating is much quicker, even though I never smoked during a meal, even when I was smoking near a pack a day in college. I love smoking sections for that reason... because useless whiny parents and their crybaby kids never sit in the smoking section. They get to wait an hour for non-smoking, while I get seated within a few minutes. It rules.
I already hate most, so it wouldn't matter. Being a cop teaches you that.
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on November 14, 2005, 04:45:42 PM
On another thread I visit, this exact topic reached about 35 pages, included epic arguments, and made a lot of people hate each other.
I can't wait
You don't have to wait. I already hate all of you.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
they do go outside...to parks.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:47:09 PM
I already hate most, so it wouldn't matter. Being a cop teaches you that.
What do you know! A misanthropic, holier than thou cop. Did you meet your negro/hippy/atheist/non-protestant-bashing quota for this quarter?
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:48:22 PM
Did you meet your negro/hippy/atheist/non-protestant-bashing quota for this quarter?
In Texas, the quota is higher than most states' limits.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
Why should I not smoke where ever I god damn well please? The air itself is damn near carcinogenic, and at least my second hand cigarette smoke makes it smell a little better, or at least masks the reek emanating from your man-puss.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:47:09 PM
I already hate most, so it wouldn't matter. Being a cop teaches you that.
What do you know! A misanthropic, holier than thou cop. Did you meet your negro/hippy/atheist/non-protestant-bashing quota for this quarter?
I didn't meet my icehole quota yet!
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:39:16 PM
I would just like to reiterate that people who think everyone else should cater their behavior to your whims as a parent should be thrown into the sun.
It kinda sounds like thats what the smokers want, the world to revolve around them.
Wrong. Smokers just want to be left alone. What on earth makes you think that they want you to change anything about yourself so that they can smoke? They don't. They just want to have the freedom to smoke a butt without being harrassed by holier than thou dipshteins with nothing better to do with their worthless lives.
By telling me where not to take my kids genius! Just like smokers don't want to be harrassed for smoking, I don't want people telling me where I can take my kid, is that not fair? How am i holier then thou for giving my view, and the smokers are the victims pot, kettle,black. I agree with Sun Mo that I would never take my kid to a pub or bar that is a smoking establishment. Smoking is proven to effect people, don't act like it a healthy activity, and I do smoke cigars, just not around people who do not like them or their smell. get off your high horse.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 14, 2005, 04:46:51 PMThey get to wait an hour for non-smoking, while I get seated within a few minutes. It rules.
Agreed. It's been a long time since I smoked, but when I'm in a state where it's allowed indoors, I always go for smoking section, for exactly the reasons you listed: I'm seated right away and there are no kids. It's great. Also, the ratio of servers to diners is much better, so I get better service.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 14, 2005, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
Why should I not smoke where ever I god damn well please? The air itself is damn near carcinogenic, and at least my second hand cigarette smoke makes it smell a little better, or at least masks the reek emanating from your man-puss.
You tell yourself that. It'll make it all better. I don't care that your lungs are rotting out. I laugh at you. Hahahahaha!! Smokers!! Hahaha!!
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:51:44 PM
By telling me where not to take my kids genius! Just like smokers don't want to be harrassed for smoking, I don't want people telling me where I can take my kid, is that not fair? How am i holier then thou for giving my view, and the smokers are the victims pot, kettle,black. I agree with Sun Mo that I would never take my kid to a pub or bar that is a smoking establishment. Smoking is proven to effect people, don't act like it a healthy activity, and I do smoke cigars, just not around people who do not like them or their smell. get off your high horse.
I'm not telling you where not to take your kids because I care about their interaction with smoke.
I'm telling you where not to take your kids because I don't want them screaming in my ear while I'm trying to shove a steak in my face, or while I'm flying to Amsterdam to smoke more, or running around my feet while I'm shopping for thongs for my ladyfriend. I don't give one shtein if your kids inhale smoke, I just don't want to listen to the farging things scream about whatever bratty issue they're having right that second.
My smoking or not smoking will never cause me to give your kids a second thought. However my smoking, mixed with your kids being within a 30 foot radius of me will cause you to have a hissy fit ('you' being the generic anti-smoking parent). This isn't a two way street.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 14, 2005, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 14, 2005, 04:46:51 PMThey get to wait an hour for non-smoking, while I get seated within a few minutes. It rules.
Agreed. It's been a long time since I smoked, but when I'm in a state where it's allowed indoors, I always go for smoking section, for exactly the reasons you listed: I'm seated right away and there are no kids. It's great. Also, the ratio of servers to diners is much better, so I get better service.
Not only that, but if smoking bothers you when you're eating, there are usually very few people actually smoking, especially at a given time, and many restaurants have extra ventiliation in the smoking area.
Basically, we're smarter than the snobs who refuse to sit in the smoking section at any time. I laugh at them.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 14, 2005, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
Why should I not smoke where ever I god damn well please? The air itself is damn near carcinogenic, and at least my second hand cigarette smoke makes it smell a little better, or at least masks the reek emanating from your man-puss.
You tell yourself that. It'll make it all better. I don't care that your lungs are rotting out. I laugh at you. Hahahahaha!! Smokers!! Hahaha!!
My lungs are not nearly as pussily weak as you; therefore, I need not worry about accelerated decay.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:51:44 PM
By telling me where not to take my kids genius! Just like smokers don't want to be harrassed for smoking, I don't want people telling me where I can take my kid, is that not fair? How am i holier then thou for giving my view, and the smokers are the victims pot, kettle,black. I agree with Sun Mo that I would never take my kid to a pub or bar that is a smoking establishment. Smoking is proven to effect people, don't act like it a healthy activity, and I do smoke cigars, just not around people who do not like them or their smell. get off your high horse.
I'm not telling you where not to take your kids because I care about their interaction with smoke. I'm telling you where not to take your kids because I don't want them screaming in my ear while I'm trying to shove a steak in my face, or while I'm flying to Amsterdam to smoke more, or running around my feet while I'm shopping for thongs for my ladyfriend. I don't give one shtein if your kids inhale smoke, I just don't want to listen to the farging things scream about whatever bratty issue they're having right that second.
My smoking or not smoking will never cause me to give your kids a second thought. However my smoking, mixed with your kids being within a 30 foot radius of me will cause you to have a hissy fit ('you' being the generic anti-smoking parent). This isn't a two way street.
You are exactly the kind of person that i love to run over with my car.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 14, 2005, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 14, 2005, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:36:07 PM
I didn't say that it did, but you farging smokers think you rule the world. Why should we make smoking areas for you people? Go outside and light up and kill yourselves. It's that simple.
Why should I not smoke where ever I god damn well please? The air itself is damn near carcinogenic, and at least my second hand cigarette smoke makes it smell a little better, or at least masks the reek emanating from your man-puss.
You tell yourself that. It'll make it all better. I don't care that your lungs are rotting out. I laugh at you. Hahahahaha!! Smokers!! Hahaha!!
My lungs are not nearly as pussily weak as you; therefore, I need not worry about accelerated decay.
Okay Superman! ::)
It makes so much sense that Wacko is a pig.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:58:36 PM
You are exactly the kind of person that i love to run over with my car.
I'm sure you can get away with that easily as a pig cop. Good thing that's not infriging on someone's "rights" as much as lighting up a Marlboro Light next to them. If so, you might get in REAL trouble.
I love cops. Thank god these angry, imbecilic douchebags are the ones tasked with 'keeping the peace.'
Hey, I've got a great idea! Give the most meatheaded, undereducated testosterone monkeys guns and tell them to make a decision about right and wrong! Yay! It'll be awesome!
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:51:44 PM
By telling me where not to take my kids genius! Just like smokers don't want to be harrassed for smoking, I don't want people telling me where I can take my kid, is that not fair? How am i holier then thou for giving my view, and the smokers are the victims pot, kettle,black. I agree with Sun Mo that I would never take my kid to a pub or bar that is a smoking establishment. Smoking is proven to effect people, don't act like it a healthy activity, and I do smoke cigars, just not around people who do not like them or their smell. get off your high horse.
I'm not telling you where not to take your kids because I care about their interaction with smoke. I'm telling you where not to take your kids because I don't want them screaming in my ear while I'm trying to shove a steak in my face, or while I'm flying to Amsterdam to smoke more, or running around my feet while I'm shopping for thongs for my ladyfriend. I don't give one shtein if your kids inhale smoke, I just don't want to listen to the farging things scream about whatever bratty issue they're having right that second.
My smoking or not smoking will never cause me to give your kids a second thought. However my smoking, mixed with your kids being within a 30 foot radius of me will cause you to have a hissy fit ('you' being the generic anti-smoking parent). This isn't a two way street.
You are exactly the kind of person that i love to run over with my car.
Okay Supercop!
I love pissing you guys off. It gives me all kinds of new names to call people when i can't get myself down to that level.
Not a two way street? Please to you it isn't, but I do care about my kids life (i could really care less if you do) I try to keep my kids out of smokey places, but don't bitch half as much as some of the smokers on this board. It's called being courteous, I try to keep my kid in line at the store, resturant etc... sometimes my kids have a melt down, when tht happens me and my wife leave the place we are in. But do not tell me it isn't a two way street, i am supposed to respect your (smokers) life, but you do not respect mine? Nope that don't work, and is highly hypocritical.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 04:51:44 PM
By telling me where not to take my kids genius! Just like smokers don't want to be harrassed for smoking, I don't want people telling me where I can take my kid, is that not fair? How am i holier then thou for giving my view, and the smokers are the victims pot, kettle,black. I agree with Sun Mo that I would never take my kid to a pub or bar that is a smoking establishment. Smoking is proven to effect people, don't act like it a healthy activity, and I do smoke cigars, just not around people who do not like them or their smell. get off your high horse.
I'm not telling you where not to take your kids because I care about their interaction with smoke. I'm telling you where not to take your kids because I don't want them screaming in my ear while I'm trying to shove a steak in my face, or while I'm flying to Amsterdam to smoke more, or running around my feet while I'm shopping for thongs for my ladyfriend. I don't give one shtein if your kids inhale smoke, I just don't want to listen to the farging things scream about whatever bratty issue they're having right that second.
My smoking or not smoking will never cause me to give your kids a second thought. However my smoking, mixed with your kids being within a 30 foot radius of me will cause you to have a hissy fit ('you' being the generic anti-smoking parent). This isn't a two way street.
You are exactly the kind of person that i love to run over with my car.
car? or big, gas guzzling, 15mpg, smog making SUV?
still, i have never seen someone run up next to a child and light a cigarette...but what i have seen is a whiney bitch of a parent walk up to a person smoking, and complain about how it bothers them. and instead of just WALKING away...go on and on and on and on about it. shut the farg up and go away if the smoke bothers you, go shove another happy meal down your future obese kids throat because it makes them stop crying.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 05:01:44 PM
I love pissing you guys off. It gives me all kinds of new names to call people when i can't get myself down to that level.
I don't see any kind of reasonable level you're capably of getting
up to, both literally and figuratively.
That's it, justify smoking by bringing cars into it. Good job! :yay
No I'm serious! Let's make it so that anyone over a certain size who has their G.E.D. can be given a gun and told to protect the right of those who are more intelligent and more financially successful. There won't be any jealousy or poor decision making at all. Did I mention they get guns and nearly unmitigated power to do as they please? Because those are some awesome perks.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 14, 2005, 05:01:44 PMI love pissing you guys off.
Don't flatter yourself. You're not pissing anyone off.
And with all the OT, it pays well too! :yay
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Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 05:02:23 PM
Not a two way street? Please to you it isn't, but I do care about my kids life (i could really care less if you do) I try to keep my kids out of smokey places, but don't bitch half as much as some of the smokers on this board. It's called being courteous, I try to keep my kid in line at the store, resturant etc... sometimes my kids have a melt down, when tht happens me and my wife leave the place we are in. But do not tell me it isn't a two way street, i am supposed to respect your (smokers) life, but you do not respect mine? Nope that don't work, and is highly hypocritical.
I don't smoke in another person's car unless given expressed oral consent; same with the home. Nor do I smoke where there are signs indicating that such behavior is not allowed. I don't even get pissed when people politely ask me to put out my cigarette. The thing that bothers me is when they consdescendingly ask, "Do you mind?!" farg no, I don't mind at all-I'll continue to smoke while you verbally berate me, occasionally blowing wafts of the sweet sweet smoke into your concerned face.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 14, 2005, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 05:02:23 PM
Not a two way street? Please to you it isn't, but I do care about my kids life (i could really care less if you do) I try to keep my kids out of smokey places, but don't bitch half as much as some of the smokers on this board. It's called being courteous, I try to keep my kid in line at the store, resturant etc... sometimes my kids have a melt down, when tht happens me and my wife leave the place we are in. But do not tell me it isn't a two way street, i am supposed to respect your (smokers) life, but you do not respect mine? Nope that don't work, and is highly hypocritical.
I don't smoke in another person's car unless given expressed oral consent; same with the home. Nor do I smoke where there are signs indicating that such behavior is not allowed. I don't even get pissed when people politely ask me to put out my cigarette. The thing that bothers me is when they consdescendingly ask, "Do you mind?!" farg no, I don't mind at all-I'll continue to smoke while you verbally berate me, occasionally blowing wafts of the sweet sweet smoke into your concerned face.
I agree with you.
People in L.A. crack me up. I was getting all sorts of looks like I'm the Devil or Vishnu or whatever when I'm walking down the Promenade smoking a square as if these people don't realize that you can actually see an touch the air in the most polluted place on Earth.
Cigarette smoke kills me and gets my allergies going.
I also don't like when people are smoking on the perimeter of the basketball court because that shtein fargs me up. Otherwise....Cigars are great and so are the cheap ass, but tasty swisher sweets. 8)
I'm very disappointed that this thread died down.
I want to make something clear. I'm not talking about smokers being able to light up anywhere and everywhere. I'm talking about a little common courtesy and common sense on both sides.
If you don't want your kids around heavy cigarette smoke, have a little farging sense and avoid heavy smoking areas. If one of your family members is a smoker and they come to visit and want to light up, tell them to take it outside. If they cause a stink, kick em in the neck.
What I'm talking about is this assinine assumption that because you don't smoke you have the right to tell people who do whatever is on your mind. You somehow think you're superior. Its horseshtein and its as rampant as asshair on a dyke. Everyone who doesn't smoke thinks that they can tell everyone who does how disgusting it is. Guess what? You're obesity is disgusting. Your attitude towards others is disgusting. Your personality is putrid. That weird stain under your arms is gross. Everyone has something about them that I could spot from three blocks away, and once I spotted it could berate them so much that they would be in tears by the time we crossed paths. Just because someone smokes doesn't give you the right to say one farging word to them. So farging can it.
And yeah, I smoke about 5 butts a month. farg you.
QuoteI want to make something clear. I'm not talking about smokers being able to light up anywhere and everywhere. I'm talking about a little common courtesy and common sense on both sides.
Alright we both agree, I was saying the same thing. Now the main reason this has died down is due to the fact that in under 2 and a 1/2 hours it's time to beat the farg out of Dallas!!!
I want a cigarette.
Badly.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 06:34:41 PM
QuoteI want to make something clear. I'm not talking about smokers being able to light up anywhere and everywhere. I'm talking about a little common courtesy and common sense on both sides.
Alright we both agree, I was saying the same thing. Now the main reason this has died down is due to the fact that in under 2 and a 1/2 hours it's time to beat the farg out of Dallas!!!
FARG DALLAS!! AND NON-SMOKERS!!
Farg Dallas, and i can't wait to light up my La Aurora (torpedo) Cigar on the way home after my board meeting :drool I luv me sum Torpedo! (get your mind out the gutter rjs ;D)
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 06:43:49 PM
Farg Dallas, and i can't wait to light up my La Aurora (torpedo) Cigar on the way home after my board meeting :drool I luv me sum Torpedo! (get your mind out the gutter rjs ;D)
Hey mic, we missed those cigars at the KC tailgate this year...you'll have to make up for it next season!
I'm too lazy to read the 5 pages of this thread, but did anyone point out that "non-smokers" aren't the same as "anti-smokers"? I don't smoke, but I don't care if other people at a restaurant do. You can shoot heroin over at the next table for all I care.
Quote from: hbionic on November 14, 2005, 06:45:11 PM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 14, 2005, 06:43:49 PM
Farg Dallas, and i can't wait to light up my La Aurora (torpedo) Cigar on the way home after my board meeting :drool I luv me sum Torpedo! (get your mind out the gutter rjs ;D)
Hey mic, we missed those cigars at the KC tailgate this year...you'll have to make up for it next season!
Oh please stop it, it's still killing me that I was not able to be there with you guys taking on the KC fans, but Yes the Humidor is always full to the brim, and ready for a roadtrip!!
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2005, 06:48:32 PM
I'm too lazy to read the 5 pages of this thread, but did anyone point out that "non-smokers" aren't the same as "anti-smokers"? I don't smoke, but I don't care if other people at a restaurant do. You can shoot heroin over at the next table for all I care.
Great point QB.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2005, 06:48:32 PM
I'm too lazy to read the 5 pages of this thread, but did anyone point out that "non-smokers" aren't the same as "anti-smokers"? I don't smoke, but I don't care if other people at a restaurant do. You can shoot heroin over at the next table for all I care.
That line made me laugh. And I like that attitude.
I'm probably a day late and a dollar short, but some of us have to work for a living... :D
As a non-smoker, I will usually choose to sit in a non-smoking section, and even more so since I have my son (a non-issue since Florida is a state in which smoking is not allowed in most restaurants anymore). Being Florida, most family-style restaurants have outdoor seating where people can smoke.
I honestly have no problem with restaurants that have a smoking section, as long as it is a physically separated area. I have seen areas in which I was sitting in a "non-smoking section" in which a table less than a foot away was in the "smoking section," divided from my table by a 5' (give or take) high partition. I may as well sit in the smoking section anyway.
I like the fact that smoking in stadiums is in the concourse only. That opinion may be unpopular with many here, but the smoke really does bother me.
As far as bars and such are concerned, I really don't have an opinion, as I am not a drinker. You folks can fight that one out. 8)
You're not a drinker? Dear god. I've run into more people who 'are not drinkers' in the past 12 months than in every year of my life combined? I feel sorry for you sober saps. What the farg do you do when your football team isn't playing well?
Also, yay tobacco!
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 07:06:28 PM
You're not a drinker? Dear god. I've run into more people who 'are not drinkers' in the past 12 months than in every year of my life combined? I feel sorry for you sober saps. What the farg do you do when your football team isn't playing well?
Also, yay tobacco!
Kick the cat.
Like I need a reason to do that... :paranoid
I will say this about smokers: messy fargers. I don't know what it is, but smokers think their cigarette butts aren't litter. There is no difference between the McDonald's cup you no longer need and the cigaretter filter you no longer need; it is equally inappropriate to toss either out the car window. Unless you roll your own, and use all biodegradable components (cotton filters, etc.), don't be confused: flicking that butt is litter, plain and simple. It's offensive behavior and should be punished.
I smoked for 12 years before this dawned on me. For the last 4, I used ashtrays, garbage cans, and my pockets. Afterall, the sword cuts both ways: it's not everyone else's problem that I no longer want that cigarette butt. It's my problem.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 14, 2005, 07:06:28 PM
What the farg do you do when your football team isn't playing well?
Laugh at the drunk people unable to cope. Not the regular drunk people, I mean the ones that are crying.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 14, 2005, 07:15:58 PM
I will say this about smokers: messy fargers. I don't know what it is, but smokers think their cigarette butts aren't litter. There is no difference between the McDonald's cup you no longer need and the cigaretter filter you no longer need; it is equally inappropriate to toss either out the car window. Unless you roll your own, and use all biodegradable components (cotton filters, etc.), don't be confused: flicking that butt is litter, plain and simple. It's offensive behavior and should be punished.
I smoked for 12 years before this dawned on me. For the last 4, I used ashtrays, garbage cans, and my pockets. Afterall, the sword cuts both ways: it's not everyone else's problem that I no longer want that cigarette butt. It's my problem.
holy crap Dio has been drinking!!! ;)
Just kidding, I live on a main street in my town, and every week I cut the grass I pick up about 20 - 30 butts (cigarette) that have blown up on my driveway. Jagbags!!
Well, it pains me to say this, but i agree with rjs on his last big statement. I don't care if you do it...both sides need to respect the other. I don't tell anyone about their smoking and that's it.
I'm smoking right now and I'm exhaling all my smoke directly onto my monitor so it's kind of like I'm blowing it directly in your face. You're welcome.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 14, 2005, 11:19:57 PM
I'm smoking right now and I'm exhaling all my smoke directly onto my monitor so it's kind of like I'm blowing it directly in your face. You're welcome.
We should set up a non-smoking section so you don't kill anyone's babies.
I need a farging cigarette real bad right about now. :boom
[Dennis Leary]
You could make a brand of cigarettes that come in a black pack with a skull and crossbones on it called "Tumors" and smokers would line up for blocks just to get them.
[/Dennis Leary]
Goths would love them.
My idiot friend started smoking a year ago and he's 23. He's coughing all the time now, and always stinks. I feel bad for him, and all the smokers.
Quote from: WEST is GOD on November 15, 2005, 02:44:43 AM
My idiot friend....
You say that as if you had some other kind of friend....
Right now I hate everyone. :boom
You know, it occurs to me that Wacko isn't the first jerk cop from Texas we've had loitering here...
This story fits into this conversation, coincidentally....
QuoteWorkplace air 'unfit'
Tuesday, November 15, 2005
By LAURA FASBACH and WALTER DAWKINS
STAFF WRITERS
Walter Horne is a fatalist when it comes to smoking and health risks.
A waiter at the Cheesecake Factory in Hackensack and a smoker, Horne said it doesn't matter whether the Legislature passes a smoking ban affecting New Jersey's bars, restaurants and casinos.
"I feel like the air outside is just as polluted, so it wouldn't really make a difference to me," Horne said. "We have chemical plants and all that stuff."
But researchers who conducted a new air quality study beg to differ.
In fact, workers throughout New Jersey's smoke-filled establishments are inhaling nearly 3½ times more pollution than what federal regulators consider permissible levels of outdoor pollution, according to the study released Monday.
"Quite frankly, the air is not fit to breathe," said Regina Carlson, executive director of New Jersey GASP, an anti-tobacco group that helped conduct the study.
The results show that allowing smoking in the workplace "poses a clear and present danger" to workers as well as the patrons who frequent smoky establishments, Carlson said at a State House news conference.
The study measured indoor air quality at more than 50 sites around the state - from mom-and-pop diners to bowling alleys and casinos - between Aug. 18 and Sept. 27. Using a hand-held monitoring machine, researchers from the Buffalo, N.Y.-based Roswell Park Cancer Institute measured particles in the air that are 100 times smaller than the diameter of a human hair.
The air in smoky establishments was 15 times more polluted than in similar places that prohibit smoking, according to the study. Researchers also said that the indoor pollution levels were 3.4 times higher than what the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency deems to be safe for outside pollution levels.
Fewer than 19 percent of New Jersey residents smoke, according to 2004 figures from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Supporters of a proposed ban in public places said they hope the findings will bolster efforts to get a bill passed in the Legislature before the end of the year. One of the bill's intentions is to create a healthier environment for workers, who are subjected to secondhand smoke.
"Unless the Legislature acts, it will probably be done through a class-action lawsuit," said Assemblyman Reed Gusciora, D-Mercer, a co-sponsor of the Assembly's version of the bill.
The latest version of the New Jersey Smoke-Free Air Act would ban smoking in venues ranging from restaurants and bars to social clubs such as VFW halls and country clubs. And, in what is likely to become the most contentious provision, smoking would be banned throughout the gaming areas of Atlantic City casinos. An earlier draft would have exempted gaming areas.
A Senate committee approved the bill this year, but the measure has yet to come before the full Senate for a vote.
The Assembly has not moved its version of the bill out of committee, which is necessary for it to be considered for law.
If the measure were to pass, New Jersey would become the 16th state to ban smoking in public places. New York City passed a similar ban in 2003.
Acting Governor Codey, who will step down in January when Governor-elect Jon S. Corzine is sworn in, hopes that getting the smoking ban passed will be part of his legacy.
But time is running out - the current session of the Legislature will also expire in January. That means the bill would die if not enacted by then. Proponents would have to start over again in the next session.
"It is a major goal of the governor's to do something on the smoking ban before he leaves office," said his spokeswoman, Kelley Heck. "He certainly wants to have some sort of an indoor ban in place."
In his campaign, Corzine supported the smoking ban but was undecided on whether it should include casinos.
But some, such as Vincent Rennich, had no doubt casinos should be included.
The 47-year-old has worked as a casino games supervisor in Atlantic City for 25 years. Although he never has been a smoker, he found out recently that he has lung cancer.
"Do we have to subject ourselves to near-death to earn a living?" said Rennich, a supporter of the ban who spoke at the press conference.
"I am embarrassed for our Legislature that we have to hear these stories," said Dr. Alfred Ashford, chief medical officer for the American Cancer Society of New York and New Jersey, which helped conduct the study.
Ashford, an oncologist, urged elected leaders to pass the smoking ban as soon as possible because "everyone knows [smoking] kills."
At diners throughout North Jersey, the opinions on the proposed ban were as varied as the menu selections.
Some shrugged off that they were being exposed to pollutants on the job while others hoped a law would be passed soon.
Rosemary Marquez, a waitress at the New Heritage Diner in Hackensack, said she used to smoke but has kicked the habit.
Anything that would reduce her exposure to secondhand smoke would be a welcome change.
"The dangers of secondhand smoke can be very harmful and you can even get cancer from it, so of course I would rather work in a smoke-free environment," Marquez said.
He co-worker, Diane Simpson, was not as sympathetic to the anti-smoking cause.
Although she knows it's unhealthy, Simpson, 48 and a smoker, said she has "the right as an American citizen to go anywhere I want within reason and have a cigarette."
Instead of a ban, she said designating smoking sections in restaurants or bars is adequate.
At Houston's in Hackensack, waitress Diana Mimon said she used to request to work at the restaurant's smoke-free tables.
Then in January, the restaurant issued its own smoke-free policy.
"In college I worked at a really, really smoky bar and I never made the correlation until later that I had bronchitis every couple of months," said Mimon, who went to Rutgers.
"Since I've been working here I haven't been sick once this whole year."
Quote"Quite frankly, the air is not fit to breathe," said Regina Carlson, executive director of New Jersey GASP, an anti-tobacco group that helped conduct the study.
I'm sure that skank's findings aren't biased at all.
Studies are never biased. Whoever told you otherwise is a communist.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 15, 2005, 09:25:42 AM
You know, it occurs to me that Wacko isn't the first jerk cop from Texas we've had loitering here...
Blow me loser.
I'm so cool, i can change someones name...hahaha...i'm so cool...i'm a New York loser. Oh i'm so cool...look at me...
Dikheadomedes
Awww. Poor widdle piggy wiggy has hurt feewings.
Hurt feelings...not from you. I just wanted to act like you for a minute.
You two want to bunglove each other so badly I can smell it. And it stinks.
Yes, i want to chug his pole.
That line is pretty used up. You got anything better?
You don't deserve better.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 15, 2005, 04:57:01 PM
Yes, i want to chug his pole.
Wow, I don't think hbionic has even ever typed anything so gay. My monitor just caught on fire from your flamejob.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on November 15, 2005, 04:57:28 PM
You don't deserve better.
I was talking to
The Jerk, not
The Pig, fool.
Play nice kids, daddy has a headache.
Yeah, well sometimes the obvious has to be said. I'm not proud.
This thread makes me laugh. And smoke. At the same time.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 15, 2005, 06:45:46 PM
Play nice kids, daddy has a headache.
Like I
asked to be born. You brought this on yourself. Suffer like the rest of us!!
Well I'm sorry but your mother and I missed the window.
I go to this Caterpillar facility to do some work and need a place to put my coat. All of the motherfarging coat closets have signs on them reading:
COAT CLOSET - NON-SMOKERS ONLY
What the motherfarg is that? What the farg am I supposed to do with my motherfarging coat?
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 08, 2005, 02:31:33 PM
I go to this Caterpillar facility to do some work and need a place to put my coat. All of the motherfarging coat closets have signs on them reading:
COAT CLOSET - NON-SMOKERS ONLY
What the motherfarg is that? What the farg am I supposed to do with my motherfarging coat?
i smoke and my wife wont let me put my coat in the closet.
i dont blame her either. the coat i use to go outdoors to smoke in 99% of the time is pretty foul smelling.
That's a domestic issue. I'm being discriminated against at the workplace.
your (or any) workplace has every right to discrimate in that matter. the rest of the people there dont want their jackets and coats smelling like cigarettes.
I don't want my jacket smelling like Febreeze. Maybe they can have a seperate locker for me? Because goddamnit that stuff reeks, and people spray it on everything.
I got a raincoat on Ebay that was supposed to be brand new and sealed in the bag from the factory.
I open the thing and it smelled like I-95 in Richmond. I was so farging pissed off, I sent the thing back with a picture of a cancerous black lung in the bag with the coat.
I don't even care if the bitch gives me my money back. It was worth the 11 bucks to make the point.
:-D
Chicago just passed the "no-smoking" ordinance. Bars have 2 or 3 years to change their ways.
Quote from: Wingspan on December 08, 2005, 03:36:12 PM
your (or any) workplace has every right to discrimate in that matter. the rest of the people there dont want their jackets and coats smelling like cigarettes.
I don't want to sit next to the stinky jackass with halitosis, but you don't hear me bitching.
Mad-Lad: that sucks. It's just a city ordinance, correct? If it's a state law, I have a letter writing campaign to begin.
You smokers are really missing the point.
Every smoker I know has LOVED the non-smoking ordinance because it gives them an opportunity to step outside and make time with the smoker chicks without having the presence of the healthy, non-tubercular people who don't smoke in their way.
(http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
"Hey baby, I'm out of cigarettes, but I got something you can smoke."
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 08, 2005, 04:27:57 PM
You smokers are really missing the point.
Every smoker I know has LOVED the non-smoking ordinance because it gives them an opportunity to step outside and make time with the smoker chicks without having the presence of the healthy, non-tubercular people who don't smoke in their way.
Amen, I smoke a lot. when it's nice outside I love going out 3-4 times a day to smoke and shoot the shtein with the smoker chicks. Co-workers sometimes get jealous that I know the girls from other companies in the building and they don't.
Now that it's butt-ass cold outside they started a smoking lounge in the parking garage, and I can already tell it won't last that long. I've received dirty looks from numerous people walking to their cars. I would tell them to eat it if I knew that they didn't work for my company.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 08, 2005, 04:09:32 PM
Mad-Lad: that sucks. It's just a city ordinance, correct? If it's a state law, I have a letter writing campaign to begin.
City ordinance. You'll be ok out in burb-ville.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on December 08, 2005, 04:55:30 PMCity ordinance. You'll be ok out in burb-ville.
No, you won't. They're coming for you, too. Sooner than later.
I'm way outside of the suburbs of Chicago, in Peoria, IL so I feel safe from the rascist non-smokers.
I'll try not to say 'I told you so' when you revive this thread in 9 months, crying about the witch hunt in Peoria.
Yep, it's only a matter of time before The Man gets you too T-hawk.
In news related to a different kind of smoking, it looks like the Grinch stole Christmas. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1208052cartoon1.html)
Now Mr. Nice Guy is the top dealer in NY. Sweet! :yay
He'd be a much richer dealer if he'd stop giving his girl all those pearl necklaces.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 08, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
In news related to a different kind of smoking, it looks like the Grinch stole Christmas. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1208052cartoon1.html)
The cops are so far behind, it's ridiculous. I know two delivery "companies" that have been operating for more than ten years. And my dealer has been in the business for at least four.
I'm on my way to score now, actually. Haven't found a delivery service that caters to the North Bronx yet. Besides, those guys are shtein. $50 for 2.2 grams is ludicrous.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 08, 2005, 07:13:29 PM
He'd be a much richer dealer if he'd stop giving his girl all those pearl necklaces.
You have smoked yourself retarded.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 08, 2005, 07:13:29 PM
He'd be a much richer dealer if he'd stop giving his girl all those pearl necklaces.
I thought you were all sobery and whatnot. Never would have expected this quote from you...
I also watched Mr Show. You don't have to be high to watch stoner shows and movies. You only have to be high to watch lava lamps for hours.
Please just reread this thread. All of you. It rules.
NO
Quote from: SunMoTzu on June 15, 2006, 02:02:04 PM
yes massa. let me peel your ball sack from my eyelids for a few minutes...please massa
fixed
i LOVE smokers and HATE smoke
Quote from: mussa on June 15, 2006, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: SunMoTzu on June 15, 2006, 02:02:04 PM
yes massa. let me peel your ball sack from my eyelids for a few minutes...please massa
fixed
that doesn't even make sense. why are you such a moron?
don't even try to act like you don't know what the arabian goggles are....
Paraphrased excerpt from a recent telephone conversation:
Girl: Blah, blah, blah, smoking is so bad for you. How can you smoke? You should quit.
Me: Hey, guess what! I just quit smoking!
Girl: Really?! I'm so proud!
Me: No, no, no - you misunderstood. I meant I just put a cigarette out.
Girl: I don't think we should see each other anymore.
I got a "personal ash tray" for my birthday from Marlboro. I finally decided it was time to get off their mailing list, just shy of 3 years from the last time I bought a pack of cigarettes.
If anyone wants the ash tray, it's actually kind of cool. Pay me $5 for shipping, and it's yours.
I don't smoke but I defer you to Bill Hick's "Smokers and Non-Smokers" bit. It's farging great.
"If my smoking bothers you I suggest you go outside and take a look at the world we're living in and SHUTTING THE farg UP!"
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 30, 2007, 10:10:34 AM
I got a "personal ash tray" for my birthday from Marlboro. I finally decided it was time to get off their mailing list, just shy of 3 years from the last time I bought a pack of cigarettes.
If anyone wants the ash tray, it's actually kind of cool. Pay me $5 for shipping, and it's yours.
I'll give you $3.50
The padded envelope I'd send it in was $1, and the shipping will be $4 through USPS.com. So no. $5 or it's grabbage.
i'm hoping T-hawk wasn't serious
I already threw it in the trash last night, and the trash got taken today, so I guess I'm "hoping" too.
Quote from: SunMo on January 30, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
i'm hoping T-hawk wasn't serious
Joking? About the ashtray, yes. About the hilarious phone call, no.
Missoura still allows you to smoke inside, and they don't have fire safe cigarettes. I'm moving
QuoteMan on oxygen dies after lighting a cigarette
Posted by Carol Robinson -- Birmingham News January 12, 2009 3:05 PM
A Birmingham man died today after he lit a cigarette while wearing his oxygen mask and tank.
Danny Glenn McLemore, 55, of Second Court North, was pronounced dead at 10:58 a.m. on the front steps of his apartment. Authorities said it appears he ran outside when he started to feel the pain from the burning and collapsed.
An acquaintance told police McLemore had twice done this before. Both times, the acquaintance was able to pull off the oxygen mask before McLemore was seriously injured.
Investigators said the tubing and mask removed from McLemore were burned.
Authorities said unfortunately it's fairly common.
"We've had houses catch on fire or blow up because of that," said Birmingham Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief C.W. Mardis. "It's strictly a no-no, but a lot of people just don't heed the rules.
"They think it won't happen, but unfortunately this is a perfect example that it can and will happen.
It would be more appropriate for the Good Riddance thread.
yup...see ya loser
All you non smoker holier than thou fargs can congratulate yourselves for siring the mindset behind this:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/28/ent.movie.smoking/index.html
Why is it fat people have no self control, but you smokers are all OK?
Weak minded bastich.
You're fat and sensitive. Ha.
Once the smokers quit (read: the ones that aren't forced into the smoker labor camps and still count as having whatever human rights are still applicable), they'll all get fat anyway.
there shouldnt be smoking in real life....why would you have it in the movies?
Quote from: Father Demon on May 28, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
Why is it fat people have no self control, but you smokers are all OK?
Smoking makes you look like an awesome zombie stomping sex machine.
Being fat makes you look like a sloppy donut pounding Magic the Gathering geek.
I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I thought I would share.
I never smoked cigarettes other than for the stray drinking game that required it. I did used to smoke a lot of cigars, though. I could go for a good cigar about now, actually.
I got laid off last week so now I hate myself for not smoking
i like smoking after i get laid. can't imagine having the same feeling after getting laid off though. try vodka. it'll make you feel better.
Vodka is for women and sissies. If anything it would be whiskey followed by whisky followed by scotch followed by bourbon followed by mas tequila. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to drink without smoking
In that case just smoke. It isn't worth it.
i quit cold turkey for about 8 months but am now a smoker again. yay.
One nice thing about smoking...we probably won't live long enough to be trapped with a bunch of non smoking Hoydas in an old folks home from the time we're 80 to 98. Good for you non smokers, enjoy those last couple decades.
Show up to Chuggie's house when you get that hole drilled in your throat.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 03, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
One nice thing about smoking...we probably won't live long enough to be trapped with a bunch of non smoking Hoydas in an old folks home from the time we're 80 to 98. Good for you non smokers, enjoy those last couple decades.
We're all fat so you'll probably last longer on one lung than we will on, well, nothing really. Just a big pile of goo.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 03, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
One nice thing about smoking...we probably won't live long enough to be trapped with a bunch of non smoking Hoydas in an old folks home from the time we're 80 to 98. Good for you non smokers, enjoy those last couple decades.
Don't worry smokers...we'll probably be banging all of your wives as soon as you pass...so...18 years of leathery, wrinkly, threesomes should keep our hearts going well into our 90's.
You can have a threesome with my wife and me anytime hotcakes, no need to wait until you're 90.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 03, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
One nice thing about smoking...we probably won't live long enough to be trapped with a bunch of non smoking Hoydas in an old folks home from the time we're 80 to 98. Good for you non smokers, enjoy those last couple decades.
You've convinced me to go buy another pack
Senate overwhelmingly approves FDA regulation of tobacco (as I sit here with a chew in)
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1093181.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1093181.html)
More laws telling me what I can and cannot put in my body and how and where I can or cannot do it please.
Whatever. farg you all.
thats how i take it. We're only a few years from Liquor being outlawed. I will go apeshtein.
farging NJ and Delaware are raising the "Sin Tax" on cigs and booze. NJ is talking about a 25% hike. Delaware would only be from distributors to restaurants, but your looking at a 1 dollar increase on a pint. farg Gubament
liquor will never be outlawed as long as you live
Unless you're really old.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 12, 2009, 09:05:19 AM
thats how i take it. We're only a few years from Liquor being outlawed. I will go apeshtein.
farging NJ and Delaware are raising the "Sin Tax" on cigs and booze. NJ is talking about a 25% hike. Delaware would only be from distributors to restaurants, but your looking at a 1 dollar increase on a pint. farg Gubament
Liquor will never be outlawed.
The price on booze has already gone up here, at least in terms of buying cases of it. I've noticed a dollar jump in pretty much every 6 pack-30 pack I've bought.
And finally the government is taking Big Tobacco, bending them over, and farging them right up the ass. I love it.
Yeah! More laws! More government control! Yeah yeah! The American dream, baby!
Government can control Tobacco all the live long day and I will sit back and enjoy.
QuoteMunson 03:13:41 PM Viewing rjs246's profile.
Go away, douche.
haha I defintely wasn't viewing your profile....I was in the begging stages of posting my last reply.
The board is broken.
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
haha I defintely wasn't viewing your profile....I was in the begging stages of posting my last reply.
The board is broken.
Even your defense of yourself makes no sense.
Uh, yes it does....I did not at any point click on your name. I read your reply, I clicked "post reply", then I posted a reply and moved on with my life.
You should relax. Go have a smoke or something. Pretty soon you won't be able to do that anymore 8)
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
haha I defintely wasn't viewing your profile....I was in the begging stages of posting my last reply.
The board is broken.
You're an idiot, but keep digging your hole.
Maybe next the government will ban cut-off sleeves. The where will you be?
Quote from: rjs246 on June 12, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Munson on June 12, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
haha I defintely wasn't viewing your profile....I was in the begging stages of posting my last reply.
The board is broken.
You're an idiot, but keep digging your hole.
Maybe next the government will ban cut-off sleeves. The where will you be?
Ahh, irony.
Just because I too can be an idiot does not in any way lessen your idiocy.
i'm guessing Munson hates big tobacco because one or more of his relatives died of lung cancer
LOL
cept his moms liver looks like a rain soaked egg carton and as we all know he loves his alcohol
Why yes, Sun, I have lost a grandmother to lung cancer LOL.
ANd sorry Igs, mom doesn't drink much at all. She is also a smoker. HAs been annoying the shtein out of me for 21 years with it. Would love to see nothing less then a complete smoking ban, but basically taking everything out of it that would make it enjoy able for smokers is a good second place.
I'm going to kidnap you and kill you now munson. There is no way around it
See how fast you quit when they put Munson and his guitar on the front of every pack.
I feel like a shot of my hairy ass would be more helpful.
Obama to sign anti-smoking bill in Rose Garden
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is set to sign into law an anti-smoking bill that will give the Food and Drug Administration unprecedented authority to regulate tobacco.
Obama is scheduled to sign the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act during an event Monday in the Rose Garden. The law allows the FDA to reduce nicotine in tobacco products, ban candy flavorings and block labels such "low tar" and "light." Tobacco companies also will be required to cover their cartons with large graphic warnings.
The law won't let the FDA ban nicotine or tobacco outright, but the agency will be able to regulate what goes into tobacco products, make public the ingredients and prohibit marketing campaigns, especially those geared toward children.
Anti-smoking advocates looked forward to the bill after years of attempts to control an industry so fundamental to the U.S. that carved tobacco leaves adorn some parts of the Capitol.
Opponents from tobacco-growing states like top-producing North Carolina argued that the FDA has proved through a series of food safety failures that it's not up to the job. They also said that instead of unrealistically trying to get smokers to quit or to prevent others from starting, lawmakers should ensure that people have other options, like smokeless tobacco.
As president, George W. Bush opposed the legislation and threatened a veto after it passed the House last year. The Obama administration, by contrast, issued a statement declaring strong support for the measure.
Obama has spoken publicly of his own struggles to quit cigarettes.
I honestly don't see how allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco is an anti-smoking bill. It may be anti-tobacco-corporations, but the two aren't really the same unless you're a cynical pro-corporation whore.
This is a good thing in my opinion.
As effective as the FDA has been with drugs, I'm sure we'll see the same success with tobacco. Who's up for explosive diarrhea menthols?
Quote from: rjs246 on June 22, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
I honestly don't see how allowing the FDA to regular tobacco is an anti-smoking bill. It may be anti-tobacco-corporations, but the two aren't really the same unless you're a cynical pro-corporation whore.
This is a good thing in my opinion.
this is a good opinion in my opinion.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 22, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
I honestly don't see how allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco is an anti-smoking bill. It may be anti-tobacco-corporations, but the two aren't really the same unless you're a cynical pro-corporation whore.
theres no difference btwn anti smoking and anti tobacco.....you go after smokers you are going after the people who provide the means to smoke
the bill is trying to stop people from smoking and/or causing people to quit smoking...thats as anti smoking as it gets
Your binary view of the world is too ridiculous to comprehend.
i dont know what binary means but if more people viewed things in the way i do it would be a much better planet to reside on
No
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 22, 2009, 03:04:43 PM
i dont know what binary means but if more people viewed things in the way i do it would be a much better planet to reside on
I think he's saying you are the matrix, neo
now they're gonna ban smoking in the farging military
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/military.smoking.ban/index.html
jesus christ what a bunch of iceholes. of all people you might cut some slack for, you'd think it might be the ones doing the killing and dying for everyone else
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 22, 2009, 08:10:47 AM
Obama to sign anti-smoking bill in Rose Garden
Ahh yes, just what we need, more government.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 12, 2009, 06:53:27 AM
now they're gonna ban smoking in the farging military
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/military.smoking.ban/index.html
jesus christ what a bunch of iceholes. of all people you might cut some slack for, you'd think it might be the ones doing the killing and dying for everyone else
wow. what's next? no drinking on base?
even though i smoke, i understand why people want to get rid of smoking all together. it's a dirty habit that smells bad, stains your teeth and kills your lungs. but if you're going to start putting rules in place to reduce smoking in the military then they had better be rules that apply across the board to everyone.
of course, one major thing that sucks about being in the military is that the laws that govern my daily life don't have to always be constitutional.
I have no problem with banning smoking in the military, it's counterproductive to one's health.
In the same vein, when is Obama going to sign a smoking ban for currently serving US Presidents?
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 22, 2009, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 22, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
I honestly don't see how allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco is an anti-smoking bill. It may be anti-tobacco-corporations, but the two aren't really the same unless you're a cynical pro-corporation whore.
theres no difference btwn anti smoking and anti tobacco.....you go after smokers you are going after the people who provide the means to smoke
the bill is trying to stop people from smoking and/or causing people to quit smoking...thats as anti smoking as it gets
Having the FDA regulate tobacco products is no where near the same as being anti-tobacco. It does, however, prevent the tobacco companies from adding anything they want to increase the addictiveness of nicotine, like potent carcinogens, and minimize how and where they can advertize.
And I personally don't believe the FDA has been that bad. A lot of the problems with drugs like Vioxx were the drug companies fault for over-marketing. Granted, the FDA did allow direct marketing, which was farging ridiculous and should end immediately. But they in general do a reasonable job. Most of my "colleagues" actually find them overbearing, which is how it should be IMO.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on July 12, 2009, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 22, 2009, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on June 22, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
I honestly don't see how allowing the FDA to regulate tobacco is an anti-smoking bill. It may be anti-tobacco-corporations, but the two aren't really the same unless you're a cynical pro-corporation whore.
theres no difference btwn anti smoking and anti tobacco.....you go after smokers you are going after the people who provide the means to smoke
the bill is trying to stop people from smoking and/or causing people to quit smoking...thats as anti smoking as it gets
Having the FDA regulate tobacco products is no where near the same as being anti-tobacco. It does, however, prevent the tobacco companies from adding anything they want to increase the addictiveness of nicotine, like potent carcinogens, and minimize how and where they can advertize.
And I personally don't believe the FDA has been that bad. A lot of the problems with drugs like Vioxx were the drug companies fault for over-marketing. Granted, the FDA did allow direct marketing, which was farging ridiculous and should end immediately. But they in general do a reasonable job. Most of my "colleagues" actually find them overbearing, which is how it should be IMO.
theres a lot more to the bill than just the fda regulation of tobacco products
Quote from: Eagaholic on July 12, 2009, 03:21:22 PMI have no problem with banning smoking in the military, it's counterproductive to one's health.
I look forward to sitting on the committee that audits your personal life and bans those things we deem counterproductive to your health. The committee cares about you.
Quote from: Eagaholic on July 12, 2009, 03:21:22 PM
I have no problem with banning smoking in the military, it's counterproductive to one's health.
i wouldn't have as much of a problem with this if you would have just said you wouldn't mind banning smoking in the us. at least you wouldn't be singling out a specific group of people and would be in favor of a law that applies to everyone.
Quote
In the same vein, when is Obama going to sign a smoking ban for currently serving US Presidents?
it seems like you're thinking that the military smoking ban is obama's idea or that he's going to give it his full support. i haven't seen anything in the article that would lead me to believe that obama would even be in favor of this ban.
Drink and smoke.
Drink and smoke.
Drink and smoke.
HA HA.
farg you.
Drink and smoke.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 12, 2009, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on July 12, 2009, 03:21:22 PMI have no problem with banning smoking in the military, it's counterproductive to one's health.
I look forward to sitting on the committee that audits your personal life and bans those things we deem counterproductive to your health. The committee cares about you.
Fine, when I enlist you'll be the first to know.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 12, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on July 12, 2009, 03:21:22 PM
I have no problem with banning smoking in the military, it's counterproductive to one's health.
i wouldn't have as much of a problem with this if you would have just said you wouldn't mind banning smoking in the us. at least you wouldn't be singling out a specific group of people and would be in favor of a law that applies to everyone.
Quote
In the same vein, when is Obama going to sign a smoking ban for currently serving US Presidents?
it seems like you're thinking that the military smoking ban is obama's idea or that he's going to give it his full support. i haven't seen anything in the article that would lead me to believe that obama would even be in favor of this ban.
The military is a whole different set of people than the civilian population (which I think you pointed out earlier) which people voluntarily enter. It seems counter productive to expend so much energy in training, conditioning, etc and to smoke at the same time.
I don't think a cigarette here and there is likely to be harmful but as a habit it is. And for the record, I agree with
Dio that if there is a group that we'd want to support in special ways it should be the military, but there are much better and more supportive places to start - particularly with fair assessment and delivery of promised care for service connected vets and provision of the best available equipment for combat soldiers.
With Omaba, I was just referring to the fact he smokes.
this would be one of the more ass-backwards laws ever passed
guys are over there tip-toeing around stressed as hell thinking a car bomb is going to go off any second and they cant catch a butt? people just dont get it.
farg that...if Im about to die for your law happy country come and take the shtein out my mouth
Being fat is just as bad for you as smoking. (http://health.msn.com/health-topics/quit-smoking/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100252110)
In other news, it's just as dangerous to other people as well. My blood pressure goes thru the roof every time I have Giganto sitting in my airplane/train/bus/subway seat with me.
luckily fat people will never be banned from eating in restaurants and bars
More's the pity.
We just need to drum up a witch hunt, find some tangential negative affect on the rest of us, and we can run these people out of every public and private space except their homes. It's the American way.
And oh yeah, tax them heavily.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 15, 2010, 09:01:54 AM
More's the pity.
wtf?
did you grow up in county gloucestershire in the 1850's or something
Yes.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 15, 2010, 09:04:05 AM
We just need to drum up a witch hunt, find some tangential negative affect on the rest of us, and we can run these people out of every public and private space except their homes. It's the American way.
And oh yeah, tax them heavily.
That would be much better than the current methodology of trying to control what kind of food can be served at McDonalds.
The tangential and tangible negative affect is how sumo-ugs raise health insurance rates because of the care they need.
That argument suffers from the same fatal flaw that it did regarding health care costs for smokers: since fat people die a lot sooner, they actually cost us all less in the long run. A few knee replacements and diabetes drugs followed by death at 60 is cheaper than an extra 25 years of old person medicine, hip replacements, etc.
i smoke a lot again. yay.
if most smokers werent whiney douches and had some intestinal fortitude they wouldnt frequent restaurants and bars that ban smoking...and once that happened youd see smoking laws go bye bye with the quickness
public health is important but not as important as money
So the douche who whines about smokers and smoking is calling smokers whiney douches. Got it.
It's the same methodology behind the TEA party responding to the NAACP by calling them racists.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 15, 2010, 11:19:38 AM
if most smokers werent whiney douches and had some intestinal fortitude they wouldnt frequent restaurants and bars that ban smoking...and once that happened youd see smoking laws go bye bye with the quickness
public health is important but not as important as money
I read somewhere that while smokers hang out longer, non smokers spend more money. And a good number of communities that have banned smoking at all restaurants have seen more traffic in their establishments overall.
I don't care about it either way, but it was interesting to see the findings a year or two after the bans in place.
i dont whine about it....i just hate it...if smoke is bothering me i move...only time ill whine is if someone is smoking where they shouldnt....try to light up in my crib...or have a blatant disregard about what their smoke is doing...like smoking in a car and not putting your window down cause its cold out
i hate smokers not smoking
but again thats not the point...all you crybabies need to take a stand or zip it up and move on
Quote from: charlie on July 15, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 15, 2010, 11:19:38 AM
if most smokers werent whiney douches and had some intestinal fortitude they wouldnt frequent restaurants and bars that ban smoking...and once that happened youd see smoking laws go bye bye with the quickness
public health is important but not as important as money
I read somewhere that while smokers hang out longer, non smokers spend more money. And a good number of communities that have banned smoking at all restaurants have seen more traffic in their establishments overall.
I don't care about it either way, but it was interesting to see the findings a year or two after the bans in place.
while that may be true...if smokers in force stopped going to places that banned smoking there wouldnt be bans....or there would certainly be other solutions found...way to much money would be lost
i will say tho the incessant whining by smokers subsides over time as we get further and further into these kinds of bans...its still annoying but much more tolerable...
Quote
Life just became more of a drag for New York City smokers after Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed a bill Tuesday banning smoking in many public places.
The new law will make smoking illegal in New York City's 1,700 parks and on the city's 14 miles of public beaches. Smokers will also be prohibited from lighting up in pedestrian plazas such as Times Square.
those two pops you just heard were dio and rjs heads exploding
There's one solution to all of this. E-CIG.
i dont smoke cigarettes anymore, but thats farging ridiculous...if youre outside, you should be allowed to smoke
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/25/nyregion/25tobacco.html?_r=1
This lady grows her own in Brooklyn.
She goes straight to the heart of the matter: "[The fact I'm smoking tax-free tobacco will] make the antismokers apoplectic," said Ms. Silk. "They're using the power of taxation to coerce behavior. That's not what taxation is supposed to be for."
Actually, if someone wants to grow their own and smoke it, good for them.
Tobacco still isn't good for you but it's a hell of a lot better than the chemical pumped stuff they buy at the store.
Take the nicotine out of tobacco and we'll see how fast the smoking rates fall.
No shtein sherlock...take the THC out of mary jane and we'll see how many potheads are left
Who doesn't enjoy non-alcoholic vodka?
I myself shoot poppy-scented saline solution intravenously on a recreational basis.
Quote from: Tomahawk on February 25, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
No shtein sherlock
i dunno why, but this made me laugh.
Quote from: Tomahawk on February 25, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
No shtein sherlock...take the THC out of mary jane and we'll see how many potheads are left
If I'm not mistaken, THC is naturally in weed.
Nicotine is not.
If I'm not mistaken, nicotine is naturally in tobacco.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 25, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
If I'm not mistaken, nicotine is naturally in tobacco.
of course it does...did the fda just come out with breaking news that says otherwise?
Quote from: Munson on February 25, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on February 25, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
No shtein sherlock...take the THC out of mary jane and we'll see how many potheads are left
If I'm not mistaken, THC is naturally in weed.
Nicotine is not.
wow
wait munson actually said there isnt nicotine in tobacco?
Considering that tobacco's proper name is Nicotiana Tabacum, I'd say there's a slim chance that it has nicotine in it.
Nicotine is a natural chemical that gives smokers and dippers that feeling of satisfaction and keeps them coming back.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 26, 2011, 01:24:45 AM
Nicotine is a natural chemical that gives smokers and dippers that feeling of satisfaction and keeps them coming back.
all you need is a cowboy hat a stallion and a racially insensitve indian and you be gettin paid
So all he needs is the hat and a horse?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2011, 01:30:29 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 26, 2011, 01:24:45 AM
Nicotine is a natural chemical that gives smokers and dippers that feeling of satisfaction and keeps them coming back.
all you need is a cowboy hat a stallion and a racially insensitve indian and you be gettin paid
I've got 2 out of 3. Guess which 2.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
wait munson actually said there isnt nicotine in tobacco?
yeah...see the high comedy you miss when you have him on ignore?
I guess I should have sad that the mary jane has natural levels of THC that will get you high, whereas cigarette companies pump their products full of far more nicotine than is actually in there...not to mention the thousands of other chemicals they add.
though I guess you could argue they'd do the same with weed if it were ever legalized and marketed.
they already do
christ man
"They" are illegal growers and sellers looking to improve the potency of their weed......tobacco companies just add shtein to make it more addictive.
Kind of curious to see what would happen to weed if it were legalized and mainstreamed like cigarettes....would it become less potent but watered down with addictive chemicals, or would "Big Weed" just continue to look for ways to make it more potent.
Quote from: Munson on February 26, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
"They" are illegal growers and sellers looking to improve the potency of their weed......tobacco companies just add shtein to make it more addictive.
Kind of curious to see what would happen to weed if it were legalized and mainstreamed like cigarettes....would it become less potent but watered down with addictive chemicals, or would "Big Weed" just continue to look for ways to make it more potent.
I just would like it legalized, for no specific reason :paranoid
Quote from: Diomedes on February 26, 2011, 04:43:42 PM
they already do
christ man
Seriously. All of the best shtein is modified in some way. To label it as 'natural' modification is farging fantasy nonsense.
The House Of Reps in Illinois just passed a bill to allow smoking in casinos. That's what I call progress
Illinois has casinos?
Used to be only Riverboat casinos but apparently they can build 'em on underground lakes now or near a body of water
Natural extension of the anti-smoking mania. With any luck, fat people will be next..all you non smoker fat people we're coming after you next. Put down the sandwich.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/30/us/pennsylvania-nicotine-testing/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Quote(CNN) -- A Pennsylvania hospital is expected to begin screening job applicants for signs of nicotine early next year, claiming it will not hire smokers, a hospital spokeswoman said Friday.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/december/359544/Volusia-County-EVAC-workers-fired-for-failing-smoking-test?cid=rss (http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/december/359544/Volusia-County-EVAC-workers-fired-for-failing-smoking-test?cid=rss)
This shtein is ridiculous. They were smokers before they were hired and then were ordered to quit. It's fascist bullshtein but in this environment where the workers are routinely shtein on by ownership and management, it's not exactly surprising news.
Even though I used to smoke and still will occasionally when hammered, I get the laws against second-hand smoke and whatnot. It smells awful, makes food taste worse, etc. If it really can cause cancer, I don't know...
But this shtein makes no sense at all. It's a LEGAL habit. Employers should have no right to disqualify candidates based on being smokers. None.
I quit smoking on my 30th bday for my wife, i figured she'd want me to die asap and to keep smoking but she said for years at 30 i should stop. Cold turkey, no problem, but the fact that you can lose a job or be discriminated is ridiculous.
I would be more in favor of the govt banning tobacco all together more than I am in favor of businesses discriminating against smokers in their hiring practices.
It's not so much the discrimination against someone that smokes, it's just that you fargers stink. It's akin to someone dipping their clothes in diarrhea water and spraying themselves with urine cologne and going to work. I really do not know which one is worse.
Anything that gets smoking one step closer to being illegal :yay
LOL, so you champion how the government is taking over the world, forcing its will upon everyone and how evil they are. Now you want them to ban something this country was founded on?
You have to balance the health concerns of those who don't smoke with those who do. I don't care if people smoke but I don't want to smell their filth in restaurants or public offices, or frankly, anywhere I go. I know that's an unrealistic expectation on my part, but hey, I'm closer to death now than I am to my birth, so I don't give a farg whose feelings I hurt.
I don't see a lot of worry about balancing your right to drive a Hummer against my right to clean air. Wonder why?
Nor do I see a lot of worry about my ability to be healthy being balanced against your right to eat like a goddamn pig. But my eating doesn't affect you, you'll cry through your double quarter pounder. Wrong. It is proven fact that richer people are more healthy than poorer people. It is also proven fact that health care for obese Americans costs far more than for healthy people--as much as a third more if I recall--and that cost is being subsidized by healthy people like me. In short, fat people are sapping the ability of healthy people to pursue the happiness guaranteed to them by our highest law. You may call this argument a stretch, and of course I agree, but the point I make is that the stretch is only one of a degree further than the one being made regarding smoking.
You don't like the smoking, don't smoke, and don't hang with smokers. Banning smoking outdoors, firing smokers, etc....farging fascist crap akin to doing the same to fat people.
I agree with everything you posted.
That still doesn't mean I like smelling your secondhand smoke when I'm eating two doubles at Five Guys or walking out of a public building or sitting on a beach or walking down a ramp at a stadium. No non-smoker does, Dio.
I'm not saying that people should be fired for smoking or that smoking/dipping should be illegal. It shouldn't and people shouldn't be discriminated against in any way because they partake in a legal activity. I'm saying I detest it, it makes me sick to smell it, and I don't give a flying farg if that hurts a smoker/dipper's feelings.
Great, let's argue for shteins.
I don't care if you don't like it. I don't like the way your goddamn cologne smells, but I have little farging choice on that.
Also, I don't smoke, haven't for 2 years this coming April Fool's Day. Yes, the date was deliberate. You don't have to smoke to observe that people who complain about smokers of all things are crying entitled nancies.
boo hoo hoo, your smoke offends my tender sensibilities, waa
Quote from: Diomedes on January 01, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
Great, let's argue for shteins.
I don't care if you don't like it. I don't like the way your goddamn cologne smells, but I have little farging choice on that.
Also, I don't smoke, haven't for 2 years this coming April Fool's Day. Yes, the date was deliberate. You don't have to smoke to observe that people who complain about smokers of all things are crying entitled nancies.
boo hoo hoo, your smoke offends my tender sensibilities, waa
Yeah and what about the smokers who douse themselves in cologne to cover up the smoke smell and they end up reeking like a whorehouse?
Re-education camps.
Obviously that won't work.
Ovens, on the other hand...
Quote from: Rome on January 01, 2012, 12:02:54 PM
Obviously that won't work.
Ovens, on the other hand...
no good, more smoke
Microwave?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 01, 2012, 10:02:38 AM
LOL, so you champion how the government is taking over the world, forcing its will upon everyone and how evil they are. Now you want them to ban something this country was founded on?
The chemicals being put into cigarettes need to be heavily regulated (and eliminated), or smoking needs to go altogether. I'd actually prefer the former simply because we've already seen that prohibition does not work.
And as others have brought up, unlike drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette doesn't just effect you, but the others around you. So much like drinking and driving is illegal, as should smoking in public be.
I hate smoking, the way it smells, and everything else about it. But if someone is outside smoking I could give two shteins.
You suck if you smoke.
Quote from: Feva on January 02, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
You suck if you smoke.
We smokers prefer to call it "puffing."
My New Year's resolution was to smoke more cigarettes. If I would've read the last dozen or so posts first, it would have been to start blowing my second hand smoke in people's stupid faces
QuoteA U.S. judge sided with tobacco companies on Wednesday, ruling that regulations requiring large graphic health warnings on cigarette packaging and advertising violate free-speech rights under the U.S. Constitution.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/29/us-usa-tobacco-labels-idUSTRE81S23820120229
Interesting, and I agree with this rationale behind the ruling
QuoteWhile educating the public about the dangers of smoking "might be compelling, an interest in simply advocating that the public not purchase a legal product is not," Leon wrote in a 19-page ruling.
The proposal is more than just advocating not smoking, its coercion. Anyone who doesn't realize the dangers of smoking at this point just has their head in the sand. Most anyone who smokes knows there are real health risks and they don't need to be beaten over the head with it. It may be a different story with the aspect of kids smoking but that's a different issue.
I don't understand how people can participate in this filthy, disgusting, abhorrent activity.
Chantix is a miracle drug and worth every penny I pay out of pocket since my insurance doesn't cover it.
Have you had any of the side effects? My doctor was talking to my mom about it but was weary of the side effects.
my doc gave me a scrip for chantix. and it's covered by my insurance. but i love smoking still.
I have not...maybe a weird dream every once in a while, but not these full on nightmares sissybitches bawl about. Even if I had every single side effect chantix has to offer, the three/six months of those are worth being smoke free. The possibility of a side effect is no reason to not try a drug...how the farg do you know if it's going to affect you like that unless you actually pop the pills?
i quit smoking by just stopping and not doing it again.
Hoydas
Quote from: phattymatty on September 27, 2012, 01:18:09 PM
my doc gave me a scrip for chantix. and it's covered by my insurance. but i love smoking still.
I'm not sure why my plan doesn't cover it...other than that it's apparently a good plan. Somebody was saying corporate believes chantix is too new and/or risky to cover so they want you to take wellbutrin instead. wellbutrin doesn't do shtein
Quote from: SunMo on September 27, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
i quit smoking by just stopping and not doing it again.
Hoydas
I'm impressed with you people. If god existed, he'd know how many times I unsuccessfully tried to quit with nothing more than willpower. Success would most certainly never been realized without this miracle drug. And the bonus is I can be the most sonofabitchy self-righteous ex-smoker there ever was
Every time I've had any kind of success with quitting, it's been cold turkey, no cheating, no gum. If I cheat, I go back. I've been on various programs and different pills, none of that worked.
It's been 2 and a half years this time.
(http://i.imgur.com/1yjSP.png)
http://blogs.phillymag.com/bewellphilly/2013/02/20/upenn-health-hire-smokers-starting-july-1st/
Makes sense.
Makes fascist sense
Well, that's the first blush...I agree with that. But the business is about health, and smoking is clearly a step in the other direction. It's a slippery slope, though...because you could say the same thing about obesity. Are they going to ban obese doctors? I absolutely get it, and it does make sense...but it opens the door to some problems.
QuoteSo is this policy legal? Surprisingly, yes. "The federal anti-discrimination laws and Pennsylvania anti-discrimination laws do not protect smokers as a protected class," local employee rights attorney Laura Mattiacci told NBC 10. The hope is that by weeding out tobacco users, UPHS can lower its health care costs, though, it admits, there haven't been any studies to prove that such measures actually work.
If they were doing this out of the pure love of health, it would at least be borderline acceptable. farg the racket of insurance.
Oh, yeah. Insurance is a maddening disaster. No doubt about that.
Said it before and I'll say it again, I would rather see tobacco simply banned altogether than to have employers tell me that I can't enjoy a legal activity on my own time. I'm sure that frequent and excessive alcohol consumption has a negative impact on your overall health but you don't see them telling employees to stop drinking at night or on the weekends, do you?
You want ban smoking during the work day? Cool. You pay me from 9-5, you make the rules from 9-5. Farg anyone who wants to tell me what I can or can't do when I'm off the clock.
My doctor knew I was a drinker by looking at some kind of liver enzyme in my regular blood test, so I'm sure they could do that pretty easily.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 21, 2013, 05:17:03 PM
My doctor knew I was a drinker by looking at my pink, spider-veined nose, so I'm sure they could do that pretty easily.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 21, 2013, 05:17:03 PM
My doctor knew I was a drinker by looking at the flask hanging out of my coat pocket.
This is non-fascist shtein I can support (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/opinion/two-paths-to-the-gradual-abolition-of-smoking.html)
good for them....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2014/02/05/cvs-to-stop-selling-tobacco-sacrificing-2-billion-in-sales-for-public-health-and-future-growth/
They're selling weed instead
smoke free since the super bowl. just now starting to not want to kill everyone.
baby steps.
congrats on not going on a killing spree.
Trying this quitting thing again. I've only ever made maybe 3 or 4 legitimate attempts at giving up Romes, none successful obviously. I'm still gay for Newports.
Trying the e-cigarette thing and going to gradually reduce the nicotine content as I go. I've only had 2 cigarettes in the last 48 hrs, which for me is a major accomplishment in and of itself. I also haven't bought cigarettes in about 3 weeks and have been bumming here and there....maybe 5 a day. There's a couple hundred bucks in my bank account right now that I'm not used to seeing. Nice.
nice.
i'm 7 months now. went 6 months cold turkey without a single one but over the last couple weeks bummed one like 3 different times when i had drunk nights. they pretty much grossed me out each time though, the smell kills me. not the smoke but the funk smell on my hands.
i do the e-cig deal too. look like a douche but it helps. i've also put on like 20 lbs since i quit.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 05, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
i've also put on like 20 lbs since i quit.
as far as cigarette company advertising goes you in the barkley jersey should be the new joe the camel
Lol.
Haven't had one now since somewhere between 7-8pm Friday night. I hit a wall yesterday right around 5pm and had some really bad withdrawals. Not so much nicotine, but just smoking....the taste, smell, etc. For about a half hour I was eye farging Squaw's pack of cigs like a hungry lion staring down an injured gazelle, but I made it through. I've never made it this long in any of my previous attempts to quit without at least taking a puff or 2 of a smoke. Feeling pretty good today though.
Hit a sauna, stare at some old man balls and sweat the rest out of your system.
I've been 5 years, 5 months or so now. I still miss it, but the struggle is long over. Just a sort of deep, permanent ache for the good 'ol days, when I could smoke freely, without thinking about how awful it is for my kids, my finances, etc. I love smoking cigarettes. I promised myself I could return to it when I'm old. That hope helps, though I'm fully aware I may never take myself up on the offer. Define old. Plus, I may not want to by then.
I tried every method available. What worked was cold turkey, and I didn't quit trying to quit. The law of averages is pretty strong. If you keep trying to quit, eventually, you'll succeed.
Good luck. If you lapse, enjoy one for me before trying again.
They have cigarette machines in heaven. Free. Stocked with Kools.
Hell is stocked with them too. Ironically, there's no matches to be found anywhere.