Did anyone ever find a way to figure where you are on the list?
:-D
I know.... :-\
they wont release the waiting list because its about 50,000 people less than they say it is
Wasn't it at least 2 seasons ago where they said they would announce a formal waiting list where you would know where you stood?
Thats why i ask, i responded to their email. It was setup thru ticketmaster somehow.
they wont list it because they dont want new season ticket holders, they want to sell any open tickets to Razorgater and net a huge profit.
I know I have signed up twice at some point. I have no clue if I'm actually on the list. I do remember at one point e-mailing the ticket office and asking and I got response back saying I was in fact on the list. So I guess I am? ???
Yeah I've been on this damn list since 2001 or 2002. Now that I actually have the money it would be really nice to know. Or at least know where I am on that imaginary list.
I guess the eagles will ahve to suck a few years before I get that chance.
Keep Reid!!
They briefly had a system you could log into to change your info, and they claimed they were going to send out where you were on the list. That never happened.
PM ttllabtoof for details.
No.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 23, 2007, 11:14:30 AM
Did anyone ever find a way to figure where you are on the list?
No. But I'm guesstimating that I am somewhere around 8,000, 20,000, and 65,000.
the reason there is no REAL WAITING LIST and NEVER WILL BE, friends and family! They get moved to the front of the line and you will never know it!
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on January 23, 2007, 06:18:00 PM
the reason there is no REAL WAITING LIST and NEVER WILL BE, friends and family! They get moved to the front of the line and you will never know it!
That, we know, is wrong. Its just not as long as they say it is. But there is a wait list.
Its just not as long as they say it is
what she says
they have unofficialy spewed all kinds of crazy numbers like 50,000 and upwards
its nowhere near that and if they release a list everyone will see they were lying...what they will do is when tickets become available...ie they suck for a few years...they will then probably release a list and claim that the reason it is so short is because they havent been that successful the past couple years
Have you ever heard the ticket office say those 60,000 numbers? Just asking because I've only ever seen it on boards and such.
no official press release or anything....but ive heard spads give numbers like that and also carlin in interviews has referenced outrageously high numbers like 50-75k
OK...I Had never read/heard it anywhere credible.
LOL...still haven't. :-D
Someone "on" the "waiting list" should call the ticket office and ask where they are on the list, and how long the list is.
I nominate Sarge.
^^^^
havent lots of people done that and they all get the same answer...like theyll get back to you or something to that effect
nobody knows if there is a list or how long it is. Anyone who says they know either of these things needs to show proof or end the talk about it. The Eagles should be ashamed of the way they handle things like this too. Another Gold Standard moment brought to you.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 08:28:57 AM
Someone "on" the "waiting list" should call the ticket office and ask where they are on the list, and how long the list is.
I nominate Sarge.
I would do it but since I've submitted my name for the list at least 3 times (I honestly think it 5 is more accurate), I don't want to call them and find my name on there multiple times and then remove my lowest positions, leaving me towards the end of the list. And I'm certain they'd do that too. Just to be dicks about it.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 08:28:57 AM
Someone "on" the "waiting list" should call the ticket office and ask where they are on the list, and how long the list is.
I nominate Sarge.
I've done that, probably 10 times in the past 3 years. And I have a roundabout connection to Leo Carlin...I have yet to get any kind of answer.
what do they say exactly
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 24, 2007, 09:33:07 AM
what do they say exactly
"Oh my God, it's an earthquake!"
Click.
:-D
I sent an e-mail through the "Contact Us" form on PE.com. I'm sure I'll get a full response very, very soon.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 09:35:56 AM
I sent an e-mail through the "Contact Us" form on PE.com. I'm sure I'll get a full response very, very soon.
it should say Contact Us....but dont expect a reply
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on January 24, 2007, 03:36:05 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 09:35:56 AM
I sent an e-mail through the "Contact Us" form on PE.com. I'm sure I'll get a full response very, very soon.
it should say Contact Us....but dont expect a reply
It (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/fanzone/contactus.jsp) does say that:
QuoteThe Philadelphia Eagles value your suggestions and feedback. We DO read each and every email message received. However, due to the current volume of messages it is not always possible to respond to each one.
That's flat-out farging bullshtein.
There is no way they can possibly read every e-mail message that hits their in-box.
C'mon - what do you thing Spads does all day?
I called them last night. They said I was fourth in line. I asked who were the first three, and they said PhillySportsNut, Sassy Sassum, and some guy named Dick Hertz.
lollerskates at this fat load of shtein:
QuoteUnfortunately there is no new information about your position on the waiting
list. We haven't contacted anyone on the waiting list and currently could
not tell you where you stand in relation to others or the wait time. The
period of time required to wait for season tickets on the waiting list
cannot be determined since year to year renewal rates of current season
ticket holders cannot be determined in advance. Thank you again for your
patience and you will be hearing from us as soon as we are given any new
information about your account. Thank you for your continued support and GO
EAGLES!!
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 25, 2007, 09:43:54 AM
Thank you for your continued support and GO
EAGLES!!
that shtein gets me fired up!
Quote from: SunMo on January 25, 2007, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 25, 2007, 09:43:54 AM
Thank you for your continued support and GO
EAGLES!!
that shtein gets me fired up!
To cheer the team on to victory? You really are a fan.
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There is no waiting list. I'm certain of that.
Yeah, they have a contact list (which they probably sell to anyone and everyone, btw) but a formal waiting list? No farging way.
I'm not really "concerned" because I already have tickets and will for the rest of my life, but it pisses me off none the less. I don't see why they have to lie, cover up or otherwise obfuscate about everything. Just tell us the truth and be done with it.
Eagles Waiting List = The Matrix
The Matrix is far more real.
farg. I took the blue pill. Now I'll never get in.
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I got a call today offering me a "tailgate package" because I'm a *valued* member of the season ticket waiting list.
My options:
For $2850 per person (not a misprint):
Quote* Mid-Level End Zone Seats for all Eagles home games. (section C-12)
* The Eagles Ultimate Tailgate Party before each Eagles home game in the Hall of Fame Club at Citizens Bank Park. Features a delicious all-you-can-eat buffet, beverage service (beer, wine, and soda), various entertainment, and a ticket to the Eagles game.
* Autograph sessions with Eagles Alumni.
* Appearances from Eagles Cheerleaders.
* Appearance from Eagles Mascot Swoop.
* Option to purchase playoff Tailgate Package at Playoff prices.
For $570 per person:
Quote*Ticket to Dec 30 game vs. Buffalo (ha!)
*Choice of any 1 of the 3 divisional home games
*Same stuff with the tailgate party/etc for the 2 games
*"gift" from the Eagles
For $285 per person, I can get the same package as just mentioned, but only with one game - choice of any of the NON-divisional games.
Meh.
How much would a simple ticket to each game cost?
$100
Anyone who's ever planning on getting season tickets directly from the Eagles is out of luck. I haven't heard of a single person who's been called from the waiting list and offered tickets at the standard rate. Every package that goes out now has the extra garbage thrown in.
It's amazing. Those fargers really have zesty memories. There were times during 1998 & 1999 that my brother couldn't give the tickets away and we ended up eating them and those tickets were excellent.
farging money-grubbing scum.
But I can party with the cheerleaders and Swoop for only $200 extra!
are the seats included in these "special packages" real seats....meaning not in suites or club areas...are they seats that people on the waiting list should have a chance at or are they super high priced seats that they cant sell on their own
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 23, 2007, 08:43:56 PM
are the seats included in these "special packages" real seats....meaning not in suites or club areas...are they seats that people on the waiting list should have a chance at or are they super high priced seats that they cant sell on their own
They're seats people on the list should have a chance at, best I can discern.
if thats true then they are farging iceholes
The funny thing is I remember when they sold the SBL's Banner insisted that none would ever be needed to be sold again.
Now you know why. Who needs SBL revenue when you can just charge $285 for a $75 ticket?
The prices are absolutely outlandish.
And, of course, when I asked the nice lady on the phone where I was in line, she didn't have that information.
When do single game tickets go on sale?
precisely 3 1/2 minutes before they're sold out
Nobody wants to go to the Dolphins game though so I feel good about my chances for getting those
they went on sale june 14th last year
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 24, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
they went on sale june 14th last year
I just called the ticket office about prices for their "Red Zone" seat package, which includes:
- Premium Season tickets in the first two rows in the north endzone
- Access to an pre-game buffet in the Diamond Club at Citizens Bank Park before every home game, featuring tailgate favorites and beverages (beer, wine, and soft drinks)
- Access to the "Red Zone Lounge" at halftime of each home game
- VIP pre-game sideline passes for two regular season games each season
- A VIP tour of Lincoln Financial Field each contract year
- An invitation to a VIP Training Camp luncheon
- Eagles Red Zone baseball caps, exclusive for Red Zone Seatholders
- The option to purchase choice seats to other great Lincoln Financial Field events
All this for the sum of $4250 per seat. I asked about single game seats & he said they should announce them for mid-June like last year.
Someone's gotta pay Kevin Curtis's signing bonus.
I just called the ticket office about prices for their "Red Zone" seat package, which includes:
Premium Season tickets in the first two rows in the north endzone
i dont have a big problem with that...they obviously from the jump off of the stadium planned on holding back the first two rows of the end zone for special package seats...i thought they were taking random seats that maybe season ticket holders didnt want anymore and instead of offering them to the waiting list they were keeping them and turning them into $4000 package seats
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 23, 2007, 06:25:26 PM
I got a call today offering me a "tailgate package" because I'm a *valued* member of the season ticket waiting list.
i left my cell phone at home today and just checked my messages and got the same call about "premium seats". so i guess i shouldn't call them back?
I've given up on the phantom waiting list. When it comes time for me to get season tickets then I'll buy 'em from someone.
It all depends on how much cheddar you're willing to give out.
The way I look at it...
finding a ticket for $100 and tailgating with Havas >>> $280 and tailgating at CBP
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 25, 2007, 12:42:40 PM
It all depends on how much cheddar you're willing to give out.
The way I look at it...
finding a ticket for $100 and tailgating with Havas >>> $280 and tailgating at CBP
haha IGY, your stuck with FF.
Ha! Hardly. I was just using IGY's setup as an example of a better party than whatever the Eagles are throwing.
The CF one is hit or miss. With MRE's and lots of cheap liquor, hit.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 25, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
Ha! Hardly. I was just using IGY's setup as an example of a better party than whatever the Eagles are throwing.
The CF one is hit or miss. With MRE's and lots of cheap liquor, hit.
I've actually found the CF tailgate one time out of 4 trys.
beats >>> your lives
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 23, 2007, 12:52:58 PM
PM ttllabtoof for details.
They banned that guy from this board. He was making way too much sense apparently and the overlords decided he couldn't post under that name anymore. Narrow thinkers apparently. After writing the Daily News article on the Eagles scalping their own tickets and receiving kickbacks from their new "partner" RazorGator. He has been busy following up with legislators.
There is no Waiting List. So anyone waiting for it or thinking it is going to ever happen you are dreaming.
Why would any one with tickets give them back when the Eagles are telling you to hold them and SCALP them? And if anyone was dumb enough to give them back they would go directly to RazorGator.
He has been on more open minded web sites still trashing the Eagle ticket policies:
http://www.thefootballpalace.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4775
He is also several different people on most boards including the Eagles very own where he was banned by Spadaro personally, so he generally is watching.
Keep an eye on The Daily News in June and Sports Ilustrated in July, for more stories on the corrupt ticket policies of the Eagles.
Here is one long time fan, rooting for a long string of losing seasons. They deserve it and maybe real fans can actually get tickets for themselves.
BOYCOTT ALL SCALPERS EAGLES FANS. IF WE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP FUNDING THEM WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM. ITS LIKE FEEDING THE PIGEONS.Hang in there, peace out
suck my satchel
paige.
Maybe it's just me but I missed this crazy farger. :-D
I love it how he's referring to himself as if he's another person and a persecuted one at that!
Rock on, you crazy psychotic mongoloid. Keep fighting the good fight. :yay
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 28, 2007, 10:30:33 AM
Maybe it's just me but I missed this crazy farger. :-D
I love it how he's referring to himself as if he's another person and a persecuted one at that!
Rock on, you crazy psychotic mongoloid. Keep fighting the good fight. :yay
I miss you too Jerome. I've been right on about the entire Eagles ticket office for 4 years. I love bashing those dirtbags.
And if you don't think that the Eagles know who I am and made sure I was kicked off their board you are just kidding yourself.
I am for the Eagles fans. And the more pressure that is put on them, the better the chance they will do what is right. One day, maybe. I doubt it. But karma is big time against them due to their money grubbing fan hating ways.
I laughed out loud when they blew another draft this year.
If its crazy to call out corruptness and the raping of my fellow fans, then call me crazy. I never actually got an explanation from my banning from this board. which is strange because it is one of the lowest level boards. Makes me think the Eagles have a hand in this board too.
Maybe I will post some of the Eagles emails to me, so all of the fans who really do care about getting tickets can see there is no chance.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 28, 2007, 11:20:02 AMif you don't think that the Eagles know who I am and made sure I was kicked off their board you are just kidding yourself.
.
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I never actually got an explanation from my banning from this board. which is strange because it is one of the lowest level boards. Makes me think the Eagles have a hand in this board too.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with you being an obnoxious spamming a-hole on both boards or anything...
Eamil to the Eagles Front Office:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I just went to your "Fan to Fan" Ticket Exchange. How do the Eagles justify giving scalpers a huge chunk of tickets to rape the real fans that what to see their team play? The only answer is kick back. How else do the Eagles explain one person having this kind of number of seats available FOR EVERY GAME?:
10 seats in 229 row 27
10 seats in 202 row 29
12 seats in 244 row 26
21 seats in 114 row 14
10 seats in 118 row 24
18 seats in 221 row 29
19 seats in 222 row 18
18 seats in pepsi row 10
22 seats in pepsi row 7
Too many examples to list. Your front office is a joke. It wouldn't take much to take these seats away from the scalpers and let real fans USE them. But your greed is obvious and probably the reason you have yet to win a Super Bowl and probably never will.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The Eagles reply:
That is not possible. These seats are in accounts of numerous personal season ticket holders as well as local radio stations. This person is obviously listing tickets that they don't have. There aren't even 21 seats in row 14 section 114. We only sell our tickets through Ticketmaster. Any other sales are not guaranteed authentic.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
My follow up (that went unreplied to, SHOCKING)
Not possible? These are listed on your "partner" RazorGator's site. Think you might do a little investigation instead of saying that it is not possibel? The seats are listed from one person, not multiple season ticket holders.
How ignorant are you people to think that entire rows of fans can't make every game? Hello?????
Are there 18 seats in 221 row 29 owned by one person??? 22 seats in Pepsi Row 7, can you look into that and see if you sold that entire block to one scalper who kicks back some of the profits, off the backs of fans who can't get season tickets. What about the 100s of other tickets on sale thru Razorgator, beside the large blocks I listed. Its not hard to figure this out. Stop acting like everything is on the up and up.
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 28, 2007, 11:23:45 AM
Yeah, it has nothing to do with you being an obnoxious spamming a-hole on both boards or anything...
Spamming??? I have fewer posts than anyone else on any of these boards. I don't make a living out of it like some of these losers who attack me.
Want to discuss it intelligently. I do that. Want to attack and say stupid crap, I can do that to.
You sound like a typical a-hole. Added nothing to the topic, just another non-thinking attack from someone who knows nothing about nothing.
Nicely done, you must be proud.
These will be in the articles, but since some of the fans here sound interested in the Wait List this is what I have mined from them.
Initial Inquiry:
When do we get the order for the Wait list, its well over a year overdo?
When do tickets that were either revoked or not bought again go out to the Wait List?
How many Club Level Seats open up per year?
Are the non-Club Club seats in the endzone going to be opened up for season tickets?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Eagles Ticket Office Reply:
Time on the waiting list depends on how many current season tickets holders decide not to renew their seats. It is possible that all of them could renew their seats and no one would come off the waiting list. When tickets become available to us we will contact the next person on the waitlist to see if they still wish to purchase tickets and will move down the list accordingly. Generally, club seats do not become available to members of the waiting list because almost the entire club section is seat licenses which means the individuals (not the Eagles) own the seats. If you have any more questions, then please let us know.
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Follow Up question (since they answered none of the initial questions)?
How do I know where I am on the list? How do you know you is first? I never received my position on the list.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From the Eagles:
I truly apologize for your discontent. The department working on the waiting list is doing its best to get as much information out to our members as quickly as possible. As the anticipation builds on another Eagles season, we understand that this can be a long and frustrating time for you, but please continue to be patient as the waiting list has reached well over 65,000 people. As far as we know, it is not likely that waiting list members will get an EXACT number as to where they stand. This is because members lower on the list may take their name off and also our available seats from year to year can never truly be predicted. Instead, you will receive a percentile that you fall into on the list. This way, an Eagles Ticket Office representative can be in contact with you as to the number of tickets you are requesting when your percentile comes up. So thank you again for your patience at such a busy time in our season. We appreciate your continued support for The Philadelphia Eagles.
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So there is an entire department working on the wait list of the last 5 years. They are apparnetly writing the list in chalk out in the parking lot, and every time it rains they need to start over. Farging liars. They have no idea when the list will be done, but they know its way more than 65,000 people. Funny, funny shtein.
Either they are the worst liars on the planet. Or they are the most incompetent front office in all of sports. Its a waiting list, for crying out loud. This unorganized method, may explain why we drafted a QB with our first pick this year.
worst. cause. ever.
The funny thing is everyone knows the Eagles are lying greedy scumbags yet this bunny with a flapjack on his head thinks he's alone in his disgust for them.
I love the fervor he posts with, though. Of all the things a person can rage against in this farged up world, this loon chooses the Eagles and their ticketing operation.
Darfur? Child's play.
Third world debt? Bah! Nonsense.
Global environmental degradation? Who cares!
THE EAGLES ARE SCAMMING CUSTOMERS OUT OF THEIR HARD-EARNED DOUGH! OMGSOUNDTHECLARIONS!! :-D
Actually, the ticket policy's around the NFL are basically the steriods of the NFL. Everyone knows they are backhanded and curupt. Every team does it. There is just no real evidence that the powers that be sanction it.
There are investigations going on, and this guy could be running a legit one. I do know of another.
I hope one succeeds. Doubt they will though.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 28, 2007, 01:26:29 AMHere is one long time fan, rooting for a long string of losing seasons. They deserve it and maybe real fans can actually get tickets for themselves.
Hang in there, peace out
This is a major league sports issue, not an Eagles-specific problem. The statement above proves that you are not only a narrow-minded, self-important douche bag, you are also a piece of shtein Eagles fan who should try focusing their attention on more fan-friendly sports like the WBNA or women's soccer.
As a non-season ticket holder, I hate the fact that the internet has now made it so easy for season ticket holders to unload their seats, that it makes no sense for them to not renew each year. If you have hard proof showing that the Eagles are funneling seats to Razorgator that should otherwise go to people on a waiting list, everyone on this board would be on your side. Otherwise, scalping is being promulgated by the same fans & corporate ticket holders who were scalping them via ticket agencies & brokers long before it became so easy on the internet.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 28, 2007, 01:26:29 AM.
He has been on more open minded web sites still trashing the Eagle ticket policies:
http://www.thefootballpalace.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4775
Referencing posts you made yourself on other message boards adds no credibility at all, especially referencing websites who list the following sponsors in their page header: Classictickets.com, Ticketliquidators.com, Hallmarktickets.cpom & Ticketkingonline.com. :-D
QuoteGuest 08:02:32 PM Viewing the topic Season Tickets eBay.
At least have balls enough to log in and show yourself, you Hoyda.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 28, 2007, 04:22:28 PM
This is a major league sports issue, not an Eagles-specific problem. The statement above proves that you are not only a narrow-minded, self-important douche bag, you are also a piece of shtein Eagles fan who should try focusing their attention on more fan-friendly sports like the WBNA or women's soccer.
As a non-season ticket holder, I hate the fact that the internet has now made it so easy for season ticket holders to unload their seats, that it makes no sense for them to not renew each year. If you have hard proof showing that the Eagles are funneling seats to Razorgator that should otherwise go to people on a waiting list, everyone on this board would be on your side. Otherwise, scalping is being promulgated by the same fans & corporate ticket holders who were scalping them via ticket agencies & brokers long before it became so easy on the internet.
You really need to stop attacking and try to understand the issue. While it is obvious you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, the 20 seats in one row thing should give you a really big clue. All being sold on RazorGator FOR EVERY game. That is proof. Either they are selling them straight away to a scalper who is obviously reselling them on RazorGator, or they are giving the directly to RazorGator.
Does it matter?????
Whether everyone on a message board is on my side is unimportant, couldn't give two shteins. Just bringing up the issue to have other fans contact me with more info on them to expose them even more.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 28, 2007, 04:37:53 PM
Referencing posts you made yourself on other message boards adds no credibility at all, especially referencing websites who list the following sponsors in their page header: Classictickets.com, Ticketliquidators.com, Hallmarktickets.cpom & Ticketkingonline.com. :-D
Nitwit. They are a national board. This board is a very small local board, just showing that the information is posted elsewhere.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 28, 2007, 08:06:12 PM
At least have balls enough to log in and show yourself, you Hoyda.
You are a very strange person. We have encountered each other over the last few years. When have I needed to hide or log on as a guest to state my position. No one hear scares me when it comes to a debate. Name calling yes, debate no.
MonkeyBrain actually wants more proof that something is wrong here. And is to scared or too clueless to speak up when something is wrong with his team.
I'll use numbers to clarify this issue for you:
1. RazorGator is paying the Eagles to advertise on their website.
2. The Eagles want to make money.
3. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of people who are season ticket holders who sell those tickets to scalpers.
4. This has been going on for decades and will continue to go on. There's nothing anyone can do about it. It's just a nature of the business.
5. The Eagles don't give a crap.
6. They Eagles still make money.
7. That stadium will be full of people, 99% of whom are Eagles fans.
8. That Eagles like to make money.
Quote from: MDS on May 29, 2007, 12:15:09 AM
I'll use numbers to clarify this issue for you:
1. RazorGator is paying the Eagles to advertise on their website.
2. The Eagles want to make money.
3. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of people who are season ticket holders who sell those tickets to scalpers.
4. This has been going on for decades and will continue to go on. There's nothing anyone can do about it. It's just a nature of the business.
5. The Eagles don't give a crap.
6. They Eagles still make money.
7. That stadium will be full of people, 99% of whom are Eagles fans.
8. That Eagles like to make money.
Just as I gave up on finding intelligent life forms here. I agree with everything you said. My problem is the Eagles could make just as much money AND take care of their fans, since three of your items are about the Eagles making money, I'm just going to count it as 6.
1. Getting into bed with a scalping site is wrong in my view. Pressure both legally and politically can change that. I can site examples were eBay was shut down for concert tickets by the simple boycott techniques used for years.
3. Selling to scalpers is fine, but if you have a supposed 65,000 waitlist, why not revoke those seats and give them to local fans? Is it that hard to find the guy they sold 20 tickets to in Row 4 of Section 206?? Maybe they could take the team of highly intelligent people working on the wait list and get them involved. Sure the Wait List will have to wait, but it really is irrelevant anyway.
4. It hasn't been going on for decades because the internet is the prime reason. 1000's of seats were never for sale because there was just no way to move them.
5. The eagles don't give a crap is the main reason I can't stand them. And another reason why I could care less if they win or lose anymore. Sure I watch them but the gold standard which has never won anything and treats the fan base as badly as we get treated, I am OK with them continually falling short.
7. The biggest mistaken belief out there. God people have short memories. Remember a long time ago in 2005. When the Eagles were horrible and since not only were the thousands of scalpers selling tickets but regular fans too (the Philly faithful). The Linc was half filled with Giants and taterskins fans. One of the coolest byproducts of the scalping age. So there is no where near 99% of the fans at ANY game, because the Skins, Boys and Giants all have large fan bases here and have taken over our stadium not even two years ago. It was embarrassing watching ESPN at all of the Red and Blue jerseys.
The taterskins cracked down on scalping just for that reason. Their STHs were smart enough to complain about different opposing fans sitting next to them. The Philly faithful jsut aren't that bright as a group. But I am guessing 3 or 4 years of losing football, some will get tired of scalpers filling our stadium with the OTHERS. Maybe the Eagles will even figure out by then it is better for 10 sons & fathers. best buddies or college buds in this area to have 2 tickets each and use them EVERY game, than one scalper in Texas having 20 seats together to sell. I hope they choke on their policies.
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You take being a whiney bitch to a new level. I blame your parents.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 29, 2007, 12:02:12 AM
You really need to stop attacking and try to understand the issue. While it is obvious you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, the 20 seats in one row thing should give you a really big clue. All being sold on RazorGator FOR EVERY game. That is proof. Either they are selling them straight away to a scalper who is obviously reselling them on RazorGator, or they are giving the directly to RazorGator.
Does it matter?????
Whether everyone on a message board is on my side is unimportant, couldn't give two shteins. Just bringing up the issue to have other fans contact me with more info on them to expose them even more.
:-D I have a hard time believing that you are this legitimately riled up about this issue. I have to believe that your reasons for pushing this are not motivated by wanting to "help the real fan" & are probably more selfish. I even suspect that you are probably a scalper yourself.
Ticket/travel agencies & brokers owned large blocks of seats way before the Linc was even built, so I can understand why there would be large blocks offered by the same seller. Why don't you have people you know buy these seats to see who the seller is? Maybe go to the game & ask the people in those seats where they got them from? Instead of flailing away with your impotent crusade on internet message boards, you should devote your energy petitioning your State Representative or Attorney General to outlaw scalping.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 29, 2007, 12:07:07 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 28, 2007, 08:06:12 PM
At least have balls enough to log in and show yourself, you Hoyda.
You are a very strange person. We have encountered each other over the last few years. When have I needed to hide or log on as a guest to state my position. No one hear scares me when it comes to a debate. Name calling yes, debate no.
Stop being a coward and log in, Tony. That way we can make fun of you directly instead of guessing which guest account you're viewing the board in.
Well this has been entertaining at least. Though it doesn't take much.
I don't really find this entertaining at all. The guy knows that no one here cares, yet he comes back anyway?
I could see if some people here were like "yeah!" and getting behind it....but obviously we all don't give a farg here, so move on to somewhere else please.
Quote from: Munson on May 29, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
I don't really find this entertaining at all. The guy knows that no one here cares, yet he comes back anyway?
this statement was dipped in irony and deep fried in cluelessness
Quote from: SunMo on May 29, 2007, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 29, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
I don't really find this entertaining at all. The guy knows that no one here cares, yet he comes back anyway?
this statement was dipped in irony and deep fried in cluelessness
and covered with a glaze of naivete.
this guy is correct in just about everything he says...one blatant mistake is saying how the taterskins have cut down on scalping...they have not at all...their tickets are extremely plentiful on ticket sits with brokers and in the gameday lot...anyway i personally think there needs to be more people who care as much as he does...i dont understand why everyone attacks him so much
i do wonder if this cat is as vigilent in real life as he is on internet message boards...but i do like the crusade in general
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2007, 07:06:52 PM
this guy is correct in just about everything he says...one blatant mistake is saying how the taterskins have cut down on scalping...they have not at all...their tickets are extremely plentiful on ticket sits with brokers and in the gameday lot...anyway i personally think there needs to be more people who care as much as he does...i dont understand why everyone attacks him so much
i do wonder if this cat is as vigilent in real life as he is on internet message boards...but i do like the crusade in general
Igy,
I don't think people are attacking the message as much as the delivery. This guy has been condescending from the beginning, and fairly one-track in his message. He's done precious little discussion of football issues and has been beating the proverbial dead horse.
I, however, will follow his example and refuse to buy a single Eagles ticket this year. I eagerly await to see what the Eagles do without my $0 this year.
to me he has a great message to deliver...his delivery doesnt bother me in the least but if it did id just ignore him...altho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than if no one said anything
ill enjoy following his quest and hope he actually makes a difference some day...tho i highly doubt it
Jesus Christ, IGY. Don't you get it? He doesn't have a quest. He's a troll, dude. Nothing more, nothing less.
If the guy was legitimate don't you think we'd be behind what he's saying? Other than the X-Files conspiracy crap he spews, he's spot on about the Eagles being corrupt and greedy. But that's not exactly "man bites dog" news now is it?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2007, 07:43:42 PM
to me he has a great message to deliver...his delivery doesnt bother me in the least but if it did id just ignore him...altho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than if no one said anything
ill enjoy following his quest and hope he actually makes a difference some day...tho i highly doubt it
I haven't really said anything. Since I live so far away and am a poor teacher, I haven't seen the Eagles live since the early 1990s, so it doesn't really apply to me. If I had the money, though, I'd probably pay the scalper prices to see a game in Philly. I can see his point, but until a) a government/law enforcement agency or the nfl steps in to declare the situation legally questionable, or b) it starts actually costing the team money because of a boycott of some sort, I cannot see the situation changing.
When the Eagles come to Miami again, I want to go. I want to party with Romey. :D Two nearly middle-aged guys on South Beach - WOOT!
I bought tickets to the MInny game for a bunch of us CFers from a scalper. And I'm buying some for the NYG game in NY.
I don't give a shtein where I get tickets - i f I can afford them and they seem like a decent value to me, then I'm buying them.
Ha.
Jesus Christ, IGY. Don't you get it? He doesn't have a quest. He's a troll, dude. Nothing more, nothing less.
im not saying he isnt...i mentioned he possibility of it...but you have no proof that he is...just because he posts on this subject over and over doesnt mean he doesnt believe in the cause...and even if he doesnt why would it ever bother you...the message seperate from the poster is right on....and thats enough for me
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2007, 07:43:42 PM
to me he has a great message to deliver...his delivery doesnt bother me in the least but if it did id just ignore him...altho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than if no one said anything
ill enjoy following his quest and hope he actually makes a difference some day...tho i highly doubt it
altho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than
if no one said anythingaltho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than
if no one said anythingaltho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than
if no one said anythingaltho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than
if no one said anythingaltho his fan club does keep his crusade at the top of of the board far longer than
if no one said anything
i hope he dies in a car wreck on christmas eve
I am amused by his lack of social skills. The dude bursts in, gets everybody all wound up, and then when nobody will drop down and blow him, he gets all outraged and storms off.
Classic.
I should change all those meta tags that say "come in and talk down to us, we'll suck you dry afterwards."
IGY doesn't think ttllabtoof's an attention whoring troll.
:-D
your incessant whining about him is far more attention drawing than anything hes ever said...hes dropping jewels in your dome that you can either share with others or not...make your choice and please stop being a little bitch about it
plus how can you not like someone named tee tee la boof
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 29, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
I'm not saying he isnt...i mentioned he possibility of it...but you have no proof that he is...just because he posts on this subject over and over doesnt mean he doesnt believe in the cause...and even if he doesnt why would it ever bother you...the message seperate from the poster is right on....and thats enough for me
I'm sure that dude believes in his cause. The problem is that he is psychotic & I don't mean that in the lame message board smack sense either.
How is his message "right on"? Everyone here can agree that we don't like scalping, the Eagles ticket office is not organized, choosing Razorgator as an advertising partner was not a good marketing move & that the internet has made it easier for season ticket holders to dump their tickets, thereby not giving them reason to not renew.
His main argument is that the Eagles are funneling tickets meant for those on the waiting list to Razorgator instead & receiving a piece of the profits. Both of those statements have not been proven and are part of his paranoid psychosis. When you tell him that his theory is unproven, he claims you are unintelligent & a Lurie lapper. Hey, if he can prove that, I'll walk down Broad St with him carrying a pitchfork too, but right now it's pure conjecture being spouted by a guy that's not right in the head to begin with.
If he really wants to effect change, he needs to address the scalping problem with the State Attorney General, not create some kind of unproven conspiracy crusade through message boards. As I said to him earlier, it's a major league sports issue, not an Eagles specific issue.
Beermonkey=Truth
His main argument is that the Eagles are funneling tickets meant for those on the waiting list to Razorgator instead & receiving a piece of the profits.
whether its direct funneling or not is kind of irrelevant...the eagles are partnered with razor gator and are allowing huge blocks of tickets to be scalped on its site and doing nothing about it
however if i get caught scalping tickets in the parking lot or on ebay or in the newspaper then i lose my season tickets on the spot
they also have still not published an official waiting list...ive yet to see a single person on said waiting list come out and say they got tickets...the eagles do not have a 100% renewal rate on season tickets...no one does....perhaps there are people out there that were on the waiting list and now have season tickets and we just havent heard from them...however i tend to believe that any tickets the eagles do come upon go to razorgator and/or these $4500 special package seats or whatever they are
do i have direct proof of this happening no...but the whole razorgator thing is enough for me to believe theyd do that in a heartbeat
and for the record they are far from the only team that does this kind of garbage...but myself and tee tee dont care about other teams
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2007, 01:18:01 PM
your incessant whining about him is far more attention drawing than anything hes ever said...hes dropping jewels in your dome that you can either share with others or not...make your choice and please stop being a little bitch about it
plus how can you not like someone named tee tee la boof
I'm making fun of him. I've been making fun of him for over a year now.
You, on the other hand, are too farging stupid to recognize that he has no real interest in this issue other than riling up people on a message board. Come to think of it, that's precisely your function here, so it doesn't surprise me in the least that you'd agree with him or support his "cause."
yeah thats how i formulate my thoughts and opinions...in fact thats how i live my entire life...by what i think will most piss you off
get over yourself
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2007, 01:46:07 PM
whether its direct funneling or not is kind of irrelevant...the eagles are partnered with razor gator and are allowing huge blocks of tickets to be scalped on its site and doing nothing about it
however if i get caught scalping tickets in the parking lot or on ebay or in the newspaper then i lose my season tickets on the spot
That's a question I have yet to see answered by anyone directly. For a few years I was getting my tickets from an agency that owned huge blocks of seats at the Vet & subsequently at The Linc. They used to charge me about a 300% markup & I could never understand why that was legal.
I called that agency today & found that you have to be licensed by the state to sell tickets above face. I would assume that these websites are either licensed or since they are sitused outside the state, they are legally able to resell tickets. Due to the high risk of counterfeit tickets/payments, scalping by unlicensed individuals on E-bay & outside the stadium is illegal, which is why it's part of the policy printed on the tickets.
Scalping by licensed agents is legal in PA and therefore the Razorgator marketing partnership is not in violation of the Eagles no scalping policy, designed to deter scalping by non-licensed individuals.
While I don't like it, these websites are legal & are going to thrive regardless of whether NFL teams form ad partnerships with them or not. The teams are probably thinking the same thing, so they are going to at least make some money off their ad revenues.
Direct funneling of non-renewed season tickets to these agencies is completely relevant, as it takes this issue from being an unpopular, yet legal partnership, to an arrangement that is unethical & possibly illegal. IMO, I don't think the Eagles are doing this, because the small profit they would generate in comparison to what they earn via other partnerships, is not worth the risk.
If teeteelafoofoo can uncover this conspiracy, I'll carry his squirrely ass on my shoulders to the court room.
i guess what im saying is the eagles allowing razorgator to mark up huge blocks of tickets on their site IS funneling tickets...they know about and are in bed with it and yet still allow it....but just because they didnt physically hand them the tickets to do it makes it not so bad??....i dont buy that
and i dont a flying farg about state county city township or even any federal scalping laws...it should be against eagle laws to allow scalping...its one thing to not enforce this but to actually be in bed with it and then perpetrate the fraud that is the waiting list....its sickening and if they would do all that right IN YOUR FACE how could you think they wouldnt directly funnel tickets to razor gator...thats not a huge leap...
seems to me to say that youll only really care about this issue is if you can be shown direct funneling is going on is pretty disingenious imo...or maybe you just dont care that much about it...which is cool...im not trying to pretend that i lose sleep over all this...but you cant say youd storm the linc if there was evidence of direct funneling and at the same time not really care about what is going on now
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
seems to me to say that youll only really care about this issue is if you can be shown direct funneling is going on is pretty disingenious imo...or maybe you just dont care that much about it...which is cool...im not trying to pretend that i lose sleep over all this...but you cant say youd storm the linc if there was evidence of direct funneling and at the same time not really care about what is going on now
You're right, I don't really care about this issue that much because this is the same type of scalping that has been handled by licensed ticket agencies/brokers long before these type of sites popped. Not saying it's right but it exists & it's something that we have to deal with. Before now, fans would sell their unused tickets to ticket brokers, who would perform the same function that Stubhub does now. I'm not advocating it, just saying that what they are doing is legal & it is just a different face for what existed already. It's also a face that the Eagles can get ad revenue from & whether they are "going to be in bed with them" or not, they are going to be there. Nothing has changed & I still need to buy my tickets from a third-party the same as I did in the 90's. Only now I'm doing it via the internet, instead of going to a business place.
Having the Eagles provide unrenewed season tickets to these sites instead of the waiting list is something totally new & I would have a problem with, which is hardly hypocritical.
QuoteHaving the Eagles provide unrenewed season tickets to these sites instead of the waiting list is something totally new & I would have a problem with, which is hardly hypocritical.
They're already taking seats that go unrenewed and placing them in the "VIP" pool which requires you to purchase the $285 tickets with all the bullshtein no one wants.
I have a problem with that as well. But you know what... I don't own the Eagles, so what's the point of me getting infuriated over something I have no control over?
I heard the Eagles drafted a QB and are going to trade McNabb.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 28, 2007, 04:22:28 PM
If you have hard proof showing that the Eagles are funneling seats to Razorgator that should otherwise go to people on a waiting list.......
Sorry, I have to catch up on all of the cheap shots and unintelligent comments, I've been away for a few days.
But since some people were still looking for proof. RazorGator is now selling 20 standing room only tickets for the Eagles home opener. There are 4 different auctions already for SRO tickets.
Did SRO tickets go on sale already and I missed it???? NOPE. Funnel, sell and under the table payback. And repeat.
You think the Waiting List people might have been interested in some of those seats? Oh by the way the SRO's face was like $50 or $60 last season. On the EAGLES PARTNER site, you can grab one from $146-$170 EACH.
I for one am fascinated. Bump bump bump!
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 29, 2007, 10:06:15 AM
I have a hard time believing that you are this legitimately riled up about this issue. I have to believe that your reasons for pushing this are not motivated by wanting to "help the real fan" & are probably more selfish.
Instead of flailing away with your impotent crusade on internet message boards, you should devote your energy petitioning your State Representative or Attorney General to outlaw scalping.
I really am all that riled up. It all started a few years ago when the girl who delivers my mail said she really wanted to go to a game but the prices were absurd. As I started to look into the issue more and more things started happening.
1. The wait list fiasco
2. The RazorGator connection
3. The Daily News story
I have already been in contact with Arlen Spector, the Gov and a few members of city council.
WHY????? You may ask. Cause I love going to games and think that fathers and sons should be able to get tickets from the Eagles at face. Because I find it disgusting that the Eagles would spit in the faces of all the people on the wait list and still deal rows of tickets to scalpers.
That's why. Joe Banner was actually insulted when he was asked about it, like the Eagles have to god given right to screw the fans whenever they can.
Most people send me PMs or emails and ask if they can help or what else I have figured out. I just play with the message board members who just want to attack. It is a real issue and when I see all of those OTHER team jerseys in our stadium, it pisses me off.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 29, 2007, 07:55:38 PM
Jesus Christ, IGY. Don't you get it? He doesn't have a quest. He's a troll, dude. Nothing more, nothing less.
Weren't you the same guy Jerome, that called me a liar when I told you I was helping to write an article for the Daily News last year BEFORE it came out.
I ended up getting cover, how cool was that. Want a copy, I bought a bunch. And it looks like it is going to become a yearly thing, especially with the SRO tickets already being out there. Can't wait to see how Banner gets offended this year.
What I can't understand is how all of YOU ATTACKERS are so in favor of the Eagles screwing your fellow fans. hat to me is amazing.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 29, 2007, 07:55:38 PM
Jesus Christ, IGY. Don't you get it? He doesn't have a quest. He's a troll, dude. Nothing more, nothing less.
Weren't you the same guy Jerome, that called me a liar when I told you I was helping to write an article for the Daily News last year BEFORE it came out.
I ended up getting cover, how cool was that. Want a copy, I bought a bunch. And it looks like it is going to become a yearly thing, especially with the SRO tickets already being out there. Can't wait to see how Banner gets offended this year.
What I can't understand is how all of YOU ATTACKERS are so in favor of the Eagles screwing your fellow fans. hat to me is amazing.
HAT TO ME!
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 30, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
I am amused by his lack of social skills. The dude bursts in, gets everybody all wound up, and then when nobody will drop down and blow him, he gets all outraged and storms off.
Classic.
Its called "work' and some of us have to do it and do not live for posting. I never get outraged. I love a good verbal joust. And I see some people starting to see the message thru all of the ridiculous attacks and non-sensical remarks from the regulars.
"Die in a car crash"....funny stuff. Big time loser that dude is.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 30, 2007, 01:31:39 PM
His main argument is that the Eagles are funneling tickets meant for those on the waiting list to Razorgator instead & receiving a piece of the profits. Both of those statements have not been proven and are part of his paranoid psychosis.
Boy you must be hating the SRO tickets out there already. Paranoid, huh.
I love being right.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 30, 2007, 03:47:39 PM
If teeteelafoofoo can uncover this conspiracy, I'll carry his squirrely ass on my shoulders to the court room.
You can just walk next to me, no need to carry me.
Do you have an excuse or explanation as to how unreleased SRO tickets (20 from one guy) ended up on RazorGator already?
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 30, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
i guess what im saying is the eagles allowing razorgator to mark up huge blocks of tickets on their site IS funneling tickets...they know about and are in bed with it and yet still allow it....but just because they didnt physically hand them the tickets to do it makes it not so bad??....i dont buy that
I appreciate the support. Not many people will actually think about the issue and come down on the right side on a message board.
Too many people think it is their job to label people hungry hungry hippos, paranoid, scared, yabedy, yabedy, yabedy
Stay low though, they just mght turn on you.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 30, 2007, 05:33:44 PM
I have a problem with that as well. But you know what... I don't own the Eagles, so what's the point of me getting infuriated over something I have no control over?
There's your base problem. And the difference between you and me.
I see a disgustingly smug organization that labels itself the Gold Standard, and then goes out of its way to screw fans that do not have tickets and want them, and I write articles, emails to the team, politicians, to whoever can help.
You sit back and type shots at people who do care.
But I've known that for years. Everyone else though is getting to see it firsthand. I don't hold it against you. Like that other fella said, I can go away for a few days and you guys keep my posts right at the top.
why do you keep saying you've been away for a few days? you posted like 5 times yesterday.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 30, 2007, 03:47:39 PM
Scalping by licensed agents is legal in PA and therefore the Razorgator marketing partnership is not in violation of the Eagles no scalping policy, designed to deter scalping by non-licensed individuals.
So you see that the anti-scalping stance isn't about doing right or wrong to the fans. It's about getting revenue. Pretty much what you'd expect from a profit-making business.
QuoteIf teeteelafoofoo can uncover this conspiracy, I'll carry his squirrely ass on my shoulders to the court room.
I'm sure he'll uncover it by spewing on message boards.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 30, 2007, 08:25:59 PM
[I'm sure he'll uncover it by spewing on message boards.
Its cats like you that are indeed clueless and have nothing intelligent to say EVER. Keep up the good work.
I don't believe I was addressing you, sir.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 30, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
I don't believe I was addressing you, sir.
MY bad. Oh wait you did with the spewing line. YOUR bad.
That was Beermonkey's post I was referring to, sport.
Please keep in mind that you're on a short leash here. I suggest that you try and keep your composure, or find someplace else to rouse the rabble.
The lying, psychotic, bipolar retard who keeps insisting he's vehemently against scalpers actually purchased single-game tickets last year and scalped them.
He has season tickets yet purchased them with the intent of selling them for a profit. It's all right here in this thread. (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=356553&hl=ttllabtoof&st=0)
Go away, shteinbag.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 30, 2007, 10:16:10 PM
The lying, psychotic, bipolar retard who keeps insisting he's vehemently against scalpers actually purchased single-game tickets last year and scalped them.
He has season tickets yet purchased them with the intent of selling them for a profit. It's all right here in this thread. (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=356553&hl=ttllabtoof&st=0)
Once again completed wrong, Jerome. But you are learning. Where in this entire thread did I say I was against scalpers?
I am against the Eagles selling tickets to scalpers to resell to the fans. Which part of that do you not understand?
Try to pay attention.
He's not against scalpers. He's only against the Eagles selling to scalpers.
Didn't the Eagles sell you tickets which you then scalped? So in essence, you're mad at the Eagles for selling you, a scalper, tickets you then made a profit on.
Yeah, you're not bipolar or psychotic. Not at all.
:-D
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 07:17:00 PMI really am all that riled up. It all started a few years ago when the girl who delivers my mail said she really wanted to go to a game but the prices were absurd. As I started to look into the issue more and more things started happening.
I have already been in contact with Arlen Spector, the Gov and a few members of city council.
WHY????? You may ask. Cause I love going to games and think that fathers and sons should be able to get tickets from the Eagles at face. Because I find it disgusting that the Eagles would spit in the faces of all the people on the wait list and still deal rows of tickets to scalpers.
That's why. Joe Banner was actually insulted when he was asked about it, like the Eagles have to god given right to screw the fans whenever they can.
More power to you... you nutty farg. ;D
I'm one of those poor schlubs that's got to beg, borrow & steal to find reasonable single game tickets until the time I can hide enough money from my wife to buy PSLs. ;) So, if you can uncover the Eagles scam to keep tickets from the "average joes", fight on my bipolar friend, though you may want to change your approach.
I'm just saying that not much is different from the way that it always was (not that it is good), just that the internet has made it more visible.
In regards to the SRO seats, why do you assume that I believe the Eagles are innocent? You seem like an intelligent guy, why don't you investigate who they actually belong to & e-mail them as to why they have them available so soon? Assumptions such as your's would work on WIP, but wouldn't fly in court.
As far as your comments about your posts being "kept up top", a homeless guy farging an old diaper will draw a crowd, but it doesn't make diaper-farging an art form.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 30, 2007, 09:26:48 PM
That was Beermonkey's post I was referring to, sport.
Please keep in mind that you're on a short leash here. I suggest that you try and keep your composure, or find someplace else to rouse the rabble.
"I'm sure he'll uncover it by spewing on message boards."
I thought this reference by you was in reference to me, if it wasn't then since it was directly under a quote which included a screwed up version of my old username, then I totally misread it.
I find it interesting that all of the attacks on me and the absolutely uncalled for comments, didn't receive the "short leash" comment. It would seem thru all of the attacks I am one of the few people who keeps their composure.
You would think the clown with the "die in a car crash" comment would be on a short leash. Some really serious rabble rousing there to clean up.
Sport, huh? I like it.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 10:38:20 PM
You would think the clown with the "die in a car crash" comment would be on a short leash. Some really serious rabble rousing there to clean up.
Hell, you should see what people say when they don't actually like you.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 30, 2007, 10:35:03 PM
Yeah, you're not bipolar or psychotic. Not at all.
Dude, I am running circles around you in logic here. Stop, besides the name calling you have got nothing. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
Quote from: phattymatty on May 30, 2007, 07:53:50 PM
why do you keep saying you've been away for a few days? you posted like 5 times yesterday.
It was a matter of hours to you & I, but it was days in Wonkaland.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 30, 2007, 10:37:27 PM
In regards to the SRO seats, why do you assume that I believe the Eagles are innocent? You seem like an intelligent guy, why don't you investigate who they actually belong to & e-mail them as to why they have them available so soon? Assumptions such as your's would work on WIP, but wouldn't fly in court.
I like how you slip all of those shots in there while kind of complementing me. Kudos to you.
SRO tickets showing up months before they go on sale is solely a sign of guilt in public opinion. This will never go to court. But enough people on the radio and on TV (say a spot on ESPN....hint, hint) and the Eagles just might change they ways.
Glen Mac was very interested in the topic last summer and I am sure he will be in this stuff too.
I will be calling Leo C tomorrow and asking him how tickets that haven't been put on sale are for sale on their Partner's site, at a number 5 times the number people were able to get last year. Simple stuff.
1. You bought tickets for the sole reason to resell for a profit.
2. You're angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers. You're a scalper.
What am I missing here, Tony?
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 30, 2007, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on May 30, 2007, 07:53:50 PM
why do you keep saying you've been away for a few days? you posted like 5 times yesterday.
It was a matter of hours to you & I, but it was days in Wonkaland.
I tried to let that other clown slide but since my last post was on Monday afternoon and I was in central PA Monday night, Tuesday and today on site. It would have been impossible for me to of posted yesterday. He must be doing some heavy shrooms and the MonkeyDude shared them.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 30, 2007, 10:48:36 PM
What am I missing here, Tony?
A ton, but without rewriting all of the other posts pointing out the entire rows and the SROs on sale already. If you don't get it by now you never will. Its a damn shame. Now go away, Jerome.
Bleh. Can the season start please.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 10:46:38 PM
SRO tickets showing up months before they go on sale is solely a sign of guilt in public opinion. This will never go to court. But enough people on the radio and on TV (say a spot on ESPN....hint, hint) and the Eagles just might change they ways.
Glen Mac was very interested in the topic last summer and I am sure he will be in this stuff too.
I will be calling Leo C tomorrow and asking him how tickets that haven't been put on sale are for sale on their Partner's site, at a number 5 times the number people were able to get last year. Simple stuff.
Please let us know how that call goes then, but you may want to check with the seller, and not Leo Carlin, as to the source of the tickets first. Once you identify the source, it would make your investigation & questioning of the ticket office more insightful & more likely to be taken seriously.
Don't assume that we don't want the truth.
From Wikipedia...
QuoteCognitive dissonance is a psychological term which describes the uncomfortable tension that comes from holding two conflicting thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts with one's beliefs. More precisely, it is the perception of incompatibility between two cognitions, where "cognition" is defined as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions. Experiments have attempted to quantify this hypothetical drive. Some of these examined how beliefs often change to match behavior when beliefs and behavior are in conflict.
Fascinating. Just fascinating. I want to hear more!
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 10:38:20 PM
I find it interesting that all of the attacks on me and the absolutely uncalled for comments, didn't receive the "short leash" comment. It would seem thru all of the attacks I am one of the few people who keeps their composure.
You also seem to be the single common element in all the annoying arguments. Not just here, either. I've seen your act here before, as well as on other message boards, and your act is getting tired. We get your points, and we may even agree with you on some of them...but I just suggest you let the facts stand for themselves and try to do a little less arguing. And maybe take yourself a little less seriously, as well.
Anyway, back on point, I'm curious about Jerome's assertion that you are making a profit from selling tickets. Are these tickets you wouldn't otherwise use yourself? Did you get them with the intention of reselling them for a profit?
once he said that it was his mail carrier that started this i immediately understood what was going on.
i, for one, have murdered for my mail carrier, they are that important.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 31, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
Anyway, back on point, I'm curious about Jerome's assertion that you are making a profit from selling tickets. Are these tickets you wouldn't otherwise use yourself? Did you get them with the intention of reselling them for a profit?
Here's a direct quote from ttllabtoof:
Quotettllabtoof
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Obviously I have used too many big words for you.
AS LONG AS THE EAGLES IGNORE AND SCALP TICKETS THEMSELVES, I WILL TOO. BUT FOR THE GOOD OF ALL LOCAL FANS, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THEM REVOKE SCALPED TICKETS. THAT WOULD INCLUDE ME TOO.
AND I DO NOT LIVE IN PA, SO PA LAW DOESN'T APPLY.
Sorry, you did all that typing and all you did was make yourself look like a bigger arse.
He still hasn't explained why he's angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers (him) yet he's not angry at the scalpers themselves.
The line immediately following the larger text explains his bipolarism pretty succintly, though.
Doode's a mess.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 10:53:32 PM
I tried to let that other clown slide but since my last post was on Monday afternoon and I was in central PA Monday night, Tuesday and today on site. It would have been impossible for me to of posted yesterday. He must be doing some heavy shrooms and the MonkeyDude shared them.
i'm pretty sure the 29th is one day before the 30th, but what do i know.
i cant speak for tee tee
and i personally would never scalp an eagles ticket however scalpers serve a purpose on an individual game basis...scalping tickets in the parking lot is as old as the forward pass...the individual ticket holder who wants to take advantage of an open market on occasion i have no problem with
but when you have a supposed 60k person waiting list and theres people who own 20 seat blocks of tickets and are selling them for every game at a 300% mark up on a site you partner with then something is wrong
how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"
Quote from: phattymatty on May 31, 2007, 09:06:31 AM
Quote from: crabby102 on May 30, 2007, 10:53:32 PM
I tried to let that other clown slide but since my last post was on Monday afternoon and I was in central PA Monday night, Tuesday and today on site. It would have been impossible for me to of posted yesterday. He must be doing some heavy shrooms and the MonkeyDude shared them.
i'm pretty sure the 29th is one day before the 30th, but what do i know.
And being in Central PA, I can vouch for the fact that we do, indeed, have internet access here.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
He still hasn't explained why he's angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers (him) yet he's not angry at the scalpers themselves.
Because, he is pissed off that he doesn't get a shot at more inventory. He can't scalp them if they are sold directly to the ticket brokers...
I said it before - this guy might just be a troll, but I think it is more likely that he has some other agenda. For all we know, he works for StubHub, and is pissed that the Eagles are advertising with the competition.
I agree with IGY - season tickets should be for fans, not brokers. I don't think any individual should hold the rights for more than 4 season tickets. I think what IGY proposes for monitoring EBay et al is perfectly reasonable. Unfortunately this yahoo doesn't propose solutions, he doesn't engage in conversation, and doesn't participate in any meaningful way in this forum except for his out of control rants and useless rally cries.
Go away troll. We heard your message, some of us agree with some of your points, but your obsession is way out of control and I for one am bored with it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 09:13:20 AM
i cant speak for tee tee
and i personally would never scalp an eagles ticket however scalpers serve a purpose on an individual game basis...scalping tickets in the parking lot is as old as the forward pass...the individual ticket holder who wants to take advantage of an open market on occasion i have no problem with
but when you have a supposed 60k person waiting list and theres people who own 20 seat blocks of tickets and are selling them for every game at a 300% mark up on a site you partner with then something is wrong
how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"
I don't disagree with you at all, IGY. I share your frustration with the Eagles (or all the other franchises that do it) looking the other way when brokers - or whoever - move large blocks of tickets. But that's as far as I'll go. I really don't think the franchises have a financial relationship with the brokers, other than a basic advertising agreement.
Agreed - why would the Eagles need a middle-man when they can sell these outrageous VIP packages? And you know damn well that they will all be sold.
I really don't think the franchises have a financial relationship with the brokers, other than a basic advertising agreement.
what?....having an advertising agreement is a financial relationship...and having this relationship clearly could and probably does open all kinds of other arrangements with the two parties...do you know all the fine print thats included in the eagle/razorgator contract...or do you trust joe banner that its strictly an advertising relationship...because the eagles are having trouble finding advertising partners right?...it was razorgator or bust
i cant believe you could possibly condone a front office and a ticket agency having a relationship of any kind....especially when you refuse to show the fans this 60k person waiting list you brag about all the time
i guess its because you have tickets and just dont care about the people who dont...however it makes me sick that there are live and die eagle fans on the waiting list getting strung along while razorgator is selling off blocks of seats to visitng team fans
but for a second lets leave the eagle razorgator communion out of it...were they to have no realtionship and razorgator had these blcoks of tickets on the site id still be furious with the front office...as i said above it would be ridiculously easy to pull those tickets from them and in turn the ticket owner...and as far as im concerned the reason they dont is because they are in bed together...if the eagles or other fans get offended by that then all the team has to do is end their partneship with rg
if lil sus couldnt make a game one week and you wanted to recoup some money i would have absolutely no problem with you scalping your ticket...thats what capitalism is all about...but from the waiting list debacle to the razorgator thing it all just stinks and the eagles cant smell it because of the blocks of tickets being sold right under their nose
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 31, 2007, 10:33:20 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 09:13:20 AM
i cant speak for tee tee
and i personally would never scalp an eagles ticket however scalpers serve a purpose on an individual game basis...scalping tickets in the parking lot is as old as the forward pass...the individual ticket holder who wants to take advantage of an open market on occasion i have no problem with
but when you have a supposed 60k person waiting list and theres people who own 20 seat blocks of tickets and are selling them for every game at a 300% mark up on a site you partner with then something is wrong
how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"
I don't disagree with you at all, IGY. I share your frustration with the Eagles (or all the other franchises that do it) looking the other way when brokers - or whoever - move large blocks of tickets. But that's as far as I'll go. I really don't think the franchises have a financial relationship with the brokers, other than a basic advertising agreement.
I agree also. I don't like the way the current market for tickets is structured either & the Eagles have some valid fan questions that need to be answered, or their will be 1000's of toofballs running around Philly. Once single game tickets go on sale in June, the following are going to be issues:
1) Is the waiting list real or is a marketing list disguised?
2) How many season tickets went unrenewed? Where where these seats then allocated?
3) I also would like to know why 20 SRO seats are already available on a number of ticket websites.
I'm not sure if it's as easy as it seems to police ticket websites & pull the seats from the offenders. I'd like to hear the Eagles thoughts on it though. I assume the Eagles, like most major league franchises, need to sell them to a mix of individuals, corporations & ticket agencies, then let the market set the prices for the tickets. As long as the seats are sold, it doesn't matter who is buying them. Bulking up the ticket office staff to enforce a new policy, then possibly having to deal with any legal fallout, is an administrative problem that they wouldn't want to deal with.
As far as I know about the VIP packages, they have Red Zone & Touchdown club packages that are in either section 101 at the 50 yd line or the first 2 rows of the north end zone. I have no problem with them trying to packages these as a premium experience. What I'd like to know more about & may have a problem with, is where the seats included in the "Ultimate Tailgate" package are coming from.
Bulking up the ticket office staff to enforce a new policy, then possibly having to deal with any legal fallout, is an administrative problem that they wouldn't want to deal with.
i have a 9-5 (granted not a busy one) and in two hours i could probably collect every seat location and account information for these blocks of tickets...it would hardly be a bulking up the office...one full time 30k a year employee could do it...use some of that unused cap money to pay for a ticket enforcement program
if they can take my season tickets away because someone smoked a cigarette in one of the seats or i got caught scalping them in the lot or my tickets were found in a scalpers hands then the eagles could certainly take away tickets on rg or ebay that are going for three times the price....and if they cant because of some contract they have with the ticket holder or the ticket broker then thats because they put that language there themselves...the team IS the law when it coems to scalping tickets...they could at the drop of dime end most of this...they just choose not too...and unless someone can come up with a better reason its because of the money they make off it in addition to a complete disregard for their fans
Quoteits because of the money they make off it in addition to a complete disregard for their fans
Can you remember a time that they ever truly gave a shtein about the fans? Ever??
Quote from: Cerevant on May 31, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
Agreed - why would the Eagles need a middle-man when they can sell these outrageous VIP packages? And you know damn well that they will all be sold.
Bingo.
Can you remember a time that they ever truly gave a shtein about the fans? Ever??
no....but i can still be upset about it
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 11:49:52 AM
Can you remember a time that they ever truly gave a shtein about the fans? Ever??
no....but i can still be upset about it
I don't see why. You have to realize at least on some level that you're nothing but a number to them, right?
I arrived at the conclusion that the Eagles couldn't care less about me years ago. The only thing they want from me is my $1,500 by the due date. If they don't get it, they'll rejoice because my tickets would bring 4 times that if they rolled them into one of their VIP packages.
Philosophically I can see feeling slighted because no one deserves to be treated with contempt, but hey, that's just the world we live in. Most corporations farg us up the ass any chance they get. Why should a billion-dollar concern like the Eagles be any different?
treating people like a number is one thing...being shady about it and/or straight up lying to peoples faces is a whole nother
If they've engaged in illegal activities then they should be held accountable. They do lie to us all the time, though, and it's not too difficult to cite examples.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
treating people like a number is one thing...being shady about it and/or straight up lying to peoples faces is a whole nother
What are they lying about?
the waiting list?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 11:46:34 AM
Can you remember a time that they ever truly gave a shtein about the fans? Ever??
Hoagiegate?
Quote from: SunMo on May 31, 2007, 12:04:15 PM
the waiting list?
They probably are. I thought IGY was referencing UFOs.
I am so in love with you guys right now.
What are they lying about?
see sun mo
dont tell me you really believe theres been a waiting list all these years...they may come up with one in the future but so far theyve lied about it....in saying there is one and in saying numerous times they would release it soon
Hoagiegate?
succumbing to public pressure and reversing a decision that farged the fans is not caring about us....i just wish their would be an uproar as large as the one for hoagiegate for the ticket stuff...something might then get done
The most glaring one was the Pepsi Zone deal. They were supposed to leave that plaza open (it's open in the original plans of the Linc) but they saw an opportunity to sell more tickets and jumped on it.
The SRO nonsense is another. All those extra people in the stadium diminishes the game-day experience at least for me anyway.
One of the guys on the EMB paid for Loge SBL's before the stadium opened and ended up getting booted out because they took those seats and used them for VIP packages.
I think there's less uproar because people are afraid of losing their tickets. I paid $1,530 per SBL and those things are worth 3-4 times that now. That's a fairly significant asset I own and if I rock the boat too much, they might just decide to seize them from me without cause.
And if they did, what could I do about it? They have million dollar lawyers on retainer and I'm just some poor working-class schmuck.
Quotewhat?....having an advertising agreement is a financial relationship...
I didn't say it wasn't. In fact, if you read the sentence you quoted, I admitted that it was a financial relationship.
Quotedo you know all the fine print thats included in the eagle/razorgator contract...
Obviously not. Do you?
Quotei cant believe you could possibly condone a front office and a ticket agency having a relationship of any kind....especially when you refuse to show the fans this 60k person waiting list you brag about all the time
Hang on there...you're rhetoric is getting a little wild. I'm not condoning anything of the sort. I only said that I don't believe there is anything more than what is visible: Razorgator (or whoever) is one of the many clearing houses where brokers - or even individuals - can sell their tickets. I don't doubt that a percentage of the sales revenue (skimmed off of the handling fees) goes back to the Eagles as part of the cost of advertising.
Quotei guess its because you have tickets and just dont care about the people who dont.
You guess wrong. I don't understand why you feel a need for a knee-jerk attack when I'm basically agreeing with you.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 12:11:30 PM
What are they lying about?
see sun mo
dont tell me you really believe theres been a waiting list all these years...they may come up with one in the future but so far theyve lied about it....in saying there is one and in saying numerous times they would release it soon
see my reply to sun mo...minus the UFO comment.
Yes, I think the waiting list is total bullshtein & I would like that process to be exposed in the media. That is a legitimate gripe.
i'm pretty sure the "waiting list" is just a phone number database so they call call idiots like me who think they are on the list and offer them $4000 ticket packages.
^^^^^
yup
its nothing more than a telemarketing database...best of all it required no work on the teams part to put it together and every person on it is a flaming hot lead
is there any sort of legal action that can be taken to try and get them to publish this waiting list they claim to have?
i'm thinking no, but i'm not a lawyer
Quote from: phattymatty on May 31, 2007, 01:35:12 PM
i'm pretty sure the "waiting list" is just a phone number database so they call call idiots like me who think they are on the list and offer them $4000 ticket packages.
Because I love you guys so much I made some phone calls, there is a guy in charge of the list but its not numbered 1-60,000 like some naive fans may think. Sounds like the actual list is at the organizations discretion as to who is next in line, doesn't matter how long you've been on the list. I'm not even sure what criteria they use to select people. The database matt mentions seems like the most logical explanation for even having such a list.
Quote from: SunMo on May 31, 2007, 01:44:44 PM
is there any sort of legal action that can be taken to try and get them to publish this waiting list they claim to have?
i'm thinking no, but i'm not a lawyer
If it gets enough media attention like Hoagiegate, it's possible that the process will become more transparent or at least end the fraud of calling it a waiting list.
If tooflapoo can focus his energy on this single issue, he can use his pitbull tenacity whip up fans & media.
i'll still probably hate him, but he can try
i think he should crusade against pants. i hate those things.
smoke pants are the wave of the future
Quote from: phattymatty on May 31, 2007, 02:53:04 PM
i think he should crusade against pants. i hate those things.
Zubaz?
Sounds like the actual list is at the organizations discretion as to who is next in line, doesn't matter how long you've been on the list
in other words there is no waiting list
I just bought tickets from Razor Gator for a Cardinals game. Sanctioned by the team. Seems the NFL is not alone.
Hofmann's take on the "conspiracy." :-D
QuoteRich Hofmann | THE WAIT ALONE WILL KILL YA
Get on line now, Eagles season tickets will be in your hands in 4,000 years
WENT ON THE EAGLES' Web site yesterday, typed in some information, clicked, joined the season-ticket waiting list. Just like that.
Didn't take a minute.
Should be hearing back in 4,000 years.
This is no joke. This is simple mathematics.
According to Eagles president Joe Banner, the waiting list now contains more than 60,000 names and, last year, a grand total of 15 of them were given the opportunity to buy tickets. Fifteen!
"We don't know what it will be this year," Banner said. "It could be 20. It could be 12. We don't know yet. But it's like nobody is not renewing their tickets. For the people who already have season tickets, the renewal rate is 99.9-something percent. That's the situation."
Football in Philadelphia in 2007 is unlike any sporting endeavor, and maybe any business endeavor, that this city has ever seen.
In the mid-1980s, just a little more than two decades ago, the Eagles were selling about 50,000 season tickets. That was the bottom, after a players strike in 1982 and three losing seasons under coach Marion Campbell, right before Buddy Ryan came to town.
Two decades. Now, the Eagles sell out a stadium that holds about 69,000 people and have almost that many more people waiting for the chance to buy in. Except the demand is even greater because virtually every name on that waiting list has expressed the desire to buy at least two tickets, and some more.
"At a minimum, we're talking about a demand for 120,000 seats," Banner said. "But that's if they're all legitimate, real names. We're not sure about that. We don't think there are 60,000 people who would all buy tickets tomorrow if given the chance. The truth is, we don't know how many people just did it on a whim, how many are really serious. But the list is massive."
And if you want to find out where you stand on that massive list? This is where it gets interesting. The genesis of this column was an e-mail from a reader who joined the list in 2003 and has been unable to get a straight answer out of the Eagles' ticket department about where he stands.
He wrote:
"I have been calling [and/or e-mailing] for the past three years, and each time I receive the same response: that they're working on it, but have no clue when they'll have a numbered list they can access.
"While Rome was not built in a day, I [and presumably the rest of the people on the waiting list] think that three+ years is more than ample time to come up with a numerical ranking, and that it is extremely neglectful to one's fans and customers not to be able to do so; or at the very least to not give a timeframe in which one can expect they will be able to do so." COULD IT BE? IS THIS TONY THE TIGER?? :-D
You run this by Banner and his initial response is a wisecrack: "Do they want to get depressed?" But it's a legitimate question, and Banner knows it. There are plenty of people who believe that there really is no waiting list at all, that the names are gathered simply for marketing purposes under the guise of creating a list.
After all, at the bottom of the list application, it does say, "By providing this information, I agree to be part of the Eagles' database and to receive team-related news, information regarding sweepstakes and contests, merchandise sales, and other promotional opportunities and information."
There are plenty of people who have been frustrated over the years with the club's refusal to give them a number, like in a bakery. A search of the message boards on the Eagles' Web site indicates that the topic pops up every once in a while.
"Here is what's supposed to happen when somebody calls," Banner said. "If the person is in the top quartile of the list, we tell them that. If they're not in the top quartile, we don't give them a number. But we do have a list. It is numbered and it is ordered."
But, honestly, why keep adding to the list when there is no earthly chance of getting a ticket? Isn't it just about creating that database at this point? Banner says no.
"A lot of teams in the league do stuff with the list," Banner said. "We're debating this. When we put single-game or standing-room-only tickets on sale, should we give these people the first crack? We don't, but should we? This is the kind of thing we talk about. Some teams charge to be on the list. Some make you put in a deposit. We've debated it but haven't done any of it."
In the meantime, the list grows. It is absurd. Banner said, "People assume, 'They'll have a few down years, people will get tired of the losing, they'll have more cancellations, and then ... ' Needless to say, I hope they're wrong."
A final word, about Rome not being built in a day. Legend has it that it was built in 753 B.C., which was about 2,760 years ago, which is not in the top quartile.
And here I thought the Rome reference was hinting at it being you.
i cant wait for the day when joe banner is no longer with the franchise...its to the point now that i almost wish theyd never win a sb with him there...
with the possible exception of chris webber i cant ever recall disliking a sports person more
Just look at those quotes from Joe Banner. He's one arrogant prick. How can someone say half that stuff and get away with it? fargface.
exactly
hes repugnant beyond description...he doesnt derseve a championship....
you think hes arrogant now i cant imagine how nauseating the "i told you so's" will be if they win one under his reign
It's either Tony the dooshbag or that guy yahmpy from the EMB. He is always ranting about season tix too.
As for Joey B being a smarmy prick - nothing new there. He reeks of smugness. But if they won a SB he could give IGY a lapdance for all I care...I just want one championship.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 31, 2007, 08:14:09 AM
Anyway, back on point, I'm curious about Jerome's assertion that you are making a profit from selling tickets. Are these tickets you wouldn't otherwise use yourself? Did you get them with the intention of reselling them for a profit?
I bought 3 tickets to 2 games during the public sale last year. Sold them to buy club level seats. I refuse to climb the steps in the 2nd deck.
As I have stated before, I do not have a problem with scalpers. I buy from them all the time. I have a problem with the Eagles not revoking the seats that are scalped and not selling them to local fans who would use them.
if i didnt like the eagles anymore i wouldnt be going to any games much less be shelling out the cake for club seats
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
AS LONG AS THE EAGLES IGNORE AND SCALP TICKETS THEMSELVES, I WILL TOO. BUT FOR THE GOOD OF ALL LOCAL FANS, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THEM REVOKE SCALPED TICKETS. THAT WOULD INCLUDE ME TOO.
He still hasn't explained why he's angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers (him) yet he's not angry at the scalpers themselves.
Thanks for making my point again. The funny thing is you still don't understand it. Classic.
So now you're pissed because the Eagles didn't revoke your scalped tickets?
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:00:13 PM
[Sold them to buy club level seats. I refuse to climb the steps in the 2nd deck.
people against steps!
yeah, maaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnn!
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 09:13:20 AM
how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"
EXACTLY THE POINT. THANK YOU. It would be very easy. They choose not to and it has to be because they are getting a kickback. What other possible reason could it be? Why wouldn't they want local fans using the tickets? It can't be that hard to track down the owner of an entire row of tickets, or 12 in the same row. Plus, how did one person actually even get 12 to 20 tickets together?
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
AS LONG AS THE EAGLES IGNORE AND SCALP TICKETS THEMSELVES, I WILL TOO. BUT FOR THE GOOD OF ALL LOCAL FANS, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THEM REVOKE SCALPED TICKETS. THAT WOULD INCLUDE ME TOO.
He still hasn't explained why he's angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers (him) yet he's not angry at the scalpers themselves.
Thanks for making my point again. The funny thing is you still don't understand it. Classic.
CRACKHEAD.
romey does spadaro pay you in training camp cocktails to go after this guy?
Quote from: Cerevant on May 31, 2007, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
He still hasn't explained why he's angry at the Eagles for selling to scalpers (him) yet he's not angry at the scalpers themselves.
Because, he is pissed off that he doesn't get a shot at more inventory. He can't scalp them if they are sold directly to the ticket brokers...
I said it before - this guy might just be a troll, but I think it is more likely that he has some other agenda. For all we know, he works for StubHub, and is pissed that the Eagles are advertising with the competition.
I agree with IGY - season tickets should be for fans, not brokers. I don't think any individual should hold the rights for more than 4 season tickets. I think what IGY proposes for monitoring EBay et al is perfectly reasonable. Unfortunately this yahoo doesn't propose solutions, he doesn't engage in conversation, and doesn't participate in any meaningful way in this forum except for his out of control rants and useless rally cries.
Go away troll. We heard your message, some of us agree with some of your points, but your obsession is way out of control and I for one am bored with it.
Your kidding right? You can't be that dumb. I am one of the few who is proposing solutions and engaging in conversation when someone actually wants to discuss the actual topic.
Troll? I should be living under a bridge.
Hey skippy, if you are bored with the topic, why do you read and post. You always have the option of moving on. Didn't think of that did you?
CRACKHEAD.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
romey does spadaro pay you in training camp cocktails to go after this guy?
No, silly... he pays me in butt secks.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 31, 2007, 12:12:05 PM
The most glaring one was the Pepsi Zone deal. They were supposed to leave that plaza open (it's open in the original plans of the Linc) but they saw an opportunity to sell more tickets and jumped on it.
The SRO nonsense is another. All those extra people in the stadium diminishes the game-day experience at least for me anyway.
HEY WE AGREE. I totally think that SRO non-sense was another slap in the face. One of the nice parts of the stadium (I won't get started on how poor the stadium design was) was that there were pavillions that people could stand and chat and still see the game. Now those are gone with 12 and 15 people deep SRO's. Money friggin grubbers.
I actually enjoyed the last few posts. People were actually discussing the problem.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on May 31, 2007, 12:39:13 PM
I don't understand why you feel a need for a knee-jerk attack when I'm basically agreeing with you.
no one attacks anyone here, the name calling and personal attacks are just expressions of appreciation.
Quote from: Beermonkey on May 31, 2007, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: SunMo on May 31, 2007, 01:44:44 PM
is there any sort of legal action that can be taken to try and get them to publish this waiting list they claim to have?
i'm thinking no, but i'm not a lawyer
If it gets enough media attention like Hoagiegate, it's possible that the process will become more transparent or at least end the fraud of calling it a waiting list.
If tooflapoo can focus his energy on this single issue, he can use his pitbull tenacity whip up fans & media.
That's the plan, my friend. I picked last June to start right after the tickets went on sale. I got screwed last year because of the Phillies pitcher wife beating episode, stole much of the radio time that same week. I have already set up two articles to run and will be doing a weekly call into WIP at night to update the number of tickets on RazorGator, highlighting the Sections and Rows that have 10 or more seats available.
I have also contacted ESPN and provided them with the same kind of info that I gave the Daily News last year. We have been bouncing emails back and forth, as they try to mine more info.
The Jets waiting list is the best in the business. They charge to be on it, but everyone has a number. A waiting list without numbers is not a waiting list.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 01:02:20 PM
if i didnt like the eagles anymore i wouldnt be going to any games much less be shelling out the cake for club seats
I'm in my 40s and have been an Eagles fan all my life, I still watch every week and go when I can. The Club Seats are the only ones you can get for close to face value, since they are so high to start with. Worth every penny on those cold days, and since I don't get around very well anymore, the elevators help out.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 01, 2007, 10:53:21 AM
It's either Tony the dooshbag or that guy yahmpy from the EMB. He is always ranting about season tix too.
As for Joey B being a smarmy prick - nothing new there. He reeks of smugness. But if they won a SB he could give IGY a lapdance for all I care...I just want one championship.
Dooshbag (spelling phonetically)? I know you are but what am I????
No championships for a team this crappy towards its fans. Smug, arrogant (for no real reason), sneaky, underhanded, liars...it all adds up to bad karma.
Next question.....
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 01:09:24 PM
romey does spadaro pay you in training camp cocktails to go after this guy?
He can come after me all he wants. He knows he is wrong, has been all along. He has admitted to not really unstanding or caring about the issue. And he stated he is a scared wittle boy that they might revoke his seats.
Once you get past the name calling and personal attacks, he has very little to offer. But he's worth a few yucks.
no such thing as karma...if so, i'd been dead long ago
Quote from: SunMo on June 01, 2007, 01:40:24 PM
no such thing as karma...if so, i'd been dead long ago
You may have a higher calling.......
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:06:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 31, 2007, 09:13:20 AM
how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"
EXACTLY THE POINT. THANK YOU. It would be very easy. They choose not to and it has to be because they are getting a kickback. What other possible reason could it be? Why wouldn't they want local fans using the tickets? It can't be that hard to track down the owner of an entire row of tickets, or 12 in the same row. Plus, how did one person actually even get 12 to 20 tickets together?
I'm not defending why they don't do it, but what NFL team does police secondary ticket sales? You can't say Washington either. Did the majority of teams police scalping before the advent of sites like Stubhub? If not, were they getting kickbacks then? Before you insult me, it's something I wish they would do.
Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site. Razorgator is just a tool to be used by scalpers like you. Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.
PS - I like what you are doing, though I think you may be focusing on the wrong problem.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:08:18 PM
Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.
Large blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked. End of statement. I haven't ignored anything. I understand how some may have gotten their seats. But entire rows? And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.
I have been investigating and have more information than you. Its not up to me to prove anything. Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it. I owe you nothing. You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets. You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site. Why would you do that? Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor. HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?
You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.
I am dead on with my target. Get the Eagles under pressure for scalping their tickets, have them stop and have them move them to local fans. You will see whe the article comes out. The Hoffman article was just a first step to get Banner to go on the record.
but what NFL team does police secondary ticket sales?
Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built.
who cares if other teams turn a blind eye to this...why is that an issue?
besides other teams dont have their gestapo mouthpiece in the paper twice a year...bragging about how hard it is to get eagle tickets while his front office watches and is in bed with a place that sells bunches of tickets at insane mark ups....its just amazing that those two things can happen and people dont seem to care all that much
and why also does it matter who owns the tickets and why or how they have a whole row
i dont care if they are blocks of tickets or single pairs
if game after game your tickets are showing up on razorgator
or any other place
then you lose them
period
this isnt rocket science
note* - i would however attach a realistic % over face value that you would be allowed to sell them at (that % can be fairly determined)
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:00:13 PM
As I have stated before, I do not have a problem with scalpers. I buy from them all the time. I have a problem with the Eagles not revoking the seats that are scalped and not selling them to local fans who would use them.
Quote from: crabby102 on May 28, 2007, 01:26:29 AM
BOYCOTT ALL SCALPERS EAGLES FANS. IF WE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP FUNDING THEM WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM. ITS LIKE FEEDING THE PIGEONS.
Quote from: ttllaboof on August 26, 2006, 03:19:49 PM
The more the scalpers lose the faster we get rid of every one of those a-holes and free tickets up for the fans.
I can think of one a-hole scalper I'd like to get rid of.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:09:49 PM
Hey skippy, if you are bored with the topic, why do you read and post. You always have the option of moving on. Didn't think of that did you?
I'm not bored with the topic, I'm bored with you. You know it is rough when I'm agreeing with IGY, but at least he is coherent.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:08:18 PM
Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.
Large blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked. End of statement. I haven't ignored anything. I understand how some may have gotten their seats. But entire rows? And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.
I have been investigating and have more information than you. Its not up to me to prove anything. Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it. I owe you nothing. You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets. You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site. Why would you do that? Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor. HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?
You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.
I am dead on with my target. Get the Eagles under pressure for scalping their tickets, have them stop and have them move them to local fans. You will see whe the article comes out. The Hoffman article was just a first step to get Banner to go on the record.
This guy goes from 0-100 in 2 seconds. Tony, your an icehole who wants attention, you just won't admit it. We all hate the current policy and hope it changes. I've been on the list since the beginning, what bothers me is if there is no order to the list than why the farg did i sign up for it? Good luck with your crusade, just stop visting here unless you have news about changes.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:19:20 PMLarge blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked. End of statement. I haven't ignored anything. I understand how some may have gotten their seats. But entire rows? And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.
Wrong, why wouldn't a ticket agency or broker put up all their seats? I used to deal with a company called Wanamaker Tickets that had over a 100 seats at the Vet & when they Linc was built, had to pay out over a million for PSLs. When I lived outside Philly I used to come to games through Martz bus tours, who owned about 50-100 seats. Why wouldn't they sell any unused blocks on RG?
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:19:20 PMI have been investigating and have more information than you. Its not up to me to prove anything. Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it. I owe you nothing. You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets. You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site. Why would you do that? Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor. HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?
If you are going to be the caped ticket-scalping crusader that you envision yourself as, yeah, you are going to need to prove something instead of making superficial assumptions. Listing the seat locations of tickets that are routinely scalped proves nothing. Your arguments are appealing to the emotions of disgruntled fans who can't get seats & offer very little hard facts. Anything you say to a reporter would be used anyway, as it's those emotions that sell papers.
Yes, I also agree that Banner needs to address many of these fan concerns.
I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it. RG gets tickets like any other company that buys advertising. Whether they get more than a normal advertiser is something a sleuth like you should be able to find out. I was trying to clear up the misconception that the tickets on that site are the property of RG. It's like arguing that since so many Beanie Babies are sold on E-bay, E-bay is trying to manipulate the hot Beanie Baby market. It's a tool used by the scalpers listing them.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.
You can if you purchase them, as you will see who they are coming from. I got to be friendly with the guy who I first bought them from on RG, so he then sold them to me directly for the rest of the season, to avoid any handling charges.
Quote from: Cerevant on June 01, 2007, 02:30:20 PM
I'm not bored with the topic, I'm bored with you. You know it is rough when I'm agreeing with IGY, but at least he is coherent.
Beat it, loser. This is way, way above your apparent education level.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:50:10 PM
If you are going to be the caped ticket-scalping crusader that you envision yourself as
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Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 02:23:11 PM
who cares if other teams turn a blind eye to this...why is that an issue?
besides other teams dont have their gestapo mouthpiece in the paper twice a year...bragging about how hard it is to get eagle tickets while his front office watches and is in bed with a place that sells bunches of tickets at insane mark ups....its just amazing that those two things can happen and people dont seem to care all that much
and why also does it matter who owns the tickets and why or how they have a whole row
i dont care if they are blocks of tickets or single pairs
if game after game your tickets are showing up on razorgator
or any other place
then you lose them
period
this isnt rocket science
note* - i would however attach a realistic % over face value that you would be allowed to sell them at (that % can be fairly determined)
:P I want this as much as you, so don't think I'm for the current policy. I'm just saying that there may be considerations that you & I are unaware of blocking a team from doing it. Maybe not, we just can't be sure.
This is the specific problem that crabby needs to focus on instead of pursuing his Razor Gator conspiracy theory. It's the people scalping the tickets, not the tool they are using to do it.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:50:10 PM
I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it.
"Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site", your words.
I will keep you informed and give you a heads up when the articles will run.
Can you explain why you come to this site spouting anti-scalper rhetoric, then claim that you don't care about scalpers and that you are one yourself?
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:50:10 PM
I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it.
"Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site", your words.
I will keep you informed and give you a heads up when the articles will run.
Can you prove that they are selling the tickets given to them as an advertising partner? No, you can't. My statement stands.
Even if they sold some of them, how it that any different than a rep from Chrysler/Jeep or any other ad sponsor dumping unused seats.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 02:58:43 PM
This is the specific problem that crabby needs to focus on instead of pursuing his Razor Gator conspiracy theory. It's the people scalping the tickets, not the tool they are using to do it.
Its actually niether. Its the fact that the Eagles not only condone it but facilitate it and act like it isn't happening.
I have nothing against RazorGator or scalpers, I buy and sell all the time.
My problem is the Eagles allowing to occur at the expense of EAGLES fans.
I need to go out and have my cape cleaned and pressed. You all have a nice day.
you guys are arguing about crap that doesnt matter...like who owns these blocks of tickets or any tickets that are getting scalped
the only thing that matters at all right now is that if the eagles wanted to they could starting today take the tickets away of anyone found to be scalping...they simply are choosing not to do it...we can all come up with our own reasons as to why...an every one of those reasons would be irrelevant
last year a guy that was sitting in one of my seats was apparently seen smoking...the only reason i know this is because about two weeks after the game i got a letter at home threating to take away all seven of my season tickets if it happened again...no questions asked
im sure thats one of the many reasons they can revoke tickets on the spot and they seem to be dilligent in enforcing those transgressions...why in hell are they not doing so with ticket scalpers on their own partner site (or anywhere else where the gulity can easily be caught)
if there were no waiting list...if this were ten eyars ago and the eagles were getting saved from being blacked out by car dealerships buying tickets up then this wouldnt be an issue
but the reason this angers me to no end can be summed up in the paper today by joe banner:
we are so great
we are the gold standard
dont worry about a waiting list and where you might be on it
cause guess what
youre not getting tickets anyway
and either is your great great grandson
lolollol @ YOU
oh but just in case you do want tix
visit our partner site razorgator
where you can get tickets anytime you want
at a 300% mark up
Quote from: Cerevant on June 01, 2007, 02:59:50 PM
Can you explain why you come to this site spouting anti-scalper rhetoric, then claim that you don't care about scalpers and that you are one yourself?
Please read the posts, or have a friend read them to you. There is no anti-scalping rhetoric. The topic is the Eagles profitting off of its fans by allowing scalping to go unchecked and most probably profitting from it.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 03:01:51 PM
Can you prove that they are selling the tickets given to them as an advertising partner? No, you can't. My statement stands.
What are you talking about? A scalping agency gets 100s, maybe 1000s of tickets given to them. And you think they don't sell them (remember they sell tickets as a business), but instead fly 100s of people from California where they are based and make every Eagles game.
Your statement stands but is absurd. Can you prove they don't? which is more realistic?
This is the specific problem that crabby needs to focus on instead of pursuing his Razor Gator conspiracy theory. It's the people scalping the tickets, not the tool they are using to do it.
absolutely...i could care less about razorgator...but what makes it worse is that im not asking the eagles to hire private investigators and go after undescript random inquirer classified adds for tickets...
all they have to do is pull up the website of their business partner and two keystrokes later they can find out everyhting they need to know
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 03:03:34 PM
you guys are arguing about crap that doesnt matter...like who owns these blocks of tickets or any tickets that are getting scalped
the only thing that matters at all right now is that if the eagles wanted to they could starting today take the tickets away of anyone found to be scalping...they simply are choosing not to do it...we can all come up with our own reasons as to why...an every one of those reasons would be irrelevant
last year a guy that was sitting in one of my seats was apparently seen smoking...the only reason i know this is because about two weeks after the game i got a letter at home threating to take away all seven of my season tickets if it happened again...no questions asked
im sure thats one of the many reasons they can revoke tickets on the spot and they seem to be dilligent in enforcing those transgressions...why in hell are they not doing so with ticket scalpers on their own partner site (or anywhere else where the gulity can easily be caught)
if there were no waiting list...if this were ten eyars ago and the eagles were getting saved from being blacked out by car dealerships buying tickets up then this wouldnt be an issue
but the reason this angers me to no end can be summed up in the paper today by joe banner:
we are so great
we are the gold standard
dont worry about a waiting list and where you might be on it
cause guess what
youre not getting tickets anyway
and either is your great great grandson
lolollol @ YOU
oh but just in case you do want tix
visit our partner site razorgator
where you can get tickets anytime you want
at a 300% mark up
Dead on, nicely done.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 01:26:38 PM
The Jets waiting list is the best in the business. They charge to be on it, but everyone has a number. A waiting list without numbers is not a waiting list.
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It's a
double secret waiting list!
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2007, 03:03:34 PM
you guys are arguing about crap that doesnt matter...like who owns these blocks of tickets or any tickets that are getting scalped
the only thing that matters at all right now is that if the eagles wanted to they could starting today take the tickets away of anyone found to be scalping...they simply are choosing not to do it...we can all come up with our own reasons as to why...an every one of those reasons would be irrelevant
I've already wasted too much time on this.
I basically agreed with what you said, the issue is who is scalping them & the Eagles lack of desire to police them. That's it.
All that Razorgator advertising bullshtein is only a very small part of the main issue & does not address the root problem, which is people/businesses buying large blocks of seats with the express intent of reselling them.
Scalping by licensed agents is legal & if the Eagles want to grab some of their ad dollars, fine. If their relation goes beyond that, which it hasn't been proven otherwise, then that's a separate problem.
Address/police the people who only buy to resell & everything else settles after that.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 03:01:51 PM
Can you prove that they are selling the tickets given to them as an advertising partner? No, you can't. My statement stands.
What are you talking about? A scalping agency gets 100s, maybe 1000s of tickets given to them. And you think they don't sell them (remember they sell tickets as a business), but instead fly 100s of people from California where they are based and make every Eagles game.
Your statement stands but is absurd. Can you prove they don't? which is more realistic?
We are talking about the amount of tickets given to RG by the Eagles as an advertising partner, supposedly the same as any advertising partner. What are you talking about?
Once again, you're an empty suit. You make emotional claims based on only your biased assumptions & pass it off as fact. Find out how many they get & we'll talk further. Until then you're no more credible than someone trying to prove a government conspiracy to cover up UFOs.
Come on, I know you work for a somewhat big company & aren't ignorant to common business practices. So if a company gets tickets for being an ad partner, they only give them to the people that work at their corp office? I know you're not that naive. One of the main purposes for any company to obtain seats is to entertain clients of their own, reward key vendor partners & their own key employees. They don't get seats to award Bob the copy guy because he cleans the coffee pot everyday.
Which is more realistic? Can I prove they don't? :-D Dude, I'm not one making accusations to the media, I don't need to prove shtein. I'm just trying to base my opinion off of fact & not some psychosis-filled destiny that I feel I need to achieve.
this has easily turned into the worst thread i've ever seen.
i think everyone for the most part agrees with each other yet somehow everyone is arguing about everything.
shtein, i don't have the time to dedicate to crusading against the eagles ticket scalping rules, i like to spend my free time doing something fun, but if crabby does good for him. it may even help me out someday, as i've been on the "list" since 2001.
does he seem like a douchebag? yes, he most certainly does. am i going to rail against his cause? no way.
crabby i think you may be able to drum up a lot more interest in your favor if you didn't act like such a jackass.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 03:04:14 PM
Please read the posts, or have a friend read them to you. There is no anti-scalping rhetoric. The topic is the Eagles profitting off of its fans by allowing scalping to go unchecked and most probably profitting from it.
This is from the post that derailed this thread:
QuoteBOYCOTT ALL SCALPERS EAGLES FANS. IF WE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP FUNDING THEM WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM. ITS LIKE FEEDING THE PIGEONS.
This statement has nothing to do with the Eagles, or Razorgator for that matter.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on June 01, 2007, 02:30:20 PM
I'm not bored with the topic, I'm bored with you. You know it is rough when I'm agreeing with IGY, but at least he is coherent.
Beat it, loser. This is way, way above your apparent education level.
Crackhead.
Nothing derailed this thread. It was off the track to begin with.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 01, 2007, 05:23:02 PM
Which is more realistic? Can I prove they don't? :-D Dude, I'm not one making accusations to the media, I don't need to prove shtein. I'm just trying to base my opinion off of fact & not some psychosis-filled destiny that I feel I need to achieve.
Cool, I've actually enjoyed our exchange. I think we are pretty much on the same side. And like I said I will give all of the people who care a heads up when stories are about to be done. Together the Eagles fans can force the Eagles oganization to do what's right. Even though with the arogance they operate with it may take a few losing seasons for them to crack.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 01, 2007, 05:44:16 PM
does he seem like a douchebag? yes, he most certainly does. am i going to rail against his cause? no way.
crabby i think you may be able to drum up a lot more interest in your favor if you didn't act like such a jackass.
If responding to personal attacks makes me a jack ass, so be it. You are willing to let me fight the good fight for you, but still want to call me names. Interesting personality flaw, I think.
I am not doing any of this for all of the morons that either don't undestand the issue, don't care about the issue or simply just like o build up post numbers with stupid attacks. I am doing it because its the right thing to do. More local Eagles fans in the stadium, not being raped for the tickets. Simple.
Remember the end of the 2005 seaon, empty seats all over the place. Lots of Skins and Giants fans in the other seats. That is the future. Once the Eagles come down off the winning cycle and hit the inevitable down cycle, the problem will become much more obvious.
Quote from: Cerevant on June 01, 2007, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: crabby102 on June 01, 2007, 03:04:14 PM
Please read the posts, or have a friend read them to you. There is no anti-scalping rhetoric. The topic is the Eagles profitting off of its fans by allowing scalping to go unchecked and most probably profitting from it.
This is from the post that derailed this thread:
QuoteBOYCOTT ALL SCALPERS EAGLES FANS. IF WE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP FUNDING THEM WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM. ITS LIKE FEEDING THE PIGEONS.
This statement has nothing to do with the Eagles, or Razorgator for that matter.
Actually it is the second prong of the way to get the Egales to change. But it will only take form AFTER the aticles come out.
It would take a massive boycott of Eagles fans, to force the team into changing its ways. Its not impossible. But te outrage at the team's underhanded ticket policies needs to be talked about in the media first.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 01, 2007, 06:59:41 PM
Crackhead.
5K of your rather impressive 10K posts are shtein like this. You are a true wordsmith. DickBrain.
Nice use of dickbrain, assbag.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 02, 2007, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 01, 2007, 06:59:41 PM
Crackhead.
5K of your rather impressive 10K posts are shtein like this. You are a true wordsmith. DickBrain.
100% of your posts are the unhinged ravings of a mentally unbalanced mongoloid.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 02, 2007, 01:07:25 PM
5K of your rather impressive 10K posts are shtein like this. You are a true wordsmith. DickBrain.
To be fair, you've got more posts per day than him, which ultimately is more important. You stick around here and annoy us long enough, you'll have more than him.
I've signed up for the waiting list like three years ago. That was the last time I thought about it because I haven't heard a damn thing. Not sure I really care anymore. Any games I go to I never have trouble getting tickets and sometimes its nice to watch the game on my nice HDTV at home. :)
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Quote from: crabby102 on June 02, 2007, 01:04:15 PMActually it is the second prong of the way to get the Egales to change. But it will only take form AFTER the aticles come out.
And when crabby102 broke the 3rd seal, he beheld an angel. He heard the third living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of Pepsi Zone seats in his hand.
You must be a lot of fun to live with.
Touched by a Scalping Angel?
That wasn't the scalping angel. It was the package deal godmother.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 03, 2007, 09:07:13 AM
And when crabby102 broke the 3rd seal, he beheld an angel. He heard the third living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of Pepsi Zone seats in his hand.
You must be a lot of fun to live with.
Gotta have a plan right?
I am not that much fun to live with, from what I am told. But I am a good time at the local pub. I'd actually one day like to hang with some of the fellows on this board, but I think someone might kill me. Or try to kill me. If it ever does happen I would definitely wear the cape.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 02, 2007, 02:43:27 PM
Nice use of dickbrain, assbag.
I thought so too, shtein stain. This is becoming more and more fun, this name calling thing.
even though you're no good at it?
Quote from: Dillen on June 02, 2007, 04:55:44 PM
To be fair, you've got more posts per day than him, which ultimately is more important. You stick around here and annoy us long enough, you'll have more than him.
I usually get banned way before I reach some lofty levels. Plus, I could never waste that kind of time. But atleast I know I am annoying you, which makes it all worth while.
I'm amazed at how many people take the time to say they are annoyed. When I read a post that annoys me, I state the reason why, I don't waste my time just saying I am annoyed. It makes no sense. But who ever said message board folk have to make sense?
Quote from: SunMo on June 03, 2007, 01:52:25 PM
even though you're no good at it?
Are you kidding me? I take clever shots, not just go with the mindnumbingly stupid "crackhead", "arsehole" staples.
Calling him dickbrain was actually a backhanded slap showing how stupid it is to simply call a name and run.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 03, 2007, 09:07:13 AM
And when crabby102 broke the 3rd seal, he beheld an angel. He heard the third living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of Pepsi Zone seats in his hand.
You must be a lot of fun to live with.
Gotta have a plan right?
I am not that much fun to live with, from what I am told. But I am a good time at the local pub. I'd actually one day like to hang with some of the fellows on this board, but I think someone might kill me. Or try to kill me. If it ever does happen I would definitely wear the cape.
You own mom doesn't like you does she
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:55:12 PM
Calling him dickbrain was actually a backhanded slap showing how stupid it is to simply call a name and run.
you are the exact opposite of clever
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 02:03:18 PM
You own mom doesn't like you does she
She really didn't, God rest her soul
Quote from: SunMo on June 03, 2007, 02:05:47 PM
you are the exact opposite of clever
Apparently you aren't familiar with the meaning of the word clever
http://dictionary.reference.com/
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
I'm amazed at how many people take the time to say they are annoyed. When I read a post that annoys me, I state the reason why, I don't waste my time just saying I am annoyed. It makes no sense. But who ever said message board folk have to make sense?
Personally I dont give a shtein about what point youre trying to get across because I hardly go to Eagles games anyway, but it seems to annoy the other people.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 02:03:18 PM
You own mom doesn't like you does she
She really didn't, God rest her soul
i doubt she's with God, she obviously did a terrible job of raising her children
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
I usually get banned way before I reach some lofty levels.
No kidding.
Ben Franklin said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Stop acting like a smug jerkoff everywhere you go and people might actually give you a chance to voice your opinion without flaming you at every turn.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
I usually get banned way before I reach some lofty levels.
No kidding.
Ben Franklin said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Stop acting like a smug jerkoff everywhere you go and people might actually give you a chance to voice your opinion without flaming you at every turn.
/\ /\ /\
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The TRUTH
You're all just jealous because he's so much better than you. Smarter, too.
Quote from: Dillen on June 03, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
I'm amazed at how many people take the time to say they are annoyed. When I read a post that annoys me, I state the reason why, I don't waste my time just saying I am annoyed. It makes no sense. But who ever said message board folk have to make sense?
Personally I dont give a shtein about what point youre trying to get across because I hardly go to Eagles games anyway, but it seems to annoy the other people.
So if you don't understand plain english and don't care even if you did, why are you posting. Go back to studying for the GED.
Quote from: SunMo on June 03, 2007, 02:18:41 PM
i doubt she's with God, she obviously did a terrible job of raising her children
Bad karma to you, dick bag
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
I usually get banned way before I reach some lofty levels.
No kidding.
Ben Franklin said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Stop acting like a smug jerkoff everywhere you go and people might actually give you a chance to voice your opinion without flaming you at every turn.
Blow me. All you do is attack eben after you admit you dion't care about and understand the situation, AND that you are AFRAID to get involved. Engage in some actual intelligent conversation and people might actually respect you.
You are truly stupid and I feel bad for you. But we all need ditch diggers.
This guy talking shart again is ridiculous. Hey fargwad, take a hint. We all are pissed about the current Ticket situation, but shtein isn't going to change, good luck in your crusade to get people to listen to you make the same farging point over and over again.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 11:23:25 PM
This guy talking shart again is ridiculous. Hey fargwad, take a hint. We all are pissed about the current Ticket situation, but shtein isn't going to change, good luck in your crusade to get people to listen to you make the same farging point over and over again.
If dickwads like yourself didn't constantly attack me, it would actually be a good thread. But the kind of worthless drivel that the posters here hit me with, is worth a good retort. Now beat it. The thread wouldn't hit 240+ relpies without people caring/dickwads attacking.
So thanks, I appreciate the pub. even though the majority are jack asses.
So now you're looking for someone to suck your dick? Is that what all this has been about? You're actually a fag looking for love.
Awe. That's sweet.
Can't help you, though. Try the taterskins board. They're always looking for fresh meat over there.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 11:30:40 PM
So now you're looking for someone to suck your dick? Is that what all this has been about? You're actually a fag looking for love.
Awe. That's sweet.
Can't help you, though. Try the taterskins board. They're always looking for fresh meat over there.
You only wish, too bad one of us is a man. And its obviously not YOU.
You contribute nothing other than the same drivel over and over. You dont talk about anything other than the same shtein over and over (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2017;sa=statPanel). So as Sun Mo would say, i'm off to go did up your moms corpse and infect her with teh AIDS :flipoff
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 11:33:41 PM
You contribute nothing other than the same drivel over and over. You dont talk about anything other than the same shtein over and over (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2017;sa=statPanel). So as Sun Mo would say, i'm off to go did up your moms corpse and infect her with teh AIDS :flipoff
You have got to be one of the dumbest people I have come across and that's saying alot. I wish you well in everything you try to do.
I'm not the one asking random strangers on a message board to blow me.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 11:33:41 PM
You contribute nothing other than the same drivel over and over. You dont talk about anything other than the same shtein over and over (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2017;sa=statPanel). So as Sun Mo would say, i'm off to go did up your moms corpse and infect her with teh AIDS :flipoff
You have got to be one of the dumbest people I have coe across and that's saying alot. I wish you well in everything you try to do.
AIDS
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 11:35:13 PM
You have got to be one of the dumbest people I have coe across
Awesome
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 11:36:27 PM
Aids
Aids is an absolute life and death problem for millions. For you to belittle it shows how little of a man (or girl) that you are.
I hope you are drunk, otherwise really bad karma to you for being such a fleshpop.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 11:35:59 PM
I'm not the one asking random strangers on a message board to blow me.
Apparent;y you are. But who am I to judge. Whatever makes you happy. Crackhead.
That's the point. He's saying he wants you to die from AIDS, moron. Judging from your casual attitudes towards picking up strange men on message boards and sucking their dicks, I'd say you have an excellent chance of contracting it. Not here, of course, because to my knowledge there's no one here who's into AIDS-infected cum-guzzling gutter sluts like you.
Again - try the taterskins board. They're definitely more to your liking.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 03, 2007, 11:36:27 PM
AIDs
The best part of all of this is YOU STARTED THIS THREAD BY WHINING THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE WAIT LSIT.
I give you more info than anyone else and they you cry because you either don't understand or are OK with the Eagles farging you over.
Classic.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 11:43:07 PM
That's the point. He's saying he wants you to die from AIDS, moron. Judging from your casual attitudes towards picking up strange men on message boards and sucking their dicks, I'd say you have an excellent chance of contracting it. Not here, of course, because to my knowledge there's no one here who's into AIDS-infected cum-guzzling gutter sluts like you.
Again - try the taterskins board. They're definitely more to your liking.
You are definitely gay, not that there is anything wrong with that. But I knew it all along. Good luck with that, cocksmoker.
Again - I'm not the one here asking someone to suck my meatcicle. You are. It's quoted below.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 11:16:09 PM
Blow me.
I assume you understand what that phrase means. Even someone who is clearly as sharp as a pile of mashed potatoes understands that when you say "blow me" you're actually asking someone to suck your penis, right?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 03, 2007, 11:50:21 PM
sume you understand what that phrase means. Even someone who is clearly as sharp as a pile of mashed potatoes understands that when you say "blow me" you're actually asking someone to suck your penis, right?
Yes, and if they agreed that meant they were into it. You understand that right? I know you are into it, but do you understand it?
Will one of you guys just blow him already? Jeez.
Quote from: crabby102 on June 03, 2007, 11:38:41 PM
Aids is an absolute life and death problem for millions.
that's why it's so funny! get it?
Remember the end of the 2005 seaon, empty seats all over the place. Lots of Skins and Giants fans in the other seats. That is the future.
it will never be worse than at the vet...when the eagles were good the vet had a good amount of visiting fans...when a team stinks i dont care what the ticket polices are theres gonna be lots of division fans in the stadium
i support your crusade 100% but the visiting fan argument isnt relevant to anything
People should be forced to sign loyalty oaths before purchasing tickets. Either you're an Eagles fan and can prove so without a shadow of a doubt or you have no right to even enter the stadium.
That's totally doable.
Apparently, the teetee virus has spread to other NFC East teams: ES.com: The season ticket waiting list myth (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199926&page=6&pp=15)
QuoteBut did you know that ticket brokers have multiple web sites that post the same tickets? A different web URL does not mean a different company owns that URL. Also, I read that many ticket brokers share commissions so they post on one another's sites to broaden the visibility. Finally, don'tcha think season ticket holders might post on multiple sites to make it easier to sell their tickets? I did this year for financial reasons. My tickets are sold for the coming season.
Besides, if you check out the ticket broker sites and add up the number of tickets available, it is really a very small percentage of tickets. I did it a few years ago. Remember, there are 91,000 seats in FedEx Field. Just a 10 percent resell is over 9,000 seats. I think my count came to just over 3,000 tickets for the Cowboys game and a Giants game. Numbers were very close. And I checked out 20 ticket brokers with the highest volume of hits on Google.
So continue with the conspiracy theories and maybe some of us more logical folks will believe you when you come up with some real facts that the ticket office is selling tickets first to the broker.....think about that?.........with dozens of ticket office people, don'tcha think someone would have spilled the beans to the Post by now? Naw.....that would be logical thinking. Better to make up a story and spread it on the internet where gullible people believe everthing they read.....especially when The Danny owns the team.
Of course, that is silly, but what about this:
1) No individual can hold the rights to more than 4 season tickets.
2) The season ticket holder is given a photo ID associated with their account
3) When entering the stadium, the STH has his ID scanned along with his ticket.
4) If a STH doesn't show up for at least 4 home games, he loses the rights to his tickets (exceptions considered on a case by case basis)
This would put tickets in the hands of fans, but of course would not stop scalping. Why wouldn't the Eagles do this? Because it screws over corporations and ticket brokers, who probably result in more than 50% of ticket revenue.
This has nothing to do with RazorGator or eBay - turnover of season tickets costs the Eagles money - it is called customer acquisition cost...you know, that waiting list you are asking them to maintain? Why do you think PSLs are so popular? Not only is it an immediate infusion of cash, but the Eagles get recurring revenue (I don't want to lose my PSL) and put the burden of resale on the customer (I don't want to waste the money I spent on my PSL).
If ticket auctioning is so profitable, why don't the Eagles (or anyone else in the NFL) do it themselves? If tickets can sell for $200, why do they charge half that? The reason is that season tickets are guaranteed revenue at a predictable level. Tickets are priced to ensure renewals, which in the long term maximize profits. So, again - before you get your panties in a bunch about a conspiracy, follow the money - why would Joe Banner give a cut to a middle man when he could make the profit himself? The answer is, he wouldn't.
Quote from: Cerevant on June 04, 2007, 02:26:40 PM
4) If a STH doesn't show up for at least 4 home games, he loses the rights to his tickets (exceptions considered on a case by case basis)
that's the wost idea i've ever heard. i'm sure the eagles would love getting phone calls from fans explaining why they can't make the game because they have a tummy ache or a bad case of hemerroids.
yeah that is retarded...you dont punish fans who dont show up you punish ticket account holders for scalping their tickets...people are over thinking this....the eagles are three or four computer keystrokes from finding out who is scalping tickets and who isnt...they dont need any complicated misguided ticket policies put in
Upon reflection, I don't think my loyalty oath suggestion went far enough. I say the only true way of making sure that loyal Eagles fans are the only ones attending Eagles games is to install computer chips or bar codes in each season ticket holder. That way whenever we pass through the line we won't need tickets (saving the Eagles more money, of course). We'll just do a retinal scan or wave our bar codes over the scanner and in we go.
Again - totally doable.
Fine - lose the restriction on attendance, the point is moot anyway.
Scalping helps the Eagles retain their continuing revenue because the buyers have perceived value beyond the cost of the ticket. This encourages STHs to renew when they might not plan to use the tickets - if they could only get face for resale, why keep them?
The Eagles have what they want: 99.9% of their seats are paid for in advance every year. Question for Season Ticket Holders - how often have you been able to recoup the entire cost of your package (preseason included) by scalping? How much profit did you make?
When the team is doing well I'm sure it is easier to do well than when the team is doing poorly. Guess what - no matter how badly the Eagles play, the team still gets the same amount of money. When you were giving away tickets 2 years ago, the team made the same profit. When you got 3 times face for the Linc opener, you still paid the Eagles for two preseason games.
This conspiracy theory is bullshtein if for no other reason than if it were possible to squeeze any more cash out of this cow, you can be sure Banner would find a way to do it without giving someone else a cut.
FYI... Final payments are due today for 2007 SBL & General Ticket holders. :deion
Haven't been around much. What's this about the Eagles selling extras to scalpers? :-*
:bash
Single game tickets go on sale June 14th.
Hopefully I'll be able to get through to get the tickets for the Dolphins game.
I guess I'll be going after the Bears game...
I hope ttllabtoof gets single game tickets so he can scalp them again and then spend the next year ranting about the Eagles allowing scalpers to purchase tickets.
:yay
as crazy as you say he is youre that much crazier...jesus let it go...at least he is fighting for something he believes in...youre chasing a guy you dont even know around the internets going off on him when hes not even making posts
settle the farg down
So, IGY... what goes better with my balls - a nice smooth chardonnay or a bold zinfandel?
Quote from: EagleFeva on June 06, 2007, 12:56:15 PM
I guess I'll be going after the Bears game...
I'll probably be trying to concurrently get those and take whichever ones I can
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 06, 2007, 02:09:27 PM
So, IGY... what goes better with my balls - a nice smooth chardonnay or a bold zinfandel?
I'm thinking they'd go well with some farva beans and a nice bottle of Chianti. thfpthfpthfpthfpthfpthfp
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 06, 2007, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on June 06, 2007, 02:09:27 PM
So, IGY... what goes better with my balls - a nice smooth chardonnay or a bold zinfandel?
I'm thinking they'd go well with some farva beans and a nice bottle of Chianti. thfpthfpthfpthfpthfpthfp
Wouldn't they BE the farva beans?
I guess they could be. I dunno though. I don't even know what a farva bean is. Never seen one before.Â
I googled it and learned 2 things:
This is what they look like:
(http://img.timeinc.net/cooking/flavorprofiles/fava_beans_m.jpg)
And they're actually called Fava beans. Not to be confused with Feva beans which is slang for herpes.
What about Favre beans!
favre beans....
(http://www.mylowerbackpain.com/image-files/painkillers.jpg)
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 13, 2007, 08:25:03 AM
favre beans....
(http://www.mylowerbackpain.com/image-files/painkillers.jpg)
ha!
Farva beans.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dc/Kevinheffernan1.jpg/250px-Kevinheffernan1.jpg)
Feva beans?
(http://www.hewroteshewrote.com/feva.jpg)
does anyone know what the limits are for tomorrow's single game ticket sale? i can't seem to find it. last year it was 3 tickets for 2 games. i actually ended up getting tix to 3 but they randomly deleted one of my orders b/c i exceeded the limit.
i just realized they are going on sale. who wants to get some and give them to me?
If anybody hates two of their Dolphin tickets, I'll gladly buy them from you.
Quote from: Cerevant on June 04, 2007, 02:26:40 PM
Of course, that is silly, but what about this:
1) No individual can hold the rights to more than 4 season tickets.
2) The season ticket holder is given a photo ID associated with their account
3) When entering the stadium, the STH has his ID scanned along with his ticket.
4) If a STH doesn't show up for at least 4 home games, he loses the rights to his tickets (exceptions considered on a case by case basis)
This would put tickets in the hands of fans, but of course would not stop scalping. Why wouldn't the Eagles do this? Because it screws over corporations and ticket brokers, who probably result in more than 50% of ticket revenue.
This has nothing to do with RazorGator or eBay - turnover of season tickets costs the Eagles money - it is called customer acquisition cost...you know, that waiting list you are asking them to maintain? Why do you think PSLs are so popular? Not only is it an immediate infusion of cash, but the Eagles get recurring revenue (I don't want to lose my PSL) and put the burden of resale on the customer (I don't want to waste the money I spent on my PSL).
If ticket auctioning is so profitable, why don't the Eagles (or anyone else in the NFL) do it themselves? If tickets can sell for $200, why do they charge half that? The reason is that season tickets are guaranteed revenue at a predictable level. Tickets are priced to ensure renewals, which in the long term maximize profits. So, again - before you get your panties in a bunch about a conspiracy, follow the money - why would Joe Banner give a cut to a middle man when he could make the profit himself? The answer is, he wouldn't.
yeah ok President Bush i mean Hitler. :paranoid
whaa??
a friend of mine got her ravens season tickets in the mail today
dont the eagle tickets come in august sometimes...but at best very late july
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2007, 01:48:46 PM
a friend of mine got her ravens season tickets in the mail today
dont the eagle tickets come in august sometimes...but at best very late july
Late July they are mailed.
Does it matter that the Ravens fans get theirs earlier?
Uh, no.
Oh snap! IGY got served with a serious dose of 'so what'. FACE!
well, in all honesty, he did screw up the swift flow of this thread
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2007, 11:03:28 PM
well, in all honesty, he did screw up the swift flow of this thread
I welcomed the break. I could barely keep up.
So i got a voicemail yesterday about Premium Ticket Packages, i'm gussing i'm either very low on the waiting list since since you guys got calls a month ago, or they just dont give a schtein and call whoever.
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2007, 11:03:28 PM
well, in all honesty, he did screw up the swift flow of this thread
At least he never disrupts the swift flow from your johnson.
stop trying so hard
I'm like Avis.
i have nothing bad to say about pg
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 11, 2007, 08:13:10 AM
So i got a voicemail yesterday about Premium Ticket Packages, i'm gussing i'm either very low on the waiting list since since you guys got calls a month ago, or they just dont give a schtein and call whoever.
how many of your children was Leo Carlin/RazorGator asking for in return for tickets?
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on July 11, 2007, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 11, 2007, 08:13:10 AM
So i got a voicemail yesterday about Premium Ticket Packages, i'm gussing i'm either very low on the waiting list since since you guys got calls a month ago, or they just dont give a schtein and call whoever.
how many of your children was Leo Carlin/RazorGator asking for in return for tickets?
You seriously have a problem man, let it go
anybody here get a call from the eagles in the past couple days? i got a voicemail on friday & haven't had time to call them back.
just wondering what it might be about. i think i'm at spot 30,000 on the waiting list so i'm sure that's not it.
might be for club seat season tickets
They wanna offer you a tryout, can you long snap?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 03, 2009, 10:50:23 AM
They wanna offer you a tryout, can you long snap?
no, but i know a few magic tricks.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
might be for club seat season tickets
Yep, they're going to offer you the club seat special Eagles cheerleader bonanza package for only $195/ticket.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 03, 2009, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 03, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
might be for club seat season tickets
Yep, they're going to offer you the club seat special Eagles cheerleader bonanza package for only $195/ticket.
what a bargain for me. i think i will buy some.
i think it was around this time last year that they called me offering some ridiculous ultimate tailgating package for the season. was something like $1500 per seat for the year and all it was was access to the "official" eagles tailgate before the game and club level seats. didn't even come with a parking pass.
i wouldn't be surprised if that's what they're offering you. or something even more retarded.
The voicemail was a pre-recorded Jason Peters pep talk. I think Shady & Maclin left messages too but when I saw the same number I didn't even bother to check it - just deleted it immediately.
The new deal is you pay $200 per game to sit under Banner's desk doing combinatorial mathematics. They call it the "General Manager Apprentice" package.
Are you allowed to bring a tazer?
Quote from: General_Failure on May 04, 2009, 08:02:31 PM
Are you allowed to bring a tazer?
Why worry about what you're allowed to do, McHoydaNabb. Just smuggle it in with a hoagie
single game sales a week from today 10am
Interesting that we didn't renew ours, yet I still get calls every week that I am late on payment and to pay them asap.
They haven't given up our seats yet LOL
i think with a waiting list how difficult it is to get season tickets and the finality of losing them they probably give a failry significant buffer time before taking them away
or their automated call back phone system hasnt been reset
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2009, 04:17:43 PM
single game sales a week from today 10am
i can't wait to get beat out by all of the
ticket brokers scalpers that have 30 lines tied up at the same time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2009, 05:01:09 PM
i think with a waiting list how difficult it is to get season tickets and the finality of losing them they probably give a failry significant buffer time before taking them away
or their automated call back phone system hasnt been reset
its not automatic calls. its Sue Gorman and others in the office. lol
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 09, 2009, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2009, 05:01:09 PM
i think with a waiting list how difficult it is to get season tickets and the finality of losing them they probably give a failry significant buffer time before taking them away
or their automated call back phone system hasnt been reset
its not automatic calls. its Sue Gorman and others in the office. lol
I can't believe you aren't re-upping them, and then selling them at a profit to out-of-town losers like me and Sarge.
Either that or just offer them to someone here who might want them at face.
yeah i dont understand how anyone could straight give up eagle tickets...its beyond baffling...like romey said sell them for face and then when you can use them again youll have them...if for nothing else youll have them for your kids when they older...football tickets are so cheap too
as angry as i was, They should have sold them to me
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 09, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
yeah i dont understand how anyone could straight give up eagle tickets...its beyond baffling...like romey said sell them for face and then when you can use them again youll have them...if for nothing else youll have them for your kids when they older...football tickets are so cheap too
Spoken like the true gubment bitch you are. Yeah, just put up money you don't have, and worry about selling them later. Not everyone in these tight times has a cushy government job like your fat cat ass.
But..........it's not like I'm broke enough not to bet your taterskin luvin' ass and take your money this year.
you dont have to put up your own money idiot...theres a massive waiting list you dont think living in philadelphia pg could have found two people to pay her for her tickets until she wanted them back....shtein she could have made a post on this board and sold them in five minutes....i myself have seven seats and only pay for two of them...did you think the actual account holder had to physically pay for all his tickets??
This whole thing of giving up something for life - something so many people want - continues to baffle me.
my mom had given me her season tickets when i graduated high school because she was moving about 3 hours north and didn't want to make the trip every week....2 ticks in sect 628. i kept them for 3 years even though i was living on the west coast at the time but had a hard time selling them every week.....especially since the internet was just starting up at the time and sites like ebay and craig's list were still years away from being developed. not to mention that the eagles weren't exactly a hot ticket back then either.
it just became too much of a pain in the ass to buy them every year and then try to sell them from across the country so in the spring of 98 i opted not to renew and i've been kicking myself in the ass ever since.
That's a great story that is completely irrelevant to today, minus the last line.
:P
Single game tix go on sale in 10 minutes.
so 12 minutes until matty lets us know he got four tickets to every game
I got two singles. One for the opener and one for Dallas in November.
New Orleans is in Section 209, Row 1.
Dallas is in 202 Row 22.
I've never sat in the Club Level, and although you don't actually get club privaleges in 209 it will still be different to sit there. Plus my boy can use both seats in my section for both games, which is cool for him.
your boy could have had pg's tickets for every game to himself
i was actually in a meeting and a reminder went off on my phone so i excused myself.
was through within 5 seconds after 10 and still couldn't get a pair of seats together.
got myself a single for the home opener and one for mnf against dallas.
although i'm not sure if my dallas one is going to go through, i think i may have hung up too soon.
Quote from: Rome on June 16, 2009, 10:12:02 AM
I got two singles. One for the opener and one for Dallas in November.
New Orleans is in Section 209, Row 1.
Dallas is in 202 Row 22.
I've never sat in the Club Level, and although you don't actually get club privaleges in 209 it will still be different to sit there. Plus my boy can use both seats in my section for both games, which is cool for him.
i sat in the club level with KoRn (wtf happened to him?) for the giants game back in 03. we were sitting a couple of rows infront of the actual club box seats and there were 2 kids around 10 years old up there that were both wearing tiki barber jerseys and every time they opened the window our entire section started giving them the a-hole chant. they loved it.
i didn't even bother trying because i'm not too certain on whether or not i'll even be making it back to philly during football season this year. but if i do, i'll do the same thing i do for every other game i go to and rely on one of you fargtards to provide me a ticket.
damn matty you slippin
FYI dallas is sunday nite
oh word. i only tried for less than 10 min. before giving up. something's a little shady though cuz i timed it perfectly, was all the way through to the buy tickets part of the call and it turned 10:00 within 10 seconds. all pairs were still gone.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 16, 2009, 10:30:08 AM
something's a little shady though
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if shtein works out i wont need tickets to go to these mother fargers
don't use the teeth.
you dont need to tell me how to suck a cock
has anyone on the waiting list gotten a call for tickets?
Quote from: dis12 on June 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
has anyone on the waiting list gotten a call for tickets?
lol
Quote from: dis12 on June 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
has anyone on the waiting list gotten a call for tickets?
sort of. i got a call last year with them offering me some sort of season long ultimate tailgating package but they wanted some unspeakable $ amount for it though. something like 2500 bucks per ticket and the only real "perk" that comes with it is you get to attend the "official eagles tailgate."
lame.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 16, 2009, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: dis12 on June 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
has anyone on the waiting list gotten a call for tickets?
sort of. i got a call last year with them offering me some sort of season long ultimate tailgating package but they wanted some unspeakable $ amount for it though. something like 2500 bucks per ticket and the only real "perk" that comes with it is you get to attend the "official eagles tailgate."
lame.
that has nothing to do with any waiting list tho...the average schmuck off the street can call up and order that package...they just use the waiting list as a telemarketing tool in this case
id like to know how many people have ever been called off the waiting list and offered non tailgate package non club seats
I'd bet those stats are 0 people called. They probably go right to RazorGator
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2009, 08:08:49 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 16, 2009, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: dis12 on June 16, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
has anyone on the waiting list gotten a call for tickets?
sort of. i got a call last year with them offering me some sort of season long ultimate tailgating package but they wanted some unspeakable $ amount for it though. something like 2500 bucks per ticket and the only real "perk" that comes with it is you get to attend the "official eagles tailgate."
lame.
that has nothing to do with any waiting list tho...the average schmuck off the street can call up and order that package...they just use the waiting list as a telemarketing tool in this case
id like to know how many people have ever been called off the waiting list and offered non tailgate package non club seats
that's why i said "sort of." i'm on the waiting list. i got a call. but not for actual season tickets.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 17, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
I'd bet those stats are 0 people called. They probably go right to RazorGator
or to people who have an in with the eagles somehow...whether it be an advertiser or some sort of vip associate of banner inc.
the probably give them to crippled employees.
I still love that i'm over 15k in the waiting list, and i've been on the list since 2001. But they insist i've only been on the list since 2005. They lost all the old ones, and after calling the ticket office 3 separate times, it doesnt make a difference if i'm 100 or 100000, i'll never see them unless somebody changes them over to me...Thanks PG :(
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 17, 2009, 11:09:48 AM
I still love that i'm over 15k in the waiting list, and i've been on the list since 2001. But they insist i've only been on the list since 2005. They lost all the old ones, and after calling the ticket office 3 separate times, it doesnt make a difference if i'm 100 or 100000, i'll never see them unless somebody changes them over to me...Thanks PG :(
well they dont allow you to switch names on an account like say the flyers do but what i was saying earlier in the thread was someone like you could have just paid her and murp when the invoice for tix was due and then she could have sent you the tickets when she got them...that way you get to go to games and they dont lose their season tickets forever
yeah i get that call about every other year for the million dollar club seats.
there's a guy on the emb that was 17th on the season ticket list and actually got regular upper level seats this year. i can't vouch for him but he seemed legit.
Season tickets came in the mail today.
FedEx delivered them a bit ago.
the perforation on them is the best its ever been
the negative this year is that the game numbers are small as shtein
i'm still waiting
Reid, Akers, Westbrook, Samuel, McNabb, Bradley, Curtis, Cole, Mikell & Jackson are on the tickets. The only surprise is Mikell.
I don't remember Reid being on the before, though.
You wanna sell any tickets let me know (all of yous)
I'm seriously thinking about selling the SBL's. I'd be happy to sell them to someone here but they'd have to go for market value. I don't mind selling the tickets for face value but the SBL's are a different story. I've seen prices around $15K for the two seats but that's more than I'd expect to get. They're in Section 110, Row 3, end seats right next to the Eagles tunnel. The seats directly in front of me are the ones they're trying to get 290 bucks a seat for.
If anyone's interested, let me know.
I'm not 100% sure about it - just tired of the bullshtein associated with the tickets.
what bullshtein?...if you dont wanna go to games for the time being just sell the seats every year to the same person...when the money is due they cut you a check...when you get the tickets in the mail you then send them to the person...boom...no bullshtein involved
and that way youre not losing your season tickets for what literally could be forever
i mean if you want the 15k i totally understand that but why give up your seats because of "bullshtein"
Romey, i cant afford 15k, but ill take a game or two off your hands.
$2,017.21 and that's my final offer
The bullshtein = waiting for payment every year from a certain someone. That's all. It's a pain in the ass especially now that money always seems to be a concern.
And I don't want to turn into a scalper with the tickets. I don't think it's right to overcharge "fans" for games even if the Eagles don't have a problem farging over anyone and everyone looking for them.
i just hate to hear of people having to give up their tickets....especially people i know
The last thing I want to do is get rid of them, trust me.
Shoot man, you could keep them and list them on StubHub at face are a hair over as to not gouge fans and you'd be able to keep them.
I know you'd probably sell half your games on this site alone
can't you kick this idiot to the curb and find somebody else to buy your tix? seems they are taking advantage of your generosity.
and i'm sure it's somebody here...farg em
I know I'd buy at least one game from ya this year and maybe more in coming years...you gotta hold onto them, Romey.
Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
can't you kick this idiot to the curb and find somebody else to buy your tix? seems they are taking advantage of your generosity.
and i'm sure it's somebody here...farg em
He's my oldest friend and he was the best man in my wedding, so no, I can't kick him to the curb. I wouldn't mind kicking him in the ass, though.
i know 15 people who would take them and they know all know another 150 probably
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 23, 2009, 04:06:15 PM
Shoot man, you could keep them and list them on StubHub at face are a hair over as to not gouge fans and you'd be able to keep them.
farg that shtein....you dont wanna scalp to a friend sure...but i already told romey to sell them on stubhub or to a ticket agency and make a bunch of money
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2009, 03:44:12 PM
The bullshtein = waiting for payment every year from a certain someone. That's all. It's a pain in the ass especially now that money always seems to be a concern.
And I don't want to turn into a scalper with the tickets. I don't think it's right to overcharge "fans" for games even if the Eagles don't have a problem farging over anyone and everyone looking for them.
does this mean that you have a partner who splits the cost of everything 50/50 with you? if that's the case, i'm sure that someone from the board would be willing and able to pick up the slack and be a better ticket parter.
and someone explain the sbl thing for me. i read up on it and got some good info about it when the eagles first opened the new stadium but i don't remember exactly how it went. from what i understand, those who have sbl's can sell it for whatever price they can get and the season tickets have to go with it (at the cost of the tickets). the sbl is a one time purchase but then the owner is still obligated to puchase the season tickets every year from the team and whatever price the team sets.
is that pretty much how it works?
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2009, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
can't you kick this idiot to the curb and find somebody else to buy your tix? seems they are taking advantage of your generosity.
and i'm sure it's somebody here...farg em
He's my oldest friend and he was the best man in my wedding, so no, I can't kick him to the curb. I wouldn't mind kicking him in the ass, though.
that's a really big ass to kick.
I think Leo Carlin just called and yelled at me to update my waiting list information
how else is he supposed to know if he should mail the turkey hill touchdown sundae coupons to the same place
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2009, 09:35:56 AM
how else is he supposed to know if he should mail the turkey hill touchdown sundae coupons to the same place
So the message was Leo yelling that I haven't updated my account and they cant find an email address for me, and if i dont respond via phone or email i will lose my spot by Monday. I went on PE.com, couldnt get in using my old account password. I went and did the Forgot Password option, and they emailed me a password. So if its that tough to get ahold of me via email, how do you have my email setup for password retrieveal. Schiesters
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 14, 2009, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 14, 2009, 09:35:56 AM
how else is he supposed to know if he should mail the turkey hill touchdown sundae coupons to the same place
So the message was Leo yelling that I haven't updated my account and they cant find an email address for me, and if i dont respond via phone or email i will lose my spot by Monday. I went on PE.com, couldnt get in using my old account password. I went and did the Forgot Password option, and they emailed me a password. So if its that tough to get ahold of me via email, how do you have my email setup for password retrieveal. Schiesters
I got the same shtein.
And the same thing happened last year too. They told me they did not have my updated e-mail information. So i called them and gave them my e-mail, and they sent me something last year.
I got the call this morning saying the same thing - not a good email.
Bullshtein. I'm gonna call them later
the funny part was the guy was yelling in the message.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 23, 2009, 11:09:51 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2009, 03:44:12 PM
The bullshtein = waiting for payment every year from a certain someone. That's all. It's a pain in the ass especially now that money always seems to be a concern.
And I don't want to turn into a scalper with the tickets. I don't think it's right to overcharge "fans" for games even if the Eagles don't have a problem farging over anyone and everyone looking for them.
does this mean that you have a partner who splits the cost of everything 50/50 with you? if that's the case, i'm sure that someone from the board would be willing and able to pick up the slack and be a better ticket parter.
and someone explain the sbl thing for me. i read up on it and got some good info about it when the eagles first opened the new stadium but i don't remember exactly how it went. from what i understand, those who have sbl's can sell it for whatever price they can get and the season tickets have to go with it (at the cost of the tickets). the sbl is a one time purchase but then the owner is still obligated to puchase the season tickets every year from the team and whatever price the team sets.
is that pretty much how it works?
Yes
we're also contractually required to by all playoff tickets. if you don't you lose the sbl's. at this point they're worth 3-4 times what i paid for them, but i swear to god, if i had someone offer me the right price i'd farging sell the things in a second. my buddy would probably be upset, but shtein, things are tight as a motherfarger for us and a guy's gotta do what he's gotta do...
Quote from: Rome on October 14, 2009, 07:16:08 PM
we're also contractually required to by all playoff tickets. if you don't you lose the sbl's.
holy shtein i did not know that.....that is absolutely ridiculous
igy, you have season tickets that didn't require an sbl, right?
correct
number 135 on the new list. so i moved up about 40 since last year.
My brother-in-law has a buddy looking to dump his SBL's and tickets. Two tickets, apparently on the 30-yard line 30 rows up, $8000. I may hit it.
Is that the going rate for SBL's?
Apparently it's what he paid for them. Just looking to get his $$ back.
Yeah, I'm guessing if he sold to a stranger or was looking to cake off on them, he could sell them for a lot more.
no chance you could get anywhere close to that amount
Don't underestimate peoples stupidity. People overpay for shtein every day and there's suckas out there dying to get an sbl.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2010, 12:53:09 PM
no chance you could get anywhere close to that amount
So you're saying $8000 would be overpaying?
incredibly...in fact ill sell you one of my seats RIGHT NOW for 2500
You just have season tix though, right? No sbl?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 12, 2010, 01:16:03 PM
incredibly...in fact ill sell you one of my seats RIGHT NOW for 2500
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 12, 2010, 01:16:58 PM
You just have season tix though, right? No sbl?
It's not an Eagles-owned SBL... This is an IGY SBL - for the honor of sitting with the big guy at every game.
sbl's mean less than nothing....which is why no one would ever pay eight g's for one...well not no one but you get the idea
whats the difference whether you pay me for the right to get a seat or pay him?
A fancy certificate of some sort?
a halftime reacharound each game?
You can't get season tickets from the Eagles unless they're premium seats.
But yes, SBL's are definitely worth less than nothing.
i just emailed four of my seatmates to ask them what the face value is on our season tickets and not only does no one know for sure (including me) but i got three different answers as to what they think it is