Fire Chip Kelly

[Rome]

People want creativity from Kelly AND three handoffs to Shady at the three.

No doubt I would have packed em in tight and done that but it's funny that when he does something unexpected or off the cuff he's all of a sudden not ready for the NFL.

The guy is learning.  He has to have time to settle in and learn the nuances of the pro game.  I mean shtein... Andy Reid was horrible his first year.   He was never Don Shula but he got better.  Give the dude some time to sort it out before we call for his scalp.

[ice grillin you]

actually andy got worse as he went along

andy also was on nfl coaching staffs for a long time and superbowl winning ones at that with all kinds of great minds around him

chip was at new hampshire a few years ago has never sniffed the nfl and is probably only suited for the college game

[Rome]

Reid was 5-11 his first year and got better until it fell apart in 2005.   That's six years and you're ready to shteincan Kelly after half a season.

And stop bringing up New Hampshire as if that initial experience (which he was successful at) has anything to do with him now.   He's a young and smart guy without the sort of talent needed to win in his system.

[smeags]

So what people cant question mistakes now ?  Im not asking for his head but you do not need to be don shula to know maybe you dont call a play like that with a rookie qb who barely took reps during the week.

[ice grillin you]

just because a team wins doesnt mean the head coach is coaching well....andy got noticeably worse in game management as his tenure went along...some of that may be because we kept seeing the same things over and over....but he wasnt a better coach in 2004 because they made the superbowl than he was in 2005 when they missed the playoffs

[ice grillin you]

i had to watch the game again to see if i imagined the rollout play with barkley that turned into a fumble at the 2.

i didnt hear if chip had a reason for that play if was a designed rollout or if barkley tried to do something on his own.

100% it was a call to move the qb out of the pocket and then have the option to throw it to pimp at the goal line to the te (i think it was celek) running in the back of the end zone or run it in.....the problem is that play is drawn up with a running qb in mind (mike vick) and if vick had been in there and gets the edge on thomas and he scores...but if you are chipper you have to dry erase that play from your card if barkley is in the game and he just didnt do it

[SD]

Reid was 5-11 his first year and got better until it fell apart in 2005.   That's six years and you're ready to shteincan Kelly after half a season.

Reid had a lot less talent to work with especially on offense.

I give Chip 3 years. Year one he gets his feet wet. Year two he gets his QB. Year 3 if they don't resemble a contender or at the very least are a playoff team he needs to go.

[General_Failure]

The one thing that Kelly seemed to have going for him was that he would tailor the offense to best suit the players on the field......specifically the QB.  But that's the exact opposite of what we saw when Barkley came in.

Barkley can't run and can't hit a receiver to save his life. What are you supposed to do to tailor an offense to that?

[smeags]

snap it straight to shady ? 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33s

Barkley has never taken a rep with that goal-line play Chip called. Barkley said he's watched it and seen it on film, but different in game

[smeags]

chip was being creative.

[Rome]

Reid was 5-11 his first year and got better until it fell apart in 2005.   That's six years and you're ready to shteincan Kelly after half a season.

Reid had a lot less talent to work with especially on offense.

I give Chip 3 years. Year one he gets his feet wet. Year two he gets his QB. Year 3 if they don't resemble a contender or at the very least are a playoff team he needs to go.

3 years is all sorts of reasonable.   Probably more reasonable than I'd be.

[Eagles_Legendz]

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 33s

Barkley has never taken a rep with that goal-line play Chip called. Barkley said he's watched it and seen it on film, but different in game

Barkely has no pocket awareness.  Regardless of familiarity with the play, and how bad of a play call it was, Barkley has to know to throw the ball away there.  He and Foles both seem allergic to that.

[Diomedes]

I know you aren't saying so, but I have to point out that Vick could hardly be praised for his pocket awareness and knowing when to get rid of the ball.  Of the three, Foles is best on this point.

[Eagles_Legendz]

I know you aren't saying so, but I have to point out that Vick could hardly be praised for his pocket awareness and knowing when to get rid of the ball.  Of the three, Foles is best on this point.

Vick holds onto the ball longer than Foles.  My days of ever wanting to see Vick take the field as an Eagle are long gone.  He does throw the ball away though after running around for too long.  Foles and Barkley don't seem to be big fans of that.  Hopefully it will come in time, I just was floored when Barkley, after avoiding the first sack, just didn't toss the ball away last week.