2012 Off-Season Thread

[ice grillin you]

mularky
fisher
dave toub
gruden
bill obrien
todd bowles

shtein id be open to almost anyone

i think you could do very well to take a shot at greg williams....hes an excellent defensive coach (which would definitely be my priority) whos first HC stint was with a dysfunctional bills franchise...by no means am i comparing the two but the situation hes in isnt totally different than bellicheks was when he was hired by new england after having coached in cleveland

[TexasEagle]

It doesn't really matter who.... that's the point people keep glossing over. Any name anyone throws out there is going to be met with a litany of excuses and reasons why *that* guy won't be better than Reid is now while ignoring that Reid was a nobody (as a head coach) before he got hired.

Did you know who Andy Reid was before he became the coach because I sure as hell didn't. Sure the next guy might be worse. But he might be better. The whole point is it's INSANE to keep Reid because you're (generic you there) afraid of losing the winning ways that the Eagles haven't had in years anyway. Keep in mind, the only reason the team last made the playoffs is because they backed in similar to how Denver did this year.

You don't keep Reid because you're afraid the next guy might not be better. That's a loser mentality. You get rid of Reid because he can't get the job done and the next guy might be able to. The lack of a guarantee shouldn't preclude making a change. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but only losers and failures refuse to try and make a change for the better when the current situation is obviously not working.

[General_Failure]

Mike McMahon.


Is there another Harbaugh out there looking for a job? How about the Lesser Ryan from Dallas? I'd say give Mike Nolan another shot if he hadn't just taken a new job.

[reese125]

It doesn't really matter who.... that's the point people keep glossing over. Any name anyone throws out there is going to be met with a litany of excuses and reasons why *that* guy won't be better than Reid is now while ignoring that Reid was a nobody (as a head coach) before he got hired.

Did you know who Andy Reid was before he became the coach because I sure as hell didn't. Sure the next guy might be worse. But he might be better. The whole point is it's INSANE to keep Reid because you're (generic you there) afraid of losing the winning ways that the Eagles haven't had in years anyway. Keep in mind, the only reason the team last made the playoffs is because they backed in similar to how Denver did this year.

You don't keep Reid because you're afraid the next guy might not be better. That's a loser mentality. You get rid of Reid because he can't get the job done and the next guy might be able to. The lack of a guarantee shouldn't preclude making a change. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but only losers and failures refuse to try and make a change for the better when the current situation is obviously not working.

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[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The fundamental disagreement here is whether you think the coach will improve the team's chances with the likely players and FO personnel around him. I think that if this core of players and Banner/Roseman have any chance to win a Super Bowl, Reid is the best bet. Different story if Lurie were willing to clean house.

I would fire... The entire coaching staff.
Banner.
Roseman.
Vick.

Since the last three guys are sticking around for 2012, Reid is the best hope to win it. Despite his heft and in-game idiocy.

[Tomahawk]

It doesn't really matter who.... that's the point people keep glossing over. Any name anyone throws out there is going to be met with a litany of excuses and reasons why *that* guy won't be better than Reid is now while ignoring that Reid was a nobody (as a head coach) before he got hired.

Did you know who Andy Reid was before he became the coach because I sure as hell didn't. Sure the next guy might be worse. But he might be better. The whole point is it's INSANE to keep Reid because you're (generic you there) afraid of losing the winning ways that the Eagles haven't had in years anyway. Keep in mind, the only reason the team last made the playoffs is because they backed in similar to how Denver did this year.

You don't keep Reid because you're afraid the next guy might not be better. That's a loser mentality. You get rid of Reid because he can't get the job done and the next guy might be able to. The lack of a guarantee shouldn't preclude making a change. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but only losers and failures refuse to try and make a change for the better when the current situation is obviously not working.

Truth but what's really being glossed over is the Eagles have no chance, ever, with Banner Inc.

[MDS]

They can win with banner, the phillies won with Montgomery

They can't win with roseman. Or Reid.

[ice grillin you]

I think that if this core of players and Banner/Roseman have any chance to win a Super Bowl, Reid is the best bet. Different story if Lurie were willing to clean house.


Since the last three guys are sticking around for 2012, Reid is the best hope to win it. Despite his heft and in-game idiocy.

i dont get this line of thinking at all...what is your reasonign for this

first of all they have no chance at all to win with this roster...but throw that out for a minute...why does reid banner howie have a better chance next year at the sb than say cowher banner howie

[reese125]

And what's this special core of players people keep talking about? What core on this team has what it takes to even win a sb?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I never said I thought this core was special or that they could/would win a Super Bowl. But I do believe that if they have any chance, Reid is the guy who can milk the most out of them.

With playmakers like Shady and DeSean on the team, a QB that can get the ball to them accurately and efficiently is the best option. Also, the team needs a completely revamped LB corps to compliment the wide nine. Can't tell the ends to get penetration at all costs when the LBs are incapable of shedding blocks and making plays.

Schefter just said that Andy will be the coach for as long as he wants to be. Anyone want to sell me your season tickets?

[PhillyGirl]

How happy are the Flyers that no ones talking about blowing a 2 goal lead in the biggest game of the season.

LOL in January.

[ice grillin you]

Schefter just said that Andy will be the coach for as long as he wants to be.

im being literal when i say this...you know more about the eagles inner workings than schefter

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, as long as you're asking for my opinion, I really do think that Lurie is giving Andy one last chance in 2012. His contract runs through 2013, and it's rare that a coach sticks around without a contract extension for the last season of the deal.

That said I don't know if Lurie draws the line for next year at "Super Bowl or GTFO" or if an improvement and a playoff berth is all it would take. Of course the latter would be infuriating for all.

[SunMo]

he didn't finish the sentence though..

"im being literal when i say this...you know more about the eagles inner workings than schefter...and a rock knows more than you do"

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yeah, but my typing skills are vastly superior.