Joe Banner Is The Prince Of Darkness

Started by Rome, April 24, 2009, 05:42:52 AM

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Seabiscuit36

Banner is why i've stopped loving the birds as much as i did around 2000.  He's went from a guy who was really a cap genius to a complete and total douchbag doing the Ed Wade, "Fans are morons" schtick. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 24, 2009, 11:19:31 AM
Banner is why i've stopped loving the birds as much as i did around 2000. 

this is so true....and so sad

theres a part of me that doesnt want the team to win because i dont want banner to hold a championship and tell us i told you so for the rest of his life

and it makes me so mad and sickened to feel like that
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

you almost root for a couple of real bad seasons in a row so the anger level can reach its top point. with that, maybe season tickets sales will be low enough that those who remain can pull a "either banner goes or we go" like the phillies ticket holders did with ed wade.

thats the only way.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Seabiscuit36

yep, thats where i really am now, i dont have season tickets, still would love them, but i have no problem not going to games so i dont support this shtein anymore.  I did the same thing with the Phils, it worked out in my mind, lets hope Lurie understands. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

General_Failure

On the plus side, this Eagles team will never win a championship, so you don't have to worry about Banner doing a supermsug "told ya, bitches!"

The man. The myth. The legend.

Drunkmasterflex

If they win a championship I don't care what Banner says, it will be easy to ignore then. 
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PhillyPhreak54

Banner is a douche. A bona fide weasel.

But I could never let his attitude affect my fanaticism. Winning a SB and the ensuing parade would be enough to stifle the puke down when he gets smug about it.

SD_Eagle5

This is shocking


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QuoteBanner: Birds' roster best in NFL
By Bob Ford

Inquirer Sports Columnist

The NFL off-season is all about planning and preparation, the mental dress rehearsal for the long march that, for the Eagles, begins today when rookies report to training camp.

Joe Banner, the team president, the guy who is mainly responsible for directing the front office in assembling the roster the head coach wants, had a long, exhausting off-season. Two player trades, nearly two dozen contracts to negotiate and execute, some hard decisions on having to move past players, particularly Brian Dawkins, who had meant a lot to the franchise.

"All of it had both personal and professional connections and they were tough decisions, emotionally difficult, and, frankly, a little scary," Banner said.

He knows you probably don't care about his problems, or that it was a tough off-season. What you care about is winning.

In that case, Banner has some good news. He likes the way things came out.

"I feel this year we have the best roster in the league," Banner said. "That's assuming everyone is healthy and standing at the end. You can only make a statement like that on the first day of training camp. After that, anything can happen."

Football is a capricious game. Its most important players can disappear on any play, and its most important moments are not decided best-of-seven. The careful plans and preparations can be blown apart in an instant. But you already knew that.

Banner also said he thought the Eagles had the NFL's best roster in 2003 and 2004 and even last season - "as crazy as it sounds given the way the regular season went" - he said he thought the roster ranked among the top three in the league.

"You get humbled over the years, but since I've been working in the league I don't think the best team has won the Super Bowl any year," Banner said. "You get a ball bouncing the wrong way, a bad call from the ref, a windy day when you plan to throw a lot. You lose once. Even if you get to the playoffs, and it's a year where most people would say you did really good, you don't feel satisfied. There are just too many things out of your control."

In a way, the careful planning, the painstaking structuring of contracts and massaging of the salary cap that goes on in every NFL front office is exactly the opposite of the sometimes random events on the field. David Tyree did not plan to catch a football against his helmet. It just kind of happened.

If you are someone who likes to control outcomes - Joe Banner fits that description - it is a game that can be frustrating to the point of breaking. That hasn't happened yet, though, and owner Jeff Lurie, Banner and head coach Andy Reid enter their 11th season together.

"I'm extremely excited about this team, the most I've been in a long time," Banner said.

Of course, it might not work again. And if it doesn't, the Eagles will hear what they did wrong. If they had spent more money, if they had kept Dawkins, if they had been willing to dispense with their legendary frugality. Of all the criticisms, that argument is the only one that irks Banner. Well, the only one that really, really irks him.

"I work for an owner, and my job is to apply his philosophy. He says that making money as the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles means nothing, it doesn't change his life. But winning a championship would be a thrill that would change his life forever. Executing that philosophy is our focus," Banner said. "As for the rest, we're big boys. Getting criticized for how the team performs comes with the territory. But I don't like criticism of our character, our integrity and our commitment to winning. I can't tell you that doesn't bother me."

A lot of what Banner does is about the money side of things, though. There's no getting around that, and he tries to get the best deals for his employer. This off-season, much of the work has involved trying to foresee the future. If the league and the players union don't agree on a new collective-bargaining agreement by March, the 2010 season will operate without a salary cap.

No one really knows if that will happen or what it will mean if it does. The uncertainty has made this off-season unusual. When the Eagles signed Jason Peters, the contract was written so that some of the future money can be designated as either signing bonus or roster bonus or salary bonus, depending on how the rules are eventually written.

An uncapped year would also mean that players will need six years of service time rather than four in order to become free agents. The Eagles have several key players - including Chris Gocong, Max Jean-Gilles, Ellis Hobbs, Hank Baskett and Brodrick Bunkley - who could be caught when that window closes. It will be interesting to see how the organization approaches those contracts.

"The reality is that everybody's guessing what will happen," Banner said. "We're trying to give ourselves some flexibility down the road that may turn out to be worthless or it may have some value. We just don't know, but we're trying to be as prepared as possible."

The front-office preparation begins to give way to the preparation on the field today. The balance will shift completely in a month and then little matters but those bounces of the football and fickle shifts in the wind.

"It's so hard to win a championship," Banner said. "There's so much more to it than just having the best team."

That's a pretty good way to start, however, and Joe Banner said he thinks the Eagles have the best team. He has thought that before, too, and one of these days he expects it to finally matter in the end.


Rome

"It's so hard to win a championship," Banner said. "There's so much more to it than just having the best team."

lolol

General_Failure

Not being completely oblivious might help.

The man. The myth. The legend.

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

DH

You're all full of shtein. If this team won the SB this year, not a single one of you would give a shtein who was running the squad. The "I root against the team because of Banner (or Reid, or McNabb, etc)" schtick is utterly ridiculous. 

Rome

I went to the Super Bowl in Jacksonville to cheer against the Eagles.

There.  I said it.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Die-Hard on July 26, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
You're all full of shtein. If this team won the SB this year, not a single one of you would give a shtein who was running the squad. The "I root against the team because of Banner (or Reid, or McNabb, etc)" schtick is utterly ridiculous. 

i absolutely do and would care...its not even a question that banner winning a title would have a souring effect for me...doesnt mean i wouldnt love for them to do....and id be at the parade...but it wouldnt be as enjoyable to me as the phillies winning last year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

I'd be happy about the win, but I sure as hell wouldn't turn on the tv for a while.

The man. The myth. The legend.