Joe Banner Is The Prince Of Darkness

Started by Rome, April 24, 2009, 05:42:52 AM

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Rome

Eh, why not?

QuoteGonzo: Banner's silence would be golden

By John Gonzalez

Inquirer Columnist
This may surprise you, but I truly want Joe Banner and the Eagles' front office to succeed. When the Birds' brains excel, the team wins, and so do the fans.

That's why I'm offering Banner some free advice: Shut up. Please.

Step away from the microphone, Joe. Avoid all cameras and tape recorders. If you see someone coming at you with a pen and a notebook, cross the street and head in the other direction. It's for the best.

Every time the man opens his mouth, he invariably angers someone. Banner is the team's president and chief spokesman and, for reasons that defy logic, the face of the franchise. He's probably good at the first job, but he's particularly ill-suited for the last two. It's like asking a carnival midget to box out in a pickup basketball game.

Yesterday, Banner and Mayor Nutter appeared separately on the morning show of WIP-AM (610). Both addressed the ongoing legal tiff between the city and the team. Guess who sounded more sympathetic.

"My position is very direct, very simple, and very clear," the mayor said. "There's a judgment with regard to the sky box revenues that was determined to be at least $8 million. Pay that. Pay it now."

When Banner went on the air, he swore to the team's secret, undocumented side deal with former Mayor John F. Street - an agreement that supposedly would have allowed the Birds to settle their debt with the city for far less than $8 million. Even for a team owned by a billionaire, $8 million is a fair amount of money. But paying up has to be a better alternative than accruing all this negative publicity by linking the Eagles to Street.

Why would you admit to having an under-the-table deal with a shady administration that was tainted by a sweeping corruption scandal? And hinting that Street is a liar wins the Eagles no points. They still look dirty by association.

But here's where the Eagles continue to really go wrong: If you're dead set on fighting City Hall, you need to do so carefully. To successfully navigate through endless news cycles, you need a representative with credibility and aplomb. Someone who connects with the people. Someone with wit and charm and, above all, tact. Someone, in other words, who's the opposite of Banner.

When reminded yesterday that the city is broke and the Eagles aren't, Banner's response was obtuse.

"Listen, they are not broke," Banner said. "They are spending billions of dollars. They're just spending more than they have. Anyone can make that mistake. The city has got a massive, massive budget."

Sigh.

Google City of Philadelphia and budget deficit and see what you come up with. I'm no numbers cruncher and I've never been good with a calculator, but I'm fairly certain that when you owe $1.4 billion more than you have, that means you're pretty well tapped out.

Part of the reason Philadelphia still has a massive operating budget is that essential civil services need funding. Otherwise, things would get awfully ugly around here. If Banner wants to tell cops to stop policing the streets or teachers to stop educating kids or garbage men to stop picking up trash, he's welcome to do so. But some of us actually live in this city, and we'd prefer that it not resemble a wretched, post-apocalyptic Kevin Costner movie.

But Banner knows all that. He knows the city is hard up for cash. He's not dumb. He's just playing dumb in public to curry favor. And it's not working. It never does.

Unfortunately, the news coming out of the NovaCare Complex frequently has nothing to do with football and everything to do with the insensitive, boorish, greedy, out-of-touch knotheads who run the franchise the way Kennedy handled the Bay of Pigs operation - stupidly, and with no real understanding of why public perception matters or how quickly it can sink you.

This flap with the city is just one more badly bungled PR affair. Hoagiegate. Terrell Owens. Lito Sheppard. Brian Dawkins. Dan Leone, the stadium worker who criticized the team on Facebook because it let Dawkins walk. The inflammatory statement the Eagles released on Sheldon Brown. And those are just the fires I can remember. All those situations required expert spin and a deft touch, and all were botched in one way or another.

The Eagles aren't always to blame, and neither is Banner. But when you're the go-to spokesman for all major matters, your job is to solve the problem even if you didn't create it. Or if you can't solve it, you at least need to make it go away.

That's the issue with Banner. He's often dismissive and smug. It's hard for people to warm up to someone who snickers at them while explaining why the Eagles are right and everyone else is wrong. Put simply, he often makes things worse.

While I'm dispensing free advice, I have some for Jeffrey Lurie: You need to find a new face for your franchise, and you need to do it right now. It can't wait any longer. I'm not saying you should fire Banner. You just need to keep him out of the spotlight.

If you're wondering, I have no idea who should serve as the front man. But we all know who shouldn't.

SD_Eagle5

That article was right on the money. I can't see Lurie being so out of touch with the situation that he doesn't know whats really going on. Makes me think he just cares about the bottom line.

ice grillin you

thats what i dont get...lurie by all accounts seems like an intelligent thoughtful geniunely nice person...i understand they are childhood buddies but how can he have someone like banner as his point man

ps - all hail romey and gonzo
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

Did Lurie ever get around to paying the NFL the money he owes for buying the team in the first place?

The man. The myth. The legend.

PhillyPhreak54

Damn, good to see Gonzalez step away from the usual garbage that he writes and hit a homer with this one. Every single point was spot on.

And I agree with igy; why is Lurie allowing Joey to be the front man? One of the best things about Lurie is that he mostly stays in the shadows, like an owner should. But he cannot be blind to the damage that Banner's mouth causes, can he?

Unless Lurie has us fooled and he feels what Joe says, but he dispatches the bulldog to be his mouthpiece and take the negative PR while he tucks himself away and looks like the good guy.

Tomahawk

What was Hoagiegate?

I think we all know who should be the front man should be - Dave Spadaro

ice grillin you

Quote
FANS FUME OVER HOAGIE BAN
By DON RUSSELL

ON DAY TWO of Hoagiegate, the prosciutto hit the fan.

The Philadelphia Eagles angrily dug in their heels, saying they would "never" lift their ban on BYO food at the new Lincoln Financial Field.

Citywide, hoagie-makers, worried about lost sales, turned red as a cherry pepper.

And fans, accusing owner Jeffrey Lurie of price-gouging at the taxpayer-funded stadium, started talking about a boycott.

Meanwhile, the Daily News is starting a petition drive, formally asking the Eagles to drop the ban.

The furor centers on a team decision to prohibit fans from bringing outside food into the stadium, which opens next month. Team President Joe Banner contended the ban was a necessity brought about by the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack at the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Yesterday, Banner said the team instituted the ban following recommendations from numerous security consultants, including the state Office of Homeland Security.

In a testy press conference at the Eagles' South Philadelphia training facility, he accused critics of putting snack food ahead of fan safety.

"You're putting the fans' lives at danger," Banner said.

Asked whether other sports facilities, including Veterans Stadium, are jeopardizing fan safety by permitting BYO food, he said, "That's their decision...It would be foolish and irresponsible of us to ignore the experts."

Was he worried about terrorists smuggling a bomb inside an Italian hoagie?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

and no thats not out of the onion....it really all went down...only in philly
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Feva

Quote"You're putting the fans' lives at danger," Banner said.

From a farging hoagie...

That line cracked me up then, and it still does now.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

ice grillin you

that line is exactly why i mentioned the onion...cant you see an exact quote like that in a million of their stories over the years

except banner really said it
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

i think ive said this 100000 million times before but the only way to truly make a change is to stop the $ flow. like we love this team more than we despise banner but sometimes, for the greater good, you gotta suck it up.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

ive never paid for any of the midnight green stuff...does that count for anything?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Quote from: MDS on April 24, 2009, 12:05:39 PM
i think ive said this 100000 million times before but the only way to truly make a change is to stop the $ flow. like we love this team more than we despise banner but sometimes, for the greater good, you gotta suck it up.

Already done.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

MDS

ummm no not really.

this is 100 % impossible to do but eagles fans as a whole need to not go to the games or not renew season tickets. just flat out embarrass the organization. the problem is they are probably never going to be bad enough where people could get fired up to do something like that. so for the end of time, this is what we got.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

not go to games....bwahahahahaha

you know that banner being an ahole and the team making money are mutually exclusive

there are teams that dont have condescending douchebags as team presidents that also cake off
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous