Sheldon Brown wants to be traded

Started by SD_Eagle5, April 20, 2009, 01:49:51 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

#120
Quote from: Eagaholic on April 21, 2009, 04:11:35 AM
an expanded article on the Eagle's quote

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090421_Birds_tell_Brown__No_trade__no_raise.html

QuoteThe Eagles obviously remember what Brown's agent, Jason Chayut, said when the cornerback signed a six-year contract extension potentially worth $30 million in the middle of the Eagles' 2004 run to the Super Bowl.

"We didn't need to do this now, but this deal was too attractive and too important not to get it done," Chayut said at the time. "They made him a multimillionaire, taking all the risk out of injury. He's set for life."

Well, then...  I guess the team is totally in the wrong, right?

Come on, folks.  There are two sides to this story.  Try to make it black and white if you want, but there are no winners here.
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Eagles president Joe Banner was asked Sunday about the potential for contract disputes based on the lucrative deals the Eagles have given this off-season to new offensive tackles Stacy Andrews and Jason Peters. Banner admitted that it can be difficult to keep everybody happy.

The truth is, it's impossible. And now Brown is the newest dissenting voice in the Eagles' locker room.

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ice grillin you

pretty sure banner and lurie are set for life as well and arent putting their future health on the line everyday like sheldon has and is...the market place says hes under paid...either pay him or go with iggywanoo...we will see how much the eagles truly want to win i suppose

when you create a culture like the eagles have this is what happens...when you treat legends like brian dawkins the way they did this is what happens..then you have lito who bitched his ass off for two years and got rewarded for it...sheldon is gonna be like ive done the right thing for five years and joselio hanson is making more than me??

chickens coming home to roost


Quote from: reese125 on April 20, 2009, 11:05:26 PM
Im still trying to figure out why everyone is so enamored with Sheldon Brown. You cant live without all those int's, blazing speed and great hands.... or maybe its the stellar championship game performance he had?

so unless you think hes a shut down corner hes getting paid just fine and in the wrong for coming out like that...but keep blaming the FO

name me ten all around corners in the nfl that are significantly better than sheldon brown

as for being paid just fine you clearly have no idea what corners around the nfl make
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

reese125

#122
SHELDON BROWN CANNOT COVER ELITE WIDE RECEIVERS

He hasnt come close to outperforming his contract and the fact that theres 3 years left is laughable for him to come out and bitch.  The FO is right on this one

You on the other hand will bitch about the FO until youre blue in the face regardless of any situation, so please continue about more farm animals coming home...

oh your 10 better than him--yeah no problem
1) Cortland Finnegan
2) Nnamdi Asomugha
3) Kelvin Hayden
4) Antonio Cromartie
5) Champ Bailey
6) Marcus Trufant
7) Charles Woodson
8) Darelle Revis
9) Antoine Winfield
10) Al Harris

and theres more I could throw up here....




SunMo

the funniest part about the Eagles being so heavy handed about a contract is the fact that they just benefited from a player bitching about his contract in Peters. 
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

hahaha @ al harris and hayden

cromartie gets absolutely toasted on the regular and last year he didnt even at least make big time plays to go along with it like he did in 07

winfield is a shell of his former self


theres a few guys on there that are clearly better bailey asomugha trufant...and there might be some youd rather have than sheldon because of age...but there isnt ten corners in the nfl that are significantly better than him...there isnt that many real good corners to begin with which is why the price of a good corner has skyrockeed inthe last several years


Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
the funniest part about the Eagles being so heavy handed about a contract is the fact that they just benefited from a player bitching about his contract in Peters. 

yeah rhea brought that up on wip and has been talking about it all morning...banner inc are the ultimate hypocrites
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
the funniest part about the Eagles being so heavy handed about a contract is the fact that they just benefited from a player bitching about his contract in Peters. 

ding
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Tomahawk

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2009, 09:12:45 AMwinfield is a shell of his former self

That's not really true. According to his stats, http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=1775, last year was one of the best he's had.


ice grillin you

football stats are largely meaningless especially at cb

he isnt a bum by any means...hes a good corner...but hes not even close to the lock down type corner he was when he left buffalo
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 21, 2009, 09:31:31 AM
Quote from: SunMo on April 21, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
the funniest part about the Eagles being so heavy handed about a contract is the fact that they just benefited from a player bitching about his contract in Peters. 

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That is actually ironic.  But ultimately, who was right in the Bills/Peters disagreement?  Peters obviously ended up getting the better end of the disagreement, as evidenced by his massive shiny contract, but was it right for him to basically quit on his team?  Should the Eagles have made an ethical stand and not signed him?  Should the Eagles not be signing any very good players to big deals to avoid jealousy?  Should they revisit the value of all of their contracts every year and look to re-up all players to market value?  Maybe the league should just pay all players based on market value and performance, and take the teams' FO's out?

Seriously, fargtards... How you can take ANY side on this is beyond me.  But have fun.

SunMo

how can you take any side?  you go case by case.

Westbrook = player
Lito = team
Sheldon = i lean towards player
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

when the eagles are a trillion dollars under the cap and were two minutes away from the superbowl they should take care of a top player on their team who is underpaid and at a position of no depth...otherwise you have to question their committment to winning...to spin this into some kind of moral stance is idiotic...this is about football and winning a title

the caveat here is if sheldon is asking for asante type money...and if thats what hes doing then he can go to hell
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

It's easy to take a side after the situations play out.  I still think Lito has a solid argument that he got a raw deal.  Westbrook has been so great for this team, that's it's hard to side against him.  The team would be worse without Sheldon Brown, and he has been a solid and occasionally great Eagle.  But even when he signed the last deal, his agent is on record as to why.

My sticking point on this is that Sheldon has not exceeded the expectations of that last deal.  He's played a lot of games, and he's done well, but he's not significantly better than anyone thought he'd be.  So, for him to sit out and DEMAND a new contract seems a bit too much.  Still, I think the players have a right to try to get paid, as long as they live up to their existing contract in the mean time.  Like Jason Peters, only the exact opposite.

SunMo

Les Bowen is on the radio now saying that Sheldon has been asking to sit down through back channels and Banner wouldn't even meet with him.  That's why Sheldon finally decided to come out public.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:19:54 PM
It's easy to take a side after the situations play out.  I still think Lito has a solid argument that he got a raw deal.  Westbrook has been so great for this team, that's it's hard to side against him.  The team would be worse without Sheldon Brown, and he has been a solid and occasionally great Eagle.  But even when he signed the last deal, his agent is on record as to why.

My sticking point on this is that Sheldon has not exceeded the expectations of that last deal.  He's played a lot of games, and he's done well, but he's not significantly better than anyone thought he'd be.  So, for him to sit out and DEMAND a new contract seems a bit too much.  Still, I think the players have a right to try to get paid, as long as they live up to their existing contract in the mean time.  Like Jason Peters, only the exact opposite.
so its appropriate that Joselio the Dong Hanson is getting paid more than him? 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 21, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 21, 2009, 12:19:54 PM
It's easy to take a side after the situations play out.  I still think Lito has a solid argument that he got a raw deal.  Westbrook has been so great for this team, that's it's hard to side against him.  The team would be worse without Sheldon Brown, and he has been a solid and occasionally great Eagle.  But even when he signed the last deal, his agent is on record as to why.

My sticking point on this is that Sheldon has not exceeded the expectations of that last deal.  He's played a lot of games, and he's done well, but he's not significantly better than anyone thought he'd be.  So, for him to sit out and DEMAND a new contract seems a bit too much.  Still, I think the players have a right to try to get paid, as long as they live up to their existing contract in the mean time.  Like Jason Peters, only the exact opposite.
so its appropriate that Joselio the Dong Hanson is getting paid more than him? 

Yes, it absolutely is.  A contract represents market value at a specific time.  If Brown wanted to revisit his deal after three years, he should have signed a three-year deal, or at least had his agent set up an "out" if certain performance escalators are hit.

Do you guys think the Eagles are the only team that doesn't re-up everyone to the current market rate every time they ask?