Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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fansince61

0.31  It said to lay low but my time will come :o

ATV

QuoteUnfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.
I heard she was up until the wee hours the night before and contiued praticing all the same day. If she were any sort of decent orator why should she need a teleprompter at all. She will be exposed during the debate. Unfortunatey there's only one of them.


Father Demon

Quote from: ATV on September 04, 2008, 01:21:48 PM
QuoteUnfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.
I heard she was up until the wee hours the night before and contiued praticing all the same day. If she were any sort of decent orator why should she need a teleprompter at all. She will be exposed during the debate. Unfortunatey there's only one of them.

You bring the definition of dumb to a whole new level.  Even for a taterskins fan.  I'm finished any conversation with you.
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fansince61

Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 11:52:40 AM
So, my two questions have gone unanswered by the McCain campaign, the press, or anyone on this board:

1) What does Palin offer as a VP candidate that has not been called into question by documentation of her own actions?
2) What does Palin offer as a VP candidate that puts her above seemingly more qualified candidates?

(1) She has true executive experience as a mayor and governor rather than as a community organizer (what the farg is that?).  True its a small town and state..I think of it like this.  If you can balance your check book when you make 30G/yr. you will be able to do it when you make 100G/yr (just takes longer).  While the implications are greater on the national stage it may actually be harder to be mayor of a 9K town than president - as you have far less help.

(2) The fact that she is not part of (what I call) the "Aristocracy" gives me hope.  How many have gone to Washington to change things and they were the ones who got changed (once they experienced the lavish perks and power trappings).  BTW - Biden is Washington

She may fall flat on her face but very early on she looks like the real deal to me.  (keep in mind I voted for Bush twice and truly wish I could get those votes back) I am concerned about anyone in power who may push there faith based values on others but I don't think that can happen today.  Even with all conservative Supremes the worst case scenerio imaginable is that abortion goes back to the states.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Father Demon on September 04, 2008, 01:29:47 PM
Quote from: ATV on September 04, 2008, 01:21:48 PM
QuoteUnfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.
I heard she was up until the wee hours the night before and contiued praticing all the same day. If she were any sort of decent orator why should she need a teleprompter at all. She will be exposed during the debate. Unfortunatey there's only one of them.

You bring the definition of dumb to a whole new level.  Even for a taterskins fan.  I'm finished any conversation with you.

Agreed.  He completely ignored the part about Obama being the one that actually needs the prompter.

I just hope that the only reason the lefties on this board are so blind to any of their party's or their candidate's issues is that Bush has driven them to it.  Maybe after the Democrats lose favor in public opinion, some of them will move back towards the center or at least be capable of critical analysis of their own side of the aisle.

Cerevant

Quote from: fansince61 on September 04, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
(1) She has true executive experience as a mayor and governor rather than as a community organizer (what the farg is that?).  True its a small town and state..I think of it like this.  If you can balance your check book when you make 30G/yr. you will be able to do it when you make 100G/yr (just takes longer).  While the implications are greater on the national stage it may actually be harder to be mayor of a 9K town than president - as you have far less help.

She was nearly recalled as mayor and is under investigation for her abuse of power as a governor.

Oh, and if executive experience trumps legislative experience, McCain should not have been the nominee in the first place...

Quote(2) The fact that she is not part of (what I call) the "Aristocracy" gives me hope.  How many have gone to Washington to change things and they were the ones who got changed (once they experienced the lavish perks and power trappings).  BTW - Biden is Washington

She's not part of the aristocracy, but she did hire a lobbyist for her small town to take advantage of her corrupt Senator.  Even after getting $27M in earmarks, she left her small town into $20M of debt.

QuoteShe may fall flat on her face but very early on she looks like the real deal to me.  (keep in mind I voted for Bush twice and truly wish I could get those votes back)

Hey, I voted for Perot twice.  Go fig.

QuoteI am concerned about anyone in power who may push there faith based values on others but I don't think that can happen today.  Even with all conservative Supremes the worst case scenerio imaginable is that abortion goes back to the states.

Pray for the pipeline, baby.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Hey, I voted for Perot twice.  Go fig.

Is that supposed to give you more "cred" or less?

Rome

Quote from: FastFreddie on September 03, 2008, 09:27:06 PM
Are you seeing what you've become, Rome?  Defending Hillary?  Holy shtein.

Nothing says "defending someone" like calling them a funhole.

Cerevant

Quote from: FastFreddie on September 04, 2008, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Hey, I voted for Perot twice.  Go fig.

Is that supposed to give you more "cred" or less?

Just giving you the benefit of the doubt for voting for Bush twice.

Oh, BTW - The teleprompter did not break
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

fansince61

Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
nearly recalled as mayor[/url] and is under investigation for her abuse of power as a governor.

Even after getting $27M in earmarks, she left her small town into $20M of debt.


The recall story was dated Feb. 2007.  Remember she got rid of a lot of entrenched politico's and I'm sure some of them came after her..primarily law suits, etc.  The babe that sent the story (cited earlier)  to the Washington Post is a prime example.  It's simply to early to tell.  EVERYONE she axed will be trying to "schtein on her desert" until election day.  Some of these "news stories" will be long gone by Oct.

Lets see how the 20M in debt. settles out and if it's even true.  I'm not an accountant;  remember "figures don't lye but liars can figure" ;)

ice grillin you

Quote from: fansince61 on September 04, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
(1) She has true executive experience as a mayor and governor rather than as a community organizer (what the farg is that?).  True its a small town and state..I think of it like this.  If you can balance your check book when you make 30G/yr. you will be able to do it when you make 100G/yr (just takes longer).  While the implications are greater on the national stage it may actually be harder to be mayor of a 9K town than president - as you have far less help.

(2) The fact that she is not part of (what I call) the "Aristocracy" gives me hope.  How many have gone to Washington to change things and they were the ones who got changed (once they experienced the lavish perks and power trappings).  BTW - Biden is Washington

She may fall flat on her face but very early on she looks like the real deal to me.  (keep in mind I voted for Bush twice and truly wish I could get those votes back) I am concerned about anyone in power who may push there faith based values on others but I don't think that can happen today.  Even with all conservative Supremes the worst case scenerio imaginable is that abortion goes back to the states.


1. so your veep candidate has more exec experience than your presidential candidate?...btw what is mccains executive experience exactly

2. if biden is washington then what is mccain...or bidens washington experience is a negative while mccains is a positive...and obamas newness and change is a negative while palins is a positive

2a. as cervent pointed out shes already experienced the lavish perks of washington dc from 5000 miles away...what will happen when she actually gets there?


the desperate hypocricy you people throw out in trying to defend this pick to me screams that you yourselves cant even believe she got the spot
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

fansince61

Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 04, 2008, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Hey, I voted for Perot twice.  Go fig.

Is that supposed to give you more "cred" or less?

Just giving you the benefit of the doubt for voting for Bush twice.

Oh, BTW - The teleprompter did not break

Sneaky semantics? No one said the telepromter broke.  It just kept running and was ahead of where she was in her speach

fansince61

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 04, 2008, 02:32:34 PM
1. so your veep candidate has more exec experience than your presidential candidate?...btw what is mccains executive experience exactly

2. if biden is washington then what is mccain...or bidens washington experience is a negative while mccains is a positive...and obamas newness and change is a negative while palins is a positive

2a. as cervent pointed out shes already experienced the lavish perks of washington dc from 5000 miles away...what will happen when she actually gets there?


(1) Yes, she has more executive experience than McCain (I don't count his service time).

(2) Yes...McCain is Washington as well (one of many reasons why I opposed him on the ticket)

(2a) Dunno.  But she will be watched very closely by the press