Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[rjs246]

Supreme court justice appointees can make that happen... the fact that this election isn't already a laughable landslide shows just how farging inept the Democratic party still is.

[Wingspan]

The new york times has been known to make shtein up from time to time. just sayin.

Those are direct quotes....and the link (which I just realized I didn't post) has the interview. Not sure how the NYT is making shtein up?

I didn't say they were. But they have, it was more of a joke than anything else.

You never answered my question from a few pages back....

If you feel comfortable knowing she is one step from being CiC of this country, I feel sorry for you.

How can you determine how qualified she is for either job based on your reading of her wikipedia bio and cnn info over the last 36 hours?

There are people...a lot of them (i am not one, btw) who feel the same way about Obama being completely under-qualified to be president for many of the same reasons you give against Palin as VP. What makes your assessment of Palin any more or less valid than opponents assesment of Obama?

[ATV]

You mean the one when an insincere Hillary read her support for Obama, but never once said he would be a good president?

Yes, the latest and official "insincere" one stated on the national stage.

[ATV]

The odious soap opera in Minneapolis gets worse each night, this one like a Sandra Bullock movie produced and directed by the Devil. I tuned in for Rudolf Giuliani's keynote speech, a hyperthyroid exercise in oratorical thuggery, which led directly to the main event, Sarah Palin's acceptance of the vice-presidential nomination.

     She quickly proved to be a confident podium performer, but the content and tenor of her remarks conveyed all the petty viciousness and insecurity of the Republican right-wing. As she spoke, the cameras panned around her rapt audience, affording snapshots of the dumbest white people in America, self-congratulatory in their small-town ignorance and brined in a dangerous jingo-patriotism that must make leaders in other nations cringe in amazement at the rhetorical recklessness being served up. Everything about her speech was small-minded, vindictive, smugly sarcastic, and shot through with falsehood (e.g. that the Republicans will "lead America to energy independence"). You wonder how much kool-aid these people have to drink to believe their own bullshtein. In fact, watching Ms. Palin's performance, two notions came to mind and lodged there firmly: 1.) That the Republican Party has itself become a vector of terrorism, and 2.) that these are exactly the people I had in mind when I conceived the term "corn-pone Nazis" to describe the worst outcome of an over-stressed society.

     In the aftermath, with the whole Palin family bathed in cheering before a giant televised waving flag, the true ethos of this phony spectacle revealed itself: this is the party of losers, and Sarah is their cheerleader. Deep down, Americans feel like losers. Our economy is cratering in an abyss of greed and foolishness. We're exhausting our resources in imperial military adventures. And we're stuck in a car-dependent living arrangement with no future. This bunch doesn't want to face the reality in any of this. They just want to "drill drill drill" so they can keep snowmobiling and rack up more credit card purchases of Chinese-manufactured salad shooters in the WalMart.

      Here's an interesting question: if they win the election, will Sarah Palin and her whole family move to Washington when she takes up her duties? What will her husband do there? Who will take care of her "special needs" baby while the mother is learning how to become commander-in-chief of the armed forces and guardian of a nuclear arsenal (plus presiding over the senate)? Will daughter Bristol stay home in Alaska with her teenage husband and their new baby?

     Tonight is the climax of this awful spectacle. John McCain gets to explain why the party that wrecked America deserves another term running things in the in the nation's capital.

From http://www.kunstler.com/index.html

[ice grillin you]

Giuliani's keynote speech, a hyperthyroid exercise in oratorical thuggery

what a great line

[fansince61]

The republicans do love 9/11

Things the GOP is "too afraid" to say:

The invasion of Iraq was a diversion.
The invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
American lives were sacrificed on the basis of trumped up intelligence.
Americans were lied to.
Bush and Cheney wanted to take out Saddam Hussein without reference to the real intelligence on the (lack of) link between Iraq and 9/11.
We invaded a country that did not attack us.

They are the worst of the worst....seriously, like thugs.

[fansince61]

Letter from someone who has known Sarah Palin since 1992

Palin supposed to have a 80% favorable rating.  Quite strange if you believe this article.  At the end of the article you find out it was written by a political rival who lost (the librarians friend).

[Cerevant]

You never answered my question from a few pages back....

How can you determine how qualified she is for either job based on your reading of her wikipedia bio and cnn info over the last 36 hours?

I'll take a stab at this:  The problem is not that we can determine that she is not qualified, but rather there is no evidence - either from the McCain campaign or the press feeding frenzy - of any reason to think that she is qualified.

Counter question: what makes Sarah Palin a better choice for VP than:
Mitt Romney, governor of Massachusetts
Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas
Tom Ridge, former governor of PA, former Head of DHS
Christine Todd Whitman, former governor of NJ

Every positive thing you can say about Palin, you can say with more conviction about each of these four.  Further, all of these have been thoroughly vetted not only by their party, but by the press.   Every one of them has the national credibility to stand up at a podium and launch attacks at Obama.

It is clear that McCain's choice of Palin was a decision made to serve the goal of getting elected, not putting the needs of the country first.  Shocking when he has mad this the primary theme of his campaign.

I also find it amusing that the McCain campaign keeps touting her executive experience, while her primary responsibility as VP will be a legislative one. 

[fansince61]

Tonight is the climax of this awful spectacle. John McCain gets to explain why the party that wrecked America deserves another term running things in the in the nation's capital.

I think the Bush Whitehouse wrecked America almost single handed

[Wingspan]

You never answered my question from a few pages back....

How can you determine how qualified she is for either job based on your reading of her wikipedia bio and cnn info over the last 36 hours?

I'll take a stab at this:  The problem is not that we can determine that she is not qualified, but rather there is no evidence - either from the McCain campaign or the press feeding frenzy - of any reason to think that she is qualified.

Counter question: what makes Sarah Palin a better choice for VP than:
Mitt Romney, governor of Massachusetts
Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas
Tom Ridge, former governor of PA, former Head of DHS
Christine Todd Whitman, former governor of NJ

Every positive thing you can say about Palin, you can say with more conviction about each of these four.  Further, all of these have been thoroughly vetted not only by their party, but by the press.   Every one of them has the national credibility to stand up at a podium and launch attacks at Obama.

It is clear that McCain's choice of Palin was a decision made to serve the goal of getting elected, not putting the needs of the country first.  Shocking when he has mad this the primary theme of his campaign.

I also find it amusing that the McCain campaign keeps touting her executive experience, while her primary responsibility as VP will be a legislative one. 

That wasnt the question. The question wasn't to you anyway...but regardless...the question is "How can you determine how qualified she is for either job based on your reading of her wikipedia bio and cnn info over the last 36 hours?"

I am not asking how you can make that determination now. I asked the question the day after the announcement. How can PG determine how qualified palin (or anyone who she had never heard of 37 hours before) is qualified or not just by reading a bio or two about them?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Again, please take a quick pause in your circle jerk to feast your eyes on this:

Halfway through Sarah Palin's speech tonight at the RNC, people following the speech noticed she was deviating from the prepared text.

According to sources close to the McCain campaign, the teleprompter continued scrolling during applause breaks. As a result, half way through the speech, the speech had scrolled significantly from where Governor Palin was in the speech. The malfunction also occurred during Rudy Giuliani's speech, explaining his significant deviations from his speech.

Unfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.

Contrast this to Barack Obama who, when last his teleprompter malfunctioned, was left stuttering before a crowd unable to advance his speech until the problem was resolved.

Sarah Palin. Winner.

I think it's fair to say she did quite well.

[Cerevant]

There was a hell of a lot more information out in the first 36 hours than a Wiki bio.  Start with the resume as presented by the McCain campaign.  That's where you start the WTF process - you look at it and say, "that's it?".  Then you look some more, and you find less.  And you look some more, and find even less.

The harder you look at this candidate, the worse her case is.

[Wingspan]

Yu are so blatently and blindingly pushing a party line agenda that there is not one thing you post that can be taken seriously.

[phattymatty]

holy shtein she is good at memorization.  i'm switching my vote.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

holy shtein she is good at memorization.  i'm switching my vote.

She's no idiot, that's all I'm saying.

P.S.  Quick question: Who ever asked whether Obama could still be a good dad if he became president?