Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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Seabiscuit36

lol, seriously they remind me of my wife's family outside of her parents.  Except they live in trailers
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

PhillyGirl

QuoteObama downplays satirical magazine cover

From Alexander Mooney
CNN

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama on Tuesday called a New Yorker cover that unflatteringly depicts him and his wife an unsuccessful attempt at satire that will probably fuel misconceptions he has long battled over the course of his presidential campaign.

But in an interview with CNN's Larry King, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee downplayed the impact of the illustration, which depicts him in Muslim attire in the Oval Office, with his wife, Michelle, carrying a machine gun.

"It's a cartoon ... and that's why we've got the First Amendment," Obama said. "And I think the American people are probably spending a little more time worrying about what's happening with the banking system and the housing market and what's happening in Iraq and Afghanistan, than a cartoon. So I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it.

"I've seen and heard worse," he said. "I do think that, you know, in attempting to satirize something, they probably fueled some misconceptions about me instead. But, you know, that was their editorial judgment."

The cover, which also depicts a U.S. flag burning in the fireplace and a picture of Osama bin Laden on the wall, drew heavy criticism from both political parties after it was circulated on the Internet over the weekend. Both presidential campaigns immediately condemned the magazine, calling the illustration "tasteless and offensive."

David Remnick, the longtime editor of the publication, said Monday that he believes the ironic intent of the illustration will be clear to most Americans.

In Obama's wide-ranging CNN interview -- the entirety of which is set to air on "Larry King Live" at 9 p.m. ET Tuesday -- the Illinois senator seemed to give cautious approval of the government's response to the turmoil surrounding mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

"I think some of the ideas that were offered with respect to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are good ones," he said. "I just want to make sure that we're not bailing out shareholders and CEOs but that we're focused on maintaining liquidity in the housing market."

Those comments come the same day Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson was grilled by lawmakers on Capitol Hill over his proposal to provide more government capital to the embattled mortgage firms and possibly acquire more equity in them.

Obama also repeated his pledge to push for the death penalty for September 11 mastermind Osama bin Laden if he is captured.

"We want to capture him or kill him," he said. "And as I've said -- as I just said this past weekend, if we captured him, then we would want to put him on trial. And I think he would be deserving of the death penalty."

Obama also repeated his pledge that if he were president, U.S. troops would pursue bin Laden into Pakistan if adequate intelligence suggested that he was there.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

rjs246

Pretty reasonable response actually.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ATV


ice grillin you

Mr. McCain, who with his wife, Cindy, has an adopted daughter, said flatly that he opposed allowing gay couples to adopt. "I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don't believe in gay adoption," he said.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Father Demon

As an adoptive parent myself, and a Republican myself, this statement irritates the shtein out of me, and I 100% disagree with him.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

ice grillin you

its really sad what the old man has become

its typical hate from the right but this is especially audacious in that hes not just saying that a man and a woman are better able to raise a child but that gay people are incapable of being parents at all
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

He's done.  How are you going to get the centrist vote with hatred on gays?

MDS

isnt the same stunt rove pulled in 04 to get all the crazy christians in ohio to vote for bush because they thought their stupid values were on the line?
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PoopyfaceMcGee

If it's targeted at one or two swing states, I suppose.

Either way, I think it's either a stupid declaration of his actual dumb beliefs or a questionable political tactic.

Cerevant

I know a lesbian couple who were foster parenting 3 kids, one of whom was a little girl whose mother couldn't stay clean long enough and show up to court to get her kid back.  Last I heard they were going through the adoption process.

All three kids' parents had drug / alcohol problems, didn't work, etc.  To make a blanket statement as to who would be a better parents based solely on sexual orientation...makes me sick.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Seabiscuit36

I just dont get what the big deal is about gays in this country.  Everyone is scurred.  It's like they think homosexuality is new and bad
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Cerevant

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 16, 2008, 01:09:54 PM
I just dont get what the big deal is about gays in this country.  Everyone is scurred.  It's like they think homosexuality is new and bad and contagious

What has me spitting nails is a black presidential candidate advocating for separate-but-equal rights for GLBTs.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

What, the whole "domestic partner" vs. "marriage" bit?  Good times.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Cerevant on July 16, 2008, 12:56:32 PM
I know a lesbian couple who were foster parenting 3 kids, one of whom was a little girl whose mother couldn't stay clean long enough and show up to court to get her kid back.  Last I heard they were going through the adoption process.

All three kids' parents had drug / alcohol problems, didn't work, etc.  To make a blanket statement as to who would be a better parents based solely on sexual orientation...makes me sick.

Similar story: A girl I was in the Navy with and her 'partner' took care of her nephew when her sister couldn't get her act together. She was a drugged out nut, the kid was 8 and the situation wasn't looking bright. The girl eventually got the court to give her parental rights when she proved her sister hadn't been around for a year or two (I think she's dead). Anyways, 11 years later, the lesbian couple raised the boy, the boy is now a man, he goes to college, and he's straight.