Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm not a political animal by any stretch. I've been a registered independent since, well, forever. I don't know if I've posted in this thread...and if I did, it was to make a joke about something stupid. And the party system is incredibly broken. But this election goes beyond politics...I've never seen a more dangerous, divisive, selfish, inept, neglectful, embarrassing, arrogant, ignorant and stupid candidate, and it's not close. This isn't a "I don't like the guy's policies" thing. This is a "wow, are you serious that this guy has actual supporters" thing. It's complete insanity that he even stands a chance. The kool-aid that his supporters lap up must be laced with crack, and they're impossible to talk to. I don't see how anyone can't through this crystal-clear conman. It's maddening.

Yep. I just don't get it. The FoxNews effect is real and then you have whatever they see in him. This election is going to be a shteinshow. Because when he loses he's going to cry and get those morons up in arms. Potentially in a literal sense.

you dont need to watch msnbc to know trump is a garbage human being...you just need to watch trump

its been mentioned a million times but what it comes down to is that it doesnt matter how awful trump is as a person as long as he hates the people his base think are more awful...brown and black people....libs....powerful women...gay people...etc...he can shoot someone on 5th avenue as long as that person is someone they want dead

Rational people know this. I can decipher his awfulness on my own. But people who consume their "news" from FOX never get any bad stuff about him. And throw in shows like Rush and Mark Levin too.

the hate libs and far right social and political views come from fox but they don't make trump look like a humanitarian they build him up as an evil mean strong man and like dio said that's what it's all about they don't need or even care if trump is a good person...fox isn't making them like Trump as a human being nor do they try to

Although I agree with much the above, let's be real. The left and it's flagship CNN is every bit a news clown car as fox and the right wing teevee medium. If one has a half an ounce of objectivity this should be apparent. I don't consider myself a news hound by any stretch but I don't know how anybody can argue that the news isn't biased and agenda driven. If anybody knows of an exception to this I'd like to hear it because I haven't been able to find neutral reporting in I don't know how long. It's a sad commentary that Al Jazeera might come the closest. In my experience people who are into politics usually have their comfy bubbles and don't take kindly to anything that threaten its, and over the last few years I find libs are more intolerant than their right counterpoints (I'm not including the extreme right hate groups that are just psychopathic abominations). I think to some degree we're all complicit in the current shtein show.

Al Jazeera, BBC and PBS might be pretty close to if not down the middle.

I tend to watch CBS when breaking things happen. If there's something going on where the local networks aren't on it I'll put on CNN. And they do have biased people for sure. But I think I'm able to wade through the bias.

However when it comes to this administration there's so much bullshtein coming out quite frankly it doesn't matter where you consume your news. Except for the two extremes in MSNBC and Fox. They'll forever be the water carriers for their side.

Every side of any thing (sports, news, politics) will always have their hardcore fringe elements. I think people on the left are louder now because of what a disaster this administration has been. Because when Obama was in the right was the loudest with their qualms.

[Eagaholic]

CBS might be the most interesting case of all of them. Elaine Quijano has a more subtle approach. She is nuanced in asking leading questions that, although pointing to a particular conclusion, gives the viewer more of an impression that they are figuring things out for themselves. They are as on point in their presentation as anyone else out there imo. BBC might be my biggest disappointment over time, and now not just BBC America but also GB, although obviously they don't do nearly as much US news. Al Jazeera has intriguing takes that you only get from an international slant but can be a bit hit and miss. My impression is that's probably because they cull reporters from all over the globe and so they don't get as much consistency, especially from the smaller pool of English speaking contributors. That's a good point Jay about people on the left being louder and more visible. But that also has a disturbing dark side with the right fringe. They have gone more under ground now and are harder to infiltrate, and have considerable expertise. The adopting of sleeper cell models without so much central organizing and leadership, and first rate recruitment propaganda is frightening and it's not made any better with the FCC seeming to be in trump's back pocket.

[ice grillin you]

I'm not a political animal by any stretch. I've been a registered independent since, well, forever. I don't know if I've posted in this thread...and if I did, it was to make a joke about something stupid. And the party system is incredibly broken. But this election goes beyond politics...I've never seen a more dangerous, divisive, selfish, inept, neglectful, embarrassing, arrogant, ignorant and stupid candidate, and it's not close. This isn't a "I don't like the guy's policies" thing. This is a "wow, are you serious that this guy has actual supporters" thing. It's complete insanity that he even stands a chance. The kool-aid that his supporters lap up must be laced with crack, and they're impossible to talk to. I don't see how anyone can't through this crystal-clear conman. It's maddening.

Yep. I just don't get it. The FoxNews effect is real and then you have whatever they see in him. This election is going to be a shteinshow. Because when he loses he's going to cry and get those morons up in arms. Potentially in a literal sense.

you dont need to watch msnbc to know trump is a garbage human being...you just need to watch trump

its been mentioned a million times but what it comes down to is that it doesnt matter how awful trump is as a person as long as he hates the people his base think are more awful...brown and black people....libs....powerful women...gay people...etc...he can shoot someone on 5th avenue as long as that person is someone they want dead

Rational people know this. I can decipher his awfulness on my own. But people who consume their "news" from FOX never get any bad stuff about him. And throw in shows like Rush and Mark Levin too.

the hate libs and far right social and political views come from fox but they don't make trump look like a humanitarian they build him up as an evil mean strong man and like dio said that's what it's all about they don't need or even care if trump is a good person...fox isn't making them like Trump as a human being nor do they try to

Although I agree with much the above, let's be real. The left and it's flagship CNN is every bit a news clown car as fox and the right wing teevee medium. If one has a half an ounce of objectivity this should be apparent. I don't consider myself a news hound by any stretch but I don't know how anybody can argue that the news isn't biased and agenda driven. If anybody knows of an exception to this I'd like to hear it because I haven't been able to find neutral reporting in I don't know how long. It's a sad commentary that Al Jazeera might come the closest. In my experience people who are into politics usually have their comfy bubbles and don't take kindly to anything that threaten its, and over the last few years I find libs are more intolerant than their right counterpoints (I'm not including the extreme right hate groups that are just psychopathic abominations). I think to some degree we're all complicit in the current shtein show.

its been obvious youve been a pos trumper since day one but saying cnn is leftist almost makes you sound like a bot....cnn is a gross garbage pile of whataboutism...farg off

[Munson]

CNN is a subpar news network.


It is not even remotely in the same solar system as FoxNews. CNN is centrist bullshtein with centrist/center left opinion folks in prime time. They are not the propaganda wing for the entire left wing of the country.

[General_Failure]

It's a bit of a stretch to call three politicians a wing.

[PhillyPhreak54]

What's Lady G talking about? Good lord

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[Eagaholic]

I'm not a political animal by any stretch. I've been a registered independent since, well, forever. I don't know if I've posted in this thread...and if I did, it was to make a joke about something stupid. And the party system is incredibly broken. But this election goes beyond politics...I've never seen a more dangerous, divisive, selfish, inept, neglectful, embarrassing, arrogant, ignorant and stupid candidate, and it's not close. This isn't a "I don't like the guy's policies" thing. This is a "wow, are you serious that this guy has actual supporters" thing. It's complete insanity that he even stands a chance. The kool-aid that his supporters lap up must be laced with crack, and they're impossible to talk to. I don't see how anyone can't through this crystal-clear conman. It's maddening.

Yep. I just don't get it. The FoxNews effect is real and then you have whatever they see in him. This election is going to be a shteinshow. Because when he loses he's going to cry and get those morons up in arms. Potentially in a literal sense.

you dont need to watch msnbc to know trump is a garbage human being...you just need to watch trump

its been mentioned a million times but what it comes down to is that it doesnt matter how awful trump is as a person as long as he hates the people his base think are more awful...brown and black people....libs....powerful women...gay people...etc...he can shoot someone on 5th avenue as long as that person is someone they want dead

Rational people know this. I can decipher his awfulness on my own. But people who consume their "news" from FOX never get any bad stuff about him. And throw in shows like Rush and Mark Levin too.

the hate libs and far right social and political views come from fox but they don't make trump look like a humanitarian they build him up as an evil mean strong man and like dio said that's what it's all about they don't need or even care if trump is a good person...fox isn't making them like Trump as a human being nor do they try to

Although I agree with much the above, let's be real. The left and it's flagship CNN is every bit a news clown car as fox and the right wing teevee medium. If one has a half an ounce of objectivity this should be apparent. I don't consider myself a news hound by any stretch but I don't know how anybody can argue that the news isn't biased and agenda driven. If anybody knows of an exception to this I'd like to hear it because I haven't been able to find neutral reporting in I don't know how long. It's a sad commentary that Al Jazeera might come the closest. In my experience people who are into politics usually have their comfy bubbles and don't take kindly to anything that threaten its, and over the last few years I find libs are more intolerant than their right counterpoints (I'm not including the extreme right hate groups that are just psychopathic abominations). I think to some degree we're all complicit in the current shtein show.

its been obvious youve been a pos trumper since day one but saying cnn is leftist almost makes you sound like a bot....cnn is a gross garbage pile of whataboutism...farg off

You're not one to miss an opportunity to parade your ignorance in all its glory, are you? Spewing hate and personal attacks - not to mention being dead wrong - is the kind of cancer affecting too many on the left. You have yourself to thank for trump being elected, don't incorrectly project that on others.

[General_Failure]

Buttery mails are back on the menu, boys! https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314641332221227009

[Eagaholic]

CNN is a subpar news network.


It is not even remotely in the same solar system as FoxNews. CNN is centrist bullshtein with centrist/center left opinion folks in prime time. They are not the propaganda wing for the entire left wing of the country.

On the one hand I agree that fox is unique in being the propaganda arm of the white house (if that's what you are saying) so it's a different sort of animal, but cnn is every bit as  driven in its anti trump obsession as fox is with his support.

[PhillyPhreak54]

To be fair - is there anything worthwhile on the pro-Trump side to report?

[PhillyPhreak54]

Par for the course

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[MDS]

CNN is a subpar news network.


It is not even remotely in the same solar system as FoxNews. CNN is centrist bullshtein with centrist/center left opinion folks in prime time. They are not the propaganda wing for the entire left wing of the country.

On the one hand I agree that fox is unique in being the propaganda arm of the white house (if that's what you are saying) so it's a different sort of animal, but cnn is every bit as  driven in its anti trump obsession as fox is with his support.

this is just highly inaccurate and lazy both sidesism

on one hand fox is an unabashed propaganda arm of the sleaziest, most awful racist hateful wannabe authoritarian in american history....on the other hand cnn is critical of that person so theyre like the same

fox's goal is to cater to their audience of q anon lunatics who want trump to kill nancy pelosi. cnn's goal is to make money very blandly. cnn has no power, no influence. they could go away tomorrow and nobody would care. fox runs a political party and sets the agenda for the insanity your racist uncle sees on his facebook feed. not even close to the same thing.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Right on, PFD.

https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-firefighters-paramedics-union-rescind-trump-endorsement-1537861

[PhillyPhreak54]

Another note on Graham.

Their debate was canceled tonight because he refused to take a Covid test. The theory is that if he's positive then he has to quarantine and wouldn't be able to attend the Coney Barrett proceedings.

So farg everyone else and ram this nomination through.

[Eagaholic]

To be fair - is there anything worthwhile on the pro-Trump side to report?

If you mean in terms of the reporting, I think yes. Nobody likes to think they're getting played but we all are, and we probably overate ourselves in our ability to see through it. On the pro-trump side there's obviously a lot of bullshtein but there are also some good points to be made which you won't hear from the left. Same is true on points from the left. Each side puts on its own spin like in any debate and I find listening to both sides gives a clearer picture.

If you mean anything worthwhile reporting on pro trump in terms of policy, I also think yes. Not much domestically imo but I agree with some of his foreign policy. I don't automatically think just because it is his view it is automatically by definition terrible. I'm no expert but I'd say I agree with about 25% of his foreign policy (though I don't often like the way he goes about it) and maybe 0% of his domestic though I could probably think of something if I really wanted.