Donte' Stallworth

[SunMo]

of course, i just replied to him the other thread where he's waging his war on common sense, so who am i to talk.

it's just so tempting to debate with someone so mentally inferior with you, it's the proverbial fish in a barrel situation.

[SD_Eagle5]

who's the bigger ass?

munson

or

those that continue to argue with him?

Glass stones, houses or something:

You fail to realize that Heckert said this BEFORE Rosenhaus let it be known that Donte wants THAT much cash. I think even you weren't expecting Stallworth to be asking for that kind of top 5 WR in the NFL money.

It's funny...when Heckert or whoever else says something to the press that you like and agree with, they must be telling the truth. But any other time...they're liars. laugh

this is why your a moron...

you really think the Eagles were shocked by what Stallworth wants?  honestly?  are you that dumb.

and, it's easy to assume Heckert is telling the truth about the cap, because he's actually making himself look worse by saying what he said.  it would be in his benefit to say, "we'd like to sign him, but we just can't due to our cap situation"  instead, he's sticking the FO collective necks out even further by saying they could sign him if they want.

just get off it already.

[Munson]

Yes, you can prorate the bonuses over the life of the contract. But the Eagles are going to have to give up a certain amount RIGHT UP FRONT of that bonus, which could likely put  Not with Drew Rosenhaus as his client, after the TO/Rosenhause debacle.

You don't understand the way signing bonuses work, he'd get the 18 mill up front, but its the Eagles discretion as to when they count it against the cap, here's a more in depth definition:

Because salaries have continued to grow at a rate outpacing the salary cap, teams have found ways to circumvent the cap. Signing bonuses don't count toward a team's cap for a given year. A player who receives a signing bonus gets more money for that year than his recorded "salary," leaving more room in the cap for the other players.

Say, for example, a player wants a seven-year, $60-million contract. Let's say that the owner decides to give that player an $11-million signing bonus, which is all paid out in the first year but gets factored into the cap as prorated over the course of the seven-year contract ($11-million / 7 years = $1.57-million per year). Most NFL contracts are "back-ended" -- most of the base salary is located in the last two or three years of the contract. If we suppose that our player's contract is structured so that he has a base salary of $2-million the first year, with higher base salaries in the final two years of the contract, the $13-million (base salary + signing bonus) paid out in the first year appears as $3.57-million to the cap! The advantage of signing bonuses for the owner is that he now has more money to spend under the cap. This is how the Washington taterskins ran up a total payroll of $92.41-million in the 2000 season when the cap was $67-million. The advantage for the player is that all signing-bonus money is guaranteed to be paid, whereas an NFL contract is not guaranteed.

There are drawbacks to signing bonuses for the owner, however. Because the bonus is guaranteed to the player, if the player is released, traded or waived, all of the bonus money that was being prorated throughout the length of the contract is accelerated to the present year. So, if our team released its star player after the third year of his contract (before June 1) for whatever reason, the entire remainder of the bonus, almost $6.3-million, will have to count toward the cap the next year (if the team releases the player after June 1, only the yearly $1.57-million will count the next year, and the remainder will count the subsequent year).

Bottom line is, the cap flexibility is there if they want to use it.

Well if it's that easy to keep his cap numbers down, and Rosenhaus is going to play ball with the Eagles, then I guess we can expect to see Stallworth signed here at 12:01 on the first day of FA.

And I for one am still hoping it happens. But I'm also preparing for life after Stallworth.

[Sgt PSN]

SARS 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well if it's that easy to keep his cap numbers down, and Rosenhaus is going to play ball with the Eagles, then I guess we can expect to see Stallworth signed here at 12:01 on the first day of FA.

And I for one am still hoping it happens. But I'm also preparing for life after Stallworth.

You're using the "Stallworth probably won't be signed" argument to buttress your "the Eagles don't have the cap room to spend on Stallworth and also improve the team elsewhere" argument.

Stop it.  You're full of #2.

[Diomedes]

SARS 

B+

[Sgt PSN]

SARS 

B+

I'll take it.  SARSLY!

[Diomedes]

I'll take it.  SARSLY!

D-

One step forward, two back.

[Sgt PSN]

Opposites attract. 

[General_Failure]

F+

[Sgt PSN]

I'm back where I belong. 

[phillywin2k5]

so they finally used a 4th round DP on someone who can play and they get rid of him! I mean really why cant see the big picture, that with Stallworth they FINALLY have a set of WRs that causes the other team problems?

[methdeez]

18 million signing bonus over 5 years with no initial base salary is $3.6 million cap hit for the first year and then 3.6 plus whatever salary each consecutive year. That's not too shabby.

[mussa]

what?!!???

[PhillyGirl]

SARS 

gard.