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General_Failure


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this team is forced to be a balanced team somehow this year or they are in big trouble

when these defenses crowd the box because we have no threat at WR, it wont matter if Moats has Carl Lewis speed, Buckhalter eats a can of spinach before the game, and Mahe somehow gains 15lbs to stay on his feet

they wont win games because of a poor division and good defense, they'll be scraping big time to even come close to the playoff

I wish it was  a different story and we could revert back to 03, but its not that easy witout solid progression and major improvements

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Reggie Brown is going to get 70-75 catches and 1000 yards or so. At least McNabb has a go-to guy. I do think we'll get Lelie or some other receiver to help the depth, but these receivers aren't that awful. They just aren't big names. The depth is the issue, not the talent.
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 01:00:37 AM
If you really want an optimistic view for the backs look at the 2003 backs. Westbrook then was very successful, as were Duce and Buck. Now Buck isn't what he was then, and Duce isn't here, but Moats has more big play ability than either of those, and it still remains to be seen if we'll even sign or trade for a RB. So you sacrifice a little stability for more big play ability, and this offensive line is better than 2003's so we should have bigger holes.

Worst comparison ever.  We'd kill for a 2003 Duce or a 2003 Buckhalter right now.

ice grillin you

1. Westbrook:
        Strengths
             - speed
             - speed
             - speed
             - fantastic receiver out of the backfield
             - unbelieveably dangerous in the open field.
        Weaknesses
             - frequently injured
             - hasn't shown the ability to get 'tough' yards inside
             - has never been a consistent 17-25 carry a game guy




dont get me wrong when i say this because they absolutely need a real nfl back-up/#2 back but in the end its really pretty simple...westbrook stays healthy the rb position is ok....westbrook goes down and its all over
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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2006, 08:03:08 AM
1. Westbrook:
        Strengths
             - speed
             - speed
             - speed
             - fantastic receiver out of the backfield
             - unbelieveably dangerous in the open field.
        Weaknesses
             - frequently injured
             - hasn't shown the ability to get 'tough' yards inside
             - has never been a consistent 17-25 carry a game guy




dont get me wrong when i say this because they absolutely need a real nfl back-up/#2 back but in the end its really pretty simple...westbrook stays healthy the rb position is ok....westbrook goes down and its all over

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Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 01:44:18 AM
Reggie Brown is going to get 70-75 catches and 1000 yards or so. At least McNabb has a go-to guy. I do think we'll get Lelie or some other receiver to help the depth, but these receivers aren't that awful. They just aren't big names. The depth is the issue, not the talent.

They have plenty of depth.  The problems is they're untested, (Avant) unproven (McCants & Gaffney) or flat-out suck (Greg Lewis).

The usual "pick up, then hope and pray" method of selecting receivers has gotten old, already.  If they're going to run an offense predicated on the pass, then they need to quit farging around and get some proven talent at the positions. 

I'm not saying that Reggie, Hank or Avant won't be great players.  I'm hoping they will.  But I'm just a fan and me "hoping" they get it done isn't the same thing as Andy & Heckert going out and doing whatever they need to do to get it done.

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Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2006, 12:01:53 AM
A lot of focus has been put on Andy Reid calling more running plays, but I'm curious about what he actually has to work with in the backfield.

I'm sure you all know that I am not a fan of the team's running back situation. From top to bottom I see a lot of problems but I'm going to try and objectively look at the strengths and weaknesses of the runningback options and try to get some feedback from you assbags.

1. Westbrook:
        Strengths
             - speed
             - speed
             - speed
             - fantastic receiver out of the backfield
             - unbelieveably dangerous in the open field.
        Weaknesses
             - frequently injured
             - hasn't shown the ability to get 'tough' yards inside
             - has never been a consistent 17-25 carry a game guy

2. Moats
        Strengths
             - speed
             - speed
             - rumor has it that he's a stronger inside runner than Westbrook
        Weaknesses
             - I haven't seen him be a stronger inside runner. At this point its all rumor.
             - Has a history of fumbles
             - Has struggled in the passing game
             - Has struggled with protection responsibilities
             - Has the worst blog ever

3. Mahe
        Strengths
             - knows the offense
             - can return punts
             - has decent hands
             - owns a funny t-shirt
        Weaknesses
             - Will never, ever, ever be a threat to break a big play
             - Has no size or strength and can have the ball stripped
             - Has no size or strength and cannot run inside
             - Is not fast enough to make up for his lack of size and strength
             - Is mormon

4. Perry
        Strengths
             - He runs north-south with strength
             - Can return kicks
        Weaknesses
             - He is always hurt. Always. Never not hurt.
             - Has been fumbling
             
5. Buckhalter
        Strengths
             - Runs with strength and authority inside and out
        Weaknesses
             - His legs are made out of raw spaghetti.
             - Has struggled in the passing game
             - Has struggled with protection responsibilities


I would say that top to bottom this group TERRIFIES me. I don't see a single well-rounded, make me feel good about the running game, back in the bunch.

Make me feel better, jerks.

and this is exactly why the Eagles need to go get Duckett or Musa Smith or ANYONE who can stay healthy
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 01:44:18 AM
Reggie Brown is going to get 70-75 catches and 1000 yards or so. At least McNabb has a go-to guy. I do think we'll get Lelie or some other receiver to help the depth, but these receivers aren't that awful. They just aren't big names. The depth is the issue, not the talent.

Bunkley 78's STONE COLD LOCK

We've seen a lot of evidence so far. Good prediction!

RJS,
You want to feel good about our RB situation?  Marty Johnson. Say no more.

That, or have Mahe rub your prostate for a few bucks.
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rjs246

Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 18, 2006, 10:18:32 AM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 18, 2006, 01:44:18 AM
Reggie Brown is going to get 70-75 catches and 1000 yards or so. At least McNabb has a go-to guy. I do think we'll get Lelie or some other receiver to help the depth, but these receivers aren't that awful. They just aren't big names. The depth is the issue, not the talent.

Bunkley 78's STONE COLD LOCK

We've seen a lot of evidence so far. Good prediction!

RJS,
You want to feel good about our RB situation?  Marty Johnson. Say no more.

That, or have Mahe rub your prostate for a few bucks.

So Reggie Brown hasn't been able to get open all preseason but he'll definitely get 70 catches and 1000 yards this year?

Makes perfect sense to me.

The Mahe prostate rub may end up being the only thing that makes me feel better. Gross.
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ice grillin you

So Reggie Brown hasn't been able to get open all preseason but he'll definitely get 70 catches and 1000 yards this year?


forget this preseason

i wanna know where it started and who started the reggie bandwagon from last year that led to the notion that he would be a productive wr this year much less a #1 guy...everyone bought into this crap and i just didnt and dont understand it

in reality he should be coming into this season as a promising #3 guy behind two quality nfl wr's and we all sit back and watch his development and hope that he shows the ability to one day take over one of the first two spots

instead the guy is a #1 wr and is supposed to be replacing arguably the best wr in the nfl

its outrageous
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Quote from: rjs246 on August 18, 2006, 11:59:26 AM
The Mahe prostate rub may end up being the only thing that makes me feel better. Gross.

He'll even shine your shoes for only $2 more!

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: FFatPatt on August 18, 2006, 12:09:37 PM
He'll even shine your shoes for only $2 more!

With his ass funk. Which I hear can shine a shoe like no one's business.
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General_Failure

Westbrook and LJ will lead the team in receptions. If Reggie and Mr. Baskett can contribute too, that's nice.

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Quote from: General_Failure on August 18, 2006, 12:25:08 PM
Westbrook and LJ will lead the team in receptions. If Reggie and Mr. Baskett can contribute too, that's nice.

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