The Running Backs, Wide Receivers and other offensive questionmarks...

[The BIGSTUD]

The preseason has no relevance to how Reggie will do during the regular season. They are running a vanilla offense, and I doubt they are even running plays for Reggie. They need to see what so many other receivers can do to decide whether or not to pick another receiver up. Plus they just have so many guys fighting for jobs. Reggie Brown is the only one not fighting for a job, therefore they don't need to go to him. He'll get open during the season plenty.

You can hate on Reggie all you want, but you are basing it on nothing.

[The BIGSTUD]

Reggie Brown is going to get 70-75 catches and 1000 yards or so. At least McNabb has a go-to guy. I do think we'll get Lelie or some other receiver to help the depth, but these receivers aren't that awful. They just aren't big names. The depth is the issue, not the talent.

They have plenty of depth.  The problems is they're untested, (Avant) unproven (McCants & Gaffney) or flat-out suck (Greg Lewis).

The usual "pick up, then hope and pray" method of selecting receivers has gotten old, already.  If they're going to run an offense predicated on the pass, then they need to quit farging around and get some proven talent at the positions. 

I'm not saying that Reggie, Hank or Avant won't be great players.  I'm hoping they will.  But I'm just a fan and me "hoping" they get it done isn't the same thing as Andy & Heckert going out and doing whatever they need to do to get it done.

I'll agree with that. They don't have experienced depth.

[Don Ho]

The preseason has no relevance to how Reggie will do during the regular season. They are running a vanilla offense, and I doubt they are even running plays for Reggie. They need to see what so many other receivers can do to decide whether or not to pick another receiver up. Plus they just have so many guys fighting for jobs. Reggie Brown is the only one not fighting for a job, therefore they don't need to go to him. He'll get open during the season plenty.

You can hate on Reggie all you want, but you are basing it on nothing.

well said bunk!

[ice grillin you]

since when does having a whole lot of trash = depth

[rjs246]

Not well said at all. I'm basing my skepticism on history and what I saw last year and this pre-season.

You are basing your optimism on wishful thinking. No one else has a chance of being a #1 so you're hoping and praying that Brown can do it, but there is absolutely no evidence that he'll be able to.

I hope to god I'm worng. I hope he emerges as the best WCO WR in the history of the world. But if he gets more than 900 yards this year I will be stunned.

[The BIGSTUD]

He was the best rookie WR in the NFL last year, and had the best rookie season for the Eagles maybe ever.

I don't know what you didn't like, but when he took over as a starter last year, I saw pro bowl ability and talent. I don't know what's not to like. He's fast, he's strong, he jumps high, and has great hands. I don't see how he can't be a pro bowl player for years to come.

[reese125]

So Reggie Brown hasn't been able to get open all preseason but he'll definitely get 70 catches and 1000 yards this year?


forget this preseason

i wanna know where it started and who started the reggie bandwagon from last year that led to the notion that he would be a productive wr this year much less a #1 guy...everyone bought into this crap and i just didnt and dont understand it

in reality he should be coming into this season as a promising #3 guy behind two quality nfl wr's and we all sit back and watch his development and hope that he shows the ability to one day take over one of the first two spots

instead the guy is a #1 wr and is supposed to be replacing arguably the best wr in the nfl

its outrageous

IGY, yo couldnt be more correct, and something Ive been pondering since the end of the season. all of a sudden you see a receiver excelling at a position with no Donovan McNabb, the team down by points in the 4th, defenses playing off the receiver in zone coverage with no respect for McMahon, and Brown is catching balls because hes the only one getting open--and all of a sudden hes our #1 guy? Im not buying it until he consistently gets open, multiple passes getting thrown his way, and Donovan having the confidence to go him in the tightest of situations.

To me, this is #1 by default with no "true basis" of establishing oneself as a legit #1. He did not prove he was a #1 just based off of a last year

[ice grillin you]

number of wr's under reid with 70+ catches or 1000 yds not named terrell owens = zero


speaking of owens i was thinking last night how he and other people like randy moss as young receivers got to learn and play behind great wr's such as rice and carter....reggie brown gets to grow up with greg lewis and jabar gaffney

its like i said before its so frustratingly unfair that the coaching staff has put him in this position...its not where a second year second round wr should be


You are basing your optimism on wishful thinking. No one else has a chance of being a #1 so you're hoping and praying that Brown can do it, but there is absolutely no evidence that he'll be able to.


exactly...there is absolutely no evidence that reggie brown is ever going to be a #1 wr in this league much less this year....i like the kid....but come on lets be realistic

[rjs246]

500 yards definitely equals probowl.
Two productive games definitely equals probowl

Are you guys so starved for a decent WR that the smallest glimmer of hope makes you think a player is a pro-bowler? Unreal.

[Rome]

There's no room for optimism in your mind, rjs.

You've made that clear in the past.

And basing your opinion on last year (with the legendary Mike McMahon at QB, no less) plus a couple of series during this preseason is retarded.

We have no idea how they're going to play.  The difference is, some of us are willing to at least hold out a sliver hope for great things to happen while you've already taken a shovel to the team.  I just don't understand that.   I mean, if the outlook is so gloomy, then why bother watching at all?

[General_Failure]

Since when is Bunkley you guys?

[The BIGSTUD]

He won't be a pro bowler this year, but I think next year he'll be a pro bowler for many years to come.

Again, he almost had 600 yards, and only started as a #1 for about half the season. He also had 4 TDs. So you figure if he starts as the #1 for the entire season he probably has close to 900 yards or more. You also have to factor in that he's going to be in his second year. He'll know the offense better, he's going to be with a better QB in McNabb, who's going to have a better offensive line blocking for him.

I don't get some people. Everyone says no receivers can walk into Philly and contribute their first year, and when one guy finally does, they don't get the credit.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Not well said at all. I'm basing my skepticism on history and what I saw last year and this pre-season.

You are basing your optimism on wishful thinking. No one else has a chance of being a #1 so you're hoping and praying that Brown can do it, but there is absolutely no evidence that he'll be able to.

I hope to god I'm worng. I hope he emerges as the best WCO WR in the history of the world. But if he gets more than 900 yards this year I will be stunned.

Listen to this man.

Bunkley78, et al, don't believe that anyone questioning whether or not Brown can be a solid number one in this league is hating on the dude, or thinks he is a bum. Brown has a lot of talent, and shows ability. The argument is that he hasn't done anything to prove he is worthy of being a number one starting this year. The guy had a fantastic rookie year, especially for a rookie in this system. However, he didn't have a the kind of year that would make a logical, football smart person say, "Hey, that guy is a certifiable number one at this stage in his career." Maybe (I think he has a good shot) Brown can develop into a big play, number one receiver, but anointing him a sure-fire number one after his one and only above-average season, isn't a very good plan, and doesn't make much football sense.

[reese125]

Bunkley, your competely specualting these statements with no true evidence. your taking last season and automatically assuming he doubles his figues because Reid and Donovan claim him as the #1. show me consistency then I believe you

[Phanatic]

This offense is just good enough to get bailed out by the defense on a regular basis. One major injury to a WR or RB and probably not so much.

Is Brown a better #1 then Thrash?