Reno - punt returner

[MURP]

adding to a stat from last week.

Reno Mahe would be leading the NFL in punt-return average with a 14.5-yard average, except he's three short of qualifying. Mahe needs five punt returns Sunday in St. Louis to qualify.

The Rams rank 30th in the league in punt-return defense.

"He's doing a good job," special-teams coach John Harbaugh said. "He's going better north-south. He's also getting better punts to return. Early in the year, we were getting a lot of 5.0 hang-time punts. That's tough."

If he leads the NFL in punt return average Reid has a good excuse to keep him around next season. 

[Wingspan]

Mahe needs five punt returns Sunday in St. Louis to qualify.

i am fairly confident he can return 5 more punts. but i am not so confident that the defence can force 5 more punts. 

[Eaglez]

That's great, but I don't feel as though Reno is the type of player who has the vision and the shiftiness to break one and go the distance on a punt return. He's good at getting 10-15 yards per return, but I fear he will never be the type of player who could bust a 60-70 yard punt return for a TD.

Because he lacks playmaking ability, I don't see a reason to keep him around. We need someone back there who could change a game, little ol' Reno can't do that.

[Susquehanna Birder]

I was always okay with Reno's (relatively) decent ball control, but I don't recall him ever running a kick for more than 15 yards.

[T_Section224]

is it wrong to hope he gets injured before getting 5 touches?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

is it wrong to hope he gets injured before getting 5 touches?

That's fine. What's wrong is wishing he fumbles four of the five punts which get recovered by the kicking team and returned for TDs, and then gets injured on the fifth and final punt. Then he gets cut never to play for the Eagles again.




I'm wrong.

[DutchBird]

So say we cut Mahe, and add a playmaker. That playmakaer will cost money... which then can not be spent on the other playmakers we need (say WR, LB, D-line, arguably tackle and RB, and according to some QB as well).

Well, if I have to choose between cutting Mahe and run into even more problems in area's where we already have problems, or keep Mahe and spend the money on a playmaker I would chose the latter.

Remember Rossum? Yes he broke one occasionally, but he lost a bunch of fumbles as well. Apart from last game, I have hardly heared a Mahe SNAFU being mentioned by Mike and Merril. And what was one of the greatest assets of one of the better returners in NFL history (a certain former taterskin and Eagle)? It was the fact that he hardly ever fumbled, and only took calculated risks. 

It IS a shame that Mahe seems to lack a breakaway speed. On the other hand, with hang-times of 5+ seconds working against you and blocking that is not that good either, then you'll not have too much chance to go anywhere.

[methdeez]

So say we cut Mahe, and add a playmaker. That playmakaer will cost money... which then can not be spent on the other playmakers we need (say WR, LB, D-line, arguably tackle and RB, and according to some QB as well).

Well, if I have to choose between cutting Mahe and run into even more problems in area's where we already have problems, or keep Mahe and spend the money on a playmaker I would chose the latter.

Remember Rossum? Yes he broke one occasionally, but he lost a bunch of fumbles as well. Apart from last game, I have hardly heared a Mahe SNAFU being mentioned by Mike and Merril. And what was one of the greatest assets of one of the better returners in NFL history (a certain former taterskin and Eagle)? It was the fact that he hardly ever fumbled, and only took calculated risks. 

It IS a shame that Mahe seems to lack a breakaway speed. On the other hand, with hang-times of 5+ seconds working against you and blocking that is not that good either, then you'll not have too much chance to go anywhere.

The flaw in your argument is that we will not have enough money. We will, and do have every year, extra, unspent money. So there!!

[Eaglez]

Yeah, getting someone back there who can return punts won't cost a boatload of money. The Eagles should be able to find someone who is relatively cheap. If not, there is always the draft.

I'm not talking about breaking the bank for a punt returner, but get someone in here who will be the 3rd or 4th WR that can also return kicks.

[DutchBird]

So say we cut Mahe, and add a playmaker. That playmakaer will cost money... which then can not be spent on the other playmakers we need (say WR, LB, D-line, arguably tackle and RB, and according to some QB as well).

Well, if I have to choose between cutting Mahe and run into even more problems in area's where we already have problems, or keep Mahe and spend the money on a playmaker I would chose the latter.

Remember Rossum? Yes he broke one occasionally, but he lost a bunch of fumbles as well. Apart from last game, I have hardly heared a Mahe SNAFU being mentioned by Mike and Merril. And what was one of the greatest assets of one of the better returners in NFL history (a certain former taterskin and Eagle)? It was the fact that he hardly ever fumbled, and only took calculated risks. 

It IS a shame that Mahe seems to lack a breakaway speed. On the other hand, with hang-times of 5+ seconds working against you and blocking that is not that good either, then you'll not have too much chance to go anywhere.

The flaw in your argument is that we will not have enough money. We will, and do have every year, extra, unspent money. So there!!

Though that might be true for week 1 of the season, most, if not all would be spent on extensions for players. So that we could try and sign free agents the next year. There is a reason why a number of contracts (like the McNabb) are comparatively "cheap" against the cap. A similar story goes for bonuses/rewards for incentives... And there is a reason why, despite these contracts, the Eagles have so far been able to go after the free agents they wished.
Despite all claims that Lury pockets Millions after the seaosn of unspent cap money, I have harldy (if ever) seen news articles stating that after Super Bowl Sunday eagles have millions in money left, which goes right into Luries pockets. If that would have the case even once, let alone consistently as some people claim, don't you think anyone in the media (being the local newspapers, FOX, ESPN, CBS, CNNSI) would have been all over it? Who is the source of all these claims? THe same idiot who hired a bunch of drunks in order to boo McNabb at the draft. That Eckel dude?

With the "cut every non-superstar" attitude some are displaying we would not have been in a position to sign Kearse, T.O, keep McNabb, Dawkins, Westbrook. What do you think a top notch LB who almost everyone is screaming for, will cost? Do you think that Reggie Wayne or Eric Moulds (if they hit Free  Agency), will come for free? What about a RB? What about extra help for the D-line?

Just glancing over the average Philly Eagles board people want half the D-line cut, just as half the linebackers, grudgingly admits they can accept Tra Thomas and Runyan for another year (but hope for a top center), want half our WR's gone, all but 1.5 RB (Gordon being doubtful) RB. The position where there is least bitching about are the DB's... and even there people are writing off al but our normal starting foursome (though Sheppard is being chewed at).

Sure, there are better players then Mahe available. But IMHO there are far worse problems on this team, and far more pressing needs. And those are, IMHO, far more important to spend money on then getting a hit-or-miss guy to replace a usually solid though unspectacular cog on the team.

[DutchBird]

Yeah, getting someone back there who can return punts won't cost a boatload of money. The Eagles should be able to find someone who is relatively cheap. If not, there is always the draft.

I'm not talking about breaking the bank for a punt returner, but get someone in here who will be the 3rd or 4th WR that can also return kicks.

So, say we do... and then hope we luck out on the fact that this dude does not muff every third punt, or fumbles upon being hit? There are enough of these dudes already in the league.... and all but two or three probably are ahead in effectivenes to Mahe. So say, if these guys return 1 or 2 punts per year for a TD (as that seems to be, if you are lucky, the average of the top returners in NFL history over their career) yet coasts you 3 or more TD's because of fumbles close to your own endzone, you lose instead of win.

[General_Failure]

It hardly matters who's back there. Does this defense force more than two punts a game anymore? What we really need is a great kickoff return man. Five, six, seven of those a game.

[fansince61]

adding to a stat from last week.

Reno Mahe would be leading the NFL in punt-return average with a 14.5-yard average, except he's three short of qualifying. Mahe needs five punt returns Sunday in St. Louis to qualify.

The Rams rank 30th in the league in punt-return defense.

"He's doing a good job," special-teams coach John Harbaugh said. "He's going better north-south. He's also getting better punts to return. Early in the year, we were getting a lot of 5.0 hang-time punts. That's tough."

Mahe can do alot of things..he just hasn't excelled at anything yet

If he leads the NFL in punt return average Reid has a good excuse to keep him around next season. 

[Dillen]

I was always okay with Reno's (relatively) decent ball control, but I don't recall him ever running a kick for more than 15 yards.

Against Seattle he had atleast 2 that were over 20...

[bobbyinlondon]

I was always okay with Reno's (relatively) decent ball control, but I don't recall him ever running a kick for more than 15 yards.

Against Seattle he had atleast 2 that were over 20...

He had one of 44 yards against the Hawks and the 28 yarder against the Giants right before halftime last week. I think the other one against the Hawks went for 26.