Reno - punt returner

Started by MURP, December 16, 2005, 09:55:12 AM

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methdeez

Quote from: jeffreyjpa on December 16, 2005, 08:18:30 PM
Had more time to do a little research, since the question was out there:

Dante Hall      33 Returns     5.8 Average      5 FCs
Randel El        33 Returns     7.1 Average      9 FCs
R. Mahe          14 Returns     14.5 Average    7 FCs

I have a feeling if Reno returned 33+ punts, his average per return might dip a little.

2005 NFL Punt Return Stats
Stop it with these silly facts!
We decided Reno sucks at PR and that is all there is to it. It's not subjective, and you're wrong.

Don Ho

I predict this thread will surpass the TO thread that ended up over 50 pages.
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DutchBird

Quote from: jeffreyjpa on December 16, 2005, 08:06:04 PM
Dutch, are you really comparing Reno Mahe to Brian Mitchell?

Yes and no...  Just pointing out that some of the things people are bitching about is what made Brian Mitchell great. Or the fact that I heared very few complaints about B. Mitchell faircatching.

Nowhere did I say that Reno will be as good as Mitchell. What I am trying to say is that he is not as bad as he is made out to be. Bitch all you want, but my guess is that when you add all things up (returns, fair catches, fumbles, risky catches (as in catcching the ball and being hit within 1.0 seconds, balls not even touched) he will rank among the better returners in the league.
You have New York, we have Amsterdam
Just 15,000 Dutch beat out 90,000 Americans

With Timmy, one of three things is going to happen. Somebody is going to get hurt - it's either going to be him, an opponent, or one of our players.

jeffreyjpa

Valid points, and you've given me something else to consider.

Do you think he'll be the Eagles punt returner going into 2006? I kind of assumed he was stop-gap for this season (given the injuries to JR Reid, Lito, etc.)...maybe not, if Reid believes the 14.5 PR average is not an apparition.

DutchBird

Quote from: jeffreyjpa on December 17, 2005, 08:41:26 AM
Valid points, and you've given me something else to consider.

Do you think he'll be the Eagles punt returner going into 2006? I kind of assumed he was stop-gap for this season (given the injuries to JR Reid, Lito, etc.)...maybe not, if Reid believes the 14.5 PR average is not an apparition.

Depends... also on who they get in the draft and the off-season. But on the current Eagles, I think he is the only one who would be a viable option for next season. JR Reid would have been an option, considering he has shown flashes in the past. However, there is no telling how good he'll be after his injury. The other options in Westbrook and Sheppard are massive no-no's to me. We do not ask Donovan to do kick-coverage, either. I can't think of another viable candidate.



So, in my opinion there are many more important issues to be adressed on this team. Also, from the little I have seen, coverage (or in this case return-blocking) has been less then stellar this season.
You have New York, we have Amsterdam
Just 15,000 Dutch beat out 90,000 Americans

With Timmy, one of three things is going to happen. Somebody is going to get hurt - it's either going to be him, an opponent, or one of our players.

Feva

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rjs246

I actually own that very same headband. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with Reno wearing it.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Feva

The two of you should co-found a gang.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

rjs246

Between the headbands and our matching "My Lips Hurt Real Bad" tee-shirts no one would dare farg with us.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

General_Failure

Not outside of a truck stop bathroom, anyway.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Don Ho

Let's see, the last time I saw that head band was, well December 1941!



TORA TORA TORA!
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Cerevant

Quote from: jeffreyjpa on December 16, 2005, 08:18:30 PM
Dante Hall      33 Returns     5.8 Average      5 FCs
Randel El        33 Returns     7.1 Average      9 FCs
R. Mahe          14 Returns     14.5 Average    7 FCs

And now for some simple math...

Dante Hall      33 Returns     5 FCs     6.6 Rets/FC
Randel El        33 Returns     9 FCs     3.5 Rets/FC
R. Mahe          14 Returns     7 FCs     2 Rets/FC

Mahe is a FC machine...
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Wingspan

Quote from: DutchBird on December 16, 2005, 06:33:47 PM
I remember a certain Hall of Fame prospect, who holds or has held many records concerning returns and IIRC has third most all purpose yards in NFL history, going by the name of B. Mitchell, playing both for the (censored)skins and later for us do an awful lot of fair-catch waving as well. And not one person with two or more working braincells would/could ever suggest that that certain Mitchell dude did not know what he was doing.

according to my eagles desk calendar...mitchell set the NFL records for fair catches in a season in 2000.

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Rome

Reno has to have pictures of Andy Reid in a compromising situation with a horse.

That's the only way I can see him still having a job in the NFL.  The enormity of his suckage is truly mind-blowing.