What concerns you most about this team leading into week 2?

Started by WEST is GOD, September 15, 2005, 11:21:56 PM

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What concerns you most about this team?

Offensive line
11 (28.9%)
Lack of running game
16 (42.1%)
McNabb's chest bruise
8 (21.1%)
Akers' 2 missed FGs
0 (0%)
other
3 (7.9%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Wingspan

the defense ALWAYS knows whats coming, jeebus, even if they are retards, it's 1 or 2, run or pass. thats one of the most overused cliches in sports.

thats why it comes down to the execution and disipline. which the o-line displayed none of.

and for a veteran line, that was very disconcerning to me. 
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MURP

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 16, 2005, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: MURP on September 16, 2005, 11:12:40 AM
When McNabb decides to actually play like a pro bowl QB, teams wont be able to blitz every down because they will be picked apart. In turn, the running game then opens up.

decides? you think he woke up on monday and decided NOT to play like an all-pro quarterback?

I think he bet 20 million on the Falcons and chose to tank the game on purpose. 

SunMo

Quote from: MURP on September 16, 2005, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 16, 2005, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: MURP on September 16, 2005, 11:12:40 AM
When McNabb decides to actually play like a pro bowl QB, teams wont be able to blitz every down because they will be picked apart. In turn, the running game then opens up.

decides? you think he woke up on monday and decided NOT to play like an all-pro quarterback?

I think he bet 20 million on the Falcons and chose to tank the game on purpose. 

i demand an investigation.  obviously, Andy and O-line were part of the consipiracy
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

When McNabb decides to actually play like a pro bowl QB, teams wont be able to blitz every down because they will be picked apart.  In turn, the running game then opens up. 


the line left a lot to be desired...and the run game was non existent...but both these things have happened numerous times over the last few years...the fact of the matter is mcnabb was horrible and thats the concern right now...he needs to get his schwagger back then everything will be right again

the best thing that could happen sunday would be an early touchdown pass to TO...that would do more for this team right now than 5 john hannahs and an earl cambell coached by jim lee howell



listen to these guys
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

rjs246

I am most worried about this team sucking donkey dick and beating itself again.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Cerevant

This is a point I tried to make in another thread - Andy gameplans for situations, not for a specific number of runs and passes.  When things work (allowing for an expected number of "failed" plays) the play balance is what we'd expect.  The problem is when things aren't working - especially 1st and 10.  I'm working on some statistics, but it looks like Andy will run on 2nd and 10 or less, but he automatically goes to the pass in 2nd and long and 3rd and long (with rare exceptions and game situations).

It is correct to say that the pass sets up the run, but not just setting up the defense for the run - it sets up the situation for Andy to call the run.

Andy calls the game like a computer - I bet I could write a program that would predict his pass/run calls with 90% accuracy.  He needs to find an assistant who can feel out the game situation at a gut level, with a better understanding of what is working and what needs to change.  Andy needs to learn that sometimes a really good game plan needs to get canned when things are going in the crapper.

C
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

mussa

McNabb period.

Yes the o-line looked like hell but what we didn't see was McNabb creating like he has done so many times in the past.  Whether it be rolling out and freestyling a pass.  Or him just plain running.  He wasn't 100% and therefore his passes were off and there was no rolling out of the pocket or running the ball.  If McNabb is not healthy, the offense needs to have a plan B, because we all know McNabbs gonna play unless his legs lopped off. 

However they plan to execute this well I guess we will see.  If its a repeat of last weeks game.  Then Reid better get his shtein together and start concentrating on running the ball.  Hell we have 3 running backs now.  Why not have Westbrook, Gordon and Moats in on a rotation.  I say give Moats a chance because of his explosivenss and speed.  I say put Westbrook in the slot and throw gordon as FB and Moats as RB on some plays.  I say pound the fargin ball and tire down the defense.  If McNabb performs like he did monday night.  Get him the hell out and put McMahon in.  Has the line turned into a bunch of panseys because of the lack of run game?  I say throw a wrench on the wheel and run the ball like hell if McNabb is not healthy.  You gotta try something else. 
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ice grillin you

EXACTLY

which is why i always say andy is great game planner but a horrible game coach
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

WEST is GOD

I've said before I think Mcnabb was more of a problem monday night, but that wasn't really all his fault. He was playing hurt. He took a shot to the chest, but that happens sometimes. It's not often you make it through a game without getting hit a few times. The offensive line didn't play well, but it wasn't terrible. There were plenty of plays where he sat back there for a good 5/6 seconds before getting rid of the ball, and then he'd get hit or throw an incomplete pass.

Basically, the offensive line played good enough to win the game, and we were a few plass completions away from winning that game. If Mcnabb was completely healthy, I think he completes those passes. I do think we should've kept trying to run the ball. Westbrook did break 2 nice runs. I think we could've worn them down or at least got them to respect the play action, but when you throw 50 times you are going to get your QB hit PERIOD. No matter what team you are playing or what line is blocking for you.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

Cerevant

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2005, 01:35:50 PM
EXACTLY

which is why i always say andy is great game planner but a horrible game coach
Dude, you need to stop agreeing with me. :sly I'm going to get a bad rep around here...

C
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Tomahawk

Quote from: Cerevant on September 16, 2005, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2005, 01:35:50 PM
EXACTLY

which is why i always say andy is great game planner but a horrible game coach
Dude, you need to stop agreeing with me. :sly I'm going to get a bad rep around here...

C

Going to get?

Don Ho

Quote from: rjs246 on September 16, 2005, 12:30:21 PM
I am most worried about this team sucking donkey meatcicle and beating itself again.

Never did I think I would be concerned about the niners game when the schedule was released 5 months ago.  DMac struggles in this game and continues to throw to TO 19 times without any big plays - hold on for the ugly ride folks.

I would love nothing better than run, run, run, worm burner, run, run, run, 101 mph decapitating fastball, run, run, run..  Here's hoping Gordon gets a few more carries.  We want Moats!
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Crabjuice

I find this thread very interesting. The 49ers beat the Rams in just about the same way the Falcons beat the Eagles. By shutting down the run and then getting pressure on the QB. It got my team 7 sacks. I wonder how many we can get on your porous line?  :-D

I don't know if you'll lose, but I don't think this game will be as big a blowout as many of you seem to think.

:evil


mussa

shutting down the run?  we don't have a run game.  do ur homework homer. 
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Crabjuice

Quote from: mussa on September 16, 2005, 06:38:51 PM
shutting down the run?  we don't have a run game.  do ur homework homer. 

And this disproves what I have to say how?