What concerns you most about this team leading into week 2?

Started by WEST is GOD, September 15, 2005, 11:21:56 PM

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What concerns you most about this team?

Offensive line
11 (28.9%)
Lack of running game
16 (42.1%)
McNabb's chest bruise
8 (21.1%)
Akers' 2 missed FGs
0 (0%)
other
3 (7.9%)

Total Members Voted: 38

mussa

How can you stop a run game that doesn't exist?  Im proving that your lame statement of shutting down the run the falcons beat the eagles is false.  Getting pressure on McNabb is key for you guys.  So bad luck with that :yay
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Crabjuice

Quote from: mussa on September 16, 2005, 06:53:30 PM
How can you stop a run game that doesn't exist?  Im proving that your lame statement of shutting down the run the falcons beat the eagles is false.  Getting pressure on McNabb is key for you guys.  So bad luck with that :yay

Yeah, the run game was non existant either way. Westbrook has had good running games. He didn't against the Falcons because the Falcons shut him down and Reid stopped running the ball. My point was that the Eagles and Rams threw the ball way too much and this allowed the Falcons and Niners to get more pressure on the QB.

I know the Eagles are a pass heavy offense, but it didn't seem to work too well last week, now did it?

mussa

yea because McNabb was McSpeared.  we were playing behind the entire game.  run or pass when your behind?  i say pass. 
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shorebird

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2005, 11:23:43 AM
When McNabb decides to actually play like a pro bowl QB, teams wont be able to blitz every down because they will be picked apart. In turn, the running game then opens up.


the line left a lot to be desired...and the run game was non existent...but both these things have happened numerous times over the last few years...the fact of the matter is mcnabb was horrible and thats the concern right now...he needs to get his schwagger back then everything will be right again

the best thing that could happen sunday would be an early touchdown pass to TO...that would do more for this team right now than 5 john hannahs and an earl cambell coached by jim lee howell



listen to these guys

Maybe if you could work the quote button I'd know who you were talking about when you say, "listen to these guys", or do you expect me to look back and find out myself??

McNabb had a piss poor game. It was the first game of the year, I ain't worried. He'll come back, and in  turn, the whole team will look better. Thats the kind of qb he is, he's carried this team before, he'll do it again. It was one game, one baaad game, but only one game against the best team in the NFC besides the Eagles. It was a tough game against a good D in their house.

Sunday can't get here soon enough.

Crabjuice

Quote from: mussa on September 16, 2005, 07:09:21 PM
yea because McNabb was McSpeared.  we were playing behind the entire game.  run or pass when your behind?  i say pass. 

Well, that's what Reid said, too. Look where it got your team.  :-D

shorebird

Laugh now funny boy, you might be singing a different tune on Sunday. Tell me, what might be your game plan on offense when Trotter gets to play his first game.

shorebird

Also, I know crab juice, and it ain't nuthin' I'd want to be known by.

Crabjuice

Quote from: shorebird on September 16, 2005, 07:35:38 PM
Laugh now funny boy, you might be singing a different tune on Sunday. Tell me, what might be your game plan on offense when Trotter gets to play his first game.

Run the ball at him. We'll see how things work out. I don' think it'll be offense that wins the game for us.  ;)

Crabjuice

Quote from: shorebird on September 16, 2005, 07:37:01 PM
Also, I know crab juice, and it ain't nuthin' I'd want to be known by.

Hmm... perhaps that's why it's my handle and not yours?  ::)

PhillyPhreak54

Running game.

Reid needs to not go away from it so early. They have a lot of plays in there that could open up the running game. That trap play they ran with Westbrook was one of them. Reid cannot get away from the run so quickly. It's like he says "Well, that run didn't work so I'll throw 12 straight times".

I have no trouble being a 60/40 run/pass ratio team. But you cannot get away from it too early.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Larry on September 16, 2005, 12:56:12 AM
McNabb.

I've noticed a trend with him since, I'd say, the Dallas game.  One, he's looking for the home-run ball too much, and two, he's become overly reliant on Owens.  As a result, he's taken a lot of unnecessary hits -- he's fumbled in 8 of his last 9 games -- and he's become much more cavalier with his passing:  I've seen some uncharacteristcally risky throws from him.

You bring up a good point.

What's funny is when Thrash and Co. were here everyone was screaming for Donovan to be a little more daring and try to thread balls into tight spots. Now that he's doing it...he's catching heat.

He'll be fine.

shorebird

Quote from: Crabjuice on September 16, 2005, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 16, 2005, 07:37:01 PM
Also, I know crab juice, and it ain't nuthin' I'd want to be known by.

Hmm... perhaps that's why it's my handle and not yours? ::)

Crab juice is the absolute most rank thing God ever put on earth. You can't even put it in your trash and wait a few days for the trash man, you'll barf if you get within' spitting distance of your can. You have to dispose of it immediately, or maggots will be on it quick fast and in a hurry. It makes buzzards puke.

Does that describe you in any sense??

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2005, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: Larry on September 16, 2005, 12:56:12 AM
McNabb.

I've noticed a trend with him since, I'd say, the Dallas game.  One, he's looking for the home-run ball too much, and two, he's become overly reliant on Owens.  As a result, he's taken a lot of unnecessary hits -- he's fumbled in 8 of his last 9 games -- and he's become much more cavalier with his passing:  I've seen some uncharacteristically risky throws from him.

You bring up a good point.

What's funny is when Thrash and Co. were here everyone was screaming for Donovan to be a little more daring and try to thread balls into tight spots. Now that he's doing it...he's catching heat.

He'll be fine.

I hope he keeps on doing what he's doing. Look at what it did for his stats last year.

I agree, he'll be fine. I look for a breakout game against the Niners.

jeffreyjpa

I think the problem is that we don't have running backs who can grind out tough yards (or any yards) when the passing game isn't going well. We have RBs who can catch the ball, and can occasionally pop a good run when a successful passing game has spread the defense a little bit.

That's the conundrum...as I believe FF and MURP pointed out earlier in this thread, the Eagles are no longer built to run the ball successfully, ever, as a first option. If McNabb is off or the opponent successfully focuses on shutting down the pass, they have a difficult time doing anything else.

And, Larry's point was also very good, RE: going for the home run ball too frequently. It's difficult to run--or, throw short passes, when you're never at third and less than five, as they weren't on Monday night.

Crabjuice

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2005, 08:02:12 PM
You bring up a good point.

What's funny is when Thrash and Co. were here everyone was screaming for Donovan to be a little more daring and try to thread balls into tight spots. Now that he's doing it...he's catching heat.

He'll be fine.

McNabb is a good QB. I don't understand how some people can't see that. People complained about him running too much, too. He's shown that he can be a good pure passer. Last season wasn't a fluke.

That said, he does have a bit of trouble with pressure.  :P

shorebird

Brady is the only qb who looks not to be much effected by pressure. He gets the ball off split seconds before the D can get to him. Even Manning will throw picks if you can get to him.