Eagles Fired Tom Gamble

[ice grillin you]

its fine but it needs to take a back seat to talent

pimp >>>>>> kkk

this aint the boy scouts son...its the not for long league

[Rome]

How much of an icehole is DeSean Jackson as a person if the head coach prefers Riley Cooper to him?

Seriously, I'm asking you to take a second and think about that.   Cooper is a piece of shtein human and he's also a middling professional athlete, yet Kelly evidently said, "you know, I think we'll keep the guy who isn't one-tenth as talented as the other guy."

Jackson is gone and if you're using that one decision as your sole barometer for Kelly's judgment on players, you might want to expand your mind a bit.   I know that's asking a king's ransom from you, but give it a shot.

[MDS]

that one decision likely cost them anywhere between 2 and 3 wins

but whatever

[ice grillin you]

How much of an icehole is DeSean Jackson as a person if the head coach prefers Riley Cooper to him?

see this is where we differ....i dont care if my players are good guys or not...i want the better player not the nicer guy

[PhillyPhreak54]

I have an idea...let's let the DeSean thing go. It's time for us to cut it loose...I hated it and still hate it but it's over and done with. He's chillin with Bob and Coach Grudes now.

As for who will GM?

No idea. It has to be a yes man and someone who is fine with having a title only. Shorr-Parks mentioned Todd Brummer who is with Seattle

[SD]

that one decision likely cost them anywhere between 2 and 3 wins

but whatever

It cost them zero wins, you're on crack if you think they're a 12 or 13 win team. Fact is even with Jaccson they're still not a contender this season. Defense is a mess and their QB blows.

[ice grillin you]

they easily win a couple of the close games with the pts pimp brings to the offense

but this is bigger than this year and bigger than pimp....the question is does chip continue to be this way on all his moves or does he go harder after talent....even someone like jordan matthews is an example....he had a nice year and I like him but there were so many other wr's in the draft that had explosiveness and were uber talented...however chip loved matthews who is a dime a dozen guy cause he was a four year workmanlike college grad leader....that's extreme example because he is a good player hes not marcus smith but it shows that the good players he gets could have been great ones its not just zesty players that could have been good

[JackStraw]

The thing that may change his course may be that all the pundits were basically right about all the poor moves last year. Injuries offers some cover, but those and some game calls, may give him pause that "system" in NFL isn't infallible. Gamble collateral damage first fallout.

New guys hired into a business always want to impress new boss on their methods vs prior regime spending - "i can get it great and cheap". doesn't always work out and now he may realize if he wants big, nasty and good, he's gonna have to pay. "Dream Team" was laughable, sure, but chips almost in same position now - this little episode lost cost him any remaining mulligans - win a playoff or bust.

In business if you win, people forget what it cost. Lose and no one cares how much you saved...

[ice grillin you]

The thing that may change his course may be that all the pundits were basically right about all the poor moves last year. Injuries offers some cover, but those and some game calls, may give him pause that "system" in NFL isn't infallible. Gamble collateral damage first fallout.

New guys hired into a business always want to impress new boss on their methods vs prior regime spending - "i can get it great and cheap". doesn't always work out and now he may realize if he wants big, nasty and good, he's gonna have to pay. "Dream Team" was laughable, sure, but chips almost in same position now - this little episode lost cost him any remaining mulligans - win a playoff or bust.

In business if you win, people forget what it cost. Lose and no one cares how much you saved...

I don't disagree with any of that and I hope its the case but the x factor might be the qb position...I can easily see chip saying the system would be fine with my qb...and he may be right about that....but he also may never get his guy at qb...so what happens until he does?

[SD]

they easily win a couple of the close games with the pts pimp brings to the offense

They won 10 games with him last year. WRs don't make up a 2 to 3 game win margin.

[AshishPatel81]

Matthews wasn't even the most egregious pick, it was Josh Huff. Still had Bryant and Moncrief on the board. If he thought a big tall, physical SEC all-time receiver would be a stud for him, I could let it slide. But there's no way to think Huff was the best receiver on the board other than pure Oregon bias.

That's just for WRs. The Marcus Smith pick was obviously a joke.

[ice grillin you]

they easily win a couple of the close games with the pts pimp brings to the offense

They won 10 games with him last year. WRs don't make up a 2 to 3 game win margin.

sure they do....it doesn't even mean the wr has to score himself....pimp opens up everything for them....sf where they scored zero offensive pts they win if hes there....shtein take him off wash and put him on the birds and they win that game where every wr on the roster combined caught less passes than zach ertz

[ice grillin you]

Matthews wasn't even the most egregious pick, it was Josh Huff. Still had Bryant and Moncrief on the board.

mos def

don't get me wrong im not killin jordan matthews....its just that its easy to point out a huff type pick so I wanted to use a pick where the player is actually good but could have been better...its about getting top end talent not just avoiding busts or terrible picks

[SD]

they easily win a couple of the close games with the pts pimp brings to the offense

They won 10 games with him last year. WRs don't make up a 2 to 3 game win margin.

sure they do....it doesn't even mean the wr has to score himself....pimp opens up everything for them....sf where they scored zero offensive pts they win if hes there....shtein take him off wash and put him on the birds and they win that game where every wr on the roster combined caught less passes than zach ertz

They had one starting O lineman against SF and Foles was under constant pressure. They still lose that game. He's not the magic man, he's an undersized WR with dangerous speed. I agree he opens the offense up but by your theory the Skins offense should have been world beaters this season.

I'll say this, they would have beaten the taterskins if he was still on the team...or on any other team other than the Skins.

[General_Failure]

they easily win a couple of the close games with the pts pimp brings to the offense

They won 10 games with him last year. WRs don't make up a 2 to 3 game win margin.

Jackson and Maclin together, with a less interception-prone quarterback, are better together than either of them playing with Cooper.