Eagles Fired Tom Gamble

Started by PhillyPhreak54, December 31, 2014, 02:22:25 PM

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phattymatty

Reading the last 3 days of this thread and the repetitive arguments of people with literally zero knowledge of whats actually going on is a pretty interesting social experiment.


MDS

chip kelly got what he wanted and now he will quit
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

SD

Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2015, 11:14:33 AM
I think he changed his mind about specifically working with Roseman, not necessarily anything else.   He came to the Eagles as a coach and he remains that, but if he's going to be on the hook for what happens on the field, he better be comfortable with the guys who are responsible for hiring the players he's going to be coaching.

you dont like roseman because hes a short nerdy jew...not because of anything specific he's down as a GM

there's no such thing as a roseman fan, but the vitriol toward him is completely unfounded.

What has he done as a GM to like him?

ice grillin you

Quote from: SD on January 03, 2015, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2015, 11:14:33 AM
I think he changed his mind about specifically working with Roseman, not necessarily anything else.   He came to the Eagles as a coach and he remains that, but if he's going to be on the hook for what happens on the field, he better be comfortable with the guys who are responsible for hiring the players he's going to be coaching.

you dont like roseman because hes a short nerdy jew...not because of anything specific he's down as a GM

there's no such thing as a roseman fan, but the vitriol toward him is completely unfounded.

What has he done as a GM to like him?

no one likes him....but romeys and many others over the top hatred of him is crazy especially when you look at the person they just hired to replace him...if they hired a legit GM it would be a lot different...again small samples sizes but right now the guy they hired is a worse PP than howie...so in that repsect it seems crazy to murder howie right now
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

this guy has emerged as the first potential and for right now leading candidate for "GM"

QuotePHILADELPHIA — One of the rising stars in the Eagles' scouting department was born at Riddle Memorial Hospital in Middletown.

Eagles assistant director of player personnel Ed Marynowitz has never been to the Granite Run Mall, but he has local roots. His mother, Barbara, is from Springfield while his father, Ed, hails from Northeast Philadelphia.

The family moved across the Walt Whitman Bridge to Blackwood, N.J., when Marynowitz was still an infant. But not before the fandom DNA was passed on.

"My dad grew up an Eagles fan," Marynowitz said. "I went to my first Eagles game in 1993. We've got a lot of family and friends in the area. No question, I grew up in it."

Marynowitz, 29, is growing into his job with the Eagles. Director of player personnel Tommy Gamble, the son of former Eagles president Harry Gamble, has seen a lot of people come and go in his 25 years in the NFL.

But Gamble hasn't seen many talents like Marynowitz.

"I think Ed Marynowitz is going to be a star in this business," Gamble said. "I've been around him before. We hired him in San Fran briefly. He's phenomenal. He's excellent, just a talented guy. He's going to have a long career in this business. He's a sharp guy."

What makes Marynowitz sharp is his approach to his job, which includes bringing to the Eagles the skills he culled from helping Alabama recruit first-round, NFL-caliber players.

Marynowitz is part of the collaborative effort to identify and evaluate players in order to give the Eagles a championship roster.

Marynowitz played quarterback for two years at La Salle University, completing 187 of 349 (51.5 percent) attempts for 2,557 yards with 13 touchdowns and 20 interceptions. He left to walk on at quarterback at Central Florida.

When his playing career stalled, Marynowitz drifted into another area.

"I've always been really intrigued by just the player procurement process," Marynowitz said. "As a player a lot of times you might want to coach and go in that direction. I never really had that passion to do that. I always kind of wanted to be on this side of it."

Marynowitz was on the Eagles' payroll for the last year of the Andy Reid era. He'd spent four years at Alabama as the director of player personnel as he guided football recruiting efforts. Do we need to mention how the Crimson Tide is a perennial national champion?

"I feel like I had probably one of the best jobs in college football in terms of personnel," Marynowitz said. "Just for me, a long-term goal was always to be in the NFL. Different than coaching, there's kind of a cap and ceiling from personnel and scouting standpoint in college that obviously you don't have in the professional level just because of the ways the rules are structured, what you can and can't do. So I kind of felt I hit a ceiling there."

Eagles general manager Howie Roseman had no problem fitting Marynowitz's skill set into the new scouting staff. Marynowitz was born in 1984. In these days of interviewing prospects and coaching-up players on Skype, he's exactly what the Eagles need to increase their scouting range.

Marynowitz's college experience has been a huge resource as he helped in evaluations of prospects from a character and skills standpoint. He is more than familiar with ACC and SEC-caliber players he helped recruit.

"Name recognition, knowing backgrounds, knowing family information, having a snapshot, an idea of what that player was in high school," Marynowitz said. "You're not starting from a blank slate. So I feel I've got a little bit of an edge up in terms of just general background information. You go to the scouting combine and you see some of these guys and they remember you. Some of that stuff in terms of relationship building is helpful as far as moving forward."

It's early, but chunks of that information could be invaluable for the Eagles as they move forward in the Chip Kelly era. It helped in the most recent draft as the Eagles selected defensive tackle Benny Logan (LSU) from the SEC in the third round and safety Earl Wolff (N.C. State) from the ACC in the fifth round.
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

rjs246

Quote from: phattymatty on January 03, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
Reading the last 3 days of this thread and the repetitive arguments of people with literally zero knowledge of whats actually going on is a pretty interesting social experiment.



Was just logging in to say the exact same thing. Drama queens and armchair psychiatrists.

Settle down, monkeys.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SD

29 years old? If that's the guy then he's a 'yes' man.

I have no problem with Howie, I think he's fine at what he does. He needs to grow a sack if he ever wants to be a GM. The first mistake he made was promising Chip the world to get him here. If he had a stronger personality he'd be running shtein and nobody would question him.

MDS

Quote from: SD on January 03, 2015, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2015, 11:14:33 AM
I think he changed his mind about specifically working with Roseman, not necessarily anything else.   He came to the Eagles as a coach and he remains that, but if he's going to be on the hook for what happens on the field, he better be comfortable with the guys who are responsible for hiring the players he's going to be coaching.

you dont like roseman because hes a short nerdy jew...not because of anything specific he's down as a GM

there's no such thing as a roseman fan, but the vitriol toward him is completely unfounded.

What has he done as a GM to like him?

what as he done as a GM to hate him?

he did what andy told him to....had a really good draft in 12 and a pretty solid one in 13 that chip most likely controlled....since then he's been losing battles to chip. im not saying the guy is the 2nd coming of ron wolf, but to despise him is completely unwarranted.

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

Quote from: SD on January 03, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
29 years old? If that's the guy then he's a 'yes' man.

ooops...I should have mentioned that article is from 2013....hes 31 now I guess
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Regardless of who they hire it's going to be a yes man. It'll be someone who is deep into scouting like Marynowitz who'll go with what Chip says just to have that GM title and paycheck.

This will be the most interesting offseason ever.

And don't put it past Howie to bolt if a team offers him any type of upper tier personnel spot

General_Failure

Sure, teams are just waiting to bust out the checkbook for the guy that got fired up the ladder and is credited with one draft for a team that can't draft defensive players.

The man. The myth. The legend.

JackStraw

Maybe the biggest story here is the change in Lurie. No matter what happens with Kelly, this frees him from the childhood loyalty clouding his ability to set the right structure. Roseman helped a whole lot as AR's world crumbled, and Jeff owed him for that.

Yet in family businesses the hardest part is realizing what got you here isn't going to get you there. Roseman is competent and made it harder to do this. Crazy to think it was some 48 hour epiphany for Jeff, but Howie overplaying his hand and Kelly's stature gave him the opening and to his credit he took it.

Roseman would do well to be genuinely supportive. Jeff needs Roseman's loyalty now more than ever and he's actually in a pretty good spot. Win it all and everybody points to Jeff's Solomon-like leadership of yesterday. Kelly fails and Roseman quietly looks pretty good in the wash.

I don't think we'll ever see Roseman as GM again but as consigliere or quasi "owners son" he will persist if he plays the next year correctly. He just has to remember that like Tom in the Godfather, though you may be treated as close family, you will never be family...
Endless regression to the mean

ice grillin you

so many football people many of them scouts or ex scouts are pulling out the knee pads for marynowitz saying its a no brainer hire...

people LOVE this cat
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Sounds like Marynowitz is going to be the guy

@EliotShorrParks: Ed Maynowitz was described as "special" by Adam Caplan on 97.5. "Matter of if, not when, he becomes a GM." Strong co-sign. #Eagles

@JohnMiddlekauff: If I owned an NFL team Ed Marynowitz would be my 1st hire. Can't imagine this will be a tough decision for Chip

MDS

the hell did this guy do to go from a nobody to the greatest thing ever overnight
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.