Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Diomedes]

This is pretty hilarious

http://jezebel.com/5944029/fake-former-obama-supporter-pranks-gretchen-carlson-proves-that-fox-has-no-fact+checkers?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[shorebird]

I already commented on Romneys words, and I'll talk about whatever the farg I want to talk about. And no, I went back a few pages, didn't see it, if you want to have me read it that bad then get it your farging self.

[MDS]

lol you are amazing

he was referring to roads and bridges when he say "that." should have said "those." big deal.

if you want to get mad at something barry said go with the clinging to guns and religion thing which is a. insulting to middle americans and b. true.

just admit you dont want a black guy in the office. youre 65 years old no one will fault you. i cant wait until im 65 im gonna at least embrace the free pass old people get.

[Rome]

Fact check: What President Obama actually said about small businesses

July 17, 2012

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Mitt Romney is deliberately taking President Obama's words out of context in order to distort the President's record of support for small businesses. Speaking in Roanoke, Virginia, the President offered a robust defense of public investment in infrastructure.

Romney decided to selectively edit President Obama to make it appear like the President was insulting small businesses: "[President Obama] said this, 'If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.' That somebody else is government, in his view ... To say something like that is not just foolishness, it's insulting to every entrepreneur, every innovator in America, and it's wrong."

But it's Romney's statement that's wrong—it's a complete distortion. Here's what the President actually said:

    "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

The President's full remarks show that the "that" in "you didn't build that" clearly refers to roads and bridges—public infrastructure we count on the government to build and maintain.

Romney can try to manipulate those words into a political attack, but the facts belie the smear: President Obama has continuously fought to help small businesses grow by cutting their taxes and making it easier for them to invest in American jobs. Here's how:

    18 tax cuts for small businesses: The President signed 18 tax cuts to support small businesses, providing $200 billion in tax relief and incentives for America's businesses over the last three years.

    Record volume of small business loans last year: President Obama has also supported nearly $80 billion in loans to more than 150,000 small businesses since 2009, including a record volume last year.

    Tax credits to support hiring: On top of the 18 tax cuts, President Obama wants to provide a 10% income tax credit for nearly 2 million businesses who hire new employees or raise wages. He also wants to extend 100 percent expensing for all businesses in 2012.

President Obama knows that small businesses are the "cornerstones of America's promise, the idea that if you've got a dream and the work ethic to see it through, you can succeed." And as he noted in Virginia, "when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative but also because we do things together." That is why the President is committed to building an economy that invests in education, infrastructure, and innovation alongside strong business growth.

In contrast, Mitt Romney has a record of bankrupting businesses and laying off workers to make a profit as a corporate buyout specialist. His attempt to take the President's words out of context and turn it into a political attack cannot distract from his record of fighting against the middle class.

From Obama's website dated July 17th...

And Shore... no problem.  Say whatever you want.  I just wanted you to comment on Romney's vicious and cowardly attack on the poor and you did.   

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Just checking in to confirm that you're all sheep of the two-party system.

Go red! Go blue!

[Munson]

I think only a few people here are cheering for blue because they actually think they're good. The rest of us are cheering for them because red is so farging awful anymore.

A few of us would probably cheer for green if they weren't such Hoydas.


Also lol at Shore pretending Obama was saying that people didn't build their businesses.

[Hawk]

Shore, that clip is the new deflection for Obama's failed presidency.   You don't have to answer their questions because no one answered my question about defending Obama after he ignored intel on a possible embassy attack. 

Ambassador Rice reminds me of the Iraqi Minister of Information.  She keeps repeating that the video caused the embassy attack, when every other source says otherwise. 

CF posters literally get their talking points from Ed Schultz. He started his show off with this Romney video.  No mention of the embassy attacks on MSNBC from what I watched. 

[Hawk]

Here's the full Obama quote (according to factcheck.org):

Obama, July 13: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn't — look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together.

The quote is still bad in context.  Get over it.   It's a light version of what Elizabeth Warren was spouting about a few weeks before he gave that speech. 

[Hawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYw_Gwajb4

Your memories are so short. 

[Geowhizzer]

Here's the full Obama quote (according to factcheck.org):

Obama, July 13: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn't — look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together.

The quote is still bad in context.  Get over it.   It's a light version of what Elizabeth Warren was spouting about a few weeks before he gave that speech.

Glad you could read so much into my posting a quote.   You know zero about my political beliefs, yet felt the need to tell me to "get over it."  Perhaps you need to take your own advice.

[Hawk]

Here's the full Obama quote (according to factcheck.org):

Obama, July 13: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn't — look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that's the reason I'm running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together.

The quote is still bad in context.  Get over it.   It's a light version of what Elizabeth Warren was spouting about a few weeks before he gave that speech.

Glad you could read so much into my posting a quote.   You know zero about my political beliefs, yet felt the need to tell me to "get over it."  Perhaps you need to take your own advice.

That wasn't directed at you, but the page and a half of people flipping out over shore taking the quote out of context.  The full quote in context is still a stupid statement. 

[Hawk]

Are these idiots seriously saying voter fraud is a problem?

go away already. Even the people who BELIEVE IT EXISTS cannot find any actual truth to it

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/us/politics/groups-like-true-the-vote-are-looking-very-closely-for-voter-fraud.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&smid=tw-share

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/wendy-rosen-withdraws_n_1871979.html

Clearly not a problem with Democrats.  I mean, it's normal to vote in two states. 

Only idiots are the ones claiming it's difficult to obtain an ID.

[MDS]

thats it, youve joined the munson level

BYE

[Hawk]

thats it, youve joined the munson level

BYE

MDS, you get your opinion from IGY, who gets his opinion from Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, and Ed Schultz.   

[Eagles_Legendz]

I would honestly and without hesitation vote for Stewart for President over Romney.